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- [Tony] Tonight on "The Proof
is Out There: Alien Edition".

Are government officials
keeping secrets about UAPs?

- There's been a
disinformation campaign

in place for the last 50 years.

- [Tony] Why did the
White House order

a UAP shot down over Lake Huron?

- The military doesn't
shoot things out

of the sky that it doesn't
perceive as a possible threat.

- [Tony] A strange
craft is spotted near

an Air Force base.

- [Man] What the ****
is that?

- [Tony] Is the military

secretly transporting
alien technology?

- We're seeing something

that we weren't meant to see.

- [Tony] And another
Tic Tac sighting,

almost 20 years after
the Nimitz encounter.

What does the Pentagon know
about this UAP hotspot?

- You actually
have whistleblowers

from the US Navy
coming out and

talking about some
of their experiences.

- [Tony] With UAP reports
at an all-time high,

we're examining the most

compelling evidence
caught on camera.

Tonight's focus,
classified UAP cover-ups.

Our experts will
analyze the evidence

and then pass a verdict.

- [Man] It's a splash
- [Man 2] Splash.

- There were a lot of people

kind of speculating
that this was a cover-up.

- "The Proof" starts now.

[upbeat music]

- Good evening and welcome to
"The Proof is Out There".

Recently, UAPs have
become the subject

of congressional hearings,
government studies

and whistleblower claims.

But for decades before this,
official answers were scarce.

And that silence fed
a growing suspicion

that the government knew
more than it was saying.

- The American people
largely believe

that the government

has actively covered up
the truth about UAPs.

- [Tony] So when
did this all start?

Many believe it all goes back
to one incident, Roswell.

It's July, 1947.

Something crashes in the desert
near Roswell, New Mexico.

What was it? Well, it
depends on who you ask.

- The initial report
was that the military

had found a flying disc.

So it was picked up by
newspapers across the country.

Then, pretty much immediately,

they retracted their
story and said it

was a weather balloon.

And the change in the story
led some people to think

that there was a little
something fishy going on.

- [Tony] Many people
believe the Roswell incident

was a cover-up.

And as UFO reports increased,

so did the suspicion that
the government knew more

than it was letting on.

- The Air Force has
been accused from time

to time of hiding
information about the UFO.

What do you have to say
to that kind of evidence?

- Well, these charges
are absolutely untrue.

- There's nothing to hide?
- There's nothing to hide

at all.

- [Tony] Nearly 70
years after Roswell,

New York Times journalist
Leslie Kean uncovered something

that many UAP enthusiasts
had suspected for decades.

- The Pentagon had
a secret program

that started in 2007.

But sources have told me

that there were
programs before that.

- [Tony] The program,
known as AATIP,

or Advanced Aerospace Threat
Identification Program,

had been secretly
investigating UAPs.

Along with the article,

two Department of Defense videos

of unidentified
objects were released.

- [Leslie] As far as I'm aware,

this is the first time
actual government videos

have been released of UFOs.

- [Tony] The article
stopped short

of calling these objects
extraterrestrial,

but in the years that followed,
one man did make that claim.

- I was informed in the
course of my official duties

of a multi-decade
UAP crash retrieval

and reverse engineering program.

- [Tony] David Grusch, former
military intelligence officer

turned Pentagon whistleblower,

came forward in June 2023,

claiming the government
has been running

a secret UFO crash
retrieval program

since at least World War II.

According to Grusch,
the US is in possession

of downed alien
craft, alien corpses,

and the US and other
nations may even

have some kind of ongoing

diplomatic relationship
with aliens.

- Do you believe our government

has made contact with
intelligent extraterrestrials?

- Something I can't
discuss in public setting.

- I believe David's
claims and the fact

that we are covering
extraterrestrial craft

and extraterrestrial bodies

from the general scientific
community and the public

at large, and there's been
a disinformation campaign

in place for the last 50 years.

- It's very interesting
to see someone with such

a credentialed background

as an intelligence officer
make these claims in such

an official manner.

If he was lying, he could
be held criminally liable.

That would suggest to
me that he certainly

is not lying about
what he's saying.

- [Tony] Now Pentagon
whistleblower David Grusch

has claimed the US
government is sitting

on much more UFO evidence
than the handful of videos

that they have
officially released.

