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- In 1964
Granada Television brought

together a group of seven year olds,

from all over the country
and from all walks of life.

- If I could I would have
two girls and two boys.

- I read the Financial Times.

- They talked
about their dreams,

their ambitions and their
fears for the future.

- Everything throughout the
years, it all landed on my head.

- For nearly half a century,

in a unique ground-breaking
series of films,

we have followed their
lives every seven years.

They are now 46.

- Well my girlfriend is in Africa

and I don't think I'll have another chance

of seeing her again.

- Have you got a girlfriend?

- No, no not yet.

I'm sure it will come, but not yet.

I mean I do think a lot of
people think too much about it.

I think I would very much
like to become involved

in my own family for a start.

That's a need that I
feel I ought to fulfil

and would like to fulfil
and would do it well.

Yes I haven't got married
or whatever and I suppose

that would have been something
which I hoped had happened.

- [Michael Well, you're getting on a bit.

Are you getting worried?

- Well not particularly I
mean, I'm always optimistic,

I mean who knows who
I might meet tomorrow.

- And in the middle of
a conversation about

something completely different
he just asked if I'd like

to marry him, and if I hadn't
been listening carefully

I would have missed it completely.

- To love and to cherish.

- 'Til death us do part.

We don't argue very much.

- Not really, I mean we haven't
really had a full blown row.

- No, our arguments
tend to be two sentences

and I go off and sulk for 24 hours.

- So is Bruce getting any better

at expressing his feelings to you?

- Erm, mm, mm--

- Not really

by the sound of that.

Yeah, I think so, yeah.

- And we may have children I don't know,

I mean if in seven years
time or so we're living

in a slightly bigger
house with a young family

that would be nice.

I mean I don't want to
pin all my hopes on it

and nothing happens.

We are quite old, I can see
bringing up say teenage children

when you're in your fifties
might be a bit strange.

Come on then Henry get on.

- Bruce and Penny
had two sons, Henry and George.

On daddy's head.

- I mean, seven
years ago you were taking a bit

of a pasting from them.

- Well yes exactly and that's, you know,

if they sat on me now I wouldn't
be able to get up again.

And in the second year I was in rooms

at the top of that staircase there.

- Bruce and
Penny took the boys away

for a weekend to Oxford
to see Bruce's old college

and to watch their father play cricket.

- It's just nice drifting along the river

without making too much noise.

You know, if you can
see the odd the wildlife

and so on you come up on
it unawares kind of thing.

- Muddy water and a spider, ta.

- One of you link up one, and one of you--

I think it's more of a
father son thing to go along

and watch and support.

And we always have lunch then tea

and then a barbecue afterwards.

- We're not very good at this are we?

- Ever since Cornwall it
was to be no more camping.

- My heart's desire is to see my daddy

who's six thousand miles away.

- What happened
between you and your dad?

- I suppose the separation
and the distance.

When I was 14 I went out to Zimbabwe,

and then later when he
retired to England we felt

that there was a lot of distance

between us and ground to make up.

Okay.

I think it's going to take quite a while.

The boys are still young
enough for us all three

to fit in to a small tent.

I suppose it's a bit of
dad's and lads and getting

to know each other and forming
a relationship and so on.

- Under your weight.
- Oh lord,

that's not gonna go in.

Okay, boys, what's that then?

They always come first.

I mean we've got our work and so on,

so we'll do a variety of things with them.

I'll do it later, dear.

I'm off to play cricket.

- It's all right George.
- Is the forecast

to rain tonight?

- We're riding and we turn

to go sideways, commence.

- When he was seven
Bruce was at boarding school.

- Tallyho!

- He went on to Oxford

where he got a maths degree.

- You can show that this is irreducible

then you do a transformation
on this polynomial,

x equal to t plus two.

- After Oxford he
worked in the city for a year,

then decided to teach.

He taught in a state school.

- Yes sir!

- General education is
better for society I think.

There is a class society,

and I think public schools
may help it's continuance.

- At 35 Bruce took a sabbatical

and taught in Bangladesh.

- The straight
line, yes keep going,

keep going, keep going--
- At 42 he was back

in the East End as head
of the maths department

at a girls comprehensive school.

