All language subtitles for 63 Up part2_track3_eng

'In 1964, Granada Television
brought together

'a group of seven-year-olds.'

When I grow up,
I want to be an astronaut.

'We have followed their lives
every seven years.'

I don't want to keep still,
cos life, you know,

don't wait for nobody.

'They talked about their dreams...'

If I could have two girls
and two boys.

'..their ambitions...'

I'd quite like to go into politics.

'..and their fears for the future.'

Life is what happens while
you're waiting for something else.

I don't think life is there
to be regretted.

You've gotta make the most of it
while you've got it.

That's how you become
the person you are.

'It's a picture of how,
any person, how they change.'

'Give me a child until he is seven,
and I will give you the man.'

Balden, let's have
the present tense of vastare.

Vasto, vastas, vast...

..vastat, vastamus, vastatis,
vastant.

Yes, speak up.

'When he was seven, Bruce
was at boarding school.'

Ten-ho!

My heart's desire is to see my
daddy, who is 6,000 miles away.

'His parents divorced.

'At the age of 11,

'Bruce moved to St Paul's School
in London as a boarder.'

You know, I'm... I've been getting
on well with my stepfather.

And I like seeing my father
occasionally.

And he does come over from Rhodesia.

At St Paul's,
I like the companionship,

you know, with other boys.

'At 21, he was at Oxford University,
studying maths.'

Well, there was one job, which I...
I'd quite like to make maps, really.

But there are very few jobs
like that going.

Chris Omalabi?
Yes, sir.

'After Oxford,
he worked in the City for a year,

'then decided to teach.

'He taught in a state school.

So, if you think it cost you 25p...

'It's so different from your own
education,

'where you're teaching now.'

'General education is better
for society, I think.

'Public schools are divisive.'

Do you understand the game?

'I think there is a class society,
and I think public schools may...

'..help its continuance.'

'At 34, Bruce took a sabbatical
and taught in Bangladesh.'

OK, because you've got to get
an X squared, OK?

I see education as a key to it all,
you know, I mean,

I think once your population
becomes educated,

it can think for itself a lot more,
and create wealth,

and create opportunities.

X, good, OK.

The straight line, yes...

'At 42, he was back in the East End,

'as head of the maths department
at a girls' comprehensive school.'

'At 49, we found him teaching
at St Albans.

'An independent school.'

It divides by three.
You don't multiply by three...

Divide.Divide by three.
Divide by three. OK.

'Tell me, then, what's exciting
about teaching here for you?'

'There is a higher academic level
to teach,

'and then you can see
pupils at a more developed level.'

That flash of recognition,

and then engendering their love
of the subject that they...

that I had at their age.

Do your old friends give you
a hard time about what you've done?

They certainly do, they absolutely
do, they say, you know,

"Have we joined the Tory party, the
golf club, the Masons?" You know.

Well, my girlfriend is in Africa,
and I won't,

I don't think I'll have another
chance of seeing her again.

Have you got any girlfriends?

No, no. Not yet.
I'm sure it will come.

Yes, I haven't got married,
or whatever,

and I'm supposing that, you know,

that would have been something
which I hoped had happened.

Well, you're getting on a bit,
are you getting worried?

Well, not particularly.
I mean, I'm always optimistic.

I mean, who knows who I might meet
tomorrow?

And in the middle of a conversation

about something completely
different...

..he just asked if, um...

..if I'd like to marry him. And if
I hadn't been listening carefully,

I'd have missed it completely.

To love and to cherish.

Till death us do part.

We don't argue very much.

Not really, I mean we haven't really
had a sort of full-blown row.

I just think...Our arguments sort
of tend to be two sentences,

and I go off and sulk for 24 hours.

So, is Bruce getting any better
at expressing his feelings to you?

Um...

Mmm...

Hm...

Not...
Not really, by the sound of that.

I always say
I would never divorce him,

but I may well murder him
at some point.

Meaning what?

I mean, I have some infuriating
habits, which...

When he's travelling.
Yeah.

And he gets into arguments
with vending machines.

How has being married to Penny
changed you?

I haven't been lonely,
I've appreciated companionship.

I mean, is there a balance of power,

or do you have to run
with imbalance, or what?

Well, it's...

I wouldn't go against Penny,
life would not be...

