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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,173 - Are you going to tell me where Sian is. - Have you got a car? 2 00:00:02,173 --> 00:00:04,237 She's down the side somewhere along here. 3 00:00:04,238 --> 00:00:06,912 I moved her body a couple of nights ago. 4 00:00:06,913 --> 00:00:08,555 - Her body? - Yeah. 5 00:00:08,556 --> 00:00:11,078 - I was hoping we were gonna save her. - Yeah, it's a shitty day. 6 00:00:11,079 --> 00:00:14,664 - We need to chat, me and you, now. - What do you want to talk about? 7 00:00:14,665 --> 00:00:17,913 - Do you want another one? - Another one? 8 00:00:19,235 --> 00:00:20,321 She's down there. 9 00:00:20,322 --> 00:00:23,140 I was today taken to the locations of two bodies, 10 00:00:23,141 --> 00:00:25,405 but, thus far, only one has been recovered. 11 00:00:25,406 --> 00:00:26,952 That second girl is Becky. 12 00:00:26,953 --> 00:00:28,913 [APPLAUSE] 13 00:00:29,578 --> 00:00:32,736 Keir and I just wanted to add our congratulations to everybody else's. 14 00:00:32,737 --> 00:00:33,784 Oh, thank you. 15 00:00:33,809 --> 00:00:36,722 I did hear the confessions weren't PACE compliant. 16 00:00:36,723 --> 00:00:38,722 No. In my opinion, they were. 17 00:00:38,723 --> 00:00:40,722 Well, I'm sure it'll all come out in the wash. 18 00:00:40,723 --> 00:00:43,722 We've got a match for the second girl, Rebecca Godden. 19 00:00:43,723 --> 00:00:45,722 We've got an address for the mother. 20 00:00:45,723 --> 00:00:48,339 - I know why you're here. - Mrs Edwards, can I come in? 21 00:00:48,340 --> 00:00:49,723 - What's going on? - It's the police. 22 00:00:49,724 --> 00:00:52,722 They're here to tell me that Becky's dead. Aren't you? 23 00:00:52,723 --> 00:00:53,723 Sorry. Yes, I am. 24 00:00:53,724 --> 00:00:56,242 - No! I can't...! - Karen! 25 00:00:56,243 --> 00:00:57,440 Steve! 26 00:00:57,441 --> 00:00:58,532 Karen... 27 00:00:58,533 --> 00:01:01,550 [SHE CRIES OUT IN ANGUISH] 28 00:01:01,577 --> 00:01:02,763 Karen... 29 00:01:45,055 --> 00:01:47,015 [HE KNOCKS ON THE DOOR] 30 00:01:51,376 --> 00:01:54,053 John Godden? Father of Becky Godden? 31 00:01:55,209 --> 00:01:56,209 [HE SOBS] 32 00:01:56,234 --> 00:01:58,773 What am I gonna do without my little Becky? 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,403 [SOBBING CONTINUES] 34 00:02:06,429 --> 00:02:08,628 Mr Godden, could I please ask...? 35 00:02:08,653 --> 00:02:10,452 [HE SOBS] 36 00:02:10,477 --> 00:02:14,112 Mr Godden, does that name mean anything to you? 37 00:02:14,137 --> 00:02:15,180 - Christopher Halliwell? - No... 38 00:02:15,403 --> 00:02:17,563 No, I never heard of him. 39 00:02:18,469 --> 00:02:20,148 Oh...! 40 00:02:20,173 --> 00:02:21,492 Mr Godden... 41 00:02:21,517 --> 00:02:23,516 ...when did you last see Becky? 42 00:02:23,723 --> 00:02:25,562 It was... 43 00:02:25,563 --> 00:02:29,493 It was me and Karen splitting up, that's why she went off the rails. 44 00:02:31,723 --> 00:02:32,723 Mr Godden... 45 00:02:33,723 --> 00:02:36,723 - Yeah? - So, when did you last see Becky? 46 00:02:38,069 --> 00:02:40,029 Oh, er... 47 00:02:41,083 --> 00:02:42,723 Hm... 48 00:02:43,723 --> 00:02:46,562 A while back. I don't remember when. 49 00:02:46,563 --> 00:02:49,416 I knew something like this was gonna happen now. 50 00:02:49,417 --> 00:02:51,723 Everything's going against us. 51 00:02:52,502 --> 00:02:55,964 My other daughter, she needs special care. 52 00:02:55,989 --> 00:02:58,526 Which I'm trying to organise. But this is... 53 00:03:00,243 --> 00:03:01,933 It's just one blow after another. 54 00:03:04,662 --> 00:03:06,662 [THEY BOTH SOB] 55 00:03:08,723 --> 00:03:10,722 Becky was killed in 2003. 56 00:03:10,723 --> 00:03:12,722 Sian in 2011. 57 00:03:12,723 --> 00:03:15,275 Eight years. Now, that is too long a gap 58 00:03:15,276 --> 00:03:18,143 for him not to have been involved in any others in between. 59 00:03:18,168 --> 00:03:20,313 - Steve... - I mean, why say 60 00:03:20,338 --> 00:03:22,161 that you think the murder 61 00:03:22,162 --> 00:03:24,722 was in 2003, 2004 or 2005, 62 00:03:24,723 --> 00:03:26,259 unless there are other murders 63 00:03:26,260 --> 00:03:28,252 and you've got them mixed up in your head? 64 00:03:28,253 --> 00:03:30,243 I need you to stand down. 65 00:03:31,482 --> 00:03:34,253 Take a break and recharge the batteries. 66 00:03:35,723 --> 00:03:37,722 As soon as we can get it arranged, 67 00:03:37,723 --> 00:03:40,722 we're planning to put in a small team from MCIT Bristol 68 00:03:40,723 --> 00:03:43,722 to wrap things up, so we can all move on... 69 00:03:43,723 --> 00:03:45,722 - You're not listening to me. - ..after a brilliant result. 70 00:03:45,723 --> 00:03:47,493 There will be more victims, Pat. 71 00:03:51,810 --> 00:03:54,698 He said they're cutting everything back and they want to replace me. 72 00:03:54,723 --> 00:03:57,722 No, not straight away, but they're making me hand the case over. 73 00:03:57,723 --> 00:04:00,107 Well, what else am I supposed to do? 74 00:04:00,108 --> 00:04:02,722 It's like they're not even prepared to acknowledge the fact 75 00:04:02,723 --> 00:04:05,416 of the notion that we might have a serial killer on our hands. 76 00:04:05,417 --> 00:04:07,722 Listen, anyway, I'd better go. I'm at the checkout. 77 00:04:07,723 --> 00:04:09,333 OK, love you. Bye-bye. 78 00:04:10,575 --> 00:04:11,575 Number two, please. 79 00:04:14,442 --> 00:04:16,442 - �42.70, please. - Thank you. 80 00:04:18,342 --> 00:04:19,541 Sorry, excuse me. 81 00:04:19,923 --> 00:04:23,722 Aren't you the policeman who was on the Sian O'Callaghan case? 82 00:04:23,723 --> 00:04:26,099 - Er... - It is you, isn't it? 83 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:28,722 Well, it was a team effort, but, er... 84 00:04:28,723 --> 00:04:31,181 - Can I just shake your hand, please? - Thanks. 85 00:04:31,182 --> 00:04:32,535 Bloody brilliant what you did. 86 00:04:32,536 --> 00:04:34,126 I couldn't believe you caught him so quick. 87 00:04:34,127 --> 00:04:35,332 - Thank you. - This is, er... 88 00:04:35,333 --> 00:04:38,723 This is the guy who found Sian O'Callaghan's killer. 89 00:04:39,723 --> 00:04:41,722 Well done. 90 00:04:41,723 --> 00:04:43,242 [APPLAUSE CONTINUES] 91 00:04:43,243 --> 00:04:45,013 - Nice one. Good job. - Thank you. 92 00:04:46,083 --> 00:04:47,893 - Nice one, mate. - Thank you. 93 00:05:04,723 --> 00:05:06,122 OK, his bag's packed. 