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- Are you going to tell me where Sian is.
- Have you got a car?
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She's down the side somewhere along here.
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I moved her body a couple of nights ago.
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- Her body?
- Yeah.
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- I was hoping we were gonna save her.
- Yeah, it's a shitty day.
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- We need to chat, me and you, now.
- What do you want to talk about?
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- Do you want another one?
- Another one?
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She's down there.
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I was today taken to the locations
of two bodies,
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but, thus far,
only one has been recovered.
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That second girl is Becky.
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[APPLAUSE]
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Keir and I just wanted to add our
congratulations to everybody else's.
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Oh, thank you.
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I did hear the confessions
weren't PACE compliant.
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No. In my opinion, they were.
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Well, I'm sure it'll all come out
in the wash.
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We've got a match for
the second girl, Rebecca Godden.
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We've got an address for the mother.
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- I know why you're here.
- Mrs Edwards, can I come in?
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- What's going on?
- It's the police.
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They're here to tell me
that Becky's dead. Aren't you?
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Sorry. Yes, I am.
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- No! I can't...!
- Karen!
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Steve!
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Karen...
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[SHE CRIES OUT IN ANGUISH]
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Karen...
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[HE KNOCKS ON THE DOOR]
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John Godden? Father of Becky Godden?
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[HE SOBS]
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What am I gonna do
without my little Becky?
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[SOBBING CONTINUES]
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Mr Godden, could I please ask...?
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[HE SOBS]
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Mr Godden,
does that name mean anything to you?
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- Christopher Halliwell?
- No...
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No, I never heard of him.
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Oh...!
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Mr Godden...
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...when did you last see Becky?
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It was...
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It was me and Karen splitting up,
that's why she went off the rails.
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Mr Godden...
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- Yeah?
- So, when did you last see Becky?
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Oh, er...
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Hm...
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A while back. I don't remember when.
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I knew something like this
was gonna happen now.
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Everything's going against us.
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My other daughter,
she needs special care.
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Which I'm trying to organise.
But this is...
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It's just one blow after another.
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[THEY BOTH SOB]
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Becky was killed in 2003.
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Sian in 2011.
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Eight years. Now, that is too long a gap
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for him not to have been
involved in any others in between.
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- Steve...
- I mean, why say
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that you think the murder
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was in 2003, 2004 or 2005,
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unless there are other murders
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and you've got them mixed up
in your head?
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I need you to stand down.
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Take a break and recharge the batteries.
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As soon as we can get it arranged,
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we're planning to put in
a small team from MCIT Bristol
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to wrap things up,
so we can all move on...
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- You're not listening to me.
- ..after a brilliant result.
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There will be more victims, Pat.
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He said they're cutting everything
back and they want to replace me.
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No, not straight away, but they're
making me hand the case over.
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Well, what else am I supposed to do?
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It's like they're not even prepared
to acknowledge the fact
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of the notion that we might have
a serial killer on our hands.
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Listen, anyway, I'd better go.
I'm at the checkout.
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OK, love you. Bye-bye.
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Number two, please.
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- �42.70, please.
- Thank you.
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Sorry, excuse me.
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Aren't you the policeman who was
on the Sian O'Callaghan case?
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- Er...
- It is you, isn't it?
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Well, it was a team effort, but, er...
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- Can I just shake your hand, please?
- Thanks.
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Bloody brilliant what you did.
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I couldn't believe
you caught him so quick.
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- Thank you.
- This is, er...
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This is the guy
who found Sian O'Callaghan's killer.
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Well done.
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[APPLAUSE CONTINUES]
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- Nice one. Good job.
- Thank you.
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- Nice one, mate.
- Thank you.
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OK, his bag's packed.
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- He's just choosing a DVD.
- OK.
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Before you go, I, erm...
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I've got something for you.
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It's a lock of Sian's hair.
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The funeral parlour did it for us.
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I've got one and I've given one to Mum.
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Thanks.
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I'll call tomorrow about the funeral,
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just to go through the
arrangements with you.
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Right.
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- Go on, what did you choose?
- Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs.
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Oh, not that again!
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Come on, then.
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- Bye, Aiden.
- Bye.
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- Bye.
- Bye, sweetheart. Bye.
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Why are you going to speak to Mick
about the funeral details?
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Because he's Sian's father.
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Yeah, he doesn't need
to be worrying about all that.
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He's got enough on his plate.
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Anyway, it's all done.
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What is?
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The funeral.
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I've booked for us
to go and see Hilliers.
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- What?
- Yeah, I just said to myself,
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"We need to apply the KISS principle."
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Keep it simple, stupid.
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Now...
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...have you been to see the doctor
about...?
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No. I haven't been able to face it.
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Right, I am booking you an appointment
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and I am taking you there myself.
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No ifs or buts.
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Hello, Declan!
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It's me. It's Chris.
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Chris. How are you, mate?
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Yeah, not so bad.
Stuck in here, of course.
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I'm on remand at the moment.
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Well, it's a lot of waiting around,
really.
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But it's changed a lot
since I was last in here.
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Well, it was much more stricter then.
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Well, it's a load of bollocks, mate.
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But they want to interview me.
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Yeah, they want to interview me
about eight murders.
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[HE LAUGHS]
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I don't know, mate. I don't know.
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WOMAN ON RADIO: For over a week
her identity was a mystery.
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But detectives have finally been
able to name the unknown woman,
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her body found buried
at a Cotswold beauty spot...
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Where is everyone?
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- Re-assigned overnight.
- Already?
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I've only been given
to the end of the week myself.
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Right, get everyone who we have left
in the briefing room.
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Jesus Christ...!
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OK, so the news back from the lab
is mixed.
