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Did you see what I just saw?
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Everything changes right now, folks.
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Resurrections, evil heroes,
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the death of the Flash,
but not that Flash.
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We're gonna talk about all of it
right here on "Crisis Aftermath".
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Come on!
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Welcome to "Crisis Aftermath", man.
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It's a good thing that this show
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exists outside of time and space,
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because things are looking
pretty bad for our heroes.
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So much to cover.
Where do we even begin?
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How about introducing the panel, man?
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Executive producer Marc
Guggenheim is with us again.
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Universally recognized
nerd Dani Fernandez is back.
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And look at this. The
baddest of the bad, man.
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And the baldest of the bald.
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Lex Luthor himself, Jon Cryer is here!
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- Captain, how are you, man?
- Thank you, thank you.
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I am very well. Very well. And you?
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So damn good. I have been enjoying
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what you've been doing with Luthor.
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Look, I'll get into it later,
but I think it's the best
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interpretation of Luthor
that's ever been done.
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We'll talk about it in a second.
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- Wow, okay.
- The Multiverse is kaput,
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Superman is dead,
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and Anti-Monitor's evil plan
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is centered around God's
cruelest invention a treadmill.
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Jon, here's a question
from Twitter, man.
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They're asking... Orphansteph says...
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_
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Ah, well, we shot a
huge scene in a quarry.
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And it hasn't actually played yet,
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but it is the huge shadow demon battle.
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And we shot it in an
actual working quarry...
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- Mm-hmm.
- ... so there was actual
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huge explosions of dynamite
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going on as we were shooting.
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So it was pouring rain,
there were stunts...
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it was crazy stunts, and
we had stunt explosions
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and real explosions with,
like, small avalanches.
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The thing was, they were pulling
out the stops for the crossover.
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And, honestly, when I had done
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three episodes of "Supergirl" last year
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and they told me they were doing Crisis,
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I said, "Okay, that might
be something I have to do".
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So, let me ask... that was
something I wanted to know.
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Were you only gonna do Luthor for just
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that little bit and then never again?
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And then you heard about this,
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and you were like, "I wanna still play"?
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Yeah, well, the idea was
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that Luthor was only
gonna do three episodes.
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- Yeah.
- And that was... the whole point was
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we were just gonna have some
fun in this particular universe
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and that was gonna be it.
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But, obviously, the character
caught fire a little bit,
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and I knew Crisis was coming up
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and I really wanted
to participate in that.
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And now you inherited the mantle,
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and your take on the character,
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to me, as a comic book reader,
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is the closest to the
books that I've ever seen,
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except within the animated series, man.
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Like, live action? That is Luthor.
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I remember reading something about you,
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and I don't know if
it was tongue in cheek.
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But you were like, "I gotta make up for,
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like, the 'Superman' that I was in".
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Which I assume was more
humor than anything else.
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But you're a guy that's
known for being funny,
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for playing funny.
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Was it exciting to be offered,
like, the ultimate villain?
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Yes, it was.
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It was a little odd
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because the way it came
about was very strange.
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I got a call from an old friend
of mine from summer camp,
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who said, "You know,
I think the producers
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of 'Supergirl' are trying
to get in touch with you".
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I'm like, "What?" And then Bill Prady,
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who was a producer of "Big Bang Theory",
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wrote me an email saying,
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"Somebody wants to ask you
about playing Mex Muthor".
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And I said, "Wait,
what is happening here?"
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And then I got the call.
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And at first I just thought, "Why me?"
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You know, in a million
years, I wouldn't think...
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but then the second I started really
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going through the iterations
of who this guy is,
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I was like, "Oh, my God,
I wanna do this guy".
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And that I had the
history with, you know,
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obviously, working with Gene.
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But, yeah, that interview
was not really a joke.
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It was that "Superman IV" was
a very emotional thing for me.
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Being a part of the Superman
universe was really important to me.
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And, unfortunately, that movie...
they ran out of money on it.
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I don't know if you've
seen "Superman IV",
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- but it is not the most...
- A couple times.
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It is not the most polished
of the Superman franchise.
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And I'd always been very
disappointed in that.
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I had always felt
like... and it was also
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sort of the end of the
Christopher Reeve Superman.
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And that broke my heart,
because I loved it as a kid.
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In 1978, when I saw
"Superman: The Movie",
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- I believed a man could fly.
- You believed a man could fly.
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Exactly. And so being a part
of that was important to me,
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and I felt like we let
down the legacy of it.
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And so when the producers of "Supergirl"
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told me what they wanted to do with Lex,
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I was like, "Oh".
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'Cause I haven't seen
a comics-accurate Lex.
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You're absolutely right.
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Did you go to the
material? Are you a fan?
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Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
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I collect Jack Kirby comic art.
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I go to Comic-Con on purpose.
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And just by myself for fun.
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I grew up kind of immersed
in the Marvel universe,
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and only actually came
later to understand
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all the great stuff
that was going on in DC.
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But a part of my youth...
and "Crisis" itself
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was a part of my youth,
because it was so ambitious.
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As an '80s kid, I never could've
envisioned Ducky as Luthor.
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You are absolutely pulling it off.
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- You're nailing it, man.
- Oh, thank you.
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I also love that everyone
tried to get a hold of you.
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It's, like, dude, check your DMs.
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- I know. You're right.
- You know? Like...
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Hours two and three of Crisis
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were all about the Paragons, man.
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The search for those seven
extra-special do-gooders
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set this whole adventure in motion.
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So, Mark, what do the
Paragons represent?
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Well, you know, they represent
different aspects of humanity.
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You know, hope and love
and courage and truth.
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But what they really represented
for us as writers was
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we needed a McGuffin.
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We needed our heroes to
be looking for something.
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And every year prior to
"Crisis On Infinite Earths",
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they did an annual crossover
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between "The Justice League of America"
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and "The Justice Society of America".
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And the last one before "Crisis",
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written by Jerry Conway
and drawn George Price,
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who drew "Crisis", was about the idea
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that there were these
special characters that...
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in the comic, if you remove
them from the universe,
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basically all superheroes
would disappear.
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But the idea that there
are these special heroes
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that are out in the multiverse,
that was worth appropriating.
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- And appropriating...
- Stealing.
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Yeah, there we go.
Just call it what it is.
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Fancy writer talk over there.
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Let's talk about Batwoman,
the Paragon of Courage.
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Dani, what makes Batwoman
courageous in your estimation?
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Well, she was not someone
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that originally even
planned to be a vigilante.
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And she's also fighting alongside
people that have superpowers,
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so that takes a lot
of courage, to be like,
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"Oh, I might be the
first one to die here".
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But she also has tremendous PTSD.
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She's dealing with
discrimination for her sexuality.
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There's so many things that
she is going up against,
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so many obstacles that she's had.
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And yet she still is fighting
for us for some reason.
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So that... I mean, that
takes a lot of courage.
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- Absolutely.
- She stands up against Supergirl, you know?
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Yeah, she's got some
kryptonite in her pocket,
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but she's got a lot of courage
there in that moment.
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They do have a nice "World's
Finest" dynamic going on,
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with Kara being like,
"Hey, we're friends",
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and Batwoman being like, "I don't know".
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I think in the years to come,
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we will see that the relationship
between Kate and Kara
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is the replacement for the relationship
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between Barry and Oliver.
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Ooh, nice, man. Inside dirt right there.
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Jon, Lex Luthor seems to
have taken Superman's place
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as a Paragon of Truth
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thanks to the Bookmark of Destiny.
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Yes.
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Let's take another look
at how he got there.
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- We have to go back right now.
- Barry, we can't.
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They're gone.
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No.
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- Something's wrong.
- Kal? Kal?
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- Something's wrong.
- No.
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- I can't...
- Hey, hey, hey.
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I can't... Kara, please.
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Fix it...
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Fix it.
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What do I do?
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No, no!
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Oh, I am so happy that worked.
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Lex, what did you do?
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Well, I held the Book of Destiny
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and I saw you seven
Paragons due to be stranded
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at the Vanishing Point.
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And I thought destiny
could use a little rewrite.
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So...
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what do we do now?
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You're in a scene like that.
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Are you like, "Get me a costume!"
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I get some very nice suits.
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- You do.
- They're beautifully tailored.
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Uh, yeah, you know, it was...
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it was me and a bunch of capes.
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You look like the one guy at the house
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that everybody's trick-or-treating at.