94 00:05:06,123 --> 00:05:08,722 - He's just choosing a DVD. - OK. 95 00:05:08,723 --> 00:05:10,973 Before you go, I, erm... 96 00:05:11,723 --> 00:05:13,563 I've got something for you. 97 00:05:19,336 --> 00:05:21,335 It's a lock of Sian's hair. 98 00:05:21,375 --> 00:05:23,817 The funeral parlour did it for us. 99 00:05:24,373 --> 00:05:26,723 I've got one and I've given one to Mum. 100 00:05:28,563 --> 00:05:29,723 Thanks. 101 00:05:30,723 --> 00:05:32,475 I'll call tomorrow about the funeral, 102 00:05:32,476 --> 00:05:34,231 just to go through the arrangements with you. 103 00:05:34,256 --> 00:05:35,747 Right. 104 00:05:36,249 --> 00:05:38,928 - Go on, what did you choose? - Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs. 105 00:05:38,953 --> 00:05:40,893 Oh, not that again! 106 00:05:41,589 --> 00:05:42,853 Come on, then. 107 00:05:48,723 --> 00:05:50,152 - Bye, Aiden. - Bye. 108 00:05:50,153 --> 00:05:52,493 - Bye. - Bye, sweetheart. Bye. 109 00:05:57,723 --> 00:06:00,722 Why are you going to speak to Mick about the funeral details? 110 00:06:00,723 --> 00:06:01,922 Because he's Sian's father. 111 00:06:01,923 --> 00:06:04,722 Yeah, he doesn't need to be worrying about all that. 112 00:06:04,723 --> 00:06:06,722 He's got enough on his plate. 113 00:06:06,723 --> 00:06:09,133 Anyway, it's all done. 114 00:06:10,723 --> 00:06:11,922 What is? 115 00:06:12,533 --> 00:06:13,722 The funeral. 116 00:06:14,173 --> 00:06:16,722 I've booked for us to go and see Hilliers. 117 00:06:16,723 --> 00:06:18,922 - What? - Yeah, I just said to myself, 118 00:06:18,923 --> 00:06:21,393 "We need to apply the KISS principle." 119 00:06:21,394 --> 00:06:22,723 Keep it simple, stupid. 120 00:06:22,724 --> 00:06:24,133 Now... 121 00:06:24,563 --> 00:06:26,722 ...have you been to see the doctor about...? 122 00:06:26,723 --> 00:06:29,180 No. I haven't been able to face it. 123 00:06:29,181 --> 00:06:31,082 Right, I am booking you an appointment 124 00:06:31,083 --> 00:06:32,722 and I am taking you there myself. 125 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:35,029 No ifs or buts. 126 00:06:42,013 --> 00:06:43,722 Hello, Declan! 127 00:06:43,723 --> 00:06:45,402 It's me. It's Chris. 128 00:06:45,403 --> 00:06:47,083 Chris. How are you, mate? 129 00:06:47,955 --> 00:06:50,954 Yeah, not so bad. Stuck in here, of course. 130 00:06:51,243 --> 00:06:53,253 I'm on remand at the moment. 131 00:06:53,496 --> 00:06:55,495 Well, it's a lot of waiting around, really. 132 00:06:55,723 --> 00:06:58,402 But it's changed a lot since I was last in here. 133 00:06:58,403 --> 00:07:00,723 Well, it was much more stricter then. 134 00:07:01,476 --> 00:07:03,475 Well, it's a load of bollocks, mate. 135 00:07:03,723 --> 00:07:05,722 But they want to interview me. 136 00:07:06,133 --> 00:07:08,723 Yeah, they want to interview me about eight murders. 137 00:07:09,723 --> 00:07:11,722 [HE LAUGHS] 138 00:07:11,723 --> 00:07:14,377 I don't know, mate. I don't know. 139 00:07:14,378 --> 00:07:17,722 WOMAN ON RADIO: For over a week her identity was a mystery. 140 00:07:17,723 --> 00:07:21,722 But detectives have finally been able to name the unknown woman, 141 00:07:21,723 --> 00:07:24,723 her body found buried at a Cotswold beauty spot... 142 00:07:33,623 --> 00:07:34,623 Where is everyone? 143 00:07:34,648 --> 00:07:37,327 - Re-assigned overnight. - Already? 144 00:07:39,723 --> 00:07:42,573 I've only been given to the end of the week myself. 145 00:07:47,203 --> 00:07:49,683 Right, get everyone who we have left in the briefing room. 146 00:07:50,723 --> 00:07:52,723 Jesus Christ...! 147 00:07:53,723 --> 00:07:56,439 OK, so the news back from the lab is mixed. 148 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,722 The good news is there's a match for Sian's DNA 149 00:07:58,723 --> 00:08:00,225 on the spots of blood on the car seat covers 150 00:08:00,226 --> 00:08:01,723 Halliwell was trying to dispose of. 151 00:08:01,724 --> 00:08:04,722 Yeah, but surely he could just say that he was a cab driver 152 00:08:04,723 --> 00:08:08,242 and Sian got in as a passenger and had a nosebleed or something. 153 00:08:08,243 --> 00:08:11,722 Yeah. Although there is a match for Halliwell's DNA on Sian's body 154 00:08:11,723 --> 00:08:12,762 from the bite mark to her breast. 155 00:08:12,763 --> 00:08:14,403 But it's only partial. 156 00:08:14,949 --> 00:08:16,576 No match from the perfume bottle. 157 00:08:16,577 --> 00:08:19,722 Erm, there is actually a full female DNA profile on it, 158 00:08:19,723 --> 00:08:20,723 but it's not Sian's or Becky's. 159 00:08:20,724 --> 00:08:22,723 Which begs the question, whose is it? 160 00:08:24,083 --> 00:08:26,722 Also they've been unable to positively identify the item 161 00:08:26,723 --> 00:08:28,487 he left burning in the middle of the road. 162 00:08:28,488 --> 00:08:30,722 What are they saying about the gaffer tape gag 163 00:08:30,723 --> 00:08:33,082 - found with Becky's body? - Very unlikely to provide any profile, 164 00:08:33,083 --> 00:08:35,093 given how long it's been in the ground. 165 00:08:36,053 --> 00:08:38,087 Right, I think we're going to find other victims. 166 00:08:38,088 --> 00:08:40,527 There's a big gap between Becky and Sian's murders. 167 00:08:40,528 --> 00:08:44,166 So cross-reference Halliwell's known whereabouts between those dates 168 00:08:44,167 --> 00:08:46,723 against cold cases and mispers. 169 00:08:47,723 --> 00:08:51,135 None of us knows how much longer we have got left on this investigation, 170 00:08:51,136 --> 00:08:52,162 myself included. 171 00:08:52,163 --> 00:08:56,241 There are currently 1,500 actions pending on the Holmes System. 172 00:08:56,242 --> 00:09:00,488 We actually need double the team that we had a few days ago, 173 00:09:00,489 --> 00:09:02,319 and we have less than half now. 174 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,722 I'm not quite sure how that logic prevails, 175 00:09:04,723 --> 00:09:07,580 but, erm, let's do what we can, eh? 176 00:09:07,580 --> 00:09:09,580 Right, see you soon. 177 00:09:32,037 --> 00:09:33,516 What have we done? 178 00:09:33,517 --> 00:09:35,517 Oh, sit down, for God's sake. 179 00:09:38,517 --> 00:09:41,517 [HE TRIES TO HOLD BACK A SOB] 180 00:09:47,037 --> 00:09:48,517 Oh... 181 00:09:51,037 --> 00:09:53,990 - Do you want anything? - I'll have a cup of tea. 182 00:09:54,870 --> 00:09:56,390 And a bacon sarnie. 