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The good news is
there's a match for Sian's DNA
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on the spots of blood
on the car seat covers
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Halliwell was trying to dispose of.
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Yeah, but surely he could just say
that he was a cab driver
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and Sian got in as a passenger
and had a nosebleed or something.
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Yeah. Although there is a match
for Halliwell's DNA on Sian's body
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from the bite mark to her breast.
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But it's only partial.
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No match from the perfume bottle.
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Erm, there is actually
a full female DNA profile on it,
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but it's not Sian's or Becky's.
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Which begs the question, whose is it?
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Also they've been unable
to positively identify the item
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he left burning
in the middle of the road.
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What are they saying about
the gaffer tape gag
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- found with Becky's body?
- Very unlikely to provide any profile,
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given how long it's been in the ground.
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Right, I think we're going
to find other victims.
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There's a big gap
between Becky and Sian's murders.
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So cross-reference Halliwell's known
whereabouts between those dates
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against cold cases and mispers.
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None of us knows how much longer we
have got left on this investigation,
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myself included.
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There are currently 1,500 actions
pending on the Holmes System.
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We actually need double the team
that we had a few days ago,
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and we have less than half now.
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I'm not quite sure
how that logic prevails,
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but, erm, let's do what we can, eh?
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Right, see you soon.
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What have we done?
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Oh, sit down, for God's sake.
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[HE TRIES TO HOLD BACK A SOB]
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Oh...
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- Do you want anything?
- I'll have a cup of tea.
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And a bacon sarnie.
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[HE SIGHS HEAVILY]
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What are we gonna do without her?
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She was our little girl.
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- Here you go.
- Thank you.
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I asked to see you, John,
because I want to know something.
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Oh...
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I want to know how you and your family
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were telling me you'd seen Becky
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when, all along,
she was dead in the ground.
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No, it's not right.
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2003 she was murdered, John.
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But I've been told that your dad,
your nephew,
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all different members of your family
have said they've seen her
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- as recent as a couple of years ago.
- I don't know.
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- Maybe they got the dates wrong.
- Nonsense.
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Your dad...
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Your dad would remember when he saw
his own granddaughter, wouldn't he?
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Well, his memory's not as good as it was.
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It's not good enough, John.
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Because while you lot
were telling me you'd seen her,
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she never got properly reported
as missing.
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[HE SLURPS]
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Well, you can't blame me
for your own guilty conscience.
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I knew...
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I knew she would have come to see me
if she was still alive.
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I knew it.
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Why, John?
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Oh...
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Was it...?
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Was it just to try and hurt me?
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Hm? Was that it?
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You're talking trash, as usual.
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God forgive you lot for what you've done.
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The reason I got in touch is, er...
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...cos I shared a cell with Halliwell
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round about '87, '88 maybe.
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He was just in for nicking stuff,
as I remember.
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And what was it that disturbed you?
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Two things I brought to mind.
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Er...
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Once, he asks me,
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"Have you ever had sex with a woman
while you're strangling her?"
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I remember that. Another time,
we're lying there on the bunks,
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and this time he asks me,
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"How many do you have to kill
to be a serial killer?"
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Mm.
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Tends to stick in your mind,
them sort of things.
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Oh, his big hero, I can tell you,
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was that Myra Hindley
off the Moors Murders.
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They want to interview me.
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Yeah, they want to interview me
about eight murders.
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From a phone call two days ago.
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Eight.
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Who's mentioned eight? Certainly not us.
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- Who's he talking to?
- A mate of his he phoned from prison.
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He's known him since school.
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2003, Becky.
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2011, Sian.
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- Eight years.
- Eight years, eight murders.
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This is surely grounds
for further investigation.
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We have to step up resources again.
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Steve, I've decided I'm moving on.
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I'm going to take up a post
with the UK Border Force.
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Regardless,
this recording may not be enough
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to keep this investigation open.
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Sir...
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...we are starting to get hits
and matches
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with unsolved murders
and missing persons.
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Locally, there's a sex worker
went missing in the early '90s,
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body never found,
last seen just around the corner
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from where Halliwell lived at the time.
254
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And there will be others,
absolutely no doubt.
255
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Halliwell's hero is Myra Hindley.
256
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We need more resources, not less.
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Sir, we have got to investigate this
properly,
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find out if there are any matches
around the country.
259
00:13:32,517 --> 00:13:34,716
Steve, it's not going to be my call, OK?
260
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It's gonna be Pat Geenty taking over
as Chief,
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and, no doubt,
Mike Veale becoming his deputy.
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00:13:39,024 --> 00:13:40,459
It's gonna be for them to decide
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if they want to put any more
resources into this, not me.
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Evening.
265
00:14:03,517 --> 00:14:04,517
Nice to see you.
266
00:14:04,518 --> 00:14:06,111
Usual deal, none of what we talk about
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can be used by ITV
until after the verdict.
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Yeah, agreed.
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Well, he's a serial killer.
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Rob, I am convinced of it.
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On top of the two that we know he's
killed,
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I think there's probably another six.
273
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Six?!
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00:14:19,309 --> 00:14:21,717
Mm-hm. But I need a bigger team
to properly investigate him.
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I love that jacket.
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That was her favourite.
I couldn't wear it.
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Just have it as a keepsake.
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Can you finish this one?
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When do you think
you're going to move back in, Kev?
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I will at some point.
But... just not now.
281
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Why don't you sort something out
for her to wear?
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For the funeral.
Don't tell me what you choose.
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It'll just be between the two of you.
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- Not too tight.
- OK.
285
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You look so smart.
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00:16:08,272 --> 00:16:10,271
Come on, Pete, Sharon's her auntie.
287
00:16:10,532 --> 00:16:12,371
- It's only a poem, please.
