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We're serving a search warrant. 8 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,800 [man over comm] 430, can you copy? 9 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:47,080 [sheriff 2] Now we're through the gate. 10 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:50,280 The subject, I repeat, the subject is not on property. 11 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,480 Do you copy? 12 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,080 [sheriff 1] Here's the bridge we gotta go over. 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,880 And the house is right there. 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,520 [tense music continues] 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,400 [sheriff 1] You guys see a uniform? 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,760 - [man 1] Hi. - [sheriff 1] How are you doing? 17 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,360 Sheriff's Department. We have a search warrant. 18 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,520 [tense music continues] 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:11,840 [man 2 on TV] This is a Fox News alert. 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,360 Police right now 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,120 searching Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch in California… 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,960 [woman 2] We are told this is part of an ongoing investigation. 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,640 [man 3] …alleging criminal misconduct on the part of Michael Jackson. 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,520 Come this way. 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,960 [indistinct police radio chatter] 26 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:34,600 - [sheriff 2] Copy. - [sheriff 1] Okay. 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,760 And this is Mr. Jackson's main area? 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,600 Sheriff's Department. 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,240 [sheriff 2] Yeah, go ahead. 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,560 [sheriff 1] Whose office is this? 31 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:48,960 [woman 1] This is his office. 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,400 [sheriff 1] This is Michael's? 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:51,880 [woman 1] Mr. Jackson's office. 34 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,280 [sheriff 2] Are there any secret rooms? 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,000 - [woman 1] Secret rooms? - [sheriff 2] Yeah. 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,360 Behind a wall or something like that? 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,240 - [woman 1] Just the bathroom. - [man 1] Only behind doors. 38 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,720 [sheriff 2] No hidden doors or anything? 39 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:04,800 [woman 1] No. 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,080 [tense, pensive music playing] 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,400 [man 4] The phone rings, and he says, 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,000 "Brian, the police are raiding Neverland Ranch." 43 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,400 {\an8}I go, "What are they doing there, Mr. Jackson?" 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,480 {\an8}"I don't know. I don't know." 45 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,680 He says, "Get your leads. Find out." 46 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:26,880 Wow. 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,320 Okay. 48 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,360 [sheriff 2] There could be something in here. 49 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,160 [sheriff 1] Somebody needs to go through it. 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,440 [sheriff 2] Hey, Jeff? We have an upstairs. 51 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,160 [Brian] The search warrant indicates that there is an accusation 52 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,360 by a 12-year-old boy who says that he was molested. 53 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,960 It appears that they think there's some kind of forensic evidence 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:49,640 which would be available to them, 55 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,320 which would include DNA, hair samples, blood samples. 56 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,520 We don't know. 57 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,320 We don't know the identity of the child. 58 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,000 We don't know the specifics of the accusations. 59 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,920 [man 5] When you're investigating an allegation of child sexual abuse, 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,120 {\an8}you rarely have witnesses to it. 61 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,160 We're looking for anything that we could find 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,160 that tell us that this child is giving us accurate information. 63 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,520 [crowd clamoring] 64 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,360 [man 6] He's the most famous man in the world, 65 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,960 who's being accused of the most heinous crime in the world. 66 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,080 [man 7] An arrest warrant for Mr. Jackson has been issued 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,000 on multiple counts of child molestation. 68 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,240 [woman 3] Finally, we're going to get some answers. 69 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Is he guilty, or is he not guilty? 70 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,600 [ominous music playing] 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,960 Hm. Um… 72 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:50,680 {\an8}I met Michael Jackson in, uh, 1970. 73 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,120 He was 12. I was 14. 74 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,440 - And we became friends. - [pensive music playing] 75 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,400 - I told you that I love Michael. - Uh-huh. 76 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,480 You love Michael. 77 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,280 [Randy] As a musician, you can see the genius of Michael Jackson. 78 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,320 [man 1] On stage since the age of five… 79 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,000 [woman] Michael Jackson is a superstar. 80 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,000 [Reagan] …for the outstanding example you have set for the youth of America… 81 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,320 [man 2] The album is still number one after 57 weeks. 82 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,120 [Randy] Thriller is still, to this day, the biggest-selling record of all time. 83 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,200 [man 3] His album Thriller, the winner of seven Grammy Awards, 84 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:26,120 was still selling a million copies a year 15 years after its release. 85 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,000 [girls screaming] 86 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,200 [Randy] Without exaggeration, 87 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:33,400 I think Michael was the most famous person in the world. 88 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,880 All the amazing talent. 89 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,960 [crowd screaming] 90 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,160 But then, you know, you began to see the changes in him. 91 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,160 [woman] I mean, let's face it, he's a little weird. 92 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,000 You know? He's just a little weird. 93 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,160 [unsettling music playing] 94 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,560 [Randy] The media was terrible to Michael Jackson. 95 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,080 With all the Wacko Jacko stuff, which was horrible. 96 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,200 {\an8}"What's with the hyperbaric chamber?" 97 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:02,000 "What's with the plastic surgery?" 98 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,360 {\an8}And Michael, he felt like he was lonely and isolated. 99 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,560 But he was determined to live his life his way. 100 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,000 Michael became friends with all these kids. 101 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,760 You know, he didn't think it was strange, but other people did. 102 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,240 {\an8}A 13-year-old boy alleges a sexual relationship with Michael Jackson. 103 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,360 [unsettling music continues] 104 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,600 The idea of Michael Jackson being a pedophile was, like, mind-blowing. 105 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,200 It was the most far-fetched, ridiculous thing you could have imagined. 106 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,920 The pop star angrily rejected accusations he molested a young boy, 107 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,280 and lashed out at police and the media. 108 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,000 {\an8}There have been many disgusting statements made recently 109 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,480 {\an8}concerning allegations of improper conduct on my part. 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,960 {\an8}These statements about me are totally false. 111 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,480 [Randy] After all these terrible allegations about Michael, 112 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,400 he had a hard time not just artistically, but personally too. 113 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,680 I saw the hell that it had inflicted on him. 114 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,480 He was so traumatized by that time. 115 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:02,800 He needed, like, a reset, 116 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,680 where he could actually tackle some of these issues 117 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,000 and his image in the public eye. 118 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,920 - [music fades] - [birds singing and chirping] 119 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,920 [pensive music playing] 120 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,720 [man] The first time I met Michael, in London, June 2002… 121 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,360 his face is very heavily made up. 122 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,680 {\an8}His hair's kind of messy. 123 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,080 {\an8}He looks as though he hadn't slept for very long. 124 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,160 [speaking indistinctly] 125 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:41,720 And it had been some years since he was the King of Pop. 126 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,920 And yet, there's nobody comparable 127 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,960 to the size and magnitude of a Michael Jackson. 128 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,440 And the other thing that obviously caused an enormous amount of interest 129 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,400 were the scandals that surrounded him 130 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,120 and allegations of child sexual abuse some years previously. 131 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,000 I said, "I'd love to make a film with you if you were interested." 132 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,880 He said, "Okay, come and see me in California." 