183 00:10:01,517 --> 00:10:03,197 [HE SIGHS HEAVILY] 184 00:10:05,517 --> 00:10:07,517 What are we gonna do without her? 185 00:10:08,877 --> 00:10:11,516 She was our little girl. 186 00:10:11,517 --> 00:10:13,517 - Here you go. - Thank you. 187 00:10:14,557 --> 00:10:17,516 I asked to see you, John, because I want to know something. 188 00:10:17,517 --> 00:10:18,556 Oh... 189 00:10:18,557 --> 00:10:20,940 I want to know how you and your family 190 00:10:20,941 --> 00:10:22,516 were telling me you'd seen Becky 191 00:10:22,517 --> 00:10:24,517 when, all along, she was dead in the ground. 192 00:10:25,710 --> 00:10:27,516 No, it's not right. 193 00:10:27,517 --> 00:10:30,516 2003 she was murdered, John. 194 00:10:30,517 --> 00:10:33,036 But I've been told that your dad, your nephew, 195 00:10:33,037 --> 00:10:36,079 all different members of your family have said they've seen her 196 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,990 - as recent as a couple of years ago. - I don't know. 197 00:10:40,037 --> 00:10:42,516 - Maybe they got the dates wrong. - Nonsense. 198 00:10:42,517 --> 00:10:43,876 Your dad... 199 00:10:43,877 --> 00:10:47,517 Your dad would remember when he saw his own granddaughter, wouldn't he? 200 00:10:48,517 --> 00:10:50,516 Well, his memory's not as good as it was. 201 00:10:50,517 --> 00:10:51,953 It's not good enough, John. 202 00:10:51,954 --> 00:10:55,516 Because while you lot were telling me you'd seen her, 203 00:10:55,517 --> 00:10:57,919 she never got properly reported as missing. 204 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,516 [HE SLURPS] 205 00:10:59,517 --> 00:11:02,830 Well, you can't blame me for your own guilty conscience. 206 00:11:03,517 --> 00:11:04,876 I knew... 207 00:11:04,877 --> 00:11:08,294 I knew she would have come to see me if she was still alive. 208 00:11:08,295 --> 00:11:09,517 I knew it. 209 00:11:10,517 --> 00:11:11,750 Why, John? 210 00:11:11,751 --> 00:11:13,037 Oh... 211 00:11:14,350 --> 00:11:15,350 Was it...? 212 00:11:18,357 --> 00:11:20,516 Was it just to try and hurt me? 213 00:11:20,517 --> 00:11:21,783 Hm? Was that it? 214 00:11:21,784 --> 00:11:24,110 You're talking trash, as usual. 215 00:11:25,670 --> 00:11:28,517 God forgive you lot for what you've done. 216 00:11:37,517 --> 00:11:39,516 The reason I got in touch is, er... 217 00:11:39,517 --> 00:11:41,872 ...cos I shared a cell with Halliwell 218 00:11:42,350 --> 00:11:45,516 round about '87, '88 maybe. 219 00:11:45,517 --> 00:11:47,516 He was just in for nicking stuff, as I remember. 220 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:49,950 And what was it that disturbed you? 221 00:11:51,517 --> 00:11:53,516 Two things I brought to mind. 222 00:11:53,517 --> 00:11:54,790 Er... 223 00:11:55,231 --> 00:11:57,230 Once, he asks me, 224 00:11:57,255 --> 00:12:01,255 "Have you ever had sex with a woman while you're strangling her?" 225 00:12:02,065 --> 00:12:05,090 I remember that. Another time, we're lying there on the bunks, 226 00:12:05,091 --> 00:12:06,990 and this time he asks me, 227 00:12:07,517 --> 00:12:11,516 "How many do you have to kill to be a serial killer?" 228 00:12:11,517 --> 00:12:12,517 Mm. 229 00:12:12,518 --> 00:12:15,517 Tends to stick in your mind, them sort of things. 230 00:12:16,517 --> 00:12:19,516 Oh, his big hero, I can tell you, 231 00:12:19,517 --> 00:12:24,190 was that Myra Hindley off the Moors Murders. 232 00:12:25,517 --> 00:12:27,064 They want to interview me. 233 00:12:27,065 --> 00:12:29,716 Yeah, they want to interview me about eight murders. 234 00:12:29,717 --> 00:12:32,516 From a phone call two days ago. 235 00:12:32,910 --> 00:12:34,516 Eight. 236 00:12:34,517 --> 00:12:37,025 Who's mentioned eight? Certainly not us. 237 00:12:37,026 --> 00:12:39,876 - Who's he talking to? - A mate of his he phoned from prison. 238 00:12:39,877 --> 00:12:41,516 He's known him since school. 239 00:12:41,950 --> 00:12:43,517 2003, Becky. 240 00:12:44,517 --> 00:12:46,516 2011, Sian. 241 00:12:46,517 --> 00:12:49,516 - Eight years. - Eight years, eight murders. 242 00:12:49,517 --> 00:12:52,117 This is surely grounds for further investigation. 243 00:12:52,118 --> 00:12:53,876 We have to step up resources again. 244 00:12:53,877 --> 00:12:56,516 Steve, I've decided I'm moving on. 245 00:12:56,950 --> 00:12:59,517 I'm going to take up a post with the UK Border Force. 246 00:13:00,517 --> 00:13:02,684 Regardless, this recording may not be enough 247 00:13:02,685 --> 00:13:04,210 to keep this investigation open. 248 00:13:04,211 --> 00:13:05,556 Sir... 249 00:13:05,557 --> 00:13:08,876 ...we are starting to get hits and matches 250 00:13:08,877 --> 00:13:11,308 with unsolved murders and missing persons. 251 00:13:11,309 --> 00:13:14,196 Locally, there's a sex worker went missing in the early '90s, 252 00:13:14,197 --> 00:13:16,516 body never found, last seen just around the corner 253 00:13:16,517 --> 00:13:19,187 from where Halliwell lived at the time. 254 00:13:19,188 --> 00:13:22,032 And there will be others, absolutely no doubt. 255 00:13:22,033 --> 00:13:24,516 Halliwell's hero is Myra Hindley. 256 00:13:24,517 --> 00:13:27,314 We need more resources, not less. 257 00:13:27,315 --> 00:13:30,168 Sir, we have got to investigate this properly, 258 00:13:30,169 --> 00:13:32,516 find out if there are any matches around the country. 259 00:13:32,517 --> 00:13:34,716 Steve, it's not going to be my call, OK? 260 00:13:34,717 --> 00:13:36,716 It's gonna be Pat Geenty taking over as Chief, 261 00:13:36,717 --> 00:13:39,023 and, no doubt, Mike Veale becoming his deputy. 262 00:13:39,024 --> 00:13:40,459 It's gonna be for them to decide 263 00:13:40,460 --> 00:13:43,517 if they want to put any more resources into this, not me. 264 00:14:01,517 --> 00:14:03,030 Evening. 265 00:14:03,517 --> 00:14:04,517 Nice to see you. 266 00:14:04,518 --> 00:14:06,111 Usual deal, none of what we talk about 267 00:14:06,112 --> 00:14:08,259 can be used by ITV until after the verdict. 268 00:14:08,260 --> 00:14:09,517 Yeah, agreed. 