♪ Hallelujah ♪

- At 49 we found him teaching

at St Albans, an independent school.

♪ Ah ah ah ah ♪

- In the early days the school was

in the Abbey going back to 948.

- 948?
- Yes so the head

quite likes to say we're in
our third millennium, you know.

- So the schools
over a thousand years old?

- Yes in one form or another.

You have to make x a
subject of this equation.

You've got to get x on it's own

so what's the first thing we do?

- I multiplied both sides by--

- Has it been
a kind of compromise

of political principals for you this?

- Well I would say have
a million angels in front

of every teacher who's
prepared to slog away

at an inner city
comprehensive, make way make,

way this is somebody who is prepared

to turn up each day and do that job.

- Do your old
friends give you a hard time

about what you've done?

- They certainly do, they absolutely do.

They say have we joined the Tory party,

the golf club, the Masons, you know.

I'm quite happy just being
an ordinary maths teacher

for the not many years that
I've got left actually.

So I'm quite happy, I'm not ambitious now.

- Yep.
- Chase it up.

- So do you
enjoy watching cricket?

- I can watch it for short periods.

It's a sort of a sport tax on Bruce.

He plays cricket, I go and shop.

Oh, yeah yeah yeah.

- So is he playing
as much, Bruce, as he used to?

- No, no and when he
does he usually manages

to pull a muscle so.

- But they lost by about 70 runs

and our team lost by about 70 runs.

At the end of the game
somebody is nominated

to where that ridiculous garment

and I think bringing you lot along

for the weekend had a lot to do

with me winning the jacket this time.

- So the jacket is
not an enviable thing to win.

- No no.

Well going to Africa
and try and teach people

who are not civilised
to be more or less good.

It all springs from that in
God and Christ I suppose.

- Some people often will say

that the bully is upset about something

in their own lives and so when
they're bullying they're--

- I suppose I'm taking them to Quakers

so that they learn the Christian stories

and a lot of what's
embedded in our culture.

They are good moral tales that which

when they reflect upon
they may give them a sense

of right and wrong and so on.

- One way or another, we'll
get sort of drawn in--

- We like the ethos of
tolerance and understanding.

- The boys also
go to a local Quaker school

where Penny teaches.

- Everybody in the school from
the youngest 2 1/2 year old

in the nursery to the headmaster is known

by their first names,
and there is no uniform,

and very few formal rules.

- Hello, watch out, 'cause
I'll take Milly if--

- She's worse than ever father.

- Are you ambitious for them?

- Yeah, I mean, some
people work ferociously hard

and while that's rewarding
and they enjoy that

and they enjoy the success and so on,

you just hope they get a
nice balance to their lives.

- What are your fears

for the future with the boys?

- That they don't
fulfil their potential,

that they're lead astray in
some way, drugs or something.

They end up unhappy with
regrets about not having done

as well as they could.

When you boys fight, what a
night we're gonna have here.

- Right, if I wake up to find

anybody clutching my genitals.
- George!

They're very good company
but they will grow apart,

you know, eventually leave
home and we won't see them

so often and in a way
I'll miss them dreadfully

but that's the natural order of things.

And just think how uncomfortable mummy is

in her bed and breakfast.

But just remember when we're in a tent,

the Baldwin family are
a non-farting family.

- Thank you father for that.
- Dad shut up.

- I'm going to work in Woolworths.

♪ If you said that you'd leave me ♪

- Lynn grew up
in the East End of London

- Why am I using
a wooden spoon please

to stir this saucepan?
- Yeah, that's right.

- Well in a grammar school
I don't think you find

many girls that really want
to do metalwork or woodwork.

- No.

- At 21 she began a career

as a children's librarian starting off

in a mobile library in East London.

- Have I stamped yours?
- Yes.

- Yes, I've not stamped
yours, "Sleeping Beauty."

Teaching children the beauty
of books is just fantastic.

To work with children of that
age you've got to love them

and I love children.

- Because of the
cuts in the education budget,

the mobile library was shut down.

At 42 Lynne was working at Bethnal Green.

- You can draw better than I can.

Good morning.

- When we went back
at 49, she was still there.