Even if that's the case,

what we've seen so far
is pretty compelling,

like this video

that's left top government
investigators stumped.

July 12th, 2022, at an
undisclosed location

in the Middle East.

An American MQ-9 drone
observes a conversation

between two people
on the street below.

As they walk away from a house,

a strange object comes into
the sensor's field of view.

A shiny metallic ball
darts diagonally across

the frame, prompting
the camera to jolt away

from the people and follow
the sphere eastward instead.

The sphere looks to be at
least a few feet across,

and it shoots through the
sky in what appears to be

a straight line.

The grainy video ends with
the sphere in mid-flight

and center frame.

This object took on
greater meaning when AARO,

the All-domain Anomaly
Resolution Office,

presented it to the public.

- Without sufficient data,

we are unable to reach
defendable conclusions that meet

the high scientific standards
we set for resolution.

And I will not close a
case that I cannot defend

the conclusions of.

This is essentially all of
the data we have associated

with this event.

It is going to be
virtually impossible

to fully identify that.

- [Tony] That's right.

Unlike other UAPs
it's looked into,

AARO still considers
this video unresolved.

- Kirkpatrick was tight-lipped

about the exact
origins of this object,

but he did acknowledge
the almost inhuman speeds

at which it travels
and the strange design.

He also identified

the Middle East region
as a hotspot for UAPs.

- [Tony] Considering
the ongoing conflicts

in the region, we have
to wonder if these UFOs

are related to others that
have turned up during wartime.

In 1951, during the Korean War,

a group of American
GIs stationed

near Cheorwon encountered
a mysterious glowing object

that floated to the center

of artillery explosions
but took no damage.

One veteran later claimed
the glowing craft pulsated

and changed colors.

In the following days,

the GIs fell sick
with what some believe

was radiation poisoning.

Some theorize that
this unidentified craft

and the hundreds reported
by US troops since 2021

are attracted to
military targets.

But why?

- [Eric] One explanation

is that they are actually
alien probes measuring

our defensive or
offensive capabilities.

In an optimistic view,

it's possible that they are
simply trying to observe

our behavior and figure out why
we are so often in conflict.

- [Tony] Whatever the reason,

this sphere sighting over
the Middle East appears

to uphold the pattern.

A Pentagon report released
in 2022 found evidence

that UFOs can inflict injuries,
including radiation burns,

paralysis, and brain damage.

So while Kirkpatrick's office
said this object wasn't

an apparent threat, we're
inclined to take another look.

Could this be an
advanced military drone?

- [Lt. Tim] This doesn't match
any type of technology

that we're aware of.

I don't see any obvious
signs of propulsion.

I don't see any wings.

So all the necessary components

for a typical aircraft,

you'll notice we can
see other features

in the terrain, which is below
this object really clearly.

So you would be able
to definitely see

if there were wings,
there were rotors,

any of those features on it.

- [Tony] So it's a
spherical object in the sky

without apparent
means of propulsion.

Could it just be a balloon?

- [Lt. Tim] It certainly could
be a balloon of some sort.

Particularly in the
Middle East there

have been very crude, airborne
improvised explosive devices.

So you attach some sort
of explosive to a balloon

in hopes that it collides
with the aircraft.

The key piece of
missing evidence here

is we would wanna know
the wind direction

and wind speed here.

- [Tony] That info
has been redacted.

Otherwise, we could
determine whether wind

is with or against this object.

And if it's against, then
this can be no balloon.

- [Lt. Tim] I think that's what
makes this interesting

for me because the
Pentagon has listed

this as unidentified,
but they have access

to that information.

So they should have been able

to better narrow down
it being a balloon.

- [Tony] Then could

this really be some
kind of alien probe?

- [Lt. Tim] Though this video is
definitely intriguing,

we also don't see any real
extreme flight characteristics

that require the existence
of aliens or some type

of advanced physics.

- [Tony] That means this
UFO isn't displaying

the hallmarks the US
military has cataloged

on other UFOs, including
instantaneous acceleration,

hypersonic velocities, cloaking
and trans-medium travel,

the ability to fly into
and out of the water.

