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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:02,452 --> 00:01:04,661 Thank you very much, sir. 2 00:01:04,747 --> 00:01:06,914 You did a wonderful job. Wonderful. 3 00:01:06,998 --> 00:01:09,375 Shh. Shh. 4 00:01:09,460 --> 00:01:10,878 We did it, Pete. We did it. 5 00:01:12,964 --> 00:01:14,673 - For a moment, we had our doubts. - Shh. 6 00:01:14,759 --> 00:01:18,177 To continue, you've listened to a long and complex case... 7 00:01:18,262 --> 00:01:20,054 murder in the first degree. 8 00:01:20,139 --> 00:01:25,102 A premeditated murder is the most serious charge tried in our criminal courts. 9 00:01:25,187 --> 00:01:26,937 You've listened to the testimony. 10 00:01:27,022 --> 00:01:29,940 You've had the law read to you and interpreted as it applies in this case. 11 00:01:30,027 --> 00:01:34,030 It's now your duty to sit down and try and separate the facts from the fancy. 12 00:01:34,948 --> 00:01:38,494 One man is dead. Another man's life is at stake. 13 00:01:39,287 --> 00:01:43,291 If there's a reasonable doubt in your minds as to the guilt of the accused... 14 00:01:43,374 --> 00:01:45,293 a reasonable doubt... 15 00:01:45,377 --> 00:01:48,172 then you must bring me a verdict of not guilty. 16 00:01:48,255 --> 00:01:50,132 Now if, however, there's no reasonable doubt... 17 00:01:50,216 --> 00:01:54,095 then you must in good conscience find the accused guilty. 18 00:01:55,222 --> 00:01:59,352 However you decide, your verdict must be unanimous. 19 00:01:59,435 --> 00:02:02,813 In the event that you find the accused guilty... 20 00:02:02,897 --> 00:02:06,234 the bench will not entertain a recommendation for mercy. 21 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:09,530 The death sentence is mandatory in this case. 22 00:02:09,614 --> 00:02:13,326 You're faced with a grave responsibility. Thank you, gentlemen. 23 00:02:15,328 --> 00:02:17,372 The alternate jurors are excused. 24 00:02:23,380 --> 00:02:25,381 The jury will now retire. 25 00:04:23,397 --> 00:04:25,398 Try this one. See if I can get it... 26 00:04:26,733 --> 00:04:28,485 It's a muggy day. 27 00:04:31,739 --> 00:04:34,117 Hey. Oh, oh. 28 00:04:46,173 --> 00:04:48,258 - Piece of gum? - No, thanks. 29 00:04:48,342 --> 00:04:50,427 This thing is... 30 00:04:50,512 --> 00:04:52,138 - Huh? - ...move it. 31 00:04:53,766 --> 00:04:55,933 - Come on, I'll give you a hand. - Give me a hand with that. 32 00:04:56,018 --> 00:04:57,352 That's it. 33 00:05:02,985 --> 00:05:04,611 - You know something? - Yeah? 34 00:05:04,695 --> 00:05:06,447 I called the weather bureau this morning. 35 00:05:06,530 --> 00:05:08,448 This is gonna be the hottest day of the year. 36 00:05:08,533 --> 00:05:10,117 Could be. 37 00:05:10,201 --> 00:05:12,120 Boy, you'd think they'd at least air-condition these places. 38 00:05:12,203 --> 00:05:15,541 - What is your name, sir? - Oh, it's, uh - That one, yeah. 39 00:05:15,624 --> 00:05:17,043 Thank you very much. 40 00:05:17,127 --> 00:05:19,880 Okay, gentlemen, everybody's here. 41 00:05:19,963 --> 00:05:22,798 Now, if there's anything you want, I'll be right outside the door. 42 00:05:22,883 --> 00:05:25,135 - Just knock. - Okay, thanks. We will. 43 00:05:37,650 --> 00:05:38,859 Good morning. 44 00:05:38,943 --> 00:05:40,403 I never knew they locked the door. 45 00:05:40,487 --> 00:05:42,655 Sure they lock the door. What'd you think? 46 00:05:43,741 --> 00:05:46,159 I don't know. It just never occurred to me. 47 00:05:47,788 --> 00:05:49,580 What's that for? 48 00:05:49,664 --> 00:05:51,540 Oh, I thought we might want to vote by ballot. 49 00:05:51,626 --> 00:05:54,293 Great idea. Maybe we can get him elected senator. 50 00:05:56,547 --> 00:05:58,299 Just in case, you know. 51 00:06:01,804 --> 00:06:03,930 - Ηow'd you like it? - Oh, I don't know. 52 00:06:04,014 --> 00:06:05,683 It was pretty interesting. 53 00:06:05,767 --> 00:06:07,726 Yeah? I almost fell asleep. 54 00:06:07,812 --> 00:06:10,396 I mean, I've never been on a jury before. 55 00:06:10,481 --> 00:06:13,191 No? I've sat on many juries. 56 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,279 What gets me is the way those lawyers talk and talk and talk... 57 00:06:17,364 --> 00:06:19,533 even when it's an open-and-shut case like this one. 58 00:06:19,616 --> 00:06:21,325 Did you ever hear so much talk about nothin'? 59 00:06:21,410 --> 00:06:23,286 Well, I guess they're entitled. 60 00:06:23,371 --> 00:06:25,832 Yeah. They're entitled. It's the system, but... 61 00:06:27,042 --> 00:06:31,129 If you ask me, I'd slap those tough kids down before they start any trouble. 62 00:06:31,214 --> 00:06:33,298 It would save us a lot of time and money. 63 00:06:33,382 --> 00:06:34,925 - Hey, let's get started, huh? - That's a good idea. 64 00:06:35,010 --> 00:06:37,637 - Yeah, let's get goin', huh? - We probably all got things to do here. 65 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,765 I figured we'd start out with a five-minute break. There's one gentleman in the bathroom. 66 00:06:40,850 --> 00:06:41,808 - Mr. Foreman. - Huh? 67 00:06:41,893 --> 00:06:44,687 - Are, uh - Are we gonna sit in order? - Gee, I don't know. 68 00:06:44,771 --> 00:06:46,522 I, uh - Well, I guess so. 69 00:06:51,530 --> 00:06:52,988 Uh, you're in my seat. 70 00:06:53,072 --> 00:06:55,074 - Oh. Excuse me. - That's all right. 71 00:06:57,619 --> 00:06:59,370 Hey, that's not a bad view, huh? 72 00:07:03,001 --> 00:07:05,461 What did you think of the case? 73 00:07:05,546 --> 00:07:07,589 I mean, it had a lot of interest for me. 74 00:07:07,673 --> 00:07:10,801 No real... dead spots. You know what I mean? 75 00:07:11,677 --> 00:07:14,138 I tell you, we were lucky to get a murder case. 76 00:07:14,222 --> 00:07:16,182 I figured us for an assault or burglary. 77 00:07:16,267 --> 00:07:18,518 Boy, they can be the dullest. 78 00:07:20,104 --> 00:07:21,397 Hey. 79 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,065 That the Woolworth Building? 80 00:07:23,149 --> 00:07:25,067 That's right. 81 00:07:25,152 --> 00:07:26,736 Isn't that funny? 82 00:07:26,819 --> 00:07:29,197 You know, I've lived here all my life. I've never been inside that. 83 00:07:29,282 --> 00:07:31,366 If you had to sort out all that junk... 84 00:07:31,451 --> 00:07:33,535 Like that thing with the movies. 85 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:36,623 - Yeah. You can say that again. - And what about that business with the knife? 86 00:07:36,707 --> 00:07:39,584 I mean, asking grown-up people to believe that kind of jazz, huh? 87 00:07:39,668 --> 00:07:42,129 Well, I expected that. You know what we're dealing with. 88 00:07:42,215 --> 00:07:44,674 Yeah, I guess so. 89 00:07:44,758 --> 00:07:46,467 Well, your horn works. Now try your lights. 90 00:07:48,138 --> 00:07:49,596 - What do you got, a cold? - And how. 91 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,891 These hot-weather colds can kill you. 92 00:07:51,974 --> 00:07:54,393 I can hardly touch my nose. You know what I mean? 93 00:07:54,478 --> 00:07:58,022 I sure do. I just got over one. 94 00:07:58,107 --> 00:08:00,859 Aw, come on. Mr. Foreman, let's go here, huh? 95 00:08:00,944 --> 00:08:02,569 Well, that guy's still in the bathroom. 96 00:08:02,655 --> 00:08:05,491 Hey, what's new? I didn't get a chance to see a paper this morning. 97 00:08:05,574 --> 00:08:06,659 Hmm? 98 00:08:06,742 --> 00:08:09,161 I was only wondering how the market closed. 99 00:08:09,246 --> 00:08:11,957 You got a seat on the Exchange? 100 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,792 I'm a broker. 101 00:08:13,876 --> 00:08:18,255 I run a messenger service - the Beck and Call Company. 102 00:08:18,340 --> 00:08:20,466 The name is my wife's idea. 103 00:08:20,549 --> 00:08:24,179 Got 37 men working. Started with nothing. 104 00:08:24,263 --> 00:08:27,432 Okay, men, let's take our seats, huh? 105 00:08:30,604 --> 00:08:32,438 Yeah, we can all get outta here pretty quick, huh? 106 00:08:32,523 --> 00:08:35,734 I don't know about the rest of you, but I happen to have tickets to that ball game tonight. 107 00:08:35,818 --> 00:08:37,653 Yanks and Cleveland. 108 00:08:37,737 --> 00:08:39,530 Yeah, we got this kid, Modjelewski, in there. 109 00:08:39,615 --> 00:08:41,283 Ooh, he's a real bull, this kid. 110 00:08:41,366 --> 00:08:43,493 You know - Phoom! 111 00:08:43,576 --> 00:08:45,829 A real jug handle. You know? 112 00:08:45,913 --> 00:08:48,165 Phoom! 113 00:08:48,250 --> 00:08:50,584 You're a real baseball fan, aren't you? Huh? Yeah. 114 00:08:50,670 --> 00:08:52,128 Where do we sit here? 115 00:08:52,213 --> 00:08:55,299 Well, I thought we'd sit in order, you know, by jury numbers. 116 00:08:55,383 --> 00:08:57,801 One, two, three, four, five - so on, around the table. 117 00:08:57,886 --> 00:08:59,136 If that's okay with you gentlemen. 118 00:08:59,221 --> 00:09:00,305 - Sure. - What's the difference? 119 00:09:00,389 --> 00:09:03,434 - I think it's reasonable to sit in order. - Let it be. 120 00:09:03,517 --> 00:09:05,769 - Number 12. Do I sit down here? - Yeah. That's 12. We go around... 121 00:09:05,854 --> 00:09:09,106 - We start with you. One, right? - One, yeah. Two, three, four, five, six. 122 00:09:09,190 --> 00:09:11,526 What was your impression of the prosecuting attorney? 123 00:09:11,609 --> 00:09:13,319 Okay. Two. You're two. 124 00:09:13,405 --> 00:09:14,572 I beg pardon? 125 00:09:14,655 --> 00:09:18,826 I thought he was really sharp, the way he handled all those points one by one. 126 00:09:18,910 --> 00:09:22,038 Logical sequence. I was very impressed. 127 00:09:22,123 --> 00:09:25,126 I think he - he did an expert job. 128 00:09:25,209 --> 00:09:28,212 A lot of drive too, you know? Real drive. 129 00:09:28,297 --> 00:09:30,381 - Okay, fellas, can we hold it down a minute? - Sure. 130 00:09:30,466 --> 00:09:32,050 Uh, fellas. 131 00:09:32,135 --> 00:09:35,596 Say, we'd like to get started. Gentleman at the window. 132 00:09:37,266 --> 00:09:39,433 - We'd like to get started. - Oh, I'm sorry. 133 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:43,189 Pretty tough to figure, isn't it? Kid kills his father - bing, just like that. 134 00:09:43,273 --> 00:09:45,857 Aw, listen, you analyze the figures, you'll see it happens all the time. 135 00:09:45,943 --> 00:09:47,860 They let those kids run wild up there. 136 00:09:47,944 --> 00:09:50,655 Well, maybe it serves 'em right. You know what I mean? 137 00:09:50,740 --> 00:09:52,324 Is - Is everyone here? 138 00:09:52,409 --> 00:09:54,243 The old man is inside. 139 00:09:54,328 --> 00:09:56,954 Oh. Would you, uh, knock on the door for him? 140 00:09:57,038 --> 00:09:58,998 You a Yankee fan? 141 00:09:59,083 --> 00:10:00,625 No. Baltimore. 142 00:10:01,543 --> 00:10:03,045 - Baltimore? - Yeah. 143 00:10:04,339 --> 00:10:06,883 That's like being hit in the head with a crowbar once a day. 144 00:10:08,636 --> 00:10:09,886 Who have they got? 145 00:10:09,970 --> 00:10:12,389 No, I mean, who have they got besides good groundskeepers? 146 00:10:12,474 --> 00:10:14,016 Say, uh, we'd like to get started. 147 00:10:14,101 --> 00:10:17,145 Oh, forgive me, gentlemen. I - I didn't mean to keep you waiting. 148 00:10:17,939 --> 00:10:19,731 Baltimore? 149 00:10:19,816 --> 00:10:22,610 Okay, gentlemen, if I can have your attention. 150 00:10:22,694 --> 00:10:25,655 You fellas can handle this thing any way that you want to. 151 00:10:25,739 --> 00:10:28,241 I'm, um - You know, I'm not gonna make any rules. 152 00:10:28,326 --> 00:10:31,620 Uh, we can, well, discuss it first and, uh, then vote on it. 153 00:10:31,705 --> 00:10:34,374 That's, of course, uh - That's, uh, one way. 154 00:10:34,457 --> 00:10:37,420 And, uh, well, we can vote on it right now, and... 155 00:10:37,503 --> 00:10:40,004 I think it's customary to take a preliminary vote. 156 00:10:40,089 --> 00:10:43,676 Yeah, let's - Let's vote. Who knows? Maybe we all can get outta here, huh? 157 00:10:43,761 --> 00:10:45,470 Uh-huh. 158 00:10:45,555 --> 00:10:48,640 Okay, then I think that, uh... 159 00:10:48,724 --> 00:10:51,602 Of course you know that we have a first-degree murder charge here... 160 00:10:51,686 --> 00:10:53,770 and if we vote the accused guilty... 161 00:10:53,857 --> 00:10:57,109 uh, we've got to send him to the chair. 162 00:10:57,192 --> 00:11:00,946 - Um, that's mandatory. - I think we know that. 163 00:11:01,031 --> 00:11:02,782 - Let's see who's where. - We might as well. 164 00:11:02,866 --> 00:11:06,662 - Okay. Uh, anyone doesn't want to vote? - All right with me. 165 00:11:07,873 --> 00:11:12,461 Okay. Then, uh, just remember that this has to be 12 to nothing either way. 166 00:11:12,544 --> 00:11:14,004 Um, that's the law. 167 00:11:14,088 --> 00:11:16,131 Okay, are we ready? 168 00:11:16,215 --> 00:11:19,218 Now, all those voting guilty, please raise your hands. 169 00:11:23,224 --> 00:11:26,726 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven... 170 00:11:28,062 --> 00:11:30,647 eight, nine, 10, 11. 171 00:11:30,732 --> 00:11:33,652 Okay. That's 11 guilty. 172 00:11:33,736 --> 00:11:35,236 Those voting not guilty. 173 00:11:36,406 --> 00:11:38,492 One. Right. 174 00:11:38,575 --> 00:11:40,869 That's 11 guilty. One not guilty. 175 00:11:41,787 --> 00:11:43,371 Well, now we know where we are. 176 00:11:43,456 --> 00:11:47,626 Boy, oh, boy. There's always one. 177 00:11:48,170 --> 00:11:50,464 So, what do we do now? 178 00:11:50,547 --> 00:11:52,381 Well, I guess we talk. 179 00:11:52,467 --> 00:11:53,799 Boy, oh, boy. 180 00:11:53,885 --> 00:11:55,720 You really think he's innocent? 181 00:11:59,183 --> 00:12:00,725 I don't know. 182 00:12:00,808 --> 00:12:03,686 I mean, you sat in court with the rest of us. You heard what we did. 183 00:12:03,772 --> 00:12:05,898 The kid's a dangerous killer. You could see it. 184 00:12:05,982 --> 00:12:07,608 He's 18 years old. 185 00:12:07,692 --> 00:12:09,778 Well, that's old enough. Ηe... 186 00:12:09,862 --> 00:12:12,530 He stabbed his own father four inches into the chest. 187 00:12:12,616 --> 00:12:14,866 They proved it a dozen different ways in court. 188 00:12:14,951 --> 00:12:17,496 Would you like me to list them for you? 189 00:12:17,579 --> 00:12:18,871 No. 190 00:12:18,955 --> 00:12:21,041 Then what do you want? 191 00:12:21,125 --> 00:12:24,044 - I just want to talk. - What's there to talk about? 192 00:12:24,128 --> 00:12:25,463 Eleven men in here think he's guilty. 193 00:12:25,547 --> 00:12:27,798 No one had to think about it twice except you. 194 00:12:27,884 --> 00:12:31,095 I want to ask you something. Do you believe his story? 195 00:12:31,179 --> 00:12:33,889 I don't know whether I believe it or not. Maybe I don't. 196 00:12:33,974 --> 00:12:35,558 So how come you vote not guilty? 197 00:12:35,643 --> 00:12:37,561 Well, there were 11 votes for guilty. 198 00:12:37,645 --> 00:12:40,398 It's not easy to raise my hand and send a boy off to die... 199 00:12:40,481 --> 00:12:42,566 without talking about it first. 200 00:12:42,650 --> 00:12:45,068 - Well, now, who says it's easy? - No one. 201 00:12:46,363 --> 00:12:48,532 What, just because I voted fast? 202 00:12:48,615 --> 00:12:51,034 I honestly think the guy's guilty. 203 00:12:51,118 --> 00:12:53,912 You couldn't change my mind if you talked for a hundred years. 204 00:12:53,998 --> 00:12:55,999 I'm not trying to change your mind. It's just that... 205 00:12:56,584 --> 00:12:58,836 We're talking about somebody's life here. 206 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,005 We can't decide it in five minutes. Supposing we're wrong. 207 00:13:01,088 --> 00:13:02,507 "Supposing we're wrong." 208 00:13:02,591 --> 00:13:04,593 Supposing this whole building should fall down on my head. 209 00:13:04,676 --> 00:13:06,678 - You can suppose anything. - That's right. 210 00:13:07,513 --> 00:13:09,264 Look, what's the difference how long it takes? 211 00:13:09,349 --> 00:13:11,933 Suppose we do it in five minutes. So what? 212 00:13:12,018 --> 00:13:14,145 Let's take an hour. 213 00:13:14,229 --> 00:13:16,148 The ball game doesn't start till 8:00. 214 00:13:18,859 --> 00:13:20,027 Hmm? 215 00:13:22,197 --> 00:13:24,031 Who's got something to say? 216 00:13:24,117 --> 00:13:25,533 I'm willing to sit for an hour. 217 00:13:25,618 --> 00:13:28,328 Great. I heard a pretty good story last night. 218 00:13:28,412 --> 00:13:30,497 That's not why we're sitting here. 219 00:13:31,207 --> 00:13:34,753 All right, then you tell me. What are we sitting here for? 220 00:13:36,005 --> 00:13:37,839 I don't know. Maybe no reason. 221 00:13:38,842 --> 00:13:42,303 Look, this kid's been kicked around all of his life... 222 00:13:42,387 --> 00:13:46,308 you know, born in a slum, mother dead since he was nine. 223 00:13:46,391 --> 00:13:48,601 He lived for a year and a half in an orphanage when his... 224 00:13:48,687 --> 00:13:51,606 his father was serving a jail term for forgery. 225 00:13:51,689 --> 00:13:54,025 It's not a very happy beginning. 226 00:13:54,109 --> 00:13:56,235 He's a - a wild, angry kid. 227 00:13:56,321 --> 00:13:58,030 That's all he's ever been. And you know why? 228 00:13:58,113 --> 00:14:01,825 'Cause he's been hit on the head by somebody once a day every day. 229 00:14:01,910 --> 00:14:04,120 He's had a - He's had a pretty miserable 18 years. 