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Transformers.
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The toy that unfolded
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before the world...
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♪ Transformers ♪
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♪ Robots in disguise ♪
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...had tied itself into
knots. Expanding into TV.
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The ratings were terrible.
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An animated movie.
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Halfway through the
movie, every kid starts
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screaming and crying.
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It bombed, financially.
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And a whole
new spin-off ecosystem.
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- Robots in disguise.
- We knew it was over.
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So the
iconic Hasbro franchise
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set its metal sites on
Hollywood.
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Gotta start thinking about
how to transform these things.
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It was a very skeptical
audience.
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All right. That's enough. That's
enough.
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But the
transformation
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from script to
screen
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I woke up at two o'clock in
the morning
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and screamed, which one's the
jet?
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Through the mind
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of controversial director
Michael Bay.
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- He has a reputation.
- Come on, on cameras, let's go.
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Lift him up again, do
it again.
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This is terrible. No, no, no.
We gotta redesign everything.
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Would prove
to be a rocky ride.
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- It was a moment of terror.
- Terror.
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Just racing to get
this thing up and running.
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Come on, let's stop admiring
the truck. Let's shoot.
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- It was chaos from day one.
- I want it to transform.
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Come on, let's go.
We're gonna pop the cable.
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These are real things that
were exploding around here.
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He's ape shit crazy.
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He said to everybody on the
set,
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you're up my movie.
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{\an8}Transformers had
earned billions of dollars
for Hasbro.
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Can you make out how many,
Spike?
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And by the
two thousands, after years
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of rich storytelling
in Transformers lore,
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it seemed like Hasbro had lost
the plot.
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They weren't cars and trucks
that you recognized anymore.
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{\an8}They weren't necessarily
Autobots and Decepticons.
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- Combiner.
- BTR building sets.
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New Jet Storm and
new Optimist sold separately.
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But, if
Transformers weren't
Transformers--
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New Star
Wars Transformers.
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- You had to ask--
- What, what is it?
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And could
it still make money?
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{\an8}There was a very well
established, from the animated
show
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{\an8}and from the movie, set of
relationships in place already.
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I mean, you can't disregard
that.
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Which is exactly
what Hasbro's senior executive
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Brian Goldner was thinking.
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{\an8}He wanted to go back to
overall basic, reintroduce cars
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and trucks in the war and voices
and make something happen.
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And that's not
all Brian Goldner was looking
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to recreate from the past.
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He was thinking in movies,
new cartoons, studios.
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And come on.
There had to be a market
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for new Transformers movies.
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Those animated shows,
the stuff kids absorb
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between the ages of eight
and 12. That's the base.
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And it was a
base that had now grown up
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with more than just pocket money
to spend.
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And so Hasbro's primary
creative liaison,
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Aaron Archer, got to work.
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My responsibility
was to start to harness
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what we believed the brand to be
about.
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Autobots are the good guys.
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Decepticons are the bad guys.
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The core characters, core
iconography, core story.
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So that Brian Goldner could
then lay that out on the table,
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when we went to talk to
Hollywood.
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All too easy.
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{\an8}I don't think it had an easy
time.
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{\an8}Um, or not.
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It was a very skeptical
audience.
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They didn't know how a
movie like that would work.
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They thought it was maybe
gonna be like Toy Story,
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where the toys are running
around.
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You are a toy!
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I happen to know at one
point Universal were offered
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{\an8}the Transformer movies
and turned them down.
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{\an8}Jilted by
Hollywood,
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{\an8}the Hasbro's team's desperate
search for a relationship
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to revive our beloved
Transformers was on the rocks.
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And let's back up a bit
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and meet the White Knight
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who would sweep Hasbro off its
feet
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and helm the franchise they
dreamed of.
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This is Michael Bay.
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{\an8}He's this hot young director.
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You know, he's a
genius with what he does.
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And what he does...
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He likes toys.
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...isn't subtle.
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He has a reputation.
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{\an8}This is terrible. No, no, no.
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{\an8}We gotta redesign everything.
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{\an8}And he loves fast things.
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Real pyrotechnics.
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real stunts,
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ingeniously designed action.
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Some fall for him.
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{\an8}Love him. He's ape shit crazy.
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He gets excited.
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Like this conductor of chaos.
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Which makes
some blow their tops.
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He has a reputation.
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A lot of filmmakers talk
shit about Michael Bay.
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{\an8}I didn't know how much he paid
attention
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in directing class.
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He's even a noun.
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- Bayhem.
- That's right.
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- Bayhem.
- Young Bayhem
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started his career
directing commercials,
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but he was destined for
bigger things in Hollywood.
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He wanted to bring
his way
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of making commercials
to feature films.
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Steven Spielberg
would eventually transform
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Bay's career, but first
he had to get badder.
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Now let's hear one
of those jokes, bitch.
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Bad Boys.
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I'm so sick of this bullshit.
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With a budget
of less than 20 million
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and burning, or earning,
over 140 million at the
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box office, studios would
disagree that Bad Boys
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was a bad movie.
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In 1996, he completed his second
film.
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Welcome to The Rock.
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He said it to Sean Connery at
one stage,
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"Don't destroy my movie."
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And Sean Connery said,
well, I'll try not to.
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Losers always whine about
their best.
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The Rock was still Michael
having to prove himself.
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He's like working with a film
student.
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In so many Michael Bay movies
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where a guy will start
shooting with a machine gun
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and the next time you cut
to him, he's got a pistol.
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{\an8}And he goes, "Well it looked
cool when you saw the shot."
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It's a cool shot. It's not
about that.
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He was trying to do stuff that
works well in a commercial,
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but you've gotta tell the story.
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Well, advertising
sells
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and so did The Rock,
bringing in hundreds of millions
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at the box office and Steven
Spielberg.
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I remember Steven
Spielberg calling Michael
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after watching The Rock and
loving it.
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{\an8}Relationships blossom from
simple things like that
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{\an8}where you have this huge
director saying, I love your
stuff.
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That blossoming
relationship may have had
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more in common than meets the
eye.
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Both filmmakers were fans of--
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You know his favorite movie is--
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- West Side Story?
- Yes.
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♪ The Jets are in gear ♪
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♪ Our cylinders are clickin' ♪
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Which sounds nuts.
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Because Bay's movies
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weren't exactly
music to the ears.
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{\an8}He's very much attracted to
movement.
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It's the choreography,
it's the people in motions.
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It's the fact that every dance
scene has people moving in
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foreground background that
you're telling the story
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through the camera movement.
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Is it not beautiful?
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Ah, yes.
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For Bayhem fans,
a little song and dance might
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seem like the end of the world.
Far from it.
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The great thing about
Armageddon is when it came out
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it was a huge hit.
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And then,
there was Pearl Harbor.
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When I saw that, I went,
well, you know he can do it,
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'cause he, that was done pretty
conventionally, you know?
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There are still things about
it that are a little bit hokey.
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But generally, turned out pretty
well.
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Victory belongs to those
that believe in it the most.
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Earning $450
million worldwide
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against a budget
of less than $150 million.
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The list of Michael Bay fans
and favorites kept growing.
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I met him back on Bad Boys
2.
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It was an amazing experience.
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{\an8}Michael invented one of
the greatest things in our
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{\an8}industry ever.
In Action Industry.
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He invented the Bay Buster.
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You have a camera that's only a
couple
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inches off the ground.
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You have a high power vehicle,
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so you're getting exciting shots
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'cause the ground is rushing by
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- Bay was unstoppable.
- This is what I do.
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Creating
mayhem at the box office.
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- Bayhem.
- Right, Bayhem.
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And for his next film, Michael
Bay would finally team up
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with Steven Spielberg.
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He absolutely thought
Spielberg was a genius.
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It seemed
like combining their
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filmmaking DNA would clone
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Bay's box office success until--
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The Island.The Island.
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An enormous flop.
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Are you saying there's
something wrong?
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{\an8}So in 2005, when The Island
dropped,
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{\an8}those tropes were really
overdone.
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And so, with
Michael Bay's mishandling
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of this sci-fi film and a
collaboration with the great
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Steven Spielberg, that
really didn't work out,
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that's where our story could
have ended.
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However,
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Hasbro's Brian Goldner
had other plans
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because he was still looking
for someone in Hollywood
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to take on Transformers.
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Hasbro had always had
a strong relationship
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with Steven Spielberg
going all the way back
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to the Indiana Jones toys at
Kenner.
