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Ken: You've got people
who see something.
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It can create
instantaneous ramping
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of fear, frenzy, concern,
in a community.
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You typically would see
that kind of situation
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around serial rape,
serial murders.
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I can tell you that it creates grave concerns on our part
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because what we don't want
is people to be
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subsequently injured
in an assault, or murdered.
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Where somebody claims
that they felt threatened,
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or this frenzy just kinda
takes over
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and people start
behaving in ways
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that they would
not otherwise behave.
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Boy 1: Oh, my God.
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I didn't know
this was really real.
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Boy 2: Then why did you hide
under that girl's bed
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that one time?
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Boy 1: I know you really
don't kill,
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you just show up
at people's houses.
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Reporter: Hi, Wrinkles.
This is NBC 2 in Fort Myers.
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We're just seeing your story
really blow up online.
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Anchor: Meet Southwest Florida's
Wrinkles the Clown.
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A creepy clown named Wrinkles
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offered to terrorize
naughty children for cash.
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Woman: Hi, I have a child that's misbehaving pretty bad.
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If you give me
a call back at...
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Reporter: You can't miss his red
and white polka dot suit.
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Reporter: Hi, Wrinkles,
I'm a reporter
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at the Washington Post.
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I was hoping to interview you
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for a story about your, uh... your amazingness.
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I found this guy named
Wrinkles the Clown.
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And he's a guy on Craigslist
who you can call,
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and apparently, he'll come
to your address
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and scare children.
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He makes me think
I'm going to die.
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Wrinkles: Hello, you've reached
Wrinkles the Clown.
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No, I'm not here
to take your call.
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Leave me a message
and I'll call you back.
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Reporter: Wrinkles,
I'm a reporter
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at the Naples Daily News.
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Woman 1: You're scaring
little people
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that can't defend themselves.
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Woman 2: Could have been
a child molester.
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Boy: I've never seen you
in real life,
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but I love your YouTube videos.
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I'm so excited to leave
this message for you.
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Please call me back.
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Reporter: Wrinkles is easily and often spotted around town.
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Here he is
in Downtown Fort Myers
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and it's the Collier
County fair.
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Journalist: Hey, Wrinkles.
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Was writing a story about you and I was interested in that
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thing you had with
that little girl
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that was on YouTube.
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Reporter: If you haven't seen
this video,
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good luck going
to sleep tonight.
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- I mean, seriously.
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He was lurking under the bed
of a sleeping little girl.
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He goes by Wrinkles,
but you may know him
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by his other name,
Person of Interest.
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- uh...
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Woman: I'm calling from CAA
which is a talent agency
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- in Los Angeles.
- Woman: Oh, my God. Oh, my God!
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Boy: Hey Wrinkles, are you hiding in my friend's backyard,
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because we saw a clown
that looks exactly like you.
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This is the County Sheriff's
Department.
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I just wanted to call you
to verify
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that you're not allowed
out on Halloween night.
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If you are found or seen
by any kids,
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- you'll be arrested on site.-
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Christopher: Is that Wrinkles
the Clown?
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- No!
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Let me take a picture with him.
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Come on, man.
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Dude, he's a legend.
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What the fuck?
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Wrinkles walks by
and the whole thing.
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What I saw was like a little
flyer or pamphlet on a post
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and I was walking home
from work one day,
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and it had him, and his name,
and his number, and I was like,
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"Dude, I'm gonna try
to call this, you know,
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phone number, get ahold of him,"
it goes right to his voicemail.
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I'm like... so I call him over
and over again,
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he finally picked up.
It was the coolest thing
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'cause it was, you know,
actually him saying,
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- "Hey, what's going on?"
- I love what he's doing.
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It brings a spark, an energy,
to the neighborhood.
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And...
...how many times
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do we bring it up
to people alone, you know?
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Just be afraid of this.
You can't be afraid of Jason.
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- It's fiction.
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You can't be afraid of,
you know, that Carrie,
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but you better be afraid
of Wrinkles.
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- He's real.
- Peter: Wrinkles, it's like...
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That's been awesome. He's real.
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Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached
Wrinkles the Clown.
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I'm not here to take your call. Leave me a message
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and I'll call ya back.
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Man: Wrinkles,
this is Jack's father.
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- Man: You got to see me.
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- He's been acting up.
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- Girl: Daddy.
- Man: If they don't stop
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acting up, I'm gonna give you my address
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to come and get these little
motherfuckers.
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Girl: No!
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Man: Do you wanna see
what he looks like?
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Girl: No.
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Man: Look, this is what
he look like.
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- Girl: No!
- Girl 2: Sorry. I'm sorry.
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Woman 1: My kids' names
are Angelina and Mia.
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Please just calm down, Mia.
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Woman 2: He says he needs
the TV.
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He thinks he'll come out
this motherfuckin' TV.
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Hey, um, Wrinkle, I need you to come get these badass kids
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- like I'm...
- Boy: No!
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Man on TV: Oh, it's fine.
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He's been like a madman.
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Personal vengeance and shame
they are.
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However, uh, did you have
much trouble getting here?
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Man on TV: Just hold your breath. If it is right...
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Wrinkles: You know, uh,
I'll probably never
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unmask myself.
I don't wanna be hassled.
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I get hassled enough
with the phone calls,
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things like that.
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I don't need kids recognizing me
on the street, you know.
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I'm not going to talk you
in my real voice either.
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You want Wrinkles, you're gonna
get Wrinkles,
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you know, including the voice.
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Man on TV: ...but we'll not attack again,
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unless there's...
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- Woman on TV: You're not.
- Wrinkles: I get...
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I get hundreds and hundreds
of voicemails a day.
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The whole viral thing
for me is, uh...
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It's kind of a pain in the ass.
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Everybody and their
fucking grandmother
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has my phone number.
Jesus Christ.
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Uh, I get moms and dads that call and ask whose number
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this is 'cause they see the number in the kids' phone,
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and they wanna know who it is,
you know.
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Uh, you get kids that call
and are like,
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"Hey, we love you, Wrinkles"
and all that good stuff.
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Then you got your legit parents
out there that really are
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looking for some, uh,
behavioral services.
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Wrinkles: My favorite kind
of scares are the ones
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that pay the most.
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You know, I'll show up outside
in the backyard, you know,
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maybe give a knock on the window
and, you know, make sure
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they see me and give them
a wave, but, you know,
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I'm not wielding, uh,
knives and machetes,
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and things like that.
I give the parents my sticker,
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I say, "Oh, you put the sticker up here in the fridge."
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Maybe tell them, "Hey,
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you misbehave again,
Wrinkles is gonna come back.
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There's his phone number
right now,
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I'll call him right now."
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Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached
Wrinkles the Clown.
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Leave me a message
and I'll call ya back.
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Girl: No, Daddy.
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- Man: Hello, Wrinkles?
- Girl: No. No!
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Man: I'm... Let me
call you back.
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I'mma call you back
because I think she's trying
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to act right now.
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But if she doesn't act right, I'll give you...
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Antonio: Hey, Wrinkles,
just calling to let you know
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Kaila being bad in the store.
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She's running around
and everything. Yeah.
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Antonio: Okay. I want you
to come get her for a minute
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or do something
'cause she's being bad.
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There you go. Hang on.
You got it?
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And I want you to eat her.
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- Kaila?
- Hmm?
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Antonio: Can you tell me, um,
tell me what Wrinkle...
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how Wrinkle the Clown
sound to you?
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He was like,
"Oh, Kaila,
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I'm gonna eat you
if you'll be bad."
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Antonio: Oh, I bring...
you want me to bring you
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to her when I see you?
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All right.
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Yeah. 'Cause she's
being bad, Wrinkles.
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Yeah.
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There you go.
Good job.
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I'm scared of Wrinkles
the Clown. He come to my house
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and scare me at night
if I be asleep.
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Antonio: Oh, yeah?
But what if you're good?
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- What happens?
- He don't come and visit me
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if I be bad... if I be good.
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Antonio: If you're good,
he doesn't come to visit?
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Oh, okay.
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I don't see that
that's child abuse.
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They're gonna try
and push the limit
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the older that they get
and so that's basically
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just a boundary saying, um,
you can go this far,
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just don't cross that line.
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They said they're gonna eat me
and they said, "no."
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Antonio: Oh, okay.
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I think he did it to actually become some type
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of contributor to society,
giving parents another way
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to discipline the kid and bring them in line early.
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Dean: "Skype can't connect
to your webcam."
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I don't have a webcam.
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Hey, Dad, I'm doing
the interview right now.
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I'm doing the interview
right now.
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Yeah, I could see where people
would hire Wrinkles,
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especially if their children
are being naughty.
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I'm not naughty,
you're scaring me.
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I would definitely hire Wrinkles
to scare somebody
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because I'm a terrible person,
man.
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I know where the gun is, okay?
And I will...
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If he shows up to my room
at 3:00 a.m...
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Eadie, you're gonna get me
arrested here.
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He went in the bathroom,
he got toilet paper.
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He was just throwing it
all around the house
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so I called the number.
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And Wrink... The voicemail
picked up again,
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and when we heard the laugh,
he lost his mind.
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I promise, he lost his mind.
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He just started crying and he...
I promise he didn't move
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for about, I think,
like, two hours.
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He didn't move for,
like, two hours.
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Antonio: Okay.
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Antonio: Hey, Wrinkles
the Clown.
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Kaila: Stop.
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- Antonio: Kaila's being bad.
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I need you to come get her
'cause she's being bad.
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- Kaila: Stop calling him.
- Antonio: Don't be bad then.
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Woman: Hi, Wrinkles, there's
this very bad child...
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- ...Jordan,
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and I was just wondering
if you could give me
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a call back.
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You hear this?
This is Wrinkles.
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- So misguided.
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My name is George Holden.
I'm a professor
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and Chair of Psychology
at Southern Methodist University
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and I'm a developmental
psychologist.
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I study parent-child
relationships, family violence,
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parents' use of discipline.
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This idea of calling Wrinkles
the Clown is really misguided.
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If it's done frequently enough,
it's...
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If it's a pattern of behavior,
in this case,
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we're talking
about terrorizing a child,
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that is...
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currently accepted
as one manifestation
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of psychological maltreatment,
which is a form of child abuse.
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I found out about Wrinkles the Clown through a news story.
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To me, it's sad that he couldn't come up with
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a more positive approach.
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He doesn't actually have
to travel into a home
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but that threat can still be,
at least for kids,
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as powerful as the real thing.
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Antonio: Oh, so you're
hyper now, Mrs. Want to, um...
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- ...play with the ducks.
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Antonio: Oh, they running
over here.
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- Here I come with some food!
- Antonio: Throw it in there.
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Antonio: I definitely
would use Wrinkles
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one hundred percent of the time
over spankings.
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Spankings, uh...
That kind of leaves a mark...
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...you know,
and so the phone, um,
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it's a voice. And it kinda
leaves the, um,
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scary option of, "if I'm bad,
then I gotta hear this voice,"
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and she doesn't wanna hear
the voice.
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Wrinkles: When I was a kid,
you got the fucking belt.
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You know,
my dad was old school.
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He would go hard on you,
you know?
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He cared about us
and he didn't want us
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to get in trouble, so...
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Now, it's like, you know,
you can't hit your kids,
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you can't do this,
you'll go to jail.
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So, you know, they're using
psychological warfare,
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things like that, you know?
They're using what's available.
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And is that as harmful
as spanking your kid
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with a belt, you know?
I don't know.
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It's up to you,
you're the parent.
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Wrinkles: I've been asked before
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if I feel guilty
about the parents
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that wanna use me
for behavioral services.
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You know, that's a contract
between me and mom and dad.
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That's nobody else's business,
so you got a problem with it,
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you can take it up
with mom and dad,
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'cause I'm just doing my job.
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Girl: Why are you stalking
little kids?
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Jarrett: Oh, here.
I have an idea.
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Is this good?
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Um, what I wanna do
when I'm older is
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I wanna be a professional
animal trainer.
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So, this is my dog Schnitzel.
He is a schnauzer mix.
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And then this is
my mom's dog, Gracey.
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Her owners died and no one
really knows how,
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not even, like, police
or anything.
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Jarrett: Okay. So, I just wanted
to try to call clowns
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just to see, like,
what would happen
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and I didn't get in trouble
for it
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but my parents were like,
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"Why are you calling a clown?" and I was, like,
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"Well,
Wrinkles sounds more real
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than what I've seen
on YouTube."
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I was like, "Don't be looking up
numbers online,
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don't be calling random people.