230 00:14:04,205 --> 00:14:07,165 I - I just think we owe him a few words. That's all. 231 00:14:07,250 --> 00:14:10,795 I don't mind telling you this, mister. We don't owe him a thing. 232 00:14:10,879 --> 00:14:13,965 He got a fair trial, didn't he? What do you think that trial cost? 233 00:14:14,050 --> 00:14:17,135 - He's lucky he got it. You know what I mean? - You know it. 234 00:14:17,220 --> 00:14:19,555 Now, look, we're all grown-ups in here. 235 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,515 We heard the facts, didn't we? 236 00:14:21,601 --> 00:14:25,396 You're not gonna tell me that we're supposed to believe this kid, knowing what he is. 237 00:14:25,479 --> 00:14:27,856 Listen, I've lived among them all my life. 238 00:14:27,941 --> 00:14:31,277 You can't believe a word they say. You know that. 239 00:14:31,362 --> 00:14:33,196 I mean, they're born liars. 240 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,617 - Only an ignorant man can believe that. - Now listen... 241 00:14:36,701 --> 00:14:39,537 Do you think you were born with a monopoly on the truth? 242 00:14:39,621 --> 00:14:42,207 I think certain things should be pointed out to this man. 243 00:14:42,291 --> 00:14:44,376 - Come on. This isn't Sunday. - We don't need a sermon. 244 00:14:44,459 --> 00:14:46,712 - Come on. - We have a job to do. Now let's do it. 245 00:14:47,756 --> 00:14:50,800 Rice Pops. It's a product I work on at the agency. 246 00:14:51,635 --> 00:14:54,263 "The breakfast with the built-in bounce." 247 00:14:54,347 --> 00:14:55,973 - I wrote that line. - Very catchy. 248 00:14:56,057 --> 00:14:58,226 - Yeah. - Say, do you mind? 249 00:14:58,310 --> 00:15:00,019 Oh, I'm sorry. 250 00:15:00,103 --> 00:15:02,565 I have this habit of doodling. Keeps me thinking clearly. 251 00:15:02,648 --> 00:15:04,358 Yeah, we have all this work to do. 252 00:15:04,442 --> 00:15:06,151 - There's no point staying here forever. - Sorry. 253 00:15:06,236 --> 00:15:08,446 Okay. Um... 254 00:15:08,530 --> 00:15:12,326 perhaps if the gentleman down there who's disagreeing with us... 255 00:15:12,410 --> 00:15:15,705 Well, perhaps you could tell us why. You know, let us know what you're thinking. 256 00:15:15,788 --> 00:15:18,166 And we might be able to show you where you're mixed up. 257 00:15:18,251 --> 00:15:19,918 Well, look, maybe - Maybe this is an idea. 258 00:15:20,002 --> 00:15:22,421 Now, I haven't given it much thought, but it seems to me... 259 00:15:22,504 --> 00:15:26,926 that it's up to the group of us to convince this gentleman that he's wrong and we're right. 260 00:15:27,010 --> 00:15:29,555 Now, maybe if we each took a couple of minutes just to... 261 00:15:30,973 --> 00:15:32,391 Well, it was just a quick idea. 262 00:15:32,476 --> 00:15:33,934 No, no, no. That's a good one. 263 00:15:34,019 --> 00:15:37,104 Uh, suppose we go once around the table. 264 00:15:37,190 --> 00:15:40,066 - I guess you're first. - Oh. 265 00:15:40,151 --> 00:15:41,485 Well, uh... 266 00:15:43,029 --> 00:15:45,448 Well, it-it's hard to put into words. 267 00:15:46,492 --> 00:15:48,494 I just think he's guilty. 268 00:15:48,577 --> 00:15:51,079 I thought it was obvious from the word "go." 269 00:15:51,164 --> 00:15:52,664 I mean, nobody proved otherwise. 270 00:15:52,749 --> 00:15:54,291 Nobody has to prove otherwise. 271 00:15:54,375 --> 00:15:56,628 The burden of proof's on the prosecution. 272 00:15:56,711 --> 00:15:59,172 The defendant doesn't even have to open his mouth. 273 00:15:59,257 --> 00:16:02,383 - That's in the Constitution. - Oh, well, sure, I know that. 274 00:16:02,470 --> 00:16:04,428 Uh, what I meant was, is... 275 00:16:06,223 --> 00:16:08,225 Well, I just think he's guilty. 276 00:16:08,309 --> 00:16:10,018 I-I mean, somebody saw him do it. 277 00:16:10,103 --> 00:16:15,149 Okay. Uh, here's what I think, and I have no personal feelings about this. 278 00:16:15,234 --> 00:16:17,402 I just want to talk about facts. 279 00:16:18,404 --> 00:16:20,532 Number one. 280 00:16:21,074 --> 00:16:25,203 The old man lived downstairs under the room where the killing took place. 281 00:16:25,286 --> 00:16:27,414 At 10 minutes after 12:00 on the night of the killing... 282 00:16:27,499 --> 00:16:31,168 he heard loud noises, said it sounded like a fight. 283 00:16:31,253 --> 00:16:34,129 And he heard the kid yell out, "I'm gonna kill ya." 284 00:16:34,215 --> 00:16:36,508 A second later, he heard a body hit the floor. 285 00:16:36,593 --> 00:16:38,301 Ran to the door, opened it up... 286 00:16:38,386 --> 00:16:40,804 saw the kid running down the stairs and out of the house. 287 00:16:40,889 --> 00:16:42,181 Called the police. 288 00:16:42,266 --> 00:16:44,934 They came in, found the old man with a knife in his chest. 289 00:16:45,018 --> 00:16:48,273 The coroner fixed the time of death around midnight. 290 00:16:48,356 --> 00:16:51,442 Now these are facts. You can't refute facts. 291 00:16:51,527 --> 00:16:53,695 The kid is guilty. 292 00:16:53,779 --> 00:16:55,780 I'm just as sentimental as the next fella. 293 00:16:55,865 --> 00:16:59,743 I know he's only 18, but he's still gotta pay for what he did. 294 00:16:59,828 --> 00:17:01,288 I'm with you. 295 00:17:01,371 --> 00:17:03,915 Okay. Are you finished? 296 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,458 - Yeah. - Right. Next. 297 00:17:05,544 --> 00:17:08,754 It is obvious, to me anyway, that the boy's entire story was flimsy. 298 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:11,048 He claimed he was at the movies during the time of the killing... 299 00:17:11,133 --> 00:17:13,677 and yet, one hour later, he couldn't remember the names of the films he saw... 300 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,596 - or who played in them. - That's right. 301 00:17:15,681 --> 00:17:17,973 And no one saw him going in or out of the theater. 302 00:17:18,058 --> 00:17:19,684 Listen, what about the woman across the street? 303 00:17:19,768 --> 00:17:22,061 If her testimony don't prove it, nothing does. 304 00:17:22,147 --> 00:17:24,481 That's right. She was the one who actually saw the killing. 305 00:17:24,566 --> 00:17:26,984 - Now, fellas, please. - Let's go in order here, huh? 306 00:17:27,068 --> 00:17:30,321 Just a minute. Here's a woman... 307 00:17:30,405 --> 00:17:32,866 Here's a woman who was lying in bed. She can't sleep. 308 00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:34,869 She's dying with the heat. You know what I mean? 309 00:17:34,952 --> 00:17:36,786 Anyway, she looks out the window... 310 00:17:36,873 --> 00:17:40,458 and right across the street she sees the kid stick the knife into his father. 311 00:17:40,543 --> 00:17:43,420 The time is 12:10 on the nose. 312 00:17:43,504 --> 00:17:45,381 Everything fits. 313 00:17:45,465 --> 00:17:47,299 Look, she's known the kid all his life. 314 00:17:47,384 --> 00:17:49,510 His window is right opposite hers across the el tracks... 315 00:17:49,595 --> 00:17:51,262 and she swore she saw him do it. 316 00:17:51,348 --> 00:17:54,015 - Through the windows of the passing el train. - Right. 317 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:58,271 This el train had no passengers on it. It was just being moved downtown. 318 00:17:58,356 --> 00:18:01,274 The lights were out, remember? And they proved in court that, at night... 319 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,777 you can look through the windows of an el train when the lights are out... 320 00:18:03,862 --> 00:18:06,197 and see what's happening on the other side. 321 00:18:06,281 --> 00:18:09,117 - They proved it. - I'd like to ask you something. 322 00:18:09,201 --> 00:18:11,871 You don't believe the boy's story. How come you believe the woman's? 323 00:18:11,955 --> 00:18:13,705 She's one of them too, isn't she? 324 00:18:16,377 --> 00:18:18,378 You're a pretty smart fella, aren't you? 325 00:18:18,462 --> 00:18:19,880 - Okay, gentlemen. - Now, now. 326 00:18:19,964 --> 00:18:22,174 - Now, gentlemen. - Come on. Sit down. Sit down. 327 00:18:22,257 --> 00:18:24,803 Oh, what's he so wise about? I'm telling you. 328 00:18:24,886 --> 00:18:28,139 - Okay, now come on. - Now we're not gonna get anywhere fighting. 329 00:18:28,224 --> 00:18:29,474 Whose turn is it next? 330 00:18:29,558 --> 00:18:32,395 Oh, uh, his. Number five. 331 00:18:34,648 --> 00:18:37,400 Okay, may I - Can I pass? It... 332 00:18:38,194 --> 00:18:40,237 Well, uh, that's your privilege. 333 00:18:40,321 --> 00:18:43,448 Uh, how about the next gentleman? 334 00:18:43,533 --> 00:18:46,202 Oh. Well, uh, I don't know. 335 00:18:46,285 --> 00:18:50,499 I started to be convinced, you know, very early in the case. 336 00:18:51,084 --> 00:18:55,213 You see, I was looking for a motive. That's very important. 337 00:18:55,297 --> 00:18:59,509 Because if you don't have a motive, where's your case, right? 338 00:18:59,593 --> 00:19:02,680 Anyway, that, uh, testimony from those people... 339 00:19:02,764 --> 00:19:05,809 in the apartment across the hall from the kid's apartment... 340 00:19:05,892 --> 00:19:08,145 that was very powerful. 341 00:19:08,229 --> 00:19:11,024 Didn't they say something about a - a fight and an argument... 342 00:19:11,108 --> 00:19:15,528 between the old man and his son around about, uh, 7:00 that night? 343 00:19:15,612 --> 00:19:18,072 - I mean, I could be wrong, but I - - It was 8:00. 344 00:19:18,158 --> 00:19:20,201 It was 8:00. That's right. They heard an argument. 345 00:19:20,285 --> 00:19:22,036 They couldn't hear what it was about. 346 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:24,079 Then they heard the father hit the boy twice. 347 00:19:24,166 --> 00:19:27,125 Finally they saw the boy run angrily out of the house. 348 00:19:27,210 --> 00:19:28,793 What does that prove? 349 00:19:28,879 --> 00:19:32,548 Well, it don't exactly prove anything. It's just part of the picture. 350 00:19:32,632 --> 00:19:35,552 Well, you said it provided a motive. The prosecuting attorney said the same thing. 351 00:19:35,636 --> 00:19:37,888 I don't think that was a very strong motive. 352 00:19:37,973 --> 00:19:41,560 This boy's been hit so many times in his life that violence is practically a... 353 00:19:41,643 --> 00:19:44,021 It's a normal state of affairs with him. 354 00:19:44,104 --> 00:19:48,317 I just - I can't see two slaps in the face provoking him into committing murder. 355 00:19:48,402 --> 00:19:51,988 It may have been two too many. Everyone has a breaking point. 356 00:19:54,533 --> 00:19:56,618 Anything else? 357 00:19:56,703 --> 00:19:59,164 - No. - Okay. 358 00:19:59,247 --> 00:20:00,998 Uh, how about you? 359 00:20:02,835 --> 00:20:04,795 I don't know. It's all been said. 360 00:20:06,339 --> 00:20:08,965 You can talk here forever. It's still the same thing. 361 00:20:10,177 --> 00:20:13,137 This kid is five for 0. 362 00:20:13,223 --> 00:20:15,099 Well, look at his record. 363 00:20:15,182 --> 00:20:17,392 When he was 10, he was in children's court. 364 00:20:17,477 --> 00:20:19,270 He threw a rock at a teacher. 365 00:20:19,355 --> 00:20:21,648 When he was 15, he was in reform school. 366 00:20:21,732 --> 00:20:23,566 He stole a car. 367 00:20:23,652 --> 00:20:26,153 He's been arrested for mugging. 368 00:20:26,238 --> 00:20:28,239 He was picked up twice for knife fighting. 369 00:20:28,323 --> 00:20:30,407 Oh, yeah, they say he's real handy with a knife. 370 00:20:30,493 --> 00:20:33,287 Oh, this is a very fine boy. 371 00:20:33,371 --> 00:20:36,373 Ever since he was five years old, his father beat him up regularly. 372 00:20:36,458 --> 00:20:38,876 - He used his fists. - Well, so would I. 373 00:20:38,962 --> 00:20:40,461 A kid like that? 374 00:20:40,547 --> 00:20:43,714 It's these kids, the way they are nowadays. 375 00:20:46,219 --> 00:20:49,389 When I was a kid, I used to call my father "sir." 376 00:20:50,141 --> 00:20:51,433 That's right. "Sir." 377 00:20:51,517 --> 00:20:53,477 Do you ever hear a kid call his father that any more? 378 00:20:53,562 --> 00:20:56,063 Fathers don't seem to think it's important any more. 379 00:20:56,857 --> 00:20:58,899 - You got any kids? - Three. 380 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:01,611 I got one. 381 00:21:03,115 --> 00:21:04,866 Twenty-two years old. 382 00:21:10,998 --> 00:21:13,750 When he was nine years old, he ran away from a fight. 383 00:21:15,461 --> 00:21:18,631 I saw it. I was so embarrassed I almost threw up. 384 00:21:20,302 --> 00:21:24,930 I said, "I'm gonna make a man out of you if I have to break you in two trying." 385 00:21:27,434 --> 00:21:29,352 Well, I made a man out of him. 386 00:21:30,355 --> 00:21:32,523 When he was 16, we had a fight. 387 00:21:34,109 --> 00:21:36,486 Hit me in the jaw. He was a big kid. 388 00:21:39,908 --> 00:21:41,992 Haven't seen him for two years. 389 00:21:43,912 --> 00:21:46,206 Kids. 390 00:21:47,917 --> 00:21:49,877 Work your heart out. 391 00:21:52,464 --> 00:21:53,715 Well, let's get going. 392 00:21:53,798 --> 00:21:56,134 I think we're missing the point here. 393 00:21:56,219 --> 00:21:59,638 This boy, let's say he's the product of a broken home and a filthy neighborhood. 394 00:21:59,723 --> 00:22:03,310 We can't help that. We're here to decide whether he's innocent or guilty... 395 00:22:03,393 --> 00:22:06,313 not to go into the reasons why he grew up the way he did. 396 00:22:06,396 --> 00:22:09,107 He was born in a slum. Slums are breeding grounds for criminals. 397 00:22:09,192 --> 00:22:11,069 I know it, and so do you. 398 00:22:11,152 --> 00:22:15,865 It's no secret children from slum backgrounds are potential menaces to society. 399 00:22:15,950 --> 00:22:18,117 - Now I think - - Brother, you can say that again. 400 00:22:18,203 --> 00:22:20,746 The kids who crawl out of these places are real trash. 401 00:22:20,830 --> 00:22:23,083 - I don't want any part of them. I'm telling you. - Listen, mister. Listen. 402 00:22:23,167 --> 00:22:26,878 - I, uh - I've lived in a slum all my life. - Wait a minute. 403 00:22:26,963 --> 00:22:30,383 Please, I - I played in backyards that were filled with garbage. 404 00:22:30,467 --> 00:22:32,510 I mean, maybe you can still smell it on me. 405 00:22:32,594 --> 00:22:33,929 Now, listen, sonny. 406 00:22:34,013 --> 00:22:35,597 - Come on now. - There's nothing personal about this. 407 00:22:35,682 --> 00:22:38,225 - No, there was something personal. - Aw, come on, fella. He didn't mean you. 408 00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:40,395 Let's not be so sensitive. 409 00:22:40,479 --> 00:22:42,314 This sensitivity I can understand. 410 00:22:42,398 --> 00:22:47,027 Okay, look, let's stop the arguing. We're only wasting time, and... 411 00:22:48,196 --> 00:22:50,323 Look, your turn down there. Let's go. 412 00:22:51,659 --> 00:22:54,494 Oh, I didn't expect a turn. I thought you were all gonna try to convince me. 413 00:22:54,578 --> 00:22:56,329 - Wasn't that the idea? - Check. That was the idea. 414 00:22:56,415 --> 00:22:58,624 - Oh, I forgot about that. He's right. - What difference does it make? 415 00:22:58,708 --> 00:23:01,043 He's the one who's keeping us in here. Let's hear what he's got to say. 416 00:23:01,128 --> 00:23:03,839 Oh, now wait a minute. We decided to do this a certain way. 417 00:23:03,922 --> 00:23:05,549 I think we ought to stick to that way. 418 00:23:05,634 --> 00:23:07,635 Oh, stop being a kid, will you? 419 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,721 - What do you mean "a kid"? - What do you think I mean? 420 00:23:09,805 --> 00:23:11,431 K-I-D. Kid. 421 00:23:14,018 --> 00:23:17,689 What? Listen, just because I'm trying to keep this thing organized? 422 00:23:17,772 --> 00:23:19,899 Here, you take it. You take on the responsibility. 423 00:23:19,983 --> 00:23:21,860 I'll just - I'll keep my mouth shut. That's all. 424 00:23:21,944 --> 00:23:23,945 What are you getting so hot about? Calm down, will you? 425 00:23:24,030 --> 00:23:25,364 Don't tell me to calm down. 426 00:23:25,449 --> 00:23:27,575 Here. You wanna take the chair, just take the chair. That's all. 427 00:23:27,659 --> 00:23:30,120 - Did you ever see such a thing? - See if you can keep it running. 428 00:23:30,204 --> 00:23:32,164 - Listen, you think it's funny or something? - Hey, forget it, fella. 429 00:23:32,248 --> 00:23:33,832 The whole thing's unimportant. Come on. 430 00:23:33,917 --> 00:23:37,045 - Unimportant? Oh, here, you try it. - No, nobody wants to change. 431 00:23:37,129 --> 00:23:38,880 You're doing a beautiful job. Sit down. 432 00:23:38,964 --> 00:23:41,800 Yeah, you're doing great. Just great, fella. 433 00:23:41,885 --> 00:23:43,761 You stay in there and pitch. You know? 434 00:23:44,722 --> 00:23:46,930 All right. Let's hear from somebody. 435 00:23:48,433 --> 00:23:52,520 Well, if you want me to tell you how I feel about it, it's all right with me. 436 00:23:52,606 --> 00:23:54,733 Boy, I don't care what you do. 437 00:23:54,816 --> 00:23:57,693 All right, I don't have anything brilliant. 438 00:23:57,778 --> 00:23:59,905 I only know as much as you do. 439 00:23:59,989 --> 00:24:03,742 According to the testimony, the boy looks guilty. Maybe he is. 440 00:24:03,826 --> 00:24:07,998 I sat there in court for six days listening while the evidence built up. 441 00:24:08,624 --> 00:24:10,334 Everybody sounded so positive, you know? 442 00:24:10,417 --> 00:24:12,878 I-I began to get a peculiar feeling about this trial. 