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Indiana Jones at your service,
Toht. Ah.
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And so
Steven Spielberg
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and his company Dreamworks,
who had a deal with Paramount,
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made a deal with Hasbro.
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And just like that, this
gray body, dead franchise
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would surge back to life.
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Anything he wants to breathe
life into,
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gets the fast track in
Hollywood.
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So fast in fact--
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They already had the release
date.
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Because when you have a
big blockbuster like that,
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you have to clear out that
weekend.
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You have to go, okay, who
else is releasing something?
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We don't want to compete, but we
have to find an open weekend.
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And so, with
an overwhelming deadline
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fast approaching,
Spielberg needed a script
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that everyone could agree on.
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Hasbro had to approve the
story
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and Spielberg's company had
been working on developing this
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for a while, but they
could not find a writer
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and they were hitting a
deadline where they had
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to be making some sort of
progress.
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I came in, I said I, I have
this idea for the movie.
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I want to do a soldier story.
I want to do Optimus Prime
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and those guys are, they're
all veterans of a war.
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- A really brutal war.
- A war that ravaged
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our planet
until it was consumed by death.
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We are this little
backwater planet
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and the war has come to us and
we don't even know it exists.
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And there's giant robots and
it's all very terrifying.
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Meanwhile,
Steven Spielberg
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was more interested
in teenage earthly matters.
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Steven had pitched, very
centrally, he's like,
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"I'm looking for a story
about a boy and his car."
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I bought a car, turned
out to be an alien robot.
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I took those elements and
kind of jammed them together
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for that first draft.
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They said, this is great. We
love this.
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We need Hasbro to approve
it. I came into Amblin.
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It was me and Mr. Spielberg
and other executives
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and 25 Hasbro execs and I had
the flu.
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I was actually running a fever.
And so I pitched it to them.
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He presented it very
dynamically and fun--
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For 25 minutes.
Scene by scene.
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This is what the movie is,
this is what it's about.
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This is act one, two, and three.
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These are the characters
we use, this involvement.
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At the end of it, the very
nice Hasbro people went-
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Yeah, great, great.
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And they said, good job.
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You're now gonna go write the
movie.
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And with those words
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Good job!
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A reality sunk in
for John.
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They already had July 7th,
2007 picked
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and they said, well
okay, we need six months
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to promote it, we'll need
six months to post it.
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Visual effects, close to a year.
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And then the date that we
need to start, is behind me.
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And there's just this moment
where I said,
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"So in theory we needed
a draft two weeks ago?"
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And Mr. Spielberg said,
"Absolutely, exactly right.
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"Good luck." And then
everyone got up
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and just left me at the table
to go,
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"I'm already behind."
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With a
crushing deadline,
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scriptwriter John Rogers
was feeling the pressure.
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{\an8}I woke up at two o'clock in
the morning clutching my chest
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{\an8}and screamed, which one's the
jet?
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And just like, in
complete brain fog terror.
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And so I wrote
that first draft in
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just this six-week sprint.
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And then I turned in the draft
and there's stuff they liked
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and stuff they didn't like,
and they're like,
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well let's go get a director
and do the next draft.
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Well, Spielberg
wouldn't be directing
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because he had someone else in
mind.
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Steven thought Michael,
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he's a car guy, he loves cars.
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{\an8}And so he said,
"Okay, car movie.
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{\an8}"Let Michael do it."
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But hang on just a
minute,
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because Transformers
isn't just a car movie.
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Robots and cars. Perfect.
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Well there's
a lot more to it than that.
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And this was Hasbro's
chance to make a movie
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that this time gets everything
right.
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Prime, you can't die.
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I know people who
still cry over the death
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of "Optimus Prime" in the movie.
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So Hasbro needed
to be sure that Michael Bay
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wouldn't be responsible for
upsetting yet more fans.
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{\an8}Steven wanted Michael Bay
to work on Transformers,
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{\an8}but Michael Bay had done
The Island.
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- The Island.
- Yeah, right.
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The Island.
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An enormous flop.
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And as the
gatekeepers of this beloved
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franchise, Hasbro would
be right to wonder...
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Um...
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...if Michael
Bay was the right choice.
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{\an8}He has a reputation.
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{\an8}I don't know how much
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{\an8}he paid attention
in directing class.
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Even Michael
Bay himself had doubts.
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{\an8}And Michael turned it down.
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{\an8}I think he told me he
turned it down first.
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And then he had a meeting
with ILM,
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Industry heavyweights
Industrial Light & Magic
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would take on
the gargantuan task
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of the film's ambitious,
overwhelming CGI demands.
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And Michael Bay had concerns.
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Can robots act?
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You fail me yet again, star
screen.
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So I think there was a
lot of questioning, like,
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"How do we get performances
out of these CG constructs
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"for the first time in movie
history?"
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So unwise.
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I mean, 'cause you'd had
dinosaurs,
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you had Jurassic Park,
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not a robot that had to give the
rousing
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St. Crispin's Day Speech from
Henry the V
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to rally the troops.
You never had that.
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We cannot let the humans
pay for our mistakes.
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But without lips, you can't do
mouth.
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Without mouth, you can't
do speech and emotion.
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You know, how do we do this?
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But that was somebody else's
department.
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Precisely. It
was Scott Farrar's department
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and his problem. Michael
Bay needed assurance.
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The one thing that Michael
said,
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are you sure you can make those
Transformers for?
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And he said, absolutely.
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What are you like an alien or
something?
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Michael was also
asked about the last time
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he'd worked with ILM and
that was on The Island .
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A contamination alert has been
issued.
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First meeting he said,
Scott, this last movie
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that the ILM was working on, you
know,
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you were running out of time
because the shots weren't ready
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and they weren't looking
at, because I said,
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Michael had nothing to do with
ILM.
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And he sort of smiled, he says,
okay.
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From that point forward,
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we had a really good
creative relationship.
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Scott had
assured Michael and Steven
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had assured Hasbro.
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And with that, Michael Bay was
on board.
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But sadly for John, he was off
board
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because Michael Bay brought
in a new writing team,
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Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orsi.
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He was already working with Alex
and Bob on a previous movie.
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- The Island.
- You son of a bitch.
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A lot of directors do that.
They have writers they like.
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And so I was like, I, this
nearly killed me. Good luck.
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And by the way, credit to Bob
and Alex
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because they had to do the
rewrites at a ridiculous speed.
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You know, they had to
then take Michael's vision
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and execute it and while they're
prepping,
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actually do these rewrites.
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While Bob and Alex
toiled away on a new draft,
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pre-production was in full
swing,
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conceptualizing the stars
of the film. The bots.
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Ben Proctor and the rest
of the talented team
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had one almighty task.
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We gotta start thinking about
how to transform these things.
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And with
the 2007 premiere date
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for Transformers
already in the calendar,
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there was no time to waste.
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But people sat down and
dutifully did these like series
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{\an8}of sketches that showed the
progression of
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{\an8}how the transformation would
work.
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Eventually, all that got more
or less thrown in the garbage.
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Right next to the
phrase, "Waste not want not."
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And for the designs of the
Transformers themselves-
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Presenting some of those
70s G1 cars was
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already fraught with danger.
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You know, you got a World War II
Jeep,
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you got a 60s Volkswagen,
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you got a flat nose
truck that didn't exist.
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It did look a bit old.
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You're old, Megatron.
Yesterday's model.
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Bumblebee did not
have to be a Volkswagen
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in Hasbro's eyes.
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Hey lighten up, you guys.
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Not the most aggressive
looking car.
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I must need an overhaul.
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They were trying to find a
unique look,
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one that made sense, you know?
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And Michael Bay, he's always
like eager for what's coming.
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And something
perfect was coming.
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{\an8}I had been working in a
very secret location on the
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{\an8}development of an all
new Camaro concept car.
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And I was contacted by
Chevrolet.
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They wanted me to show
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that very secret project to
Michael Bay.
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Once Michael saw the car,
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I mean instantly he said,
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This thing is wicked.
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"That's Bumblebee."
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But if
Bumblebee was a Camaro,
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it would only make sense to make
Barricade
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his Decepticon rival a Ford
Mustang.
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For Mustang to have the bad
guy roll
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as a very sinister police car,
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okay, you know, that made sense
to me.
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Well, after all--
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Michael, he's a car guy. He
loves cars.
