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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,087 --> 00:00:05,714 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:05,756 --> 00:00:07,257 Somebody asks you, "Where are you from?" 3 00:00:07,299 --> 00:00:09,635 And you answer, "I'm from Chicago," 4 00:00:09,677 --> 00:00:12,178 nobody's gonna give you a patronizing response like, 5 00:00:12,179 --> 00:00:14,055 "Oh, Chicago's charming." 6 00:00:14,097 --> 00:00:16,934 Hey, Chicago! 7 00:00:16,976 --> 00:00:19,520 More likely, it'll be, "Wow, Chicago," 8 00:00:19,561 --> 00:00:21,313 or "Oh, Chicago." 9 00:00:21,314 --> 00:00:23,064 They'll be impressed. 10 00:00:23,106 --> 00:00:25,776 Chicago's a town, a city that doesn't ever 11 00:00:25,818 --> 00:00:28,487 have to measure itself against any other city. 12 00:00:28,529 --> 00:00:32,700 Other places have to measure themselves against it. 13 00:00:32,741 --> 00:00:37,705 It's big, it's outgoing, it's tough, it's opinionated, 14 00:00:37,706 --> 00:00:39,707 and everybody's got a story. 15 00:00:43,961 --> 00:00:45,128 ♪ I took a walk ♪ 16 00:00:45,170 --> 00:00:49,341 ♪ Through this beautiful world ♪ 17 00:00:49,383 --> 00:00:55,014 ♪ Felt the cool rain on my shoulder ♪ 18 00:00:55,055 --> 00:00:56,598 ♪ Found something good ♪ 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,811 ♪ In this beautiful world ♪ 20 00:01:00,853 --> 00:01:06,901 ♪ I felt the rain getting colder ♪ 21 00:01:06,942 --> 00:01:07,943 ♪ La, la ♪ 22 00:01:07,985 --> 00:01:10,111 ♪ Sha la, la, la, la ♪ 23 00:01:10,153 --> 00:01:12,113 ♪ Sha la, la, la, la ♪ 24 00:01:12,155 --> 00:01:13,156 ♪ Sha la, la, la ♪ 25 00:01:13,198 --> 00:01:16,117 ♪ Sha la, la, la, la ♪ 26 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:21,040 ♪ Sha la, la, la, la, la ♪ 27 00:01:25,168 --> 00:01:30,215 I have been coming to the Ale House... 28 00:01:30,257 --> 00:01:33,218 What can the Ale House tell you about Chicago? 29 00:01:33,260 --> 00:01:33,760 ♪ ♪ 30 00:01:37,890 --> 00:01:40,141 As late afternoon gives way to evening 31 00:01:40,183 --> 00:01:43,604 in Chicago's Old Town, it's time to drink. 32 00:01:43,645 --> 00:01:47,608 Though, to be fair, almost any time is time for a drink 33 00:01:47,609 --> 00:01:49,359 at the Old Town Ale House. 34 00:01:49,401 --> 00:01:52,530 Another favorite of mine is... The difficult ones 35 00:01:52,531 --> 00:01:55,156 are the people who... The chorus assembles 36 00:01:55,198 --> 00:01:57,659 to give their opinions on matters of the day, 37 00:01:57,701 --> 00:02:01,162 subjects of great import to this city on the lake, 38 00:02:01,204 --> 00:02:06,877 this city of broad shoulders, this true metropolis. 39 00:02:06,919 --> 00:02:10,839 But there's... there's no shortage of characters in here. 40 00:02:10,881 --> 00:02:12,709 You know, I've lost a couple really great ones... 41 00:02:12,716 --> 00:02:16,053 John Fox the comic died a few years ago. 42 00:02:16,095 --> 00:02:18,179 We just lost Ruben "Four Toes," 43 00:02:18,221 --> 00:02:20,265 this 400-pound Mexican guy. 44 00:02:20,307 --> 00:02:23,540 We just called him Ruben, and then when he had 45 00:02:23,541 --> 00:02:26,396 his big toe cut off, then he became Ruben "Nine Toes." 46 00:02:26,438 --> 00:02:29,128 Then when he had his other big toe cut off, he became 47 00:02:29,129 --> 00:02:30,025 Ruben "Eight Toes," 48 00:02:30,067 --> 00:02:33,195 and then when he had his leg cut off, it changed down 49 00:02:33,196 --> 00:02:34,863 to Ruben "Four Toes." 50 00:02:34,905 --> 00:02:37,740 He blames all his problems on the fact his mother didn't 51 00:02:37,741 --> 00:02:39,576 give him any titty milk. 52 00:02:39,618 --> 00:02:43,163 I mean, these guys, there's nobody coming through the door 53 00:02:43,164 --> 00:02:44,081 to replace 'em. 54 00:02:45,666 --> 00:02:50,211 The Old Town Ale House opened in 1958... 