443 00:24:12,962 --> 00:24:15,047 I mean, nothing is that positive. 444 00:24:15,132 --> 00:24:17,258 There are a lot of questions I'd have liked to ask. 445 00:24:17,343 --> 00:24:20,053 I don't know. Maybe they wouldn't have meant anything, but... 446 00:24:20,138 --> 00:24:22,098 I began to get the feeling that the defense counsel... 447 00:24:22,182 --> 00:24:24,683 wasn't conducting a thorough-enough cross-examination. 448 00:24:24,768 --> 00:24:28,146 I mean, he - he let too many things go by, little things that... 449 00:24:28,231 --> 00:24:30,982 What little things? Listen, when these fellas don't ask questions... 450 00:24:31,068 --> 00:24:33,568 it's because they know the answers already and they figure they'll be hurt. 451 00:24:33,654 --> 00:24:37,573 Maybe it's also possible for a lawyer to be just plain stupid, isn't it? 452 00:24:37,659 --> 00:24:38,951 I mean it's possible. 453 00:24:39,035 --> 00:24:40,702 You sound like you met my brother-in-law once. 454 00:24:43,791 --> 00:24:46,501 I - I kept putting myself in the kid's place. 455 00:24:48,337 --> 00:24:50,463 I'd have asked for another lawyer, I think. 456 00:24:50,550 --> 00:24:53,092 I mean, if I was on trial for my life... 457 00:24:53,176 --> 00:24:57,973 I'd want my lawyer to tear the prosecution witnesses to shreds, or at least try to. 458 00:24:58,057 --> 00:25:02,018 Look, there was one alleged eyewitness to this killing. 459 00:25:02,563 --> 00:25:05,941 Someone else claims he heard the killing, saw the boy run out afterwards. 460 00:25:06,024 --> 00:25:08,152 And there was a lot of circumstantial evidence. 461 00:25:08,236 --> 00:25:11,739 But actually, those two witnesses were the entire case for the prosecution. 462 00:25:11,824 --> 00:25:13,616 Supposing they're wrong. 463 00:25:13,701 --> 00:25:15,493 What do you mean supposing they're wrong? 464 00:25:15,578 --> 00:25:17,455 What's the point of having witnesses at all? 465 00:25:17,539 --> 00:25:20,166 - Could they be wrong? - What are you trying to say? 466 00:25:20,251 --> 00:25:21,792 Those people sat on the stand under oath. 467 00:25:21,878 --> 00:25:23,419 They're only people. People make mistakes. 468 00:25:23,504 --> 00:25:25,213 Could they be wrong? 469 00:25:26,007 --> 00:25:28,925 - Well, no, I don't think so. - Do you know so? 470 00:25:29,010 --> 00:25:30,845 Oh, come on. Nobody can know a thing like that. 471 00:25:30,929 --> 00:25:32,638 This isn't an exact science. 472 00:25:32,723 --> 00:25:34,057 That's right. It isn't. 473 00:25:39,231 --> 00:25:41,983 Okay, let - Let's get to the point. 474 00:25:42,067 --> 00:25:44,653 What about the switch knife they found in the old man's chest? 475 00:25:44,738 --> 00:25:47,157 Uh, wait-wait a minute. There's some people who haven't talked yet. 476 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,242 - Shouldn't we go in order? - They'll get a chance to talk. 477 00:25:49,326 --> 00:25:51,661 Be quiet a second, will you? 478 00:25:51,746 --> 00:25:53,038 What about it, this... 479 00:25:53,121 --> 00:25:56,584 the knife this fine upright boy admitted buying the night of the killing? 480 00:25:56,667 --> 00:25:58,002 Let's talk about it. 481 00:25:58,086 --> 00:26:00,337 All right, let's talk about it. Let's get it in here and look at it. 482 00:26:00,423 --> 00:26:02,174 I'd like to see it again. Mr. Foreman? 483 00:26:02,258 --> 00:26:05,344 - We all saw what it looks like. - Why do we have to see it again? 484 00:26:05,428 --> 00:26:07,388 The gentleman has a right to see exhibits in evidence. 485 00:26:09,599 --> 00:26:11,059 Say, could you bring us the knife? 486 00:26:11,143 --> 00:26:12,937 - Knife? - Yeah. Thank you. 487 00:26:14,606 --> 00:26:17,858 The knife and the way it was bought is pretty strong evidence, don't you think? 488 00:26:17,943 --> 00:26:19,610 - I do. - Good. 489 00:26:19,695 --> 00:26:22,197 Now, suppose we take these facts one at a time. 490 00:26:22,281 --> 00:26:25,535 One. The boy admitted going out of the house at 8:00 on the night of the murder... 491 00:26:25,618 --> 00:26:27,537 after being slapped several times by his father. 492 00:26:27,621 --> 00:26:30,373 No, no. No, he didn't say "slapped." He said "punched." 493 00:26:30,458 --> 00:26:32,875 There's a difference between a slap and a punch. 494 00:26:32,962 --> 00:26:35,546 After being hit several times by his father. 495 00:26:35,630 --> 00:26:37,882 Two. He went directly to a neighborhood junk shop... 496 00:26:37,967 --> 00:26:40,093 - where he bought one of those - - Switch knives. 497 00:26:40,177 --> 00:26:42,179 Switchblade knives. 498 00:26:42,264 --> 00:26:44,056 This wasn't what you'd call an ordinary knife. 499 00:26:44,140 --> 00:26:46,643 It had a very unusual carved handle and blade. 500 00:26:46,727 --> 00:26:48,228 The storekeeper who sold it to him... 501 00:26:48,312 --> 00:26:51,440 said it was the only one of its kind he had ever had in stock. 502 00:26:51,525 --> 00:26:55,278 Three. He met some friends of his in front of a tavern about 8:45. 503 00:26:55,362 --> 00:26:56,862 Am I right so far? 504 00:26:56,948 --> 00:26:59,074 - Yes, you are. - You bet he is. 505 00:26:59,158 --> 00:27:02,328 He talked with his friends for about an hour, leaving them at 9:45. 506 00:27:02,412 --> 00:27:05,372 During this time, they saw the switch knife. 507 00:27:05,457 --> 00:27:07,250 Four. 508 00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:09,752 They identified the death weapon in court... 509 00:27:09,838 --> 00:27:12,340 as that very same knife. 510 00:27:12,424 --> 00:27:15,218 Five. Ηe arrived home at about 10:00. 511 00:27:15,303 --> 00:27:17,637 Now this is where the stories offered by the State and the boy... 512 00:27:17,722 --> 00:27:19,640 begin to diverge slightly. 513 00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:22,310 He claims that he went to a movie at about 11:30... 514 00:27:22,394 --> 00:27:26,439 returning home at 3:10 to find his father dead and himself arrested. 515 00:27:26,524 --> 00:27:28,567 He also claims that the two detectives who arrested him... 516 00:27:28,651 --> 00:27:30,944 threw him down a half a flight of stairs. 517 00:27:31,030 --> 00:27:32,864 Now, what happened to the switch knife? 518 00:27:32,948 --> 00:27:35,575 He claims that it fell through a hole in his pocket on the way to the movies... 519 00:27:35,659 --> 00:27:40,331 sometime between 11:30 and 3:10 and that he never saw it again. 520 00:27:40,414 --> 00:27:42,374 Now there's a tale, gentlemen. 521 00:27:42,459 --> 00:27:45,962 I think it's quite clear that the boy never went to the movies that night. 522 00:27:46,047 --> 00:27:48,006 No one in the house saw him go out at 11:30. 523 00:27:48,090 --> 00:27:49,592 No one at the theater identified him. 524 00:27:49,675 --> 00:27:51,803 He couldn't even remember the names of the pictures he saw. 525 00:27:54,849 --> 00:27:56,559 - What actually happened is this. - Thank you. 526 00:27:56,643 --> 00:27:59,854 The boy stayed home, had another fight with his father... 527 00:27:59,937 --> 00:28:03,650 stabbed him to death and left the house at 10 minutes after 12:00. 528 00:28:03,734 --> 00:28:06,486 He even remembered to wipe the knife clean of fingerprints. 529 00:28:06,571 --> 00:28:09,198 Now are you trying to tell me that this knife... 530 00:28:09,282 --> 00:28:11,200 really fell through a hole in the boy's pocket... 531 00:28:11,284 --> 00:28:13,662 someone picked it up off the street, went to the boy's house... 532 00:28:13,745 --> 00:28:16,415 and stabbed his father with it just to test its sharpness? 533 00:28:16,499 --> 00:28:18,501 No. I'm just saying it's possible the boy lost his knife... 534 00:28:18,584 --> 00:28:20,796 and that somebody else stabbed his father with a similar knife. 535 00:28:20,879 --> 00:28:22,089 It's just possible. 536 00:28:22,172 --> 00:28:23,756 Take a look at this knife. 537 00:28:25,677 --> 00:28:27,887 It's a very unusual knife. 538 00:28:27,971 --> 00:28:29,514 I've never seen one like it. 539 00:28:29,598 --> 00:28:32,393 Neither had the storekeeper who sold it to the boy. 540 00:28:32,476 --> 00:28:35,436 Aren't you asking us to accept a pretty incredible coincidence? 541 00:28:35,522 --> 00:28:37,856 I'm just saying a coincidence is possible. 542 00:28:37,941 --> 00:28:39,441 And I say it's not possible. 543 00:28:46,076 --> 00:28:47,785 Where did that come from? 544 00:28:47,869 --> 00:28:49,246 - Where'd you get that? - It's the same knife. 545 00:28:49,330 --> 00:28:50,830 What do you think you're doing? 546 00:28:50,915 --> 00:28:52,541 Where did you get it? 547 00:28:52,625 --> 00:28:54,877 I went out walking for a couple of hours last night. 548 00:28:54,961 --> 00:28:56,963 I walked through the boy's neighborhood. 549 00:28:57,046 --> 00:29:00,049 I bought that at a little pawnshop just two blocks from the boy's house. 550 00:29:00,135 --> 00:29:01,592 It cost six dollars. 551 00:29:01,678 --> 00:29:04,804 It's against the law to buy or sell switchblade knives. 552 00:29:04,890 --> 00:29:07,142 That's right. I broke the law. 553 00:29:07,225 --> 00:29:11,228 Listen, you pulled a real bright trick. Now, supposing you tell me what it proves. 554 00:29:11,314 --> 00:29:13,399 Maybe there are 10 knives like that. So what? 555 00:29:13,482 --> 00:29:16,277 - Maybe there are. - Well, what does it mean? 556 00:29:16,361 --> 00:29:19,655 You found another knife like it. What's that, the discovery of the age or something? 557 00:29:19,741 --> 00:29:22,075 You mean you're asking us to believe that somebody else did the stabbing... 558 00:29:22,161 --> 00:29:23,953 with exactly the same kind of knife? 559 00:29:24,036 --> 00:29:25,288 The odds are a million-to-one. 560 00:29:25,372 --> 00:29:28,081 - It's possible. - But not very probable. 561 00:29:29,293 --> 00:29:31,294 Okay, fellas, let's take our seats. 562 00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:33,005 There's no point in standing around all over the place. 563 00:29:35,050 --> 00:29:38,470 You know, it's interesting that he'd find a knife exactly like the one the boy bought. 564 00:29:38,554 --> 00:29:41,306 What's interesting about it? "Interesting." 565 00:29:41,390 --> 00:29:43,267 Well, I don't know. I just thought it was interesting. 566 00:29:43,351 --> 00:29:45,145 There are still 11 of us here who think he's guilty. 567 00:29:45,228 --> 00:29:47,522 - Right. - What do you think you're gonna accomplish? 568 00:29:47,606 --> 00:29:49,440 You're not gonna change anybody's mind. 569 00:29:49,526 --> 00:29:51,903 So if you wanna be stubborn and hang this jury, go ahead. 570 00:29:51,987 --> 00:29:55,031 The kid will be tried again and found guilty sure as he's born. 571 00:29:56,575 --> 00:29:58,452 That's probably right. 572 00:29:58,535 --> 00:30:01,747 So what are you gonna do? You know, we could be here all night. 573 00:30:01,831 --> 00:30:05,083 It's only one night. A boy may die. 574 00:30:05,169 --> 00:30:07,712 Well, why don't we just set up house here, huh? 575 00:30:07,797 --> 00:30:10,256 Someone send for Potsy the policeman and get a pinochle deck... 576 00:30:10,342 --> 00:30:12,843 and, uh, we'll just sweat the whole thing out right here. 577 00:30:14,346 --> 00:30:17,390 - I don't think he ought to joke about it. - What do you want me to do about it? 578 00:30:17,474 --> 00:30:21,144 Oh, listen! I don't see what all this stuff about the knife's got to do with anything. 579 00:30:21,230 --> 00:30:24,149 Somebody saw the kid stab his father. What more do we need? 580 00:30:24,233 --> 00:30:27,027 You guys can talk the ears right off my head. You know what I mean? 581 00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:29,823 I got three garages of mine goin' to pot while you're talking. 582 00:30:29,906 --> 00:30:31,573 So let's get done and get outta here. 583 00:30:31,659 --> 00:30:35,078 The knife was very important to the district attorney. He spent a whole day... 584 00:30:35,162 --> 00:30:37,622 He's a 15th assistant or something. What does he know about it? 585 00:30:37,707 --> 00:30:39,166 Hey, let's hold it down. 586 00:30:39,250 --> 00:30:41,585 These side arguments are only slowing us up. 587 00:30:44,464 --> 00:30:45,841 Well, what about it? 588 00:30:45,925 --> 00:30:47,426 You're the only one. 589 00:30:55,353 --> 00:30:57,396 I have a proposition to make to all of you. 590 00:30:58,481 --> 00:31:00,233 I'm gonna call for another vote. 591 00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:06,907 I want you 11 men to vote by secret written ballot. 592 00:31:06,991 --> 00:31:09,035 I'll abstain. 593 00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:11,913 If there are 11 votes for guilty, I won't stand alone. 594 00:31:11,998 --> 00:31:15,792 We'll take in a guilty verdict to the judge right now. 595 00:31:17,253 --> 00:31:20,965 But if anyone votes not guilty, we stay here and talk it out. 596 00:31:24,305 --> 00:31:27,223 Well, that's it. If you want to try it, I'm ready. 597 00:31:27,307 --> 00:31:28,766 All right. Let's do it the hard way. 598 00:31:28,851 --> 00:31:30,769 Okay, that sounds fair. Everyone agreed? 599 00:31:30,853 --> 00:31:32,937 - Anyone doesn't agree? - Fine, fine. Let's go. 600 00:31:33,023 --> 00:31:34,064 Here, pass these along. 601 00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:35,900 Is that the right time? 602 00:32:07,979 --> 00:32:33,801 "Guilty." 603 00:32:37,890 --> 00:32:40,517 "Not guilty." 604 00:32:40,601 --> 00:32:42,018 "Guilty." 605 00:32:42,104 --> 00:32:43,771 Boy, how do you like that? 606 00:32:43,854 --> 00:32:46,316 Oh, and another chap flaps his wings. 607 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,152 All right, who was it? Come on. I want to know. 608 00:32:49,237 --> 00:32:51,487 Excuse me. This was a secret ballot. 609 00:32:51,573 --> 00:32:53,116 We all agreed on that, no? 610 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,326 If the gentleman wanted to remain secret... 611 00:32:55,411 --> 00:32:57,286 Secret? What do you mean secret? 612 00:32:57,371 --> 00:33:00,581 There are no secrets in a jury room. I know who it was. 613 00:33:01,334 --> 00:33:03,253 Brother, you really are something. 614 00:33:03,337 --> 00:33:05,338 You sit here, vote guilty like the rest of us... 615 00:33:05,423 --> 00:33:08,717 and then some golden-voiced preacher starts tearin' your poor heart out... 616 00:33:08,802 --> 00:33:12,096 about some underprivileged kid just couldn't help becomin' a murderer... 617 00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:13,682 and you change your vote. 618 00:33:13,765 --> 00:33:15,891 If that isn't the most sick... 619 00:33:15,977 --> 00:33:19,647 Why don't you drop a quarter in his collection box? 620 00:33:19,732 --> 00:33:21,691 Oh, now just wait a minute. 621 00:33:21,774 --> 00:33:23,359 Listen, you can't talk to me like that. 622 00:33:23,444 --> 00:33:25,279 - No. Who do you think you are? - Calm down. Calm down. 623 00:33:25,362 --> 00:33:27,698 No. Who does he think he is? Did you hear him? 624 00:33:27,782 --> 00:33:31,243 - It doesn't matter. He's very excitable. Sit down. - Excitable? You bet I'm excitable! 625 00:33:31,328 --> 00:33:34,164 We're trying to put a guilty man in the chair where he belongs! 626 00:33:34,248 --> 00:33:36,916 Someone starts telling us fairy tales, and we're listenin'! 627 00:33:37,002 --> 00:33:38,752 Hey, uh, come on, huh? 628 00:33:38,837 --> 00:33:40,755 What made you change your vote? 629 00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:42,465 He didn't change his vote. 630 00:33:42,550 --> 00:33:43,716 I did. 631 00:33:43,801 --> 00:33:45,761 - Oh, fine. - I knew it. 632 00:33:45,846 --> 00:33:47,805 Would you like me to tell you why? 633 00:33:47,889 --> 00:33:49,765 No, I wouldn't like you to tell me why. 634 00:33:49,850 --> 00:33:52,393 I'd like to make it clear anyway, if you don't mind. 635 00:33:52,478 --> 00:33:53,979 Do we have to listen to this? 636 00:33:54,063 --> 00:33:55,814 The man wants to talk. 637 00:33:55,899 --> 00:33:57,483 Thank you. 638 00:33:57,568 --> 00:34:00,903 This gentleman has been standing alone against us. 639 00:34:00,988 --> 00:34:03,239 Now, he doesn't say the boy is not guilty. 640 00:34:03,324 --> 00:34:05,283 He just isn't sure. 641 00:34:05,367 --> 00:34:08,204 Well, it's not easy to stand alone against the ridicule of others. 642 00:34:08,288 --> 00:34:11,415 So he gambled for support, and I gave it to him. 643 00:34:11,501 --> 00:34:13,210 I respect his motives. 644 00:34:13,294 --> 00:34:17,840 The boy on trial is probably guilty, but, uh, I want to hear more. 645 00:34:17,925 --> 00:34:19,717 Right now, the vote is 10 to two. 646 00:34:19,802 --> 00:34:22,054 I'm talking here! You have no right to leave this room! 647 00:34:22,137 --> 00:34:24,014 He can't hear you. He never will. 648 00:34:24,099 --> 00:34:25,682 Let's sit down. 649 00:34:29,854 --> 00:34:32,066 Shall we continue? 650 00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:34,359 Well, I - I think we ought to take a break. 