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[narrator] Welcome on this
episode of Tomorrow's World Today.
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We visit the world of production
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to learn how one company is
helping to salvage trees after wildfires.
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And how forestry management
helps keep our forests healthy.
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From Invention land
world headquarters,
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here's our host, George Davison.
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I love hearing about how
companies got their names.
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You know, some businesses
are named after their founders.
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And sometimes,
they're named after a place.
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But no matter what, there's
always thought behind it
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and always a good story to tell.
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Even an ugly dog
like the one in this picture
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could be the inspiration
for a company's name.
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In the 1960s, Einar Vidgrén,
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developed a load carrying
forest tractor
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in a local village workshop.
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The machine was made
entirely out of recycled parts
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and to put it mildly, well,
it wasn't the most attractive
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piece of machinery
that village had ever seen
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but, boy, did it work.
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And it reminded him of his
trusty hunting dog, Ponsse.
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Now, this is the very first
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drawing of a Ponsse machine.
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You see, Ponsse's fur,
it was grey and dirty.
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The dog just...
wasn't all that good looking.
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But it was reliable,
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and it never came back from
a hunting trip empty-handed
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So it only made sense to
Einari, that he name his trusty
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but ugly machine,
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after his trusty but ugly dog.
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And that's how Ponsse was born.
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Ponsse has gone on to become
one of the largest
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most reliable forest machinery
vehicle manufacturers
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in the world.
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And it's the reliability
of their harvester
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and their forester
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that help to process trees after
the 2020 wild fires out in Oregon.
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Now, let's go join David,
who's out in Oregon
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right now, to learn more about
this operation.
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[David] I'm in Eugene,
Oregon, at the site
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where the wild fires
began last year.
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This fire lasted for weeks.
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But the biggest loss,
in a short amount of time
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was when 1.2 million acres
burned
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in just 72 hours.
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And as you can see,
I'm surrounded by burnt trees.
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Most people would see the
remnants of the fire and think...
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"This wood is ruined" But that's
where they would be wrong.
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After a wild fire, a massive
cleanup has to take place.
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Post-fire salvage not only let's us
collect and use wood that was burned
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but also helps lower
the risk of an accidental fire
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happening in the area again.
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Converting dead trees
into products
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Can reduce the amount
of carbon dioxide in the air.
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Which in turn, can help
with climate change.
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Ponsse is working here to
reclaim the wood that was burned
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when the fires happened
in the summer of 2020.
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They don't have a lot of time,
just six months
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to process as much wood as they
can before it's no longer usable.
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I'm meeting Pekka Ruuskanen, President
and CEO of Ponsse, North America,
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to learn more about the process.
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You must be Pekka.
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- Oh, Hi David.
- Hi, Pekka, you're a man of your word
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you said you'd be here
and here you are.
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Well, I'm always here I was
born in the woods.
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Heh, I tell you,
it's good see you
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and I'm glad we could
have this conversation.
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It was devastating to hear about
the 4,000 homes that were destroyed.
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And then I get here
and I see these trees
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and I don't know how any
of this is salvageable.
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So how does something that
has been burned get used again?
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Would you like to see them
in action?
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- I would absolutely love to see them in action.
- Let's go and look.
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Hey, David, this is Matthew.
He's gonna take care of you.
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I have to go and take care of some
other business but see you guys later.
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- See ya.
- See ya, Pekka.
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- Matt, it's great to meet you.
- Nice to meet you, David.
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So I'm really excited to learn all I can
about these amazing machines you have
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and my guess is,
this is the harvester.
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You are correct. As a matter
of fact, this is a Ponsse Ergo.
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This machine has 32 feet of reach
from the center line of the machine,
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where then it takes
this harvesting head
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wraps it around the tree, a
saw bar comes out underneath,
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cuts the tree down,
then these 3 feed wheels,
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pull the tree through the
harvesting head where these knives
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then take the limbs
off the tree,
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this wheel in the center measures
the length and then a saw bar
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comes out again
and bucks the tree into logs.