..easy, after that, but, um,
you know, generally speaking,

we are in agreement
about most things.

'We may have children,
if in seven years' time or so

'we're living in a slightly bigger
house with a young family,

'that would be nice.'

Come on, then, Henry, get on.

'Bruce and Penny had two sons,
Henry and George.'

On Daddy's head!

Oh, pull out.
Cos they'll take the lead off.

He's worse than ever, Father.

'Are you ambitious for them?'

'Yeah, I mean,
some people work ferociously hard,

'and while that is rewarding,
and they enjoy that,

'and they enjoy the success
and so on,

'you just hope they get
a nice balance to their lives.

'We've always had a family holiday,
and this might be one of the last,

'because the boys are getting older,
19 and 17,

'and they might want to go off
by themselves.'

'If, in the future, were we to offer
the boys basically a free holiday,

'in somewhere exciting
like New York,

'they wouldn't turn it down.'

Oh, so we can't get away on our own?

I don't think we'll ever get away
on our own.Oh, God!

Henry?

The bagels, do you mind
getting them out of the oven?

'Most of my work life is over now,
but I am doing a little bit of work.

'I'm teaching a bit
in Penny's school now.

'But I still have plenty to do.

'Looking after older relatives,
or treasurer for the Quakers.'

Has the issue of money
been important in the household?

Well, that's partly why
I'm still working a bit,

because we have to help the boys
through university.

Each month we pay in
a certain amount

into a common sort of bank account,

and she contributes
more than I do now.

I mean, I'm quite happy to be
kept by Penny in any style to which

I happen to be,
you know, accustomed to.

OK, I just looked up on Twitter,
George, making scrambled eggs...

'And so, she's still
a successful professional?'

'Yes, I mean, she's actually
got quite an important job.

'She's head of sixth form.

'She's in charge of all the A-level
courses, all the UCAS,

'university applications.'

'Are you completely in sync
about bringing up the boys?'

'We are, generally, yes.

'We want to give them a good
moral basis, a good education.'

It's slightly irritating that
neither have got any idea

what they want to do yet,
but that's...

Well, what do you put that down to?
Is that the times they're living in?

Possibly, because in our age,
you tended to have one career.

'Are they both deeply involved
in the Internet?'

'Well, they're both on social media,

'and text, and WhatsApp,
and all that kind of thing.

'There are various things
I can do that they can't do.

'They can't change a plug
or change a light bulb,

'but I can't get on Netflix so...
Oh.

'I have to ask them to help me.'

Yes! Chase it on!

So, is he playing as much,
Bruce, as he used to?

No.

No, and when he does, he usually
manages to pull a muscle, so...

Hey, welcome to Katz's Deli.
How are you doing?Well, thanks.

You guys want waiter service,
or you wanna do self-service?

'I'm trying to get my weight down,
which is pathetic,

'but I should really adjust my diet
as well.

'There's more of a chance
of getting diabetes,

'so, I'm trying to ward that off.

'But I go to the gym, I play golf,
occasionally I play cricket,

'but that's more and more awkward
these days.'

'Is Penny on your case about this?'

'I mean, I suppose
if I asked her to kind of

'be stricter on what I was
allowed to eat, that would help.

'It's less easy to do
when the boys are at home,

'because I can't stand leftovers.'

So, I'll always finish their plates.

OK, now, if they're not there,

I wouldn't have their plates
to finish, so...

'Do you have any fears
for the future?'

'I think disabling, degenerative
conditions linked with old age.'

That... that fills me with dread.

I said to Penny, if I'm going first,
then quickly, you know.

I think discipline is fair enough.

The next farmer,
he gives me nightmares.

I suppose I was too young,
really, to understand it.

And I thought it was a bit severe
at the time,

but then I just got used to it.

In that school, and the two schools
I went after that,

I was beaten many times.

And that's just what happened.

And sometimes you didn't know why
you are being beaten,

but nevertheless it's just,
that's, that's what happened.

Ah, you're, you're a queen-pawn man.

Er, sometimes.

'I think we've
talked about this before,

'about expressing your feelings,
is that still an issue?'

'I think it is.