133 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,240 [Randy] Talking about it with Michael, 134 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,680 I came to understand the reason Michael was interested in Martin Bashir 135 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,840 was because of his interview with Princess Diana, 136 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,280 who was somebody Michael really kind of idolized. 137 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,720 [speaking indistinctly] 138 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,440 [Randy] He wanted to be portrayed in a more human way 139 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,840 {\an8}by the guy who did it for Princess Diana. 140 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,200 {\an8}But Michael didn't do enough research 141 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,320 because if he had, he would have realized 142 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,600 that the Martin Bashir/Princess Diana interview was kind of a disaster. 143 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,440 {\an8}[Martin] Do you think Mrs. Parker Bowles was a factor 144 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,720 {\an8}in the breakdown of your marriage? 145 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,200 {\an8}Well, there were three of us in this marriage, 146 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,560 {\an8}so it was a bit crowded. [laughs sadly] 147 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,720 {\an8}That was the interview in which she talked about three in a marriage, 148 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,000 and it really set her at odds with the Royal Family, 149 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:57,440 and it… it… it was a public relations disaster. 150 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,280 But Michael didn't follow the story all the way to that. 151 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,200 He just stopped at the point where he wanted to do it 152 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,680 because Princess Diana did it. 153 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,320 Michael trusted Martin Bashir, and then Martin Bashir, 154 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,840 he was looking for a great story. 155 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,920 And Michael sort of handed him this opportunity on a silver platter. 156 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,160 We didn't think that Neverland was going to be the place 157 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,680 where this whole thing unraveled. 158 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,200 [ominous music playing] 159 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,040 [Martin] When I got onto Neverland, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. 160 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,200 It was extraordinary. 161 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,720 There was this Ferris wheel, a massive fairground. 162 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,920 And then I rode towards the zoo, 163 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,080 and I can remember seeing elephants, giraffes, and a bear. 164 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:53,200 I made it clear that I wanted to understand his life. 165 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,600 I thought he had a strange relationship with children. 166 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:01,760 There had been allegations before. There had been settlements. 167 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,720 Do you come out here on your own? 168 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,520 - Yeah. - How often? 169 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,640 - All the time. - You just come out on your own? 170 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,360 - Yes. - What, and go on a ride? 171 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:12,440 Yup. 172 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,760 Usually the carousel. I'll play music. 173 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,720 I love playing classical music on the carousel. 174 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,960 And what about the Ferris wheel? 175 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,920 I like the Ferris wheel. It makes you wish and dream and… 176 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,640 - [Martin] Can we go on it? - [Michael] Sure. 177 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:25,800 [Martin] Let's go on it. 178 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,600 When I met him, 179 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:32,400 he was increasingly isolated as a figure. 180 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,560 [pensive music playing] 181 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,920 There was none of the kind of lawyers and PR and publicists 182 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,760 that normally surrounds a major global superstar. 183 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,320 He was in control. 184 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,560 It was his idea that we film in the dance studio. 185 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,040 I knew I had to ask him certain questions that were going to be quite difficult. 186 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,960 But it was quite intimidating. 187 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,080 When you're dealing with someone like Michael Jackson, 188 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,400 you don't tell him what you're going to film. 189 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,040 But if we behaved appropriately, and if he liked us, 190 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,920 then things would happen. 191 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,040 Use your heel to slide back. 192 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,880 - That is not easy. That is not easy. - Really? 193 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,400 - [laughing] That's not easy. - That's very good, though. 194 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,520 - That's the idea. - You're a very kind man. 195 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,640 [pensive music continues] 196 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,240 I bought these. 197 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,920 - These. Right? - [Martin] You got enough space for it all? 198 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,600 - [Michael] Yeah, I do. - [Martin] You do? 199 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:29,120 [Michael] Yeah, and these we bought. 200 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,000 Okay, let's have a look at these ones. 201 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:31,960 They're beautiful. 202 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,840 [Martin] That's only 275,000 each. 203 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,360 I was getting on well with him. 204 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,320 The filming had gone really well. He seemed to have enjoyed it. 205 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,840 Yet I knew that for this section of the film, 206 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,400 I actually had to put all of that aside 207 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,520 and behave as if I was confronting him for the first time. 208 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,600 [music turns ominous] 209 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,400 I had to ask him about the allegations of child sexual abuse. 210 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,160 I was anxious about what was going to happen 211 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,520 when I put these difficult questions to him. 212 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,880 But as we moved towards the end of the filming, 213 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,400 he said, "I want you to meet somebody." 214 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,120 So I said, "Right, who do you want me to meet?" 215 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,680 He said, "He's a little boy, and we've healed him of cancer." 216 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,200 Michael then gets up and goes out and brings the child in front of us. 217 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,280 {\an8}[unsettling music playing] 218 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,520 {\an8}I think what was going through his mind was, 219 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,640 {\an8}"Here's an example of a child that I've helped." 220 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,160 "That's what I want you to put in your film." 221 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,640 And then Michael volunteers during the conversation 222 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,880 that they sleep in the bed together. 223 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,400 {\an8}Why can't you share your bed? 224 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,320 {\an8}The most loving thing to do is to share your bed with someone. 225 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,760 {\an8}- You know? - [Martin] You think that? 226 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,000 {\an8}Yeah. 227 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,560 [unsettling music continues] 228 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,840 [scoffs] And we're just utter-- 229 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,840 All of us, the production team, are completely gobsmacked. 230 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,720 {\an8}I mean, we can't believe what's going on in front of us. 231 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,560 {\an8}But haven't you got a spare room 232 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,280 {\an8}or a spare house here where he could have stayed? 233 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,400 {\an8}Yeah, but no-- Yes, we have guest units. 234 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,360 {\an8}But whenever kids come here, they always want to stay with me. 235 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,160 He'd actually made a disclosure on camera 236 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,600 about something that had always been queried around him, 237 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:29,160 that people had always suspected 238 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,920 there's something wrong about the way he interacts. 239 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,120 I realized that we had something that was hugely significant, 240 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,800 but I didn't realize the extent of the bombshell until the broadcast. 241 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,400 {\an8}[orchestral music swelling] 242 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,960 Michael Jackson's home, Neverland, 243 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,400 is a 3,000-acre ranch three hours north of Los Angeles. 244 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,280 He thought about it, and then he said, "Yes, come to Neverland." 245 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,760 What do you think people would say if I said, 246 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,960 "Well, I've invited some of my daughter's friends round, 247 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,280 or my son's friends, to sleep in the bed with me tonight?" 248 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,080 - [Michael] That's fine! - [Martin] What would their parents say? 249 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,760 [Michael] If they're wacky, they would say, "You can't." 250 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,000 But when you say "bed," you're thinking sexual. 251 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,440 They make that sexual. It's not sexual. 252 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:19,920 - [Martin] But… - We're going to sleep. 