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PRESTON:
You're there, Javier, right?
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JAVIER:
We're there. We're there.
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We're gonna trigger
the pyro now.
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But they're not
anywhere near the triangle!
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What in the world is going on?
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MATTY:
What could possibly explain
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the high strangeness
on Skinwalker Ranch?
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There's something
falling right there.
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JIM:
Black thing flying by the lens.
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MATTY:
Is it something
that lurks in the sky?
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TRAVIS:
Put that thing in there
and see what we can see.
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MATTY:
Or is the secret...
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Oh! Back up, back up, back up.
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MATTY:
...hiding deep below ground?
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TRAVIS:
What is that?
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MATTY:
I'm back to meet
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with the team
in order to find out.
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Is whatever's
in the mesa actually
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communicating with this team?
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And it seems that the answer
could be yes in both cases.
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Are we dealing
with a nonhuman intelligence?
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Incredible.
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♪ ♪
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Congratulations, again,
on an incredible hour.
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That was... Oof.
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If-if there's
one singular question--
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and this ranch has
a lot of questions--
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but the one singular question
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that maybe is looming
over everybody
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every time we're here is
what is in the mesa?
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And tonight,
we go back to the mesa.
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Let's talk about that.
But Brandon,
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this isn't the first time
I've said this to a team,
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but given what you've
taken out of the mesa,
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why aren't we just digging?
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Yeah. We get that question
all the time.
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Why aren't you blowing it up?
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Why aren't you going in
more aggressively?
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Well, we don't want
to destroy or damage
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the very exotic or unusual thing
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that may be in that mesa
that may hold all the answers.
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With the drilling exercises,
I think we have
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to proceed with great caution.
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ERIK:
You know, we-we don't know
what we will unleash
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if we are not careful
with whatever this object is.
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Yeah. Imagine
if it's like, say, uh,
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-some strange device in there...
-Yeah.
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TRAVIS:
...from science fiction.
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And-and, or what
if it's just a toxic material?
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Well, we don't know
what could be unleashed
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from this mesa
when we finally make access
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to what really is behind
some of this exotic material
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that we're, uh, extracting.
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It's funny when you
frame it like that.
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You look
at that strange ceramic material
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and you think, "Oh my gosh.
You found this in the mesa,"
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you must dig.
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But in a sense, finding that
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is a great reason not to dig
in an aggressive manner.
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Yeah, our quarry is not
just a physical object.
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It is information.
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We want to learn
as much as we can
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from whatever's in there.
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Well, yeah, you know half
of the exercise here has been
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what we've observed
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as the drillers have tried
to go up through there.
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We would have missed out
on all of that data
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-if we had just gone
straight to digging.
-ERIK: Exactly.
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So let's take inventory
of our experience out there.
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So initially, when we went in,
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we ended up hitting what was
described to us as a dome
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pushing
the directional drill head
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downwards and allowing it
to travel upwards.
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Um, so that's physical.
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Then we also have
the ground-penetrating radar,
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the GPR data
that we got from the top
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that indicated
that there is, in fact,
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some kind of a mass there,
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something that is unlike
the surrounding material.
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And don't forget
the first drilling exercise
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where we found
those metal flakes.
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Oh, yeah.
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Those metal flakes
we had analyzed
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by experts in the field.
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It was interesting to look
at what they were made of
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but also how
they may have been made.
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The methodology was
compared to, uh,
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the methods used to create
space shuttle heat shield tiles.
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This stuff
doesn't belong in there.
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By the way,
I'd like to make a motion
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to the team that we stop
calling those things
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metal flakes and start
calling them UFO tiles.
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(laughter)
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Well, I wouldn't go,
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I wouldn't go
that-that far yet.
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Okay. They seem to be
more than metal flakes, though.
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-Fair?
-BRANDON: Yeah.
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They're definitely out of place
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and not naturally occurring.
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Uh, y-you couple with that
the interference
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that we're seeing
with the digging activity,
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and it's,
it's time to be cautious.
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ERIK:
So the approach
that we've decided on
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as a team is to create
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parallel boreholes
through the mesa
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on either side of that anomaly.
