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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,199 (CROWD CHEERING) 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,519 (PLAYING METAL ON METAL) 3 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,639 # Metal on metal 4 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,719 # Feeling the grind 5 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,639 # Up go the hammers 6 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,879 # A victim to find 7 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,879 # Metal on metal 8 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,959 # Heads start to bang 9 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,919 # Denim and leathers, chains that clang # 10 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,039 Come on, now! 11 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,079 # Keep on rockin' 12 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,119 # To this metal tonight 13 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,159 # Keep on pounding 14 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,279 # Join the heavy metal fight # 15 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,359 MALCOLM DOME: / remember the first time / heard Metal On Metal. 16 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,599 You gotta hear it. It's so heavy. It's heavier than anything you've ever heard. 17 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,759 When Anvil first showed up on the scene, it was like, "Fuck! 18 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,759 "This is cool. This is a statement." 19 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,639 Like, literally, these guys are going to turn the music world upside down. 20 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,959 Seeing them was like a challenge to us to say, 21 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,679 "Well, if we can't be better than that, then we should just go home." 22 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,759 # Metal on metal # 23 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,759 All the people back from stage! 24 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,599 # Metal on metal # 25 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,279 They're a great band, yeah. I always liked Anvil. They got my vote. 26 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,159 If you actually had to choose one band and one album 27 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,079 that really started the whole ball rolling, 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,319 it would be Meta/ On Meta/ and it would be Anvil. 29 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,439 The minute you heard Anvil, the minute you heard the music, 30 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,599 the minute you saw the pictures, the minute you heard the story, 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,799 you could tell that this was the real deal. 32 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,919 (HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING) 33 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,959 Anvil was one of those bands that just put on this really amazing live performance. 34 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,199 Lips, the singer, used to come out with this bondage harness on 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,679 and he used to come out with this dildo and play his Flying V. 36 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,519 I mean, it was just complete insanity, 37 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,039 and that's why it was such a huge turn-on for us kids. 38 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,159 It was like something we'd never seen before. 39 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,119 (PLAYING SOLO) 40 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,159 They were thrash, man. They were a fast band. 41 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,599 And you're talking about a year before the big four, 42 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,159 Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax and Megadeth. 43 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,399 There's a certain sound that comes from that album 44 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:51,439 that has become one of the basic formulas for any heavy metal record made today. 45 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:55,759 We were talking about Robb Reiner, like, 46 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,719 he was by far the best metal drummer out there, in terms of his ability. 47 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,599 He was the guy. There was a "holy shit". 48 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,919 They were all good. There wasn't a bad guy in the band. 49 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,519 They were all great at what they did. 50 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,639 They should have made it a lot bigger. I don't really understand the reason why. 51 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,079 Sometimes life deals you a tough deck. 52 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,079 I don't know what happened. Why did they just fall off the radar? 53 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,559 I really have no idea. 54 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:22,399 You have to be at the right place at the right time. That's the whole thing. 55 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,639 If you're not at the right place at the right time, you will never do it. 56 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,279 I don't know if there was an isolation thing 57 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,039 because of the Canadian element, or whatever, 58 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,079 but something didn't translate all the way up to the next level. 59 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,479 They never really got the respect that they deserved after a while 60 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,519 because, as big as an influence as they had on everybody, 61 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,159 everybody just sort of ripped them off and then, sort of, just left them for dead. 62 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:15,599 This is where it begins. Basically, it's 7:00. I'm not sure what they're serving up today. 63 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,919 It's probably, I don't know. 64 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,159 From week to week, it slightly changes. 65 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,879 Every day it's a different menu but in different orders. 66 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:30,839 Let's say one week they have pizza, shepherd's pie, 67 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,759 and then the next week they'll have shepherd's pie, then pizza. 68 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:40,359 You know, put it out of order, out of the order from the week before. 69 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,439 If they happen to make shepherd's pie or something like that, 70 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,839 this week they'll make meatloaf next week on that day. 71 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:53,559 They'll rally between meatloaf and shepherd's pie 72 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,999 or meatballs with mashed potatoes. You know, just depends. 73 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,879 (PEOPLE CHATTING) 74 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,839 - I can't believe it. You're so cynical. - Where's the 20 bucks? 75 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,319 LIPS: Today is a Monday schedule, which is, 76 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,199 they have to put bananas in all the deliveries. 77 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:25,239 You see, there's 10 racks, 10 routes, 10 vans, 10 drivers 78 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,039 and I'm one of those 10 drivers. 79 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,559 For all this horrible shit that I've got to go through, 80 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,079 I've got Anvil that gives me my happiness and it works out really good, 81 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,039 because even though Anvil doesn't give me pay, 82 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,559 it gives me the joy and the pleasure that you need to get through life. 83 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:50,079 The way I look at it, really, is that it could never be worse than what it already is. 84 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,079 If it never got better, that's the way it is. You see what I'm saying? 85 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,039 So, the only way that it could really... It could only get better. 86 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,239 It can't get worse from whatever's going to happen. There's no way. 87 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:08,599 But, on the other hand, if it did get worse, at least, this time, after all's said and done, 88 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,399 I can say that all has been said and done. 89 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,879 Instead of, "I've left a whole bunch of things undone 90 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,479 "and I wasn't able to do that and I couldn't do this 91 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,999 "and I didn't do that and I should have been this way 92 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,919 "and I could have been that way." 93 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:26,279 At least, this time, I'll do everything that it possibly takes to get there. 94 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,039 To make the success happen and feel it from internally this time. 95 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,079 (DRILLING) 96 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,319 - MAN: How's it going with the band, man? - Great, man. We're writing our new album. 97 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,479 (LAUGHS) 98 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,999 Fuck, I'd rather be on a stage than doing this, you know. 99 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,319 At the moment, it gives me purpose. 100 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,159 It's part of my psychoactive therapy sessions. 101 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,599 And my doctor says I'm doing well, you know. 102 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,559 So, that's it. But, yeah, give me another stage and another party 103 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,599 and I'm really happy. 104 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,639 (DRUMS PLAYING) 105 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,519 (CHEERING) 106 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,919 LIPS: I love to entertain. It's part... It's in my soul. 107 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,599 Nothing is like being in the face of your fans. 108 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,999 There's a moment, and there are actual beautiful moments, 109 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,879 human moments, where you're actually, 110 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,279 you're in the same room as the people that love you. 111 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,399 MAN: Yeah! 112 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,239 Hello there, Toronto! 113 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,399 MAN: Yeah! 114 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,799 (METAL ON METAL PLAYING) 115 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,399 # Keep on rockin' to this metal tonight 116 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,879 # Keep on rockin' Keep on rockin' # 117 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:59,199 Robb, he's come over to my place so many times delivering CDs, T-shirts. 118 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,959 Yeah, Robb's been amazing, for sure. 119 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,639 They wrote a tune after him and me, Cut Loose and Mad Dog. 120 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:11,759 # I'm just a mad, bad dog # 121 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,639 (CHUCKLING) 122 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,119 (BOTH HOWLING) 123 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,879 I've gone to probably two or three hundred shows of Anvil. 124 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,999 We've been to Oshawa, Sudbury, we used to travel with them. 125 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,239 It's an outlet, why not? People do other bad things in life. 126 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,559 It's a good outlet, metal. 127 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,519 (ALL CHANTING) 128 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,079 Yeah, to my dying day, the metal for sure. 129 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,119 "I'd rather be a king below than a servant above. 130 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,559 "I'd rather be free and hate than a prisoner of love. 131 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:48,199 "Six, six, oh, six. Six." 132 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,959 (EXCLAIMING) 133 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,079 (CROWD CHEERING) 134 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,159 This is going to be the best birthday I've ever had. 135 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,599 Something like that. 136 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:00,319 (CROWD CHEERING) 137 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,879 REINER: The tunes that we have for the upcoming album 138 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,959 are fucking, like, unbelievable. 