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Don't... You don't even know
if this is...
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Access to this stuff is scary
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'cause you don't know
what they're getting into.
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You try to keep an eye on it
and try to...
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But you can't govern all of it
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and so you just kinda
have to hope that you've...
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you know, that they have
a good sense
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of what's good and not.
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And yet you got children
who otherwise wouldn't even care
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about clowns except
now scary clowns are cool
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and so he goes clown crazy
sometimes.
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Jarrett: Hey, Wrinkles,
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I love clowns,
I love everything.
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Clowns inspire me.
Um, call me back,
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leave me a message,
text me, anything.
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I'm making a YouTube video.
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Bye.
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Jarrett: If I hired Wrinkles,
once my kid fell asleep,
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I would make him
hide under here,
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and I would like
make him bang stuff,
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like under here, and, like,
make him, like,
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get fr...
like, freaked out a little bit.
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And then.. And then
once they fall asleep again,
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like, I would have him,
like, come out like this,
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and I'd have him go...
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Like that maybe.
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And, like... Just, like,
try to mess with him even more.
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And... And then once
they fell asleep again,
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I would have him go like this.
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Jarrett: I think some people
sometimes need to be scared,
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every once in a while.
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Just, like, some people,
if they're, like,
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really sad or something,
you can just try to scare 'em,
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and it'll just make 'em like,
I guess, a little happier.
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Like, if I'm home alone
watching creepy videos
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and I get scared,
I kinda like it.
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Like, it'll start feeling
real to me
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like there's something else
creepy happening, like,
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- in the room with me.
-Boy: And Slenderman!
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Girl: What are you doing?
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Boy: Slenderman!
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- Girl: Okay. Stop.
- Boy: Slenderman! Slenderman!
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Boy: I just felt something
behind me.
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Girl: Okay. Okay.
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Boy: I know that Slenderman
is real. I know that he is.
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Trevor: Folklore is an outlet
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for connecting
with other people.
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The superstitions they believe,
the legends that they tell.
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Folklorists,
and myself included,
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find this to be richly evocative
of what culture is.
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Boy: Dude.
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Boy: We have to just
put rice in it.
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We have to cut it
and then put rice.
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and put it with the knife.
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Boy: Shit. Okay. Tag you're it,
tag you're it, tag you're it.
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Children: Diablo, you're it.
Diablo, you're it.
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- Boy: Go! Go, go, go, go!
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Trevor: One of the things
that happens with legends
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is we try to verify
that they're real or not.
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Charlie, Charlie, can we play?
Charlie, Charlie can we...
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Online, we see that kids
are propelling the transmission
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of folklore in a very,
very rapid succession,
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in ways that were
not previously done before.
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Girl: Devil. Devil.
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Devil.
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Devil.
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- Devil.
- Woman: Play it again.
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Boy:
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Folklore provides
an opportunity for us
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to perform and test out ideas
to experiment with something
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- that is scary...
- Girl: I'm so scared.
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Woman: What if we go missing
and they play this on the news
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- the next day?
- ...and play with that
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to test the boundaries
of safety.
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Girls: Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary.
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- Boy: Bloody Mary.
- Girls: Bloody Mary.
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- Woman: Bloody Mary.
- All: Bloody Mary.
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Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached
Wrinkles the Clown,
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but I'm not here
to take your call.
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Leave me a message
and I'll call ya back.
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00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:45,304
I'm getting the fuck
out of here.
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- Um...
- No!
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Ooh, try it again, try it again.
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Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached
Wrinkles the Clown,
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but I'm not here
to take your call.
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Did you hear that?
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That was creepy.
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Now that's Wrinkles the Clown.
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Boy: Should we show them
the phone number?
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Girl: Wait.
Everyone, be quiet.
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- Girl: 4-0-7...
- Boy: ...7-3-4...
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Girl: ...0-2-5-4.
Call that number.
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Boy: Now.
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Girl: I'm going
to call Wrinkles.
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- Girl: He's gonna eat us.
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Trevor: What makes Wrinkles
the Clown significant
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as an example
of digital folklore
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is how people have responded
to his phone number,
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uh, and have made kind
of a ritual out of calling him.
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And videos documenting
the proof of actually
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contacting Wrinkles
is part of the performance.
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It's a part of the ritual.
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Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached
Wrinkles the Clown,
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but I'm not here
to take your call.
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00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:44,885
Leave me a message
and I'll call ya back.
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00:22:47,061 --> 00:22:49,977
- Boys: What the heck?
- Dude, that's scary.
404
00:22:50,151 --> 00:22:52,675
Boy: Yeah. I told you.
I told you.
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00:23:03,425 --> 00:23:07,255
- Boy: Bye, Mr. Wrinkle.
- It went straight to voicemail.
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00:23:08,169 --> 00:23:10,650
- Oh. Well, he's there at least.
- Boy: Wait. Wait, wait.
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Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached
Wrinkles the Clown,
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00:23:13,261 --> 00:23:14,654
- but I'm not...
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Boy: He...
He put it to voice...
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00:23:16,351 --> 00:23:18,440
He just turned off
the phone completely.
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00:23:19,006 --> 00:23:22,662
Oh, yeah. Let me go in here
and turn off the TV.
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00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:26,840
This is where I do
all my videos.
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I should have just gone in here.
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00:23:28,668 --> 00:23:31,279
For fun, I like to watch videos
and make videos
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on my YouTube channel.
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00:23:33,412 --> 00:23:35,718
What I like about YouTube
is you can be creative
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00:23:35,892 --> 00:23:38,242
and you can do what you want
and not have to
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do what anybody else wants.
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Sean: Me and my sister were watching YouTube videos,
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00:23:47,904 --> 00:23:49,819
and we came across
Wrinkles the Clown.
421
00:23:49,993 --> 00:23:52,387
And so we started
doing research on him
422
00:23:52,692 --> 00:23:55,434
and then we just
called him for a video.
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We're like, "What if he answers?
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And what if he's gonna be
real creepy?
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00:24:00,395 --> 00:24:02,702
What if he's gonna
start threatening us?
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00:24:02,876 --> 00:24:06,096
What if he just can't take
getting called like that?"
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00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:09,535
And we're sitting there, like,
"We shouldn't have done this."
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00:24:16,019 --> 00:24:18,239
It feels like a horror movie
when you see someone...
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00:24:18,413 --> 00:24:19,762
something's about to happen.
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00:24:25,072 --> 00:24:28,075
Sean: After I saw the video,
I felt paranoid.
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00:24:28,379 --> 00:24:31,208
And I had a nightmare, and like,
there was clowns in my house,
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00:24:31,382 --> 00:24:33,515
and, like, you couldn't see
them, but you could see
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00:24:33,689 --> 00:24:37,171
a shadow of them walk by
and it was, like, very creepy.
434
00:24:37,824 --> 00:24:40,087
And it made me, like,
very scared.
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00:24:40,304 --> 00:24:42,481
I took out my box spring.
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00:24:42,742 --> 00:24:46,180
I slept just on the floor
on my mattress and everything.
437
00:24:46,441 --> 00:24:48,399
I didn't want anything
underneath my bed
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00:24:48,574 --> 00:24:50,619
because I just don't wanna
wake up in the middle
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00:24:50,837 --> 00:24:54,362
of the night and there be
a clown sitting there,
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00:24:54,797 --> 00:24:57,408
and I don't wanna...
...start screaming.
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00:24:58,235 --> 00:25:01,021
Sean: We ordered boxes
and I put it in my closet
442
00:25:01,674 --> 00:25:04,372
just so nothing could get
in my closet,
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00:25:04,807 --> 00:25:07,767
nothing could be under my bed.
I just felt more safe.
444
00:25:08,332 --> 00:25:10,030
And locked my windows.
445
00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:16,166
It kinda sucks to not be able
to feel safe at your own house.
446
00:25:30,224 --> 00:25:33,357
- Girl: Hello, Wrinkles.
447
00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:37,100
I need you to come to my house and kidnap a little girl.
448
00:26:01,081 --> 00:26:02,952
Girl: What did we do
to deserve this?
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00:26:21,928 --> 00:26:23,843
Funky: Scaring kids,
scaring people...
450
00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:25,496
I don't know what kind
of parents would do that.
451
00:26:25,671 --> 00:26:26,889
No parent I know.
452
00:26:27,194 --> 00:26:30,458
Talcum powder,
put it in a sock to set...
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00:26:31,851 --> 00:26:34,201
'cause you wanna be matte,
you don't wanna be shiny.
454
00:26:35,028 --> 00:26:37,421
Real clowning is putting on
greasepaint makeup...
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00:26:38,814 --> 00:26:40,381
putting the money
into the costumes,
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00:26:40,555 --> 00:26:42,383
into your craft, having the right kind of heart,
457
00:26:42,644 --> 00:26:45,081
and your goal is
to make people smile.
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00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:46,474
Make people laugh.
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00:26:46,779 --> 00:26:48,432
That's a lot harder
than scaring people.
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00:26:50,652 --> 00:26:54,525
Narrator: Now, a circus clown likes to have a full half hour
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00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:55,962
for putting it on his face.
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00:26:56,658 --> 00:26:58,051
Benjamin: The sort
of default clown
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00:26:58,268 --> 00:26:59,400
that most Americans
are familiar with
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is the happy clown.
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00:27:01,315 --> 00:27:02,664
And this is because of, like, Bozo the Clown.
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00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:05,319
The Happy Birthday Clown.
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00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:08,061
We love the trickster figure. We love the figure
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00:27:08,235 --> 00:27:09,889
that makes us think
and makes us laugh
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00:27:10,063 --> 00:27:11,412
and maybe embarrasses us.
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00:27:11,934 --> 00:27:13,849
Narrator: These clowns
are trying out a new act.
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Benjamin: Historically,
clowns operated in silence.
472
00:27:17,070 --> 00:27:19,115
And part of that goes back
to their nature
473
00:27:19,289 --> 00:27:20,551
and their role in the circus.
474
00:27:21,509 --> 00:27:23,337
They're exaggerated.
They're over the top.
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00:27:23,511 --> 00:27:24,555
They're hyper human.
476
00:27:25,165 --> 00:27:26,427
They can do these weird,
bizarre
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00:27:26,601 --> 00:27:28,472
seemingly supernatural things.
478
00:27:28,995 --> 00:27:30,692
We know that there's
a human underneath
479
00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:32,955
the greasepaint and the wig
and whatever else,
480
00:27:33,564 --> 00:27:36,480
and yet, there's something
unnatural about them,
481
00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:38,004
something inhuman.
482
00:27:39,614 --> 00:27:41,094
On one hand, they're
presenting themselves
483
00:27:41,268 --> 00:27:43,923
to the public as happy
and goofy.
484
00:27:44,706 --> 00:27:47,535
On the other hand, of course, we know that that's an act.
485
00:27:48,144 --> 00:27:49,711
You don't know their identity,
486
00:27:49,885 --> 00:27:51,278
you don't know what
their intentions are,
487
00:27:51,452 --> 00:27:52,366
you don't know what
they're gonna do
488
00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:53,846
and that creeps people out.
489
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:55,456
When you add in the access
to children,
490
00:27:55,630 --> 00:27:57,197
- that just amps it up.
491
00:27:57,414 --> 00:28:00,591
Did you like that?
Oh, heart is just going wild.
492
00:28:00,809 --> 00:28:02,376
I do have a fear of clowns.
493
00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:05,074
I do have coulrophobia
which is the fear of clowns.
494
00:28:05,553 --> 00:28:09,209
Their face is painted
and it's scary, like,
495
00:28:09,383 --> 00:28:10,601
what are you gonna do?
496
00:28:11,124 --> 00:28:13,169
You remember when I dressed up
as a clown to scare you?
497
00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:15,824
- No.
- Well, I do. And you screamed
498
00:28:15,998 --> 00:28:17,913
and fell backwards,
and laid there.
499
00:28:20,089 --> 00:28:22,222
Benjamin: It's a mistake to ask
"When did clowns go bad?"
500
00:28:22,396 --> 00:28:24,398
because the evil side
has always been there.
501
00:28:24,964 --> 00:28:27,401
One of the most famous
evil clowns historically
502
00:28:27,575 --> 00:28:29,882
is Mr. Punch, the star
of The Punch and Judy shows,
503
00:28:30,056 --> 00:28:32,841
which have been popular
in England for centuries.
504
00:28:33,015 --> 00:28:35,844
These two puppets are just
nasty, and abusive,
505
00:28:36,018 --> 00:28:39,152
and vile, and homicidal.