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So with those two pathways
up through the mesa,
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we can put scanning devices
into those shafts
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and actually send a signal
from one to the other
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and see what's going on
in between.
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So once we determined
that we have something there
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that the drill
couldn't drill through,
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then the next option is to try
to get as close to it as we can
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and see what it is.
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MATTY:
This week, your first move was
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to put a camera down Borehole 1
that you had drilled last year.
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Talk about what you found
and what we know
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about what you found
now sitting here.
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Have we learned anything else?
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THOMAS:
Well, yeah, you know,
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we wanted to get
a camera up there and see
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and just really make sure
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that it hadn't
collapsed in on itself
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over the course of the winter.
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MATTY:
And you see--
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not for the first time
but again--
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this anomalous green gel,
possibly, like, substance,
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what do we make of that?
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ERIK:
It looked like there might be
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a lot of this material
scattered within the, uh,
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within that drill shaft.
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Is this just an isolated piece
of this material here and there?
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Or is it in fact integral
to what we're drilling into?
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You know, going back
to our first,
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our first, um, encounter
with this green material,
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when we had it analyzed,
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it appeared to contain
materials, plant materials,
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very old plant materials.
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-Like 50 million years old.
-50 million years old.
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And-and interestingly,
with that report
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is the observation that it
appears to have been burned.
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(stammers)
What burned in the mesa
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50 million years ago?
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Got to be really hot,
whatever it is.
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-And-and...
-Like a crash.
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(Travis grunts)
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It's possible. It's possible.
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But what we really noticed
that was repeatable
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was as we got about 200 feet
or so into the hole,
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there was suddenly
interference with the camera.
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Now, this isn't
a wireless camera.
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This is a camera that's
got a wire connected to it
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all the way back to us
to a monitor.
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When we would pass the camera
through that spot,
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the screen would get
all flickery and fuzzy,
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and then when it'd get
past it, it'd be fine.
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And we'd pull it back
through it, it would repeat.
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And we repeated it
several times.
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So there's something
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in that spot, 200 feet in there,
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that causes
electromagnetic interference.
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ERIK:
That's some pretty
strong evidence that there is
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something energetic
going on in the mesa.
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Well, one of
the crazy things is,
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is we've looked
at that 200-foot mark
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as a measurement point
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in the mesa because we've had
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other things happen
with equipment
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in the years previous.
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And then, I want to say
this is where
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Thomas had some really
crazy stuff happen
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with the-the drilling beacon.
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Yeah. Beacon, communication,
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this is exactly what
I want to drill down on--
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pun intended--
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because is this an example
of whatever's in the mesa
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because is this an example
of whatever's in the mesa
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actually potentially
communicating with this team?
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And I want to get
your thoughts on that next.
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Definitely.
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Is there something buried
inside the mesa
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on Skinwalker Ranch
that is trying to actively
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stop this team
from identifying what it is?
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Or are there a number
of forces at work
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trying to thwart
their investigation?
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Tom, I want to come to you,
because we're talking about
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right now you guys drilling
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to be able to look
at whatever this anomaly is
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that is in the mesa.
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And to do that,
you have to be able
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to track those drills, correct?
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-Correct.
-But then, things didn't go
exactly according to plan.
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Right. Well, you know,
we have this beacon,
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which has been spoken of before.
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And the beacon is critical
to the drilling exercise
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because it's what gives us
all of the information
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as to what's happening
with that drill bit.
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And to do this, they have
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the beacon, which goes
inside the drill bit,
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and then they've got
what they call the locater.
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And the beacon transmits
all of that data to the locator,
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and then sends it
to the drill rig.
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And interestingly enough,
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the drillers arrive and they're
trying to get it calibrated
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and linked up,
and it will not link.
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Well, that's when
you guys had an idea
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that maybe the location
of where we were trying
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to sync that up at
had something to do
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with the interference
that they were experiencing.
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-You know?
-MATTY: And we're talking about
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-this bubble area, correct?
-ERIK: Exactly.