55 00:02:50,253 --> 00:02:53,695 and has been serving beer and other intoxicating 56 00:02:53,696 --> 00:02:57,218 beverages ever since, unless you're on the "no shot" list, 57 00:02:57,260 --> 00:03:00,847 in which case your drinking options have been, for the good 58 00:03:00,848 --> 00:03:02,223 of the community, limited. 59 00:03:02,265 --> 00:03:04,225 There's a "no shot" list? 60 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:05,477 There is. 61 00:03:05,519 --> 00:03:08,271 The only guy that ever got off it is down there now, 62 00:03:08,313 --> 00:03:11,942 and it was just 'cause he's a peer, and yeah, 63 00:03:11,984 --> 00:03:13,944 we have a fairly extensive "no shot" list. 64 00:03:13,986 --> 00:03:15,689 Fair... extensive, meaning you can drink here, 65 00:03:15,696 --> 00:03:16,801 but no shots for you. 66 00:03:16,802 --> 00:03:17,906 No shots. 67 00:03:17,948 --> 00:03:19,484 'Cause just... that will lead to no good? 68 00:03:19,491 --> 00:03:21,242 History has shown us that these people 69 00:03:21,284 --> 00:03:22,243 should not drink a shot. 70 00:03:22,285 --> 00:03:23,912 Well, now, of course, what they do is 71 00:03:23,954 --> 00:03:25,539 they go to another bar and drink shots, 72 00:03:25,580 --> 00:03:27,492 and then they come over and we get the remnants of... 73 00:03:27,499 --> 00:03:28,292 Right. 74 00:03:28,293 --> 00:03:29,084 Right. 75 00:03:29,126 --> 00:03:32,442 Bruce Cameron Elliott and his ex-wife are the proprietors 76 00:03:32,443 --> 00:03:33,755 of the Old Town Ale House. 77 00:03:33,797 --> 00:03:36,842 Bruce likes to brag that he's never had an honest job, 78 00:03:36,884 --> 00:03:41,304 but he's a writer, legendary blogger, and artist. 79 00:03:41,346 --> 00:03:42,890 ♪ ♪ 80 00:03:42,931 --> 00:03:43,703 So who comes here? 81 00:03:43,704 --> 00:03:44,474 I mean generally. 82 00:03:44,516 --> 00:03:45,934 Who are your regulars? 83 00:03:45,976 --> 00:03:49,354 I think the most interesting thing about this bar... 84 00:03:49,396 --> 00:03:53,463 On an average night, if you look down this bar 85 00:03:53,464 --> 00:03:56,570 at 10:00 or 11:00, I would say the average age 86 00:03:56,611 --> 00:03:58,529 is certainly over 40... - Right. 87 00:03:58,530 --> 00:04:00,281 Which is very unusual. 88 00:04:00,323 --> 00:04:02,117 It's really what's missing in my life. 89 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:03,702 I need an old man bar. 90 00:04:03,744 --> 00:04:07,372 Is there a common thread to the... your regulars? 91 00:04:07,414 --> 00:04:11,064 The common thread is... Of our hard-core regulars? 92 00:04:11,065 --> 00:04:11,960 Yeah. 93 00:04:12,002 --> 00:04:13,336 They're basically alcoholics. 94 00:04:13,378 --> 00:04:15,505 Well, I mean, I was dancing around that. 95 00:04:15,547 --> 00:04:16,833 I wouldn't... we don't dance here. 96 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:19,176 There's no dancing. 97 00:04:19,218 --> 00:04:22,096 The late John Fox, who was my all-time favorite funny man, 98 00:04:22,137 --> 00:04:24,139 he came up with the Ale House handshake. 99 00:04:24,181 --> 00:04:28,330 The secret Ale House handshake was like... in the morning, 100 00:04:28,331 --> 00:04:29,310 which was that. 101 00:04:29,352 --> 00:04:31,939 Right, what do you have to do to get barred here? 102 00:04:31,980 --> 00:04:35,316 You know, punch somebody, probably more than once. 103 00:04:37,194 --> 00:04:38,319 More than once? 104 00:04:41,364 --> 00:04:44,118 ♪ ♪ 105 00:04:44,159 --> 00:04:46,745 The walls of the bar are covered with his portraits 106 00:04:46,787 --> 00:04:49,539 of Ale House regulars, which he mostly paints 107 00:04:49,581 --> 00:04:52,918 in the basement, next to the beer cooler. 