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Come on in. Take a seat.

I like this top on you.

- Do you love it? - Amazing.

- Welcome. - Hi. How are you?

It's so good to see you all.

How are you?

Welcome. Good. Take a seat. How are you?

Take a seat.

Let's get down to it.

You guys look incredible.

It's so great to see you all.

How are we feeling? Are we excited? Are we... nervous?

Are we ready for this? I know I am ready for this.

- We're here. - Yeah. I love it.

- Welcome to The Ultimatum reunion. - So pretty.

I'm JoAnna Garcia Swisher, and we are here today to dish all the dirt

and find out what has been going on since we last saw everyone.

For those of you who gave the ultimatums,

you're sitting on this side,

and those who received the ultimatums, you are sitting on this side.

Oh...

- Now it all makes sense? Okay. - Yeah.

I'm so excited to hear how things are going,

'cause I saw a lot of growth throughout this process.

I feel like we've all grown in all of our own ways.

That's what I felt proud of, too,

just, like, watching everyone choose themselves.

And, like, for the ones that didn't know how to do that before,

and then we found out how to do it.

- I'm looking at you guys. - Yeah.

'Cause I super related to you guys' story.

And that was, like, the best thing.

It was just really intimate and... and special to know each one of you.

It's just everyone's development.

You really started speaking up.

I was so, like, into everyone.

I'm like, everyone's so raw, so genuine.

- It was so beautiful. I don't know. - Yeah.

I can say I feel happier now,

and so that made me, like, realize how much I've grown.

What was your funniest, favorite moment?

Did anything stand out?

My facial expressions made me laugh.

I didn't realize the cameras catch everything.

- And I'm looking crazy a lot of times. - Didn't miss any of it.

Weren't a lot of moments with Yoly and I,

but every time we were on together,

I was like, "This bitch!" Like, I love you.

Oh man.

So, who has tied the knot?

Has anyone found their way back together?

Any regrets?

Or has anyone gone their separate ways?

We're about to find out.

Rae, Lexi. So?

Tell me where you are. Tell me how the last year has been.

Um, the last year has been amazing.

Proposal, vacations...

We moved back to California, um, a few months ago.

And I mean, I feel like just the other week

we were talking about all the great memories we've had.

And it's just been... It's just been such a time.

It wholeheartedly has been the best year of my life.

Yeah. Like, this past year has been amazing, really.

I think for me all the what-ifs of, like, being at The Ultimatum

and making a decision to, like...

"Am I gonna be with Lexi?"

"Do I wanna be with Lexi? Am I happy with myself?"

You know, the fucking what-ifs never end,

and I'm a chronic over-thinker like that.

But once I kinda got out of that limbo

and said, like, "Yes, I choose you. You are my 'hell yeah, '"

it just got easier.

Yeah.

The white noise and the possibilities just kind of faded away,

and we got to focus on, like, what we want, moving forward.

We got a bunch of new furniture. That made me cry too.

We've been really quiet about it, just, like, enjoying being engaged.

Although I'm, like, wholeheartedly... Don't take this for face value,

but if there was, like, a freaking whatever, officiant here, like...

I am actually an ordained minister.

- Rae will kill me. - Just saying...

I will murder her.

- Rae knows if it was today... - I'm just saying.

- My mom's, like, set on a specific date. - Okay.

So we didn't have much of a say.

So we know the date, but I don't know

where any of it's happening, but...

- She'll figure it out for you. - The planning hopefully will begin.

By "begin," I mean I want nothing to do with it.

- I want my mom to do everything. - I was the same way.

- Don't even wanna look at it. Yeah. - I just showed up.

Well, you both were just beaming with happiness,

and I think I speak for everyone at home

that we were all hoping for a happy ending to your love story.

But we can't talk about Lexi and Rae without talking about Fingergate.

- Oh my God. - Oh gosh.

Should we, uh... ... turn the lights off?

- Oh! - Oh.

A little closer.

Keep doing that. That felt good.

Is there a reason why you fucked Rae?

I didn't fuck Rae.

Oh, I'm sorry. Rae fucked you.

- No. No, it's... - And there was penetration.