'Whether it's boarding school life,
or wherever it's happened to be,

'you tend to try and fit in,
and not express yourself so much,'

because that can be disruptive,

and I think, to a certain extent,
I've had a sort of restricted,

if you like, emotional state,
which I've learnt to live with.

'At 63, we took him back
to the school in the East End,

'where he started
his teaching career.'

Looking back, I, I derive most
satisfaction from teaching here.

'You had to be on your toes.
I mean, it was quite edgy.

'But, if the students felt
you were committed to them,

'and their progress, they joined in
with you and worked well.'

I think it opened up my viewpoint
to what Britain is now.

'Living in a council flat
over there,

'coming here, it was a side of
Britain I had never really been in.'

Six times three is 18,
shared by two is nine...

I was hoping that the students would
go on and have successful lives,

and fulfilled lives,
and realise their potential.

What I didn't want them to do is
thinking, because of our background,

this is what we're limited to do.

That anything was possible.

'Have you experienced failure
in any part of your life?'

'I've not had a sort of stunningly
successful education career.'

I've not, say, become
a deputy head, or head teacher,

but I never particularly wanted to,

because you tend to move out
of the classroom.

Fill out the gaps
on the board there.

I think we should give most
of our money to the poor people.

I'd help people.

If I had a chance.

Basically, we don't care that many
countries are incredibly poor,

we simply don't care, I mean...

'At 34, you seemed to have
really strong ideals.

'They were very powerful,
and powerfully expressed.'

And then, suddenly,
there's been a switch.

Well, partly,
I think it's having a family,

because when you get a family,
your priorities change,

and you start looking after
your family

more than looking further afield.

'You look back at life
and is it a good feeling?'

'Lots to look on with fondness,
and pleasure, and good memories.

'A happy marriage, and two
fine boys that we're proud of,

'and a body of work that I had
my successes with, some failures.'

But still plenty to do,
it's not all over yet.

Well, I know he is her,
and he loves her.

I don't, I love him!

I'd like to be able
to have a happy family.

I mean, I know that it's not possible
to be happy all the time,

but as much of the time
that it was possible.

'By the time she was 21,
Jackie had married Mick,

'and moved to the outskirts
of London.

'She and Mick had decided early on

'that they didn't want to have
children.'

'Basically, I would say
because I'm far too selfish.

'I enjoy doing what I want,
when I want, and how I want,

'and, er...'

certainly, at the moment,

..can't see
any way around that.

'By 34, she was divorced.'

We decided between the two of us,
we knew it wasn't going any further.

We both knew,
I think, at the end of the day,

we would be happier leading
our own lives.

And... this one on!

Oh, yeah!

'I had a brief,
very sweet relationship,

'the result of which was Charlie.'

Oi, give us a cuddle!

'I don't really want Charlie
to be an only.

'I'd love him to have brothers
and sisters.'

Right, Charlie,
please eat it all up, and James.

Thanks, Mum.
Good boy.

And last, but not least...

..are you gonna eat that one for me?

'After her relationship with
Charlie's father ended, she met Ian,

'and they moved to Scotland
and had two sons.

'By 42, they had split up.

Has Charlie shown any interest
as to his father?

No.

Ian's his father,
as far as he's concerned.

He's done everything with him,
been everything to him,

taught him everything.

Go on, Lee, go and get them.

'At 49, despite the split,

'the family were living
in the same area of Scotland.

'They are still there.'

And how the boys doing?

Really well.

They're all working away,
which is nice,

especially in this
day and age.

'Charlie's still doing his cheffing.

'He seems to be happy where he is.'

There you go, Chef.

James is in a warehouse.

'Lee is still in the Army.

'He's a medic, basically.'

I've still got two boys
living at home, which I love, but...

they should really have moved on
by now.

It was really nice to see you.

This is my birthday celebration,

and I've invited family and friends,

and obviously my
beautiful grandchildren at the end.

That's Mia, that's Tyler.

My mum, because she's got five
girls,

she's had seven years bad luck,

that's why she's got five girls.

'I was 30 years old
when I lost my mum.'

And my dad was my rock.

Oh, nice!

'But as he got older,
dementia set in,

'he went in for an operation,
and he had the operation done.

'My oldest sister Jan went in.

'She rang me,
and said, "He won't talk to me."'

And I said to him,
"Dad, what are you doing?"