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Yeah, it was fun, though.
You know, it was...
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and also a great sort of
gut punch part of the show,
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'cause, you know...
'cause that was my holy...
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holy moment,
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was going, "Oh, no".
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You know, 'cause Brandon as Superman
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is just a great Superman.
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And it's something they've
been teasing the whole time.
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- The whole time.
- Like, "You're gonna see him in the suit! He's back!"
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- And then you take him away.
- Oh, God!
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It's like in "Aliens"
when the captain...
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or rather "Alien",
when the captain dies.
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You know, it's like, "Oh, no.
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- Things are not gonna go well from here".
- Anything can happen.
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What is it like playing Lex Luthor?
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How does one approach the character?
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Because it's... you know, it's...
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one would be tempted to
play him as just a villain,
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but he doesn't see himself as a villain.
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He sees himself as a world savior.
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Oh, absolutely.
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- He's a bit of a sociopath...
- Yeah.
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... in this one. They've
allowed that layer to come in.
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Whereas he's been a little
more clownish in the films
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- and stuff like that.
- Right.
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But even the worst sociopath...
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you know, Ted Bundy
was incredibly charming
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and worked at a suicide
prevention hotline.
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He saved some lives. So
people are complicated,
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and that's what I'm letting Lex be.
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Ted Bundy is like, "Why
are you harshing on me?
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- I saved all these other lives".
- Exactly.
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- "I only killed a couple of hundred".
- "On the average..."
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You know, it's nice when
everyone can talk about Bundy
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and end with, "It's complicated".
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- Well, you know...
- Really reduces it down to what it is.
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I want to thank Jon Cryer
for joining us, man.
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- Excellent job...
- Truly a pleasure.
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- ... killing Luthor.
- Thank you.
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- Well, not killing, but killing it as Luthor.
- Killing it as.
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We gotta be careful
what we say around here.
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People take it seriously,
write it down on the Internet.
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We've got so much more in store tonight
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on "Crisis Aftermath", including a visit
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from the voice of Batman
himself, Kevin Conroy.
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And the world premiere teaser
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for CW's newest superhero Stargirl, man.
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I've read the Book of Destiny
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and it says you won't go anywhere.
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Stay right there.
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Hey, man, welcome back
to "Crisis Aftermath".
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I'm here with Marc
Guggenheim, Dani Fernandez,
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and our next guest is the
showrunner of "The Flash".
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It's Eric Wallace. How are you, sir?
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- Doing great.
- Okay, as we saw tonight,
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"Crisis On Infinite Earths"
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deals a lot with fate and destiny.
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The crisis itself has been teased
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since the very first
episode of "The Flash".
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I remember seeing this headline
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and being incredibly excited inside,
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goosebumps, going like,
"They're talking about 'Crisis'.
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Like, I know what that
is. Will they ever do it?"
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What is it like building
up to an event that massive?
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You think to yourself,
"Okay, we've got to honor
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this really incredible,
incredible comic book event".
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So, you're putting the season together,
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and we started at the end
last year wit "Elseworlds",
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and you're like, "Does the
Flash really have to die?
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Do we really have to do this?"
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- And not only...
- I'm sure Grant was like, "No!"
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I was the same way.
"We'll all be out of a job.
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We can't do that. No, he's got to live".
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So you've got to come up with
a way to honor what we've said
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with the Monitor in 601
saying, "The Flash must die",
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but also give it a nice story
twist, give it some emotion.
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So we thought about
it for quite a while,
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and we got to what I
hope the audience thinks
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is a very satisfying conclusion,
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which is a little bit of
the best of both worlds.
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Grant almost doing it, wanting to,
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being the hero that we always
thought he was gonna be,
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and at the very last second,
in comes John Wesley Shipp...
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- Right.
- ... and it completes a 30-year arc.
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And here I am watching
this, weeping, right?
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- That's tears rolling.
- I'm 14-year-old Eric
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watching that CBS pilot back in the day
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and I'm thinking, "Wow, this
could only happen on a crossover".
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You even brought in the score.
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- Yes.
- Like, when I heard the old score come in,
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I was...
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And, you know, John Wesley Shipp
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has been well served by the
Arrowverse for years now,
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but this is such a
grand, glorious moment
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to see him back in that suit.
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Because in many ways, like,
that show is a trailblazer
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for, like, what you guys
have been doing for years.
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Seeing him back in the suit and then
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dying as the Flash is really, really...
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And that flashback moment, oh!
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- Does it get you?
- Yes.
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- It gets me every time.
- Oh, man. I know.
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- And that was my Flash growing up.
- Yes.
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And to see that come full
circle? Tears right there.
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- We didn't script that originally.
- I know.
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That was something that we
added in the editing room.
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- So it wasn't in the script?
- It wasn't in the script.
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So, what happens in
an instance like that?
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You cut together the
show and you're like,
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- "Ooh, if we did this..."
- We want to see...
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we want to see a little
bit of his life flashing...
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no pun intended...
before his eyes, you know?
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We just craved it, and,
you know, our amazing,
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you know, post-producer Jeff Garret,
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you know, went to the
archives and got the footage.
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And we knew we had to
change the aspect ratio
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because it was a different
aspect ratio back then.
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That's right, they were
shot 1.33 back in the day.
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So, um... but, man, it's awesome.
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It's one of my favorite
moments in that hour.
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That's crazy, man. That's a nice touch.
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As we were saying, we finally
saw Flash meet his fate,
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but it didn't play out
exactly like he expected,
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so let's take another look.
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I couldn't be the hero
I am without you guys.
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Tell Joe and Iris I love them.
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We will.
338
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Sorry, kid, but this has to happen.
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Barry, what are you doing?
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I'm momentarily stealing your speed.
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You play the speedster game long
enough, you learn some neat tricks.
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Wait, why are you doing this?
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00:14:35,034 --> 00:14:37,126
Novu said, "The Flash
must die in Crisis".
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He never said which one.
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Come on, you're cruel, man.
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How do you decide to
kill off such a big hero?
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I mean, look, you killed off the Flash,
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but not the Flash that everyone's, like,
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- tuning in to see every week.
- Right.
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So you can have your
cake and eat it, too.
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We did, we did.
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- But hopefully we honor the original Flash...
- You did, yeah.
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... you know, from the '90s show.
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And up until that moment
right before it happens,
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hopefully the audience
is literally saying,
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"There's no way out of this.
There's no way out of this".
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And then the twist comes,
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and you have these two great
performers, two generations,
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where you have Grant
Gustin who loves John
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and John loves Wesley...
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- I guess he loves himself.
- He loves himself.
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Who doesn't love the Flash, right?
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But John loving Grant, and to
see them working together...
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and that was real emotion
that you saw in that scene
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as they kind of
realized... Grant's like,
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"He's passing a real torch to me.
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This really is the end of him".
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And then John, he told
us, I think, afterwards,
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"Thank you for giving me
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this opportunity to close a chapter".
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Oh, my God, I'm gonna cry.
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I'm gonna cry just thinking about it.
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That's so true. I never
thought about that.
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When they ended "Flash",
it ended unceremoniously,
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and they didn't like,
"Here's your season finale".
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00:15:47,063 --> 00:15:50,358
So to actually bring
closure to his incarnation?
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Come on, that's a gift.
378
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That John Wesley Shipp
death, that's big time.
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- We're very lucky.
- Absolutely. Absolutely true.
380
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Now that the Anti-Monitor
has won, ostensibly,
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the Multiverse is gone
and everything is nothing.
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I personally am having
trouble staying sane, man.
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Here to give us the
latest Multiverse report
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is "Entertainment Weekly's"
own Chancellor Agard.
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Chancellor, how you doing, man?
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Dealing.
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00:16:13,922 --> 00:16:16,056
All right, take us there.
You got the big board.
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00:16:16,057 --> 00:16:18,893
I got some things here.
I can try to help you out.
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00:16:18,894 --> 00:16:20,686
Well, in the past two hours,
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00:16:20,687 --> 00:16:22,796
we went to eight parallel Earths.
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First we started on Earth 18,
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where Barry, Mia, Constantine, and Sara
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tried to resurrect Oliver
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00:16:28,152 --> 00:16:29,802
and kind of turned him into a zombie,
395
00:16:29,803 --> 00:16:33,306
and fought a version of Jonah
Hex without his iconic scar.