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That would be
inside this-this bubble.
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-Right.
-Yeah.
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Remind me again about
the dimensions of this bubble
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in terms of where
this is happening.
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Well, based on our lidar scans,
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we've got a structure
that's centered on the triangle,
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as best we can tell.
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TRAVIS:
I remember
looking at Erik saying,
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"You know, the drill is
inside the bubble."
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We had the collective,
uh, direction to Thomas
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to, "Hey, take that thing
outside the bubble and,
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and see if it syncs up outside."
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So we jumped in the truck,
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we drove the locator
and the beacon
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outside of the bubble
towards the west.
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This right here puts us
well outside the bubble.
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It will be interesting
to see if you can, uh,
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get it to sync here.
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ALEX:
Powering back up.
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It's linked up.
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-MIKE: First try.
-First try.
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That's interesting.
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Hey, guys. You got a copy?
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Yeah, Thomas. Go ahead.
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THOMAS:
First try,
it synced up beautifully.
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There you go. There you go.
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That's just unbelievable.
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It got even stranger
from that point.
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We're driving back
to the drill site,
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and right when we get
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to the boundary of the bubble,
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we see the signal strength
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just drop significantly.
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As if that locator is
transmitting
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through 60, 70, 80 feet of mesa.
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But here they are in the truck,
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and there's nothing
between them.
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It's clear to the eye.
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There was as if there was
an invisible barrier
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that was blocking the signal.
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MATTY:
I mean,
that's the scientific method
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in its best application
in the field, right?
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That's validation
that there's something to that.
255
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Yeah, ultimately, everything's
gonna come down to experiment.
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TRAVIS:
Right.
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So drilling is proving
difficult with challenges,
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as it often does,
but yet yielding
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-incredible potential evidence.
-ERIK: Data rich.
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Data rich, thank you.
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And you guys then
now decide to conduct
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another visually
stunning experiment
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involving drones,
but not just drones:
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smoke and all kinds of things.
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How did you set it up?
What were you looking to find?
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We're studying, as part of this,
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the-the apparent void
or the disruption
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in GPS signals
there at the triangle
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and the region
inside of the bubble.
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You know, there's something
special about that space.
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We've had RF, uh, devices
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and measurements disrupted
there at the triangle.
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We've had
mechanical interactions
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with our rocket platforms.
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And now, we're watching
pyrotechnic-equipped drones.
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They go up and form the, uh,
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sort of Christmas tree
formation.
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Also looking at what will happen
with the smoke itself.
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Almost like a-a bubble
when you're a kid,
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and those people
who make bubbles
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blow smoke inside the bubble.
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TRAVIS:
We-we often refer to this
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as, uh, throwing paint
on the invisible man.
284
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-I love it.
-TRAVIS: So this was
one of those experiments.
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We would get these drones
up there around the anomaly,
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they would fire off the pyro,
287
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and then we would see the smoke
hopefully fill in this bubble.
288
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And then we also thought
that it might show a path.
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That if we launched
a rocket through there,
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it would explain why
we continue to see rockets
291
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make strange maneuvers
in that location.
292
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Well, don't-don't forget the,
the numerous drone exercises
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that have resulted in,
in some cases,
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drones falling out of the sky,
malfunctioning.
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PRESTON: We are ready to go
on this end.
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Grid forming.
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THOMAS:
Whoa!
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Heads up! Heads up!
They're coming down!
299
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What the heck's going on?
300
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It's raining drones over here.
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Raining drones.
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TRAVIS:
Raining drones at the triangle.
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BRYANT:
We're raining drones here, too.
304
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TRAVIS:
We're raining drones here, too.
305
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We've had several fall,
we got several
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that are missing
out of the formation.
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Look at that!
308
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It's very suggestive
of some kind of interface,
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a very well-defined disruption
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inside of what we're
calling the bubble.
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I mean, even trying to get the
drones into the air this year,
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they had problems
getting them to connect up
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like they have in the past.
314
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And then, because of
the problems they were having,
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they used their software
that could tell them
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where all the satellites
are at up in the air,
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they can see all of it
and see the signals,
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and for some reason,
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they were not seeing
any satellites or-or anything.
