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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,810 --> 00:00:14,690 It's the Roswell crash landing's biggest, boldest, and most disturbing 2 00:00:18,350 --> 00:00:23,310 Did the military carry out alien autopsies? 3 00:00:26,850 --> 00:00:32,710 Now, all the evidence will be tested, and the truth will be revealed. 4 00:00:36,230 --> 00:00:38,350 Roswell. The Perk. 5 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,440 and most controversial UFO conspiracy of all time. 6 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,180 The truth shrouded in the shadows. 7 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,960 Until now. 8 00:00:50,020 --> 00:00:50,999 How are we rolling? 9 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:57,100 For the first time ever, the infamous Roswell eyewitnesses will be put to the 10 00:00:57,100 --> 00:00:58,100 test. 11 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,200 What were you doing in Roswell, New Mexico in July of 1947? 12 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,440 The most advanced lie detection software ever made. 13 00:01:07,980 --> 00:01:10,160 will determine the ultimate truth. 14 00:01:10,420 --> 00:01:12,820 We've been able to explain them as hoaxes. 15 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,040 There were four bodies, not humans. 16 00:01:16,420 --> 00:01:23,380 Can you imagine having undeniable proof of extraterrestrial visitation? 17 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:28,840 How did he describe the craft? 18 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:36,100 Moment by moment, a timeline of events will emerge. 19 00:01:37,230 --> 00:01:42,710 Will the evidence aliens crash -landed on Earth appear with us? 20 00:01:42,930 --> 00:01:45,430 This is rewriting the history book. 21 00:01:46,690 --> 00:01:49,870 This is going to change us forever. 22 00:02:07,020 --> 00:02:12,820 As a law enforcement officer, the sheriff of Roswell, George Wilcox, 23 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:19,900 is one of the most reliable witnesses to the events that have taken place over 24 00:02:19,900 --> 00:02:21,380 the past nine days. 25 00:02:23,700 --> 00:02:28,200 In the eyes of the government, that makes him a threat. 26 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:44,140 He's not only seen the materials, but he's heard the story of a crash -flying 27 00:02:44,140 --> 00:02:45,140 saucer. 28 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:53,820 He's a loose end that needs to be tied up. His opinion needs to be adjusted 29 00:02:53,820 --> 00:02:56,320 and silenced and quickly. 30 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,340 Sheriff Wilcox has become a problem for the military. 31 00:03:04,940 --> 00:03:07,020 He's not within their chain of command. 32 00:03:07,550 --> 00:03:12,610 He doesn't report to them. He's a civilian that the people trust. They 33 00:03:12,610 --> 00:03:13,610 control him. 34 00:03:15,330 --> 00:03:19,130 Wilcox shares the story of what happens next with his family. 35 00:03:20,730 --> 00:03:27,570 In 1991, his granddaughter, Barbara Duggar, shares it with the world. 36 00:03:28,650 --> 00:03:32,510 When the incident happened, the military police came. 37 00:03:32,750 --> 00:03:34,550 They were on him like you wouldn't believe. 38 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:53,540 Did the government threaten the life of one of its own citizens if he told the 39 00:03:53,540 --> 00:03:54,540 truth? 40 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:02,560 Now, over seven decades on from the crash, the world's most advanced lie 41 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,420 detection software can answer this incendiary question. 42 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:11,100 Not only we would be killed, but they would get the rest of the family. 43 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,540 Our artificial intelligence looks at a video clip, analyzes the micro 44 00:04:16,540 --> 00:04:21,640 -expressions in the person's face, the intonation of his or her voice, and 45 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,940 predicts whether the person seen in the video is telling the truth or not. 46 00:04:27,180 --> 00:04:31,880 Will the advanced software reveal a government... prepared to go to horrific 47 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:38,380 lengths to silence a witness or a family myth never meant for the 48 00:04:38,380 --> 00:04:45,280 public's ears it's vital to know if this is true if it's true 49 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:51,040 it tells us how far the military was willing to go to cover this up 50 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:57,940 this is not just your average everyday rancher that they're threatening this 51 00:04:57,940 --> 00:05:03,690 is the most top and authoritative law enforcement official in the whole town. 52 00:05:04,510 --> 00:05:07,570 Was Barbara Duggar telling the truth? 53 00:05:08,330 --> 00:05:13,470 They told George that if we ever told anything about this incident, talked 54 00:05:13,470 --> 00:05:17,670 it in any way, that not only we would be killed, but they would get the rest of 55 00:05:17,670 --> 00:05:18,670 the family. 56 00:05:21,790 --> 00:05:24,510 The AI predicts she was. 57 00:05:24,930 --> 00:05:28,070 Sheriff Wilcox told her his life was threatened. 58 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,500 by U .S. government officials. 59 00:05:31,900 --> 00:05:37,560 It's not that I wanted this to be true because it's actually quite sad to think 60 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:43,480 that there came a time when our military threatened adults and children with 61 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,220 their very lives in graphical ways, terrifying them. 62 00:05:49,260 --> 00:05:55,480 The sheriff's story isn't the only one of government intimidation, and all of 63 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,620 them were dismissed as lies. 64 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:05,420 Everyone in the town of Roswell and the outlying ranches is suspect of 65 00:06:05,420 --> 00:06:11,720 knowing too much or having seen too much. And the military will resort to 66 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:18,440 of the most extreme measures in preventing them from telling or reliving 67 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,020 their experiences. 