- Good morning, what
about you, good morning.

For the last 30 years I've banged my head

against a brick wall to
maintain children's services,

but this time round no one's listening.

They say that the work that
I do that anybody can do it.

There would be no specialist running it.

One.
- One.

- I may not have a job.

At that library review I got a job.

Two years later another review.

And cutting departments again.

That time I didn't get the job.

- Has it been worth it all?

- Yeah very much.

All these things that I've
said over the years are flying

through my mind at the moment,

but yes it has been worth it.

- Hmm.
- And you better cut it

'cause otherwise I'm going to cry.

Fortunately I was over 50
and I could draw my pension.

We decided we can downsize.

We'll move out, smaller property,

there's only the two of us at home now,

and we'd be great.

Then the crash came.

And then Riley was born,

and what I thought was stress was nothing.

- Riley is one
of Lynn's three grandsons.

How much did he weigh when he was born?

- Two pounds and a quarter ounce.

As soon as he was born
they took him straight

through to the neonatal
intensive care unit.

Three, how many have you got?

- Yeah yah.
- Yeah.

He was put on oxygen,
monitors on, tubes coming out

of everywhere and he's
absolutely fine thanks

to the NICU Unit at William
Harvey Hospital in Ashford.

- I've
got to go to work darling,

give me a kiss.
- Mummy's going to work.

Say bye bye mummy.
- Right, see you later.

- Riley has an
older brother, Connor.

- Erm, for the last eighteen months

or so I've actually had Riley full time.

If I could I'd have
two girls and two boys.

I've been married a year
and a couple of months.

You do think, Christ what have I done.

- When she
was 19 she married Russ.

They had 2 daughters, Sarah and Emma.

- I'm very much
geared to the family unit.

I mean us all we do things
together all the time.

- At 42 the
girls were both doing

very well at school.

- Alright darling?
- Yeah.

- Neither of the
girls went to university?

- No, no.

- Was that disappointing to you?

- No, their choice, we discussed it,

it's what they wanted to do.

They felt that the academic
side wasn't for them.

Sorry.

- So was the arrival
of Connor a shock to you?

- No, well yeah but,
she was 19, she's old enough.

Oh look he's coming after you.

Look, he's coming over here to see.

- And how's old Connor doing?

- He's doing great.

He's off to his new secondary school,

keeps telling me he's nearly as tall as me

but I keep saying no you've
got a while to go yet.

- How does he deal with Riley?

- He loves Riley to bits but
Riley is just a two year old.

Sarah and Adam have got
married since we last saw you.

They've got a little boy called Harry.

He's getting on fine.

Sarah having just had Harry was put

in the same boat as I was.

The day before she was
due to go back to work

after maternity leave, made redundant.

- Yes, there used
to be a lot more sub species

but with various breeding
they've gone extinct.

- And she's now
trained as a child minder.

She's doing absolutely brilliantly.

- The other one comes as well.

- Wow.

- And is Emma
still in the same job?

- Yeah.
- Is that going okay?

- I mean with the
recession work dropped

off an awful lot but it seems
to be picking up again now.

- You can't go over though.

- So Russ took
early retirement too

so what's happened with him?

- Because of the
crash he picked up a job.

Instead of the two part time
jobs he got a full time job.

- So we are looking
at a much longer working life

than perhaps we thought?

- Yeah for everyone.

The goalposts keep highering.

People that thought when they started work

that they were going to retire at 60,

draw their state pension as
well, it's totally changed.

- They come round and mop
the floor and then a couple

of minutes later another
waitress come over.

- I'm not politically
minded but I still believe

that they haven't got a
clue what they're doing.

Some people are never ever
going to recover from it.

It's unfortunately going to
be quite devastating for them.

We've no left wing Labour Party anymore.

Tony Blair saw to that.

They all via to the right.

- I didn't know I was getting
in to this.

- Are you alright?
- Yeah I think so.

- This is unbelievable.
- You step up to that mate.

- No, look out!
- Russ is still

such a great support for me,
and he is still my soul mate.

You take care I love you.

After all this time, we flourish together.

I had an all white wedding, all white.

We were both in white and
my bridesmaid was in white.