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It was like
a big black hole of data.
321
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There's something going on
in that space.
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-Something is blocking the data.
-We-We've tried to put
everything into that spot.
323
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And, uh, even this experiment,
324
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the drones were supposed to go
directly over the launch pad.
325
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And we had extreme difficulty
making that happen.
326
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I'm glad you brought that up
327
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because I was
on the edge of my seat
328
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during that whole thing,
329
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during that whole thing,
330
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and I want to get
your thoughts on that
331
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because you were there
on the ground
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and you could see it.
333
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And we'll do that next.
334
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-Yeah.
-Sounds good.
335
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Every experiment
that this team conducts
336
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on Skinwalker Ranch yields
important new data.
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But as we saw
in tonight's episode,
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these experiments can also yield
wildly unexpected results.
339
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Gentlemen, you had a plan,
you executed it,
340
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and once again, things went
not quite as you had planned.
341
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and once again, things went
not quite as you had planned.
342
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Yeah.
343
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Yeah, initially,
we wanted to get
344
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this drone constellation
directly over the center
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of the triangle,
over the launch tower.
346
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THOMAS: Yeah, we wanted
to really make sure
347
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that we hit our target
and that...
348
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Well, it's gonna be critical
that we hit our target
349
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because we're shooting a rocket
up through the middle of it.
350
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And if we're off
even just a little bit,
351
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it could hit the drones
and damage
352
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both the rocket and the drones.
353
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Yeah. And-and that's not at all
what we saw, was it?
354
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That's cool.
355
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JAVER:
All right. Looks
like we are ready to go.
356
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The drones are over
the center of the triangle.
357
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THOMAS:
You ready to trigger it?
358
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Yep.
359
00:14:01,625 --> 00:14:03,458
We're gonna trigger
the pyro now.
360
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They're not over the triangle.
361
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Go ahead and hit.
362
00:14:13,958 --> 00:14:16,083
There goes the pyro,
363
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but they're not anywhere
near the triangle.
364
00:14:18,958 --> 00:14:22,042
Hey, Thomas.
They are not over the triangle.
365
00:14:22,208 --> 00:14:26,500
They're over the, uh, road
that goes into the south field.
366
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Not over the triangle at all.
367
00:14:29,250 --> 00:14:31,250
So on the map over here, Travis,
368
00:14:31,417 --> 00:14:34,458
it shows them right
over top of the launchpad.
369
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What in the world is going on?
370
00:14:37,833 --> 00:14:40,000
Kaleb and I were out there, uh,
371
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with the rocket and
Pete Kelsey also, right?
372
00:14:42,333 --> 00:14:45,000
Yeah. The idea was
I'd be there to help spot.
373
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Pete and I both look up, like,
"Dude, are you seeing this?"
374
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TRAVIS:
So the drones never made it
to the launch tower.
375
00:14:50,875 --> 00:14:52,417
They never made it over.
376
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They got close, maybe about
40 or 50 yards away.
377
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But they never went
to the center of the triangle.
378
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And you could see this
with your naked eyes,
379
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they were nowhere near
where they needed to be.
380
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Yet, you're being told
381
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by your instrumentation,
382
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that they're right
where they should've been.
383
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They, the, in fact,
we called on the radio,
384
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and-and
the Sky Elements guy said
385
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"It's right over
the-the GPS point."
386
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And we're standing
under it, looking up,
387
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saying, "No, it's not."
388
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MATTY:
So could that be
some sort of, I don't know,
389
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almost like when you see
a mirage
390
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and things are waving
inside that bubble?
391
00:15:24,208 --> 00:15:25,542
Could weird things be
being manipulated
392
00:15:25,708 --> 00:15:27,083
and that's what you're seeing?
393
00:15:27,250 --> 00:15:29,958
It's possible
that it's some sort of optical,
394
00:15:30,125 --> 00:15:33,292
uh, issue there,
an optical, uh, illusion.
395
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ERIK:
T-There's a key fact here.