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But, did he
love Transformers
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changing Transformers,
willy-nilly?
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Oh God, no!
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It was really interesting.
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We started with these
kind of creepy characters
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that weren't really looking
metallic.
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Even the main bad
guy
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Megatron would be
getting a major overhaul.
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The biggest changes on
Megatron,
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where in the 80s he was a
real weapon
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that was gonna be a no-go.
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I am--
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You're not gonna have
him turn into a pistol.
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There's all the scale issues
from the original, you know,
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animation that everyone
laughs at and they thought
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it sort of-- you can't do
that stuff in live action.
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We had Megatron transform
into an aircraft
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sort of like an alien
spaceship sort of a thing.
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Even producer
Spielberg got his hands on
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transforming these classic
characters.
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{\an8}Steven thought it would
be good if Optimus is
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{\an8}transforming from a Mack truck,
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{\an8}it'd be good to have the
blinkers on him.
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So if he's running down the
street
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and he turns left, the
left hand blinker goes on.
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But how did Hasbro
feel about all these changes
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to their legacy characters?
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We decided we were willing
to go for the ride a little bit
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and we drew very few lines in
the sand.
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Well it turns
out the line in the sand
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was put down by Michael Bay
himself.
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Michael's number one goal
always was, make it look cool.
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So Michael had a big blow
up. "This is terrible.
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"No, no, no. We
gotta redesign everything."
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So it was a total redesign,
top to bottom.
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And the
problems didn't end there.
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Remember what happened to
all the work Ben Proctor did,
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transforming the bots?
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All that got, more or
less, thrown in the garbage.
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It was VFX supervisor
Jason Smith's problem now.
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{\an8}At the very beginning,
I remember us taking
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{\an8}the Optimus robot, a beautiful
model
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that was being worked on, the
actual truck
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and trying to make one
turn into the other.
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Very literally, like the
toy. It doesn't work.
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And while the
leader of the Autobots
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was giving the team trouble,
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luckily the designers had
a leader of their own.
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There was this one fella
became kind of our hero guy.
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His name was Keiji, and, from
Japan.
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He was able to visualize ahead
of time
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what he wanted and how
to change these shapes
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and move them in a way that
was pretty real.
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But when Keiji got
a look at the prime designs,
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he had one mild criticism.
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Keiji Yamaguchi stood
up in dailies one day,
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with Michael Bay in the room,
and said-
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"This model
is an embarrassment
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to the Japanese people."
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Transformers
was in trouble.
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I'm sure that Jeff Mann
probably was a little bit
spooked
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at trying to-- like, how
are we gonna solve this
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and find this robot language
that's never been seen before?
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Because as the department head
he, it was his responsibility
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to make sure it got done.
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And they
were running out of time.
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Autobots, roll out.
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00:21:13,231 --> 00:21:15,317
{\an8}While the wizards
at ILM
494
00:21:15,483 --> 00:21:18,153
{\an8}and the film's art
department tried to figure out
495
00:21:18,153 --> 00:21:20,238
{\an8}how to transform the
Transformers,
496
00:21:23,783 --> 00:21:27,162
Michael Bay had started
hunting for the perfect mix
497
00:21:27,162 --> 00:21:29,372
of heartthrobs and hard asses.
498
00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:31,708
But, there was one character
499
00:21:31,708 --> 00:21:34,127
who would represent
Steven Spielberg's main
500
00:21:34,252 --> 00:21:35,628
vision for the movie.
501
00:21:35,628 --> 00:21:38,465
{\an8}Spielberg boiled it
down to a boy and his car.
502
00:21:38,465 --> 00:21:40,467
Spielberg had a boy
in mind,
503
00:21:40,592 --> 00:21:43,887
thanks to a young actor who
dug his way into the spotlight.
504
00:21:44,554 --> 00:21:47,182
Steven Spielberg saw him
in Holes.
505
00:21:47,182 --> 00:21:49,184
My name is Stanley Yelnats.
506
00:21:49,184 --> 00:21:51,519
Well technically,
it's Shia Leboeuf.
507
00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:52,896
And thought he'd be perfect.
508
00:21:52,896 --> 00:21:54,314
I think I might've found
something.
509
00:21:54,439 --> 00:21:57,484
He kind of fit the
idea of this naive kid--
510
00:21:59,319 --> 00:22:02,197
Who is sort of shocked by what
he's found
511
00:22:02,197 --> 00:22:03,907
and goes on this adventure.
512
00:22:03,907 --> 00:22:05,492
But he wouldn't
513
00:22:05,617 --> 00:22:07,202
be adventuring alone.
514
00:22:07,327 --> 00:22:09,496
Sorry, just working out the
kinks. It's a new car.
515
00:22:09,496 --> 00:22:11,831
And co-starring
along with this boy
516
00:22:11,831 --> 00:22:14,751
and his car would be Megan Fox.
517
00:22:14,876 --> 00:22:17,420
When Megan came into
the first Transformers,
518
00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:20,840
I think she was new to
Hollywood, fresh from Kentucky.
519
00:22:20,965 --> 00:22:22,926
I don't know how much training
she'd had.
520
00:22:22,926 --> 00:22:25,428
Well, there
were 48 episodes of
521
00:22:25,428 --> 00:22:28,348
Hope and Faith where she
played Sydney Shanowski.
522
00:22:28,348 --> 00:22:30,433
I wanna say goodbye to my dad.
523
00:22:30,558 --> 00:22:32,394
And in case you
missed it--
524
00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:34,896
Megan Fox was actually
an extra in Bad Boys 2.
525
00:22:35,021 --> 00:22:36,481
She's right...
526
00:22:36,606 --> 00:22:37,732
there.
527
00:22:38,149 --> 00:22:40,527
And in a flash, she's gone.
528
00:22:40,652 --> 00:22:43,238
Megan would play mechanic
Mikaela Banes.
529
00:22:43,363 --> 00:22:44,990
But before she was turning
wrenches
530
00:22:44,990 --> 00:22:48,243
and dodging Decepticons,
Sam's companion was set
531
00:22:48,368 --> 00:22:50,829
to be a very different kind of
character.
532
00:22:50,829 --> 00:22:52,455
What kind exactly?
533
00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:55,500
The young woman who's the
hacker, Rachel Taylor,
534
00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:57,502
in my version, she's
535
00:22:57,752 --> 00:22:59,587
Sam's partner all the way
through the movie.
536
00:22:59,587 --> 00:23:00,880
Hold on, it was you?
537
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,926
{\an8}It was basically everyday
mechanic guy
538
00:23:04,926 --> 00:23:08,388
{\an8}and you know girl scientist.
539
00:23:08,513 --> 00:23:09,889
Yeah, I have a great female
character.
540
00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:12,434
She's a scientist, she's smart,
she saves the world, good.
541
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:14,686
You have to let me talk
to defense Secretary Keller
542
00:23:14,811 --> 00:23:16,896
before you go to war
with the wrong country.
543
00:23:16,896 --> 00:23:20,233
And then basically when the
guys came on, they're like,
544
00:23:20,358 --> 00:23:22,777
well we want to put her over
here in the science plot line.
545
00:23:22,777 --> 00:23:25,405
So let's give the sort
of working class person
546
00:23:25,530 --> 00:23:26,698
that Sam already knows.
547
00:23:26,823 --> 00:23:28,283
So that's the Megan Fox
character.
548
00:23:28,408 --> 00:23:29,701
I can't believe that I'm here
right now.
549
00:23:29,826 --> 00:23:32,912
Another unexpected
edition was Josh Duhamel
550
00:23:32,912 --> 00:23:35,915
{\an8}who first heard about the
project straight from the top.
551
00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:38,793
{\an8}I was at the time working
on a show called "Las Vegas".
552
00:23:38,918 --> 00:23:40,712
My character had just come back
from Iraq.
553
00:23:40,837 --> 00:23:42,464
I was suffering from PTSD.
554
00:23:42,464 --> 00:23:43,506
Are you on leave?
555
00:23:43,631 --> 00:23:44,632
Discharged.
556
00:23:44,758 --> 00:23:45,967
It was a Dreamworks show.
557
00:23:46,092 --> 00:23:48,553
Steven Spielberg saw the
work that I did on the show
558
00:23:48,553 --> 00:23:50,305
and he recommended to Michael
559
00:23:50,305 --> 00:23:53,475
that he see me for this part
of William Lennox.
