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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:37,689 --> 00:00:41,345 Ken: You've got people who see something. 2 00:00:47,308 --> 00:00:51,660 It can create instantaneous ramping 3 00:00:51,834 --> 00:00:54,097 of fear, frenzy, concern, in a community. 4 00:00:59,537 --> 00:01:02,801 You typically would see that kind of situation 5 00:01:02,975 --> 00:01:05,543 around serial rape, serial murders. 6 00:01:11,375 --> 00:01:15,684 I can tell you that it creates grave concerns on our part 7 00:01:15,945 --> 00:01:18,774 because what we don't want is people to be 8 00:01:19,035 --> 00:01:22,691 subsequently injured in an assault, or murdered. 9 00:01:28,523 --> 00:01:30,786 Where somebody claims that they felt threatened, 10 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:33,136 or this frenzy just kinda takes over 11 00:01:33,354 --> 00:01:34,833 and people start behaving in ways 12 00:01:35,007 --> 00:01:37,314 that they would not otherwise behave. 13 00:04:12,469 --> 00:04:13,818 Boy 1: Oh, my God. 14 00:04:14,079 --> 00:04:15,820 I didn't know this was really real. 15 00:04:15,994 --> 00:04:17,561 Boy 2: Then why did you hide under that girl's bed 16 00:04:17,779 --> 00:04:19,128 that one time? 17 00:04:19,302 --> 00:04:20,695 Boy 1: I know you really don't kill, 18 00:04:20,869 --> 00:04:22,566 you just show up at people's houses. 19 00:04:22,740 --> 00:04:25,743 Reporter: Hi, Wrinkles. This is NBC 2 in Fort Myers. 20 00:04:25,917 --> 00:04:28,355 We're just seeing your story really blow up online. 21 00:04:33,751 --> 00:04:36,058 Anchor: Meet Southwest Florida's Wrinkles the Clown. 22 00:04:36,232 --> 00:04:38,103 A creepy clown named Wrinkles 23 00:04:38,278 --> 00:04:40,889 offered to terrorize naughty children for cash. 24 00:04:41,281 --> 00:04:44,109 Woman: Hi, I have a child that's misbehaving pretty bad. 25 00:04:44,284 --> 00:04:46,068 If you give me a call back at... 26 00:04:46,242 --> 00:04:48,592 Reporter: You can't miss his red and white polka dot suit. 27 00:04:48,766 --> 00:04:49,985 Reporter: Hi, Wrinkles, I'm a reporter 28 00:04:50,159 --> 00:04:51,291 at the Washington Post. 29 00:04:51,465 --> 00:04:53,162 I was hoping to interview you 30 00:04:53,336 --> 00:04:56,426 for a story about your, uh... your amazingness. 31 00:04:56,644 --> 00:04:59,255 I found this guy named Wrinkles the Clown. 32 00:04:59,429 --> 00:05:02,432 And he's a guy on Craigslist who you can call, 33 00:05:02,606 --> 00:05:04,739 and apparently, he'll come to your address 34 00:05:04,913 --> 00:05:06,175 and scare children. 35 00:05:06,349 --> 00:05:07,263 He makes me think I'm going to die. 36 00:05:09,309 --> 00:05:10,614 Wrinkles: Hello, you've reached Wrinkles the Clown. 37 00:05:10,832 --> 00:05:12,747 No, I'm not here to take your call. 38 00:05:12,964 --> 00:05:14,531 Leave me a message and I'll call you back. 39 00:05:19,449 --> 00:05:20,363 Reporter: Wrinkles, I'm a reporter 40 00:05:20,537 --> 00:05:22,147 at the Naples Daily News. 41 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:23,235 Woman 1: You're scaring little people 42 00:05:23,410 --> 00:05:24,889 that can't defend themselves. 43 00:05:25,063 --> 00:05:26,456 Woman 2: Could have been a child molester. 44 00:05:26,630 --> 00:05:27,501 Boy: I've never seen you in real life, 45 00:05:27,675 --> 00:05:29,590 but I love your YouTube videos. 46 00:05:30,199 --> 00:05:32,636 I'm so excited to leave this message for you. 47 00:05:32,810 --> 00:05:34,377 Please call me back. 48 00:05:34,812 --> 00:05:37,206 Reporter: Wrinkles is easily and often spotted around town. 49 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:38,903 Here he is in Downtown Fort Myers 50 00:05:39,077 --> 00:05:40,383 and it's the Collier County fair. 51 00:05:41,906 --> 00:05:43,343 Journalist: Hey, Wrinkles. 52 00:05:43,821 --> 00:05:45,345 Was writing a story about you and I was interested in that 53 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:47,085 thing you had with that little girl 54 00:05:47,303 --> 00:05:48,870 that was on YouTube. 55 00:05:49,044 --> 00:05:50,350 Reporter: If you haven't seen this video, 56 00:05:50,524 --> 00:05:51,916 good luck going to sleep tonight. 57 00:05:52,177 --> 00:05:55,703 - I mean, seriously. 58 00:05:55,877 --> 00:06:00,316 He was lurking under the bed of a sleeping little girl. 59 00:06:00,490 --> 00:06:01,752 He goes by Wrinkles, but you may know him 60 00:06:01,926 --> 00:06:03,406 by his other name, Person of Interest. 61 00:06:03,667 --> 00:06:05,365 - uh... 62 00:06:05,582 --> 00:06:07,497 Woman: I'm calling from CAA which is a talent agency 63 00:06:07,671 --> 00:06:10,195 - in Los Angeles. - Woman: Oh, my God. Oh, my God! 64 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:12,763 Boy: Hey Wrinkles, are you hiding in my friend's backyard, 65 00:06:12,937 --> 00:06:14,417 because we saw a clown that looks exactly like you. 66 00:06:14,591 --> 00:06:15,853 This is the County Sheriff's Department. 67 00:06:16,332 --> 00:06:17,855 I just wanted to call you to verify 68 00:06:18,029 --> 00:06:19,770 that you're not allowed out on Halloween night. 69 00:06:19,944 --> 00:06:21,729 If you are found or seen by any kids, 70 00:06:21,946 --> 00:06:23,470 - you'll be arrested on site.- 71 00:06:26,603 --> 00:06:28,039 Christopher: Is that Wrinkles the Clown? 72 00:06:28,910 --> 00:06:29,954 - No! 73 00:06:30,128 --> 00:06:31,391 Let me take a picture with him. 74 00:06:32,653 --> 00:06:33,610 Come on, man. 75 00:06:40,835 --> 00:06:42,314 Dude, he's a legend. 76 00:06:43,141 --> 00:06:44,229 What the fuck? 77 00:06:44,621 --> 00:06:46,797 Wrinkles walks by and the whole thing. 78 00:06:47,842 --> 00:06:50,497 What I saw was like a little flyer or pamphlet on a post 79 00:06:50,671 --> 00:06:52,237 and I was walking home from work one day, 80 00:06:52,542 --> 00:06:53,978 and it had him, and his name, and his number, and I was like, 81 00:06:54,152 --> 00:06:55,806 "Dude, I'm gonna try to call this, you know, 82 00:06:56,024 --> 00:06:57,547 phone number, get ahold of him," it goes right to his voicemail. 83 00:06:57,721 --> 00:06:59,114 I'm like... so I call him over and over again, 84 00:06:59,288 --> 00:07:01,029 he finally picked up. It was the coolest thing 85 00:07:01,246 --> 00:07:02,857 'cause it was, you know, actually him saying, 86 00:07:03,031 --> 00:07:04,815 - "Hey, what's going on?" - I love what he's doing. 87 00:07:05,033 --> 00:07:08,863 It brings a spark, an energy, to the neighborhood. 88 00:07:09,167 --> 00:07:10,821 And... ...how many times 89 00:07:10,995 --> 00:07:13,433 do we bring it up to people alone, you know? 90 00:07:13,607 --> 00:07:17,001 Just be afraid of this. You can't be afraid of Jason. 91 00:07:17,175 --> 00:07:18,568 - It's fiction. 92 00:07:18,742 --> 00:07:20,962 You can't be afraid of, you know, that Carrie, 93 00:07:21,179 --> 00:07:22,746 but you better be afraid of Wrinkles. 94 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,095 - He's real. - Peter: Wrinkles, it's like... 95 00:07:24,269 --> 00:07:25,836 That's been awesome. He's real. 96 00:07:31,276 --> 00:07:33,191 Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached Wrinkles the Clown. 97 00:07:33,365 --> 00:07:36,107 I'm not here to take your call. Leave me a message 98 00:07:36,281 --> 00:07:38,675 and I'll call ya back. 99 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:41,939 Man: Wrinkles, this is Jack's father. 100 00:07:42,113 --> 00:07:43,332 - Man: You got to see me. 101 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,421 - He's been acting up. 102 00:07:47,902 --> 00:07:49,469 - Girl: Daddy. - Man: If they don't stop 103 00:07:49,643 --> 00:07:51,253 acting up, I'm gonna give you my address 104 00:07:51,427 --> 00:07:52,907 to come and get these little motherfuckers. 105 00:07:53,081 --> 00:07:54,299 Girl: No! 106 00:07:54,778 --> 00:07:55,344 Man: Do you wanna see what he looks like? 107 00:07:55,518 --> 00:07:56,737 Girl: No. 108 00:07:56,954 --> 00:07:58,390 Man: Look, this is what he look like. 109 00:07:58,652 --> 00:08:01,089 - Girl: No! - Girl 2: Sorry. I'm sorry. 110 00:08:01,306 --> 00:08:03,918 Woman 1: My kids' names are Angelina and Mia. 111 00:08:04,092 --> 00:08:05,746 Please just calm down, Mia. 112 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,443 Woman 2: He says he needs the TV. 113 00:08:07,617 --> 00:08:09,532 He thinks he'll come out this motherfuckin' TV. 114 00:08:09,750 --> 00:08:12,753 Hey, um, Wrinkle, I need you to come get these badass kids 115 00:08:12,927 --> 00:08:16,060 - like I'm... - Boy: No! 116 00:08:32,033 --> 00:08:33,121 Man on TV: Oh, it's fine. 117 00:08:34,905 --> 00:08:36,037 He's been like a madman. 118 00:08:37,038 --> 00:08:38,996 Personal vengeance and shame they are. 119 00:08:39,997 --> 00:08:42,173 However, uh, did you have much trouble getting here? 120 00:08:49,311 --> 00:08:51,487 Man on TV: Just hold your breath. If it is right... 121 00:08:56,274 --> 00:08:57,624 Wrinkles: You know, uh, I'll probably never 122 00:08:57,798 --> 00:08:59,800 unmask myself. I don't wanna be hassled. 123 00:08:59,974 --> 00:09:01,410 I get hassled enough with the phone calls, 124 00:09:01,628 --> 00:09:02,672 things like that. 125 00:09:03,325 --> 00:09:04,892 I don't need kids recognizing me on the street, you know. 126 00:09:05,109 --> 00:09:06,981 I'm not going to talk you in my real voice either. 127 00:09:07,155 --> 00:09:08,504 You want Wrinkles, you're gonna get Wrinkles, 128 00:09:08,678 --> 00:09:09,592 you know, including the voice. 129 00:09:12,247 --> 00:09:13,683 Man on TV: ...but we'll not attack again, 130 00:09:14,249 --> 00:09:15,642 unless there's... 131 00:09:16,077 --> 00:09:17,731 - Woman on TV: You're not. - Wrinkles: I get... 132 00:09:17,905 --> 00:09:19,428 I get hundreds and hundreds of voicemails a day. 133 00:09:19,602 --> 00:09:21,256 The whole viral thing for me is, uh... 134 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:22,953 It's kind of a pain in the ass. 135 00:09:23,127 --> 00:09:24,433 Everybody and their fucking grandmother 136 00:09:24,607 --> 00:09:27,262 has my phone number. Jesus Christ. 137 00:09:27,436 --> 00:09:30,221 Uh, I get moms and dads that call and ask whose number 138 00:09:30,439 --> 00:09:33,573 this is 'cause they see the number in the kids' phone, 139 00:09:33,747 --> 00:09:35,662 and they wanna know who it is, you know. 140 00:09:35,836 --> 00:09:37,794 Uh, you get kids that call and are like, 141 00:09:38,055 --> 00:09:40,144 "Hey, we love you, Wrinkles" and all that good stuff. 142 00:09:40,318 --> 00:09:42,669 Then you got your legit parents out there that really are 143 00:09:42,886 --> 00:09:45,019 looking for some, uh, behavioral services. 144 00:09:47,456 --> 00:09:48,979 Wrinkles: My favorite kind of scares are the ones 145 00:09:49,284 --> 00:09:50,502 that pay the most. 146 00:09:51,155 --> 00:09:53,331 You know, I'll show up outside in the backyard, you know, 147 00:09:53,505 --> 00:09:55,899 maybe give a knock on the window and, you know, make sure 148 00:09:56,073 --> 00:09:58,336 they see me and give them a wave, but, you know, 149 00:09:58,510 --> 00:10:00,512 I'm not wielding, uh, knives and machetes, 150 00:10:00,687 --> 00:10:03,864 and things like that. I give the parents my sticker, 151 00:10:04,038 --> 00:10:06,170 I say, "Oh, you put the sticker up here in the fridge." 152 00:10:06,475 --> 00:10:07,998 Maybe tell them, "Hey, 153 00:10:08,172 --> 00:10:09,783 you misbehave again, Wrinkles is gonna come back. 154 00:10:09,957 --> 00:10:11,045 There's his phone number right now, 155 00:10:11,219 --> 00:10:12,263 I'll call him right now." 156 00:10:13,613 --> 00:10:15,571 Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached Wrinkles the Clown. 157 00:10:15,876 --> 00:10:17,312 Leave me a message and I'll call ya back. 158 00:10:19,531 --> 00:10:20,837 Girl: No, Daddy. 159 00:10:21,011 --> 00:10:23,492 - Man: Hello, Wrinkles? - Girl: No. No! 160 00:10:23,666 --> 00:10:25,233 Man: I'm... Let me call you back. 161 00:10:25,494 --> 00:10:26,277 I'mma call you back because I think she's trying 162 00:10:26,451 --> 00:10:27,496 to act right now. 163 00:10:28,192 --> 00:10:29,585 But if she doesn't act right, I'll give you... 164 00:10:29,977 --> 00:10:30,804 Antonio: Hey, Wrinkles, just calling to let you know 165 00:10:30,978 --> 00:10:32,327 Kaila being bad in the store. 166 00:10:32,719 --> 00:10:34,982 She's running around and everything. Yeah. 167 00:10:37,245 --> 00:10:38,899 Antonio: Okay. I want you to come get her for a minute 168 00:10:39,116 --> 00:10:41,031 or do something 'cause she's being bad. 169 00:10:41,336 --> 00:10:43,860 There you go. Hang on. You got it? 170 00:10:44,034 --> 00:10:45,166 And I want you to eat her. 171 00:10:45,470 --> 00:10:47,081 - Kaila? - Hmm? 172 00:10:47,255 --> 00:10:49,605 Antonio: Can you tell me, um, tell me what Wrinkle... 