139 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,319 The feels, the riffs, the grooves, the lyrics, pure, fucking magic. 140 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,959 (HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING) 141 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,519 LIPS: Most people only know us for our first three albums, 142 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,719 Hard 'N' Heavy, Metal On Metal and Forged In Fire. 143 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,439 But there's a lot of other stuff, 144 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,879 like Backwaxed, Strength Of Steel, Pound For Pound, 145 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,799 Live Past Or Present, Worth The Weight, Plugged In Permanent, 146 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,759 Absolutely No Alternative, Speed Of Sound, Plenty Of Power, 147 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,999 Still Going Strong and Back To Basics. 148 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:44,159 Me, Lips, we put this band together about five years ago, 149 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,679 but we've been playing together in a band since we were 15, 16 years old. 150 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,399 - This is where we learnt how to play. - Yeah. 151 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:54,199 Yeah, this is a lot of the beginnings of our whole friendship, 152 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,319 our relationship with the band and life. It all happened here. 153 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,159 Every day on the way home from school I hear this blasting music 154 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,039 coming from that window right there. 155 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,119 Whoever's playing to this music is playing tight. It's a drummer. 156 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,799 It's fucking, like, six shits coming out of their eyes. 157 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,879 Anyway, I meet this guy in my biology class and he goes, 158 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,999 "Hey, man, I'm going to get this guy, Robb Reiner. 159 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,719 "He lives over at the corner of the Almans'." 160 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,759 All I could see was this speaker that was sitting in the window 161 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:28,479 and heavy music like either Sabbath or Grand Funk or Cactus, 162 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:30,999 a lot of Cactus. The guy really liked Cactus. And I go... 163 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,719 (CAR HONKING) 164 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,319 "Who could possibly like Cactus?" 165 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,839 We had one that we wrote called The Lola Song 166 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,119 and it had nothing to do with the song by The Kinks. 167 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,679 The Lolas were a little frozen kind of treat and it was called the Lola 168 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,639 and we liked them so much we wrote a song about them. 169 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,279 LIPS: We were just innocent kids. We didn't really know what we were doing. 170 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,519 We just started rocking out and making this music. 171 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,959 (PLAYING SCHOOL LOVE) 172 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,159 # Out in the school yard Little peaches play 173 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,719 # Rubbing their beaves Got a lot to say # 174 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,679 (APPLAUSE) 175 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:07,999 Today on Shirley, 176 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,319 "Sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll, what's it doing to our kids?" 177 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:19,199 Now, let me read some lyrics from a song called Toe Jam by the group Anvil. 178 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,799 "Dig a little deeper, hip your partner, make her shout, 179 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,759 "back to front, side to side, tip your cap and come inside, 180 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:33,839 "down with her fishnets, up with her skirt, dig a little deeper, till you hit pay dirt." 181 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,799 (ALL LAUGHING) 182 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,719 As soon as he met Robb, Robb is a drummer, 183 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,799 and Steven wouldn't continue school. 184 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,559 He wasn't gonna... He gave up school. 185 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,799 Old Pancer's, home of the corned beef sandwich. 186 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,759 I think the first song we ever wrote 187 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,079 - was called Thumb Hang. - Thumb Hang. Yeah. 188 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,319 We were trying to write a song about the Spanish Inquisition. 189 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,479 We learnt about it in history class. They would hang people up by their thumbs 190 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:11,719 if they didn't take on Catholicism. 191 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,999 So, you know, I figured, "Hey, there's a cool subject. Thumb hang." 192 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,239 (HUMMING) 193 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,039 # Thumbs will twist 194 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,359 # Can you resist? 195 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:34,919 # Thumb hang # 196 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,719 Fuck, we should be doing that again. 197 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,479 - They're like brothers. - DROID: They're like brothers. 198 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:41,039 I mean, it would be... 199 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,519 I think it would be like splitting Siamese twins, really. 200 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,119 They've just always been very tight. 201 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,039 What, they've been around for almost 30 years now. 202 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,919 And it's just amazing how they're going to keep on going and going and going. 203 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,039 They're never going to stop. 204 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,559 You have to structure your life around it, I guess. 205 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,679 You know, we changed our wedding date for it. 206 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,599 Averey was born the Friday before he went away on the tour, 207 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:07,959 we kind of got him started. 208 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,839 You know, "Gotta have this baby now, he's leaving." 209 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,279 - MAN: What does your dad do for a living? - He's in a band. 210 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,119 - What's the name of the band? - Anvil. 211 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,879 - What do you think of them? - Pretty good. 212 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,559 LIPS: The band has been around so long, it's not like a band that just got reunited. 213 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,839 We're in shape, we're in playing shape, we're in writing shape. 214 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,959 It's not like we let it fall apart and then we're trying to rebuild it. 215 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,839 We've been building it all along and working at it. 216 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,759 I think it's probably got more potential now than it ever has. 217 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,799 It's been an honour and a thrill to be in this band for 10 years. 218 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,319 And there was moments when I wondered, "Is this the right place for me, or is this... 219 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,759 "Am I... Are there other opportunities for me out there?" 220 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,199 But those thoughts don't last long when I start thinking of, 221 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,279 "Yeah, I'm in Anvil." 222 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,479 I was a big Anvil fan for many years growing up as a teenager. 223 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:12,039 So sometimes I still can't believe, it's like, "Wow, I'm in Anvil! I can't believe it." 224 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,199 (LAUGHS) You know? 225 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,639 LIPS: Ivan met this girl over in Europe by the name of Tiziana. 226 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,759 She's actually an agent and she's been e-mailing me. 227 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,279 It looks like she's been a big fan of the band 228 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,639 and she's basically telling me that she has a passion and love for metal music 229 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,399 and I guess we're part of that. It looks like she's booked us a tour. 230 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,919 Wow, look at this. Italy, Switzerland, 231 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:41,839 Austria, France, England, Belgium, Germany. 1,500 euro a fucking show, man. 232 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,519 Holy shit, this is going to be the biggest tour I've done in 20 years. 233 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,079 When I sit at home or work at Choice Children's Catering, 234 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,399 they don't know that my band even exists. 235 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,879 But if I happen to play, you know, a show someplace in Europe 236 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,959 and one of the labels goes, "Hey, man, that band Anvil 237 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,599 "that we heard about, you know, 20 years ago, they're playing. 238 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,959 "Let's go see them." That's all I need. 239 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,079 (SPEAKING) 240 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,239 LIPS: Heavy metal is a really serious culture in Europe. 241 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,479 This is the stronghold. That's why it will never, ever go away. 242 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,079 The Sweden Rock Festival, here we are. 243 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,239 Ready to rock, man. Rock and roll. 244 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,399 (LAUGHING) 245 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,079 (PEOPLE CHEERING) 246 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,959 Swedish Rock Festival presents to you Anvil! 247 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,159 (PEOPLE SCREAMING) 248 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,599 (HEAVY METAL MUSIC PLAYING) 249 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,839 Anvil! 250 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,559 LIPS: The foundation of the business comes down to the fans 251 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,159 and the people that love your band. 252 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,519 And, without those people, you really are nowhere. 253 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,359 (PLAYING 666) 254 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,399 (CHEERING) 255 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,799 We're the matinee act and we kicked fucking ass. 256 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:37,799 "Hello, this is Lips from the band Anvil, and you're listening to Rock Station Kiel, 257 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,639 "you know it." 258 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,839 Okay. 259 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,079 And once again, please, I turn it off. 260 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,479 (LAUGHING) 261 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,439 - I'm so sorry. - MAN: Practise. 262 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,999 - Yeah, okay, sorry. Again. - "Hello, everybody... 263 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,639 Oh, you've got the same trousers on as... 264 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,999 No, actually, I have got the same trousers... They look similar. 265 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,799 Michael is like the Beethoven of lead guitar players, man. 266 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:08,079 This is where it originates from. This is where half my style comes from. 267 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,679 Do you remember that? I played with the women's vibrator? 268 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,839 - Anvil, Anvil. - I love this guy, man. 269 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,839 You're a good man. You're a good man. 270 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,239 The first time I'd seen you was across the street from where I lived, 271 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,079 when you played in Toronto. 