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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,592 --> 00:00:11,177 {\an8}What started as a Saturday morning 2 00:00:11,511 --> 00:00:13,054 {\an8}syndicated kids show... 3 00:00:13,388 --> 00:00:15,015 {\an8}♪ More than meets the eye ♪ 4 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:16,307 They did a beautiful job 5 00:00:16,641 --> 00:00:20,228 making a fairly rudimentary cartoon from the '80s 6 00:00:20,353 --> 00:00:21,604 that transforms 7 00:00:23,064 --> 00:00:25,025 into something that looks and feels real. 8 00:00:25,233 --> 00:00:27,360 and hit the big time in Hollywood. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,112 I'm sitting next to Steven Spielberg. 10 00:00:29,112 --> 00:00:30,655 My name is Optimus Prime. 11 00:00:30,655 --> 00:00:32,240 With a bold vision 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,284 from the most impatient director in Tinseltown. 13 00:00:34,701 --> 00:00:36,453 Guys, come on, let's stop admiring the truck. 14 00:00:36,578 --> 00:00:38,038 - Let's shoot. - But could the wild man... 15 00:00:38,163 --> 00:00:39,080 What the! 16 00:00:39,331 --> 00:00:42,334 There's nothing calm about working on a Michael Bay film. 17 00:00:42,459 --> 00:00:45,045 Michael Bay is completely ridiculous. 18 00:00:45,337 --> 00:00:48,214 ...herald a new era in movie-making? 19 00:00:48,340 --> 00:00:50,050 He likes to use old Hollywood tricks 20 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:51,968 as well as all the new stuff. 21 00:00:51,968 --> 00:00:54,596 The exploding stuff that made this new era 22 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:56,222 of Transformers a cultural event. 23 00:00:56,598 --> 00:01:00,185 People would show up with lawn chairs, coolers of beer-- 24 00:01:00,185 --> 00:01:01,519 And leave with singed eyebrows. 25 00:01:01,811 --> 00:01:04,230 The city of Chicago must hate us. 26 00:01:04,356 --> 00:01:06,983 An explosion here, an explosion there. 27 00:01:07,901 --> 00:01:10,195 "Does it bother you that I died in the first one?" 28 00:01:11,404 --> 00:01:12,614 And he said, "No, it really doesn't." 29 00:01:12,739 --> 00:01:15,075 Michael "Bay-hem" would lead his crew 30 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,242 through the fire and brimstone. 31 00:01:17,202 --> 00:01:18,203 An explosion here. 32 00:01:18,203 --> 00:01:19,746 Blowing up things left and right. 33 00:01:19,954 --> 00:01:21,456 Or implode trying. 34 00:01:21,581 --> 00:01:23,541 Shia had flipped his truck 35 00:01:23,667 --> 00:01:25,377 and he suddenly had a broken hand. 36 00:01:27,212 --> 00:01:30,215 It's fake, but it's still extremely dangerous. 37 00:02:03,748 --> 00:02:05,500 In August, 2007, 38 00:02:05,625 --> 00:02:08,586 Transformers hit the big screen 39 00:02:08,586 --> 00:02:11,798 for the first time since 1986. 40 00:02:11,798 --> 00:02:14,217 Megatron, is that you? 41 00:02:14,426 --> 00:02:15,427 Mega what? 42 00:02:15,427 --> 00:02:17,053 Hasbro had bet big 43 00:02:17,303 --> 00:02:19,723 on reviving this beloved franchise. 44 00:02:19,931 --> 00:02:23,184 And Steven Spielberg had put his faith 45 00:02:23,184 --> 00:02:26,146 in a director who thoroughly bombed 46 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:29,441 - The mother of all bombs - and exploded 47 00:02:30,859 --> 00:02:33,611 and generally just blew up stuff. 48 00:02:35,780 --> 00:02:38,658 And Transformers would be no exception. 49 00:02:38,658 --> 00:02:39,743 Everybody loved it. 50 00:02:39,743 --> 00:02:41,703 {\an8}All ages, male and female. 51 00:02:41,911 --> 00:02:43,413 Are you not surprised? 52 00:02:44,456 --> 00:02:45,749 {\an8}It's got heart. It's got fun. 53 00:02:45,749 --> 00:02:47,083 I bought a car. 54 00:02:47,083 --> 00:02:48,251 - The charm. - Turned out to be 55 00:02:48,251 --> 00:02:49,377 an alien robot. 56 00:02:49,502 --> 00:02:50,670 It's fast cars. 57 00:02:50,670 --> 00:02:54,549 {\an8}It's giant robots, guns, explosions. 58 00:02:54,549 --> 00:02:56,384 - And... - So, listen, I was wondering 59 00:02:56,509 --> 00:02:58,136 if I could ride you home. I mean-- 60 00:02:58,136 --> 00:03:00,430 Michael Bay's special kind of humor. 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,307 Michael loves those little jokes. 62 00:03:02,432 --> 00:03:03,600 Hey, hey! 63 00:03:03,725 --> 00:03:05,143 It's got everything. 64 00:03:05,143 --> 00:03:07,854 Did it have everything for everyone? 65 00:03:07,979 --> 00:03:10,690 Those kids who grew up playing with Transformers 66 00:03:10,815 --> 00:03:13,693 {\an8}- That's the base. - had now just grown up. 67 00:03:13,818 --> 00:03:17,197 And it seemed that for the most part, they were happy too. 68 00:03:18,698 --> 00:03:21,284 The first big transformation, I was like-- 69 00:03:21,576 --> 00:03:23,244 - Oh, God! - Oh my God, they did it! 70 00:03:23,411 --> 00:03:25,497 We are autonomous robotic organisms 71 00:03:25,497 --> 00:03:27,207 from the planet Cybertron. 72 00:03:27,374 --> 00:03:28,792 Like it was just such a relief. 73 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,294 A relief shared by Hasbro, 74 00:03:31,294 --> 00:03:34,714 the company who bet big on reviving Transformers. 75 00:03:34,839 --> 00:03:36,675 It's the first major toy brand 76 00:03:36,675 --> 00:03:38,510 {\an8}to get a movie that actually worked. 77 00:03:38,510 --> 00:03:41,930 And Hasbro had countless reasons to celebrate. 78 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:44,182 Hasbro's benefit from the movie 79 00:03:44,307 --> 00:03:47,268 was largely its expanded licensing opportunities. 80 00:03:47,435 --> 00:03:49,187 Comics, the Christmas ornaments, 81 00:03:49,312 --> 00:03:51,439 the sleeping bags, the cake pans. 82 00:03:51,439 --> 00:03:53,191 {\an8}I had the posters. 83 00:03:53,191 --> 00:03:54,859 {\an8}I had the curtains for Transformers, 84 00:03:54,859 --> 00:03:56,611 {\an8}my bedsheets were Transformers. 85 00:03:56,736 --> 00:03:59,572 All the things that come with a big franchise film. 86 00:03:59,906 --> 00:04:01,741 Including superstardom 87 00:04:01,741 --> 00:04:03,702 for the film's two young stars 88 00:04:03,702 --> 00:04:06,871 who were now thrust into the global spotlight. 89 00:04:06,871 --> 00:04:09,499 I don't know if you're ever prepared 90 00:04:09,499 --> 00:04:11,543 for public scrutiny. I don't know if that's something 91 00:04:11,543 --> 00:04:13,586 you can mentally prepare yourself for. 92 00:04:13,795 --> 00:04:15,588 You know, I saw Megan from the very beginning 93 00:04:15,714 --> 00:04:16,881 when she first sort of hit the scene. 94 00:04:16,881 --> 00:04:18,717 It was pretty interesting to see. 95 00:04:18,967 --> 00:04:21,219 I don't think anybody could have imagined 96 00:04:21,219 --> 00:04:24,180 like how much of a star she became so quickly 97 00:04:24,180 --> 00:04:26,474 and it was probably a difficult thing for her to handle. 98 00:04:26,599 --> 00:04:28,476 Just a regular high school kid, 99 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:31,604 with all of a sudden she assumed a lot of responsibility. 100 00:04:31,604 --> 00:04:33,606 But there'd be much more fame to come 101 00:04:33,732 --> 00:04:34,816 for these two. 102 00:04:34,941 --> 00:04:37,485 I get to wear a tie and some free shoes. 103 00:04:37,485 --> 00:04:38,570 You know? 104 00:04:38,570 --> 00:04:40,322 I mean, this is like a good life. 105 00:04:40,322 --> 00:04:44,951 And perhaps in some cases a little infamy. 106 00:04:44,951 --> 00:04:47,245 But for now, it seemed like destiny 107 00:04:47,245 --> 00:04:49,456 had big plans for Transformers. 108 00:04:49,581 --> 00:04:50,749 We knew by how well the first one did 109 00:04:50,749 --> 00:04:52,459 there was gonna be another one. 110 00:04:52,459 --> 00:04:54,753 I think all of us hoped that we were gonna be a part of it 111 00:04:54,753 --> 00:04:56,671 {\an8}Immediately after the first movie, 112 00:04:56,671 --> 00:04:58,798 {\an8}we had to start work on the second. 113 00:04:58,798 --> 00:05:03,261 Because with a budget of less than $150 million, 114 00:05:03,261 --> 00:05:07,515 Transformers raked in over 700 million at the box office. 115 00:05:07,724 --> 00:05:09,809 And Transformers' co-producer 116 00:05:09,809 --> 00:05:12,312 and distributor Paramount were eager 117 00:05:12,312 --> 00:05:14,272 to make a boatload of money. 118 00:05:14,272 --> 00:05:15,649 {\an8}And of course Paramount's going, 119 00:05:15,774 --> 00:05:17,359 {\an8}"Okay, we can make more money on this." 120 00:05:17,359 --> 00:05:18,568 Now let's get this show on the road. 121 00:05:18,568 --> 00:05:19,694 Whoa, whoa, no! 122 00:05:19,694 --> 00:05:21,446 {\an8}Sequels are rough. 123 00:05:21,446 --> 00:05:22,530 Tough act to follow. 124 00:05:22,697 --> 00:05:23,948 And not only that, 125 00:05:23,948 --> 00:05:26,868 Transformers had unleashed an arms race. 126 00:05:27,118 --> 00:05:28,495 My turn. 127 00:05:28,495 --> 00:05:30,497 John Favreau and all the Marvel guys, 128 00:05:30,622 --> 00:05:32,457 {\an8}when they first saw Transformers, 129 00:05:33,666 --> 00:05:36,461 when they realized "Iron Man" ws possible. 130 00:05:36,670 --> 00:05:38,672 That's the coolest thing I've ever seen. 131 00:05:38,797 --> 00:05:40,548 They could borrow on what we had learned 132 00:05:40,673 --> 00:05:43,301 for exterior hard suits 133 00:05:44,135 --> 00:05:45,678 and that's certainly what "Iron Man" was. 134 00:05:45,804 --> 00:05:47,055 It was a little bit 135 00:05:47,222 --> 00:05:49,474 {\an8}like a light bulb switched on for a lot of us. 136 00:05:49,474 --> 00:05:52,519 We had a way that it could be accomplished now. 137 00:05:52,644 --> 00:05:54,521 Suddenly, the wonderful wizardry 138 00:05:54,521 --> 00:05:56,272 of transforming Transformers 139 00:05:56,398 --> 00:05:58,858 was quickly becoming commonplace. 