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Okay, and now, per tree, how
many lengths are you looking for?
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It depends on the job.
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But overall we're trying to maximize
the total value out of the tree.
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But this machine also works with
another machine called a Forwarder.
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Let's go take a look.
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[Matthew] And this is the other half
of that team. This is the Forwarder.
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Wow! These tracks are massive,
what's going on with them?
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[Matthew] These tracks are a traction aide,
they help the machine disperse it's weight
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and protect the soil
and climb the hill.
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When we have extreme slopes we use this
traction aide wench underneath as well,
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we tie it off to a stump and it
helps the machine get to the road.
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- I have some operators, let's go see this machine in action.
- All right, let's go.
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[narrator] There are so manybenefits to post-fire salvage
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when it comes to keeping
our forests healthy.
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Not only does it support
local timber industries,
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but also promotes future
forest development
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and reduces the chances
of fires happening again.
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[Matthew] So now we're
out on a harvest unit.
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Kyle, our harvester operator
has set up his machine.
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He has his wench strapped off
on a stump
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and the cable's tight and he's preparing
to start opening up a new corridor.
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And what this means is,
he's gonna go down,
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and reach out 32 feet
either side of his machine,
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cut trees, process them and
lay the logs out to the side.
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And after he's done with that
corridor, then the other machine,
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the Forwarder will come by
and pick up the logs.
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But this is first phase in a
multi-step process.
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I've noticed a lot of the
trees have green tops still so,
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how do you know
which ones you have to process
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and which ones
you just leave alone?
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[Matthew] Excellent question. In
this situation, it's a salvage operation,
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most of these trees are
already dead and don't know it
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or there's a few that
might be okay
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but they're probably gonna
either blow over or die shortly so...
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we're taking all the trees
in this situation
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and then it'll be reforested.
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How about we give Kyle
a green light, let him go?
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- Sounds great to me.
- Okay.
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Kyle, let go.
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[water splashing]
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[truck idling]
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[water splashing]
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[upbeat music playing]
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[David] So, Matt, I see this teamwork
we were talking about earlier taking place.
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Could you tell me exactly what's
gonna happen during this dance.
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So what's gonna happen here is
Kyle is opening up this new corridor,
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cutting his way down the hill.
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In the meantime,
Chewy on the next corridor
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is picking up the logs that Kyle had
previously cut, putting them in his bunk,
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so when he gets it up the hill
and he's got all the logs picked up
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he'll unhook his cable,
drive to the roadside,
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unload the logs, make a nice clean
pile in preparation for the log truck.
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[truck idling]
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So, David, we've seen what the
machines have done to salvage
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as much of the burned
timber as possible.
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These logs are ready to go
to the town, to the sawmill,
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to be turned into two-by-fours or
two-by-sixes and, eventually, people's homes.
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But let me show you what's
next in this regenerative process.
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- I look forward to it, I'll follow you.
- Let's check it out.
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[narrator] After a forest fire,
there is a short window of time
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to collect burnt trees
and use them for lumber.
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Now that all the wood is
collected, it heads over to a mill.
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Believe it or not,
sawmills actually operate
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the same way they have
for hundreds of years.
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The process may not have
changed much,
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but the efficiency of milling
definitely has.
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First, wood has to be debarked.
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The bark can be saved,
or can be sold as mulch
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or even used to fuel the kilns
at a sawmill.
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Next, each log will go through
metal detection.
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Making sure they get rid
of things like nails, fencing,
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Or other metals
that could be in the logs.
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After that, you really start to see
the technological advancements
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that have happened
in the milling industry.
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Lasers can help maximize the
amount of lumber from every log.
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So there are no unnecessary
cuts being made.
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The log is cut
into the appropriate sizes
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and then it is graded and dried.
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Either with a kiln, or good
old fashioned air drying.
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Finally, once it's dry,
it's ready to be sold.