253 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,960 I tuck them in, I put a little, like, music on, 254 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,160 do a little story time, I read a book. 255 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,400 It's very sweet. Put the fireplace on, give them hot milk. 256 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,000 You know, we have little cookies. 257 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,120 - It's very charming, very sweet. - Are you sure? 258 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,800 [Randy] I'm watching Michael on television, 259 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,400 and there's a moment, and if you knew him like I did, 260 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:43,640 you can see him suddenly calculating in his head that this is terrible. 261 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,160 {\an8}He finally said, "Okay, if you love me, let's sleep on the bed." 262 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,240 {\an8}I was like, "Oh man." 263 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,240 {\an8}[Randy] You can see it. 264 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,400 {\an8}You can look at that moment in the Martin Bashir documentary, 265 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,360 and you can actually pin the end of his life, 266 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,040 you know, to that very moment. 267 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,720 [dramatic music playing] 268 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,120 Did you see that documentary on Michael Jackson? 269 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,080 He says he was devastated by it. 270 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,120 Well, he talked about his plastic surgery 271 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,480 and how he still invites little children to sleep in his bed. 272 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,600 {\an8}Of course, I tuned in. 273 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,400 {\an8}My husband and I were watching, rapt. 274 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,160 {\an8}And then I saw that boy sitting on the sofa next to him 275 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,360 {\an8}holding Jackson's hand, 276 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,600 {\an8}putting his head on his shoulder, looking up at him dreamily. 277 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,600 {\an8}And I looked at my husband, and I said, "Uh-oh." 278 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,960 {\an8}I thought, "Here we go again." 279 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,720 It drew me right back in to a story that I had done ten years earlier. 280 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,800 [unsettling music playing] 281 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,400 The boy's name was Jordy Chandler. 282 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,000 It never came to trial. 283 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,640 Michael Jackson settled with the family 284 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,840 for about $20 million. 285 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:10,120 I suppose the problem for many people is what happened in 1993, 286 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,320 or what didn't happen. 287 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:12,960 What didn't happen. 288 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,160 "Nothing ever happened." It was a mantra. 289 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,520 "Nothing ever happened." 290 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,840 And I thought to myself… 291 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,560 "Maybe it did." 292 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,280 [Martin on TV] The reason that's been given for why you didn't go to jail 293 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,560 was because you reached a financial settlement with the family. 294 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,640 Yeah. 295 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,360 I don't want to do a long, drawn-out thing on TV like OJ. 296 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,240 I want to go on with my life. 297 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,760 [Diane] Here it was, in my face again, all those years later, 298 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,280 and I couldn't ignore it. 299 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,640 You can't ignore it. 300 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,440 [unsettling music continues] 301 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:53,800 [man] I just remember watching the documentary with the Jackson family. 302 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,080 {\an8}And they were shocked. 303 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,320 And Michael, he called his mom, 304 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,360 and her whole demeanor changed. 305 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,240 Like, all she could say was, "They set him up. They set him up." 306 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,120 [man 1 on TV] Devastated and utterly betrayed. 307 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,720 A gross distortion of the truth 308 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,960 and a tawdry attempt to misrepresent his life and his abilities as a father. 309 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,400 That's the star's reaction to Living with Michael Jackson. 310 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,200 [Randy] People thought something's going on with Michael and this kid 311 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,320 because of what we saw on TV. 312 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,160 But Michael was determined and ready to fight. 313 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,760 Raymone Bain is Michael Jackson's spokesperson. 314 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,560 Ms. Bain, good morning to you. 315 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,440 Good morning. How are you? 316 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,680 {\an8}Well, I've been, uh, very blessed 317 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:42,960 because I worked with Muhammad Ali, Boyz II Men, Serena Williams… 318 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:48,280 And it was through Serena recommending me to Michael Jackson 319 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,800 that I began working for Michael Jackson. 320 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,760 I thought that the Bashir documentary was outrageous. 321 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,240 It was a "I got you" kind of thing. 322 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:04,400 After that, Michael was guilty until found innocent. 323 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,600 And I asked him point-blank, looking dead in his face, 324 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,800 "Did you do this?" 325 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,480 And I was convinced when he told me no 326 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,120 because had he told me yes, 327 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,560 or had I thought that he was guilty of molesting children, 328 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,560 I wouldn't have represented him. 329 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,680 One of the things that I was concerned about, 330 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,360 it was just uncontrollable. 331 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,800 When you are bigger than life, 332 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:29,880 which he was, 333 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,000 nothing goes unreported. 334 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:37,640 And there were some during that time to make sure everything was reported. 335 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:44,520 [Diane] I got on the line to all my best sources within law enforcement 336 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,120 to try to find out who this kid in the Bashir documentary was. 337 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,440 They said his name is Gavin. That's all I know. 338 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,720 [pensive music playing] 339 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,800 [man] Everyone is saying, "Who is the kid?" 340 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,520 It's a bit like there's blood in the water and the sharks are hungry. 341 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,320 {\an8}And we were some of those sharks. We were circling. 342 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,640 {\an8}We were circling Neverland to find that kid. 343 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,640 You've got to remember how many people are employed at Neverland. 344 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,160 You've got people shoveling giraffe shit. 345 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,040 You've got fairground workers. 346 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:14,440 There's so many sources there. There's so many employees. 347 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,200 You know, we're… we're paying a few. 348 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,840 [ominous music playing] 349 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,480 It doesn't take long to get the name. 350 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,840 The boy's surname was Arvizo. 351 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,520 Gavin Arvizo. 352 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,800 The difficulty, of course, is you're dealing with a child, 353 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,640 so we're going after the family. 354 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,480 The dad, David Arvizo, we found him. 355 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,120 The dad was ostracized from the family. 356 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,560 So you've got a financially needy family 357 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,280 whose head could be turned by a large check. 358 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:48,120 But in the case of the Arvizos, they weren't selling their story. 359 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,480 They never went for the money. 360 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,840 There was a story to be had. We just couldn't get it. 361 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,240 [ominous music continues] 362 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,240 [woman] A few years prior to the documentary, 363 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,600 I met the Arvizo family at the Laugh Factory. 364 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,400 {\an8}And Gavin was a really funny, 365 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,040 {\an8}bright, sparkly kid. 366 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:18,360 They were living in what you would call a bachelor apartment. It was one room. 367 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,080 They had mattresses on the floor. 368 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,320 They had sheets strung up for some privacy. 369 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:27,200 Janet was a good mom. 370 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:32,280 I found her to be childlike in her enthusiasm for everything. 371 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,640 And then one day, I get a phone call from Janet, and she's screaming, 372 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,520 "Gavin has cancer." 373 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,000 [poignant music playing] 374 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,280 As soon as I could, I went down to the hospital. 375 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:47,560 He was at Kaiser in Hollywood. 376 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,480 They were going to try everything, but the likelihood was that he would die. 377 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,160 I would visit him frequently at the hospital. 378 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:58,840 He lost all his hair. 379 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,080 He… He couldn't eat. He was just rocking and moaning. 