- I'm sorry, Sharon,
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00:16:12,396 --> 00:16:14,555
but we've only got
a certain amount of allotted time
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and the service has all been
very carefully worked out.
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00:16:16,604 --> 00:16:17,747
But surely...?
291
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Elaine asked me to
do it and I've done it.
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- Is the timing really that precise?
- Mum, she's here!
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God bless her.
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MALE REPORTER: Close friends told me
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she was outgoing, loyal, fun, caring.
296
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A great auntie to her friends' children.
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00:17:15,510 --> 00:17:20,019
A young women with so much promise,
so much zest for life.
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That life was honoured today.
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00:17:23,019 --> 00:17:26,019
Today proved how much she meant
to this town.
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Are they for Sian?
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Yeah.
302
00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:46,018
Mint sauce?
303
00:17:46,019 --> 00:17:48,018
- It's minted lamb!
- I like mint sauce.
304
00:17:48,019 --> 00:17:51,019
- Well, how bloody minty do you want it?
- Minty.
305
00:18:03,219 --> 00:18:06,018
If we're doing this mother-daughter
thing, how's work?
306
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- OK.
- Just OK?
307
00:18:08,019 --> 00:18:10,019
I'm not gonna make a career out of it.
308
00:18:13,019 --> 00:18:15,699
I want to have babies, don't I?
309
00:18:26,686 --> 00:18:28,685
It'll be some time before we can...
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...release Becky's body for burial.
311
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And we are aware that
this is a distressing time for you.
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- We want her back.
- Of course.
313
00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:42,019
Now, obviously, Becky's body
was photographed as we found her.
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And as this is an image
which will be shown in court...
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00:18:46,219 --> 00:18:48,522
...we wanted to give you
the opportunity to view it first,
316
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should you feel you wanted to.
317
00:18:52,805 --> 00:18:53,805
Yeah?
318
00:18:54,020 --> 00:18:56,019
- Yeah.
- OK.
319
00:18:58,019 --> 00:18:59,410
So...
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...the main photo is her as we found her.
321
00:19:20,463 --> 00:19:23,018
- Karen!
- No, I'm all right, I'm all right.
322
00:19:23,019 --> 00:19:25,019
Just leave me down here a minute.
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I'll get some water.
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[SHE CLEARS HER THROAT]
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He cut...
326
00:19:34,566 --> 00:19:35,566
He cut...
327
00:19:36,492 --> 00:19:38,491
He cut her head off...
328
00:19:38,778 --> 00:19:40,778
...and her hands and her feet.
329
00:19:43,492 --> 00:19:45,226
The pathologist can't be sure
330
00:19:45,251 --> 00:19:48,251
whether Halliwell did that
or if animals did.
331
00:19:49,545 --> 00:19:50,545
He did it.
332
00:19:53,852 --> 00:19:56,550
Come on, love, drink this.
333
00:19:58,992 --> 00:20:03,590
Why would he do that to a little girl?
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00:20:05,406 --> 00:20:07,150
[SHE SOBS]
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00:20:15,554 --> 00:20:17,019
125 quid fine.
336
00:20:17,020 --> 00:20:20,018
- That's not actually too bad.
- And a drugs rehabilitation course.
337
00:20:20,019 --> 00:20:21,019
You can't take that lightly,
338
00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:23,058
or they'll put you back in prison,
my young lady.
339
00:20:23,059 --> 00:20:25,018
I ain't done any drugs
for three whole weeks.
340
00:20:25,019 --> 00:20:26,019
You'll be so proud of me.
341
00:20:26,020 --> 00:20:27,846
- Also, look at that.
- What's that?
342
00:20:27,847 --> 00:20:30,326
One of those prison officers
put a cigarette out on my arm.
343
00:20:30,327 --> 00:20:31,673
Such a bitch!
344
00:20:31,674 --> 00:20:33,594
Oh, can we keep the hood down?
345
00:20:33,595 --> 00:20:37,218
I love it with the hood down. And
I don't smell bad, I just like it.
346
00:20:37,219 --> 00:20:40,588
We'll get you home,
give you a nice bubble bath
347
00:20:40,589 --> 00:20:42,218
and then we'll go out for a posh dinner.
348
00:20:42,219 --> 00:20:44,019
- How about that?
- Yeah.
349
00:20:46,699 --> 00:20:49,019
- Mum...
- Yeah?
350
00:20:50,019 --> 00:20:52,019
Can I go see my boyfriend first?
351
00:20:56,019 --> 00:20:57,676
- No.
- Please, Mum.
352
00:20:57,677 --> 00:20:59,476
I'm so excited to see him. I'll just...
353
00:20:59,477 --> 00:21:02,019
I'll pop in, I'll say hello.
That'll be it.
354
00:21:17,372 --> 00:21:19,372
I'm not coming home, Mum.
355
00:21:20,526 --> 00:21:22,019
Becky, get in the car.
356
00:21:23,019 --> 00:21:25,018
I got... I got myself clean.
357
00:21:25,019 --> 00:21:28,019
I can't keep putting you through this.
358
00:21:32,806 --> 00:21:33,806
I'm sorry.
359
00:22:45,479 --> 00:22:47,959
- How are you coping?
- OK.
360
00:22:48,959 --> 00:22:50,998
You don't feel the need
for any anti-depressants?
361
00:22:50,999 --> 00:22:53,959
I don't see the point.
I know why I am depressed.
362
00:22:54,959 --> 00:22:56,958
It was two girls, wasn't it?
363
00:22:56,959 --> 00:22:58,524
Sian and another girl.
364
00:22:58,525 --> 00:22:59,959
Just lift your arm.
365
00:23:01,959 --> 00:23:03,463
All of us here, we're...
366
00:23:04,479 --> 00:23:05,958
...we're very sorry.