Nor does it convince
McMillan that UFOs

are particularly interested
in human conflict.

- [Lt. Tim] There are more
pilots being perceptive

of their surroundings
in a war zone.

So I think it gives us
that idea that perhaps UFOs

are interested in human
conflict when, in fact,

what it is is we're
paying more attention

to the skies during
human conflict.

- [Tony] Our verdict?

We're calling this
a possible UFO.

On one hand, it has no
wings or obvious propulsion,

which is very UFO-like.

There is a chance it's a
balloon pushed by a stiff wind,

but you think AARO
would know that by now.

If we get more information,
we'll let you know.

- [Tony] The Roswell incident
helped fuel suspicion

that the government
was hiding something.

In the years that followed,

some UFO researchers claimed

that President
Eisenhower secretly

visited Edwards Air Force Base,

possibly to view
recovered wreckage,

and later even met
with extraterrestrials

in a top-secret meeting
at nearby Holloman.

So could the photograph in
our next story be evidence

of that alleged alien encounter
or merely a coincidence?

It's October 16, 1957.

Ella Louise Fortune, a nurse

at the Mescalero Indian
Reservation in New Mexico,

is driving north on Highway 54

when she sees something
hovering in the sky

over Holloman Air Force
Base in Alamogordo.

She happens to have
her camera with her,

so she pulls the car over
and photographs this.

A glowing, white, elongated,

oval-shaped object is floating
above the desert landscape.

You can see why this
photo caused such a stir.

Just look at how bright it
is, even in broad daylight.

Check out the sharpness
of the edges here, there,

and then you have
this soft wisp.

Is that exhaust? How would you
fake that if you wanted to?

- This photo is a classic

in the UFO community
that most people consider

a genuine photograph
that was not hoaxed.

- [Tony] Not only has the
photo earned a place

in UFO history, it ties into
one of the most astonishing

and durable stories
of the UFO canon,

allegations that Holloman
Air Base was the site

of an interstellar summit
where aliens forged

an alliance with
the US government.

- [MJ] There's a story
that circulates

within UFO circles that
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

secretly met with aliens,

and this alien gets
shuffled into a back room

and the president is flown
in to specifically meet

with this creature.

So we have a lot of
strange stories out there

of secret meetings between
presidents and aliens

from other planets.

- [Tony] Now, according to
some,

during these secret meetings,

President Eisenhower brokered
a deal to allow the aliens

to abduct humans in exchange

for extraterrestrial black
technology that would lead

to developments like
the B-2 stealth bomber.

Is the photo we
have here evidence

of that advanced alien tech?

We asked our experts to decide.

Is it possible that white color

and shape match something
you'd expect to see near

an Air Force base,
namely a parachute?

- [Lt. Tim] Nothing about it is
consistent with a parachute.

In particular, you
don't see a payload.

The shape of it is inconsistent

with what you would expect
for a parachute if it

is being weighted
down by a payload.

- [Tony] Some have speculated
it could be a balloon

or blimp, but McMillan
doesn't see it.

- [Lt. Tim] It doesn't resemble
any obvious shape

of a balloon.

Also, it definitely appears
to be extremely bright,

and so it would have to have
some type of light source.

- [Tony] This thing is
white and in the sky.

Could it just be a cloud?

- It takes very
strong winds to create

that kind of like sharpness
to the edges and creating

the saucer-like look to it

because it doesn't even
match what you would expect

with the upper
band cirrus clouds.

So I don't see this
as a cloud whatsoever.

- [Tony] Instead,
Hoffman believes

with some calculations,

he can narrow down
the possibilities.

- [Rich] It was roughly
around 10,000 feet,

and roughly they assumed
it was 15 miles away.

You do trigonometry.

You're able to determine
that it's roughly just

over a mile long.

- [Tony] If Hoffman's
numbers are correct,

he says we can eliminate
several other possibilities.

- [Rich] I would never go to
the point of saying

that this is a plane.

The size makes no sense.

It's a mile wide,
and it's not a UFO.

No object, especially
one a mile long,

would not have gone
undetected by the people

that are positioned there
monitoring that part of the sky.

- [Tony] So what could it be?

Hoffman says
location is the key.

- [Rich] If there's one
important thing

that you need to know.

