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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,440 You want a light? Mm-hmm. 2 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,040 How are things down the other end? 3 00:01:02,260 --> 00:01:05,930 This is like living in Pittsburgh. If you can call that living. 4 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,420 A couple of people have made that observation, 5 00:01:11,510 --> 00:01:13,330 that it's like working in a foreign country, 6 00:01:13,410 --> 00:01:16,830 working in Pittsburgh. It gives you a lot of freedom. 7 00:01:16,910 --> 00:01:19,830 In addition to freedom, it gives you a different perspective. 8 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,840 You're not so much a victim of trends, 9 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,340 of popular thinking, of, you know... 10 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,320 What's in the State-of-the-Art head right now. 11 00:01:32,830 --> 00:01:36,000 This is a scene from "Night of the Living Dead," 12 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,830 a low-budget film co-authored, directed, 13 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,310 photographed, and edited by George Romero... 14 00:01:41,390 --> 00:01:43,360 In 1968. 15 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,260 Already the head of a successful commercial production house in Pittsburgh, 16 00:01:47,340 --> 00:01:50,960 this was his first venture into feature Filmmaking. 17 00:01:51,050 --> 00:01:53,240 Its flaws were mainly budgetary, 18 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,120 while its virtues were clearly visionary, 19 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,980 earning it popular success as a horror film, 20 00:02:00,070 --> 00:02:02,490 and a cult following for exploratory uses 21 00:02:02,570 --> 00:02:05,570 of genre and technique. 22 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,550 Style is difficult to define. 23 00:02:25,630 --> 00:02:27,540 Even in this disembodied clip 24 00:02:27,630 --> 00:02:29,880 the technical aspects of Romero's style 25 00:02:29,970 --> 00:02:31,890 are making themselves apparent... 26 00:02:32,870 --> 00:02:35,190 They're in his cutting... 27 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,430 His camera angles... 28 00:02:41,210 --> 00:02:44,430 In his two-dimensional design within the film frame... 29 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,840 Great spatial movements from shot to shot... 30 00:02:54,730 --> 00:02:56,700 And even within shot. 31 00:03:03,140 --> 00:03:05,410 Just making films in Pittsburgh for 10 years 32 00:03:05,490 --> 00:03:07,960 has become a sort of stylistic statement. 33 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,960 In January of '78, 34 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,890 Romero and his Producer Richard Rubinstein 35 00:03:14,980 --> 00:03:17,960 allowed a film crew from the school of visual arts onto the set 36 00:03:18,050 --> 00:03:19,970 of their latest production, 37 00:03:20,050 --> 00:03:22,030 the second part of the "Dead" trilogy, 38 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,850 "Dawn of the Dead." 39 00:03:24,940 --> 00:03:27,190 Using footage shot over one long weekend, 40 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,220 a documentary took shape, 41 00:03:29,290 --> 00:03:31,840 focusing first on the Filmmaking process 42 00:03:31,930 --> 00:03:35,260 and secondly on directorial vision... 43 00:03:35,350 --> 00:03:37,630 What part of it reaches the screen unhampered, 44 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,840 what external forces affect it. 45 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,270 But first, let's introduce our cast. 46 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,740 In pre-production... George Romero, Screenwriter. 47 00:03:48,810 --> 00:03:52,230 Richard Rubinstein, Producer. 48 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,990 In production... George Romero, directing. 49 00:03:56,070 --> 00:03:58,490 Richard Rubinstein, producing. 50 00:03:59,580 --> 00:04:03,000 Michael Gornick, Cinematographer. 51 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,000 Carl Augenstein, Lighting Director. 52 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,000 Tom Savini, Creator of Special Makeup, 53 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,100 Actor and Stuntman. 54 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Ken Foree, Actor. 55 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,760 Scott Reiniger, Actor. 56 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:22,260 David Emge, Actor. 57 00:04:22,350 --> 00:04:24,770 John Amplas, Actor in "Martin" 58 00:04:24,850 --> 00:04:26,770 and Casting Director of "Dawn," 59 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:30,270 and in post-production... Editing the film. 60 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,160 Pre-production involves writing the screenplay, 61 00:04:36,250 --> 00:04:38,670 raising the money and organizing the shoot. 62 00:04:38,750 --> 00:04:41,290 - All aboard. - Good morning. 63 00:04:41,370 --> 00:04:42,790 Hiya. How long to Pittsburgh? 64 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:45,290 - 10 hours to Pittsburgh. - Is there a bar car? 65 00:04:45,370 --> 00:04:47,280 - On your left. - Thank you. 66 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:50,170 Madam, traveling alone? All alone. 67 00:04:50,260 --> 00:04:53,050 - Shall I wake you for Pittsburgh? - No, I'm going to New York. 68 00:04:53,130 --> 00:04:54,550 - The Big Apple? - Right? 69 00:04:54,630 --> 00:04:57,550 - Thank you and good night. - Thank you. Good night. 70 00:04:57,630 --> 00:05:01,430 These are the opening moments of "Martin," 71 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,940 the film Romero made just before "Dawn." 72 00:05:04,020 --> 00:05:06,940 As the story unfolds, you'll see the screenplay qualities... 73 00:05:07,030 --> 00:05:09,320 All inherently cinematic... 74 00:05:09,390 --> 00:05:11,810 Which begin to articulate his style. 75 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,820 First the visual imperative. 76 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:17,810 With few exceptions, cinema relies 77 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:20,820 as little as possible on the spoken word. 78 00:05:20,910 --> 00:05:22,830 Characterization and plot 79 00:05:22,910 --> 00:05:25,830 are best revealed through action 80 00:05:25,910 --> 00:05:28,040 and accumulation of detail. 81 00:05:56,490 --> 00:05:59,720 Montage concepts begin in the screenplay. 82 00:06:47,540 --> 00:06:50,210 The story is developing with literally no dialogue, 83 00:06:50,300 --> 00:06:52,720 and suspense is being generated 84 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,220 not only in the horror of the situation 85 00:06:55,300 --> 00:06:57,710 but in the mystery of the plot itself. 86 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,830 We still don't know his identity, 87 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,840 his motives, or his goal. 88 00:07:11,430 --> 00:07:14,350 Romero's use of dual linear movement 89 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,860 fleshes out the two dimensions of film into three. 90 00:07:17,940 --> 00:07:21,000 A use of such devices as the manipulation of time... 91 00:07:28,580 --> 00:07:31,500 Or other devices such as irony... 92 00:08:05,750 --> 00:08:09,150 As you can see from the final page of the "Dawn" screenplay, 93 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,650 Romero's use of the form is unorthodox... 94 00:08:11,740 --> 00:08:13,660 In a medium where one page 95 00:08:13,750 --> 00:08:16,670 generally equals one minute of film. 96 00:08:16,750 --> 00:08:19,920 The script seems long. Did you plan to shoot it all? 97 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,920 I mean, giving yourself leeway in the cutting? 98 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,920 Pretty much. I usually write long scripts. 99 00:08:26,010 --> 00:08:29,930 "Martin" was a long script that was really a long script. 100 00:08:30,010 --> 00:08:34,430 The first cut came out at almost two hours and 45 minutes. 101 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,940 - Wow. - This is a long script that seems long. 102 00:08:37,020 --> 00:08:38,940 It's not really long. 103 00:08:39,020 --> 00:08:41,430 There is so much description. 104 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,440 And if you read those pages, 105 00:08:43,530 --> 00:08:45,950 there is so much action 106 00:08:46,030 --> 00:08:49,450 described in great paragraphs 107 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:52,450 where I got carried away describing the action itself. 108 00:08:52,530 --> 00:08:56,450 Some of those things take a second and a half. 109 00:08:56,540 --> 00:08:59,460 And it's not cutting that long. 110 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:01,960 We did... I cut the first half of the film 111 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,960 and it came in at 45 minutes, 112 00:09:04,050 --> 00:09:06,970 so I think the first cut will be about a two-hour cut. 113 00:09:07,050 --> 00:09:08,970 - Great. - Which is not bad for a first cut. 114 00:09:11,050 --> 00:09:14,970 To what extent do other influences creep into a work? 115 00:09:15,060 --> 00:09:17,480 And at what stage? 116 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,120 A lot of people have often compared you to Hitchcock. 117 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,630 But you don't buy that. How come? 118 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:31,120 They have some nerve. 119 00:09:32,710 --> 00:09:37,130 No, I don't... Filmmaking is funny. 120 00:09:37,210 --> 00:09:40,130 Filmmakers... All artists to some extent 121 00:09:40,220 --> 00:09:42,140 are parasitic of what they've seen, 122 00:09:42,220 --> 00:09:44,640 and what they are basically imitating, 123 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,140 what attracted them in the first place. 124 00:09:47,220 --> 00:09:50,140 Filmmakers, maybe more than any other form, 125 00:09:50,230 --> 00:09:52,650 I mean, it's not like you can sit down with a pencil 126 00:09:52,730 --> 00:09:55,650 and do your thing... Or a canvas or whatever. 127 00:09:55,730 --> 00:09:57,640 It's very expensive and very few people 128 00:09:57,730 --> 00:10:00,150 get enough chance to work with the hardware, 129 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,660 and get enough chance to really 130 00:10:02,740 --> 00:10:06,160 develop a style... 131 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,150 Except on a very intellectual level. 132 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,160 That's why unfortunately the State-of-the-Art 133 00:10:11,250 --> 00:10:14,170 has somewhat gone towards menus and pre-planning 134 00:10:14,250 --> 00:10:17,170 and everything else... Which is a little bit destructive. 