- What's funny? - It's not funny at all.

You end up being inside of the person I came here with and that I love.

- You don't fuck... - Friends.

You don't fuck friends like that.

Um, I can respect there was, like, a degree of vulgarity,

and in the moment, I probably was fixated on the, like...

"Did they have sex? Did they fool around? What does that mean?"

And also, like, for queer people, in general, that's not a defined term.

What you may define as sex I may not define as sex,

versus what they define as sex.

Like, it's so vague.

And so intimacy, in general, for me, in that sense,

because we are queer, and 'cause sex is different,

I was like, "Really, you didn't have sex?

She's doing this to this person."

"That's sex to me."

So yeah, I apologize for the vulgarity of it.

I have to have a different version of thought

because we're all having different sex.

I felt like the worst person in the world for a long time.

Like, it still gets me worked up to think, like...

... to feel like I hurt someone that I love.

I came here to figure out if I wanted to be with her,

and I made the process

like 20 times harder on both of us.

I mean, regardless of whether we had had discussions

about being okay with doing whatever.

- You can't promise you're gonna be okay. - Yeah.

At the end of the day, you don't know how you'll feel until it happens,

and you have to feel it.

Vanessa, I have to ask, looking back at the strife,

how do you feel?

Um, I... I think I've always felt the same.

I think we shared the sentiment

that we weren't in love with each other.

We weren't romantically involved.

We both ended up doing something,

and it wasn't necessary. We knew.

Yeah.

It wasn't something that we, like,

needed to do to help us on our journey.

And I felt that then. So did Rae.

And I think we both feel the same way about it.

We recognize it didn't need to happen. It didn't help us.

It didn't totally seem like that.

It felt very like you were going through it

and, like, having an emotional situation,

and you were like, "We fucked. It was fun. Haha! We did funny things."

I agree. I was definitely...

I recognized immediately Rae's heaviness on it,

and that was me trying to make light of it.

I think a great thing for me that came from reflecting on this...

Such a crutch for me is being

the bold person, the funny person,

trying to make a joke out of everything.

I've done that my whole life. And I never realized that.

And I don't need to do that.

It's not always appropriate, and it doesn't come out well.

And I don't want to do that anymore,

so that's been my resolution for this year,

is try to be more serious and calm.

I'm sorry I affected you, and I don't expect you to be my friend.

And I will stay out of your life,

as I, hopefully, I feel like you can recognize I have.

And I just... I hope you can, I don't...

Forget about me, I guess.

No, totally. Totally forgotten. I mean, listen, like, all good.

We're living our life, and you're not in it, and that's that.

Here we are. Like, that's all there is to say, really.

- Yeah. - What do the rest of you think?

I know y'all went through it, and y'all came out the other side.

But I really see it with you two,

and I love you both, and it's something to aspire to.

Thanks.

They really work hard for each other, and I love that.

Like, there's sheer vulnerability between the two of them.

I've always been a fan of them working out

and treating each other good.

I have individual relationships.

I obviously speak to Lexi a whole lot more,

but that's not out of any love lost for Rae.

I love Rae to death. I text her, you know?

So I'm happy.

I better be the flower girl at their wedding, just to be clear.

So what's next for Lexi and Rae?

We're gonna start splitting our time between here and the East Coast

to have a little bit of closeness to my family and to hers.

I want kids.

Like, I think we have a plan of exactly how we want to have kids,

and now we're investing towards that.

Mm-hmm.

Think we probably need to get married first.

Yeah.

I dunno if we're in a rush for kids, but we know the plan.

- Exciting time. - Yeah.

Very fresh.

I can't wait for my wedding invitation.

While one of our couples prepares to walk down the aisle,

Xander, you decided to walk away from Vanessa

after spending four years together.

And Vanessa, that was an ending that you never saw coming.

So where are you and Xander now, in all of this?

You're not communicating a ton? Communicating?

At... At all.

Like, uh... I mean, yeah, it's nice to see you.

But...

No. Uh, no, we don't talk.

It was a real big struggle for me

for the first few months after the experience.

I still wanted you, obviously, you know.