Holloman Air Force Base
was to the position

of the witness's left.

The vast majority of this
area you're looking at

is White Sands Missile Range.

The fact that this is
conveniently positioned right

at 10,000 feet would
probably make it very likely

that it's a missile
test of some sort.

- [Tony] McMillan
agrees and believes

the photo reveals
an important clue.

- [Lt. Tim] There appears to
be a contrail behind

the object which suggests
that the object is moving

and leaving a vapor trail
that would be consistent

with solid fuel burning.

- [Tony] A large vapor
trail could also explain

why this object looks a
mile long when in fact

it's much shorter.

- [Lt. Tim] The US at the time.

was engaged in
significant rocket testing

and especially were in the
height of the space race

between the United States
and the Soviet Union.

- [Rich] There were a whole
variety of missiles

that were being tested.

It could have been fired
from an aircraft or something

that would have
created a kind of plume

of smoke like this.

- [Tony] But if this mile long
object is really just

a trail of missile
exhaust, we continue

to ask ourselves, why do
the edges look so distinct?

Not to mention, a speeding
missile doesn't match

the eyewitness story.

This thing had to hang in
the air long enough for Ella

to see it, park her car,
get out, and take a photo.

We can't help but feel
we're still missing a piece

of this puzzle.

Our verdict?
Still an unidentified object.

Our experts bring
up great points,

but even if the contrail
points to a chemical fuel burn

and the missile range was
a short 30 miles away,

the image itself just
doesn't give us enough info

to definitively call it a
missile or anything else.

That keeps it a UFO
in our book, for now.

- [Tony] There's no
public evidence to support

the claim that President
Eisenhower ever saw Roswell

wreckage in 1954.

But whistleblower David
Grusch told Congress

that the government does
have UAPs in its possession.

And he says he knows where.

- Mr. Grusch, finally,
do you believe that our

government is in
possession of UAPs?

- Absolutely, based
on interviewing

over 40 witnesses
over four years.

- And where?
- I know the exact locations

and those locations
were provided

to the Inspector
General and some

of which to the
Intelligence Committees.

- [Tony] So where are they?

Our next video may
provide a clue.

September 2021.

An anonymous source

at a construction site
near Edwards Air Force Base

in California spots an
unusual structure being towed

by a large truck.

- What the...

- [Tony] The video shows

what appears to be
a UFO-like craft

being transported
on a flatbed trailer.

Let's take a closer look.

At first glance, the shape

of this mysterious
object seems reminiscent

of the curved contours
of a B-2 stealth bomber.

But upon closer examination,

it doesn't seem
capable of flight.

People tracked down the
location of the video soon

after it was posted online.

- Internet sleuths
were able to determine

that it was taken
at Skunk Works.

Skunk Works is where
Lockheed Martin

was designing spy planes
back in the '50s and '60s.

So it's possible that
we're seeing something

that we weren't meant to see.

- [Tony] In 2021, former
Nevada Senator Harry Reid,

whose state is home to Area 51,

made an even more shocking claim

that the defense contractors

at Lockheed Martin may also
be in possession of fragments

of a crashed UFO.

- [Amy] A lot of conspiracy
theorists will say

that aliens are drawn

to the desert out in
California or Nevada.

So this is an area where
they will land or will crash.

And that opens the
door for engineers

to then collect them and
then reverse engineer

and understand what technology
aliens are dealing with.

- [Tony] Many believe that one

of these alien
technologies could have led

to the development of what's
known on Earth as meta-metals.

- [Amy] There's a type of
material called meta-metals.

It absorbs light and
electromagnetic radiation

and any kind of radio waves,

which would theoretically
make it almost

an invisible metal.

Because it would be unable
to be seen on radar.

It could even be slightly
invisible to the naked eye

if it's refracting
light in a certain way.

- [Tony] We know that a former
Skunk Works director

has teamed up with a private
research group to study

an exotic metal object

that was recently
purchased for $35,000.

The person who sold

the possible meta-material
claims it came off of a UFO

that crashed in New Mexico's

White Sands Proving
Grounds in 1947.

So, could this footage
show something similar?

After this video is posted,

a reporter asked the Lockheed
Martin executive in charge

of Skunk Works if he was
able to tell us anything

about what we saw.