651 00:34:34,444 --> 00:34:38,572 You know, one man's inside, and I think we ought to wait for him. 652 00:34:38,658 --> 00:34:41,618 Okay. 653 00:34:41,702 --> 00:34:43,453 Looks like we're really hung up here, huh? 654 00:34:44,832 --> 00:34:47,166 And that thing with the old man, that was pretty unexpected. 655 00:34:49,254 --> 00:34:51,713 I wish I could figure out some way we could break it up. 656 00:34:54,843 --> 00:34:58,304 You know, in advertising - I told you I worked in an agency. 657 00:34:58,389 --> 00:34:59,389 Mm-hmm. 658 00:34:59,473 --> 00:35:01,474 Well, there's some pretty strange people working there. 659 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,644 Well, they're not strange really, I guess. 660 00:35:03,728 --> 00:35:06,355 It's just that they have peculiar ways of expressing themselves. 661 00:35:06,439 --> 00:35:07,690 You know what I mean. 662 00:35:07,775 --> 00:35:09,985 Of course, I suppose it's the same in your business too, huh? 663 00:35:10,736 --> 00:35:12,237 What do you do? 664 00:35:12,322 --> 00:35:14,489 - I'm a watchmaker. - Oh, really? 665 00:35:14,575 --> 00:35:17,786 Well, I imagine the finest watchmakers in the world come from Europe, huh? 666 00:35:17,871 --> 00:35:20,873 Anyway, as I was telling you, in an agency, when we reach a point like this... 667 00:35:20,956 --> 00:35:24,460 I'm telling him about, in an ad agency, when a point like this is reached in a meeting... 668 00:35:24,544 --> 00:35:27,172 there's always some character ready with an idea, see. 669 00:35:27,256 --> 00:35:29,215 And it kills me. 670 00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:30,800 It's the weirdest thing in the world... 671 00:35:30,886 --> 00:35:34,220 the way they sometimes precede their idea with a little phrase, see, like... 672 00:35:34,307 --> 00:35:37,225 Some account exec will get up, and he'll say, uh... 673 00:35:37,310 --> 00:35:39,144 "Okay, here's an idea. 674 00:35:39,228 --> 00:35:42,857 Let's, uh, run it up the flagpole and see if anyone salutes it." 675 00:35:42,940 --> 00:35:46,068 I mean, it's idiotic, but it's funny, huh? 676 00:35:46,153 --> 00:35:50,657 I, uh - I got a little excited back there. I... 677 00:35:51,660 --> 00:35:53,411 didn't mean to get nasty. 678 00:35:54,287 --> 00:35:58,083 I'm glad you're not one of those lets these emotional appeals influence him. 679 00:35:59,252 --> 00:36:01,503 Uh... 680 00:36:14,770 --> 00:36:17,481 I don't know what's the matter with that fan. Can't seem to get it to start. 681 00:36:18,857 --> 00:36:21,402 ♪ Be, be, be ♪ 682 00:36:21,486 --> 00:36:23,571 ♪ Ba, ba, ba, ba, bum ♪♪ 683 00:36:24,156 --> 00:36:26,074 Eh! 684 00:36:27,201 --> 00:36:29,411 Hey, you a salesman? 685 00:36:29,496 --> 00:36:30,996 I'm an architect. 686 00:36:31,832 --> 00:36:33,166 Hmm. 687 00:36:33,250 --> 00:36:35,502 You know what the soft sell is? 688 00:36:38,423 --> 00:36:40,341 Boy, you got it. Believe me. 689 00:36:42,011 --> 00:36:43,719 I got a different technique. 690 00:36:44,514 --> 00:36:46,306 Laughs, drinks, jokes. 691 00:36:46,391 --> 00:36:48,643 Tricks. You know? 692 00:36:49,478 --> 00:36:50,687 Yeah. 693 00:36:52,147 --> 00:36:54,358 "Hit 'em where they live." That's my motto. 694 00:36:55,776 --> 00:36:58,529 I made 27 grand last year sellin' marmalade. 695 00:36:59,364 --> 00:37:01,867 That's not bad. I mean, you know, considering marmalade. 696 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,872 Hey, what are you gettin' outta this - kicks? 697 00:37:09,042 --> 00:37:11,628 Or did somebody bump you on the head one time and you haven't gotten over it? 698 00:37:11,713 --> 00:37:13,422 Maybe. 699 00:37:14,424 --> 00:37:16,967 You know, you do-gooders are all alike. 700 00:37:17,051 --> 00:37:19,721 You're always blowing your stacks over some guy that fanned. 701 00:37:22,809 --> 00:37:24,643 But what are you wasting our time for? 702 00:37:25,395 --> 00:37:29,440 Why don't you donate five dollars to the cause, and maybe it'll make you feel better. 703 00:37:32,737 --> 00:37:34,989 This kid is guilty, pal. 704 00:37:35,072 --> 00:37:37,491 It's as plain as the nose on your face. 705 00:37:37,575 --> 00:37:39,827 So why don't we stop wasting our time here? 706 00:37:39,912 --> 00:37:42,831 We're gonna all get sore throats if we keep it up, you know? 707 00:37:42,916 --> 00:37:45,208 What difference does it make if you get it here or at the ball game? 708 00:37:46,253 --> 00:37:49,172 Oh, no difference, pal. 709 00:37:49,256 --> 00:37:51,050 No difference at all. 710 00:38:02,982 --> 00:38:04,857 Nice bunch of guys, huh? 711 00:38:04,941 --> 00:38:07,234 Oh, they're about the same as anyone else. 712 00:38:07,319 --> 00:38:10,112 Phew! Boy, what a murderous day. 713 00:38:11,116 --> 00:38:13,158 You think we'll be much longer? 714 00:38:13,243 --> 00:38:14,868 I don't know. 715 00:38:14,953 --> 00:38:16,871 Aw, he's guilty for sure. 716 00:38:16,954 --> 00:38:18,499 Not a doubt in the whole world. 717 00:38:18,582 --> 00:38:21,127 We should - Should've been done already. 718 00:38:23,380 --> 00:38:24,630 Oh, I don't mind, you know. 719 00:38:24,714 --> 00:38:27,133 Hmm. Beats workin'. 720 00:38:30,806 --> 00:38:31,972 Uh... 721 00:38:34,351 --> 00:38:36,435 You think he's not guilty, huh? 722 00:38:36,521 --> 00:38:38,356 I don't know. It's possible. 723 00:38:39,107 --> 00:38:42,902 Well, I don't know you, but I'm bettin' you never been wronger in your life. 724 00:38:42,986 --> 00:38:45,405 You're wasting your time. You ought to wrap it up. 725 00:38:45,489 --> 00:38:47,658 Supposing you were the one who was on trial. 726 00:38:48,493 --> 00:38:50,370 Well, I'm not used to supposing. 727 00:38:50,453 --> 00:38:54,958 I'm just a workingman. My boss does the supposing. But... 728 00:38:55,042 --> 00:38:56,544 Well, I'll try one. 729 00:38:57,753 --> 00:39:03,426 Supposing you talk us all out of this, and, uh, the kid really did knife his father. Huh? 730 00:39:12,354 --> 00:39:13,646 Are you ready? 731 00:39:13,730 --> 00:39:14,940 Hup. 732 00:39:15,023 --> 00:39:15,940 That one. 733 00:39:16,025 --> 00:39:17,693 Sorry, blue eyes. 734 00:39:18,611 --> 00:39:22,030 - Well, where else - - Okay, fellas, let's take our seats. 735 00:39:22,116 --> 00:39:24,033 Looks like we'll be here for dinner, huh? 736 00:39:24,117 --> 00:39:26,494 Okay, now let's - Let's get down to business. 737 00:39:26,580 --> 00:39:27,955 Now, who wants to start it off? 738 00:39:28,038 --> 00:39:29,458 - I would. - Okay, go. 739 00:39:29,541 --> 00:39:31,625 You down there. 740 00:39:31,710 --> 00:39:35,589 The old man who lived downstairs says he heard the kid yell out, "I'm gonna kill ya." 741 00:39:35,672 --> 00:39:38,300 A second later, he heard the body hit the floor. 742 00:39:38,385 --> 00:39:42,263 Now, he ran to the door and he saw the kid running down the stairs and out of the house. 743 00:39:42,348 --> 00:39:43,723 What does that mean to you? 744 00:39:43,807 --> 00:39:47,186 I was wondering how clearly the old man could have heard the boy's voice through the ceiling. 745 00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:49,314 He didn't hear it through the ceiling. The window was open. 746 00:39:49,397 --> 00:39:51,232 So was the one upstairs. It was a hot night, remember? 747 00:39:51,317 --> 00:39:52,649 Well, it was another apartment. 748 00:39:52,736 --> 00:39:55,320 It's not that easy to identify a voice, particularly a shouting voice. 749 00:39:55,405 --> 00:39:56,988 - He identified it in court. - That's right. 750 00:39:57,073 --> 00:39:58,532 And don't forget the lady across the street. 751 00:39:58,617 --> 00:40:01,411 She looked right in the open window and saw the boy stab his father. 752 00:40:01,496 --> 00:40:03,956 - Now, I mean, isn't that enough for you? - No, it isn't. 753 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,000 Boy, how do you like this guy, huh? 754 00:40:06,083 --> 00:40:07,918 It's like talking into a dead phone. 755 00:40:08,003 --> 00:40:11,173 She said she saw the killing through the windows of a moving elevated train. 756 00:40:11,257 --> 00:40:14,761 There were six cars on the train. She saw the killing through the last two cars. 757 00:40:14,844 --> 00:40:16,678 She remembered the most insignificant details. 758 00:40:16,763 --> 00:40:18,806 I don't see how you can argue with that. 759 00:40:18,891 --> 00:40:23,437 Has anybody here any idea how long it would take an el... 760 00:40:32,115 --> 00:40:33,699 Hey! 761 00:40:33,784 --> 00:40:35,285 This isn't a game. 762 00:40:39,581 --> 00:40:41,833 - Did you see him? - Hey. 763 00:40:41,918 --> 00:40:43,669 - The nerve. - All right, listen... 764 00:40:43,753 --> 00:40:47,006 - The absolute nerve. - Forget it. It's not important. 765 00:40:47,091 --> 00:40:49,050 - "This isn't a game"? - Calm down. 766 00:40:49,134 --> 00:40:52,470 - Who does he think he is? - I'm telling you, forget it now. 767 00:40:52,557 --> 00:40:55,891 Has anybody any idea how long it takes an elevated train... 768 00:40:55,977 --> 00:40:57,812 going at medium speed to pass a given point? 769 00:40:57,895 --> 00:40:59,772 - What has that to do with anything? - How long? Take a guess. 770 00:40:59,855 --> 00:41:02,525 - I wouldn't have the slightest idea. - What do you think? 771 00:41:02,609 --> 00:41:04,485 I don't know. Maybe 10, 12 seconds? 772 00:41:05,487 --> 00:41:07,155 I think that's a pretty good guess. Anyone else? 773 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,033 - That sounds right to me. - Come on. What's the guessing game for? 774 00:41:10,118 --> 00:41:11,952 - What do you say? - Ten seconds is about right. 775 00:41:12,036 --> 00:41:13,955 All right. Say 10 seconds. What are you getting at? 776 00:41:14,038 --> 00:41:19,086 This. It takes a six-car el train 10 seconds to pass a given point. 777 00:41:19,169 --> 00:41:23,424 Now let's say the given point is the open window of the room where the killing took place. 778 00:41:23,508 --> 00:41:26,803 You can reach out of that window and almost touch the el tracks, right? 779 00:41:26,887 --> 00:41:28,388 Now let me ask you this. 780 00:41:28,473 --> 00:41:30,725 Has anyone here ever lived near the el tracks? 781 00:41:30,809 --> 00:41:34,437 Well, uh, I just finished painting an apartment that overlooked an el line. 782 00:41:34,522 --> 00:41:36,188 - I was there for three days. - What was it like? 783 00:41:36,273 --> 00:41:37,441 - What do you mean? - Noisy? 784 00:41:37,524 --> 00:41:40,069 Oh, brother. Don't matter though. We were all punchy. 785 00:41:40,153 --> 00:41:42,738 I lived in a second-floor apartment near the el line once. 786 00:41:42,823 --> 00:41:45,867 When the window was open and the train goes by, the noise is almost unbearable. 787 00:41:45,994 --> 00:41:48,786 - You can hardly hear yourself think. - All right, you can't hear yourself think. 788 00:41:48,872 --> 00:41:51,290 - Will you get to the point? - I will. Now just a minute. 789 00:41:51,375 --> 00:41:55,003 Let's take two pieces of testimony and try to put them together. 790 00:41:55,086 --> 00:41:59,174 First. The old man in the apartment downstairs. 791 00:41:59,259 --> 00:42:01,844 He says he heard the boy say "I'm gonna kill you"... 792 00:42:01,928 --> 00:42:04,681 and a split second later heard a body hit the floor. 793 00:42:04,765 --> 00:42:06,350 - One second later, right? - That's right. 794 00:42:06,433 --> 00:42:12,440 Second. The woman across the street swore positively she looked out of the window... 795 00:42:12,524 --> 00:42:15,861 and saw the killing through the last two cars of the passing elevated train, right? 796 00:42:15,945 --> 00:42:18,280 - The last two cars. - What are you giving us here? 797 00:42:18,365 --> 00:42:19,697 Now, just a minute. 798 00:42:19,784 --> 00:42:24,204 We've agreed that it takes 10 seconds for a train to pass a given point. 799 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,376 Since the woman saw the killing through the last two cars... 800 00:42:28,460 --> 00:42:33,423 we can assume that the body hit the floor just as the train went by. 801 00:42:33,508 --> 00:42:37,970 Therefore, the train had been roaring by the old man's window... 802 00:42:38,054 --> 00:42:41,557 a full 10 seconds before the body hit the floor. 803 00:42:41,642 --> 00:42:43,852 The old man, according to his own testimony... 804 00:42:43,936 --> 00:42:46,855 "I'm gonna kill you," body hitting the floor a split second later... 805 00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:49,400 would have had to hear the boy make this statement... 806 00:42:49,485 --> 00:42:51,361 with the el roaring past his nose. 807 00:42:51,444 --> 00:42:52,987 It's not possible he could've heard it. 808 00:42:53,072 --> 00:42:55,241 - That's idiotic. Of course he heard it. - Do you think he could've heard it? 809 00:42:55,325 --> 00:42:57,702 He said he yelled at the top of his voice. That's good enough for me. 810 00:42:57,786 --> 00:43:00,038 Even if he heard something, he still couldn't have identified the voice. 811 00:43:00,123 --> 00:43:01,248 With the el roaring by? 812 00:43:01,331 --> 00:43:03,709 You're talking about a matter of seconds! Nobody can be that accurate. 813 00:43:03,793 --> 00:43:08,423 I think testimony that could put a boy into the electric chair should be that accurate. 814 00:43:10,635 --> 00:43:12,553 You know something? I don't think he could've heard it. 815 00:43:12,636 --> 00:43:14,972 Maybe he didn't hear it. I mean, with all that el noise. 816 00:43:15,056 --> 00:43:16,933 Oh, what are you people talking about? 817 00:43:17,016 --> 00:43:19,060 Well, it stands to reason he couldn't have heard it. 818 00:43:19,145 --> 00:43:21,062 Why should he lie? What's he got to gain? 819 00:43:21,147 --> 00:43:23,357 Attention maybe. 820 00:43:23,441 --> 00:43:25,359 You keep coming in with these bright sayings! 821 00:43:25,444 --> 00:43:28,488 Why don't you send 'em in to a paper? They pay three dollars apiece. 822 00:43:28,572 --> 00:43:30,782 What are you talking to him like that for? 823 00:43:31,743 --> 00:43:35,162 Guy talks like that to an old man really ought to get stepped on, you know? 824 00:43:35,247 --> 00:43:37,081 You ought to have more respect, mister. 825 00:43:38,293 --> 00:43:42,671 If you say stuff like that to him again, I'm gonna lay you out. 826 00:43:52,643 --> 00:43:55,603 Now you go ahead. You - You say anything you like. 827 00:43:55,687 --> 00:43:59,733 Why do you think the old man might lie? 828 00:43:59,817 --> 00:44:03,237 It was just that I looked at him for a very long time. 829 00:44:03,864 --> 00:44:07,117 The seams of his jacket was split, under the shoulder. 830 00:44:07,201 --> 00:44:08,786 Or did you notice that? 831 00:44:08,869 --> 00:44:11,371 I mean, to come to court like that. 832 00:44:11,457 --> 00:44:13,124 Why... 833 00:44:14,250 --> 00:44:18,129 He was a very old man in a torn jacket. 834 00:44:18,214 --> 00:44:21,090 And he walked very slowly to the stand. 835 00:44:21,843 --> 00:44:25,888 He was dragging his left leg and trying to hide it... 836 00:44:25,973 --> 00:44:27,642 because he was ashamed. 837 00:44:28,768 --> 00:44:32,188 I think I know this man better than anyone here. 838 00:44:33,065 --> 00:44:38,487 This is a quiet, frightened, insignificant old man who... 839 00:44:38,571 --> 00:44:40,949 who has been nothing all his life... 840 00:44:41,032 --> 00:44:43,451 who has never had recognition... 841 00:44:43,536 --> 00:44:45,621 or his name in the newspapers. 842 00:44:46,288 --> 00:44:48,499 Nobody knows him. 843 00:44:48,583 --> 00:44:50,626 Nobody quotes him. 844 00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:54,672 Nobody seeks his advice after 75 years. 845 00:44:55,508 --> 00:44:59,387 Gentlemen, that's a very sad thing - to be nothing. 846 00:45:00,097 --> 00:45:04,433 A man like this needs to be quoted, to be listened to. 847 00:45:05,061 --> 00:45:07,021 To be quoted just once. 848 00:45:07,105 --> 00:45:08,982 Very important to him. 849 00:45:09,483 --> 00:45:11,901 It would be so hard for him to recede into the background... 850 00:45:11,986 --> 00:45:13,695 - Wait a minute. - When there was a chance... 851 00:45:13,779 --> 00:45:16,657 What are you trying to do - tell us he'd lie just so he could be important once? 852 00:45:16,741 --> 00:45:19,369 No. He wouldn't really lie. 853 00:45:19,452 --> 00:45:22,914 But perhaps he made himself believe he heard those words... 854 00:45:22,999 --> 00:45:25,208 and recognized the boy's face. 855 00:45:25,293 --> 00:45:27,586 That's the most fantastic story I've ever heard. 856 00:45:27,671 --> 00:45:30,716 How can you make up a thing like that? What do you know about it? 857 00:45:39,768 --> 00:45:41,811 Oh, uh, does anybody want a cough drop? 858 00:45:41,897 --> 00:45:44,148 - No, thanks. - I'll take one. 859 00:45:44,231 --> 00:45:47,735 You can say what you like. I still don't see how anybody can think he's not guilty. 860 00:45:47,819 --> 00:45:50,322 There's something else I'd like to talk about for a minute. 861 00:45:50,406 --> 00:45:52,033 Thanks. 862 00:45:52,116 --> 00:45:55,410 I think we've proved that the old man couldn't have heard the boy say "I'm gonna kill you." 863 00:45:55,494 --> 00:45:57,078 - But supposing - - You didn't prove it at all. 864 00:45:57,165 --> 00:45:59,958 - What are you talking about? - Supposing he really did hear it. 865 00:46:00,043 --> 00:46:02,462 This phrase, how many times have all of us used it? 866 00:46:02,545 --> 00:46:04,046 Probably thousands. 