135 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,680 I would say that if I'm parasitic of anybody it's more Welles, 136 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,680 and some of the early... Like Howard Hawks and people like that. 137 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,180 Those were films that really affected me. 138 00:10:32,270 --> 00:10:34,190 There are certain Hitchcockian things that... 139 00:10:34,270 --> 00:10:37,690 First of all, I don't consciously when I'm setting up a shot 140 00:10:37,770 --> 00:10:40,190 say wow, remember that shot in... 141 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,700 And then try to imitate that. 142 00:10:42,780 --> 00:10:45,200 They are Hitchcock-type influences... 143 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,200 The sequence in the cemetery in "Night of the Living Dead"... 144 00:10:50,250 --> 00:10:53,620 Where you see the figure way in the background and don't know what it is. 145 00:10:53,710 --> 00:10:55,980 And it gradually gets worked into the plot. 146 00:10:56,060 --> 00:10:58,930 It starts to become a threat, and then the threat is a real threat. 147 00:10:59,010 --> 00:11:01,170 That's kind of a Hitchcockian sequence. 148 00:11:05,050 --> 00:11:07,910 Hey, I mean praying's for church, huh? 149 00:11:07,990 --> 00:11:09,840 Come on. 150 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,340 I haven't seen you in church lately. 151 00:11:12,420 --> 00:11:14,340 Well... 152 00:11:14,430 --> 00:11:17,850 Not much sense in my going to church. 153 00:11:17,930 --> 00:11:19,850 Do you remember one time when we were small 154 00:11:19,930 --> 00:11:23,180 we were out here? It was from right over there. 155 00:11:23,270 --> 00:11:24,790 I jumped out at you from behind the tree, 156 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:27,710 and Grandpa got all excited and he shook his fist at me 157 00:11:27,790 --> 00:11:30,710 and he said, "Boy, you'll be damned to Hell!" 158 00:11:30,790 --> 00:11:34,170 Remember that? Right over there. 159 00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:36,730 You used to really be scared here. 160 00:11:36,820 --> 00:11:40,170 - Johnny! - You're still afraid. 161 00:11:40,250 --> 00:11:42,170 Stop it now, I mean it. 162 00:11:45,710 --> 00:11:48,630 They're coming to get you, Barbara. 163 00:11:49,930 --> 00:11:51,850 Stop it. You're ignorant. 164 00:11:51,930 --> 00:11:54,750 They're coming for you, Barbara. 165 00:11:54,830 --> 00:11:57,250 Stop it! You're acting like a child. 166 00:11:57,340 --> 00:11:59,380 They're coming for you. 167 00:11:59,450 --> 00:12:02,670 Look, there comes one of them now. 168 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,130 - He'll hear you. - Here he comes now. 169 00:12:05,210 --> 00:12:07,100 - I'm getting out of here. - Johnny... 170 00:12:07,180 --> 00:12:09,600 A couple of pieces that I've seen written 171 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:12,460 about "Night of the Living Dead" say that it takes us back 172 00:12:12,550 --> 00:12:14,550 to silent cinema storytelling. 173 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,010 Johnny! Help me. 174 00:12:22,690 --> 00:12:25,210 I can see now a couple of specific things 175 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:28,250 in a couple of my films that are Hitchcockian in that way. 176 00:12:29,530 --> 00:12:32,330 Sometimes people say it because of the plot lines... 177 00:12:32,420 --> 00:12:35,840 The very certain ironies in the plots that I use. 178 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,840 I don't think that has anything to do with form, 179 00:12:37,930 --> 00:12:40,850 I think that's more a content association people are making. 180 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,770 "The Thing" was the movie that knocked me down when I was a kid. 181 00:12:45,850 --> 00:12:47,400 That's the one, I think, horror film. 182 00:12:47,490 --> 00:12:49,910 Everyone says "What attracts you to the genre?" 183 00:12:49,990 --> 00:12:51,910 And it was probably "The Thing." 184 00:12:51,990 --> 00:12:53,910 I was the right age at exactly the right time 185 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:57,520 and it had exactly the right effect on me. I've never forgotten it. 186 00:12:57,610 --> 00:12:59,780 The cineographics of "The Thing," 187 00:12:59,860 --> 00:13:01,780 and those of "Night" and "Dawn" 188 00:13:01,870 --> 00:13:04,040 are remarkably similar. 189 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,540 Confined spaces within which groups of protagonists 190 00:13:06,620 --> 00:13:10,040 are eternally on guard against a deadly foe. 191 00:13:10,130 --> 00:13:13,520 Tranquility never exists in Romero's world. 192 00:13:13,844 --> 00:13:17,844 You could say his style is derived from D.W. Griffith's because he uses closeups. 193 00:13:17,990 --> 00:13:21,877 The truth of it is, artists imprint distinctive auras on their films. 194 00:13:22,073 --> 00:13:25,606 "Genre" is a term which should have been invented by the distributors. 195 00:13:25,895 --> 00:13:28,695 For the artist, it's just a departure point. 196 00:13:29,340 --> 00:13:30,740 Thank you 197 00:13:31,402 --> 00:13:34,002 Casting occurs in pre-production. 198 00:13:34,082 --> 00:13:36,362 Is it an irony in both "Night and "Dawn" 199 00:13:36,452 --> 00:13:39,622 that Romero's main protagonists are black? 200 00:13:39,702 --> 00:13:42,122 In "Night of the Living Dead" 201 00:13:42,212 --> 00:13:44,132 the character, if you read the script... 202 00:13:44,212 --> 00:13:48,132 If you read my shooting script, 203 00:13:48,212 --> 00:13:50,132 the character is never described 204 00:13:50,212 --> 00:13:52,632 in terms of his color. 205 00:13:52,722 --> 00:13:55,142 And Duane was the best actor that we knew 206 00:13:55,222 --> 00:13:59,142 from among our friends, which was where we cast that film... 207 00:13:59,222 --> 00:14:02,142 Where we cast that film. And so he did the part. 208 00:14:02,232 --> 00:14:04,652 Consciously, I resisted writing new dialogue 209 00:14:04,732 --> 00:14:07,152 because he happened to be black. 210 00:14:07,232 --> 00:14:09,782 And just let it play and we just shot the script. 211 00:14:09,872 --> 00:14:12,542 As we started to shoot and got into it, 212 00:14:12,622 --> 00:14:14,542 we lived at that farmhouse. 213 00:14:14,622 --> 00:14:17,042 So we were always into raps about the implications 214 00:14:17,122 --> 00:14:19,042 and the meanings and stuff like that. 215 00:14:19,132 --> 00:14:20,922 Some of that maybe crept into the film. 216 00:14:26,082 --> 00:14:28,382 I think in both "Night" and "Dawn" 217 00:14:28,472 --> 00:14:30,762 the biggest job that all of us had 218 00:14:30,842 --> 00:14:32,762 during the production of both of those films 219 00:14:32,842 --> 00:14:34,902 was subduing all of those thoughts. 220 00:14:34,982 --> 00:14:36,942 Those can really interfere with what you're doing. 221 00:14:36,982 --> 00:14:39,802 What you're doing on the surface is making a comic book. 222 00:14:41,932 --> 00:14:46,602 Those ironies that you're talking about are that selection process... 223 00:14:46,692 --> 00:14:49,612 Is something again that happened at script stage, 224 00:14:49,692 --> 00:14:51,612 or on a consciousness level 225 00:14:51,692 --> 00:14:54,112 somewhere beneath the craft of making the film. 226 00:14:54,336 --> 00:14:56,600 Our news cameras have just returned 227 00:14:56,639 --> 00:15:00,127 from covering such a search and destroy operation against the ghouls. 228 00:15:00,162 --> 00:15:04,151 Themes, motifs, and metaphors 229 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,828 trace back to the screenplay stage 230 00:15:06,835 --> 00:15:09,839 why does the media play such an important part in his films? 231 00:15:10,032 --> 00:15:13,746 Have been organized to search out and destroy the marauding ghouls. 232 00:15:14,413 --> 00:15:19,763 I worked in television for so long, that maybe it's just an important part of my background. 233 00:15:19,830 --> 00:15:24,093 I also just have a lot of attitudes about what that "reach", 234 00:15:24,261 --> 00:15:30,484 that whole "communications electronic box" has done to everybody. So I guess I tend to take "jabs" at it. 235 00:15:30,902 --> 00:15:34,991 The plan is, kill the brain and you kill the ghoul. 236 00:15:36,159 --> 00:15:39,663 - Want anything from the supply wagon? - No, we're all right. 237 00:15:40,999 --> 00:15:43,300 Hey, cass, put that thing all the way in the fire. 238 00:15:43,335 --> 00:15:45,964 - We don't want it getting up again. - All right, I gotcha. 239 00:15:45,999 --> 00:15:47,967 Chief McClellan, how's everything going? 240 00:15:48,008 --> 00:15:51,055 Oh, things aren't going too bad. Men are taking it pretty good. 241 00:15:51,472 --> 00:15:53,808 You want to get on the other side of the road over there. 242 00:15:54,434 --> 00:15:56,674 Chief, do you think we'll be able to defeat these things? 243 00:15:56,770 --> 00:15:59,399 Well, we killed 19 of them today, right in this area. 244 00:15:59,607 --> 00:16:02,862 Those last three we caught trying to claw their way into an abandoned shed. 245 00:16:02,904 --> 00:16:05,658 They must have thought somebody was in there. There wasn't, though. 246 00:16:06,082 --> 00:16:09,282 People on the television, not really answering the question 247 00:16:09,406 --> 00:16:12,906 but making it more confusing, that's been the conscience part of that. 248 00:16:12,930 --> 00:16:15,130 Because that's generally what it's about. 249 00:16:16,437 --> 00:16:20,077 "Ladies and Gentlemen there was a plane crash that took out a small piece of Manhattan... 250 00:16:20,173 --> 00:16:21,173 more later." 251 00:16:23,526 --> 00:16:27,350 it's never reassuring, it's always alarming. 252 00:16:28,010 --> 00:16:29,810 That's been a kind of conscience through-line. 253 00:16:30,112 --> 00:16:33,932 The Producer is in a key position during pre-production, 254 00:16:34,022 --> 00:16:36,062 securing funds, putting the film 255 00:16:36,142 --> 00:16:38,562 into a viable financial and legal position, 256 00:16:38,642 --> 00:16:41,062 and thereafter protecting the director. 257 00:16:41,142 --> 00:16:44,562 I think that we tend to operate 258 00:16:44,652 --> 00:16:47,072 in more a European style in terms 259 00:16:47,152 --> 00:16:49,572 of the way we produce and the way George directs, 260 00:16:49,652 --> 00:16:51,562 and that we tend to follow 261 00:16:51,652 --> 00:16:54,572 Sarris' auteur theory of direction, 262 00:16:54,662 --> 00:16:57,582 and that I see my function as a Producer 263 00:16:57,662 --> 00:17:00,082 in terms of providing George Romero 264 00:17:00,162 --> 00:17:02,572 with a brush, palette and canvas. 265 00:17:02,662 --> 00:17:05,082 And his creative control is absolute 266 00:17:05,172 --> 00:17:08,092 in terms of the film itself... 267 00:17:08,172 --> 00:17:10,592 That he's the scriptwriter, 268 00:17:10,672 --> 00:17:12,472 that he's the director and he's the editor. 269 00:17:12,562 --> 00:17:16,282 And it's totally the product of one man's vision on a creative level. 