173 00:10:49,779 --> 00:10:51,433 how Wrinkle the Clown sound to you? 174 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,176 He was like, "Oh, Kaila, 175 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:57,918 I'm gonna eat you if you'll be bad." 176 00:11:00,311 --> 00:11:01,399 Antonio: Oh, I bring... you want me to bring you 177 00:11:01,573 --> 00:11:02,836 to her when I see you? 178 00:11:03,837 --> 00:11:04,707 All right. 179 00:11:05,621 --> 00:11:07,362 Yeah. 'Cause she's being bad, Wrinkles. 180 00:11:08,232 --> 00:11:09,277 Yeah. 181 00:11:11,018 --> 00:11:12,759 There you go. Good job. 182 00:11:13,585 --> 00:11:16,632 I'm scared of Wrinkles the Clown. He come to my house 183 00:11:16,850 --> 00:11:19,853 and scare me at night if I be asleep. 184 00:11:20,027 --> 00:11:21,332 Antonio: Oh, yeah? But what if you're good? 185 00:11:21,506 --> 00:11:24,379 - What happens? - He don't come and visit me 186 00:11:24,553 --> 00:11:27,077 if I be bad... if I be good. 187 00:11:27,295 --> 00:11:28,862 Antonio: If you're good, he doesn't come to visit? 188 00:11:29,601 --> 00:11:30,777 Oh, okay. 189 00:11:31,908 --> 00:11:33,780 I don't see that that's child abuse. 190 00:11:34,432 --> 00:11:35,912 They're gonna try and push the limit 191 00:11:36,130 --> 00:11:38,610 the older that they get and so that's basically 192 00:11:38,785 --> 00:11:42,092 just a boundary saying, um, you can go this far, 193 00:11:42,266 --> 00:11:43,746 just don't cross that line. 194 00:11:44,007 --> 00:11:48,533 They said they're gonna eat me and they said, "no." 195 00:11:48,751 --> 00:11:50,187 Antonio: Oh, okay. 196 00:11:52,537 --> 00:11:55,323 I think he did it to actually become some type 197 00:11:55,497 --> 00:11:58,021 of contributor to society, giving parents another way 198 00:11:58,456 --> 00:12:02,199 to discipline the kid and bring them in line early. 199 00:12:06,203 --> 00:12:07,639 Dean: "Skype can't connect to your webcam." 200 00:12:07,814 --> 00:12:09,467 I don't have a webcam. 201 00:12:09,641 --> 00:12:11,295 Hey, Dad, I'm doing the interview right now. 202 00:12:12,644 --> 00:12:14,124 I'm doing the interview right now. 203 00:12:14,385 --> 00:12:16,561 Yeah, I could see where people would hire Wrinkles, 204 00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:18,694 especially if their children are being naughty. 205 00:12:18,868 --> 00:12:20,914 I'm not naughty, you're scaring me. 206 00:12:22,829 --> 00:12:26,267 I would definitely hire Wrinkles to scare somebody 207 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,444 because I'm a terrible person, man. 208 00:12:29,618 --> 00:12:31,968 I know where the gun is, okay? And I will... 209 00:12:32,447 --> 00:12:35,319 If he shows up to my room at 3:00 a.m... 210 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:37,060 Eadie, you're gonna get me arrested here. 211 00:12:37,234 --> 00:12:38,888 He went in the bathroom, he got toilet paper. 212 00:12:39,106 --> 00:12:41,935 He was just throwing it all around the house 213 00:12:42,109 --> 00:12:43,240 so I called the number. 214 00:12:43,588 --> 00:12:46,896 And Wrink... The voicemail picked up again, 215 00:12:47,157 --> 00:12:49,899 and when we heard the laugh, he lost his mind. 216 00:12:50,291 --> 00:12:51,988 I promise, he lost his mind. 217 00:12:52,293 --> 00:12:54,861 He just started crying and he... I promise he didn't move 218 00:12:55,035 --> 00:12:57,602 for about, I think, like, two hours. 219 00:12:57,777 --> 00:12:59,256 He didn't move for, like, two hours. 220 00:13:01,041 --> 00:13:01,998 Antonio: Okay. 221 00:13:03,478 --> 00:13:04,566 Antonio: Hey, Wrinkles the Clown. 222 00:13:04,784 --> 00:13:06,350 Kaila: Stop. 223 00:13:06,568 --> 00:13:08,309 - Antonio: Kaila's being bad. 224 00:13:08,483 --> 00:13:10,311 I need you to come get her 'cause she's being bad. 225 00:13:12,487 --> 00:13:15,011 - Kaila: Stop calling him. - Antonio: Don't be bad then. 226 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:21,104 Woman: Hi, Wrinkles, there's this very bad child... 227 00:13:21,322 --> 00:13:23,193 - ...Jordan, 228 00:13:23,367 --> 00:13:24,629 and I was just wondering if you could give me 229 00:13:24,804 --> 00:13:25,674 a call back. 230 00:13:26,893 --> 00:13:28,895 You hear this? This is Wrinkles. 231 00:13:31,332 --> 00:13:33,682 - So misguided. 232 00:13:34,335 --> 00:13:36,728 My name is George Holden. I'm a professor 233 00:13:36,903 --> 00:13:40,167 and Chair of Psychology at Southern Methodist University 234 00:13:40,645 --> 00:13:42,517 and I'm a developmental psychologist. 235 00:13:42,691 --> 00:13:46,608 I study parent-child relationships, family violence, 236 00:13:46,782 --> 00:13:48,392 parents' use of discipline. 237 00:13:49,002 --> 00:13:53,702 This idea of calling Wrinkles the Clown is really misguided. 238 00:13:53,876 --> 00:13:56,270 If it's done frequently enough, it's... 239 00:13:56,444 --> 00:13:58,620 If it's a pattern of behavior, in this case, 240 00:13:58,794 --> 00:14:00,622 we're talking about terrorizing a child, 241 00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:02,015 that is... 242 00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:06,367 currently accepted as one manifestation 243 00:14:06,541 --> 00:14:09,936 of psychological maltreatment, which is a form of child abuse. 244 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:14,766 I found out about Wrinkles the Clown through a news story. 245 00:14:14,984 --> 00:14:17,769 To me, it's sad that he couldn't come up with 246 00:14:17,944 --> 00:14:21,034 a more positive approach. 247 00:14:21,338 --> 00:14:24,167 He doesn't actually have to travel into a home 248 00:14:24,341 --> 00:14:26,778 but that threat can still be, at least for kids, 249 00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:29,129 as powerful as the real thing. 250 00:14:29,607 --> 00:14:32,828 Antonio: Oh, so you're hyper now, Mrs. Want to, um... 251 00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:34,917 - ...play with the ducks. 252 00:14:37,659 --> 00:14:39,052 Antonio: Oh, they running over here. 253 00:14:39,617 --> 00:14:41,793 - Here I come with some food! - Antonio: Throw it in there. 254 00:14:46,233 --> 00:14:47,712 Antonio: I definitely would use Wrinkles 255 00:14:47,887 --> 00:14:50,411 one hundred percent of the time over spankings. 256 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:53,501 Spankings, uh... That kind of leaves a mark... 257 00:14:53,718 --> 00:14:56,373 ...you know, and so the phone, um, 258 00:14:56,547 --> 00:14:59,768 it's a voice. And it kinda leaves the, um, 259 00:14:59,942 --> 00:15:03,424 scary option of, "if I'm bad, then I gotta hear this voice," 260 00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:05,687 and she doesn't wanna hear the voice. 261 00:15:13,738 --> 00:15:15,915 Wrinkles: When I was a kid, you got the fucking belt. 262 00:15:16,089 --> 00:15:17,568 You know, my dad was old school. 263 00:15:17,829 --> 00:15:19,353 He would go hard on you, you know? 264 00:15:19,527 --> 00:15:20,745 He cared about us and he didn't want us 265 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,356 to get in trouble, so... 266 00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:24,314 Now, it's like, you know, you can't hit your kids, 267 00:15:24,488 --> 00:15:26,186 you can't do this, you'll go to jail. 268 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,102 So, you know, they're using psychological warfare, 269 00:15:29,276 --> 00:15:31,669 things like that, you know? They're using what's available. 270 00:15:31,887 --> 00:15:34,455 And is that as harmful as spanking your kid 271 00:15:34,629 --> 00:15:35,804 with a belt, you know? I don't know. 272 00:15:35,978 --> 00:15:37,458 It's up to you, you're the parent. 273 00:15:41,984 --> 00:15:43,116 Wrinkles: I've been asked before 274 00:15:43,290 --> 00:15:45,553 if I feel guilty about the parents 275 00:15:45,727 --> 00:15:47,642 that wanna use me for behavioral services. 276 00:15:47,816 --> 00:15:50,340 You know, that's a contract between me and mom and dad. 277 00:15:50,514 --> 00:15:53,300 That's nobody else's business, so you got a problem with it, 278 00:15:53,474 --> 00:15:54,779 you can take it up with mom and dad, 279 00:15:54,954 --> 00:15:56,259 'cause I'm just doing my job. 280 00:16:29,249 --> 00:16:31,381 Girl: Why are you stalking little kids? 281 00:16:36,821 --> 00:16:38,475 Jarrett: Oh, here. I have an idea. 282 00:16:41,261 --> 00:16:42,523 Is this good? 283 00:16:42,871 --> 00:16:45,961 Um, what I wanna do when I'm older is 284 00:16:46,135 --> 00:16:50,009 I wanna be a professional animal trainer. 285 00:16:51,053 --> 00:16:54,404 So, this is my dog Schnitzel. He is a schnauzer mix. 286 00:16:54,578 --> 00:16:57,494 And then this is my mom's dog, Gracey. 287 00:16:58,147 --> 00:17:01,498 Her owners died and no one really knows how, 288 00:17:01,672 --> 00:17:03,674 not even, like, police or anything. 289 00:17:10,116 --> 00:17:13,467 Jarrett: Okay. So, I just wanted to try to call clowns 290 00:17:13,641 --> 00:17:15,164 just to see, like, what would happen 291 00:17:15,338 --> 00:17:16,774 and I didn't get in trouble for it 292 00:17:16,948 --> 00:17:18,428 but my parents were like, 293 00:17:18,689 --> 00:17:20,430 "Why are you calling a clown?" and I was, like, 294 00:17:20,604 --> 00:17:22,476 "Well, Wrinkles sounds more real 295 00:17:22,650 --> 00:17:24,043 than what I've seen on YouTube." 296 00:17:24,913 --> 00:17:28,003 I was like, "Don't be looking up numbers online, 297 00:17:28,482 --> 00:17:31,354 don't be calling random people. 298 00:17:31,528 --> 00:17:33,878 Don't... You don't even know if this is... 299 00:17:34,488 --> 00:17:36,707 Access to this stuff is scary 300 00:17:36,881 --> 00:17:38,274 'cause you don't know what they're getting into. 301 00:17:38,448 --> 00:17:40,146 You try to keep an eye on it and try to... 302 00:17:40,624 --> 00:17:42,713 But you can't govern all of it 303 00:17:42,931 --> 00:17:45,151 and so you just kinda have to hope that you've... 304 00:17:45,412 --> 00:17:46,935 you know, that they have a good sense 305 00:17:47,109 --> 00:17:49,459 of what's good and not. 306 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,767 And yet you got children who otherwise wouldn't even care 307 00:17:52,941 --> 00:17:55,030 about clowns except now scary clowns are cool 308 00:17:55,204 --> 00:17:59,252 and so he goes clown crazy sometimes. 309 00:17:59,426 --> 00:18:01,080 Jarrett: Hey, Wrinkles, 310 00:18:01,341 --> 00:18:03,517 I love clowns, I love everything. 311 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:07,260 Clowns inspire me. Um, call me back, 312 00:18:07,434 --> 00:18:09,392 leave me a message, text me, anything. 313 00:18:09,653 --> 00:18:11,264 I'm making a YouTube video. 314 00:18:12,308 --> 00:18:13,135 Bye. 315 00:18:28,716 --> 00:18:31,893 Jarrett: If I hired Wrinkles, once my kid fell asleep, 316 00:18:32,415 --> 00:18:33,851 I would make him hide under here, 317 00:18:34,025 --> 00:18:35,897 and I would like make him bang stuff, 318 00:18:36,071 --> 00:18:38,378 like under here, and, like, make him, like, 319 00:18:38,639 --> 00:18:40,902 get fr... like, freaked out a little bit. 320 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,384 And then.. And then once they fall asleep again, 321 00:18:44,732 --> 00:18:48,083 like, I would have him, like, come out like this, 322 00:18:48,257 --> 00:18:49,519 and I'd have him go... 323 00:18:50,433 --> 00:18:51,913 Like that maybe. 324 00:18:52,218 --> 00:18:54,524 And, like... Just, like, try to mess with him even more. 325 00:18:55,046 --> 00:18:58,528 And... And then once they fell asleep again, 326 00:18:58,702 --> 00:18:59,964 I would have him go like this. 327 00:19:10,018 --> 00:19:12,847 Jarrett: I think some people sometimes need to be scared, 328 00:19:13,108 --> 00:19:14,762 every once in a while. 329 00:19:15,066 --> 00:19:19,114 Just, like, some people, if they're, like, 330 00:19:19,288 --> 00:19:22,248 really sad or something, you can just try to scare 'em, 331 00:19:22,422 --> 00:19:27,427 and it'll just make 'em like, I guess, a little happier. 332 00:19:28,341 --> 00:19:30,865 Like, if I'm home alone watching creepy videos 333 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:32,693 and I get scared, I kinda like it. 334 00:19:32,867 --> 00:19:34,695 Like, it'll start feeling real to me 335 00:19:34,869 --> 00:19:37,480 like there's something else creepy happening, like, 336 00:19:38,307 --> 00:19:39,874 - in the room with me. -Boy: And Slenderman! 337 00:19:40,048 --> 00:19:41,005 Girl: What are you doing? 338 00:19:41,397 --> 00:19:42,920 Boy: Slenderman! 339 00:19:43,312 --> 00:19:44,966 - Girl: Okay. Stop. - Boy: Slenderman! Slenderman! 