867 00:46:04,130 --> 00:46:05,756 "I could kill you for that, darling." 868 00:46:05,841 --> 00:46:07,759 "Junior, you do that once more, and I'm gonna kill you." 869 00:46:07,843 --> 00:46:09,135 "Get in there, Rocky, and kill him." 870 00:46:09,219 --> 00:46:11,095 We say it every day. That doesn't mean we're really gonna kill anybody. 871 00:46:11,180 --> 00:46:12,973 Wait a minute. What are you trying to give us here? 872 00:46:13,058 --> 00:46:16,769 The phrase was "I'm gonna kill you." The kid yelled it at the top of his lungs. 873 00:46:16,854 --> 00:46:18,188 Don't tell me he didn't mean it. 874 00:46:18,271 --> 00:46:20,565 Anybody says a thing like that the way he said it, they mean it. 875 00:46:20,650 --> 00:46:22,109 Well, gee, now I don't know. 876 00:46:22,194 --> 00:46:26,907 I remember I was arguing with a guy I work next to at the bank a couple weeks ago. 877 00:46:26,990 --> 00:46:28,742 He called me an idiot, so I yelled at him. 878 00:46:28,825 --> 00:46:31,788 Now listen! This guy's trying to make you believe things that aren't so. 879 00:46:31,871 --> 00:46:33,956 The kid said he was gonna kill him, and he did kill him. 880 00:46:34,041 --> 00:46:37,001 Let me ask you this. Do you really think the boy would shout out a thing like that... 881 00:46:37,087 --> 00:46:38,878 so the whole neighborhood could hear him? 882 00:46:38,964 --> 00:46:40,797 I don't think so. He's much too bright for that. 883 00:46:40,882 --> 00:46:45,637 Bright? He's a common ignorant slob. He don't even speak good English. 884 00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:48,555 "He doesn't even speak good English." 885 00:46:51,019 --> 00:46:54,814 Mr. Foreman, I'd like to change my vote to not guilty. 886 00:46:54,898 --> 00:46:56,315 You what? 887 00:46:56,401 --> 00:46:58,819 - You heard me. - Are you sure? 888 00:46:59,736 --> 00:47:01,155 Yeah, I'm sure. 889 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,699 The vote is nine to three, favor of guilty. 890 00:47:03,784 --> 00:47:06,577 Well, if this isn't the living end. Huh? 891 00:47:10,625 --> 00:47:13,377 What are you basing it on - the stories this guy made up? 892 00:47:14,005 --> 00:47:16,339 You ought to write for one of those kooky detective magazines. 893 00:47:16,424 --> 00:47:18,258 You'd make a fortune. 894 00:47:18,343 --> 00:47:21,762 For crying out loud. The kid's own lawyer knew he didn't stand a chance. 895 00:47:22,263 --> 00:47:23,848 Right from the beginning, his own lawyer knew it. 896 00:47:23,932 --> 00:47:25,726 You could see it. 897 00:47:25,809 --> 00:47:29,396 Boy, oh, boy. I'm tellin' you, this guy here is really something. 898 00:47:30,232 --> 00:47:32,025 Look, the kid had a lawyer, didn't he? 899 00:47:32,109 --> 00:47:34,944 He presented his case, not you. How come you got so much to say? 900 00:47:35,029 --> 00:47:37,865 - Look, lawyers aren't infallible, you know. - Baltimore, please. Huh? 901 00:47:37,948 --> 00:47:39,658 He was court-appointed. 902 00:47:39,744 --> 00:47:41,578 - What's that supposed to mean? - It could mean a lot of things. 903 00:47:41,662 --> 00:47:44,914 It could mean he didn't want the case, or he resented being appointed. 904 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,833 It's the kind of case that brings him nothing... 905 00:47:46,918 --> 00:47:49,879 no money, no glory, not even much chance of winning. 906 00:47:49,963 --> 00:47:52,883 That's not a very promising situation for a young lawyer. 907 00:47:52,967 --> 00:47:55,886 He'd really have to believe in his client to put up any kind of a good case... 908 00:47:55,970 --> 00:47:57,971 and, as you pointed out a minute ago, obviously he didn't. 909 00:47:58,057 --> 00:48:00,892 Of course he didn't. Huh. 910 00:48:00,976 --> 00:48:03,269 Who the heck could? 911 00:48:03,354 --> 00:48:06,273 Except maybe some guy's mother or somebody. I... 912 00:48:06,356 --> 00:48:08,609 Ah, look. Will you look at the time, huh? 913 00:48:08,694 --> 00:48:11,236 - Come on. For crying out - - Pardon me. 914 00:48:11,322 --> 00:48:13,656 - I have made some notes here - - Notes. 915 00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:16,367 And I would like to - please, to say something. 916 00:48:16,453 --> 00:48:18,705 - Yeah. - I have been listening very carefully. 917 00:48:18,789 --> 00:48:23,210 And, uh, it seems to me that this man has some very good points to make. 918 00:48:23,294 --> 00:48:27,924 From what was presented at the trial, the boy looks guilty on the surface. 919 00:48:28,008 --> 00:48:32,095 - But maybe if we go deeper? - Oh, come on, will ya? 920 00:48:32,179 --> 00:48:34,473 There is a question I would like to ask. 921 00:48:34,557 --> 00:48:37,851 Let us assume that the boy really did commit the murder. 922 00:48:37,937 --> 00:48:41,272 Now, this happened at 10 minutes after 12:00. 923 00:48:41,357 --> 00:48:43,817 Now, how was he caught by the police? 924 00:48:43,901 --> 00:48:48,406 He came back home, uh, at 3:00 or so... 925 00:48:48,490 --> 00:48:52,244 and he was captured by two detectives in the hallway of his house. 926 00:48:52,327 --> 00:48:56,916 Now, my question is, if he really had killed his father... 927 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,211 why would he come back home three hours later? 928 00:49:00,296 --> 00:49:03,173 Wouldn't he be afraid of being caught? 929 00:49:03,258 --> 00:49:05,008 He came home to get his knife. 930 00:49:05,093 --> 00:49:07,637 It's not nice to go around leaving knives sticking in people's chests. 931 00:49:07,721 --> 00:49:10,473 - Yeah, especially relatives. - Yeah. 932 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:12,810 I don't see anything funny about it. 933 00:49:12,894 --> 00:49:16,438 The boy knew the knife could be identified as the one he had just bought. 934 00:49:16,524 --> 00:49:18,692 He had to get it before the police did. 935 00:49:18,775 --> 00:49:23,238 But if he knew the knife could be identified, why did he leave it there in the first place? 936 00:49:23,782 --> 00:49:26,659 Well, I think we can assume the boy ran out in a state of panic... 937 00:49:26,743 --> 00:49:29,121 after having just killed his father. 938 00:49:29,204 --> 00:49:32,167 When he finally calmed down, he realized he had left his knife there. 939 00:49:32,250 --> 00:49:35,170 Ah. This then depends on your definition of panic. 940 00:49:35,253 --> 00:49:37,630 He would have had to be calm enough to see to it... 941 00:49:37,715 --> 00:49:40,301 that there were no fingerprints left on the knife. 942 00:49:40,384 --> 00:49:44,430 Now, where did this panic start and where did it end? 943 00:49:44,514 --> 00:49:46,892 Look, you voted guilty. What side are ya on? 944 00:49:46,975 --> 00:49:50,520 I don't believe I have to be loyal to one side or the other. 945 00:49:50,605 --> 00:49:52,398 I'm simply asking questions. 946 00:49:52,481 --> 00:49:55,485 Well, this is just off the top of my head, but, uh... 947 00:49:55,570 --> 00:49:58,071 well, if I were the boy and I'd done the stabbing and everything... 948 00:49:58,155 --> 00:50:00,283 I'd take a chance and go back for the knife. 949 00:50:00,366 --> 00:50:02,868 I'll bet he figured that nobody had seen him running out... 950 00:50:02,953 --> 00:50:05,455 and that the body wouldn't be discovered till the next day. 951 00:50:05,539 --> 00:50:07,583 Well, after all, it was the middle of the night. 952 00:50:07,667 --> 00:50:10,169 I'll bet he'd figured nobody would find the body till the next day. 953 00:50:10,252 --> 00:50:12,254 Pardon. This is my whole point. 954 00:50:12,340 --> 00:50:16,051 The woman across the street testified that the moment after she saw the killing... 955 00:50:16,135 --> 00:50:18,720 that is, a moment after the train went by... 956 00:50:18,804 --> 00:50:21,807 she screamed and then went to telephone the police. 957 00:50:21,892 --> 00:50:25,270 Now, the boy certainly must have heard the scream... 958 00:50:25,355 --> 00:50:28,858 so he knew that somebody saw something. 959 00:50:28,942 --> 00:50:31,736 I just don't think that he would have gone back. 960 00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:34,573 Two things. One, in his state of panic, he may not have heard the scream. 961 00:50:34,657 --> 00:50:36,324 Perhaps it wasn't very loud. 962 00:50:36,408 --> 00:50:39,787 Two, if he did hear it, he may not have connected it with his own act. 963 00:50:39,871 --> 00:50:42,916 Remember, he lived in a neighborhood where screams were fairly commonplace. 964 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,460 - There's your answer. - Maybe. 965 00:50:45,544 --> 00:50:48,421 Maybe the boy did kill his father, didn't hear the scream... 966 00:50:48,507 --> 00:50:52,219 did run out in a panic, did calm down three hours later... 967 00:50:52,302 --> 00:50:54,930 and come back to get the knife, risking being caught by the police. 968 00:50:55,014 --> 00:50:57,933 Maybe all of those things happened, but maybe they didn't. 969 00:50:58,018 --> 00:51:00,770 I think there's enough doubt that we can wonder whether he was there at all... 970 00:51:00,854 --> 00:51:02,522 during the time the killing took place. 971 00:51:02,607 --> 00:51:04,357 What do you mean doubt? What are you talking about? 972 00:51:04,442 --> 00:51:06,151 Didn't the old man see him running out of the house? 973 00:51:06,236 --> 00:51:08,028 He's twisting the facts, I'm telling you. 974 00:51:08,113 --> 00:51:11,450 Did or didn't the old man see the kid running out of the house at 12:10? 975 00:51:11,534 --> 00:51:13,451 Well, did or didn't he? 976 00:51:13,537 --> 00:51:16,747 - He says he did. - "Says he did"? Boy! How do you like that? 977 00:51:16,832 --> 00:51:19,792 - Now, look, witnesses can make mistakes. - Sure, when you want them to, they do. 978 00:51:19,877 --> 00:51:22,128 Or when he wants them to, they do. You know what I mean? 979 00:51:22,213 --> 00:51:24,047 - Keep the yelling down! - Oh, you keep saying that. 980 00:51:24,132 --> 00:51:25,841 Maybe what we need is a little yelling in here. 981 00:51:25,926 --> 00:51:27,635 These guys keep going off every which way. 982 00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:29,637 Did hear the scream. Didn't hear the scream. 983 00:51:29,722 --> 00:51:32,891 What difference does it make? You people are talking only about the little details. 984 00:51:32,975 --> 00:51:35,477 You're forgetting the important stuff. I mean, all of a sudden, everybody here... 985 00:51:35,562 --> 00:51:37,939 - I want to call for another vote. - I'm talking here! 986 00:51:38,024 --> 00:51:41,694 There's another vote called for. Now let's take our seats. 987 00:51:45,574 --> 00:51:48,117 I never saw so much time spent on nothing. 988 00:51:48,201 --> 00:51:49,910 It only takes a second. 989 00:51:50,997 --> 00:51:54,417 Okay. I guess the fastest way is to find out who's voting not guilty. 990 00:51:54,501 --> 00:51:57,254 Now, all those voting not guilty, please raise your hands. 991 00:51:58,505 --> 00:52:02,092 Still the same. One, two, three not guilty. Nine guilty. 992 00:52:02,177 --> 00:52:03,845 So, now where are we? 993 00:52:03,928 --> 00:52:07,349 I'm telling you, we can yackety-yack until next Tuesday. Where's it all getting us? 994 00:52:07,433 --> 00:52:10,185 Pardon. I vote not guilty. 995 00:52:10,270 --> 00:52:13,271 Oh! 996 00:52:13,357 --> 00:52:16,650 What are ya talking about? I mean, we're all going crazy in here or something. 997 00:52:16,736 --> 00:52:20,531 The kid is guilty. Why don't you listen to the facts? 998 00:52:20,615 --> 00:52:22,866 Tell him, will ya? Now this is getting to be a joke. 999 00:52:22,951 --> 00:52:26,163 The vote is eight to four, favor of guilty. 1000 00:52:26,246 --> 00:52:29,917 What is this, love your underprivileged brother week or something? 1001 00:52:30,001 --> 00:52:32,503 I want you to get up and tell me why you changed your vote. 1002 00:52:32,587 --> 00:52:36,883 - Come on. Give me your reasons. - I don't have to defend my decision to you. 1003 00:52:36,967 --> 00:52:38,719 There is a reasonable doubt in my mind. 1004 00:52:38,803 --> 00:52:41,805 What reasonable doubt? That's nothing but words. Here, look at this. 1005 00:52:41,891 --> 00:52:46,812 The kid you just decided isn't guilty was seen ramming this into his father. 1006 00:52:46,896 --> 00:52:48,897 Now, what about this, Mr. Reasonable Doubt? 1007 00:52:48,981 --> 00:52:51,650 That's not the knife. Don't you remember? 1008 00:52:51,735 --> 00:52:53,903 Oh, brilliant. 1009 00:52:53,988 --> 00:52:56,280 I'm telling ya, this is the craziest. 1010 00:52:56,366 --> 00:52:58,534 I mean, what are we supposed to believe? 1011 00:52:58,618 --> 00:53:01,453 I mean, you're sittin' here, you're pulling stories out of thin air, you know? 1012 00:53:01,538 --> 00:53:05,250 A guy like this, if he's, uh, sitting ringside at the Dempsey-Firpo fight... 1013 00:53:05,335 --> 00:53:07,795 he'd be trying to tell you that, uh... 1014 00:53:07,878 --> 00:53:10,256 Look. Now, what about the old man? 1015 00:53:10,339 --> 00:53:12,926 Are we supposed to believe that he didn't get up and run to his door... 1016 00:53:13,009 --> 00:53:16,012 and see the kid tearing down the steps 15 seconds after the killing? 1017 00:53:16,097 --> 00:53:18,557 He's just saying so to be important, right? 1018 00:53:18,641 --> 00:53:21,436 - I mean, what's the point of the whole thing? - Wait. Hold it a second, will you? 1019 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,730 Oh, and the Baltimore rooter is heard from again now... 1020 00:53:23,814 --> 00:53:25,774 and pop-ups are fallin' for base hits wherever we look. 1021 00:53:25,859 --> 00:53:29,111 Hold it a second. Now, look - Did the old man say he ran to the door? 1022 00:53:29,195 --> 00:53:32,157 Ran, walked. What's the difference? He got on, didn't he? I mean, he got there, didn't he? 1023 00:53:32,241 --> 00:53:34,784 - No, now wait a second. - He said he ran. At least I think he did. 1024 00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:38,289 Look, I don't remember what he said, but I don't see how he could have run to the door. 1025 00:53:38,373 --> 00:53:40,749 Ηe said he went from his bedroom to the front door. 1026 00:53:40,834 --> 00:53:42,460 - Now, isn't that enough? - Where was the bedroom? 1027 00:53:42,545 --> 00:53:44,796 - It was down the hall somewhere. - I thought you remembered everything. 1028 00:53:44,881 --> 00:53:47,132 - Don't you remember that? - No. 1029 00:53:47,216 --> 00:53:49,428 Mr. Foreman, I'd like to see a diagram of the apartment. 1030 00:53:49,553 --> 00:53:52,763 - Why don't we just have 'em run the trial all over again so you can get everything straight? - Mr. Foreman. 1031 00:53:52,849 --> 00:53:55,477 How come you're the only one in this room wants to see exhibits all the time? 1032 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,270 - I want to see this one too. - And I'd like to stop wasting time. 1033 00:53:58,355 --> 00:54:01,191 If we're gonna start wading through all that nonsense about where the body was found... 1034 00:54:01,275 --> 00:54:03,235 We're not, not unless somebody else wants to. 1035 00:54:03,319 --> 00:54:05,029 But I'd like to find out if an old man... 1036 00:54:05,112 --> 00:54:07,490 who drags one foot when he walks 'cause he had a stroke last year... 1037 00:54:07,574 --> 00:54:09,992 can get from his bedroom to his front door in 15 seconds. 1038 00:54:10,077 --> 00:54:11,745 - He said 20 seconds. - Ηe said 15. 1039 00:54:11,828 --> 00:54:13,997 He said 20 seconds. What are you trying to distort... 1040 00:54:14,081 --> 00:54:17,335 - He said 15. - How does he know how long 15 seconds is? 1041 00:54:17,419 --> 00:54:19,086 You can't judge a thing like that. 1042 00:54:19,172 --> 00:54:21,548 - He said 15 seconds. - He was very positive about it. 1043 00:54:21,633 --> 00:54:23,842 He was an old man. Half the time he was confused. 1044 00:54:23,928 --> 00:54:26,220 How could he be positive about anything? 1045 00:54:33,897 --> 00:54:38,025 I don't see what you're going to prove here. The man said he saw the boy running out. 1046 00:54:38,110 --> 00:54:40,277 Well, let's see if the details bear him out. 1047 00:54:40,363 --> 00:54:43,241 As soon as the body hit the floor, he said he heard footsteps upstairs... 1048 00:54:43,324 --> 00:54:44,991 running toward the front door... 1049 00:54:45,077 --> 00:54:48,162 heard the upstairs door open, the footsteps start down the stairs. 1050 00:54:48,247 --> 00:54:50,374 He said he got to his own front door as fast as he could... 1051 00:54:50,458 --> 00:54:52,543 and he swore it couldn't have been more than 15 seconds. 1052 00:54:52,628 --> 00:54:54,294 Now, if the killer began running immediately... 1053 00:54:54,379 --> 00:54:56,589 - Maybe he didn't. - The old man said he did. 1054 00:54:56,674 --> 00:54:59,384 You ought to be at Atlantic City at that hairsplitters convention. 1055 00:55:00,678 --> 00:55:02,804 Hey, why don't you stop makin' smart remarks all the time, huh? 1056 00:55:02,890 --> 00:55:06,016 My friend, for your three dollars a day, you have to listen to everything, you know? 1057 00:55:06,102 --> 00:55:07,811 Now that you've got that thing in here, what about it? 1058 00:55:07,895 --> 00:55:10,063 All right. Here's the apartment where the killing took place. 