272 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,639 - You went to a videogame place. - Okay. 273 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,559 It was right across the street from where I lived... 274 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,839 - Okay. ...and that's the first place I saw you 275 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,079 and you were coming on to this girl by the name of Jan Wolfman 276 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,119 and we've written a song called Tall And Teasin'. 277 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,759 She was a really, really tall chick with long black hair. 278 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,079 - I don't remember. - I know. You don't remember. 279 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,199 (BOTH LAUGHING) 280 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,639 - I'll see you later. - Okay. 281 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,159 Can you fucking believe the people we're meeting? 282 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,119 Mr Lips, nice to see you. 283 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,039 - How are you, man? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm fine. 284 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:55,319 So you came to see us at Super Rock? 285 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,359 - Yeah, absolutely. - Really, yeah? 286 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,199 - I was a high school student, yeah. - Oh, really? 287 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,479 Yeah. You've got many fans in Japan, yeah. 288 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,399 But if you have a chance to go to Japan, maybe next time, then you should do it. 289 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,919 - What, do it in Japan? - Yeah, of course. 290 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,199 (SPEAKING) 291 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,639 It's great to see you, man. It's really great to see you. Really. 292 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,719 Here we are backstage trying to talk to Ted Nugent. 293 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,999 And... pretty interestingly... 294 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,839 Actually, I think that... That's Tommy Aldridge right there. 295 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,799 Tommy! Tommy! 296 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,719 (SPEAKING) 297 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,639 Yeah, well, that certainly is a problem. I can see it already. 298 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,479 (MUTTERING) 299 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,439 Until we become a real commodity, this is what you deal with. 300 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,639 (READY TO RIGHT PLAYING) 301 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,919 (PEOPLE SCREAMING) 302 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,359 # Oy, oy, oy, Moishe laid a guy 303 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,559 # What ever happened to my little Jewish boy? 304 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,159 # I send him to school to learn and read and write 305 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,799 # Now he comes back schtupping shiksas every night # 306 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,199 Would you please ask somebody who is just walking around for the way, 307 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:21,919 because you need to reach Smichov. Smichov, Prague 5. 308 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,279 I'll wait on the phone and please ask them, 309 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:29,079 so I can talk to him in Czech and try to help you to find a way. 310 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,239 (SPEAKING) 311 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,039 MAN 1: Is that them? MAN 2: It has to be... 312 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:38,479 MAN 1: Yeah, it has to be. 313 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,479 Halle-fucking-lujah, man! This is what the fuck it takes to get to fucking Prague? 314 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,439 We've been circling the fucking streets for two hours. Fuck. 315 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,519 The worst thing about it is, I have to throw all my fucking drugs away 316 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,639 for nothing. 317 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,119 There was, you know, all the dogs. What fucking dogs? 318 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,879 There was never going to be any fucking dogs, man. 319 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,399 (SPEAKING CZECH) 320 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,839 Sorry for being late, 321 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,439 but you've got a really complicated city that we can't read the signs. 322 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,199 (PEOPLE CHEERING) 323 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,919 (CHANTING) Anvil! Anvil! Very good! 324 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,159 Anvil! Anvil! Very good! Very good! 325 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,439 Anvil! Anvil! 326 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,799 - MAN: Very good! - Very good! Anvil! Anvil! 327 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,159 (ROARING) 328 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,079 See, I'm my own roadie. I ain't a rock star yet. 329 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,599 (SPEAKING) 330 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,959 (PEOPLE CHATTERING) 331 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,039 What's going on here, buddy? 332 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:05,119 (INDISTINCT) 333 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,839 That's nice. 334 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,919 I guess he figures if he gives me a bit of goulash, I'll forget about it. 335 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,679 (SPEAKING) 336 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,359 No. We're not getting fucking paid. 337 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,999 Where's that fucking club owner? 338 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,599 You are too late. 339 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,959 If I was too late, I wouldn't have fucking played, pal. 340 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,839 You're going to fucking pay me. 341 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,679 MAN: Most of people goes away. Most of people goes away. 342 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,439 - I did my full set. - Sorry. 343 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,199 I did my work. I want to get paid. 344 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,599 You should have told us you weren't paying us 345 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,719 before we fucking played, then we wouldn't have fucking played. 346 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,759 You fucking piece of shit. You fucking pay me. I fucking worked. 347 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,719 LIPS: I'm going to kick your fucking face in. 348 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,719 MAN: Are you crazy, man? LIPS: Yeah, I am fucking crazy. 349 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,359 I just worked my ass off and you won't fucking pay me. 350 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,679 You're a motherfucker. 351 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:51,999 I'll just give you my business card. 352 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,559 - I'm a lawyer. - Okay, you're a lawyer. 353 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,079 You played in front of fuck-all people here tonight. You were screwed. 354 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,239 You have a shit manager. Listen, let's be honest about this. 355 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,399 Right. 356 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,879 You, Anvil, should be playing in front of, I don't know, 1,000 minimum people 357 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,999 every night in Europe. That's my opinion. 358 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,999 - Yeah, you're probably right. - Given your reputation... 359 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,879 Given your reputation, you should be playing in front of 1,000 people every night, 360 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,599 and you are not. 361 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,039 Now you gotta ask yourself why you're not doing that. 362 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:26,839 - I've been asking myself that for 20 years. - Because you've got a shit manager. 363 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,919 I could answer that in one word, two words, three words. 364 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,759 - Go ahead. - We haven't got good management. 365 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,759 (SPEAKING) 366 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,359 Bye! 367 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,999 (TIZIANA EXCLAIMING) 368 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,199 We are here from... In perfect time, in perfect time! 369 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,399 If I miss the train I have to pay double. 370 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,639 (SPEAKS ITALIAN) 371 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,839 I was so, so, so angry. 372 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:04,359 Okay, listen. You call MasterCard, cancel your payment. 373 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,559 Listen, they do that. 374 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,519 (SPEAKING IN BROKEN ENGLISH) 375 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,119 For to go, for to back. For to back is, again, invalid. 376 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,319 For to go now, change it. 377 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,359 (REINER SIGHS) 378 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,279 The one thing that's a really good thing, man, is that we found those sleeping bags. 379 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,519 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 380 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,479 (TIZIANA YELLING IN ITALIAN) 381 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,639 It's not you! It's you that will play! You understand me? 382 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,719 Because the promoter ask you if you will play! 383 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,239 And you should answer, no! 384 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,439 - Stop! - TIZIANA: Please! Today is a very big day! 385 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,079 (SPEAKING) 386 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,519 - We're not playing tonight? - No. 387 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,719 What happened? 388 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,879 - Whatever. - I know nothing. I don't know anything. 389 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,159 I'm not getting in a pissing contest over this, okay? 390 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,679 "Lips, Lips, how come this, how come that?" 391 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,519 I don't fucking know! I'm just a fucking guy, man. 392 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,719 I just wanted to come and do a tour. 393 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:40,039 I did everything I fucking could to make this as pleasant as possible 394 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:45,479 and it's been nothing but a nightmare. The whole thing, from top to bottom. 395 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,799 No one listens to me when I say things. You can imagine how I feel. 396 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,519 (SPEAKING) 397 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,039 I'm doing everything right and I'm getting shit on. 398 00:26:56,120 --> 00:27:00,839 He's going home. He's done with the band. Fucking, he wants to sue you civilly, and... 399 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,039 - For what? - I don't know. 400 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,879 It's so unfair to Anvil. It's so unfair to Anvil, man. 401 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,639 How much more can one person put their fucking love and dedication into something? 402 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,759 How much more can one person go? 403 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,519 This fucking band, man, I need it to rise, man. 404 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,079 Robb, I don't want to fight with you. Do you understand me? 405 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,519 Look at me. I don't want to fucking fight with you, man. 406 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,919 - Okay? - But you did. 407 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,199 I know and we always end up like that. What for? 408 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,159 Only to end up where we were the day before, everything's okay. 409 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,119 Okay? So let's just go play and we get on with it. 410 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,719 Anyway, the place is jam-fucking-packed. 411 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,679 (ROCK MUSIC PLAYING) 412 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,719 (MAN COUGHING) 413 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,319 It's so unprofessional, what we are going through right now. 414 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,279 It's fucking... It's sad. 415 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,999 Welcome to Romania. 