340 00:19:45,140 --> 00:19:47,534 Boy: I just felt something behind me. 341 00:19:47,751 --> 00:19:48,926 Girl: Okay. Okay. 342 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,758 Boy: I know that Slenderman is real. I know that he is. 343 00:19:54,932 --> 00:19:56,195 Trevor: Folklore is an outlet 344 00:19:56,369 --> 00:19:58,022 for connecting with other people. 345 00:19:58,197 --> 00:20:01,200 The superstitions they believe, the legends that they tell. 346 00:20:01,417 --> 00:20:02,940 Folklorists, and myself included, 347 00:20:03,114 --> 00:20:06,509 find this to be richly evocative of what culture is. 348 00:20:13,124 --> 00:20:14,125 Boy: Dude. 349 00:20:16,519 --> 00:20:17,999 Boy: We have to just put rice in it. 350 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:19,870 We have to cut it and then put rice. 351 00:20:20,044 --> 00:20:21,350 and put it with the knife. 352 00:20:21,959 --> 00:20:24,875 Boy: Shit. Okay. Tag you're it, tag you're it, tag you're it. 353 00:20:25,049 --> 00:20:27,487 Children: Diablo, you're it. Diablo, you're it. 354 00:20:27,661 --> 00:20:31,099 - Boy: Go! Go, go, go, go! 355 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:33,754 Trevor: One of the things that happens with legends 356 00:20:33,928 --> 00:20:36,017 is we try to verify that they're real or not. 357 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,022 Charlie, Charlie, can we play? Charlie, Charlie can we... 358 00:20:42,980 --> 00:20:46,114 Online, we see that kids are propelling the transmission 359 00:20:46,288 --> 00:20:48,682 of folklore in a very, very rapid succession, 360 00:20:48,856 --> 00:20:50,858 in ways that were not previously done before. 361 00:20:51,032 --> 00:20:52,947 Girl: Devil. Devil. 362 00:20:54,078 --> 00:20:55,210 Devil. 363 00:20:55,689 --> 00:20:56,690 Devil. 364 00:20:57,212 --> 00:20:58,213 - Devil. - Woman: Play it again. 365 00:20:58,387 --> 00:20:59,606 Boy: 366 00:20:59,910 --> 00:21:01,651 Folklore provides an opportunity for us 367 00:21:01,825 --> 00:21:05,655 to perform and test out ideas to experiment with something 368 00:21:05,829 --> 00:21:07,527 - that is scary... - Girl: I'm so scared. 369 00:21:07,701 --> 00:21:09,529 Woman: What if we go missing and they play this on the news 370 00:21:09,703 --> 00:21:11,400 - the next day? - ...and play with that 371 00:21:11,792 --> 00:21:15,099 to test the boundaries of safety. 372 00:21:15,274 --> 00:21:17,667 Girls: Bloody Mary, Bloody Mary. 373 00:21:17,841 --> 00:21:19,800 - Boy: Bloody Mary. - Girls: Bloody Mary. 374 00:21:19,974 --> 00:21:24,021 - Woman: Bloody Mary. - All: Bloody Mary. 375 00:21:35,729 --> 00:21:37,600 Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached Wrinkles the Clown, 376 00:21:37,818 --> 00:21:39,472 but I'm not here to take your call. 377 00:21:39,863 --> 00:21:41,517 Leave me a message and I'll call ya back. 378 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:45,304 I'm getting the fuck out of here. 379 00:21:48,132 --> 00:21:49,873 - Um... - No! 380 00:21:50,134 --> 00:21:51,875 Ooh, try it again, try it again. 381 00:21:52,659 --> 00:21:54,530 Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached Wrinkles the Clown, 382 00:21:54,704 --> 00:21:56,576 but I'm not here to take your call. 383 00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:57,707 Did you hear that? 384 00:21:58,839 --> 00:21:59,883 That was creepy. 385 00:22:01,450 --> 00:22:03,060 Now that's Wrinkles the Clown. 386 00:22:03,713 --> 00:22:05,280 Boy: Should we show them the phone number? 387 00:22:05,454 --> 00:22:06,803 Girl: Wait. Everyone, be quiet. 388 00:22:06,977 --> 00:22:08,936 - Girl: 4-0-7... - Boy: ...7-3-4... 389 00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:12,809 Girl: ...0-2-5-4. Call that number. 390 00:22:13,549 --> 00:22:14,637 Boy: Now. 391 00:22:14,855 --> 00:22:16,247 Girl: I'm going to call Wrinkles. 392 00:22:16,465 --> 00:22:18,293 - Girl: He's gonna eat us. 393 00:22:20,948 --> 00:22:22,515 Trevor: What makes Wrinkles the Clown significant 394 00:22:22,689 --> 00:22:24,473 as an example of digital folklore 395 00:22:24,647 --> 00:22:27,694 is how people have responded to his phone number, 396 00:22:27,955 --> 00:22:32,351 uh, and have made kind of a ritual out of calling him. 397 00:22:32,525 --> 00:22:34,918 And videos documenting the proof of actually 398 00:22:35,136 --> 00:22:37,878 contacting Wrinkles is part of the performance. 399 00:22:38,052 --> 00:22:39,488 It's a part of the ritual. 400 00:22:39,923 --> 00:22:41,185 Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached Wrinkles the Clown, 401 00:22:41,447 --> 00:22:42,970 but I'm not here to take your call. 402 00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:44,885 Leave me a message and I'll call ya back. 403 00:22:47,061 --> 00:22:49,977 - Boys: What the heck? - Dude, that's scary. 404 00:22:50,151 --> 00:22:52,675 Boy: Yeah. I told you. I told you. 405 00:23:03,425 --> 00:23:07,255 - Boy: Bye, Mr. Wrinkle. - It went straight to voicemail. 406 00:23:08,169 --> 00:23:10,650 - Oh. Well, he's there at least. - Boy: Wait. Wait, wait. 407 00:23:11,433 --> 00:23:13,087 Wrinkles: Hi, you've reached Wrinkles the Clown, 408 00:23:13,261 --> 00:23:14,654 - but I'm not... 409 00:23:14,828 --> 00:23:16,177 Boy: He... He put it to voice... 410 00:23:16,351 --> 00:23:18,440 He just turned off the phone completely. 411 00:23:19,006 --> 00:23:22,662 Oh, yeah. Let me go in here and turn off the TV. 412 00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:26,840 This is where I do all my videos. 413 00:23:27,014 --> 00:23:28,450 I should have just gone in here. 414 00:23:28,668 --> 00:23:31,279 For fun, I like to watch videos and make videos 415 00:23:31,453 --> 00:23:32,454 on my YouTube channel. 416 00:23:33,412 --> 00:23:35,718 What I like about YouTube is you can be creative 417 00:23:35,892 --> 00:23:38,242 and you can do what you want and not have to 418 00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:39,940 do what anybody else wants. 419 00:23:44,901 --> 00:23:47,730 Sean: Me and my sister were watching YouTube videos, 420 00:23:47,904 --> 00:23:49,819 and we came across Wrinkles the Clown. 421 00:23:49,993 --> 00:23:52,387 And so we started doing research on him 422 00:23:52,692 --> 00:23:55,434 and then we just called him for a video. 423 00:23:55,869 --> 00:23:57,523 We're like, "What if he answers? 424 00:23:57,697 --> 00:24:00,221 And what if he's gonna be real creepy? 425 00:24:00,395 --> 00:24:02,702 What if he's gonna start threatening us? 426 00:24:02,876 --> 00:24:06,096 What if he just can't take getting called like that?" 427 00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:09,535 And we're sitting there, like, "We shouldn't have done this." 428 00:24:16,019 --> 00:24:18,239 It feels like a horror movie when you see someone... 429 00:24:18,413 --> 00:24:19,762 something's about to happen. 430 00:24:25,072 --> 00:24:28,075 Sean: After I saw the video, I felt paranoid. 431 00:24:28,379 --> 00:24:31,208 And I had a nightmare, and like, there was clowns in my house, 432 00:24:31,382 --> 00:24:33,515 and, like, you couldn't see them, but you could see 433 00:24:33,689 --> 00:24:37,171 a shadow of them walk by and it was, like, very creepy. 434 00:24:37,824 --> 00:24:40,087 And it made me, like, very scared. 435 00:24:40,304 --> 00:24:42,481 I took out my box spring. 436 00:24:42,742 --> 00:24:46,180 I slept just on the floor on my mattress and everything. 437 00:24:46,441 --> 00:24:48,399 I didn't want anything underneath my bed 438 00:24:48,574 --> 00:24:50,619 because I just don't wanna wake up in the middle 439 00:24:50,837 --> 00:24:54,362 of the night and there be a clown sitting there, 440 00:24:54,797 --> 00:24:57,408 and I don't wanna... ...start screaming. 441 00:24:58,235 --> 00:25:01,021 Sean: We ordered boxes and I put it in my closet 442 00:25:01,674 --> 00:25:04,372 just so nothing could get in my closet, 443 00:25:04,807 --> 00:25:07,767 nothing could be under my bed. I just felt more safe. 444 00:25:08,332 --> 00:25:10,030 And locked my windows. 445 00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:16,166 It kinda sucks to not be able to feel safe at your own house. 446 00:25:30,224 --> 00:25:33,357 - Girl: Hello, Wrinkles. 447 00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:37,100 I need you to come to my house and kidnap a little girl. 448 00:26:01,081 --> 00:26:02,952 Girl: What did we do to deserve this? 449 00:26:21,928 --> 00:26:23,843 Funky: Scaring kids, scaring people... 450 00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:25,496 I don't know what kind of parents would do that. 451 00:26:25,671 --> 00:26:26,889 No parent I know. 452 00:26:27,194 --> 00:26:30,458 Talcum powder, put it in a sock to set... 453 00:26:31,851 --> 00:26:34,201 'cause you wanna be matte, you don't wanna be shiny. 454 00:26:35,028 --> 00:26:37,421 Real clowning is putting on greasepaint makeup... 455 00:26:38,814 --> 00:26:40,381 putting the money into the costumes, 456 00:26:40,555 --> 00:26:42,383 into your craft, having the right kind of heart, 457 00:26:42,644 --> 00:26:45,081 and your goal is to make people smile. 458 00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:46,474 Make people laugh. 459 00:26:46,779 --> 00:26:48,432 That's a lot harder than scaring people. 460 00:26:50,652 --> 00:26:54,525 Narrator: Now, a circus clown likes to have a full half hour 461 00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:55,962 for putting it on his face. 462 00:26:56,658 --> 00:26:58,051 Benjamin: The sort of default clown 463 00:26:58,268 --> 00:26:59,400 that most Americans are familiar with 464 00:26:59,574 --> 00:27:01,010 is the happy clown. 465 00:27:01,315 --> 00:27:02,664 And this is because of, like, Bozo the Clown. 466 00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:05,319 The Happy Birthday Clown. 467 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:08,061 We love the trickster figure. We love the figure 468 00:27:08,235 --> 00:27:09,889 that makes us think and makes us laugh 469 00:27:10,063 --> 00:27:11,412 and maybe embarrasses us. 470 00:27:11,934 --> 00:27:13,849 Narrator: These clowns are trying out a new act. 471 00:27:14,023 --> 00:27:16,547 Benjamin: Historically, clowns operated in silence. 472 00:27:17,070 --> 00:27:19,115 And part of that goes back to their nature 473 00:27:19,289 --> 00:27:20,551 and their role in the circus. 474 00:27:21,509 --> 00:27:23,337 They're exaggerated. They're over the top. 475 00:27:23,511 --> 00:27:24,555 They're hyper human. 476 00:27:25,165 --> 00:27:26,427 They can do these weird, bizarre 477 00:27:26,601 --> 00:27:28,472 seemingly supernatural things. 478 00:27:28,995 --> 00:27:30,692 We know that there's a human underneath 479 00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:32,955 the greasepaint and the wig and whatever else, 480 00:27:33,564 --> 00:27:36,480 and yet, there's something unnatural about them, 481 00:27:36,655 --> 00:27:38,004 something inhuman. 482 00:27:39,614 --> 00:27:41,094 On one hand, they're presenting themselves 483 00:27:41,268 --> 00:27:43,923 to the public as happy and goofy. 484 00:27:44,706 --> 00:27:47,535 On the other hand, of course, we know that that's an act. 485 00:27:48,144 --> 00:27:49,711 You don't know their identity, 486 00:27:49,885 --> 00:27:51,278 you don't know what their intentions are, 487 00:27:51,452 --> 00:27:52,366 you don't know what they're gonna do 488 00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:53,846 and that creeps people out. 489 00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:55,456 When you add in the access to children, 490 00:27:55,630 --> 00:27:57,197 - that just amps it up. 491 00:27:57,414 --> 00:28:00,591 Did you like that? Oh, heart is just going wild. 492 00:28:00,809 --> 00:28:02,376 I do have a fear of clowns. 493 00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:05,074 I do have coulrophobia which is the fear of clowns. 494 00:28:05,553 --> 00:28:09,209 Their face is painted and it's scary, like, 495 00:28:09,383 --> 00:28:10,601 what are you gonna do? 496 00:28:11,124 --> 00:28:13,169 You remember when I dressed up as a clown to scare you? 497 00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:15,824 - No. - Well, I do. And you screamed 498 00:28:15,998 --> 00:28:17,913 and fell backwards, and laid there. 499 00:28:20,089 --> 00:28:22,222 Benjamin: It's a mistake to ask "When did clowns go bad?" 500 00:28:22,396 --> 00:28:24,398 because the evil side has always been there. 501 00:28:24,964 --> 00:28:27,401 One of the most famous evil clowns historically 502 00:28:27,575 --> 00:28:29,882 is Mr. Punch, the star of The Punch and Judy shows, 503 00:28:30,056 --> 00:28:32,841 which have been popular in England for centuries. 504 00:28:33,015 --> 00:28:35,844 These two puppets are just nasty, and abusive, 505 00:28:36,018 --> 00:28:39,152 and vile, and homicidal. 