269 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:11,516 Well, he's a serial killer. 270 00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:13,716 Rob, I am convinced of it. 271 00:14:13,717 --> 00:14:16,516 On top of the two that we know he's killed, 272 00:14:16,517 --> 00:14:17,716 I think there's probably another six. 273 00:14:17,717 --> 00:14:19,308 Six?! 274 00:14:19,309 --> 00:14:21,717 Mm-hm. But I need a bigger team to properly investigate him. 275 00:14:38,350 --> 00:14:40,349 I love that jacket. 276 00:14:40,374 --> 00:14:42,086 That was her favourite. I couldn't wear it. 277 00:14:42,111 --> 00:14:44,238 Just have it as a keepsake. 278 00:14:50,737 --> 00:14:52,070 Can you finish this one? 279 00:14:59,157 --> 00:15:01,157 When do you think you're going to move back in, Kev? 280 00:15:02,517 --> 00:15:05,110 I will at some point. But... just not now. 281 00:15:20,517 --> 00:15:22,517 Why don't you sort something out for her to wear? 282 00:15:25,517 --> 00:15:27,516 For the funeral. Don't tell me what you choose. 283 00:15:27,517 --> 00:15:29,517 It'll just be between the two of you. 284 00:15:50,019 --> 00:15:51,870 - Not too tight. - OK. 285 00:15:59,792 --> 00:16:01,792 You look so smart. 286 00:16:08,272 --> 00:16:10,271 Come on, Pete, Sharon's her auntie. 287 00:16:10,532 --> 00:16:12,371 - It's only a poem, please. - I'm sorry, Sharon, 288 00:16:12,396 --> 00:16:14,555 but we've only got a certain amount of allotted time 289 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:16,579 and the service has all been very carefully worked out. 290 00:16:16,604 --> 00:16:17,747 But surely...? 291 00:16:17,772 --> 00:16:19,627 Elaine asked me to do it and I've done it. 292 00:16:19,652 --> 00:16:21,692 - Is the timing really that precise? - Mum, she's here! 293 00:17:03,259 --> 00:17:05,259 God bless her. 294 00:17:09,019 --> 00:17:10,609 MALE REPORTER: Close friends told me 295 00:17:10,610 --> 00:17:13,219 she was outgoing, loyal, fun, caring. 296 00:17:13,220 --> 00:17:15,509 A great auntie to her friends' children. 297 00:17:15,510 --> 00:17:20,019 A young women with so much promise, so much zest for life. 298 00:17:20,325 --> 00:17:22,324 That life was honoured today. 299 00:17:23,019 --> 00:17:26,019 Today proved how much she meant to this town. 300 00:17:31,239 --> 00:17:32,558 Are they for Sian? 301 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:34,039 Yeah. 302 00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:46,018 Mint sauce? 303 00:17:46,019 --> 00:17:48,018 - It's minted lamb! - I like mint sauce. 304 00:17:48,019 --> 00:17:51,019 - Well, how bloody minty do you want it? - Minty. 305 00:18:03,219 --> 00:18:06,018 If we're doing this mother-daughter thing, how's work? 306 00:18:06,019 --> 00:18:08,018 - OK. - Just OK? 307 00:18:08,019 --> 00:18:10,019 I'm not gonna make a career out of it. 308 00:18:13,019 --> 00:18:15,699 I want to have babies, don't I? 309 00:18:26,686 --> 00:18:28,685 It'll be some time before we can... 310 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:30,709 ...release Becky's body for burial. 311 00:18:31,019 --> 00:18:34,018 And we are aware that this is a distressing time for you. 312 00:18:34,019 --> 00:18:37,058 - We want her back. - Of course. 313 00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:42,019 Now, obviously, Becky's body was photographed as we found her. 314 00:18:42,626 --> 00:18:45,310 And as this is an image which will be shown in court... 315 00:18:46,219 --> 00:18:48,522 ...we wanted to give you the opportunity to view it first, 316 00:18:48,523 --> 00:18:50,019 should you feel you wanted to. 317 00:18:52,805 --> 00:18:53,805 Yeah? 318 00:18:54,020 --> 00:18:56,019 - Yeah. - OK. 319 00:18:58,019 --> 00:18:59,410 So... 320 00:18:59,411 --> 00:19:03,019 ...the main photo is her as we found her. 321 00:19:20,463 --> 00:19:23,018 - Karen! - No, I'm all right, I'm all right. 322 00:19:23,019 --> 00:19:25,019 Just leave me down here a minute. 323 00:19:25,785 --> 00:19:27,145 I'll get some water. 324 00:19:28,219 --> 00:19:30,019 [SHE CLEARS HER THROAT] 325 00:19:32,019 --> 00:19:34,019 He cut... 326 00:19:34,566 --> 00:19:35,566 He cut... 327 00:19:36,492 --> 00:19:38,491 He cut her head off... 328 00:19:38,778 --> 00:19:40,778 ...and her hands and her feet. 329 00:19:43,492 --> 00:19:45,226 The pathologist can't be sure 330 00:19:45,251 --> 00:19:48,251 whether Halliwell did that or if animals did. 331 00:19:49,545 --> 00:19:50,545 He did it. 332 00:19:53,852 --> 00:19:56,550 Come on, love, drink this. 333 00:19:58,992 --> 00:20:03,590 Why would he do that to a little girl? 334 00:20:05,406 --> 00:20:07,150 [SHE SOBS] 335 00:20:15,554 --> 00:20:17,019 125 quid fine. 336 00:20:17,020 --> 00:20:20,018 - That's not actually too bad. - And a drugs rehabilitation course. 337 00:20:20,019 --> 00:20:21,019 You can't take that lightly, 338 00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:23,058 or they'll put you back in prison, my young lady. 339 00:20:23,059 --> 00:20:25,018 I ain't done any drugs for three whole weeks. 340 00:20:25,019 --> 00:20:26,019 You'll be so proud of me. 341 00:20:26,020 --> 00:20:27,846 - Also, look at that. - What's that? 342 00:20:27,847 --> 00:20:30,326 One of those prison officers put a cigarette out on my arm. 343 00:20:30,327 --> 00:20:31,673 Such a bitch! 344 00:20:31,674 --> 00:20:33,594 Oh, can we keep the hood down? 345 00:20:33,595 --> 00:20:37,218 I love it with the hood down. And I don't smell bad, I just like it. 346 00:20:37,219 --> 00:20:40,588 We'll get you home, give you a nice bubble bath 347 00:20:40,589 --> 00:20:42,218 and then we'll go out for a posh dinner. 348 00:20:42,219 --> 00:20:44,019 - How about that? - Yeah. 349 00:20:46,699 --> 00:20:49,019 - Mum... - Yeah? 350 00:20:50,019 --> 00:20:52,019 Can I go see my boyfriend first? 351 00:20:56,019 --> 00:20:57,676 - No. - Please, Mum. 352 00:20:57,677 --> 00:20:59,476 I'm so excited to see him. I'll just... 353 00:20:59,477 --> 00:21:02,019 I'll pop in, I'll say hello. That'll be it. 354 00:21:17,372 --> 00:21:19,372 I'm not coming home, Mum. 355 00:21:20,526 --> 00:21:22,019 Becky, get in the car. 356 00:21:23,019 --> 00:21:25,018 I got... I got myself clean. 357 00:21:25,019 --> 00:21:28,019 I can't keep putting you through this. 358 00:21:32,806 --> 00:21:33,806 I'm sorry. 