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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:11,916 --> 00:00:16,288 ♪ ("MUSIC BOX" THEME MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 4 00:00:26,396 --> 00:00:28,196 Jason Isbell is one of those song writers 5 00:00:28,196 --> 00:00:31,470 that makes you feel like you know him and he knows you. 6 00:00:32,136 --> 00:00:34,036 This film is a document 7 00:00:34,036 --> 00:00:36,271 of some of the most personal songs 8 00:00:36,271 --> 00:00:38,107 that Jason Isbell has already written. 9 00:00:38,107 --> 00:00:40,876 And I wanted to discover where the life 10 00:00:40,876 --> 00:00:42,481 and the art connect. 11 00:00:47,151 --> 00:00:49,721 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 12 00:00:53,891 --> 00:00:58,497 ♪ (GUITAR PLAYING) ♪ 13 00:01:11,208 --> 00:01:13,073 For Sam's camera to work, 14 00:01:14,078 --> 00:01:16,115 we got to go back to about right here. 15 00:01:17,081 --> 00:01:18,246 I don't like that as much, 16 00:01:18,246 --> 00:01:20,552 so I'm gonna move Sam's camera back a little bit. 17 00:01:29,827 --> 00:01:30,992 That good? 18 00:01:30,992 --> 00:01:32,894 I think so. 19 00:01:32,894 --> 00:01:34,529 We are recording. 20 00:01:34,529 --> 00:01:40,169 - ♪ (GUITAR PLAYING) ♪ - ♪ (VIOLIN PLAYING) ♪ 21 00:01:40,169 --> 00:01:42,037 I forgot to ask you what key it was in. 22 00:01:42,037 --> 00:01:43,438 - It's in E. - Aha. 23 00:01:43,438 --> 00:01:45,240 Let's start the-- - I started doing it in A. 24 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,576 Start the recordings over. 25 00:01:46,576 --> 00:01:47,609 Okay. 26 00:01:47,609 --> 00:01:51,716 - ♪ (GUITAR PLAYING) ♪ - ♪ (VIOLIN PLAYING) ♪ 27 00:01:52,983 --> 00:01:54,249 Where's-- 28 00:01:54,249 --> 00:01:55,985 We did it one more time the last time through. 29 00:01:55,985 --> 00:01:57,889 Ah, shit. Let's start the recording over. 30 00:01:59,389 --> 00:02:00,588 - You ready? Wait. No. 31 00:02:00,588 --> 00:02:02,958 Now it's saving or something. Okay, now. 32 00:02:02,958 --> 00:02:05,764 One, ta, ta, two, ta, ta. 33 00:02:07,866 --> 00:02:09,064 Do it again? 34 00:02:09,064 --> 00:02:10,465 - The beginning. - I liked that intro. 35 00:02:10,465 --> 00:02:12,434 - Oh, you didn't like it? - Oh, I'm sorry. 36 00:02:12,434 --> 00:02:13,769 - Okay. - I thought missed it. 37 00:02:13,769 --> 00:02:15,307 I didn't. Okay. 38 00:02:17,008 --> 00:02:19,809 One, two, three, two. Three... 39 00:02:34,859 --> 00:02:41,433 ♪ (GENTLE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 40 00:02:46,036 --> 00:02:48,037 Good morning. Hey, how are you? 41 00:02:50,472 --> 00:02:52,340 Morning, Sadler. What's up, man? 42 00:02:52,340 --> 00:02:53,508 How are you? - Good. 43 00:02:53,508 --> 00:02:55,344 - Good to see you, bud. Good to see you. 44 00:02:55,344 --> 00:02:57,649 - What's up, Darrell? Hey, I know you. 45 00:03:00,484 --> 00:03:02,450 There's really no more intrinsic value 46 00:03:02,450 --> 00:03:05,220 to making a record than there is to writing in your journal 47 00:03:05,220 --> 00:03:07,155 when you're 15 years old, you know? 48 00:03:07,155 --> 00:03:09,291 It's really for the same purpose. 49 00:03:09,291 --> 00:03:11,359 There's something that we have to say, 50 00:03:11,359 --> 00:03:13,262 and in the process of figuring out 51 00:03:13,262 --> 00:03:15,798 how to say that, we learn who we are. 52 00:03:16,965 --> 00:03:18,834 But I need to move forward 53 00:03:18,834 --> 00:03:20,602 as a person through this work. 54 00:03:20,602 --> 00:03:24,106 For me to do that, I have to come to terms with things 55 00:03:24,106 --> 00:03:25,969 that don't make me look cool 56 00:03:25,969 --> 00:03:27,342 or don't paint me in the best light 57 00:03:27,342 --> 00:03:30,312 or don't, you know, promote an idea 58 00:03:30,312 --> 00:03:32,282 I have of controlling my own image 59 00:03:32,282 --> 00:03:33,715 because cont-- 60 00:03:33,715 --> 00:03:37,522 I think, controlling your image is the opposite of creating art. 61 00:03:38,855 --> 00:03:41,390 My songs are things that are under the surface 62 00:03:41,390 --> 00:03:44,359 of my own mind, things that I'm dealing with 63 00:03:44,359 --> 00:03:45,660 and working through. 64 00:03:45,660 --> 00:03:49,398 But the trick for me is to make a rock and roll record 65 00:03:49,398 --> 00:03:51,066 about all these things 66 00:03:51,066 --> 00:03:52,434 'cause you don't really want 67 00:03:52,434 --> 00:03:55,065 people to feel like they're singing along 68 00:03:55,065 --> 00:03:57,939 with some sort of a self-help catalogue. 69 00:03:57,939 --> 00:04:02,678 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 70 00:04:02,678 --> 00:04:04,649 - That sounds good. - Really cool. 71 00:04:05,849 --> 00:04:08,820 She sent me a message today. Let's see. 72 00:04:09,787 --> 00:04:10,652 I love you so much, 73 00:04:10,652 --> 00:04:13,625 and how much music are you gonna make? 74 00:04:15,459 --> 00:04:16,791 Hello, Mercy. 75 00:04:16,791 --> 00:04:22,264 We are going to make an album, which is nine or ten songs. 76 00:04:22,264 --> 00:04:28,703 And so, it's like about 45 minutes long. 77 00:04:28,703 --> 00:04:30,873 And then she said-- To all that, she said... 78 00:04:30,873 --> 00:04:32,511 That sounds great. 79 00:04:33,277 --> 00:04:37,879 She's so funny, man. 80 00:04:37,879 --> 00:04:42,887 ♪ ("RUNNING WITH OUR EYES CLOSED" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 81 00:04:53,031 --> 00:04:56,798 ♪ Took forever To get you to trust me ♪ 82 00:04:56,798 --> 00:05:00,768 ♪ Like I was feeding A bird from my hand ♪ 83 00:05:00,768 --> 00:05:04,572 ♪ And if this isn't love Then it must be ♪ 84 00:05:04,572 --> 00:05:07,379 ♪ Another answer I don't understand ♪ 85 00:05:08,712 --> 00:05:12,481 ♪ To a prayer that was please And not thank you ♪ 86 00:05:12,481 --> 00:05:16,351 ♪ To a question I wrote in the sand ♪ 87 00:05:16,351 --> 00:05:20,222 ♪ To a wish that I made On a satellite ♪ 88 00:05:20,222 --> 00:05:24,096 ♪ From a witness in tears On the stand ♪ 89 00:05:26,397 --> 00:05:29,601 ♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪ 90 00:05:33,771 --> 00:05:36,675 ♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪ 91 00:05:39,410 --> 00:05:42,777 ♪ Well, you are who you are When you're angry ♪ 92 00:05:42,777 --> 00:05:46,614 ♪ When you're scared Or you're sad or you're bored ♪ 93 00:05:46,614 --> 00:05:50,351 ♪ When a stranger Has slipped you a room key ♪ 94 00:05:50,351 --> 00:05:53,788 ♪ In a hotel You couldn't afford ♪ 95 00:05:53,788 --> 00:05:57,726 ♪ We can never go back And be strangers ♪ 96 00:05:57,726 --> 00:06:01,563 ♪ All our secrets Are mixed and distilled ♪ 97 00:06:01,563 --> 00:06:05,167 ♪ But you've taught me To temper my anger ♪ 98 00:06:05,167 --> 00:06:08,974 ♪ And you've learned It's all right to be still ♪ 99 00:06:11,342 --> 00:06:13,913 ♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪ 100 00:06:27,692 --> 00:06:29,459 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 101 00:06:29,459 --> 00:06:31,159 It's fucking unbelievable. 102 00:06:31,159 --> 00:06:32,528 - Unbelievable. - Thank you. 103 00:06:32,528 --> 00:06:33,628 Play me that change 104 00:06:33,628 --> 00:06:35,730 from just the last chord to the bridge. 105 00:06:35,730 --> 00:06:38,367 ♪ We're running With our eyes closed ♪ 106 00:06:38,367 --> 00:06:39,604 One, two. 107 00:06:40,539 --> 00:06:42,870 Two, da-da. 108 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:45,941 Prior to Jason, any recording I've done, 109 00:06:45,941 --> 00:06:49,172 there would always be weeks of rehearsal. 110 00:06:49,172 --> 00:06:51,313 This was kind of a new territory for me 111 00:06:51,313 --> 00:06:53,752 where he brings in the song the day of. 112 00:06:55,286 --> 00:06:58,620 You don't know the song, you write your number chart out. 113 00:06:58,620 --> 00:07:00,122 Then you're sort of off to the races 114 00:07:00,122 --> 00:07:02,827 and coming up with parts and trying to lay it down. 115 00:07:06,798 --> 00:07:09,231 ♪ Oh, running With our eyes closed ♪ 116 00:07:09,231 --> 00:07:10,565 It's ridiculously hard 117 00:07:10,565 --> 00:07:12,428 and the stupidest part of recording. 118 00:07:12,428 --> 00:07:14,970 Can't practice it 'cause Dave doesn't make a demo. 119 00:07:14,970 --> 00:07:16,037 But then if I mess up, 120 00:07:16,037 --> 00:07:18,643 somebody's gonna want to try to keep that probably. 121 00:07:19,443 --> 00:07:21,680 I don't-- It's just really scary. 122 00:07:23,414 --> 00:07:25,280 This might be a weird suggestion. 123 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,849 I like your weird suggestions. 124 00:07:26,849 --> 00:07:28,984 What if you play it acoustic going down, 125 00:07:28,984 --> 00:07:30,953 then we take time with the electric sound? 126 00:07:30,953 --> 00:07:33,355 - That's good with me. - 'Cause it's such a cool part, 127 00:07:33,355 --> 00:07:34,923 I don't want to dig-- Just run past it. 128 00:07:34,923 --> 00:07:36,759 - You know what I mean? - Yeah. The riff is a hook. 129 00:07:36,759 --> 00:07:38,230 - It's a hook and a half. Yeah. 130 00:07:39,764 --> 00:07:41,597 Amanda has heard the songs, 131 00:07:41,597 --> 00:07:42,730 but that's different, you know? 132 00:07:42,730 --> 00:07:44,899 That's a different kind of collaboration. 133 00:07:44,899 --> 00:07:48,771 Like, I still don't really think of it as she's in the band. 134 00:07:48,771 --> 00:07:50,538 And I need her to do different things, 135 00:07:50,538 --> 00:07:52,542 and I think she needs to have a different role. 136 00:07:52,542 --> 00:07:53,979 Did you write "to"? 137 00:07:55,540 --> 00:07:58,447 A stranger slips you a room key "to" a hotel room 138 00:07:58,447 --> 00:07:59,814 you can't afford. 139 00:07:59,814 --> 00:08:01,549 - But I think that you are-- - But there's no slipping one 140 00:08:01,549 --> 00:08:03,218 - with inside the room key... - Yeah, there is. 141 00:08:03,218 --> 00:08:04,754 If you're at the hotel bar 142 00:08:04,754 --> 00:08:06,555 and the stranger is trying to pick you up, 143 00:08:06,555 --> 00:08:09,161 they would slip you a key in the hotel. 144 00:08:09,961 --> 00:08:11,030 No, but you're... 145 00:08:12,596 --> 00:08:14,095 I've already went, like, through this in my brain 146 00:08:14,095 --> 00:08:15,697 - about a dozen times. - Well, this will just be 147 00:08:15,697 --> 00:08:17,967 permanently disagreed with because it sounds like 148 00:08:17,967 --> 00:08:20,002 when you're on, like, you're reading 149 00:08:20,002 --> 00:08:21,904 that you're in the room, slipping the key. 150 00:08:21,904 --> 00:08:23,371 - This has already happened. - How about-- 151 00:08:23,371 --> 00:08:25,144 - How about "for"? - Past. 152 00:08:26,978 --> 00:08:29,111 - For is fine. - Or we just leave 153 00:08:29,111 --> 00:08:30,711 the article off and say... 154 00:08:30,711 --> 00:08:34,349 ♪ When a stranger Has slipped you a room key ♪ 155 00:08:34,349 --> 00:08:36,951 ♪ A hotel room You couldn't afford ♪ 156 00:08:36,951 --> 00:08:39,788 Or-- See, I've already said "room" though. That was my problem. 157 00:08:39,788 --> 00:08:41,757 I didn't want to use "room" again that quickly. 158 00:08:41,757 --> 00:08:42,924 Do whatever you want. 159 00:08:42,924 --> 00:08:44,359 No, no. - That's not gonna be a big deal. 160 00:08:44,359 --> 00:08:45,493 I'm not making-- 161 00:08:45,493 --> 00:08:46,628 I'm really, like, just discussing it. 162 00:08:46,628 --> 00:08:48,163 Why don't you just make up a word? 163 00:08:48,163 --> 00:08:49,731 You're talking about it 164 00:08:49,731 --> 00:08:52,837 in the past, so it's like "in" is not helpful. 165 00:08:55,139 --> 00:08:57,809 I feel like "in" and "to" are in the same tense. 166 00:08:59,504 --> 00:09:02,677 When a stranger has slipped you a room key. 167 00:09:02,677 --> 00:09:04,512 - Yeah, so you're in the-- - And moving tenses within-- 168 00:09:04,512 --> 00:09:06,681 You're in the present participle. 169 00:09:06,681 --> 00:09:08,517 Who is? 'Cause the person-- 170 00:09:08,517 --> 00:09:09,685 The people who are existing here 171 00:09:09,685 --> 00:09:11,052 are in the present participle tense, 172 00:09:11,052 --> 00:09:12,687 which means that they're existing in the now... 173 00:09:12,687 --> 00:09:14,289 - No, but the-- - ...but discussing something 174 00:09:14,289 --> 00:09:15,451 that's happened in the past. 175 00:09:15,451 --> 00:09:17,660 No, b-- Okay. But see, then you're mixing up 176 00:09:17,660 --> 00:09:19,128 all this in this middle. 177 00:09:19,128 --> 00:09:22,431 Just sing whatever you want and then think about it later. 178 00:09:22,431 --> 00:09:24,133 No, I want to get it right. That's-- 179 00:09:24,133 --> 00:09:25,204 Then put "to." 180 00:09:28,706 --> 00:09:30,538 I feel like if I put "to," 181 00:09:30,538 --> 00:09:32,342 it's gonna read like you're getting key 182 00:09:32,342 --> 00:09:33,913 to the entire hotel. 183 00:09:34,846 --> 00:09:37,413 - Don't you think? - To... 184 00:09:37,413 --> 00:09:38,713 I see what you mean. 185 00:09:38,713 --> 00:09:40,483 You know, Amanda has a master's degree 186 00:09:40,483 --> 00:09:41,716 in creative writing. 187 00:09:41,716 --> 00:09:44,619 She gets in there with her pen and gives him honest feedback. 188 00:09:44,619 --> 00:09:46,354 She's the only one that hears anything 189 00:09:46,354 --> 00:09:48,190 before they go into the studio. 190 00:09:48,190 --> 00:09:49,690 I mean you could also say... 191 00:09:49,690 --> 00:09:53,462 ♪ And a stranger Has slipped you a room key ♪ 192 00:09:53,462 --> 00:09:54,696 ♪ For a room... ♪ 193 00:09:54,696 --> 00:09:56,932 ♪ To a room You could never afford ♪ 194 00:09:56,932 --> 00:09:58,300 - See? I like that. - That's better. 195 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:00,739 To a room, yeah. To a room. 196 00:10:02,237 --> 00:10:06,108 Once the songs get past her, nobody scares me. 197 00:10:06,108 --> 00:10:09,578 Nobody. I don't give a shit. I know it's right. 198 00:10:09,578 --> 00:10:11,213 Part of the reason why he trusts me 199 00:10:11,213 --> 00:10:13,114 is because I can't suffer a bad song, 200 00:10:13,114 --> 00:10:16,351 or, like, a clichéd lyric unless it's turned a little bit. 201 00:10:16,351 --> 00:10:19,755 It works. It's hard. It's a hard thing to do. 202 00:10:19,755 --> 00:10:21,923 You have to let go of your ego. 203 00:10:21,923 --> 00:10:24,059 If I was making people dance, I wouldn't sit there 204 00:10:24,059 --> 00:10:29,564 and waste my time on prepositions. 205 00:10:29,564 --> 00:10:31,427 But they are not out there dancing. 206 00:10:31,427 --> 00:10:32,901 I got to get those prepositions right. 207 00:10:32,901 --> 00:10:34,436 Yeah, beautiful. 208 00:10:34,436 --> 00:10:35,638 - Good? Love it. 209 00:10:35,638 --> 00:10:36,972 - Okay. Cool. 210 00:10:36,972 --> 00:10:39,742 It's got to be terrible to sit in that chair. 211 00:10:39,742 --> 00:10:41,377 - What? Over there? - I mean, I know it is. 212 00:10:41,377 --> 00:10:42,472 No, your chair. 213 00:10:42,472 --> 00:10:43,646 - Over here? - To be putting a record out, 214 00:10:43,646 --> 00:10:44,947 - like, singing your songs... - Man. 215 00:10:44,947 --> 00:10:46,649 ...for the first time in front of a group of people. 216 00:10:46,649 --> 00:10:48,183 - It is-- - Terrible. 217 00:10:48,183 --> 00:10:49,350 - No. - It is. 218 00:10:49,350 --> 00:10:52,554 It's the most beautiful thing I've ever done in my life 219 00:10:52,554 --> 00:10:54,960 outside of you and our daughter. 220 00:11:04,396 --> 00:11:05,834 Our method of recording 221 00:11:05,834 --> 00:11:09,304 relies on so much of your gut. Wherever it takes you, 222 00:11:09,304 --> 00:11:10,742 that's where it goes. 223 00:11:12,176 --> 00:11:15,544 ♪ Took forever to get you To trust me... ♪ 224 00:11:15,544 --> 00:11:16,878 It's a healthy way to do it 225 00:11:16,878 --> 00:11:18,646 because if you don't get it in the first few times, 226 00:11:18,646 --> 00:11:20,448 you kind of lose the spirit of it anyway. 227 00:11:20,448 --> 00:11:23,185 It's a very complex chemistry 228 00:11:23,185 --> 00:11:25,754 that just comes from playing together 229 00:11:25,754 --> 00:11:27,259 for such a long time. 230 00:11:30,895 --> 00:11:33,798 ♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪ 231 00:11:38,936 --> 00:11:41,837 ♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪ 232 00:11:41,837 --> 00:11:44,340 There's definitely a spontaneity element 233 00:11:44,340 --> 00:11:45,440 to being in a studio 234 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,669 that I think is really important. 235 00:11:46,669 --> 00:11:49,177 Something that I have always liked is hearing 236 00:11:49,177 --> 00:11:51,446 a really good musician play a song 237 00:11:51,446 --> 00:11:52,817 before they actually know it. 238 00:11:54,451 --> 00:11:55,317 And once you learn the song, 239 00:11:55,317 --> 00:11:58,086 your mind is not focused on creating. 240 00:11:58,086 --> 00:12:01,022 Your mind is focused on recreating. 