367
00:23:06,303 --> 00:23:10,114
That pisses me off.
Sian's name always being mentioned
368
00:23:10,115 --> 00:23:11,959
in the same breath as the other girl.
369
00:23:12,686 --> 00:23:14,046
I'm so sorry, have I got that wrong?
370
00:23:16,466 --> 00:23:17,783
Erm, get dressed again.
371
00:23:18,959 --> 00:23:20,693
No, there was another victim.
372
00:23:20,694 --> 00:23:23,959
But the circumstances
were completely different.
373
00:23:25,212 --> 00:23:28,212
She was a drug addict and a prostitute...
374
00:23:28,959 --> 00:23:33,958
...and must have accepted there was
a risk attached to her profession.
375
00:23:33,959 --> 00:23:36,958
Sian was an ordinary girl who had
a boyfriend and a job in an office.
376
00:23:36,959 --> 00:23:39,798
She was just on a night out
with her friends.
377
00:23:40,263 --> 00:23:41,958
Obviously, I feel sorry for Becky,
378
00:23:41,959 --> 00:23:44,639
but I'd hate for people to think
Sian was the same as her.
379
00:23:45,959 --> 00:23:49,958
Well, Elaine, there is something there.
380
00:23:50,303 --> 00:23:53,958
So now we need to take a scan
and a biopsy
381
00:23:53,959 --> 00:23:56,343
to try and work out exactly what it is.
382
00:23:56,959 --> 00:24:00,639
So, look, don't worry about it
too much just yet.
383
00:24:04,586 --> 00:24:06,934
- Are we seeing him today?
- No, just the lawyers.
384
00:24:06,959 --> 00:24:09,263
All the legal arguments.
385
00:24:10,263 --> 00:24:12,366
One of the solicitors said that Halliwell
386
00:24:12,367 --> 00:24:15,383
might try and claim
that Sian is a prostitute.
387
00:24:16,583 --> 00:24:18,958
If they start saying that, I'm
telling you now, I'm gonna lose it.
388
00:24:18,959 --> 00:24:20,958
- They can't say that!
- They won't.
389
00:24:20,959 --> 00:24:23,983
We can clearly demonstrate
she was nothing like Becky.
390
00:24:24,959 --> 00:24:26,639
We've got to wait in here, yeah?
391
00:24:32,959 --> 00:24:34,478
I'm Mick, Sian's dad.
392
00:24:34,479 --> 00:24:37,423
- Pleased to meet you.
- This is, er, Debbie my wife.
393
00:24:38,959 --> 00:24:40,860
I can't believe Elaine and I
394
00:24:40,861 --> 00:24:42,264
have gone through
what we've gone through,
395
00:24:42,265 --> 00:24:44,959
and, all along, we've only lived
a few doors away from each other.
396
00:24:48,423 --> 00:24:51,143
But Becky and Sian are together
forever now, aren't they?
397
00:24:55,892 --> 00:24:57,372
All rise.
398
00:25:23,463 --> 00:25:25,958
Mr Geenty,
I am not allowed to give evidence,
399
00:25:25,959 --> 00:25:29,514
but I can tell you that,
apart from in terrorism cases,
400
00:25:29,515 --> 00:25:30,958
I have never come across
401
00:25:30,959 --> 00:25:34,084
the urgent interview provision
to PACE being used.
402
00:25:34,085 --> 00:25:37,799
It's a very unusual beast.
Would you agree with that?
403
00:25:38,959 --> 00:25:40,103
Yes, it is.
404
00:25:42,423 --> 00:25:45,223
But what it does not mean is that,
for example...
405
00:25:46,023 --> 00:25:48,362
...you can abandon the need to caution.
406
00:25:48,363 --> 00:25:50,958
The PACE guidelines
quite clearly indicate
407
00:25:50,959 --> 00:25:53,958
that a person is entitled
to have his rights explained to him
408
00:25:53,959 --> 00:25:55,958
and a police officer's duty
409
00:25:55,959 --> 00:25:58,478
is to ensure
that they understand those rights.
410
00:25:58,959 --> 00:26:00,478
It is.
411
00:26:00,503 --> 00:26:01,958
And that's an inviolate position.
412
00:26:01,959 --> 00:26:03,635
Yes, it is.
413
00:26:03,636 --> 00:26:07,288
But I have to say that I think
the decision that Steve made was,
414
00:26:07,289 --> 00:26:10,799
to use the slang, a gutsy decision.
415
00:26:11,539 --> 00:26:14,943
I'd like to think I'd make a similar
decision in the same circumstances.
416
00:26:17,959 --> 00:26:19,958
I've just been told the defence QC
417
00:26:19,959 --> 00:26:21,958
is going to move
to have you excluded from the trial.
418
00:26:21,959 --> 00:26:22,959
What?
419
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,958
I'm sure they're just trying it on.
420
00:26:24,959 --> 00:26:27,335
An attempt to rattle you
before you testify today.
421
00:26:27,336 --> 00:26:29,958
But what it does mean is
they don't really have any defence,
422
00:26:29,959 --> 00:26:31,318
except attacking you.
423
00:26:31,743 --> 00:26:33,958
So that's why they haven't put out
a defence statement.
424
00:26:33,959 --> 00:26:35,397
Exactly.
425
00:26:35,398 --> 00:26:36,959
- Right.
- Thanks, Ian.
426
00:26:38,959 --> 00:26:41,527
I swear to tell the truth, the whole
truth and nothing but the truth,
427
00:26:41,528 --> 00:26:42,959
so help me God.
428
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,958
Detective Superintendent Fulcher,
429
00:26:44,959 --> 00:26:46,958
you knew that Sian O'Callaghan was dead
430
00:26:46,959 --> 00:26:48,958
long before you met Mr Halliwell
in that car park, didn't you?