68 00:06:28,170 --> 00:06:34,670 Among those on the military's list to keep quiet is local firefighter Dan 69 00:06:38,110 --> 00:06:44,750 On July 7, Sheriff Wilcox sent Dwyer to crash site 2, where he witnesses the 70 00:06:44,750 --> 00:06:47,830 flying saucer and the bodies of aliens. 71 00:06:50,450 --> 00:06:53,390 He's chased off the site by members of the military. 72 00:06:54,540 --> 00:06:57,680 earning him a place on their list of targets. 73 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:02,580 Dan Dwyer is a key witness. 74 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:09,360 This is someone who saw not just debris, not just a flying saucer, if I can even 75 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,620 say that, but aliens too. He talked about little people. He talked about 76 00:07:14,620 --> 00:07:15,940 being already dead. 77 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:22,200 So this elevates the story to a new level. But also, he's... Pretty much the 78 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:28,080 first person who talks about the cover -up in terms of the military at the 79 00:07:28,220 --> 00:07:30,240 shutting everything down. 80 00:07:31,020 --> 00:07:35,940 Threat. Almost brutality. People being pushed away. 81 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:41,900 People being told, you didn't see anything. If you speak out, you're going 82 00:07:41,900 --> 00:07:42,900 prison. 83 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:49,720 And he talked in particular about a red -headed captain who he said was... 84 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:55,580 screaming orders at people, making all sorts of threats. He's really one of the 85 00:07:55,580 --> 00:07:57,280 villains of this piece. 86 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:07,040 The terrorizing actions taken against him three days later are witnessed by 87 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,740 12 -year -old daughter, Frankie Rowe. 88 00:08:13,580 --> 00:08:18,660 He had this club or stick or whatever it was, and he was beating it with his 89 00:08:18,660 --> 00:08:19,660 hand. 90 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,260 And he said, you know, this is a big desert out here. 91 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,180 We can just take you out in the middle of this desert and no one will ever find 92 00:08:30,180 --> 00:08:31,180 your body. 93 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:34,780 He said, you'll be nothing but bones and nobody will ever know what happened to 94 00:08:34,780 --> 00:08:35,780 you. 95 00:08:36,059 --> 00:08:42,440 How better to get the attention of a mother and father than to say, we will 96 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,500 your children. 97 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:51,140 It is a truly disturbing threat. 98 00:08:51,770 --> 00:08:53,090 But is it credible? 99 00:08:55,110 --> 00:09:01,810 Why would a child make up a story like that? It 100 00:09:01,810 --> 00:09:03,850 wouldn't be in her best interest. 101 00:09:04,290 --> 00:09:05,310 That's shocking. 102 00:09:05,990 --> 00:09:08,430 Threatening someone with their life? 103 00:09:08,690 --> 00:09:09,690 Come on. 104 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:15,790 That you'll be nothing but bones and nobody will ever know what happened to 105 00:09:19,470 --> 00:09:24,870 The AI suggests Roe's claim of death threats toward her father is false. 106 00:09:26,890 --> 00:09:30,270 He said, you'll be nothing but bones and nobody will ever know what happened to 107 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:31,270 you. 108 00:09:32,810 --> 00:09:36,710 So what does this mean for the other parts of Frankie Roe's testimony? 109 00:09:37,570 --> 00:09:41,490 Is she lying about the military even coming to her house? 110 00:09:42,090 --> 00:09:43,170 I know it happened. 111 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:46,690 I knew it was real. The threats were real. 112 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:51,900 She's not lying. 113 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,740 The military did come to the house to speak with her father. 114 00:09:58,620 --> 00:10:03,900 I mean, the memory can do funny things, particularly with younger people. We 115 00:10:03,900 --> 00:10:09,580 know this from psychology. When people have a traumatic experience or a 116 00:10:09,580 --> 00:10:12,220 experience, it can jumble your memories. 117 00:10:13,980 --> 00:10:19,640 Though Frankie Rose claims about her father's experience appear unreliable. 118 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:26,120 Those made by Roswell witness number one, Mack Brazel, are not. 119 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,740 July 10, 1947. 120 00:10:36,740 --> 00:10:41,560 Marks the rancher's third day in a military detention cell. 121 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,980 He has been detained, deprived of food and water. 122 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,540 They ask him the same questions. 123 00:10:50,060 --> 00:10:51,800 over and over again. 124 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:59,860 Their mission is to get him to totally retract the flying saucer story 125 00:10:59,860 --> 00:11:02,920 that he knows to be accurate. 