416 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,639 (ALL CHATTERING) 417 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,479 Tomorrow, it's cool. 418 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,079 LIPS: Tiziana's told us there's going to be at least five to ten thousand people there. 419 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,119 It's a huge, huge arena. 420 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,679 Even the mayor of Transylvania is supposed to show up. 421 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,879 ALL: Anvil! 422 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,719 Look at this. It's the biggest fucking gig and the littlest amp. 423 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,719 (TEASE ME, PLEASE ME PLAYING) 424 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,279 - Anvil very good. - Father and son. 425 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,679 I'm proud of this father, he is my dad. 426 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,359 (ANNOUNCING IN ROMANIAN) 427 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,679 (MAN YELLING) 428 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,239 (ROCK MUSIC PLAYING) 429 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,759 (SINGING) 430 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:48,199 ANNOUNCER: Hello, people! Behold the gods of Canadian bands, 431 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,839 Toronto's own Anvil! 432 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,399 (DRUMROLL) 433 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,639 (CROWD CHEERING) 434 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,279 (YELLING IN ROMANIAN) 435 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,039 - BOY: Max. Max. - Max? 436 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,319 (SPEAKING) 437 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,279 - Yes. - Why? 438 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:46,519 They never pay me. 99.9% of bands never get paid. 439 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,399 That's the truth. I work every day just like everybody else. 440 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,959 I'm a regular person, you know? Right now, I'm on vacation. 441 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,719 I leave my job and I come and I rock and roll. 442 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,079 And then I go back, and it's back to the same old bullshit. 443 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,679 LIPS: We worked for five weeks, got paid nothing. 444 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,159 Not even one record company showed up. 445 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,519 - Have a good weekend? - Good, thanks. 446 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,639 - Okay, that's good. - How about you? 447 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,239 Not too bad. A bit busy. 448 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,319 LIPS: Sometimes things go wrong. 449 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,639 Things went drastically wrong. 450 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,319 But, at least, there was a tour for it to go wrong on. 451 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,039 Tiziana was nothing but help, her heart was in the right place 452 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,959 and when she said she was going to do it with passion and love, 453 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,199 that's precisely what she did. She was good to her word. 454 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,279 I'm grateful. I don't regret a minute of it. 455 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,119 By the power invested in me by the province of Ontario, 456 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,839 it is my honour and delight to declare you henceforth 457 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,239 to be husband and wife. And you may kiss your bride. 458 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,359 (WHOOPS) 459 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,159 See, guitar picks. 460 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,439 - Yeah. - Very neat. 461 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,999 (LAUGHING) All right, rock 'n' roll, baby. 462 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,119 (PLAYING 666) 463 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,519 MAN: So what's he given up over the years in order to do what he wants to do? 464 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,919 Well, making money. He gave that up. 465 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,679 And that was a little difficult for me to accept 466 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,399 because I'd like my children to go to school 467 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,519 and make something of themselves. 468 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,079 Typical Jewish immigrant parents. 469 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,479 Anyone that goes into the arts generally does not succeed. 470 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,439 It's a tough life and they didn't really want that for him. 471 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:44,879 But you also couldn't understand his choice. You also were not... 472 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,359 How could I... I mean, it was a tough life that he chose for himself. 473 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,839 He wasn't going to be a tailor. 474 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,559 He wasn't going to go into the menswear business. 475 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,959 Steven is not a businessman. He's an artist. 476 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,159 That's who he is. He didn't want to live in mediocrity. 477 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,439 He'd rather live in poverty and have nothing. He wanted to prove my father wrong, I think, 478 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,319 and he's been searching for that validation since he's 10 years old. 479 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,799 That this effort that he's put forth to become a great musician 480 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,839 would become worth it. 481 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,719 REINER: They just didn't understand. He deserved the same support that I got. 482 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:29,399 My parents were amazing. My father and mother loved the fact 483 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,519 that I got interested in something and I excelled at it very, very well. 484 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,719 They saw the progress, so they were just very supportive. 485 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,319 He kept saying to my dad, I believe, 486 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,959 "I really want to play the drums. I really love the drums, dah, dah, dah." 487 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,919 And it was shortly before Christmas, I believe, and there it was. 488 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,799 Christmas, his first set of drums. That's all it's been since. 489 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,279 Look at the blur of that stick, man. I'm burning. 490 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,519 I'm smiling here, and I usually don't smile. I was happy, man. 491 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,959 It was like I found something that was going to work. 492 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,639 Robb's father was in Auschwitz. 493 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,999 He was young. He was 15 years old at that time. 494 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:16,079 He did anything and everything in the camp 495 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,079 to get that piece of bread or... He was a fighter. 496 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,959 He was, you know, virtually, "I'm going to die." 497 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,399 In fact, when they liberated him, he was... He said he was getting sick, right. 498 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,799 But that's the kind of guy he was. He came from... 499 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,519 He was a fucking Hungarian Jew, man. 500 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,359 That's where my roots come from. 501 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,799 He was totally supportive, man. His trip was just fucking, 502 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,999 "You're happy, man, you're doing it, I'm with you." 503 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,399 My father was a jeweller, 504 00:35:54,480 --> 00:36:00,479 and he gave these to me when I was 13 years old as a gift. 505 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,799 I've never had them off my neck since they were given to me. 506 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,439 Except the odd time I've had a few scraps with Lips 507 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:12,039 and he's ripped them off my neck and stuff. But I've always repaired it, you know. 508 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:22,079 LIPS: The reality is that we're not getting any younger. 509 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,799 Time doesn't move backwards, it moves forwards. 510 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,479 Your belly gets bigger, your face starts to sag, 511 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,479 your hair falls out, you run out of time. You've got to do it now. 512 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,679 (CHUCKLES) 513 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,639 You know, 20 years, 30 years, 40 years, you're done. 514 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,999 You know? 515 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,319 We just got to get it done. I need to see... 516 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,079 Personally, I always say "l", but for all of us, I need to realise this while I can. 517 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,839 - That's it. - That's it. Just while I can. 518 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,479 LIPS: You know, one of the main reasons that I think that 519 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,799 Anvil has never really gone anywhere is our albums have sounded like crap. 520 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,279 And we haven't sounded good since Chris Tsangarides 521 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,519 recorded us back in the early '80s. 522 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,159 NARRATOR: One Toronto band who lives and dies for their heroes 523 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:18,679 of Judas Priest, Motörhead, Iron Maiden and others, is Anvil, 524 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,559 who may not be the prettiest band in town, but, then again, never professed to be. 525 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,999 (METAL ON METAL PLAYING) 526 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,399 # Metal on metal It's what I crave 527 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,399 # The louder the better I'll turn in my grave # 528 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,519 NARRATOR: One of the things Anvil has going for them 529 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,679 that should help them gain respect in the marketplace 530 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,079 is that production of the new album was handled by Chris Tsangarides. 531 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,119 Chris, you've got quite a history of doing heavy rock bands, I understand. 532 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,999 Who are some of the other people that you've been producing? 533 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,199 The last thing I did was Thin Lizzie's new album, Renegade. 534 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,159 INTERVIEWER: Never having worked with a Canadian band before, 535 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:50,599 - how do you find the guys? - Yeah, great. Really. 536 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:56,999 Yeah, I think they have a lot of English tendencies as opposed to Canadian, 537 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,719 and I mean that in the nicest possible way, musically. 538 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,959 LIPS: At this point, I'll send him a demo tape 539 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,599 and hope to hell that he is interested enough 540 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,839 and remembers us well enough to get involved again. 541 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,479 LIPS: Do you use pop or... 542 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,759 - Pop. - Pop? 543 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,279 Yes. 544 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,479 REINER: This is where I hang out sometimes, you know. 545 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,639 It's just the Robbo studio music area. 546 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,079 This is where I hide from everybody, you know. 547 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,599 Nobody bothers me down here. I hang out here. 548 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,679 There's Anvil master tapes here, but they're buried in all this junk. 549 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,919 These pictures here, nobody ever sees this stuff, you know. 550 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,399 I like painting. I love to paint. 