1059 00:55:10,147 --> 00:55:13,191 The old man's apartment was directly beneath and exactly the same. 1060 00:55:13,277 --> 00:55:16,487 Here are the el tracks, the bedroom, living room, kitchen, bathroom. 1061 00:55:16,573 --> 00:55:18,574 Here's the hall. Here are the stairs. 1062 00:55:18,658 --> 00:55:20,909 Now, the old man was in this bedroom right here. 1063 00:55:20,994 --> 00:55:23,663 He says he crossed to the door and walked down the hall... 1064 00:55:23,746 --> 00:55:26,709 opened the front door just in time to see the boy running down the stairs. 1065 00:55:26,792 --> 00:55:30,129 - Am I right so far? - That's the story, for the 19th time. 1066 00:55:30,213 --> 00:55:33,757 - Fifteen seconds after the body hit the floor. - Correct. 1067 00:55:33,843 --> 00:55:35,885 Now, let's see. It was... 1068 00:55:35,970 --> 00:55:39,974 It's 12 feet from the bed to the door. The hall is 43 feet. 1069 00:55:40,057 --> 00:55:43,269 He would have had to walk 12 feet, open the bedroom door... 1070 00:55:43,353 --> 00:55:46,982 walk 43 feet down and open the front door all in 15 seconds. 1071 00:55:47,065 --> 00:55:49,776 - Do you think he could have done it? - Sure he could have done it. 1072 00:55:49,861 --> 00:55:52,447 He can walk only very slowly. They had to help him into the witness chair. 1073 00:55:52,531 --> 00:55:54,198 You make it sound like a long walk. 1074 00:55:54,282 --> 00:55:56,618 For an old man who had a stroke, it is a long walk. 1075 00:55:56,702 --> 00:56:00,122 - Oh! What are you doing? - I'm gonna try it, see how long it took him. 1076 00:56:00,248 --> 00:56:03,586 What do you mean, you want to try it? Why didn't his lawyer bring it up if it's so important? 1077 00:56:03,711 --> 00:56:07,339 - Maybe he just didn't think about it, huh? - What do you mean, didn't think of it? You think the man's an idiot or something? 1078 00:56:07,423 --> 00:56:08,966 - It's an obvious thing. - Did you think of it? 1079 00:56:09,050 --> 00:56:10,717 Listen, smart guy. Don't matter whether I thought of it. 1080 00:56:10,803 --> 00:56:13,012 He didn't bring it up because he knew it would hurt his case. What do you think of that? 1081 00:56:13,138 --> 00:56:16,975 Maybe he didn't bring it up because it would have meant bullying and badgering a helpless old man. 1082 00:56:17,060 --> 00:56:20,396 You know that doesn't sit very well with a jury. Most lawyers avoid it if they can. 1083 00:56:20,481 --> 00:56:23,191 - So, what kind of a bum is he then? - That's what I've been asking, buddy. 1084 00:56:23,276 --> 00:56:26,320 Pass me that chair, will you? Those two chairs are the old man's bed. 1085 00:56:26,403 --> 00:56:29,281 I just paced off 12 feet across the room. This will be the bedroom door. 1086 00:56:29,367 --> 00:56:31,993 Oh, that's crazy. You can't recreate a thing like that. 1087 00:56:32,077 --> 00:56:34,287 - I'd like to see it. - The hall was 43 feet. 1088 00:56:34,372 --> 00:56:36,373 I'll pace from that wall and back again. 1089 00:56:37,668 --> 00:56:41,505 Look, this is absolutely insane. What are you wasting everybody's time in here for? 1090 00:56:41,588 --> 00:56:44,466 According to you, it'll only take 15 seconds. Now, we can spare that, see. 1091 00:56:48,430 --> 00:56:50,097 Come on. Knock it off. 1092 00:56:50,183 --> 00:56:51,683 Okay. 1093 00:56:51,767 --> 00:56:53,811 Okay. Okay, killer. 1094 00:56:53,894 --> 00:56:55,479 Yeah. 1095 00:56:57,817 --> 00:56:59,859 Will you stand right there and mark the front door? 1096 00:56:59,944 --> 00:57:02,445 It was chain-locked according to the testimony, remember? 1097 00:57:02,530 --> 00:57:04,699 - Has anybody got a watch with a second hand? - I have. 1098 00:57:04,783 --> 00:57:07,201 When you want me to start, stamp your foot. That'll be the body falling. 1099 00:57:07,285 --> 00:57:09,203 You can time me from there. 1100 00:57:09,288 --> 00:57:11,373 What are we gonna do, play charades now? 1101 00:57:11,456 --> 00:57:13,500 - Come on! What are we waiting for? - Okay, I'm ready. 1102 00:57:13,585 --> 00:57:15,503 Well, I want to wait till the second hand reaches 60. 1103 00:57:15,587 --> 00:57:17,505 Oh, come on. 1104 00:57:24,222 --> 00:57:27,225 Come on. Speed it up. He could walk twice as fast as that. 1105 00:57:28,685 --> 00:57:31,145 You want me to walk faster than that, I will. 1106 00:57:48,042 --> 00:57:50,502 Lock. Door. Stop. 1107 00:57:50,587 --> 00:57:52,589 - Right. - What's the time? 1108 00:57:52,672 --> 00:57:55,924 Uh, exactly 41 seconds. 1109 00:57:56,010 --> 00:57:58,261 This is what I think happened. 1110 00:57:58,345 --> 00:58:01,181 The old man heard the fight between the boy and his father a few hours earlier. 1111 00:58:01,266 --> 00:58:04,101 Then when he's lying in bed, he heard the body hit the floor in the boy's apartment... 1112 00:58:04,187 --> 00:58:07,689 heard the woman scream from across the street, got to his front door as fast as he could... 1113 00:58:07,774 --> 00:58:10,359 heard somebody racing down the stairs and assumed it was the boy. 1114 00:58:10,443 --> 00:58:12,278 - I think that's possible. - Assumed? 1115 00:58:12,361 --> 00:58:14,863 Oh. 1116 00:58:14,948 --> 00:58:20,912 Brother, I've seen all kinds of dishonesty in my day, but this little display takes the cake. 1117 00:58:20,998 --> 00:58:25,710 You all come in here with your hearts bleeding all over the floor about slum kids and injustice. 1118 00:58:25,794 --> 00:58:27,796 You listen to some fairy tales. 1119 00:58:27,881 --> 00:58:30,173 Suddenly you start getting through to some of these old ladies. 1120 00:58:30,259 --> 00:58:33,219 Well, you're not getting through to me. I've had enough. 1121 00:58:33,303 --> 00:58:35,347 What's the matter with you guys? 1122 00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:38,141 You all know he's guilty! He's got to burn! 1123 00:58:38,226 --> 00:58:40,018 You're letting him slip through our fingers. 1124 00:58:40,103 --> 00:58:42,314 "Slip through our fingers"? Are you his executioner? 1125 00:58:42,397 --> 00:58:44,066 I'm one of 'em! 1126 00:58:45,235 --> 00:58:47,069 Perhaps you'd like to pull the switch. 1127 00:58:47,153 --> 00:58:49,155 For this kid, you bet I would. 1128 00:58:49,239 --> 00:58:52,492 I feel sorry for you. What it must feel like to want to pull the switch. 1129 00:58:53,369 --> 00:58:57,289 Ever since you walked into this room, you've been acting like a self-appointed public avenger. 1130 00:58:57,374 --> 00:59:01,670 You want to see this boy die because you personally want it, not because of the facts. 1131 00:59:01,753 --> 00:59:03,922 - You're a sadist. - You... 1132 00:59:04,006 --> 00:59:07,843 Let me go! I'll kill him. I'll kill him! 1133 00:59:07,927 --> 00:59:10,346 You don't really mean you'll kill me, do you? 1134 00:59:17,647 --> 00:59:19,983 Is there anything wrong, gentlemen? I heard some noise. 1135 00:59:20,067 --> 00:59:24,070 Oh, no. Everything's all right. We're just - You know, friendly little argument. It's... 1136 00:59:24,155 --> 00:59:27,449 Um, listen, we're through with that diagram. You can take it if you want. 1137 00:59:28,827 --> 00:59:30,494 Here you are. Thank you. 1138 00:59:36,043 --> 00:59:38,129 What are you lookin' at? 1139 00:59:58,904 --> 01:00:00,947 I suppose somebody has to start it off again. 1140 01:00:01,032 --> 01:00:04,744 - I beg pardon. - "I beg pardon." What are you so polite about? 1141 01:00:04,828 --> 01:00:06,913 For the same reason you're not. 1142 01:00:06,997 --> 01:00:08,998 It's the way I was brought up. 1143 01:00:10,919 --> 01:00:12,836 This fighting... 1144 01:00:12,921 --> 01:00:14,963 That's not why we are here, to fight. 1145 01:00:15,049 --> 01:00:17,424 We have a responsibility. 1146 01:00:18,594 --> 01:00:23,183 This, I have always thought, is a remarkable thing about democracy... 1147 01:00:23,266 --> 01:00:25,142 that we are... 1148 01:00:26,353 --> 01:00:28,939 Uh, what is the word? 1149 01:00:29,022 --> 01:00:32,109 Notified. That we are notified by mail... 1150 01:00:32,193 --> 01:00:36,530 to come down to this place to decide on the guilt or innocence... 1151 01:00:36,616 --> 01:00:40,661 of a man we have never heard of before. 1152 01:00:40,744 --> 01:00:45,291 We have nothing to gain or lose by - by our verdict. 1153 01:00:46,210 --> 01:00:49,338 This is one of the reasons why we are strong. 1154 01:00:50,632 --> 01:00:53,468 We should not make it a personal thing. 1155 01:00:54,804 --> 01:00:56,471 Thank you. 1156 01:00:57,682 --> 01:00:59,975 If nobody else has an idea, I may have a cutie here. 1157 01:01:00,059 --> 01:01:02,812 I mean, I haven't given it much thought, but let's throw it out on the stoop... 1158 01:01:02,895 --> 01:01:04,522 and see if the cat licks it up. 1159 01:01:04,606 --> 01:01:06,941 - The cat licks it up? - Yeah. If the boy... 1160 01:01:11,448 --> 01:01:13,574 Look how dark it's getting out there. 1161 01:01:13,658 --> 01:01:16,119 I'll bet we're gonna have a storm now. 1162 01:01:17,914 --> 01:01:20,374 Boy, oh, boy. It's really hot, huh? 1163 01:01:21,877 --> 01:01:24,672 Pardon me, but don't you ever sweat? 1164 01:01:26,090 --> 01:01:28,259 No, I don't. 1165 01:01:28,343 --> 01:01:30,345 Well, listen. I, uh... 1166 01:01:30,429 --> 01:01:33,598 I was wondering if, uh, maybe... 1167 01:01:33,682 --> 01:01:35,976 maybe we should take another vote. 1168 01:01:36,060 --> 01:01:40,356 Oh, great. Maybe we can follow this one up with a little dancing and refreshments, huh? 1169 01:01:40,441 --> 01:01:42,232 - Hmm. - Mr. Foreman? 1170 01:01:43,027 --> 01:01:46,571 Well, that's okay with me. Anyone doesn't want to vote? 1171 01:01:46,656 --> 01:01:49,867 - Hey, come on. Come on. - I'm sorry. 1172 01:01:49,951 --> 01:01:53,455 I think we ought to have an open ballot - call out our votes, you know. 1173 01:01:53,538 --> 01:01:55,750 Let's see who stands where. 1174 01:01:55,833 --> 01:01:58,335 That sounds fair to me. Anyone object? 1175 01:02:01,089 --> 01:02:03,799 Okay. I'll call off your jury numbers. One. 1176 01:02:04,802 --> 01:02:07,596 Oh, that's me. I vote guilty. 1177 01:02:07,681 --> 01:02:09,473 Two? 1178 01:02:09,558 --> 01:02:11,059 Not guilty. 1179 01:02:11,602 --> 01:02:14,438 - Number three? - Guilty. 1180 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,982 Number four? 1181 01:02:18,485 --> 01:02:20,277 Guilty. 1182 01:02:20,362 --> 01:02:23,114 - Number five? - Not guilty. 1183 01:02:24,201 --> 01:02:27,495 - Number six? - Not guilty. 1184 01:02:28,497 --> 01:02:30,165 Number seven? 1185 01:02:30,249 --> 01:02:31,958 Guilty. 1186 01:02:32,043 --> 01:02:34,085 Number eight? 1187 01:02:34,171 --> 01:02:35,838 Not guilty. 1188 01:02:37,174 --> 01:02:40,093 - Number nine? - Not guilty. 1189 01:02:40,177 --> 01:02:42,346 - Number 10? - Guilty. 1190 01:02:44,140 --> 01:02:46,183 Number 11? 1191 01:02:46,268 --> 01:02:48,103 Not guilty. 1192 01:02:48,186 --> 01:02:49,687 Number 12? 1193 01:02:50,606 --> 01:02:52,941 Number 12. 1194 01:02:53,026 --> 01:02:54,526 Guilty. 1195 01:03:00,451 --> 01:03:02,536 The vote is now six to six. 1196 01:03:02,620 --> 01:03:05,790 Yeah, right. And we go into extra innings here, huh? 1197 01:03:08,210 --> 01:03:12,714 Six to six. I'm telling you, some of you people in here must be out of your minds. 1198 01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:14,633 A kid like that. 1199 01:03:14,717 --> 01:03:17,971 I don't think the kind of boy he is has anything to do with it. 1200 01:03:18,055 --> 01:03:20,141 The facts are supposed to determine the case. 1201 01:03:20,224 --> 01:03:22,394 Don't give me that! I'm sick and tired of facts! 1202 01:03:22,477 --> 01:03:24,479 You can twist them any way you like. You know what I mean? 1203 01:03:24,563 --> 01:03:27,148 That's exactly the point this gentleman has been making. 1204 01:03:27,233 --> 01:03:30,153 - Oh! - I mean, you keep shouting at the top of your lungs. 1205 01:03:31,822 --> 01:03:33,739 I'd like to be a few years younger. 1206 01:03:33,824 --> 01:03:35,741 That man gets on my... 1207 01:03:39,121 --> 01:03:41,957 - My, it's hot in here, isn't it? - Do you want a drink of water? 1208 01:03:42,041 --> 01:03:45,753 No. No, thanks. Thanks. 1209 01:03:53,598 --> 01:03:55,390 It's gonna rain. 1210 01:03:55,474 --> 01:03:57,725 Well, how'd you figure that out, killer? 1211 01:03:58,979 --> 01:04:00,854 How come you changed your vote? 1212 01:04:00,938 --> 01:04:03,356 Well, it just seemed to me there was room for doubt. 1213 01:04:03,443 --> 01:04:05,651 You haven't got a leg to stand on. You know that, I hope. 1214 01:04:05,736 --> 01:04:08,739 I don't feel that way. There were a lot of details that never came out. 1215 01:04:08,823 --> 01:04:12,368 - Yeah. Well, good luck. - Oh, come on. You're like everybody else. 1216 01:04:12,452 --> 01:04:14,662 You think too much. You get mixed up. 1217 01:04:15,916 --> 01:04:19,878 - You know what I mean? - Now, listen. I don't think you have any right... 1218 01:04:19,961 --> 01:04:22,547 Loudmouth. 1219 01:05:15,276 --> 01:05:17,779 Look at that come down, will you? 1220 01:05:18,948 --> 01:05:20,824 You know... 1221 01:05:20,907 --> 01:05:23,410 this reminds me of a storm we had last... 1222 01:05:23,495 --> 01:05:26,955 Oh, when was that? November... 1223 01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,126 I don't know. Something. It was quite a storm we had there. 1224 01:05:30,211 --> 01:05:32,587 It was right in the middle of a game. 1225 01:05:32,672 --> 01:05:35,299 Uh, we were behind 7-6... 1226 01:05:35,383 --> 01:05:37,969 but we just started to move the ball, right off the tackle. 1227 01:05:38,053 --> 01:05:40,847 Started cutting right - slash here and slash right in... 1228 01:05:40,931 --> 01:05:42,725 cut right through. 1229 01:05:42,809 --> 01:05:45,311 And, uh... 1230 01:05:45,395 --> 01:05:47,604 We had this kid Slattery, you know? 1231 01:05:48,774 --> 01:05:52,152 A real - He was an ox. You know, a real ox. 1232 01:05:52,236 --> 01:05:54,739 I wish I had another one just like him. 1233 01:05:54,823 --> 01:05:59,327 I forgot to tell you. I'm the assistant head coach at the Andrew J. McCorkle High School. 1234 01:05:59,412 --> 01:06:01,496 - Oh, yeah? - That's out in Queens. 1235 01:06:01,581 --> 01:06:04,333 And, uh, anyway... 1236 01:06:04,418 --> 01:06:06,502 we're starting to move along real nice. 1237 01:06:06,586 --> 01:06:09,756 Their whole line is just - they're just coming apart. 1238 01:06:11,050 --> 01:06:14,804 And it starts to come down cats and dogs, just like this. 1239 01:06:14,888 --> 01:06:17,514 Just whoosh - you know, right down. 1240 01:06:18,810 --> 01:06:22,188 Well, that was murder, you know? 1241 01:06:22,271 --> 01:06:24,858 I swear, I - I nearly bawled. 1242 01:06:24,941 --> 01:06:27,277 You just - You couldn't go nowhere. 1243 01:06:28,529 --> 01:06:29,864 Well. 1244 01:06:45,508 --> 01:06:48,009 Hey, what is it with this fan here? How come... 1245 01:06:55,769 --> 01:06:57,521 Hey! Ηuh? 1246 01:06:57,605 --> 01:07:00,900 Must have been on the same switch with the lights. 1247 01:07:01,902 --> 01:07:05,072 Well, things are looking up here, huh? 1248 01:07:05,739 --> 01:07:07,241 Yeah, huh? 1249 01:07:12,081 --> 01:07:14,082 Boy. That's better. 1250 01:07:20,757 --> 01:07:22,258 Hey! 1251 01:07:22,343 --> 01:07:24,010 Two points. 1252 01:07:28,016 --> 01:07:30,017 Any of you guys ever go to the Garden? 1253 01:07:32,312 --> 01:07:35,190 That's a damn stupid thing to do. 1254 01:07:35,275 --> 01:07:37,443 Oh, I'm sorry. I, uh... 1255 01:07:38,486 --> 01:07:39,862 You know? 1256 01:07:41,573 --> 01:07:43,073 Pardon me. 1257 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,495 Well, how do you like it? Even Steven. 1258 01:07:46,580 --> 01:07:48,957 Pretty surprising, isn't it? 1259 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:50,542 Yes. 1260 01:07:52,335 --> 01:07:55,839 Say, that business before, when that tall guy - what's-his-name... 1261 01:07:55,923 --> 01:07:58,634 was trying to bait me - That doesn't prove anything. 1262 01:07:58,719 --> 01:08:01,305 I'm a pretty excitable person. 1263 01:08:01,388 --> 01:08:05,225 I mean, where does he come off calling me a public avenger, sadist and everything? 1264 01:08:05,311 --> 01:08:08,813 Anyone in his right mind would blow his stack, huh? 1265 01:08:08,897 --> 01:08:11,191 He was just trying to bait me. 1266 01:08:11,274 --> 01:08:13,276 He did an excellent job. 1267 01:08:16,072 --> 01:08:18,283 I'll tell you what I think. We're going nowhere here. 1268 01:08:18,366 --> 01:08:20,910 I'm ready to walk into court right now and declare a hung jury. 1269 01:08:20,995 --> 01:08:22,829 There's no point in this thing going on any more. 1270 01:08:22,914 --> 01:08:24,248 Yeah. I go for that too. 1271 01:08:24,332 --> 01:08:27,168 Listen, let's take it in to the judge and let the kid take his chances with 12 other guys. 1272 01:08:27,252 --> 01:08:30,087 I don't think the judge will accept a hung jury. We haven't been in here very long. 1273 01:08:30,172 --> 01:08:31,840 Well, let's find out. 1274 01:08:31,925 --> 01:08:33,634 I'm not in favor of that. 1275 01:08:33,718 --> 01:08:36,929 Listen. This kid wouldn't stand a chance with another jury, and you know it. 1276 01:08:37,013 --> 01:08:39,849 Come on! We're hung. Nobody's gonna change his vote. Let's take it inside. 