126 00:11:06,180 --> 00:11:08,960 They had shut him up in a room and wouldn't let him out. 127 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:15,860 They had told him to shut up because it was important to our country and it was 128 00:11:15,860 --> 00:11:17,040 a patriotic thing to do. 129 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,640 He was very discouraged and upset about the way they had treated him. 130 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:34,540 No doubt the techniques used on Mack Brazel were learned by many of them 131 00:11:34,540 --> 00:11:36,400 during the previous war. 132 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:46,900 The only difference is they are dealing with one of their own, an American 133 00:11:46,900 --> 00:11:47,900 citizen. 134 00:11:58,830 --> 00:12:05,370 It's almost four days since Mac Brazel told reporter Frank Joyce and his boss, 135 00:12:05,510 --> 00:12:10,730 George Roberts, about the otherworldly debris he found on the ranch. 136 00:12:11,510 --> 00:12:13,890 The interview is in the can. 137 00:12:14,170 --> 00:12:20,470 These journalists have the scoop of the century, the story of a lifetime. 138 00:12:21,110 --> 00:12:25,230 And if it gets out there, it's game over for the government. 139 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:33,600 So the military now had to shut down the press because the story, if it gets 140 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:40,600 outside of Roswell, will shoot around the world as fast as they could get 141 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,479 it out. 142 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:46,860 Matt Brazel's interview will tell the whole world that a flying saucer did 143 00:12:46,860 --> 00:12:48,780 indeed crash in Roswell. 144 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,700 That is, unless somebody puts a stop to it. 145 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:16,380 If the reporters from PGFL broadcast that testimony of Mac 146 00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:21,280 Brazel, it would have been an immediate culture shock. 147 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,320 It would announce to the world that there was wreckage from a crash -flying 148 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,320 saucer. 149 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,760 Mac Brazel's interview makes it perfectly clear this was no weather 150 00:13:34,060 --> 00:13:39,200 He talks about this wreckage as being like... Nothing on earth. 151 00:13:39,700 --> 00:13:45,800 The station's co -owner, George Roberts, is discussing with reporter Frank Joyce 152 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:52,320 how to make best use of the interview when they claim to receive an 153 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:53,320 call. 154 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:06,420 Some person called it for wiping and said, we understand that you have 155 00:14:06,420 --> 00:14:07,420 some information. 156 00:14:07,630 --> 00:14:11,890 And we want to assure you that if you release it, it's very possible that your 157 00:14:11,890 --> 00:14:13,390 license could be in jeopardy. 158 00:14:14,390 --> 00:14:16,430 So you got the phone call from Washington? 159 00:14:16,690 --> 00:14:17,690 Yes, yes. 160 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:25,030 Suddenly, it's put on the line for him. 161 00:14:25,610 --> 00:14:28,910 The broadcasting license may be taken away. 162 00:14:31,470 --> 00:14:33,710 Well, that is his lifeblood. 163 00:14:33,950 --> 00:14:40,020 Without that... There is no job. Without that, it's game over. So suddenly, 164 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:45,400 everything is in play, and they realize we can't go ahead with this. 165 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:53,240 If George Roberts' statement is true, the government has turned to ever 166 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,720 more malicious tactics. 167 00:14:57,500 --> 00:15:03,860 This will effectively prove that, yes, there was government interference, and 168 00:15:03,860 --> 00:15:07,350 yes, They are trying to stop this story. 169 00:15:08,650 --> 00:15:13,110 We want to assure you that if you release it, it's very possible that your 170 00:15:13,110 --> 00:15:14,610 license could be in jeopardy. 171 00:15:18,170 --> 00:15:24,910 Robert's claim is predicted to be true, and the implications are serious. 172 00:15:25,310 --> 00:15:32,230 The idea that Washington would call and threaten a news source. 173 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,000 just because they would put out a story is unprecedented. 174 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:45,760 It just demonstrates, again, the level of extreme measures 175 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:52,440 that the military -slash -government took in containing and silencing the 176 00:15:54,040 --> 00:16:00,920 We don't know the identity of the mystery caller, but it was somebody very 177 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:01,920 up. 178 00:16:02,570 --> 00:16:09,390 It was somebody almost certainly in direct personal contact with President 179 00:16:09,390 --> 00:16:13,310 Truman and acting on the president's authority. 180 00:16:14,030 --> 00:16:16,250 This was not something done on a whim. 181 00:16:16,730 --> 00:16:19,010 They embargoed. Yes, precisely. 182 00:16:19,470 --> 00:16:21,470 But this was a total plan down. 183 00:16:22,090 --> 00:16:25,170 I would say so. It certainly was as far as we were concerned. 184 00:16:27,870 --> 00:16:29,370 To this day. 185 00:16:29,850 --> 00:16:34,050 Mack Brazel's interview recording has never been found. 186 00:16:35,070 --> 00:16:41,090 It remains one of the most sought -after missing pieces of the Roswell puzzle. 187 00:16:43,810 --> 00:16:49,430 It's the ultimate irony. They're on the threshold of the greatest story of all 188 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:54,850 time, and yet what's being threatened is there'll be no stories again from you 189 00:16:54,850 --> 00:16:55,850 ever. 190 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:12,700 With all he has seen, Brazel is still a danger for the government, so he remains 191 00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:15,900 under lock and key at Roswell Army Airfield. 