I felt there was a chance we'd rekindle and fix things.

Then it became clear that wasn't going to happen,

and we really did just kind of stop talking.

But I love you as a friend,

and I think it took this experience to realize...

... we shouldn't be together.

It's, like... sad, but...

but, like, it's good because now we can

work on who we are together without romance.

And I think maybe that's what we were supposed to do.

I think we were supposed to do exactly what we just did.

I felt like over, like, the time

of this little experiment thing,

I realized I was putting so much focus and so much attention

on, like, the outcome

and getting married and having the family and, like...

But then what?

I don't know. Something in me was like,

"You left that experiment saying that you were gonna choose yourself

and you were gonna learn how to love yourself,"

and, like, I feel like it was just so obvious

watching myself during those episodes

that I struggled so deeply with that.

And I think by the point that maybe I was grieving,

we weren't even talking.

So she probably would have no idea.

And that's okay.

There's a lot of emotion here.

Is there any hope that you might come back,

Vanessa and Xander?

My emotion comes from knowing that's a no.

I think you know it too.

But, like, I'm... I love you so much,

and I'm so willing to accept whoever you are

and whatever growth you've had.

Like, I was scared to see Xander, but the second I see her,

I'm like, "I fucking love that girl."

And, so...

Like, I'll happily accept whatever our next chapter is.

How does that make you feel?

I think it's something that I was really nervous

that I was never gonna hear Vanessa say, to be honest.

I knew that I didn't want her out of my life,

but I knew I was gonna be a different person.

I knew that, once I started this journey, that I was gonna change.

I think you're right. I feel like romantically,

there's been too many things that have happened.

You deserve someone who gives you their all.

And I wasn't doing that.

But, like...

... I'll never look back and be mad that I dated you.

You're my fucking buddy, you know?

Xander?

Vanessa is my best friend. It...

It was hard not having her for...

to talk to for a while.

So I'm happy to feel like I can get my friend back.

I know this isn't easy, and a lot of life has happened,

so thank you for that.

Not that I'm ending this at all.

Just so you know, this is not over. I felt like I needed to say that.

So, Mal.

I felt it.

This is good. We should lead this way.

Your love for Yoly never wavered.

But who held Yoly's heart? It kept us guessing until the very end.

Where was your headspace?

Upon leaving the experience, it was very much like,

"Let me work this out with Mal. Mal is who I chose."

"Mal's who I want to see things through with. It's Mal."

So where are you now?

Um...

Happily broken up.

Happily broken up?

Mm-hmm.

And how quickly after you left this experience

did you feel like things were turning in that direction?

Um...

Two weeks.

Maybe for you, not necessarily for me, but...

Sure.

Do you remember going on vacation, and then you got a one-way home

and telling me you were not planning on staying?

You were moving out.

That was within two weeks.

Of us getting back?

Yes.

Okay.

I mean... Okay.

We can see throughout The Ultimatum

that your history of being honest doesn't track.

So it wasn't two weeks after being back.

Okay.

My fear was that, as soon as the camera stopped filming,

Mal was gonna go back to her...

To our ways that I know of.

So... that happened.

Um, we spent some time apart.

And in that time apart, she was like,

"I... This is not gonna work out."

And I didn't fight back.

And that was kind of it for...

Until she moved out.

Upon you going back home for the month and a half

and having the time apart, we were broken up.

- You weren't engaged any longer? - No.

- So you both agree on that? - Mm-hmm.

I think, to Yoly's point,

the way that we handle conflict has historically been trash.

Um, and that came up again.

I felt like this was not the relationship

I wanted to continue being in.

It just felt like handling conflict that way is not sustainable.

And I'm a little triggered 'cause what I watched

was different than what we've talked about.

And what's hard is watching this...

seeing dishonesty...

What was dishonest?

In the middle of your relationship, which was only 21 days...

Wasn't that long, so "middle," I think, is valid...

You were DMing me,

telling me, "Don't worry about it with Xander. I love you."

- Mm-hmm. - And, like, you know what you're choosing.

Unprovoked, 'cause I didn't ask for that reassurance.

Clearly, that was not the case.