506 00:28:39,413 --> 00:28:42,503 And it's a kid show. And kids love it! 507 00:28:43,069 --> 00:28:44,592 So when you see these evil clowns 508 00:28:44,766 --> 00:28:46,725 come out in culture, in pop culture, in movies, 509 00:28:46,899 --> 00:28:49,249 and films, and things like that, it's really hearkening back 510 00:28:49,423 --> 00:28:52,382 to a more genuine part of the clown. 511 00:28:53,427 --> 00:28:54,428 You can call me... 512 00:28:55,516 --> 00:28:57,605 - Joker. 513 00:28:59,825 --> 00:29:01,609 Woman: No! 514 00:29:15,797 --> 00:29:17,233 - Man 2: Man down! 515 00:29:22,325 --> 00:29:24,980 - And when you're down here 516 00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:29,419 with me, you'll float too. 517 00:29:32,248 --> 00:29:34,642 - You'll float, too! 518 00:29:38,602 --> 00:29:41,083 Funky: Today, I just came from face painting at a party, 519 00:29:41,301 --> 00:29:43,651 and like six of the boys wanted to be Pennywise. 520 00:29:45,522 --> 00:29:47,263 There's a whole generation growing up 521 00:29:48,090 --> 00:29:50,614 with no positive image of a clown whatsoever. 522 00:29:52,529 --> 00:29:54,183 I go to a party, I make people laugh 523 00:29:54,357 --> 00:29:55,881 and I make cool stuff like this. 524 00:29:56,055 --> 00:29:57,273 And get bunch of kids walking around with these. 525 00:29:58,927 --> 00:30:02,061 3-D! 526 00:30:02,931 --> 00:30:04,280 Cool. 527 00:30:04,715 --> 00:30:08,415 Slap on a mask, you have this empowerment to make people 528 00:30:08,632 --> 00:30:11,461 react to you, you know? And that's a powerful thing. 529 00:30:12,506 --> 00:30:15,552 You know. But that's what terrorism is. 530 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,773 Funky: Real clowns are not scary. 531 00:30:22,211 --> 00:30:23,343 Man: John Gacy, 532 00:30:23,952 --> 00:30:25,214 a man who liked to put on a clown suit 533 00:30:25,388 --> 00:30:26,825 and entertain children. 534 00:30:26,999 --> 00:30:28,870 Now, he is charged with one murder... 535 00:30:29,044 --> 00:30:31,220 and the police have found, at last count, 536 00:30:31,481 --> 00:30:34,833 27 bodies buried under his house and garage 537 00:30:35,050 --> 00:30:36,835 and two more in a nearby river. 538 00:30:43,406 --> 00:30:46,496 Benjamin: In the 1980s, soon after John Wayne Gacy, 539 00:30:46,714 --> 00:30:49,760 rumors and stories circulated that there were clowns, 540 00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:51,719 often groups of them in white vans, 541 00:30:52,459 --> 00:30:54,809 that were circling around trying to abduct kids. 542 00:30:56,289 --> 00:30:57,507 And it spread. 543 00:31:00,293 --> 00:31:02,121 In each case you had these rumors 544 00:31:02,295 --> 00:31:04,210 in the school districts, in the communities 545 00:31:04,384 --> 00:31:06,560 often shared in the news media 546 00:31:06,734 --> 00:31:09,824 and by parents who would call, panicked. 547 00:31:11,652 --> 00:31:14,307 A van of clowns trying to abduct kids? 548 00:31:14,568 --> 00:31:15,961 Of course you're gonna freak out. 549 00:31:16,135 --> 00:31:17,223 Who wouldn't freak out? 550 00:31:44,337 --> 00:31:46,078 Wrinkles: I started off Wrinkles The Clown 551 00:31:46,252 --> 00:31:49,081 just as, you know, something to keep me occupied 552 00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:50,734 as, you know, retired and whatnot. 553 00:31:54,434 --> 00:31:56,697 You know, I did the face makeup and everything, 554 00:31:56,871 --> 00:31:58,568 but after a while, especially living down here, 555 00:31:58,742 --> 00:32:00,179 the face makeup, it just melts off. 556 00:32:08,535 --> 00:32:11,146 You know, no one was hiring me when I was just a regular clown. 557 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,495 I just thought, yeah, you know, 558 00:32:12,669 --> 00:32:14,062 maybe I'll give it a little edge. 559 00:32:15,281 --> 00:32:17,109 Something different. All these clowns are the same, 560 00:32:17,283 --> 00:32:18,414 it's kind of boring. 561 00:32:29,643 --> 00:32:31,688 Saw this one mask on eBay and... 562 00:32:32,124 --> 00:32:33,734 I don't know, I just liked the way it looked. 563 00:32:33,995 --> 00:32:35,736 Looked, uh... It was somewhere between, like, 564 00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:38,086 Michael Myers and my grandfather. 565 00:32:38,260 --> 00:32:39,740 And I was like, "Hey, that's pretty funny. 566 00:32:39,914 --> 00:32:42,264 It's kind of creepy, it's kinda got everything I need." 567 00:32:42,438 --> 00:32:44,005 So I gave it a try. 568 00:32:47,835 --> 00:32:49,924 I'm outside. I had to come tell my mama 569 00:32:50,098 --> 00:32:51,534 that it powered off. 570 00:32:52,187 --> 00:32:53,406 I'm a comedian 571 00:32:53,754 --> 00:32:57,279 and I can make people laugh very easily. 572 00:32:57,497 --> 00:32:59,281 I can do a funny face. 573 00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:08,682 Rena: When I was eight years old, 574 00:33:08,943 --> 00:33:10,945 I first heard about Wrinkles 575 00:33:11,119 --> 00:33:14,209 and I was, like, very freaked out. 576 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,212 I was kind of scared 577 00:33:17,386 --> 00:33:19,606 that he would come to my house or something. 578 00:33:19,954 --> 00:33:20,824 Wrinkles. 579 00:33:21,608 --> 00:33:23,001 What you want, bruh? 580 00:33:23,392 --> 00:33:24,741 Do you wanna fight? 581 00:33:25,438 --> 00:33:27,005 Come over to Georgia, okay? 582 00:33:28,223 --> 00:33:29,703 - Rena: Mom? - Cheryl: Yeah? 583 00:33:30,182 --> 00:33:31,574 Rena: And I'm not telling you my address 584 00:33:31,748 --> 00:33:33,837 so you might as well find my address. 585 00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:35,361 I have a mama... 586 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:37,711 that's crippled... 587 00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:40,583 but I can still fight back. 588 00:33:41,323 --> 00:33:44,239 I have a dog that's named Halo. Where is she? 589 00:33:44,413 --> 00:33:45,893 Cheryl: Rena, hang the phone up. 590 00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:52,204 Don't you make me drop you. 591 00:33:54,858 --> 00:33:57,122 Fiona, can I borrow some of your cat food? Okay. 592 00:34:07,741 --> 00:34:08,916 Rena: Good girl. 593 00:34:09,786 --> 00:34:11,440 Rena: What you gonna do? 594 00:34:12,093 --> 00:34:14,313 'Cause who cares about you? 595 00:34:14,487 --> 00:34:16,445 You need to be in jail right now. 596 00:34:16,619 --> 00:34:17,838 - Rena: Say something. 597 00:34:18,752 --> 00:34:20,275 Cheryl: Quit messing with these children. 598 00:34:22,103 --> 00:34:24,105 Rena: Stop. I'm about to come up there 599 00:34:24,323 --> 00:34:26,151 - and whoop your ass right now. 600 00:34:27,587 --> 00:34:28,892 I'm sorry. 601 00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:31,330 Rena: Because who cares about you? 602 00:34:31,808 --> 00:34:35,682 I care about God and you care about the devil or something? 603 00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:37,988 Yes, he does. 604 00:34:38,641 --> 00:34:40,426 - I said the "A" word. - Rena: You can say I am, 605 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,167 - but I'm not... - Cheryl: Well, I had no idea 606 00:34:42,341 --> 00:34:45,387 that she was talking to actual Wrinkles, you know. 607 00:34:45,561 --> 00:34:47,781 Rena: I wasn't talking to him. I left a voicemail. 608 00:34:47,955 --> 00:34:49,043 Yeah. 609 00:34:49,696 --> 00:34:52,481 I'm scared about another cuss word or something. 610 00:34:53,569 --> 00:34:55,049 Cheryl: Well, they've already heard it. 611 00:34:55,615 --> 00:34:58,139 That's just crazy. It's funny. 612 00:34:58,357 --> 00:34:59,749 - But, uh... 613 00:34:59,923 --> 00:35:02,491 Yeah, at that time, I remember last year. 614 00:35:02,926 --> 00:35:05,973 Clowns are meant to be, you know, funny, 615 00:35:06,234 --> 00:35:10,717 uh, running around the rodeos, and acting a fool, 616 00:35:10,934 --> 00:35:13,807 and at birthday parties. Honk, honk, honk, honk. 617 00:35:14,024 --> 00:35:17,115 - Rena: Honk. - Not out trying to hurt people. 618 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:21,945 Scaring children. They could grow up... 619 00:35:23,208 --> 00:35:25,427 being traumatized by something like that. 620 00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:29,083 Not only liking clowns, but just 621 00:35:29,257 --> 00:35:33,348 - not trusting people and stuff. - I need to grab me something. 622 00:35:42,966 --> 00:35:45,621 Rena: I just had a nightmare last night. 623 00:35:45,795 --> 00:35:46,622 Hello. 624 00:35:47,449 --> 00:35:49,451 My dad got... 625 00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:55,240 killed by Wrinkles and he, like, locked him up 626 00:35:55,414 --> 00:35:57,720 in a basement or something. 627 00:35:59,287 --> 00:36:02,725 If I would have found him, I'm for real... 628 00:36:03,770 --> 00:36:07,121 I'll see how he likes it in the basement. 629 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,081 Hi, baby. 630 00:36:16,391 --> 00:36:18,350 I've been trying to get her to lay on her back. 631 00:36:25,574 --> 00:36:26,445 There she goes. 632 00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:29,578 She was laying on her back. 633 00:36:31,145 --> 00:36:35,149 I also think Wrinkles wants to have fun... 634 00:36:37,064 --> 00:36:38,196 but it's not working... 635 00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:42,809 because he's killing kids. 636 00:36:48,075 --> 00:36:50,686 Rena: He took a little kid home and killed him... 637 00:36:53,994 --> 00:36:58,781 and probably made artwork with blood all over the wall. 638 00:37:06,746 --> 00:37:09,444 Girl: No. 639 00:37:28,246 --> 00:37:31,466 Girl: I'm here. 640 00:37:44,131 --> 00:37:46,568 Wrinkles: Well, Florida's just basically a fucking giant swamp 641 00:37:46,742 --> 00:37:48,788 with houses, you know, like, just strung about, 642 00:37:49,092 --> 00:37:51,094 a lot of shopping, a lot of, uh... 643 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:53,314 a lot of stores that nobody needs. 644 00:37:54,010 --> 00:37:55,577 Yeah, it's beautiful, don't get me wrong, 645 00:37:55,751 --> 00:37:57,797 but it's just, you know, I'm not doing the golf 646 00:37:57,971 --> 00:37:59,755 and, you know, going to the country club 647 00:37:59,929 --> 00:38:01,888 and things like that, you know. I just... that's just... 648 00:38:02,062 --> 00:38:04,064 I never really fit into that kind of lifestyle. 649 00:38:25,346 --> 00:38:26,913 Wrinkles: Yeah. I don't really do the strip club 650 00:38:27,174 --> 00:38:29,785 as much as I'd like to. Costs a lot of money, you know. 651 00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:36,488 It gets harder and harder as you get older. 652 00:38:36,749 --> 00:38:39,055 Then you start getting lonely, you know, sometimes I dream 653 00:38:39,229 --> 00:38:42,015 about maybe having a girl to settle down with, you know? 654 00:38:42,232 --> 00:38:44,713 What am I gonna do? Have them come back to the van? 655 00:38:50,589 --> 00:38:52,199 I just wanna go out there and have some fun, 656 00:38:52,373 --> 00:38:54,419 and, you know, I'll do something different. 657 00:38:57,117 --> 00:38:59,293 Sometimes I go home and I feel good about it. 658 00:38:59,511 --> 00:39:01,991 It's kind of rewarding in a way, you know, 659 00:39:02,165 --> 00:39:04,037 and it kinda makes it worth all the bullshit. 660 00:39:05,821 --> 00:39:08,258 But sometimes I can just close my eyes in the mask 661 00:39:08,433 --> 00:39:09,695 and just get in my own head. 662 00:39:29,715 --> 00:39:31,717 Woman: She's got her excited 'cause she doesn't know. 663 00:39:31,934 --> 00:39:34,023 - Girl: Yeah. - Woman: You won. That's good. 664 00:39:34,197 --> 00:39:35,677 - Girl: I know. - Woman 1: That's... 665 00:39:35,938 --> 00:39:37,244 - Woman 2: Guys? - Woman 1: No. You won 666 00:39:37,418 --> 00:39:38,724 - the money. - Woman 2: What's outside? 667 00:39:38,898 --> 00:39:39,986 - Woman 1: What? - Man: Huh? 668 00:39:40,203 --> 00:39:41,248 Woman 2: There's something outside. 669 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,771 Man: Huh? 670 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:44,643 Woman 2: I swear there's something outside. 671 00:39:44,817 --> 00:39:46,949 - Man: What the fuck? - Woman 1: What? 672 00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:48,777 Man: Oh, my God. Oh, God, God. 673 00:39:52,085 --> 00:39:54,783 - Woman 2: Stop! Do something. - Man: Oh, my God! 674 00:39:55,218 --> 00:39:58,570 - Woman 2: Stop, stop, stop! 675 00:39:58,918 --> 00:40:00,963 - Man: Wait. 676 00:40:15,935 --> 00:40:19,155 I'd probably have a heart attack over that. 677 00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:30,776 Yeah. That would scare me to death. 678 00:40:31,037 --> 00:40:34,301 He was sitting on the table, one evening, right after supper, 679 00:40:34,475 --> 00:40:36,085 and started calling him. You know, I was afraid 680 00:40:36,259 --> 00:40:37,652 he was gonna give him information 681 00:40:37,826 --> 00:40:40,176 and him come here, and, you know, 682 00:40:40,350 --> 00:40:43,963 you hear all those bad stories and... It was scary at first. 