192 00:17:17,339 --> 00:17:23,420 He is not going to be released from the bay until they are sure he is compliant. 193 00:17:26,140 --> 00:17:33,000 By that compliance, Mack is subjected to disturbing, mind -altering tactics. 194 00:17:35,820 --> 00:17:37,880 In an attempt to break him. 195 00:17:38,380 --> 00:17:44,820 Sleep deprivation is absolutely a recognized form of torture. 196 00:17:45,260 --> 00:17:51,220 And it's an extremely effective technique. What it does is it takes 197 00:17:51,220 --> 00:17:55,420 is fresh, strong -willed, determined. 198 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:02,120 And it flips back 180 degrees, and what you end up with is somebody confused, 199 00:18:02,540 --> 00:18:06,120 disorientated, and ultimately compliant. 200 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:18,040 With Mac Brazel at his weakest, he is told to make a phone call to the 201 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:24,080 same KGFL reporter, Frank Joyce, he'd already given the interview to. 202 00:18:29,450 --> 00:18:30,770 a phone call again. It's Brazil. 203 00:18:31,930 --> 00:18:36,470 And he is saying in a very clear voice, you know, very loud, 204 00:18:37,310 --> 00:18:44,230 well, look, this story is, you know, we haven't quite got this 205 00:18:44,230 --> 00:18:45,230 story right. 206 00:18:45,410 --> 00:18:48,390 They want to come over and talk to me. So I said, okay, come over to the 207 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:49,390 station. 208 00:18:52,050 --> 00:18:54,170 Mack offers to do a new interview. 209 00:18:54,530 --> 00:18:58,290 Will he stick to his story of seeing a crashed flying saucer? 210 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,540 To do so would require him to defy his captors. 211 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:17,540 Mack Brazel heads to local radio station KGFL to issue a new 212 00:19:17,540 --> 00:19:19,800 statement about what he saw. 213 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:26,340 But the man walking the street is far from the familiar neighbor. 214 00:19:26,940 --> 00:19:29,620 Marion Strickland had known for years. 215 00:19:30,140 --> 00:19:37,080 They saw Max being escorted by two army men, and I 216 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,620 don't know whether he had handcuffs on or not. 217 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:49,740 The whole neighborhood was scandalized that the army would treat people like 218 00:19:49,740 --> 00:19:50,740 that. 219 00:19:52,550 --> 00:19:59,430 There's Mac in between these two men, being escorted by them, dazed, tired, 220 00:19:59,910 --> 00:20:02,190 broken in his spirit. 221 00:20:03,790 --> 00:20:08,210 He's pale. He looks disheveled. He looks like he doesn't really understand 222 00:20:08,210 --> 00:20:09,210 what's going on. 223 00:20:11,450 --> 00:20:16,750 They saw Mac being escorted by two army men. 224 00:20:18,510 --> 00:20:24,110 This testimony is really important because if it's true, it establishes 225 00:20:24,130 --> 00:20:29,350 yes, Mack was in the custody of the military. And it goes along with what he 226 00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:31,730 discloses as this kind of inquisition. 227 00:20:32,150 --> 00:20:38,390 The whole neighborhood was scandalized that the Army would treat people like 228 00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:39,390 that. 229 00:20:42,370 --> 00:20:45,590 Marion's statement is predicted to be true. 230 00:20:46,510 --> 00:20:50,990 So this is great because we have a third -party witness who can now corroborate 231 00:20:50,990 --> 00:20:51,990 what Mack was saying. 232 00:20:52,190 --> 00:20:53,190 It's horrendous. 233 00:20:54,370 --> 00:20:58,250 But I'm still trying to figure out what is the reason for them showing off their 234 00:20:58,250 --> 00:20:59,590 capture to the entire town? 235 00:21:00,490 --> 00:21:05,090 Is this a warning to others? Has he been made an example, showcasing him and 236 00:21:05,090 --> 00:21:08,430 saying, hey, this is what's going to happen to you if you don't do what we 237 00:21:08,430 --> 00:21:09,430 you? 238 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:18,900 Mac Brazel makes his way to KGFL to speak with reporter Frank Joyce. 239 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:27,120 Finally, Mac is going to give a live on -air interview about the whole 240 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:28,120 incident. 241 00:21:31,020 --> 00:21:36,660 Joyce is thinking he's going to get the story of the century, that he's going to 242 00:21:36,660 --> 00:21:40,840 get it from the very person who started all this. 243 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:49,280 Is the number one witness to the Roswell crash finally ready to reveal to the 244 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,700 world what he saw? 245 00:21:51,780 --> 00:21:57,860 Will he reveal the truth about the incredible material that crashed in the 246 00:21:57,860 --> 00:21:58,860 desert? 247 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,900 As they go live with the interview, there's a sense that... 248 00:22:10,170 --> 00:22:12,990 Everybody in the town of Roswell is listening. 249 00:22:17,490 --> 00:22:24,490 What comes out of Mac's mouth is the government 250 00:22:24,490 --> 00:22:30,750 line that a weather balloon crashed on the ranch and nothing more. 251 00:22:35,290 --> 00:22:36,830 Frank's dreams are shattered. 252 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:45,220 I said, look, it's nothing at all like or it's completely different from the 253 00:22:45,220 --> 00:22:47,960 story you told me the other day. 254 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:55,060 Hearing the AI results on this will be fascinating because it will support 255 00:22:55,060 --> 00:23:00,080 Frank's claims that the government did force Mac to change the story. 