"What's going on,
what are you doing?"

And he said,
"I'm slowly killing myself."

And that...

..was...

that was really awful.

I have to run around
with the kids all day.

'He stopped all his medication.

'He knew... he was dying,
and he wanted to get it over with.'

He really wanted to be wherever
my mum and my step-mum and that are.

So, I imagine they had a big party
when he got there.

My mum and my step-mum might have
had a disagreement about it,

but, you know...

'Unfortunately,
on 18 November, Ian, the boys' dad,

was severely injured
in a road traffic accident.

He subsequently died
of those injuries.

That was a...

..monumental...

..mess.

'He was at a zebra crossing.

'The light to the traffic was red,

'the light on the crossing
was green.'

He walked out,
and she took him off his feet.

'Every bone in his body was broken.

'The boys were devastated.

'Charlie was absolutely terrible.

'He had to have counselling.

'In all, it was nearly
four and a half years

'before we got any justice.'

And we got a guilty verdict,
she had run him over,

and it wasn't anything his fault.

Not half bad, good.

'And did you get any compensation
out of it at the end of the day?'

'No, no. Not at all.'

The boys got...

..I think they got about
£3,000 each, that was it.

That was it.
Great, eh?

Yeah, yeah, that's all
their dad's life was worth.

'As much as Ian and I
didn't live with each other,

it didn't mean that we
didn't love each other.

I couldn't live with him, but...

I don't think I've ever stopped
loving him.

If you think that getting married,
as far as we are concerned,

is a case of going to work,
coming home, cook tea for hubby,

going to bed, getting up, going
to work, you're totally mistaken.

When we were younger,
I kept thinking,

"Why is he asking me
questions about...

"marriage, and men, and...?

"Why is he not asking me questions
about how the country is?"

Do you think you
settled down too young?

No. I've married,
and we do things together, or...

'But I felt that you treated us,
as women, totally different.

And I didn't like it.

Now, I appreciate that
when we started at seven,

most women were in the kitchen,
or were bringing up children.

There weren't many career women.

But by the time we hit 21,

I really thought you'd have
had a better idea of...

..how the world works, shall I say?

Did you meet enough men
before you decided who to marry?

I've been married a year, and...

But you still asked us the most
mundane, domestic questions,

and I really wanted to go, "Argh!"

So, by 49, I actually thought,
you know what, no more,

I'm not having this any more.

And that's why
I got very vocal with you.

What happened at 21?

You asked me if I'd had enough
experience with men

before I got married.

And I thought that was actually
an insulting question,

and I got very angry,
and we actually stopped filming

because of it.

I mean, I don't know!
I don't know what...

I was really angry that you even
thought you could get...

You wouldn't have asked some of
the other people in this programme

that question.

And I just didn't feel
that you had any idea...

of the changing role of women
in the UK at that point.

I've had the opportunities in life
that I've wanted.

I'd say I've had more than Susie.
You've made.

Yeah, right, you've made!

'As you get older, you realise
just how lucky you've been.

'And I do think I've been lucky.

'I walked out of school,
straight into any job I wanted.'

'Could you have done
more education?'

'Oh, yeah. And I should have done.'

All I wanted to do was go out
and earn money.

And that was short-sightedness
that did that, that wasn't...

It wasn't that I particularly
wanted to go to university,

but I probably should have done
further education.

'So, where are we?'

To get up this one, it's not so bad.

'We're in Norfolk.

'This is my sister's home.

'Both our families are grown,

'so, we get to spend
a lot more time together.

'Which is brilliant.'

James, you watch,
you're catching up to him.

'I was working up here
until very recently,

'but they've discovered that
I've got rheumatoid arthritis,

'so, at the moment
that's put work on hold.'

Are you all right?
Yeah, yeah.

Feet.
Oh!

'Rheumatoid arthritis can flare-up,

'and then it can ease down,
it can flare-up.

'And it's so frustrating.'

You just have to live with it,
Michael, you can't...

..you can't let it rule your life.

'Jackie has been getting disability
benefits for over 20 years.

'For nearly a decade,

'the Government has been reassessing
all benefits.'

'I can understand that
the Government needed to make cuts.'

They have people there who
they knew...

..would never get better, and they
still put down, "Fit to work."