359 00:22:45,479 --> 00:22:47,959 - How are you coping? - OK. 360 00:22:48,959 --> 00:22:50,998 You don't feel the need for any anti-depressants? 361 00:22:50,999 --> 00:22:53,959 I don't see the point. I know why I am depressed. 362 00:22:54,959 --> 00:22:56,958 It was two girls, wasn't it? 363 00:22:56,959 --> 00:22:58,524 Sian and another girl. 364 00:22:58,525 --> 00:22:59,959 Just lift your arm. 365 00:23:01,959 --> 00:23:03,463 All of us here, we're... 366 00:23:04,479 --> 00:23:05,958 ...we're very sorry. 367 00:23:06,303 --> 00:23:10,114 That pisses me off. Sian's name always being mentioned 368 00:23:10,115 --> 00:23:11,959 in the same breath as the other girl. 369 00:23:12,686 --> 00:23:14,046 I'm so sorry, have I got that wrong? 370 00:23:16,466 --> 00:23:17,783 Erm, get dressed again. 371 00:23:18,959 --> 00:23:20,693 No, there was another victim. 372 00:23:20,694 --> 00:23:23,959 But the circumstances were completely different. 373 00:23:25,212 --> 00:23:28,212 She was a drug addict and a prostitute... 374 00:23:28,959 --> 00:23:33,958 ...and must have accepted there was a risk attached to her profession. 375 00:23:33,959 --> 00:23:36,958 Sian was an ordinary girl who had a boyfriend and a job in an office. 376 00:23:36,959 --> 00:23:39,798 She was just on a night out with her friends. 377 00:23:40,263 --> 00:23:41,958 Obviously, I feel sorry for Becky, 378 00:23:41,959 --> 00:23:44,639 but I'd hate for people to think Sian was the same as her. 379 00:23:45,959 --> 00:23:49,958 Well, Elaine, there is something there. 380 00:23:50,303 --> 00:23:53,958 So now we need to take a scan and a biopsy 381 00:23:53,959 --> 00:23:56,343 to try and work out exactly what it is. 382 00:23:56,959 --> 00:24:00,639 So, look, don't worry about it too much just yet. 383 00:24:04,586 --> 00:24:06,934 - Are we seeing him today? - No, just the lawyers. 384 00:24:06,959 --> 00:24:09,263 All the legal arguments. 385 00:24:10,263 --> 00:24:12,366 One of the solicitors said that Halliwell 386 00:24:12,367 --> 00:24:15,383 might try and claim that Sian is a prostitute. 387 00:24:16,583 --> 00:24:18,958 If they start saying that, I'm telling you now, I'm gonna lose it. 388 00:24:18,959 --> 00:24:20,958 - They can't say that! - They won't. 389 00:24:20,959 --> 00:24:23,983 We can clearly demonstrate she was nothing like Becky. 390 00:24:24,959 --> 00:24:26,639 We've got to wait in here, yeah? 391 00:24:32,959 --> 00:24:34,478 I'm Mick, Sian's dad. 392 00:24:34,479 --> 00:24:37,423 - Pleased to meet you. - This is, er, Debbie my wife. 393 00:24:38,959 --> 00:24:40,860 I can't believe Elaine and I 394 00:24:40,861 --> 00:24:42,264 have gone through what we've gone through, 395 00:24:42,265 --> 00:24:44,959 and, all along, we've only lived a few doors away from each other. 396 00:24:48,423 --> 00:24:51,143 But Becky and Sian are together forever now, aren't they? 397 00:24:55,892 --> 00:24:57,372 All rise. 398 00:25:23,463 --> 00:25:25,958 Mr Geenty, I am not allowed to give evidence, 399 00:25:25,959 --> 00:25:29,514 but I can tell you that, apart from in terrorism cases, 400 00:25:29,515 --> 00:25:30,958 I have never come across 401 00:25:30,959 --> 00:25:34,084 the urgent interview provision to PACE being used. 402 00:25:34,085 --> 00:25:37,799 It's a very unusual beast. Would you agree with that? 403 00:25:38,959 --> 00:25:40,103 Yes, it is. 404 00:25:42,423 --> 00:25:45,223 But what it does not mean is that, for example... 405 00:25:46,023 --> 00:25:48,362 ...you can abandon the need to caution. 406 00:25:48,363 --> 00:25:50,958 The PACE guidelines quite clearly indicate 407 00:25:50,959 --> 00:25:53,958 that a person is entitled to have his rights explained to him 408 00:25:53,959 --> 00:25:55,958 and a police officer's duty 409 00:25:55,959 --> 00:25:58,478 is to ensure that they understand those rights. 410 00:25:58,959 --> 00:26:00,478 It is. 411 00:26:00,503 --> 00:26:01,958 And that's an inviolate position. 412 00:26:01,959 --> 00:26:03,635 Yes, it is. 413 00:26:03,636 --> 00:26:07,288 But I have to say that I think the decision that Steve made was, 414 00:26:07,289 --> 00:26:10,799 to use the slang, a gutsy decision. 415 00:26:11,539 --> 00:26:14,943 I'd like to think I'd make a similar decision in the same circumstances. 416 00:26:17,959 --> 00:26:19,958 I've just been told the defence QC 417 00:26:19,959 --> 00:26:21,958 is going to move to have you excluded from the trial. 418 00:26:21,959 --> 00:26:22,959 What? 419 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,958 I'm sure they're just trying it on. 420 00:26:24,959 --> 00:26:27,335 An attempt to rattle you before you testify today. 421 00:26:27,336 --> 00:26:29,958 But what it does mean is they don't really have any defence, 422 00:26:29,959 --> 00:26:31,318 except attacking you. 423 00:26:31,743 --> 00:26:33,958 So that's why they haven't put out a defence statement. 424 00:26:33,959 --> 00:26:35,397 Exactly. 425 00:26:35,398 --> 00:26:36,959 - Right. - Thanks, Ian. 426 00:26:38,959 --> 00:26:41,527 I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, 427 00:26:41,528 --> 00:26:42,959 so help me God. 428 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,958 Detective Superintendent Fulcher, 429 00:26:44,959 --> 00:26:46,958 you knew that Sian O'Callaghan was dead 430 00:26:46,959 --> 00:26:48,958 long before you met Mr Halliwell in that car park, didn't you? 431 00:26:48,959 --> 00:26:51,959 I had no way of knowing if she was dead or alive. 432 00:26:53,503 --> 00:26:55,638 Looking through your own notes at the time, 433 00:26:55,639 --> 00:26:57,958 you talk about "the prospect of recovering her body". 434 00:26:58,583 --> 00:26:59,983 You believed she was dead, didn't you? 435 00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:03,958 Er, I think you're missing the point here. 436 00:27:03,959 --> 00:27:07,958 What I thought, er, hoped or even believed 437 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:11,958 is irrelevant to the execution of my duties as a police officer 438 00:27:11,959 --> 00:27:14,959 and my responsibilities to Sian O'Callaghan. 