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[David] So, Matt,
what are we looking at here?
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[Matthew] What we're looking
at is a Ponsse Elephant King
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with a water tank which makes it
into an initial attack super scheduling.
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Machines like this are absolutely
valuable in fighting wildfire.
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Initial attack is a great opportunity
where we can knock down the flames
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and help prevent the fire
from becoming catastrophic.
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[David] How much water can that
carry and how long will that last?
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2,600 gallons of water, but that
machine can pump that out in ten minutes.
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[David] So what's the process
to kind of, keep that in action.
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How do you refill it, keep it
going, while fighting a fire?
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[Matthew] Good question. So the
machine has a couple of ways to do this.
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We can either fill it up
off another machine,
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or it has an internal pump
that can be placed
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in a water source and it can suck
the water up and put it in its tank.
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What do you say we turn around
and watch it in action?
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All right.
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[water splashing]
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[narrator] We've seen what happens
to wood once it's been cleared
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But we're not done yet.
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Let's head back to the clearing
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to see the next steps
for the forest.
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[Matthew] So, David, now
we're walking through the area,
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that's been harvested,
and just in the past few days
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this area was planted with,
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that 9-month-old Douglas
Fir seedlings.
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So I've read that it takes 35
years for a forest to truly regenerate.
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What can we do in the future to prevent a
forest fire like this from happening again?
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[Matthew]
Active forest management.
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Letting foresters work with
the land to control the vegetation
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to prevent catastrophic
wildfires.
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Now, I've also noticed down
here there's a tree line
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and there's a lot of green
strings around those trees.
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What makes those trees special?
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[Matthew] Those trees there
are for a very specific purpose.
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And that is,
to help protect that stream.
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Even when the fire came
through here,
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those trees are gonna fall in the
stream and become habitat for fish.
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Because we want to re-establish
wildlife and fish populations
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back into this area that
is burnt.
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[Matthew]
But let's go take a look
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at what this is gonna look
like in the future.
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I do not know
where we're at Matt.
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I can't see the forest for
the trees, nor could Bigfoot.
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What I will say,
it's dark in here and dense.
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[Matthew] It is. And that's
because this is 27 year old
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untinned Douglas Fir Forest.
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- But let me show you what active management looks like.
- Sounds great.
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[footsteps approaching]
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[Matthew] Here we are in a thinned
27-year-old Douglas Fir Forest.
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We thinned this forest last
fall, removed half the trees.
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They went to town to become forest
products where we sequestered the carbon,
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reduced our fire hazard and improved
wildlife habitat. I call that a win.
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-Hey, that sounds great. Let's go find Bigfoot.
-Okay.
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[blows]
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Wow, Matt. You have
a slice of heaven out here.
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Yes we do. This is my office.
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Across the landscape here
we have a mosaic of ages.
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The far hill over there, is
about 70-year-old Douglas Fir.
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Right in the middle,
is a 30-year-old Douglas Fir
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stand that
we thinned 2 years ago.
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And we're currently standing in
a 6-year-old Douglas Fir forest.
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How about we take
a look at some of these ages?
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- I was thinking the same thing.
- Great.
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[Matthew] So what we're looking
at here is a 6-year-old Douglas Fir.
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[David] Okay, so, I see a Christmas
Tree. How do you know this is 6 years old?
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I start at the top, I look at the
leader which is the top part of the tree
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and the first cluster of branches is
called the whirl and I count down,
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One, two, three, four,
five, six.
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Six years in the field, maybe
a year or two in the nursery,
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so foresters count it from the time it's
planted in the field, so 6-year-old tree.
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How about we go look
at another age class?
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- You lead the way.
- Okay.
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[birds chirping]
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[footsteps approaching]
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So here, David, now we're looking
at trees that are roughly twice the age
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and twice the size of the ones we just
look at. These trees are in their teens.
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And now entering a rapid
growth phase in their life cycle
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and are sequestering lots of carbon
and converting it to woody material.