108 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,275 More notorious are his paintings of well-known 109 00:04:55,276 --> 00:04:58,173 political figures who have, for one reason or another, 110 00:04:58,215 --> 00:04:59,967 raised Bruce's ire. 111 00:05:00,008 --> 00:05:04,993 They are inevitably depicted in an unflattering, let's say 112 00:05:04,994 --> 00:05:07,182 non-family-friendly light. 113 00:05:07,224 --> 00:05:09,350 Putin has been behaving very poorly, 114 00:05:09,392 --> 00:05:11,645 let me put it that way. 115 00:05:11,686 --> 00:05:14,355 I mean, but he also intrigues me. 116 00:05:14,397 --> 00:05:17,358 Plus I also have the extra satisfaction 117 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,861 of knowing he would not like what I'm gonna do, 118 00:05:19,903 --> 00:05:22,823 and that... that's... you know, that gives you 119 00:05:22,824 --> 00:05:24,365 a lot of pleasure. 120 00:05:24,407 --> 00:05:27,202 ♪ ♪ 121 00:05:27,244 --> 00:05:31,081 There is no shortage of opinions at the Ale House bar, 122 00:05:31,123 --> 00:05:35,189 and Bruce's opinions and the scope of his work extends 123 00:05:35,190 --> 00:05:36,962 far beyond Chicago's borders. 124 00:05:37,004 --> 00:05:37,504 ♪ ♪ 125 00:05:44,427 --> 00:05:47,181 I'm working on... my latest painting is Putin. 126 00:05:47,222 --> 00:05:48,807 Oh, say no more, I want to see. 127 00:05:48,849 --> 00:05:52,435 I would like some advice, because I was thinking 128 00:05:52,477 --> 00:05:56,231 of the classic "Catherine the Great hoists stallions," 129 00:05:56,232 --> 00:05:58,776 but let me show you... - There's ponies involved? 130 00:05:58,777 --> 00:05:59,693 I love ponies. 131 00:05:59,734 --> 00:06:01,820 Well, let me show you what I've come up with, 132 00:06:01,862 --> 00:06:05,406 because... simply because of the size constraints. 133 00:06:05,448 --> 00:06:09,286 This is... of course, that's our beer cooler and everything. 134 00:06:09,328 --> 00:06:10,620 This is where the magic happens. 135 00:06:10,662 --> 00:06:13,770 Well, this is where... Yeah, this is where 136 00:06:13,771 --> 00:06:15,209 Sarah Palin was painted. 137 00:06:15,250 --> 00:06:15,834 Whoa! 138 00:06:15,835 --> 00:06:18,837 And... Originally I was thinking... 139 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:21,089 And I'd be very interested in your input. 140 00:06:21,131 --> 00:06:23,800 Originally what I thought was Catherine the Great, 141 00:06:23,842 --> 00:06:28,429 the horses, and he in the receptive position. 142 00:06:28,471 --> 00:06:32,433 But then on the other hand, when I put him in a tutu, 143 00:06:32,475 --> 00:06:35,436 I thought, "I think that I've really uncovered" 144 00:06:35,478 --> 00:06:37,147 the true Putin." 145 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:38,648 Ballet's very important in Russia. 146 00:06:38,690 --> 00:06:40,025 Right. 147 00:06:40,026 --> 00:06:43,862 And if I painted him naked, that would almost be macho. 148 00:06:43,904 --> 00:06:46,552 Yeah, you don't need the... I mean, 149 00:06:46,553 --> 00:06:47,615 presumably tiny genitals. 150 00:06:47,657 --> 00:06:50,285 Well, I don't think there's any doubt about that. 151 00:06:50,327 --> 00:06:52,786 Um, I mean, look, he's got his shirt off, so already... 