He simply replied, "I can't."

So the truth may be out there,

but Lockheed Martin
isn't talking.

Let's see if our experts
can crack the case.

- [Lt. Tim] At first glance, it
definitely looks like a UFO.

If we were gonna draw
an alien spacecraft,

we might draw
something like this.

- [Tony] Still,
McMillan has his doubts

that we could be looking
at a recovered UFO.

- [Lt. Tim] One of the first
things that says

that this is probably not
a UFO is if they're going

to move it in the daytime,

they're gonna do it
in a manner where it

is completely sequestered.

- [Tony] So it seems
strange they would transport

a UFO out in the open.

But it sure doesn't
look aerodynamic

or like any sort of aircraft
we fly here on Earth.

And since we can't
test for metametals,

it's hard to confirm
its material.

So then what are
we looking at here?

Mick West spots a detail that
could shed some more light.

- [Nick] This structure
in the background,

it looks like some

kind of perhaps massive
radar installation.

I think it's a big clue

as to what this
facility actually is.

- [Tony] On a hunch, we
geo-located the structure.

Using an open source
intelligence comparison

of the scaffolding,
buildings, and foliage,

it is possible to
pinpoint the exact spot

where this incident took place.

The Helendale Radar
Cross Section Facility.

- The testing facility

is where the military tests

what their planes
look like on radar.

Sometimes they just
build parts of the plane

and they'll look
at it with radars

from different directions.

And they want to see
how much this one part

of the plane
actually contributes

to the radar cross-section.

- [Tony] Based on its shape,

West speculates that
this is the fuselage

of a novel future stealth
fighter with a curved rather

than an angular profile,

and without a tail
section or stabilizers.

Our verdict?

This model certainly
pinged our radar,

but in the end it
was simply a prop

for radar testing
being done in the area.

Military leaks happen
all the time though,

so keep your eyes to the sky

and you might just see something
you weren't supposed to.

Navy aviators from the USS
Nimitz encountered this UFO

about 100 miles off the
coast of California.

That video was shot from
the left wing camera

of an F/A-18 Super Hornet,

and the pilots who saw it
up close say it looked like

a giant Tic Tac.

It produced years
of speculation,

even government hearings.

- I would like to say
that the Tic Tac object

we engaged in 2004 was
far superior to anything

that we had on time, have today,

or are looking to develop
in the next 10 years.

- [Tony] Fravor says
there was no follow-up

after the encounter,
so why the silence?

- Excessive secrecy has led

to grave misdeeds against
loyal civil servants,

military personnel,
and the public,

all to hide the fact that we
are not alone in the cosmos.

- [Tony] And now, another Tic
Tac video has emerged.

It is just past 7 PM
on February 15, 2023,

and the Navy's USS Jackson
combat ship is just off

the coast of San
Diego, California,

not far from the site of
the 2004 Tic Tac encounter

in a special-use airspace
area known as W-291.

- An operations
specialist on board

the ship, Alexandro Wiggins,

observed something
unusual on radar,

and he took to the deck
to make an observation

with the naked eye,

and he witnessed some
kind of structure

or light emanating up
from the waterline.

- Watching this light
emerge from the water

at a distance and
then go into the air

with a solid light, no
blinking or anything,

I've never witnessed
that ever in my life.

- [Mitch] Wiggins went back
inside the control room

to check his radar screen,

where he and other sailors
witnessed four objects,

at which point they
began recording

with the SAFIRE system.

- [Tony] The SAFIRE,
an infrared sensor

that detects heat, focuses
on two of the objects flying

from right to left in
perfect synchronicity.

The monitor punches in
on one of the objects,

revealing the familiar
Tic Tac shape,

apparently hovering
over the ocean.

Moments after the video ends,

Senior Chief Wiggins says
the watch team zooms out

on the monitor just in time

to see all four objects
shoot off simultaneously.

Though odd, the objects
show no hostile intent,

so it goes unreported
until April 2025,

when investigative journalist
Jeremy Corbell gets a hold

of the video and releases it
to massive media coverage.

- [Mitch] The video just
caused astonishment

because these things have
been a repeat presence

in those waters, including
the original Tic Tac video.