560
00:23:53,475 --> 00:23:55,602
I couldn't believe that he
would actually recommend me
561
00:23:55,727 --> 00:23:57,062
for anything.
562
00:23:57,062 --> 00:23:58,730
And while Josh was
flattered
563
00:23:58,730 --> 00:24:00,315
for the opportunity,
564
00:24:00,315 --> 00:24:02,317
he had his own reservations.
565
00:24:02,317 --> 00:24:05,737
Transformers sounds like
a terrible idea, you know,
566
00:24:05,862 --> 00:24:06,905
because I remember the cartoon
from the
567
00:24:06,905 --> 00:24:08,656
eighties that I grew up on.
568
00:24:08,656 --> 00:24:09,824
Can you transform?
569
00:24:09,824 --> 00:24:12,494
I don't know if I can do it.
570
00:24:12,494 --> 00:24:14,412
Luckily technology
571
00:24:14,412 --> 00:24:16,498
had come a long way
since the 80s.
572
00:24:16,623 --> 00:24:18,375
Alright, we gotta get this thing
back to the Pentagon right away.
573
00:24:18,375 --> 00:24:19,793
They gotta know what
we're dealing with here.
574
00:24:19,793 --> 00:24:21,836
And while Josh
was skeptical at first,
575
00:24:21,836 --> 00:24:24,506
Michael Bay doubled down on an
actor
576
00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:28,676
he inadvertently double cast
in the movie Pearl Harbor.
577
00:24:28,676 --> 00:24:29,928
Uh, matey.
578
00:24:29,928 --> 00:24:32,555
{\an8}We were filming aboard
the USS Lexington.
579
00:24:32,681 --> 00:24:33,473
They called me and said,
580
00:24:33,598 --> 00:24:35,600
"We feel like we dropped the
ball a bit
581
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,521
because the role Admiral Bull
Halsey has been double cast."
582
00:24:39,521 --> 00:24:41,690
They feel Europe is the
greater danger, admiral.
583
00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:44,484
And they said, well, Michael
really likes your essence
584
00:24:44,484 --> 00:24:47,654
and likes your presence and
still wants you in the film.
585
00:24:47,821 --> 00:24:51,324
And Michael just threw some
lines my way.
586
00:24:51,324 --> 00:24:52,784
So instead of getting on a plane
587
00:24:52,909 --> 00:24:54,703
and leaving, I've gone on to
work
588
00:24:54,703 --> 00:24:56,830
with Michael Bay six times.
589
00:24:56,830 --> 00:25:00,000
If you do not comply,
we will use deadly force.
590
00:25:00,125 --> 00:25:01,793
By the time I did
Transformers ,
591
00:25:01,793 --> 00:25:05,088
I had elevated to being
the number one military
592
00:25:05,213 --> 00:25:06,798
guy in all of Hollywood.
593
00:25:06,798 --> 00:25:10,385
I played more military roles
than anyone living or dead.
594
00:25:10,510 --> 00:25:13,388
Spielberg actually thought he
had found me in the military.
595
00:25:13,388 --> 00:25:16,558
And I've had an entire career,
not specifically military,
596
00:25:16,558 --> 00:25:18,518
but anything authority wise.
597
00:25:18,643 --> 00:25:22,021
But casting the earthlings was
only part of the challenge.
598
00:25:22,021 --> 00:25:24,733
Finding someone to
replicate the almighty prose
599
00:25:24,733 --> 00:25:26,860
of the most eloquent transformer
600
00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:29,487
that Cybertron ever produced--
601
00:25:29,612 --> 00:25:31,614
Are you Samuel James Witwicky,
602
00:25:31,614 --> 00:25:33,575
descendant of Archibald
Witwicky.
603
00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:36,828
Would be impossible.
Unless, of course--
604
00:25:37,078 --> 00:25:38,079
{\an8}Roll out.
605
00:25:38,204 --> 00:25:40,081
You get
Peter Cullen,
606
00:25:40,081 --> 00:25:42,792
the voice of the
original Optimus Prime.
607
00:25:42,917 --> 00:25:45,128
Transform for action.
608
00:25:45,253 --> 00:25:48,131
But for ILM,
the speaking Transformers
609
00:25:48,131 --> 00:25:49,841
posed a further challenge
610
00:25:49,966 --> 00:25:52,052
to the current directive from
Michael Bay.
611
00:25:52,052 --> 00:25:53,678
We gotta redesign everything.
612
00:25:53,803 --> 00:25:55,722
I think we knew from the
start that Optimus would have
613
00:25:55,847 --> 00:25:57,932
to have a face and be
able to deliver his lines
614
00:25:58,058 --> 00:26:00,602
and not just muffled through
his battle mode mask.
615
00:26:00,602 --> 00:26:05,857
Bah, bah, bah. There's no
enunciation, no lips to animate.
616
00:26:05,857 --> 00:26:08,485
The team
had to get creative about
617
00:26:08,485 --> 00:26:10,904
how he'd express emotion.
618
00:26:11,071 --> 00:26:14,366
And luckily, Scott had just the
solution.
619
00:26:14,491 --> 00:26:17,410
I said we ought to put
little metal pieces here on the
620
00:26:17,410 --> 00:26:18,953
upper lip and maybe lower lip,
621
00:26:18,953 --> 00:26:22,791
where we can actually
emulate a talking mouth.
622
00:26:22,916 --> 00:26:24,667
My name is Optimus Prime.
623
00:26:24,793 --> 00:26:27,462
He's gotta look elegant and
powerful.
624
00:26:27,462 --> 00:26:28,672
Michael liked the idea right
away.
625
00:26:28,797 --> 00:26:30,924
And so we just had to figure
that out.
626
00:26:30,924 --> 00:26:35,053
Optimus Prime ended up being
effectively over 10,000 parts.
627
00:26:35,178 --> 00:26:38,181
But ILM's
elaborate plan wasn't
628
00:26:38,181 --> 00:26:41,976
just groundbreaking,
it was budget breaking.
629
00:26:41,976 --> 00:26:43,728
Trying to do it for a price
630
00:26:43,728 --> 00:26:47,232
that was reasonable was
very, very difficult.
631
00:26:52,737 --> 00:26:55,031
Giving
Transformers the ability to
emote,
632
00:26:55,031 --> 00:26:58,910
pushed ILM's animators and
their budget to the brink.
633
00:26:59,035 --> 00:27:02,163
The solution? The faces behind
the pixels.
634
00:27:02,288 --> 00:27:05,083
{\an8}We did some tests
using different actors.
635
00:27:05,083 --> 00:27:07,377
I remember we did one with
Robert De Niro
636
00:27:07,502 --> 00:27:09,003
and one with Al Pacino.
637
00:27:09,003 --> 00:27:10,755
And how the different voices
638
00:27:10,755 --> 00:27:15,510
and mannerisms based on what
the look of the actor was,
639
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:17,721
how it would influence
the look of the robot.
640
00:27:17,846 --> 00:27:19,639
Wow, that was tingly.
641
00:27:19,764 --> 00:27:21,808
It was fantastic. It was
amazing.
642
00:27:21,933 --> 00:27:24,477
And I think we were also
trying to say to Michael,
643
00:27:24,602 --> 00:27:27,772
"Is it a good idea to photograph
the voice actor when they're
644
00:27:27,772 --> 00:27:28,940
"doing the acting?"
645
00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:30,692
And the answer is, absolutely.
646
00:27:30,817 --> 00:27:33,695
Because we can get
nuanced facial animation
647
00:27:33,695 --> 00:27:35,989
derived from whatever they're
doing.
648
00:27:35,989 --> 00:27:37,866
The breakthrough
came just in time
649
00:27:37,866 --> 00:27:40,493
because ILM still had work to do
650
00:27:40,618 --> 00:27:43,705
on perhaps the most
expressive bot in the film.
651
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:45,081
{\an8}We have to figure out
Bumblebee,
652
00:27:45,081 --> 00:27:46,833
{\an8}who's gonna be the heart
of the story in so many ways,
653
00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:48,793
and have the relationship
to the humans first.
654
00:27:48,793 --> 00:27:50,795
Which would in
theory enhance
655
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,716
Spielberg's all important
boy and his car plotline.
656
00:27:54,716 --> 00:27:56,760
What is it that's gonna
make Bumblebee be really
657
00:27:56,885 --> 00:27:59,179
aspirational and cool to emote
all of the sort of feelings
658
00:27:59,304 --> 00:28:01,222
of connection with Sam?