140 00:05:59,192 --> 00:06:01,736 Sometimes you gotta run before you can walk. 141 00:06:01,945 --> 00:06:03,905 The pressure was on the script writers 142 00:06:03,905 --> 00:06:05,740 of Transformers to find a way 143 00:06:05,740 --> 00:06:09,536 to make this movie stand out among the emerging crowd. 144 00:06:09,536 --> 00:06:11,871 {\an8}I can't understand why any writer would ever 145 00:06:11,871 --> 00:06:13,415 {\an8}want to do a sequel. 146 00:06:13,540 --> 00:06:15,542 You've got something that someone loves. 147 00:06:15,542 --> 00:06:17,502 You're probably looking at a trilogy. 148 00:06:17,502 --> 00:06:20,380 So the middle one, unless it's Empire Strikes Back, 149 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:22,549 is probably gonna be the worst one. 150 00:06:22,549 --> 00:06:25,343 Writers Alex Kurtzman and Robert Orci 151 00:06:25,343 --> 00:06:27,887 took a deep breath and took the plunge. 152 00:06:27,887 --> 00:06:30,890 However, little did anybody know-- 153 00:06:30,890 --> 00:06:32,559 The board of directors 154 00:06:32,559 --> 00:06:34,561 of the Writers Guild of America West 155 00:06:34,686 --> 00:06:36,730 have voted unanimously to call a strike. 156 00:06:36,855 --> 00:06:38,898 If you don't have writers, you're not gonna have a story. 157 00:06:39,107 --> 00:06:40,650 And if you don't have a story, 158 00:06:40,650 --> 00:06:43,028 you're definitely not gonna have a script. 159 00:06:43,028 --> 00:06:44,571 The script's the blueprint for a movie. 160 00:06:44,696 --> 00:06:46,072 Nobody else can start till you have it. 161 00:06:46,322 --> 00:06:50,452 The studios want these things to hit that summer window. 162 00:06:50,452 --> 00:06:53,079 Transformers Two was in big trouble. 163 00:06:53,204 --> 00:06:56,791 However, they did have two weeks until the strike began. 164 00:06:56,916 --> 00:07:00,420 And for Michael Bay, well, that was more than enough. 165 00:07:00,545 --> 00:07:02,464 Alex and Robert worked around the clock 166 00:07:02,464 --> 00:07:04,382 with help from Ehren Kruger. 167 00:07:04,382 --> 00:07:07,927 Three writers, two weeks and one Michael Bay. 168 00:07:08,053 --> 00:07:11,765 Michael wanted to up the game. 169 00:07:14,059 --> 00:07:15,643 Make it bigger. 170 00:07:15,643 --> 00:07:17,771 Bolder and wilder. 171 00:07:17,896 --> 00:07:19,939 Tuning up that robot carnage. 172 00:07:22,734 --> 00:07:24,986 Two weeks later, the writers handed in their work 173 00:07:25,111 --> 00:07:26,821 and the strike began. 174 00:07:26,821 --> 00:07:28,907 They crafted a working draft. 175 00:07:29,074 --> 00:07:30,492 A working draft? 176 00:07:30,492 --> 00:07:32,118 Hmm, that sounds promising. 177 00:07:32,118 --> 00:07:35,455 A 30-page scriptment right before the writer's strike. 178 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:39,709 A 30 page scriptment, not so promising, 179 00:07:39,709 --> 00:07:41,503 but it would have to do. 180 00:07:41,628 --> 00:07:42,712 With the clock ticking, 181 00:07:42,837 --> 00:07:45,799 many from the original Transformers film returned, 182 00:07:45,965 --> 00:07:47,926 like ILM's Scott Farrar 183 00:07:48,051 --> 00:07:50,095 and the art department's Ben Procter, 184 00:07:50,095 --> 00:07:54,015 and it seemed they'd have to start winging it. 185 00:07:54,015 --> 00:07:55,850 We introduced a whole bunch of new characters. 186 00:07:56,059 --> 00:07:58,520 - Including-- - Come on, Arcee, let's go! 187 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:01,981 We explored an Arcee design and really leaned 188 00:08:02,107 --> 00:08:03,650 {\an8}into the dismantled, 189 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:05,902 {\an8}deconstructed sort of silhouette aesthetic. 190 00:08:07,904 --> 00:08:10,156 The ultra dynamic female transformer. 191 00:08:10,156 --> 00:08:11,491 Soundwave... 192 00:08:12,784 --> 00:08:15,495 - Soundwave acknowledges. - ...got seen in a couple 193 00:08:15,495 --> 00:08:16,329 of different forms. 194 00:08:16,454 --> 00:08:18,873 I worked on a satellite version of him. 195 00:08:18,999 --> 00:08:20,959 He was able to latch onto other satellites 196 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:22,627 and kind of hack the signals. 197 00:08:22,627 --> 00:08:23,670 Bring in Sideswipe! 198 00:08:23,837 --> 00:08:25,004 Sideswipe. 199 00:08:26,089 --> 00:08:28,049 - Clear a path. - The Stingray, 200 00:08:28,383 --> 00:08:30,135 it was a concept vehicle. 201 00:08:30,135 --> 00:08:31,845 {\an8}When Michael Bay came to visit, 202 00:08:31,970 --> 00:08:33,555 {\an8}it just happened to be sitting there. 203 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:34,889 When he saw it, he lit up. 204 00:08:35,014 --> 00:08:36,933 Also joining the cast of Transformers. 205 00:08:36,933 --> 00:08:38,810 Are you warm enough to transform? 206 00:08:38,810 --> 00:08:41,187 I hope so. 207 00:08:41,479 --> 00:08:44,107 Jetfire was a SR71 Blackbird. 208 00:08:44,232 --> 00:08:45,817 It's the coolest vehicle ever. 209 00:08:45,817 --> 00:08:47,110 Little tough making an old, 210 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:49,029 rickety character out of the most heroic 211 00:08:49,154 --> 00:08:50,196 aircraft design ever. 212 00:08:50,196 --> 00:08:52,782 Ha-ha! Bugger it! 213 00:08:52,782 --> 00:08:54,951 But we realized that there were some cool opportunities there. 214 00:08:55,118 --> 00:08:58,038 Well, "opportunities" is one way of putting it. 215 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,708 Michael loves those little jokes 216 00:09:01,708 --> 00:09:03,251 Thanks to the lack of script, 217 00:09:03,376 --> 00:09:06,671 the freewheeling nature of this creative free for all 218 00:09:06,671 --> 00:09:09,090 led to some interesting places. 219 00:09:09,090 --> 00:09:10,759 Michael will have left field ideas, 220 00:09:10,759 --> 00:09:13,720 things that are not in the lore of Transformers at all, 221 00:09:13,845 --> 00:09:14,763 like The Fallen. 222 00:09:14,763 --> 00:09:16,890 We can destroy your cities. 223 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:18,725 You know, it was like, "He's like an Egyptian pharaoh!" 224 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:20,143 Where you're kinda like, huh? 225 00:09:20,143 --> 00:09:22,062 And you're like, "How are we gonna figure that out?" 226 00:09:22,062 --> 00:09:24,189 Paul Ozzimo worked on that and he did a great job 227 00:09:24,189 --> 00:09:26,900 figuring out how to create like a skeletal, 228 00:09:27,025 --> 00:09:28,777 very open frame kind of anatomy 229 00:09:29,027 --> 00:09:30,737 that surprisingly worked really well 230 00:09:30,862 --> 00:09:32,238 with the sort of massing of the head, 231 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:34,032 the sort of pharonic crown. 232 00:09:36,076 --> 00:09:39,204 And this spitball meant that the Transformers 2 233 00:09:39,204 --> 00:09:41,706 crew would be headed to Egypt. 234 00:09:41,706 --> 00:09:43,249 - Awesome. - Maybe. 235 00:09:43,249 --> 00:09:44,584 But more on that later. 236 00:09:44,876 --> 00:09:46,795 In the meantime, closer to home, 237 00:09:46,961 --> 00:09:48,838 as the writer's strike dragged on, 238 00:09:48,838 --> 00:09:52,092 Transformers 2 had a bunch of designs... 239 00:09:52,092 --> 00:09:54,761 - Damn I'm good. - ...no script... 240 00:09:54,886 --> 00:09:56,137 A 30 page scriptment... 241 00:09:56,262 --> 00:09:58,098 ...and some seemingly half-baked, 242 00:09:58,098 --> 00:09:59,933 very expensive ideas. 243 00:09:59,933 --> 00:10:01,267 He's like an Egyptian pharaoh. 244 00:10:01,518 --> 00:10:03,144 I'm out there during the strike, 245 00:10:03,269 --> 00:10:08,566 Bay was working on set pieces, the SR71 Jetfire character. 246 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:10,985 My boosters are fried now. 247 00:10:11,653 --> 00:10:13,822 But Michael Bay couldn't wait. 248 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:16,241 Transformers would begin shooting 249 00:10:16,241 --> 00:10:18,743 with or without a script. 250 00:10:21,746 --> 00:10:24,833 As the writer's strike continued in 2007, 251 00:10:25,208 --> 00:10:29,004 {\an8}new character designs for Transformers progressed. 252 00:10:29,129 --> 00:10:30,755 {\an8}And I went and saw the first film 253 00:10:30,755 --> 00:10:33,591 {\an8}and I just was blown away by it. I just was like, 254 00:10:33,591 --> 00:10:34,884 Okay, since they're gonna make a sequel 255 00:10:35,009 --> 00:10:36,594 to this movie. It's amazing. 256 00:10:36,594 --> 00:10:38,138 If I was making that film, I'd put Devastator in there. 257 00:10:40,765 --> 00:10:42,600 Transform! 258 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,687 Combining robots, you know, to make an even bigger one. 259 00:10:46,438 --> 00:10:47,939 Ah! - Ah, look at this mother-- 260 00:10:49,149 --> 00:10:51,443 It seemed to be quite the task. 261 00:10:51,609 --> 00:10:55,780 But Josh, working by himself for free, for fun, 262 00:10:55,780 --> 00:10:59,743 took things one step at a time, or at least one foot. 263 00:10:59,743 --> 00:11:02,662 So I was like, I'll just design a part of that. A Long Haul." 264 00:11:02,871 --> 00:11:04,456 I didn't join this outfit 265 00:11:04,456 --> 00:11:05,874 to be a dump truck! 266 00:11:05,999 --> 00:11:08,710 Josh Nizzi did an incredible Transformer design 267 00:11:08,710 --> 00:11:10,045 and then just put it on the internet. 268 00:11:10,170 --> 00:11:12,047 It was perfect. It was as if it came out 269 00:11:12,047 --> 00:11:13,548 of the Michael Bay Art Department. 270 00:11:13,715 --> 00:11:15,008 Then I got an email. 