683 00:40:44,137 --> 00:40:46,444 Remember when I had to take out my box spring... 684 00:40:46,705 --> 00:40:48,010 - Mm-hmm. - ...because I got 685 00:40:48,576 --> 00:40:50,317 real creeped out when I saw the video of him coming out. 686 00:40:50,491 --> 00:40:52,014 - Mm-hmm - So we put it under your bed. 687 00:40:53,929 --> 00:40:55,278 If he's under your bed, you can protect yourself. 688 00:40:55,453 --> 00:40:56,323 Yeah. 689 00:40:58,717 --> 00:41:01,067 The reason I'm not scared of Wrinkles anymore 690 00:41:01,284 --> 00:41:04,374 is just I learned how to, like, be okay with it. 691 00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:07,160 It's like I basically got scared so much, 692 00:41:07,334 --> 00:41:08,988 I'm not scared anymore. 693 00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:15,168 So basically today I'm gonna be showing you the clown mask 694 00:41:15,342 --> 00:41:16,996 and the little knife that I bought with it. 695 00:41:17,475 --> 00:41:20,216 This is the mask. It's gonna be 696 00:41:20,521 --> 00:41:23,045 my Halloween costume for next year. 697 00:41:25,831 --> 00:41:27,833 Daddy, how do you do this? 698 00:41:30,749 --> 00:41:32,098 - Oh, I know how to do it. - Matt: Oh, yeah? 699 00:41:32,272 --> 00:41:33,491 Jarrett: I wanna do it. 700 00:41:38,104 --> 00:41:40,628 - It's so tight. - Matt: Well... yeah, it is. 701 00:41:40,802 --> 00:41:44,153 I see your eyes bulging through the holes. 702 00:41:47,069 --> 00:41:48,636 Oh, yeah. Beautiful. 703 00:41:48,810 --> 00:41:50,072 Woman: Before he got this mask... 704 00:41:50,246 --> 00:41:51,726 Matt: It's like he turns into somebody else 705 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:53,162 - when this thing's on. - Woman: I know. 706 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:57,123 Jarrett: I think that when someone puts on a mask 707 00:41:57,340 --> 00:42:00,692 or a costume, they feel like they can kind of 708 00:42:01,127 --> 00:42:04,434 just be a different person. If there's something you wanna 709 00:42:04,652 --> 00:42:06,132 change about yourself, you kinda can. 710 00:42:06,785 --> 00:42:09,831 Like if there's someone, like, in my school walking around, 711 00:42:10,005 --> 00:42:12,225 they wouldn't know me. I could just act like 712 00:42:12,399 --> 00:42:14,793 a completely different person and they wouldn't know at all. 713 00:42:15,271 --> 00:42:17,360 It's hot in there. 714 00:42:31,810 --> 00:42:33,420 Robby: I drank a lot of it that night. 715 00:42:33,594 --> 00:42:35,378 Reporter: The viral video shows Robby Stratton 716 00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:36,815 running through a convenience store 717 00:42:36,989 --> 00:42:38,556 with an alligator in his hands. 718 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:40,862 He takes the animal in the beer fridge as well. 719 00:42:41,036 --> 00:42:42,777 Robby: I don't even remember coming up here. 720 00:42:42,995 --> 00:42:44,736 Reporter: We asked Stratton where the alligator came from. 721 00:42:44,910 --> 00:42:48,174 Robby: No clue. No clue. I literally came... 722 00:42:48,348 --> 00:42:50,263 Reporter: This Florida man is accused of having sex 723 00:42:50,437 --> 00:42:53,266 with a miniature horse on multiple occasions. 724 00:42:56,138 --> 00:42:57,705 Reporter: He's now being held in the Marion County Jail. 725 00:42:57,879 --> 00:42:59,446 Wrinkles: I don't know what's next for me. 726 00:42:59,620 --> 00:43:01,840 I live day by day. This is kind of where I'm at, 727 00:43:02,014 --> 00:43:03,798 this is what I got, this what I'm working with. 728 00:43:04,277 --> 00:43:07,019 Um... I don't know. I'm just kind of, uh... 729 00:43:07,193 --> 00:43:09,108 I'm just kind of living out my last years. 730 00:43:10,457 --> 00:43:13,591 I don't know if there'll be a Wrinkles legacy, so to speak. 731 00:43:13,765 --> 00:43:16,463 I think it'll just be like, "Hey, remember that one time 732 00:43:16,637 --> 00:43:18,639 we called that clown? That was scary." 733 00:43:22,121 --> 00:43:23,426 Wrinkles: Yeah, Wrinkles the Clown. 734 00:43:23,992 --> 00:43:25,646 Boy 1: Sup yo, watcha you doin? 735 00:43:26,821 --> 00:43:27,648 Wrinkles: Who's this? 736 00:43:29,041 --> 00:43:30,433 Boy 1: Who this? It's your mom. 737 00:43:30,608 --> 00:43:31,696 Wrinkles: Oh, that's good one. 738 00:43:31,870 --> 00:43:32,827 I haven't heard that one yet today. 739 00:43:33,001 --> 00:43:34,307 Boy 2: Hey, Wrinkles the Clown. 740 00:43:34,481 --> 00:43:35,395 Wrinkles: Yeah? 741 00:43:37,527 --> 00:43:38,964 Boy 2: You have to scare somebody? 742 00:43:40,008 --> 00:43:41,140 Wrinkles: Yeah. That's what I do. 743 00:43:44,926 --> 00:43:47,363 It never ends. You got the pranks, you know, 744 00:43:47,537 --> 00:43:49,670 but mostly it's just real violent stuff. 745 00:43:52,499 --> 00:43:53,805 Woman 1: Hey I'll come down to fucking Florida 746 00:43:53,979 --> 00:43:55,676 and beat your old wrinkly ass. 747 00:43:55,850 --> 00:43:58,897 Girl: We live in a big pasture, and my dad has guns 748 00:43:59,201 --> 00:44:01,421 to shoot the coyotes but he'll shoot you instead. 749 00:44:01,595 --> 00:44:03,423 Man 1: I will piss on you right now. 750 00:44:03,597 --> 00:44:05,381 Woman 2: I'll fucking rip your dick off 751 00:44:05,555 --> 00:44:07,122 and fucking make you eat it. 752 00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:09,342 Woman 3: I'll slap you with a fucking jackhammer. 753 00:44:09,516 --> 00:44:11,561 Man 2: Fucking Mexican Mafia coming for your ass. 754 00:44:11,779 --> 00:44:13,172 We'll cut out your tongue, bitch. 755 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,261 Boy 3: And I'll stick needles in your eyeballs 756 00:44:15,478 --> 00:44:17,089 and tie you to a fucking tree. 757 00:44:17,524 --> 00:44:19,657 And fucking chop off your fingers and fucking... 758 00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:23,051 just fucking torture you, you fucking sick bastard. 759 00:44:23,486 --> 00:44:26,054 Man 3: I'mma fucking hang you u like fucking Vladimir Putin. 760 00:44:26,228 --> 00:44:27,708 I'll take this fucking baseball bat 761 00:44:27,926 --> 00:44:29,449 and beat your fucking brains in. 762 00:44:31,451 --> 00:44:32,887 Man 4: I'mma burn your clown ass. 763 00:44:40,939 --> 00:44:43,158 Boy 4: Kill yourself, Wrinkles the fucking clown. 764 00:44:44,986 --> 00:44:47,510 Boy: If Wrinkles came to my house, I'll tell him, 765 00:44:47,685 --> 00:44:51,210 "I have a game for you. We'll just stay shoulder 766 00:44:51,384 --> 00:44:53,473 to shoulder," and then push you in the water 767 00:44:53,647 --> 00:44:55,388 with the alligators. 768 00:45:08,140 --> 00:45:10,055 Wrinkles: It's kinda disheartening to hear 769 00:45:10,229 --> 00:45:12,405 and it's... But at the same time, I just... 770 00:45:12,579 --> 00:45:14,929 You know, it doesn't really have an effect on me anymore. 771 00:45:15,147 --> 00:45:16,539 It's like you know, I'm still kicking. 772 00:45:16,714 --> 00:45:18,367 No one's come to try to kill me yet. 773 00:45:19,847 --> 00:45:21,936 You know, sometimes these kids text me and like... 774 00:45:22,545 --> 00:45:24,852 the more I text back, the more they're trying to call 775 00:45:25,026 --> 00:45:27,246 and find out more information or... they wanna prove 776 00:45:27,420 --> 00:45:29,291 to their friends I'm real. They're always asking me, 777 00:45:29,465 --> 00:45:32,642 "Send me a picture of yourself. Send me a video. You're fake. 778 00:45:32,991 --> 00:45:34,470 You're not real. Send me a..." You know? 779 00:45:34,644 --> 00:45:36,646 It doesn't really matter who's behind the mask, you know? 780 00:45:36,864 --> 00:45:38,910 Like, it doesn't matter who Wrinkles is. 781 00:45:39,084 --> 00:45:40,215 Wrinkles is Wrinkles. 782 00:45:44,393 --> 00:45:47,309 Boy 1: Who are you? Where did you come from? 783 00:45:47,832 --> 00:45:50,704 - How is your life? - Man: I wanna know who you are. 784 00:45:50,878 --> 00:45:52,967 Girl 1: Who are you, and why are you doing this? 785 00:45:53,228 --> 00:45:56,579 - Boy 2: Who are you? - Boy 3: Who are you? 786 00:45:56,754 --> 00:45:59,626 Boy 4: Who are you, and can you tell me your real name please? 787 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,150 Boy 5: You're just this weird old man probably. 788 00:46:02,324 --> 00:46:04,022 Girl 2: Why do you have to wear a mask? 789 00:46:08,766 --> 00:46:10,115 Man: You don't know if he's a good person 790 00:46:10,289 --> 00:46:11,769 or if he has bad intentions. 791 00:46:12,073 --> 00:46:14,162 You don't know if he's trying to do this for fun 792 00:46:14,423 --> 00:46:15,773 or trying kill you. 793 00:46:15,947 --> 00:46:17,296 Boy: Who are you under that mask? 794 00:46:17,513 --> 00:46:19,428 Who are you under that mask? 795 00:46:19,602 --> 00:46:21,474 Can you let me see under that mask? 796 00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:24,782 Can I get who... who are you? 797 00:46:25,608 --> 00:46:27,001 Cyera: When he's a clown, he could live 798 00:46:27,436 --> 00:46:30,222 in the middle of a shack. Whenever he's a regular person, 799 00:46:30,396 --> 00:46:31,789 he could be living in a big, old house 800 00:46:31,963 --> 00:46:33,399 in the middle of town in Florida. 801 00:46:33,921 --> 00:46:35,618 My friends have said that he's been working like this 802 00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:38,056 - for over, like, 65 years. - It's also funny to imagine 803 00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:40,188 that he refuses to drive or take cars. 804 00:46:40,362 --> 00:46:42,321 He just walks around everywhere. 805 00:46:45,454 --> 00:46:47,413 You can call him. He will scare people for you, 806 00:46:47,587 --> 00:46:50,111 and he's pretty scary himself. 807 00:46:50,285 --> 00:46:52,200 And it's sort of like a Bogeyman-man type, uh, 808 00:46:52,374 --> 00:46:55,508 type situation, except actually existent. 809 00:46:55,682 --> 00:47:00,339 Rena: He probably, on Halloween, he's like very scary, 810 00:47:00,513 --> 00:47:03,298 but on New Year's, he's, like, very happy 811 00:47:04,343 --> 00:47:06,301 because it's a new year to scare kids. 812 00:47:07,346 --> 00:47:09,304 There's two people in his body. Multiple personality. 813 00:47:09,478 --> 00:47:11,132 It's like bipolar disorder or something. 814 00:47:13,178 --> 00:47:15,223 You could be sitting beside a murderer 815 00:47:15,397 --> 00:47:16,355 and not even knowing it. 816 00:48:29,341 --> 00:48:31,734 - Man 1: Jamie! - Woman 1: Jamie! 817 00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:34,259 - Man 2: Jamie! - Woman 2: Jamie! 818 00:48:46,924 --> 00:48:49,143 - Man 1: Jamie! - Woman 1: Jamie! 819 00:48:50,318 --> 00:48:51,580 - Man 2: Jamie! - Woman 2: Jamie! 820 00:48:51,754 --> 00:48:54,627 - Man 1: Jamie! 821 00:49:11,774 --> 00:49:13,124 - Man: Yeah? - All right. 822 00:49:13,341 --> 00:49:14,952 How am I gonna know when I'm not in frame, 823 00:49:15,126 --> 00:49:16,954 or are you guys gonna be able to cut that or if you... 824 00:49:17,215 --> 00:49:18,651 Man: That's all... yeah, it's all mic check... 825 00:49:18,825 --> 00:49:20,305 - Don't worry about it all. - Okay. All right. 826 00:49:20,479 --> 00:49:21,567 - Man: Mic will move around it. - Lambert: Roger. 827 00:49:30,358 --> 00:49:31,751 - Lambert: We good? - Man: Yes. Action. 828 00:49:45,852 --> 00:49:47,158 Wrinkles: I'm Wrinkles the Clown. 829 00:49:48,246 --> 00:49:50,857 I'm not a 65 year old man. 830 00:49:51,118 --> 00:49:52,163 - Ready. - Action. 831 00:49:55,383 --> 00:49:57,124 Wrinkles: You know, the actor that was chosen 832 00:49:57,298 --> 00:50:00,214 to represent the myth of Wrinkles under the mask, 833 00:50:00,388 --> 00:50:02,390 I think he was a perfect match. 834 00:50:02,564 --> 00:50:05,306 I think he embodies what Wrinkles would look like. 835 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,178 He has wrinkles on all the right spots. 836 00:50:07,352 --> 00:50:09,658 He has the gray hair. You know, is this guy nice? 837 00:50:09,832 --> 00:50:10,964 Is this guy gonna murder me? 838 00:50:11,834 --> 00:50:13,010 And that's kind of how Wrinkles is, 839 00:50:13,184 --> 00:50:14,185 you don't know. 840 00:50:15,447 --> 00:50:17,492 There's a number of reasons why I think it's a good idea 841 00:50:17,666 --> 00:50:20,191 for me to keep my identity hidden. 842 00:50:20,495 --> 00:50:22,628 I don't wanna make this project about me. 843 00:50:22,889 --> 00:50:25,457 If people knew who was under the mask, 844 00:50:25,805 --> 00:50:27,763 it would kind of ruin the experience. 845 00:50:28,547 --> 00:50:31,158 Besides the fact of just trying to preserve the mystery 846 00:50:31,332 --> 00:50:32,768 of the Wrinkles character. 