270 00:17:16,406 --> 00:17:22,506 This is the largest budget that George has had to work with in terms of production. 271 00:17:23,883 --> 00:17:28,716 I think that he's got enough money here to do what he wants to do. 272 00:17:30,092 --> 00:17:34,892 It's not an excessive amount of money by traditional Hollywood standards. This is a low-budget picture. 273 00:17:35,231 --> 00:17:40,631 Of course anything under $2½ million dollars is considered low-budget in terms of major studios. 274 00:17:40,662 --> 00:17:42,542 The biggest difference really in "Dawn" 275 00:17:42,632 --> 00:17:44,552 is working with a little bit of money 276 00:17:44,632 --> 00:17:47,552 and still being satisfied with the product. 277 00:17:47,632 --> 00:17:50,552 In fact, it was easier. I was paranoid about it upfront, 278 00:17:50,642 --> 00:17:53,562 because just having that extra weight is a trip. 279 00:17:55,142 --> 00:17:58,562 But I'm comfortable with what "Dawn of the Dead" is. 280 00:17:58,652 --> 00:18:01,572 And the extra money it took to make it what it is 281 00:18:01,652 --> 00:18:04,572 was really not a hindrance at all. It was a big, big help. 282 00:18:04,652 --> 00:18:07,072 A lot of people say "I can't work with money, 283 00:18:07,152 --> 00:18:09,822 I can't work with a lot of people around." 284 00:18:09,912 --> 00:18:13,832 This film was financed in somewhat of a traditional way 285 00:18:13,912 --> 00:18:16,322 in that it's co-financed internationally, 286 00:18:16,412 --> 00:18:18,832 that a group headed by Dario Argento 287 00:18:18,922 --> 00:18:22,342 in Italy co-financed the film with us. 288 00:18:22,422 --> 00:18:24,342 And our end of the co-financing 289 00:18:24,422 --> 00:18:26,332 comes from private individuals. 290 00:18:27,922 --> 00:18:30,342 I think it was unique in that this project 291 00:18:30,432 --> 00:18:33,352 started off with two creative people getting together... 292 00:18:33,432 --> 00:18:35,852 Dario Argento and George Romero. 293 00:18:35,932 --> 00:18:38,712 And then the business side came after that point. 294 00:18:38,802 --> 00:18:41,722 Now the physical productions begins. 295 00:18:41,812 --> 00:18:43,732 In this second stage the Director 296 00:18:43,812 --> 00:18:47,232 and Cinematographer stand to share equally in importance 297 00:18:47,312 --> 00:18:49,292 for what is captured on film. 298 00:18:51,452 --> 00:18:53,372 It's the eighth week of the "Dawn" shoot, 299 00:18:53,452 --> 00:18:56,372 we're in an $80 million mall in Pittsburgh, 300 00:18:56,452 --> 00:18:58,372 which Romero is allowed to use each night 301 00:18:58,462 --> 00:19:00,382 from 11:00 till 7:00 in the morning. 302 00:19:01,962 --> 00:19:04,382 - Everyone ready? - Camera? 303 00:19:04,462 --> 00:19:06,372 - It's rolling. - Sound. 304 00:19:17,472 --> 00:19:19,392 Cut. 305 00:19:24,982 --> 00:19:27,902 He does not get uptight, 306 00:19:27,982 --> 00:19:30,402 he asks me if it's possible 307 00:19:30,492 --> 00:19:32,912 and asks me how much time it's gonna take. 308 00:19:32,992 --> 00:19:36,412 And then he'll give me a straight "yes" or "no" on whether to do it. 309 00:19:36,492 --> 00:19:39,412 There's no bullshit, there's no yelling, 310 00:19:39,502 --> 00:19:40,922 it's been a very... 311 00:19:41,002 --> 00:19:43,422 For shooting this long under these conditions 312 00:19:43,502 --> 00:19:45,822 I'd say it's been absolutely wonderful. 313 00:19:45,902 --> 00:19:47,802 George Romero 314 00:19:47,892 --> 00:19:49,812 directs pretty much the way he is... 315 00:19:49,892 --> 00:19:52,312 Pleasant, relaxed, 316 00:19:53,092 --> 00:19:55,012 great sense of humor. 317 00:19:55,026 --> 00:19:57,959 And intelligent, so the combinations work well. 318 00:19:57,964 --> 00:20:01,164 There's no hurry, there's no pressure, 319 00:20:01,354 --> 00:20:02,654 we discuss it. 320 00:20:02,753 --> 00:20:04,753 And usually a very few words are exchanged. 321 00:20:04,891 --> 00:20:07,791 There are ideas, a few words and we've got it. 322 00:20:08,072 --> 00:20:12,272 The man's like water and you're a ship, so you just float along and do the job. 323 00:20:13,197 --> 00:20:14,197 Okay. 324 00:20:14,658 --> 00:20:15,658 Ready? 325 00:20:16,065 --> 00:20:17,065 Quiet. 326 00:20:19,038 --> 00:20:20,038 Action. 327 00:20:20,672 --> 00:20:23,022 The best thing about him is that he gets across 328 00:20:23,112 --> 00:20:25,032 what he wants without telling you. 329 00:20:25,112 --> 00:20:27,532 I don't know how he does it, but it's incredible. 330 00:20:27,612 --> 00:20:30,032 'Cause he's so clear about what he wants all the time. 331 00:20:30,122 --> 00:20:34,042 I think when he's working he's editing at the same time. 332 00:20:34,122 --> 00:20:36,032 When he says it looks good, 333 00:20:36,122 --> 00:20:39,042 we've learned that indeed it will look good, 334 00:20:39,132 --> 00:20:41,052 because he has a very good eye. 335 00:20:41,132 --> 00:20:44,052 The atmosphere which pervaded the "Dawn" shoot 336 00:20:44,132 --> 00:20:47,052 was unusual for a film production in this country. 337 00:20:47,132 --> 00:20:49,052 And while good films have been created 338 00:20:49,142 --> 00:20:52,562 by directors who were universally despised, 339 00:20:52,642 --> 00:20:54,562 there's no doubt that chemistry counts. 340 00:20:57,142 --> 00:21:00,062 I think George likes confidence in his crew, 341 00:21:00,152 --> 00:21:03,072 but I think he likes to work with people he feels at ease with. 342 00:21:03,152 --> 00:21:05,022 They have to be confident, but beyond that 343 00:21:05,102 --> 00:21:07,482 he likes people he can work with till 7:00 in the morning 344 00:21:07,572 --> 00:21:10,492 like we did today... And feel at ease with them. 345 00:21:10,572 --> 00:21:13,492 There's a lot of rapping that goes on constantly on the shoots. 346 00:21:13,582 --> 00:21:17,002 A lot of fun and a lot of hard work. 347 00:21:17,082 --> 00:21:20,502 It's a joy working with George, because he accepts a lot of input 348 00:21:20,582 --> 00:21:24,002 in terms of what I see or... It's amazing that even suggestions 349 00:21:24,092 --> 00:21:27,512 that come oftentimes from crew members through me... 350 00:21:27,592 --> 00:21:31,012 And he's very willing to accept those observations. 351 00:21:31,092 --> 00:21:33,372 A lot of his film is input from the crew. 352 00:21:33,462 --> 00:21:35,882 A lot of freedom... It's a real democracy with George. 353 00:21:41,972 --> 00:21:44,492 The "Dawn" production took a month off in December 354 00:21:44,582 --> 00:21:48,502 rather than remove and restore the holiday decorations every night, 355 00:21:48,982 --> 00:21:51,402 losing hours of shooting time. 356 00:21:51,482 --> 00:21:55,402 Romero used that month to cut what he had already shot. 357 00:21:55,492 --> 00:21:57,412 By the time the school crew arrived, 358 00:21:57,492 --> 00:21:59,912 four weeks into the second round of shooting, 359 00:21:59,992 --> 00:22:02,412 he had covered the screenplay well enough 360 00:22:02,492 --> 00:22:06,412 to stop at any point and edit the footage into release form. 361 00:22:06,502 --> 00:22:09,422 It was now in an improvisational stage 362 00:22:09,502 --> 00:22:11,892 where new ideas were being developed. 363 00:22:11,972 --> 00:22:14,892 This picture's really designed for right now. 364 00:22:14,972 --> 00:22:17,752 It's much more of a comic book... It's much lighter. 365 00:22:17,842 --> 00:22:20,642 It didn't seem so in the script. 366 00:22:20,732 --> 00:22:23,152 In fact, the scene we saw being shot yesterday, 367 00:22:23,232 --> 00:22:25,652 the pie fight... 368 00:22:25,732 --> 00:22:27,652 And I'd heard rumors 369 00:22:27,732 --> 00:22:30,152 that the ending has been also changed. 370 00:22:30,242 --> 00:22:32,162 Yeah, in fact, we shot both, 371 00:22:32,242 --> 00:22:35,112 because I wasn't willing to give up the tragic ending. 372 00:22:35,192 --> 00:22:38,112 But this film, "Dawn of the Dead" 373 00:22:38,202 --> 00:22:41,622 has... it's a very romanticized film. 374 00:22:43,532 --> 00:22:45,952 MI vida! Miguelito. 375 00:22:50,832 --> 00:22:53,252 The major change that's happened 376 00:22:53,332 --> 00:22:55,252 that I can see from my conceptions 377 00:22:55,332 --> 00:22:58,252 upon first reading it and now 378 00:22:58,332 --> 00:23:01,252 is that it's lightening up. 379 00:23:01,342 --> 00:23:03,262 You know? 380 00:23:03,342 --> 00:23:06,762 When I first read it, I thought it was awfully shocking 381 00:23:06,842 --> 00:23:11,262 to think just in terms of numbers of bodies being maimed 382 00:23:11,352 --> 00:23:14,772 and gallons of blood being spilled, 383 00:23:14,852 --> 00:23:16,762 but there is a quality coming out 384 00:23:16,852 --> 00:23:20,272 that is counter-weighting that. 385 00:23:22,362 --> 00:23:26,782 It's definitely becoming more of a fantasy to me... 386 00:23:26,862 --> 00:23:29,282 More of an adventure to me than I first 387 00:23:29,372 --> 00:23:32,822 conceived of it upon first reading it. 388 00:23:33,462 --> 00:23:35,232 I think the number of the special effects 389 00:23:35,352 --> 00:23:37,772 are a substantial portion of the budget, 390 00:23:37,852 --> 00:23:39,272 where prior to this 391 00:23:39,352 --> 00:23:42,272 they were less so in George's other films. 392 00:23:42,352 --> 00:23:45,772 It's the number of explosions, the number of cosmetic effects that Tom Savinl does. 393 00:23:49,642 --> 00:23:50,472 Ya! 394 00:23:50,562 --> 00:23:52,482 Those things take a certain amount of time 395 00:23:52,572 --> 00:23:55,492 and a certain amount of budgetary support in order to... 396 00:23:55,572 --> 00:23:58,632 Get them to work. They don't always work the first time. 397 00:23:58,702 --> 00:24:01,122 A squib is simply a detonator. 398 00:24:01,212 --> 00:24:04,132 But we placed the detonator in a tube 399 00:24:04,212 --> 00:24:06,132 that was filled with gunpowder. 400 00:24:06,212 --> 00:24:09,462 And that was placed inside a prophylactic which was filled with blood. 401 00:24:09,552 --> 00:24:12,422 So when the blast went off, the concussion blew 402 00:24:12,502 --> 00:24:15,922 the prophylactic and the blood from beneath the clothing. 403 00:24:16,012 --> 00:24:17,932 We're in this mall when the mall closes, 404 00:24:18,012 --> 00:24:19,932 the mall closes 9:30 or so. 405 00:24:20,012 --> 00:24:22,432 We start coming in around 8:00 to get set up and everything. 406 00:24:22,512 --> 00:24:25,932 We only have until 7:00 in the morning before we have to stop shooting, 407 00:24:26,022 --> 00:24:28,942 because we got to get all our stuff out when the mall opens. 408 00:24:29,022 --> 00:24:31,332 They'll be times in a particular night 409 00:24:31,402 --> 00:24:33,322 where we're shooting all over the script. 410 00:24:33,412 --> 00:24:36,452 It has to be done fast, because that all has to be done in seven hours. 411 00:24:39,032 --> 00:24:41,452 George is a wonderful guy. You can say to George... 412 00:24:41,532 --> 00:24:43,492 He'll be very cool... No expression on his face... 413 00:24:43,532 --> 00:24:46,452 You can say to him, "George I've got this fabulous idea, 414 00:24:46,542 --> 00:24:48,462 why don't we take a screwdriver... 