'I waited nine months
for my appeal to come through.'

I had to live on £40 a week.

'I was lucky.

'I have family that could help me
with money,

'but a lot of people
haven't got that behind them.'

People were killing themselves

because they were getting into
so much debt.

I would like to get married
when I grow up.

'I've been on my own for a long
while, Michael, with the kids.

'Either men my age
don't want that hassle,

'because my kids are still at home,

'they can't move out.'

They can't afford to.

Or...

..it was just, you know, sort of
a quickie round the bike shed,

and I wasn't really wanting
that either, so...

'I actually rang my sister one day,

'and I said, "Listen, if I need
a plus one, will you come?"

'And she says, "Of course I will."

'So, everything now that I get
invited to, if Ray can make it,

'she's there.'

And we decided that we'd come up
here for a meal for Christmas.

'And we go on holidays,
and considering when we were young,

'and living at home...'

we could have hit each other
as soon as said good morning,

'but the minute she got married
and moved out,

'I was there every weekend.

'We all have ups and downs,

'and my downs are always coinciding
with me ringing Ray,

'and Ray then...'

talks to me and helps me
get through it

and sort out a way
to get through things.

I mean, what's your feeling about
having been in the programme,

and survived it?

I've done more than survived it.
I've loved it.

We're all still alive.
You know I've loved it.

Oh, good.
I have.

People always, you know, "Oh, my
God, you had a right go at him,

"what was that all about?"
And I'm like...

..I told him off.

I didn't kill him!

Jacqueline, what do you think
about boys fighting?

Well, they're...

'When you look at the Seven Up!,
do you think, "That's me"?'

Actually, I think there's
a core of it that, that's...

that rings true.

Because I've never really changed,
Michael,

I mean, you gotta be honest.

I was always talkative
and a bit of a pain in the butt.

♪ If I say that I love you

♪ And you know it's true...♪

'I think your character,
perhaps, is set by seven.

'I just don't think you can predict
what that child's gonna be.

'Because I think... at seven,
your whole world's open.

'Mia now goes, "Do I have to do
homework at high school?"

And I go, "Yes."

"And then you have to do at uni."

"What's uni?"

"University, because you're going."

She looks at me, and she goes,
"Am I?"

I said, "Yeah, you are.

"Because then,
the world's your oyster."

I don't want...

..her to have tunnel vision,

which I think I had
when I was younger.

Oh, dear...
I'm feeling a bit chilly.

Really? I don't know
about anybody else, yeah.

'Children need to know that they
are capable of doing anything.'

If you open a child's mind,
to the possibilities, it's...

Oh, it's probably the best thing
you can do.

I don't think you
ought to go to university

if you want to be an astronaut.

Watch this.

'Peter and Neil were childhood
friends, growing up in Liverpool.'

'Peter went to a comprehensive
school,

'and went on to get a history degree
from London University.'

I would like to think that
democracy is here to stay.

Perhaps we haven't got
full democracy,

in fact, we probably haven't, so...

..it's a pretty good system.

I feel like I'm dragged into party
politics, you know,

basically,
it's the most incompetent,

uncaring, bloody shower
we've ever had.

'After 28 Up, Peter decided
not to continue in the film.

I pulled out because of...

..the responses
and the reactions that...

my participation drew,

particularly in the tabloid press.

They decided
they were going to portray me

as the "angry young red"
in Thatcher's England.

'I think I was articulating
at the time

'what a lot of people of my age
and my background were thinking.

'And I was an easy target.'

They're part of it,
they perpetuate it.

Was it painful coming back?

Do you regret coming back?

Yeah, of course I do.

I'm, I am sitting here talking
to you now, and I'm squirming.

I'm squirming, I'm thinking
every two minutes or so,

I'm replaying
what I just said to you

and thinking, "Oh, my God,
you idiot, why did you say that?"

So, you know, there's that.

'So, why did you come back?'

'Because I want to promote the music
and the band I'm in.'

♪ But when he hit that bank... ♪

'I'd always played in rock bands.

'Some of them
spectacularly bad bands.

'The band has essentially
been a duo.

'It originally was a trio,

'and then we lost Frank
three years ago.'

So, we're the...

essentially the core of it,
and people come in and play with us,

and record with us,
and then drift off again.