551 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,199 This is in East Germany. I forget the name of the town. 552 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,919 It's on the back of the picture. So I made a painting of it. 553 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,559 I like buildings. 554 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,519 There's a guy called Edward Hopper, I love the guy's art style. 555 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,159 I find it very appealing when 556 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:21,519 you see a scene, but there's nobody in it. I like that. 557 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:24,239 It's a very quiet place, you know. 558 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,079 That, right there, it's just a monument of an anvil in a park. 559 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,719 But look at the size of the people. See, I made the scale like it's big. 560 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,999 Right? Like the Egyptians would have, like it's like a god. 561 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,439 You know, "The god is there!" 562 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,839 Anyways, that's what I was thinking. 563 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,559 This picture is what I call Left Behind. 564 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,399 This is what's left behind when I'm not around no more. 565 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,679 So, I kind of just thought I'd paint myself out of it. 566 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,359 Okay, now I will tell you about The Grand Finale here. 567 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,519 This baby comes from Europe. The inspiration for this is totally German. 568 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:27,359 If you touch or feel it or look at it, it actually has texture. 569 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,199 I thought it would be the place to put it, obviously, 570 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,839 because the wife definitely didn't want it in the living room. 571 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,559 ANSWERING MACHINE: Message one. 572 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,399 Hey, Lips. Hey! It's CT here, man. 573 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,199 I got the tape, 574 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,879 and I'd like you to give me a call. Call me here at my studio in Dover 575 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,599 and we'll talk further. All right, dude. 576 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,679 - CT! - Hey, Lips! 577 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,519 - How's it going, man? - (LAUGHING) All right, dude, how are you? 578 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,999 I'm doing good, man, how have you been? 579 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,359 - Fucking A. - Fucking A. 580 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,519 (BOTH LAUGHING) 581 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,639 It's fucking good to hear your voice, man. 582 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:17,599 - And yours, too. Fuck, yeah. - Fuck! 583 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,279 Yeah, man, well, I listened to the tape and, well, you know, 584 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,559 I want to sit down and talk to you at length about this 585 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,319 but we need to sit down together in the same room 586 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,039 and we'll go through this shit first but we've definitely got... 587 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,359 - I think we’ve got something. - That's really, really good news, man. 588 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,999 Holy shit. 589 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,239 - We have right now 19 songs written. - TSANGARIDES: Right. 590 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,679 We want to put13 on this record because this album's called This is Thirteen. 591 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,439 - Right. - The fact that we're still here 592 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,239 doing it is almost... It has its own energy now. 593 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,559 - Thirty years. - I want to just, like, "Fuck it, man, 594 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,719 "let's take what we've got and let's fucking once and for all 595 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,279 "try to get this channelled in the right direction." 596 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:11,959 TSANGARIDES: We need to find about £12,000, £13,000 to do it. 597 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:17,119 With that minimal of investment, we've got the potential, like you rightly say, 598 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,279 to continue, and we own everything. 599 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,719 You know what, guys, if this sells, you know, we get so much. 600 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,119 If it doesn't sell, what the fuck, we've made a great record anyway, 601 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,119 we don't owe anything to anybody. I just have this feeling. 602 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,879 I don't know why, I haven't got a clue. 603 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,359 I just know that we should do it. It's what we all do. 604 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,519 Where does that leave us? 605 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,639 MAN: It leaves you about to record an album with CT. 606 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:43,159 He's a genius. 607 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,039 At this point, it looks like I'm going to have to... 608 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,999 We're going to have to take further steps. 609 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,559 It's really bad because, of course, this is an expense. 610 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,119 We don't know whether to take initiative now or wait. 611 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,319 So much is riding on it. 612 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,839 Here I've got this incredible opportunity 613 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,199 to work with one of the world's greatest producers and it costs a fortune. 614 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,999 I have no idea where I'm going to get that kind of money. 615 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,799 (MAN SPEAKING) 616 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,919 Why, they are stunning! Did you know that 80%... 617 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,759 ...Raybans or Guccis, he's gonna see... 618 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,159 Get outta town! Where the hell did you get those glasses 619 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:40,279 and where can I get a pair for myself? 620 00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,719 CUT LOOSE: You gotta be dedicated and you gotta want it 621 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,999 and if you’re loud and enthusiastic and energetic, 622 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,679 you can make yourself a shit whack of money here. 623 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,479 Read the pitch word for word, okay? That's what's going to make you money here. 624 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,319 You read the pitch word for word. 625 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,039 The pitch is designed basically so that if a monkey could read, 626 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,479 he'd make 600 bucks a week. 627 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,839 Hello, may I please speak to Bob? 628 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,239 Many a times as a fan, I've been there for him 629 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,199 and now he's here for me but he's also here for himself. 630 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,919 Bob, these are gorgeous. 631 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,199 They're made in Italy by RL. They're called Vipers. 632 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,399 These are identical to the ones Keanu Reeves wore in the movie The Matrix. 633 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,519 Absolutely gorgeous. Made in Italy by RL, they're called the Vipers. 634 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,279 They say they give you a 45% better chance of getting laid. 635 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,519 "I'm not calling to cost you money. I'm calling to make you money. 636 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,119 "Try not to at least talk me out of one box." 637 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,279 (BELL RINGING) 638 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,999 Come on, buddy, pull up your pants, grab your balls and let's do this. 639 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,359 - I'll tell you what I'll do for you. - I'll tell you what I'll do. 640 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,919 - I've got a guy doing a golf tournament. - I've got a guy doing a golf tournament. 641 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,399 - And he's doing a half a box and... - And he's doing a half a box and... 642 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,039 - Okay, okay. - Don't take okay. What? 643 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,479 LIPS: I've been trained my whole life to be polite 644 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,959 and that job does the exact opposite. 645 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,159 You've got to go against everything that you've learnt as a kid. 646 00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:00,319 MAN: So why are you doing it? 647 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,079 LIPS: Because I thought that Lips, the character Lips, 648 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,039 would have no problem with doing it, but as it turns out 649 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,879 that guy is actually a lot more honest than a telephone salesman. 650 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:15,039 Hey, Bill, it's Steve Powers from R&J. 651 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:16,279 (PHONE LINE DRONING) 652 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,599 You know what? 'Cause I have one of my guys... 653 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:24,279 LIPS: I worked there for a total of probably eight hours in three visits 654 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,999 and I made nothing. 655 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,519 I remortgaged my house... 656 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,839 And I'm not the only one who sits in a really, really... Whoa, okay. 657 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,479 Really serious shit. 658 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,599 Ivan has missed his mortgage payments. 659 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,519 There may be a power of sale on his home. Okay? 660 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,279 Like, I'm not the only one. 661 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,079 Glenn, G Five, he doesn't even have a home. 662 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,319 All of his stuff is sitting in a garage. Okay? 663 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,319 He rented a garage because he hasn't got enough money to live. 664 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,119 No one's getting paid. 665 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,999 It's just, everybody believes in Lips. 666 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,279 That's an incredible thing. 667 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:07,599 Like a blind dedication and I'm the only one who's got the vision. 668 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,679 "Lips will take us there." "I'm going to take you there, man." 669 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,279 I've got this... It's been a year of it, an absolute overwhelming year. 670 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,799 I'm gonna fucking do it! 671 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,439 That's what it is and that's why I'm here. 672 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,759 I took the fucking risk, yeah. 673 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,999 At what cost? 674 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,519 So there's cliffs I can go jump off. That's the easy way. 675 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,959 Well, no, you won’t jump off the cliff 'cause I'll stop you. 676 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,199 - That's dedication, pal. - Seriously. 677 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,679 That's what's taken me 25, 30 years, man. 678 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,199 Of having somebody dedicated to me. 679 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,479 He believes in me. 680 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,519 "Lips will get... Lips is my buddy, man. 681 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,199 "He's going to take... We're going to do it together. 682 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,399 "We're gonna get there. We're going to fucking do it." 683 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,119 Since we were fucking 14 years old. And here we sit in our fucking 50s, man. 684 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,559 We're going to be rock stars. 