506
00:28:39,413 --> 00:28:42,503
And it's a kid show.
And kids love it!
507
00:28:43,069 --> 00:28:44,592
So when you see
these evil clowns
508
00:28:44,766 --> 00:28:46,725
come out in culture,
in pop culture, in movies,
509
00:28:46,899 --> 00:28:49,249
and films, and things like that,
it's really hearkening back
510
00:28:49,423 --> 00:28:52,382
to a more genuine part
of the clown.
511
00:28:53,427 --> 00:28:54,428
You can call me...
512
00:28:55,516 --> 00:28:57,605
- Joker.
513
00:28:59,825 --> 00:29:01,609
Woman: No!
514
00:29:15,797 --> 00:29:17,233
- Man 2: Man down!
515
00:29:22,325 --> 00:29:24,980
- And when you're down here
516
00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:29,419
with me, you'll float too.
517
00:29:32,248 --> 00:29:34,642
- You'll float, too!
518
00:29:38,602 --> 00:29:41,083
Funky: Today, I just came
from face painting at a party,
519
00:29:41,301 --> 00:29:43,651
and like six of the boys
wanted to be Pennywise.
520
00:29:45,522 --> 00:29:47,263
There's a whole generation
growing up
521
00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:50,614
with no positive image
of a clown whatsoever.
522
00:29:52,529 --> 00:29:54,183
I go to a party,
I make people laugh
523
00:29:54,357 --> 00:29:55,881
and I make cool stuff like this.
524
00:29:56,055 --> 00:29:57,273
And get bunch of kids
walking around with these.
525
00:29:58,927 --> 00:30:02,061
3-D!
526
00:30:02,931 --> 00:30:04,280
Cool.
527
00:30:04,715 --> 00:30:08,415
Slap on a mask, you have
this empowerment to make people
528
00:30:08,632 --> 00:30:11,461
react to you, you know?
And that's a powerful thing.
529
00:30:12,506 --> 00:30:15,552
You know. But that's
what terrorism is.
530
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,773
Funky: Real clowns
are not scary.
531
00:30:22,211 --> 00:30:23,343
Man: John Gacy,
532
00:30:23,952 --> 00:30:25,214
a man who liked to put on
a clown suit
533
00:30:25,388 --> 00:30:26,825
and entertain children.
534
00:30:26,999 --> 00:30:28,870
Now, he is charged
with one murder...
535
00:30:29,044 --> 00:30:31,220
and the police have found,
at last count,
536
00:30:31,481 --> 00:30:34,833
27 bodies buried
under his house and garage
537
00:30:35,050 --> 00:30:36,835
and two more in a nearby river.
538
00:30:43,406 --> 00:30:46,496
Benjamin: In the 1980s,
soon after John Wayne Gacy,
539
00:30:46,714 --> 00:30:49,760
rumors and stories circulated that there were clowns,
540
00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:51,719
often groups of them
in white vans,
541
00:30:52,459 --> 00:30:54,809
that were circling around
trying to abduct kids.
542
00:30:56,289 --> 00:30:57,507
And it spread.
543
00:31:00,293 --> 00:31:02,121
In each case you had
these rumors
544
00:31:02,295 --> 00:31:04,210
in the school districts,
in the communities
545
00:31:04,384 --> 00:31:06,560
often shared in the news media
546
00:31:06,734 --> 00:31:09,824
and by parents who would
call, panicked.
547
00:31:11,652 --> 00:31:14,307
A van of clowns trying
to abduct kids?
548
00:31:14,568 --> 00:31:15,961
Of course you're gonna
freak out.
549
00:31:16,135 --> 00:31:17,223
Who wouldn't freak out?
550
00:31:44,337 --> 00:31:46,078
Wrinkles: I started off
Wrinkles The Clown
551
00:31:46,252 --> 00:31:49,081
just as, you know, something
to keep me occupied
552
00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:50,734
as, you know, retired
and whatnot.
553
00:31:54,434 --> 00:31:56,697
You know, I did the face makeup and everything,
554
00:31:56,871 --> 00:31:58,568
but after a while,
especially living down here,
555
00:31:58,742 --> 00:32:00,179
the face makeup,
it just melts off.
556
00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:11,146
You know, no one was hiring me
when I was just a regular clown.
557
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,495
I just thought, yeah, you know,
558
00:32:12,669 --> 00:32:14,062
maybe I'll give it
a little edge.
559
00:32:15,281 --> 00:32:17,109
Something different. All these clowns are the same,
560
00:32:17,283 --> 00:32:18,414
it's kind of boring.
561
00:32:29,643 --> 00:32:31,688
Saw this one mask on eBay and...
562
00:32:32,124 --> 00:32:33,734
I don't know, I just liked
the way it looked.
563
00:32:33,995 --> 00:32:35,736
Looked, uh...
It was somewhere between, like,
564
00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:38,086
Michael Myers
and my grandfather.
565
00:32:38,260 --> 00:32:39,740
And I was like, "Hey,
that's pretty funny.
566
00:32:39,914 --> 00:32:42,264
It's kind of creepy, it's kinda
got everything I need."
567
00:32:42,438 --> 00:32:44,005
So I gave it a try.
568
00:32:47,835 --> 00:32:49,924
I'm outside. I had
to come tell my mama
569
00:32:50,098 --> 00:32:51,534
that it powered off.
570
00:32:52,187 --> 00:32:53,406
I'm a comedian
571
00:32:53,754 --> 00:32:57,279
and I can make people laugh
very easily.
572
00:32:57,497 --> 00:32:59,281
I can do a funny face.
573
00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:08,682
Rena: When I was
eight years old,
574
00:33:08,943 --> 00:33:10,945
I first heard about Wrinkles
575
00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:14,209
and I was, like,
very freaked out.
576
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,212
I was kind of scared
577
00:33:17,386 --> 00:33:19,606
that he would come
to my house or something.
578
00:33:19,954 --> 00:33:20,824
Wrinkles.
579
00:33:21,608 --> 00:33:23,001
What you want, bruh?
580
00:33:23,392 --> 00:33:24,741
Do you wanna fight?
581
00:33:25,438 --> 00:33:27,005
Come over to Georgia, okay?
582
00:33:28,223 --> 00:33:29,703
- Rena: Mom?
- Cheryl: Yeah?
583
00:33:30,182 --> 00:33:31,574
Rena: And I'm
not telling you my address
584
00:33:31,748 --> 00:33:33,837
so you might as well
find my address.
585
00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:35,361
I have a mama...
586
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:37,711
that's crippled...
587
00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:40,583
but I can still fight back.
588
00:33:41,323 --> 00:33:44,239
I have a dog that's named Halo. Where is she?
589
00:33:44,413 --> 00:33:45,893
Cheryl: Rena, hang the phone up.
590
00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:52,204
Don't you make me drop you.
591
00:33:54,858 --> 00:33:57,122
Fiona, can I borrow some
of your cat food? Okay.
592
00:34:07,741 --> 00:34:08,916
Rena: Good girl.
593
00:34:09,786 --> 00:34:11,440
Rena:
What you gonna do?
594
00:34:12,093 --> 00:34:14,313
'Cause who cares about you?
595
00:34:14,487 --> 00:34:16,445
You need to be in jail
right now.
596
00:34:16,619 --> 00:34:17,838
- Rena: Say something.
597
00:34:18,752 --> 00:34:20,275
Cheryl: Quit messing
with these children.
598
00:34:22,103 --> 00:34:24,105
Rena: Stop. I'm about
to come up there
599
00:34:24,323 --> 00:34:26,151
- and whoop your ass right now.
600
00:34:27,587 --> 00:34:28,892
I'm sorry.
601
00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:31,330
Rena: Because who cares
about you?
602
00:34:31,808 --> 00:34:35,682
I care about God and you care about the devil or something?
603
00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:37,988
Yes, he does.
604
00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:40,426
- I said the "A" word.
- Rena: You can say I am,
605
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,167
- but I'm not...
- Cheryl: Well, I had no idea
606
00:34:42,341 --> 00:34:45,387
that she was talking
to actual Wrinkles, you know.
607
00:34:45,561 --> 00:34:47,781
Rena: I wasn't talking to him.
I left a voicemail.
608
00:34:47,955 --> 00:34:49,043
Yeah.
609
00:34:49,696 --> 00:34:52,481
I'm scared about another
cuss word or something.
610
00:34:53,569 --> 00:34:55,049
Cheryl: Well,
they've already heard it.
611
00:34:55,615 --> 00:34:58,139
That's just crazy. It's funny.
612
00:34:58,357 --> 00:34:59,749
- But, uh...
613
00:34:59,923 --> 00:35:02,491
Yeah, at that time,
I remember last year.
614
00:35:02,926 --> 00:35:05,973
Clowns are meant to be,
you know, funny,
615
00:35:06,234 --> 00:35:10,717
uh, running around the rodeos,
and acting a fool,
616
00:35:10,934 --> 00:35:13,807
and at birthday parties.
Honk, honk, honk, honk.
617
00:35:14,024 --> 00:35:17,115
- Rena: Honk.
- Not out trying to hurt people.
618
00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:21,945
Scaring children.
They could grow up...
619
00:35:23,208 --> 00:35:25,427
being traumatized
by something like that.
620
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,083
Not only liking clowns, but just
621
00:35:29,257 --> 00:35:33,348
- not trusting people and stuff.
- I need to grab me something.
622
00:35:42,966 --> 00:35:45,621
Rena: I just had a nightmare
last night.
623
00:35:45,795 --> 00:35:46,622
Hello.
624
00:35:47,449 --> 00:35:49,451
My dad got...
625
00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:55,240
killed by Wrinkles and he, like,
locked him up
626
00:35:55,414 --> 00:35:57,720
in a basement or something.
627
00:35:59,287 --> 00:36:02,725
If I would have found him,
I'm for real...
628
00:36:03,770 --> 00:36:07,121
I'll see how he likes it
in the basement.
629
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,081
Hi, baby.
630
00:36:16,391 --> 00:36:18,350
I've been trying to get her
to lay on her back.
631
00:36:25,574 --> 00:36:26,445
There she goes.
632
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:29,578
She was laying on her back.
633
00:36:31,145 --> 00:36:35,149
I also think Wrinkles wants
to have fun...
634
00:36:37,064 --> 00:36:38,196
but it's not working...
635
00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:42,809
because he's killing kids.
636
00:36:48,075 --> 00:36:50,686
Rena: He took a little kid home
and killed him...
637
00:36:53,994 --> 00:36:58,781
and probably made artwork with blood all over the wall.
638
00:37:06,746 --> 00:37:09,444
Girl: No.
639
00:37:28,246 --> 00:37:31,466
Girl: I'm here.
640
00:37:44,131 --> 00:37:46,568
Wrinkles: Well, Florida's just
basically a fucking giant swamp
641
00:37:46,742 --> 00:37:48,788
with houses, you know,
like, just strung about,
642
00:37:49,092 --> 00:37:51,094
a lot of shopping,
a lot of, uh...
643
00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:53,314
a lot of stores
that nobody needs.
644
00:37:54,010 --> 00:37:55,577
Yeah, it's beautiful,
don't get me wrong,
645
00:37:55,751 --> 00:37:57,797
but it's just, you know,
I'm not doing the golf
646
00:37:57,971 --> 00:37:59,755
and, you know, going
to the country club
647
00:37:59,929 --> 00:38:01,888
and things like that, you know. I just... that's just...
648
00:38:02,062 --> 00:38:04,064
I never really fit into
that kind of lifestyle.
649
00:38:25,346 --> 00:38:26,913
Wrinkles: Yeah. I don't really
do the strip club
650
00:38:27,174 --> 00:38:29,785
as much as I'd like to. Costs a lot of money, you know.
651
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:36,488
It gets harder and harder
as you get older.
652
00:38:36,749 --> 00:38:39,055
Then you start getting lonely, you know, sometimes I dream
653
00:38:39,229 --> 00:38:42,015
about maybe having a girl to settle down with, you know?
654
00:38:42,232 --> 00:38:44,713
What am I gonna do? Have them come back to the van?
655
00:38:50,589 --> 00:38:52,199
I just wanna go out there
and have some fun,
656
00:38:52,373 --> 00:38:54,419
and, you know,
I'll do something different.
657
00:38:57,117 --> 00:38:59,293
Sometimes I go home
and I feel good about it.
658
00:38:59,511 --> 00:39:01,991
It's kind of rewarding
in a way, you know,
659
00:39:02,165 --> 00:39:04,037
and it kinda makes it worth
all the bullshit.