Once Carolyn Tetford said
she was going... she loved me.

What do you think about it?

And I'm going to marry her
when I grow up.

So, what you want to do?
Do you just want...?

'We were working in an office
together,

'and we joined the office band,

'and that's how
we got to know each other.'

'Was it love at first sight?'

Well, I had a sneaking
suspicion that Pete liked me,

because he was really rude
and sarcastic to me all the time,

so, I thought, "Oh, I think
he's probably quite keen."

Oh, no, that's not true.

And how's married life been
over the last seven years?

That's a loaded question.

If ever I heard one!

It's absolute bliss.

Totally, yeah!

'When you live with someone
for a long time,

things change and you adapt,

'but you get to a point
where you don't have to have

'preamble conversations.'

You don't have to...
fall out, it's just not worth...

spending a long time sulking
with each other, is it?

Um, true.

That's why I don't do it any more!

♪ Always blue

♪ Every day... ♪

'Writing's just something
I feel compelled to do.'

'You've got a lot more relaxed
about playing me new stuff,

'and not getting really annoyed

'if I say,
"That might need a bit of work."'

'So, you used to be careful
about criticising him?'

Yeah.

But you've got better about
accepting criticism as well.

A little.

Yeah, a little.

We met seven years ago,

what's happened to the two of you
up to now?

Three years ago, my mother died.

Frank died the same year.

In the case of my mother, that was
the normal course of events,

she was in her late 80s,
she... she'd had dementia.

But, of course, you know,

you're never old enough
to lose both your parents,

because then you feel...

"I'm next in the firing line."

I have to put my head
above the parapet now.

And do you have any plans
for children?

Not at the moment, no.

I haven't really thought about it
seriously.

Our son has moved out
into his own home.

He's not very far away.

Our daughter is doing a masters
at Goldsmiths in London.

And she's based at home,

but she's spending
a lot of her time in London.

Because most of the stuff
you come out of school with

is absolutely useless.

You just don't need it.

I mean, do think your children will
get the opportunities you've had,

or do you think life is closing in?

Well, I think,
just at the moment,

it appears life is maybe closing in
a little.

'I do think that the future is not
maybe as bright

'as it would have been for a kid
coming out of university,

'like me, in the late '70s.

'They're going to university,

'they're ending up
working in call centres,

'in hospitality, it's getting
hellishly difficult for them

'to get onto the property ladder.'

I think maybe they're going to be
the first generation that

don't have it better
than their parents.

Teachers are undervalued
and underrated,

And the whole,
the system is beginning to crumble.

'I still get very angry
about things.'

Probably not so much about things
going on in the house, more...

about things going on
in the wider world.

When I was seven years old,
when all this started,

it was effectively illegal
to be actively gay,

it was illegal to have an abortion,
we were still executing people.

You could put up a sign saying,
"No blacks or Irish."

And so, clearly, we've become a more
tolerant and more inclusive,

less prejudiced society
than we were.

I think it's probably a more
peaceful world than it was.

I would also say that we have a way
to go on equal treatment of women.

I was a member of the Labour Party
for most of my adult life,

I am no longer.

Tell me your feelings about Brexit.

Without wishing to sound
patronising,

I don't think a lot of them
knew what they were voting for,

I think they just saw this as a
chance to kick what they perceived

as an establishment
from which they were excluded.

I mean, obviously,
I've got to get a job,

I don't want to laze around
on the dole

for months and months,
I'd go mad.

What is your working life
at the moment?

I still work...

..two days a week in the day job,
the civil service.

'I am currently writing a novel,
midway through the first draft.

'The hardest thing has been to face
down the blank sheet of paper

'and to actually start.'

What have been, for you,
the best times?

I knew you'd ask me this,
because you're, you're gonna hope

I repeat what I said about
the 1977 European Cup final.

Tommy Smith scoring
the second goal in Rome...

..definitely.

One of the all-times.

Which game was that?

Which game was that!

And I'm under a strict warning
not to repeat that.

And...

That was the European Cup final,
1977.

Catch a boy, and kiss a boy.
And kiss a boy.

Sometimes catch...
We get our own back...

So, do you think these Up series
has any value?

I think it's more difficult for me

than the others to stand back
and be wholly objective about that,

because it's been part of my life
as far back as I can remember.