396
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This was an outright mismatch.
A physical displacement.
397
00:15:39,708 --> 00:15:42,500
Again, not unlike
the things we've seen with GPS
398
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historically across the ranch,
399
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but especially at the triangle.
400
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-Mm.
-ERIK: It's almost
as if there's something stirring
401
00:15:49,083 --> 00:15:51,958
the space there,
or the GPS reception there
402
00:15:52,125 --> 00:15:53,917
at the, uh, at the triangle.
403
00:15:54,083 --> 00:15:55,667
MATTY:
And then so that-that bubble
might be causing
404
00:15:55,875 --> 00:15:57,917
this interference
or these anomalies?
405
00:15:58,125 --> 00:16:01,000
-Like a snow globe.
-And-and indeed it may account
for the optical effects.
406
00:16:01,125 --> 00:16:04,125
Again, another point
in your experimentation
407
00:16:04,292 --> 00:16:06,167
where it doesn't seem
outlandish to think,
408
00:16:06,292 --> 00:16:09,958
is the ranch actively
interacting with you
409
00:16:10,083 --> 00:16:11,333
and trying to stop
what you're doing,
410
00:16:11,500 --> 00:16:14,250
or to somehow misdirect
what you're doing?
411
00:16:14,417 --> 00:16:17,458
Yeah, are we dealing with
a nonhuman intelligence?
412
00:16:17,667 --> 00:16:19,958
ERIK:
Well, we're definitely
interacting with something
413
00:16:20,125 --> 00:16:21,667
that is quite complex.
414
00:16:21,875 --> 00:16:25,250
And it seems to respond
to our interaction with it.
415
00:16:25,458 --> 00:16:27,167
You know, that-that doesn't
necessarily mean
416
00:16:27,375 --> 00:16:28,500
it has to be intelligent.
417
00:16:28,708 --> 00:16:31,583
But sometimes, though, it seems
418
00:16:31,750 --> 00:16:34,417
very intuitive
in how it responds
419
00:16:34,542 --> 00:16:38,833
in-in-in a way that, that, uh,
hinders our-our original intent.
420
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And selective. Targeted.
421
00:16:40,417 --> 00:16:42,125
-Yeah. Very.
-Very targeted.
422
00:16:42,292 --> 00:16:43,875
ERIK:
Yeah, and another key
to this, that--
423
00:16:44,042 --> 00:16:45,083
and this is recurring--
424
00:16:45,250 --> 00:16:46,458
is that we very often see
425
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the emergence
of strange RF signals,
426
00:16:49,042 --> 00:16:51,000
strange energy showing up
during the experiments,
427
00:16:51,167 --> 00:16:53,167
as well as things in the sky,
428
00:16:53,250 --> 00:16:56,542
some of which
we've labeled as UAPs.
429
00:16:56,750 --> 00:16:58,875
Things in the sky, again.
430
00:16:59,042 --> 00:17:00,375
That's what I want
to talk about next.
431
00:17:00,583 --> 00:17:02,167
What are they?
What do you think they are?
432
00:17:02,333 --> 00:17:04,000
Why are they
interacting with you?
433
00:17:04,167 --> 00:17:06,000
Where are they coming from
and what's their purpose?
434
00:17:06,167 --> 00:17:07,667
Let's drill down on that next.
435
00:17:07,667 --> 00:17:09,000
-Good questions.
-Yeah.
-Yeah.
436
00:17:12,792 --> 00:17:15,000
What does cause this team's
scientific equipment to fail
437
00:17:15,167 --> 00:17:17,417
only when it's being used
on Skinwalker Ranch?
438
00:17:17,583 --> 00:17:19,208
And could the answer
to that question
439
00:17:19,375 --> 00:17:21,333
have been seen
in tonight's episode
440
00:17:21,500 --> 00:17:22,542
in the sky?
441
00:17:23,708 --> 00:17:25,167
UAPs.
442
00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:26,625
Again, you guys are trying
to get something done
443
00:17:26,625 --> 00:17:27,292
Again, you guys are trying
to get something done
444
00:17:27,458 --> 00:17:29,833
and we see anomalies in the sky.