271 00:11:15,175 --> 00:11:16,801 I was like, "We need this guy!" 272 00:11:16,968 --> 00:11:18,845 You know, he was like, "I can guarantee 273 00:11:18,845 --> 00:11:20,430 maybe three weeks of work or something like that. 274 00:11:20,555 --> 00:11:21,639 But that's it." I was working 275 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:22,724 a full-time job. 276 00:11:22,724 --> 00:11:24,642 We had three kids, talked to my wife 277 00:11:24,642 --> 00:11:26,644 and we just felt like this kind of thing 278 00:11:26,644 --> 00:11:29,522 just doesn't happen and so quit my job. 279 00:11:29,522 --> 00:11:30,690 Oh, my God! 280 00:11:33,276 --> 00:11:35,028 Did work for the film. 281 00:11:35,028 --> 00:11:36,154 Long Haul-- 282 00:11:37,697 --> 00:11:39,783 I think he's, like, the back right foot. 283 00:11:42,327 --> 00:11:43,703 So that was pretty cool. 284 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:45,872 Nizzi was so good at that style, 285 00:11:45,872 --> 00:11:48,500 the producer of the film vouched for him 286 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:52,629 to get him in the union so that Michael Bay could hire him 287 00:11:52,629 --> 00:11:53,838 to do pre-production work. 288 00:11:53,963 --> 00:11:54,839 And it worked out great. 289 00:11:54,964 --> 00:11:57,008 The stuff that I was working on, they loved. 290 00:11:57,133 --> 00:11:59,094 He's done a lot of amazing designs, 291 00:11:59,094 --> 00:12:00,762 way beyond just one Constructicon. 292 00:12:03,014 --> 00:12:05,183 Transformers 2 started filming 293 00:12:05,350 --> 00:12:08,520 during the writer's strike, but that meant no script. 294 00:12:08,645 --> 00:12:10,021 {\an8}It was very much like we're getting ready 295 00:12:10,146 --> 00:12:12,607 {\an8}to build the building, where are the plans? 296 00:12:12,774 --> 00:12:15,193 But come on, let's not overreact here. 297 00:12:15,318 --> 00:12:18,780 Transformers was in the hands of Michael Bay 298 00:12:18,780 --> 00:12:20,949 and the great Steven Spielberg, 299 00:12:21,074 --> 00:12:24,744 who played a large part in nurturing this beloved franchise. 300 00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:28,748 I don't think he was involved in the second one as much. 301 00:12:28,873 --> 00:12:32,919 The first movie had a lot of people shepherding everybody. 302 00:12:33,044 --> 00:12:35,296 Once the first one was a success, 303 00:12:35,296 --> 00:12:37,048 you could use that as an excuse 304 00:12:37,048 --> 00:12:39,050 why I maybe don't need as many people. 305 00:12:39,175 --> 00:12:41,219 Success gave everybody permission 306 00:12:41,344 --> 00:12:43,888 to not pay as close to attention. 307 00:12:44,055 --> 00:12:46,975 Right, so no script and no Spielberg. 308 00:12:46,975 --> 00:12:48,143 Bay was on his own. 309 00:12:48,393 --> 00:12:50,937 At least all of the crew came back. 310 00:12:50,937 --> 00:12:53,273 Well, most of the crew. 311 00:12:53,273 --> 00:12:54,816 {\an8}I said no. 312 00:12:54,983 --> 00:12:56,026 {\an8}I didn't say no to him. 313 00:12:56,026 --> 00:12:57,318 {\an8}I said no to his producer. 314 00:12:57,527 --> 00:12:59,904 I never wanted to work on sequels. 315 00:12:59,904 --> 00:13:01,906 Producer called back a second time and said, 316 00:13:01,906 --> 00:13:04,617 "How could you be turning this down?" 317 00:13:04,617 --> 00:13:06,036 - Here's a clue. - Time to go. 318 00:13:06,161 --> 00:13:07,245 Go, go! Right now, right now! 319 00:13:07,579 --> 00:13:10,165 {\an8}There's nothing calm about working on a Michael Bay film. 320 00:13:10,165 --> 00:13:12,667 It's always a level of insanity. 321 00:13:12,792 --> 00:13:14,252 {\an8}It's just organized chaos. 322 00:13:14,252 --> 00:13:16,171 Come on, let's call it what it is. 323 00:13:16,296 --> 00:13:17,964 -"Bay-hem." - Some people can't take it. 324 00:13:18,089 --> 00:13:19,841 It was like, "I can never do that again. 325 00:13:19,841 --> 00:13:21,342 It was so abusive." And I'm like, 326 00:13:21,342 --> 00:13:23,011 "What? I don't understand. What was abusive? 327 00:13:23,011 --> 00:13:24,929 He's not like screaming at..." Well-- 328 00:13:24,929 --> 00:13:26,765 You're going the wrong way! The other way! Other way! 329 00:13:26,765 --> 00:13:28,600 But it's manageable. 330 00:13:28,725 --> 00:13:29,768 The biggest thing he said is, 331 00:13:30,101 --> 00:13:31,352 "You're fucking up my movie." 332 00:13:31,352 --> 00:13:33,563 And you just go, "Oh, fuck, okay." 333 00:13:33,730 --> 00:13:35,273 And finally, the cast. 334 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,360 Some even came back from the dead. 335 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,987 I was phoned about doing the sequel. 336 00:13:40,987 --> 00:13:42,614 Go! Move! 337 00:13:42,739 --> 00:13:44,115 {\an8}He goes, "It's Transformers, man. 338 00:13:44,115 --> 00:13:45,200 {\an8}And we're starting in two weeks. 339 00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:47,786 {\an8}Do you wanna be a part of it? Love working together." 340 00:13:47,786 --> 00:13:49,204 I said, "Well, I love working with you too, 341 00:13:49,204 --> 00:13:51,289 but does it in any way bother you 342 00:13:52,791 --> 00:13:54,209 that I died in the first one?" 343 00:13:54,209 --> 00:13:55,251 And he said, "No, it really doesn't. 344 00:13:55,377 --> 00:13:58,088 We're gonna change your name and change your rank." 345 00:13:58,213 --> 00:14:00,048 Oh, "Well, that'll fool 'em. 346 00:14:00,173 --> 00:14:02,050 So I'm gonna look just like I did in the previous?" 347 00:14:02,050 --> 00:14:04,386 He said, "You're gonna look exactly like that." 348 00:14:04,386 --> 00:14:06,221 If he doesn't care, then I don't care. 349 00:14:06,471 --> 00:14:09,099 We need to be ready to back him up if this thing goes hot. 350 00:14:09,474 --> 00:14:11,976 And, finally, the movie's stars. 351 00:14:12,102 --> 00:14:16,106 {\an8}I think Shia got a pay bump from $750,000 352 00:14:16,439 --> 00:14:18,900 {\an8}to I believe $5 million for the sequel. 353 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:23,863 But Megan's salary went from only $100,000 to $800,000. 354 00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:27,826 You can only wonder if making $4 million less 355 00:14:27,826 --> 00:14:30,245 than your co-star might make this-- 356 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:32,080 Can you quiet that whole laughing? 357 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,707 What the are you doing standing around? 358 00:14:33,707 --> 00:14:34,874 Cut that. Moving on. 359 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,292 You know, just a little bit 360 00:14:36,418 --> 00:14:38,253 harder to handle. Who knows? 361 00:14:38,378 --> 00:14:40,004 Look at the things I go through with you. 362 00:14:40,255 --> 00:14:44,175 With a cast, crew. and a $200 million budget, 363 00:14:44,175 --> 00:14:47,846 filming began on Transformers 2 with no script. 364 00:14:47,846 --> 00:14:49,931 {\an8}We started during the writer strike. 365 00:14:49,931 --> 00:14:51,850 {\an8}You know, we always had to make it up, 366 00:14:51,975 --> 00:14:53,226 {\an8}you know, as we go along. 367 00:14:53,226 --> 00:14:55,311 Pretty boring your first frame, Jacques. 368 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,313 But really for Michael Bay, 369 00:14:57,313 --> 00:14:59,274 it was business as usual. 370 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:02,777 {\an8}Michael commits so hard to having real pyrotechnics. 371 00:15:04,946 --> 00:15:05,947 Real stunts. 372 00:15:08,199 --> 00:15:10,243 Everything is all real. 373 00:15:11,703 --> 00:15:13,079 Explosion here. 374 00:15:13,413 --> 00:15:15,415 An explosion there. 375 00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:17,042 An explosion here. 376 00:15:17,167 --> 00:15:19,878 But then on February 12th, 2008, 377 00:15:19,878 --> 00:15:21,379 a bombshell announcement came 378 00:15:21,671 --> 00:15:23,423 from the Writer's Guild of America. 379 00:15:23,423 --> 00:15:27,844 The strike was over with just two months left of filming. 380 00:15:27,969 --> 00:15:29,929 {\an8}They had two months to finish the entire script. 381 00:15:30,055 --> 00:15:31,306 When the strike ended 382 00:15:31,431 --> 00:15:33,933 there wasn't a ton of room for adjustment. 383 00:15:34,142 --> 00:15:36,269 {\an8}I think they ratcheted down what they could, 384 00:15:36,269 --> 00:15:38,396 {\an8}but they had largely missed the boat. 385 00:15:38,396 --> 00:15:40,106 But still, at least the actors 386 00:15:40,106 --> 00:15:42,233 now had something to work from. 387 00:15:42,525 --> 00:15:43,777 There was a script. 388 00:15:43,777 --> 00:15:45,904 There was a suggestion of one. 389 00:15:46,196 --> 00:15:48,073 Spencer Garrett would play-- 390 00:15:48,073 --> 00:15:49,240 What was my character's name? 391 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,325 You didn't have a name. 392 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:51,326 Didn't have a name. Yeah. 393 00:15:51,451 --> 00:15:53,745 Not only did he not have a name, 394 00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:56,790 for this scene, he didn't even have lines. 395 00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:58,166 I was told to improvise. 396 00:15:58,333 --> 00:16:00,960 As we're walking, I used the phrase "Copy that." 397 00:16:01,169 --> 00:16:03,129 Michael called cut. I said, "What are you laughing at?" 398 00:16:03,129 --> 00:16:05,465 He's like, "Copy that? Who says that?" 399 00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:07,842 I said, "I'm just making up dialogue." 400 00:16:07,842 --> 00:16:09,761 And Michael Bay's like, "Don't say copy that." 401 00:16:09,886 --> 00:16:11,179 He said, "It's too trite." 