37 years, gone extremely quickly,
we've just grown together.

We learnt to be friends
before we had children',

we established a solid foundation
from which to work from.

- Think of how fit it's going to make you.

- Put that in your script.

- So for you that's--

- I'm happy with the way my life has gone.

I just don't--
- Grandad brave?

- I'm still a Governor, I'm still Chair

of Governors at St Saviours.

Just been appointed for another
four year term of office

from the London Diocese
and Boarder Schools.

I must be doing something right.

- I read the Financial Times.

- I read the Observer and The Times.

- What do you like about it?

- Well I like, I usually
look at the headlines

and then read about them, about it.

When I leave this school
I'm going to Colet Court,

and then I will be going to
Westminster Boarding School

if I pass the exam.

And then we think I'm going
to Cambridge and Trinity Hall.

- John went to Westminster.

Then on to read law at
Christchurch Oxford.

- I'm thinking of following a legal career

with a view to ending in Parliament.

- Might be at the bar.

- Doing what?
- Perhaps chancery practise.

I now have a career, I'm a barrister.

Other than that life chugs
along in varying degrees.

Well in a sense not very much has changed

in my career over the last 14 years,

I'm still a barrister I
still wear a curly white wig.

The only visible difference I
suppose is a wear a silk gown

because I'm now a QC.

So week after next is ideal--

- Yeah, the week after next.

- Except for Monday, I'm going out--

I do largely litigation.

I enjoy the work which is
intellectually stimulating

and always interesting.

I'm blessed with an
exceptionally nice group

of people in these Chambers
who I really get on with.

I've been ushers at many
members of chambers weddings.

I've been god father to least
three chambers children.

It's a really nice close
set of friends here

and I think I'm very blessed
in my work environment.

- I'm going to Charter
House and after that

to Trinity Hall Cambridge.

- Andrew went to Charter House

and Cambridge where he read law.

- I'd like to be a solicitor
and also fairly successful.

- At 28 Andrew was a Solicitor.

By 35 he'd become a partner.

Later, he joined the legal department

of a large British industrial company.

A few years after they we
taken over by a German firm.

- There was a bit of uncertainty

when you get two large
organisations coming together,

you know who was gonna have
a job at the end of it,

who was gonna be made redundant.

I was fortunate enough
that I still had a job

at the end of it, and
it's worked very well.

When boys go round with girls
they don't pay attention

to what they're doing.

For instance, my
grandmother had an accident

because a boyfriend was
kissing his girlfriend

in the street.

- By 35 John had married Claire,

the daughter of a former
Ambassador to Bulgaria.

- It is coincidental that
we met but it's obvious

that the Balkan connection
was a strong mutual interest.

- My great great grandfather
was the first Prime Minister

of Bulgaria when the country was liberated

from the Turks in 1879.

Well I think everyone
needs to have a feeling

that they belong somewhere.

There's a plot of land or somewhere

where they hail from
where they're roots are.

People who go on about the
government butchering the

National Health Service
I think should come over

to Bulgaria to see what's been kept short

of necessary supplies and
funds really does mean.

We're at the centre for the rehabilitation

for disabled children
at Dalbert Dol near Tran

in the Balkan mountains which our charity

in London has helped quite a bit.

We feel we can help in
all sorts of smaller ways

particularly with art classes

or pottery classes or dancing classes.

You can revolutionise the life

of a child without actually having

to raise huge sums of money.

- What do you about
girlfriends at your age?

- I've got one but I
don't think much of her.

They're no longer just bores,

who won't play this or something.

- They're over half of the
community and they're there.

- You can begin to talk to them.

- I don't think I financially
come from the same background.

Andrew didn't go for a hoity Deb.

He went for a good Yorkshire lass.

- Does money concern you a lot?

- No I think as long as one
has enough to be comfortable

that's really what one could aim for.

- What's the
most difficult thing

about keeping the marriage together?

- I don't think it is
particularly difficult actually.

We seem to manage all right would you say?

- I think so we talk don't we?

- Well so, how is married life?

- Well I still love him if
that's what you're asking.

- And like wise.

I think the most important
thing to us apart

from our marriage is our children.

So we look at them and
we see that they seem

to be happy and getting on well.