1277 01:08:39,935 --> 01:08:42,144 You still don't think there's room for reasonable doubt? 1278 01:08:42,228 --> 01:08:43,521 No, I don't. 1279 01:08:43,605 --> 01:08:44,897 Pardon. 1280 01:08:44,981 --> 01:08:48,234 Maybe you don't fully understand the term "reasonable doubt." 1281 01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:50,863 What do you mean I don't understand? 1282 01:08:51,948 --> 01:08:53,907 Boy, how do ya like this guy? 1283 01:08:53,992 --> 01:08:55,660 I'm tellin' ya, they're all alike. 1284 01:08:55,743 --> 01:08:58,580 They come over here, running for their life, and before they can take a deep breath... 1285 01:08:58,664 --> 01:09:01,041 they're telling us how to run the show, huh? 1286 01:09:01,125 --> 01:09:02,918 Boy, the arrogance of this guy. 1287 01:09:03,002 --> 01:09:07,590 Hey, all right. Let's stop the arguing for about two minutes in here. 1288 01:09:07,675 --> 01:09:10,052 Now, who's got something constructive to say? 1289 01:09:10,136 --> 01:09:13,681 I'd like to go over something, if you gentlemen don't mind. 1290 01:09:13,766 --> 01:09:16,434 An important point for the prosecution was the fact... 1291 01:09:16,519 --> 01:09:19,272 that after the boy claimed he'd been at the movies... 1292 01:09:19,355 --> 01:09:21,357 during the hours that the killing took place... 1293 01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:25,320 couldn't remember the names of the movies or the stars who appeared in them. 1294 01:09:25,404 --> 01:09:27,906 This gentleman here has put up that point in here several times. 1295 01:09:27,991 --> 01:09:29,449 That's correct. 1296 01:09:29,534 --> 01:09:31,411 It was the only alibi the boy offered... 1297 01:09:31,494 --> 01:09:33,997 and he himself couldn't back it up with any details at all. 1298 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,334 Putting yourself in the boy's place, do you think you could remember details... 1299 01:09:37,419 --> 01:09:40,879 after an upsetting experience such as being slapped in the face by your father? 1300 01:09:40,964 --> 01:09:44,175 I think so, if there were any special details to remember. 1301 01:09:44,260 --> 01:09:47,430 The boy couldn't remember the names of the movies he saw because be wasn't there that night. 1302 01:09:47,513 --> 01:09:49,557 According to the police testimony in court... 1303 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,768 the boy was questioned by the detectives in the kitchen of his apartment... 1304 01:09:52,853 --> 01:09:55,771 while the body of his father was lying on the floor in the bedroom. 1305 01:09:55,857 --> 01:09:58,442 Do you think you could remember details under those circumstances? 1306 01:09:58,526 --> 01:10:00,527 - I do. - Under great emotional stress? 1307 01:10:00,612 --> 01:10:03,115 - Under great emotional stress. - He remembered them correctly in court. 1308 01:10:03,198 --> 01:10:05,158 He named the pictures and the stars who played in them. 1309 01:10:05,243 --> 01:10:08,412 Yes. His lawyer took great pains to bring that out. 1310 01:10:08,496 --> 01:10:11,040 He had three months from the night of the murder to the day of the trial... 1311 01:10:11,125 --> 01:10:12,751 in which to memorize them. 1312 01:10:12,835 --> 01:10:15,504 It's not difficult for a lawyer to find out what played at a particular theater... 1313 01:10:15,588 --> 01:10:17,255 on a particular night. 1314 01:10:17,341 --> 01:10:20,968 I'll take the testimony of the policemen who interrogated the boy right after the murder... 1315 01:10:21,053 --> 01:10:23,471 when he couldn't remember a thing about the movies... 1316 01:10:23,557 --> 01:10:25,474 great emotional stress or not. 1317 01:10:25,558 --> 01:10:28,853 - I'd like to ask you a personal question. - Go ahead. 1318 01:10:28,937 --> 01:10:32,190 - Where were you last night? - I was home. 1319 01:10:32,274 --> 01:10:34,818 - How about the night before that? - Come on! What is this? 1320 01:10:34,903 --> 01:10:36,236 No, it's all right. 1321 01:10:36,321 --> 01:10:38,865 I left the office at 8:30 and went straight home and to bed. 1322 01:10:38,949 --> 01:10:40,617 And the night before that? 1323 01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:43,119 That was, uh, Tuesday night? 1324 01:10:43,203 --> 01:10:45,205 The night of the bridge tournament. I played bridge. 1325 01:10:45,289 --> 01:10:46,624 Monday night? 1326 01:10:46,708 --> 01:10:49,919 When you get down to New Year's Eve, 1954, let me know, huh? 1327 01:10:51,922 --> 01:10:53,882 Monday night? 1328 01:10:55,134 --> 01:10:58,137 Monday night, uh, my wife and I went to the movies. 1329 01:10:58,222 --> 01:10:59,847 - What did you see? - The Scarlet Circle. 1330 01:10:59,932 --> 01:11:03,184 - It was a clever whodunit. - What was the second feature? 1331 01:11:03,268 --> 01:11:05,896 The, um... 1332 01:11:05,980 --> 01:11:08,650 I'll tell you in a minute. The, uh... 1333 01:11:08,733 --> 01:11:12,904 Remarkable Mrs., uh, something... 1334 01:11:12,989 --> 01:11:15,449 The... 1335 01:11:15,534 --> 01:11:18,202 Mrs. Bainbridge. The Remarkable Mrs. Bainbridge. 1336 01:11:18,287 --> 01:11:21,039 I saw that. It's called The Amazing Mrs. Bainbridge. 1337 01:11:22,333 --> 01:11:24,711 Uh, yes. The Amazing Mrs. Bainbridge. I think that's right. 1338 01:11:24,794 --> 01:11:27,296 Who was in The Amazing Mrs. Bainbridge? 1339 01:11:27,381 --> 01:11:31,050 Barbara... Long, I think it was. 1340 01:11:31,136 --> 01:11:33,137 A dark, very pretty girl. 1341 01:11:34,472 --> 01:11:36,975 Ling or Long - something like that. 1342 01:11:37,058 --> 01:11:40,270 - Who else? - I'd never heard of them before. 1343 01:11:40,354 --> 01:11:44,776 It was a very inexpensive second feature with, uh, unknown... 1344 01:11:44,860 --> 01:11:47,988 And you weren't under an emotional stress, were you? 1345 01:11:50,908 --> 01:11:53,035 No. 1346 01:11:53,119 --> 01:11:54,788 I wasn't. 1347 01:11:56,665 --> 01:11:58,417 I think the point is made. 1348 01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:01,253 Big point! 1349 01:12:01,337 --> 01:12:03,505 You can talk till your tongue is draggin' on the floor. 1350 01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:07,678 The boy is guilty, period. You know what I mean, my friend? 1351 01:12:07,762 --> 01:12:11,015 - Who's got those cough drops? - They're all gone, my friend. 1352 01:12:13,018 --> 01:12:15,270 Oh, boy. Look at that rain. 1353 01:12:15,353 --> 01:12:17,731 There goes your ball game. 1354 01:12:17,815 --> 01:12:20,233 It's only a shower. 1355 01:12:20,319 --> 01:12:22,486 Besides, they got the infield covered. 1356 01:12:22,572 --> 01:12:25,740 Right. Say, could I see that knife a second, please? 1357 01:12:28,536 --> 01:12:30,871 Well, we're still tied up six to six. 1358 01:12:30,956 --> 01:12:32,957 Who's got a suggestion? 1359 01:12:33,042 --> 01:12:35,043 It's five after 6:00. Let's get some dinner. 1360 01:12:35,127 --> 01:12:37,587 Why don't we wait till 7:00, give it another hour, huh? 1361 01:12:37,671 --> 01:12:39,800 Okay with me. 1362 01:12:39,883 --> 01:12:42,051 Uh, there's something I'd like to say. 1363 01:12:42,135 --> 01:12:45,680 I mean, it's been bothering me a little, and as long as we're stuck. 1364 01:12:45,764 --> 01:12:49,644 Well, there was this whole business about the stab wound and how it was made... 1365 01:12:49,727 --> 01:12:51,354 the downward angle of it, you know? 1366 01:12:51,438 --> 01:12:53,440 Don't tell me we're gonna start with that again. 1367 01:12:53,524 --> 01:12:55,150 They've been over it and over it. 1368 01:12:55,234 --> 01:12:57,528 Well, I know they did, but I don't go along with it. 1369 01:12:57,612 --> 01:13:01,616 Now, the boy was 5 feet 7 inches tall. His father was 6'2... 1370 01:13:01,699 --> 01:13:03,868 That's a difference of seven inches. 1371 01:13:03,953 --> 01:13:06,621 It's a very awkward thing to stab down into the chest of someone... 1372 01:13:06,706 --> 01:13:08,707 who's more than half a foot taller than you are. 1373 01:13:08,792 --> 01:13:10,918 Give me that. 1374 01:13:11,003 --> 01:13:13,796 I'll give you a demonstration. Somebody get up. 1375 01:13:15,175 --> 01:13:17,092 You... 1376 01:13:21,599 --> 01:13:24,308 I want you to watch this 'cause I don't want to have to do it again. 1377 01:13:24,394 --> 01:13:27,145 I'll make myself about six or seven inches shorter, okay? 1378 01:13:27,230 --> 01:13:30,358 - It's about right. Maybe a little more. - Okay. A little more. 1379 01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:40,579 That's not funny. 1380 01:13:42,665 --> 01:13:46,502 Now, nobody's hurt. Right? 1381 01:13:47,170 --> 01:13:48,963 Right. Nobody hurt. 1382 01:13:52,426 --> 01:13:57,222 Now, this is the way I'd stab a man who was taller than I was. 1383 01:13:57,307 --> 01:13:59,767 Look at the angle - down and in. 1384 01:13:59,853 --> 01:14:01,937 And this is the way it was done. 1385 01:14:02,021 --> 01:14:04,190 Now tell me I'm wrong. 1386 01:14:06,401 --> 01:14:09,821 - Down and in. I guess there's no argument. - Hold it a minute, will ya? 1387 01:14:09,906 --> 01:14:11,740 Can you give me that? 1388 01:14:12,743 --> 01:14:14,660 Boy, I hate these things. 1389 01:14:14,744 --> 01:14:16,412 - Did you ever see a knife fight? - No. 1390 01:14:16,496 --> 01:14:18,080 - You? - No. 1391 01:14:18,165 --> 01:14:20,958 Anybody here ever see a knife fight? 1392 01:14:21,045 --> 01:14:23,837 Well, I have. You know, on my back stoop... 1393 01:14:23,923 --> 01:14:26,256 the lot across the street, backyard. 1394 01:14:26,342 --> 01:14:28,760 Switchblades came with the neighborhood where I lived. 1395 01:14:28,844 --> 01:14:32,097 It's funny I never thought of it before. I guess you try to forget those things. 1396 01:14:32,182 --> 01:14:35,559 - How do you use a switchblade? - Well, you'd never use it like this. 1397 01:14:37,313 --> 01:14:39,607 See, you use too much time switching hands. 1398 01:14:41,359 --> 01:14:43,860 Here's how - underhanded. 1399 01:14:46,574 --> 01:14:49,619 Anyone who's ever used a switch knife wouldn't handle it any other way. 1400 01:14:49,702 --> 01:14:52,329 - Are you sure? - I'm sure. 1401 01:14:52,413 --> 01:14:54,247 That's why they're made to open like that. 1402 01:14:54,333 --> 01:14:56,961 - You'd say the boy was pretty handy with a knife? - Mm-hmm. 1403 01:14:57,044 --> 01:15:00,214 You think he could have made the kind of wound that killed his father? 1404 01:15:00,297 --> 01:15:04,219 No. Not with the experience he'd had all his life handling these things. 1405 01:15:04,302 --> 01:15:06,304 I feel he'd have gone for him underhanded. 1406 01:15:06,388 --> 01:15:09,432 How do you know? Were you in the room when the father was killed? 1407 01:15:09,517 --> 01:15:11,519 No. Neither was anybody else. 1408 01:15:11,603 --> 01:15:14,814 So what are you giving us all this mumbo jumbo for? I don't believe it. 1409 01:15:14,899 --> 01:15:18,152 I don't think you can determine what type of wound the boy might or might not have made... 1410 01:15:18,236 --> 01:15:20,862 simply because he knew how to handle a knife. 1411 01:15:20,948 --> 01:15:23,282 What do you think? 1412 01:15:23,367 --> 01:15:25,451 - I don't know. - What do you mean you don't know? 1413 01:15:25,537 --> 01:15:27,371 I don't know. 1414 01:15:31,585 --> 01:15:33,586 How about you? 1415 01:15:33,671 --> 01:15:37,424 I don't know about the rest of them, but I'm getting a little tired of this yackety-yackin' back and forth. 1416 01:15:37,509 --> 01:15:40,969 It's gettin' us nowhere. So I guess I'll have to break it up. 1417 01:15:41,055 --> 01:15:43,598 I change my vote to not guilty. 1418 01:15:43,682 --> 01:15:47,019 - You what? - You heard me. I've had enough. 1419 01:15:47,103 --> 01:15:49,564 What do you mean you've had enough? That's no answer! 1420 01:15:49,648 --> 01:15:53,609 Hey, listen. You just take care of yourself, huh? You know? 1421 01:15:53,694 --> 01:15:57,656 He's right. That's not an answer. 1422 01:15:57,741 --> 01:16:00,702 What kind of a man are you? 1423 01:16:00,786 --> 01:16:03,912 You have sat here and voted guilty with everyone else... 1424 01:16:03,999 --> 01:16:08,251 because there are some baseball tickets burning a hole in your pocket. 1425 01:16:08,336 --> 01:16:12,590 And now you've changed your vote because you say you're sick of all the talking here? 1426 01:16:13,593 --> 01:16:15,052 Now listen, buddy! 1427 01:16:15,136 --> 01:16:19,806 Who tells you that you have the right to play like this with a man's life? 1428 01:16:19,892 --> 01:16:22,393 - Don't you care - - Now wait a minute! 1429 01:16:22,478 --> 01:16:26,483 - You can't talk like that to me! - I can talk like that to you. 1430 01:16:26,566 --> 01:16:28,443 If you want to vote not guilty... 1431 01:16:28,526 --> 01:16:30,904 then do it because you are convinced the man is not guilty... 1432 01:16:30,988 --> 01:16:32,781 not because you've had enough. 1433 01:16:32,865 --> 01:16:35,451 And if you think he is guilty, then vote that way. 1434 01:16:35,535 --> 01:16:38,746 Or don't you have the guts to do what you think is right? 1435 01:16:38,830 --> 01:16:41,083 - Now listen. - Guilty or not guilty? 1436 01:16:41,876 --> 01:16:45,463 - I told you, not guilty. - Why? 1437 01:16:47,132 --> 01:16:48,758 Look, I don't have to... 1438 01:16:48,842 --> 01:16:51,969 You do have to! Say it! Why? 1439 01:16:52,055 --> 01:16:54,515 All right. I don't, uh, think he's guilty. 1440 01:17:04,027 --> 01:17:05,653 I want another vote. 1441 01:17:05,737 --> 01:17:08,240 Okay. There's another vote called for. 1442 01:17:08,324 --> 01:17:11,201 I guess the quickest way is a show of hands. Anyone object? 1443 01:17:11,284 --> 01:17:14,204 Okay. All those voting not guilty, raise your hands. 1444 01:17:15,124 --> 01:17:20,295 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven... 1445 01:17:23,134 --> 01:17:24,801 eight. 1446 01:17:28,723 --> 01:17:30,850 Um, nine. 1447 01:17:31,851 --> 01:17:36,857 Um, all those voting guilty, raise your hands. 1448 01:17:36,941 --> 01:17:39,318 One, two, three. 1449 01:17:39,402 --> 01:17:41,903 Well, the vote's nine to three in favor of acquittal. 1450 01:17:42,906 --> 01:17:45,074 I don't understand you people! 1451 01:17:45,158 --> 01:17:47,327 I mean, all these picky little points you keep bringing up. 1452 01:17:47,411 --> 01:17:50,747 They don't mean nothing! You saw this kid just like I did. 1453 01:17:50,832 --> 01:17:54,334 You're not gonna tell me you believe that phony story about losing the knife... 1454 01:17:54,419 --> 01:17:56,421 and that business about being at the movies. 1455 01:17:56,505 --> 01:17:59,507 Look, you know how these people lie. It's born in them. 1456 01:17:59,593 --> 01:18:01,635 I mean, what the heck. I don't have to tell you. 1457 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,680 They don't know what the truth is. 1458 01:18:03,764 --> 01:18:07,475 And let me tell you, they don't need any real big reason to kill someone either. 1459 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,312 No, sir. 1460 01:18:09,396 --> 01:18:12,440 They get drunk! Oh, they're real big drinkers, all of 'em. 1461 01:18:12,524 --> 01:18:15,693 You know that. And bang - someone's lying in the gutter. 1462 01:18:15,778 --> 01:18:18,780 Well, nobody's blaming them for it. That's the way they are, by nature. 1463 01:18:18,865 --> 01:18:20,949 You know what I mean? Violent! 1464 01:18:21,035 --> 01:18:22,534 Where are you going? 1465 01:18:22,620 --> 01:18:25,622 Ηuman life don't mean as much to them as it does to us. 1466 01:18:26,625 --> 01:18:29,627 Look! They're lushing it up and fighting all the time... 1467 01:18:29,711 --> 01:18:31,713 and if somebody gets killed, so somebody gets killed! 1468 01:18:31,796 --> 01:18:33,172 They don't care! 1469 01:18:33,257 --> 01:18:35,467 Oh, sure, there's some good things about 'em too. 1470 01:18:35,551 --> 01:18:37,511 Look, I'm the first one to say that. 1471 01:18:37,596 --> 01:18:40,890 I've known a couple who were okay, but that's the exception, you know what I mean? 1472 01:18:40,973 --> 01:18:44,728 Most of 'em, it's like they have no feelings. They can do anything. 1473 01:18:44,812 --> 01:18:47,396 What's going on here? 1474 01:18:47,483 --> 01:18:49,525 I'm - I'm trying to tell ya... 1475 01:18:49,610 --> 01:18:51,611 you're making a big mistake, you people. 1476 01:18:51,695 --> 01:18:54,697 This kid is a liar! I know it. I know all about them. 1477 01:18:56,409 --> 01:18:58,577 Listen to me. They're no good. 1478 01:18:58,662 --> 01:19:00,996 There's not a one of 'em who's any good. 1479 01:19:03,042 --> 01:19:05,502 I mean, what - What's happening in here? 1480 01:19:05,587 --> 01:19:07,837 I'm speaking my piece, and you... 1481 01:19:09,049 --> 01:19:10,716 Listen to me. 1482 01:19:11,802 --> 01:19:13,262 I... 1483 01:19:13,346 --> 01:19:15,807 We're - This kid on trial here, his type... 1484 01:19:15,890 --> 01:19:17,892 Well, don't you know about them? 1485 01:19:19,853 --> 01:19:23,315 Th-There's - There's a danger here. 1486 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,484 These people are dangerous. 1487 01:19:25,568 --> 01:19:28,612 They're... wild. 1488 01:19:28,698 --> 01:19:30,615 Listen to me. 1489 01:19:30,700 --> 01:19:33,035 - Listen. - I have. 1490 01:19:33,119 --> 01:19:36,122 Now sit down and don't open your mouth again. 