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00:16:33,307 --> 00:16:34,874
Then we went to Earth 167
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00:16:34,875 --> 00:16:37,676
where we encountered Tom
Welling from "Smallville",
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who gave up his powers
to chop wood and have kids
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00:16:40,014 --> 00:16:41,480
with "Smallville's" Erica Durance,
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the Lois Lane to his Clark.
401
00:16:42,983 --> 00:16:45,051
- He still won't wear the "S".
- No!
402
00:16:45,052 --> 00:16:47,586
On Earth 96, Brandon Routh wore the "S",
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00:16:47,587 --> 00:16:51,492
specifically in a suit based off
Alex Ross's "Kingdom Come" design.
404
00:16:51,493 --> 00:16:53,287
Oh, yeah, we were all
very tingly about that.
405
00:16:53,288 --> 00:16:54,693
And speaking of "Kingdom Come",
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00:16:54,694 --> 00:16:56,740
that comic also gave us the rock bottom
407
00:16:56,741 --> 00:16:58,431
Bruce Wayne wearing the exoskeleton
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00:16:58,432 --> 00:17:00,566
who killed Superman on Earth 99,
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00:17:00,567 --> 00:17:02,434
played by, in my opinion,
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00:17:02,435 --> 00:17:04,069
the best Batman, Kevin Conroy,
411
00:17:04,070 --> 00:17:06,494
who voiced him on the animated
series and in the video games.
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00:17:06,495 --> 00:17:08,206
- Yes.
- Then on Earth 666,
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while the name is not so subtle,
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00:17:09,442 --> 00:17:11,410
nor is the man himself, Lucifer,
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00:17:11,411 --> 00:17:13,697
played by Tom Ellis on
the Netflix show "Lucifer",
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00:17:13,698 --> 00:17:16,281
which is inspired by the
DC comic "The Sandman".
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00:17:16,282 --> 00:17:19,529
This is his first Arrowverse
appearance, as you said earlier.
418
00:17:19,530 --> 00:17:21,886
Also making his Arrowverse
debut is Black Lightning.
419
00:17:21,887 --> 00:17:24,292
So now the only CW show not involved
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00:17:24,293 --> 00:17:25,590
in a crossover is "Nancy Drew".
421
00:17:25,591 --> 00:17:27,315
- Yes.
- And, finally...
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00:17:27,316 --> 00:17:29,294
we learn that Earth
203 is where the women
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from the 2000s-era "Birds
of Prey" show hang out.
424
00:17:32,365 --> 00:17:34,632
But none of this matters
because the Anti-Monitor
425
00:17:34,633 --> 00:17:37,084
destroyed all of this and
everything we love and know,
426
00:17:37,085 --> 00:17:39,670
including this entire segment.
427
00:17:39,671 --> 00:17:41,271
Faster!
428
00:17:44,209 --> 00:17:45,242
There you have it.
429
00:17:45,243 --> 00:17:47,044
There it is. Thanks, Chancellor, man.
430
00:17:47,045 --> 00:17:50,081
Good Lord, it takes a mind
to bring us through all that.
431
00:17:50,082 --> 00:17:51,148
Okay.
432
00:17:51,149 --> 00:17:52,789
"Nancy Drew" was
supposed to be a spoiler.
433
00:17:54,186 --> 00:17:56,653
♪ It's so hard ♪
434
00:17:56,654 --> 00:17:59,357
♪ To say good-bye ♪
435
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♪ To our favorite characters
from the Arrowverse ♪
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00:18:03,428 --> 00:18:05,429
Let's take a minute now to pay tribute
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to all the people,
places, and, yes, planets
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00:18:08,133 --> 00:18:09,649
that we've lost along the way.
439
00:18:09,650 --> 00:18:11,267
Roll that sad-ass clip.
440
00:18:30,788 --> 00:18:35,525
I made a promise to keep
fighting no matter what.
441
00:18:45,469 --> 00:18:48,438
My world died.
442
00:18:48,439 --> 00:18:49,705
My family.
443
00:19:21,738 --> 00:19:22,939
Hadn't even thought of that.
444
00:19:22,940 --> 00:19:24,941
Now facing my own mortality.
445
00:19:24,942 --> 00:19:26,442
- So weird.
- That's very meta.
446
00:19:26,443 --> 00:19:27,609
Yeah, right?
447
00:19:27,610 --> 00:19:30,445
I love that they did dogs and not cats.
448
00:19:30,446 --> 00:19:33,114
- Aww.
- I want to thank Eric for joining us, man.
449
00:19:33,115 --> 00:19:35,550
When we come back, we're
gonna be talking to a man
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00:19:35,551 --> 00:19:37,786
who sounds a lot like Batman.
451
00:19:37,787 --> 00:19:40,889
And we have the world premiere
of the "Stargirl" teaser.
452
00:19:40,890 --> 00:19:42,958
In brightest day, in blackest night,
453
00:19:42,959 --> 00:19:45,192
we will see you later
tonight. Stick around.
454
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Welcome back, man. You're
watching "Crisis Aftermath",
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the official "Crisis On
Infinite Earths" aftershow.
456
00:20:04,426 --> 00:20:07,594
The Anti-Monitor's evil plan
brought an end to the universe
457
00:20:07,595 --> 00:20:09,596
and killed everyone we've ever loved.
458
00:20:09,597 --> 00:20:10,819
But on the plus side,
459
00:20:10,820 --> 00:20:13,057
the Arrowverse finally
got to see Bruce Wayne,
460
00:20:13,058 --> 00:20:15,269
although this Bruce Wayne
was a bit of a grump.
461
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:16,503
Let's look.
462
00:20:16,504 --> 00:20:18,672
This guy's not a paragon of anything.
463
00:20:18,673 --> 00:20:20,975
I was right. We can't trust The Monitor.
464
00:20:20,976 --> 00:20:24,278
- What did you do?
- Clearly, what you couldn't.
465
00:20:24,279 --> 00:20:25,446
How was he a threat?
466
00:20:25,447 --> 00:20:27,280
Strange visitor from another planet
467
00:20:27,281 --> 00:20:29,449
comes to Earth with powers and abilities
468
00:20:29,450 --> 00:20:32,052
far beyond those of mortal men?
469
00:20:32,053 --> 00:20:33,954
Clark.
470
00:20:33,955 --> 00:20:39,125
Clark always said yes to
anyone with a badge or a flag.
471
00:20:39,126 --> 00:20:41,561
He gave them too much power.
472
00:20:41,562 --> 00:20:43,930
My parents taught me a
very different lesson.
473
00:20:43,931 --> 00:20:47,733
Life only makes sense
if you force it to.
474
00:20:48,970 --> 00:20:50,904
Come on, man!
475
00:20:50,905 --> 00:20:53,217
Holy crap, I am so happy to have
476
00:20:53,218 --> 00:20:54,674
one of my personal idols here.
477
00:20:54,675 --> 00:20:56,943
The one true Batman,
ladies and gentlemen.
478
00:20:56,944 --> 00:20:58,979
- It's Kevin Conroy.
- Hey, how's it going?
479
00:20:58,980 --> 00:21:00,981
How's it going? Good to see you.
480
00:21:00,982 --> 00:21:02,849
- Hey!
- Yes, everybody knows.
481
00:21:02,850 --> 00:21:04,850
I am vengeance.
482
00:21:04,851 --> 00:21:08,553
- I'm like...
- My nipples got hard, man.
483
00:21:08,554 --> 00:21:10,256
I'm in the radius of his voice.
484
00:21:10,257 --> 00:21:12,824
- I can, like, feel it.
- There you go.
485
00:21:12,825 --> 00:21:14,426
You have spent the
better part of the last,
486
00:21:14,427 --> 00:21:16,661
- what, 25 years or more...
- 27.
487
00:21:16,662 --> 00:21:19,787
27 years as the voice
of the one true Batman.
488
00:21:19,788 --> 00:21:21,300
This is the first time you actually
489
00:21:21,301 --> 00:21:23,102
got to physically portray
him in real media.
490
00:21:23,103 --> 00:21:24,870
- What was that like?
- I know. It was incredible
491
00:21:24,871 --> 00:21:27,106
to get that opportunity, finally.
492
00:21:27,107 --> 00:21:29,102
But as old Bruce Wayne, you know?
493
00:21:29,103 --> 00:21:33,112
Old, sort of angry,
494
00:21:33,113 --> 00:21:35,147
bitter Bruce Wayne.