445
00:17:30,042 --> 00:17:31,333
What are we thinking
about these?
446
00:17:31,542 --> 00:17:33,167
You know, honestly, Matty,
I think we're dealing
447
00:17:33,250 --> 00:17:36,042
with several, as you said,
different kinds of things.
448
00:17:36,208 --> 00:17:38,250
But one that really got
my attention is something
449
00:17:38,417 --> 00:17:41,500
apparently falling down, uh,
through that drone swarm.
450
00:17:41,708 --> 00:17:42,917
Definitely not a drone.
451
00:17:43,042 --> 00:17:44,792
ERIK: As-as best we can tell,
it's...
452
00:17:44,958 --> 00:17:46,833
All the drones were
accounted for.
453
00:17:47,042 --> 00:17:49,000
All of the pyrotechnics are
accounted for.
454
00:17:49,167 --> 00:17:50,167
-That was a key, a key point.
-That was, yep.
455
00:17:50,375 --> 00:17:52,917
TRAVIS:
And there was no material
456
00:17:53,042 --> 00:17:55,833
in that space
that-that could be falling.
457
00:17:56,042 --> 00:17:59,542
There was nothing on the drones
that could account for it.
458
00:17:59,708 --> 00:18:02,583
It wasn't an animal or an insect
or something like that.
459
00:18:02,708 --> 00:18:06,792
It-it was on the order
or scale of the drone size
460
00:18:06,958 --> 00:18:09,042
and it was completely black,
461
00:18:10,042 --> 00:18:12,083
And-and it came
down through the pyro,
462
00:18:12,250 --> 00:18:13,750
through the drone constellation.
463
00:18:13,958 --> 00:18:16,542
And we can't figure out
what it is.
464
00:18:16,750 --> 00:18:19,167
Well, one of the craziest
things that I remember is,
465
00:18:19,292 --> 00:18:21,167
you, Pete and I were
standing there,
466
00:18:21,375 --> 00:18:23,000
and we heard something
hit the ground.
467
00:18:23,208 --> 00:18:24,500
-You did?
-Yeah. We all did.
468
00:18:24,667 --> 00:18:25,917
And we all were like
"Did you hear that?"
469
00:18:26,083 --> 00:18:26,958
And we start looking
and that's--
470
00:18:27,125 --> 00:18:28,625
-We thought a drone fell.
-Yeah.
471
00:18:28,750 --> 00:18:30,417
-And nothing's there, obviously?
-KALEB: Nothing was there.
472
00:18:30,583 --> 00:18:31,958
We looked around and we came
back to Erik and was like,
473
00:18:32,042 --> 00:18:32,833
"Hey, is there
something in the footage
474
00:18:33,042 --> 00:18:33,958
that accounts for this?"
475
00:18:34,125 --> 00:18:35,458
MATTY:
Something else happened.
476
00:18:35,625 --> 00:18:37,875
Again, if I didn't see it
myself on these shows,
477
00:18:38,042 --> 00:18:39,250
it strains credulity,
478
00:18:39,417 --> 00:18:40,875
but you have a rocket
that seems to,
479
00:18:41,042 --> 00:18:42,000
for not the first time,
480
00:18:42,208 --> 00:18:43,833
disappear for a time.
481
00:18:44,042 --> 00:18:45,542
Where's it going?
What's happening?
482
00:18:45,708 --> 00:18:47,458
So, you know,
as we're launching rockets,
483
00:18:47,583 --> 00:18:49,667
there have been
a few instances, like this one,
484
00:18:49,875 --> 00:18:53,833
in which it disappears
for a time, and then reappears.
485
00:18:54,042 --> 00:18:55,250
Which, of course,
invites the question,
486
00:18:55,375 --> 00:18:56,833
"Where's the light going?"
Right?
487
00:18:57,042 --> 00:18:58,208
Is there something
obscuring our view
488
00:18:58,375 --> 00:19:00,167
from the cameras of the rocket.