380 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,480 One day, I walked into Gavin's room, 381 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,800 and there was a specially large gift basket. 382 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,200 It was the size of half the room. 383 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,080 I said, "Hey, Gav, you know, who sent you that?" 384 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,080 And he just said, "Michael." 385 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,640 And I said, "Michael who?" 386 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,400 "Michael Jackson." 387 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,160 Okay, cool. 388 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,280 I just sort of accepted it 389 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:32,400 because we've all seen him visiting all of these sick children 390 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,120 and needy children. 391 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,200 [women yell enthusiastically] 392 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,720 Children will always hold a special place in my heart. 393 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,600 [children clamoring] 394 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:46,000 [Louise] You'd just see a row of kids, and Michael Jackson in the center. 395 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,680 {\an8}[woman on TV] Michael Jackson was a modern-day Pied Piper to children. 396 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,320 {\an8}He did tell me the children coming to Neverland lifted his spirits. 397 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,280 {\an8}[Louise] A few months later, 398 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:01,320 {\an8}Janet called me and told me they had been to Neverland. 399 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,800 {\an8}And she told me how wonderful Michael was. 400 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,600 {\an8}And I thought that he was dying, and why shouldn't he go enjoy Neverland? 401 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,240 Well, way later, when I watched the Martin Bashir documentary, 402 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,320 my heart sank. 403 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,440 I just immediately thought, "The press is gonna hound these people." 404 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,200 I did not want them in this whirlwind. 405 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,120 I called Janet, I called Janet's mom, 406 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,640 and every number I called was disconnected. 407 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,880 Their phones being disconnected I found very alarming. 408 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,120 [music fades] 409 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,160 I didn't know their whereabouts. I didn't know if they were safe. 410 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,480 [ominous music playing] 411 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,400 [man] I just had graduated college. 412 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,040 {\an8}I was very excited to work in the entertainment industry 413 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:46,880 {\an8}and for Michael Jackson. 414 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,720 When I arrived in Los Angeles, 415 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,440 I walked into a very busy house, 416 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,960 comparable to, like, walking into, like, a busy newsroom. 417 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,800 People running around, phones ringing off the hook. 418 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:04,320 The media agencies were calling nonstop. 419 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,360 So I walk into this damage control, and then they said, 420 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,520 "You're gonna take care of the Arvizo family." 421 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,240 The media wanted answers after the fallout of the Bashir special. 422 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,840 Michael graciously opened up his arms and allowed the Arvizos back to the ranch. 423 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,400 So they were weathering the storm at Neverland. 424 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,240 [music crescendos, fades] 425 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,040 These photos are from the ranch. 426 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:34,080 I've kept them for the last 20 years. 427 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,080 This is Gavin's mother, Janet Arvizo. 428 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:43,680 {\an8}She writes, "Dearest loving Michael, we appreciate you being our family." 429 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,960 {\an8}"What God brings together, no man can undo." 430 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,320 {\an8}"We love you." 431 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,400 [unsettling music playing] 432 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,080 This is Star Arvizo, Gavin's brother. 433 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:04,080 {\an8}"I love you, my daddy Michael. Your son, Blowhole." 434 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,880 These are the nicknames that Michael would give these… these young boys. 435 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,600 There was individuals in the media 436 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,640 questioning Michael's relationship with children. 437 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,920 So the Jackson camp felt a need to hire a criminal defense attorney, Mark Geragos, 438 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,040 to look over the legal aspects of this. 439 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,280 [man] I had received a call 440 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:35,680 from a gentleman who was representing Michael. 441 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,880 And he asked if I would meet Michael at Neverland. 442 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,200 {\an8}The DNA of being a criminal defense lawyer 443 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,520 {\an8}is you're always thinking about the worst that can happen. 444 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:52,680 I realized that this is not just a reputation management issue. 445 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,200 This is potentially criminal exposure. 446 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,720 - And that is a problem. - [ominous music playing] 447 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,440 I saw that this was red meat 448 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,200 for a prosecutor who was determined to take down Michael. 449 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,120 The Jackson associates decided to make a video. 450 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:16,840 Janet Arvizo and family was to be filmed, 451 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,800 providing truthful statements regarding Michael Jackson and their relationship, 452 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,760 and more importantly, Gavin's relationship with Michael Jackson. 453 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,520 {\an8}Wait, you know how these Bashir… 454 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,280 {\an8}Hey, you know how Bashir zoomed in on him holding hands? 455 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:36,480 {\an8}- Do that, the same thing. - 'Cause you know how… 456 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,680 {\an8}Because that's what a mother or a father does with a son. 457 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,760 {\an8}And I feel that Janet, in front of me, while I was watching, 458 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,560 gave her side of the truth 459 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,800 about her relationship with Michael Jackson 460 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,200 that was not scripted. 461 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:52,640 {\an8}When I would tell him, 462 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,840 {\an8}"The doctors are saying there's no chance," 463 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,480 {\an8}Michael said, "I will not have that." 464 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,280 {\an8}"You bring him to me, and we will coat him with love." 465 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:04,640 {\an8}We may be broken. Michael fixed us. 466 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,880 {\an8}[Vincent] I physically watched and believed her responses to be true, 467 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,960 and nothing ever occurred untoward to them by Michael Jackson. 468 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,560 {\an8}When I first met Michael, all I thought was he was a loving, kind, humble man. 469 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,480 {\an8}And… and all he wanted to do was good. 470 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,600 {\an8}[Mark] This video is an insurance policy 471 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,320 should the Arvizo family make an allegation against Michael. 472 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,200 If somebody's on the stand and they say something, 473 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,120 you could have a snippet ready on video and show a jury. 474 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,240 "Well, you said that then and this is now." 475 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,680 And then that forces the witness to have to explain themselves. 476 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,160 I believe Michael didn't trust this family. 477 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:50,280 {\an8}So they had a private detective watching over the Arvizo family. 478 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:52,640 I received a phone call from Janet. 479 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,480 {\an8}She was panicky and whispery, 480 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,760 {\an8}and she was saying, "They're listening to everything I say." 481 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,640 {\an8}"I can't talk very long." 482 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,640 She really wanted to leave Neverland, but she was being told, 483 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,520 "We're trying to keep you safe. You need to stay here." 484 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,320 But she just felt like something was off. 485 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,760 {\an8}Janet called a good friend and said, "Do you know of any lawyers?" 486 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,800 {\an8}He recommended a lawyer who watched the Martin Bashir documentary and said, 487 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,080 "These children need to speak to a psychologist." 488 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,160 [ominous music playing] 489 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,320 [man] The children, particularly Gavin and Star, 490 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,120 I think really loved Michael Jackson. 491 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,200 {\an8}I think that he was very important 492 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,120 {\an8}at a time when there was chaos in their life, economic, medical. 493 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,840 And I think both Star and Gavin looked to him for some stability. 494 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,800 It was very shocking to me when I learned about his experiences 495 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,480 and his familiarity with Michael Jackson. 496 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,280 I felt like the boys were credible, 497 00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:56,760 and I felt there was enough information for me to reasonably suspect 498 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,760 Gavin had been the victim of child sexual abuse. 