495
00:21:35,148 --> 00:21:38,416
So it's a version of
him I had never imagined,
496
00:21:38,417 --> 00:21:41,765
and I really leapt at the opportunity.
497
00:21:41,766 --> 00:21:43,354
- I was so happy.
- How did it happen?
498
00:21:43,355 --> 00:21:44,588
You got a call and they were like,
499
00:21:44,589 --> 00:21:46,457
"Hey, man, we got an idea".
500
00:21:46,458 --> 00:21:47,525
Well, it was so wonderful.
501
00:21:47,526 --> 00:21:49,460
It was sort of a mixture of worlds
502
00:21:49,461 --> 00:21:52,596
because the person who's responsible
503
00:21:52,597 --> 00:21:54,532
for a lot of casting
at Warner Bros. now,
504
00:21:54,533 --> 00:21:58,702
for on-camera casting, is someone
I've known for 40 years from...
505
00:21:58,703 --> 00:22:01,139
- I used to do theater in New York, as you know.
- Yeah.
506
00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:04,075
And, um, I know Tom Berg
from the old days in New York,
507
00:22:04,076 --> 00:22:06,044
and he knew my work from the stage.
508
00:22:06,045 --> 00:22:09,414
So he knew me as an on-camera
actor and as stage actor
509
00:22:09,415 --> 00:22:11,582
long before any of the
voice stuff came along.
510
00:22:11,583 --> 00:22:16,306
So when this came up, I think the
producers were talking about it,
511
00:22:16,307 --> 00:22:18,720
and Tom was there to
say, "Well, you know,
512
00:22:18,721 --> 00:22:20,658
I know him from his on-camera work
513
00:22:20,659 --> 00:22:22,660
and his stage work. He can handle this".
514
00:22:22,661 --> 00:22:25,262
So it was a mixture of
worlds. It was wonderful.
515
00:22:25,263 --> 00:22:27,688
Was it that simple?
And were you in the room
516
00:22:27,689 --> 00:22:30,090
when they were like, "What if
we got Kevin Conroy to do it?
517
00:22:30,091 --> 00:22:33,270
Well, yeah. We wanted Kate
to meet a version of Bruce
518
00:22:33,271 --> 00:22:36,774
that was obviously different
from the Earth 1 version of Bruce.
519
00:22:36,775 --> 00:22:40,778
We were talking about who
could play an older Batman,
520
00:22:40,779 --> 00:22:42,112
an older Bruce Wayne.
521
00:22:42,113 --> 00:22:45,605
And the moment Kevin's
name came up in the room,
522
00:22:45,606 --> 00:22:47,116
the entire room went insane.
523
00:22:47,117 --> 00:22:49,251
I mean, just insane. And
we knew we had to do it.
524
00:22:49,252 --> 00:22:52,254
And, you know, Tom...
actually, I think he was like,
525
00:22:52,255 --> 00:22:54,624
"I'm actually having
dinner with Kevin tomorrow".
526
00:22:54,625 --> 00:22:55,959
Then he brought it up to him.
527
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,127
We've remained friends for 40 years,
528
00:22:58,128 --> 00:23:00,899
so that was just a
great happy coincidence.
529
00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:04,233
There's a lot of things that
happen both on these shows
530
00:23:04,234 --> 00:23:06,068
and in the crossover
that, quite frankly,
531
00:23:06,069 --> 00:23:08,972
I believe only happened
by dint of destiny.
532
00:23:08,973 --> 00:23:11,073
- Really?
- And this was absolutely
533
00:23:11,074 --> 00:23:12,909
one of those fortuitous
moments where it's like,
534
00:23:12,910 --> 00:23:14,343
"Oh, this is meant to be".
535
00:23:14,344 --> 00:23:16,579
When you talk about
destiny, though, I mean,
536
00:23:16,580 --> 00:23:18,747
my even playing this role...
537
00:23:18,748 --> 00:23:21,660
this is the first animated
role I ever auditioned for.
538
00:23:21,661 --> 00:23:22,918
- Are you kidding?
- Never.
539
00:23:22,919 --> 00:23:25,421
- Wow.
- It was the first audition
540
00:23:25,422 --> 00:23:27,490
I went in on for an animated character.
541
00:23:27,491 --> 00:23:30,926
Your performance as Batman
is the one that, like,
542
00:23:30,927 --> 00:23:33,362
when I read a comic
book, I hear your voice.
543
00:23:33,363 --> 00:23:36,465
When I think of Batman, when
I see a review of something
544
00:23:36,466 --> 00:23:37,900
and they talk about, "Batman says this",
545
00:23:37,901 --> 00:23:39,728
I always hear it in your voice.
546
00:23:39,729 --> 00:23:41,437
- Yes.
- You are so... yes!
547
00:23:41,438 --> 00:23:44,173
- The brain-washing worked.
- Oh!
548
00:23:44,174 --> 00:23:46,543
I get a young brain and I hold on.
549
00:23:46,544 --> 00:23:48,610
That was... that was
absolutely wonderful.
550
00:23:48,611 --> 00:23:51,746
Since we have the voice
of Batman right here,
551
00:23:51,747 --> 00:23:53,114
we knew that we had to milk it.
552
00:23:53,115 --> 00:23:55,450
So we asked fans what they'd most like
553
00:23:55,451 --> 00:23:56,784
to hear the Dark Knight say.
554
00:23:56,785 --> 00:23:58,319
Kevin, you down to read some of this?
555
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,288
- I'm down.
- Oh, yeah!
556
00:24:00,289 --> 00:24:02,346
Here we go, man. Take it away.
557
00:24:02,347 --> 00:24:05,893
_
558
00:24:05,894 --> 00:24:07,027
Yes!
559
00:24:08,123 --> 00:24:11,066
_
560
00:24:11,067 --> 00:24:13,734
Oh, such a better version of "Titanic".
561
00:24:13,735 --> 00:24:15,598
I wish both the kids had
lived in that version.
562
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:17,622
_
563
00:24:17,623 --> 00:24:19,646
_
564
00:24:19,647 --> 00:24:20,832
_
565
00:24:20,833 --> 00:24:23,545
Oh, every Nickelodeon kid just lost it.
566
00:24:23,546 --> 00:24:26,780
- Oh, no!
- Yes.
567
00:24:26,781 --> 00:24:28,504
_
568
00:24:28,505 --> 00:24:31,728
_
569
00:24:31,729 --> 00:24:35,648
_
570
00:24:35,649 --> 00:24:38,567
Oh. I think we've all been
waiting to hear that one.
571
00:24:40,495 --> 00:24:42,718
_
572
00:24:42,719 --> 00:24:44,742
_
573
00:24:44,743 --> 00:24:47,466
_
574
00:24:47,467 --> 00:24:49,703
_
575
00:24:49,704 --> 00:24:51,838
I don't feel like a fan did that.
576
00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:53,440
I snuck that one in myself.
577
00:24:53,441 --> 00:24:55,209
I'm literally gonna roll a tear, man.
578
00:24:55,210 --> 00:24:58,112
Kevin, thank you so much
for not only joining us,
579
00:24:58,113 --> 00:25:01,380
- for being Batman for the last 27 years.
- Thank you. Appreciate it.
580
00:25:01,381 --> 00:25:03,382
We gotta take a break,
but when we come back,
581
00:25:03,383 --> 00:25:04,883
we're gonna chat with Robert Wuhl
582
00:25:04,884 --> 00:25:06,619
about returning to the DC universe.
583
00:25:06,620 --> 00:25:08,988
And we look forward to January's finale
584
00:25:08,989 --> 00:25:11,591
of "Crisis On Infinite Earths", man.
585
00:25:11,592 --> 00:25:13,892
We're para-gone, but not para-forgotten.
586
00:25:13,893 --> 00:25:15,460
Stick around. We'll be right back.
587
00:25:28,446 --> 00:25:31,147
Hey, man, and welcome
back to "Crisis Aftermath",
588
00:25:31,148 --> 00:25:34,083
broadcasting from the
heart of Los Angeles 69.
589
00:25:34,084 --> 00:25:35,803
I'm your host Kevin Smith.
590
00:25:35,804 --> 00:25:39,073
Joining us now, the man
who played Alexander Knox
591
00:25:39,074 --> 00:25:41,497
in Tim Burton's "Batman",
it's Robert Wuhl!
592
00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:44,174
- How are you, sir? Such a pleasure, man.