659
00:28:01,222 --> 00:28:02,640
Can you talk?
660
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,017
XM Satellite
radio, broadcast,
661
00:28:04,017 --> 00:28:06,478
digital cable 42, broadcasting
system.
662
00:28:06,478 --> 00:28:07,771
He's basically a puppy dog.
663
00:28:07,771 --> 00:28:09,522
You know, he's like a lost
puppy.
664
00:28:09,647 --> 00:28:11,733
And domesticated
dogs present
665
00:28:11,733 --> 00:28:13,902
the same issue as domestic cars.
666
00:28:13,902 --> 00:28:16,529
If they're a main character in a
movie.
667
00:28:17,197 --> 00:28:19,199
{\an8}We're going, well, Sam has
this car
668
00:28:19,324 --> 00:28:20,659
{\an8}and it does weird stuff.
669
00:28:20,659 --> 00:28:22,202
I sold a car the other day--
670
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,164
If he can talk to it,
it doesn't make sense at all.
671
00:28:26,164 --> 00:28:28,875
And so that gave birth to the
idea
672
00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:30,210
that Bumblebee didn't have his
voice.
673
00:28:30,210 --> 00:28:31,753
He had lost in the war.
674
00:28:31,753 --> 00:28:33,046
His vocal processes
675
00:28:33,171 --> 00:28:35,048
were damaged in battle.
676
00:28:35,382 --> 00:28:36,966
I'm still working on him.
677
00:28:36,966 --> 00:28:39,594
But it's
worth noting this was
678
00:28:39,594 --> 00:28:43,932
a further departure from
the original Bumblebee.
679
00:28:44,057 --> 00:28:45,683
Come on, let's go inside.
680
00:28:45,683 --> 00:28:47,102
And come
to think of it,
681
00:28:47,102 --> 00:28:48,770
there was another character
682
00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:50,855
who wouldn't be speaking
in the movie.
683
00:28:50,855 --> 00:28:53,942
In fact, this one wouldn't
be appearing at all.
684
00:28:53,942 --> 00:28:55,986
We always pitched Arcee
'cause there's not a lot
685
00:28:56,111 --> 00:28:57,946
of female Transformers.
686
00:28:58,071 --> 00:29:00,907
{\an8}Michael was like, it
cost a million dollars
687
00:29:00,907 --> 00:29:02,575
{\an8}to transform one of these
characters.
688
00:29:02,701 --> 00:29:04,077
So we have to be
689
00:29:04,202 --> 00:29:06,538
very strategic
about which ones we show.
690
00:29:06,538 --> 00:29:09,040
{\an8}And there just wasn't a
place in that movie for her.
691
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,875
So we definitely talked about
it.
692
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,253
Well, perhaps
that talk will turn
693
00:29:13,253 --> 00:29:15,964
into action if they make another
movie.
694
00:29:15,964 --> 00:29:18,967
Principal photography
for Transformers began
695
00:29:18,967 --> 00:29:22,679
on schedule at Holloman Air
Force Base in New Mexico.
696
00:29:22,804 --> 00:29:26,891
And the Bayhem began from
the very first slate.
697
00:29:26,891 --> 00:29:28,935
Slates?
698
00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:31,730
To navigate
rushes and sync up picture
699
00:29:31,730 --> 00:29:34,983
and sounds, slates like
this are critical.
700
00:29:34,983 --> 00:29:36,901
But Michael Bay didn't think so.
701
00:29:36,901 --> 00:29:39,654
{\an8}Why? Because when he would sit
702
00:29:39,821 --> 00:29:41,948
{\an8}and he would look in the
playback
703
00:29:42,073 --> 00:29:44,576
and see the frame, the slate
coming in,
704
00:29:44,576 --> 00:29:46,661
it would like ruined it for him.
705
00:29:46,661 --> 00:29:48,163
So he would like, get that outta
there.
706
00:29:48,163 --> 00:29:51,124
'Cause he just wants to move and
shoot.
707
00:29:51,416 --> 00:29:53,585
But the confusion
wasn't just limited
708
00:29:53,710 --> 00:29:57,255
to the post team
syncing rushes, The Bayots--
709
00:29:57,255 --> 00:29:59,215
{\an8}- Bayhem.
- Sorry...
710
00:29:59,215 --> 00:30:02,260
{\an8}...Bayhem was everywhere.
711
00:30:02,260 --> 00:30:04,054
{\an8}When I walked on the set of
this thing,
712
00:30:04,054 --> 00:30:07,182
{\an8}it was like the most--
it is an absolute--
713
00:30:10,769 --> 00:30:13,313
It's just the, it's the biggest
production you could imagine.
714
00:30:15,357 --> 00:30:18,068
It's just a massive crew.
So it's pretty intimidating.
715
00:30:18,068 --> 00:30:21,780
You feel like a tiny
cog in a giant machine.
716
00:30:21,905 --> 00:30:25,033
And when it's your time to
go, you better be ready.
717
00:30:25,158 --> 00:30:26,826
We're in White Sands, New
Mexico.
718
00:30:26,951 --> 00:30:29,371
It took probably two hours
to set up this one shot
719
00:30:29,496 --> 00:30:31,831
because it was explosion after
explosion.
720
00:30:31,831 --> 00:30:34,000
Cover fire!
Move it!
721
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,294
I had to run from one thing
and avoiding one explosion.
722
00:30:36,294 --> 00:30:37,796
Laze the target!
723
00:30:37,921 --> 00:30:40,131
We got a beam-rider incoming.
Laze target!
724
00:30:40,256 --> 00:30:42,300
Run through another one.
725
00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:45,011
I need a credit card!
726
00:30:45,428 --> 00:30:47,013
Run through another explosion.
727
00:30:47,013 --> 00:30:49,808
I get to the end and I have
to deliver like, this line.
728
00:30:49,808 --> 00:30:52,227
It wasn't very long, but it
was enough to terrify me.
729
00:30:52,352 --> 00:30:54,270
No, I don't want
a premium package.
730
00:30:54,562 --> 00:30:55,939
They spent two hours
setting up the shot.
731
00:30:55,939 --> 00:30:57,691
If I get to the end,
right in front of camera
732
00:30:57,816 --> 00:31:00,110
and I forget my line,
he's gonna be so pissed off.
733
00:31:00,402 --> 00:31:03,363
So, in my mind, I don't
wanna screw this thing up.
734
00:31:03,530 --> 00:31:05,115
I have to get this right.
735
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,325
Premium line read
delivered.
736
00:31:07,325 --> 00:31:10,078
Duhamel had survived. For now.
737
00:31:10,078 --> 00:31:12,205
The adrenaline was just
incredibly high.
738
00:31:12,205 --> 00:31:14,374
But anything could set off the--
739
00:31:14,374 --> 00:31:16,751
- Bayhem.
- Yeah, that's right.
740
00:31:16,751 --> 00:31:19,754
Especially an empty stomach.
741
00:31:20,755 --> 00:31:22,215
{\an8}5:30, 6:00...
742
00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:24,884
{\an8}Michael starts to get kind of
agitated.
743
00:31:24,884 --> 00:31:27,011
When Michael needs something to
eat--
744
00:31:27,137 --> 00:31:28,763
He's getting, he's getting
hangry.
745
00:31:28,888 --> 00:31:31,850
And so, the chef would
make him a milkshake
746
00:31:31,850 --> 00:31:33,852
and a peanut butter and jelly
sandwich
747
00:31:33,852 --> 00:31:35,228
and we'd be like, we'd hear on
the walkie
748
00:31:35,353 --> 00:31:37,355
Bayhem, Bayhem, Bayhem.
749
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,232
And that meant that it
was time for Michael
750
00:31:39,232 --> 00:31:40,191
to have his peanut butter
and jelly sandwich.
751
00:31:40,317 --> 00:31:42,235
And he would do it.
It would neutralize him
752
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,111
and he'd be all good.
753
00:31:43,111 --> 00:31:45,113
Even the script was
subject
754
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,657
to Michael Bay's ways.
755
00:31:47,782 --> 00:31:49,075
Michael likes to sit behind
the camera
756
00:31:49,075 --> 00:31:50,910
and shout out ideas. Like,
dah, dah, dah, say this.