241 00:12:01,022 --> 00:12:03,024 You know, you can only create something once, 242 00:12:03,024 --> 00:12:05,026 and if the tape's not rolling, 243 00:12:05,026 --> 00:12:07,096 then you're just shit out of luck. 244 00:12:07,096 --> 00:12:08,998 I like the one before it better. - One before it? 245 00:12:08,998 --> 00:12:10,198 - Can we do one more? Yeah. 246 00:12:10,198 --> 00:12:11,700 Just don't think. Don't even tune. 247 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:13,068 Okay. Don't think. Don't tune. 248 00:12:13,068 --> 00:12:15,070 You're only as good as the last work you did, 249 00:12:15,070 --> 00:12:18,073 so there's this doubting of self. 250 00:12:18,073 --> 00:12:19,875 You're just like, "This is probably a bunch of shit. 251 00:12:19,875 --> 00:12:21,010 I don't know." So, you're fighting 252 00:12:21,010 --> 00:12:24,013 with all these voices inside your head. 253 00:12:24,013 --> 00:12:25,981 I don't know what you're doing, but that's what I do. 254 00:12:25,981 --> 00:12:29,751 ♪ (VIOLIN PLAYING, CONCLUDES) ♪ 255 00:12:29,751 --> 00:12:32,121 ♪ ("RUNNING WITH OUR EYES CLOSED" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 256 00:12:32,121 --> 00:12:35,260 ♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪ 257 00:12:40,164 --> 00:12:43,202 ♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪ 258 00:12:45,202 --> 00:12:47,936 The writing of the songs, that's the hardest part. 259 00:12:47,936 --> 00:12:50,840 My work is done when I walk into the studio. 260 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,811 So I don't feel that kind of pressure. 261 00:12:53,612 --> 00:12:56,345 Oh, he's just lying to y'all. 262 00:12:56,345 --> 00:12:59,848 He is. He is. I'm gonna drag him up here 263 00:12:59,848 --> 00:13:02,487 and tell him to answer the question honestly. 264 00:13:03,754 --> 00:13:07,455 It's got to be a big lie, right? It's got to drive him crazy. 265 00:13:07,455 --> 00:13:10,320 You just continue to build pressure for yourself 266 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,461 to outdo your last record. 267 00:13:12,461 --> 00:13:15,163 From this point forward till when the record comes out, 268 00:13:15,163 --> 00:13:16,932 he's gonna be a ball of anxiousness. 269 00:13:16,932 --> 00:13:18,600 That should be where it ends right there. 270 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,702 - Yeah. That's the end. Yeah. 271 00:13:19,702 --> 00:13:20,668 And I'm still-- 272 00:13:20,668 --> 00:13:23,205 This guitar still sounds woofy as hell to me. 273 00:13:23,205 --> 00:13:25,407 I'm excited. I'm excited to be here, 274 00:13:25,407 --> 00:13:27,375 you know? It's like, uh-- 275 00:13:27,375 --> 00:13:32,084 It's like the first day of little league. 276 00:13:34,852 --> 00:13:38,958 ♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 277 00:14:00,144 --> 00:14:01,376 Jason and I have known each other 278 00:14:01,376 --> 00:14:04,112 for 18 years. We were friends at first. 279 00:14:04,112 --> 00:14:07,987 But, like, you kind of know, you know? 280 00:14:09,453 --> 00:14:11,687 I met Amanda when I was recording 281 00:14:11,687 --> 00:14:13,722 with the Drive-By Truckers. 282 00:14:13,722 --> 00:14:16,424 I went into town to go get drunk, 283 00:14:16,424 --> 00:14:19,561 and Amanda was playing with Thrift Store Cowboys. 284 00:14:19,561 --> 00:14:22,698 There was, you know, hardly anybody at the show. 285 00:14:22,698 --> 00:14:24,199 He got a folding chair and went and sat 286 00:14:24,199 --> 00:14:26,462 in the middle of the floor. There was, like, I don't know, 287 00:14:26,462 --> 00:14:28,069 probably like 12 people there. 288 00:14:28,069 --> 00:14:30,272 I thought that was pretty ballsy. 289 00:14:30,272 --> 00:14:33,008 I said, "Aren't you supposed to be famous?" 290 00:14:33,008 --> 00:14:36,248 As a joke, she got me to sign a polaroid 291 00:14:36,914 --> 00:14:38,247 of the two of us, and it's-- 292 00:14:38,247 --> 00:14:40,619 We have it in the bathroom in the house now. 293 00:14:42,020 --> 00:14:44,085 We were just friends for years. 294 00:14:44,085 --> 00:14:46,622 But I probably always been in love with her. 295 00:14:46,622 --> 00:14:48,691 Um. I definitely had. 296 00:14:48,691 --> 00:14:50,559 How many minutes do we have left? 297 00:14:50,559 --> 00:14:53,428 We have 16. 298 00:14:53,428 --> 00:14:55,497 During that time, I never thought really 299 00:14:55,497 --> 00:14:57,699 that I'd be enough for him just because, 300 00:14:57,699 --> 00:15:01,406 well, he liked to hang out with women, and he liked to, 301 00:15:02,173 --> 00:15:04,640 you know, do S-E-X. 302 00:15:06,241 --> 00:15:07,509 Funny aside, I don't know 303 00:15:07,509 --> 00:15:09,344 if this is important for the documentary or not, 304 00:15:09,344 --> 00:15:11,680 but I did make him take an STD test 305 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,382 before I hooked up with him. 306 00:15:13,382 --> 00:15:15,217 And then for, like, the first year, 307 00:15:15,217 --> 00:15:17,787 he had it hanging on the refrigerator, but... 308 00:15:20,422 --> 00:15:21,818 We're ready when you're all ready. 309 00:15:21,818 --> 00:15:23,992 Ready? Come on. Apparently, we're ready to rock. 310 00:15:23,992 --> 00:15:25,427 Have yourself a good time out there. 311 00:15:25,427 --> 00:15:28,000 Thanks for joining me. It's gonna be fun. 312 00:15:39,043 --> 00:15:45,350 ♪ ("TRAVELING ALONE" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 313 00:15:58,262 --> 00:16:01,400 ♪ Mountain's rough This time of year ♪ 314 00:16:03,968 --> 00:16:06,638 ♪ Close the highway down ♪ 315 00:16:08,006 --> 00:16:10,242 ♪ They don't warn the town ♪ 316 00:16:13,912 --> 00:16:17,149 ♪ I've been fighting Second gear ♪ 317 00:16:19,718 --> 00:16:22,087 ♪ For 15 miles or so ♪ 318 00:16:23,420 --> 00:16:26,525 ♪ Trying to beat The angry snow ♪ 319 00:16:29,359 --> 00:16:34,596 ♪ I know every town Worth passing through ♪ 320 00:16:34,596 --> 00:16:41,673 ♪ But what good does knowing do With no one to show it to ♪ 321 00:16:43,107 --> 00:16:47,943 ♪ And I've grown Tired of traveling alone ♪ 322 00:16:47,943 --> 00:16:51,080 ♪ Tired of traveling alone ♪ 323 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,317 ♪ I've grown tired Of traveling alone ♪ 324 00:16:55,317 --> 00:16:58,157 ♪ Won't you ride with me ♪ 325 00:16:59,423 --> 00:17:03,528 ♪ I've grown tired Of traveling alone ♪ 326 00:17:04,228 --> 00:17:07,262 ♪ Tired of traveling alone ♪ 327 00:17:07,262 --> 00:17:11,734 ♪ I've grown tired Of traveling alone ♪ 328 00:17:11,734 --> 00:17:14,273 ♪ Won't you ride with me ♪ 329 00:17:15,773 --> 00:17:17,676 ♪ Won't you ride ♪ 330 00:17:19,076 --> 00:17:21,276 I'm so grateful that this is the person 331 00:17:21,276 --> 00:17:23,913 that I have to share this with. 332 00:17:23,913 --> 00:17:27,850 I feel included, and I feel tethered 333 00:17:27,850 --> 00:17:29,788 to the world by her. 334 00:17:30,788 --> 00:17:35,227 She makes me feel like I'm not an outcast. 335 00:17:36,227 --> 00:17:37,459 There was always some part of me 336 00:17:37,459 --> 00:17:39,962 that felt like I don't belong here. 337 00:17:39,962 --> 00:17:44,469 And when she treats me like I belong... 338 00:17:46,037 --> 00:17:50,675 I feel like I belong everywhere, you know? 339 00:18:07,324 --> 00:18:12,060 ♪ I've grown tired Of traveling alone ♪ 340 00:18:12,060 --> 00:18:15,264 ♪ Tired of traveling alone ♪ 341 00:18:15,264 --> 00:18:19,434 ♪ I've grown tired Of traveling alone ♪ 342 00:18:19,434 --> 00:18:22,407 ♪ Won't you ride with me ♪ 343 00:18:23,669 --> 00:18:25,644 ♪ Won't you ride ♪ 344 00:18:27,645 --> 00:18:29,181 ♪ Won't you ride ♪ 345 00:18:40,291 --> 00:18:42,157 - Thank you. 346 00:18:42,157 --> 00:18:44,159 That's Amanda Shires on the fiddle. 347 00:18:44,159 --> 00:18:45,526 It's a violin. 348 00:18:45,526 --> 00:18:47,630 I think that means it's for sale. 349 00:18:49,164 --> 00:18:51,166 Right after we started hanging out with each other, 350 00:18:51,166 --> 00:18:52,500 I said, "Now, what is the difference 351 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:56,138 between a violin and a fiddle?" And she said, 352 00:18:56,138 --> 00:18:58,708 "Well, it's a fiddle when you're buying it." 353 00:19:01,043 --> 00:19:03,378 It's a violin when you're selling it. 354 00:19:03,378 --> 00:19:04,879 If she's calling it a violin, 355 00:19:04,879 --> 00:19:07,315 it's not because we're in a fancy orchestral room, 356 00:19:07,315 --> 00:19:09,752 it's because she's looking to upgrade. 357 00:19:12,254 --> 00:19:14,355 As long as you always call me a fiddle. 358 00:19:16,258 --> 00:19:20,129 I get moved either to laughter or to tears 359 00:19:20,129 --> 00:19:23,598 by very small things that most people 360 00:19:23,598 --> 00:19:25,500 would not notice, and if you point it out to them, 361 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:27,269 they would think you were strange. 362 00:19:27,269 --> 00:19:30,239 And she has looked at me in a lot of fucking ways, 363 00:19:30,239 --> 00:19:31,873 but never once has she looked at me 364 00:19:31,873 --> 00:19:33,212 like I'm strange. 365 00:19:34,646 --> 00:19:35,614 Never once. 366 00:19:37,848 --> 00:19:39,351 And everybody else has. 367 00:19:42,053 --> 00:19:43,522 At least once. 368 00:19:46,057 --> 00:19:47,892 Well, you're not strange anyway. 369 00:19:48,593 --> 00:19:49,561 Thank you. 370 00:19:50,727 --> 00:19:57,836 ♪ ("CHILDREN OF CHILDREN" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 371 00:20:02,974 --> 00:20:04,605 I grew up in Alabama. 372 00:20:04,605 --> 00:20:08,543 It was very rural and poor White, everybody. 373 00:20:08,543 --> 00:20:13,248 When we got pregnant with Jason, we were kids, you know? 374 00:20:13,248 --> 00:20:17,689 I was 18 or so, but Angelia was 16. 375 00:20:18,855 --> 00:20:21,156 When you're 16 years old, you think you love him, 376 00:20:21,156 --> 00:20:23,258 and I did. I mean, you know, 377 00:20:23,258 --> 00:20:25,293 as much as you could at that time. 378 00:20:25,293 --> 00:20:27,095 When I found out I was pregnant, 379 00:20:27,095 --> 00:20:28,463 I said, "Oh, I'm gonna marry him, 380 00:20:28,463 --> 00:20:30,402 and we're gonna live happily ever after." 381 00:20:31,435 --> 00:20:34,635 ♪ I was riding On my mother's hip ♪ 382 00:20:34,635 --> 00:20:39,378 ♪ She was shorter Than the corn ♪ 383 00:20:44,915 --> 00:20:48,216 ♪ And all the years I took from her ♪ 384 00:20:48,216 --> 00:20:54,426 ♪ Just by being born ♪ 385 00:20:58,595 --> 00:21:00,561 Because we were so young, 386 00:21:00,561 --> 00:21:02,531 he didn't realize he was a child. 387 00:21:02,531 --> 00:21:07,302 I had no barometer for reaction. 388 00:21:07,302 --> 00:21:11,841 I felt a response to all of my problems 389 00:21:11,841 --> 00:21:13,475 as though they were as big 390 00:21:13,475 --> 00:21:16,678 and as complicated as the adult problems 391 00:21:16,678 --> 00:21:19,747 'cause I didn't have any other eight-year-olds around. 392 00:21:19,747 --> 00:21:24,119 Also, there was a pretty big religious undertone 393 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,854 to everything down there. 394 00:21:25,854 --> 00:21:28,189 You know, my grandfather was a preacher, 395 00:21:28,189 --> 00:21:30,693 so as a young child, I was taught 396 00:21:30,693 --> 00:21:34,062 that what this book says is exactly true. 397 00:21:34,062 --> 00:21:36,732 The thoughts I was having at seven and eight were guilt, 398 00:21:36,732 --> 00:21:38,733 guilt, guilt, shame, shame, shame. 399 00:21:38,733 --> 00:21:42,007 "I'm gonna go to hell." So that kept me up at night. 400 00:21:42,935 --> 00:21:44,506 Plus, I was a chubby kid, 401 00:21:44,506 --> 00:21:46,845 and definitely not like everybody else. 402 00:21:48,046 --> 00:21:51,746 You know, I read books, and I didn't play football. 403 00:21:51,746 --> 00:21:55,450 Just that was enough to get pickles thrown at you 404 00:21:55,450 --> 00:21:57,422 in the lunchroom, you know? 405 00:21:58,388 --> 00:22:00,823 I was so stressed out and anxious, 406 00:22:00,823 --> 00:22:03,391 and the I way I took my mind out of all that 407 00:22:03,391 --> 00:22:05,427 or stopped the wheels from spinning 408 00:22:05,427 --> 00:22:06,661 was by playing the guitar, 409 00:22:06,661 --> 00:22:08,328 sitting in my room, playing the guitar. 410 00:22:17,742 --> 00:22:19,007 He had Strats. 411 00:22:19,007 --> 00:22:21,037 That’s what he liked back then when he was young. 412 00:22:21,037 --> 00:22:22,411 And, man, I'd hear him back there 413 00:22:22,411 --> 00:22:24,512 tearing that thing up. 414 00:22:24,512 --> 00:22:26,915 My parents did everything they could 415 00:22:26,915 --> 00:22:30,818 to make my childhood a positive experience, 416 00:22:30,818 --> 00:22:33,989 but they couldn't do everything that they needed to do. 417 00:22:33,989 --> 00:22:36,525 You know, Dad was always stressed about money. 418 00:22:36,525 --> 00:22:38,259 Mom was not great with money. 419 00:22:38,259 --> 00:22:41,466 And both had a pretty short fuse. 420 00:22:42,634 --> 00:22:43,798 They would start arguing, 421 00:22:43,798 --> 00:22:46,538 and it was a very quick escalation with them. 422 00:22:47,637 --> 00:22:50,906 Now, the house was small, and the walls were thin, 423 00:22:50,906 --> 00:22:53,578 and the amp was loud. 424 00:22:54,579 --> 00:22:56,178 And so I couldn't hear 'em. 425 00:22:56,178 --> 00:22:58,781 If I turned it up loud and played rock and roll guitar, 426 00:22:58,781 --> 00:23:00,583 I couldn't hear 'em yelling at each other. 427 00:23:00,583 --> 00:23:03,855 ♪ (ELECTRICAL GUITAR PLAYING) ♪ 428 00:23:07,825 --> 00:23:09,191 He played good, you know? 429 00:23:09,191 --> 00:23:12,560 And sometimes we were arguing, we'd stop and listen to him. 430 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:17,266 This is so hard for me. He was sitting at the table, 431 00:23:17,266 --> 00:23:21,470 and he said, "Mom, do you love Dad?" 432 00:23:21,470 --> 00:23:23,238 And I said, "Of course I love Daddy. 433 00:23:23,238 --> 00:23:24,873 Why? Why would you ask me that?" 434 00:23:24,873 --> 00:23:28,944 And he said, "Well, I love him 'cause he's my daddy, 435 00:23:28,944 --> 00:23:31,816 but I wouldn't love him if he was my husband." 436 00:23:33,184 --> 00:23:35,317 That's the burden that he had, 437 00:23:35,317 --> 00:23:38,087 and that's the clarity that he had. 438 00:23:38,087 --> 00:23:41,290 He had a big heart and was a good kid. 439 00:23:41,290 --> 00:23:43,525 It's a tough one when they have that. 440 00:23:43,525 --> 00:23:45,361 You know, it's easier to get broke. 441 00:24:06,617 --> 00:24:07,716 There was no culture 442 00:24:07,716 --> 00:24:09,618 of any kind of psychological help 443 00:24:09,618 --> 00:24:12,320 for children or adults, whatsoever. 444 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,456 You were either fine or you were crazy, 445 00:24:14,456 --> 00:24:16,659 and if you were crazy, you went to the 400 Unit. 446 00:24:16,659 --> 00:24:17,793 And if you were fine, 447 00:24:17,793 --> 00:24:19,861 you shut up, and you went to work. 448 00:24:19,861 --> 00:24:24,032 If not for playing the guitar, and singing, writing songs, 449 00:24:24,032 --> 00:24:26,502 then I would've been lost in that middle ground 450 00:24:26,502 --> 00:24:28,904 between fine and crazy. 451 00:24:28,904 --> 00:24:31,874 If that hadn't been there, I don't, you know, 452 00:24:31,874 --> 00:24:33,308 I really don't know if I would've been able 453 00:24:33,308 --> 00:24:36,815 to deal with the world at all. I might've just checked out. 454 00:24:45,723 --> 00:24:47,622 Hearing a song that really moves you 455 00:24:47,622 --> 00:24:49,191 is like if you accidentally stumble 456 00:24:49,191 --> 00:24:52,794 on somebody's diary and it was exactly like yours. 457 00:24:52,794 --> 00:24:55,964 You would say, "Oh, my God, there's one person 458 00:24:55,964 --> 00:24:59,867 who had the same feelings that I did," you know? 459 00:24:59,867 --> 00:25:02,304 And all of us are kind of walking around, thinking, 460 00:25:02,304 --> 00:25:03,872 "Man, am I weird? 461 00:25:03,872 --> 00:25:05,573 Am I the only one who feels this way?" 462 00:25:05,573 --> 00:25:07,676 And then when somebody reaches in and says, 463 00:25:07,676 --> 00:25:09,010 "No, no, I'm with you," 464 00:25:09,010 --> 00:25:10,646 that's it. That's all it is, you know? 465 00:25:10,646 --> 00:25:11,881 Let's do one more from the tippy. 466 00:25:11,881 --> 00:25:13,248 It's gonna be hard. 467 00:25:13,248 --> 00:25:14,619 You can do it. 468 00:25:15,887 --> 00:25:17,452 Okay. 469 00:25:17,452 --> 00:25:20,055 ♪ And just stand Stand there ♪ 470 00:25:20,055 --> 00:25:27,232 ♪ ("DREAMSICLE" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 471 00:25:29,033 --> 00:25:31,500 ♪ I guess We're leaving town again ♪ 472 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:33,902 ♪ We're moving out And moving in ♪ 473 00:25:33,902 --> 00:25:36,639 ♪ Got to break the news To all my friends ♪ 474 00:25:36,639 --> 00:25:38,940 ♪ But they won't care ♪ 475 00:25:38,940 --> 00:25:41,476 ♪ They'll just find Another face ♪ 476 00:25:41,476 --> 00:25:43,812 ♪ To fall behind To take my place ♪ 477 00:25:43,812 --> 00:25:46,314 ♪ And run way out Past second base ♪ 478 00:25:46,314 --> 00:25:48,653 ♪ And just stand there ♪ 479 00:25:49,954 --> 00:25:51,053 One more like that. That's cool. 480 00:25:51,053 --> 00:25:54,156 Okay. - ♪ To fall behind... ♪ 481 00:25:54,156 --> 00:25:57,392 Every single word of "Dreamsicle" 482 00:25:57,392 --> 00:25:59,894 just hit me with the broken glass, 483 00:25:59,894 --> 00:26:03,031 the poison ivy. Just words that nobody else understands, 484 00:26:03,031 --> 00:26:04,199 you know? 485 00:26:04,199 --> 00:26:07,802 Things that I didn't realize that he actually remembered. 