152 00:06:52,787 --> 00:06:54,039 That's the important part. 153 00:06:54,081 --> 00:06:56,833 He's universally identifiable, because he really likes 154 00:06:55,498 --> 00:06:56,833 to take his shirt off. 155 00:06:56,875 --> 00:06:58,459 No, he does, and I took his shirt off. 156 00:06:58,501 --> 00:07:01,629 He loves... I think this is an iconic image as is. 157 00:07:01,671 --> 00:07:03,340 - I really do. - I think it says it all. 158 00:07:03,382 --> 00:07:05,466 I was waiting... I'm glad you told me that, 159 00:07:05,508 --> 00:07:07,844 because I think I can go full-steam-ahead now. 160 00:07:07,886 --> 00:07:11,702 I'm thinking pastel... I've gotten pretty good with pastels, 161 00:07:11,703 --> 00:07:12,891 but this might be... 162 00:07:23,526 --> 00:07:26,487 All fans of... the people who follow your blog 163 00:07:26,529 --> 00:07:28,886 and know so much about... You know, I know who fixes 164 00:07:28,887 --> 00:07:31,285 your walk-in refrigerator, I know who fixes the bathroom, 165 00:07:31,326 --> 00:07:34,371 I know who comes in and cleans the floors, and I know 166 00:07:34,372 --> 00:07:36,790 the entire morning routine between Fancypants and... 167 00:07:36,791 --> 00:07:38,208 Street Jimmy. 168 00:07:38,250 --> 00:07:41,065 And Jimmy, and I know so much about all of these people 169 00:07:41,066 --> 00:07:43,192 and just the little... the day-to-day workings, 170 00:07:43,193 --> 00:07:45,320 but do you think there's something to be said 171 00:07:45,321 --> 00:07:47,134 that, like, you know, the trajectory 172 00:07:47,135 --> 00:07:48,864 of your clientele is not... No, it's- 173 00:07:48,865 --> 00:07:51,972 - Does not tend to be... - It's not ascending. 174 00:07:49,719 --> 00:07:51,972 It's not... it's not ascending. 175 00:07:52,013 --> 00:07:55,141 It's not in ascendance, it's... yes, and I've lost 176 00:07:55,142 --> 00:07:58,519 a couple really... I mean, we've really lost some beauties. 177 00:07:58,561 --> 00:08:01,522 I mean, it's the perils of being a saloon keeper, you... 178 00:08:01,564 --> 00:08:06,424 Here's my take on that, bar people do not live 179 00:08:06,425 --> 00:08:08,571 as long as vegan joggers. 180 00:08:08,613 --> 00:08:13,534 However... however, they have more fun. 181 00:08:16,579 --> 00:08:17,079 ♪ ♪ 182 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:32,553 In a city of factions... of neighborhoods... black, white, 183 00:08:32,554 --> 00:08:36,433 North side, South, Cubs or White Sox... everybody 184 00:08:36,434 --> 00:08:39,040 at one point or another seems to agree on this place, 185 00:08:39,041 --> 00:08:41,604 Valois in Hyde Park. 186 00:08:41,646 --> 00:08:43,648 Gotta grab your tray. 187 00:08:43,649 --> 00:08:45,650 That's part of the rule here. 188 00:08:52,199 --> 00:08:57,037 Um, I think meatloaf and macaroni and cheese, please. 189 00:08:57,078 --> 00:08:57,850 There you go. 190 00:08:57,851 --> 00:08:58,621 Thank you. 191 00:08:58,663 --> 00:09:02,292 I'll have the white fish, the mashed potatoes, and corn. 192 00:09:02,334 --> 00:09:04,627 I'm very happy about this. 193 00:09:10,717 --> 00:09:14,595 Two of my guilty pleasures on one plastic tray. 194 00:09:14,637 --> 00:09:16,890 Wow, they sure gave us a lot of fish. 195 00:09:16,931 --> 00:09:18,204 So what is... where am I? 196 00:09:18,205 --> 00:09:19,476 What is this neighborhood? 197 00:09:19,518 --> 00:09:20,601 This is Hyde Park. 198 00:09:20,643 --> 00:09:23,313 This is the heart and soul of Hyde Park. 199 00:09:23,355 --> 00:09:26,525 So, if you were running for office, 200 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:28,860 why would you use this place as your staging area? 201 00:09:28,902 --> 00:09:30,820 What's the social importance of it? 202 00:09:30,862 --> 00:09:33,990 You will see every politician, black and white, 203 00:09:34,032 --> 00:09:35,742 running for city office will 204 00:09:35,743 --> 00:09:37,452 come through here at some point. 205 00:09:37,494 --> 00:09:38,619 Why? 206 00:09:38,661 --> 00:09:40,997 It's just kind of a hangout. 207 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:43,124 You'd see Harold Washington here a lot. 208 00:09:43,166 --> 00:09:47,191 I mean, Barack... I used to see Barack here all the time, 209 00:09:47,192 --> 00:09:48,629 mostly for breakfast. 