431
00:26:48,959 --> 00:26:51,959
I had no way of knowing
if she was dead or alive.
432
00:26:53,503 --> 00:26:55,638
Looking through your own notes
at the time,
433
00:26:55,639 --> 00:26:57,958
you talk about "the prospect
of recovering her body".
434
00:26:58,583 --> 00:26:59,983
You believed she was dead, didn't you?
435
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:03,958
Er, I think you're missing
the point here.
436
00:27:03,959 --> 00:27:07,958
What I thought, er, hoped
or even believed
437
00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:11,958
is irrelevant to the execution
of my duties as a police officer
438
00:27:11,959 --> 00:27:14,959
and my responsibilities
to Sian O'Callaghan.
439
00:27:15,959 --> 00:27:18,543
Barbury Castle's a remote area, isn't it?
440
00:27:19,183 --> 00:27:20,958
Yes, I suppose it is.
441
00:27:20,959 --> 00:27:23,958
About as different from the custody
suite of Gable Cross Police Station
442
00:27:23,959 --> 00:27:25,846
as it is possible to envisage, isn't it?
443
00:27:25,871 --> 00:27:26,983
Yes.
444
00:27:28,183 --> 00:27:30,524
What I suggest to you
is that you took Mr Halliwell there
445
00:27:30,525 --> 00:27:32,171
because you thought that would be
446
00:27:32,172 --> 00:27:34,958
an additional element of pressure
upon him.
447
00:27:34,959 --> 00:27:37,593
That's what you were doing, isn't it?
448
00:27:37,594 --> 00:27:41,958
I believed Barbury Castle was
most likely to be where Sian was,
449
00:27:41,959 --> 00:27:44,958
and that, if I took Christopher
there for an urgent interview,
450
00:27:44,959 --> 00:27:46,958
it would necessarily mean
getting to her quicker,
451
00:27:46,959 --> 00:27:49,958
if he was prepared to tell us
where she was.
452
00:27:50,383 --> 00:27:52,459
And if that involved
abandoning his PACE rights,
453
00:27:52,460 --> 00:27:53,958
you were prepared to do that?
454
00:27:53,959 --> 00:27:55,958
I believed the urgent interview provision
455
00:27:55,959 --> 00:27:58,958
enabled me to take
the course of action that I did.
456
00:27:58,959 --> 00:28:01,639
Mr Fulcher, your own deputy,
Detective Inspector Kirby,
457
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,959
told you it was not a good idea
458
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,958
for you to conduct
an additional urgent interview
459
00:28:04,959 --> 00:28:07,383
yourself with Halliwell, didn't he?
460
00:28:08,892 --> 00:28:10,532
Yes, he did.
461
00:28:10,959 --> 00:28:13,318
He said you'd be sailing
very close to the wind,
462
00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:16,319
in terms of a breach of PACE, didn't he?
463
00:28:17,712 --> 00:28:19,192
Words to that effect.
464
00:28:23,303 --> 00:28:25,336
I can't believe
he didn't caution Halliwell.
465
00:28:25,337 --> 00:28:27,369
Why didn't he just do it
when he was talking to him?
466
00:28:27,370 --> 00:28:29,042
It's not just the caution, Mum.
467
00:28:29,043 --> 00:28:31,263
They've got to take him to a police
station and give him a solicitor.
468
00:28:31,959 --> 00:28:33,671
I feel so sorry for Steve.
469
00:28:33,672 --> 00:28:35,958
That bloody lawyer
is really going for him.
470
00:28:35,959 --> 00:28:37,958
I think he's made a mistake.
471
00:28:38,503 --> 00:28:40,958
But if he hadn't done what he did,
we'd never have found Becky.
472
00:28:40,959 --> 00:28:43,223
A big fucking mistake.
473
00:28:48,633 --> 00:28:51,632
Let's move on now to the "Do you
want another one?" conversation.
474
00:28:51,959 --> 00:28:53,958
As soon as he began talking to you,
475
00:28:53,959 --> 00:28:58,249
you appreciated it had nothing to do
with the Sian investigation.
476
00:28:58,604 --> 00:28:59,512
Yes.
477
00:28:59,537 --> 00:29:01,958
Well, surely, as the conversation
progressed, you should have said,
478
00:29:02,703 --> 00:29:04,958
"Look, we'll talk about this
at the police station later."
479
00:29:04,959 --> 00:29:06,850
That's what you should have said,
shouldn't you?
480
00:29:06,851 --> 00:29:09,958
My view was that we were in the moment.
481
00:29:09,959 --> 00:29:12,400
If he was offering the information,
I would rather have it
482
00:29:12,401 --> 00:29:15,151
and not curtail it,
than not find Becky Godden.
483
00:29:15,152 --> 00:29:17,958
And once Mr Halliwell was taken back
to Gable Cross Police Station
484
00:29:17,959 --> 00:29:20,380
and given a solicitor,
to your intense annoyance,
485
00:29:20,381 --> 00:29:21,753
he decided he didn't want to answer
486
00:29:21,754 --> 00:29:23,267
any further questions in an interview.
487
00:29:23,463 --> 00:29:24,959
It was frustrating, yes.
488
00:29:25,959 --> 00:29:28,958
And you and your team went out of
your way to undermine Mr Coleman,
489
00:29:28,959 --> 00:29:31,999
who attended throughout
the interview process, didn't you?
490
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,423
I thought it was utterly ridiculous...
491
00:29:39,959 --> 00:29:44,249
...that an individual, who had taken
me and numerous other people
492
00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:46,958
from a surveillance convoy
to two dead bodies,
493
00:29:46,959 --> 00:29:50,223
should seek to find some mechanism,
some...