- What was triggering? - At the party... Lemme finish.

And then at the party when you come to me,

and you asked me and I trust you,

and I'm like, "My partner wants to clear things up,

have closure talks, whatever the hell it is. Go do that."

"I don't care. Do what you gotta do."

I'm thinking this is a closure talk,

maybe there's questions about things.

"How are you doing?"

Not, hey, at a party, playing in my face,

saying, "I love you. I miss you so much."

Holding hands, doing all the things.

That's wild as fuck.

Hella disrespectful.

- It is. - I would've never did you like that.

I do agree. I did not like... I...

Watching it, I was like, "Oh, that's uncomfortable."

- That's degrading. I deserve better. - It's disrespectful. You do.

So...

I do think that I did not realize we held hands as long as we did.

- I was almost a little... - "As long as we did" is wild...

That's a wild statement, bro.

I'm just saying I was not okay with it. I apologize. That was not cool.

Definitely, that... that's not cool.

The tough part about this...

It's less about watching her with another person.

The tough part about it is, I reflect on the whole fucking thing,

and I'm like, "I've known this person

for five years in close circle to me,

and now I'm looking at our entire relationship

through a different lens."

And you feel like a dangerous stranger to me.

And that is hurtful.

That really sucks, because I had your back so hard,

and all you did was made a complete fool of me.

I look like an ass on television.

I've been... I was telling you the way I felt about Xander.

I don't see where I lied in that.

It's not comfortable. I'm not proud of it.

I kind of look like I'm an ad for polyamory.

I'm not trying to be.

The great part about you

is that you inadvertently showed everybody on TV

how great of a partner I am and how great of a mother I will be.

I get why you may not be, um... cool right now.

It's... I... I mean, it was hard to watch.

My animosity is less about me and Yoly being partners and lovers

and more about my... my friend.

Like, my fucking friend.

And are you still friends now? Are you... ?

I mean, sure. I thought we were, yeah. I don't lie to my friends.

But, yes, I could imagine...

She's family to me,

and sometimes there are cousins that you can't stand very much.

And, right now, in this moment,

after watching that, you are definitely that cousin.

It must have been hard.

Everyone kept asking me, am I nervous about seeing anyone?

Like, I don't give a fuck. I'm excited about seeing

half... most of you.

The only thing...

I know it's gonna be rough to see, like, me and Xander like, all...

and I know how I am when I'm in lovey-dovey,

and that's gonna be tough.

I was like, "I don't want to hurt Mal again."

Watching you guys be lovey-dovey is not hard.

It's easy to watch people in love. That's a beautiful thing.

Whatever you guys shared is absolutely palpable,

and I even found myself, like...

That is very cute. Like, I think it's cute.

For what we saw and how palpable it was,

you almost deserve to try.

You guys... You did try.

- Right? - I mean, outside in the wild.

They did.

- You couldn't wait to bring that up. - What? You tried in the wild?

Well, I would love to know about that.

Did you?

If we're being really honest, we stayed in communication some,

and we saw each other while we were at Coachella.

What happened?

- Nothing. We just listened to music. - I mean, all we saw...

- Right. We saw Megan Thee Stallion. - I found...

Were you excited to see each other?

Yeah, it was nervous, right?

- Like, "Oh shit." - Yeah.

I mean, yeah, 'cause, like, I mean, I knew you

during that specific time in my life, you know? Like...

Months later?

- Right. So it was months later, yeah. - Yeah, a while. A while.

So there's nothing more to Coachella?

It was just a hang?

Yeah.

Was that your big reveal, Vanessa?

- Um... - I know you guys didn't stop talking.

No, when Xander and I returned to Hawaii,

when we were trying to make it work,

I was surprised when, a few weeks in, I did find out

that her and Yoly were planning a trip to Hawaii.

- It was jarring. - To Hawaii?

Yeah.

Was I going to Hawaii?

Can you confirm that, Xander?

We had mentioned that you were gonna try and come out at some point.

Oh, okay. Okay.

- 'Cause we had talked about it. - Yeah, okay.

You didn't know about the Hawaii trip, did you?

No.