210 00:09:51,674 --> 00:09:54,782 The machine that is Chicago politics goes straight back 211 00:09:54,783 --> 00:09:57,638 to emperor Richard Daley... The father, then the son... 212 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:00,850 With a diverse cast of scoundrels in between. 213 00:10:00,892 --> 00:10:03,937 ♪ ♪ 214 00:10:03,978 --> 00:10:05,355 How are things in Chicago? 215 00:10:05,397 --> 00:10:08,816 I mean, on the arc of the trajectory... The problem was 216 00:10:08,817 --> 00:10:11,945 that we had this may... The Daley dynasty. 217 00:10:11,986 --> 00:10:15,282 We had the old man, and then we had the kid... 218 00:10:15,323 --> 00:10:17,658 The not-so-bright kid replaced him. 219 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:21,371 And he threw a party for his friends for over 20 years, 220 00:10:21,413 --> 00:10:22,872 and when it came time to pay the bill, 221 00:10:22,914 --> 00:10:26,667 he snuck out the back door of the... of city hall. 222 00:10:26,709 --> 00:10:28,669 So it's a mess right now, financially. 223 00:10:28,711 --> 00:10:31,381 ♪ ♪ 224 00:10:31,423 --> 00:10:35,844 The one thing about Chicago is, you cannot get away 225 00:10:35,845 --> 00:10:37,095 with being a fake or a phony. 226 00:10:37,137 --> 00:10:40,265 I mean, maybe somewhere out in one of the suburbs, 227 00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:42,183 but people see through it right away. 228 00:10:42,225 --> 00:10:43,684 That's kind of Chicago. 229 00:10:43,726 --> 00:10:47,960 What other characteristics of a true Chicagoan would be 230 00:10:47,961 --> 00:10:49,566 stereotypically true? 231 00:10:49,608 --> 00:10:50,775 I think you've got to make 232 00:10:50,817 --> 00:10:52,520 at least a little effort to be... not be a pussy. 233 00:10:52,527 --> 00:10:54,695 I think you gotta be a little tough. 234 00:10:54,737 --> 00:10:57,616 I don't think you can just... Not-You can't be a pussy. 235 00:10:57,657 --> 00:10:59,004 Or at least you're making an effort. 236 00:10:59,033 --> 00:11:00,577 Make a little effort. 237 00:11:00,619 --> 00:11:05,748 Just not to just, you know, roll over and... Right. 238 00:11:05,790 --> 00:11:06,290 ♪ ♪ 239 00:11:21,473 --> 00:11:26,019 Been coming to the Ale House for over 20 years. 240 00:11:26,060 --> 00:11:29,772 I have multiple sclerosis, and I was leaving a rehearsal 241 00:11:29,814 --> 00:11:31,851 from A Red Orchid Theatre, which is my theater company, 242 00:11:31,858 --> 00:11:33,734 which is around the corner, and I came here. 243 00:11:33,776 --> 00:11:37,927 I was really, really tired, and I was talking to Mitt 244 00:11:37,928 --> 00:11:42,035 who's Matt in the blog and maybe three or four other people 245 00:11:42,076 --> 00:11:45,830 at the end of bar, and I-I just remember, like, 246 00:11:45,872 --> 00:11:48,082 falling on the floor. 247 00:11:51,002 --> 00:11:52,753 I heard somebody yell, "She's not breathing," 248 00:11:52,795 --> 00:11:55,319 and they called an ambulance, and that's kind of all 249 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,758 that I remember, and when I came back a few days later, 250 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:58,878 like, I walked in the door, everybody was like, 251 00:11:58,885 --> 00:12:00,387 "Yay, you're better," 252 00:12:00,428 --> 00:12:02,472 and then a couple of the regulars were like, 253 00:12:02,514 --> 00:12:03,883 "That guy... that guy said that thing," 254 00:12:03,890 --> 00:12:05,350 and I was like, "What did he say?" 255 00:12:05,392 --> 00:12:07,008 And they said, "When you were on the floor" 256 00:12:07,018 --> 00:12:10,146 foaming at the mouth, he said"... he said, like... 257 00:12:10,188 --> 00:12:11,981 They said it got really quiet and he said, 258 00:12:12,023 --> 00:12:13,233 "I'll have what she's having." 