489
00:19:00,625 --> 00:19:02,333
And Erik can tell you,
the-the rocket motors are
490
00:19:02,458 --> 00:19:04,208
extremely bright in the cameras.
491
00:19:04,375 --> 00:19:06,417
It'll saturate them out.
And so, it's not
492
00:19:06,625 --> 00:19:10,250
that there's not enough light
to stimulate the camera.
493
00:19:10,375 --> 00:19:13,833
Uh, what was there
that blocked the light between
494
00:19:13,958 --> 00:19:15,250
the rocket motor and the camera?
495
00:19:15,417 --> 00:19:17,417
Any one of these things
on its own could be
496
00:19:17,583 --> 00:19:19,167
some just unexplainable
anomaly, who cares?
497
00:19:19,375 --> 00:19:21,417
But it keeps happening
over and over again,
498
00:19:21,583 --> 00:19:22,958
now you got to pay attention.
499
00:19:23,125 --> 00:19:24,458
Once again, repeatability is
500
00:19:24,583 --> 00:19:27,167
one of the-the footholds
of the scientific method.
501
00:19:27,292 --> 00:19:30,000
And when we launch
a rocket that seems
502
00:19:30,208 --> 00:19:32,417
to vanish
at a certain region, you know,
503
00:19:32,583 --> 00:19:36,292
probably 50 to 300 feet,
somewhere in that area,
504
00:19:36,375 --> 00:19:39,042
uh, and that's not
the first time we've seen it,
505
00:19:39,208 --> 00:19:41,333
that-that tells us
there's something
506
00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:44,042
to this phenomenon, and we got
to figure out what that is.
507
00:19:44,208 --> 00:19:46,167
THOMAS:
If anything,
I leave this experiment
508
00:19:46,292 --> 00:19:49,042
just with, uh,
even more confirmation
509
00:19:49,167 --> 00:19:50,833
that there is absolutely
something there
510
00:19:51,042 --> 00:19:53,583
in the triangle that is real.
511
00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:56,000
Brandon, your team's
getting it done and then some.
512
00:19:56,125 --> 00:19:59,375
-Yeah.
-And the ranch is active
and then some.
513
00:19:59,542 --> 00:20:00,667
What's next?
514
00:20:00,833 --> 00:20:04,292
Well, what we've seen
above the ranch has taken
515
00:20:04,458 --> 00:20:07,792
many of us from being
skeptics to experiencers.
516
00:20:07,958 --> 00:20:10,833
-Mm.
-It's gonna be interesting,
as we probe the space
517
00:20:11,042 --> 00:20:12,875
above the ranch
to see if there are
518
00:20:13,083 --> 00:20:16,417
other interactions
or revelations
519
00:20:16,542 --> 00:20:19,000
that lie below
that give us a better hint
520
00:20:19,125 --> 00:20:20,750
at what is really happening.
521
00:20:20,917 --> 00:20:24,083
Matty, we're, we're,
we're creating an ocean
522
00:20:24,250 --> 00:20:26,333
-one raindrop at a time.
-MATTY: Ah. Well done.
523
00:20:26,542 --> 00:20:28,083
Congratulations, guys.
Incredible stuff.
524
00:20:28,208 --> 00:20:29,750
Do it again next week?
525
00:20:29,917 --> 00:20:30,833
-Sure.
-Yeah.
526
00:20:30,958 --> 00:20:31,708
-All right.
-You bet.
527
00:20:31,875 --> 00:20:33,500
Well, there you have it.
528
00:20:33,708 --> 00:20:35,917
No matter how high
or how low this team has to go,
529
00:20:36,042 --> 00:20:37,833
they will not stop
until they solve
530
00:20:37,958 --> 00:20:39,333
the secret of Skinwalker Ranch,
531
00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:41,500
even if they have
to smoke it out themselves.
532
00:20:41,667 --> 00:20:43,417
Thanks for watching,
we'll do it again next week,
533
00:20:43,542 --> 00:20:44,875
right here
from the command center.
534
00:20:45,042 --> 00:20:46,250
Have a good night.
535
00:20:46,417 --> 00:20:49,208
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