256 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,380 Frank Joyce has always been a central figure for me in this story because 257 00:23:06,380 --> 00:23:11,810 he's... kind of the information gatherer and voice of the people. He knew 258 00:23:11,810 --> 00:23:12,810 something was up. 259 00:23:13,290 --> 00:23:20,090 It's nothing at all like or it's completely different from the story you 260 00:23:20,090 --> 00:23:21,090 the other day. 261 00:23:23,370 --> 00:23:28,250 The AI predicts that Frank Joyce's statement is true. 262 00:23:28,810 --> 00:23:35,070 I'm really happy to hear that this is true because Frank is one of those 263 00:23:35,070 --> 00:23:36,070 figures. 264 00:23:36,460 --> 00:23:41,660 in the Roswell event that we need to rely on. We need his credibility because 265 00:23:41,660 --> 00:23:46,140 this is one of the first people that Mack comes to. At this stage, it is 266 00:23:46,140 --> 00:23:48,440 clear that the fix is in. 267 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,900 Mack Brazel has effectively drunk the Kool -Aid. 268 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:02,440 The government is actively controlling the narrative and changing the story 269 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,700 about what happened here. 270 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:11,560 That is the appearance until Mac and Joyce share a private moment when the 271 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,560 goes off air. 272 00:24:14,420 --> 00:24:18,700 Once the interview is over and they're packing up, Frank leans over to Mac and 273 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:21,880 says, hey, what about the little green man that you told us about in the last 274 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:27,800 interview? And that's where he said, yeah, only they weren't green. 275 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,020 It indicates. 276 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,620 He's admitting that he did actually see bodies, and he's frustrated by the fact 277 00:24:37,620 --> 00:24:40,380 that the military won't let him acknowledge that. 278 00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:47,260 There is much at stake with Frank Joyce's testimony, even beyond the 279 00:24:47,260 --> 00:24:52,280 layperson, because he was a trusted media reporter. 280 00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:59,100 And that's where he said, yeah, only they weren't green. 281 00:25:02,190 --> 00:25:09,070 If the story turns out to be true, then it implies that we are not alone 282 00:25:09,070 --> 00:25:15,050 and that this did in fact take place at Roswell. And that's where he said, 283 00:25:15,310 --> 00:25:18,470 yeah, only they weren't green. 284 00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:23,550 This is also true. 285 00:25:24,110 --> 00:25:30,550 And that confirmation underlines that Matt Brazel believed sharing his truth 286 00:25:30,550 --> 00:25:31,550 publicly. 287 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,820 could cost him his life. 288 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:43,880 Mack Brazel still makes sure that Frank Joyce gets the final truth, 289 00:25:44,020 --> 00:25:48,040 that his word is still the last word. 290 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,240 Despite changing his story to the government's version of events, 291 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,160 Mack Brazel's ordeal is not over. 292 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:13,780 He's returned to his cell as the government's all -out blitz on covering 293 00:26:13,780 --> 00:26:15,220 truth continues. 294 00:26:28,460 --> 00:26:34,360 Soon after Matt Brazel's interview, a radio station out of El Paso, Texas, 295 00:26:34,890 --> 00:26:36,990 features General Roger Ramey. 296 00:26:38,410 --> 00:26:44,150 Ramey is the Army commander responsible for orchestrating the dismissal of the 297 00:26:44,150 --> 00:26:45,870 crashed flying saucer report. 298 00:26:46,450 --> 00:26:52,170 He brought out the initial weather balloon explanation, and now it's his 299 00:26:52,170 --> 00:26:56,050 wrap everything up, move it away like it never happened. 300 00:26:56,490 --> 00:27:02,850 He's interviewed on an El Paso radio program, and General Ramey 301 00:27:02,850 --> 00:27:08,180 reaffirms, The balloon explanation, explaining away Roswell. 302 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:16,620 To which the host then says, well, that doesn't explain all the flying saucer 303 00:27:16,620 --> 00:27:18,400 sightings throughout the country. 304 00:27:18,740 --> 00:27:25,280 Isn't it true that they've been sighted in every state throughout America? 305 00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:32,020 To which General Ramey then responds, true, except for Kansas. 306 00:27:32,780 --> 00:27:34,320 which is a dry state. 307 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,720 It's the first time the ridicule factor has been introduced. 308 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,700 So in other words, only people who overdrink see such things. 309 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,780 All of the government's efforts are paying off. 310 00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:01,600 A situation that has radio presenter Frank Joyce wondering what, if anything, 311 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,400 Can he do about it? 312 00:28:05,380 --> 00:28:08,020 Publicly, Frank Joyce isn't saying anything. 313 00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:10,620 But behind the scenes, he's a reporter. 314 00:28:10,860 --> 00:28:13,180 He's looking for facts. He's asking questions. 315 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,920 He's talking to people. 316 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:22,360 To assure Frank Joyce's silence, they don't threaten him any further. 