660
00:39:05,821 --> 00:39:08,258
But sometimes I can just
close my eyes in the mask
661
00:39:08,433 --> 00:39:09,695
and just get in my own head.
662
00:39:29,715 --> 00:39:31,717
Woman: She's got her excited
'cause she doesn't know.
663
00:39:31,934 --> 00:39:34,023
- Girl: Yeah.
- Woman: You won. That's good.
664
00:39:34,197 --> 00:39:35,677
- Girl: I know.
- Woman 1: That's...
665
00:39:35,938 --> 00:39:37,244
- Woman 2: Guys?
- Woman 1: No. You won
666
00:39:37,418 --> 00:39:38,724
- the money.
- Woman 2: What's outside?
667
00:39:38,898 --> 00:39:39,986
- Woman 1: What?
- Man: Huh?
668
00:39:40,203 --> 00:39:41,248
Woman 2: There's
something outside.
669
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,771
Man: Huh?
670
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:44,643
Woman 2: I swear there's
something outside.
671
00:39:44,817 --> 00:39:46,949
- Man: What the fuck?
- Woman 1: What?
672
00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:48,777
Man: Oh, my God.
Oh, God, God.
673
00:39:52,085 --> 00:39:54,783
- Woman 2: Stop! Do something.
- Man: Oh, my God!
674
00:39:55,218 --> 00:39:58,570
- Woman 2: Stop, stop, stop!
675
00:39:58,918 --> 00:40:00,963
- Man: Wait.
676
00:40:15,935 --> 00:40:19,155
I'd probably have
a heart attack over that.
677
00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:30,776
Yeah. That would scare me
to death.
678
00:40:31,037 --> 00:40:34,301
He was sitting on the table,
one evening, right after supper,
679
00:40:34,475 --> 00:40:36,085
and started calling him.
You know, I was afraid
680
00:40:36,259 --> 00:40:37,652
he was gonna
give him information
681
00:40:37,826 --> 00:40:40,176
and him come here, and,
you know,
682
00:40:40,350 --> 00:40:43,963
you hear all those bad stories
and... It was scary at first.
683
00:40:44,137 --> 00:40:46,444
Remember when I had to take out
my box spring...
684
00:40:46,705 --> 00:40:48,010
- Mm-hmm.
- ...because I got
685
00:40:48,576 --> 00:40:50,317
real creeped out when I saw
the video of him coming out.
686
00:40:50,491 --> 00:40:52,014
- Mm-hmm
- So we put it under your bed.
687
00:40:53,929 --> 00:40:55,278
If he's under your bed,
you can protect yourself.
688
00:40:55,453 --> 00:40:56,323
Yeah.
689
00:40:58,717 --> 00:41:01,067
The reason I'm not scared
of Wrinkles anymore
690
00:41:01,284 --> 00:41:04,374
is just I learned how to, like,
be okay with it.
691
00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:07,160
It's like I basically
got scared so much,
692
00:41:07,334 --> 00:41:08,988
I'm not scared anymore.
693
00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:15,168
So basically today I'm gonna be showing you the clown mask
694
00:41:15,342 --> 00:41:16,996
and the little knife
that I bought with it.
695
00:41:17,475 --> 00:41:20,216
This is the mask. It's gonna be
696
00:41:20,521 --> 00:41:23,045
my Halloween costume
for next year.
697
00:41:25,831 --> 00:41:27,833
Daddy, how do you do this?
698
00:41:30,749 --> 00:41:32,098
- Oh, I know how to do it.
- Matt: Oh, yeah?
699
00:41:32,272 --> 00:41:33,491
Jarrett: I wanna do it.
700
00:41:38,104 --> 00:41:40,628
- It's so tight.
- Matt: Well... yeah, it is.
701
00:41:40,802 --> 00:41:44,153
I see your eyes bulging
through the holes.
702
00:41:47,069 --> 00:41:48,636
Oh, yeah. Beautiful.
703
00:41:48,810 --> 00:41:50,072
Woman: Before he got
this mask...
704
00:41:50,246 --> 00:41:51,726
Matt: It's like he turns
into somebody else
705
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:53,162
- when this thing's on.
- Woman: I know.
706
00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:57,123
Jarrett: I think that
when someone puts on a mask
707
00:41:57,340 --> 00:42:00,692
or a costume, they feel like
they can kind of
708
00:42:01,127 --> 00:42:04,434
just be a different person.
If there's something you wanna
709
00:42:04,652 --> 00:42:06,132
change about yourself,
you kinda can.
710
00:42:06,785 --> 00:42:09,831
Like if there's someone, like,
in my school walking around,
711
00:42:10,005 --> 00:42:12,225
they wouldn't know me.
I could just act like
712
00:42:12,399 --> 00:42:14,793
a completely different person
and they wouldn't know at all.
713
00:42:15,271 --> 00:42:17,360
It's hot in there.
714
00:42:31,810 --> 00:42:33,420
Robby: I drank a lot of it
that night.
715
00:42:33,594 --> 00:42:35,378
Reporter: The viral video
shows Robby Stratton
716
00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:36,815
running through
a convenience store
717
00:42:36,989 --> 00:42:38,556
with an alligator in his hands.
718
00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:40,862
He takes the animal
in the beer fridge as well.
719
00:42:41,036 --> 00:42:42,777
Robby: I don't even remember
coming up here.
720
00:42:42,995 --> 00:42:44,736
Reporter: We asked Stratton where the alligator came from.
721
00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:48,174
Robby: No clue. No clue.
I literally came...
722
00:42:48,348 --> 00:42:50,263
Reporter: This Florida man
is accused of having sex
723
00:42:50,437 --> 00:42:53,266
with a miniature horse
on multiple occasions.
724
00:42:56,138 --> 00:42:57,705
Reporter: He's now being held
in the Marion County Jail.
725
00:42:57,879 --> 00:42:59,446
Wrinkles: I don't know
what's next for me.
726
00:42:59,620 --> 00:43:01,840
I live day by day. This is kind of where I'm at,
727
00:43:02,014 --> 00:43:03,798
this is what I got,
this what I'm working with.
728
00:43:04,277 --> 00:43:07,019
Um... I don't know.
I'm just kind of, uh...
729
00:43:07,193 --> 00:43:09,108
I'm just kind of living out
my last years.
730
00:43:10,457 --> 00:43:13,591
I don't know if there'll be a Wrinkles legacy, so to speak.
731
00:43:13,765 --> 00:43:16,463
I think it'll just be like,
"Hey, remember that one time
732
00:43:16,637 --> 00:43:18,639
we called that clown?
That was scary."
733
00:43:22,121 --> 00:43:23,426
Wrinkles: Yeah,
Wrinkles the Clown.
734
00:43:23,992 --> 00:43:25,646
Boy 1: Sup yo, watcha you doin?
735
00:43:26,821 --> 00:43:27,648
Wrinkles: Who's this?
736
00:43:29,041 --> 00:43:30,433
Boy 1: Who this? It's your mom.
737
00:43:30,608 --> 00:43:31,696
Wrinkles: Oh, that's good one.
738
00:43:31,870 --> 00:43:32,827
I haven't heard that one
yet today.
739
00:43:33,001 --> 00:43:34,307
Boy 2: Hey, Wrinkles the Clown.
740
00:43:34,481 --> 00:43:35,395
Wrinkles: Yeah?
741
00:43:37,527 --> 00:43:38,964
Boy 2: You have
to scare somebody?
742
00:43:40,008 --> 00:43:41,140
Wrinkles: Yeah.
That's what I do.
743
00:43:44,926 --> 00:43:47,363
It never ends. You got
the pranks, you know,
744
00:43:47,537 --> 00:43:49,670
but mostly it's just
real violent stuff.
745
00:43:52,499 --> 00:43:53,805
Woman 1: Hey I'll come down
to fucking Florida
746
00:43:53,979 --> 00:43:55,676
and beat your old wrinkly ass.
747
00:43:55,850 --> 00:43:58,897
Girl: We live in a big pasture,
and my dad has guns
748
00:43:59,201 --> 00:44:01,421
to shoot the coyotes
but he'll shoot you instead.
749
00:44:01,595 --> 00:44:03,423
Man 1: I will piss on you
right now.
750
00:44:03,597 --> 00:44:05,381
Woman 2: I'll fucking
rip your dick off
751
00:44:05,555 --> 00:44:07,122
and fucking make you eat it.
752
00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:09,342
Woman 3: I'll slap you
with a fucking jackhammer.
753
00:44:09,516 --> 00:44:11,561
Man 2: Fucking Mexican Mafia
coming for your ass.
754
00:44:11,779 --> 00:44:13,172
We'll cut out
your tongue, bitch.
755
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,261
Boy 3: And I'll stick needles
in your eyeballs
756
00:44:15,478 --> 00:44:17,089
and tie you to a fucking tree.
757
00:44:17,524 --> 00:44:19,657
And fucking chop off
your fingers and fucking...
758
00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:23,051
just fucking torture you,
you fucking sick bastard.
759
00:44:23,486 --> 00:44:26,054
Man 3: I'mma fucking hang you u
like fucking Vladimir Putin.
760
00:44:26,228 --> 00:44:27,708
I'll take this fucking
baseball bat
761
00:44:27,926 --> 00:44:29,449
and beat
your fucking brains in.
762
00:44:31,451 --> 00:44:32,887
Man 4: I'mma burn
your clown ass.
763
00:44:40,939 --> 00:44:43,158
Boy 4: Kill yourself,
Wrinkles the fucking clown.
764
00:44:44,986 --> 00:44:47,510
Boy: If Wrinkles came
to my house, I'll tell him,
765
00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:51,210
"I have a game for you.
We'll just stay shoulder
766
00:44:51,384 --> 00:44:53,473
to shoulder," and then push you
in the water
767
00:44:53,647 --> 00:44:55,388
with the alligators.
768
00:45:08,140 --> 00:45:10,055
Wrinkles: It's kinda
disheartening to hear
769
00:45:10,229 --> 00:45:12,405
and it's...
But at the same time, I just...
770
00:45:12,579 --> 00:45:14,929
You know, it doesn't really
have an effect on me anymore.
771
00:45:15,147 --> 00:45:16,539
It's like you know,
I'm still kicking.
772
00:45:16,714 --> 00:45:18,367
No one's come to try
to kill me yet.
773
00:45:19,847 --> 00:45:21,936
You know, sometimes these kids text me and like...
774
00:45:22,545 --> 00:45:24,852
the more I text back,
the more they're trying to call
775
00:45:25,026 --> 00:45:27,246
and find out more information
or... they wanna prove
776
00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:29,291
to their friends I'm real.
They're always asking me,
777
00:45:29,465 --> 00:45:32,642
"Send me a picture of yourself.
Send me a video. You're fake.
778
00:45:32,991 --> 00:45:34,470
You're not real. Send me a..."
You know?
779
00:45:34,644 --> 00:45:36,646
It doesn't really matter
who's behind the mask, you know?
780
00:45:36,864 --> 00:45:38,910
Like, it doesn't matter
who Wrinkles is.
781
00:45:39,084 --> 00:45:40,215
Wrinkles is Wrinkles.
782
00:45:44,393 --> 00:45:47,309
Boy 1: Who are you?
Where did you come from?
783
00:45:47,832 --> 00:45:50,704
- How is your life?
- Man: I wanna know who you are.
784
00:45:50,878 --> 00:45:52,967
Girl 1: Who are you,
and why are you doing this?
785
00:45:53,228 --> 00:45:56,579
- Boy 2: Who are you?
- Boy 3: Who are you?
786
00:45:56,754 --> 00:45:59,626
Boy 4: Who are you, and can you tell me your real name please?
787
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,150
Boy 5: You're just this weird
old man probably.
788
00:46:02,324 --> 00:46:04,022
Girl 2: Why do you have
to wear a mask?
789
00:46:08,766 --> 00:46:10,115
Man: You don't know
if he's a good person
790
00:46:10,289 --> 00:46:11,769
or if he has bad intentions.
791
00:46:12,073 --> 00:46:14,162
You don't know if he's trying to do this for fun
792
00:46:14,423 --> 00:46:15,773
or trying kill you.
793
00:46:15,947 --> 00:46:17,296
Boy: Who are you
under that mask?
794
00:46:17,513 --> 00:46:19,428
Who are you under that mask?
795
00:46:19,602 --> 00:46:21,474
Can you let me see
under that mask?
796
00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:24,782
Can I get who... who are you?