402 00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:12,389 So, copy that. 403 00:16:12,514 --> 00:16:15,934 Well at least Michael Bay was a direct director, 404 00:16:15,934 --> 00:16:18,353 as Spencer discovered in yet another scene. 405 00:16:18,353 --> 00:16:20,146 Michael Bay said, 406 00:16:20,271 --> 00:16:23,274 "And I want you to be very small and very inner." 407 00:16:23,274 --> 00:16:26,027 And so I did that. 408 00:16:26,152 --> 00:16:30,490 And I remember hearing through a very loud megaphone, 409 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:31,449 "Goddamit, Spencer! 410 00:16:31,574 --> 00:16:34,035 I told you I wanted it to be big and loud!" 411 00:16:34,285 --> 00:16:35,829 It had been expressed to me 412 00:16:35,829 --> 00:16:37,831 in front of a couple of hundred people. 413 00:16:37,831 --> 00:16:40,417 So I was a little embarrassed. 414 00:16:40,417 --> 00:16:42,460 Meanwhile, the actors who actually 415 00:16:42,585 --> 00:16:44,796 did have lines to learn struggled 416 00:16:44,796 --> 00:16:46,047 to keep up with the rewrites. 417 00:16:46,047 --> 00:16:49,009 At my call time, they hand me my pages. 418 00:16:49,259 --> 00:16:51,010 We're shooting in 30 minutes. 419 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:53,805 I begin feverishly memorizing. 420 00:16:53,805 --> 00:16:56,433 And this poor little PA, from behind his back, 421 00:16:56,558 --> 00:16:58,393 he goes, "I'm so sorry. 422 00:16:59,394 --> 00:17:01,062 These are the new pages. 423 00:17:01,062 --> 00:17:02,814 We're shooting in five minutes." 424 00:17:03,106 --> 00:17:04,107 In spite of the Bay-hem, 425 00:17:04,441 --> 00:17:08,987 the rewrites and the improv, Transformers 2 moved ahead. 426 00:17:09,112 --> 00:17:11,406 But soon a catastrophic event 427 00:17:12,574 --> 00:17:15,160 would turn everything upside down. 428 00:17:15,285 --> 00:17:17,412 Shia had flipped his truck 429 00:17:17,412 --> 00:17:19,205 {\an8}and he suddenly had a broken hand. 430 00:17:20,332 --> 00:17:23,835 {\an8}There was a lot of drama, there was a lot of stuff going on. 431 00:17:26,379 --> 00:17:29,549 {\an8}In July of 2008, deep into production 432 00:17:29,549 --> 00:17:32,218 {\an8}of "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen," 433 00:17:32,344 --> 00:17:35,013 Shia was involved in a car accident in Los Angeles. 434 00:17:35,138 --> 00:17:36,890 {\an8}That's when his hand was messed up. 435 00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:38,475 Causing injuries to his hand 436 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,518 and requiring surgery. 437 00:17:40,518 --> 00:17:43,938 And this posed serious challenges for Michael Bay. 438 00:17:43,938 --> 00:17:46,149 {\an8}A film of that scope couldn't stop. 439 00:17:48,276 --> 00:17:50,945 So they made it look like he injured his hand 440 00:17:52,072 --> 00:17:54,949 in the transport to the desert. 441 00:17:55,116 --> 00:17:57,202 {\an8}And he soldiered on. - This is gonna work. 442 00:17:57,494 --> 00:17:59,871 If Shia's injury was a problem, 443 00:17:59,871 --> 00:18:02,123 worse awaited the crew as a result 444 00:18:02,123 --> 00:18:04,084 of Michael's earlier spitballing 445 00:18:04,376 --> 00:18:06,211 about the pharaoh Transformer. 446 00:18:06,336 --> 00:18:07,879 "He's like an Egyptian pharaoh." 447 00:18:07,879 --> 00:18:10,340 Because Bay and his team were off to Egypt. 448 00:18:12,258 --> 00:18:13,593 They went all the way to Egypt, 449 00:18:13,593 --> 00:18:15,387 all prepared to shoot the pyramids. 450 00:18:15,512 --> 00:18:19,015 {\an8}There was some rigmarole with the Egyptian government. 451 00:18:19,015 --> 00:18:21,267 {\an8}Somehow or another, they were pulling back 452 00:18:21,267 --> 00:18:23,019 {\an8}on the permits to go shoot. 453 00:18:23,144 --> 00:18:24,979 It's in army's airspace. 454 00:18:25,105 --> 00:18:27,023 And they would never give us permission. 455 00:18:27,148 --> 00:18:29,067 "Sorry. Army says no." 456 00:18:29,234 --> 00:18:31,403 Finally, negotiations got to a point 457 00:18:31,569 --> 00:18:33,530 where they allowed us to go shoot. 458 00:18:33,655 --> 00:18:35,281 There's only been movies to shoot here 459 00:18:35,281 --> 00:18:36,408 in the entire world. 460 00:18:36,533 --> 00:18:38,284 And that was just amazing. 461 00:18:38,493 --> 00:18:40,578 You know, you gotta be part of the landscape. 462 00:18:40,578 --> 00:18:44,124 But they did not let us go in the air during that time. 463 00:18:44,374 --> 00:18:47,043 We had to get aerial views to do certain shots. 464 00:18:47,043 --> 00:18:49,212 There's no other way to get that perspective 465 00:18:49,337 --> 00:18:50,630 Or was there? 466 00:18:50,755 --> 00:18:53,133 That's where Michael, he's very clever, 467 00:18:53,133 --> 00:18:55,009 he likes to use old Hollywood tricks 468 00:18:55,009 --> 00:18:56,386 as well as all the new stuff. 469 00:18:56,594 --> 00:18:58,388 Even though climbing the Great Pyramid 470 00:18:58,388 --> 00:19:00,015 is highly dangerous... 471 00:19:00,140 --> 00:19:01,307 Not on my watch. 472 00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:03,518 ...actor John Turturro got up... 473 00:19:03,643 --> 00:19:05,895 - Action. - He got up pretty far. 474 00:19:06,021 --> 00:19:08,064 - Keep going, man. - ...and down. 475 00:19:08,189 --> 00:19:12,027 Him actually climbing in the wide shots was done in Egypt. 476 00:19:12,193 --> 00:19:13,528 But all his closeups-- 477 00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:15,947 Where the hell are all our men? 478 00:19:16,197 --> 00:19:20,326 We built 10 blocks worth of a closeup area of the pyramid. 479 00:19:20,326 --> 00:19:22,287 And we shot all his closeups on that. 480 00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:25,123 - Yeah! Yeah! - You can't tell. 481 00:19:25,123 --> 00:19:27,208 It looks exactly like the same location. 482 00:19:27,208 --> 00:19:28,585 It was really cool. 483 00:19:28,585 --> 00:19:31,046 But with a no fly zone imposed, 484 00:19:31,046 --> 00:19:32,630 how did they get the aerials? 485 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:35,508 Because of Devastator climbing up on the pyramid, 486 00:19:35,633 --> 00:19:38,303 we virtually had to recreate the pyramid 487 00:19:38,303 --> 00:19:40,555 in a computer graphics form anyway, 488 00:19:40,555 --> 00:19:44,059 so that we could have the thousands of blocks be torn apart. 489 00:19:44,184 --> 00:19:46,436 All the aerials were computer graphics. 490 00:19:48,146 --> 00:19:49,898 The whole pyramid experience 491 00:19:49,898 --> 00:19:52,275 felt like the shoot was cursed. 492 00:19:52,275 --> 00:19:54,319 We packed everything up and went to Jordan. 493 00:19:54,569 --> 00:19:56,988 The Transformers team headed to Petra, 494 00:19:56,988 --> 00:19:58,656 yet another protected site. 495 00:19:58,656 --> 00:20:01,368 It's terribly difficult to get in and out of there. 496 00:20:01,618 --> 00:20:03,328 As a huge sci-fi fan, 497 00:20:03,328 --> 00:20:05,622 an uncredited actor on "Star Trek..." 498 00:20:05,789 --> 00:20:07,457 Just the person I wanted to see. 499 00:20:07,457 --> 00:20:09,959 {\an8}King Abdullah and the royal family 500 00:20:10,085 --> 00:20:12,504 rolled out the red carpet for the crew at Ad-Deir Temple. 501 00:20:12,504 --> 00:20:15,423 They allowed us to fly the helicopters in, 502 00:20:15,548 --> 00:20:18,301 to land and bring in equipment and crew. 503 00:20:18,426 --> 00:20:20,428 It was so cool they could shoot there. 504 00:20:20,428 --> 00:20:23,682 {\an8}Michael's amazing for the places that he gets in to shoot. 505 00:20:23,682 --> 00:20:26,142 While regulations in Egypt were clearly 506 00:20:26,142 --> 00:20:28,144 more mysterious than the pyramids, 507 00:20:28,269 --> 00:20:31,940 back home in the U.S. they were strictly observed, kind of. 508 00:20:32,065 --> 00:20:34,609 {\an8}We did the huge MOAB explosions. 509 00:20:34,818 --> 00:20:36,528 They call the bomb the MOAB bomb. 510 00:20:36,528 --> 00:20:38,029 I don't know why they call it-- Oh, mother of all bombs. 511 00:20:38,029 --> 00:20:39,280 That's what they call it. 512 00:20:39,447 --> 00:20:41,324 And of course the mother of all bombs... 513 00:20:41,324 --> 00:20:43,618 {\an8}These are real things that were exploding 514 00:20:43,618 --> 00:20:46,079 and those are real reactions. 515 00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:48,957 Comes with the mother of all risks to actors. 516 00:20:49,082 --> 00:20:51,418 You could feel like the collateral of these things. 517 00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:53,461 Who were warned not to fall over 518 00:20:53,461 --> 00:20:55,338 when running from explosions. 519 00:20:55,463 --> 00:20:57,132 They were setting up for the next shot 520 00:20:57,132 --> 00:20:58,758 just in case the wind didn't change 521 00:20:58,883 --> 00:21:02,470 and all of a sudden I felt the wind on the back of my head, 522 00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:05,390 which is blowing away from them. 523 00:21:05,390 --> 00:21:06,599 I said, "We gotta go now." 524 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:08,435 Three, two, one! 525 00:21:08,643 --> 00:21:09,769 "Now's the time." 526 00:21:14,399 --> 00:21:15,483 It was awesome. 527 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:24,075 It's fake, but it's still extremely dangerous 528 00:21:24,075 --> 00:21:26,036 if anyone was to go the wrong way. 529 00:21:26,411 --> 00:21:29,330 Just makes for a more authentic performance, 530 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:31,041 only because you have no other choice. 531 00:21:31,041 --> 00:21:32,625 I mean, this stuff is really going on around you. 532 00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:33,793 Incoming! 