317 00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:27,700 But they did what was so typical back at that time. 318 00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:31,440 The military places him. 319 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,200 in a mental hospital in Texas for a full year. 320 00:28:40,380 --> 00:28:47,060 We're talking about a time when they would resort to lobotomies, 321 00:28:47,060 --> 00:28:48,980 electric shock treatments. 322 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:56,560 It was to put a permanent blemish on his reputation and make sure that he was 323 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,140 forever discredited. 324 00:29:01,420 --> 00:29:08,100 With Joyce out of the picture, the assumption is the flying saucer incident 325 00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:12,060 officially dead just as fast as it was born. 326 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:18,300 The military effectively silences everyone involved. 327 00:29:18,980 --> 00:29:25,820 The military, the civilian, the press, and it all works. 328 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,740 They have been able to shut down. 329 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,060 The biggest story of the millennium. 330 00:29:33,380 --> 00:29:35,780 Or so they think. 331 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:53,320 After playing the pat for the government cover -up, intelligence officer Jesse 332 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,220 Marcel returns to Roswell. 333 00:29:57,130 --> 00:30:02,370 He's determined to get to the truth of what happened and clear his name. 334 00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:06,670 Jesse Marcel is in a bizarre situation. 335 00:30:07,290 --> 00:30:09,710 He is the one that went to the crash site. 336 00:30:09,930 --> 00:30:16,290 He's the one who got his hands on the debris and realized immediately this was 337 00:30:16,290 --> 00:30:17,710 something different. 338 00:30:18,390 --> 00:30:22,850 Possibly, almost probably, something extraterrestrial. 339 00:30:23,970 --> 00:30:25,630 And yet here he is. 340 00:30:26,510 --> 00:30:27,510 the fall guy. 341 00:30:28,810 --> 00:30:35,710 Adding insult to injury, when Marcel was in Texas, Captain Sheridan Cabot, 342 00:30:35,790 --> 00:30:41,630 his junior ranking officer, filed a report supporting the weather balloon 343 00:30:42,550 --> 00:30:48,330 Marcel tries to push back and says, hey, that's not what happened. I want you to 344 00:30:48,330 --> 00:30:50,190 rewrite that. Tell the true story. 345 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,720 To which Cabot responds, if you don't like it, take it up with Washington. 346 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,600 It's clear Major Marcel's hands are tied. 347 00:31:04,980 --> 00:31:11,960 But as his son recalls, the military's position is one he refused to agree 348 00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:16,860 There's still a feeling that there's something very unusual about this. There 349 00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:19,360 was not something in commonplace. 350 00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:28,040 Marcel's, to me, are at the center of everything with the Roswell story. 351 00:31:28,580 --> 00:31:35,480 And any indication we can get to substantiate the claims that have been 352 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:41,680 by the Marcel's just further adds to the credible, reliable testimony we have 353 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,720 related to this incident. 354 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:46,780 Your father didn't think it was a weather balloon or a radar target? 355 00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:48,820 Never did. 356 00:31:53,709 --> 00:31:59,630 Jesse Marcel Jr.'s claim about his father is predicted to be true. 357 00:32:00,570 --> 00:32:04,690 It's great to hear that this came back as true because it's just another thing 358 00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:07,790 in a consistent line of testimony from Jesse Marcel. 359 00:32:10,410 --> 00:32:11,890 Did he ever... 360 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:37,320 Three months after the Roswell crash, Marcel is transferred to Washington. 361 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,600 Jesse Marcel is given a promotion. 362 00:32:43,980 --> 00:32:50,760 He is assigned to be one of the intelligence specialists studying what 363 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:56,400 Soviets are doing in relation to development of their own nuclear 364 00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:05,140 He may be the fall guy, but he's somebody that they need in the system 365 00:33:05,140 --> 00:33:06,140 site. 366 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,460 Jesse is a strict military man. 367 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,720 He is a career soldier, and he has to go by what he is told and what his 368 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,100 superiors tell him to do. 369 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:26,040 Luckily for those searching for the truth, there is one vital witness 370 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,040 a military code. 371 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:45,400 Around 24 hours have passed since Roswell mortician Glenn Dennis visited 372 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,060 base, seeing strange activity. 373 00:33:53,020 --> 00:33:59,760 He's returning to Hangar 84 because he's concerned for a nurse friend who works 374 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:00,880 in the hospital wing. 375 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:08,620 Glenn Dennis' friend invited him to come back to the base to meet him for lunch. 376 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,760 She said she had something very important that she wanted to tell him. 377 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:20,719 This story is Glenn Dennis' most jaw -dropping claim for why there was a 378 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,719 cover -up. 379 00:34:21,739 --> 00:34:23,659 She looked like Beth Wendell. 