415 00:24:50,792 --> 00:24:53,212 Say the maintenance man has a screwdriver on his belt, 416 00:24:53,292 --> 00:24:55,212 and have the maintenance man zombie attack scott. 417 00:25:06,192 --> 00:25:08,232 Scott pulls a screwdriver out of his bag 418 00:25:08,312 --> 00:25:12,122 and sticks it in the zombie's ear, shoves it in the brain. 419 00:25:13,952 --> 00:25:15,872 George will go "okay." 420 00:25:15,952 --> 00:25:18,372 You could say "George, how about if we get dragons 421 00:25:18,452 --> 00:25:20,362 coming out of the fountains in the mall?" 422 00:25:20,452 --> 00:25:23,372 I'm sure he'd go, "yeah, okay, yeah." You can't shake him. 423 00:25:23,462 --> 00:25:25,752 The first half of the shooting was very organized 424 00:25:25,832 --> 00:25:27,752 and there wasn't a great deal of improvisation 425 00:25:27,832 --> 00:25:30,632 because most of the big effects were done in the first part. 426 00:25:30,712 --> 00:25:32,882 The things George wrote in the script, we planned ahead. 427 00:25:32,972 --> 00:25:35,392 We knew exactly... We would stand in the office 428 00:25:35,472 --> 00:25:37,892 and he would walk the whole thing through and be a zombie, 429 00:25:37,972 --> 00:25:41,902 be the victim, be the helicopter. Very organized. 430 00:25:41,972 --> 00:25:43,892 This shoot's a little different. 431 00:25:43,982 --> 00:25:46,402 We've created characters on our own. 432 00:25:46,482 --> 00:25:50,402 I've created a character and a friend, a stunt-man's created a character. 433 00:25:50,482 --> 00:25:52,402 He's been developing those characters 434 00:25:52,482 --> 00:25:54,902 as we shoot... Day by day. 435 00:25:54,992 --> 00:25:58,412 So it's like really loose, this half of the shoot. 436 00:25:59,492 --> 00:26:01,412 And just as much fun. 437 00:26:01,492 --> 00:26:03,912 How many zombies are you making up a night? 438 00:26:04,002 --> 00:26:07,422 It depends on what we're doing in the script. 439 00:26:07,502 --> 00:26:10,422 Some nights we'll have 200, sometimes we'll have five. 440 00:26:10,502 --> 00:26:13,422 The nights we have five, they're the concentrated scenes 441 00:26:13,512 --> 00:26:15,432 between one lead, 442 00:26:15,512 --> 00:26:17,432 and we put five around him so it looks like 443 00:26:17,512 --> 00:26:20,432 a continuation of the 200 the day before. 444 00:26:20,512 --> 00:26:22,432 It depends, like I say, 445 00:26:22,512 --> 00:26:24,932 it depends on what's in the script for that night. 446 00:26:27,022 --> 00:26:29,442 Can you explain what you're doing right now? 447 00:26:29,522 --> 00:26:33,442 Okay, these are foam latex appliances I'm sticking on his face. 448 00:26:33,532 --> 00:26:36,452 These are zombies... Or people that have died in interesting ways... 449 00:26:36,532 --> 00:26:40,422 Or not interesting ways, just people who have died and come back to life. 450 00:26:40,502 --> 00:26:43,912 A lot of them look like car accident victims, 451 00:26:43,992 --> 00:26:45,912 cancer patients. 452 00:26:45,992 --> 00:26:49,412 One guy came in here in a three-piece suit, beautiful three-piece suit, 453 00:26:49,492 --> 00:26:51,402 so I made him up like a mortician would 454 00:26:51,492 --> 00:26:54,162 at a funeral parlor. And he was like "beautiful." 455 00:26:54,252 --> 00:26:56,172 Overly made-up with lipstick and all that. 456 00:26:56,252 --> 00:26:59,172 So he was walking around like a fresh one. 457 00:26:59,252 --> 00:27:02,922 Okay, you have to lean forward just a bit so I can powder all this. 458 00:27:03,012 --> 00:27:05,682 It'll probably get all over your shirt here. 459 00:27:05,762 --> 00:27:08,682 Others are people who have been bitten by other zombies 460 00:27:08,762 --> 00:27:10,672 and who have died and become zombies. 461 00:27:10,762 --> 00:27:12,682 And they're the ones that are the grossest. 462 00:27:12,772 --> 00:27:15,442 I don't know what happened to you... A car accident, 463 00:27:15,522 --> 00:27:17,442 zombie bit your face off or something like that. 464 00:27:17,522 --> 00:27:20,812 The fun of this thing is inventing all this stuff. 465 00:27:23,492 --> 00:27:25,912 Can you close your eyes? 466 00:27:26,002 --> 00:27:27,922 And I'm covering them with this stuff 467 00:27:28,002 --> 00:27:29,922 called rubber mask greasepaint. 468 00:27:30,002 --> 00:27:33,762 It's a greasepaint that has more castor oil in it. 469 00:27:33,842 --> 00:27:36,762 It keeps the rubber piece from drying out and changing color 470 00:27:36,842 --> 00:27:38,632 after the makeup has been on it for a while. 471 00:27:38,712 --> 00:27:40,682 You sculpt them in clay. You make a mold of them, 472 00:27:40,762 --> 00:27:44,182 and you pour foam latex in the mold... You bake it in an oven. 473 00:27:44,262 --> 00:27:47,182 I took a big photo tray and sculpted a zillion wounds, 474 00:27:47,272 --> 00:27:49,692 cast them... And I had those and I did another one... 475 00:27:49,772 --> 00:27:51,692 Cast them and I had those wounds. 476 00:27:51,772 --> 00:27:54,682 When I'm making a piece and I have foam latex left over, 477 00:27:54,772 --> 00:27:58,192 I'll pour it in one of these slabs, and I'll have extra wounds laying around. 478 00:27:58,282 --> 00:28:00,202 Are there any schools that teach that? 479 00:28:00,282 --> 00:28:02,202 No, not that I know of. I had to teach myself. 480 00:28:07,402 --> 00:28:10,322 The director must be a psychologist. 481 00:28:12,912 --> 00:28:15,832 He must also be a story-boarder, 482 00:28:15,912 --> 00:28:17,822 an editor... 483 00:28:17,912 --> 00:28:19,832 Linking the disparate sensibilities 484 00:28:19,922 --> 00:28:22,342 of cast and crew with his own vision. 485 00:28:22,422 --> 00:28:25,342 Okay, if it's straight up, we can do it with hands. 486 00:28:25,422 --> 00:28:28,342 Tom Savini, now on the other side of the camera, 487 00:28:28,422 --> 00:28:30,342 is about to assay a difficult stunt 488 00:28:30,432 --> 00:28:33,352 which will portray his demise onscreen. 489 00:28:33,432 --> 00:28:36,352 One can see under these specialized circumstances, 490 00:28:36,432 --> 00:28:39,352 Romero effortlessly fulfilling his ongoing roles 491 00:28:39,442 --> 00:28:42,362 as prime mover of the production. 492 00:28:42,442 --> 00:28:46,362 - Keep going, keep going. - Ready, Tom? 493 00:28:46,442 --> 00:28:50,492 Keep going... Okay, okay, good. 494 00:28:52,082 --> 00:28:54,862 - Hold on, Tom. - All set? 495 00:28:54,952 --> 00:28:56,862 - Any time. - Are you rolling? 496 00:28:56,952 --> 00:28:59,002 Stand by. You gonna go right there, Tom? 497 00:28:59,092 --> 00:29:02,012 Yeah, from here. 498 00:29:02,092 --> 00:29:05,622 - Ready, Mike? - Hold on. 499 00:29:05,712 --> 00:29:08,682 Do you have Shelby's hand in the light? 500 00:29:08,762 --> 00:29:10,182 Holding the bench on the left? 501 00:29:10,272 --> 00:29:13,272 - I can't see any bench. - Quiet, please. 502 00:29:19,362 --> 00:29:21,282 - Okay, Mike? - Beautiful. 503 00:29:21,362 --> 00:29:23,782 Out of sight, beautiful. 504 00:29:30,372 --> 00:29:32,792 What about the approach you're taking in directing it? 505 00:29:32,872 --> 00:29:34,782 I thought "Night of the Living Dead" 506 00:29:34,872 --> 00:29:37,792 was pretty tightly story-boarded. Is that true? 507 00:29:37,882 --> 00:29:40,802 It was and it wasn't. A lot of the sequences were, 508 00:29:40,882 --> 00:29:43,302 as a lot of the sequences in this film are. 509 00:29:43,382 --> 00:29:46,802 Oh, 'cause while we've been here, it seems very loose. 510 00:29:46,892 --> 00:29:49,812 It's been loose, but you've been here only for a few scenes too. 511 00:29:51,892 --> 00:29:53,802 Some of the scenes... 512 00:29:54,392 --> 00:29:57,812 As you watch the interlock I think, you'll find to be 513 00:29:57,902 --> 00:30:00,942 very, very close to the way that script is written. 514 00:30:01,022 --> 00:30:03,442 Story-boarding refers most commonly 515 00:30:03,522 --> 00:30:07,442 to a series of artists' renderings prepared in pre-production. 516 00:30:07,522 --> 00:30:12,042 In production, each shot will correspond to one of these sketches. 517 00:30:12,132 --> 00:30:13,532 George is a genius in that respect. 518 00:30:13,612 --> 00:30:15,532 He can memorize his own storyboards. 519 00:30:15,612 --> 00:30:17,532 He prepares them himself. 520 00:30:17,622 --> 00:30:20,542 And Chris, his A.D., has helped in that respect too. 521 00:30:20,622 --> 00:30:23,542 But he doesn't literally storyboard his shots. 522 00:30:23,622 --> 00:30:26,542 He's a very complex director. 523 00:30:26,632 --> 00:30:28,552 He likes to keep it to himself 524 00:30:28,632 --> 00:30:32,052 in terms of the actual story-boarding of blocking scenes. 525 00:30:32,132 --> 00:30:35,052 And he brings it with him to the set. That's his style. 526 00:30:35,132 --> 00:30:38,052 There are certain things that I want to happen 527 00:30:38,142 --> 00:30:40,562 that build on each other. 528 00:30:42,142 --> 00:30:45,062 In this film, the people starting to get 529 00:30:45,142 --> 00:30:47,062 tempted and attracted by the mall. 530 00:30:47,152 --> 00:30:49,572 And starting to get... 531 00:30:49,652 --> 00:30:54,572 Adopting the military approach to taking it over. 532 00:30:54,652 --> 00:30:58,572 And those are the things that I've tried to keep 533 00:30:58,662 --> 00:31:00,582 as close as possible to the script... 534 00:31:00,662 --> 00:31:03,582 The sequence when they go and get the trucks 535 00:31:03,662 --> 00:31:06,582 and block off the outside of the mall. 536 00:31:06,672 --> 00:31:09,092 Because there is a certain build 537 00:31:09,172 --> 00:31:11,592 that was written into the script, 538 00:31:11,672 --> 00:31:13,592 which I really think adds to... 539 00:31:16,182 --> 00:31:19,102 The overall flow of the suspense of the film. 540 00:31:21,682 --> 00:31:23,602 Martin. 541 00:31:26,822 --> 00:31:29,242 Here in a later scene from "Martin," 542 00:31:29,322 --> 00:31:31,352 Romero's modern vampire story, 543 00:31:31,442 --> 00:31:34,002 one can feel a tight pre-structured quality 544 00:31:34,082 --> 00:31:36,352 indicative of story-boarding. 545 00:31:38,532 --> 00:31:40,442 I had a copy of the script 546 00:31:40,532 --> 00:31:43,702 about a month and a half or two before we started shooting. 547 00:31:43,792 --> 00:31:46,462 And he already had it story-boarded to an extent. 548 00:31:54,132 --> 00:31:56,192 Martin. 549 00:31:59,602 --> 00:32:03,022 There's a lot of quick cuts of you creeping down hallways, 550 00:32:03,112 --> 00:32:05,532 and how would you hit your mark emotionally? 551 00:32:05,612 --> 00:32:08,532 I generally didn't worry about it emotionally. 552 00:32:08,612 --> 00:32:12,532 I was more interestedin hitting the mark... In being in the right place. 553 00:32:14,122 --> 00:32:15,542 Martin. 554 00:32:15,622 --> 00:32:18,042 Martin. 555 00:32:18,122 --> 00:32:20,042 Martin! 556 00:32:20,122 --> 00:32:22,292 Martin? 557 00:32:35,502 --> 00:32:38,302 - Who are you? - Oh my God. 558 00:32:38,392 --> 00:32:41,312 Look, let's not get excited about this now. 559 00:32:41,392 --> 00:32:44,812 There's no reason to get upset. 560 00:32:44,902 --> 00:32:46,322 I don't know him! 561 00:32:52,652 --> 00:32:55,572 Were the scenes very tightly blocked off? 562 00:32:55,662 --> 00:32:59,082 They weren't tightly blocked, but they were blocked. 