486 00:26:07,802 --> 00:26:10,071 That's the thing about him, you know, he don't forget much. 487 00:26:10,071 --> 00:26:13,275 His songs are all about, you know, about real things. 488 00:26:13,275 --> 00:26:15,677 ♪ Poison oak and poison ivy ♪ 489 00:26:15,677 --> 00:26:18,080 ♪ Dirty jokes That blew right by me ♪ 490 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,918 ♪ Momma curling up beside me Crying to herself ♪ 491 00:26:22,918 --> 00:26:25,454 ♪ Why can't Daddy Just come home ♪ 492 00:26:25,454 --> 00:26:27,755 ♪ Forget whatever he did wrong ♪ 493 00:26:27,755 --> 00:26:32,360 ♪ He's in a hotel all alone And we need help ♪ 494 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,162 Let's punch that line. 495 00:26:34,162 --> 00:26:35,325 Twenty-one? 496 00:26:35,325 --> 00:26:36,532 Is that the right approach? 497 00:26:36,532 --> 00:26:37,532 Yeah, and it sounds 498 00:26:37,532 --> 00:26:38,767 like the sentiment, so that's great. 499 00:26:38,767 --> 00:26:40,363 Right, right. You're not gonna be like, 500 00:26:40,363 --> 00:26:42,003 "I'm so proud of my parents' divorce!" 501 00:26:42,003 --> 00:26:44,105 Yeah, exactly. 502 00:26:44,105 --> 00:26:45,408 You know, I still remember 503 00:26:45,408 --> 00:26:46,774 my parents fighting. 504 00:26:46,774 --> 00:26:49,511 And I remember how that felt, and I remember, you know, 505 00:26:49,511 --> 00:26:51,146 the things that caused me to be sad 506 00:26:51,146 --> 00:26:52,748 or to be stressed or to be anxious. 507 00:26:52,748 --> 00:26:54,315 I remember those things. 508 00:26:54,315 --> 00:26:56,552 You know, one time, we were in an argument, 509 00:26:56,552 --> 00:26:57,785 and it was bad. 510 00:26:57,785 --> 00:26:59,988 And Jason threw the baseball through the window. 511 00:26:59,988 --> 00:27:01,857 The baseball through the window was to get them 512 00:27:01,857 --> 00:27:04,796 to shut the hell up for three seconds. 513 00:27:05,697 --> 00:27:07,796 ♪ Broken glass and broken vows ♪ 514 00:27:07,796 --> 00:27:10,198 ♪ I'll be 18 Four years from now ♪ 515 00:27:10,198 --> 00:27:12,735 ♪ With different friends In a different town ♪ 516 00:27:12,735 --> 00:27:14,730 ♪ I'll finally be free ♪ 517 00:27:14,730 --> 00:27:16,838 But I definitely felt like I was in the middle 518 00:27:16,838 --> 00:27:20,942 of their trouble for years. Because I was put in the middle. 519 00:27:20,942 --> 00:27:24,713 My anger towards one parent was driven by the other parent. 520 00:27:24,713 --> 00:27:27,015 And I knew that they weren't supposed 521 00:27:27,015 --> 00:27:28,984 to be doing that to me. 522 00:27:28,984 --> 00:27:31,123 ♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 523 00:27:42,933 --> 00:27:44,900 People say, "I have no regrets," 524 00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:46,666 but I can pull some up. 525 00:27:47,471 --> 00:27:49,241 Took me a long time to grow up. 526 00:27:50,508 --> 00:27:53,075 The way I found out that they were getting a divorce 527 00:27:53,075 --> 00:27:55,977 was my mom picked me up from baseball camp. 528 00:27:55,977 --> 00:27:58,113 And she said, "We're leaving." 529 00:27:58,113 --> 00:28:01,350 And she told me that we would come back, 530 00:28:01,350 --> 00:28:07,722 but we were doing that so Dad would realize how he was. 531 00:28:07,722 --> 00:28:10,386 And so for a long time, I thought that was possible. 532 00:28:10,386 --> 00:28:13,528 And it's not. Turns out. 533 00:28:13,528 --> 00:28:17,365 ♪ A dreamsicle On a summer night ♪ 534 00:28:17,365 --> 00:28:20,602 ♪ In a folding lawn chair ♪ 535 00:28:20,602 --> 00:28:23,171 She took me to a hotel that night. 536 00:28:23,171 --> 00:28:27,009 ♪ Daddy's howling at the moon Better get home soon ♪ 537 00:28:27,009 --> 00:28:28,243 We went to the mall, 538 00:28:28,243 --> 00:28:30,979 and she bought me Don Mattingly's rookie card. 539 00:28:30,979 --> 00:28:33,014 I was a fan of Don Mattingly. 540 00:28:33,014 --> 00:28:36,685 ♪ Heat lightning In the evening sky ♪ 541 00:28:36,685 --> 00:28:40,255 ♪ And my momma's red hair ♪ 542 00:28:40,255 --> 00:28:42,958 I was touched by the gesture. 543 00:28:42,958 --> 00:28:45,126 I knew what she was doing, you know? 544 00:28:45,126 --> 00:28:47,728 And I felt for her because I knew 545 00:28:47,728 --> 00:28:50,769 she was trying to change the subject, you know? 546 00:28:52,869 --> 00:28:55,871 ♪ Hearts breaking Through the springtime ♪ 547 00:28:55,871 --> 00:28:58,277 ♪ Breaking into June ♪ 548 00:29:00,779 --> 00:29:02,847 ♪ Breaking into June ♪ 549 00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:07,920 ♪ Breaking into June ♪ 550 00:29:09,253 --> 00:29:10,289 That's it. 551 00:29:11,455 --> 00:29:13,025 We done, baby. Come on in. 552 00:29:16,460 --> 00:29:17,759 All right. Back it up. 553 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,262 Make four. Just mark four as being master take. 554 00:29:20,262 --> 00:29:22,197 Okay. Awesome. Awesome. 555 00:29:22,197 --> 00:29:24,666 'Cause Dave still thinks the song's about ice cream. 556 00:29:24,666 --> 00:29:26,735 - If it is about ice cream, 557 00:29:26,735 --> 00:29:28,237 this is my favorite song on the record. 558 00:29:29,204 --> 00:29:32,574 ♪ Heat lightning In the evening sky ♪ 559 00:29:32,574 --> 00:29:36,548 ♪ And my momma's red hair ♪ 560 00:29:39,049 --> 00:29:42,350 ♪ Hearts breaking Through the springtime ♪ 561 00:29:42,350 --> 00:29:44,256 ♪ Breaking into June ♪ 562 00:29:47,058 --> 00:29:48,393 ♪ Breaking into June ♪ 563 00:29:51,963 --> 00:29:53,532 ♪ Breaking into June ♪ 564 00:30:04,206 --> 00:30:08,880 ♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 565 00:30:13,084 --> 00:30:17,720 ♪ Amanda, light of my life ♪ 566 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,921 You got a crazy hair sticking 567 00:30:18,921 --> 00:30:20,823 out the side right there. 568 00:30:20,823 --> 00:30:22,257 So cute. Here, I'll smooth it out for you 569 00:30:22,257 --> 00:30:23,858 so it looks like shit. 570 00:30:23,858 --> 00:30:29,464 - ♪ Amanda, light of my life ♪ 571 00:30:29,464 --> 00:30:34,339 ♪ Fate should've made you A gentleman's wife ♪ 572 00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:37,840 It's called "Be Afraid." 573 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,742 But what key are you going to do it in? 574 00:30:39,742 --> 00:30:41,046 G. 575 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,048 All right. 576 00:30:45,315 --> 00:30:48,417 ♪ We've been testing you And you failed ♪ 577 00:30:48,417 --> 00:30:50,185 - That thing's so loud. What is? 578 00:30:50,185 --> 00:30:52,655 - The fiddle is right on me. Oh. 579 00:30:52,655 --> 00:30:54,890 - Wow. - So, do I need to move? 580 00:30:54,890 --> 00:30:57,396 No, I will back up. - Okay. Okay. 581 00:30:58,663 --> 00:31:00,429 What? 582 00:31:00,429 --> 00:31:03,264 Just the same amount as normal. 583 00:31:03,264 --> 00:31:08,136 ♪ ("BE AFRAID" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 584 00:31:08,136 --> 00:31:11,911 ♪ We've been testing you And you failed ♪ 585 00:31:13,545 --> 00:31:14,409 ♪ To see how long ♪ 586 00:31:14,409 --> 00:31:15,878 ♪ That you can sit With the truth ♪ 587 00:31:15,878 --> 00:31:17,847 ♪ But you bail ♪ 588 00:31:17,847 --> 00:31:19,848 ♪ And I don't think You'd even recognize ♪ 589 00:31:19,848 --> 00:31:21,150 ♪ The myth of control ♪ 590 00:31:21,150 --> 00:31:23,986 ♪ And I don't think You even see it in yourself ♪ 591 00:31:23,986 --> 00:31:25,954 ♪ Every one of us Is playing dice ♪ 592 00:31:25,954 --> 00:31:27,189 ♪ That we didn't roll ♪ 593 00:31:27,189 --> 00:31:30,129 ♪ And the loser is the last To ask for help ♪ 594 00:31:31,729 --> 00:31:34,533 ♪ Be afraid, be very afraid ♪ 595 00:31:35,734 --> 00:31:38,233 ♪ But do it anyway ♪ 596 00:31:38,233 --> 00:31:40,869 Songwriting has gotten harder for me 597 00:31:40,869 --> 00:31:42,672 as time has gone on 598 00:31:42,672 --> 00:31:45,007 just because I won't accept things 599 00:31:45,007 --> 00:31:46,307 that I used to accept. 600 00:31:46,307 --> 00:31:49,210 I won't be satisfied unless this album 601 00:31:49,210 --> 00:31:52,414 is an accurate representation of where I am as a person, 602 00:31:52,414 --> 00:31:54,215 which means that I'm more focused 603 00:31:54,215 --> 00:31:55,884 than I used to be in the studio. 604 00:31:55,884 --> 00:31:58,720 This is the cycle of anxiousness. 605 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,223 Like, any kind of thing that's going on his brain 606 00:32:01,223 --> 00:32:04,696 just presents as grumpiness, but really, it's something more. 607 00:32:06,997 --> 00:32:07,996 Then whatever, 608 00:32:07,996 --> 00:32:09,064 - however we end it. Cool. 609 00:32:09,064 --> 00:32:11,367 I would love if you change your playing 610 00:32:11,367 --> 00:32:13,035 to very jangly 611 00:32:13,035 --> 00:32:14,837 instead of that blocky thing, you know. 612 00:32:14,837 --> 00:32:17,272 Yeah, yeah, exactly. It would be way cooler. 613 00:32:17,272 --> 00:32:20,075 Yes, and that's a good start, just right there. Like that. 614 00:32:20,075 --> 00:32:21,811 Should I play a twelve-string electric? 615 00:32:21,811 --> 00:32:23,779 - Might be cooler than-- Yes... - No. 616 00:32:23,779 --> 00:32:26,014 - No? Amanda hates those. - I hate that. 617 00:32:26,014 --> 00:32:27,948 - Can we-- - 'Cause they don't have any in Texas. 618 00:32:29,353 --> 00:32:31,921 I know how he gets when he makes records, 619 00:32:31,921 --> 00:32:34,322 whether or not he sees it at the time or not. 620 00:32:34,322 --> 00:32:37,327 I'm not super comfortable being the whipping girl, 621 00:32:37,327 --> 00:32:39,528 so I just chill. 622 00:32:39,528 --> 00:32:41,396 I don't believe that you're the whipping girl, 623 00:32:41,396 --> 00:32:44,432 but most people don't go to work with their wife. 624 00:32:44,432 --> 00:32:45,935 Most people come home, and it's like, 625 00:32:45,935 --> 00:32:47,335 "Oh, my God, I'm so glad to see you. 626 00:32:47,335 --> 00:32:49,504 I can't wait to tell you about my day." 627 00:32:49,504 --> 00:32:54,209 But she knows about my day. What are we gonna talk about? 628 00:32:54,209 --> 00:32:56,278 You know, "Oh, my God, I'm so glad to see you. 629 00:32:56,278 --> 00:32:58,246 - I saw you 45 seconds ago." 630 00:32:58,246 --> 00:33:00,015 "And you fucked up that harmony part. 631 00:33:00,015 --> 00:33:01,249 And that was cool, remember that? 632 00:33:01,249 --> 00:33:02,717 - Okay, good night." - Rub it in. 633 00:33:02,717 --> 00:33:05,988 "What do you want to watch tonight? All right." 634 00:33:05,988 --> 00:33:08,123 Did you want to be in the control room or out here? 635 00:33:08,123 --> 00:33:10,192 - I'll just be up here. Okay. 636 00:33:10,192 --> 00:33:14,029 Since the sound of my fiddle was so much louder than normal. 637 00:33:15,596 --> 00:33:18,199 My fiddle was so much louder than normal. 638 00:33:18,199 --> 00:33:20,705 It's just like, dink-dink in my brain. 639 00:33:21,939 --> 00:33:23,038 - Dink? - Yeah, dink-dink! 640 00:33:23,038 --> 00:33:24,439 That's what I sound like? 641 00:33:24,439 --> 00:33:27,309 - Dink-dink. - You sound like a dink. 642 00:33:27,309 --> 00:33:28,347 Dink. 643 00:33:29,413 --> 00:33:31,279 Remember that grumpiness I was talking about? 644 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:34,183 - That's what just happened. - Let's do the Magnatone. 645 00:33:34,183 --> 00:33:36,118 Fucking loud fiddle. 646 00:33:36,118 --> 00:33:38,020 No, it's not. It's always this loud. 647 00:33:38,020 --> 00:33:39,321 This is... 648 00:33:39,321 --> 00:33:42,161 Isn't it? Yeah. That's what I thought. 649 00:33:45,963 --> 00:33:48,500 The 12-string guitar, geez. 650 00:33:49,901 --> 00:33:51,032 If I was producing this record, 651 00:33:51,032 --> 00:33:52,602 I'd take all the 12-string guitars 652 00:33:52,602 --> 00:33:53,772 and give them away. 653 00:33:56,174 --> 00:33:57,538 Are we gonna play this song? 654 00:33:57,538 --> 00:33:59,107 That's what I'm talking about. 655 00:33:59,107 --> 00:34:00,275 We're standing here with our... 656 00:34:00,275 --> 00:34:01,843 - Is there a song? - ...dicks in the dirt. 657 00:34:01,843 --> 00:34:04,446 I waited two hours for somebody else's burrito. 658 00:34:04,446 --> 00:34:06,416 Y'all going to let me tune this guitar. 659 00:34:10,921 --> 00:34:13,088 Fuck those people. I-- Yeah, I know. 660 00:34:13,088 --> 00:34:15,123 I'm the one paying for this shit. 661 00:34:15,123 --> 00:34:16,591 Sometimes he needs a lot of space. 662 00:34:16,591 --> 00:34:18,493 - You're goddamn right. - He's a big fucking man. 663 00:34:18,493 --> 00:34:21,130 You know, I'm a man from Alabama, for Christ sakes. 664 00:34:21,130 --> 00:34:22,764 - If the floor's shaking... - That's what we do. 665 00:34:22,764 --> 00:34:23,899 ...Momma's gonna get some space. 666 00:34:23,899 --> 00:34:26,205 Anyway, I don't have-- I can't go on. 667 00:34:28,872 --> 00:34:31,573 Yeah, you got something to do, or you just want to get out? 668 00:34:31,573 --> 00:34:33,809 Oh, I got things that I could do. 669 00:34:33,809 --> 00:34:35,010 Okay, that's fine. 670 00:34:35,010 --> 00:34:37,278 I mean, 'cause I was gonna do either the... 671 00:34:37,278 --> 00:34:40,082 ♪ Hard part is letting you go ♪ 672 00:34:40,082 --> 00:34:41,183 Oh, yeah, that's... 673 00:34:41,183 --> 00:34:42,317 - That one. Yeah. 674 00:34:42,317 --> 00:34:44,987 Probably do that one later, but, you know, 675 00:34:44,987 --> 00:34:46,387 it'd be cool if you were here for it. 676 00:34:46,387 --> 00:34:48,857 If you don't want to be, you don't have to be. 677 00:34:48,857 --> 00:34:49,991 Let's do this. 678 00:34:49,991 --> 00:34:51,359 This is-- Let's do this right now. 679 00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:54,029 I don't think I'll be able to think about this right now 680 00:34:54,029 --> 00:34:55,998 'til we've discussed. 681 00:34:55,998 --> 00:34:58,837 I'll send you a text. - Okay. Okay. 682 00:35:01,372 --> 00:35:05,240 Trying to navigate being in a relationship 683 00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:07,975 where we are family and we are married 684 00:35:07,975 --> 00:35:12,081 and we have a child together, and also working in the studio, 685 00:35:12,081 --> 00:35:13,582 you know, is a challenge. 686 00:35:13,582 --> 00:35:18,219 And I don't mean this to be an excuse for anything. 687 00:35:18,219 --> 00:35:19,887 You know, it's my own damn fault. 688 00:35:19,887 --> 00:35:22,324 But when I have a hard day, I can't just go home 689 00:35:22,324 --> 00:35:23,525 and have a drink. 690 00:35:23,525 --> 00:35:26,061 And used to, that's what I would do. 691 00:35:26,061 --> 00:35:29,732 So there's no escape... for me. 692 00:35:29,732 --> 00:35:30,966 There's the thing, though. 693 00:35:30,966 --> 00:35:32,401 There's the puzzle you're working out, 694 00:35:32,401 --> 00:35:34,770 that you need to figure out, I think. "There's no escape." 695 00:35:34,770 --> 00:35:35,936 There is an escape. 696 00:35:35,936 --> 00:35:38,106 You just have to figure out what it is, and it's music. 697 00:35:38,106 --> 00:35:39,341 - We know that. - Right. 698 00:35:39,341 --> 00:35:40,976 But I'm not gonna go home from the studio and sit 699 00:35:40,976 --> 00:35:42,177 and play guitar all night. 700 00:35:42,177 --> 00:35:44,012 Well, no, I know. But I'm just saying, 701 00:35:44,012 --> 00:35:45,750 then you should find another one. 702 00:35:48,452 --> 00:35:49,721 You know what I mean? 703 00:35:50,288 --> 00:35:52,921 Yeah. Yeah, I do. 704 00:35:52,921 --> 00:35:57,258 Um. And what I would prefer that to be, in a perfect world, 705 00:35:57,258 --> 00:35:59,594 is spending time with my daughter, 706 00:35:59,594 --> 00:36:02,264 but I just don't have time right now. 707 00:36:02,264 --> 00:36:03,564 Well, it's not that you don't have time. 708 00:36:03,564 --> 00:36:05,304 It's the schedules are different. 709 00:36:07,539 --> 00:36:11,839 Um. And that wears on me. 710 00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:14,910 If I don't get much time with her, it wears on me. 711 00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:17,649 Pretty quickly. Um... 712 00:36:19,717 --> 00:36:20,719 And that's that. 713 00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:29,794 ♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 714 00:36:34,665 --> 00:36:36,030 Hello, Dave. Hey, dude. 715 00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:38,266 How you doing, buddy? Fantastic, how about you? 716 00:36:38,266 --> 00:36:39,802 I had a rough night, but I'm good. 717 00:36:39,802 --> 00:36:40,835 What happened? 718 00:36:40,835 --> 00:36:43,171 Just, you know, we'll talk about it later. 