797
00:46:25,608 --> 00:46:27,001
Cyera: When he's a clown,
he could live
798
00:46:27,436 --> 00:46:30,222
in the middle of a shack.
Whenever he's a regular person,
799
00:46:30,396 --> 00:46:31,789
he could be living
in a big, old house
800
00:46:31,963 --> 00:46:33,399
in the middle of town
in Florida.
801
00:46:33,921 --> 00:46:35,618
My friends have said
that he's been working like this
802
00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:38,056
- for over, like, 65 years.
- It's also funny to imagine
803
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:40,188
that he refuses to drive
or take cars.
804
00:46:40,362 --> 00:46:42,321
He just walks around everywhere.
805
00:46:45,454 --> 00:46:47,413
You can call him.
He will scare people for you,
806
00:46:47,587 --> 00:46:50,111
and he's pretty scary himself.
807
00:46:50,285 --> 00:46:52,200
And it's sort of like
a Bogeyman-man type, uh,
808
00:46:52,374 --> 00:46:55,508
type situation,
except actually existent.
809
00:46:55,682 --> 00:47:00,339
Rena: He probably, on Halloween,
he's like very scary,
810
00:47:00,513 --> 00:47:03,298
but on New Year's,
he's, like, very happy
811
00:47:04,343 --> 00:47:06,301
because it's a new year
to scare kids.
812
00:47:07,346 --> 00:47:09,304
There's two people in his body.
Multiple personality.
813
00:47:09,478 --> 00:47:11,132
It's like bipolar disorder
or something.
814
00:47:13,178 --> 00:47:15,223
You could be sitting
beside a murderer
815
00:47:15,397 --> 00:47:16,355
and not even knowing it.
816
00:48:29,341 --> 00:48:31,734
- Man 1: Jamie!
- Woman 1: Jamie!
817
00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:34,259
- Man 2: Jamie!
- Woman 2: Jamie!
818
00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:49,143
- Man 1: Jamie!
- Woman 1: Jamie!
819
00:48:50,318 --> 00:48:51,580
- Man 2: Jamie!
- Woman 2: Jamie!
820
00:48:51,754 --> 00:48:54,627
- Man 1: Jamie!
821
00:49:11,774 --> 00:49:13,124
- Man: Yeah?
- All right.
822
00:49:13,341 --> 00:49:14,952
How am I gonna know
when I'm not in frame,
823
00:49:15,126 --> 00:49:16,954
or are you guys gonna be able
to cut that or if you...
824
00:49:17,215 --> 00:49:18,651
Man: That's all... yeah,
it's all mic check...
825
00:49:18,825 --> 00:49:20,305
- Don't worry about it all.
- Okay. All right.
826
00:49:20,479 --> 00:49:21,567
- Man: Mic will move around it.
- Lambert: Roger.
827
00:49:30,358 --> 00:49:31,751
- Lambert: We good?
- Man: Yes. Action.
828
00:49:45,852 --> 00:49:47,158
Wrinkles: I'm Wrinkles
the Clown.
829
00:49:48,246 --> 00:49:50,857
I'm not a 65 year old man.
830
00:49:51,118 --> 00:49:52,163
- Ready.
- Action.
831
00:49:55,383 --> 00:49:57,124
Wrinkles: You know,
the actor that was chosen
832
00:49:57,298 --> 00:50:00,214
to represent the myth
of Wrinkles under the mask,
833
00:50:00,388 --> 00:50:02,390
I think he was a perfect match.
834
00:50:02,564 --> 00:50:05,306
I think he embodies what Wrinkles would look like.
835
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,178
He has wrinkles
on all the right spots.
836
00:50:07,352 --> 00:50:09,658
He has the gray hair.
You know, is this guy nice?
837
00:50:09,832 --> 00:50:10,964
Is this guy gonna murder me?
838
00:50:11,834 --> 00:50:13,010
And that's kind of
how Wrinkles is,
839
00:50:13,184 --> 00:50:14,185
you don't know.
840
00:50:15,447 --> 00:50:17,492
There's a number of reasons
why I think it's a good idea
841
00:50:17,666 --> 00:50:20,191
for me to keep
my identity hidden.
842
00:50:20,495 --> 00:50:22,628
I don't wanna make this project
about me.
843
00:50:22,889 --> 00:50:25,457
If people knew who was
under the mask,
844
00:50:25,805 --> 00:50:27,763
it would kind of
ruin the experience.
845
00:50:28,547 --> 00:50:31,158
Besides the fact of just trying
to preserve the mystery
846
00:50:31,332 --> 00:50:32,768
of the Wrinkles character.
847
00:50:32,942 --> 00:50:35,293
Wrinkles gets multiple
death threats a day,
848
00:50:35,902 --> 00:50:38,383
and that's fine for Wrinkles,
that's fine for the project.
849
00:50:38,818 --> 00:50:41,473
But I just don't need that
in my personal life.
850
00:50:42,648 --> 00:50:44,954
At the end of the day,
Wrinkles is just a guy in a mask
851
00:50:45,129 --> 00:50:48,784
and a suit, and these kids
and these people have taken
852
00:50:48,958 --> 00:50:50,960
the Wrinkles character
and molded it into
853
00:50:51,135 --> 00:50:53,572
what they want it to be.
Some of them think he's funny.
854
00:50:53,746 --> 00:50:56,749
Some of them think he's rude.
Some of them think he's scary.
855
00:50:57,097 --> 00:50:58,925
Some of them think he's fake.
856
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,016
Some of them think he's a ghost
or some kind of paranormal,
857
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:05,888
like, apparition,
and really left it open
858
00:51:06,063 --> 00:51:08,630
to let people decide
on their own
859
00:51:08,804 --> 00:51:10,241
what they think about Wrinkles.
860
00:51:14,767 --> 00:51:16,682
I, never in a million years,
thought that anybody
861
00:51:16,856 --> 00:51:18,901
would think that Wrinkles
is a real person.
862
00:51:19,337 --> 00:51:21,948
Let alone that he scares
children for money.
863
00:51:23,906 --> 00:51:24,994
You know, I made it up.
864
00:51:27,171 --> 00:51:30,478
But I think parents that use
the Wrinkles' voicemail
865
00:51:30,652 --> 00:51:33,090
as an actual
disciplinary tactic
866
00:51:33,264 --> 00:51:35,135
to keep their children in line
867
00:51:35,353 --> 00:51:38,965
is kind of messed up.
I mean, it's not something
868
00:51:39,139 --> 00:51:40,662
that I would do as a parent.
869
00:51:40,923 --> 00:51:43,187
Um, I think it's kind
of psychologically damaging.
870
00:51:44,405 --> 00:51:47,539
Woman: Hey, I have
these two to three kids
871
00:51:47,713 --> 00:51:51,543
- that don't know how to listen.
- Boy: No.
872
00:51:51,891 --> 00:51:54,285
Woman: We'd give you the price of 30 bucks to come scare them.
873
00:51:54,459 --> 00:51:55,634
Boy: No.
874
00:51:55,982 --> 00:51:57,679
Wrinkles: You know,
it's not too far off
875
00:51:57,940 --> 00:51:59,551
from what is kind of
876
00:51:59,725 --> 00:52:02,510
already socially acceptable
with telling their kids
877
00:52:02,815 --> 00:52:04,338
that if you're
not a good person,
878
00:52:04,512 --> 00:52:07,036
or if you lie, if you cheat,
you steal, you know,
879
00:52:07,254 --> 00:52:08,951
you're going to burn in hell
for eternity.
880
00:52:09,909 --> 00:52:12,303
You know, I think
it's more cruel and unusual
881
00:52:12,477 --> 00:52:14,957
than anything that Wrinkles
has ever done
882
00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:16,481
or has ever claimed to do.
883
00:52:23,314 --> 00:52:25,229
Wrinkles: I was always just very curious as a child,
884
00:52:25,403 --> 00:52:28,232
and just very imaginative.
885
00:52:30,973 --> 00:52:33,628
Girl 1: Okay. And you put this
Wrinkles mask on.
886
00:52:37,328 --> 00:52:38,503
Girl 2: Not on me.
887
00:52:39,460 --> 00:52:40,548
Wrinkles: The clown
under the bed
888
00:52:41,027 --> 00:52:42,594
is just such a go-to
889
00:52:42,768 --> 00:52:46,424
for anyone to think of
because of how iconic it is
890
00:52:46,598 --> 00:52:49,601
going back to the Poltergeist
clown under the bed kinda thing.
891
00:52:49,775 --> 00:52:51,690
I remember, as a kid,
getting a head start
892
00:52:51,864 --> 00:52:53,518
and running into my bed
because I was afraid
893
00:52:53,692 --> 00:52:55,302
something was gonna come out
from underneath
894
00:52:55,476 --> 00:52:56,956
and grab my ankles
and pull me under,
895
00:52:57,130 --> 00:52:58,305
and that will be the end of me.
896
00:52:58,914 --> 00:53:01,265
It is a classic kind of fear.
897
00:53:02,962 --> 00:53:04,529
I tried getting
in the trundle bed,
898
00:53:04,964 --> 00:53:07,923
and I was... I was too big. We couldn't close the drawer,
899
00:53:08,794 --> 00:53:10,752
which we all kind of
got a chuckle out of, you know.
900
00:53:10,926 --> 00:53:13,538
So a friend who's a little
slimmer than I am, said,
901
00:53:13,712 --> 00:53:15,322
"Hey, you know what,
I could fit."
902
00:53:15,540 --> 00:53:17,324
"Oh All right. Well, here.
Put the costume on.
903
00:53:17,498 --> 00:53:19,805
And I'll get behind the camera and let's make this video."
904
00:53:21,459 --> 00:53:22,547
Man: All right.
Is everyone ready?
905
00:53:22,764 --> 00:53:24,375
- Girl: Yup.
- Man: All right.
906
00:53:56,798 --> 00:53:57,756
Man: Action.
907
00:54:02,456 --> 00:54:03,457
Man: Action 2.
908
00:54:03,936 --> 00:54:05,242
This video has
909
00:54:05,416 --> 00:54:06,634
a couple elements
to make it look
910
00:54:06,852 --> 00:54:08,941
more like a security camera.
911
00:54:09,376 --> 00:54:11,857
With these effects,
you can obscure things more.
912
00:54:12,249 --> 00:54:14,512
And I felt like that really
helped make the video
913
00:54:14,686 --> 00:54:15,643
more believable.
914
00:54:19,865 --> 00:54:20,735
Wrinkles: Stop for a second.
915
00:54:22,694 --> 00:54:23,738
Okay. Doing good.
916
00:54:29,962 --> 00:54:31,006
This time you're not gonna,
like, do...
917
00:54:31,180 --> 00:54:32,356
Just gonna kinda look at her.
918
00:54:32,530 --> 00:54:33,835
You're not gonna
do anything, though.
919
00:54:34,009 --> 00:54:35,402
You don't wanna do anything
too creepy.
920
00:54:35,576 --> 00:54:36,360
Maybe put a doll next to her
or something.
921
00:54:40,538 --> 00:54:42,540
Mm-hmm. Get out.
Start looking around.
922
00:54:48,154 --> 00:54:49,242
All right, stop.
923
00:54:49,895 --> 00:54:52,898
What if we just had him
grab the camera, disable it,
924
00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:55,204
and then you get to use
your imagination
925
00:54:55,379 --> 00:54:58,164
of what happened after that.
It leaves it open.
926
00:54:58,643 --> 00:55:02,429
And so it makes it
create a story.
927
00:55:02,821 --> 00:55:04,823
A story that you're going
to continue.
928
00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:12,700
Wrinkles: We always make
a lot of jokes
929
00:55:12,874 --> 00:55:14,746
about living here
in Naples, Florida.
930
00:55:15,007 --> 00:55:16,661
You know, people just come here to die,
931
00:55:16,835 --> 00:55:18,532
and if you're 70 and up,
932
00:55:18,706 --> 00:55:19,968
and you wanna play golf,
933
00:55:20,142 --> 00:55:21,840
and you wanna
be in competitions
934
00:55:22,362 --> 00:55:24,408
with your neighbor
on whose house looks nicer
935
00:55:24,582 --> 00:55:26,975
and who drives a better car,
then, yeah, Naples, Florida
936
00:55:27,149 --> 00:55:29,543
is a great place to live.
So I kind of love
937
00:55:29,717 --> 00:55:30,936
that Wrinkles...
938
00:55:31,893 --> 00:55:33,199
looked older,
939
00:55:33,373 --> 00:55:34,853
and he kind of looked
a little creepy.