563 00:32:59,162 --> 00:33:03,582 Because of being such an action scene, 564 00:33:03,672 --> 00:33:05,092 we had written blocking 565 00:33:05,172 --> 00:33:08,592 just as if we would work in a theater. 566 00:33:08,672 --> 00:33:10,582 Of course, "Martin" was a small shoot... 567 00:33:10,672 --> 00:33:14,202 Generally not more than eight people on the set in total. 568 00:33:14,292 --> 00:33:17,712 "Dawn" had, I think, 35 in staff and hundreds in actors. 569 00:33:17,802 --> 00:33:20,222 - Yeah, many nights, hundreds. - And his attention 570 00:33:20,302 --> 00:33:22,722 was being pulled away all too often. 571 00:33:22,802 --> 00:33:25,852 So he kept himself pretty much by himself during that. 572 00:33:25,942 --> 00:33:29,362 But his overall attitude with actors was pretty much the same. 573 00:33:29,442 --> 00:33:32,862 Your role in "Dawn" was on the other side of the camera. 574 00:33:32,942 --> 00:33:34,862 I was Casting Director. 575 00:33:34,952 --> 00:33:37,742 Mostly my job was recruiting zombies. 576 00:33:37,822 --> 00:33:40,742 Creative compromise is the name of the game in Filmmaking. 577 00:33:40,822 --> 00:33:43,742 Logistics of production force one to make decisions 578 00:33:43,822 --> 00:33:47,492 counter to the original concept, but ultimately beneficial. 579 00:33:47,582 --> 00:33:50,002 We were talking before about the fact 580 00:33:50,082 --> 00:33:53,502 that when he got to the mall, it had a different atmosphere 581 00:33:53,582 --> 00:33:56,502 than he already thought 582 00:33:56,592 --> 00:33:58,512 about "Dawn" having. 583 00:33:58,592 --> 00:34:01,512 The mall also brought a futuristic look to the film. 584 00:34:01,592 --> 00:34:03,762 It was so vast. 585 00:34:03,842 --> 00:34:06,262 The idea of the mall itself, 586 00:34:06,352 --> 00:34:10,272 the moment we see it, the moment we come in and see what it is, 587 00:34:10,352 --> 00:34:13,772 I think it's gonna become obvious 588 00:34:13,852 --> 00:34:15,772 in terms of what we're saying about 589 00:34:15,852 --> 00:34:20,272 the false security of consumer society. 590 00:34:20,362 --> 00:34:22,282 It's a great metaphor. 591 00:34:22,362 --> 00:34:24,272 It's a great set, too. 592 00:34:24,362 --> 00:34:26,282 - Great location, really. - Great location. 593 00:34:26,372 --> 00:34:28,792 We couldn't do it without a mall like this. 594 00:34:28,872 --> 00:34:30,792 We were really lucky to get it. 595 00:34:30,872 --> 00:34:33,792 How's it been working with it? Have there been problems? 596 00:34:33,872 --> 00:34:35,292 There have been a few problems... 597 00:34:35,372 --> 00:34:37,792 - Mainly technical? - Mainly technical. 598 00:34:37,882 --> 00:34:39,802 No real people problems at all. 599 00:34:39,882 --> 00:34:42,302 When I read it, I could easily picture the editing. 600 00:34:42,382 --> 00:34:44,792 I mean your style, between the angles. 601 00:34:44,882 --> 00:34:46,802 But I didn't picture the color designs 602 00:34:46,892 --> 00:34:49,812 - or what the mall would look like. - All of those influences... 603 00:34:49,892 --> 00:34:53,812 Everyone's attitude toward the thing, as well as my own desire, 604 00:34:53,892 --> 00:34:57,312 I think, to brighten things up... go more action adventure. 605 00:35:06,912 --> 00:35:09,082 First of all you're dealing, as I said, 606 00:35:09,162 --> 00:35:11,582 with 3-400 extras in some scenes, 607 00:35:11,662 --> 00:35:13,582 you're dealing with a shopping mall 608 00:35:13,662 --> 00:35:16,082 as our primary set, where their primary business 609 00:35:16,162 --> 00:35:18,082 is in fact selling consumer goods. 610 00:35:18,172 --> 00:35:21,092 And integrating what we want to do with the life of the mall 611 00:35:21,172 --> 00:35:23,982 has been an arduous and complicated task. 612 00:35:24,062 --> 00:35:25,982 There is no way to pay... 613 00:35:26,062 --> 00:35:28,982 Or let's say that there is, but it's way beyond our capacity to pay 614 00:35:29,062 --> 00:35:31,472 in dollar values what the use of the mall is worth. 615 00:35:31,562 --> 00:35:33,482 The people that own the shopping mall 616 00:35:33,572 --> 00:35:35,992 have been aesthetically attached to Filmmaking 617 00:35:36,072 --> 00:35:39,492 and they are getting enough money so it doesn't cost them anything 618 00:35:39,572 --> 00:35:41,602 to have us in here, 619 00:35:41,692 --> 00:35:45,622 which is an expensive proposition in itself. 620 00:35:45,692 --> 00:35:47,612 But in terms of looking at it, 621 00:35:47,702 --> 00:35:50,122 are they making a profit on our being involved with them? 622 00:35:50,202 --> 00:35:52,122 No, that's not the case. 623 00:35:52,202 --> 00:35:55,112 - What about insurance? - Insurance is a very costly item... 624 00:35:55,202 --> 00:35:58,722 Particularly where you're dealing in public places. 625 00:36:00,592 --> 00:36:03,512 If a little old lady tends to see a zombie, 626 00:36:03,602 --> 00:36:06,522 or happens to see a zombie wandering around with makeup 627 00:36:06,602 --> 00:36:09,142 and has a heart attack, that's a potential problem. 628 00:36:09,222 --> 00:36:12,392 I don't want to limit that to little old ladies, but anyone. 629 00:36:12,472 --> 00:36:15,392 So, yes the insurance... 630 00:36:15,472 --> 00:36:19,492 Tab on this particular picture is a substantial number. 631 00:36:19,982 --> 00:36:22,902 You all right? You okay? 632 00:36:22,982 --> 00:36:26,402 - - Yeah, I'm all right. - All right, Savini. 633 00:36:26,492 --> 00:36:29,412 All right, Savini. 634 00:36:34,392 --> 00:36:36,262 Obviously you can't light a place this size 635 00:36:36,342 --> 00:36:39,762 without spending a week to light it. 636 00:36:39,842 --> 00:36:42,762 We discussed doing the whole thing in one shot... 637 00:36:42,852 --> 00:36:45,272 Rehearsing 30 days and shoot it one day. 638 00:36:48,352 --> 00:36:50,272 So we have to keep it pretty low 639 00:36:50,352 --> 00:36:52,772 otherwise there would be really dead areas. 640 00:36:52,862 --> 00:36:55,782 The situation is not enough time, 641 00:36:55,862 --> 00:36:57,782 not enough lights 642 00:36:57,862 --> 00:37:00,782 and incredibly large spaces to deal with. 643 00:37:00,872 --> 00:37:05,292 And I think the large spaces and the fact that we're shooting 644 00:37:05,372 --> 00:37:08,292 a large number of angles on any given shot 645 00:37:08,372 --> 00:37:11,292 are the biggest problem. 646 00:37:11,382 --> 00:37:14,802 We'll do a setup, an initial setup and shoot one angle. 647 00:37:14,882 --> 00:37:18,302 And the director will immediately call for a reversal on it. 648 00:37:18,382 --> 00:37:21,802 Normally, that's not too big a problem, 649 00:37:21,892 --> 00:37:24,312 but in this case, one reversal might 650 00:37:24,392 --> 00:37:27,812 encompass 200 or 300 feet 651 00:37:27,892 --> 00:37:30,022 of mall area 652 00:37:30,112 --> 00:37:32,012 where you have background just to fill in, 653 00:37:32,102 --> 00:37:34,522 just to create touches to avoid black holes. 654 00:37:34,602 --> 00:37:38,022 Hotspots... There's glass everywhere creating reflections. 655 00:37:38,102 --> 00:37:41,022 My first reaction was total panic. 656 00:37:41,112 --> 00:37:43,032 I aggravated myself to death, 657 00:37:43,112 --> 00:37:45,912 because I really... I wanted it to be better. 658 00:37:45,992 --> 00:37:48,412 The initial shots were so big 659 00:37:48,502 --> 00:37:50,922 that I had to use every light 660 00:37:51,002 --> 00:37:53,422 to its absolute fullest amount. 661 00:37:53,502 --> 00:37:57,422 I couldn't skip a couple of sections 662 00:37:57,512 --> 00:37:59,932 and say, "I'll fill them in with another light." 663 00:38:00,012 --> 00:38:03,302 I had to know that between every 10 feet there had to be something, 664 00:38:03,382 --> 00:38:05,302 or every certain area there had to be 665 00:38:05,382 --> 00:38:07,302 a highlight or a spot. I had to know that. 666 00:38:07,382 --> 00:38:09,292 And I had to know exactly what it was. 667 00:38:09,382 --> 00:38:11,302 And I went back to my books 668 00:38:11,392 --> 00:38:13,312 and I read performance figures 669 00:38:13,392 --> 00:38:16,452 on every lamp that I have, and measured things 670 00:38:16,522 --> 00:38:18,942 and went through it over and over again. 671 00:38:19,032 --> 00:38:21,952 And finally it came out. 672 00:38:22,032 --> 00:38:24,952 We got the initial setup done and it worked. 673 00:38:25,032 --> 00:38:28,952 And I felt likeabout five million pounds was taken off of my head. 674 00:38:29,042 --> 00:38:31,962 While we're swinging with it on the very, very big shots 675 00:38:32,042 --> 00:38:34,462 right here, right now we're using a lot of tungsten. 676 00:38:34,542 --> 00:38:36,962 We're pushing one stop... 677 00:38:37,042 --> 00:38:39,962 And we're working with ease under that situation. 678 00:38:40,052 --> 00:38:42,972 For the very, very big shots we're pushing one again 679 00:38:43,052 --> 00:38:46,482 and using some zeiss... 680 00:38:46,552 --> 00:38:48,472 - Distagon. - Distagon lenses, 681 00:38:48,562 --> 00:38:52,982 with the 1.4 which gives us plenty of light to shoot under. 682 00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:55,520 So then the basis of this film for me 683 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,020 is to go in and set up areas, 684 00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:01,520 set a main source of light. 685 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,020 And that's not particularly a key light, it's a source of light, 686 00:39:05,110 --> 00:39:07,530 whether it be a lamp or ceiling light 687 00:39:07,610 --> 00:39:09,900 or a window light... Whatever it is. 688 00:39:09,980 --> 00:39:12,400 Then I sit back and I look at what's there 689 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,390 and build upon that. 690 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,900 A lot of the situations are available light, 691 00:39:16,990 --> 00:39:20,410 because it's the only possible way to shoot it. 692 00:39:20,490 --> 00:39:22,410 The shots are either too large 693 00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:25,290 or the movement is too fast to light. 694 00:39:25,380 --> 00:39:29,300 That's really the biggest problem is this time situation. 695 00:39:29,380 --> 00:39:32,300 We've managed by doing basically area lighting 696 00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:34,810 by bouncing a lot of light around 697 00:39:34,890 --> 00:39:36,810 creating natural effects. 698 00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:39,310 Not lighting to the shot, but lighting areas. 699 00:39:41,890 --> 00:39:44,430 - Let's go. - Okay, arrives at the column. 700 00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:46,930 Ricochets ready? 701 00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:49,940 Let's go for one more... Let's go for just one more shot. 702 00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:54,440 You have it in, and you come off with the big cocking action. 703 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,440 Fire 'em off the launch towards you. And then just hold. 704 00:39:57,530 --> 00:40:01,950 'Cause you can always hold in aiming mode when you realize that there's too many... 705 00:40:07,540 --> 00:40:10,960 Like you see more of them coming around the corner. 