719 00:36:43,171 --> 00:36:44,409 Okay. 720 00:36:45,643 --> 00:36:47,576 But I'm happy to be here. 721 00:36:47,576 --> 00:36:50,846 Everything is not good, but I am in the studio, 722 00:36:50,846 --> 00:36:52,814 so this feels comfortable. 723 00:36:52,814 --> 00:36:55,250 Yeah, why do you think I work in the studio every day? 724 00:36:55,250 --> 00:36:57,352 Yeah, no shit, man. 725 00:36:57,352 --> 00:36:58,520 So I didn't really sleep, 726 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,789 - but, man, I'm good. - Yeah. 727 00:37:01,791 --> 00:37:03,525 - Y'all want to do a song? Yeah. 728 00:37:03,525 --> 00:37:06,094 - All right. Here we go. 729 00:37:06,094 --> 00:37:09,564 ♪ She waits for the sunshine ♪ 730 00:37:09,564 --> 00:37:11,695 Okay, wait. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 731 00:37:11,695 --> 00:37:13,734 One, two, three, four. 732 00:37:13,734 --> 00:37:16,505 ♪ Ain't it something How the night can shine ♪ 733 00:37:16,505 --> 00:37:19,541 Let's do it again. One, two, three, four. 734 00:37:19,541 --> 00:37:21,610 ♪ Ain't it something How the night ♪ 735 00:37:21,610 --> 00:37:26,348 Walk into it. One, two, ready go. 736 00:37:26,348 --> 00:37:29,217 Ah. I counted that like a fucking idiot. 737 00:37:29,217 --> 00:37:31,186 - Wow. 738 00:37:31,186 --> 00:37:33,155 While we were recording Reunions, 739 00:37:33,155 --> 00:37:34,289 I was telling myself, 740 00:37:34,289 --> 00:37:36,458 "This is good. This is fine. This is easy. 741 00:37:36,458 --> 00:37:40,332 You have this under control." And that was not true. 742 00:37:44,601 --> 00:37:47,302 What was true was, I was really pressured 743 00:37:47,302 --> 00:37:49,438 and very stressed and sort of having 744 00:37:49,438 --> 00:37:51,739 a come-apart in there. 745 00:37:51,739 --> 00:37:54,446 Like, "Ugh, is this gonna be any good or not?" 746 00:38:02,419 --> 00:38:04,114 Amanda could definitely see something 747 00:38:04,114 --> 00:38:06,754 that even I couldn't see at that point. 748 00:38:06,754 --> 00:38:09,925 That's, I think, the thing that frustrates her the most 749 00:38:09,925 --> 00:38:13,095 is when I refuse to acknowledge something 750 00:38:13,095 --> 00:38:14,830 that she can see. 751 00:38:14,830 --> 00:38:17,299 I just couldn't be around it anymore 752 00:38:17,299 --> 00:38:18,703 'cause it was so... 753 00:38:21,138 --> 00:38:23,008 fake. It was so fake. 754 00:38:25,576 --> 00:38:29,579 ♪ Somebody told her She was beautiful ♪ 755 00:38:29,579 --> 00:38:32,084 ♪ Every time she turned around ♪ 756 00:38:33,550 --> 00:38:36,852 ♪ But when she opened up Her mouth to speak ♪ 757 00:38:36,852 --> 00:38:40,588 ♪ It clearly didn't make A sound ♪ 758 00:38:40,588 --> 00:38:46,429 Everything was so magnified and intense, 759 00:38:46,429 --> 00:38:47,662 and I just was like, 760 00:38:47,662 --> 00:38:50,731 if you could just say that all this bullshit 761 00:38:50,731 --> 00:38:54,336 is because you're nervous or under pressure or whatever 762 00:38:54,336 --> 00:38:55,536 that'd go a lot further 763 00:38:55,536 --> 00:38:59,374 than pretending it all away, you know? 764 00:38:59,374 --> 00:39:02,939 ♪ She waits For the sun to rise ♪ 765 00:39:02,939 --> 00:39:04,746 ♪ Behind his midnight eyes ♪ 766 00:39:04,746 --> 00:39:07,410 ♪ And the windstorm Had passed ♪ 767 00:39:07,410 --> 00:39:10,618 ♪ And ain't it something How the night can shine ♪ 768 00:39:10,618 --> 00:39:14,955 ♪ Through a bottle of wine against a bedroom wall ♪ 769 00:39:14,955 --> 00:39:18,093 ♪ And ain't it something When her eyes light up ♪ 770 00:39:18,093 --> 00:39:22,701 ♪ And it's exactly enough And you can let yourself fall ♪ 771 00:39:29,173 --> 00:39:33,445 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 772 00:39:35,246 --> 00:39:37,049 We done. - Good, thank God. 773 00:39:38,482 --> 00:39:39,780 So, you're coming later tomorrow? 774 00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:42,250 Yep. I just have to sleep 'cause I didn't last night... 775 00:39:42,250 --> 00:39:44,953 Yeah. - ...so I won't be any later than 2:00, though. 776 00:39:44,953 --> 00:39:46,722 Okay, you should go home 777 00:39:46,722 --> 00:39:48,556 and just put your iPhone outside tonight 778 00:39:48,556 --> 00:39:50,158 - for a little while. 779 00:39:50,158 --> 00:39:52,227 And bring the noise in 780 00:39:52,227 --> 00:39:53,661 - from your home. Oh, record? 781 00:39:53,661 --> 00:39:54,930 Yeah. - Yeah, that would be nice, 782 00:39:54,930 --> 00:39:56,932 but I'm not going to my home tonight. 783 00:39:56,932 --> 00:39:59,635 Oh, okay. - Anything'll sound too good 784 00:39:59,635 --> 00:40:00,869 in the hall at the Omni. 785 00:40:00,869 --> 00:40:02,472 Oh, is that where you're staying tonight? 786 00:40:02,472 --> 00:40:03,742 Yeah. 787 00:40:05,976 --> 00:40:07,913 Well... - Maybe tomorrow, Dave. 788 00:40:09,113 --> 00:40:11,407 Well, whenever you do. 789 00:40:11,407 --> 00:40:13,413 All right, everybody, I'll see you guys tomorrow. 790 00:40:14,851 --> 00:40:18,153 Jason is extremely hard on himself, 791 00:40:18,153 --> 00:40:22,590 and it can be painful for everyone around him. 792 00:40:22,590 --> 00:40:26,061 I knew the first moment I ever met him, 793 00:40:26,061 --> 00:40:30,465 he was destined for greatness. 794 00:40:30,465 --> 00:40:33,834 But Jason was young when he joined our band. 795 00:40:33,834 --> 00:40:36,137 I had always planned on being in a band. 796 00:40:36,137 --> 00:40:40,075 I'd always had that as my driving force, you know? 797 00:40:40,075 --> 00:40:42,077 The Drive-By Truckers had played in Nashville 798 00:40:42,077 --> 00:40:44,480 at one of the first Americana Music Conferences, 799 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,614 and the next day, 800 00:40:45,614 --> 00:40:47,015 the guitar player didn't show up, 801 00:40:47,015 --> 00:40:48,650 and Jason just sat in. 802 00:40:48,650 --> 00:40:49,885 You know, I was like, "Man, you mind 803 00:40:49,885 --> 00:40:52,992 if I play with you guys since you're one short?" 804 00:40:56,193 --> 00:41:00,032 He was like a way-next-level guitar player. 805 00:41:00,665 --> 00:41:01,729 Jason's playing along 806 00:41:01,729 --> 00:41:03,732 like he had been rehearsing it for years. 807 00:41:03,732 --> 00:41:04,933 So at the end of the night, 808 00:41:04,933 --> 00:41:06,634 I was like, "Hey, man, get in the van. 809 00:41:06,634 --> 00:41:09,705 Let's go play some rock and roll." 810 00:41:09,705 --> 00:41:11,807 I was, "Yes, I'm there. I'll do it." 811 00:41:11,807 --> 00:41:13,141 You know, I wanted to get out, 812 00:41:13,141 --> 00:41:15,244 get on the road, and tour. And I wanted to write songs. 813 00:41:15,244 --> 00:41:19,714 I wanted people to hear 'em. I was so excited. So excited. 814 00:41:19,714 --> 00:41:22,517 The next day, his mom dropped him off 815 00:41:22,517 --> 00:41:24,685 to get in our van to leave for Oklahoma. 816 00:41:24,685 --> 00:41:29,128 And Jason's like, "Mom, whatever you do, 817 00:41:29,994 --> 00:41:31,526 don't say, 818 00:41:31,526 --> 00:41:33,461 'Take care of my boy, or something like that.'" 819 00:41:33,461 --> 00:41:35,863 She's sizing me up. It's like, 820 00:41:35,863 --> 00:41:38,699 "You're not gonna let my boy die out there, are you?" 821 00:41:38,699 --> 00:41:41,536 They open the back of the van, and there lays Earl Hicks, 822 00:41:41,536 --> 00:41:44,267 passed out drunk. Patterson comes around. 823 00:41:44,267 --> 00:41:45,607 And he puts his arm around Jason, 824 00:41:45,607 --> 00:41:47,042 and he says, "Don't worry, Mom. 825 00:41:47,042 --> 00:41:49,144 We're gonna take real good care of your boy." 826 00:41:49,144 --> 00:41:51,814 It was like that scene from Almost Famous, you know? 827 00:41:51,814 --> 00:41:53,915 "Don't do drugs!" 828 00:41:53,915 --> 00:41:56,585 - Y'all know Jason, don't you? 829 00:42:00,622 --> 00:42:03,824 Coming into that was mind-boggling for me 830 00:42:03,824 --> 00:42:06,862 because it really was exchanging everything I knew 831 00:42:06,862 --> 00:42:09,930 for something completely different. 832 00:42:09,930 --> 00:42:13,301 There was a lot of humor, and there was a lot of drinking 833 00:42:13,301 --> 00:42:17,105 and a lot of things that I had never seen before. 834 00:42:17,105 --> 00:42:21,076 The first tour with Jason was beyond magical. 835 00:42:21,076 --> 00:42:23,812 He wrote "Decoration Day" like the fourth day 836 00:42:23,812 --> 00:42:26,442 he was in the band. I'm like, "Holy shit, 837 00:42:26,442 --> 00:42:27,949 where's this kid been all my life," you know? 838 00:42:27,949 --> 00:42:30,719 It's like, "Oh, elementary school." 839 00:42:32,287 --> 00:42:34,659 ♪ It's Decoration Day ♪ 840 00:42:36,326 --> 00:42:41,329 ♪ Had a mind to roll A stone on his grave ♪ 841 00:42:41,329 --> 00:42:44,299 ♪ But what would he say? ♪ 842 00:42:44,299 --> 00:42:49,942 ♪ He'd say, "Keeping me down Ain't gonna keep you away" ♪ 843 00:42:50,908 --> 00:42:53,278 ♪ It's Decoration Day ♪ 844 00:42:54,606 --> 00:42:59,348 ♪ And I knew The Hill boys put him away ♪ 845 00:42:59,348 --> 00:43:02,654 ♪ But my daddy wasn't afraid ♪ 846 00:43:03,453 --> 00:43:05,020 ♪ He said, "We'd fight ♪ 847 00:43:05,020 --> 00:43:09,825 ♪ Until the last Lawson's Last living day" ♪ 848 00:43:09,825 --> 00:43:12,627 It was everything I ever wanted. 849 00:43:12,627 --> 00:43:14,796 You know, the things that I'd sit in my room 850 00:43:14,796 --> 00:43:17,699 and rehearsed while my parents were getting a divorce. 851 00:43:17,699 --> 00:43:21,369 It was the fantasy that I went to to disconnect 852 00:43:21,369 --> 00:43:22,905 from the house that I was in. 853 00:43:22,905 --> 00:43:25,707 It was everything. It was everything. 854 00:43:25,707 --> 00:43:27,275 No matter what went wrong in my life, 855 00:43:27,275 --> 00:43:29,010 I thought, "But I can do this." 856 00:43:29,010 --> 00:43:30,779 With Jason joining the band, 857 00:43:30,779 --> 00:43:34,716 we basically jumped from one size room 858 00:43:34,716 --> 00:43:38,020 over the next size room to the next size room 859 00:43:38,020 --> 00:43:40,155 in a space of about three months. 860 00:43:40,155 --> 00:43:43,892 We had this chemistry that made us better together 861 00:43:43,892 --> 00:43:46,161 than any of us were separate. 862 00:43:46,161 --> 00:43:50,260 And so it was like this really powerful thing. 863 00:43:50,260 --> 00:43:52,567 ♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 864 00:43:52,567 --> 00:43:53,734 The Drive-By Truckers 865 00:43:53,734 --> 00:43:56,505 were pretty established and, you know, kind of 866 00:43:56,505 --> 00:43:58,907 "professional drinkers," 867 00:43:58,907 --> 00:44:00,942 you know, by the time he joined the band. 868 00:44:00,942 --> 00:44:03,112 And it was just a rolling party. 869 00:44:03,112 --> 00:44:05,080 I mean, we drank a lot, you know? 870 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,419 We rocked hard. We drank hard. We drove hard. We lived hard. 871 00:44:17,228 --> 00:44:19,595 It wouldn't be right for me to say all of the sudden, 872 00:44:19,595 --> 00:44:21,731 I started drinking and doing drugs 873 00:44:21,731 --> 00:44:23,064 when I joined the band. 874 00:44:23,064 --> 00:44:25,768 It's just that the situations were heavier 875 00:44:25,768 --> 00:44:27,202 than what I'd been used to. 876 00:44:27,202 --> 00:44:28,871 ♪ ("DANKO / MANUEL" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 877 00:44:28,871 --> 00:44:32,077 ♪ I ain't living like I should ♪ 878 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,415 ♪ A little rest Might do me good ♪ 879 00:44:40,415 --> 00:44:43,852 I think drinking gave him confidence. 880 00:44:43,852 --> 00:44:45,988 Not, "I'm gonna be a badass and fight you, 881 00:44:45,988 --> 00:44:50,225 but I can express myself whereas I am that Southern man 882 00:44:50,225 --> 00:44:52,928 who doesn't express himself if I'm not drinking." 883 00:44:52,928 --> 00:44:57,399 ♪ And I ain't living Like I should ♪ 884 00:44:57,399 --> 00:45:00,630 I was adjusting to the world outside 885 00:45:00,630 --> 00:45:03,372 - of my Alabama upbringing... 886 00:45:03,372 --> 00:45:06,236 ...and dealing with stuff from my childhood 887 00:45:06,236 --> 00:45:07,375 that I never dealt with. 888 00:45:07,375 --> 00:45:09,110 I mean, that's probably the biggest part of it, 889 00:45:09,110 --> 00:45:11,212 was the fact that... ...you know, 890 00:45:11,212 --> 00:45:14,049 I never had any kind of therapy and didn't know 891 00:45:14,049 --> 00:45:17,322 that my problems were problems that could be solved. 892 00:45:18,589 --> 00:45:20,188 We can look back now 893 00:45:20,188 --> 00:45:23,459 and see a lot of dangerous patterns emerging 894 00:45:23,459 --> 00:45:24,760 with his drinking. 895 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,928 But we were a little oblivious to that, 896 00:45:26,928 --> 00:45:28,797 I'm ashamed to say, at the time. 897 00:45:28,797 --> 00:45:31,834 We would be on stage performing and handing each other 898 00:45:31,834 --> 00:45:33,401 the bottle of whiskey and take a swig 899 00:45:33,401 --> 00:45:35,170 out of the bottle, you know? 900 00:45:35,170 --> 00:45:37,640 Then after the show, you'd go out to a bar, 901 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,041 I mean, already lit, 902 00:45:39,041 --> 00:45:41,910 and go out to have six or seven more. 903 00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:44,783 It just snowballed. 904 00:45:47,718 --> 00:45:49,451 There was one night in Memphis 905 00:45:49,451 --> 00:45:55,323 that was the first ever hint of there being this dark side, 906 00:45:55,323 --> 00:45:58,827 you know, 'cause he was so-- he was so Jason. 907 00:45:58,827 --> 00:46:00,295 He was kind of a ray of light. 908 00:46:02,030 --> 00:46:05,233 I was highly inebriated. I drank, you know, 909 00:46:05,233 --> 00:46:08,738 an entire handle of Jack Daniel's. 910 00:46:08,738 --> 00:46:11,507 I took some cocaine and some valium 911 00:46:11,507 --> 00:46:12,840 or something like that. 912 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,412 And I overdosed and, you know, woke up all bloody. 913 00:46:17,412 --> 00:46:20,281 And Shonna, the bass player in the Drive-By Truckers, 914 00:46:20,281 --> 00:46:23,318 who I was dating at the time, was slapping me 915 00:46:23,318 --> 00:46:25,955 and crying and thought that I was dead. 916 00:46:25,955 --> 00:46:28,524 He was pretty cut up and looked like 917 00:46:28,524 --> 00:46:29,991 he had been in a fight. 918 00:46:29,991 --> 00:46:32,827 He might've been cutting himself a little bit. I don't know. 919 00:46:32,827 --> 00:46:36,198 It-- Something got really fucked up that night. 920 00:46:36,198 --> 00:46:38,261 Obviously, some things had gone 921 00:46:38,261 --> 00:46:39,972 very wrong with Jason. 922 00:46:41,538 --> 00:46:45,808 ♪ So I'll take two Of what you're having ♪ 923 00:46:45,808 --> 00:46:49,879 ♪ And I'll take all Of what you got ♪ 924 00:46:49,879 --> 00:46:53,549 ♪ To kill this goddamn lonely ♪ 925 00:46:53,549 --> 00:46:57,189 ♪ Goddamn lonely love ♪ 926 00:47:02,893 --> 00:47:05,794 I felt like what I was gonna do 927 00:47:05,794 --> 00:47:07,830 was straighten my life out, 928 00:47:07,830 --> 00:47:09,898 and I felt like I owed it to Shonna 929 00:47:09,898 --> 00:47:12,834 because she had taken care of me. 930 00:47:12,834 --> 00:47:15,471 We went, I think, the next day to the courthouse 931 00:47:15,471 --> 00:47:16,504 and got married. 932 00:47:16,504 --> 00:47:20,743 But I was not prepared for a marriage or any kind 933 00:47:20,743 --> 00:47:24,046 of a real relationship at that point. 934 00:47:24,046 --> 00:47:28,183 ♪ All I got Is this goddamn lonely ♪ 935 00:47:28,183 --> 00:47:32,053 ♪ Goddamn lonely love ♪ 936 00:47:32,053 --> 00:47:34,723 I just wasn't being an actual grown-up. 937 00:47:34,723 --> 00:47:37,659 I had built the illusion of grown-upness, 938 00:47:37,659 --> 00:47:40,165 but I was not living as an adult. 939 00:47:41,933 --> 00:47:43,393 The Drive-By Truckers were playing 940 00:47:43,393 --> 00:47:44,700 at Webster Hall one night. 941 00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:46,101 And I remember getting to the venue, 942 00:47:46,101 --> 00:47:49,938 and Jason just announces to me, "I'm getting divorced." 943 00:47:49,938 --> 00:47:53,576 When the relationship between Jason and Shonna 944 00:47:53,576 --> 00:47:55,047 started going bad... 945 00:47:57,247 --> 00:48:00,649 you know, that affected all of us for sure. 946 00:48:00,649 --> 00:48:02,450 By that time, we're in a bus, 947 00:48:02,450 --> 00:48:05,053 but a bus becomes a really small place quick 948 00:48:05,053 --> 00:48:07,222 when there's 11 people living in it. 949 00:48:07,222 --> 00:48:12,094 That period was bad. That was a bad time in my life. 950 00:48:14,963 --> 00:48:17,166 He was, in a lot of ways, 951 00:48:17,166 --> 00:48:19,300 spiraling out of control. 952 00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:23,771 And I saw the potential for that to get a lot worse. 953 00:48:23,771 --> 00:48:28,480 There was a point where I was definitely worried about, 954 00:48:29,113 --> 00:48:30,412 you know, him dying. 