533 00:21:33,918 --> 00:21:36,671 The things that I've been able to see with my naked eyes 534 00:21:36,671 --> 00:21:40,091 on the set of Transformers is unbelievable. 535 00:21:40,425 --> 00:21:42,510 Mass destruction. 536 00:21:42,635 --> 00:21:44,471 Back in L.A. at ILM, 537 00:21:44,596 --> 00:21:46,598 there was a heat of a different kind. 538 00:21:46,598 --> 00:21:49,351 You start putting the actual film together. 539 00:21:49,476 --> 00:21:51,686 - Organized chaos. - We had a lot of trouble 540 00:21:51,811 --> 00:21:54,814 trying to organize the basic structure of the movie. 541 00:21:55,148 --> 00:21:57,108 The basic structure of the movie 542 00:21:57,108 --> 00:21:58,818 is partly up to the editor. 543 00:21:58,943 --> 00:22:02,030 Michael Bay had lost Glen Scantlebury. 544 00:22:02,030 --> 00:22:03,531 I said no. 545 00:22:03,531 --> 00:22:05,742 - Or had he? - I said yes. 546 00:22:05,867 --> 00:22:07,619 I was broke. 547 00:22:08,662 --> 00:22:12,123 Michael Bay convinced Glen to not only come back, 548 00:22:12,123 --> 00:22:14,501 but come back to work with him one-on-one 549 00:22:14,626 --> 00:22:16,127 at his house in Miami. 550 00:22:16,252 --> 00:22:17,796 So I was in the room a lot with him 551 00:22:18,004 --> 00:22:20,465 and he'd come flying in in one of his cars. 552 00:22:20,590 --> 00:22:22,634 If he was on the phone yelling to somebody 553 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:24,552 "Okay!" 554 00:22:24,719 --> 00:22:26,680 We knew the day was already fucked. 555 00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:28,682 Steam would be coming off of him, right? 556 00:22:28,682 --> 00:22:30,141 And you'd be going, "Oh, fuck." 557 00:22:30,141 --> 00:22:31,351 But it was tough. 558 00:22:31,351 --> 00:22:32,560 He is really tough. 559 00:22:33,728 --> 00:22:35,313 Just like the production, 560 00:22:35,313 --> 00:22:37,732 one machine had many complex moving parts. 561 00:22:37,899 --> 00:22:39,067 Devastator- 562 00:22:40,819 --> 00:22:44,280 Animating that, so many bits and pieces and parts. 563 00:22:44,531 --> 00:22:48,201 And was now coming to life inside the computers. 564 00:22:48,326 --> 00:22:49,327 That was a big deal. 565 00:22:50,620 --> 00:22:53,331 {\an8}I heard animating all those gears 566 00:22:53,456 --> 00:22:54,874 and levers and everything, 567 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,670 it shut down ILM's render farm for like a week. 568 00:22:58,670 --> 00:23:01,089 It's ridiculous how complicated that is. 569 00:23:01,214 --> 00:23:03,508 I don't wanna die! I don't wanna die! 570 00:23:03,508 --> 00:23:06,261 The person who rigged the robot for animation, 571 00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:08,179 {\an8}when she loaded Devastator, 572 00:23:08,179 --> 00:23:11,349 {\an8}literal smoke came out of her computer. 573 00:23:11,474 --> 00:23:13,768 Her computer really got fried by Devastator. 574 00:23:13,935 --> 00:23:17,522 It wasn't just the computer's CPU getting fried, 575 00:23:17,772 --> 00:23:21,901 Glen's was, and by extension so was Michael Bay's. 576 00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:23,528 You think you're done with a scene 577 00:23:23,653 --> 00:23:24,654 and before it's gonna get released, 578 00:23:24,654 --> 00:23:26,364 all of a sudden he has you back in 579 00:23:26,364 --> 00:23:28,867 and, you know, and you just have to totally recut. 580 00:23:29,075 --> 00:23:31,661 And with the film's premiere rapidly approaching, 581 00:23:31,661 --> 00:23:33,538 the pressure was mounting. 582 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:36,791 I got a world premiere tonight I gotta go to. 583 00:23:36,916 --> 00:23:40,587 And Michael Bay was actually working over satellite 584 00:23:40,587 --> 00:23:41,796 to continue editing. 585 00:23:41,963 --> 00:23:43,506 So can we hurry up and finish the movie 586 00:23:43,506 --> 00:23:46,176 so we can go to the world premiere? 587 00:23:46,301 --> 00:23:50,388 ILM always has had this saying of "On time and on budget." 588 00:23:50,513 --> 00:23:52,724 We've had some squeakers, there's no question about it. 589 00:23:52,849 --> 00:23:53,892 But in the end, 590 00:23:53,892 --> 00:23:56,311 they and the post team pulled it off 591 00:23:56,311 --> 00:23:58,772 and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen 592 00:23:58,772 --> 00:24:01,232 premiered in Tokyo in June of 2008. 593 00:24:02,692 --> 00:24:05,612 But this time, would the praise be universal? 594 00:24:05,779 --> 00:24:06,738 It's amazing. 595 00:24:06,738 --> 00:24:08,656 {\an8}I did see it. Yeah. I've seen it. 596 00:24:08,656 --> 00:24:09,866 {\an8}I've seen it a couple of times. 597 00:24:10,033 --> 00:24:12,285 ♪ I'm so excited ♪ 598 00:24:12,285 --> 00:24:13,411 I've got, you know, friends say, 599 00:24:13,578 --> 00:24:14,954 "Oh, I just can't get into that stuff." 600 00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:16,664 But I enjoy, you know, all the stuff. 601 00:24:19,834 --> 00:24:21,419 You know, it's a Transformer picture. 602 00:24:21,419 --> 00:24:22,504 They're all fun. 603 00:24:22,504 --> 00:24:24,506 It was panned by the critics. 604 00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:26,174 {\an8}But, you know, everybody knows 605 00:24:26,174 --> 00:24:27,592 {\an8}it's gonna do well in the box office. 606 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:29,928 Robots in disguise. 607 00:24:30,095 --> 00:24:31,763 But the public ate it up 608 00:24:31,930 --> 00:24:36,267 with a gross take of over $836 million 609 00:24:36,393 --> 00:24:37,852 at the global box office. 610 00:24:38,186 --> 00:24:40,271 It made a lot of money. 611 00:24:40,271 --> 00:24:42,774 So we might as well crank out a couple more. 612 00:24:46,111 --> 00:24:48,613 Optimus! 613 00:24:48,738 --> 00:24:50,365 The critics rolled their eyes, 614 00:24:50,490 --> 00:24:52,117 but the money rolled in 615 00:24:52,117 --> 00:24:53,743 for the first two Transformers movies. 616 00:24:54,035 --> 00:24:55,453 It's not over. 617 00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:57,205 So Paramount placed bets 618 00:24:57,455 --> 00:24:59,791 on a third installment with "Dark of the Moon." 619 00:24:59,791 --> 00:25:01,126 Your alien friends are in danger. 620 00:25:01,126 --> 00:25:02,377 You know the good ones, it's up to you. 621 00:25:02,377 --> 00:25:05,839 {\an8}To be released on July 1st, 2011. 622 00:25:05,839 --> 00:25:07,716 {\an8}You're gonna have that time stretch 623 00:25:07,716 --> 00:25:10,135 {\an8}between the second and third movies 624 00:25:10,135 --> 00:25:12,637 {\an8}where everyone's gonna say, "Oh, man, that sucked. 625 00:25:12,637 --> 00:25:14,305 {\an8}It's gone downhill, it's terrible." 626 00:25:14,639 --> 00:25:16,433 The disrespect on this rock is criminal. 627 00:25:16,725 --> 00:25:18,852 But right away there was a problem. 628 00:25:18,977 --> 00:25:21,396 Writers Kurtzman and Orci departed, 629 00:25:21,396 --> 00:25:24,816 leaving Ehren Kruger to take over development. 630 00:25:24,816 --> 00:25:26,526 But with his script in the works, 631 00:25:26,693 --> 00:25:30,739 Bay looked to assemble a cast as big as his ideas. 632 00:25:30,739 --> 00:25:33,533 Shia and John Turturro were locks 633 00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:36,578 and a host of other Hollywood heavyweights were lining up. 634 00:25:36,578 --> 00:25:39,414 Like any big film, they have the money to cast. 635 00:25:39,664 --> 00:25:41,750 He's the coolest guy ever. 636 00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:43,877 Even "Grey's Anatomy's" leading man- 637 00:25:44,002 --> 00:25:45,670 Stop looking at me like that. 638 00:25:45,837 --> 00:25:48,256 Was trading scrubs for explosions. 639 00:25:48,256 --> 00:25:49,466 Dempsey was great. 640 00:25:49,466 --> 00:25:50,884 Show a little respect 641 00:25:50,884 --> 00:25:52,761 when someone offers you a job! 642 00:25:52,761 --> 00:25:55,638 He's charmingly disgusting. 643 00:25:55,764 --> 00:25:58,725 But he wasn't the only pinup to sign up. 644 00:25:58,850 --> 00:26:01,227 Ah, shit I seen this one. Spock goes nuts. 645 00:26:01,227 --> 00:26:02,854 Leonard Nimoy returned 646 00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:04,773 Exterminate him! 647 00:26:04,773 --> 00:26:08,568 after 25 years as the voice of Sentinel Prime. 648 00:26:08,693 --> 00:26:11,321 It's our world now! 649 00:26:11,446 --> 00:26:12,906 McDormand, of course, is fantastic. 650 00:26:13,156 --> 00:26:15,200 Enough with the ma'am. Do I look like a ma'am? 651 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,911 - Ken Jeung. - Oh, shit! 652 00:26:18,078 --> 00:26:19,287 Alan Tudyk. 653 00:26:19,287 --> 00:26:21,456 Good job, Dutch. Danke schon. 654 00:26:21,456 --> 00:26:23,291 How far could casting go? 655 00:26:23,291 --> 00:26:24,876 - Sit. - Even the actor's 656 00:26:24,876 --> 00:26:26,961 - actor himself... - And Malkovich. 657 00:26:26,961 --> 00:26:29,673 - ...made an appearance. - Impress me. 658 00:26:29,673 --> 00:26:31,257 Oh, my God! 659 00:26:31,383 --> 00:26:32,425 Fucking awesome! 660 00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:34,260 These guys, they love Michael. 661 00:26:34,260 --> 00:26:35,637 Stare down, you and me. 662 00:26:35,637 --> 00:26:39,599 Michael lets them play in this gigantic sandbox 663 00:26:39,724 --> 00:26:41,434 and they give great performances 664 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:43,436 and I think they really add to the film. 665 00:26:43,436 --> 00:26:45,647 It's all very well having big names... 666 00:26:45,772 --> 00:26:47,732 What is it like working with the director Michael Bay, 667 00:26:47,857 --> 00:26:50,235 who from all accounts appears to be insane? 