685 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,679 It's a fucking dream, but I'm going to make it come true. 686 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,759 He will always have what he's done in the past, 687 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:26,039 but you've got to... If it's over, then you've got to find something else to do. 688 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,599 He's got a son, he's got a wife, he's got two stepdaughters, right? 689 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,199 I mean, he's got a mortgage, he's got this, he's got that. 690 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,759 And Anvil, they tour, they don't make a lot of money and, you know, 691 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:41,479 he's basically telling me, "It's got to happen or I'm done." 692 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:47,999 Oh, yeah, someone has to stay home, raising a child and work. 693 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,559 I've been very patient as a wife. How long is it gonna take? 694 00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:59,039 How long do I have to keep "waiting"? 695 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,319 They've been working hard to try and make things work 696 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,119 and they're just not getting, I believe, personally, what they deserve. That's all. 697 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,559 - Merry Christmas. - Merry Christmas. 698 00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:20,639 (CHATTERING) 699 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,719 LIPS: I've always believed that 700 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,399 no matter how hard it gets or how impossible, 701 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,079 there's always hope and there's always a way. 702 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,479 (LAUGHING) 703 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,479 And the most incredible thing has happened. My sister is actually gonna help me out. 704 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,399 She's decided to actually lend us the money to go do the album. 705 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:54,119 She knows how important it is right now in my life. 706 00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,999 And the time that this all is transpiring, it’s just an incredible, incredible thing. 707 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:09,319 That I just wish him well and I wish him success and happiness 708 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,919 and that's all I've ever really wanted for him. 709 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,839 He's my dear brother and I've always loved him. 710 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,559 LIPS: My sister. 711 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:25,919 (KISSING) 712 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,239 I got my big sister, man. 713 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,479 Cool. 714 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,559 - Family is important shit, man. - Yeah. 715 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,439 TSANGARIDES: If people looked inside themselves a bit more 716 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,879 and think, "Well, why didn't my record sell?" 717 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,999 Well, maybe people didn't like it, and that's the bottom line. 718 00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:35,759 The songs have not been up to muster. 719 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:42,159 Okay, that's compounded by having crappy record labels, 720 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:46,119 crappy productions, no management, no anything. 721 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,119 Just a bunch of guys on their own trying to do this. 722 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:55,359 Now, I mean, I defy a lot of people to get anywhere like this, 723 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,199 but they stuck it through. 724 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,359 They stuck it through 725 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,439 and the fact that they managed to get contact with me 726 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,239 and I heard the stuff and thought, 727 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,239 "You know what, there's something here. We can do something with this." 728 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,759 LIPS: To get an opportunity at this point in time in history, 729 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,359 I think, is nothing less than a miracle. 730 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,919 - TSANGARIDES: Hello, brethren. - CT vibes. 731 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,959 TSANGARIDES: We have HM brethren here. 732 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,439 (IMITATES DRUMS BEATING) 733 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,759 - TSANGARIDES: Yeah. - And then come in with it. 734 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,079 (VOLUME INCREASES) 735 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,439 This is a good, little, fucking, catchy tune, man. 736 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:03,359 I mean, it's straightforward metal rock. It's maybe not even, like, metal. 737 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,799 It could be in the pop, punk pop, how about punk pop, metal? 738 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,919 (BOMBS AWAYPLAYING) 739 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,799 # Bombs away, bombs away 740 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,039 # Bombs away 741 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,359 # Shells explode 742 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,839 # Flashing light, burning fires 743 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,319 # Turn day to night, head on back 744 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,519 # Reload bay, armed again 745 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,119 # Bombs away 746 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,439 # You don’t stand a chance # 747 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,719 You know what, I'm doing some other stuff that I wasn't anticipating. 748 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,159 - TSANGARIDES: That's good. - Okay. 749 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:44,399 # Tarot cards and tea leaves 750 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,679 # A crystal ball 751 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,879 # Palm reading, candlelight 752 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,159 # Fortunes to tell 753 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,319 # Fear the unknown 754 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:10,439 # Edge of your seat in anticipation # 755 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,839 LIPS: (SHOUTING) I don't know what you want. What do you want? 756 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,919 You sit here all fucking day, pouting, "It's crap." 757 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,959 - You're causing disruption. - REINER: Let it all out. 758 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,439 You'll fucking listen to me, you fucking asshole. 759 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,879 Look, you smile. You're smiling at a fucking loser. 760 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,159 You're a fucking loser. 761 00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:40,759 - Let it all out, man. - That's what you are. 762 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,319 - Let it all out. - Calm down, guys. Come and sit down. 763 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,079 It's destructive, it's negative energy. 764 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,119 - What are you doing? - I'm... 765 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,079 You've got everything fucking going for you. What are you doing? 766 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:57,279 And everybody tells me that. You're right. Everybody tells me that constantly. 767 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,359 You're right. I agree. So maybe... 768 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,199 So where are you going? What are you doing? 769 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,719 I'm going to go pursue something a little bit more satisfactory 770 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,359 than, I guess, what's happening with you. Sorry. 771 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,159 You push me away. I'm accepting your offer. I'm on to the next page. 772 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,919 Oy vey, why is this happening? 773 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,399 I'm fucking sick of it. I can't fucking deal with it. 774 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,959 You know? We're going to come apart at the seams. 775 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,799 I don't know what's going to happen. 776 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,999 I'm so fucking fed up, like we've got to get a drummer. 777 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,039 I mean, I don't know what to say. He's fired. I mean, what can I say? 778 00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:59,519 That guy lives to hurt me, man, 779 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,239 and be jealous. I don't even know what the fuck is wrong with him. 780 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,759 But he's fucking, just lives to fucking hurt me. 781 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,399 (COMMENTARY ON TV) 782 00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,759 I stayed dedicated to what? Stayed dedicated to fucking what? 783 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,159 (DOOR OPENS) 784 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,319 First thing I want to say is I'm sorry, okay? 785 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,199 Well, I would have liked to hear that... 786 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,159 Okay. Just look at me. Look in my eyes. I want to talk to you, Robb. 787 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,719 I'm sorry. Do you understand that? 788 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,839 I'm under a hell of a lot of stress, okay? 789 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:44,039 If I lose my temper, if anybody knows, you know. 790 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,559 I'm tired of being the fall guy. Understand? I'm tired of it, that's all. 791 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,999 - I don't want negative energy around. - Fuck you, man, there is no... 792 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,159 - Yes, it is! - I'm positive. 793 00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:56,879 Yes, it is, because negative energy is when you say to me, 794 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,599 "Oh, you do half-assed takes and settle for it." 795 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,039 That is a rude, underhanded, low blow 796 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,399 because I could say the same thing about your takes. 797 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,159 I would never dare because I don't feel that way. 798 00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:17,439 TSANGARIDES: Sit down, sit down, let's try reasonable voices. 799 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:23,159 So, what I can see going on here is we're having a little bit of... 800 00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:26,879 When something is said, it's over amplified, 801 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,839 and the recipient gets bent out of shape, for whatever reason. 802 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,839 Call it cabin fever, call it... I don't know, it's academic now. 803 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,199 I'm hard to live with. 804 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,279 - TSANGARIDES: Fair enough. - I'm hard to live with. 805 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,119 (TSANGARIDES LAUGHING) 806 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,759 - TSANGARIDES: Fair enough. Fair enough. - You know? 807 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,999 - I'm emotional. No doubt about it. - TSANGARIDES: Yeah. 808 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,799 But that's what makes you what you are. It makes all of us what we are. 809 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,959 REINER: Yeah, that's cool, man, I know that's what you are, man, 810 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,799 but the bottom line is, why am I your fall guy constant-fucking-ly? 811 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,879 - When I'm there for... - Because I love you, that's why. 812 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,159 REINER: Because I'm there for you fucking constantly. 813 00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:12,439 TSANGARIDES: Well, he does. He does, man. You want to hear what he says about you. 814 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,439 You're my fucking brother, man. 815 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,839 Who else can I fucking cry on their shoulder or fucking say shit to? 816 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,199 Who else? Who's the closest person I've got in the world? 817 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,319 - REINER: I know. I know. - Think about that. 818 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,519 Good. 819 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:44,479 If I can't express myself and blow up at you, what have I got? I... 820 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,279 You're the closest person I have. 821 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:49,959 Well... 822 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,079 I'm sorry, I don't know what to say. I'm sorry. I'm very sorry. 