955 00:48:30,412 --> 00:48:33,414 The situation with Jason had gotten so bad 956 00:48:33,414 --> 00:48:35,420 that it was just-- it was making us 957 00:48:36,020 --> 00:48:37,486 not enjoy our job. 958 00:48:37,486 --> 00:48:39,621 It was threatening the life of the band. 959 00:48:39,621 --> 00:48:42,591 Honestly, I think his ego also started growing 960 00:48:42,591 --> 00:48:43,826 and getting out of control. 961 00:48:43,826 --> 00:48:46,328 And there's only so much people can take. 962 00:48:46,328 --> 00:48:48,964 Patterson and Cooley just put a stop to it. 963 00:48:48,964 --> 00:48:51,100 It was shocking to me when I was fired. 964 00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:54,235 But in hindsight, it should not have been shocking to me. 965 00:48:54,235 --> 00:48:55,637 Now, I look back at it, 966 00:48:55,637 --> 00:48:58,440 and, yeah, I would've fired that guy too. What an asshole. 967 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,843 Breaking up with Jason damn near killed me 968 00:49:00,843 --> 00:49:02,177 in a lot of ways. I mean, 969 00:49:02,177 --> 00:49:06,214 I was beyond heartbroken to see it ending like that. 970 00:49:06,214 --> 00:49:09,151 I was terrified about what it was gonna do to the band 971 00:49:09,151 --> 00:49:12,054 because he was a vital important part 972 00:49:12,054 --> 00:49:13,755 of what we were doing. 973 00:49:13,755 --> 00:49:16,925 - That's a big thing to lose. I mean, I didn't want 974 00:49:16,925 --> 00:49:18,861 my parents to get a divorce either. 975 00:49:18,861 --> 00:49:20,362 But, you know now I'm glad they did 976 00:49:20,362 --> 00:49:23,032 'cause in hindsight, they were pretty... 977 00:49:23,032 --> 00:49:24,499 ...you know, pretty miserable. 978 00:49:24,499 --> 00:49:26,935 Definitely felt some guilt 979 00:49:26,935 --> 00:49:29,037 when things started going wrong with him. 980 00:49:29,037 --> 00:49:31,073 Maybe we should've handled it differently. 981 00:49:31,073 --> 00:49:32,574 Maybe we should've been more aware. 982 00:49:32,574 --> 00:49:36,111 Maybe we should've, you know, maybe I should've. 983 00:49:36,111 --> 00:49:38,647 Maybe I should've been more aware. 984 00:49:38,647 --> 00:49:43,485 I was the one who put him in that van that night. 985 00:49:43,485 --> 00:49:46,288 I'm the one who told his momma he was gonna be okay. 986 00:49:46,288 --> 00:49:48,589 You know, it's very sad. It was very sad. 987 00:49:48,589 --> 00:49:52,061 I went to a bar to go get very, very drunk 988 00:49:52,061 --> 00:49:54,696 and ordered a double and then another one 989 00:49:54,696 --> 00:49:58,466 and another one and another one. For five more years. 990 00:49:58,466 --> 00:50:02,574 ♪ ("ONLY CHILDREN" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 991 00:50:07,879 --> 00:50:10,379 ♪ Heaven's wasted on the dead ♪ 992 00:50:10,379 --> 00:50:12,815 ♪ That's what your momma said ♪ 993 00:50:12,815 --> 00:50:15,587 ♪ Heaven's wasted on the dead ♪ 994 00:50:16,287 --> 00:50:17,519 ♪ Heaven's waste... ♪ 995 00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:19,691 Why that doesn't feel right to me. 996 00:50:22,026 --> 00:50:25,026 For the bridge, so, uh, C. 997 00:50:25,026 --> 00:50:26,396 ♪ Heaven's waste... ♪ 998 00:50:26,396 --> 00:50:27,296 Let's try C... 999 00:50:27,296 --> 00:50:29,098 ♪ Heaven's wasted On the dead ♪ 1000 00:50:29,098 --> 00:50:30,899 How've you been doing? - ♪ (MUSIC STOPS) ♪ 1001 00:50:30,899 --> 00:50:32,067 Hey, where have you been lately? 1002 00:50:32,067 --> 00:50:34,936 Oh, just doing all kinds of stuff. 1003 00:50:34,936 --> 00:50:37,438 I like your glasses. - Thank you. 1004 00:50:37,438 --> 00:50:40,743 - You know, got to keep it vibey. 1005 00:50:40,743 --> 00:50:43,674 ♪ Heaven's wasted on the dead ♪ 1006 00:50:43,674 --> 00:50:45,613 ♪ That's what your momma said ♪ 1007 00:50:45,613 --> 00:50:49,421 ♪ And the hearse idling In the parking lot ♪ 1008 00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:52,187 So we'll take it from right after the chorus 1009 00:50:52,187 --> 00:50:53,689 so everybody knows where they're at. Okay? 1010 00:50:53,689 --> 00:50:54,789 Okay. - Back up. 1011 00:50:54,789 --> 00:50:56,425 On the bridge, should I play a chord, like... 1012 00:50:56,425 --> 00:50:58,493 - No, no. Keep picking, yeah. Just keep going? Okay. 1013 00:50:58,493 --> 00:51:00,095 ♪ ("ONLY CHILDREN" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 1014 00:51:00,095 --> 00:51:02,932 ♪ Heaven's wasted on the dead ♪ 1015 00:51:02,932 --> 00:51:04,799 ♪ That's what your momma said ♪ 1016 00:51:04,799 --> 00:51:08,673 ♪ And the hearse was idling In the parking lot ♪ 1017 00:51:10,641 --> 00:51:13,742 ♪ She said you thought The world of me ♪ 1018 00:51:13,742 --> 00:51:15,676 ♪ And you were glad to see ♪ 1019 00:51:15,676 --> 00:51:19,618 ♪ They finally let me be An astronaut ♪ 1020 00:51:37,501 --> 00:51:44,406 ♪ Are you still taking notes? You have anyone to talk to? ♪ 1021 00:51:44,406 --> 00:51:48,310 ♪ Castle walls That you can walk through? ♪ 1022 00:51:48,310 --> 00:51:52,213 ♪ And do the dead believe In ghosts? ♪ 1023 00:51:52,213 --> 00:51:55,083 ♪ Or are you lost In some old building ♪ 1024 00:51:55,083 --> 00:51:58,457 ♪ With over-encouraged Only children? ♪ 1025 00:52:10,935 --> 00:52:12,433 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 1026 00:52:12,433 --> 00:52:14,502 Amazing. Do you wanna go into overdubs, 1027 00:52:14,502 --> 00:52:16,205 or do you want to go into another song? 1028 00:52:16,205 --> 00:52:18,507 Oh, I need about 20 minutes to myself. 1029 00:52:18,507 --> 00:52:21,043 So I'm gonna take that, and then I'll come in and do... 1030 00:52:21,043 --> 00:52:22,281 All right. 1031 00:52:22,981 --> 00:52:24,549 Can I talk to you for a minute? 1032 00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:27,649 I mean, now's not a really great time for me, 1033 00:52:27,649 --> 00:52:30,419 - but... Okay. Okay, no problem. 1034 00:52:30,419 --> 00:52:34,223 My wife and I got in a spot that was probably pretty close 1035 00:52:34,223 --> 00:52:36,591 to just calling the whole thing off. 1036 00:52:36,591 --> 00:52:40,395 Uh, yeah, it was definitely close to that. 1037 00:52:40,395 --> 00:52:43,866 She was offended by my behavior, and I was offended by hers. 1038 00:52:43,866 --> 00:52:46,867 We just kept our distance for a week or more. 1039 00:52:46,867 --> 00:52:49,766 That's part of what made it so difficult for me, 1040 00:52:49,766 --> 00:52:51,172 was the fact that we didn't know 1041 00:52:51,172 --> 00:52:52,574 what to say to each other, you know? 1042 00:52:52,574 --> 00:52:54,677 We didn't know how to talk or communicate 1043 00:52:54,677 --> 00:52:56,344 at that point in time. 1044 00:52:56,344 --> 00:52:58,646 Yeah, but th-- He was being an asshat. 1045 00:52:58,646 --> 00:53:00,315 He wouldn't talk to me on the phone. 1046 00:53:00,315 --> 00:53:02,985 He wouldn't respond to my text messages. 1047 00:53:02,985 --> 00:53:06,621 I sent an email full of my thoughts, 1048 00:53:06,621 --> 00:53:10,392 and he didn't respond for, like, fucking three days. 1049 00:53:10,392 --> 00:53:12,227 I just-- I have to be able to work 1050 00:53:12,227 --> 00:53:14,129 no matter what stupid shit is going on. 1051 00:53:14,129 --> 00:53:15,697 Really, you can? I can't. 1052 00:53:15,697 --> 00:53:17,332 Well, I don't have a choice, Dave. 1053 00:53:17,332 --> 00:53:19,801 - It's either that or fail. Yeah. 1054 00:53:19,801 --> 00:53:23,800 Um, I think now we can switch into overdub. 1055 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,677 Yeah, I think so, too. 1056 00:53:28,378 --> 00:53:30,045 All right, here we go from the top. 1057 00:53:30,045 --> 00:53:34,553 ♪ ("ST. PETER'S AUTOGRAPH" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 1058 00:53:37,922 --> 00:53:39,288 "Dear Mr. Husband, 1059 00:53:39,288 --> 00:53:41,389 I know you're under a lot of stress and pressure, 1060 00:53:41,389 --> 00:53:44,459 whether you think it or not. I can see it in your face. 1061 00:53:44,459 --> 00:53:45,893 I know that you aren't sleeping, 1062 00:53:45,893 --> 00:53:49,431 and focusing so hard is probably wearing you out. 1063 00:53:49,431 --> 00:53:52,734 I'm sorry all this happened during your record-making. 1064 00:53:52,734 --> 00:53:54,903 The other night, I was truly asking questions 1065 00:53:54,903 --> 00:53:57,272 and trying to figure out my role in the studio 1066 00:53:57,272 --> 00:54:00,742 because it felt a lot like I was unnecessary. 1067 00:54:00,742 --> 00:54:03,345 You made comments to me that embarrassed me. 1068 00:54:03,345 --> 00:54:04,913 Then you couldn't answer the question about 1069 00:54:04,913 --> 00:54:07,115 if I should be there or not because you wanted me 1070 00:54:07,115 --> 00:54:08,450 to decide for myself. 1071 00:54:08,450 --> 00:54:11,456 Or as you said, 'I don't know if I need you there.' 1072 00:54:12,822 --> 00:54:14,589 You were holding on so tight to your position 1073 00:54:14,589 --> 00:54:17,559 that you couldn't see that you were hurting my feelings. 1074 00:54:17,559 --> 00:54:20,499 I had, and still have, so many tears. 1075 00:54:23,328 --> 00:54:25,233 I was considering marriage counseling with you 1076 00:54:25,233 --> 00:54:27,835 this last week because I thought it might help. 1077 00:54:27,835 --> 00:54:30,906 Then this morning, I pictured us going, and I was happy. 1078 00:54:30,906 --> 00:54:32,978 Who gets excited about marriage counseling? 1079 00:54:34,345 --> 00:54:36,611 Then I cried like a dingbat because this is 1080 00:54:36,611 --> 00:54:39,380 what it has come to for me, for us. 1081 00:54:39,380 --> 00:54:42,184 Dates to marriage counseling. 1082 00:54:42,184 --> 00:54:44,452 You know that I am open to most all things, 1083 00:54:44,452 --> 00:54:46,388 and I'm quick to accept my share 1084 00:54:46,388 --> 00:54:49,328 or more of my share of the blame." Whoo. 1085 00:54:51,229 --> 00:54:53,494 "You said, 'I'm not broken anymore.' 1086 00:54:53,494 --> 00:54:56,331 I know that. I appreciate how strong you are 1087 00:54:56,331 --> 00:54:58,367 and the ways that you have changed. 1088 00:54:58,367 --> 00:55:01,269 I don't need you to be broken or dented or anything. 1089 00:55:01,269 --> 00:55:04,773 I just love you. See you at the stooge." 1090 00:55:07,175 --> 00:55:14,619 ♪ ("ST. PETER'S AUTOGRAPH" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 1091 00:55:29,566 --> 00:55:32,571 ♪ What do I do To make you smile? ♪ 1092 00:55:34,806 --> 00:55:37,409 ♪ You been hurting for a while ♪ 1093 00:55:40,277 --> 00:55:44,344 ♪ What can I do To make you laugh? ♪ 1094 00:55:45,382 --> 00:55:47,953 ♪ Get Saint Peter's autograph ♪ 1095 00:55:50,521 --> 00:55:53,658 ♪ What's that distance In your eye? ♪ 1096 00:55:55,792 --> 00:55:58,863 ♪ Has your faith Been compromised? ♪ 1097 00:56:01,031 --> 00:56:04,736 ♪ What can I do To help you sleep? ♪ 1098 00:56:06,437 --> 00:56:09,041 ♪ I'll work hard And work for cheap ♪ 1099 00:56:11,875 --> 00:56:17,146 ♪ Sometimes it's nothing But the way you're wired ♪ 1100 00:56:17,146 --> 00:56:19,584 ♪ And that's not your fault ♪ 1101 00:56:22,686 --> 00:56:27,557 ♪ We're all struggling With the world on fire ♪ 1102 00:56:27,557 --> 00:56:30,862 ♪ And the fear we're taught ♪ 1103 00:56:35,366 --> 00:56:38,037 ♪ Now you've lost Another friend ♪ 1104 00:56:40,637 --> 00:56:43,675 ♪ Who couldn't stay To see the end ♪ 1105 00:56:45,777 --> 00:56:49,081 ♪ He had somewhere else to be ♪ 1106 00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:54,153 ♪ Cut him down And burn the tree ♪ 1107 00:56:56,453 --> 00:57:00,625 ♪ There's no shelter From the rain ♪ 1108 00:57:01,858 --> 00:57:05,164 ♪ And I can't comprehend Your pain ♪ 1109 00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:11,470 ♪ But I got arms And I got ears ♪ 1110 00:57:12,569 --> 00:57:15,707 ♪ And I will always be Right here ♪ 1111 00:58:02,419 --> 00:58:05,224 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 1112 00:58:10,761 --> 00:58:13,529 Amanda and I have very different personalities 1113 00:58:13,529 --> 00:58:15,563 but identical values. 1114 00:58:15,563 --> 00:58:17,833 I think at the root of things, we both care very, 1115 00:58:17,833 --> 00:58:20,068 very much for each other and very much 1116 00:58:20,068 --> 00:58:21,370 for each other's work. 1117 00:58:21,370 --> 00:58:24,273 I don't think she's done with me, 1118 00:58:24,273 --> 00:58:25,974 and I'm not done with her. 1119 00:58:25,974 --> 00:58:28,271 So, sometimes it's like, "Well, we can't figure out 1120 00:58:28,271 --> 00:58:30,979 exactly how to get the bridge built, 1121 00:58:30,979 --> 00:58:33,983 but I'm just gonna wave at you from this side." 1122 00:58:33,983 --> 00:58:37,085 Then you have to keep your own identity 1123 00:58:37,085 --> 00:58:40,422 and your own boundaries intact, I think. So, I think sometimes, 1124 00:58:40,422 --> 00:58:41,856 like, space and time is a good thing 1125 00:58:41,856 --> 00:58:43,859 'cause we, like, live together, we work together, 1126 00:58:43,859 --> 00:58:45,427 - we record together. - Yeah, that's a big one. 1127 00:58:45,427 --> 00:58:46,794 - That's a big one. - And so sometimes, 1128 00:58:46,794 --> 00:58:51,003 it's nice to take a breath and be, like... you know... 1129 00:59:16,419 --> 00:59:19,427 Well, hello. Look at your overalls. 1130 00:59:19,427 --> 00:59:20,957 I have a present for you. 1131 00:59:20,957 --> 00:59:22,264 What is it? 1132 00:59:22,264 --> 00:59:23,965 - Aw! Open it. 1133 00:59:23,965 --> 00:59:25,968 Come on in. I'll open it inside. 1134 00:59:25,968 --> 00:59:27,397 - Hey, guys. Hey, buddy. 1135 00:59:27,397 --> 00:59:28,904 - How you doing? Thanks for coming. 1136 00:59:28,904 --> 00:59:30,275 ♪ (SOFT VIOLIN MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1137 00:59:40,651 --> 00:59:42,278 I haven't been here in a long time. 1138 00:59:42,278 --> 00:59:43,619 I know. It's been a while. 1139 00:59:43,619 --> 00:59:45,324 What do you think about the place? 1140 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,995 You hear that? Who's that sound like? 1141 00:59:52,995 --> 00:59:54,967 Mommy. Yeah. 1142 00:59:57,101 --> 00:59:58,337 That's neat too. 1143 00:59:59,371 --> 01:00:00,703 Go see her. 1144 01:00:00,703 --> 01:00:02,605 - Hey! Hey, Mercy. 1145 01:00:02,605 --> 01:00:05,441 - What's up? 1146 01:00:05,441 --> 01:00:06,841 How are you doing? 1147 01:00:06,841 --> 01:00:08,910 I gave Daddy a present. You did? 1148 01:00:08,910 --> 01:00:12,952 Mm. Give me some love. I missed you so much. 1149 01:00:16,788 --> 01:00:18,958 Thank y'all for bringing her by. 1150 01:00:19,791 --> 01:00:22,558 Open it! - Look at that! 1151 01:00:22,558 --> 01:00:23,625 It's me and Santa. 1152 01:00:23,625 --> 01:00:26,494 That's the best picture I ever got. 1153 01:00:26,494 --> 01:00:28,267 That's the best picture I ever gotten. 1154 01:00:31,201 --> 01:00:33,836 - I love you, buddy. - Did you eat the chocolate? 1155 01:00:33,836 --> 01:00:36,571 I haven't yet. I put it in my pocket. 1156 01:00:36,571 --> 01:00:38,940 I'm gonna eat it at the perfect time. 1157 01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:41,576 - After dinner. - Yeah. 1158 01:00:41,576 --> 01:00:43,945 ♪ ("WHAT'VE I DONE TO HELP" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING OVER SPEAKERS) ♪ 1159 01:00:43,945 --> 01:00:47,715 ♪ We climbed to safety You and me and the baby ♪ 1160 01:00:47,715 --> 01:00:50,152 ♪ Sent our thoughts And prayers to loved ones ♪ 1161 01:00:50,152 --> 01:00:51,223 ♪ On the ground ♪ 1162 01:00:54,491 --> 01:00:59,127 ♪ And as the days went by We just stopped looking down ♪ 1163 01:00:59,127 --> 01:01:01,196 ♪ Down, down ♪ 1164 01:01:01,196 --> 01:01:05,600 ♪ Now the world's on fire And we just climb higher ♪ 1165 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,272 ♪ Until we're no longer bothered By the smoke and sound ♪ 1166 01:01:10,272 --> 01:01:14,910 ♪ Good people suffer And the heart gets tougher ♪ 1167 01:01:14,910 --> 01:01:18,850 ♪ Nothing given, nothing found ♪ 1168 01:01:20,251 --> 01:01:24,453 ♪ What've I done to help? What've I done to help? ♪ 1169 01:01:24,453 --> 01:01:26,358 ♪ Somebody saved me ♪ 1170 01:01:28,225 --> 01:01:29,257 ♪ (SONG FADES) ♪ 1171 01:01:29,257 --> 01:01:30,826 I don't look at something and think, 1172 01:01:30,826 --> 01:01:32,261 "This is gonna be difficult." 1173 01:01:32,261 --> 01:01:35,998 I just look at it and think, "Is this worth doing or not?" 1174 01:01:35,998 --> 01:01:39,868 Is it better for us to do this as a team? 1175 01:01:39,868 --> 01:01:41,904 My family is incredibly important to me, 1176 01:01:41,904 --> 01:01:44,173 but my job is very important to me, too, 1177 01:01:44,173 --> 01:01:47,376 because I know that I could not be 1178 01:01:47,376 --> 01:01:49,712 of any use to anybody else 1179 01:01:49,712 --> 01:01:51,213 if I had to do something different 1180 01:01:51,213 --> 01:01:53,516 with my life. I mean, this is the mask 1181 01:01:53,516 --> 01:01:55,617 that I have to put on first 1182 01:01:55,617 --> 01:01:58,388 before I can put anybody else's on, you know? 1183 01:01:58,388 --> 01:01:59,254 Dave, you ready? 