And Jeremy Corbell also
released the USS Omaha video,

which captured one of these
objects splashing down.

- What was that?
- It splashed.

- [Tony] In fact,
original reporting

on the History Channel series,

"Unidentified: Inside
America's UFO Investigation",

revealed that the 2004 Tic
Tac was even seen on sonar.

- Sonar said they got a hit.

According to one
of the sonar guys,

they were going 70-plus
knots under the water.

- We've known that the
Navy

has been dealing with
these USOs now for decades.

In fact, there's some
reporting that's come out

where you actually
have whistleblowers

from the US Navy coming
out and talking about some

of their experiences, most
notably the USS Hampton

that was in the late
1990s during an operation

had detected something
moving very, very fast.

And some of the individuals
actually on that submarine

who detected this estimated
the speed was faster

than the speed of sound.

- [Tony] The location
of that incident

has not been disclosed.

But are these repeated
incidents, all

in the same area,

evidence of something
greater than just

a few flying objects?

- [Mitch] These are all just
theories,

but one that makes the
rounds among naval personnel

is the potential existence
of an underwater base

from which these objects
emerge and return to.

It's, of course, just a
speculative hypothesis,

but these objects have
been variously recorded

or witnessed emerging from
the waters off the coast

of San Diego.

The collective details
are just extraordinary.

- [Tony] This new Tic Tac
video hasn't just wowed

the American public.

It was even shared with
Navy aviator David Fravor,

who encountered the first
Tic Tac back in 2004.

He said he was stunned
by the similarities.

Let's see if our experts
have the same reaction.

This was February 2023,

just days after a Chinese
spy balloon crossed America,

setting the nation on edge
and ultimately leading

to a shoot down just
off the East Coast.

Could these be intelligence
gathering inflatables?

- [Rich] I took a look at the
weather on that day,

and you had winds from the
west at about 6 miles an hour.

So if they were balloons,

you would see the balloons
going with the wind

in one direction, and
it doesn't do that.

- [Tony] That still
doesn't rule out

a foreign incursion, though.

We know drones have been an
issue over military bases

and US soil, and the suspicion
is that they are the work

of adversarial nations.

Is this video proof they might
be toying with our Navy, too?

- [Rich] I will point out

that the motions you see
could be done by drones,

including the
synchronicity, but you also

have a situation where
these people described it

as being that they
instantaneously shot off.

And they were talking
about a really,

really incredibly fast speed.

And so that doesn't
sound like a drone.

- [Tony] Since this is
special use airspace,

could these be special aircraft,

perhaps part of a
secret military test?

- Could they be doing a test

that the Jackson
wasn't aware of?

Yeah, maybe.

We have signal
transmedium type things.

Submarine-launched
ballistic missiles do that.

But if it was a missile,
it would be moving fast.

And then the size of that
object would get smaller

and smaller and smaller

and smaller and smaller
until it was gone.

Right? That would have
happened very quickly.

And in this case,
it didn't go away.

- [Tony] With those
possibilities eliminated,

the question becomes,
were these UFOs?

- [Rich] Well, I believe that
they saw the Tic Tac.

Because you had a
very clear observation

by a witness visibly, that
it was being picked up

on radar, it was
also being picked up

in this thermal imaging system.

All those things combined put
it into a very strong case

of being an unknown.

- [Tony] Our verdict?
Genuine UFO's.

Remember, even though

the video mostly
focused on one Tic Tac,

all four of these things
were seen shooting off almost

instantaneously, making them

all unidentified flying objects.

The release of these
Tic Tac videos could be

having an impact.

Recently, the US National
Archives opened the floodgates

on decades' worth of
UFO documentation.

- [Tony] We've seen the military
track strange objects

on video and then let them go.

[pilots shouting]

But over the Great Lakes,

something triggered
an immediate response.

Why?

We don't have any
photos or video,

but a recorded verbal
description of it helped lead

the US president to order
it shot out of the sky.

Have a listen.

It's February 12,
2023, above Lake Huron,

near the Canadian border.

The US military sends two F-16
fighter jets to investigate

a TOI, or Track of Interest.

That's pilot speak for an
airborne object that poses

a potential threat
to national security.