757
00:31:51,036 --> 00:31:52,162
The script is sort of--
758
00:31:54,706 --> 00:31:56,291
I need you to say something.
759
00:31:57,500 --> 00:31:59,461
My God.
760
00:31:59,586 --> 00:32:02,130
{\an8}He looks at me and I said,
761
00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:05,133
{\an8}"Well, Jesus on a Popsicle
stick," and just held that look.
762
00:32:05,133 --> 00:32:09,220
And he goes, "Jesus on
a Popsicle stick? What?
763
00:32:09,220 --> 00:32:10,805
"What does that even mean?"
764
00:32:10,805 --> 00:32:13,475
And I looked at him and
said, "I do not know."
765
00:32:20,148 --> 00:32:23,401
nickname on set was Bayhem for a
(Narratoreason.ael Bay's
766
00:32:23,401 --> 00:32:27,238
But the Transformer's director
was surprisingly hands off
767
00:32:27,364 --> 00:32:29,824
when it came to the aerial
photography.
768
00:32:29,949 --> 00:32:32,869
{\an8}He doesn't really do anything
with us on the aerial thing
769
00:32:32,994 --> 00:32:35,830
because he doesn't like to fly
that much.
770
00:32:35,955 --> 00:32:37,916
It was Bay's fear
of flying,
771
00:32:37,916 --> 00:32:40,919
that protected aerial DP, David
Nowell
772
00:32:41,044 --> 00:32:44,923
from total Bayhem
at 10,000 feet.
773
00:32:44,923 --> 00:32:47,300
But the sky was not the limit
774
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:50,345
for Bay's relentless
mission impossible demands.
775
00:32:50,595 --> 00:32:51,638
"Get me what I need.
776
00:32:51,638 --> 00:32:54,140
"I don't know what it is,
but you know what it is.
777
00:32:54,140 --> 00:32:55,350
"Go get it."
778
00:32:55,475 --> 00:32:58,019
Somehow,
Nowell always got it,
779
00:32:58,144 --> 00:33:01,690
whatever "it" was,
while losing it.
780
00:33:01,690 --> 00:33:04,359
It drives me nuts because
he doesn't know what he wants.
781
00:33:04,484 --> 00:33:06,194
You know, I have to figure
it out and make it up.
782
00:33:06,194 --> 00:33:08,488
But he can be a real
pain in the ass.
783
00:33:08,613 --> 00:33:11,866
Well, there was
one shot they knew he wanted,
784
00:33:11,991 --> 00:33:13,284
he just didn't know when.
785
00:33:13,410 --> 00:33:15,203
He said, go get me this really
cool
786
00:33:15,203 --> 00:33:17,872
shot of the sand dunes.
I might use it later on.
787
00:33:18,456 --> 00:33:20,792
And he meant later
on, as in,
788
00:33:20,792 --> 00:33:22,502
later on in another movie.
789
00:33:22,627 --> 00:33:24,838
His company's called Platinum
Dunes.
790
00:33:24,838 --> 00:33:28,091
Part of it was used for the
POV of a drone coming in.
791
00:33:28,216 --> 00:33:30,385
It's the beginning of his
movies that are produced
792
00:33:30,385 --> 00:33:32,053
by Platinum Dunes.
793
00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:33,930
But there were
some things Michael Bay
794
00:33:33,930 --> 00:33:35,223
didn't know he needed.
795
00:33:35,223 --> 00:33:37,350
We need to get something
done sometimes is like,
796
00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:38,518
"We gotta talk to Ian."
797
00:33:38,643 --> 00:33:40,103
Producer Ian Bryce,
798
00:33:40,103 --> 00:33:43,022
an expert on delivering
Bay-sized demands,
799
00:33:43,022 --> 00:33:45,984
like access to the Hoover
Dam and the Pentagon.
800
00:33:45,984 --> 00:33:47,485
One of the best
producers in the business.
801
00:33:47,485 --> 00:33:50,196
Ian is probably, yeah, one
of the secret weapons on that.
802
00:33:50,321 --> 00:33:52,032
Yeah, he's got a lot of
influence with
803
00:33:52,157 --> 00:33:54,075
a lot of people's stuff and
he jumps in
804
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,410
and you know,
gets it done.
805
00:33:55,410 --> 00:33:56,953
In Southern
California,
806
00:33:56,953 --> 00:34:00,206
Bryce opened the dome of
the Griffith Observatory.
807
00:34:00,332 --> 00:34:02,917
Michael had sent us out to get
a shot.
808
00:34:03,043 --> 00:34:04,836
Again, we didn't quite
know what it is he wanted.
809
00:34:04,961 --> 00:34:06,254
He says, I'm gonna be
putting robots there,
810
00:34:06,254 --> 00:34:07,422
they're gonna be sitting there
talking.
811
00:34:07,422 --> 00:34:09,841
So, as long as I keep the camera
moving,
812
00:34:09,841 --> 00:34:12,093
whether it's a dolly shot or
high to low,
813
00:34:12,093 --> 00:34:14,929
or if I just went there and
did a static shot of that,
814
00:34:14,929 --> 00:34:16,848
he doesn't like that stuff.
815
00:34:16,848 --> 00:34:19,267
But there
was no time to waste.
816
00:34:19,267 --> 00:34:22,228
As shooting progressed
at a breakneck pace...
817
00:34:22,353 --> 00:34:25,231
{\an8}Many times, you know,
you have one take.
818
00:34:25,357 --> 00:34:27,942
There's not gonna be a
second take if you miss it.
819
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,153
...Bay found
himself stretched across
820
00:34:30,278 --> 00:34:33,448
multiple scenes in multiple
locations.
821
00:34:33,573 --> 00:34:35,450
We were waiting and waiting
for Michael
822
00:34:35,450 --> 00:34:37,827
and then all of a sudden Michael
roars up
823
00:34:37,827 --> 00:34:40,955
{\an8}and just goes, "Why are we not
shooting? Let's go."
824
00:34:40,955 --> 00:34:43,083
But you've been
waiting there for hours for him.
825
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:45,585
And Howard Berger
was on set
826
00:34:45,710 --> 00:34:48,797
because Michael Bay's
commitment to realism called
827
00:34:48,922 --> 00:34:51,257
for puppets when possible.
828
00:34:51,383 --> 00:34:55,095
With Scorponok, it was a
traditional operated puppet.
829
00:34:55,220 --> 00:34:57,055
You know, cable operated and so
forth.
830
00:34:57,180 --> 00:34:59,432
And then we had this
big giant tail section
831
00:34:59,557 --> 00:35:01,017
that could do all this stuff,
832
00:35:01,142 --> 00:35:03,019
but it was really gigantic
and really segmented.
833
00:35:03,019 --> 00:35:05,313
So Michael had us build a
full-sized head
834
00:35:05,313 --> 00:35:06,564
that comes out of the sand.
835
00:35:06,690 --> 00:35:08,149
On this Michael Bay
set,
836
00:35:08,149 --> 00:35:09,859
sparks were flying.
837
00:35:09,859 --> 00:35:11,319
In every sense.
838
00:35:11,444 --> 00:35:13,238
These are real things that
were exploding around you.
839
00:35:13,405 --> 00:35:14,447
Incoming!
840
00:35:16,908 --> 00:35:18,034
And those are real reactions.
841
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:20,412
Shells of these guns,
842
00:35:20,412 --> 00:35:21,496
they weren't shooting anything,
843
00:35:21,496 --> 00:35:22,998
but the shells would still pop
out.
844
00:35:23,123 --> 00:35:25,417
And they were super hot.
845
00:35:25,417 --> 00:35:27,168
{\an8}So hot that they would stick to
your neck.
846
00:35:27,168 --> 00:35:29,003
{\an8}And I'd be like, oh my God.
847
00:35:29,003 --> 00:35:31,297
Left cheek! Left cheek!
Left cheek!
848
00:35:31,297 --> 00:35:35,135
{\an8}Live, real time, action.
849
00:35:35,135 --> 00:35:37,595
Michael Bay is completely
ridiculous.
850
00:35:37,595 --> 00:35:39,264
I never seen this in my life.
851
00:35:39,264 --> 00:35:40,974
Like every day I was just like--
852
00:35:40,974 --> 00:35:42,475
If you seen this shit--
853
00:35:42,475 --> 00:35:43,935
This is so overwhelming.