We're pleased to be sitting here after

however many years it is, 28
years, still happily together.

- Andrew and Jane have two sons,

Alexander and Timothy.

- And you can never be sure
of leaving your children

any worldly goods but
at least you can be sure

that once you've given
them a good education

that's something that
no one can take away.

Alexander's now working in Canary Wharf

in the City of London.

And Timothy's just left St
Andrews, graduated this year

and he's going on to do
a Post Graduate Degree

at Durham University.

- I'd quite like to go in to politics

but that's easier said than done.

Who knows I haven't written myself off

as a potential politician,
even though I'm already 49.

Well I've always wanted
to go in to politics

but whether I'll ever
do anything about it,

I'm afraid I'm too old now,
that's the truth, I mean.

But it's depressing my two
eldest friends are both ministers

at the moment and one
I've known since four,

one I've known since five and I mean

obviously one can't
helping feeling was a bit

of a failure by comparison.

I think it's more fair if they're elected.

- Yes so do I but I think
it's better to be appointed.

- Yes because you don't--
- Not after a long time.

- It doesn't appointed.

- I'm pleased that we have a
coalition because I've always

at heart believed in consensus politics.

One thing that really does
worry me is their attempts

to solve the economic
stagnation at the moment

in this country by building
all over the green belt

and other areas of countryside.

I've no doubt that whether
it's five years or ten years

this recession is going to be over one day

but if the countryside is
ruined it's ruined forever

and for our children and our
children's children and so on.

- Andrew and Jane live in London

but they have a second
home in the country.

- Well we bought it
about, just when we got married

and it was a two hundred year old barn

that we bought at an auction,

completely derelict, nothing
in it at all except for manure.

We've been here now 28
years, it's time's gone by

but things have obviously got
more mature over the years.

- So is it done?

- It's never done.

There is always the problem of weeds.

- As a couple are you concerned

by the destruction of the
environment is that something--

- I'm very interested about it

and I think what worries me is
that we have the opportunity

now to save animals, flora
and fauna that will be lost

and we don't know what
benefit they will be to us.

- I think a lot of people say
well global warming is bad

but are they actually prepared
to do anything about it.

The company I work for is
developing hydrogen powered

fuel cells for cars in the future.

It's still some way off but I think

that's the way that cars will go.

- There must
be times when you look

and think I did well with this

or I should have done that differently?

- I think there are events
in your life like when

for example Timothy graduated recently

and we thought well that's quite nice.

Here he is at the next stage of his life,

you know he's done quite well to get there

and he seems well balanced,
and it's those sorts

of things that make you reflect.

- Well when Alexandra got his

first job was very exciting.
- Yes, absolutely.

- He got the phone call and he
screamed down the staircase,

"I got the job," and
a tear came to my eye.

It still does now, it was
such a lovely feeling really.

I've been very fortunate that
Andrew has provided very well

for us without me having to go to work,

and I've been able to nurture the boys,

but I'm not sure whether
looking at the next generation

you feel a lot of women have
to work and I admire them

for doing it, but in some
ways I think maybe it would be

good to work, not necessarily full time,

maybe take time off until
your children are at school,

but then you get to my
stage and you think,

well it would be nice
to have something to do.

- I mean are you
grateful she made that decision?

- Yes I am but I can see
that now maybe she enjoy

more having some sort
of career at this stage.

- Is that doable?

- No I don't think so.

- I would say it probably
is, it's a matter

of self confidence but,
obviously in the mid fifties,

it's a bit more difficult.

- I'm not in the mid fifties yet remember.

- True, you will be.
- Does she lack

self confidence do you think?

- To a certain extent, I
think she doesn't realise

how capable she is really.

- I think it's not a bad
idea to pay for schools

because if we didn't schools
would be so nasty and crowded.

I think that the premise in
which the programme was based,

namely that England was still in the grips

of a Dickensian class system
was outmoded even in 1964.

It didn't reflect realities in '64.

The hounds are over there I think.

In so far as the programme touches me,

I feel it's a complete fraud.

It all appeared part of some
indestructible birthright.

What viewers were never
told is that my father died

when I was aged nine leaving my mother

in very uncomfortable
financial circumstances.