823 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:02,199 Okay, fine. I hear you, it's just been so much of it, dude. 824 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,639 - It's just like, I don't know what the fuck... - We're both stressed. 825 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,119 I ain't stressed about nothing, man. 826 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,919 - I get stressed... - Well, I am. 827 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,999 I get stressed when you start fucking blowing it out on me, dude. 828 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,959 Yeah, then I get stressed, but otherwise I ain't stressed. 829 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,039 I'm fucking going, "Let's go, boys. 830 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,079 "Let's show the fucking world and some of these assholes 831 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,479 - "that they're wrong." - TSANGARIDES: Exactly. 832 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,279 Who is the one always driving that machine? Robbo. 833 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,359 If you look at it, in the great scheme of things, 834 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:32,239 it's a very, very tiny concern, really, what we're talking about, 835 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,759 and the reactions from everybody were just a little bit excessive. 836 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,439 Yeah. Totally. So... I need your support. 837 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,599 I need your bloody faith in what I'm gonna do 838 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,399 to make this record sound like the fucking dog's bollocks, and it will. 839 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,959 Listen, man, I'm sorry, buddy. Okay? Listen, I'm sorry. 840 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:57,279 I love you, you know that. Okay? We've got a long road ahead of us. 841 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:16,839 LIPS: I still believe that there’s an overall feeling of something guiding us, 842 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,559 an aura around us that protects and keeps it going 843 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,079 and I don't know what that is or why it is or how it is. 844 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:31,119 Whether it's bonding between Robb and I from since we were kids. 845 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,359 I don't know what it is but it's like we're there for life. 846 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,799 REINER: Yeah, we're family, man. We're close buddies, man. 847 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,079 Like any family, we have our differences and stuff, 848 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,879 but we’ve always been able to work through that stuff. 849 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:51,999 - Merlin did it. - Merlin did it. 850 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,559 Either that or Satan was running all across the countryside 851 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,799 and he dropped a few stones, right? 852 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,519 He was high, man. He was drinking or something. 853 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,479 I want to touch it, man. It has healing powers, they say. 854 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,279 The healing powers is the stuff that I need. 855 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,759 In the studio with me is Lips from Anvil along with Chris Tsangarides, 856 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,759 producer of This Is Thirteen, the name of the brand-new Anvil CD. 857 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,879 Welcome to California and welcome to KNAC. Lips, what label will be putting this out? 858 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,199 LIPS: That's a good question. 859 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,119 Now that is going to be the $64 question for This Is Thirteen. 860 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,799 I'm looking for a manager. 861 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,919 I'm looking for somebody who will properly represent the band 862 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,679 and get us out there playing in the proper places. 863 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:59,799 Get us with the proper record company that's going to put our product out there 864 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,359 for people to know that it's there. 865 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,479 Tell you what, this is going to be not only the world premiere here on KNAC. com, 866 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,679 but world premiere here on the Vault. This Is Thirteen. 867 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,799 (THIS IS THIRTEEN PLAYING) 868 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,879 # Tarot card and tea leaves 869 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,359 # A crystal ball 870 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,559 # The gypsy's kiss 871 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:27,919 # The death card's call # 872 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:34,199 I really feel that This Is Thirteen is the best sounding Anvil album ever. 873 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,519 And everything is riding on it. 874 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,799 We're going to have all the record companies that we can get 875 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,799 listen to it and, hopefully, they'll make bids on it. 876 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,519 Hopefully we'll get a real, proper record contract 877 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:51,839 and, somehow, get someplace in this godforsaken crazy business. 878 01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,839 - It's the new Anvil album. - Yeah, I'll make sure he gets it. 879 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,039 LIPS: Hopefully, we'll have more luck back at home. 880 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,599 - Hey! I'm doing okay. - What's up? 881 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:40,919 - I'm Fraser. - Hi, Robb Reiner. 882 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,759 - Robb, nice to meet you. Sit down, boys. - Lips. 883 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,479 REINER: You can make lots of money with this band. 884 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,359 Want to rock and make money. There's nothing wrong with that. 885 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,599 (LAUGHING) 886 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,319 Okay, listen to number 13 first. 887 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,399 (AMERICAN REFUGEE PLAYING) 888 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,439 # Searching for a place to hide 889 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,319 # Running from those you've defied 890 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,839 # Forsaking the land of the free # 891 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:16,799 (TURNS MUSIC OFF) 892 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,039 It's a bit of a challenge, to be honest. 893 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,759 'Cause the landscape has changed here and it just has to... 894 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,639 If it's going to work here, it has to be the right fit. 895 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,639 We've got to be able to give you guys what you deserve and vice versa. 896 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,959 A major label should put this out 897 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,079 because it's not justice to have something that sounds this good 898 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,079 to go out on anything less than that. Somebody better do this justice. 899 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,559 It hurts so bad because everything else was done so correctly 900 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,559 and that's what was wrong with Attic Records. 901 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,559 It was the Metal On Metal and the Forged In Fire albums. 902 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,799 Those were classic albums, they are classic albums 903 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,399 but recorded for an independent who fumbled the ball. 904 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:55,759 The history speaks for itself. 905 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,239 You've been around a long time and that has currency. 906 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,479 That says it all, doesn't it? 907 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:05,599 It's due. I really will check it out and listen to it and we'll see if it fits. 908 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,359 But we definitely won't get into something 909 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,879 we don't think we can do what you guys deserve 'cause it's been, 910 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,799 man, being 51 and doing this, this is a real commitment. 911 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,679 I mean, it's amazing. Thanks for coming by. 912 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,799 - Thanks for having us. - Really nice meeting you, man. 913 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,559 - That's terrific. Thanks a lot. - Have a great day. 914 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:25,919 HILL: All right. 915 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,079 He said your history is worth money. 916 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:32,759 - Yeah. That's what he said. - Yeah. 917 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,799 He summed it up, basically, "It doesn't matter what the fuck, 918 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,199 "that's what you got, guys." I don't give a fuck about anything else. 919 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,559 (SIGHS) This is not good. 920 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,919 REINER: I hate the fucking industry, you know? 921 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,559 It will never change. It will never get better. 922 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,679 They're all fucking bottom-feeder, pieces of fuck that run the thing. 923 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,239 Organised criminals, you know. 924 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,519 Drug fucking runners. That's what's the business is about, right? 925 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,239 I hate it, man. 926 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:25,119 99.9% of the time, the guy never listens to your fucking tape. 927 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:30,159 And his desk is piled up like this with other entries 928 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,759 into the lottery of rock and roll. 929 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,239 He's going to look at it, he goes, "Let me see. What am I looking at? 930 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,879 "Okay, these guys are in their 50s." 931 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,559 And he's got another band that, "Here, these guys are in their 20s. Hmm." 932 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,999 I would like to see him make it. 933 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:50,999 I would like to see him recognised, his talent recognised by, you know... 934 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:58,239 I know his peers do recognise it. But I would like to see him 935 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,799 become as famous as he's been trying to become all these years. 936 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,479 It's over. It's been over for a long time. 937 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,399 And it's just too bad no one's living in the real world. 938 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,679 When you've been in a band for 30 years and you have 13... 939 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,999 They're working on their 13th album, CD, whatever, 940 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:25,239 and you can still only get 100 people into a bar at any one time, it's a joke. 941 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,559 - It's a joke. - Well, we'll see. I mean, I don't... 942 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,879 Like you said, it's just always a big, "What if? What if?" 943 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,159 And, unfortunately for them, that's what it's been like. 944 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,319 They've really never had a break. 945 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,359 Maybe back in the '80s when they were on with Bon Jovi or whatever. 946 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:45,279 But I've just been trying to be that supportive rock star wife, I guess, 947 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,959 and I've maybe wanted to live that dream as well. 948 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,559 I like the scene, I like the music. 949 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,159 I like the bands, always liked the bands and the music. 