- How you doing, buddy?
593
00:25:44,175 --> 00:25:45,997
We got to see you in
the first installment
594
00:25:45,998 --> 00:25:47,316
of "Crisis On Infinite Earths",
595
00:25:47,317 --> 00:25:50,217
but it seems you were
nothinged by an anti-matter ray.
596
00:25:50,218 --> 00:25:53,253
- Yeah. Just one line.
- Yeah.
597
00:25:53,254 --> 00:25:54,655
It was great fun, though,
598
00:25:54,656 --> 00:25:55,923
I have to tell you, I had a blast.
599
00:25:55,924 --> 00:25:58,125
They asked me to do it.
I didn't think twice.
600
00:25:58,126 --> 00:25:59,326
I just, "Yeah, I can do it".
601
00:25:59,327 --> 00:26:01,161
- It's been 30 years, which is...
- It's been a minute.
602
00:26:01,162 --> 00:26:02,763
And you were there for the laying
603
00:26:02,764 --> 00:26:05,987
- of the track in 1989 with Tim Burton's "Batman".
- Yeah.
604
00:26:05,988 --> 00:26:07,801
- Right.
- That is the model
605
00:26:07,802 --> 00:26:11,070
from which most superhero movies
are kind of cut at this point.
606
00:26:11,071 --> 00:26:13,206
When you guys were there
607
00:26:13,207 --> 00:26:16,209
did you ever imagine one day
there'd be a universe of movies
608
00:26:16,210 --> 00:26:17,544
with a lot of people in costume?
609
00:26:17,545 --> 00:26:20,046
Batman makes sense, because
they had done the TV show.
610
00:26:20,047 --> 00:26:22,621
Did you foresee
superheroes, like, in legion?
611
00:26:22,622 --> 00:26:24,217
Well, not to this extent.
612
00:26:24,218 --> 00:26:27,253
Look, I knew I was a
part of something special.
613
00:26:27,254 --> 00:26:29,055
First of all, going to Pinewood studios
614
00:26:29,056 --> 00:26:32,058
and seeing Tim Burton's
Gotham City every day
615
00:26:32,059 --> 00:26:33,426
- was really cool.
- Right.
616
00:26:33,427 --> 00:26:35,562
Because I was not a big
fan of the TV series.
617
00:26:35,563 --> 00:26:36,997
- It was too jokey for me.
- Right.
618
00:26:36,998 --> 00:26:38,534
And people were worried.
619
00:26:38,535 --> 00:26:40,983
A, it was the most expensive
movie ever made up to that point.
620
00:26:40,984 --> 00:26:44,269
B, it was much darker than
anybody expected it to be.
621
00:26:44,270 --> 00:26:47,573
And C, are you old enough to remember
622
00:26:47,574 --> 00:26:50,207
the backlash of Michael Keaton?
623
00:26:50,208 --> 00:26:52,177
There was... it was...
people were so mad,
624
00:26:52,178 --> 00:26:53,522
it broke the Internet
625
00:26:53,523 --> 00:26:55,915
- and there was no Internet.
- Exactly. I mean, exactly.
626
00:26:55,916 --> 00:26:58,584
Michael Keaton being announced
as Batman, we look back...
627
00:26:58,585 --> 00:27:00,619
- We were like, "Mr. Mom?"
- Exactly.
628
00:27:00,620 --> 00:27:03,188
It was Mr. Mom, or in
London it was Mr. Mum.
629
00:27:03,189 --> 00:27:06,358
And then, of course,
you had Jack, you know,
630
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,360
which was a whole
different kettle of fish.
631
00:27:08,361 --> 00:27:11,398
Right. I remember that
movie so well, incredibly well.
632
00:27:11,399 --> 00:27:13,145
But I remember the trailer, too.
633
00:27:13,146 --> 00:27:15,005
The dry trailer.
The first trailer they did,
634
00:27:15,006 --> 00:27:17,443
which had almost no score.
It was just a series of images.
635
00:27:17,444 --> 00:27:18,870
And you have the...
636
00:27:18,871 --> 00:27:21,706
"Detective, is there a six-foot
bat in Gotham City?" line.
637
00:27:21,707 --> 00:27:23,980
The moment resonates with me.
638
00:27:23,981 --> 00:27:26,044
When they called you up for Crisis,
639
00:27:26,045 --> 00:27:27,658
and they're like, "We
want you to come back
640
00:27:27,659 --> 00:27:28,880
to play Alexander Knox",
641
00:27:28,881 --> 00:27:31,083
do you even bother going
back to look at the movie?
642
00:27:31,084 --> 00:27:33,118
"What did I do 30, 40 years ago?"
643
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,774
Actually, it was funny,
because I had tuned it in.
644
00:27:35,775 --> 00:27:37,587
It was on one of the
channels, and I hadn't seen it
645
00:27:37,588 --> 00:27:38,890
in about 10, 15 years.
646
00:27:38,891 --> 00:27:40,559
And I watched about an hour of it,
647
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,227
and, yes, it was dark,
648
00:27:42,228 --> 00:27:43,895
- but it was also fun.
- Very much.
649
00:27:43,896 --> 00:27:45,797
The first ones were fun, more so than...
650
00:27:45,798 --> 00:27:47,999
Jack Nicholson brought a lot
of fun because he's Joker,
651
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,217
- in particular, yeah.
- The Prince songs.
652
00:27:50,218 --> 00:27:51,775
- The Prince, yes.
- The, uh...
653
00:27:51,776 --> 00:27:53,605
you know, so it was fun.
654
00:27:53,606 --> 00:27:56,808
You gotta remember,
too, in terms of 1989,
655
00:27:56,809 --> 00:27:59,577
when they did this
incarnation of Batman,
656
00:27:59,578 --> 00:28:01,731
Batman fans were, like, "Finally.
657
00:28:01,732 --> 00:28:03,047
This is the real Batman".
658
00:28:03,048 --> 00:28:05,255
- He ain't jokey. He's dark.
- That's right.
659
00:28:05,256 --> 00:28:07,118
This is dark. Okay.
660
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,687
Not only did we get to
revisit Tim Burton's "Batman",
661
00:28:09,688 --> 00:28:12,356
we also got another chance
to see Tom Welling
662
00:28:12,357 --> 00:28:14,358
as Clark Kent from "Smallville".
663
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,527
But anyone expecting
him to wear the cape
664
00:28:16,528 --> 00:28:19,597
was in for a bit of a surprise,
including Lex Luthor.
665
00:28:19,598 --> 00:28:22,876
You gave up your powers?
666
00:28:22,877 --> 00:28:24,367
Can't say I miss these chats.
667
00:28:24,368 --> 00:28:27,403
You were basically a god. You could fly.
668
00:28:27,404 --> 00:28:29,740
You could see through walls.
669
00:28:29,741 --> 00:28:32,843
You had super strength.
670
00:28:32,844 --> 00:28:35,144
You're kidding me.
671
00:28:36,952 --> 00:28:39,119
That is worth more than any superpower.
672
00:28:41,238 --> 00:28:43,695
Hey, Clark, the girls want to
show you what they made.
673
00:28:43,696 --> 00:28:45,596
I think it's time for you to...
674
00:28:46,758 --> 00:28:48,525
Still stronger.
675
00:28:48,526 --> 00:28:51,561
Ahh! That's dope, man.
676
00:28:51,562 --> 00:28:53,697
Marc, how'd you pick
the cameos for this?
677
00:28:53,698 --> 00:28:55,431
Because there have been DC
678
00:28:55,432 --> 00:28:58,433
movies and shows over history
679
00:28:58,434 --> 00:28:59,735
and you've pulled from a lot of them.
680
00:28:59,736 --> 00:29:02,038
How do you do it? How
do you figure it out?
681
00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:03,452
We just had a list.
682
00:29:03,453 --> 00:29:05,143
And we got so lucky.
683
00:29:05,144 --> 00:29:06,846
I remember saying to the writers
684
00:29:06,847 --> 00:29:08,337
as we were working on this I said,
685
00:29:08,338 --> 00:29:10,179
if we have a list of
a hundred cool things
686
00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:11,513
and we only do 50,
687
00:29:11,514 --> 00:29:13,149
then we've still done 50 cool things.
688
00:29:13,150 --> 00:29:14,850
It's just a cool thing, man.
689
00:29:14,851 --> 00:29:16,368
It's, once again, fan service.