1184 01:01:59,254 --> 01:02:00,889 Do you want to sit the couch or... 1185 01:02:00,889 --> 01:02:02,824 I think here is fine. Okay. 1186 01:02:02,824 --> 01:02:04,829 Let's put it in record, Gena. 1187 01:02:06,297 --> 01:02:07,262 All right. 1188 01:02:07,262 --> 01:02:10,899 ♪ ("LETTING YOU GO" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 1189 01:02:10,899 --> 01:02:14,937 ♪ The nurse helped us buckle The seat in the car ♪ 1190 01:02:14,937 --> 01:02:17,473 ♪ And they sent us on our way ♪ 1191 01:02:17,473 --> 01:02:19,941 ♪ I drove home so slow ♪ 1192 01:02:19,941 --> 01:02:24,013 ♪ We had no instructions And the first days were hard ♪ 1193 01:02:24,013 --> 01:02:26,648 ♪ But there's things About babies ♪ 1194 01:02:26,648 --> 01:02:29,054 ♪ A woman just knows ♪ 1195 01:02:32,489 --> 01:02:34,723 ♪ At 3:00 in the morning ♪ 1196 01:02:34,723 --> 01:02:37,825 ♪ I lay my hand Over your heart ♪ 1197 01:02:37,825 --> 01:02:41,429 ♪ Just to know you were safe In your sleep ♪ 1198 01:02:41,429 --> 01:02:45,533 ♪ When you started walking I'd fight back the urge ♪ 1199 01:02:45,533 --> 01:02:50,875 ♪ To stay right there beside you To keep you on your feet ♪ 1200 01:02:54,811 --> 01:02:58,083 ♪ And being your daddy Comes natural ♪ 1201 01:02:59,583 --> 01:03:02,454 ♪ Roses just know how to grow ♪ 1202 01:03:04,122 --> 01:03:05,753 ♪ It's easy to see ♪ 1203 01:03:05,753 --> 01:03:08,390 ♪ That you'll get Where you're going ♪ 1204 01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:12,461 ♪ But the hard part Is letting you go... ♪ 1205 01:03:12,461 --> 01:03:13,796 ♪ (SONGS CONCLUDES) ♪ 1206 01:03:13,796 --> 01:03:17,565 - Hmm, hmm. Hmm. Shit, dude. Whoo. 1207 01:03:17,565 --> 01:03:21,569 - That's incredible. - Thank you. Take me a minute. 1208 01:03:21,569 --> 01:03:24,072 And then, the older you get, the more emotional you get. 1209 01:03:24,072 --> 01:03:25,941 Like, I can't hardly talk to anybody 1210 01:03:25,941 --> 01:03:29,011 without something choking me up now. 1211 01:03:29,011 --> 01:03:30,445 It's a good thing you don't have a bunch 1212 01:03:30,445 --> 01:03:32,881 of hired guns in your band when that happens 1213 01:03:32,881 --> 01:03:35,117 'cause they'd be going off tomorrow to Black Bird 1214 01:03:35,117 --> 01:03:36,284 and telling everybody in the studio, 1215 01:03:36,284 --> 01:03:38,587 "That son of a bitch was crying at his own song. 1216 01:03:38,587 --> 01:03:39,955 What an asshole." 1217 01:03:39,955 --> 01:03:41,423 ♪ (SONG CONTINUES) ♪ 1218 01:03:41,423 --> 01:03:45,560 ♪ And now you've decided To be someone's wife ♪ 1219 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:50,698 ♪ And we walk down the aisle And I'll give you away ♪ 1220 01:03:50,698 --> 01:03:55,103 ♪ I wish I could walk with him Back through your life ♪ 1221 01:03:55,103 --> 01:04:00,245 ♪ To see every last minute Of every last day ♪ 1222 01:04:04,215 --> 01:04:05,948 ♪ To hear your first words ♪ 1223 01:04:05,948 --> 01:04:08,616 ♪ And to feel Your first heartbreak ♪ 1224 01:04:08,616 --> 01:04:13,521 ♪ To sing you to sleep When you're scared of the dark ♪ 1225 01:04:13,521 --> 01:04:17,893 ♪ The best I can do Is to let myself trust ♪ 1226 01:04:17,893 --> 01:04:20,896 ♪ That you know Who'll be strong enough ♪ 1227 01:04:20,896 --> 01:04:23,535 ♪ To carry your heart ♪ 1228 01:04:26,570 --> 01:04:29,272 ♪ And being your daddy Comes natural... ♪ 1229 01:04:29,272 --> 01:04:30,372 I'm a dad. 1230 01:04:30,372 --> 01:04:32,508 I can't help but to hear the lyrics on that one. 1231 01:04:32,508 --> 01:04:33,876 He's always got those songs, 1232 01:04:33,876 --> 01:04:36,372 that jerk, he makes us all a mess and cry. 1233 01:04:36,372 --> 01:04:37,979 ♪ It's easy to see ♪ 1234 01:04:37,979 --> 01:04:40,481 ♪ That you'll get Where you're going ♪ 1235 01:04:40,481 --> 01:04:44,523 ♪ But the hard part Is letting you go ♪ 1236 01:04:45,456 --> 01:04:49,658 ♪ The hard part Is letting you go ♪ 1237 01:04:49,658 --> 01:04:51,330 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 1238 01:04:54,731 --> 01:04:56,231 The good thing is your daughter's four. 1239 01:04:56,231 --> 01:04:58,434 Mm-hmm. - Got some time. 1240 01:04:58,434 --> 01:05:00,135 Yeah. 1241 01:05:00,135 --> 01:05:02,307 Yeah, you're right. I do have some time. 1242 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,616 - Love you so much. I miss you. - Love you so much. 1243 01:05:13,616 --> 01:05:14,983 - But, hey, guess what? - What? 1244 01:05:14,983 --> 01:05:16,151 We get done with this record, 1245 01:05:16,151 --> 01:05:18,086 that means we get to go back on tour 1246 01:05:18,086 --> 01:05:20,088 and play new songs for everybody 1247 01:05:20,088 --> 01:05:22,357 and go have lots of fun together, okay? 1248 01:05:22,357 --> 01:05:25,260 - Maybe do "Oh Well" again? - I'll do "Oh Well" again. 1249 01:05:25,260 --> 01:05:26,528 - That's your favorite? - And "Anxiety?" 1250 01:05:26,528 --> 01:05:29,634 Yeah, and "Anxiety." All your favorites. 1251 01:05:31,068 --> 01:05:32,334 I won't throw them out. 1252 01:05:32,334 --> 01:05:34,069 I'll still play them for you, okay? 1253 01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:35,971 Okay. When will you throw them out? 1254 01:05:35,971 --> 01:05:37,205 I don't think I ever will. 1255 01:05:37,205 --> 01:05:38,841 I think I'll just keep playing them for you 1256 01:05:38,841 --> 01:05:40,275 as long as you want to hear them, okay? 1257 01:05:40,275 --> 01:05:42,077 I want to hear them forever. 1258 01:05:42,077 --> 01:05:44,449 Okay, good. Well, that's what we'll do. 1259 01:05:47,416 --> 01:05:50,655 - You'll always be with me. - Yeah, I will. 1260 01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:54,122 - Ever. - Forever. 1261 01:05:54,122 --> 01:05:56,459 Always be your what? What are we? 1262 01:05:56,459 --> 01:05:58,394 - BFFs. - BFFs. 1263 01:05:59,594 --> 01:06:01,129 You know, you get in this headspace, 1264 01:06:01,129 --> 01:06:03,298 I think, when you're an addict, where you think, 1265 01:06:03,298 --> 01:06:07,202 "I can control my little corner of the universe." 1266 01:06:07,202 --> 01:06:09,738 And things come in and remind you that 1267 01:06:09,738 --> 01:06:11,240 that's not really possible. 1268 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,611 So, all you can really control is your reactions to things. 1269 01:06:25,653 --> 01:06:28,857 Okay, so you push the red button. 1270 01:06:28,857 --> 01:06:31,196 Is there a red light on the screen? 1271 01:06:31,862 --> 01:06:33,361 Red dot is on. 1272 01:06:33,361 --> 01:06:35,597 Can you get some audio on the back of camera, too? 1273 01:06:35,597 --> 01:06:37,099 Is there some movement when you make-- 1274 01:06:37,099 --> 01:06:39,634 Hello. Hey, audio, yeah. Yeah, that's working. 1275 01:06:39,634 --> 01:06:43,271 Okay, good. Welcome to pandemic filmmaking. 1276 01:06:43,271 --> 01:06:45,675 Let me just close this Zoom window here, 1277 01:06:45,675 --> 01:06:47,209 and we'll be ready to go. 1278 01:06:47,209 --> 01:06:49,278 Ready for your first interview questions? 1279 01:06:49,278 --> 01:06:50,315 Yeah. 1280 01:06:51,315 --> 01:06:53,315 What does quarantine mean to you? 1281 01:06:53,315 --> 01:06:55,550 It means that you have to stay home. 1282 01:06:55,550 --> 01:06:57,620 What do you like to do during the day 1283 01:06:57,620 --> 01:06:59,324 - in quarantine? - Well... 1284 01:07:02,059 --> 01:07:06,231 sometimes, just sometimes... 1285 01:07:10,067 --> 01:07:13,068 I have the best days ever. 1286 01:07:13,068 --> 01:07:17,006 Momma! Stay back! It's not a good idea! 1287 01:07:17,006 --> 01:07:19,570 What's not a good idea, huh? 1288 01:07:19,570 --> 01:07:20,843 Here you go. Here you go. 1289 01:07:20,843 --> 01:07:22,177 Do you want to give them some food? 1290 01:07:22,177 --> 01:07:23,478 That's what they're following you for. 1291 01:07:23,478 --> 01:07:25,748 - Really? Throw some. Okay. 1292 01:07:25,748 --> 01:07:26,848 Who's gonna get it? 1293 01:07:26,848 --> 01:07:28,583 You know, I've been touring since I was 12 1294 01:07:28,583 --> 01:07:30,652 and professionally since I was 15. 1295 01:07:30,652 --> 01:07:34,023 And this is the first time in my whole life 1296 01:07:34,023 --> 01:07:37,926 that I haven't played music, like, 1297 01:07:37,926 --> 01:07:40,963 at least once every four or five days. 1298 01:07:40,963 --> 01:07:43,168 One coming right behind you, Momma. 1299 01:07:47,302 --> 01:07:49,437 Ow! 1300 01:07:49,437 --> 01:07:52,307 Boy, she got me hard. One pecked my leg. 1301 01:07:52,307 --> 01:07:55,343 She got my toe big time, thinking it was a worm. 1302 01:07:55,343 --> 01:07:57,045 Technically, this is probably 1303 01:07:57,045 --> 01:07:58,279 the most time Jason and Amanda 1304 01:07:58,279 --> 01:08:00,148 have ever actually spent together. 1305 01:08:00,148 --> 01:08:01,616 They're pecking my toes. 1306 01:08:01,616 --> 01:08:03,685 Amanda very much has her own career 1307 01:08:03,685 --> 01:08:06,755 outside the 400 Unit. So there can be weeks at a time 1308 01:08:06,755 --> 01:08:09,057 when they're not together because they're each 1309 01:08:09,057 --> 01:08:11,793 touring behind their own projects. 1310 01:08:11,793 --> 01:08:14,496 Usually, she goes somewhere and I go somewhere, 1311 01:08:14,496 --> 01:08:18,600 and then we come back together, and we compare our experiences. 1312 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,269 Yeah. And now all of a sudden, 1313 01:08:20,269 --> 01:08:22,437 that has stopped. 1314 01:08:22,437 --> 01:08:25,306 The ways that we used to celebrate being alive 1315 01:08:25,306 --> 01:08:29,211 are not available to us now, so we celebrate being alive 1316 01:08:29,211 --> 01:08:31,975 by catching fireflies and watching skunks 1317 01:08:31,975 --> 01:08:35,183 and picking flowers and weeding the garden. 1318 01:08:35,183 --> 01:08:36,651 This is not Thoreau. 1319 01:08:36,651 --> 01:08:38,353 I'm not saying that this is the way 1320 01:08:38,353 --> 01:08:40,088 - humans should live. But we don't get to-- 1321 01:08:40,088 --> 01:08:41,589 I don't like it. Yeah. 1322 01:08:41,589 --> 01:08:44,325 I didn't used to be a stop-and-look-in-the-bird-nest 1323 01:08:44,325 --> 01:08:45,527 - kind of guy. 1324 01:08:45,527 --> 01:08:49,098 - But I'm an egg counter now. 1325 01:08:52,368 --> 01:08:54,235 There they go. 1326 01:08:54,235 --> 01:08:57,139 How do you like that new voice you got, babies? 1327 01:08:58,406 --> 01:08:59,908 I don't know if it's just that the lens 1328 01:08:59,908 --> 01:09:01,010 has gotten so small 1329 01:09:01,010 --> 01:09:02,211 'cause we're in these little bubbles 1330 01:09:02,211 --> 01:09:05,447 of our own stuff, but I'm wrestling with what, 1331 01:09:05,447 --> 01:09:08,620 like, what are-- what is our purpose now? 1332 01:09:09,686 --> 01:09:11,619 I knew she would do that. She always does that. 1333 01:09:11,619 --> 01:09:15,323 Did you see her? You missed her? She flew right out. 1334 01:09:15,323 --> 01:09:18,327 And always get her at a bad time. 1335 01:09:18,327 --> 01:09:19,862 - Three little eggs. - I caught it! 1336 01:09:19,862 --> 01:09:22,197 Nurturing things and distracting myself 1337 01:09:22,197 --> 01:09:25,467 is the best way that I can sort of, you know, 1338 01:09:25,467 --> 01:09:29,341 try to not think too hard on all this crap. 1339 01:09:29,941 --> 01:09:30,839 Hello? 1340 01:09:30,839 --> 01:09:32,274 Hey, is that Jason? 1341 01:09:32,274 --> 01:09:33,541 Yeah, this is Jason. 1342 01:09:33,541 --> 01:09:34,910 Hey, Jason. This is Josh from Guitar.com. 1343 01:09:34,910 --> 01:09:37,478 - How's it going, man? - How are you doing, Josh? 1344 01:09:37,478 --> 01:09:39,480 Yeah, yeah, not too bad, man, not too bad. 1345 01:09:39,480 --> 01:09:41,150 - How you doing yourself? - Doing all right. 1346 01:09:41,150 --> 01:09:43,485 We're all stuck in the house still, 1347 01:09:43,485 --> 01:09:45,187 but we're healthy. We're doing okay. 1348 01:09:45,187 --> 01:09:46,621 - Oh, wait. I'm getting 1349 01:09:46,621 --> 01:09:48,656 another call from London right now. 1350 01:09:48,656 --> 01:09:50,292 - Let me-- Hold on there a second. Okay. 1351 01:09:50,292 --> 01:09:53,161 Are you with the Sun? 1352 01:09:53,161 --> 01:09:55,763 Uh, no. I'm with Guitar.com. 1353 01:09:55,763 --> 01:10:00,802 Okay. I've got you listed for 12:30. Can you call me back? 1354 01:10:00,802 --> 01:10:02,437 Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely... 1355 01:10:02,437 --> 01:10:04,505 Fantastic. We'll do that in an hour and a half. 1356 01:10:04,505 --> 01:10:06,878 Okay. That's good, man. - Thank you. 1357 01:10:10,347 --> 01:10:13,282 They never ever get the times right. 1358 01:10:13,282 --> 01:10:14,987 I'm so glad you saw that. 1359 01:10:18,655 --> 01:10:20,322 Since the pandemic started, 1360 01:10:20,322 --> 01:10:25,160 we are constantly evolving our plans for the record, 1361 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,461 plans for touring, 1362 01:10:26,461 --> 01:10:29,097 trying to keep the ball rolling, basically. 1363 01:10:29,097 --> 01:10:33,535 The record's called Reunions, and it is done. It is complete. 1364 01:10:33,535 --> 01:10:36,739 This is the beautiful vinyl that we will be releasing out 1365 01:10:36,739 --> 01:10:37,772 into this mad world. 1366 01:10:37,772 --> 01:10:39,341 It's a strange time 1367 01:10:39,341 --> 01:10:41,276 to be releasing an album in some ways, isn't it? 1368 01:10:41,276 --> 01:10:43,511 Yeah, it's a strange time to be doing anything. 1369 01:10:43,511 --> 01:10:45,746 It's a strange time to go to the grocery store. 1370 01:10:45,746 --> 01:10:48,716 But, you know, definitely releasing an album 1371 01:10:48,716 --> 01:10:52,720 because you're so used to that immediate gratification 1372 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,327 of going out and performing the songs live. 1373 01:10:59,296 --> 01:11:04,399 ♪ (MELLOW MUSIC PLAYING ON GUITAR) ♪ 1374 01:11:04,399 --> 01:11:07,669 - Hello. Oh, hello. Hello. I had the lens cap on. 1375 01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:10,873 Hello, lens cap from the world of tomorrow. 1376 01:11:10,873 --> 01:11:13,878 Welcome to sound check. - Welcome. 1377 01:11:15,946 --> 01:11:17,349 There's Zach. 1378 01:11:18,650 --> 01:11:20,319 It's dark out here. 1379 01:11:21,119 --> 01:11:23,452 Here's our things. 1380 01:11:23,452 --> 01:11:25,420 You can see the only thing we've opened so far 1381 01:11:25,420 --> 01:11:27,656 are the Doritos. And by "we," I mean "me." 1382 01:11:27,656 --> 01:11:29,157 Happy record release day. 1383 01:11:29,157 --> 01:11:30,592 Happy record release day. 1384 01:11:30,592 --> 01:11:33,462 Amanda Shires being her glam squad. 1385 01:11:33,462 --> 01:11:35,397 Be your own glam squad. 1386 01:11:35,397 --> 01:11:37,298 Tell us how you feel about release day. 1387 01:11:37,298 --> 01:11:39,001 I feel good about release day. 1388 01:11:39,001 --> 01:11:43,038 It's exciting to release an album that I feel good about. 1389 01:11:43,038 --> 01:11:46,174 I think it's a good album, but it's also really weird 1390 01:11:46,174 --> 01:11:49,439 because the pandemic has changed the way we do everything, 1391 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,479 - including releasing the album. - And we miss our band today. 1392 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,449 We miss our band so much. We miss our audience. 1393 01:11:54,449 --> 01:11:56,151 Yeah. We miss our crew. 1394 01:11:56,151 --> 01:11:57,385 I miss our bus. 1395 01:11:57,385 --> 01:11:58,720 ♪ ("IT GETS EASIER" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 1396 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,556 ♪ Last night I dreamed That I'd been drinking ♪ 1397 01:12:01,556 --> 01:12:05,493 ♪ Same dream I have about twice a week ♪ 1398 01:12:05,493 --> 01:12:09,259 ♪ I had a glass of wine I woke up feeling fine ♪ 1399 01:12:09,259 --> 01:12:11,867 ♪ And that's how I knew It was a dream ♪ 1400 01:12:11,867 --> 01:12:16,875 ♪ It gets easier But it never gets easy ♪ 1401 01:12:19,543 --> 01:12:24,344 ♪ I can say it's all worth it But you won't believe me ♪ 1402 01:12:27,085 --> 01:12:30,886 ♪ And you can't expect her To follow your lead ♪ 1403 01:12:30,886 --> 01:12:33,989 ♪ She's fine with her wine And her weed ♪ 1404 01:12:33,989 --> 01:12:38,898 ♪ It gets easier But it never gets easy ♪ 1405 01:12:40,230 --> 01:12:42,501 ♪ It never gets easy... ♪ 1406 01:12:43,901 --> 01:12:46,034 This album was the biggest thing 1407 01:12:46,034 --> 01:12:47,668 that I've ever done. 1408 01:12:47,668 --> 01:12:51,639 And the process of making it wasn't easy. 1409 01:12:51,639 --> 01:12:53,774 I wanted to be there with my band, making really, 1410 01:12:53,774 --> 01:12:56,778 really loud noises and then, you know, eating dinner 1411 01:12:56,778 --> 01:12:59,747 and drinking some kind of non-alcoholic cocktail 1412 01:12:59,747 --> 01:13:03,318 and high-fiving each other, making goofy speeches. 