380 00:34:24,659 --> 00:34:29,440 She said, you won't believe what happened. She said, I've never seen 381 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,440 good. 382 00:34:30,830 --> 00:34:33,889 I said, well, look, you're a nurse, and I said, any time you're in this 383 00:34:33,889 --> 00:34:35,570 business, you're going to see a lot of things. 384 00:34:35,850 --> 00:34:39,409 I said, well, I'll get used to it. She said, no, this is what it is. 385 00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:46,989 Then, the words that come out of her mouth next leave Dennis absolutely 386 00:34:47,570 --> 00:34:50,389 She said, this is something that no one's ever said. 387 00:34:56,620 --> 00:34:59,900 48 hours after being removed from Hangar 84, 388 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,440 Glenn Dennis returns to the airfield. 389 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,820 He's arrived to speak with a friend, a nurse in the hangar's hospital wing. 390 00:35:09,940 --> 00:35:15,120 It's a conversation Dennis recalls for the shocking revelation conspiracy 391 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,580 theorists have been trying to corroborate for almost 30 years. 392 00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:24,160 There wasn't anyone around us because we kind of had a table up on the side of 393 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,440 the office by ourselves. 394 00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:28,710 She was hoping that I could hear it. 395 00:35:31,050 --> 00:35:36,250 Glenn has been outspoken for decades about what he has seen. And, of course, 396 00:35:36,250 --> 00:35:41,730 testimony has been dismissed and discredited by the experts. 397 00:35:42,810 --> 00:35:48,990 She said, you have to give me a sacred oath that you will not ever mention my 398 00:35:48,990 --> 00:35:51,850 name or not. But she said, you can get me in a lot of trouble. 399 00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:55,390 But I'm going to tell you, you don't know where you got this human. 400 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,620 I said, what do you mean by a sacred oath? She said, I mean like cutting your 401 00:35:59,620 --> 00:36:00,399 arm off. 402 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:07,300 Glenn asks the nurse, he said, what was 403 00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,160 going on? What did you see? 404 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:15,000 But he said she was afraid to verbalize anything. She's looking around and 405 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,780 worried somebody's going to hear what she's telling him. 406 00:36:22,820 --> 00:36:23,820 What happened? 407 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,120 She was going into this other room to pick up some supplies. 408 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,960 This were the two doctors that were in there, supposedly doing a preliminary 409 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,140 autopsy on these bodies. 410 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:46,740 The doctor said, you're not going anywhere. We have to have some help. 411 00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:51,520 She said she never smelled anything so horrible in her life. 412 00:36:51,930 --> 00:36:56,590 It was the most gruesome, most horrible sight that she'd ever seen. 413 00:36:58,530 --> 00:37:02,430 The smell was almost devastating. 414 00:37:07,890 --> 00:37:14,850 Glenn's additional testimony from the 415 00:37:14,850 --> 00:37:21,350 nurse is that there was a terrible stench coming from the body. 416 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,940 And they were getting sick. They were going into the hallway and then 417 00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:30,020 to complete their duties, complete their work. 418 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:39,160 The testimony of this nurse is of great import because we have somebody who is 419 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,780 witness to an actual autopsy. So that means we have fatalities of a crash and 420 00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:47,900 descriptions of beings that are clearly not human. 421 00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:52,290 The government is in possession of extraterrestrial beings. 422 00:37:57,170 --> 00:38:01,610 This is something that no one's ever said. 423 00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:09,250 The alien autopsy at Roswell has always been one of the most contentious parts 424 00:38:09,250 --> 00:38:10,350 of the Roswell story. 425 00:38:11,330 --> 00:38:16,430 Reason for many skeptics to dismiss all of Glenn Dennis' testimony. 426 00:38:17,310 --> 00:38:24,290 as untrue of all the 427 00:38:24,290 --> 00:38:30,990 many many witnesses with stories to tell about Roswell his have been perhaps the 428 00:38:30,990 --> 00:38:37,090 ones that have been disbelieved most if that testament is absolutely truthful 429 00:38:37,090 --> 00:38:43,770 then we are in new territory here we are in this situation now where arguably 430 00:38:43,770 --> 00:38:50,490 the most extreme part of this whole tale is validated 431 00:38:50,490 --> 00:38:57,130 she said this is something that no one's ever said the two doctors 432 00:38:57,130 --> 00:39:03,350 that were in there supposedly doing a preliminary autopsy on these bodies she 433 00:39:03,350 --> 00:39:09,570 said there was three bodies two of them were very mangled can this testimony be 434 00:39:09,570 --> 00:39:12,410 trusted two of them were very mangled 435 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:19,800 According to the AI, Glenn Dennis is telling the truth. 436 00:39:20,460 --> 00:39:22,500 This is groundbreaking. 437 00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:25,720 It's going to take me a while to get my head around this. 438 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,380 It's fascinating. 