494
00:29:51,103 --> 00:29:52,958
...quirk of the law, some loophole,
495
00:29:53,463 --> 00:29:56,743
to get him away from the fact
that he was a multiple murderer.
496
00:29:58,023 --> 00:30:00,423
So PACE, in your view, is a loophole?
497
00:30:06,263 --> 00:30:07,958
It was a travesty!
498
00:30:07,959 --> 00:30:09,541
It was like I was on trial.
499
00:30:09,542 --> 00:30:10,958
What about the judge?
500
00:30:10,959 --> 00:30:12,958
Hm, it's hard to tell.
501
00:30:12,959 --> 00:30:15,533
She did seem more impressed with
their QC than ours,
502
00:30:15,558 --> 00:30:16,607
I could see that.
503
00:30:17,479 --> 00:30:20,958
And this is the first criminal case
she's ever presided over.
504
00:30:20,959 --> 00:30:23,958
Up to now, she's just done
family stuff, you know.
505
00:30:23,959 --> 00:30:26,832
But it's not just that
Halliwell confessed.
506
00:30:26,833 --> 00:30:28,958
He confessed
and he took you to the bodies.
507
00:30:28,959 --> 00:30:30,998
- How can that be a problem?
- I don't know.
508
00:30:31,463 --> 00:30:34,638
I mean, their side
were looking very confident.
509
00:30:34,639 --> 00:30:36,958
They're trying to paint me
as some sort of renegade
510
00:30:36,959 --> 00:30:38,355
acting outside of the law.
511
00:30:38,356 --> 00:30:40,303
But the judge has to see through that.
512
00:31:05,959 --> 00:31:10,318
I have considered the evidence
and oral submissions with care
513
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:13,638
and I find,
on the balance of probabilities,
514
00:31:13,639 --> 00:31:15,958
that the defendant's confession
515
00:31:15,959 --> 00:31:19,958
relating to the location
of Sian O'Callaghan's body
516
00:31:19,959 --> 00:31:22,246
may have been obtained by oppression.
517
00:31:22,247 --> 00:31:24,959
[MUTTERING AND WHISPERING]
518
00:31:28,223 --> 00:31:31,502
With regard to Becky Godden-Edwards,
519
00:31:31,503 --> 00:31:35,958
as soon as the defendant
began to talk about another offence,
520
00:31:35,959 --> 00:31:38,959
he should have been immediately
re-arrested and cautioned.
521
00:31:40,743 --> 00:31:44,469
The urgent interview criteria had,
at that point, expired.
522
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:46,541
There should have been
no further discussion
523
00:31:46,542 --> 00:31:49,958
and the defendant should
have been taken to a police station.
524
00:31:49,959 --> 00:31:52,958
This whole series of events began
525
00:31:52,959 --> 00:31:55,958
with a deliberate decision
by a senior officer
526
00:31:55,959 --> 00:31:57,663
to breach the PACE code.
527
00:31:57,959 --> 00:32:00,958
And whilst
Detective Superintendent Fulcher
528
00:32:00,959 --> 00:32:02,958
was entitled to adopt an approach
529
00:32:02,959 --> 00:32:06,420
which would lead to the gathering
of intelligence and information,
530
00:32:06,421 --> 00:32:10,343
what resulted was not, in my judgment,
531
00:32:10,344 --> 00:32:12,494
such as can fairly constitute
532
00:32:12,495 --> 00:32:15,623
admissible evidence in a criminal trial.
533
00:32:27,731 --> 00:32:31,731
Yeah, well, he's going to have
to explain this at the trial.
534
00:32:32,731 --> 00:32:34,730
Are you all right?
535
00:32:34,731 --> 00:32:35,731
[DOOR OPENS]
536
00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:48,590
Er, good afternoon, everybody.
537
00:32:53,003 --> 00:32:56,482
So, the first thing to say
is that we should still be OK
538
00:32:56,507 --> 00:32:58,506
with the case against him for Sian.
539
00:32:58,531 --> 00:33:00,086
We have the DNA evidence.
540
00:33:00,111 --> 00:33:02,470
Her blood in his car,
his DNA on her body.
541
00:33:05,323 --> 00:33:06,990
And what about Becky?
542
00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:13,710
The confession evidence is all we had.
543
00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:17,249
And, er, I'm afraid, without that,
544
00:33:17,274 --> 00:33:19,434
we'll have to take her name
off the indictment.
545
00:33:20,883 --> 00:33:22,042
What, you...?
546
00:33:22,067 --> 00:33:24,066
What, you mean he is not
going to stand trial
547
00:33:24,091 --> 00:33:25,771
for murdering my daughter?
548
00:33:27,557 --> 00:33:28,917
I'm sorry.
549
00:33:29,650 --> 00:33:31,649
Well, this is Fulcher's fault!
550
00:33:32,157 --> 00:33:33,997
He's fucked up here, he has!
551
00:33:36,717 --> 00:33:38,357
How can this be fair?
552
00:33:39,263 --> 00:33:41,262
Everybody knows he did it.
553
00:33:41,604 --> 00:33:44,603
That judge knows it. The lawyer
knows it. You know it. I know it.
554
00:33:44,604 --> 00:33:46,718
So how can that be right?
555
00:33:46,743 --> 00:33:49,190
Please, can you just tell me,
how can this be right?
556
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,540
WOMAN REPORTER: Christopher
Halliwell was brought to court
557
00:33:57,541 --> 00:33:59,000
under police protection.
558
00:33:59,001 --> 00:34:02,452
The 47-year-old mini cab driver
is accused of killing Sian
559
00:34:02,453 --> 00:34:04,981
as she walked home alone
from a girls' night out.
560
00:34:04,982 --> 00:34:07,307
- MAN: Come here, you!