259 00:12:13,234 --> 00:12:14,442 So, yeah. 260 00:12:14,484 --> 00:12:15,776 So that was fun. 261 00:12:15,818 --> 00:12:19,427 But I found out later what was really interesting 262 00:12:19,428 --> 00:12:22,659 about it was that right away my mind goes to alcohol. 263 00:12:27,997 --> 00:12:29,708 The American cheeseburger. 264 00:12:29,748 --> 00:12:31,792 It's the sort of feeling you get when you eat it 265 00:12:31,834 --> 00:12:33,794 that you remember you're sitting with a friend 266 00:12:33,836 --> 00:12:36,631 and enjoying a memory that takes you back to long ago 267 00:12:36,673 --> 00:12:40,468 when you were young, and as we follow Paul backstage, 268 00:12:40,510 --> 00:12:42,303 watching him slowly sip his coffee... 269 00:12:42,345 --> 00:12:45,056 Hey, what's going on, Daniel? 270 00:12:45,098 --> 00:12:47,892 You remember that comedy isn't just about laughs. 271 00:12:47,934 --> 00:12:50,729 It's also about... coffee... 272 00:12:51,854 --> 00:12:53,981 And clothes and being yourself. 273 00:12:54,023 --> 00:12:55,816 Do you guys want to run this scene? 274 00:12:55,858 --> 00:12:56,693 Which one? 275 00:12:56,694 --> 00:12:57,527 Transcendence. 276 00:12:57,569 --> 00:13:00,447 And after all, if we can't laugh at ourselves, 277 00:13:00,488 --> 00:13:02,616 who can we laugh at? 278 00:13:02,657 --> 00:13:04,360 I gotta be honest... he usually does it way better. 279 00:13:04,367 --> 00:13:05,326 Oh, come on! 280 00:13:06,369 --> 00:13:08,747 How is it that Chicago has become the... 281 00:13:08,787 --> 00:13:09,864 Sort of the fount of comedy? 282 00:13:09,872 --> 00:13:12,125 You know, it's-it's a gusher. 283 00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:14,690 I think it all started with Second City, and then people 284 00:13:14,691 --> 00:13:15,836 came here to study. 285 00:13:15,878 --> 00:13:18,839 I'd say 90% of the people who are doing comedy right now 286 00:13:18,881 --> 00:13:20,508 came to Chicago to study. 287 00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:23,470 Paul Jurewicz, a young man at the beginning 288 00:13:23,511 --> 00:13:26,847 of what will presumably be a glorious career. 289 00:13:26,889 --> 00:13:28,871 "First you push me in the pool, "now you call me 290 00:13:28,872 --> 00:13:29,643 'ketchup dick.' 291 00:13:29,684 --> 00:13:31,596 "I try to be spontaneous one time and this is what I get. 292 00:13:31,603 --> 00:13:34,689 I feel like no one respects me anymore." 293 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,237 Second City opened in Chicago's Old Town in 1959, 294 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:42,947 and almost from the beginning established 295 00:13:42,989 --> 00:13:45,742 a probably unhealthy symbiotic relationship 296 00:13:45,784 --> 00:13:47,368 with the Ale House. 297 00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:51,581 You know their names... John Belushi, Gilda Radner, 298 00:13:51,623 --> 00:13:54,875 Amy Poehler, Bill Murray, Chris Farley. 299 00:13:54,917 --> 00:13:58,025 If you're funny in America, chances are you spent 300 00:13:58,026 --> 00:14:01,591 some formative years here, getting the shit hammered 301 00:14:01,592 --> 00:14:03,885 out of you, learning, one hopes, in the parlance 302 00:14:03,886 --> 00:14:06,137 of the trade, to kill. 303 00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:09,890 I tuck my undershirt into the underwear. 304 00:14:09,932 --> 00:14:11,685 So how many times you do it a show? 305 00:14:11,726 --> 00:14:13,436 Per show? 306 00:14:13,437 --> 00:14:15,146 Probably seven times. 307 00:14:15,188 --> 00:14:18,983 Gotta be a cannonball, you know, not like a... 308 00:14:19,025 --> 00:14:21,361 bowl of Jell-O out there. 