We obtained recordings of
the cockpit conversations

that took place
during this incident.

As the pilots make their
way up to 20,000 feet,

they discuss the mission.

- [Tony] But once they arrive,

what they find is
hard to describe.

- [Tony] Whatever it is,

after meeting with
military experts,

President Biden orders
the craft shot down.

Journalist MJ Banias
recalls following the event

as it unfolded.

- The newsroom kind of erupted

as we were trying to figure
out what was happening.

It was pretty chaotic.

Allegedly, the reason
for shooting it down

was because it posed a
hazard to flight safety.

- [Tony] And Banias says

the speculation immediately
centered around one thing.

- [MJ] This incident
came off the back

of a Chinese spy balloon
that was shot down,

so there was already
heightened stress

that there could be
other spy balloons.

- [Tony] But was
it just a balloon?

Unlike other recent
run-ins with military jets,

like the infamous Tic
Tac and gimbal UAPs,

the government hasn't
released any gun camera videos

of this incident.

US officials are simply calling
it an unidentified object.

- [MJ] There were a lot

of people kind of
speculating online

that this was a cover-up,
that these were actually UFOs.

There were a lot
of people claiming

that this was some
sort of alien invasion.

- [Tony] The US and Canada
would join forces to try

and locate the wreckage,
but none was ever found.

- [MJ] To this day,

no country or organization
has claimed responsibility.

It still remains a
bit of a mystery.

- [Tony] At the time of this
incident,

General Glen VanHerck
was the head of NORAD.

That's the agency responsible

for overseeing North
American airspace.

When the media first asked
him about these events,

he refused to rule out
extraterrestrial forces at play.

That was later walked
back by officials,

but it hasn't prevented

the UFO community from
suspecting a cover-up.

What will our experts think?

Is it possible this
object was another plane?

- Based on what the
pilots are describing,

the object is not
moving very fast at all.

It makes it incredibly
difficult to really get a handle

on it, because any time
you get close to it,

it whizzes past you.

- [Lt. Tim] A plane is gonna
stall out at that speed.

It's not gonna be
able to maintain

that type of slow speed.

So, we can really just
rule out plane easily.

- [Tony] Could this
be some kind of drone?

- [Lt. Tim] The pilots observed
it

at around 20,000 feet,

that it's much higher

than any commercial drones
would be able to achieve

under normal circumstances.

And when you're talking
about military grade

or really professional
grade drones,

when you see they have wings,
they have control surfaces,

so those would be really
easily identifiable.

- [Tony] So what could
drift about 20,000 feet

in the air and isn't a plane?

- [Marc] The first conclusion

that I started
leaning towards was,

is it possible this was another
spy balloon of some kind?

- [Tony] Spy balloons,
like the one from China,

have what's called a payload
attached to the bottom

of the balloon that contains

the actual
surveillance equipment.

But then, D'Antonio says he
hears a clue in the audio

that shuts down his theory.

- [Marc] The pilot said it had
strings hanging down.

What the pilot didn't see
was the small payload.

It tells me that this was
probably a normal balloon

of some type that was shot down.

- [Tony] So if it was octagonal,

was it a group of
balloons tied together?

All we know is a national
security spokesman says

the object did not match

the Chinese spy balloon shot
down over the Atlantic coast.

And after that spy
balloon shoot down,

the radar used by NORAD,

the North American
Aerospace Defense Command,

had been adjusted to detect
these kinds of aerial objects.

Our verdict?

Because the pilots
mentioned strings,

we're going with
balloon in this case.

Admittedly, it's
impossible to determine

that definitively without
the recovery of the object.

But we do know that it cost
more than $400,000 to fire

the missile that
brought the thing down.

With that price
tag for taxpayers,

you'd think we'd be able
to know what we hit.

three videos shot in Arizona
were leaked to the public.

Without the leaks, these
Homeland Security videos may

have never been made public.

So why the secrecy?

We've investigated two
of these cases before.

Here is the latest clip.

April 14th, 2021, east
of Tombstone, Arizona.

It's shortly after
11 PM and an agent

with the Department
of Homeland Security

is tracking an
A-10 Warthog plane.

He's operating a
forward-looking infrared camera,

or FLIR, mounted atop a truck.