499 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,560 And in the State of California, health professionals in general, 500 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,240 if you have a reasonable suspicion, you must, under penalty of law, 501 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,360 make a report to the appropriate authorities. 502 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,040 [ominous music continues] 503 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,320 [Ron] At the time, I was prosecuting predominantly sex crimes. 504 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,240 I was one of the few men who actually did that, 505 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,680 {\an8}and did a lot of them. 506 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,600 {\an8}Rape cases, child molest cases, 507 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,520 {\an8}crimes against women, crimes against children. 508 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,200 That became one of my specialties. 509 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,240 And I got a call from the district attorney, 510 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,280 and I went down to his office, and he handed me a report. 511 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:39,720 And it took a moment before I finally saw the name Michael Jackson. 512 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,680 The most recognizable person in the world. 513 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,240 [music fades] 514 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,840 But to find out, is there a credible accusation of sexual abuse, 515 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,080 {\an8}almost always the first thing detectives do is interview the child. 516 00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:56,440 [officer] Okay, we're rolling. 517 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,560 You need to sit right there, buddy. 518 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,040 [unsettling music playing] 519 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:05,440 How long is it going to take? 520 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,800 [officer] Well, as far as how fast you answer our questions 521 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,880 and how you feel and all that stuff. 522 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,360 Rolling. 523 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,520 So he grabbed me. 524 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,280 - [officer] He grabbed you? - Yeah. 525 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:21,840 [officer] Where did he grab you at? 526 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,840 Private area. 527 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,680 [officer] He grabbed you in your private area? 528 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,240 Where were you at when this happened? 529 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,360 On his bed. 530 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,880 [officer] In bed? 531 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,720 Were you lying in bed or were you sitting on the bed? 532 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,320 I was lying on his bed, and we were talking. 533 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,880 [officer] And did you have clothes on or off? 534 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,560 On? 535 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,840 - Yeah. I had his pajamas. - [officer] Okay. 536 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,200 And what did he end up doing? 537 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,640 He told me… 538 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,800 'cause he said 539 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,840 that if I knew how to do it and he said… 540 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,360 And if I don't, he'll do it for me. 541 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,880 So he started… 542 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,160 [officer] Speak up a little bit. I can't hear you, buddy. 543 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,440 I know it's hard. 544 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,840 [Ron] You can expect to see a child who's talking about a subject matter 545 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,720 that's difficult to talk about. 546 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,240 Life is so much easier if you just say, "Nothing happened." 547 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,680 And the questions stop. 548 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,080 [unsettling music continues] 549 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,640 You watch kids, they just sit there and implode. 550 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,400 Not explode, implode. 551 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,480 They sort of shrink into themselves. 552 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,280 Their shoulders come in, their head drops down. 553 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,080 It's as if they're trying to disappear into the floor. 554 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,120 [officer] And what did he do next? 555 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,520 He started masturbating me. 556 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,240 [officer] Okay. 557 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:43,080 Then… [sniffles] …after a while, I told him I didn't want him to do that. 558 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,200 [officer] Did he stop? 559 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,560 I told him no. 560 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,400 He kept on doing it. 561 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,520 I told him… He kept saying that 562 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,440 he wants to teach me, and… 563 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,520 I told him… I told him no. 564 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,160 [Ron] At some point after the release of the Martin Bashir documentary, 565 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,880 Michael Jackson had sexually abused Gavin. 566 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,400 That's what Gavin told us, and we believed him. 567 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,800 What I saw, I thought, was a very typical interview 568 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,160 of a child who had experienced sexual abuse. 569 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,680 [officer] Was there anything else 570 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,920 where you had seen naked pictures or naked women before? 571 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,440 Both being with Michael? 572 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,360 Yeah. 573 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,640 [officer] Where was that at? 574 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,480 He had a black suitcase. 575 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,200 He said, there's a black suitcase, and it's full of, like, naked pictures 576 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,960 and magazines of women. 577 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:30,880 [officer] Of women? 578 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,160 And girls. 579 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,400 [officer] Did you see them? 580 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,520 He showed it to me. 581 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,200 [officer] I really am very proud of you, Gavin. 582 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,400 I'm very proud of you. 583 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,200 [Stan] I learned that both Star and Gavin had been shown pornography. 584 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,720 Star told me that he had seen Michael put alcohol 585 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,720 {\an8}into soda cans, 586 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,400 {\an8}called it Jesus Juice. 587 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,840 Gavin told me that he had Jesus Juice on planes. 588 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,800 Gavin told me he had Jesus Juice in Michael Jackson's room. 589 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,320 [Ron] When you're prosecuting a case involving a crime against a child, 590 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,920 you rarely have witnesses to it. 591 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,840 So we want to see if we can corroborate what Gavin had told us 592 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,720 about what was going on in Neverland with Michael Jackson. 593 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,360 And that included executing a search warrant on his property. 594 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,800 [ominous music playing] 595 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,200 [news theme plays] 596 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,280 This is a Fox News alert. 597 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,680 A search warrant has been issued and executed 598 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,600 by the Santa Barbara County Police. 599 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,280 [tense music playing] 600 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,080 Dozens of investigators are swarming Michael Jackson's ranch in California, 601 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,200 looking for evidence in what is being called an ongoing criminal investigation. 602 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,640 {\an8}- [sheriff 1] What's all this shit here? - [sheriff 2] That's a filming crew. 603 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,320 {\an8}- Yeah, definitely. - [sheriff 1] Damn it. 604 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,840 {\an8}They're taking pictures. 605 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,880 {\an8}[tense music continues] 606 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,120 {\an8}[indistinct police chatter] 607 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,080 [sheriff 2] Okay, well, let's do our checks. 608 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,040 You don't have a job until we secure this house. 609 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,480 [Ron] If we think that we have a good chance 610 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,080 of being able to get a conviction on this case, then we should do it. 611 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,160 We shouldn't not do it because he's a celebrity. 612 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,360 [sheriff 1] Search warrant. 613 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,640 [tense music continues] 614 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,200 [woman on TV] Right now, Target Neverland is underway. 615 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,200 As many as 60 investigators are inside at this point, searching the ranch. 616 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,800 To my left, you'll see the mass of media from all over the world here. 617 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,440 It goes down about a quarter mile… 618 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,240 [Ron] We had a very realistic understanding of what was going to happen. 619 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,160 The constant presence of the press. 620 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,760 It never crossed our mind that that would be a reason 621 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,880 that we wouldn't prosecute Michael Jackson. 622 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,280 We knew what it would mean nationally and even internationally. 623 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,560 Those investigators are still on the scene. 624 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,040 Somebody very close to this investigation says it does involve child molestation. 