- [BANGING ON THE VAN]
561
00:34:07,308 --> 00:34:09,610
The police had asked them to stay calm
562
00:34:09,611 --> 00:34:11,868
and let the legal process
take its course.
563
00:34:11,869 --> 00:34:13,201
[BANGING ON THE VAN]
564
00:34:13,202 --> 00:34:16,603
But the strength of feeling
is etched on people's faces here.
565
00:34:16,604 --> 00:34:18,604
[CROWD SHOUTS ABUSE]
566
00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:53,423
[DOOR OPENS]
567
00:35:36,917 --> 00:35:39,277
Will the defendant please rise?
568
00:35:44,497 --> 00:35:49,496
Christopher John Halliwell, you are
charged that, on March 19th, 2011,
569
00:35:49,521 --> 00:35:54,070
you did murder Sian O'Callaghan,
contrary to common law.
570
00:35:54,350 --> 00:35:55,550
How do you plead?
571
00:36:03,217 --> 00:36:04,217
Guilty.
572
00:36:14,163 --> 00:36:15,362
Christopher John Halliwell,
573
00:36:15,387 --> 00:36:18,347
you have advanced little
by way of mitigation.
574
00:36:20,604 --> 00:36:23,930
I accept, however,
that your plea of guilty
575
00:36:23,955 --> 00:36:27,954
has avoided Sian's family
having to endure a trial,
576
00:36:28,244 --> 00:36:30,243
which is an important factor.
577
00:36:30,268 --> 00:36:34,267
Having careful regard to the overall
seriousness of this offence,
578
00:36:34,604 --> 00:36:37,603
the starting point will be 30 years.
579
00:36:37,604 --> 00:36:42,603
However, I will allow a discount of
five years for your plea of guilty.
580
00:36:42,604 --> 00:36:45,538
I therefore rule that the minimum
term that you shall serve
581
00:36:45,539 --> 00:36:47,604
will be 25 years.
582
00:36:49,877 --> 00:36:51,517
Take him down.
583
00:36:57,669 --> 00:36:59,230
All rise.
584
00:37:03,163 --> 00:37:05,522
WOMAN REPORTER: Christopher
Halliwell could have been facing
585
00:37:05,547 --> 00:37:07,930
a jail term for murders of two women.
586
00:37:07,955 --> 00:37:09,954
Instead, he was given life for one
587
00:37:09,979 --> 00:37:12,659
and, it appears,
escaped justice for another.
588
00:37:24,949 --> 00:37:27,949
So, I came to apologise to you both.
589
00:37:28,704 --> 00:37:31,063
You have got nothing
to apologise for, Steve.
590
00:37:31,088 --> 00:37:32,887
Well...
591
00:37:32,912 --> 00:37:35,130
If you hadn't done what you did,
we'd never have found Becky.
592
00:37:35,155 --> 00:37:36,775
Well...
593
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,410
...not everyone sees it that way.
594
00:37:38,435 --> 00:37:39,990
What I can't understand
595
00:37:40,015 --> 00:37:44,013
is why nobody seems to be applying
any common sense here.
596
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:46,229
Why would that lawyer be fighting so hard
597
00:37:46,254 --> 00:37:47,613
to set free someone like Halliwell,
598
00:37:47,964 --> 00:37:50,603
who's admitted, himself,
that he killed two young girls?
599
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:54,603
Why put all that effort
into defending someone who's guilty?
600
00:37:54,604 --> 00:37:56,603
Oh, I don't know, the principle, I guess.
601
00:37:56,604 --> 00:37:57,751
What principle?
602
00:37:57,752 --> 00:37:59,404
And what about justice?
603
00:37:59,405 --> 00:38:02,603
They say that Halliwell
was oppressed by you.
604
00:38:02,604 --> 00:38:04,603
Well, I bet Becky and Sian
were oppressed by him
605
00:38:04,604 --> 00:38:06,604
just before he killed them, but...
606
00:38:07,504 --> 00:38:09,504
...that doesn't seem to matter, does it?
607
00:38:12,137 --> 00:38:14,136
Look, I've thought about this a lot
and...
608
00:38:14,604 --> 00:38:18,676
...if it's any consolation,
I can honestly say, hand on heart,
609
00:38:18,677 --> 00:38:22,603
I wouldn't have done anything
different. I don't see how I could.
610
00:38:22,604 --> 00:38:25,104
We're behind you
one hundred percent, Steve.
611
00:38:25,105 --> 00:38:26,418
Mm.
612
00:38:26,443 --> 00:38:28,442
You brought my little girl home.
613
00:38:29,150 --> 00:38:31,270
We can't thank you enough
for what you've done for us.
614
00:38:32,644 --> 00:38:33,910
Thank you.
615
00:38:34,604 --> 00:38:36,604
That does mean a lot to me.
616
00:38:44,197 --> 00:38:46,676
Contact the DVLA, madam,
and they'll deal with it.
617
00:38:47,016 --> 00:38:48,536
OK, all right. Thank you.
618
00:38:51,604 --> 00:38:53,284
Yes, sir?
619
00:38:53,824 --> 00:38:56,824
I want to make a complaint
about one of your police officers.
620
00:38:58,130 --> 00:38:59,329
His name...
621
00:38:59,804 --> 00:39:03,604
...is Detective Superintendent
Stephen Fulcher.
622
00:39:09,604 --> 00:39:12,603
Well, it's a complaint, Steve.
A complaint's a complaint.
623
00:39:12,604 --> 00:39:14,864
And as the lead for Professional
Standards for the force,
624
00:39:14,865 --> 00:39:16,064
I have to take it seriously.
625
00:39:16,065 --> 00:39:18,566
But half the stuff he's complaining
about is nothing to do with me.