She had to go out to work in
order to see us through school

and I then got a scholarship to Oxford.

- The rich children always make fun

of poor children I think.

- Yes.
- And Yes.

They say look at that lovely--

I think the premise of
the original film was

that there was a very strong
class system at that time

and I think that's absolutely true.

There is still a class
system but I think it's based

more on financial success.

- Well,
there's now an underclass

where people can't work.

- It's true. There are
extremes that either end,

there are very success people
who are extremely rich,

and there are people

who have very poor prospects, it's true.

But it's been ever thus, I don't think

I don't think that's
gonna change in the future

and it's always been like that.

- The last time I
appeared in the programme,

a very generous film director based

in San Francisco saw the
programme and sent us

a large check running to
many thousands of pounds

which we were able to do
a great deal of good with

in Bulgaria at the time so
that was a wonderful byproduct

of the programme and perhaps it's

slightly softened my objections.

- It's not something I look forward to

every seven years appearing
in this programme.

I'm always surprised
that you appear for five

or 10 minutes and everyone
remembers your face

but apparently they do.

♪ I'll let you back if you let me ♪

- Well I suppose the only
thing for me is that I've seen

what my husband looked
like at seven and 14 and 21

before I knew him, and then when I had my

own children I could see
which of them looked like

their father at those stages of life

and a lot of women just don't have that.

- I think what's undesirable
is people who have had options

don't take best advantage
of them but I can't see

there's anything wrong as
long as people don't abuse

the opportunities and
privileges they've had.

- It's a very nonchalant little theme,

you know, butter wouldn't
melt in it's mouth,

so take it very quietly and
let it just present itself.

- Well if one discounts
want to be a train driver

or a major opera singer,
or a concert pianist

would have been nice but
I was never good enough.

I enjoy my professional
career very much indeed

but, you know, doing something for

other people gives you a satisfaction

that even winning a fantastic case on

some ludicrous archaic point
of law won't quite deliver.

I think the thing where
I would regard myself

most successful is that I'm
blessed with wonderful friends.

I'm happily married.

I think I'm incredibly lucky person

in all sorts of respects.

- It is important to fight, yes.

- Tony was brought
up in the East End of London.

- I want to be a jockey when I grow up.

Yeah I want to be a jockey when I grow up.

- At 14 he was
already an apprentice

at Tommy Goslings Racing Stable at Epsom.

At 15 he'd left school.

- This is a photo finish
of when I rode at Newbury.

I'm the one with the white cap.

I was beaten a length and a half for third

and I had a photo finish.

- Do you regret not making it?

- Well I would have given my right arm

at the time to become a jockey.

But now, well, I wasn't good enough.

My greatest fulfilment in
life when I rode at Kempton

in the same race as Lester Piggott.

The proudest day of my life.

- And you let it go?
- I let it go.

- What will you do

if you don't make it as a jockey?

- I don't know.

If I know I couldn't be one
I'd get out of the game.

I wouldn't bother.

- And what do
you think you will do then?

- Go on taxis.

- At 21 he was on the Knowledge

and by 28 he owned his own cab.

- It's surprising who you pick up you see.

I once met Kojak, I picked him up.

I'll give you a story which happened.

The doorman called me up and
it was Buzz Aldrin the Spaceman

and we drove out of the
forecourt of the hotel

and a cab pulled up and
the taxi driver said,

"Can you get his autograph?"

So I heard it and say,
"Mr Aldrin," I said,

"Can I have your autograph please?"

And the cabbie said, "No I
don't want his autograph,

"I want your autograph."

And I couldn't believe it, I
said, "your joking ain't ya?"

And to this day I thought
to myself, you know,

I'm more famous than Buzz Aldrin,

he was the second man to land on the moon.

- Have you got a girlfriend?

- No.

- Would you
like to have a girlfriend?

- No.

Do you understand the four Fs?

Find 'em, feed 'em and forget 'em.

For the other F I'll let you
know your own discriminations.

I mean this one I tried to do the three Fs

but I couldn't forget her.

- I went to a discotheque.

He was in the pub earlier on,

and afterwards we went to a discotheque

and Tony would standing there.