625 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,120 [tense music continues] 626 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,440 [Vincent] I was at home. 627 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,760 All of a sudden, there's a news flash. 628 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,520 There was a raid at Neverland. 629 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,320 I almost dropped to the floor. 630 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,360 I knew inherently that this was the Arvizo family. 631 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,680 How could they accuse Michael of molesting their child? 632 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,120 I wholeheartedly believed in his innocence. 633 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,680 I felt that it just didn't make logical sense 634 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,840 that Michael would harm a child 635 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,400 after the deposition 636 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,000 and the family speaking so positively of him. 637 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,640 {\an8}[sheriff 2] No surprises? 638 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,000 {\an8}[man] No surprises. 639 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,840 {\an8}This goes right in here. 640 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,920 {\an8}Right now, I put some… 641 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,000 {\an8}luggage one of the guests… 642 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,360 {\an8}[sheriff 2] We're going this way? 643 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,000 {\an8}[Ron] We want to see if we can corroborate what Gavin had told us. 644 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,680 {\an8}Where the stairway is… 645 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,680 {\an8}[sheriff 2] Okay. 646 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,960 {\an8}- Go ahead, Curtis. - [sheriff 1] Sheriff's Department. 647 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,440 - [sheriff 2] You have another light? - [sheriff 1] No. 648 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,920 [Ron] Where the bed is. 649 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,160 [tense music continues] 650 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:12,720 I knew that in Jackson's interview in the documentary by Martin Bashir, 651 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,800 he was saying, "These kids, they want to stay in my bed." 652 00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:20,960 [Michael] When you say bed, you're thinking sexual. 653 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,520 They make that sexual. It's not sexual. We're going to sleep. I tuck them in. 654 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,360 I put a little, like, music on, 655 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,840 do a little story time, I read a book. I give them hot milk. 656 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,360 You know, we have little cookies. It's very charming. 657 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,720 Very sweet. 658 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,480 We want to see if there was the briefcase that Gavin said existed in the bedroom 659 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,320 that had all of the pornography in it. 660 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,440 [music intensifies] 661 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,080 Yes, we found the briefcase. 662 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,960 Yes, it was the same color. Yes, it had pornography in it. 663 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,560 {\an8}[unsettling music playing] 664 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,880 [sheriff 2] When's Mr. Jackson gonna be back? 665 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,240 You don't know. 666 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,360 [sheriff 1] Hey, how come the fireplace is on? 667 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,640 [sheriff 2] Jose turned it on yesterday. I asked the same. 668 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,600 [Diane] I stood outside Neverland for hours and hours and hours that day, 669 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,960 watching whether or not they're gonna bring Michael Jackson out. 670 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,040 He's not there. 671 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,000 The sheriff's office, all they have said is that this is a property search, 672 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,800 an ongoing investigation, 673 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,080 and tomorrow morning at about eleven o'clock, 674 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,480 we'll have a news conference with both the DA and the sheriff. 675 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,040 - [man 1] Okay. We're 30 seconds. - [reporters murmuring] 676 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,520 [tense, pensive music playing] 677 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,720 The basis for this investigation regarding Mr. Jackson 678 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,280 involves allegations of child molestation, 679 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,680 288A of the California Penal Code. 680 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,640 Additionally, an arrest warrant for Mr. Jackson has been issued 681 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,560 on multiple counts of child molestation. 682 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,000 For years, pop star Michael Jackson 683 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,320 has denied having inappropriate contact with children, 684 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,400 and he has never been charged. 685 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,000 But tonight, Jackson is wanted by police. 686 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,440 [man 2] Jackson could be a flight risk. Could he be a flight risk? 687 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,320 There's always that potential, but we are pursuing the arrest warrant. 688 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,800 [man 3] Do you know where he is now? 689 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,320 - No. - [spokesman] No, we do not. 690 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,000 Ask Diane. She knows everything about Michael Jackson. 691 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,640 [Diane] I already had this history, this knowledge, this source base. 692 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:22,200 And they were calling me, these sources, as often as I was calling them. 693 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,600 Every hour, I was finding out more and more things, 694 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,880 and I get some real hard facts. 695 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,080 I came to discover that Michael Jackson was not at Neverland, 696 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,200 but somewhere in Las Vegas. 697 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,280 [ominous music playing] 698 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,080 [man] The 45-year-old's whereabouts are a mystery. 699 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,520 {\an8}Some say he's been at the Four Seasons. 700 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,960 {\an8}Others say up the Strip at The Mirage, where he reportedly owns a villa. 701 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,760 And still others say, "No, he last stayed here at the Bellagio." 702 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,800 Fact is, it seems nobody in this town knows where Michael Jackson last stayed, 703 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,680 let alone where he is tonight. 704 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,880 [Kevin] We're outside Neverland, we're in Vegas, 705 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:01,720 we've got people stationed everywhere. 706 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,200 And it's a bit embarrassing that we don't know where he is right now. 707 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,480 [ominous music continues] 708 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,560 [Brian] Those of us who know Michael, we think… 709 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,840 I think the world of him, 710 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,960 and I just cannot fathom that this would be true. 711 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,480 At the time, Michael wasn't talking to nobody. 712 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,040 He was hoping that the furor would go away. 713 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,640 Mrs. Jackson had a theory about life. 714 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:27,240 If you ducked and covered enough, the storm would pass you by. 715 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,280 And Michael practiced that very carefully. 716 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,720 [Diane] I find out from a source, he's holed up in this villa, 717 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,960 and he only opens the door wearing a colorful dashiki muumuu garment, 718 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,480 only enough to get the food brought in, and then he slams the door. 719 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,880 And he's having wild parties. 720 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,400 There were cigarette burns in the leather couches and chairs. 721 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,720 There were food containers everywhere. 722 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,120 There were empty liquor bottles on every table. 723 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,680 And this is where Michael Jackson had been for several days, 724 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,960 entertaining young teenage boys who all spoke German. 725 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,720 And he said, after the raid, Michael Jackson was informed, 726 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,680 "Oh my God, the cops are at Neverland again." 727 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,080 And he left just like that. 728 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,160 [ominous music continues] 729 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,080 [Diane] Michael Jackson remains a wanted man this morning, 730 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,640 and everyone's waiting to see when he'll turn himself in. 731 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,680 Jackson's spokesman says the singer will return to Santa Barbara 732 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,040 to confront and prove that the charges are unfounded. 733 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,600 We have to go. My producer's telling me we have to go. 734 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,200 The next thing I hear, Michael Jackson negotiates 735 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,440 with the district attorney's office 736 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,520 as to the "surrender." 737 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,600 [tense music playing] 738 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,880 [man] We were hearing that this aircraft 739 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,800 may be connected with Michael Jackson's arrival. 740 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,640 He is rolling out right now on runway seven. 741 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,840 {\an8}[Diane] He flew in in a private jet, 742 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,240 {\an8}into a hangar in Santa Barbara, 743 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,600 {\an8}and my sources were telling me 744 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,040 {\an8}he voluntarily flew there to surrender. 745 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,480 They put the handcuffs on him and put him in a car. 746 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,960 That car was also outfitted with audio. 