1413 01:13:03,318 --> 01:13:05,657 And that was not available to me. 1414 01:13:11,928 --> 01:13:17,136 ♪ It gets easier But it never gets easy ♪ 1415 01:13:18,202 --> 01:13:20,505 ♪ It never gets easy ♪ 1416 01:13:25,544 --> 01:13:27,746 ♪ It never gets easy ♪ 1417 01:13:31,549 --> 01:13:35,250 - ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 1418 01:13:35,250 --> 01:13:36,985 Amanda says, "Congratulations. 1419 01:13:36,985 --> 01:13:39,691 I know it's not what you hoped, but it's awesome." 1420 01:13:40,558 --> 01:13:41,657 And thank you very much. 1421 01:13:41,657 --> 01:13:44,326 Thank you for understanding that. 1422 01:13:44,326 --> 01:13:46,561 'Cause it is weird as shit. This is weird. 1423 01:13:46,561 --> 01:13:48,730 If you got little kids, tell 'em don't say "shit" 1424 01:13:48,730 --> 01:13:50,933 if you want to, but I'm gonna say it again. 1425 01:13:50,933 --> 01:13:53,463 This is weird as shit, but it would feel weirder 1426 01:13:53,463 --> 01:13:55,971 to not put a record out because when I make a record, 1427 01:13:55,971 --> 01:13:59,540 I make it about my life and how my life is then. 1428 01:13:59,540 --> 01:14:02,577 And my life changes, so I don't want to wait a year 1429 01:14:02,577 --> 01:14:05,380 and then talk about what my life was like. 1430 01:14:05,380 --> 01:14:07,816 - Thanks. Happy record release! 1431 01:14:07,816 --> 01:14:09,818 Yay! 1432 01:14:09,818 --> 01:14:11,753 You know, it turned out being better 1433 01:14:11,753 --> 01:14:14,021 than I expected, and it turned out 1434 01:14:14,021 --> 01:14:17,425 being a great experience for me and for the audience, I think, 1435 01:14:17,425 --> 01:14:19,762 but it wasn't what I wanted to do. 1436 01:14:19,762 --> 01:14:23,568 And that sort of lack of celebration... 1437 01:14:24,769 --> 01:14:26,769 was... was deflating for me. 1438 01:14:26,769 --> 01:14:30,976 ♪ (UPBEAT DRUMS PLAYING) ♪ 1439 01:14:34,979 --> 01:14:36,811 When the record was due to drop, 1440 01:14:36,811 --> 01:14:39,848 I was still holding on to hope that before too long, 1441 01:14:39,848 --> 01:14:41,951 we can get out and do something behind this. 1442 01:14:41,951 --> 01:14:45,988 When I finally came around to the reality, 1443 01:14:45,988 --> 01:14:49,424 which is, I'm not going anywhere for a good while, 1444 01:14:49,424 --> 01:14:51,491 depression would kind of set in. 1445 01:14:53,397 --> 01:14:55,264 The guys need some love. 1446 01:14:55,264 --> 01:14:56,798 They're really proud of the record, 1447 01:14:56,798 --> 01:15:00,035 and they just are sitting home, watching from the sidelines. 1448 01:15:00,035 --> 01:15:01,106 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 1449 01:15:03,774 --> 01:15:07,242 It doesn't feel right. It's unsettling, you know. 1450 01:15:07,242 --> 01:15:11,546 I feel like I should be on tour, you know? I mean, I really do. 1451 01:15:11,546 --> 01:15:14,016 My body is telling me I should have wheels... 1452 01:15:14,016 --> 01:15:16,751 ...underneath me right now, you know? 1453 01:15:16,751 --> 01:15:19,889 Like I feel the pull of the highway, so to speak. 1454 01:15:19,889 --> 01:15:21,826 ♪ (ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1455 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,134 The way I've been dealing with it 1456 01:15:32,134 --> 01:15:35,707 has just been to go with the flow of things. 1457 01:15:37,175 --> 01:15:39,141 I have no idea what Derry's doing. 1458 01:15:39,141 --> 01:15:41,177 He looks like he's building a spaceship. 1459 01:15:50,955 --> 01:15:52,921 The new 400 Unit record, Reunions, 1460 01:15:52,921 --> 01:15:55,124 is the top-selling album in the country. 1461 01:15:55,124 --> 01:15:57,092 In a different time, if you had the number-one record 1462 01:15:57,092 --> 01:15:58,761 on the charts, you wouldn't be so worried 1463 01:15:58,761 --> 01:16:01,329 about the next month. 1464 01:16:01,329 --> 01:16:03,766 Considering the fact that we're in a pandemic, 1465 01:16:03,766 --> 01:16:06,535 I expected way less and was prepared 1466 01:16:06,535 --> 01:16:07,869 to be okay with that. 1467 01:16:07,869 --> 01:16:10,972 So this is an incredible surprise for me. 1468 01:16:10,972 --> 01:16:13,042 In some ways, it's a bittersweet thing, 1469 01:16:13,042 --> 01:16:15,677 but I will say I never thought I would play in a band 1470 01:16:15,677 --> 01:16:18,213 that had a number-one anything. 1471 01:16:18,213 --> 01:16:21,083 What I meant to say was, I always knew I'd play in a band 1472 01:16:21,083 --> 01:16:22,922 that would have a number-one album. 1473 01:16:25,156 --> 01:16:26,288 One, two, three. 1474 01:16:26,288 --> 01:16:28,223 ♪ ("WHAT'VE I DONE TO HELP?" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 1475 01:16:28,223 --> 01:16:29,857 ♪ What've I done to help? ♪ 1476 01:16:29,857 --> 01:16:33,999 ♪ What've I done to help? Somebody saved me ♪ 1477 01:16:37,134 --> 01:16:41,403 ♪ What've I done to help? What've I done to help? ♪ 1478 01:16:41,403 --> 01:16:43,342 ♪ And not myself? ♪ 1479 01:16:46,777 --> 01:16:50,679 ♪ What've I done to help? What've I done to help? ♪ 1480 01:16:50,679 --> 01:16:53,082 ♪ Somebody saved me ♪ 1481 01:16:53,082 --> 01:16:55,417 I had a little bit of a come-apart yesterday. 1482 01:16:55,417 --> 01:17:00,021 Amanda and I were filming a live performance for CBS, 1483 01:17:00,021 --> 01:17:03,224 and about halfway through the first song, 1484 01:17:03,224 --> 01:17:08,096 the Amazon delivery guy came up onto the porch 1485 01:17:08,096 --> 01:17:09,831 - and dropped something off. 1486 01:17:09,831 --> 01:17:13,468 It was sort of like a breaking point for me. 1487 01:17:13,468 --> 01:17:16,405 You know, I just told Amanda, "I'm fucking tired of this. 1488 01:17:16,405 --> 01:17:17,839 I'm-- I've had enough. 1489 01:17:17,839 --> 01:17:21,176 I know that we're in a much better situation 1490 01:17:21,176 --> 01:17:24,079 than most people are, but I've still just had enough 1491 01:17:24,079 --> 01:17:27,682 of this shit. It just fucking sucks." 1492 01:17:27,682 --> 01:17:29,785 It's like you sit down to eat a sandwich, 1493 01:17:29,785 --> 01:17:32,287 and all you have are two slices of bread. 1494 01:17:32,287 --> 01:17:34,655 You don't have anything to put in between it. 1495 01:17:34,655 --> 01:17:36,858 You're trying to pretend it's a sandwich, 1496 01:17:36,858 --> 01:17:39,160 and then halfway through it, somebody comes up 1497 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,496 and interrupts you. And you want to say, 1498 01:17:41,496 --> 01:17:44,966 "Goddamn it, I'm already just eating two slices of bread 1499 01:17:44,966 --> 01:17:46,869 and pretending it's a sandwich. 1500 01:17:46,869 --> 01:17:49,737 Why can't you just let me do that?" 1501 01:17:49,737 --> 01:17:51,106 He's not aware when he does it, 1502 01:17:51,106 --> 01:17:54,242 but he'll be like, "Are you not having any fun?" 1503 01:17:54,242 --> 01:17:57,846 And then he stomps around and is grumpy, and I was like, 1504 01:17:57,846 --> 01:18:00,849 "Are you having fun, you know? What are you doing?" 1505 01:18:00,849 --> 01:18:03,151 But then after the recording, he sat down 1506 01:18:03,151 --> 01:18:06,955 and just started talking about all of it. 1507 01:18:06,955 --> 01:18:09,124 Kind of just kind of, like, uh, 1508 01:18:09,124 --> 01:18:10,760 when you get in an over-full bathtub, 1509 01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,098 but it just kind of splashes everywhere. 1510 01:18:16,968 --> 01:18:18,166 You know, when's the next time 1511 01:18:18,166 --> 01:18:21,437 I'm gonna play a regular show at The Greek 1512 01:18:21,437 --> 01:18:22,971 for thousands of people? 1513 01:18:22,971 --> 01:18:25,206 All crammed in together, jumping up and down 1514 01:18:25,206 --> 01:18:27,408 and sweating and dancing and having a good time. 1515 01:18:27,408 --> 01:18:31,116 Is it gonna be five years? Is it ever gonna happen again? 1516 01:18:34,185 --> 01:18:36,085 If it wasn't for Amanda and Mercy, 1517 01:18:36,085 --> 01:18:38,988 I would possibly go back to drinking 1518 01:18:38,988 --> 01:18:40,789 because who gives a fuck? Who's even watching? 1519 01:18:40,789 --> 01:18:42,057 Who's looking anymore? 1520 01:18:42,057 --> 01:18:43,825 It's not like I'm gonna mess up a show. 1521 01:18:43,825 --> 01:18:47,095 I can't go play one. I'm not going to do that 1522 01:18:47,095 --> 01:18:49,731 because I spend a ton of time with my daughter 1523 01:18:49,731 --> 01:18:52,067 and with my wife, and I would let them down. 1524 01:18:52,067 --> 01:18:55,703 But if they weren't around here, I don't know if I would be safe. 1525 01:18:55,703 --> 01:18:58,477 I don't know if my recovery would be safe. 1526 01:19:00,277 --> 01:19:07,319 ♪ ("HURRICANES AND HAND GRENADES" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 1527 01:19:10,415 --> 01:19:12,391 ♪ I got a glass of wine ♪ 1528 01:19:14,092 --> 01:19:16,095 ♪ I got a cigarette ♪ 1529 01:19:17,729 --> 01:19:20,432 ♪ I should be feeling fine ♪ 1530 01:19:21,298 --> 01:19:24,203 ♪ But I ain't feeling Nothing yet ♪ 1531 01:19:25,169 --> 01:19:29,237 ♪ She's leading The second line ♪ 1532 01:19:29,237 --> 01:19:34,777 ♪ Feel like I'm in front of it And I guess I am tonight ♪ 1533 01:19:34,777 --> 01:19:35,911 ♪ (SONG FADES) ♪ 1534 01:19:35,911 --> 01:19:38,247 Typical day for the old Jason. 1535 01:19:38,247 --> 01:19:41,153 Wake up, it's probably already past noon. 1536 01:19:42,386 --> 01:19:43,418 Get in the van. 1537 01:19:43,418 --> 01:19:46,088 There's probably some bottles of liquor on the floor 1538 01:19:46,088 --> 01:19:48,590 of the van to tide you over, 1539 01:19:48,590 --> 01:19:51,192 unload the gear, drink some more. 1540 01:19:51,192 --> 01:19:53,562 Play a show while drinking some more. 1541 01:19:53,562 --> 01:19:57,099 - ♪ (UPBEAT ROCK MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 1542 01:19:57,099 --> 01:19:59,868 Finish the show, drink some more, 1543 01:19:59,868 --> 01:20:02,004 and then hit repeat. 1544 01:20:02,004 --> 01:20:03,671 There was usually never a day 1545 01:20:03,671 --> 01:20:06,408 filled with great decisions. 1546 01:20:06,408 --> 01:20:08,978 I mean, the day-to-day was pretty rough. 1547 01:20:08,978 --> 01:20:10,445 Right before Jason went sober, 1548 01:20:10,445 --> 01:20:14,217 I was actually looking online for internet security courses. 1549 01:20:16,018 --> 01:20:20,222 Just as a fallback in case everything self-destructed. 1550 01:20:20,222 --> 01:20:24,026 Honestly, I didn't consider getting sober 1551 01:20:24,026 --> 01:20:25,961 until I met Amanda. 1552 01:20:25,961 --> 01:20:27,129 You know, I thought 1553 01:20:27,129 --> 01:20:30,799 she's not gonna... stick around for this. 1554 01:20:30,799 --> 01:20:32,233 You know, at first, when you're hanging out, 1555 01:20:32,233 --> 01:20:35,203 you think that a person, you see 'em off and on, 1556 01:20:35,203 --> 01:20:36,739 they're just having fun that night 1557 01:20:36,739 --> 01:20:37,906 or for a couple of nights, 1558 01:20:37,906 --> 01:20:39,374 and it just got progressively worse and worse, 1559 01:20:39,374 --> 01:20:43,482 and, um, you start noticing patterns, like about... 1560 01:20:44,315 --> 01:20:46,281 he never woke up in the morning. 1561 01:20:46,281 --> 01:20:50,185 It was always in the afternoon. But he always woke up drinking. 1562 01:20:50,185 --> 01:20:52,988 And there's a lot of things that go along with that 1563 01:20:52,988 --> 01:20:55,961 that are not fun to be around, but... 1564 01:20:56,961 --> 01:20:58,226 One night, I got real drunk, 1565 01:20:58,226 --> 01:21:00,996 and I said, "I need help to quit drinking 1566 01:21:00,996 --> 01:21:02,965 and I don't think I can do it on my own." 1567 01:21:02,965 --> 01:21:06,401 And... Amanda said, "Well, you know, 1568 01:21:06,401 --> 01:21:09,237 if you're sure about that, you know, 1569 01:21:09,237 --> 01:21:10,939 I'm gonna have to do some things, 1570 01:21:10,939 --> 01:21:12,573 and you're not gonna like 'em." 1571 01:21:12,573 --> 01:21:17,145 I really think that somebody probably would've helped 1572 01:21:17,145 --> 01:21:19,014 or tried to help if it hadn't been me. 1573 01:21:19,014 --> 01:21:20,315 Or I hope somebody would. 1574 01:21:20,315 --> 01:21:23,451 So it started with a text from her that it was time, 1575 01:21:23,451 --> 01:21:25,648 and I said, "Well, I need to hear that from him." 1576 01:21:25,648 --> 01:21:27,723 And he texted me that "I think it's time 1577 01:21:27,723 --> 01:21:29,825 I do something about my drinking. 1578 01:21:29,825 --> 01:21:31,260 I want to be present 1579 01:21:31,260 --> 01:21:32,828 while all this good stuff is happening." 1580 01:21:32,828 --> 01:21:35,064 Not like in the Drive-By Truckers days. 1581 01:21:35,064 --> 01:21:36,998 So Traci went to the rehab folks, 1582 01:21:36,998 --> 01:21:40,703 and earliest they could get me in was Monday. 1583 01:21:40,703 --> 01:21:41,870 The Saturday night, 1584 01:21:41,870 --> 01:21:43,972 we were playing a private show in Virginia. 1585 01:21:43,972 --> 01:21:46,075 It was his last hurrah. 1586 01:21:46,075 --> 01:21:47,843 And I don't think I've ever told him this 1587 01:21:47,843 --> 01:21:50,912 that I have the audio and the DVD of that. 1588 01:21:50,912 --> 01:21:53,048 And it's just something I've always tucked away 1589 01:21:53,048 --> 01:21:54,282 just in case he ever slipped. 1590 01:21:54,282 --> 01:21:58,253 ♪ ("ALABAMA PINES" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 1591 01:21:58,253 --> 01:22:02,286 ♪ Well, I moved into this room If you could call it that ♪ 1592 01:22:02,286 --> 01:22:03,358 ♪ A week ago ♪ 1593 01:22:03,358 --> 01:22:06,528 ♪ I never do What I'm supposed to do ♪ 1594 01:22:06,528 --> 01:22:10,598 ♪ Hardly even know My name anymore ♪ 1595 01:22:10,598 --> 01:22:15,374 ♪ When no one calls it out It kind of vanishes away ♪ 1596 01:22:18,042 --> 01:22:20,309 ♪ And I can't get To sleep at night ♪ 1597 01:22:20,309 --> 01:22:22,878 ♪ The parking lot's So loud and bright ♪ 1598 01:22:22,878 --> 01:22:26,115 ♪ The AC hasn't worked In 20 years ♪ 1599 01:22:26,115 --> 01:22:30,119 ♪ Probably never made A single person cold ♪ 1600 01:22:30,119 --> 01:22:32,253 ♪ But I can't say The same for me ♪ 1601 01:22:32,253 --> 01:22:36,052 ♪ I've done it many times ♪ 1602 01:22:36,052 --> 01:22:43,235 ♪ Somebody take me home Through those Alabama pines ♪ 1603 01:22:44,835 --> 01:22:47,903 They had a bunch of moonshine from Fredericksburg. 1604 01:22:47,903 --> 01:22:49,839 The moonshine capital of the world. 1605 01:22:49,839 --> 01:22:51,173 The place where they've always made 1606 01:22:51,173 --> 01:22:53,041 the best moonshine. So I drank a ton of that. 1607 01:22:53,041 --> 01:22:56,211 And I think I took some MDMA at some point. 1608 01:22:56,211 --> 01:22:58,146 And tried to get a tattoo, 1609 01:22:58,146 --> 01:22:59,781 and they wouldn't give me a tattoo 1610 01:22:59,781 --> 01:23:04,453 'cause I was too fucked up. Everybody was pissed at me 1611 01:23:04,453 --> 01:23:07,255 'cause I had gotten so drunk and made such an ass of myself. 1612 01:23:07,255 --> 01:23:09,357 Dude, you're wasted. 1613 01:23:09,357 --> 01:23:11,993 Man, this is a party. 1614 01:23:11,993 --> 01:23:13,061 It was the first time 1615 01:23:13,061 --> 01:23:14,229 I'd ever heard him drunk on stage. 1616 01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:20,069 Hey, Derry deBorja, everybody! Yeah! Whoo! Duh! 1617 01:23:20,069 --> 01:23:21,469 Play a song! And then, I guess 1618 01:23:21,469 --> 01:23:23,939 it was really after the show that things got really, 1619 01:23:23,939 --> 01:23:25,107 really ugly. 1620 01:23:25,107 --> 01:23:27,208 Amanda and I got into an argument, 1621 01:23:27,208 --> 01:23:31,581 and, you know, I think I got kind of scary to her. 1622 01:23:31,581 --> 01:23:32,581 That was sort of a, like, 1623 01:23:32,581 --> 01:23:35,817 kind of not the best night for him. So... 1624 01:23:35,817 --> 01:23:38,987 I don't think she was going to stay with me 1625 01:23:38,987 --> 01:23:41,056 at that point. I think she was like, "Okay, 1626 01:23:41,056 --> 01:23:42,557 I want you to get sober. I'll help you. 1627 01:23:42,557 --> 01:23:45,294 I'll be your friend. But I don't think 1628 01:23:45,294 --> 01:23:48,964 I can be in a relationship with you, you know?" 1629 01:23:48,964 --> 01:23:51,199 So I thought my relationship was done. 1630 01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:54,406 So when I was in rehab, I just wrote letters to her, 1631 01:23:54,972 --> 01:23:56,005 um, 1632 01:23:56,005 --> 01:23:59,307 the whole time, and it worked. I can write a letter. 1633 01:23:59,307 --> 01:24:01,676 ♪ ("COVER ME UP" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 1634 01:24:01,676 --> 01:24:06,715 ♪ A heart on the run Keeps a hand on a gun ♪ 1635 01:24:06,715 --> 01:24:09,221 ♪ It can't trust anyone ♪ 1636 01:24:12,823 --> 01:24:17,760 ♪ I was so sure What I needed was more ♪ 1637 01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:20,699 ♪ Tried to shoot out the sun ♪ 1638 01:24:23,567 --> 01:24:28,871 ♪ The days when we raged We flew off the page ♪ 1639 01:24:28,871 --> 01:24:31,610 ♪ Such damage was done ♪ 1640 01:24:34,712 --> 01:24:39,281 ♪ But I made it through 'Cause somebody knew ♪ 1641 01:24:39,281 --> 01:24:43,418 ♪ I was meant for someone... ♪ 1642 01:24:43,418 --> 01:24:46,021 That was fucked up in a lot of different ways, 1643 01:24:46,021 --> 01:24:48,023 but I was lucky enough to realize 1644 01:24:48,023 --> 01:24:51,559 that if I can just quit drinking, 1645 01:24:51,559 --> 01:24:54,533 then I might have everything I ever wanted. 