706 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,460 Ready, Mike? 707 00:40:17,550 --> 00:40:19,470 Quiet. 708 00:40:19,550 --> 00:40:20,970 - Sound? - Rolling. 709 00:40:21,050 --> 00:40:22,970 659, take 7. Sound 1343. 710 00:40:23,850 --> 00:40:27,280 I had never worked with any other director in terms of a feature. 711 00:40:27,350 --> 00:40:29,270 I know the reaction to George's style 712 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,780 as to how he'd get so many setups in one hour, 713 00:40:31,860 --> 00:40:34,780 while other directors might spend 3-4 hours on eight shots. 714 00:40:34,860 --> 00:40:37,530 Whereas George, I don't think, could ever do that. 715 00:40:37,610 --> 00:40:40,530 Yeah, we have discussed angles and style 716 00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:42,540 on a previous film we did called "Martin." 717 00:40:42,620 --> 00:40:46,290 We pretty much maintain that mood when we shoot horror stuff... 718 00:40:46,370 --> 00:40:48,650 Which is a lot of wide angle, 719 00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:50,290 low positions 720 00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:53,920 that accentuate the monster aspects 721 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,420 of the zombies or whatever. 722 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,020 That's pretty much it in terms of any adapted style 723 00:41:02,110 --> 00:41:05,510 which we have intensified in this film 724 00:41:05,590 --> 00:41:08,010 or any previous horror films which we've done. 725 00:41:10,980 --> 00:41:14,150 This film allows us to be a little more graceful, a little more beautiful 726 00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:17,010 with our photography because it's not simply a horror film. 727 00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:20,520 One of our worries was we were getting a little too far away from the horror genre. 728 00:41:20,610 --> 00:41:23,530 But I can help it along... I understand where he's going. 729 00:41:23,610 --> 00:41:26,530 I've worked with him enough that I understand his direction. 730 00:41:26,610 --> 00:41:30,030 George tends to set up scenes and then let them happen, 731 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,040 rather than being extremely precise 732 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,540 about every movement of every actor, 733 00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:36,530 and the delivery of every line. 734 00:41:36,620 --> 00:41:39,170 If he's not happy with the way it comes out the first time, 735 00:41:39,260 --> 00:41:42,180 he will do another take obviously. Mm-hmm. 736 00:41:42,260 --> 00:41:44,180 But, I think overall style-wise, 737 00:41:44,260 --> 00:41:45,680 I think that it's consistent. 738 00:41:45,770 --> 00:41:47,690 I think that it's a little more traditional 739 00:41:47,770 --> 00:41:50,690 in that he is using... how can I say... a more standard approach 740 00:41:50,770 --> 00:41:53,680 in terms of reverses and two-shots on dialogue and the like... 741 00:41:53,770 --> 00:41:55,690 Not a lot but somewhat. 742 00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:59,200 We shoot anywhere from 15-20 to one. 743 00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:08,710 Senores, please to let me pass. 744 00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:13,210 I cover conversations with the master. 745 00:42:13,290 --> 00:42:14,710 No, no, no, please. 746 00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:17,710 Just let me pass. 747 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,220 I go up to seventh floor find my sister. 748 00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:22,720 Then with single head shots on everybody involved. 749 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,720 People of 107 will do what you wish now. 750 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,220 These are simple people. They have little, 751 00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:30,230 but they do not give it up easily. 752 00:42:30,310 --> 00:42:32,230 And their dead they give up to no one. 753 00:42:32,310 --> 00:42:34,230 Not so much cutaways, 754 00:42:34,310 --> 00:42:36,230 in other words, I'll cut to all of the people 755 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,740 or I'll use people as their own cutaways. 756 00:42:38,820 --> 00:42:43,240 Many have died last week, on these streets. 757 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,740 In the basement of this building, you will find them. 758 00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:50,350 I have given them the last rites. 759 00:42:50,430 --> 00:42:53,340 Now, you do what you will. 760 00:42:53,830 --> 00:42:56,750 You are stronger than us, 761 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,260 but soon I think... 762 00:42:59,340 --> 00:43:01,260 They be stronger than you. 763 00:43:01,340 --> 00:43:03,750 And sometimes if I see a shot I like 764 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,260 I'll just go do it... Almost on whim. 765 00:43:06,350 --> 00:43:10,270 When the dead walk, Senores, 766 00:43:10,350 --> 00:43:12,270 we must stop the killing 767 00:43:12,350 --> 00:43:14,270 or lose the war. 768 00:43:20,980 --> 00:43:24,340 Out here, shooting, I don't really think too much about cutting, 769 00:43:25,110 --> 00:43:27,280 I'd rather let that happen too. 770 00:43:27,370 --> 00:43:30,290 Except in tightly choreographed sequences, like the truck scene 771 00:43:30,370 --> 00:43:33,290 where I know what's cutting to what. 772 00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:50,280 In this action scene 773 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,030 notice how he has isolated the three leads 774 00:43:53,110 --> 00:43:55,910 to better manipulate the visuals... 775 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,570 Close-ups, medium shots, 776 00:44:01,650 --> 00:44:02,650 long shots 777 00:44:06,610 --> 00:44:09,030 come on. Look, man. 778 00:44:09,110 --> 00:44:11,670 Visceral, disorienting angles, 779 00:44:11,740 --> 00:44:14,910 rhythm and tension potentials to be inherited 780 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,540 by himself on the editing table. 781 00:44:35,490 --> 00:44:39,910 The most celebrated shot in "Night" is this one. 782 00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:42,080 A close-up of one zombie gives way 783 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,000 to an extreme long shot of several of them. 784 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,450 And the film transforms into a vision of doom. 785 00:44:50,330 --> 00:44:53,050 A revelation in space, multiplies the horror 786 00:44:53,140 --> 00:44:55,560 far beyond our expectations. 787 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,420 As a spatial stylist, Romero is consistent. 788 00:45:00,510 --> 00:45:03,390 He is a master of spatial design. 789 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,400 I never really put it down to the use of space, 790 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,400 except that's what it is. 791 00:45:08,490 --> 00:45:10,410 It has to do with, uh... 792 00:45:10,490 --> 00:45:13,410 Again, it's just breaking from tradition. 793 00:45:13,490 --> 00:45:15,910 There are ways that you're supposed to shoot that... 794 00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:18,910 Involving screen direction and involving 795 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,920 a formal patternized kind of cutting, 796 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,420 which I just don't like. 797 00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:25,420 I think as part... if the scene is a tension-filled scene, 798 00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:28,420 or if it's a suspenseful scene or a very active scene 799 00:45:28,510 --> 00:45:30,430 which is meant to grate... 800 00:45:32,030 --> 00:45:34,080 Everything should grate. 801 00:45:42,670 --> 00:45:45,090 Get its head up! 802 00:45:45,170 --> 00:45:46,200 Get its head up! 803 00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:50,160 Roger, get its head up, man! 804 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,960 No matter how much you work with film, 805 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,950 it never ceases to amaze me how different it is 806 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,460 once it's up there, and you're watching all your footage. 807 00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:28,470 It's very hard to translate when you're on the set. 808 00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:31,470 You can't imagine what it's going to look like in two dimensions, 809 00:46:31,550 --> 00:46:33,960 up there that big with electronic amplification. 810 00:46:34,050 --> 00:46:36,470 But I don't think it's insecurity 811 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,980 to say, "I'm not sure how this going to work out, 812 00:46:39,060 --> 00:46:42,480 so we're going to shoot it another way. " That's just exploration. 813 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,980 A lot of film is like watercolor... It's a lot of accidents 814 00:46:45,060 --> 00:46:47,480 and it's learning how to control the accidents. 815 00:46:47,570 --> 00:46:50,110 That's where you need to just keep doing a lot of work. 816 00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:21,520 Goodbye, creep. 817 00:47:48,850 --> 00:47:50,770 The key creative force 818 00:47:50,850 --> 00:47:53,270 in post-production is the editor. 819 00:47:53,350 --> 00:47:55,760 Who, in this case, also happens to be the director. 820 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,640 There are a few scenes... Like a housing project scene 821 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:01,640 where we raid this housing project in the beginning, 822 00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:03,640 and there's this... 823 00:48:03,730 --> 00:48:06,650 There are a couple of families in the apartments there 824 00:48:06,930 --> 00:48:10,350 who come in and we're throwing them out of the housing project 825 00:48:10,430 --> 00:48:12,350 and various people are killed. 826 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,860 The way some of them are killed just make you go... 827 00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:16,860 Like that. 828 00:48:16,940 --> 00:48:19,360 And I saw some of the stuff being shot, the scenes, 829 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,860 but when he put it together it was, uh... 830 00:48:21,940 --> 00:48:25,360 I was riveted to the seat. I couldn't believe it. 831 00:48:25,450 --> 00:48:27,870 It was pretty powerful. 832 00:48:29,950 --> 00:48:31,870 Definitely not boring. 833 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,040 On the couch... Throw her on the couch. 