690
00:29:16,369 --> 00:29:18,754
I loved seeing all
the different Supermans
691
00:29:18,755 --> 00:29:20,355
because I feel like there's
so many different ways
692
00:29:20,356 --> 00:29:21,791
that you can play him.
693
00:29:21,792 --> 00:29:23,192
And he, wrongly, I think,
694
00:29:23,193 --> 00:29:25,460
gets put in this singular box
695
00:29:25,461 --> 00:29:27,590
and people think that he's simple.
696
00:29:27,591 --> 00:29:28,863
But he's farthest thing.
697
00:29:28,864 --> 00:29:30,765
- He's such a complex character.
- He's tough to write for.
698
00:29:30,766 --> 00:29:33,876
- True.
- Like, most writers will dismiss it and be like,
699
00:29:33,877 --> 00:29:35,036
"How do you write for a guy
700
00:29:35,037 --> 00:29:36,687
that's got all the powers in the world?"
701
00:29:36,688 --> 00:29:38,473
- But that's kind of the challenge.
- Yeah.
702
00:29:38,474 --> 00:29:41,142
And that "Smallville" moment
was kind of everything,
703
00:29:41,143 --> 00:29:44,076
particularly for old-school
"Smallville" fans who were there.
704
00:29:44,077 --> 00:29:45,378
Before there was an Arrowverse,
705
00:29:45,379 --> 00:29:47,475
there was a "Smallville"
series that went for, what,
706
00:29:47,476 --> 00:29:49,171
- a decade or 11 years?
- Yeah, a decade.
707
00:29:49,172 --> 00:29:52,887
And what was so great
about Tom's scene in Crisis
708
00:29:52,888 --> 00:29:56,227
was it was written by
Don and Holly Whitehead,
709
00:29:56,228 --> 00:29:57,868
who wrote on the original "Smallville".
710
00:29:57,869 --> 00:30:00,444
- No.
- So, they obviously know the characters,
711
00:30:00,445 --> 00:30:01,563
and this was an opportunity
712
00:30:01,564 --> 00:30:03,747
for us to check back
in with Lois and Clark
713
00:30:03,748 --> 00:30:05,566
and see what has basically happened
714
00:30:05,567 --> 00:30:07,352
over the intervening ten years.
715
00:30:07,353 --> 00:30:09,904
Oh, it was beautiful, man.
It was an excellent touch,
716
00:30:09,905 --> 00:30:11,767
as well as including this man.
717
00:30:11,768 --> 00:30:14,047
I want to thank Robert
Wuhl for joining us.
718
00:30:14,048 --> 00:30:15,635
- Excellent. Excellent.
- Thank you, man.
719
00:30:15,636 --> 00:30:18,322
Excellent talking to you. Thanks
for being involved in this.
720
00:30:18,323 --> 00:30:19,948
- My pleasure.
- It was another bright moment
721
00:30:19,949 --> 00:30:22,250
of my childhood to
come back to life, man.
722
00:30:22,251 --> 00:30:23,584
It just delivered.
723
00:30:23,585 --> 00:30:24,919
Fan service to the highest degree.
724
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,254
When we come back,
725
00:30:26,255 --> 00:30:28,685
we've got the exclusive
world premiere teaser
726
00:30:28,686 --> 00:30:31,724
for CW's newest superhero Stargirl.
727
00:30:31,725 --> 00:30:34,364
Great Caesar's Ghost, it's
time for a commercial break.
728
00:30:34,365 --> 00:30:35,431
We'll be right back.
729
00:30:48,078 --> 00:30:50,427
Hey, man, welcome back
to "Crisis Aftermath",
730
00:30:50,428 --> 00:30:51,647
your one-stop shop
731
00:30:51,648 --> 00:30:53,883
for all things "Crisis
On Infinite Earths".
732
00:30:53,884 --> 00:30:55,175
I'm Kal-El Smith.
733
00:30:55,176 --> 00:30:57,828
Next year will not only be
bringing us the resolution
734
00:30:57,829 --> 00:30:59,530
to "Crisis On Infinite Earths",
735
00:30:59,531 --> 00:31:01,679
it'll also be giving us a brand-new hero
736
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,300
by the name of Stargirl.
737
00:31:03,301 --> 00:31:06,194
And here's the creator
of Stargirl, Geoff Johns.
738
00:31:06,195 --> 00:31:07,605
- How are you, sir?
- Hey, buddy. How you doing?
739
00:31:07,606 --> 00:31:09,206
- Excellent seeing you, man.
- You, too.
740
00:31:09,207 --> 00:31:12,175
Geoff, you ran DC comics for
years, for those that don't know.
741
00:31:12,176 --> 00:31:13,878
You've worked on the movies.
742
00:31:13,879 --> 00:31:16,614
Stargirl may not be
a household name yet.
743
00:31:16,615 --> 00:31:19,161
Tell them who she is and
why she's special to you.
744
00:31:19,162 --> 00:31:22,252
Well, she's the first character
I ever wrote in comic books,
745
00:31:22,253 --> 00:31:24,821
and I created her in my
very first comic book.
746
00:31:24,822 --> 00:31:27,957
But she is Courtney Whitmore,
747
00:31:27,958 --> 00:31:31,128
and she's this teenager
whose mom remarries
748
00:31:31,129 --> 00:31:33,930
and they move from L.A. to Nebraska.
749
00:31:33,931 --> 00:31:35,932
And there she discovers
that her new stepfather,
750
00:31:35,933 --> 00:31:38,601
Pat Dugan, played by Luke Wilson,
751
00:31:38,602 --> 00:31:40,937
was a sidekick to a superhero
when he was younger.
752
00:31:40,938 --> 00:31:42,911
And she finds his partner's old stuff
753
00:31:42,912 --> 00:31:43,974
and goes for a joyride
754
00:31:43,975 --> 00:31:45,975
and gets involved in
the superhero world.
755
00:31:45,976 --> 00:31:47,430
And this character
has been close to you.
756
00:31:47,431 --> 00:31:49,179
For how many years now, you've
been working on Stargirl?
757
00:31:49,180 --> 00:31:51,290
- 20 years.
- What's it like to bring it
758
00:31:51,291 --> 00:31:54,461
from the two-dimensional page
to the three-dimensional screen?
759
00:31:54,462 --> 00:31:56,994
Oh, it's amazing. I mean,
she was inspired by my late sister,
760
00:31:56,995 --> 00:31:58,585
so it means a lot to me personally
761
00:31:58,586 --> 00:32:01,723
to have her come off the page
and onto the screen like this
762
00:32:01,724 --> 00:32:03,426
and to work with the crew
and the cast that I did.
763
00:32:03,427 --> 00:32:04,483
It was amazing.
764
00:32:04,484 --> 00:32:08,364
It's so nice to see
you still in the space
765
00:32:08,365 --> 00:32:11,067
and working on something that
means so damn much to you, man.
766
00:32:11,068 --> 00:32:14,403
- Dani?
- Okay, so, when you were looking at casting,
767
00:32:14,404 --> 00:32:16,738
what were some of the key
things that were important to you
768
00:32:16,739 --> 00:32:17,940
that they embodied...
769
00:32:17,941 --> 00:32:19,508
the actress embodied the character?
770
00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:21,843
Well, I looked at so many
771
00:32:21,844 --> 00:32:24,280
casting tapes and people that came in.
772
00:32:24,281 --> 00:32:26,588
And it was actually Brec Bassinger,
773
00:32:26,589 --> 00:32:28,583
who plays Stargirl... she's amazing.
774
00:32:28,584 --> 00:32:30,975
Right when I saw her tape,
I was like, "That's her".
775
00:32:30,976 --> 00:32:32,928
- Really? Just with the tape?
- Yeah, it was done.
776
00:32:32,929 --> 00:32:33,955
- Yeah.
- Self-tapes work.
777
00:32:33,956 --> 00:32:35,590
- Okay, good to know.
- They do, and then...
778
00:32:35,591 --> 00:32:37,958
Did it have anything to do with
her alliterative superhero name?
779
00:32:37,959 --> 00:32:39,760
- Brec Bassinger?
- Yeah, she sounds like...
780
00:32:39,761 --> 00:32:41,329
Well, it's a great superhero name,
781
00:32:41,330 --> 00:32:43,668
but she actually is a superhero to me.
782
00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:46,580
She's an amazing actor to work with.