854
00:35:46,604 --> 00:35:48,023
I think all around it just
makes
855
00:35:48,148 --> 00:35:50,025
for a more authentic
performance.
856
00:35:50,025 --> 00:35:53,111
And Michael Bay's
commitment to authenticity
857
00:35:53,111 --> 00:35:56,031
extended all the way
to the US military.
858
00:35:56,156 --> 00:35:57,949
The Air Force told us, what do
you need?
859
00:35:57,949 --> 00:36:00,368
So he had F35's, F16's and
stuff.
860
00:36:00,368 --> 00:36:02,370
Whatever it is that Michael
wants,
861
00:36:02,370 --> 00:36:03,872
they pretty much let him have
it.
862
00:36:03,997 --> 00:36:06,166
Michael Bay has literally
became
863
00:36:06,166 --> 00:36:08,209
the biggest commercial
864
00:36:08,335 --> 00:36:10,336
for all things military.
865
00:36:10,336 --> 00:36:12,005
We don't take orders from
people that don't exist.
866
00:36:12,005 --> 00:36:13,131
Simmons?
867
00:36:13,131 --> 00:36:15,050
- Yes, sir?
- I'd do what he says.
868
00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:17,886
By now,
you've probably noticed--
869
00:36:18,011 --> 00:36:21,014
{\an8}Everything is all real.
870
00:36:22,557 --> 00:36:26,019
Every explosion, they're all
real.
871
00:36:26,019 --> 00:36:27,479
He does that stuff real.
872
00:36:27,479 --> 00:36:29,189
In real cities.
873
00:36:29,189 --> 00:36:31,441
I don't think he really told
them how much explosions were
874
00:36:31,566 --> 00:36:34,444
gonna go on in the middle
of a street, you know,
875
00:36:34,569 --> 00:36:36,529
in downtown Los Angeles.
876
00:36:36,655 --> 00:36:38,448
And it looked a lot more real.
877
00:36:38,573 --> 00:36:40,533
And if you ask Shia
LaBeouf,
878
00:36:40,659 --> 00:36:42,410
real, real high.
879
00:36:42,535 --> 00:36:46,456
Is it fear or courage that
compels you?
880
00:36:46,998 --> 00:36:48,500
We were shooting at the top
881
00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:50,043
of one of the buildings
in downtown LA
882
00:36:50,043 --> 00:36:51,294
and it's with Shia LaBeouf.
883
00:36:51,419 --> 00:36:54,214
And he gets up and
he's going around this
884
00:36:54,339 --> 00:36:56,257
corner piece of the building.
885
00:36:56,257 --> 00:36:59,386
I remember looking at the
harness going, I can't believe
it.
886
00:36:59,511 --> 00:37:01,262
I just can't believe he's doing
this.
887
00:37:01,262 --> 00:37:03,014
And that's what Michael wanted
him for.
888
00:37:03,014 --> 00:37:05,517
He thought, this kid will do
stuff for me.
889
00:37:05,517 --> 00:37:08,228
And there's a shot
overhead and it's all real.
890
00:37:08,228 --> 00:37:10,647
You can see it's eight stories
down
891
00:37:10,647 --> 00:37:12,399
and there's people walking,
there's traffic going.
892
00:37:12,524 --> 00:37:14,109
They don't even know
what's going on up there.
893
00:37:14,109 --> 00:37:15,568
Michael said, do it again. Do it
again.
894
00:37:15,694 --> 00:37:17,570
And probably about six takes in,
895
00:37:17,696 --> 00:37:19,239
Michael says, "Okay,
let's start from the top."
896
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,657
And he's literally still
hanging off the back.
897
00:37:20,782 --> 00:37:22,701
And he goes,
"Michael, I'm done."
898
00:37:22,826 --> 00:37:25,286
"I'm done. I'm done."
So then he, you know, and then
899
00:37:25,286 --> 00:37:26,621
Michael said, "Okay, we got it."
900
00:37:26,621 --> 00:37:29,624
But for all
the realism Michael Bay
901
00:37:29,624 --> 00:37:31,960
was striving to add to
Transformers ,
902
00:37:32,085 --> 00:37:33,712
there was that one thing.
903
00:37:33,837 --> 00:37:36,589
{\an8}This model is an embarrassment
to the Japanese people.
904
00:37:36,715 --> 00:37:39,592
And Michael Bay's
main problem fell far short
905
00:37:39,592 --> 00:37:41,177
of his need for realism.
906
00:37:41,177 --> 00:37:43,304
{\an8}I was tasked with, you
know, figuring out
907
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:44,681
{\an8}how to rig the robots
908
00:37:44,806 --> 00:37:46,975
and how to get the
transformations going as well.
909
00:37:46,975 --> 00:37:49,060
We had never done
anything like that before.
910
00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:51,062
What in the universe is
going on here?
911
00:37:51,062 --> 00:37:53,565
And while
ILM had been struggling
912
00:37:53,565 --> 00:37:55,191
with this particular problem,
913
00:37:56,568 --> 00:37:58,403
luckily, Jason had a solution.
914
00:37:58,403 --> 00:38:00,113
I wrote a series of tools
915
00:38:00,113 --> 00:38:02,657
I called at the time TFM.
Transformation, right?
916
00:38:02,824 --> 00:38:06,327
And the transformation tools
let an animator push a button
917
00:38:06,453 --> 00:38:08,496
and then hinges appeared and
they could place those hinges.
918
00:38:08,496 --> 00:38:10,373
I'll put one hinge along
the side of the window,
919
00:38:10,498 --> 00:38:13,001
I'll put one hinge right in the
middle so I can spin the window.
920
00:38:13,001 --> 00:38:16,629
I don't think anybody had
actually done mechanical rigging
921
00:38:16,629 --> 00:38:19,674
in animation at this scale,
like we did on that movie.
922
00:38:19,674 --> 00:38:22,802
The TFM tool
was the fix they needed,
923
00:38:22,802 --> 00:38:24,471
even if the producers
924
00:38:24,596 --> 00:38:26,681
weren't happy blowing
up a fixed budget.
925
00:38:26,806 --> 00:38:29,601
I was explaining to the
producers like, we have to
926
00:38:29,601 --> 00:38:31,686
go back through every robot and
put these little things
927
00:38:31,686 --> 00:38:35,065
inside the rig so that they
can accept TFM animation.
928
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:37,442
And people were like, we're
not budgeted for this.
929
00:38:37,442 --> 00:38:39,152
Why didn't we know this before?
930
00:38:39,152 --> 00:38:41,363
It's like, well, we didn't
know how to do any of this.
931
00:38:41,488 --> 00:38:43,114
Jason had cracked
the code,
932
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,534
but it was about to crack
the budget wide open.
933
00:38:52,248 --> 00:38:54,501
With the release date
rushing towards them,
934
00:38:54,501 --> 00:38:58,213
Transformers had a
potentially big problem.
935
00:38:58,338 --> 00:39:01,549
{\an8}ILM had figured out how to
animate the Transformers,
936
00:39:01,675 --> 00:39:05,804
but had left the producers to
figure out how to pay for it.
937
00:39:05,929 --> 00:39:07,389
What are you adding?
Why are you doing this?
938
00:39:07,389 --> 00:39:08,723
Why are you complicating things?
939
00:39:08,723 --> 00:39:10,392
{\an8}Why didn't we know this before?
940
00:39:10,392 --> 00:39:12,811
{\an8}It's like, well, we didn't
know how to do any of this.
941
00:39:12,811 --> 00:39:16,147
Transformers
was officially over budget,
942
00:39:16,147 --> 00:39:17,190
but some things
943
00:39:17,315 --> 00:39:18,358
are worth blowing up.
944
00:39:18,358 --> 00:39:23,071
VFX budget aside, Michael
Bay was finally happy.
945
00:39:23,196 --> 00:39:24,239
But then again--
946
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,615
Robots encouraged. Perfect.
947
00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:27,534
Michael
Bay might've been happy,
948
00:39:27,659 --> 00:39:31,579
but keeping it real made
things real hard for ILM.
949
00:39:31,579 --> 00:39:34,249
Specifically, adding digital
robots
950
00:39:34,249 --> 00:39:36,209
to Bay's practical explosions.
951
00:39:36,334 --> 00:39:37,836
It wasn't easy for ILM
because,
952
00:39:37,836 --> 00:39:39,754
and they often had to
take out half the smoke,
953
00:39:39,754 --> 00:39:42,257
put a robot in, and then
put the smoke back on.