847 00:50:32,942 --> 00:50:35,293 Wrinkles gets multiple death threats a day, 848 00:50:35,902 --> 00:50:38,383 and that's fine for Wrinkles, that's fine for the project. 849 00:50:38,818 --> 00:50:41,473 But I just don't need that in my personal life. 850 00:50:42,648 --> 00:50:44,954 At the end of the day, Wrinkles is just a guy in a mask 851 00:50:45,129 --> 00:50:48,784 and a suit, and these kids and these people have taken 852 00:50:48,958 --> 00:50:50,960 the Wrinkles character and molded it into 853 00:50:51,135 --> 00:50:53,572 what they want it to be. Some of them think he's funny. 854 00:50:53,746 --> 00:50:56,749 Some of them think he's rude. Some of them think he's scary. 855 00:50:57,097 --> 00:50:58,925 Some of them think he's fake. 856 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,016 Some of them think he's a ghost or some kind of paranormal, 857 00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:05,888 like, apparition, and really left it open 858 00:51:06,063 --> 00:51:08,630 to let people decide on their own 859 00:51:08,804 --> 00:51:10,241 what they think about Wrinkles. 860 00:51:14,767 --> 00:51:16,682 I, never in a million years, thought that anybody 861 00:51:16,856 --> 00:51:18,901 would think that Wrinkles is a real person. 862 00:51:19,337 --> 00:51:21,948 Let alone that he scares children for money. 863 00:51:23,906 --> 00:51:24,994 You know, I made it up. 864 00:51:27,171 --> 00:51:30,478 But I think parents that use the Wrinkles' voicemail 865 00:51:30,652 --> 00:51:33,090 as an actual disciplinary tactic 866 00:51:33,264 --> 00:51:35,135 to keep their children in line 867 00:51:35,353 --> 00:51:38,965 is kind of messed up. I mean, it's not something 868 00:51:39,139 --> 00:51:40,662 that I would do as a parent. 869 00:51:40,923 --> 00:51:43,187 Um, I think it's kind of psychologically damaging. 870 00:51:44,405 --> 00:51:47,539 Woman: Hey, I have these two to three kids 871 00:51:47,713 --> 00:51:51,543 - that don't know how to listen. - Boy: No. 872 00:51:51,891 --> 00:51:54,285 Woman: We'd give you the price of 30 bucks to come scare them. 873 00:51:54,459 --> 00:51:55,634 Boy: No. 874 00:51:55,982 --> 00:51:57,679 Wrinkles: You know, it's not too far off 875 00:51:57,940 --> 00:51:59,551 from what is kind of 876 00:51:59,725 --> 00:52:02,510 already socially acceptable with telling their kids 877 00:52:02,815 --> 00:52:04,338 that if you're not a good person, 878 00:52:04,512 --> 00:52:07,036 or if you lie, if you cheat, you steal, you know, 879 00:52:07,254 --> 00:52:08,951 you're going to burn in hell for eternity. 880 00:52:09,909 --> 00:52:12,303 You know, I think it's more cruel and unusual 881 00:52:12,477 --> 00:52:14,957 than anything that Wrinkles has ever done 882 00:52:15,132 --> 00:52:16,481 or has ever claimed to do. 883 00:52:23,314 --> 00:52:25,229 Wrinkles: I was always just very curious as a child, 884 00:52:25,403 --> 00:52:28,232 and just very imaginative. 885 00:52:30,973 --> 00:52:33,628 Girl 1: Okay. And you put this Wrinkles mask on. 886 00:52:37,328 --> 00:52:38,503 Girl 2: Not on me. 887 00:52:39,460 --> 00:52:40,548 Wrinkles: The clown under the bed 888 00:52:41,027 --> 00:52:42,594 is just such a go-to 889 00:52:42,768 --> 00:52:46,424 for anyone to think of because of how iconic it is 890 00:52:46,598 --> 00:52:49,601 going back to the Poltergeist clown under the bed kinda thing. 891 00:52:49,775 --> 00:52:51,690 I remember, as a kid, getting a head start 892 00:52:51,864 --> 00:52:53,518 and running into my bed because I was afraid 893 00:52:53,692 --> 00:52:55,302 something was gonna come out from underneath 894 00:52:55,476 --> 00:52:56,956 and grab my ankles and pull me under, 895 00:52:57,130 --> 00:52:58,305 and that will be the end of me. 896 00:52:58,914 --> 00:53:01,265 It is a classic kind of fear. 897 00:53:02,962 --> 00:53:04,529 I tried getting in the trundle bed, 898 00:53:04,964 --> 00:53:07,923 and I was... I was too big. We couldn't close the drawer, 899 00:53:08,794 --> 00:53:10,752 which we all kind of got a chuckle out of, you know. 900 00:53:10,926 --> 00:53:13,538 So a friend who's a little slimmer than I am, said, 901 00:53:13,712 --> 00:53:15,322 "Hey, you know what, I could fit." 902 00:53:15,540 --> 00:53:17,324 "Oh All right. Well, here. Put the costume on. 903 00:53:17,498 --> 00:53:19,805 And I'll get behind the camera and let's make this video." 904 00:53:21,459 --> 00:53:22,547 Man: All right. Is everyone ready? 905 00:53:22,764 --> 00:53:24,375 - Girl: Yup. - Man: All right. 906 00:53:56,798 --> 00:53:57,756 Man: Action. 907 00:54:02,456 --> 00:54:03,457 Man: Action 2. 908 00:54:03,936 --> 00:54:05,242 This video has 909 00:54:05,416 --> 00:54:06,634 a couple elements to make it look 910 00:54:06,852 --> 00:54:08,941 more like a security camera. 911 00:54:09,376 --> 00:54:11,857 With these effects, you can obscure things more. 912 00:54:12,249 --> 00:54:14,512 And I felt like that really helped make the video 913 00:54:14,686 --> 00:54:15,643 more believable. 914 00:54:19,865 --> 00:54:20,735 Wrinkles: Stop for a second. 915 00:54:22,694 --> 00:54:23,738 Okay. Doing good. 916 00:54:29,962 --> 00:54:31,006 This time you're not gonna, like, do... 917 00:54:31,180 --> 00:54:32,356 Just gonna kinda look at her. 918 00:54:32,530 --> 00:54:33,835 You're not gonna do anything, though. 919 00:54:34,009 --> 00:54:35,402 You don't wanna do anything too creepy. 920 00:54:35,576 --> 00:54:36,360 Maybe put a doll next to her or something. 921 00:54:40,538 --> 00:54:42,540 Mm-hmm. Get out. Start looking around. 922 00:54:48,154 --> 00:54:49,242 All right, stop. 923 00:54:49,895 --> 00:54:52,898 What if we just had him grab the camera, disable it, 924 00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:55,204 and then you get to use your imagination 925 00:54:55,379 --> 00:54:58,164 of what happened after that. It leaves it open. 926 00:54:58,643 --> 00:55:02,429 And so it makes it create a story. 927 00:55:02,821 --> 00:55:04,823 A story that you're going to continue. 928 00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:12,700 Wrinkles: We always make a lot of jokes 929 00:55:12,874 --> 00:55:14,746 about living here in Naples, Florida. 930 00:55:15,007 --> 00:55:16,661 You know, people just come here to die, 931 00:55:16,835 --> 00:55:18,532 and if you're 70 and up, 932 00:55:18,706 --> 00:55:19,968 and you wanna play golf, 933 00:55:20,142 --> 00:55:21,840 and you wanna be in competitions 934 00:55:22,362 --> 00:55:24,408 with your neighbor on whose house looks nicer 935 00:55:24,582 --> 00:55:26,975 and who drives a better car, then, yeah, Naples, Florida 936 00:55:27,149 --> 00:55:29,543 is a great place to live. So I kind of love 937 00:55:29,717 --> 00:55:30,936 that Wrinkles... 938 00:55:31,893 --> 00:55:33,199 looked older, 939 00:55:33,373 --> 00:55:34,853 and he kind of looked a little creepy. 940 00:55:35,027 --> 00:55:38,073 And he kind of reminded me of my grandfather 941 00:55:38,247 --> 00:55:42,730 who was retired, always grumpy, but hilarious 942 00:55:42,904 --> 00:55:44,993 and always had the best jokes. 943 00:55:47,605 --> 00:55:48,649 For the most part, I've always been 944 00:55:48,823 --> 00:55:50,608 kind of quiet and kind of shy. 945 00:55:50,782 --> 00:55:53,480 And I've never been in performing arts, 946 00:55:53,654 --> 00:55:55,874 and to all of a sudden turn on a switch 947 00:55:56,048 --> 00:55:59,965 and just be a personality that wasn't myself 948 00:56:00,487 --> 00:56:03,098 that was kind of funny but kind of rude 949 00:56:03,447 --> 00:56:06,101 and just kind of annoyed by children. 950 00:56:06,624 --> 00:56:09,757 I felt like it was one of the biggest rushes of my life. 951 00:56:12,978 --> 00:56:14,066 Wrinkles: Yeah. Wrinkles the Clown. 952 00:56:15,633 --> 00:56:16,721 Girl: Hello. 953 00:56:16,938 --> 00:56:18,070 Wrinkles: Yeah. What do you want? 954 00:56:20,246 --> 00:56:21,595 Wrinkles: We're gonna get a lot of that. 955 00:56:21,769 --> 00:56:23,205 They can't believe that someone answered 956 00:56:23,423 --> 00:56:24,598 and just kinda hang up. 957 00:56:32,214 --> 00:56:33,259 Wrinkles: Yeah, Wrinkles the Clown. 958 00:56:33,433 --> 00:56:35,522 Girls: Hi, Wrinkles. 959 00:56:35,696 --> 00:56:37,176 Wrinkles: Hey, how is it going, guys? 960 00:56:37,394 --> 00:56:40,353 Girl: I love your voicemail. It's so cool. 961 00:56:40,527 --> 00:56:42,573 Wrinkles: Oh, yeah. That's nice. Thank you. 962 00:56:42,964 --> 00:56:45,097 Boy: Dude, that voicemail sounds just like that. 963 00:56:45,445 --> 00:56:46,664 Wrinkles: Well, that's my voice 964 00:56:46,838 --> 00:56:47,926 so that would make sense, right? 965 00:56:49,144 --> 00:56:50,232 - Woman: Wrinkles. - Wrinkles: Yeah. 966 00:56:50,972 --> 00:56:52,539 Woman: Do you have a YouTube channel? 967 00:56:52,713 --> 00:56:54,280 Wrinkles: No. I don't use the internet. 968 00:56:54,541 --> 00:56:56,195 - Woman: Why? - Wrinkles: I don't know. 969 00:56:56,369 --> 00:56:57,849 'Cause I don't like the internet. It's too hard. 970 00:56:58,284 --> 00:56:59,807 Girl: Are you a killer clown? 971 00:56:59,981 --> 00:57:01,156 Wrinkles: No. I never killed nobody. 972 00:57:02,027 --> 00:57:05,117 Girl: You're... Everybody confirmed 973 00:57:05,291 --> 00:57:07,162 that you're bad but I don't believe them. 974 00:57:08,207 --> 00:57:10,296 Wrinkles: No... yeah. You know, a lot of people think 975 00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:14,648 - a lot of different things. - Girl: You're so nice. 976 00:57:15,867 --> 00:57:16,998 Wrinkles: You caught me on a good day. 977 00:57:18,391 --> 00:57:19,740 - Girl: Okay, Wrinkles. - Wrinkles: All right. 978 00:57:19,914 --> 00:57:21,307 - You kids be good. - Girl: Bye. 979 00:57:21,786 --> 00:57:23,309 - Man: Bye. - Girl: Nice to meet you. 980 00:57:23,483 --> 00:57:24,745 Wrinkles: Nice meeting you too. 981 00:57:28,445 --> 00:57:30,272 Wrinkles: I feel like five years ago, 982 00:57:30,447 --> 00:57:33,754 I was so much more naive than I am now 983 00:57:33,928 --> 00:57:36,061 because I was actually really able to prove 984 00:57:36,278 --> 00:57:38,063 a lot of things to myself. 985 00:57:38,890 --> 00:57:43,242 You know, I put a picture, a name, and a phone number 986 00:57:43,416 --> 00:57:46,158 on a sticker, and... 987 00:57:46,767 --> 00:57:48,595 people just did whatever they wanted with it. 988 00:57:48,769 --> 00:57:50,118 People of course are taking pictures of it, 989 00:57:50,292 --> 00:57:51,946 - putting it online. 990 00:57:52,425 --> 00:57:53,905 Wrinkles: After seeing that, 991 00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,342 hey, you know what, I'm gonna start bolstering 992 00:57:56,516 --> 00:57:58,170 this online presence as well. 993 00:57:58,344 --> 00:58:02,217 So I created the HvUseen Wrinkles website 994 00:58:02,391 --> 00:58:04,219 and YouTube channel. 995 00:58:04,393 --> 00:58:05,743 And that's when I started, like, 996 00:58:06,308 --> 00:58:09,050 putting a lot more pictures and, you know, 997 00:58:09,224 --> 00:58:11,096 quote, unquote "Wrinkles sightings". 998 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,751 I'm trying to think if the video or the sticker came first. 999 00:58:13,968 --> 00:58:15,404 I think the video came first. 1000 00:58:20,409 --> 00:58:24,501 So after that, it became kind of fun to make Wrinkles videos. 1001 00:58:24,936 --> 00:58:27,939 The second one was Wrinkles walking through a parking lot 1002 00:58:28,113 --> 00:58:31,595 with a shopping cart full of junk as if he was homeless. 1003 00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:35,642 And the next video is on US 41. I think we actually 1004 00:58:35,816 --> 00:58:37,992 shot that video on the same night. 1005 00:58:41,822 --> 00:58:42,867 Man: Hey. Huh? 1006 00:58:50,352 --> 00:58:52,180 Wrinkles: NBC2 local news 1007 00:58:52,354 --> 00:58:53,921 was really what kick-started everything. 1008 00:58:54,226 --> 00:58:57,272 It is a thing of nightmares. Have you seen this clown? 1009 00:58:57,446 --> 00:58:59,797 Julia: Meet Southwest Florida's Wrinkles the Clown. 1010 00:58:59,971 --> 00:59:01,799 Wrinkles: People pay me to go scare their friends. 1011 00:59:02,539 --> 00:59:04,845 People pay me to go dance at their parties. 1012 00:59:05,672 --> 00:59:08,414 You know, that kind of things. Bar Mitzvahs and whatnots. 1013 00:59:08,806 --> 00:59:11,504 Wrinkles: All that content was already in place. 1014 00:59:11,678 --> 00:59:13,985 So it was just so easy for them to put 'em together 1015 00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:17,423 and make this, like, fantastic story. 1016 00:59:17,597 --> 00:59:19,773 Reporter: ...an internet hit. A Google Plus account 1017 00:59:19,947 --> 00:59:21,601 is dedicated to his sightings. 1018 00:59:21,906 --> 00:59:23,385 Wrinkles: That created an opportunity for people 1019 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,910 to say, "Why is this man dressing up as a clown? 