439 00:27:15,959 --> 00:27:18,543 Barbury Castle's a remote area, isn't it? 440 00:27:19,183 --> 00:27:20,958 Yes, I suppose it is. 441 00:27:20,959 --> 00:27:23,958 About as different from the custody suite of Gable Cross Police Station 442 00:27:23,959 --> 00:27:25,846 as it is possible to envisage, isn't it? 443 00:27:25,871 --> 00:27:26,983 Yes. 444 00:27:28,183 --> 00:27:30,524 What I suggest to you is that you took Mr Halliwell there 445 00:27:30,525 --> 00:27:32,171 because you thought that would be 446 00:27:32,172 --> 00:27:34,958 an additional element of pressure upon him. 447 00:27:34,959 --> 00:27:37,593 That's what you were doing, isn't it? 448 00:27:37,594 --> 00:27:41,958 I believed Barbury Castle was most likely to be where Sian was, 449 00:27:41,959 --> 00:27:44,958 and that, if I took Christopher there for an urgent interview, 450 00:27:44,959 --> 00:27:46,958 it would necessarily mean getting to her quicker, 451 00:27:46,959 --> 00:27:49,958 if he was prepared to tell us where she was. 452 00:27:50,383 --> 00:27:52,459 And if that involved abandoning his PACE rights, 453 00:27:52,460 --> 00:27:53,958 you were prepared to do that? 454 00:27:53,959 --> 00:27:55,958 I believed the urgent interview provision 455 00:27:55,959 --> 00:27:58,958 enabled me to take the course of action that I did. 456 00:27:58,959 --> 00:28:01,639 Mr Fulcher, your own deputy, Detective Inspector Kirby, 457 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,959 told you it was not a good idea 458 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,958 for you to conduct an additional urgent interview 459 00:28:04,959 --> 00:28:07,383 yourself with Halliwell, didn't he? 460 00:28:08,892 --> 00:28:10,532 Yes, he did. 461 00:28:10,959 --> 00:28:13,318 He said you'd be sailing very close to the wind, 462 00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:16,319 in terms of a breach of PACE, didn't he? 463 00:28:17,712 --> 00:28:19,192 Words to that effect. 464 00:28:23,303 --> 00:28:25,336 I can't believe he didn't caution Halliwell. 465 00:28:25,337 --> 00:28:27,369 Why didn't he just do it when he was talking to him? 466 00:28:27,370 --> 00:28:29,042 It's not just the caution, Mum. 467 00:28:29,043 --> 00:28:31,263 They've got to take him to a police station and give him a solicitor. 468 00:28:31,959 --> 00:28:33,671 I feel so sorry for Steve. 469 00:28:33,672 --> 00:28:35,958 That bloody lawyer is really going for him. 470 00:28:35,959 --> 00:28:37,958 I think he's made a mistake. 471 00:28:38,503 --> 00:28:40,958 But if he hadn't done what he did, we'd never have found Becky. 472 00:28:40,959 --> 00:28:43,223 A big fucking mistake. 473 00:28:48,633 --> 00:28:51,632 Let's move on now to the "Do you want another one?" conversation. 474 00:28:51,959 --> 00:28:53,958 As soon as he began talking to you, 475 00:28:53,959 --> 00:28:58,249 you appreciated it had nothing to do with the Sian investigation. 476 00:28:58,604 --> 00:28:59,512 Yes. 477 00:28:59,537 --> 00:29:01,958 Well, surely, as the conversation progressed, you should have said, 478 00:29:02,703 --> 00:29:04,958 "Look, we'll talk about this at the police station later." 479 00:29:04,959 --> 00:29:06,850 That's what you should have said, shouldn't you? 480 00:29:06,851 --> 00:29:09,958 My view was that we were in the moment. 481 00:29:09,959 --> 00:29:12,400 If he was offering the information, I would rather have it 482 00:29:12,401 --> 00:29:15,151 and not curtail it, than not find Becky Godden. 483 00:29:15,152 --> 00:29:17,958 And once Mr Halliwell was taken back to Gable Cross Police Station 484 00:29:17,959 --> 00:29:20,380 and given a solicitor, to your intense annoyance, 485 00:29:20,381 --> 00:29:21,753 he decided he didn't want to answer 486 00:29:21,754 --> 00:29:23,267 any further questions in an interview. 487 00:29:23,463 --> 00:29:24,959 It was frustrating, yes. 488 00:29:25,959 --> 00:29:28,958 And you and your team went out of your way to undermine Mr Coleman, 489 00:29:28,959 --> 00:29:31,999 who attended throughout the interview process, didn't you? 490 00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,423 I thought it was utterly ridiculous... 491 00:29:39,959 --> 00:29:44,249 ...that an individual, who had taken me and numerous other people 492 00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:46,958 from a surveillance convoy to two dead bodies, 493 00:29:46,959 --> 00:29:50,223 should seek to find some mechanism, some... 494 00:29:51,103 --> 00:29:52,958 ...quirk of the law, some loophole, 495 00:29:53,463 --> 00:29:56,743 to get him away from the fact that he was a multiple murderer. 496 00:29:58,023 --> 00:30:00,423 So PACE, in your view, is a loophole? 497 00:30:06,263 --> 00:30:07,958 It was a travesty! 498 00:30:07,959 --> 00:30:09,541 It was like I was on trial. 499 00:30:09,542 --> 00:30:10,958 What about the judge? 500 00:30:10,959 --> 00:30:12,958 Hm, it's hard to tell. 501 00:30:12,959 --> 00:30:15,533 She did seem more impressed with their QC than ours, 502 00:30:15,558 --> 00:30:16,607 I could see that. 503 00:30:17,479 --> 00:30:20,958 And this is the first criminal case she's ever presided over. 504 00:30:20,959 --> 00:30:23,958 Up to now, she's just done family stuff, you know. 505 00:30:23,959 --> 00:30:26,832 But it's not just that Halliwell confessed. 506 00:30:26,833 --> 00:30:28,958 He confessed and he took you to the bodies. 507 00:30:28,959 --> 00:30:30,998 - How can that be a problem? - I don't know. 508 00:30:31,463 --> 00:30:34,638 I mean, their side were looking very confident. 509 00:30:34,639 --> 00:30:36,958 They're trying to paint me as some sort of renegade 510 00:30:36,959 --> 00:30:38,355 acting outside of the law. 511 00:30:38,356 --> 00:30:40,303 But the judge has to see through that. 512 00:31:05,959 --> 00:31:10,318 I have considered the evidence and oral submissions with care 513 00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:13,638 and I find, on the balance of probabilities, 514 00:31:13,639 --> 00:31:15,958 that the defendant's confession 515 00:31:15,959 --> 00:31:19,958 relating to the location of Sian O'Callaghan's body 516 00:31:19,959 --> 00:31:22,246 may have been obtained by oppression. 517 00:31:22,247 --> 00:31:24,959 [MUTTERING AND WHISPERING] 518 00:31:28,223 --> 00:31:31,502 With regard to Becky Godden-Edwards, 519 00:31:31,503 --> 00:31:35,958 as soon as the defendant began to talk about another offence, 520 00:31:35,959 --> 00:31:38,959 he should have been immediately re-arrested and cautioned. 