747 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:23,880 [man 1] Okay. 748 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,720 [Michael] Can we put some air on, please? 749 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,720 [man 1] Okay. 750 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,320 [man 2] That okay for you, Mr. Jackson? 751 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,960 [Michael] It's wonderful. Thank you. Thank you very much. 752 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,640 [Diane] They did not want any false reports of police brutality. 753 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:39,720 - [protesters yelling indistinctly] - [tense music continues] 754 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,120 [man 1] Coming in the back. 755 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,240 [man 2] The back. 756 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,160 [man 1] He's coming in. 757 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,600 [man 3] It's the car starting to pull into the sally port area. 758 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,080 [speaking indistinctly] 759 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,000 [Michael] They hurt. They're tight, aren't they? 760 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,320 [man 2] Just, if you want to scoot forward a little bit. 761 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,040 There you go. 762 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,840 [man 3] All right, somebody's coming out of the vehicle now. 763 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,520 [Diane] There he is. It's Michael Jackson. 764 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,320 He's in handcuffs. 765 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,120 - [man 3] I believe he's in handcuffs. - [Diane] Mike, he's in handcuffs. 766 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,240 [man 3] Yes. 767 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,440 [man 4] So after that 24-hour mystery about his whereabouts, 768 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,640 Michael Jackson has now surrendered into police custody behind me. 769 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:25,200 A crushing humiliation for one of the world's great entertainers, 770 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,680 right now being read those charges of child molestation. 771 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,720 Minutes are ticking by. I'm still live on the air. 772 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,880 I'm thinking, "Is he going to be booked, fingerprinted, mugshot?" 773 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,760 "What happens next?" 774 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,520 And then it popped up in my monitor. [gasps] 775 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,600 And I was stunned. 776 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,400 I'm live on the air, so I have to be careful what I say. 777 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,120 I thought, number one, he looks so pale. 778 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,640 It looked ghoulish. It looked like a deer in the headlights. 779 00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:58,400 I almost felt sorry for him. 780 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,280 When I saw him with his hands cuffed, 781 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,840 and then that mugshot, 782 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,840 I realized this is not just at the allegation stage anymore. 783 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,200 Michael Jackson is now in the American criminal justice system. 784 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,240 He's in the system. 785 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,480 And the system was not going to let him go, 786 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,720 and my sources were telling me there was going to be a criminal trial. 787 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,160 [ominous music playing] 788 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:25,320 [man] Seven counts of lewd and lascivious acts against a child 789 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,400 with the intent of arousing, appealing to, and gratifying the lust, 790 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,480 passions, and sexual desires of Jackson and the child, 791 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,600 and two counts of administering an intoxicating agent, 792 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,040 reportedly alcohol, 793 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,560 with the intent of committing child molestation. 794 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,480 [Mark] He's come back specifically to confront these charges head-on. 795 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:51,000 He is greatly outraged by the bringing of these charges. 796 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,920 Uh, he considers this to be a big lie. 797 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,040 He was enormously stressed. 798 00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:02,600 {\an8}All of a sudden, there is a reality to what has been theoretical. 799 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,600 [ominous music continues] 800 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,160 I watched him just disintegrate. 801 00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:08,880 Literally disintegrate. 802 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,800 The ingestion of substances was just astronomical. 803 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,480 There was a time when I actually saw him in the fetal position on the floor, 804 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,840 and I thought, "What do we do?" 805 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,560 I mean, you don't want his death to be on your hands 806 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,120 because you took some inaction. 807 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:38,880 It was a horrific time for him and for those around him, 808 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,800 and we had genuine concerns as to whether 809 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,600 he could even withstand a trial physically, mentally. 810 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,280 [ominous music continues] 811 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:54,000 {\an8}Michael is hearing all of these heinous accusations on a day-to-day basis, 812 00:42:54,080 --> 00:43:00,600 {\an8}and he's wanting people to step up and say that's not true, and to defend him more. 813 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,320 {\an8}[Joe] We know our son. 814 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,640 {\an8}We know that he's not a pedophile like some of these newscasters are saying. 815 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:08,360 {\an8}This is ridiculous. 816 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,360 {\an8}We have a lot of wicked people out there, and they know what they're doing. 817 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,920 [Raymone] Michael is saying, "What is this obsession with me?" 818 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,440 "Why am I a target?" 819 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:25,320 It seemed to me that there was a deliberate attempt to try to get him. 820 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,560 {\an8}It is racism. It is. 821 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,160 {\an8}Katherine's not going to say it, but I will say it. 822 00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:31,760 {\an8}It is racism. 823 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,800 [Stacy] When the charges were announced against Michael, 824 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,200 of course, the family, they were heartsick. 825 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,840 {\an8}But for Michael's siblings, it was never about guilt or innocence for them. 826 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,360 {\an8}It was about legacy. 827 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,680 "They can't do this to us. They want to destroy what we built." 828 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,440 It's what I kept hearing over and over again. 829 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,920 We are the Jacksons, as Randy Jackson would say, you know, 830 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,080 "We're royalty. We're the Black Kennedys." 831 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,680 [tense music playing] 832 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,800 My mother, my father, my sisters, my brothers 833 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,160 are overwhelmed at the outpouring of the support from the fans, 834 00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:08,200 both here in the United States and all around the world. 835 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,760 It was all about the brand. 836 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,440 Michael Jackson, the brand. 837 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,720 The Jacksons, the brand. We've got to protect the brand. 838 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,240 Thank you very much. That's all I've got to say. 839 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,280 [Stacy] I remember Jermaine calling me up and says, "Guess what?" 840 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,920 "You know, Michael says, when the trial is over, we're going to go on tour again." 841 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,320 And I got to realize that that's what this was really about for-- 842 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,720 At least for Jermaine. 843 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,200 We've got to support him because he's got to come through this, 844 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,880 he's got to beat these charges so they can make more music and go out on tour. 845 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,400 He's innocent. And he knows that. We know that. 846 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,880 And the public knows that too. 847 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,280 He's innocent. 848 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,720 {\an8}Our response is, here we go again. 849 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,640 {\an8}Michael has 24-hour-a-day supervision with him 850 00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:57,600 {\an8}for the specific purpose of protecting him against these kinds of claims. 851 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,520 {\an8}Did he want to have children around him? 852 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,960 {\an8}Yes, he did. No question about it. 853 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,680 But to groom children for molestation? 854 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,480 What, he was the wicked witch in Hansel and Gretel? 855 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,800 How nonsensical. 856 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,360 Michael Jackson was the biggest superstar 857 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,240 in the history of the country and the world. 858 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,040 Adults would get into Michael's presence, and they were all atwitter, 859 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,000 and it was impossible for him to function. 860 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,560 But with children, they didn't care. 861 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,200 He was just one of the guys. 862 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,080 And that's why he liked being with children. 863 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,160 - [crowd clamoring] - [unsettling music playing] 864 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:43,280 I remember on the day of the arraignment, I'd never seen anything like it. 865 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,480 Michael Jackson presents himself in court, 866 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,720 and the formal charges are read against him. 867 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,400 I knew we were watching the potential demise of a superstar. 