She said she needed to stop talking to Xander.

Didn't know that there was actual plans of that or looking up flights.

I had a great time with Xander.

I was hoping to reconnect and try in any way possible.

I was thinking about Yoly.

We had, you know, all these memories

over, like, the three weeks that felt like months.

- We were gonna support each other. - What happened?

We were in each other's journey for a little bit,

and now we're back to, like, doing our own stuff.

I knew there was something going on inside me that was like,

- "You need to figure your shit out." - Mm-hmm.

"You got a lot going on.

You don't need to be putting it all over the place,"

even though that's what I did.

But I feel like I really needed to commit to myself

and, like, figure out how to change the things I wanted to

so I could show up better for myself and for any partner that I have.

Xander, parenthood was a big topic of conversation for you.

You were super ready.

It's definitely a big priority.

I just want to make sure that I feel like that I'm able to provide.

I feel like it's cool, right? That, like...

I feel like queer people are able to, like...

We plan a lot. Like, we have to.

So it changes things.

Um, so I have to make sure I've got all my stuff squared away first.

- Ducks in a row. - Yeah.

Yoly, where are you at with parenthood?

Um...

Ooh, tears.

Um, I... Ooh.

Sorry.

Um, I thought I would be a parent with Mal.

And...

I don't want to rush and find a partner,

so I can have someone to have a kid with. Like...

What is more important to me is to have,

like, a viable, sustainable, healthy, supportive relationship.

I'm realizing that...

Um...

motherhood might not be a thing for me.

I didn't think I'd be this sad about it.

But I'm just like, "Shit, I wanted to be a mother, but... "

It's okay. I mean, I can... You know, I have my dog.

There's so many ways you can be a mother,

but I don't know what that looks like right now, so...

I don't... I don't know.

But I will babysit any one of y'all's.

Getting comfortable with what it looks like to not have my own child,

but to still be a mother in every other concept that there is.

You're prioritizing yourself,

and I think that will pay off in dividends.

I think you're gonna have everything you want.

I love that. Thank you for the vote of confidence.

- Have a little faith. - Thank you.

Yeah.

Speaking of parenthood, there was a lot of love on the show,

but there was also a lot of puppy love.

I'm talking about fur babies.

Let's take a look.

Oh God.

Marge for the cock-block.

Margaux's a dog, right? But that's my child, my baby.

- Oh... - Hi.

You little big booty girl.

If Margaux doesn't like you, I cannot fuck with you.

Good girl!

You ready for bed?

Go night-night?

You're spoiled. We don't know how to unspoil you.

Tiff and I have discussed having children,

and we decided that, um, we'll take another dog,

but not have another baby.

Let me give her some sweet potato fries too.

Tiff has cooked for Shylo a handful of times,

and this was the first time, um, after two weeks

that Tiff has made me anything.

Got chicken, turkey burger, sweet potatoes.

Yeah?

I support my baby.

How is Shylo?

Shylo is doing good now.

She, um, had to get, like, emergency surgery.

Um, I spent all Christmas day,

um, in the hospital, uh, for her.

When did Shylo have surgery?

Um...

December 21st to December 25th?

Ish, yeah, give or take.

I dunno. I just want to get the dates correct

so that I have my facts straight.

What do you mean by, you wanna make sure you have your facts straight?

On Christmas Eve, my sister and my family received, like,

messages and phone calls from Tiff that Shylo was not gonna make it,

and that... that they needed to see...

- I didn't say Shylo wasn't gonna make it. - I'm speaking now.

Yeah, sure.

That, like, was very intrusive.

We're not on speaking terms.

You're not allowed in my life anymore, so...

Wait. Oops, sorry.

Last time I saw you, you were getting engaged on the beach.

So I take it you're no longer together.

- What happened? - We got engaged, like you know.

Then we decided to move in together,

but there was no plans for the future.

We can never talk about a wedding.

There wasn't anything that I could see in the future with Tiff.

It was like the cloud came back. Like there was no clarity.

It felt like, "Well, what did I do all this for

if we're right back into the same thing

where we're not serious about our future?"

I asked, "Can we have a bank account together?"