1646 01:24:55,833 --> 01:24:57,533 It's not hard to commit to somebody, 1647 01:24:57,533 --> 01:24:58,599 I don't think. 1648 01:24:58,599 --> 01:25:02,574 I mean... if you're in love with him. 1649 01:25:04,809 --> 01:25:07,109 He proposed, and I said yes. 1650 01:25:07,109 --> 01:25:09,111 But I wanted him to be sober at least a year 1651 01:25:09,111 --> 01:25:10,412 before I continued on. 1652 01:25:10,412 --> 01:25:12,847 And it's no guarantee. Like, I can trust him, 1653 01:25:12,847 --> 01:25:16,755 but I can't trust the addiction at all, you know? 1654 01:25:19,723 --> 01:25:25,193 ♪ Cover me up And know you're enough ♪ 1655 01:25:25,193 --> 01:25:27,699 ♪ To use me for good... ♪ 1656 01:25:31,335 --> 01:25:33,335 There's a couple of parts in "Cover Me Up" 1657 01:25:33,335 --> 01:25:36,608 I still don't like to hear, but I listen to it anyway. 1658 01:25:38,476 --> 01:25:41,976 Now he knows that I liked him even at his worst. 1659 01:25:41,976 --> 01:25:47,816 ♪ Put your faith to the test When I tore off your dress ♪ 1660 01:25:47,816 --> 01:25:51,290 ♪ In Richmond on high ♪ 1661 01:25:53,825 --> 01:25:56,225 ♪ But I sobered up ♪ 1662 01:25:56,225 --> 01:26:02,464 ♪ I swore off that stuff Forever this time... ♪ 1663 01:26:02,464 --> 01:26:07,536 We had a moment recently where we came to the conclusion, 1664 01:26:07,536 --> 01:26:10,472 through having a couple of really hard conversations, 1665 01:26:10,472 --> 01:26:12,975 that part of our problems still stem 1666 01:26:12,975 --> 01:26:16,878 from unresolved issues from when we first got together. 1667 01:26:16,878 --> 01:26:20,282 And things that happened when I was still drinking. 1668 01:26:20,282 --> 01:26:23,719 I didn't understand that all those years ago, 1669 01:26:23,719 --> 01:26:26,221 there were times when she felt trapped 1670 01:26:26,221 --> 01:26:28,556 and she felt in danger. 1671 01:26:28,556 --> 01:26:32,260 ♪ So, girl Hang your dress up to dry ♪ 1672 01:26:32,260 --> 01:26:35,530 ♪ We ain't leaving This room... ♪ 1673 01:26:35,530 --> 01:26:37,199 I remember my perspective. 1674 01:26:37,199 --> 01:26:39,467 I knew that I wasn't gonna hurt anybody. 1675 01:26:39,467 --> 01:26:42,307 But my perspective wasn't the only one. 1676 01:26:42,940 --> 01:26:44,305 In the last few months, 1677 01:26:44,305 --> 01:26:45,507 I've been doing a lot of thinking 1678 01:26:45,507 --> 01:26:47,042 about what did the room look like 1679 01:26:47,042 --> 01:26:48,477 from the other corners, you know? 1680 01:26:48,477 --> 01:26:50,746 What did it look like from the people 1681 01:26:50,746 --> 01:26:52,014 who were afraid of me 1682 01:26:52,014 --> 01:26:54,950 and didn't know that ultimately, 1683 01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:57,656 uh, it was all gonna be okay? 1684 01:27:00,958 --> 01:27:03,325 ♪ Cover me up ♪ 1685 01:27:03,325 --> 01:27:08,600 ♪ And know you're enough To use me for good... ♪ 1686 01:27:10,668 --> 01:27:14,802 I had the realization of what I had put on her. 1687 01:27:14,802 --> 01:27:17,773 You know, she was a catalyst for me getting sober 1688 01:27:17,773 --> 01:27:19,274 and cleaning my life up. 1689 01:27:19,274 --> 01:27:22,378 I had taken all of this burden of me 1690 01:27:22,378 --> 01:27:24,579 becoming what I am now 1691 01:27:24,579 --> 01:27:26,714 and I had put it on her shoulders. 1692 01:27:26,714 --> 01:27:30,686 And then, what started off as a little tiny relationship 1693 01:27:30,686 --> 01:27:33,188 turned into the record Southeastern, 1694 01:27:33,188 --> 01:27:36,491 and it was not just ours anymore. 1695 01:27:36,491 --> 01:27:39,761 ♪ Girl, leave your boots By the bed ♪ 1696 01:27:39,761 --> 01:27:43,732 ♪ We ain't leaving This room... ♪ 1697 01:27:43,732 --> 01:27:45,667 There were people hearing these songs, 1698 01:27:45,667 --> 01:27:47,602 and when they would hear "Cover Me Up," 1699 01:27:47,602 --> 01:27:49,404 she would go back to the place 1700 01:27:49,404 --> 01:27:51,240 where she was afraid of me. 1701 01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,475 And nobody would understand that. 1702 01:27:53,475 --> 01:27:54,942 And then the part that hurt her the worst 1703 01:27:54,942 --> 01:27:57,845 is that I didn't understand it because I wasn't willing 1704 01:27:57,845 --> 01:28:00,448 to go back and actually look at what really happened. 1705 01:28:00,448 --> 01:28:02,150 It's a lot to feel like you're the only person 1706 01:28:02,150 --> 01:28:04,452 - in the world that... - That knows... 1707 01:28:04,452 --> 01:28:06,254 - Yeah. - ...what really happened. 1708 01:28:06,254 --> 01:28:08,791 And I should've known the whole time. 1709 01:28:08,791 --> 01:28:11,360 ♪ So cover me up ♪ 1710 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:16,936 ♪ And know you're enough To use me for good ♪ 1711 01:28:20,337 --> 01:28:22,637 ♪ Cover me up ♪ 1712 01:28:22,637 --> 01:28:28,347 ♪ And know you're enough To use me for good ♪ 1713 01:28:29,947 --> 01:28:31,179 ♪ (SONG FADES) ♪ 1714 01:28:31,179 --> 01:28:35,650 When Jason went sober, he came out of that experience, 1715 01:28:35,650 --> 01:28:42,719 I think, a more caring, kinder, more empathetic individual. 1716 01:28:43,155 --> 01:28:44,993 I fought against my own ability 1717 01:28:44,993 --> 01:28:48,496 to get better. And when I stopped doing that, 1718 01:28:48,496 --> 01:28:50,665 all of a sudden, I was like, "Okay, you're not so bad. 1719 01:28:50,665 --> 01:28:52,633 You're kind of an asshole, but we'll figure that out." 1720 01:28:52,633 --> 01:28:55,771 And then we sat there together, me and myself, 1721 01:28:55,771 --> 01:28:59,774 and wrote an album that changed my life. 1722 01:28:59,774 --> 01:29:05,817 ♪ ("MAYBE IT'S TIME" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 1723 01:29:16,027 --> 01:29:19,864 ♪ Maybe it's time To let the old ways die ♪ 1724 01:29:22,499 --> 01:29:26,005 ♪ Maybe it's time To let the old ways die ♪ 1725 01:29:28,639 --> 01:29:31,273 ♪ It takes a lot To change a man ♪ 1726 01:29:31,273 --> 01:29:34,643 ♪ Hell, it takes a lot to try ♪ 1727 01:29:34,643 --> 01:29:38,483 ♪ Maybe it's time To let the old ways die ♪ 1728 01:29:40,884 --> 01:29:44,985 ♪ Nobody knows What waits for the dead... ♪ 1729 01:29:44,985 --> 01:29:47,689 This pandemic has been a challenge for somebody 1730 01:29:47,689 --> 01:29:50,058 who's used to being in control. 1731 01:29:50,058 --> 01:29:52,989 It's really saved my ass to be able to sit down 1732 01:29:52,989 --> 01:29:55,597 and play the guitar for hours. 1733 01:29:55,597 --> 01:29:57,460 I've kind of reverted back to when I was 1734 01:29:57,460 --> 01:30:01,136 an unhip high schooler, and I just spent all my time 1735 01:30:01,136 --> 01:30:03,934 in my room playing guitar because that's the only thing 1736 01:30:03,934 --> 01:30:05,307 that really made me happy. 1737 01:30:05,307 --> 01:30:08,210 ♪ And I'm glad I can't go back ♪ 1738 01:30:08,210 --> 01:30:10,182 ♪ To where I came from ♪ 1739 01:30:11,948 --> 01:30:16,084 ♪ I'm glad those days Are gone, gone for good... ♪ 1740 01:30:16,084 --> 01:30:17,456 Thank you. 1741 01:30:18,489 --> 01:30:21,823 ♪ But if I could take spirits From my past ♪ 1742 01:30:21,823 --> 01:30:25,597 ♪ And bring them here You know I would ♪ 1743 01:30:26,998 --> 01:30:28,800 ♪ You know I would ♪ 1744 01:30:30,734 --> 01:30:34,606 ♪ But nobody speaks To God these days ♪ 1745 01:30:37,141 --> 01:30:39,341 ♪ Nobody speaks To God these days... ♪ 1746 01:30:39,341 --> 01:30:43,339 The chickens have lain their eggs beneath the coop. 1747 01:30:43,339 --> 01:30:46,147 ♪ I'd like to think He's looking down ♪ 1748 01:30:46,147 --> 01:30:49,118 ♪ And laughing at our ways ♪ 1749 01:30:49,118 --> 01:30:53,188 ♪ But nobody speaks To God these days... ♪ 1750 01:30:53,188 --> 01:30:55,190 Mommy, I got you a present. 1751 01:30:55,190 --> 01:30:59,127 ♪ And when I was a child They tried to fool me... ♪ 1752 01:30:59,127 --> 01:31:00,460 Thank you. 1753 01:31:01,565 --> 01:31:04,099 ♪ Said the worldly man Was doomed ♪ 1754 01:31:04,099 --> 01:31:05,735 ♪ And hell was real... ♪ 1755 01:31:05,735 --> 01:31:08,303 Some days I found beautiful dead moths. 1756 01:31:08,303 --> 01:31:10,105 ♪ Well, I've seen hell In Reno ♪ 1757 01:31:10,105 --> 01:31:15,847 ♪ And this world's just One big old Catherine wheel ♪ 1758 01:31:16,815 --> 01:31:18,747 ♪ Spinning still... ♪ 1759 01:31:18,747 --> 01:31:20,582 He's made a picnic. 1760 01:31:20,582 --> 01:31:24,484 ♪ Maybe it's time To let the old ways die ♪ 1761 01:31:27,058 --> 01:31:30,459 ♪ Maybe it's time To let the old ways die... ♪ 1762 01:31:30,459 --> 01:31:33,494 Oh, some garden gloves. 1763 01:31:33,494 --> 01:31:35,964 ♪ It takes a lot To change your plans ♪ 1764 01:31:35,964 --> 01:31:39,534 ♪ And a train To change your mind ♪ 1765 01:31:39,534 --> 01:31:43,075 ♪ Maybe it's time To let the old ways die... ♪ 1766 01:31:44,008 --> 01:31:45,573 Look at that stinky bastard. 1767 01:31:45,573 --> 01:31:47,742 ♪ Maybe it's time To let the old ways die... ♪ 1768 01:31:47,742 --> 01:31:50,815 Quarantine, day 194. 1769 01:31:51,882 --> 01:31:55,720 ♪ Maybe it's time To let the old ways die ♪ 1770 01:31:56,453 --> 01:31:58,220 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 1771 01:31:58,220 --> 01:31:59,989 I smell alcohol. 1772 01:31:59,989 --> 01:32:02,290 That's because we just put some in your ears. 1773 01:32:02,290 --> 01:32:04,459 And I can smell with my ears? 1774 01:32:04,459 --> 01:32:05,894 - You can use your ears 1775 01:32:05,894 --> 01:32:08,063 - to help you smell? - I think your ears... 1776 01:32:08,063 --> 01:32:10,198 That's my daughter. 1777 01:32:10,198 --> 01:32:12,768 Don't put your fingers in your ears. Don't do that. 1778 01:32:12,768 --> 01:32:15,037 I like to smell the alcohol. 1779 01:32:15,037 --> 01:32:16,972 That's my child, there. 1780 01:32:16,972 --> 01:32:19,274 "Well, do you love me the most with my big, 1781 01:32:19,274 --> 01:32:22,238 big eyes that will watch you grow wise, wise, wise?" 1782 01:32:22,238 --> 01:32:24,113 - There's three-- -"It's me, Ollie. 1783 01:32:24,113 --> 01:32:25,581 Do you love me the most?" 1784 01:32:25,581 --> 01:32:27,883 - Do you? - There's-- 1785 01:32:27,883 --> 01:32:30,185 - There's three-- - Do you? Do you love me the most? 1786 01:32:30,185 --> 01:32:31,586 - Do you? - Stop-- 1787 01:32:31,586 --> 01:32:36,859 - Hoo. Hoo. - Stop interrupting me. 1788 01:32:36,859 --> 01:32:38,961 - What? - Stop interrupting me. 1789 01:32:38,961 --> 01:32:40,128 - Who? - You. 1790 01:32:40,128 --> 01:32:45,366 - Who-oo? - You. 1791 01:32:45,366 --> 01:32:47,102 Hey, Mercy, knock, knock? 1792 01:32:47,102 --> 01:32:49,104 - Who's there? Interrupting mom. 1793 01:32:49,104 --> 01:32:50,639 - Interrupting mom-- - Hello! 1794 01:32:54,342 --> 01:32:57,780 In quarantine times, there are breakthrough couples 1795 01:32:57,780 --> 01:33:00,048 and breakup couples, I've decided. 1796 01:33:00,048 --> 01:33:03,918 A lot of people we know are getting divorced. 1797 01:33:03,918 --> 01:33:09,385 And I understand that totally. But I think for me and Amanda, 1798 01:33:09,385 --> 01:33:11,693 I think we're having breakthroughs. 1799 01:33:11,693 --> 01:33:14,029 I feel like we're getting to know each other better, 1800 01:33:14,029 --> 01:33:18,466 I think. And, like, today, everything's great, you know? 1801 01:33:18,466 --> 01:33:22,872 Yesterday, everything was great. We'll see what happens tomorrow. 1802 01:33:22,872 --> 01:33:24,273 ♪ ("RIVER" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 1803 01:33:24,273 --> 01:33:28,876 ♪ The river is my savior 'Cause she used to be a cloud ♪ 1804 01:33:28,876 --> 01:33:34,083 ♪ She's happy just to lay there When she used to be so proud ♪ 1805 01:33:34,083 --> 01:33:39,053 ♪ And even when she dries up A thousand years from now ♪ 1806 01:33:39,053 --> 01:33:44,696 ♪ I'll lay myself beside her And call her name out loud... ♪ 1807 01:33:46,330 --> 01:33:50,298 So I see COVID-19 as something that is forcing me 1808 01:33:50,298 --> 01:33:52,433 to adapt and to grow. 1809 01:33:52,433 --> 01:33:55,905 I'm bound and determined to make a positive out of this. 1810 01:33:55,905 --> 01:33:57,272 And the ultimate positive 1811 01:33:57,272 --> 01:33:59,941 is to let it connect me with other people more. 1812 01:33:59,941 --> 01:34:04,812 ♪ But now I'm tired And a little bit confused ♪ 1813 01:34:04,812 --> 01:34:10,152 ♪ Regarding what I meant to do And what I did... ♪ 1814 01:34:10,152 --> 01:34:12,420 To be back in the room with everybody else 1815 01:34:12,420 --> 01:34:15,656 will make my heart explode. So I know I'll be in tears. 1816 01:34:15,656 --> 01:34:17,826 I-- I feel like we will all be in tears 1817 01:34:17,826 --> 01:34:21,429 'cause you don't feel whole right now. 1818 01:34:21,429 --> 01:34:23,899 I'd be happy just to play on the back porch 1819 01:34:23,899 --> 01:34:25,967 for the birds if it was me 1820 01:34:25,967 --> 01:34:27,969 and my whole band playing together 1821 01:34:27,969 --> 01:34:29,942 at the same time. I'd be thrilled. 1822 01:34:32,976 --> 01:34:37,840 ♪ The river is my savior She's running to the sea ♪ 1823 01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:42,851 ♪ And to reach her destination Is to simply cease to be ♪ 1824 01:34:42,851 --> 01:34:44,987 ♪ And running 'Til you're nothing ♪ 1825 01:34:44,987 --> 01:34:47,883 ♪ Sounds a lot like being free ♪ 1826 01:34:47,883 --> 01:34:53,765 ♪ So I'll lay myself inside her And I'll let her carry me... ♪ 1827 01:34:58,236 --> 01:35:01,570 I mean, there's this moment right before we go on stage 1828 01:35:01,570 --> 01:35:03,739 where we're all gathered in the wing, 1829 01:35:03,739 --> 01:35:05,640 Jason gives a thumbs up to everybody 1830 01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,076 with a raised eyebrow to make sure, 1831 01:35:08,076 --> 01:35:10,379 you know, "Everybody good? Everybody good?" 1832 01:35:10,379 --> 01:35:13,381 And I miss that. 1833 01:35:13,381 --> 01:35:14,917 I can't wait to do that again. 1834 01:35:14,917 --> 01:35:17,286 I can't wait to be in that huddle. 1835 01:35:17,286 --> 01:35:18,457 See y'all tomorrow. 1836 01:35:22,126 --> 01:35:24,196 - ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 1837 01:35:24,762 --> 01:35:25,928 There's only one story. 1838 01:35:25,928 --> 01:35:28,130 They say three in your creative writing classes. 1839 01:35:28,130 --> 01:35:30,493 But there's only one really, and that's, 1840 01:35:30,493 --> 01:35:32,901 "Will you listen to what my life is like? 1841 01:35:32,901 --> 01:35:35,304 You know? And let's compare." 1842 01:35:35,304 --> 01:35:39,478 ♪ ("IF WE WERE VAMPIRES" BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪ 1843 01:35:54,491 --> 01:35:59,655 ♪ It's not the long flowing Dress that you're in ♪ 1844 01:35:59,655 --> 01:36:04,499 ♪ Or the light coming Off of your skin ♪ 1845 01:36:04,499 --> 01:36:09,871 ♪ The fragile heart You protected for so long ♪ 1846 01:36:09,871 --> 01:36:14,409 ♪ Or the mercy in your sense Of right and wrong ♪ 1847 01:36:14,409 --> 01:36:19,381 ♪ It's not your hands Searching slow in the dark ♪ 1848 01:36:19,381 --> 01:36:24,219 ♪ Or your nails Leaving love's watermark ♪ 1849 01:36:24,219 --> 01:36:29,458 ♪ It's not the way You talk me off the roof ♪ 1850 01:36:29,458 --> 01:36:34,830 ♪ Your questions Like directions to the truth ♪ 1851 01:36:34,830 --> 01:36:38,537 ♪ It's knowing That this can't go on forever ♪ 1852 01:36:39,904 --> 01:36:41,369 ♪ Likely one of us ♪ 1853 01:36:41,369 --> 01:36:44,873 ♪ Will have To spend some days alone ♪ 1854 01:36:44,873 --> 01:36:48,276 ♪ Maybe we'll get Forty years together ♪ 1855 01:36:48,276 --> 01:36:54,149 ♪ But one day I'll be gone Or one day you'll be gone ♪ 1856 01:36:54,149 --> 01:36:59,021 ♪ If we were vampires And death was a joke ♪ 1857 01:36:59,021 --> 01:37:04,492 ♪ We'd go out On the sidewalk and smoke ♪ 1858 01:37:04,492 --> 01:37:09,364 ♪ And laugh at all the lovers And their plans ♪ 1859 01:37:09,364 --> 01:37:14,036 ♪ I wouldn't feel the need To hold your hand ♪ 1860 01:37:14,036 --> 01:37:19,041 ♪ Maybe time running out Is a gift ♪ 1861 01:37:19,041 --> 01:37:24,446 ♪ I'll work hard 'Til the end of my shift ♪ 1862 01:37:24,446 --> 01:37:29,551 ♪ And give you Every second I can find ♪ 1863 01:37:29,551 --> 01:37:34,489 ♪ And hope it isn't me Who's left behind ♪ 1864 01:37:34,489 --> 01:37:38,363 ♪ It's knowing That this can't go on forever ♪ 1865 01:37:39,831 --> 01:37:41,296 ♪ Likely one of us ♪ 1866 01:37:41,296 --> 01:37:44,833 ♪ Will have to spend Some days alone ♪ 1867 01:37:44,833 --> 01:37:48,236 ♪ Maybe we'll get Forty years together ♪ 1868 01:37:48,236 --> 01:37:53,913 ♪ But one day I'll be gone One day you'll be gone ♪ 1869 01:38:01,185 --> 01:38:03,222 ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪ 143854

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