868 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,240 - [music turns tense] - [crowd clamoring] 869 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,080 - [woman] Michael. - [man] Michael. 870 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,160 He knows there are two parallel battles underway. 871 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:06,760 There is the legal battle underway inside that courtroom, 872 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,520 and then there is the public relations skirmish 873 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,440 that is also underway. 874 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:12,720 [girls chanting] Michael! 875 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,800 [Stacy] Michael had an entire army with him. 876 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,200 The huge crowd there. 877 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,440 News stations take this garbage and then report it as fact? 878 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,640 - You should be ashamed of yourselves! - [man] Ashamed. 879 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:24,720 [women whoop] 880 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,040 [girls chanting] Michael! 881 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,120 I believe he's 100% innocent, and I don't think he would do something like this. 882 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,920 He doesn't have the heart to do it. 883 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,000 We believe in his innocence, and we're supporting him all the way, 884 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,600 and we're thinking about him, 885 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,600 and we're going to be here for him. 886 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,320 - What do we want? - [crowd] Justice! 887 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,480 {\an8}- When do we want it? Now! - [crowd] Now! 888 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,280 [Stacy] I'll never forget Bob Jones, 889 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,600 Michael's longtime manager, and I were standing next to Michael. 890 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,720 And Bob had his back to him. 891 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,160 And he says, 892 00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:57,200 "I know he's gonna do something crazy. I just know he's going to." 893 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,600 [crowd screaming] 894 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,240 [woman] Oh my goodness, look at this. He's jumping on top of the car. 895 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,160 - [man] Oh yeah, we see him. - [woman] Truly performing for his fans. 896 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,400 I remember looking up, kind of gobsmacked, 897 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,680 and I thought he was gonna start moonwalking. 898 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,040 [crowd screaming] 899 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,640 [Mark] I was immensely impressed 900 00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:22,520 with the physicality of hopping onto the top of an SUV 901 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,600 in the state or condition he was in. 902 00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:28,680 He's one of the greatest performers of the century. 903 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,840 He can turn it on. 904 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,360 [Brian] He said, 905 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,080 "Brian, how do guilty people leave court?" 906 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,640 I said, "They kind of are embarrassed and they hide." 907 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:43,080 He says, "Yeah, they put their jacket over their head, and they hide." 908 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,560 "How do innocent people leave the courthouse?" 909 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,120 "They let the whole world see them." 910 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,120 "They stand tall, and they stand proud." 911 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,200 - [ominous music playing] - [crowd screaming] 912 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,560 In his own inimical way, 913 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,680 Michael Jackson knew how to tell the world he was innocent. 914 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,360 [unsettling music playing] 915 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,640 [Diane] I would not be surprised if somewhere down the road, 916 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:20,560 some of the people surrounding Michael Jackson 917 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,680 {\an8}might have at least the threat of charges against them, 918 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,640 {\an8}aiding, abetting, allowing children in, 919 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,840 knowing full well what the heck might happen. 920 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,520 [on recording] Hey, Vincent. Sergeant Robel again. 921 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,720 I want to hear from you, 922 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,120 whether you want to speak to me with your attorney. 923 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,400 Giving you the opportunity, bud, because the ship is sinking pretty fast. 924 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,520 So, please, Vince, give me a buzz. 925 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,400 [Ron] You know, we knew that Vinny was one of the people who was at Neverland 926 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,240 {\an8}and had an association with the kids when they were there. 927 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,560 {\an8}So we were interested in talking to Vinny to see if he could help us in any way 928 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,360 {\an8}in terms of what was going on with the kids. 929 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,520 {\an8}I defended him. 930 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,480 {\an8}And I believed in his innocence. 931 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,520 {\an8}One of the reasons was because of my friend Frank. 932 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,240 Michael was like a father to Frank. 933 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,640 Frank was a young child when he met Michael, 934 00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:15,400 and he grew in the ranks, and he became his personal assistant. 935 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,160 Basically anything Michael wanted, he would have to do. 936 00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:22,960 Frank Tyson is thought to be one of Jackson's closest friends. 937 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,480 They met when Tyson was just five years old, 938 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,520 and he's admittedly slept in Jackson's bed. 939 00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:31,960 [Vincent] I said, "Frank, you're the closest person to Michael." 940 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,840 I said, "Is this true?" 941 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,320 {\an8}He's never given me an indication that he is interested in boys 942 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,360 {\an8}or sexual attraction to boys. 943 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,320 {\an8}It's the opposite. 944 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,840 [Vincent] He told me, "No, Michael would never do this with a child." 945 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,080 "I know Michael… 946 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,640 all my life." 947 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:50,280 "He would never do this." 948 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,200 And I trusted Frank. 949 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,200 But they were raiding other Jackson associates' houses and properties. 950 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,200 [sirens wailing] 951 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:03,280 Frank cleaned out his house of anything that came from the Neverland Ranch. 952 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,400 And he hands me a Nike bag. 953 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,480 I took the bag, and, um, I'm driving home, 954 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,480 and I felt something's a little suspicious. 955 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,920 And I said, you know, "Let me take a look in this bag." 956 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,520 I start taking videos to document this. 957 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,640 [unsettling music playing] 958 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,400 I open the bag. I start looking, and I see a magazine. 959 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,880 Start flipping through it… 960 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:53,000 and there was a Sharpie… circles around the video ordering section. 961 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,440 Someone's wanted these videos, circled the ones they want. 962 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,960 These videos, which are children that are naked. 963 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,480 Some with family, some just naked children. 964 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,360 [unsettling music continues] 965 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,360 I… I… I confronted Frank. 966 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,840 I said, you know, "Frank, what is this magazine?" 967 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,720 I said, "Because, you know, 968 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,320 there's circles around video with naked children." 969 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,240 He says, "That's just a phase that Michael and I went through." 970 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,000 "You know, he circled the videos he wanted, I ordered them, 971 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,760 and it was a phase we went through." 972 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,440 They watched them together. 973 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,160 When I heard that, I was in disbelief. 974 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,120 I was very upset. 975 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:39,040 My inclination was, after finding this and sitting there thinking about it, 976 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:44,040 was that Frank is so close to Michael that he's covering up for him. 977 00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:48,040 That was a defining moment for me. 978 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,720 That was the moment that hit me so hard 979 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,080 where I realized that there's something going on here. 980 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,040 [unsettling music continues] 981 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,720 In the last few weeks, a large amount of ugly, malicious information 982 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,720 has been released into the media about me. 983 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,960 I allowed a family to visit and spend some time at Neverland. 984 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,240 Through the years, I have helped thousands of children 985 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,160 who are ill or in distress. 986 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,080 Please keep an open mind and let me have my day in court. 987 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,480 Thank you. 988 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,560 [pensive music playing] 989 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,280 [dramatic music playing] 990 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,360 [music fades] 79640

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