1020 00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:28,695 What is he doing? Why does he keep doing it?" 1021 00:59:30,436 --> 00:59:31,219 Man: Oh, my God. 1022 00:59:32,264 --> 00:59:33,918 Wrinkles: Once it hit The Washington Post, 1023 00:59:34,135 --> 00:59:35,572 then it just kind of snowballed after that. 1024 00:59:35,746 --> 00:59:37,095 It's actually the first clown ever 1025 00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:39,227 that can't get other clowns to squeeze into a car with him. 1026 00:59:39,401 --> 00:59:40,881 They're like, "No. You know, you're a little bit too creepy. 1027 00:59:41,099 --> 00:59:42,230 We're gonna walk." 1028 00:59:42,927 --> 00:59:44,493 Woman: The man inside the mask is a 65-year-old 1029 00:59:44,755 --> 00:59:47,932 Rhode Island transplant who got sick of making balloon animals 1030 00:59:48,236 --> 00:59:51,718 and has moved more towards a menacing "See this balloon, 1031 00:59:51,936 --> 00:59:53,241 kid? It's your head" 1032 00:59:53,415 --> 00:59:54,808 before popping it kind of a clown. 1033 00:59:55,069 --> 00:59:56,593 Like happy birthday, Suzie. 1034 00:59:56,767 --> 00:59:59,160 Well, we got you a gift that will haunt you forever. 1035 00:59:59,726 --> 01:00:02,120 Wrinkles: Watching Jimmy Fallon make fun of Wrinkles, 1036 01:00:02,424 --> 01:00:04,383 I'm like, "Oh, my God. I can't believe that this 1037 01:00:04,862 --> 01:00:06,777 actually went as far as it did. 1038 01:00:10,432 --> 01:00:12,478 I think a lot of people started recognizing 1039 01:00:12,652 --> 01:00:14,175 that whoever this Wrinkles the Clown is, 1040 01:00:14,436 --> 01:00:16,438 he's getting a lot of attention, and I'd like to get 1041 01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:17,788 some of that attention too 1042 01:00:17,962 --> 01:00:19,354 and I'm gonna dress up like a clown 1043 01:00:19,528 --> 01:00:21,139 and go in the woods and scare my friends. 1044 01:00:21,487 --> 01:00:23,663 Anchor: Disturbing report out of Greenville, South Carolina 1045 01:00:23,881 --> 01:00:25,970 in a neighborhood there. People living there say 1046 01:00:26,187 --> 01:00:29,364 a clown is trying to lure children into the woods. 1047 01:00:29,538 --> 01:00:31,540 Boy: Right there at that tree back there. 1048 01:00:31,758 --> 01:00:33,499 Anchor: They say he uses money and candy 1049 01:00:33,673 --> 01:00:34,979 to get children's attention. 1050 01:00:35,153 --> 01:00:37,808 I thought my child was, you know, seeing things. 1051 01:00:38,243 --> 01:00:40,811 The next day I had about 30 kids come up to me 1052 01:00:40,985 --> 01:00:42,726 and say, "Did you see the clowns in the woods?" 1053 01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:44,945 I'm over here to make sure we get a full understanding 1054 01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,600 of what is law enforcement doing because we have around 1055 01:00:47,774 --> 01:00:49,428 two to three hundred children out here. 1056 01:00:49,602 --> 01:00:53,650 We were working some overtime squads to patrol in areas 1057 01:00:53,824 --> 01:00:56,217 where we thought that we would see 1058 01:00:56,391 --> 01:00:57,958 a potential clown sighting. 1059 01:00:58,393 --> 01:01:00,744 What was different about this situation 1060 01:01:00,918 --> 01:01:05,531 was the viral nature of the social media. 1061 01:01:08,142 --> 01:01:09,622 - Anchor 1: Clowns in the... - Anchor 2: Clown sightings... 1062 01:01:10,101 --> 01:01:12,190 Anchor 3: Clowns terrorizing a town in South Carolina. 1063 01:01:13,191 --> 01:01:14,627 Woman 1: Greenville County 911. 1064 01:01:14,845 --> 01:01:16,194 What is the location of your emergency? 1065 01:01:16,673 --> 01:01:18,587 Woman 2: I am reporting the, um... the silver clown. 1066 01:01:18,762 --> 01:01:20,328 Woman 1: You're reporting what? 1067 01:01:20,502 --> 01:01:21,939 Woman 2: The news about the clown that's, like, 1068 01:01:22,113 --> 01:01:23,680 reportedly going around our neighborhood 1069 01:01:24,028 --> 01:01:25,725 and kidnapping children, raping 'em, and killing 'em. 1070 01:01:25,986 --> 01:01:27,292 Woman 1: Are you just calling to tell me this is in the news 1071 01:01:27,466 --> 01:01:28,510 or do you see him out there? 1072 01:01:28,685 --> 01:01:29,816 Woman 2: I've seen him out here 1073 01:01:30,295 --> 01:01:32,950 Ken: I felt the fear would overtake us. 1074 01:01:36,083 --> 01:01:37,215 I'm begging you. 1075 01:01:37,824 --> 01:01:40,914 Whoever you are, clowns, get away. 1076 01:01:41,088 --> 01:01:42,437 Anchor: The latest clown sighting 1077 01:01:42,611 --> 01:01:43,743 happened Tuesday night at 1078 01:01:43,917 --> 01:01:45,527 Shemwood Crossing Apartments. 1079 01:01:45,832 --> 01:01:47,878 Woman: All we see is these men jumping over the fence, 1080 01:01:48,139 --> 01:01:50,402 you know, looking at the kids, and then they take off running 1081 01:01:50,576 --> 01:01:53,405 so we all run back here and chasing them and stuff. 1082 01:01:53,579 --> 01:01:55,755 We've seen 'em busting through a wood right here, 1083 01:01:55,973 --> 01:01:57,670 pulling the wood, and then they ran through. 1084 01:01:57,931 --> 01:02:00,020 Man: I could see if my kid get snatched up by one of them. 1085 01:02:00,194 --> 01:02:01,979 You know what I mean, but he's just... 1086 01:02:02,762 --> 01:02:05,809 It's crazy, all right. It's real. 1087 01:02:08,028 --> 01:02:10,509 Wrinkles: It was kind of scary to see where it was going 1088 01:02:10,683 --> 01:02:12,990 because I didn't know if like, "Oh, shit. 1089 01:02:13,164 --> 01:02:14,774 Did we have anything to do with this?" 1090 01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:17,864 Before you know it, you have this creepy clown phenomenon. 1091 01:02:18,038 --> 01:02:20,171 Anchor: Since then, sightings keep increasing. 1092 01:02:20,345 --> 01:02:22,260 Those creepy clowns are making headlines 1093 01:02:22,434 --> 01:02:23,609 from coast to coast. 1094 01:02:24,305 --> 01:02:26,046 Anchor 2: Flomaton, Montgomery, Moundville, Brighton, Irondale, 1095 01:02:26,220 --> 01:02:28,179 Rainbow City, Anniston. It's happening everywhere. 1096 01:02:28,353 --> 01:02:29,963 Anchor 3: It started in South Carolina. 1097 01:02:30,224 --> 01:02:31,312 - Now it's up here. - Man: I'm just freaking out 1098 01:02:31,486 --> 01:02:33,140 'cause I'm going all over Instagram 1099 01:02:33,358 --> 01:02:35,926 and all I see is, "Oh, clowns, clowns, clowns," you know? 1100 01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:37,275 Man: Nobody knows how to defend against it 1101 01:02:37,449 --> 01:02:38,798 because we don't know if it's a prank 1102 01:02:38,972 --> 01:02:40,452 or if they're really trying to harm people. 1103 01:02:40,626 --> 01:02:42,019 Wrinkles: Now, kids are carrying around machetes 1104 01:02:42,193 --> 01:02:43,977 with clown masks on and things like that. 1105 01:02:44,151 --> 01:02:45,674 Reporter: Police Chief Kenny Hampton said 1106 01:02:45,892 --> 01:02:47,764 he saw a clown carrying a machete. 1107 01:02:48,329 --> 01:02:49,722 He's subject to get shot. 1108 01:02:49,896 --> 01:02:51,202 Reporter: A clown attacked you here tonight 1109 01:02:51,376 --> 01:02:52,377 and cut you with a knife? 1110 01:02:52,594 --> 01:02:54,161 - Yeah. - How scared were you? 1111 01:02:54,683 --> 01:02:57,164 I was, like, a lot scared. 1112 01:02:57,382 --> 01:02:59,036 Reporter: He used his selfie stick 1113 01:02:59,384 --> 01:03:00,994 to hit the clown who then disappeared into the woods. 1114 01:03:02,126 --> 01:03:03,301 Man: Sir, I was not scaring. I promise you. 1115 01:03:03,475 --> 01:03:05,042 I was not scaring nobody. 1116 01:03:05,216 --> 01:03:08,393 I'm a kid, and I'm afraid that... that the clowns 1117 01:03:08,567 --> 01:03:10,134 are gonna kidnap me. 1118 01:03:10,351 --> 01:03:12,701 You can't be too cautious when it comes to kids. 1119 01:03:12,876 --> 01:03:15,487 You can definitely... Especially with shootings, 1120 01:03:15,661 --> 01:03:16,836 you know, and this weird clown thing. 1121 01:03:17,402 --> 01:03:19,883 Wrinkles: God forbid a kid ever shows up with a bomb 1122 01:03:20,057 --> 01:03:22,320 or with a machete in a clown suit 1123 01:03:22,494 --> 01:03:24,148 and starts hacking people up at a school 1124 01:03:24,322 --> 01:03:27,064 or anything like that. And, especially, if they ever 1125 01:03:27,238 --> 01:03:28,500 blamed it on Wrinkles, 1126 01:03:28,674 --> 01:03:30,154 that would make me feel terrible. 1127 01:03:30,328 --> 01:03:31,938 - I am a nervous wreck. - Woman: The fact that 1128 01:03:32,112 --> 01:03:33,722 there was a threat of a shooting at the school, 1129 01:03:33,897 --> 01:03:35,376 and not just one of the schools, it was all three of them. 1130 01:03:35,550 --> 01:03:36,943 Anchor: The most serious incident so far though, 1131 01:03:37,117 --> 01:03:38,423 has been the death of a 16-year-old 1132 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,033 in Reading, Pennsylvania. 1133 01:03:40,207 --> 01:03:44,733 It's extremely alarming about what's going on 1134 01:03:44,908 --> 01:03:47,606 right now in the United States. 1135 01:03:50,739 --> 01:03:52,350 Woman: What the fuck is happening? 1136 01:03:52,524 --> 01:03:54,395 - Man: I don't know. - Reporter: After rumors spread 1137 01:03:54,569 --> 01:03:56,223 on the Penn State Campus, Tuesday morning, 1138 01:03:56,397 --> 01:03:57,921 that clowns were spotted nearby, 1139 01:03:58,095 --> 01:03:59,487 over 500 students 1140 01:03:59,661 --> 01:04:01,141 took to the streets to find them. 1141 01:04:01,402 --> 01:04:03,883 All: Fuck that clown! Fuck that clown! 1142 01:04:04,057 --> 01:04:06,146 Fuck that clown! Fuck that clown! 1143 01:04:06,625 --> 01:04:08,235 Fuck that clown! 1144 01:04:09,106 --> 01:04:10,716 Wrinkles: I definitely took a step back, 1145 01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:14,720 but once I saw the power of throwing an idea out 1146 01:04:14,894 --> 01:04:17,723 and having people grab onto that idea 1147 01:04:17,984 --> 01:04:20,813 and react to it, I figured, "Here's an opportunity 1148 01:04:20,987 --> 01:04:23,903 - to really learn some things." 1149 01:04:26,775 --> 01:04:28,038 Wrinkles: You know, I would put my phone down 1150 01:04:28,212 --> 01:04:29,822 and walk away for an hour and come back, 1151 01:04:29,996 --> 01:04:31,955 and there would be, like, thousands of notifications, 1152 01:04:32,129 --> 01:04:33,782 and my phone was dying 'cause it just couldn't keep up 1153 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,438 with all of the text messages and voicemails. 1154 01:04:38,787 --> 01:04:40,398 They were calling with their concerns. 1155 01:04:40,572 --> 01:04:42,052 They were calling with their hatred. 1156 01:04:42,226 --> 01:04:44,532 They were calling with their absolute acceptance. 1157 01:04:45,838 --> 01:04:48,014 What does this tell us about different people 1158 01:04:48,188 --> 01:04:49,276 and how they process information, 1159 01:04:49,450 --> 01:04:50,712 how they view it on the media, 1160 01:04:51,017 --> 01:04:52,323 how they view it on social media, 1161 01:04:53,019 --> 01:04:54,760 or just the ideas that they made up in their head 1162 01:04:54,934 --> 01:04:57,284 just seeing a sticker in a light pole, you know. 1163 01:04:57,458 --> 01:04:59,243 What did their imagination dream up? 1164 01:05:03,682 --> 01:05:06,511 Jarrett: This one is one of my top favorites. 1165 01:05:08,121 --> 01:05:11,472 It says "Would you rather die or die." 1166 01:05:12,125 --> 01:05:13,735 And I thought that would just be 1167 01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:15,912 kind of funny and creepy at the same time. 1168 01:05:21,265 --> 01:05:22,875 Jarrett: So the top of his head. 1169 01:05:33,886 --> 01:05:36,280 Just... Kinda like this. 1170 01:05:38,282 --> 01:05:40,588 Rena: You're trying to make it not look perfect. 1171 01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:46,072 The end goal is to make yourself look like a clown. 1172 01:05:47,291 --> 01:05:49,771 Rena: I put on clown makeup to scare people. 1173 01:05:51,382 --> 01:05:53,253 Then you're just gonna put in on your nose. 1174 01:06:16,102 --> 01:06:18,931 I need red lipstick. I'll be right back. 1175 01:06:19,976 --> 01:06:21,586 Sean: Once I found out about Wrinkles, you know, 1176 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,502 I started having other ideas for clown videos. 1177 01:06:25,068 --> 01:06:27,592 So we got makeup and then we just basically 1178 01:06:27,766 --> 01:06:29,202 wanted close stuff and, like, running 1179 01:06:29,376 --> 01:06:30,464 and, like, trying to scare. 1180 01:06:31,552 --> 01:06:32,945 I feel like my videos 1181 01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:34,903 are a reflection of my personality. 1182 01:06:35,078 --> 01:06:37,602 Like, I don't try to act goofy. I just like to make videos 1183 01:06:37,776 --> 01:06:40,039 that, like, make me happy, make me laugh. 