668 00:26:50,235 --> 00:26:52,237 But what if one of your biggest 669 00:26:52,362 --> 00:26:53,655 marched right into it... 670 00:26:55,740 --> 00:26:57,450 ...while promoting another film? 671 00:26:57,575 --> 00:27:00,495 He's infamous for being a sort of tyrant. 672 00:27:00,495 --> 00:27:01,663 She made a comment. 673 00:27:03,957 --> 00:27:05,250 She called him Hitler. 674 00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:06,418 The crew closed rank 675 00:27:06,543 --> 00:27:07,961 with an anonymous scathing 676 00:27:08,086 --> 00:27:10,380 and still unclaimed open letter 677 00:27:10,505 --> 00:27:14,300 published on the director's own website with his approval. 678 00:27:14,426 --> 00:27:16,970 Yet he made no comment himself. 679 00:27:17,095 --> 00:27:18,888 I think a lot of it was in the press. 680 00:27:19,180 --> 00:27:22,934 {\an8}I did not really see that, that she was difficult. 681 00:27:23,059 --> 00:27:24,644 You're such a little girl. 682 00:27:24,769 --> 00:27:26,938 I mean, it's hard to know exactly what Megan was thinking, 683 00:27:27,105 --> 00:27:29,274 but you have to wonder if you're the co-star 684 00:27:29,274 --> 00:27:30,817 of a couple hundred million dollar movie 685 00:27:30,942 --> 00:27:32,861 and you're getting paid considerably less 686 00:27:32,861 --> 00:27:34,904 than the male star-- 687 00:27:35,030 --> 00:27:36,448 I don't know. You have to wonder 688 00:27:36,448 --> 00:27:38,450 if it had an impact in all of this. 689 00:27:38,450 --> 00:27:40,452 There's nothing that you could have done. 690 00:27:40,618 --> 00:27:42,704 You know, when you sign on to a Michael Bay film 691 00:27:42,704 --> 00:27:47,542 for 120 plus days, you gotta be ready for it. 692 00:27:47,876 --> 00:27:50,378 Bay made a public statement on September 12th, 693 00:27:50,378 --> 00:27:52,505 distancing himself from the comments 694 00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:55,884 and said he was looking forward to having her back on set. 695 00:27:55,884 --> 00:27:57,761 - She was on. - However... 696 00:27:57,886 --> 00:27:59,387 Yeah, there was some kind of a thing. 697 00:27:59,637 --> 00:28:01,514 ...Spielberg saw trouble. 698 00:28:01,639 --> 00:28:02,891 And she left. 699 00:28:03,183 --> 00:28:05,727 It was 100% Spielberg's decision. 700 00:28:05,727 --> 00:28:09,397 {\an8}It wasn't Michael Bay not wanting to work with her again. 701 00:28:09,397 --> 00:28:11,066 {\an8}It was Spielberg saying, "Look, get rid of her." 702 00:28:11,316 --> 00:28:12,734 This, this is over. 703 00:28:12,901 --> 00:28:13,985 I liked Megan. 704 00:28:13,985 --> 00:28:16,029 I thought she did a good job, you know? 705 00:28:16,196 --> 00:28:17,405 {\an8}It's just the way it goes 706 00:28:17,530 --> 00:28:20,533 {\an8}with actors and directors. 707 00:28:20,867 --> 00:28:22,077 Losing the female lead 708 00:28:22,077 --> 00:28:23,787 could have been catastrophic. 709 00:28:23,787 --> 00:28:25,455 Now, who have we here? 710 00:28:25,580 --> 00:28:27,707 But Kruger simply rewrote the script. 711 00:28:27,707 --> 00:28:29,834 - Who are you? - Who are you? 712 00:28:29,959 --> 00:28:32,462 To get Sam a new girlfriend, Carly, 713 00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:34,923 handpicked by Michael Bay 714 00:28:34,923 --> 00:28:37,342 and played by Victoria's Secret model 715 00:28:37,467 --> 00:28:39,094 Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. 716 00:28:39,094 --> 00:28:41,429 Basically Megan had started 717 00:28:41,429 --> 00:28:43,473 and the part really was written for her. 718 00:28:43,848 --> 00:28:45,100 This is your new lucky bunny. 719 00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:47,435 So when Rosie came on, they just recalibrated 720 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,812 and reverse engineered for that. 721 00:28:48,937 --> 00:28:50,855 What if she dumps us like the last girl? 722 00:28:51,022 --> 00:28:52,023 Oh, she was mean. 723 00:28:52,148 --> 00:28:53,692 Carly was named 724 00:28:53,692 --> 00:28:55,860 after Spike Witwicky's girlfriend... 725 00:28:55,860 --> 00:28:57,070 Hurry, Spike, hurry. 726 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,740 ...in the Transformer's 1980s animated series. 727 00:29:00,740 --> 00:29:02,701 {\an8}Rosie Huntington-Whiteley was a lot of fun. 728 00:29:02,701 --> 00:29:04,619 {\an8}She was very sweet to work with. 729 00:29:04,869 --> 00:29:07,747 So did Megan ever speak to Michael Bay again? 730 00:29:07,747 --> 00:29:08,873 Yeah, we made up. 731 00:29:08,873 --> 00:29:10,750 {\an8}He cast her in "Ninja Turtles." 732 00:29:10,750 --> 00:29:12,669 Ninja mutant 733 00:29:13,753 --> 00:29:14,754 turtle. 734 00:29:14,754 --> 00:29:16,089 Which was a huge hit. 735 00:29:16,214 --> 00:29:17,966 - Oh. - So, obviously they didn't 736 00:29:17,966 --> 00:29:19,384 fall out too hard. 737 00:29:19,384 --> 00:29:21,469 I get invited to his Christmas parties. 738 00:29:21,469 --> 00:29:22,595 Nice! I love that! 739 00:29:22,721 --> 00:29:23,888 We're BFF. 740 00:29:24,013 --> 00:29:25,765 And with the cast locked, 741 00:29:25,765 --> 00:29:28,810 Bay set his sights to make Transformers bigger than ever. 742 00:29:28,810 --> 00:29:30,478 We need to get to the moon. 743 00:29:30,478 --> 00:29:33,314 And this time he was aiming for the stars. 744 00:29:33,314 --> 00:29:35,608 {\an8}I remember Bay being really excited about NASA stuff. 745 00:29:35,817 --> 00:29:37,110 The idea was to blend 746 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:39,404 Transformer fiction with reality. 747 00:29:39,529 --> 00:29:41,573 Apollo, moon, aliens. 748 00:29:41,740 --> 00:29:42,907 Or conspiracy theory, 749 00:29:42,907 --> 00:29:44,617 depending on who you talk to. 750 00:29:44,826 --> 00:29:47,078 Why do you think no one's been up there since 1972? 751 00:29:47,078 --> 00:29:48,830 The first moon landing. 752 00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:51,124 It's shocking how much freedom he had, 753 00:29:51,124 --> 00:29:52,500 {\an8}especially 'cause it was already the third film 754 00:29:52,625 --> 00:29:53,710 {\an8}in a massive franchise. 755 00:29:53,710 --> 00:29:55,962 {\an8}He had such grand ideas. 756 00:29:56,087 --> 00:29:57,756 Such as bringing to life... 757 00:29:57,756 --> 00:29:59,132 Sentinel Prime. 758 00:29:59,257 --> 00:30:00,800 ...from the dark of the moon. 759 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,053 We bid you return. 760 00:30:03,053 --> 00:30:07,015 Sentinel Prime, that storyline is largely in the lore 761 00:30:07,140 --> 00:30:11,019 where it's the previous leader and he's made some decisions 762 00:30:11,019 --> 00:30:12,687 where Optimus feels betrayed. 763 00:30:12,896 --> 00:30:14,773 A deal had to be made. 764 00:30:14,773 --> 00:30:15,982 With Sentinel Prime, 765 00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:19,152 {\an8}we knew that it wanted to be something in the general vein 766 00:30:19,152 --> 00:30:21,988 {\an8}of Optimus in the sense of overall body proportion. 767 00:30:23,656 --> 00:30:25,700 Using the firetruck, Optimus had also been 768 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:27,118 a firetruck at different times. 769 00:30:27,118 --> 00:30:29,663 Optimus Prime, transform! 770 00:30:29,913 --> 00:30:31,081 So in the fans' world, 771 00:30:31,331 --> 00:30:33,917 it definitely made them look like brothers. 772 00:30:33,917 --> 00:30:35,710 There will only be one! 773 00:30:35,835 --> 00:30:36,711 It was Dark of the Moon 774 00:30:36,836 --> 00:30:38,546 {\an8}and I think a lot of the themes were darker. 775 00:30:38,546 --> 00:30:41,216 I hereby discharge you from duty. 776 00:30:43,301 --> 00:30:45,011 The darkness really set in 777 00:30:45,136 --> 00:30:49,015 when ILM realized they needed more and more new robots- 778 00:30:49,015 --> 00:30:50,683 Is there a problem? 779 00:30:50,809 --> 00:30:51,976 I would say that Dark of the Moon 780 00:30:52,102 --> 00:30:55,230 was probably the biggest film I've ever done. 781 00:30:55,355 --> 00:30:58,441 And bigger, more spectacular effects. 782 00:30:59,401 --> 00:31:03,905 {\an8}We did the transformation with Sam inside the car. 783 00:31:06,491 --> 00:31:08,702 And he gets ejected in midair. 784 00:31:12,122 --> 00:31:15,750 And that said, "This is what our movie's gonna be like, 785 00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:17,627 how big it's gonna be." 786 00:31:18,586 --> 00:31:21,006 There are just moments that would be the third act 787 00:31:21,131 --> 00:31:22,424 in any other film 788 00:31:22,424 --> 00:31:24,926 and it's just one of the sequences in Michael's. 789 00:31:25,051 --> 00:31:27,679 Entire buildings would be torn apart. 790 00:31:29,639 --> 00:31:31,224 To Michael, that's just like this one scene 791 00:31:31,349 --> 00:31:33,059 that gets you to another one. 792 00:31:34,019 --> 00:31:36,855 I'm sure when the producers saw our previews, 793 00:31:36,855 --> 00:31:38,565 their heads kind of exploded. 794 00:31:39,733 --> 00:31:42,027 But I never heard them push back. 795 00:31:42,193 --> 00:31:43,737 Spielberg would just come in, 796 00:31:43,862 --> 00:31:45,613 sit down and be like, "Okay, let's see." 797 00:31:45,905 --> 00:31:47,574 And then Michael would be so proud of us. 798 00:31:47,741 --> 00:31:50,535 Big kids having fun, watching cool stuff happen. 799 00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:55,582 But on the set of the Dark of the Moon, 800 00:31:55,582 --> 00:31:57,625 real life caught up with the production 801 00:31:57,751 --> 00:32:02,797 in an incident that would knock the cast and crew sideways. 802 00:32:02,797 --> 00:32:04,090 One of those freak accidents. 