"Can we do these things together?"

Those things never got done.

"And can you get a job?" That was another topic.

Uh, I had one.

There were so many problems. There were so many... whys.

There was a lot of things that happened

that are really hard to talk about.

So I had to make a decision.

It was one of the hardest decisions that I've ever made, ever.

To... leave Tiff.

Real quick. I'm a little confused.

How were you... the one that left?

Are you talking about physically-left-the-premise left?

Tiff, if you want to take the show

and tell everyone you broke up with me,

then that's fine.

It really doesn't matter.

Then why go out of your way to say you left?

- Because I left the home, Tiff. - Left the home. Okay.

I parted physically from the home.

Oh. Okay.

Well, what's your perspective?

The stuff that we went through post-show was happening on show.

I just feel like we had a overall unhealthy relationship

that was trying our best.

That's the way I saw it.

So why take the next step

if you feel that you had an unhealthy relationship?

Did I feel like we were starting to find ways to communicate

where we felt like, at one point, we were on the same side,

on the same team and trusted each other? I did.

You know?

Obviously it changed.

But I'm asking you, why move in with me, when you know I have a child?

Why move in with me when you weren't financially ready?

Um, I could ask you the same thing. Why would you?

- I believed in you. - I believed in you.

I believed you were gonna be committed.

I didn't realize how you were very immature emotionally.

You know, I had to take a lot of financial responsibility.

- How? - I felt financially taken advantage of...

How? I never borrowed money from you. What are you even talking about?

I was asked to split the rent of my home

into three because I have a child.

- What the fuck? Oh my God. - I enabled you.

Mildred...

Yes, Tiff.

I didn't tell you to split the rent in three.

I'm sorry. I'm a little naive. I asked.

- As far as splitting the rent in three... - You didn't ask me.

- I asked you... No, I did not tell you. - You told me.

I did not tell you.

No. I did not tell you to do that.

So how did it come up?

- Hmm? - How did it come up?

If you didn't tell her. I'm just curious.

If you didn't tell her to split it, how'd it come up?

I didn't ask you to do it. I didn't tell you to do it.

To be honest, I don't remember that exact conversation.

I don't remember how it started, so I can't...

You don't remember, but it happened, and it was hurtful for me.

Okay.

So, what was the turning point? What was the moment it went sideways?

Obviously, as you all know, we had a very tumultuous relationship.

It was a roller coaster.

There was a lot of ups and downs, you know...

It's really hard for me to say. You know, um, I was arrested.

I threw a picture frame, and I broke it,

and the glass shattered everywhere.

I threw a pet gate at you, and it was really heavy.

At the same time, I was grabbing all of your clothes from the closet

and throwing them down stairs, because I wanted you to leave my home...

You did throw the dog gate? Police statement says you took it back.

- She just said she did. - Let me finish. I need to finish.

- Okay? - Mm-hm.

You don't have that power over me anymore.

- Yeah, I threw something at you. - Okay.

You called the police at me.

And they arrested me in my home. They took my engagement ring off.

I never put it back on.

I... I'm not proud of what I did, but there was a lot of fighting.

There was always screaming, yelling, punching the walls.

Good God.

Tiff called me a trash mom, degraded me.

There was a lot of problems when it came to my son,

and I did not feel accepted as a mother.

- What do you mean by that? - I come with a package.

My son will always be first.

I will always be a mother first.

Yeah, I did have a problem with connecting with your son, absolutely.

I did. I tried, but, honestly...

There was a lot of sneaking around.

You changed the passcode on your phone.

You decided to open a dating app and bring women to the house,

not come home.

- When did I bring a woman to the house? - Like, when...

- We were broken up. - We were, but I was paying rent.

My things were there.

If we're broken up, am I allowed to be on a dating app?

Absolutely.

- No one's judging you for it. - You just did.

I'm judging you for having me

take care of some bills and having my things...

- What bills did you... - ... in the home we created,

while you're out there, you know, sleeping around.

There was a week where I got home

at three in the morning. And guess what?

Tiff wasn't home. That's where I found eyeliner. I don't wear eyeliner.

- What makeup are you talk... - I don't own eyeliner.