And I just, from there
I just, that was it.

- By 42 Tony and
Debbie had left the East End

and moved to Woodford in Essex.

At 49 they'd taken out a second
mortgage on the London house

and put the money into
a holiday home in Spain.

- From here there's about
two hundred yards along,

there's going to be all
commercial units here.

My intensions would be to
turn one of these units

into a sports bar.

We're putting all tellies
round in a sport sort of way,

football shirts and all that memorabilia.

Aldi have come along and built

a brand new supermarket there.

So all my aspirations and
dreams went out of the window.

Well, Michael, that used to be my bank

and that's been closed now
for about eighteen months.

As you probably understand
there is a world recession

and they were affected
like everybody else.

My character seems to
have sort of slowed down

while I'm out here and
the pace is different

and everything's done tomorrow here.

You know, I could just go to the beach,

everyone sort of mingles
in and it's lovely.

Our jobs can make it accessible
where we can come four hours

from door to door from
Spain back to England.

We can work three weeks, a
commitment of getting out money,

and still having a life out here.

- It's a bit quite
though for you two isn't it?

- Yeah but then you've got
your bingo there haven't you.

- It's not quiet when we get here.

- No it isn't.

There's only one ambition
really, I want a baby son

and if I see my baby son that
will be my ambition fulfilled.

No one knows that, only you now.

- Debbie and
Tony have three children:

Nicky, Jodie and Perry.

- Nicky as you know
he was a French polisher

which is a dying trade in England.

So we funded him me and
Debbie on the Knowledge.

Cheers everyone.
- Cheers.

- We got him the bike,
we got him the runs,

we paid his tutoring and
I couldn't ask for more,

to be more proud for
when he got his badge.

It was a gift from god for what happened.

- I'm very
proud of Perry as well.

She got in the Post Office
and that's what she's doing.

Postman Pel, that's our Postman Pel.

- She's got a lovely boyfriend

and he's certainly got my blessing.

Big lad very nice guy, loves his football,

you know, typical East End kid.

- You're not lazy, far from it,
but I just think it's easier

to iron it as it's drying.

I used to do that.
- No you never.

You paid to get your ironing done

like you still do today,
you always have paid.

- So how is it all
of you in the house together?

- Yeah, it's all right.

- She's only here because she's pregnant

and she doesn't carry too well.

- Sometimes she gets on my nerves.

Sometimes they all get on my nerves.

Sometimes I get on their nerves.

It's just what happens.

- Well done Pel.
- The ironing board give way.

- Well done.

- Jodie at this
present time she's just relies

on us a great deal, and
she's been very scarred

with a relationship that she was in.

Her relationship with
her first love of her

own life is very turbulent but
he's the father of her kid.

- Jodie has a daughter, Toni.

- Toni as you appreciate
she's living with us,

and my daughter Jodie
she's at this present time

having emotional problems
and various other problems,

and most of all I've got to
make sure my Toni grows up

with a safe environment.

Once her mother does get better
I will certainly bond them

back and hopefully which
we pray they become mother

and daughter and everything
will be fine after that.

She's growing up at an alarming rate.

When she's with any one of
her friends I'll go to her

and say, "Toni, no no no no."

And, "Stop it granddad, see
you're embarrassing me,"

and I have to pull the reins in for me.

- How's the cabbing going?

- We had an influx of
Arabs come for Ramadan.

Without them and the injection of wealth,

I think the cab trade will have sunk.

It's been so bad out there.
- It's very hard.

- The ratio before was about
ten cabs to seven jobs.

When the Arabs come it was
about ten cabs to nine jobs.

When they go away and
now the recession came

it's ten cabs to two jobs.

I feel that the economy
will bust within five years

because people like
myself have been giving

and giving all the time.

We're paying, and someone's
getting it at our expense.

- How did you prophesy
what was going to happen

in this last programme, you seemed to know

that the economy was going to go bust?

- I feel the Labour government
has got a lot to answer for.

Draining the system dry, giving
out aid to all the countries

around the world, haemorrhaging money

through the war effort, you
know giving money to the banks

and no regulation on the banks.