521 00:31:40,743 --> 00:31:44,469 The urgent interview criteria had, at that point, expired. 522 00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:46,541 There should have been no further discussion 523 00:31:46,542 --> 00:31:49,958 and the defendant should have been taken to a police station. 524 00:31:49,959 --> 00:31:52,958 This whole series of events began 525 00:31:52,959 --> 00:31:55,958 with a deliberate decision by a senior officer 526 00:31:55,959 --> 00:31:57,663 to breach the PACE code. 527 00:31:57,959 --> 00:32:00,958 And whilst Detective Superintendent Fulcher 528 00:32:00,959 --> 00:32:02,958 was entitled to adopt an approach 529 00:32:02,959 --> 00:32:06,420 which would lead to the gathering of intelligence and information, 530 00:32:06,421 --> 00:32:10,343 what resulted was not, in my judgment, 531 00:32:10,344 --> 00:32:12,494 such as can fairly constitute 532 00:32:12,495 --> 00:32:15,623 admissible evidence in a criminal trial. 533 00:32:27,731 --> 00:32:31,731 Yeah, well, he's going to have to explain this at the trial. 534 00:32:32,731 --> 00:32:34,730 Are you all right? 535 00:32:34,731 --> 00:32:35,731 [DOOR OPENS] 536 00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:48,590 Er, good afternoon, everybody. 537 00:32:53,003 --> 00:32:56,482 So, the first thing to say is that we should still be OK 538 00:32:56,507 --> 00:32:58,506 with the case against him for Sian. 539 00:32:58,531 --> 00:33:00,086 We have the DNA evidence. 540 00:33:00,111 --> 00:33:02,470 Her blood in his car, his DNA on her body. 541 00:33:05,323 --> 00:33:06,990 And what about Becky? 542 00:33:10,990 --> 00:33:13,710 The confession evidence is all we had. 543 00:33:14,610 --> 00:33:17,249 And, er, I'm afraid, without that, 544 00:33:17,274 --> 00:33:19,434 we'll have to take her name off the indictment. 545 00:33:20,883 --> 00:33:22,042 What, you...? 546 00:33:22,067 --> 00:33:24,066 What, you mean he is not going to stand trial 547 00:33:24,091 --> 00:33:25,771 for murdering my daughter? 548 00:33:27,557 --> 00:33:28,917 I'm sorry. 549 00:33:29,650 --> 00:33:31,649 Well, this is Fulcher's fault! 550 00:33:32,157 --> 00:33:33,997 He's fucked up here, he has! 551 00:33:36,717 --> 00:33:38,357 How can this be fair? 552 00:33:39,263 --> 00:33:41,262 Everybody knows he did it. 553 00:33:41,604 --> 00:33:44,603 That judge knows it. The lawyer knows it. You know it. I know it. 554 00:33:44,604 --> 00:33:46,718 So how can that be right? 555 00:33:46,743 --> 00:33:49,190 Please, can you just tell me, how can this be right? 556 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,540 WOMAN REPORTER: Christopher Halliwell was brought to court 557 00:33:57,541 --> 00:33:59,000 under police protection. 558 00:33:59,001 --> 00:34:02,452 The 47-year-old mini cab driver is accused of killing Sian 559 00:34:02,453 --> 00:34:04,981 as she walked home alone from a girls' night out. 560 00:34:04,982 --> 00:34:07,307 - MAN: Come here, you! - [BANGING ON THE VAN] 561 00:34:07,308 --> 00:34:09,610 The police had asked them to stay calm 562 00:34:09,611 --> 00:34:11,868 and let the legal process take its course. 563 00:34:11,869 --> 00:34:13,201 [BANGING ON THE VAN] 564 00:34:13,202 --> 00:34:16,603 But the strength of feeling is etched on people's faces here. 565 00:34:16,604 --> 00:34:18,604 [CROWD SHOUTS ABUSE] 566 00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:53,423 [DOOR OPENS] 567 00:35:36,917 --> 00:35:39,277 Will the defendant please rise? 568 00:35:44,497 --> 00:35:49,496 Christopher John Halliwell, you are charged that, on March 19th, 2011, 569 00:35:49,521 --> 00:35:54,070 you did murder Sian O'Callaghan, contrary to common law. 570 00:35:54,350 --> 00:35:55,550 How do you plead? 571 00:36:03,217 --> 00:36:04,217 Guilty. 572 00:36:14,163 --> 00:36:15,362 Christopher John Halliwell, 573 00:36:15,387 --> 00:36:18,347 you have advanced little by way of mitigation. 574 00:36:20,604 --> 00:36:23,930 I accept, however, that your plea of guilty 575 00:36:23,955 --> 00:36:27,954 has avoided Sian's family having to endure a trial, 576 00:36:28,244 --> 00:36:30,243 which is an important factor. 577 00:36:30,268 --> 00:36:34,267 Having careful regard to the overall seriousness of this offence, 578 00:36:34,604 --> 00:36:37,603 the starting point will be 30 years. 579 00:36:37,604 --> 00:36:42,603 However, I will allow a discount of five years for your plea of guilty. 580 00:36:42,604 --> 00:36:45,538 I therefore rule that the minimum term that you shall serve 581 00:36:45,539 --> 00:36:47,604 will be 25 years. 582 00:36:49,877 --> 00:36:51,517 Take him down. 583 00:36:57,669 --> 00:36:59,230 All rise. 584 00:37:03,163 --> 00:37:05,522 WOMAN REPORTER: Christopher Halliwell could have been facing 585 00:37:05,547 --> 00:37:07,930 a jail term for murders of two women. 586 00:37:07,955 --> 00:37:09,954 Instead, he was given life for one 587 00:37:09,979 --> 00:37:12,659 and, it appears, escaped justice for another. 588 00:37:24,949 --> 00:37:27,949 So, I came to apologise to you both. 589 00:37:28,704 --> 00:37:31,063 You have got nothing to apologise for, Steve. 590 00:37:31,088 --> 00:37:32,887 Well... 591 00:37:32,912 --> 00:37:35,130 If you hadn't done what you did, we'd never have found Becky. 592 00:37:35,155 --> 00:37:36,775 Well... 593 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,410 ...not everyone sees it that way. 594 00:37:38,435 --> 00:37:39,990 What I can't understand 595 00:37:40,015 --> 00:37:44,013 is why nobody seems to be applying any common sense here. 596 00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:46,229 Why would that lawyer be fighting so hard 597 00:37:46,254 --> 00:37:47,613 to set free someone like Halliwell, 598 00:37:47,964 --> 00:37:50,603 who's admitted, himself, that he killed two young girls? 599 00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:54,603 Why put all that effort into defending someone who's guilty? 600 00:37:54,604 --> 00:37:56,603 Oh, I don't know, the principle, I guess. 601 00:37:56,604 --> 00:37:57,751 What principle? 602 00:37:57,752 --> 00:37:59,404 And what about justice? 