I don't know who was in my house.

And there was just all these, like, sex board games.

- Mildred. - That was very painful for me.

I got enough of an imagination.

I don't need no fucking board game. What're you talking about?

I actually have them. They came in the mail.

- The leasing office gave them to me. - Sure.

- What board games? - So I will send you pictures.

- You're screaming to everyone. - Send pictures?

- What board game is it called? - Asking what board games.

I'll send them.

- Sex board game? - I'm glad you're...

You're literally here just fucking...

straight-up fucking gaslighting me.

- Are you fucking kidding? - I have them.

I don't care what it's called. What I care about is...

What are you...

... you did that to me while I was living with you.

That's what I care about.

- Mildred. - The betrayal.

This is the way I look at everything...

I hope you let me talk. Every time you talk it makes this ear...

Like, it just hurts my ear.

Shit.

Tiff.

I'm not taking sides here,

but just Tiff saying the word "gaslighting,"

um, it just brought back a lot of my experience with, um, Mildred.

I just feel like Tiff was just put on blast right now

because there was all the blame put on one person,

and it didn't feel right to me.

I wanna talk to Tiff.

Do you need water? Do you need anything?

- It's a lot. - Yeah, it is a lot.

I'm literally questioning my fucking reality...

Like, what is this? Like, I'm literally being, like, gaslit.

Not on everything, but a lie.

Like, I didn't...

I have no problem admitting where I went wrong,

but I will speak up on some things that did not happen.

I did have a rough... Like, it was hard to connect to her son.

But there's also certain things that...

Like, I have so much fucking proof...

What? Do you want bank statements of me paying my fucking rent?

- Where's all this stuff? - You don't have to.

- Why do I constantly feel like I need to... - Hey.

- You don't... Yeah. - What the fuck, dude?

You don't need to prove anything to her, okay?

Like, you're not...

- That's what I've been doing. - I know. I know.

And now you're done, right?

Like, now this is your realization, and enough's enough. Right?

I'm not going back in to talk. I'm not going back in.

What's honestly best for me is to never see her fucking face again.

- No, I hear it. - Like, it's that simple. Like, I...

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

- Like, I... - Yeah.

- I want to move on, in that sense. - Yeah.

We should walk to the studio, even if you go in or not,

'cause you're gonna get your death of cold.

- Thank you, Sam. - Yeah.

Hey, Sam. How are you feeling?

It's cold outside.

Well, we're glad you're back.

Can I ask, is Tiff coming back?

No.

- How's Tiff doing? - As good as Tiff can be doing right now.

Mildred, where are you in your healing process with all of this?

It's just been really hard to just rebuild everything.

But I'm doing really good.

And I'm not happy I don't have Tiff. Obviously, it's a loss.

But I'm happy that I'm happy, genuinely.

And are you dating or open to that?

I know that I eventually will get there because I love love.

And I believe in love.

So I know that day is gonna come.

It's just not here yet.

I love that.

- I love that for you. - Thank you.

I want to move on to Sam and Aussie.

How are you?

Where are you?

Have you gotten something other than a rock for an engagement ring?

I laughed so hard when I saw that.

And your face was so great. You were like...

I was hoping for some laugh track in the background, you know?

- You got it from me. - Good shit.

- It was crickets. - I laughed.

It was such a long pause. After "rock," I was like, "Okay... "

In real life, it was, like, five times longer than what...

- Oh my God! - It really was.

- But it worked out. - But it worked out.

You left engaged.

So are you wedding planning? Are you married?

- Where are you in you relationship? - We're not married yet.

We're kind of waiting.

It was kinda like, "How do we explain this to people?"

Like, it's just so awkward. Do we make up a story?

Like, I don't know.

You don't have pictures. You're not putting it on social media.

- It's, like, just weird. - It was really funny.

We were watching TV on the couch, and I was like,

"So you know that being engaged means you get married after, right?"

It's a process.

Like a deer in the headlights.

- Like, Aussie didn't make the connection. - "Oh, wait a minute... "

So what's new in your life?

Um, I have to say there's been a lot of, uh, self-discovery.