783
00:32:46,581 --> 00:32:48,710
She embodies, like, a heroic nature.
784
00:32:48,711 --> 00:32:52,004
She's, you know, super nice
and incredibly talented.
785
00:32:52,005 --> 00:32:55,224
But it was humor and heart
that came through on that tape.
786
00:32:55,225 --> 00:32:56,862
And then she came in
and read for us live,
787
00:32:56,863 --> 00:32:59,375
and it just confirmed
that everything I felt.
788
00:32:59,376 --> 00:33:01,615
But it was... It was
immediate. It was not...
789
00:33:01,616 --> 00:33:04,718
- Wow.
- And I'd looked at and seen so many people.
790
00:33:04,719 --> 00:33:07,488
And, obviously, I was gonna be
very particular about this role.
791
00:33:07,489 --> 00:33:09,803
- It's so close to you.
- Yeah.
792
00:33:09,804 --> 00:33:11,992
For Pat Dugan, played by Luke Wilson,
793
00:33:11,993 --> 00:33:15,996
I wrote the part for him. I
didn't know him, but I wrote...
794
00:33:15,997 --> 00:33:18,665
When I wrote Pat Dugan,
I thought of Luke Wilson.
795
00:33:18,666 --> 00:33:20,066
And I wrote him a letter,
796
00:33:20,067 --> 00:33:21,401
and I said, "Hey, I wrote this for you".
797
00:33:21,402 --> 00:33:23,715
- And we met and he loved it.
- You scored him.
798
00:33:23,716 --> 00:33:25,772
Look at you. Vision
quest. Well done, man.
799
00:33:25,773 --> 00:33:27,073
So you've been living with this thing
800
00:33:27,074 --> 00:33:28,834
for about how long now? A
year you been working on it?
801
00:33:28,835 --> 00:33:32,248
Yeah, we've been working
on it since over a year now.
802
00:33:32,249 --> 00:33:34,147
And it's all done and ready to go,
803
00:33:34,148 --> 00:33:35,414
and I'm anxious for people to see it.
804
00:33:35,415 --> 00:33:37,137
I know, and you've seen so much of it.
805
00:33:37,138 --> 00:33:38,764
We've seen absolutely nothing.
806
00:33:38,765 --> 00:33:40,419
But now, right now,
807
00:33:40,420 --> 00:33:42,426
we're gonna see the world premiere,
808
00:33:42,427 --> 00:33:45,277
a first look at CW's "Stargirl".
809
00:33:45,278 --> 00:33:46,759
Check it out.
810
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,061
Starman, are you there? Starman?
811
00:33:53,847 --> 00:33:56,314
The Justice Society must live on.
812
00:33:56,315 --> 00:33:59,683
Someone with honor must carry the torch.
813
00:34:01,087 --> 00:34:02,621
I know this has been difficult,
814
00:34:02,622 --> 00:34:04,823
with the move, and a new stepfather,
815
00:34:04,824 --> 00:34:06,892
but we're gonna make a good life.
816
00:34:06,893 --> 00:34:09,693
Hey! Sorry, that's just real delicate.
817
00:34:14,367 --> 00:34:16,801
What are you?
818
00:34:16,802 --> 00:34:18,470
It's the cosmic staff.
819
00:34:18,471 --> 00:34:20,504
It's extremely temperamental.
820
00:34:22,475 --> 00:34:26,077
The staff's not supposed to
work for anyone except Starman.
821
00:34:26,078 --> 00:34:28,712
This has to be the
reason the staff lit up.
822
00:34:31,166 --> 00:34:32,465
The staff chose me...
823
00:34:33,753 --> 00:34:35,253
... and I choose you.
824
00:34:35,254 --> 00:34:37,821
I never thought there'd
be another Starman.
825
00:34:39,759 --> 00:34:41,693
Stargirl.
826
00:34:41,694 --> 00:34:44,929
"Stargirl", new series
coming spring 2020
827
00:34:44,930 --> 00:34:46,664
on The CW.
828
00:34:46,665 --> 00:34:49,314
You know what, man? I have a child,
829
00:34:49,315 --> 00:34:52,761
and I saw that child get born,
and that's better than that.
830
00:34:52,762 --> 00:34:54,982
That is incredible, man!
831
00:34:54,983 --> 00:34:56,856
- I can't believe it. Congratulations.
- Thanks.
832
00:34:56,857 --> 00:34:58,754
It must feel amazing to
see it go from the page
833
00:34:58,755 --> 00:35:00,655
- up on to a real show. You rock, man.
- Very exciting.
834
00:35:00,656 --> 00:35:01,889
- Thanks, buddy.
- Well done.
835
00:35:01,890 --> 00:35:04,258
Check out "Stargirl"
when it drops next year.
836
00:35:04,259 --> 00:35:06,501
Thanks, Geoff, for stopping by.
837
00:35:06,502 --> 00:35:08,496
You wanna get hugged to death by Beebo?
838
00:35:08,497 --> 00:35:11,766
Then don't go anywhere. Stick
around for more "Crisis Aftermath".
839
00:35:11,767 --> 00:35:13,667
My Lord, that looks phenomenal.
840
00:35:25,616 --> 00:35:28,431
Holy moly! Welcome back
to "Crisis Aftermath".
841
00:35:28,432 --> 00:35:30,810
This show's almost
over, man, but fear not.
842
00:35:30,811 --> 00:35:32,511
there are still two more hours
843
00:35:32,512 --> 00:35:34,046
of "Crisis On Infinite Earths"
844
00:35:34,047 --> 00:35:36,749
starting 8 PM on January 14th.
845
00:35:36,750 --> 00:35:39,151
And I have no idea
what's gonna happen, man.
846
00:35:39,152 --> 00:35:40,886
So to help us look into the future
847
00:35:40,887 --> 00:35:44,093
here's "Legends of Tomorrow"
showrunner Keto Shimizu.
848
00:35:44,094 --> 00:35:46,158
- How are you, Keto?
- I'm doing great. How are you?
849
00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:47,693
Right on, man. I'm so good.
850
00:35:47,694 --> 00:35:49,496
We're getting to the end of
this, but we need your help.
851
00:35:49,497 --> 00:35:51,096
So, to recap, kids,
852
00:35:51,097 --> 00:35:52,931
the Multiverse is gone.
853
00:35:52,932 --> 00:35:55,200
Right? The Anti-Monitor
seems to have won.
854
00:35:55,201 --> 00:35:56,535
The final installment
855
00:35:56,536 --> 00:35:59,171
of Crisis happens during
"Legends Of Tomorrow".
856
00:35:59,172 --> 00:36:01,940
What can you tell us
about the Legends' role
857
00:36:01,941 --> 00:36:03,643
in this Arrowverse epic?
858
00:36:03,644 --> 00:36:05,444
The Captain, Sara Lance,
859
00:36:05,445 --> 00:36:07,690
has a huge role to
play in the final hour.
860
00:36:07,691 --> 00:36:11,579
It's really when she comes
into her own as leader
861
00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:15,453
of all of these amazing heroes
862
00:36:15,454 --> 00:36:17,923
to really pull everybody together
863
00:36:17,924 --> 00:36:21,046
and, you know, honor
everything that's happened
864
00:36:21,047 --> 00:36:23,580
both in her life and
in this crazy crossover,
865
00:36:23,581 --> 00:36:27,655
and steer everybody into the final
confrontation with the Anti-Monitor.
866
00:36:27,656 --> 00:36:29,660
It's really epic and really fun.
867
00:36:29,661 --> 00:36:30,969
That's why I love that she was named
868
00:36:30,970 --> 00:36:32,137
the Paragon of Destiny,
869
00:36:32,138 --> 00:36:33,972
because even in the last episode
870
00:36:33,973 --> 00:36:35,307
where she was talking with Oliver
871
00:36:35,308 --> 00:36:36,541
and he was trying to apologize,
872
00:36:36,542 --> 00:36:38,811
and she had like accepted
her destiny so much.
873
00:36:38,812 --> 00:36:40,979
And she was trying to tell
him, "No, I wouldn't be this
874
00:36:40,980 --> 00:36:42,213
if that hadn't happened".
875
00:36:42,214 --> 00:36:44,648
But she also brings
that out in other people.
876
00:36:44,649 --> 00:36:47,251
Like, she has this band
of misfits that I think,
877
00:36:47,252 --> 00:36:49,787
you know, people don't
necessarily have faith in.