940
00:55:35,027 --> 00:55:38,073
And he kind of reminded me
of my grandfather
941
00:55:38,247 --> 00:55:42,730
who was retired, always grumpy, but hilarious
942
00:55:42,904 --> 00:55:44,993
and always had the best jokes.
943
00:55:47,605 --> 00:55:48,649
For the most part,
I've always been
944
00:55:48,823 --> 00:55:50,608
kind of quiet and kind of shy.
945
00:55:50,782 --> 00:55:53,480
And I've never been
in performing arts,
946
00:55:53,654 --> 00:55:55,874
and to all of a sudden
turn on a switch
947
00:55:56,048 --> 00:55:59,965
and just be a personality
that wasn't myself
948
00:56:00,487 --> 00:56:03,098
that was kind of funny
but kind of rude
949
00:56:03,447 --> 00:56:06,101
and just kind of annoyed
by children.
950
00:56:06,624 --> 00:56:09,757
I felt like it was one of
the biggest rushes of my life.
951
00:56:12,978 --> 00:56:14,066
Wrinkles: Yeah.
Wrinkles the Clown.
952
00:56:15,633 --> 00:56:16,721
Girl: Hello.
953
00:56:16,938 --> 00:56:18,070
Wrinkles: Yeah.
What do you want?
954
00:56:20,246 --> 00:56:21,595
Wrinkles: We're gonna get
a lot of that.
955
00:56:21,769 --> 00:56:23,205
They can't believe
that someone answered
956
00:56:23,423 --> 00:56:24,598
and just kinda hang up.
957
00:56:32,214 --> 00:56:33,259
Wrinkles: Yeah,
Wrinkles the Clown.
958
00:56:33,433 --> 00:56:35,522
Girls: Hi, Wrinkles.
959
00:56:35,696 --> 00:56:37,176
Wrinkles: Hey,
how is it going, guys?
960
00:56:37,394 --> 00:56:40,353
Girl: I love your voicemail.
It's so cool.
961
00:56:40,527 --> 00:56:42,573
Wrinkles: Oh, yeah. That's nice.
Thank you.
962
00:56:42,964 --> 00:56:45,097
Boy: Dude, that voicemail
sounds just like that.
963
00:56:45,445 --> 00:56:46,664
Wrinkles: Well, that's my voice
964
00:56:46,838 --> 00:56:47,926
so that would make sense,
right?
965
00:56:49,144 --> 00:56:50,232
- Woman: Wrinkles.
- Wrinkles: Yeah.
966
00:56:50,972 --> 00:56:52,539
Woman: Do you have
a YouTube channel?
967
00:56:52,713 --> 00:56:54,280
Wrinkles: No.
I don't use the internet.
968
00:56:54,541 --> 00:56:56,195
- Woman: Why?
- Wrinkles: I don't know.
969
00:56:56,369 --> 00:56:57,849
'Cause I don't like
the internet. It's too hard.
970
00:56:58,284 --> 00:56:59,807
Girl: Are you a killer clown?
971
00:56:59,981 --> 00:57:01,156
Wrinkles: No.
I never killed nobody.
972
00:57:02,027 --> 00:57:05,117
Girl: You're...
Everybody confirmed
973
00:57:05,291 --> 00:57:07,162
that you're bad
but I don't believe them.
974
00:57:08,207 --> 00:57:10,296
Wrinkles: No... yeah. You know,
a lot of people think
975
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:14,648
- a lot of different things.
- Girl: You're so nice.
976
00:57:15,867 --> 00:57:16,998
Wrinkles: You caught me
on a good day.
977
00:57:18,391 --> 00:57:19,740
- Girl: Okay, Wrinkles.
- Wrinkles: All right.
978
00:57:19,914 --> 00:57:21,307
- You kids be good.
- Girl: Bye.
979
00:57:21,786 --> 00:57:23,309
- Man: Bye.
- Girl: Nice to meet you.
980
00:57:23,483 --> 00:57:24,745
Wrinkles: Nice meeting you too.
981
00:57:28,445 --> 00:57:30,272
Wrinkles: I feel like
five years ago,
982
00:57:30,447 --> 00:57:33,754
I was so much more naive
than I am now
983
00:57:33,928 --> 00:57:36,061
because I was actually
really able to prove
984
00:57:36,278 --> 00:57:38,063
a lot of things to myself.
985
00:57:38,890 --> 00:57:43,242
You know, I put a picture,
a name, and a phone number
986
00:57:43,416 --> 00:57:46,158
on a sticker, and...
987
00:57:46,767 --> 00:57:48,595
people just did whatever they wanted with it.
988
00:57:48,769 --> 00:57:50,118
People of course
are taking pictures of it,
989
00:57:50,292 --> 00:57:51,946
- putting it online.
990
00:57:52,425 --> 00:57:53,905
Wrinkles: After seeing that,
991
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,342
hey, you know what,
I'm gonna start bolstering
992
00:57:56,516 --> 00:57:58,170
this online presence as well.
993
00:57:58,344 --> 00:58:02,217
So I created the HvUseen
Wrinkles website
994
00:58:02,391 --> 00:58:04,219
and YouTube channel.
995
00:58:04,393 --> 00:58:05,743
And that's when I started,
like,
996
00:58:06,308 --> 00:58:09,050
putting a lot more pictures
and, you know,
997
00:58:09,224 --> 00:58:11,096
quote, unquote
"Wrinkles sightings".
998
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,751
I'm trying to think if the video
or the sticker came first.
999
00:58:13,968 --> 00:58:15,404
I think the video came first.
1000
00:58:20,409 --> 00:58:24,501
So after that, it became kind
of fun to make Wrinkles videos.
1001
00:58:24,936 --> 00:58:27,939
The second one was Wrinkles walking through a parking lot
1002
00:58:28,113 --> 00:58:31,595
with a shopping cart full of junk as if he was homeless.
1003
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:35,642
And the next video is on US 41.
I think we actually
1004
00:58:35,816 --> 00:58:37,992
shot that video
on the same night.
1005
00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:42,867
Man: Hey. Huh?
1006
00:58:50,352 --> 00:58:52,180
Wrinkles: NBC2 local news
1007
00:58:52,354 --> 00:58:53,921
was really what kick-started
everything.
1008
00:58:54,226 --> 00:58:57,272
It is a thing of nightmares.
Have you seen this clown?
1009
00:58:57,446 --> 00:58:59,797
Julia: Meet Southwest Florida's
Wrinkles the Clown.
1010
00:58:59,971 --> 00:59:01,799
Wrinkles: People pay me to go
scare their friends.
1011
00:59:02,539 --> 00:59:04,845
People pay me to go dance
at their parties.
1012
00:59:05,672 --> 00:59:08,414
You know, that kind of things.
Bar Mitzvahs and whatnots.
1013
00:59:08,806 --> 00:59:11,504
Wrinkles: All that content
was already in place.
1014
00:59:11,678 --> 00:59:13,985
So it was just so easy
for them to put 'em together
1015
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:17,423
and make this, like,
fantastic story.
1016
00:59:17,597 --> 00:59:19,773
Reporter: ...an internet hit.
A Google Plus account
1017
00:59:19,947 --> 00:59:21,601
is dedicated to his sightings.
1018
00:59:21,906 --> 00:59:23,385
Wrinkles: That created
an opportunity for people
1019
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,910
to say, "Why is this man
dressing up as a clown?
1020
00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:28,695
What is he doing?
Why does he keep doing it?"
1021
00:59:30,436 --> 00:59:31,219
Man: Oh, my God.
1022
00:59:32,264 --> 00:59:33,918
Wrinkles: Once it hit
The Washington Post,
1023
00:59:34,135 --> 00:59:35,572
then it just kind of
snowballed after that.
1024
00:59:35,746 --> 00:59:37,095
It's actually
the first clown ever
1025
00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:39,227
that can't get other clowns
to squeeze into a car with him.
1026
00:59:39,401 --> 00:59:40,881
They're like, "No. You know,
you're a little bit too creepy.
1027
00:59:41,099 --> 00:59:42,230
We're gonna walk."
1028
00:59:42,927 --> 00:59:44,493
Woman: The man inside the mask
is a 65-year-old
1029
00:59:44,755 --> 00:59:47,932
Rhode Island transplant who got sick of making balloon animals
1030
00:59:48,236 --> 00:59:51,718
and has moved more towards a menacing "See this balloon,
1031
00:59:51,936 --> 00:59:53,241
kid? It's your head"
1032
00:59:53,415 --> 00:59:54,808
before popping it
kind of a clown.
1033
00:59:55,069 --> 00:59:56,593
Like happy birthday, Suzie.
1034
00:59:56,767 --> 00:59:59,160
Well, we got you a gift
that will haunt you forever.
1035
00:59:59,726 --> 01:00:02,120
Wrinkles: Watching Jimmy Fallon
make fun of Wrinkles,
1036
01:00:02,424 --> 01:00:04,383
I'm like, "Oh, my God.
I can't believe that this
1037
01:00:04,862 --> 01:00:06,777
actually went as far as it did.
1038
01:00:10,432 --> 01:00:12,478
I think a lot of people
started recognizing
1039
01:00:12,652 --> 01:00:14,175
that whoever this
Wrinkles the Clown is,
1040
01:00:14,436 --> 01:00:16,438
he's getting a lot of attention,
and I'd like to get
1041
01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:17,788
some of that attention too
1042
01:00:17,962 --> 01:00:19,354
and I'm gonna dress up
like a clown
1043
01:00:19,528 --> 01:00:21,139
and go in the woods
and scare my friends.
1044
01:00:21,487 --> 01:00:23,663
Anchor: Disturbing report out of Greenville, South Carolina
1045
01:00:23,881 --> 01:00:25,970
in a neighborhood there.
People living there say
1046
01:00:26,187 --> 01:00:29,364
a clown is trying to lure
children into the woods.
1047
01:00:29,538 --> 01:00:31,540
Boy: Right there at that tree
back there.
1048
01:00:31,758 --> 01:00:33,499
Anchor: They say he uses
money and candy
1049
01:00:33,673 --> 01:00:34,979
to get children's attention.
1050
01:00:35,153 --> 01:00:37,808
I thought my child was,
you know, seeing things.
1051
01:00:38,243 --> 01:00:40,811
The next day I had
about 30 kids come up to me
1052
01:00:40,985 --> 01:00:42,726
and say, "Did you see the clowns
in the woods?"
1053
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:44,945
I'm over here to make sure
we get a full understanding
1054
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,600
of what is law enforcement doing
because we have around
1055
01:00:47,774 --> 01:00:49,428
two to three hundred children
out here.
1056
01:00:49,602 --> 01:00:53,650
We were working some overtime
squads to patrol in areas
1057
01:00:53,824 --> 01:00:56,217
where we thought
that we would see
1058
01:00:56,391 --> 01:00:57,958
a potential clown sighting.
1059
01:00:58,393 --> 01:01:00,744
What was different
about this situation
1060
01:01:00,918 --> 01:01:05,531
was the viral nature
of the social media.
1061
01:01:08,142 --> 01:01:09,622
- Anchor 1: Clowns in the...
- Anchor 2: Clown sightings...
1062
01:01:10,101 --> 01:01:12,190
Anchor 3: Clowns terrorizing
a town in South Carolina.
1063
01:01:13,191 --> 01:01:14,627
Woman 1: Greenville County 911.
1064
01:01:14,845 --> 01:01:16,194
What is the location
of your emergency?
1065
01:01:16,673 --> 01:01:18,587
Woman 2: I am reporting the,
um... the silver clown.
1066
01:01:18,762 --> 01:01:20,328
Woman 1: You're reporting what?
1067
01:01:20,502 --> 01:01:21,939
Woman 2: The news about the clown that's, like,
1068
01:01:22,113 --> 01:01:23,680
reportedly going around
our neighborhood
1069
01:01:24,028 --> 01:01:25,725
and kidnapping children,
raping 'em, and killing 'em.
1070
01:01:25,986 --> 01:01:27,292
Woman 1: Are you just calling to tell me this is in the news
1071
01:01:27,466 --> 01:01:28,510
or do you see him out there?
1072
01:01:28,685 --> 01:01:29,816
Woman 2: I've seen him out here
1073
01:01:30,295 --> 01:01:32,950
Ken: I felt the fear
would overtake us.
1074
01:01:36,083 --> 01:01:37,215
I'm begging you.
1075
01:01:37,824 --> 01:01:40,914
Whoever you are, clowns,
get away.