834 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,120 - Come on. - Okay. 835 00:49:16,170 --> 00:49:18,090 It has been said that Romero 836 00:49:18,170 --> 00:49:20,590 doesn't allow us to look at his shots, 837 00:49:20,670 --> 00:49:23,590 rather his cutting forces us to experience them. 838 00:49:31,060 --> 00:49:33,730 This is as true of "Night"... 839 00:49:33,820 --> 00:49:35,740 No. No! 840 00:49:40,690 --> 00:49:42,110 No! 841 00:49:44,190 --> 00:49:46,860 As it is of "Martin"... 842 00:50:00,340 --> 00:50:02,260 As it is of "Dawn." 843 00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:15,640 Considering that quick cutting will wear an audience down emotionally, 844 00:50:15,730 --> 00:50:17,170 it is remarkable that he can maintain 845 00:50:17,230 --> 00:50:19,530 such a level of tension in his films. 846 00:50:19,610 --> 00:50:23,030 They contain almost twice as many cuts as any other directors'. 847 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,410 He conceptualizes, by doing takes, 848 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,650 exactly what he needs, and he's very efficient with his shots. 849 00:50:28,740 --> 00:50:30,540 Some call it choppy, or some call it heavy-handed 850 00:50:30,620 --> 00:50:32,540 in terms of the editorial style. 851 00:50:46,420 --> 00:50:48,340 Hey, Dick! 852 00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:51,350 Hello. 853 00:50:55,930 --> 00:50:59,730 George's commercial background, if you will, 854 00:50:59,820 --> 00:51:03,240 has set the tone for his cutting, 855 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,740 that he has a commercial reel that I think is slick 856 00:51:06,830 --> 00:51:08,750 as anybody out of New York or Los Angeles. 857 00:51:08,830 --> 00:51:12,750 Mellon bank and U.S. Steel and Rockwell and Heinz... 858 00:51:12,830 --> 00:51:15,750 And he used to make very, very slick 30-second commercials. 859 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,260 And he learned the discipline 860 00:51:17,340 --> 00:51:20,260 whereby you have to say something quickly, concisely 861 00:51:20,340 --> 00:51:21,760 and get the message across. 862 00:51:23,810 --> 00:51:26,220 What happens when a Calgon research team 863 00:51:26,300 --> 00:51:28,350 and their submarine are reduced to micro-size 864 00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:31,430 and sent on a dangerous mission deep inside a washing machine? 865 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,430 Engines reversed full, captain. We're stuck. 866 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,940 We've got to find out what's on those fibers. 867 00:51:40,030 --> 00:51:42,450 Trapped in the fibers of a giant t-shirt 868 00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:46,450 the Calgonauts discover secrets of gray dull-looking laundry. 869 00:51:46,530 --> 00:51:50,060 - Why, it feels like... - Leftover detergent film. 870 00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:52,780 The fibers are covered with this stuff. 871 00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:55,290 This box has never been opened. 872 00:51:55,370 --> 00:51:58,040 Add the Calgon. You'll thrill as Calgon 873 00:51:58,130 --> 00:52:00,800 dissolves the dirty leftover detergent film. 874 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,400 It's working. The gray is gone. 875 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,000 The fibers are clean. 876 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,500 - Let's get out of here. - I think I'm in love with you. 877 00:52:08,590 --> 00:52:10,890 If you're tired of dull detergent films 878 00:52:10,970 --> 00:52:14,390 and grade-b washes, thrill to the Calgon story. 879 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,900 At your nearby family washing machine. 880 00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:21,399 This has been transposed into his feature editing, 881 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,310 so that there is very rarely a let up in the action. 882 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,320 I don't think there are very many shots 883 00:52:26,410 --> 00:52:28,330 that last four or five seconds on screen. 884 00:52:28,410 --> 00:52:31,830 There are not thoselong, long camera moves... That's true. 885 00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:33,820 Revolving around. All George would do 886 00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:36,830 would cut them up if Mike did them. 887 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,340 I shoot a lot, 888 00:52:40,420 --> 00:52:43,840 because I know that I can make the decisions later 889 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,840 on the cutting table. 890 00:52:45,930 --> 00:52:48,850 So I wind up shooting a lot of material that I fall in love with, 891 00:52:48,930 --> 00:52:51,850 and I really like. And there's economically no room for it 892 00:52:51,930 --> 00:52:54,850 in the final piece. So it's harder. 893 00:52:54,930 --> 00:52:56,850 And it's very hard... When I sit down and I say 894 00:52:56,940 --> 00:52:58,860 "okay, here are 10 scenes that I like, 895 00:52:58,940 --> 00:53:01,860 which two are the least needed?" 896 00:53:01,940 --> 00:53:04,860 It's really... That's a very difficult process for me. 897 00:53:04,940 --> 00:53:06,860 And I think that's where all of your bias comes in... 898 00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:08,870 And all of your emotions. 899 00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:11,370 It's very difficult. It's a lot easier to edit 900 00:53:11,450 --> 00:53:13,860 when you're upfront... When you're writing it. 901 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,880 There's a lot of people that work with a formula 902 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,380 in terms of when to use the master, when to go in and all that. 903 00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:24,880 And people will say that's very shattering 904 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,880 if you don't follow some kind of a pattern 905 00:53:26,970 --> 00:53:30,890 or if there isn't some kind of an expected cutting pace 906 00:53:30,970 --> 00:53:32,890 that people can relax and get comfortable with. 907 00:53:32,970 --> 00:53:34,890 I don't think that's true at all. 908 00:53:34,970 --> 00:53:37,890 I don't think people notice cuts... If they're well done. 909 00:53:37,980 --> 00:53:40,900 If they're not shattering or jarring, you don't notice them at all. 910 00:53:40,980 --> 00:53:43,400 There's a sequence in "Martin," for example, 911 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,400 which could have been just the murder sequence, 912 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,780 but it's elongated as far as I thought it could be elongated. 913 00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:52,290 - Emergency, now call 911. - I can't call 911, that's the police... 914 00:53:52,380 --> 00:53:54,300 It's not, it's a general emergency number! 915 00:53:56,380 --> 00:53:59,300 Some actions are mundane... Dealing with the telephones. 916 00:53:59,380 --> 00:54:02,800 Call the hospital. Tell them what happened. We'll be there in five minutes. 917 00:54:02,890 --> 00:54:05,390 All those actions, no matter how mundane, 918 00:54:05,470 --> 00:54:07,880 become interesting when you look at them in a certain way. 919 00:54:07,970 --> 00:54:11,390 - I don't know the number. - Call information. Get the number... call them. 920 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,350 They're all part of the overall action that's going on. 921 00:54:14,430 --> 00:54:16,740 And they help to build a certain amount of suspense, 922 00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:19,240 because they are things that we deal with every day. 923 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,610 Shit! It's fucked up. Wait a minute. 924 00:54:22,690 --> 00:54:25,610 I gotta do it again. 925 00:54:25,690 --> 00:54:29,110 I can't get through. I forgot the number. 926 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,620 Wait... 927 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,120 I don't like sloughing sequences off. 928 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,120 I don't like car chases that don't do anything. 929 00:54:39,210 --> 00:54:42,630 Because within a fight in this room 930 00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:45,130 that encompasses three punches being thrown. 931 00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:49,020 Lewis! 932 00:54:49,100 --> 00:54:51,520 Move aside, you bastard... 933 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,260 I'm not talking about a big brawl. 934 00:54:53,350 --> 00:54:56,270 You could do a three-punch fight 935 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,280 and make it last five minutes. 936 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,280 'Cause everything is valid and everything is information. 937 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,020 And I like to deal with detail. 938 00:55:08,620 --> 00:55:10,540 And I'd like to just go with a visual, 939 00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:13,040 almost a cubist look at that. 940 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,650 And that's another place where I'll shoot a lot of film. 941 00:55:15,740 --> 00:55:18,160 Get away from me! Stop! 942 00:55:24,250 --> 00:55:28,180 What did you do to me? 943 00:55:34,260 --> 00:55:36,680 I use a lot of sound elements. 944 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,680 And I cut, rather thanon a flatbed, on a table with a synchronizer. 945 00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:42,190 And there's a certain kind of tactile thing 946 00:55:42,270 --> 00:55:44,070 that I get into in terms of the tracks. 947 00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:48,070 It's a visual almost checker-boarding of the tracks. 948 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,080 I don't use film as leader. I always use white, 949 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,080 because I like to see 950 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,580 that white-brown juxtaposition of the tracks. 951 00:55:55,660 --> 00:55:57,830 I like to lay the tracks across on a table. 952 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,840 You can almost visualize how the track is working. 953 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,840 And I use a lot of track. 954 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,840 And when I do my first cut, I don't just cut picture-voice. 955 00:56:05,930 --> 00:56:08,850 I cut with some kind of music 956 00:56:08,930 --> 00:56:11,850 and with effects... 957 00:56:11,930 --> 00:56:14,850 You use pre-recorded music to get the rhythms? 958 00:56:14,930 --> 00:56:16,850 Yeah, to get some kind of rhythm going... 959 00:56:16,940 --> 00:56:18,860 Until I find a rhythm going. 