1491 01:19:40,044 --> 01:19:42,796 I was only trying to... tell you. 1492 01:20:19,298 --> 01:20:23,595 It's always difficult to keep personal prejudice out of a thing like this. 1493 01:20:24,721 --> 01:20:28,725 Wherever you run into it, prejudice always obscures the truth. 1494 01:20:30,311 --> 01:20:32,688 I don't really know what the truth is. 1495 01:20:32,773 --> 01:20:35,692 I don't suppose anybody will ever really know. 1496 01:20:36,986 --> 01:20:40,948 Nine of us now seem to feel that the defendant is innocent. 1497 01:20:41,032 --> 01:20:44,036 But we're just gambling on probabilities. 1498 01:20:44,119 --> 01:20:46,080 We may be wrong. 1499 01:20:46,163 --> 01:20:48,540 We may be trying to let a guilty man go free. 1500 01:20:48,625 --> 01:20:50,085 I don't know. 1501 01:20:50,168 --> 01:20:52,170 Nobody really can. 1502 01:20:52,253 --> 01:20:54,631 But we have a reasonable doubt... 1503 01:20:54,714 --> 01:20:58,219 and that's something that's very valuable in our system. 1504 01:20:58,302 --> 01:21:02,848 No jury can declare a man guilty unless it's sure. 1505 01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:06,686 We nine can't understand... 1506 01:21:06,771 --> 01:21:09,481 how you three are still so sure. 1507 01:21:10,317 --> 01:21:12,318 - Maybe you can tell us. - I'll try. 1508 01:21:13,695 --> 01:21:17,199 You've made some excellent points, but I still believe the boy is guilty of murder... 1509 01:21:17,283 --> 01:21:18,993 and I have two reasons. 1510 01:21:19,077 --> 01:21:22,206 One, the evidence given by the woman across the street... 1511 01:21:22,289 --> 01:21:24,916 who actually saw the murder committed. 1512 01:21:24,999 --> 01:21:27,586 As far as I'm concerned, that's the most important testimony. 1513 01:21:27,670 --> 01:21:30,923 And two, the fact that she described the stabbing by saying... 1514 01:21:31,007 --> 01:21:36,638 she saw the boy raise his arm over his head and stab down into the father's chest. 1515 01:21:36,722 --> 01:21:38,766 She saw him do it the wrong way. 1516 01:21:38,850 --> 01:21:40,769 That's absolutely right. 1517 01:21:40,853 --> 01:21:43,438 Let's talk about this woman for a moment. 1518 01:21:43,523 --> 01:21:46,608 She said she went to bed about 11:00 that night. 1519 01:21:46,693 --> 01:21:50,279 Her bed was next to the window, and she could look out while lying down... 1520 01:21:50,364 --> 01:21:54,452 and see directly into the boy's room across the street. 1521 01:21:54,535 --> 01:21:57,163 She tossed and turned for over an hour, unable to sleep. 1522 01:21:57,247 --> 01:22:01,418 Finally, she turned toward the window at about 10 minutes after 12:00... 1523 01:22:01,501 --> 01:22:06,631 and, as she looked out, she saw the killing through the windows of a passing el train. 1524 01:22:06,717 --> 01:22:09,427 She said the lights went out immediately after the killing... 1525 01:22:09,511 --> 01:22:14,308 but that she got a good look at the boy in the act of stabbing his father. 1526 01:22:15,310 --> 01:22:19,147 As far as I can see it, this is unshakable testimony. 1527 01:22:19,898 --> 01:22:22,568 - Well, that's the whole case. - What do you think? 1528 01:22:27,949 --> 01:22:29,618 How about you? 1529 01:22:31,244 --> 01:22:33,705 I-I don't know. 1530 01:22:33,790 --> 01:22:35,791 So much evidence to sift. 1531 01:22:35,876 --> 01:22:37,835 This is a pretty complicated business. 1532 01:22:37,921 --> 01:22:41,715 Frankly, I don't see how you can vote for acquittal. 1533 01:22:41,799 --> 01:22:44,134 It's not so easy to arrange all the evidence in order. 1534 01:22:44,220 --> 01:22:46,262 You can throw out all the other evidence! 1535 01:22:46,347 --> 01:22:49,933 The woman saw him do it! What else do you want? 1536 01:22:50,018 --> 01:22:51,894 - Yeah, well, maybe - - Let's vote on it. 1537 01:22:51,978 --> 01:22:54,146 Okay. There's another vote called for. 1538 01:22:54,232 --> 01:22:56,066 Anybody object? 1539 01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:59,194 All right. I'm changing my vote. He's guilty. 1540 01:22:59,278 --> 01:23:01,696 Anybody else? The vote is eight to four. 1541 01:23:01,781 --> 01:23:05,368 Why is this such a personal triumph for you - this one vote? 1542 01:23:05,451 --> 01:23:08,914 Okay. I say we're a hung jury. I say we take it in to the judge. 1543 01:23:08,997 --> 01:23:11,708 Ηow about it? I want to hear arguments. 1544 01:23:11,793 --> 01:23:14,294 You, you're the leader of the cause. What about it? 1545 01:23:16,549 --> 01:23:18,384 Let's go over it again. 1546 01:23:18,468 --> 01:23:20,386 We've been over it again! 1547 01:23:20,470 --> 01:23:25,267 The boy in the gray flannel suit here is bouncin' backwards and forwards like a tennis ball. 1548 01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:29,188 No point in getting nasty and trying to turn this into a contest. 1549 01:23:31,148 --> 01:23:32,608 Okay. 1550 01:23:32,692 --> 01:23:35,736 Maybe we can talk about setting some kind of time limit. 1551 01:23:35,822 --> 01:23:37,947 Yeah, once around for the deal, huh? 1552 01:23:38,658 --> 01:23:42,412 It's a quarter after 6:00. 1553 01:23:42,496 --> 01:23:44,455 Someone before mentioned 7:00. 1554 01:23:44,540 --> 01:23:46,916 I think that's a point at which we might begin to discuss... 1555 01:23:47,002 --> 01:23:50,254 the question of whether we're a hung jury or not. 1556 01:23:50,337 --> 01:23:52,006 Don't you feel well? 1557 01:23:53,342 --> 01:23:55,303 I feel perfectly well, thank you. 1558 01:23:55,386 --> 01:23:58,096 I was saying that 7:00 would be a reasonable time. 1559 01:23:58,181 --> 01:24:01,100 Uh, the reason I asked about that was because, uh... 1560 01:24:01,184 --> 01:24:02,768 you were rubbing your nose like... 1561 01:24:02,853 --> 01:24:05,522 Oh, I'm sorry for interrupting... 1562 01:24:05,606 --> 01:24:08,817 but you made a gesture that reminded me of something. 1563 01:24:08,901 --> 01:24:10,944 I'm trying to settle something here. Do you mind? 1564 01:24:11,030 --> 01:24:13,031 Well, I think this is important. 1565 01:24:14,116 --> 01:24:15,909 Thank you. 1566 01:24:15,994 --> 01:24:18,622 Now then, I'm sure you'll pardon me for this... 1567 01:24:18,705 --> 01:24:21,625 but I was wondering why you were rubbing your nose like that. 1568 01:24:21,708 --> 01:24:23,375 Oh, come on, will ya? 1569 01:24:23,461 --> 01:24:27,632 At this point, I happen to be talking to the gentleman sitting next to you! 1570 01:24:27,716 --> 01:24:30,968 Now, why were you rubbing your nose like that? 1571 01:24:31,053 --> 01:24:35,140 Well, if it's any of your business, I was rubbing it because it bothers me a little. 1572 01:24:35,224 --> 01:24:36,850 Oh. I'm sorry. 1573 01:24:36,934 --> 01:24:40,813 - Is it - Is it because of your eyeglasses? - It is. 1574 01:24:40,898 --> 01:24:42,649 Now can we get on to something else? 1575 01:24:42,733 --> 01:24:47,322 Your eyeglasses made those two deep impressions on the sides of your nose. 1576 01:24:47,405 --> 01:24:49,574 I hadn't noticed that before. 1577 01:24:49,659 --> 01:24:53,161 - That must be annoying. - It is very annoying. 1578 01:24:53,246 --> 01:24:55,163 Well, I wouldn't know about that. 1579 01:24:55,247 --> 01:24:58,584 I've never worn eyeglasses. Twenty-twenty. 1580 01:24:58,669 --> 01:25:01,213 Listen, will you come on already with the optometrist bit? 1581 01:25:03,131 --> 01:25:06,678 The woman who testified that she saw the killing... 1582 01:25:06,761 --> 01:25:10,306 had those same marks on the sides of her nose. 1583 01:25:11,308 --> 01:25:13,519 Holy smokes! You know, he's right. 1584 01:25:13,603 --> 01:25:15,269 Please. 1585 01:25:15,356 --> 01:25:19,109 Just give me a minute, and I'll be finished. 1586 01:25:19,193 --> 01:25:22,028 I don't know if anyone else noticed that about her. 1587 01:25:22,113 --> 01:25:25,991 I didn't think of it then, but I've been going over her face... 1588 01:25:27,035 --> 01:25:29,162 in my mind. 1589 01:25:29,246 --> 01:25:31,248 She had those same marks. 1590 01:25:32,250 --> 01:25:36,421 - She kept rubbing them in court. - He's right. She did do that a lot. 1591 01:25:37,465 --> 01:25:42,135 This woman was about, uh - about 45 years old. 1592 01:25:42,221 --> 01:25:46,181 She was making a tremendous effort to look 35... 1593 01:25:46,267 --> 01:25:48,476 for her first public appearance. 1594 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,813 Heavy makeup, dyed hair... 1595 01:25:51,898 --> 01:25:55,776 brand-new clothes that should have been worn by a younger woman. 1596 01:25:55,862 --> 01:25:57,529 No glasses. 1597 01:25:57,613 --> 01:25:59,281 No, women do that. 1598 01:25:59,364 --> 01:26:01,783 See if you can get the mental picture of it. 1599 01:26:01,868 --> 01:26:03,702 What do you mean, no glasses? 1600 01:26:03,787 --> 01:26:06,497 How do you know whether she wore glasses? Just 'cause she was rubbing her nose? 1601 01:26:06,582 --> 01:26:08,792 Now, she had those marks. I saw 'em. 1602 01:26:08,877 --> 01:26:10,795 So what? What do ya think that means? 1603 01:26:10,879 --> 01:26:14,089 - Listen, I'm getting so sick of your yelling in here! - Come on. Forget it. 1604 01:26:14,175 --> 01:26:17,177 Hey, listen. Listen, he's right. I saw them too. 1605 01:26:17,261 --> 01:26:20,389 I was the closest one to her. She had these, uh - these things on the side of her nose. 1606 01:26:20,474 --> 01:26:23,685 - What do you call those on the side? - Well, what point are you making here? 1607 01:26:23,769 --> 01:26:27,648 She had dyed hair, marks on her nose. Well, what does that mean? 1608 01:26:27,732 --> 01:26:32,028 Could those marks be made by anything other than eyeglasses? 1609 01:26:35,616 --> 01:26:37,950 No, they couldn't. 1610 01:26:38,036 --> 01:26:40,036 I didn't see any marks! 1611 01:26:41,664 --> 01:26:43,374 I did. 1612 01:26:43,458 --> 01:26:46,002 Strange, but I didn't think about it before. 1613 01:26:46,085 --> 01:26:48,214 Well, what about the lawyer? Why didn't he say something? 1614 01:26:48,298 --> 01:26:51,216 There are 12 people in here concentrating on this case. 1615 01:26:51,301 --> 01:26:53,386 Eleven of us didn't think of it either. 1616 01:26:53,470 --> 01:26:56,640 Well, what about the district attorney? Do you think he'd pull a trick like that? 1617 01:26:56,724 --> 01:26:58,600 Have her testify without her glasses? 1618 01:26:58,726 --> 01:27:02,648 Did you ever see a woman who had to wear glasses and didn't want to because she thinks they spoil her looks? 1619 01:27:02,731 --> 01:27:06,235 Okay. She had marks on her nose. 1620 01:27:06,319 --> 01:27:09,989 I'm giving you that. From glasses, right? 1621 01:27:10,073 --> 01:27:14,245 She didn't want to wear 'em out of the house so people would think she's gorgeous. 1622 01:27:14,329 --> 01:27:18,916 But when she saw this kid killing his father, she was in the house alone. 1623 01:27:18,999 --> 01:27:21,211 That's all. 1624 01:27:21,294 --> 01:27:25,299 - Do you wear glasses when you go to bed? - No, I don't. 1625 01:27:27,010 --> 01:27:28,928 No one wears eyeglasses to bed. 1626 01:27:29,011 --> 01:27:32,015 It's logical to assume that she wasn't wearing them when she was in bed... 1627 01:27:32,099 --> 01:27:33,851 tossing and turning, trying to fall asleep. 1628 01:27:33,935 --> 01:27:36,270 - How do you know? - I don't know! I'm guessing. 1629 01:27:36,355 --> 01:27:38,815 I'm also guessing that she probably didn't put her glasses on... 1630 01:27:38,898 --> 01:27:41,025 when she turned to look casually out of the window. 1631 01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:43,863 And she herself testified the killing took place just as she looked out. 1632 01:27:43,946 --> 01:27:46,991 The lights went off a split second later. She couldn't have had time to put them on then. 1633 01:27:47,075 --> 01:27:48,701 - Wait a second. - Here's another guess. 1634 01:27:48,786 --> 01:27:52,873 Maybe she honestly thought she saw the boy kill his father. I say she only saw a blur. 1635 01:27:52,958 --> 01:27:56,544 How do you know what she saw? How does he know all that? 1636 01:27:56,628 --> 01:27:59,381 How do you know what kind of glasses she wore? Maybe they were sunglasses. 1637 01:27:59,464 --> 01:28:02,092 Maybe she was farsighted. What do you know about it? 1638 01:28:02,176 --> 01:28:05,430 I only know the woman's eyesight is in question now. 1639 01:28:05,513 --> 01:28:11,644 She had to be able to identify a person 60 feet away, at night, without glasses. 1640 01:28:11,730 --> 01:28:14,106 You can't send someone off to die on evidence like that. 1641 01:28:14,190 --> 01:28:16,192 Oh, don't give me that. 1642 01:28:16,276 --> 01:28:18,444 Don't you think the woman might have made a mistake? 1643 01:28:18,529 --> 01:28:20,948 - No. - It's not possible? 1644 01:28:21,032 --> 01:28:22,658 No, it's not possible. 1645 01:28:25,620 --> 01:28:27,538 Is it possible? 1646 01:28:28,665 --> 01:28:30,334 Not guilty. 1647 01:28:34,505 --> 01:28:37,175 Do you think he's guilty? 1648 01:28:37,259 --> 01:28:39,260 I think he's guilty. 1649 01:28:42,015 --> 01:28:43,682 Do you? 1650 01:28:46,561 --> 01:28:49,606 No. I'm convinced. 1651 01:28:49,691 --> 01:28:51,275 Not guilty. 1652 01:28:51,359 --> 01:28:53,152 What's the matter with you? 1653 01:28:53,236 --> 01:28:55,154 I have a reasonable doubt now. 1654 01:28:55,238 --> 01:28:56,782 Eleven to one. 1655 01:28:56,865 --> 01:28:59,785 Well, what about all the other evidence? What about all that stuff? 1656 01:28:59,868 --> 01:29:01,954 The knife, the whole business! 1657 01:29:02,039 --> 01:29:04,958 Well, you said we could throw out all the other evidence. 1658 01:29:10,715 --> 01:29:12,883 Well, what do we do now? 1659 01:29:15,888 --> 01:29:17,555 You're alone. 1660 01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:21,477 I don't care whether I'm alone or not! It's my right. 1661 01:29:24,648 --> 01:29:26,817 It's your right. 1662 01:29:35,953 --> 01:29:38,372 Well, what do you want? I say he's guilty. 1663 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,336 - We want to hear your arguments. - I gave you my arguments. 1664 01:29:44,338 --> 01:29:46,464 We're not convinced. 1665 01:29:46,550 --> 01:29:49,344 We want to hear them again. 1666 01:29:49,428 --> 01:29:51,430 We have as much time as it takes. 1667 01:29:57,104 --> 01:30:01,566 Everything - Every single thing that took place in that courtroom... 1668 01:30:01,650 --> 01:30:03,568 but I mean everything - says he's guilty. 1669 01:30:03,652 --> 01:30:06,112 What do you think, I'm an idiot or something? 1670 01:30:07,781 --> 01:30:09,868 Why don't you take that stuff about the old man? 1671 01:30:09,952 --> 01:30:13,121 The old man who lived there and heard everything. 1672 01:30:14,790 --> 01:30:16,459 Or this business about the knife. 1673 01:30:16,543 --> 01:30:18,544 What? 'Cause he found another one exactly like it? 1674 01:30:18,628 --> 01:30:21,965 The old man saw him right there on the stairs! 1675 01:30:22,050 --> 01:30:24,886 What's the difference how many seconds it was? 1676 01:30:26,055 --> 01:30:28,055 Every single thing. 1677 01:30:29,475 --> 01:30:32,644 The knife falling through a hole in his pocket. 1678 01:30:32,728 --> 01:30:36,066 You can't prove he didn't get to the door. 1679 01:30:36,149 --> 01:30:38,568 Sure, you can take all the time, hobble around the room. 1680 01:30:38,651 --> 01:30:41,237 But you can't prove it! 1681 01:30:43,157 --> 01:30:46,785 And what about this business of the el and the movies? 1682 01:30:46,871 --> 01:30:49,914 There's a phony deal if I ever heard one. 1683 01:30:49,998 --> 01:30:54,212 I'll bet ya $5,000 I'd remember the movies I saw. 1684 01:30:54,295 --> 01:30:56,547 I'm telling ya, everything that's gone on... 1685 01:30:56,631 --> 01:31:00,468 has been twisted and turned! 1686 01:31:00,553 --> 01:31:02,638 This business with the glasses? 1687 01:31:02,722 --> 01:31:08,269 How do you know she didn't have them on? This woman testified in open court! 1688 01:31:08,353 --> 01:31:12,315 And what about hearing the kid yell, huh? 1689 01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,653 I'm telling ya, I've got all the facts here. 1690 01:31:16,822 --> 01:31:18,698 Here. Ah... 1691 01:31:21,078 --> 01:31:23,579 Well, that's it! That's the whole case. 1692 01:31:30,797 --> 01:31:32,381 Well? 1693 01:31:34,676 --> 01:31:36,678 Say something! 1694 01:31:41,809 --> 01:31:45,396 You lousy bunch of bleeding hearts. 1695 01:31:46,065 --> 01:31:47,983 You're not gonna intimidate me. 1696 01:31:48,067 --> 01:31:50,569 I'm entitled to my opinion. 1697 01:31:53,949 --> 01:31:58,244 Rotten kids. You work your life out! 1698 01:32:03,085 --> 01:32:05,044 I can't keep... 1699 01:32:09,718 --> 01:32:11,386 No. 1700 01:32:15,266 --> 01:32:17,100 Not guilty. 1701 01:32:20,481 --> 01:32:22,148 Not guilty. 1702 01:32:25,152 --> 01:32:26,778 Not... 1703 01:32:37,335 --> 01:32:39,501 Um, we're ready now. 1704 01:34:33,179 --> 01:34:34,846 Hey! 1705 01:34:39,186 --> 01:34:40,852 What's your name? 1706 01:34:40,937 --> 01:34:42,438 Davis. 1707 01:34:42,522 --> 01:34:44,440 My name's McCardle. 1708 01:34:46,778 --> 01:34:48,446 Well, so long. 1709 01:34:48,529 --> 01:34:50,031 So long. 146354

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