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I love the science going on. What do
you say we go find some 20 somethings.
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- Let's do it, heh.
- All right.
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[footsteps]
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So now, we're walking through a
stand that's roughly 20 years old.
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[David] Why are these
limbs missing needles?
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[Matthew] Well, what we've
reached is a point at which
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the trees are big enough
for the crowns are closing
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and the limbs below are staring
to lose their needles and die off.
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We are rapidly approaching a point at which
we need to perform some active management
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- Would you like to go look at that site?
- You lead the way.
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[footsteps approaching]
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[David] Yeah, okay,
Matt. Now I get it.
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Now I understand
the cycle you're speaking of.
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I've seen them from saplings, now
they reach all the way to the sky.
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It's beautiful, isn't it? First we
planted them, then we thinned them.
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In the process we sequestered
carbon, improved wildlife habitat,
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- it's a beautiful thing.
- It is a beautiful thing.
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Now the next thing that
I think we need to do
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is get you on a plane to Pittsburg to
meet with George at Invention land.
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He'd love to learn more about
this life cycle that you're speaking of
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and I think you should
bring something for him
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because he'd love to put that
in his museum.
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- [Matthew] I'd love to.
- [David] Great.
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- Hey, Matt.
- Hi, George.
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- What's this?
- It's an Ore' Spruce, a gift for you.
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Thank you very much, Matt. I
know exactly what I'll do with this.
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I'm gonna wrap a story around
it, put it outside Invention land
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and we'll talking to kids
about it, the future of forestry.
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- That's great.
- Super.
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So how did David do out there in
Oregon when he went out to see you?
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David did fantastic. We had a
great opportunity taking David
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to the forest where he saw the
devastation from last year's wild fires.
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And he saw what we're doing in
conjunction with the Ponsse machines,
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to harvest that wood
before it goes bad,
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and then heal the land
before replanting it.
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Well, he also sent me this
image I was hoping you could
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help me to understand this
a little more.
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Could you go through the
process of what I'm looking at here.
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So what we're looking at here is
a diagram of the forestry life cycle.
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It starts out
with the planting of the trees
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then the trees grow
and then at some point in time
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foresters actively manage
the forest and re-engage
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which will remove some trees,
make the forest healthy
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because our end result is we're trying
to target growing a big healthy forest.
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At some point in time,
that forest will be harvested,
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those products will go to town
to benefit society
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and the cycle will start
all over again.
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Very nice. You know, it kind of
reminds me of a farmer, you know,
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they clear their field, they plant
seed and then they put their crops in,
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they harvest them, then they
start all over the next year.
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They do. Foresters do the same
just on a much longer time horizon.
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Speaking of the horizon,
what's on the horizon?
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What's the future look like
for forest management?
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Forest management
has a bright future,
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it's gonna involve a few things
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One will be active management,
the stage we talked about here
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where foresters are actively
managing the forest
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to help prevent
catastrophic wildfires.
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And then utilizing data
and technologies
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to make decisions about
what we do in the forest.
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And we're gonna use
connectivity with the machines
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- and with foresters in the field to make smart decisions.
- Interesting.
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So does the connectivity
go all the way to the end user
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so if we were to know what
the end users' needs were,
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can those needs be
sent out to a forester
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and then you're actually
harvesting, uh, logs to that need?
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Exactly. So what's gonna
happen in the future
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is when somebody places
an order to build a house
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and they need a certain amount
of a certain sizes of lumber
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that information will be
transmitted to the machines
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which will be doing the
harvesting,
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to cut and process logs
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into the exact lengths needed
to build that house.
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Well, that's exciting.
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So, this process actually
looks like
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we're gonna have less forest
fires in the future I hope.
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- We should.
- All right, well, you know what I'm gonna do?
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I'm gonna go plant a tree,
you've inspired me today, Matt.
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Well, thanks George. I gotta get
back and check on the guys in Oregon
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-So I'll see you later
-Safe travels.
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Thanks.
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