803 00:32:04,215 --> 00:32:05,175 It was very sad. 804 00:32:09,095 --> 00:32:10,680 {\an8}In the first Transformers movie, 805 00:32:10,930 --> 00:32:12,515 it was aircraft carriers 806 00:32:12,515 --> 00:32:14,809 The president has dispatched battle groups 807 00:32:14,809 --> 00:32:16,519 to the Arabian Gulf and Yellow Sea. 808 00:32:16,895 --> 00:32:19,105 In the second, pyramids. 809 00:32:19,314 --> 00:32:21,733 The pyramid's built right over the machine. 810 00:32:21,733 --> 00:32:23,985 But where Michael Bay was going next 811 00:32:24,110 --> 00:32:25,737 was out of this world. 812 00:32:26,738 --> 00:32:28,573 In May of 2010, 813 00:32:28,573 --> 00:32:31,242 {\an8}filming began for Transformers: Dark of the Moon. 814 00:32:33,203 --> 00:32:37,123 Michael Bay's re-imagination of Apollo 11 meant real... 815 00:32:37,123 --> 00:32:39,125 Apollo 11 is on the way. 816 00:32:39,125 --> 00:32:41,628 ...and deep fake footage. 817 00:32:41,628 --> 00:32:43,630 We believe a UFO has crashed into the moon. 818 00:32:43,755 --> 00:32:45,507 {\an8}In Florida, at NASA, 819 00:32:45,632 --> 00:32:47,801 we went and we shot exactly where they 820 00:32:47,801 --> 00:32:49,886 land on the first moon in 1969. 821 00:32:52,222 --> 00:32:54,516 The actual controller room is still there. 822 00:32:54,641 --> 00:32:56,768 Neil, you are dark on the rock. 823 00:32:56,768 --> 00:32:58,812 While Michael Bay could only dream 824 00:32:58,937 --> 00:33:02,941 of filming on the moon, one actor had filmed it himself 825 00:33:02,941 --> 00:33:04,150 when he went there. 826 00:33:04,275 --> 00:33:06,277 - Dr. Buzz Aldrin. - Michael would still be 827 00:33:06,277 --> 00:33:07,737 bringing realism, though, 828 00:33:07,737 --> 00:33:10,240 as he decided this would be his first film 829 00:33:10,407 --> 00:33:12,283 to be shot in 3D. 830 00:33:12,283 --> 00:33:14,160 {\an8}This is all brand new to everybody. 831 00:33:14,452 --> 00:33:15,745 Very technical. 832 00:33:16,913 --> 00:33:18,915 We had problems in the very beginning. 833 00:33:18,915 --> 00:33:20,542 We were shooting on the moon set. 834 00:33:22,001 --> 00:33:24,838 Essentially two cameras recording the two eyes 835 00:33:24,838 --> 00:33:26,965 that are seeing the 3D. 836 00:33:26,965 --> 00:33:28,883 Ready and action, move it around. 837 00:33:29,009 --> 00:33:33,221 After the first day, one of the recording devices, 838 00:33:33,221 --> 00:33:36,141 something was messed up, it was not recording. 839 00:33:36,349 --> 00:33:37,976 So that was a panic mode. 840 00:33:38,101 --> 00:33:40,103 If it didn't get shot, you had to do it again. 841 00:33:40,103 --> 00:33:43,648 So, therefore, new mandates were put forth 842 00:33:43,648 --> 00:33:46,026 where every take will be checked 843 00:33:46,151 --> 00:33:47,986 to make sure the recording was there. 844 00:33:48,236 --> 00:33:50,280 Everyone was feeling the pressure, 845 00:33:50,405 --> 00:33:52,824 including Michael Bay and Shia LaBeouf. 846 00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:55,660 Shia and Bay would get into a full blowout argument 847 00:33:55,660 --> 00:33:57,871 over what music should be played on set. 848 00:33:57,996 --> 00:34:01,041 It may seem trivial, but they were hardcore about this. 849 00:34:01,333 --> 00:34:04,002 It is so expensive to shoot on location 850 00:34:04,002 --> 00:34:05,545 in front of a space shuttle. 851 00:34:05,795 --> 00:34:09,215 Time is money and that is a major, major problem. 852 00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:10,842 Thankfully for the film, 853 00:34:10,842 --> 00:34:12,385 they made up a few days later. 854 00:34:12,385 --> 00:34:16,556 But it doesn't matter if you're Michael Bay or anyone else. 855 00:34:16,681 --> 00:34:19,601 Shia LaBeouf can surely have a beef. 856 00:34:19,726 --> 00:34:22,270 {\an8}Reminding Josh Duhamel of when he first met 857 00:34:22,395 --> 00:34:24,272 his then rookie co-star-- 858 00:34:24,397 --> 00:34:25,899 He had so much confidence. 859 00:34:25,899 --> 00:34:27,776 Before Transformers 1. 860 00:34:27,901 --> 00:34:30,904 I met him for the first time and he had a black eye. 861 00:34:31,029 --> 00:34:32,781 He got in a fight the night before at a Dodger game 862 00:34:32,781 --> 00:34:36,159 and I was like, "Dude, we go to camera in like a day. 863 00:34:36,409 --> 00:34:37,952 You can't come to work with a black eye." 864 00:34:38,078 --> 00:34:40,288 He's like, "I know, but he deserved it, man. 865 00:34:40,288 --> 00:34:42,040 He comes talking all kinds of shit." 866 00:34:42,165 --> 00:34:45,627 I was like, "Okay, nice to meet you." 867 00:34:45,752 --> 00:34:47,253 With the tension between Shia LaBeouf 868 00:34:47,253 --> 00:34:51,883 and Michael Bay now resolved, the team headed to Chicago. 869 00:34:51,883 --> 00:34:53,259 To close down Michigan Avenue is a big deal. 870 00:34:53,385 --> 00:34:54,803 That's a main artery. 871 00:34:54,928 --> 00:34:56,638 I just kept thinking, "Oh, man, 872 00:34:56,638 --> 00:34:58,681 the city of Chicago must hate us." 873 00:34:58,890 --> 00:35:01,768 This whole street just looked like Armageddon. 874 00:35:03,436 --> 00:35:06,106 {\an8}They just had rubble and stuff everywhere. 875 00:35:06,106 --> 00:35:08,316 But Josh was just running around on the ground. 876 00:35:08,650 --> 00:35:09,484 Explosions are going off. 877 00:35:09,818 --> 00:35:14,030 Chopper pilot David Nowell was above it all. 878 00:35:14,155 --> 00:35:16,616 Once we got up into the city, we were right at the top. 879 00:35:16,616 --> 00:35:17,992 We were flying through the buildings and stuff 880 00:35:17,992 --> 00:35:19,911 that nobody else ever has the chance to do. 881 00:35:19,911 --> 00:35:21,287 It was a lot of fun. 882 00:35:21,496 --> 00:35:23,331 From a seat in his helicopter, 883 00:35:23,456 --> 00:35:26,793 David saw just how far the physical effects team 884 00:35:26,918 --> 00:35:28,420 could push their craft. 885 00:35:31,923 --> 00:35:33,967 There's the bombardment of all the buildings 886 00:35:38,096 --> 00:35:41,099 The physical effects guys actually got permission 887 00:35:41,099 --> 00:35:44,978 to put explosions way up in the top of the skyscrapers. 888 00:35:46,229 --> 00:35:48,398 {\an8}Huge sparking devices. 889 00:35:49,983 --> 00:35:52,402 Oh, man, we were blowing up things left and right. 890 00:35:54,070 --> 00:35:55,447 So that stuff is real. 891 00:35:55,572 --> 00:35:57,115 It's pretty spectacular. 892 00:35:59,409 --> 00:36:02,162 Mass destruction. 893 00:36:02,162 --> 00:36:04,706 All this may have looked spectacular, 894 00:36:04,706 --> 00:36:07,876 but the sound was really setting off alarm bells. 895 00:36:08,001 --> 00:36:10,295 The fire department said, "Don't break any windows." 896 00:36:11,963 --> 00:36:14,340 We went through all of Chicago, blowing up things. 897 00:36:16,176 --> 00:36:19,054 We ripped Chicago apart. 898 00:36:19,054 --> 00:36:21,473 And on the last day I broke a window. 899 00:36:21,681 --> 00:36:22,932 Oh, this one? 900 00:36:22,932 --> 00:36:24,893 No, that's a stunt window. 901 00:36:24,893 --> 00:36:25,894 Bay goes up to me, he goes, 902 00:36:25,894 --> 00:36:28,313 "All those windows are from the '30s and '20s, 903 00:36:28,313 --> 00:36:30,482 and they were loose in the pane. 904 00:36:30,482 --> 00:36:31,983 That really wasn't your fault." 905 00:36:32,275 --> 00:36:35,362 So he didn't get mad at me. 906 00:36:35,362 --> 00:36:37,197 Transformers was the biggest thing 907 00:36:37,489 --> 00:36:39,908 Chicagoans had seen since The Blues Brothers. 908 00:36:42,035 --> 00:36:45,080 I remember people would show up in the morning 909 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,874 with lawn chairs, coolers of beer, 910 00:36:47,874 --> 00:36:49,250 and they would just sit and watch the explosions. 911 00:36:51,002 --> 00:36:52,212 And then I'd look up 912 00:36:52,212 --> 00:36:54,047 and nobody was working in these skyscrapers. 913 00:36:54,172 --> 00:36:55,465 Everybody was just like faces 914 00:36:55,465 --> 00:36:57,884 pressed against the window just watching. 915 00:36:58,093 --> 00:37:00,011 Thank you, everybody! Go watch the movie! 916 00:37:00,011 --> 00:37:01,429 Everybody wanted to see it. 917 00:37:01,554 --> 00:37:03,264 While onlookers were watching the ground, 918 00:37:03,264 --> 00:37:06,851 they soon focused their eyes to the sky. 919 00:37:06,851 --> 00:37:09,229 The guys jumping, wearing the squirrel suits. 920 00:37:10,021 --> 00:37:12,148 These are all guys that do this for fun. 921 00:37:13,191 --> 00:37:14,234 They're not even stunt guys. 922 00:37:15,235 --> 00:37:16,486 They'd been on 60 Minutes. 923 00:37:16,653 --> 00:37:19,197 As close to flying as you can get. 924 00:37:19,322 --> 00:37:21,074 When Michael saw that, he said, "Oh, my gosh, 925 00:37:21,074 --> 00:37:22,450 we gotta get these guys in the movie." 926 00:37:22,826 --> 00:37:24,369 Flying through the buildings 927 00:37:24,369 --> 00:37:27,956 or past the buildings, that's real. 928 00:37:28,081 --> 00:37:32,210 There are some animated shots where it's not real guys 929 00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:35,213 that barely make it through little holes and stuff, 930 00:37:35,213 --> 00:37:37,132 but it's pretty fantastic. 931 00:37:37,298 --> 00:37:39,384 They wanted big stunts 932 00:37:40,343 --> 00:37:41,845 and real explosions. 933 00:37:42,804 --> 00:37:46,016 But one day, when a simple steel cable snapped, 934 00:37:46,391 --> 00:37:47,976 tragedy followed. 935 00:37:48,101 --> 00:37:50,270 The thing broke and it whipped across the other side 936 00:37:50,270 --> 00:37:52,063 of the freeway and hit the girl. 937 00:37:52,063 --> 00:37:55,817 Striking 24-year-old extra Gabriela Cedillo 938 00:37:55,942 --> 00:37:57,068 on the side of her head. 939 00:37:57,068 --> 00:37:59,821 It was an unfortunate mishap. 