Last time you did the show,

I wouldn't let you look on social
media, and I censored everything,

because people can be
really hurtful.

Except the good bits.
Yeah, I let you see the good bits.

She let me see them.

Well, if I can't be an astronaut,
I'd like to be, um,

a Bridewell Sergeant in the police
force, like my dad is.

One of the concepts behind this is

"show me a child when he seven,
and I will show you the man."

Do you think that's true?

I think, as I've got older,
I'm probably more inclined

to think that
there is something to that.

I can look at myself and think,

"Yes, there is something
of that child still in me."

I think, on the whole,
you are formed

certainly before
you're in your teens.

What do you want out of life?

The satisfaction of knowing...

..that I've left
some sort of imprint.

Rather than just lived out my life.

♪ Someday will rise

♪ That silver way... ♪

'Are there any regrets you have?'

'I think you have to move on
with your life,

'and you learn
from things you've done,

'but that's the tapestry
of a lifetime.

'The only serious regret
I would ever have is

'if I came to the end of my life
and thought,

"I wish I'd tried that."'

♪ When you're blue... ♪

'And I want to get to the end of my
life not with that sort of regret.'

♪ Always blue... ♪

'I want to create something
that will...

'..live on, and I want my life

'to have meant something
in that sense.'

I'm going to work in
Woolworths.

'Lynn grew up in
the East End of London.'

..so that it doesn't scratch
the bottom.

Why am I using a wooden spoon,
please, to stir the saucepan?

Well, in a grammar school,
I don't think you find many girls

that really want to do metalwork
or woodwork.

We had a teacher at school...

that, his favourite reply was, um,

"All you girls want to do is walk
out, get married, have babies,

"and push a pram down the street,

"with a fag hanging out
the side of your mouth."

'At 21, she began a career
as a children's librarian,

'starting off in a mobile library
in East London.

Have I stamped yours?
Yes.Yes.

I've not stamped yours.

Sleeping Beauty.

'Teaching children
the beauty of books,

'and watching their faces as books
unfold to them, is just fantastic.'

To work with children of that age,
you've got to love them,

and I love children.

'Because of cuts
in the education budget,

'the mobile library was shut down.

'At 42,
Lynn was working at Bethnal Green.'

You can draw, better than I can!

Good morning!

'When we went back at 49,
she was still there.'

What about you?
Good morning!

For the last 30 years,

I've banged my head
against a brick wall

to maintain children's services,

but this time around,
no-one's listening.

'They say that the work that I do,
that anybody can do it.

'There would be no specialist
running it.

One!

I may not have a job.

You can speak to me today.

'Despite the cuts, and constant
changing of jobs in the library,

'has it been worth it?'

'Yeah, very much.'

'All these things
I've said over the years

'are flowing through my mind
at the moment, um,'

but, yes, it has been worth it.

Hmm.

And you better cut it,
because otherwise I'm gonna cry.

'At that library review,
I got a job.

'Two years later, another review.'

And... cutting departments, again.

That time, I didn't get a job.

If I could, I would have,
um, two girls and two boys.

Yes, so would I.

I've been married a year and...
A couple of months.

Um, you do think,
"Christ, what have I done?"

'When she was 19, she married Russ.

'They had two daughters,
Sarah and Emma.'

I'm very much geared
to the family unit.

I mean, us all...

we do things together all the time.

'At 42, the girls were both doing
very well at school.'

All right, darling?
Yeah.

Neither of the girls
went to university?

No. No.
Was that disappointing to you?

No.
Their choice, we discussed it.

They felt that the academic side
wasn't for them.

'When Emma was 19,
she had a son, Connor.

'Nine years later, she had Riley.'

'How much did he weigh
when he was born?

'Two pounds, and a quarter ounce.

'As soon as he was born,
they took him straight through

'to the Neonatal Intensive Care
Unit, and he's absolutely fine.'

'And how's old Connor doing?'

'He's doing great.'

'How does he deal with Riley?'

'He loves Riley to bits,
but Riley is just a two-year-old.'

The hunting dogs are in this one.

'Sarah and Adam have got married
since we last saw you.

'They've got a little boy called
Harry, he's getting on fine.'

I didn't know
I was getting into this!