960 00:56:18,940 --> 00:56:20,860 And I wind up with a lot of tracks 961 00:56:20,940 --> 00:56:22,860 for a small independent. 962 00:56:22,940 --> 00:56:26,360 I've seen studio productions where they get into 30-40 tracks, 963 00:56:26,450 --> 00:56:30,370 but that's just because they're too lazy to lay them in sometimes. 964 00:56:30,450 --> 00:56:34,370 I use 12-15 tracks. 965 00:56:34,450 --> 00:56:38,370 And I like a lot of sound. I hate dead air. 966 00:56:38,460 --> 00:56:40,380 I'll always use some kind of an ambiance 967 00:56:40,460 --> 00:56:43,380 and a lot of music, 968 00:56:43,460 --> 00:56:45,380 which is just all form stuff. 969 00:56:45,460 --> 00:56:48,380 Some people say that my tracks are too driving 970 00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:50,390 or too full, 971 00:56:50,470 --> 00:56:53,890 but that's just personal preference. 972 00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:05,520 In summary, this sequence from "Dawn" 973 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,020 clearly demonstrates Romero's style, 974 00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:11,650 conceptualized in the screenplay stage... 975 00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:16,160 Given substance during shooting... 976 00:57:18,750 --> 00:57:20,170 And given shape in the editing. 977 00:57:44,820 --> 00:57:46,690 We don't make distributions arrangements 978 00:57:46,780 --> 00:57:49,200 till after we finish a picture. 979 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,200 Not wanting to have too many fingers in the pie too soon, 980 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,200 not wanting to compromise from ground zero. 981 00:57:56,290 --> 00:57:59,710 Eventually we may have to make some compromises on a business level, 982 00:57:59,790 --> 00:58:01,710 but at least they start later. 983 00:58:01,790 --> 00:58:05,210 And we've finished the picture so it's a matterof maybe taking something out. 984 00:58:05,290 --> 00:58:07,710 This statement was made during production 985 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,720 and carried with it an ominous note which reverberated for over a year 986 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,220 as Romero fought for a strong vision. 987 00:58:15,300 --> 00:58:18,970 It stood as a thorn in the side of negotiations with distributors 988 00:58:19,060 --> 00:58:22,480 even after "Dawn" opened to tremendous business in Europe. 989 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,340 Finally a breakthrough was achieved. 990 00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:27,790 We made a couple of errors in signing the distribution deal 991 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,300 with "Night of the Living Dead" 992 00:58:30,390 --> 00:58:34,310 in that we sold, or we'd signed a distribution deal worldwide. 993 00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:37,810 We didn't hold out any rights... television, Canada, Europe... nothing. 994 00:58:37,890 --> 00:58:42,310 16mm... nothing. We gave the distributor the world. 995 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,070 Basically, I didn't know anything then... 996 00:58:45,150 --> 00:58:48,570 About the business side of things and about how to draw a contract. 997 00:58:48,650 --> 00:58:52,070 Now, knowing what I know now, 998 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,580 you want to ask for as many of those controls 999 00:58:54,660 --> 00:58:56,970 as you can possibly get your hands on. 1000 00:58:57,050 --> 00:58:58,970 When you have a smash-hit film out in theaters, 1001 00:58:59,050 --> 00:59:00,970 your 16mm rights are going to be worth a lot. 1002 00:59:01,050 --> 00:59:03,220 Television rights will be worth a lot. 1003 00:59:03,300 --> 00:59:05,720 So principally I would say that... 1004 00:59:05,810 --> 00:59:07,730 Hold for as much as you can hold out for. 1005 00:59:07,810 --> 00:59:11,680 There were a number of people that offered us substantial amounts of money 1006 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,170 to deliver an R-rated film which meant, 1007 00:59:14,260 --> 00:59:17,180 we anticipated, cutting the guts out of the movie... 1008 00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:19,190 In order to get that "R." 1009 00:59:19,270 --> 00:59:23,190 We looked for a distributor who recognized, as we did, 1010 00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:25,190 that the best economic course of action 1011 00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:27,190 was to leave the film untampered 1012 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,200 even though that created other problems. 1013 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,700 It created the potential problem 1014 00:59:30,780 --> 00:59:32,700 of a newspaper not taking the ad. 1015 00:59:32,780 --> 00:59:34,700 It created the problem 1016 00:59:34,780 --> 00:59:38,200 of a TV station not running a commercial, 1017 00:59:38,290 --> 00:59:41,210 a certain theater not playing the film. 1018 00:59:41,290 --> 00:59:45,710 We believed that ultimately economically those problems would cost less 1019 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,220 and we would make more if the film was left as George wanted it. 1020 00:59:50,300 --> 00:59:52,720 Several of the distributors that wanted it badly 1021 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,720 understanding the problems... For example with the MPAA, here in this country... 1022 00:59:56,810 --> 01:00:00,230 That the mpaa would probably "X" the film. 1023 01:00:00,310 --> 01:00:02,730 And the only way to get an "R" would be to cut it. 1024 01:00:02,810 --> 01:00:05,730 So I wound up holding out during the negotiations 1025 01:00:05,820 --> 01:00:08,740 and luckily Richard backed me up all the way on this, 1026 01:00:08,820 --> 01:00:12,240 because there were a couple of times when it would have been easier 1027 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,240 to take a deal... Would have been financially easier to take a deal. 1028 01:00:16,330 --> 01:00:20,250 That's the other thing... I think that Richard and I have had a good relationship. 1029 01:00:20,330 --> 01:00:23,750 So I don't have to worry about my own internal team. 1030 01:00:23,830 --> 01:00:28,250 And that's big... Number one. 1031 01:00:28,340 --> 01:00:31,260 Having Richard's support, I was just able to sit there 1032 01:00:31,340 --> 01:00:33,750 and say "look, I'm not gonna cut the picture." 1033 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,840 When the distributor took his stance to put the picture out unrated, 1034 01:00:36,930 --> 01:00:39,850 it's not that he wasn't accepting the restrictions of an "X"... 1035 01:00:39,930 --> 01:00:41,730 Because he's putting a flag on it that says 1036 01:00:41,820 --> 01:00:45,240 no one under 17 will be admitted. Forget with a parent, 1037 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,740 not at all... And he's accepting those restrictions. 1038 01:00:48,820 --> 01:00:51,740 What he's not accepting is the symbol itself, the "X," 1039 01:00:51,830 --> 01:00:53,750 because the "X" does automatically 1040 01:00:53,830 --> 01:00:56,750 say to most people in America that this picture is obscene. 1041 01:00:56,830 --> 01:00:59,250 For a major company in the industry 1042 01:00:59,340 --> 01:01:02,760 to release a film without a rating is a major break. 1043 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,760 And that was something that was long and hard in finding. 1044 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,090 We basically are in agreement with a system which flags movies 1045 01:01:09,180 --> 01:01:10,600 and tells people what they're gonna see. 1046 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,440 Our point is, there should not be economic penalties attached to that. 1047 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,440 I also had to fight... You always have to fight for things like length. 1048 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,440 Usually with an exploitation picture, a distributor will say 1049 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,940 "It's terrific and I love it, but cut it to 90 minutes." 1050 01:01:24,030 --> 01:01:26,450 Once again, there's no secret. 1051 01:01:26,530 --> 01:01:28,450 I can't teach you how to get 1052 01:01:28,530 --> 01:01:31,440 the kind of controls that enable you to leave your picture longer... 1053 01:01:31,530 --> 01:01:34,950 Or to have that kind of creative cut. It's a matter of holding out for it 1054 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,460 and not selling until somebody gives it to you. 1055 01:01:37,540 --> 01:01:41,460 And I was able to do that partially because of my reputation, 1056 01:01:41,540 --> 01:01:44,460 but partially just because I sat there and said no. 1057 01:01:46,050 --> 01:01:47,970 And there were a couple of sticky times 1058 01:01:48,050 --> 01:01:50,970 when people would get up from the negotiating table and walk and go home. 1059 01:01:51,050 --> 01:01:53,970 You got to sit through them, those are the toughest times. 1060 01:01:54,060 --> 01:01:57,230 You gotta sit through that and say "okay, see you tomorrow"... hopefully. 1061 01:01:57,310 --> 01:01:59,230 And we did see them tomorrow and they ultimately 1062 01:01:59,310 --> 01:02:01,530 said "okay, it can be your cut." 1063 01:02:02,218 --> 01:02:04,798 Adam, let me give you something you might want to use. 1064 01:02:04,888 --> 01:02:07,238 - Okay, keep it going. - Just roll for a second. 1065 01:02:07,328 --> 01:02:10,618 I think that there are very few directors 1066 01:02:10,698 --> 01:02:14,118 that have total, final, real last cut on their movies. 1067 01:02:14,198 --> 01:02:18,248 I say that when they tell you that these are the rules for the system 1068 01:02:18,338 --> 01:02:20,258 and you can't do it another way, 1069 01:02:20,338 --> 01:02:23,258 they're not correct. It can be done other ways. 1070 01:02:23,338 --> 01:02:25,258 You can maintain control of your product. 1071 01:02:25,348 --> 01:02:28,268 I'm not saying it's easy, but it can be done. 1072 01:02:28,348 --> 01:02:30,268 You don't have to be in New York or Hollywood 1073 01:02:30,348 --> 01:02:33,768 in order to produce films, to get attention. 1074 01:02:33,848 --> 01:02:35,768 I think we're the proof of that. 1075 01:02:35,858 --> 01:02:38,278 I would be as encouraging as possible 1076 01:02:38,358 --> 01:02:40,778 to people to do what everybody else 1077 01:02:40,858 --> 01:02:43,778 says you can't do. 1078 01:05:34,092 --> 01:05:36,172 So, "Night of the Living Dead" is the beginning 1079 01:05:36,262 --> 01:05:38,182 and this is the end? 1080 01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:40,150 - This is the middle. - This is the middle? 1081 01:05:40,272 --> 01:05:43,092 - Is there room for more? - There's plenty of room for more. 1082 01:05:43,193 --> 01:05:45,203 Zombies are still dumb. 89369

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