1184 01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:49,701 Found some. 1185 01:06:52,791 --> 01:06:55,011 - Rena: The crazy lady is back. - The way it started out, 1186 01:06:55,185 --> 01:06:56,751 she would just try to put on makeup 1187 01:06:56,925 --> 01:06:59,232 'cause everybody else was putting on makeup. 1188 01:07:00,233 --> 01:07:01,191 But, uh... 1189 01:07:02,105 --> 01:07:04,194 she would make herself look like a clown. 1190 01:07:04,368 --> 01:07:07,066 I'm like, "You are not going to town with me 1191 01:07:07,284 --> 01:07:09,242 - looking like a clown." 1192 01:07:09,721 --> 01:07:10,983 You're just gonna take it a lot. 1193 01:07:14,247 --> 01:07:15,553 Sean: When I upload all my new videos, 1194 01:07:15,727 --> 01:07:17,294 I'm excited. You know, I'm happy 1195 01:07:17,468 --> 01:07:18,947 that, like, I've got a video done, 1196 01:07:19,122 --> 01:07:20,732 and that I've edited it. 1197 01:07:21,124 --> 01:07:23,343 I feel like somewhat like I've accomplished something. 1198 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,433 I do have a goal to become a filmmaker one day. 1199 01:07:26,868 --> 01:07:27,956 Sean: What's your favorite food? 1200 01:07:28,522 --> 01:07:30,350 Uh, cats. 1201 01:07:34,093 --> 01:07:36,400 Melissa: I always had the mind of him playing football. 1202 01:07:36,617 --> 01:07:38,315 I had people coming up to me all the time, 1203 01:07:38,619 --> 01:07:40,491 "He could play for the Cowboys when he gets older." 1204 01:07:40,708 --> 01:07:43,494 The doctor says he's gonna be 6'5'' when he's older. 1205 01:07:43,972 --> 01:07:44,843 And... 1206 01:07:45,713 --> 01:07:46,888 that's just not him. 1207 01:07:47,193 --> 01:07:49,935 This is him. This is what he likes to do. 1208 01:07:50,936 --> 01:07:55,375 You need to make a big dot on your face. 1209 01:07:56,028 --> 01:07:57,029 Now, I'm Wrinkles. 1210 01:08:03,253 --> 01:08:04,297 Jarrett: And now I'll do this too. 1211 01:08:11,696 --> 01:08:13,045 Wrinkles: Have you talked to this neighbor already 1212 01:08:13,219 --> 01:08:14,699 - or... - Man: No. They... 1213 01:08:14,873 --> 01:08:16,135 - I don't really know them. - Wrinkles: Okay. 1214 01:08:16,570 --> 01:08:18,920 Yeah. I mean, this kind of is a perfect spot. 1215 01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:22,185 There's little bit of cover and it gives a little, um... 1216 01:08:23,099 --> 01:08:24,622 you know, a little mystery. And it might make them 1217 01:08:24,796 --> 01:08:26,363 - look a little bit harder. - Man: Sure. Sure. 1218 01:08:31,150 --> 01:08:32,804 Wrinkles: So the family would be playing cards here. 1219 01:08:33,326 --> 01:08:35,937 Sitting here, having one or two kids just right there. 1220 01:08:36,677 --> 01:08:37,896 Wrinkles: Maybe you're like... you're filming 1221 01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:39,854 and you kind of zoom in, you know. 1222 01:08:40,028 --> 01:08:42,248 You just zoom in a little bit, and you're like, "Oh, my God. 1223 01:08:42,422 --> 01:08:44,685 What the fuck is that," you know? Like, "Holy shit." 1224 01:08:45,033 --> 01:08:47,384 The less you say, the better. Let them be the ones 1225 01:08:47,558 --> 01:08:49,342 that react, but you'll still be recording, 1226 01:08:49,516 --> 01:08:51,127 but you're gonna be running as well. 1227 01:08:51,344 --> 01:08:53,694 They'll see floor, ceiling, floor, ceiling, floor, ceiling. 1228 01:08:53,868 --> 01:08:55,479 - Man: With the camera? - Wrinkles: With the camera. 1229 01:08:55,653 --> 01:08:57,959 And maybe you drop the phone in the hallway, 1230 01:08:58,134 --> 01:09:00,179 and you, you know, you let... 1231 01:09:00,397 --> 01:09:02,050 Then we're gonna pick up all the audio 1232 01:09:02,225 --> 01:09:04,227 - of the genuine reaction. - Oh, how great would it be... 1233 01:09:04,401 --> 01:09:06,054 - Screaming. - Man: ...if she drops it. 1234 01:09:06,272 --> 01:09:07,621 Wrinkles: Yeah. Then I could come in... 1235 01:09:08,535 --> 01:09:10,972 Wrinkles could come in, see the phone, 1236 01:09:11,538 --> 01:09:14,019 bend down, pick it up, end of video. 1237 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,244 Do you wanna get some pizza later on? 1238 01:09:21,853 --> 01:09:23,028 That's gonna be the code. 1239 01:09:23,246 --> 01:09:24,377 Woman: Do you guys wanna go get pizza? 1240 01:09:24,551 --> 01:09:25,596 - Yeah. - Man: You wanna get something? 1241 01:09:25,987 --> 01:09:27,424 That's when you know that he's here. 1242 01:09:27,598 --> 01:09:28,947 He just texted here. 1243 01:09:29,121 --> 01:09:31,167 Wrinkles: When my timer goes off on my phone, 1244 01:09:31,602 --> 01:09:33,691 then I know I'm gonna start doing the peek around. 1245 01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:35,214 The peek around. 1246 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,087 Did anyone see that? What's outside? 1247 01:09:40,350 --> 01:09:41,786 I swear there's something outside. 1248 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,527 - Man: What the fuck? 1249 01:09:51,970 --> 01:09:53,450 Wrinkles: I'll come in. I'll grab the phone. 1250 01:09:53,754 --> 01:09:54,973 I'll hit stop. 1251 01:09:56,409 --> 01:09:58,890 Man: Jesus Christ. 1252 01:09:59,586 --> 01:10:01,458 Wrinkles: And then after that happens, 1253 01:10:02,198 --> 01:10:03,199 - I'm booking it. - Man: Yeah. 1254 01:10:03,416 --> 01:10:04,374 I'm out of here. 1255 01:10:16,821 --> 01:10:17,996 - Wrinkles: 1256 01:10:18,170 --> 01:10:19,563 You guys heard those screams, right? 1257 01:10:19,737 --> 01:10:21,347 - Man: Yes. - Wrinkles: Holy fucking shit. 1258 01:10:21,521 --> 01:10:24,045 One girl came back to see if, like... 1259 01:10:24,263 --> 01:10:25,960 Everyone else had ran. I don't know who it was, 1260 01:10:26,134 --> 01:10:27,353 but the one that came back, 1261 01:10:27,614 --> 01:10:29,486 I think she saw me, like, on the porch 1262 01:10:29,660 --> 01:10:31,314 and she fucking lost her mind. 1263 01:10:32,532 --> 01:10:34,621 Holy shit. There's fucking cops all over this neighborhood. 1264 01:10:43,717 --> 01:10:45,241 Wrinkles: I think on this one, I'm gonna cut it off. 1265 01:10:47,068 --> 01:10:49,680 - Let's see. 1266 01:10:54,859 --> 01:10:56,600 Wrinkles: I kinda love the abruptness of that. 1267 01:10:57,644 --> 01:10:58,993 You know, with that, it kind of 1268 01:10:59,385 --> 01:11:00,908 leaves more to the imagination. Like, "What the hell? 1269 01:11:01,126 --> 01:11:02,606 What happened after that? What... You know, 1270 01:11:02,780 --> 01:11:04,869 did Wrinkles get 'em? Did they get away? 1271 01:11:05,043 --> 01:11:08,264 Did they call the cops? Did they..." you know, whatever. 1272 01:11:14,052 --> 01:11:15,358 Wrinkles: I don't think anything I do 1273 01:11:15,532 --> 01:11:17,969 after the Wrinkles project is going to have 1274 01:11:18,143 --> 01:11:19,492 as big of an impact. 1275 01:11:20,624 --> 01:11:22,495 But sometimes you surprise yourself. 1276 01:11:25,019 --> 01:11:28,806 Maybe this is just a gateway into something bigger. 1277 01:11:30,721 --> 01:11:32,026 - Yeah. - Man: You wanna get something? 1278 01:11:32,418 --> 01:11:36,161 - Man: The fuck is that? 1279 01:11:36,509 --> 01:11:37,902 Benjamin: I think there is an element 1280 01:11:38,206 --> 01:11:41,427 of internet troll to Wrinkles. He's provocative, right? 1281 01:11:41,601 --> 01:11:43,342 He's trying to get a reaction out of you. 1282 01:11:43,603 --> 01:11:45,388 Maybe it's screaming with laughter, 1283 01:11:45,562 --> 01:11:46,824 maybe it's terror, 1284 01:11:47,215 --> 01:11:49,000 maybe it's calling his phone number. Who knows? 1285 01:11:49,174 --> 01:11:51,611 By calling him, you're essentially inviting him in 1286 01:11:51,829 --> 01:11:53,309 into your life. 1287 01:11:53,700 --> 01:11:55,441 Testing those boundaries is a part of growing up. 1288 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,444 Boy: I'm gonna be calling a killer clown. 1289 01:11:58,618 --> 01:12:00,490 Apparently, his name is Wrinkles. 1290 01:12:01,317 --> 01:12:03,841 Boy: Uh, I got this number a hundred percent real 1291 01:12:04,015 --> 01:12:05,233 off the Internet. 1292 01:12:05,451 --> 01:12:06,931 Jarrett: I think people just wanna see 1293 01:12:07,105 --> 01:12:09,934 what would happen if they call the clown. 1294 01:12:10,456 --> 01:12:11,805 - Like... 1295 01:12:12,284 --> 01:12:13,720 maybe he would come to their house or something. 1296 01:12:13,938 --> 01:12:16,288 They just wanna see what could happen. 1297 01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:18,595 Oh, dang. 1298 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,293 I think the creepiest part is when he grabs the camera 1299 01:12:21,728 --> 01:12:23,251 and, like, it just goes out. Like... 1300 01:12:23,774 --> 01:12:26,907 I think if the girl woke up, it would be complete madness 1301 01:12:27,081 --> 01:12:29,736 and, like, she would start screaming bloody murder. 1302 01:12:32,739 --> 01:12:33,958 He don't have any eyeballs. 1303 01:12:36,221 --> 01:12:37,353 How does he see? 1304 01:12:49,365 --> 01:12:51,323 Wrinkles: I do parties, children behavioral services, 1305 01:12:51,497 --> 01:12:52,846 the whole shebang, you know, give me a call. 1306 01:12:53,281 --> 01:12:54,761 Man: Are you the real one that gets hired 1307 01:12:55,153 --> 01:12:56,459 to scare the shit out of kids? 1308 01:12:56,676 --> 01:12:57,808 Wrinkles: Yeah. Wrinkles the Clown. 1309 01:12:57,982 --> 01:12:59,331 - You heard of me? - Man: Yeah. 1310 01:12:59,766 --> 01:13:01,420 Wrinkles: You know, maybe the negative parts 1311 01:13:01,594 --> 01:13:04,728 of Wrinkles will die off and maybe the fun parts 1312 01:13:04,945 --> 01:13:07,165 - of Wrinkles will live on. - Boy 1: Oh, my God. 1313 01:13:07,992 --> 01:13:10,211 - Boy 2: His name is Wrinkles. - Wrinkles: Sweet dreams. 1314 01:13:10,864 --> 01:13:12,692 Wrinkles: As many people that hate Wrinkles 1315 01:13:12,997 --> 01:13:15,826 and hope he dies a slow, horrible death, 1316 01:13:16,435 --> 01:13:18,176 there's a lot of people out there that love Wrinkles 1317 01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:19,743 and they love the character 1318 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,658 and they like the funny parts about him 1319 01:13:21,875 --> 01:13:24,095 and they like the cynical parts that they can relate to. 1320 01:13:24,269 --> 01:13:27,228 Girl 1: I love you, Wrinkles, so much. 1321 01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:30,406 Girl 2: I think you're the number one clown. 1322 01:13:30,710 --> 01:13:34,453 Girls: We love you. We love you. We love you. We love you. 1323 01:13:34,627 --> 01:13:36,020 Girl 3: You're my role model. 1324 01:13:36,716 --> 01:13:39,327 Boy 1: I can laugh like you, listen. 1325 01:13:40,154 --> 01:13:41,765 - Girl 4: Wrinkles! - Wrinkles: What're you doing? 1326 01:13:41,939 --> 01:13:43,157 Girl 5: What're you doing? Girl 6: High five, again. 1327 01:13:44,071 --> 01:13:45,508 - Wrinkles: High five? - Girl 6: High five again. 1328 01:13:45,682 --> 01:13:46,770 - Boy 2: Please. - Girl 7: High five. Thank you. 1329 01:13:46,944 --> 01:13:48,075 Boy 2: Oh, my God. You're so cute. 1330 01:13:48,336 --> 01:13:49,642 Wrinkles: Oh, God. I can't see. 1331 01:13:49,816 --> 01:13:51,557 There's too many high fives going on here. 1332 01:13:51,775 --> 01:13:54,081 - One, two, three. Wrinkles. - Boy: Wrinkles. 1333 01:14:03,874 --> 01:14:07,051 Wrinkles: Our individual minds are such humongous places. 1334 01:14:07,225 --> 01:14:10,707 And the places that you can go, it can be some of the darkest, 1335 01:14:10,881 --> 01:14:14,275 deepest depths of just awful terribleness 1336 01:14:14,493 --> 01:14:15,712 to some of the most enlightening 1337 01:14:15,886 --> 01:14:17,365 most beautiful places. 1338 01:14:17,888 --> 01:14:21,587 It's just interesting to see where people decide to go 1339 01:14:21,761 --> 01:14:23,633 in their mind because, at the end of the day, 1340 01:14:23,807 --> 01:14:25,330 they're the ones 1341 01:14:25,504 --> 01:14:26,984 that are taking this very small information 1342 01:14:27,158 --> 01:14:28,507 they know about Wrinkles The Clown, 1343 01:14:28,725 --> 01:14:30,204 and decided which way to take it. 1344 01:14:30,466 --> 01:14:31,641 Boy: I saw your YouTube video. 1345 01:14:31,815 --> 01:14:33,251 Wrinkles: I don't have a YouTube video. 1346 01:14:33,556 --> 01:14:34,470 - What are you talking about? - Boy: Yeah, right. 1347 01:14:49,528 --> 01:14:50,747 - Wrinkles: Come on. - Boy 1: All right. 1348 01:14:51,487 --> 01:14:52,575 All right. Last picture of the night. 1349 01:14:52,749 --> 01:14:54,098 Wrinkles gotta go to the bathroom. 1350 01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:55,403 Boy 2: Come on. 1351 01:18:03,243 --> 01:18:04,070 Man: What? 102150

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