I have a hard time figuring out who I am,

in terms of, like, my relationship

from what I experienced in... You know, when I was younger.

So building that "What do I want?"

That's been my journey right now.

A lot of your struggles were about communication.

Do you feel like your communication has gotten stronger?

- Yeah. - We've kinda found this balance of...

Okay, I need to sit with the discomfort of, like, allowing space,

and, like, Aussie sits with the discomfort of, like...

Staying.

... shortening that time needing, like, space away.

And so it's kinda... We've kinda just, like, figured it out.

- Compromise. - Yeah.

I feel like I'm like Aussie.

Like, I need that space,

and for you to, like, kind of realize that you need to allow that...

- It's really special. - I could not agree more with her.

Truthfully, 'cause I know it's something we fight about.

And I'm like, "I sure as hell don't know

if I could've given that much space."

It's like, "Damn, Sam. Like... "

Like, holy crap.

I definitely couldn't do it.

- So... - You can do better.

Aussie, during the experience,

your family really didn't know... where you...

- Have you met? - Not yet.

Do they know about Sam?

They don't yet.

Um, that's something I want to cross when we announce the engagement.

And, um, you know,

we haven't done that yet with our family members.

But that's something that I... They'll find out.

- Okay. So that's the plan. - That's the plan.

Surprise.

Oh my God.

In the past, maybe I would have, like, not told them about it,

but I'm trying to embrace me, and I'm trying to be more open

and, um, just my... my... live my truth.

So, I'm gonna go with it.

So are we headed to Australia for a wedding?

- Yes. - Yeah.

- We were gonna have two... - Really?

- Destination wedding? - We'll be there.

I think we'll have two. One here and one there.

- Okay. - So that, yeah, everyone can attend.

That is so cute.

It's great to see your happy ending.

- Thank you. - Watching everyone's internal struggle

and how really we all just put our hearts on the line, so much...

And there was so much growth and so much change in all of us.

Um, and I appreciate... I mean,

I feel like I grew with all of you guys.

And it's just... It really was just incredible to see.

I feel like I cried more watching it than I did... during it.

Which is surprising, I know.

I have so much respect for all of you for sharing this journey.

It was really a beautiful thing,

and why I think this whole story is so compelling.

Do you have any regrets, watching back?

Biggest regret is that I made bad impressions on you guys.

I came in here thinking, "What an amazing thing."

"I'm gonna get to hang out with... " Nine?

"... nine queer people."

"Like, this is a dream."

And it... it didn't turn out like that.

And I'm a big reason for that.

I firmly believe when I say that, if Rae and I hadn't worked out,

the experience would have been every bit as worth it

to have just, like, had what I had with Mal.

It's so hard to meet friends nowadays.

It's harder to meet people that become family.

- Yeah. - It's hard to do that in three weeks.

We had some funny moments.

It was worth the challenges. Yeah.

I think we had it for the... We did it for the right reasons.

You know, you have to pick...

You have to choose... In hard moments, you have to pick love.

When I'm not my best self, Sam's not her best self,

like, we just have to, you know, choose each other again and again.

So how do you feel about ultimatums?

I think one was enough.

Still hate 'em.

- Still hate 'em? Okay. - Yeah, no.

When you're given an ultimatum, there's so much pressure,

and, like, I was feeling a lot of resentment.

Now I'm in the place where I did make my decision,

and I'm happy.

But no more ultimatums, lady.

I won't. I won't. I got you. I promise.

- We all heard it? - Yep.

- A promise made. - It's on record. Stamping it.

I can own that.

I still am a firm believer that we wouldn't be where we are

if we didn't do this.

I second that.

- Are you all happy you did the show? - Yes.

I feel really grateful for where I'm at now.

- It brought clarity for you? - Yeah.

You date so much differently now.

Like, I'm so proud of how you move

through your life and your choices now.

Oh yeah. I'm more confident.

I listen to my voice more.

And because of that, I've also had really great dating experiences.

Like, it makes me so happy.

I love that.

Thank you for your generosity and your trust in The Ultimatum.

Thank you.

Your dad's okay?

Yeah. You know...

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