954
00:39:42,382 --> 00:39:46,136
{\an8}It's crazy how complicated a
smoke looks
955
00:39:46,261 --> 00:39:47,554
when you start seeing it
animated
956
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:49,389
moving frame to frame.
957
00:39:49,389 --> 00:39:51,266
And you've gotta match the look
958
00:39:51,266 --> 00:39:54,102
or put something in there
where it's casting shadows.
959
00:39:54,102 --> 00:39:56,855
And then that's what makes it
so cool,
960
00:39:56,855 --> 00:39:58,440
I think, when you actually watch
it,
961
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,568
is that they feel like
they're more organic.
962
00:40:01,693 --> 00:40:03,486
{\an8}I think he put 'em through
their paces on that one.
963
00:40:03,611 --> 00:40:06,573
{\an8}I don't think they made any
money on that movie.
964
00:40:06,573 --> 00:40:08,450
It cost them so much to deliver.
965
00:40:08,450 --> 00:40:09,784
Despite the costs,
966
00:40:09,784 --> 00:40:12,454
ILM had gone above and beyond.
967
00:40:12,454 --> 00:40:14,331
This is easily a hundred times
cooler
968
00:40:14,456 --> 00:40:16,249
than Armageddon ,
I swear to God.
969
00:40:16,249 --> 00:40:19,169
Pushing hard all
the way to the finish line.
970
00:40:19,169 --> 00:40:21,880
Well, three frames short
of the finish line.
971
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,383
I remember this panicking
call from a producer at ILM
972
00:40:25,508 --> 00:40:28,636
going, we're outputting
this shot for a week
973
00:40:28,636 --> 00:40:30,764
and we're three frame short.
974
00:40:30,889 --> 00:40:32,265
Can you fix it for me?
975
00:40:33,475 --> 00:40:35,643
And she was like literally in
tears.
976
00:40:35,643 --> 00:40:37,312
And I said, okay, I'll do it.
977
00:40:37,437 --> 00:40:39,898
And I just took the shot that
before it
978
00:40:40,023 --> 00:40:42,108
and just made that shot
three frames longer.
979
00:40:42,233 --> 00:40:43,693
'cause we couldn't screw the
timing up
980
00:40:43,818 --> 00:40:45,487
for the music and sound.
981
00:40:45,487 --> 00:40:47,697
Everything was already half
mixed.
982
00:40:47,697 --> 00:40:49,240
And I didn't tell Michael.
983
00:40:49,407 --> 00:40:51,701
Three frames
probably weren't worth
984
00:40:51,701 --> 00:40:53,620
unleashing a Baypocalypse.
985
00:40:53,620 --> 00:40:56,164
Besides, it was time for a
Baywatch.
986
00:40:56,164 --> 00:40:59,334
We went up to Michael's
house, watched the movie
987
00:40:59,334 --> 00:41:01,336
with Spielberg for the first
time.
988
00:41:01,461 --> 00:41:03,505
Spielberg
had taken a big risk
989
00:41:03,505 --> 00:41:07,258
on Transformers . The stakes
were high.
990
00:41:07,258 --> 00:41:09,219
Pull out our notepads, right?
991
00:41:09,219 --> 00:41:11,763
Don't wanna miss a line Steven
Spielberg says, right?
992
00:41:11,763 --> 00:41:13,306
And then he said.
993
00:41:13,306 --> 00:41:15,850
- He wanted to tone down Shia.
- Why?
994
00:41:15,850 --> 00:41:17,894
He didn't want Shia to
run the show too much,
995
00:41:18,019 --> 00:41:19,437
if you know what I mean.
996
00:41:19,437 --> 00:41:21,356
And here we have some
of the basic instruments
997
00:41:21,356 --> 00:41:23,358
and tools used by 19th century
seamen.
998
00:41:24,859 --> 00:41:28,446
He would say, "A little bit
of Shia is a lot of Shia."
999
00:41:28,446 --> 00:41:30,365
That was his line.
1000
00:41:30,365 --> 00:41:32,992
But the
question everyone had was,
1001
00:41:33,118 --> 00:41:34,911
what would Hasbro think?
1002
00:41:35,036 --> 00:41:38,456
{\an8}That's when we found out about
Optimus having a sword arm.
1003
00:41:40,375 --> 00:41:43,878
It was what Hasbro
feared futzing with an icon.
1004
00:41:43,878 --> 00:41:45,797
Optimus Prime doesn't have a--
1005
00:41:45,922 --> 00:41:48,341
And we're like
we can make that.
1006
00:41:48,466 --> 00:41:50,927
Not only can we put that in
toys, but we can make a sword.
1007
00:41:51,052 --> 00:41:52,721
So seeing that early cut
1008
00:41:52,721 --> 00:41:54,681
actually put things into
production.
1009
00:41:54,681 --> 00:41:56,725
Not only
that, Aaron got to include
1010
00:41:56,725 --> 00:41:58,768
a fan favorite from yesteryear.
1011
00:41:58,768 --> 00:42:03,565
We also suggested a
transformer iconic line.
1012
00:42:03,690 --> 00:42:07,485
One shall stand, one shall
fall.
1013
00:42:07,485 --> 00:42:10,447
We saw an opportunity for
that and we told them about it.
1014
00:42:10,447 --> 00:42:13,241
And that's how that
got put into movie one.
1015
00:42:13,241 --> 00:42:16,828
At the end
of this day, one shall stand,
1016
00:42:16,828 --> 00:42:18,413
one shall fall.
1017
00:42:18,538 --> 00:42:19,914
But now
it was time to find out
1018
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,751
if Transformers and
Michael Bay would be the ones
1019
00:42:22,751 --> 00:42:24,711
standing or falling.
1020
00:42:24,711 --> 00:42:26,880
You still fight
for the weak.
1021
00:42:27,005 --> 00:42:29,424
That is why you lose.
1022
00:42:30,175 --> 00:42:32,427
This meant a lot to the stock
price.
1023
00:42:32,427 --> 00:42:35,305
This meant a lot to future
partnership. It was stressful.
1024
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:36,723
And don't forget
the base.
1025
00:42:36,723 --> 00:42:39,351
{\an8}Those animated shows, that's
the base.
1026
00:42:39,351 --> 00:42:41,519
It had
been more than 20 years
1027
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:43,897
since they'd seen the
Transformers on screen.
1028
00:42:44,022 --> 00:42:46,691
Chances are they would be
expecting this.
1029
00:42:46,816 --> 00:42:48,652
I want you to make a special
run
1030
00:42:48,652 --> 00:42:50,362
to Autobot city on Earth.
1031
00:42:50,362 --> 00:42:52,572
But instead, would
get this.
1032
00:42:52,697 --> 00:42:55,575
You hold the key to Earth's
survival.
1033
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:57,827
{\an8}You make these things and you
hope that they're gonna do well.
1034
00:42:57,952 --> 00:43:00,622
{\an8}And sometimes they do
and sometimes they don't.
1035
00:43:00,622 --> 00:43:02,749
{\an8}The sense of responsibility
to the franchise,
1036
00:43:02,749 --> 00:43:04,709
to these characters, oh my God.
1037
00:43:04,709 --> 00:43:06,711
But also
they had a responsibility
1038
00:43:06,711 --> 00:43:08,046
to their director,
1039
00:43:08,171 --> 00:43:10,507
whether they agreed
with his vision or not.
1040
00:43:10,632 --> 00:43:11,883
We all had a tough job
1041
00:43:11,883 --> 00:43:13,468
working for Michael, to keep
that guy happy, right?
1042
00:43:13,593 --> 00:43:14,969
Because he has incredibly high
standards.
1043
00:43:14,969 --> 00:43:16,388
He knows what
he wants.
1044
00:43:16,388 --> 00:43:18,473
But, was it
what the fans wanted?
1045
00:43:18,598 --> 00:43:21,434
Would an 80s cartoon
become a new millennium
1046
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:23,311
milestone in filmmaking?
1047
00:43:23,311 --> 00:43:26,815
Or, would the Bayhem of
Michael Bay take down
1048
00:43:26,815 --> 00:43:28,692
the Autobots and Decepticons
1049
00:43:28,817 --> 00:43:32,737
before they could transform
into big bucks at the box office
1050
00:43:32,737 --> 00:43:34,614
for a whole new generation?
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