950 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,359 I just fell into that '80s scene and I liked it. 951 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,039 I liked the hair, I still, the hair bands, it's still me, 952 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,119 and nowadays you just... You keep dreaming that dream, but 953 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,679 I'm still dreaming, I guess, as much as what they are. 954 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,079 The album is a success whether it sells 10 or 10 million, 955 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:21,319 it will make no difference to me on the level of whether it was successful or not. 956 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,119 It was successful because, to me, 957 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:28,559 it sounds the best we've ever sounded and that's a success. 958 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,079 Voilà, Anvil CDs, man. 959 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,159 To mass-produce 1,000 CDs, 960 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:46,759 you're looking at basically in around a buck, a buck and a half per CD. 961 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,839 LIPS: There it is, man. 962 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,959 Wow. This Is Thirteen. 963 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:53,799 People want this. 964 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,159 We get e-mails and people freaking out, "Where the fuck is this album?" 965 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,959 So we got to get it out. It's an amazing album. I love it. 966 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:04,199 LIPS: There's no sense waiting for some pitkins from a record company. 967 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:05,639 It's pointless. 968 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,919 We're selling it directly to our fans, 969 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,439 who are the people that you did it for to begin with, 970 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,599 and now there's no one in between you and them. 971 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,799 I think it's the way to go. I think it's the way to go 972 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,839 that's going to be for all bands. I mean, it's not like we're unknown. 973 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,119 We've got a great head start because we've been around for years, 974 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,039 so I think, at a very minimum, we're going to do okay. 975 01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:31,879 (SHOUTING) 976 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,959 GINNY: The band is really... It's more than just his career, 977 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,439 but it still is, at the end of the day, his job. 978 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:55,439 It defines a little bit of the person who he is, but it's still the person. 979 01:08:55,520 --> 01:09:02,039 And even if the band doesn't go or become famous or whatever, 980 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,839 he's still the same person. 981 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,599 And I'm in love with the person, I'm not in love with the band. 982 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,599 - How was skateboarding? - Good. 983 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,439 Good, bad, whatever. Okay. 984 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,559 GINNY: Put your stuff down, we ordered pizza, okay? 985 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:14,799 Wow. 986 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,519 GINNY: He's very focused on family. 987 01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:23,239 Whether I complain that he's not or he's not, he really is. 988 01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,599 I think that's one of, maybe, 989 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:32,399 a greatest criticism and maybe why he withdraws from me 990 01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:36,599 is that when I criticise him, and it has to do with family, 991 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,119 he internalises that way too much. 992 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,679 And so that's... 993 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,439 While the band is his dream and a bit of who he is, 994 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,559 I think even he knows at the end of the day 995 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,919 that the family is what's important. 996 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:56,279 Look what you made me do. You made me cry. 997 01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,599 (LAUGHS) 998 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:10,759 Got stuck in the tree. 999 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,999 - Does that count as a point? - No. 1000 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,279 Oh, 3-0. 1001 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,679 (HEAVY METAL MOBILE PHONE RINGTONE) 1002 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,199 Okay, thank you very much. I'll speak to you soon. 1003 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,239 I've got to call Robbo. 1004 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,959 We just got a gig in Japan. I'm serious, man. 1005 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,559 Fucking right. Okay, I'll speak to you after. Right, bye. 1006 01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,079 Next, okay. 1007 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,839 LIPS: We've sent the album out all over the place 1008 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,079 and this Japanese promoter heard it and he's invited us to play 1009 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,359 in this massive show in Tokyo. 1010 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,559 See, everything turns into something else. 1011 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,559 You get on the phone, and then, all of a sudden, now we're busy. 1012 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,559 It feels like an incredible force of déjà vu going on. 1013 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,959 I feel like I've lived this moment for sure before. 1014 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:32,799 Last time I was here, I was in my 20s. It's really hard to believe that, 1015 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,439 fuck, a quarter of a century is gone since I was last here. 1016 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,119 It's good to be back, but I find out from the promoter 1017 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,519 that we’re on at 11:35 a.m. 1018 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,919 I came all this distance, did all... Everything that it took to get here 1019 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,799 and now what am I worried about? Is anybody going to show up? 1020 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,839 I've been in a situation where 1021 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:50,199 I've had five people in a place that holds 2,000 and it's not a good feeling. 1022 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:51,439 It really isn't. 1023 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,039 It would be very disappointing if there’s less than 500 people 1024 01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,919 because, from what I understand, it's a very, very large place. 1025 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,199 Listen, for me, I'll play for no one. I don't give a shit. 1026 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:09,319 I love to play, just to hear the sound and create that vibe of being Anvil. 1027 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,399 I live for that anyway. 1028 01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:15,919 But it's everybody else that goes with that. 1029 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:20,519 The people that have spent the money to bring you there and everything. 1030 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,239 My heart goes out to that aspect, too. 1031 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,159 What if no one gets there? Shit, man, it's not a good thing. 1032 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,039 Japan. 1033 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,039 (SPEAKING JAPANESE) 1034 01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:55,839 (DRUMS REVERBERATING) 1035 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,439 - Anvil! - Anvil! 1036 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,599 Anvil! 1037 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,199 - Anvil! - Anvil! 1038 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:17,199 LIPS: A lot of times I close my eyes during the show and I think about 1039 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,279 the place is full and everybody's freaking out 1040 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,999 and I try to pretend that it's all good 1041 01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:30,679 and I really deal with it afterwards when a promoter comes up to me and goes, 1042 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:36,439 "Well, Lips, I can't pay you what we originally hoped to pay you." 1043 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:42,039 So it would be a really sad moment, I think, to come this distance 1044 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,279 all for five people or something. 1045 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,239 (CROWD CHEERING) 1046 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,039 (PLAYING METAL ON METAL) 1047 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,879 # Metal on metal It's what I crave 1048 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,999 # The louder the better I'll turn in my grave 1049 01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,639 # Metal on metal Ears start to bleed 1050 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:45,119 # Cranking it up Fulfilling my need 1051 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,439 # Metal on metal # 1052 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,399 Get them up! 1053 01:15:57,480 --> 01:15:59,399 # Metal on metal # 1054 01:15:59,480 --> 01:16:01,639 All the people back from the stage. 1055 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,199 # Metal on metal 1056 01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:07,439 ALL: # Metal on metal! 1057 01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,279 # Metal on metal # 1058 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,399 Come on, let me hear you! 1059 01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:19,559 # Metal on metal Metal on metal # 1060 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,639 We love you, Japan! 1061 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,319 (CROWD CHEERING) 1062 01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,799 LIPS: It goes far beyond writing a good song. 1063 01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,639 It has nothing to do with the song. It has to do with a matter of attitude, 1064 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,239 what you're willing to settle for, who you're willing to work with 1065 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,839 and having a good time with my life, enjoying my life. 1066 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,119 That's the most expensive thing in life 1067 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:14,319 and the most valuable things in life, is your relationships, 1068 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,559 the people that you know, the places you've been 1069 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,039 and the experiences you've had. 1070 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:31,839 Oh, Godzilla! 1071 01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:32,519 LIPS: I started out with Robb when I was 14, 15 years old 1072 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:37,439 and we said, "We're going to do it till we're old men." We really meant that. 1073 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:42,759 We had that 15 minutes of fame and then it's gone. 1074 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,079 So that's the way I kind of look at it. 1075 01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:50,199 So I was lucky enough to have that moment, and I've made, basically... 1076 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:57,799 It was enough of a moment that it prolonged and gave me a career that's 30 years long. 1077 01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,359 So it was a great achievement, a fantastic achievement. 1078 01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:04,039 Nothing to ever look down at or not to be proud of 1079 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,559 and that's the way I really look at it. 1080 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:11,319 You don't think about it. Life flies by, man. That's all I'm learning here, you know. 1081 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,399 Before you know it, life's done. And it didn't seem that long. 1082 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,319 That's what Robbo was learning about a lot of things. 1083 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,039 The music lasts forever. 1084 01:19:23,480 --> 01:19:26,279 Maybe the debt does, too, but the bottom line is, 1085 01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:31,319 the music lasts forever and that's the art and that's the most important thing. 1086 01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:35,799 There's tons of bands that can sell millions of records, obviously, 1087 01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,279 but how many bands can you think of, honestly, 1088 01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,919 that have stayed together for 30 years? 1089 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,919 You've got a couple. You've got The Rolling Stones, you've got The Who, 1090 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,079 and you've got Anvil. 89770

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