940 00:37:59,821 --> 00:38:01,364 One of those freak accidents 941 00:38:01,489 --> 00:38:03,199 that you hope that you can avoid. 942 00:38:03,450 --> 00:38:06,077 Gabriela was airlifted to the hospital. 943 00:38:06,202 --> 00:38:08,496 She survived but lost a large part 944 00:38:08,621 --> 00:38:10,206 of her cognitive function. 945 00:38:10,331 --> 00:38:13,001 It was just a girl that worked at a bank as a teller 946 00:38:13,001 --> 00:38:14,502 that answered the call to come out 947 00:38:14,502 --> 00:38:17,005 and be in one of the cars one day. 948 00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:20,592 It was a weld that broke and the man who did the work 949 00:38:20,592 --> 00:38:22,177 felt absolutely terrible. 950 00:38:22,302 --> 00:38:24,137 It was very sad. 951 00:38:24,304 --> 00:38:26,347 Cedillo's family sued Paramount 952 00:38:26,347 --> 00:38:28,308 and Dreamworks for damages. 953 00:38:28,308 --> 00:38:30,602 {\an8}Things happen. There's always accidents on films. 954 00:38:30,602 --> 00:38:32,187 {\an8}And nobody's fault, 955 00:38:32,187 --> 00:38:34,272 {\an8}it was just the freakest of freakest accidents. 956 00:38:34,272 --> 00:38:36,232 It's just like an accident happening on the freeway. 957 00:38:36,441 --> 00:38:37,817 An out of court settlement 958 00:38:37,942 --> 00:38:41,321 of $18.5 million was arranged. 959 00:38:41,321 --> 00:38:44,824 You know, we're all hoping for the best for her 960 00:38:44,991 --> 00:38:47,952 and it was bad and it was released as an accident 961 00:38:48,078 --> 00:38:49,537 and not criminal. 962 00:38:50,330 --> 00:38:52,457 But with only nine months till release, 963 00:38:52,457 --> 00:38:54,584 {\an8}the crew had to press on. 964 00:38:58,797 --> 00:39:00,965 With filming wrapped on of the Moon 965 00:39:01,132 --> 00:39:03,218 - We gotta move! - post-production effects 966 00:39:03,343 --> 00:39:06,304 were now in the transformative hands of ILM. 967 00:39:07,472 --> 00:39:09,391 {\an8}The first movie, were their cheats? 968 00:39:09,516 --> 00:39:10,517 {\an8}Yes, there were. 969 00:39:10,517 --> 00:39:14,062 By now, everyone knew cinema tricks 970 00:39:14,062 --> 00:39:15,855 wouldn't cut it with the fans. 971 00:39:15,855 --> 00:39:18,024 If something had to swivel into something else 972 00:39:18,024 --> 00:39:19,234 and it got a little bit complicated-- 973 00:39:21,403 --> 00:39:24,906 It might go behind the character and then change back there. 974 00:39:25,073 --> 00:39:26,157 {\an8}It's either too fast- 975 00:39:28,076 --> 00:39:29,994 Or you'd get it in cuts and pieces 976 00:39:29,994 --> 00:39:31,287 or you don't get it at all. 977 00:39:31,538 --> 00:39:33,498 Everyone said it's Transformers. 978 00:39:37,043 --> 00:39:40,839 {\an8}We have to see them transform. 979 00:39:40,839 --> 00:39:42,841 But it wasn't just robots. 980 00:39:42,841 --> 00:39:47,387 Now, ILM had the huge canvas of Chicago to paint on. 981 00:39:47,512 --> 00:39:48,972 I shot a lot of aerials 982 00:39:48,972 --> 00:39:52,100 and we shot a lot of locations up high on buildings. 983 00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:54,185 But then, of course, the ships have to be added 984 00:39:54,185 --> 00:39:56,312 and all the smoke in the air and all the rest of it. 985 00:39:58,940 --> 00:40:01,109 You got great action with the actors. 986 00:40:02,861 --> 00:40:05,322 Things going on with stunt vehicles. 987 00:40:06,906 --> 00:40:09,117 Whatever you could do for the backdrop, 988 00:40:10,952 --> 00:40:11,953 we're gonna add work. 989 00:40:12,829 --> 00:40:15,832 It all made it just look much, much better. 990 00:40:15,832 --> 00:40:18,460 As the ILM creatives were pushing boundaries 991 00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:20,045 in the Transformers universe 992 00:40:20,170 --> 00:40:22,255 like they've done on the first Transformers, 993 00:40:22,380 --> 00:40:26,176 a different cinematic universe was taking notes. 994 00:40:26,176 --> 00:40:28,136 - How do we do this? - As a team. 995 00:40:28,136 --> 00:40:29,971 {\an8}The Avengers movie hadn't happened. 996 00:40:29,971 --> 00:40:31,431 And was it a coincidence 997 00:40:31,765 --> 00:40:34,392 that the Transformers' battle in Chicago... 998 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,395 {\an8}Well, we came first, right? 999 00:40:37,395 --> 00:40:39,064 {\an8}- Yeah. - Yeah. 1000 00:40:39,064 --> 00:40:41,441 Seemed more than slightly similar 1001 00:40:41,441 --> 00:40:44,152 to The Avengers' climactic battle in New York 1002 00:40:44,152 --> 00:40:45,987 released only a year later. 1003 00:40:46,321 --> 00:40:48,239 This all seems horrible. 1004 00:40:59,334 --> 00:41:00,460 Anybody can answer. 1005 00:41:00,794 --> 00:41:02,170 Autobots, attack! 1006 00:41:04,422 --> 00:41:06,341 Hmm. Well-- 1007 00:41:06,341 --> 00:41:07,550 Oh, well. 1008 00:41:08,218 --> 00:41:10,095 All right, good job guys. 1009 00:41:10,428 --> 00:41:12,847 So no definitive proof either way. 1010 00:41:13,014 --> 00:41:14,182 You fought bravely. 1011 00:41:14,307 --> 00:41:17,977 Transformers is rich with visual information. 1012 00:41:17,977 --> 00:41:20,188 So there's a lot of stuff that's in there 1013 00:41:20,188 --> 00:41:23,233 that I'm sure people could want to copy. 1014 00:41:23,233 --> 00:41:24,442 So I was on both of those. 1015 00:41:24,567 --> 00:41:26,027 You know, we try to keep it pretty separate. 1016 00:41:26,027 --> 00:41:27,487 {\an8}It would be luck of the draw 1017 00:41:27,612 --> 00:41:29,239 {\an8}that the creative happened to go that way. 1018 00:41:29,489 --> 00:41:31,574 Whatever happened, Dark of the Moon, 1019 00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:33,451 put Paramount over the moon. 1020 00:41:33,451 --> 00:41:36,287 I just can't tell you how proud we all are. 1021 00:41:36,287 --> 00:41:39,040 Not only was it well-received by fans... 1022 00:41:39,207 --> 00:41:41,334 I think that's listed as one of the fan favorites. 1023 00:41:41,334 --> 00:41:42,419 It's right up there. 1024 00:41:42,544 --> 00:41:45,005 ...and despite all the explosions... 1025 00:41:45,255 --> 00:41:48,216 - Mass destruction. - people falling from the sky... 1026 00:41:48,341 --> 00:41:51,136 - They're not even stunt guys. - and general mayhem... 1027 00:41:51,302 --> 00:41:53,054 - Bay-hem. - That's right. 1028 00:41:53,054 --> 00:41:55,306 {\an8}It grossed a billion dollars, 1029 00:41:55,432 --> 00:41:58,184 {\an8}making it the fifth highest-grossing movie 1030 00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:59,602 {\an8}in history at the time. 1031 00:41:59,811 --> 00:42:02,981 {\an8}I think it is my one of my favorite for sure. Yeah. 1032 00:42:03,106 --> 00:42:05,150 {\an8}I think it's the one that is the best put together. 1033 00:42:05,317 --> 00:42:07,152 I love Three. It's fantastic. 1034 00:42:07,152 --> 00:42:09,529 And actually I had this argument with someone the other day 1035 00:42:09,529 --> 00:42:11,322 because they're like, "Three, really?" 1036 00:42:11,322 --> 00:42:14,492 I will overlook your condescending tone. 1037 00:42:14,617 --> 00:42:15,660 Like, "Yes!" 1038 00:42:17,370 --> 00:42:19,539 How dare you disagree with me. 1039 00:42:19,664 --> 00:42:21,708 And speaking of disagreement... 1040 00:42:21,708 --> 00:42:23,001 Gunship's on station! 1041 00:42:23,126 --> 00:42:24,210 {\an8}When it came to 1042 00:42:24,335 --> 00:42:26,338 {\an8}Spencer's minor disagreement with Bay-- 1043 00:42:26,338 --> 00:42:27,964 {\an8}"Goddamit, Spencer! 1044 00:42:27,964 --> 00:42:30,175 {\an8}I told you I wanted it to be big and loud!" 1045 00:42:30,175 --> 00:42:31,551 It had been expressed to me 1046 00:42:31,551 --> 00:42:33,595 in front of a couple of hundred people, 1047 00:42:33,595 --> 00:42:35,680 so I was a little embarrassed 1048 00:42:36,681 --> 00:42:38,600 by that style of directing. 1049 00:42:38,725 --> 00:42:40,018 - You understand me? - Yes, sir. 1050 00:42:40,018 --> 00:42:41,102 All right. Am I very clear? 1051 00:42:41,227 --> 00:42:42,353 - Yeah. - Good! 1052 00:42:42,353 --> 00:42:45,065 Years later, I ran into him and he said, 1053 00:42:45,065 --> 00:42:46,358 "I was having a really bad day 1054 00:42:46,358 --> 00:42:48,943 and I was not great to you that day, was I?" 1055 00:42:48,943 --> 00:42:51,613 And I said, "No, not really." 1056 00:42:51,613 --> 00:42:53,615 And he said, "Well, I'm sorry." And that was it. 1057 00:42:53,782 --> 00:42:56,534 And so it was a nice kind of full circle moment. 1058 00:42:56,701 --> 00:42:58,495 An apology from the director? 1059 00:42:58,620 --> 00:43:00,288 Could anyone top that? 1060 00:43:00,288 --> 00:43:02,624 {\an8}He said, "I just got off the phone with Steven Spielberg. 1061 00:43:02,624 --> 00:43:04,334 {\an8}We would like you to be the mascot 1062 00:43:04,459 --> 00:43:07,212 {\an8}for the Transformers Ride at Universal Studios." 1063 00:43:07,212 --> 00:43:09,297 That would be Autobot evac. 1064 00:43:09,631 --> 00:43:12,634 "And we'd like to sign you to a 25 year contract." 1065 00:43:13,718 --> 00:43:15,720 "I'm sorry. How many years?" 1066 00:43:15,845 --> 00:43:18,056 But the ride was not over. 1067 00:43:18,056 --> 00:43:21,017 Paramount announced two more films. 1068 00:43:21,142 --> 00:43:23,186 We ain't going nowhere. 1069 00:43:23,186 --> 00:43:25,730 The franchise was charging ahead, 1070 00:43:25,730 --> 00:43:27,440 but despite the good news... 1071 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,650 Nobody wanted to make a change. 1072 00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:32,654 For Transformers, change was on the horizon. 1073 00:43:32,654 --> 00:43:35,031 I think we just found a Transformer. 81630

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