1076
01:01:41,088 --> 01:01:42,437
Anchor: The latest
clown sighting
1077
01:01:42,611 --> 01:01:43,743
happened Tuesday night at
1078
01:01:43,917 --> 01:01:45,527
Shemwood Crossing Apartments.
1079
01:01:45,832 --> 01:01:47,878
Woman: All we see is these men
jumping over the fence,
1080
01:01:48,139 --> 01:01:50,402
you know, looking at the kids,
and then they take off running
1081
01:01:50,576 --> 01:01:53,405
so we all run back here
and chasing them and stuff.
1082
01:01:53,579 --> 01:01:55,755
We've seen 'em busting through a wood right here,
1083
01:01:55,973 --> 01:01:57,670
pulling the wood,
and then they ran through.
1084
01:01:57,931 --> 01:02:00,020
Man: I could see if my kid get snatched up by one of them.
1085
01:02:00,194 --> 01:02:01,979
You know what I mean,
but he's just...
1086
01:02:02,762 --> 01:02:05,809
It's crazy, all right.
It's real.
1087
01:02:08,028 --> 01:02:10,509
Wrinkles: It was kind of scary
to see where it was going
1088
01:02:10,683 --> 01:02:12,990
because I didn't know
if like, "Oh, shit.
1089
01:02:13,164 --> 01:02:14,774
Did we have anything to do
with this?"
1090
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:17,864
Before you know it, you have
this creepy clown phenomenon.
1091
01:02:18,038 --> 01:02:20,171
Anchor: Since then,
sightings keep increasing.
1092
01:02:20,345 --> 01:02:22,260
Those creepy clowns
are making headlines
1093
01:02:22,434 --> 01:02:23,609
from coast to coast.
1094
01:02:24,305 --> 01:02:26,046
Anchor 2: Flomaton, Montgomery,
Moundville, Brighton, Irondale,
1095
01:02:26,220 --> 01:02:28,179
Rainbow City, Anniston.
It's happening everywhere.
1096
01:02:28,353 --> 01:02:29,963
Anchor 3: It started
in South Carolina.
1097
01:02:30,224 --> 01:02:31,312
- Now it's up here.
- Man: I'm just freaking out
1098
01:02:31,486 --> 01:02:33,140
'cause I'm going
all over Instagram
1099
01:02:33,358 --> 01:02:35,926
and all I see is, "Oh, clowns,
clowns, clowns," you know?
1100
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:37,275
Man: Nobody knows how
to defend against it
1101
01:02:37,449 --> 01:02:38,798
because we don't know
if it's a prank
1102
01:02:38,972 --> 01:02:40,452
or if they're really trying
to harm people.
1103
01:02:40,626 --> 01:02:42,019
Wrinkles: Now, kids
are carrying around machetes
1104
01:02:42,193 --> 01:02:43,977
with clown masks on
and things like that.
1105
01:02:44,151 --> 01:02:45,674
Reporter: Police Chief
Kenny Hampton said
1106
01:02:45,892 --> 01:02:47,764
he saw a clown
carrying a machete.
1107
01:02:48,329 --> 01:02:49,722
He's subject to get shot.
1108
01:02:49,896 --> 01:02:51,202
Reporter: A clown attacked you
here tonight
1109
01:02:51,376 --> 01:02:52,377
and cut you with a knife?
1110
01:02:52,594 --> 01:02:54,161
- Yeah.
- How scared were you?
1111
01:02:54,683 --> 01:02:57,164
I was, like, a lot scared.
1112
01:02:57,382 --> 01:02:59,036
Reporter: He used
his selfie stick
1113
01:02:59,384 --> 01:03:00,994
to hit the clown who then
disappeared into the woods.
1114
01:03:02,126 --> 01:03:03,301
Man: Sir, I was not scaring.
I promise you.
1115
01:03:03,475 --> 01:03:05,042
I was not scaring nobody.
1116
01:03:05,216 --> 01:03:08,393
I'm a kid, and I'm afraid
that... that the clowns
1117
01:03:08,567 --> 01:03:10,134
are gonna kidnap me.
1118
01:03:10,351 --> 01:03:12,701
You can't be too cautious
when it comes to kids.
1119
01:03:12,876 --> 01:03:15,487
You can definitely...
Especially with shootings,
1120
01:03:15,661 --> 01:03:16,836
you know, and this weird
clown thing.
1121
01:03:17,402 --> 01:03:19,883
Wrinkles: God forbid a kid ever
shows up with a bomb
1122
01:03:20,057 --> 01:03:22,320
or with a machete
in a clown suit
1123
01:03:22,494 --> 01:03:24,148
and starts hacking people up
at a school
1124
01:03:24,322 --> 01:03:27,064
or anything like that.
And, especially, if they ever
1125
01:03:27,238 --> 01:03:28,500
blamed it on Wrinkles,
1126
01:03:28,674 --> 01:03:30,154
that would make me
feel terrible.
1127
01:03:30,328 --> 01:03:31,938
- I am a nervous wreck.
- Woman: The fact that
1128
01:03:32,112 --> 01:03:33,722
there was a threat
of a shooting at the school,
1129
01:03:33,897 --> 01:03:35,376
and not just one of the schools,
it was all three of them.
1130
01:03:35,550 --> 01:03:36,943
Anchor: The most serious
incident so far though,
1131
01:03:37,117 --> 01:03:38,423
has been the death
of a 16-year-old
1132
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,033
in Reading, Pennsylvania.
1133
01:03:40,207 --> 01:03:44,733
It's extremely alarming
about what's going on
1134
01:03:44,908 --> 01:03:47,606
right now in the United States.
1135
01:03:50,739 --> 01:03:52,350
Woman: What the fuck
is happening?
1136
01:03:52,524 --> 01:03:54,395
- Man: I don't know.
- Reporter: After rumors spread
1137
01:03:54,569 --> 01:03:56,223
on the Penn State Campus,
Tuesday morning,
1138
01:03:56,397 --> 01:03:57,921
that clowns
were spotted nearby,
1139
01:03:58,095 --> 01:03:59,487
over 500 students
1140
01:03:59,661 --> 01:04:01,141
took to the streets
to find them.
1141
01:04:01,402 --> 01:04:03,883
All: Fuck that clown!
Fuck that clown!
1142
01:04:04,057 --> 01:04:06,146
Fuck that clown!
Fuck that clown!
1143
01:04:06,625 --> 01:04:08,235
Fuck that clown!
1144
01:04:09,106 --> 01:04:10,716
Wrinkles: I definitely
took a step back,
1145
01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:14,720
but once I saw the power
of throwing an idea out
1146
01:04:14,894 --> 01:04:17,723
and having people
grab onto that idea
1147
01:04:17,984 --> 01:04:20,813
and react to it, I figured,
"Here's an opportunity
1148
01:04:20,987 --> 01:04:23,903
- to really learn some things."
1149
01:04:26,775 --> 01:04:28,038
Wrinkles: You know, I would
put my phone down
1150
01:04:28,212 --> 01:04:29,822
and walk away for an hour
and come back,
1151
01:04:29,996 --> 01:04:31,955
and there would be, like,
thousands of notifications,
1152
01:04:32,129 --> 01:04:33,782
and my phone was dying
'cause it just couldn't keep up
1153
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,438
with all of the text messages
and voicemails.
1154
01:04:38,787 --> 01:04:40,398
They were calling
with their concerns.
1155
01:04:40,572 --> 01:04:42,052
They were calling
with their hatred.
1156
01:04:42,226 --> 01:04:44,532
They were calling
with their absolute acceptance.
1157
01:04:45,838 --> 01:04:48,014
What does this tell us
about different people
1158
01:04:48,188 --> 01:04:49,276
and how they
process information,
1159
01:04:49,450 --> 01:04:50,712
how they view it on the media,
1160
01:04:51,017 --> 01:04:52,323
how they view it
on social media,
1161
01:04:53,019 --> 01:04:54,760
or just the ideas that they made up in their head
1162
01:04:54,934 --> 01:04:57,284
just seeing a sticker
in a light pole, you know.
1163
01:04:57,458 --> 01:04:59,243
What did their imagination
dream up?
1164
01:05:03,682 --> 01:05:06,511
Jarrett: This one is one
of my top favorites.
1165
01:05:08,121 --> 01:05:11,472
It says "Would you rather
die or die."
1166
01:05:12,125 --> 01:05:13,735
And I thought that would just be
1167
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:15,912
kind of funny and creepy
at the same time.
1168
01:05:21,265 --> 01:05:22,875
Jarrett: So the top of his head.
1169
01:05:33,886 --> 01:05:36,280
Just... Kinda like this.
1170
01:05:38,282 --> 01:05:40,588
Rena: You're trying to make it
not look perfect.
1171
01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:46,072
The end goal is to make yourself
look like a clown.
1172
01:05:47,291 --> 01:05:49,771
Rena: I put on clown makeup
to scare people.
1173
01:05:51,382 --> 01:05:53,253
Then you're just gonna
put in on your nose.
1174
01:06:16,102 --> 01:06:18,931
I need red lipstick.
I'll be right back.
1175
01:06:19,976 --> 01:06:21,586
Sean: Once I found out
about Wrinkles, you know,
1176
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,502
I started having other ideas
for clown videos.
1177
01:06:25,068 --> 01:06:27,592
So we got makeup and then
we just basically
1178
01:06:27,766 --> 01:06:29,202
wanted close stuff
and, like, running
1179
01:06:29,376 --> 01:06:30,464
and, like, trying to scare.
1180
01:06:31,552 --> 01:06:32,945
I feel like my videos
1181
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:34,903
are a reflection
of my personality.
1182
01:06:35,078 --> 01:06:37,602
Like, I don't try to act goofy. I just like to make videos
1183
01:06:37,776 --> 01:06:40,039
that, like, make me happy,
make me laugh.
1184
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:49,701
Found some.
1185
01:06:52,791 --> 01:06:55,011
- Rena: The crazy lady is back.
- The way it started out,
1186
01:06:55,185 --> 01:06:56,751
she would just try
to put on makeup
1187
01:06:56,925 --> 01:06:59,232
'cause everybody else
was putting on makeup.
1188
01:07:00,233 --> 01:07:01,191
But, uh...
1189
01:07:02,105 --> 01:07:04,194
she would make herself
look like a clown.
1190
01:07:04,368 --> 01:07:07,066
I'm like, "You are not going
to town with me
1191
01:07:07,284 --> 01:07:09,242
- looking like a clown."
1192
01:07:09,721 --> 01:07:10,983
You're just gonna take it a lot.
1193
01:07:14,247 --> 01:07:15,553
Sean: When I upload
all my new videos,
1194
01:07:15,727 --> 01:07:17,294
I'm excited.
You know, I'm happy
1195
01:07:17,468 --> 01:07:18,947
that, like,
I've got a video done,
1196
01:07:19,122 --> 01:07:20,732
and that I've edited it.
1197
01:07:21,124 --> 01:07:23,343
I feel like somewhat like
I've accomplished something.
1198
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,433
I do have a goal to become
a filmmaker one day.
1199
01:07:26,868 --> 01:07:27,956
Sean: What's your favorite food?
1200
01:07:28,522 --> 01:07:30,350
Uh, cats.
1201
01:07:34,093 --> 01:07:36,400
Melissa: I always had the mind
of him playing football.
1202
01:07:36,617 --> 01:07:38,315
I had people coming up to me
all the time,
1203
01:07:38,619 --> 01:07:40,491
"He could play for the Cowboys when he gets older."
1204
01:07:40,708 --> 01:07:43,494
The doctor says he's gonna be
6'5'' when he's older.
1205
01:07:43,972 --> 01:07:44,843
And...
1206
01:07:45,713 --> 01:07:46,888
that's just not him.
1207
01:07:47,193 --> 01:07:49,935
This is him. This is what
he likes to do.
1208
01:07:50,936 --> 01:07:55,375
You need to make a big dot
on your face.
1209
01:07:56,028 --> 01:07:57,029
Now, I'm Wrinkles.
1210
01:08:03,253 --> 01:08:04,297
Jarrett: And now
I'll do this too.
1211
01:08:11,696 --> 01:08:13,045
Wrinkles: Have you talked
to this neighbor already
1212
01:08:13,219 --> 01:08:14,699
- or...
- Man: No. They...
1213
01:08:14,873 --> 01:08:16,135
- I don't really know them.
- Wrinkles: Okay.
1214
01:08:16,570 --> 01:08:18,920
Yeah. I mean, this kind of
is a perfect spot.
1215
01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:22,185
There's little bit of cover
and it gives a little, um...