The A-10 appears silhouetted
because with this camera,

hot objects are black while
cooler objects appear white.

The leaker didn't elaborate
on why this plane is flying

over Arizona or why a DHS
agent would be filming it.

But it's in our hands because
nobody expected what

happened next.

A spherical object appears to
be chasing the fighter jet.

Like the A-10, the
object's heat signature

is also black hot.

But when the agent changes
to a different setting,

the UAP shows up like a
bright orb trailing the A-10.

At times, the light
is traveling so fast,

the FLIR operator has
problems following it

and keeping it in frame.

This video remains
secret until it was sent

to UFO investigator
Andy Marcial.

- When I saw this and I realized

that this was real, I
understood that, you know,

what I got my hands
on was a big deal.

- [Tony] For some, this
Arizona sighting falls

in line with much of what
we've heard about UAPs

from other government sources.

- [Amy] At an April 2023
congressional hearing,

Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick,
the head of AARO,

testified that 52% of all UAP
cases it has investigated,

the objects are spherical,

most measure between
1 and 4 meters across.

- [Tony] Orbs like this one,

uncovered by investigative
journalist Jeremy Korbel.

This unidentified object
was photographed over Mosul,

Iraq in 2016.

- [Amy] And usually, their
method of propulsion

is never immediately obvious.

This sighting falls into
all of the major categories.

- [Tony] Teitel notes they've
seen some similarities more

concerning than others.

- [Amy] Kirkpatrick also
presented a number of cases

where spherical UFOs are seen
trailing military planes.

The video shows that
the object is keeping up

with the A-10 Warthog
like it's nothing.

This has led some people to
wonder whether these spheres

are actually aliens tracking
our military technology.

- [Tony] There are many reasons

why extraterrestrials
might be interested

in our military:
surveillance, curiosity...

One former NASA astronaut
has even claimed

that aliens prevented a nuclear
exchange during the peak

of the Cold War.

So were aliens really
monitoring the A-10 Warthog

or was this something else
flying in the plane's airspace?

After releasing the footage,

Andy Marcial went to his
friend David Falch for answers.

Falch is a FLIR technician
and operator who works

with the exact same cameras
our video was shot on.

The first question is, could
this be much ado about nothing?

Are we simply looking at a bird?

- [David] It appears that the
object is flying around

the same speed as the aircraft,

which is traveling about
340 to 350 miles an hour.

I don't know any birds
that fly 350 miles an hour.

- [Tony] If it's not a bird,

could it be another object seen

over the Arizona
desert nowadays?

- [Rich] Within the last year
alone,

there's been about maybe
2,200 incidents reported

by Homeland Security
of drones being used

to carry drugs across the
border and into US territory.

However, a drone wouldn't
be changing the shape.

This particular object
doesn't remain round.

In fact, we don't
know of any technology

that changes shape
like this as it flies.

- [Tony] What kind of airborne

object can change its shape?

Perhaps a balloon in the
process of deflating?

- [Marc] Could it be a balloon?

Probably not, based on
the speed of its motion.

It looks like it's something
that's moving along

under its own power fast
enough so that it can stay

in the field of the A-10.

Now, it's still possible
it could be caught

in the fast-moving wind column.

- [Tony] The winds in
jet streams, on average,

reach speeds of about
110 miles per hour.

But if a balloon was
caught in that stream,

how could it keep
up with the Warthog,

which typically flies
at 350 miles per hour?

So with no earthly
explanation for this object,

could we be looking at something
truly extraterrestrial?

- [Marc] It's changing it's
size.

We don't know any craft or
any objects that can do that.

- [Tony] Our verdict?

We're calling this
one a genuine UFO,

and it's worth noting,

we see striking
similarities here

to other government
released videos like

the infamous USS Nimitz Tic Tac.

But let's be cautious here.

We're still uncertain this
object is of alien origin.

In any case, Andy,
keep 'em coming.

The greatest mystery may not
be what's seen in the sky,

but what's been kept from view.

And as questions grow louder,

we'll continue searching
for what's really out there.

Thank you for watching
this special episode

of "The Proof Is Out There".

Please send us any
videos, images,

or sound that you think
we should investigate

and remember to keep
those cameras rolling.

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