439 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,480 She said it was three bodies. 440 00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:35,820 It's very difficult to find the words to react to right now. 441 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:43,960 We've got a validated testimony that there was an alien autopsy that took 442 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:50,940 place, that there were bodies examined. This is the first time and by 443 00:39:50,940 --> 00:39:55,880 far the most supported case with evidence that this actually occurred. 444 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:03,920 With this statement being true, does it mean his nightmare -inducing description 445 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,170 of what these creatures looked like is also true. 446 00:40:08,990 --> 00:40:13,430 She said, you won't believe this, but she said I made a diagram. 447 00:40:17,150 --> 00:40:24,130 Gerald Anderson, Elazar Benavidez, Happy 448 00:40:24,130 --> 00:40:30,270 Henderson, and a handful of other eyewitnesses to the Roswell crash 449 00:40:30,270 --> 00:40:33,490 getting a glimpse of actual aliens. 450 00:40:34,030 --> 00:40:35,370 They had four fingers. 451 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:43,940 But the mysterious nurse from Hangar 84 provides her friend Glenn Dennis with by 452 00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:46,840 far the most detailed description of them all. 453 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:52,760 A sketch based on an autopsy she was forced into taking part in. 454 00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:55,640 She drew me a diagram of the head. 455 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,320 She drew me a diagram of the arms and hands. 456 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:04,080 And it was on the back of a prescription pad where, you know, the nurses always 457 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,480 carry the prescription pad. 458 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:11,900 And she drew me a diagram of an R, because she said the anatomy from the 459 00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:14,940 shoulder to here was real short, and her arm was long here. 460 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,440 And there was only four fingers. 461 00:41:17,660 --> 00:41:19,940 There wasn't a thumb, only four fingers. 462 00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:23,900 Little long, very fragile little hands. 463 00:41:30,890 --> 00:41:35,510 And she said the head was very much larger than the body. It was out of 464 00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:37,790 proportion for the size of the body of the head. 465 00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:42,270 The eyes were very deeply set back and set in. 466 00:41:42,490 --> 00:41:47,730 And she said the amazing thing about the skulls that it wasn't like ours, that 467 00:41:47,730 --> 00:41:52,290 it was kind of like a newborn baby. They were kind of flexible that, you know, 468 00:41:52,310 --> 00:41:56,350 the doctors couldn't move, that it wasn't, you know, like a hard skull. 469 00:41:58,380 --> 00:42:04,720 If these claims about what the nerd saw are also true, it will verify the 470 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:08,700 descriptions of our alien visitors once and for all. 471 00:42:10,940 --> 00:42:15,520 I want to know what beings from another world look like. 472 00:42:17,180 --> 00:42:22,360 And she said the heads were very much larger than the body. It was out of 473 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,460 proportion for the size of the body's head. 474 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:33,820 Glendennis is predicted to be telling the truth, and it carries an enormous 475 00:42:33,820 --> 00:42:36,620 weight. This is huge. 476 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:44,520 We now know what beings from another world look like. 477 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:53,940 I think it was probably very dangerous of the nurse to share with Glendennis 478 00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:55,580 about what she had seen. 479 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:04,780 The nurse is talking and the government are there in force 480 00:43:04,780 --> 00:43:11,160 surveilling everything, watching, listening, fully across who's saying 481 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,160 who. 482 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:25,040 That government operation in Roswell will continue for months after the crash 483 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,860 and the wake from its activity. 484 00:43:28,490 --> 00:43:32,430 continues to reverberate through the area today. 485 00:43:33,550 --> 00:43:37,190 In Roswell, there's a level of distrust. 486 00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:39,930 People have been threatened. 487 00:43:40,210 --> 00:43:42,170 People have been silent. 488 00:43:42,830 --> 00:43:45,770 The media has been shut down. 489 00:43:47,710 --> 00:43:53,750 And there's this total level of paranoia of who is 490 00:43:53,750 --> 00:43:57,110 spying, who is informing. 491 00:43:57,950 --> 00:43:58,950 On who? 492 00:44:02,090 --> 00:44:06,470 When you've got a secret as big as Roswell, a secret doesn't stay a secret 493 00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:07,470 forever. 494 00:44:08,370 --> 00:44:11,250 Next, on Roswell, the final verdict. 495 00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:19,010 The greatest alien mystery has endured for over 70 years, despite the 496 00:44:19,010 --> 00:44:21,270 claiming the case is closed. 497 00:44:21,830 --> 00:44:26,770 Are we on the brink of full disclosure about visitors from outer space? 498 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:33,800 Only now, these new truths prove there is still more to reveal. 43264

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