You could see the drip drip drip situation

at the end of the tap, and by the time

there's no water left
in the tank they want us

to put it all back in.

Sometimes on a Saturday
morning I go to the pictures.

- Sometimes with my friends
and sometimes with him.

- You don't.
- I do.

- She don't.

- And why did
you fall in love with him?

- Dunno, dunno
- I don't know how

you've put up with me for so long.

- I don't know, sometimes I
don't know how I stand him.

Who's to say in another ten years me

and him might have split up.

- Quite possible
- You know, you don't know.

- I'm not proud at all to
say this but situations arise

that I have had regretful
behaviour various times

but through--
- You got caught

and that was it.

- You must appreciate 32 years
is a long time to be married

and most of all I mean I've
got an open characteristic way

about me and sometimes it
has got me in to trouble

which has been well documented before.

I owe Debbie everything
because good or bad,

high or low, rain or
shine she's stuck by me.

At the end of it I still love her so

and that's the reason why and

that will always be the reason why.

- Were the kids angry with you?

- Yeah, yes they were angry with me

and the situation was it
was a hard pill to swallow

because the kids are my life.

Nicky, Jodie, Perry, the
grandchildren, I draw a circle,

they're all mine and I'm lucky,

I'm very very lucky, Michael.

Michael, up there is my old
flat what I used to live in.

I lived up there for 28 years.

Now for me it's so small round here now,

I mean I come back and
the memories I've got

in here is unbelievable.

- Right, would
everybody please sit round now

and get on with their work.

I don't want to see any backs to me.

There shouldn't be anybody turning round,

Tony do you hear as well?

Get on with your work in front.

Tony, don't turn round again.

- As you can see, Michael,
the Bethnal Green I knew

as a kid growing up and how
it's changed quite dramatically.

Not one East Ender,
Cockney person like myself

or anyone in the East End ever
had a say in the immigration.

No one had a say of the
population as far as,

was there too many, was there too less?

- Listening to you
sometimes you sound racist.

- Racist?
- Asian, well now,

you talk about Asians,
you talk about Japanese

and yet here in Spain
you seem to really work

to integrate in to the community.

- Well look, Michael, with respect to you

that word racist it covers leaps

and bounds of characteristics.

I've never been racist in a million years,

in a million years.

I love people, I'm a people
lover you know and no way.

I think that's with respect
to you over the top.

Right, Michael, this is
the fruit and veg shop

where I was 7 years
old I had my first wage

in there, 10 bob a week.

This here was a pub.

This is where all the dry
horses used to deliver the beer.

I used to run in and get in my apples

and I used to feed them,

and where I was so small
they were a mammoth

and that's where I got
my love for horses from.

- Four to one, Cool Alone.
- Great, time and now.

- 4 1/2 50s, 4 1/2 50s, 4 1/2.

If your father gambles
you're always looked upon

how he gambles.

I try my luck and see what he does.

And I took it from there
it's sort of in you.

This is the pub and the area
where my dad used to meet.

And what they used to
do is get an orange box

with three cards on it,
a queen and two fours,

and what they'd do it's
called find the lady

like the three card trick,

and consequently they just
sort of take their money

off all the general public.

He used to go in the nick
once a week at least,

and the firm used to take their money out,

pay the fine and he was
back out on the street

to do his sort of erm, devilry ways.

I've come back here again

and it's really a travesty
what's happened here.

I mean, it makes me feel like crying.

For me it's quite sad,
you know, but I mean,

if that's what they call
progress well so be it.

- Where are we now Tony?

- I'm back at the old dog track.

We're at the Olympic Stadium, Michael.

And this is where the
old dog track used to be

on this site and I'm here today

and I cannot believe the transformation.

It's a dream, it's just spectacular.

And the torch from this
games shall be now passed

to the East End for a new
generation to come through.

Wee Wee!

- At the end of their
very special day in London,

after their trip to the zoo and the party,

we took our children to
an adventure playground

where they could do just what they liked.

Those from the children's home
set about building a house.

There's Nicholas.

And Tony.

Andrew.

John.

And Bruce.

Suzy.

Jackie and her friends.

Give me a child until he is seven

and I will give you the man.

This has been a glimpse
of Britain's future.