878
00:36:49,788 --> 00:36:53,619
And she's allowed them to accept
all their flaws as their destiny.
879
00:36:53,620 --> 00:36:55,259
Let's talk about the
Legends for a second.
880
00:36:55,260 --> 00:36:56,994
This is the show in the Arrowverse
881
00:36:56,995 --> 00:37:00,454
that seems to have grown
the most and evolved the most
882
00:37:00,455 --> 00:37:03,100
from the original incarnation to now.
883
00:37:03,101 --> 00:37:04,969
Like, it was always kind of a fun idea,
884
00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:08,272
but you guys started
leaning into the fun
885
00:37:08,273 --> 00:37:10,908
of a comic book universe
in a big bad way about,
886
00:37:10,909 --> 00:37:12,276
- what, season three?
- Two.
887
00:37:12,277 --> 00:37:15,612
Part way through two, and then
three, it really, really...
888
00:37:15,613 --> 00:37:17,413
- we just went crazy.
- And then found its...
889
00:37:17,414 --> 00:37:19,995
Really found it. So of the shows,
890
00:37:19,996 --> 00:37:22,552
they definitely have the
more humorous sensibility.
891
00:37:22,553 --> 00:37:25,878
How does that blend in to
"Crisis On Infinite Earths"?
892
00:37:25,879 --> 00:37:28,791
Honestly, I think the humor
that the Legends bring
893
00:37:28,792 --> 00:37:32,829
to all of the hours is
a nice sort of breath
894
00:37:32,830 --> 00:37:34,965
of fresh air in a way,
'cause, you know, it's...
895
00:37:34,966 --> 00:37:36,299
there's a lot going on.
896
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:38,467
There's a lot of plot
that's being driven.
897
00:37:38,468 --> 00:37:40,236
There's, like, 86 cast members.
898
00:37:40,237 --> 00:37:42,905
Exactly, there's so many
people, so many heroes,
899
00:37:42,906 --> 00:37:47,049
and there are so many intense,
emotional conversations happening
900
00:37:47,050 --> 00:37:49,998
that it helps to have
just that sort of lightness
901
00:37:49,999 --> 00:37:52,181
peppered in to sort of
bring it up and be like,
902
00:37:52,182 --> 00:37:54,917
"Oh, yeah, this is
also super crazy fun".
903
00:37:54,918 --> 00:37:57,019
And, you know, these characters help
904
00:37:57,020 --> 00:37:59,221
bring that out of other people as well.
905
00:37:59,222 --> 00:38:02,557
Also, where can we read
Rory's romance novel?
906
00:38:02,558 --> 00:38:04,226
- Yeah.
- Is that out?
907
00:38:04,227 --> 00:38:06,202
That is a missed marketing tie-in.
908
00:38:06,203 --> 00:38:08,430
- I know. I don't know how...
- Somebody's fan fiction.
909
00:38:08,431 --> 00:38:09,932
There aren't enough Beebos in the store
910
00:38:09,933 --> 00:38:12,267
and this book does not
exist in the real world.
911
00:38:12,268 --> 00:38:13,467
Both these things are true.
912
00:38:13,468 --> 00:38:15,103
For the fans. You gotta
do it for the fans.
913
00:38:15,104 --> 00:38:16,537
This show has a lot of fans
914
00:38:16,538 --> 00:38:18,606
and we have fan questions coming in
915
00:38:18,607 --> 00:38:19,807
from the Twitterverse, man.
916
00:38:19,808 --> 00:38:22,009
MeliGrayce has this question.
917
00:38:22,010 --> 00:38:24,133
_
918
00:38:24,134 --> 00:38:26,157
_
919
00:38:26,158 --> 00:38:27,981
_
920
00:38:27,982 --> 00:38:30,406
_
921
00:38:30,407 --> 00:38:31,931
_
922
00:38:31,932 --> 00:38:35,089
- Keto?
- Well, it's actually really interesting.
923
00:38:35,090 --> 00:38:37,725
We decided that because
924
00:38:37,726 --> 00:38:40,620
our season is coming after
925
00:38:40,621 --> 00:38:43,597
this incredible, massive event,
926
00:38:43,598 --> 00:38:46,967
that we would actually
lean into that in our season
927
00:38:46,968 --> 00:38:52,205
and let the fallout from
what happens in Crisis...
928
00:38:52,206 --> 00:38:54,141
- Nice.
- ... really affect our season.
929
00:38:54,142 --> 00:38:56,310
It affects it emotionally with Sara
930
00:38:56,311 --> 00:38:58,377
going forward in a big way.
931
00:38:58,378 --> 00:39:01,081
But also our mythology is directly tied
932
00:39:01,082 --> 00:39:04,651
to the fallout from the
results of the Crisis.
933
00:39:04,652 --> 00:39:08,155
Marc, before we get out of
here, as one of the architects
934
00:39:08,156 --> 00:39:09,923
of all this, you got information
935
00:39:09,924 --> 00:39:11,791
about what's gonna happen in 2020.
936
00:39:11,792 --> 00:39:13,427
Give us a little something, man.
937
00:39:13,428 --> 00:39:15,279
Something to hold us
over for the holidays.
938
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,399
I'll say a lot of, you know,
your big questions get answered.
939
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,101
I think there's some
really great surprises,
940
00:39:22,102 --> 00:39:23,770
still some wonderful moments,
941
00:39:23,771 --> 00:39:25,972
some wonderful cameos still yet to come.
942
00:39:25,973 --> 00:39:29,739
And probably one of the
biggest, most epic fights
943
00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:31,912
that we've ever done
on any of the shows,
944
00:39:31,913 --> 00:39:33,381
certainly in any of the crossovers.
945
00:39:33,382 --> 00:39:35,448
So you got to check it out January 14th.
946
00:39:35,449 --> 00:39:36,639
I'm gonna be there, man.
947
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,952
I want to thank you for
building the universe
948
00:39:38,953 --> 00:39:40,186
that we all get to enjoy,
949
00:39:40,187 --> 00:39:41,454
some of us get to play in.
950
00:39:41,455 --> 00:39:42,922
I've played in it from time to time
951
00:39:42,923 --> 00:39:44,924
and I wouldn't have gotten to
direct a "Flash" or "Supergirl"
952
00:39:44,925 --> 00:39:46,292
had there not been an "Arrow", man.
953
00:39:46,293 --> 00:39:48,294
So you guys engineered something special
954
00:39:48,295 --> 00:39:49,796
that has trickled down,
955
00:39:49,797 --> 00:39:51,590
and now it's gonna
live for all eternity.
956
00:39:51,591 --> 00:39:53,566
I have a feeling something big
957
00:39:53,567 --> 00:39:55,468
is gonna happen to Oliver Queen in a way
958
00:39:55,469 --> 00:39:57,026
that we'll carry him with us
959
00:39:57,027 --> 00:39:58,748
in our hearts forever
and stuff like that.
960
00:39:58,749 --> 00:40:00,772
I can't wait to see
what happens next year.
961
00:40:00,773 --> 00:40:02,475
I don't want to live
through these holidays.
962
00:40:02,476 --> 00:40:04,543
I just want to go to
sleep, wake up January...
963
00:40:04,544 --> 00:40:05,878
- what's the date?
- January 14th.
964
00:40:05,879 --> 00:40:07,713
14th, that's gonna be my Christmas.
965
00:40:07,714 --> 00:40:10,016
Man, I want to thank my panel,
966
00:40:10,017 --> 00:40:11,683
my special guests, and most of all,
967
00:40:11,684 --> 00:40:13,952
I want to thank the fans.
That's you folks at home, man.
968
00:40:13,953 --> 00:40:15,154
This is all for you.
969
00:40:15,155 --> 00:40:17,656
As you can hear, a lot of
fan service at work here
970
00:40:17,657 --> 00:40:19,425
and there's still lots more to come.
971
00:40:19,426 --> 00:40:21,801
Can our Paragons save the Multiverse?
972
00:40:21,802 --> 00:40:24,196
We're gonna find out. We're
gonna find out all the answers
973
00:40:24,197 --> 00:40:27,133
in the final two hours of
"Crisis On Infinite Earths"
974
00:40:27,134 --> 00:40:29,167
airing January 14th
975
00:40:29,168 --> 00:40:31,169
at 8 PM on The CW.
976
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Man, I'm Kevin Smith.
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Thanks for watching "Crisis Aftermath"
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