1216
01:08:23,099 --> 01:08:24,622
you know, a little mystery.
And it might make them
1217
01:08:24,796 --> 01:08:26,363
- look a little bit harder.
- Man: Sure. Sure.
1218
01:08:31,150 --> 01:08:32,804
Wrinkles: So the family would be
playing cards here.
1219
01:08:33,326 --> 01:08:35,937
Sitting here, having one
or two kids just right there.
1220
01:08:36,677 --> 01:08:37,896
Wrinkles: Maybe you're like...
you're filming
1221
01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:39,854
and you kind of zoom in,
you know.
1222
01:08:40,028 --> 01:08:42,248
You just zoom in a little bit,
and you're like, "Oh, my God.
1223
01:08:42,422 --> 01:08:44,685
What the fuck is that,"
you know? Like, "Holy shit."
1224
01:08:45,033 --> 01:08:47,384
The less you say, the better.
Let them be the ones
1225
01:08:47,558 --> 01:08:49,342
that react, but you'll
still be recording,
1226
01:08:49,516 --> 01:08:51,127
but you're gonna be
running as well.
1227
01:08:51,344 --> 01:08:53,694
They'll see floor, ceiling,
floor, ceiling, floor, ceiling.
1228
01:08:53,868 --> 01:08:55,479
- Man: With the camera?
- Wrinkles: With the camera.
1229
01:08:55,653 --> 01:08:57,959
And maybe you drop the phone
in the hallway,
1230
01:08:58,134 --> 01:09:00,179
and you, you know, you let...
1231
01:09:00,397 --> 01:09:02,050
Then we're gonna pick up
all the audio
1232
01:09:02,225 --> 01:09:04,227
- of the genuine reaction.
- Oh, how great would it be...
1233
01:09:04,401 --> 01:09:06,054
- Screaming.
- Man: ...if she drops it.
1234
01:09:06,272 --> 01:09:07,621
Wrinkles: Yeah.
Then I could come in...
1235
01:09:08,535 --> 01:09:10,972
Wrinkles could come in,
see the phone,
1236
01:09:11,538 --> 01:09:14,019
bend down, pick it up,
end of video.
1237
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,244
Do you wanna get some pizza
later on?
1238
01:09:21,853 --> 01:09:23,028
That's gonna be the code.
1239
01:09:23,246 --> 01:09:24,377
Woman: Do you guys wanna
go get pizza?
1240
01:09:24,551 --> 01:09:25,596
- Yeah.
- Man: You wanna get something?
1241
01:09:25,987 --> 01:09:27,424
That's when you know
that he's here.
1242
01:09:27,598 --> 01:09:28,947
He just texted here.
1243
01:09:29,121 --> 01:09:31,167
Wrinkles: When my timer goes off
on my phone,
1244
01:09:31,602 --> 01:09:33,691
then I know I'm gonna start
doing the peek around.
1245
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:35,214
The peek around.
1246
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,087
Did anyone see that?
What's outside?
1247
01:09:40,350 --> 01:09:41,786
I swear there's
something outside.
1248
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,527
- Man: What the fuck?
1249
01:09:51,970 --> 01:09:53,450
Wrinkles: I'll come in.
I'll grab the phone.
1250
01:09:53,754 --> 01:09:54,973
I'll hit stop.
1251
01:09:56,409 --> 01:09:58,890
Man: Jesus Christ.
1252
01:09:59,586 --> 01:10:01,458
Wrinkles: And then
after that happens,
1253
01:10:02,198 --> 01:10:03,199
- I'm booking it.
- Man: Yeah.
1254
01:10:03,416 --> 01:10:04,374
I'm out of here.
1255
01:10:16,821 --> 01:10:17,996
- Wrinkles:
1256
01:10:18,170 --> 01:10:19,563
You guys heard those screams,
right?
1257
01:10:19,737 --> 01:10:21,347
- Man: Yes.
- Wrinkles: Holy fucking shit.
1258
01:10:21,521 --> 01:10:24,045
One girl came back
to see if, like...
1259
01:10:24,263 --> 01:10:25,960
Everyone else had ran.
I don't know who it was,
1260
01:10:26,134 --> 01:10:27,353
but the one that came back,
1261
01:10:27,614 --> 01:10:29,486
I think she saw me,
like, on the porch
1262
01:10:29,660 --> 01:10:31,314
and she fucking lost her mind.
1263
01:10:32,532 --> 01:10:34,621
Holy shit. There's fucking cops
all over this neighborhood.
1264
01:10:43,717 --> 01:10:45,241
Wrinkles: I think on this one,
I'm gonna cut it off.
1265
01:10:47,068 --> 01:10:49,680
- Let's see.
1266
01:10:54,859 --> 01:10:56,600
Wrinkles: I kinda love
the abruptness of that.
1267
01:10:57,644 --> 01:10:58,993
You know, with that, it kind of
1268
01:10:59,385 --> 01:11:00,908
leaves more to the imagination.
Like, "What the hell?
1269
01:11:01,126 --> 01:11:02,606
What happened after that?
What... You know,
1270
01:11:02,780 --> 01:11:04,869
did Wrinkles get 'em?
Did they get away?
1271
01:11:05,043 --> 01:11:08,264
Did they call the cops?
Did they..." you know, whatever.
1272
01:11:14,052 --> 01:11:15,358
Wrinkles: I don't think
anything I do
1273
01:11:15,532 --> 01:11:17,969
after the Wrinkles project
is going to have
1274
01:11:18,143 --> 01:11:19,492
as big of an impact.
1275
01:11:20,624 --> 01:11:22,495
But sometimes
you surprise yourself.
1276
01:11:25,019 --> 01:11:28,806
Maybe this is just a gateway
into something bigger.
1277
01:11:30,721 --> 01:11:32,026
- Yeah.
- Man: You wanna get something?
1278
01:11:32,418 --> 01:11:36,161
- Man: The fuck is that?
1279
01:11:36,509 --> 01:11:37,902
Benjamin: I think there is
an element
1280
01:11:38,206 --> 01:11:41,427
of internet troll to Wrinkles.
He's provocative, right?
1281
01:11:41,601 --> 01:11:43,342
He's trying to get
a reaction out of you.
1282
01:11:43,603 --> 01:11:45,388
Maybe it's screaming
with laughter,
1283
01:11:45,562 --> 01:11:46,824
maybe it's terror,
1284
01:11:47,215 --> 01:11:49,000
maybe it's calling
his phone number. Who knows?
1285
01:11:49,174 --> 01:11:51,611
By calling him, you're
essentially inviting him in
1286
01:11:51,829 --> 01:11:53,309
into your life.
1287
01:11:53,700 --> 01:11:55,441
Testing those boundaries
is a part of growing up.
1288
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,444
Boy: I'm gonna be calling
a killer clown.
1289
01:11:58,618 --> 01:12:00,490
Apparently, his name
is Wrinkles.
1290
01:12:01,317 --> 01:12:03,841
Boy: Uh, I got this number
a hundred percent real
1291
01:12:04,015 --> 01:12:05,233
off the Internet.
1292
01:12:05,451 --> 01:12:06,931
Jarrett: I think people
just wanna see
1293
01:12:07,105 --> 01:12:09,934
what would happen
if they call the clown.
1294
01:12:10,456 --> 01:12:11,805
- Like...
1295
01:12:12,284 --> 01:12:13,720
maybe he would come
to their house or something.
1296
01:12:13,938 --> 01:12:16,288
They just wanna see
what could happen.
1297
01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:18,595
Oh, dang.
1298
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,293
I think the creepiest part
is when he grabs the camera
1299
01:12:21,728 --> 01:12:23,251
and, like, it just goes out.
Like...
1300
01:12:23,774 --> 01:12:26,907
I think if the girl woke up,
it would be complete madness
1301
01:12:27,081 --> 01:12:29,736
and, like, she would start
screaming bloody murder.
1302
01:12:32,739 --> 01:12:33,958
He don't have any eyeballs.
1303
01:12:36,221 --> 01:12:37,353
How does he see?
1304
01:12:49,365 --> 01:12:51,323
Wrinkles: I do parties,
children behavioral services,
1305
01:12:51,497 --> 01:12:52,846
the whole shebang, you know,
give me a call.
1306
01:12:53,281 --> 01:12:54,761
Man: Are you the real one
that gets hired
1307
01:12:55,153 --> 01:12:56,459
to scare the shit out of kids?
1308
01:12:56,676 --> 01:12:57,808
Wrinkles: Yeah.
Wrinkles the Clown.
1309
01:12:57,982 --> 01:12:59,331
- You heard of me?
- Man: Yeah.
1310
01:12:59,766 --> 01:13:01,420
Wrinkles: You know, maybe
the negative parts
1311
01:13:01,594 --> 01:13:04,728
of Wrinkles will die off
and maybe the fun parts
1312
01:13:04,945 --> 01:13:07,165
- of Wrinkles will live on.
- Boy 1: Oh, my God.
1313
01:13:07,992 --> 01:13:10,211
- Boy 2: His name is Wrinkles.
- Wrinkles: Sweet dreams.
1314
01:13:10,864 --> 01:13:12,692
Wrinkles: As many people
that hate Wrinkles
1315
01:13:12,997 --> 01:13:15,826
and hope he dies a slow,
horrible death,
1316
01:13:16,435 --> 01:13:18,176
there's a lot of people
out there that love Wrinkles
1317
01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:19,743
and they love the character
1318
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,658
and they like the funny parts about him
1319
01:13:21,875 --> 01:13:24,095
and they like the cynical parts that they can relate to.
1320
01:13:24,269 --> 01:13:27,228
Girl 1: I love you, Wrinkles,
so much.
1321
01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:30,406
Girl 2: I think you're
the number one clown.
1322
01:13:30,710 --> 01:13:34,453
Girls: We love you. We love you.
We love you. We love you.
1323
01:13:34,627 --> 01:13:36,020
Girl 3: You're my role model.
1324
01:13:36,716 --> 01:13:39,327
Boy 1: I can laugh like you,
listen.
1325
01:13:40,154 --> 01:13:41,765
- Girl 4: Wrinkles!
- Wrinkles: What're you doing?
1326
01:13:41,939 --> 01:13:43,157
Girl 5: What're you doing?
Girl 6: High five, again.
1327
01:13:44,071 --> 01:13:45,508
- Wrinkles: High five?
- Girl 6: High five again.
1328
01:13:45,682 --> 01:13:46,770
- Boy 2: Please.
- Girl 7: High five. Thank you.
1329
01:13:46,944 --> 01:13:48,075
Boy 2: Oh, my God.
You're so cute.
1330
01:13:48,336 --> 01:13:49,642
Wrinkles: Oh, God. I can't see.
1331
01:13:49,816 --> 01:13:51,557
There's too many high fives
going on here.
1332
01:13:51,775 --> 01:13:54,081
- One, two, three. Wrinkles.
- Boy: Wrinkles.
1333
01:14:03,874 --> 01:14:07,051
Wrinkles: Our individual minds
are such humongous places.
1334
01:14:07,225 --> 01:14:10,707
And the places that you can go, it can be some of the darkest,
1335
01:14:10,881 --> 01:14:14,275
deepest depths of just
awful terribleness
1336
01:14:14,493 --> 01:14:15,712
to some of
the most enlightening
1337
01:14:15,886 --> 01:14:17,365
most beautiful places.
1338
01:14:17,888 --> 01:14:21,587
It's just interesting to see
where people decide to go
1339
01:14:21,761 --> 01:14:23,633
in their mind because,
at the end of the day,
1340
01:14:23,807 --> 01:14:25,330
they're the ones
1341
01:14:25,504 --> 01:14:26,984
that are taking
this very small information
1342
01:14:27,158 --> 01:14:28,507
they know about
Wrinkles The Clown,
1343
01:14:28,725 --> 01:14:30,204
and decided which way
to take it.
1344
01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:31,641
Boy: I saw your YouTube video.
1345
01:14:31,815 --> 01:14:33,251
Wrinkles: I don't have
a YouTube video.
1346
01:14:33,556 --> 01:14:34,470
- What are you talking about?
- Boy: Yeah, right.
1347
01:14:49,528 --> 01:14:50,747
- Wrinkles: Come on.
- Boy 1: All right.
1348
01:14:51,487 --> 01:14:52,575
All right. Last picture
of the night.
1349
01:14:52,749 --> 01:14:54,098
Wrinkles gotta go
to the bathroom.
1350
01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:55,403
Boy 2: Come on.
1351
01:18:03,243 --> 01:18:04,070
Man: What?
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