Are you all right?
Yeah, I think so.

This is unbelievable.

Look, look up!

'Russ is still such
a great support for me,

'and he is still my soulmate...

Take care, I love you!

'..after all this time.'

We've flourished together.

I had an all-white wedding.
All white.

We were both in white,
and my bridesmaid was in white.

'37 years, gone extremely quickly.

We've just grown together.

We learned to be friends
before we had children.

We established a solid foundation
from which to work from.

All right, watch it, you!
You'll go to bed as well.

'When she was 35,
Lynn was having health problems.'

'They stuck all these tubes
up inside me,

'and discovered I've got
these veins...'

up here, that shouldn't be there.

In your brain?
Mm-hm.

And what can they do about it?

Not a lot at the moment.

Well, it's never gonna go away,
I've still got this...

..brain malformation.

It will always be there.

Obviously I had it from birth.

Oh, it's just problems, Neil.

'Do you think about dying a lot?'

'No, doesn't worry me at all.

'I think my dad taught me that.

'He wasn't scared of death at all,
and...'

it's the people
that are left behind...

..that...

..take the brunt of someone dying.

So, how long ago is it
since your mother died?

Five years.
Five years? Mm.

And how long before that
did you know that she was...

in serious trouble... with health?
We didn't.We didn't.

48 hours' notice.

Not even that.
Not even that.

Very, very, very sudden.

'She was minding Riley at the park,

'and she accidentally
got in the way of the...'

the swing hit her on the...
on the arm.

She had quite a lot of bruising.

This caused a poisoning of her
system, but she self-medicated,

and went to bed
because of the pain,

when she should have been,
really, hydrating herself,

so, eventually,
her kidneys shut down.

We knew none of this was going on.

It went on from there,
it caused a domino effect.

Her organs shut down very rapidly,

and she tried to go to work
the following day,

she had a part-time job
at the hospital,

so, when she more or less collapsed
in the hospital, they admitted her.

Couldn't have chosen a better day.

'The hospital had kept telling us

'that she just needs to be
rehydrated,

"'We'll put on a drip for 48-hours."

'So, we didn't know...'

that anything sinister was going on,

and, was it three hours later,

we get the call
to say that she collapsed,

and we need to get back in.

We trusted what we were being told,
and we left her, you know,

I kissed on the forehead,

and said to her, "We'll be back
first thing in the morning."

We don't know what she went through
in those three hours.

So, yes, it's not our fault,
of course it's not,

but you do hold a lot of guilt.

They had all the pieces
of the puzzle in front of them...

..but they didn't put it together.

'We talk about her every day.

'She's there,
she's in our lives still, every day,

'but I like to focus on
the happy, the positive times.

'You know, our kids need us
to carry on and, you know,

'we've got our lives still to live,
and Mum wouldn't definitely

'have wanted us to spend it
constantly crying over her.'

'No, on a daily basis, it is hard,

'but I like to think about Mum
and memories...'

and it's only when
you start to then...

speak to other people about it,

that then the emotion kind of
really kicks in.

And I don't think I realised
just how much she was adored

by, like, the wider community
around here.

In grateful memory of Lynn,

for all that she's done
for the children of Poplar

and Tower Hamlets over 27 years,

we are both pleased, and very proud,

to dedicate this new library area
to Lynn.

'That's what she dedicated
her life to.

'35 years of looking after
the children

'in such a diverse community.

'Every child, she just gave that
time and that commitment to.'

Right, the story
I've got for you this morning

is called The Magic Bicycle.

'She loved it, and she was brilliant
at it, you know,

'she just had a way with them,
they'd just open up to her.'

'The kids that she worked with,

'she'd become a governor, and then
chair of governors at the school.

'She just loved kids, basically.'

'There's things
we all do that...

"'Oh, I wish I'd done that
different,"

'but you take it on board, and...

'..you learn from that experience.

'My family have always come first.'

'So, for you, that's...?'

'I'm happy with the way my life
has gone.'

'And what about the other children?

'Where are they now?

'What are they doing?'

I read The Observer and The Times.

I feel like bundling in when
there's already a go...

when there's already a fight.

What does university mean?

When I grow up,
I want to be an astronaut,

but if I can't be an astronaut,
I think I'll be a coach driver.