603 00:37:59,405 --> 00:38:02,603 They say that Halliwell was oppressed by you. 604 00:38:02,604 --> 00:38:04,603 Well, I bet Becky and Sian were oppressed by him 605 00:38:04,604 --> 00:38:06,604 just before he killed them, but... 606 00:38:07,504 --> 00:38:09,504 ...that doesn't seem to matter, does it? 607 00:38:12,137 --> 00:38:14,136 Look, I've thought about this a lot and... 608 00:38:14,604 --> 00:38:18,676 ...if it's any consolation, I can honestly say, hand on heart, 609 00:38:18,677 --> 00:38:22,603 I wouldn't have done anything different. I don't see how I could. 610 00:38:22,604 --> 00:38:25,104 We're behind you one hundred percent, Steve. 611 00:38:25,105 --> 00:38:26,418 Mm. 612 00:38:26,443 --> 00:38:28,442 You brought my little girl home. 613 00:38:29,150 --> 00:38:31,270 We can't thank you enough for what you've done for us. 614 00:38:32,644 --> 00:38:33,910 Thank you. 615 00:38:34,604 --> 00:38:36,604 That does mean a lot to me. 616 00:38:44,197 --> 00:38:46,676 Contact the DVLA, madam, and they'll deal with it. 617 00:38:47,016 --> 00:38:48,536 OK, all right. Thank you. 618 00:38:51,604 --> 00:38:53,284 Yes, sir? 619 00:38:53,824 --> 00:38:56,824 I want to make a complaint about one of your police officers. 620 00:38:58,130 --> 00:38:59,329 His name... 621 00:38:59,804 --> 00:39:03,604 ...is Detective Superintendent Stephen Fulcher. 622 00:39:09,604 --> 00:39:12,603 Well, it's a complaint, Steve. A complaint's a complaint. 623 00:39:12,604 --> 00:39:14,864 And as the lead for Professional Standards for the force, 624 00:39:14,865 --> 00:39:16,064 I have to take it seriously. 625 00:39:16,065 --> 00:39:18,566 But half the stuff he's complaining about is nothing to do with me. 626 00:39:18,567 --> 00:39:20,770 I mean, not being invited to a press conference. 627 00:39:21,077 --> 00:39:24,076 Us calling her Becky Godden-Edwards, not just Godden. 628 00:39:24,101 --> 00:39:25,101 I had no say in that. 629 00:39:25,126 --> 00:39:28,124 And the thing about my actions preventing justice for Becky... 630 00:39:28,149 --> 00:39:30,508 We wouldn't have found Becky if it wasn't for my actions. 631 00:39:30,964 --> 00:39:33,603 Well, I'll have to make a decision on whether to refer it to the IPCC 632 00:39:33,604 --> 00:39:36,803 and whether it constitutes just misconduct or gross misconduct. 633 00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:39,190 - Really? - Mm. 634 00:39:43,016 --> 00:39:44,216 [HE SIGHS HEAVILY] 635 00:39:45,870 --> 00:39:47,029 - Ah. - Steve. 636 00:39:47,054 --> 00:39:48,054 Sir, I need a word. 637 00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:50,644 - OK. - Thanks. 638 00:40:15,790 --> 00:40:16,790 What is it? 639 00:40:17,604 --> 00:40:18,830 It's all clear. 640 00:40:19,904 --> 00:40:20,962 What is? 641 00:40:20,987 --> 00:40:22,550 I had a biopsy. 642 00:40:23,604 --> 00:40:26,070 - But you told me... - It's benign. 643 00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:35,390 Don't you ever go through something like that on your own again, hm? 644 00:40:43,604 --> 00:40:45,284 I just feel guilty. 645 00:40:46,750 --> 00:40:49,550 Guilty that it's me who's been given another chance. 646 00:40:54,497 --> 00:40:56,856 I'm sorry, sir, but it's bollocks. 647 00:40:56,881 --> 00:40:59,130 None of what he's complaining about makes any sense. 648 00:40:59,155 --> 00:41:01,154 And, for most of his points, I'm the wrong respondent. 649 00:41:01,179 --> 00:41:02,876 All right, leave it with me, Steve. 650 00:41:02,901 --> 00:41:05,202 - I'll have a quiet word with Mike. - Would you? 651 00:41:05,517 --> 00:41:07,830 I'd appreciate that. Thanks. 652 00:41:11,677 --> 00:41:13,477 Oh, hello. Come in. 653 00:41:14,757 --> 00:41:16,077 Thanks. 654 00:41:17,763 --> 00:41:20,190 As you know, the case against Halliwell 655 00:41:20,215 --> 00:41:22,430 for Becky's murder collapsed in court. 656 00:41:23,797 --> 00:41:27,276 But at least we were able to answer the mystery of her disappearance 657 00:41:27,604 --> 00:41:32,070 and end what must have been for you the terrible pain of not knowing. 658 00:41:32,604 --> 00:41:35,950 Yes. And, for that, we are very grateful to Steve Fulcher. 659 00:41:36,457 --> 00:41:39,456 The good news is that we were able to convict Halliwell 660 00:41:39,481 --> 00:41:40,687 for Sian's murder. 661 00:41:40,712 --> 00:41:45,290 And, as you know, he received a sentence of 25 years' imprisonment. 662 00:41:45,315 --> 00:41:47,514 Yeah, minus the time he's spent on remand. 663 00:41:47,804 --> 00:41:49,444 Yeah. 664 00:41:49,469 --> 00:41:52,468 Given that we do not have enough evidence 665 00:41:52,493 --> 00:41:54,812 to convict Halliwell for Becky's murder, 666 00:41:55,416 --> 00:41:59,416 Wiltshire Police Service hopes that you are, er, satisfied... 667 00:42:00,310 --> 00:42:02,309 ...that, were Halliwell ever to be released, 668 00:42:02,334 --> 00:42:04,693 he would be a very, very old man. 669 00:42:05,425 --> 00:42:07,350 You see, you don't understand me at all. 670 00:42:08,417 --> 00:42:11,416 Yes, Halliwell is going to be in prison for a very long time, 671 00:42:11,441 --> 00:42:13,748 but not so long that he won't ever get out. 672 00:42:13,773 --> 00:42:15,450 And Sian's family have got justice. 673 00:42:15,475 --> 00:42:18,270 And I'm pleased for them. Truly, I am. 674 00:42:18,295 --> 00:42:19,896 But where is Becky in the pecking order? 675 00:42:19,921 --> 00:42:21,891 She's right down at the bottom, where's she's always been. 676 00:42:21,916 --> 00:42:24,510 How dare you trample over my daughter? 677 00:42:26,290 --> 00:42:29,289 We're not gonna let go of this, not one bit. 678 00:42:29,604 --> 00:42:32,090 Not till that man is made to pay for what he did to my Becky. 679 00:42:32,115 --> 00:42:34,634 So you go back and you tell your bosses, no, I am not satisfied. 680 00:42:34,659 --> 00:42:36,139 Not at all. 681 00:42:50,050 --> 00:42:51,569 Steve... 682 00:42:51,863 --> 00:42:53,342 I had a word with Mike. 683 00:42:53,604 --> 00:42:57,444 Unfortunately, he's already referred it to the IPCC. 684 00:42:58,410 --> 00:43:00,409 They're going to charge you. 685 00:43:00,434 --> 00:43:02,434 Gross misconduct. 686 00:43:03,090 --> 00:43:04,290 Sorry. 687 00:43:07,803 --> 00:43:09,282 [DOOR CLOSES] 688 00:43:09,307 --> 00:43:10,466 Fuck... 689 00:43:10,491 --> 00:43:11,491 Fuck, fuck, fuck... 53391

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