626
00:39:18,567 --> 00:39:20,770
I mean, not being invited
to a press conference.
627
00:39:21,077 --> 00:39:24,076
Us calling her Becky Godden-Edwards,
not just Godden.
628
00:39:24,101 --> 00:39:25,101
I had no say in that.
629
00:39:25,126 --> 00:39:28,124
And the thing about my actions
preventing justice for Becky...
630
00:39:28,149 --> 00:39:30,508
We wouldn't have found Becky
if it wasn't for my actions.
631
00:39:30,964 --> 00:39:33,603
Well, I'll have to make a decision
on whether to refer it to the IPCC
632
00:39:33,604 --> 00:39:36,803
and whether it constitutes
just misconduct or gross misconduct.
633
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:39,190
- Really?
- Mm.
634
00:39:43,016 --> 00:39:44,216
[HE SIGHS HEAVILY]
635
00:39:45,870 --> 00:39:47,029
- Ah.
- Steve.
636
00:39:47,054 --> 00:39:48,054
Sir, I need a word.
637
00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:50,644
- OK.
- Thanks.
638
00:40:15,790 --> 00:40:16,790
What is it?
639
00:40:17,604 --> 00:40:18,830
It's all clear.
640
00:40:19,904 --> 00:40:20,962
What is?
641
00:40:20,987 --> 00:40:22,550
I had a biopsy.
642
00:40:23,604 --> 00:40:26,070
- But you told me...
- It's benign.
643
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:35,390
Don't you ever go through something
like that on your own again, hm?
644
00:40:43,604 --> 00:40:45,284
I just feel guilty.
645
00:40:46,750 --> 00:40:49,550
Guilty that it's me
who's been given another chance.
646
00:40:54,497 --> 00:40:56,856
I'm sorry, sir, but it's bollocks.
647
00:40:56,881 --> 00:40:59,130
None of what he's complaining about
makes any sense.
648
00:40:59,155 --> 00:41:01,154
And, for most of his points,
I'm the wrong respondent.
649
00:41:01,179 --> 00:41:02,876
All right, leave it with me, Steve.
650
00:41:02,901 --> 00:41:05,202
- I'll have a quiet word with Mike.
- Would you?
651
00:41:05,517 --> 00:41:07,830
I'd appreciate that. Thanks.
652
00:41:11,677 --> 00:41:13,477
Oh, hello. Come in.
653
00:41:14,757 --> 00:41:16,077
Thanks.
654
00:41:17,763 --> 00:41:20,190
As you know, the case against Halliwell
655
00:41:20,215 --> 00:41:22,430
for Becky's murder collapsed in court.
656
00:41:23,797 --> 00:41:27,276
But at least we were able to answer
the mystery of her disappearance
657
00:41:27,604 --> 00:41:32,070
and end what must have been for you
the terrible pain of not knowing.
658
00:41:32,604 --> 00:41:35,950
Yes. And, for that,
we are very grateful to Steve Fulcher.
659
00:41:36,457 --> 00:41:39,456
The good news is that we were able
to convict Halliwell
660
00:41:39,481 --> 00:41:40,687
for Sian's murder.
661
00:41:40,712 --> 00:41:45,290
And, as you know, he received a
sentence of 25 years' imprisonment.
662
00:41:45,315 --> 00:41:47,514
Yeah, minus the time
he's spent on remand.
663
00:41:47,804 --> 00:41:49,444
Yeah.
664
00:41:49,469 --> 00:41:52,468
Given that we do not have enough evidence
665
00:41:52,493 --> 00:41:54,812
to convict Halliwell for Becky's murder,
666
00:41:55,416 --> 00:41:59,416
Wiltshire Police Service
hopes that you are, er, satisfied...
667
00:42:00,310 --> 00:42:02,309
...that, were Halliwell
ever to be released,
668
00:42:02,334 --> 00:42:04,693
he would be a very, very old man.
669
00:42:05,425 --> 00:42:07,350
You see, you don't understand me at all.
670
00:42:08,417 --> 00:42:11,416
Yes, Halliwell is going to be
in prison for a very long time,
671
00:42:11,441 --> 00:42:13,748
but not so long
that he won't ever get out.
672
00:42:13,773 --> 00:42:15,450
And Sian's family have got justice.
673
00:42:15,475 --> 00:42:18,270
And I'm pleased for them. Truly, I am.
674
00:42:18,295 --> 00:42:19,896
But where is Becky in the pecking order?
675
00:42:19,921 --> 00:42:21,891
She's right down at the bottom,
where's she's always been.
676
00:42:21,916 --> 00:42:24,510
How dare you trample over my daughter?
677
00:42:26,290 --> 00:42:29,289
We're not gonna let go of this,
not one bit.
678
00:42:29,604 --> 00:42:32,090
Not till that man is made to pay
for what he did to my Becky.
679
00:42:32,115 --> 00:42:34,634
So you go back and you tell your
bosses, no, I am not satisfied.
680
00:42:34,659 --> 00:42:36,139
Not at all.
681
00:42:50,050 --> 00:42:51,569
Steve...
682
00:42:51,863 --> 00:42:53,342
I had a word with Mike.
683
00:42:53,604 --> 00:42:57,444
Unfortunately, he's already
referred it to the IPCC.
684
00:42:58,410 --> 00:43:00,409
They're going to charge you.
685
00:43:00,434 --> 00:43:02,434
Gross misconduct.
686
00:43:03,090 --> 00:43:04,290
Sorry.
687
00:43:07,803 --> 00:43:09,282
[DOOR CLOSES]
688
00:43:09,307 --> 00:43:10,466
Fuck...
689
00:43:10,491 --> 00:43:11,491
Fuck, fuck, fuck...
53391
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