309 00:14:21,402 --> 00:14:23,945 You know, where are Second City people coming from, 310 00:14:23,946 --> 00:14:24,905 all over? 311 00:14:24,947 --> 00:14:25,531 All over. 312 00:14:25,532 --> 00:14:26,115 Right. 313 00:14:26,157 --> 00:14:27,200 All walks of life too. 314 00:14:27,241 --> 00:14:30,952 I mean, it is, you know, lawyers, teachers with... 315 00:14:30,953 --> 00:14:34,123 You know, servers. 316 00:14:34,165 --> 00:14:36,167 It's all classes. 317 00:14:36,209 --> 00:14:38,419 Well, look, servers... That is a rich tradit... 318 00:14:38,461 --> 00:14:40,338 I mean, one pres... Anytime you find anyone 319 00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:42,549 in the entertainment business, one presumes 320 00:14:42,550 --> 00:14:43,508 restaurant experience. 321 00:14:43,550 --> 00:14:44,572 Mm-hmm. 322 00:14:44,573 --> 00:14:45,593 I used to be a server. 323 00:14:45,635 --> 00:14:48,221 I used to be a cook, I was a sushi chef for a while. 324 00:14:48,262 --> 00:14:49,848 I used to be a Segway tour guide. 325 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:51,843 - I know too much about that. - You were a Segway tour guide? 326 00:14:51,850 --> 00:14:52,933 Yes. 327 00:14:52,975 --> 00:14:55,353 Wow, you better have a sense of humor. 328 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:58,085 Paul and I discussed the perilous nature 329 00:14:58,086 --> 00:15:01,651 of a life in comedy over some drinks and food 330 00:15:01,652 --> 00:15:04,987 at Longman & Eagle, where, though the flannels 331 00:15:04,988 --> 00:15:07,031 and neck beards are abundant, the food is excellent. 332 00:15:10,076 --> 00:15:11,161 Beef tartare. 333 00:15:11,162 --> 00:15:12,245 I like that. 334 00:15:12,286 --> 00:15:16,207 And who does not love roasted bone marrow? 335 00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:19,210 Tête de Cochon with bleu cheese and celery relish. 336 00:15:19,252 --> 00:15:21,546 The good Lord wants you to eat this. 337 00:15:21,588 --> 00:15:24,048 Really, he speaks to me all the time. 338 00:15:24,090 --> 00:15:27,968 Confit of beef tripe, and since I'm all about vegetables, 339 00:15:28,010 --> 00:15:30,971 slow roasted cauliflower with caramelized onions 340 00:15:31,013 --> 00:15:32,973 and lentils. 341 00:15:33,015 --> 00:15:34,267 ♪ ♪ 342 00:15:34,308 --> 00:15:36,060 So, does Second City travel? 343 00:15:36,061 --> 00:15:37,812 Do you have a road company? 344 00:15:37,854 --> 00:15:40,481 There are touring companies... Three touring companies. 345 00:15:40,523 --> 00:15:43,255 They're on cruise ships as well, so I did ten months 346 00:15:43,256 --> 00:15:44,235 on a cruise ship. 347 00:15:44,277 --> 00:15:45,236 Ooh! 348 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:48,698 Which is ten months of looking at the water and wondering, 349 00:15:48,699 --> 00:15:50,096 you know, "At this trajectory", 350 00:15:50,097 --> 00:15:51,451 would the boat pull me under?" 351 00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:56,080 "If I've had this much to drink, how long before the boat 352 00:15:54,203 --> 00:15:56,080 is out of my sight line?" 353 00:15:56,122 --> 00:15:57,533 - So that's like a prison ship. - Yes. 354 00:15:57,540 --> 00:15:59,584 I mean, 'cause you... you can't... you can't say, 355 00:15:59,585 --> 00:16:00,293 "Fuck this." 356 00:16:00,334 --> 00:16:02,037 I mean, it's real fun for the first two months, 357 00:16:02,044 --> 00:16:04,672 you know, it's a lot of fun, hanging out with the crews, 358 00:16:04,714 --> 00:16:07,467 you know, there's a lot of, you know, venereal diseases 359 00:16:07,468 --> 00:16:10,010 going around... - Right. 360 00:16:10,052 --> 00:16:12,305 And a lot of partying and there's a bar every 2 feet. 361 00:16:12,346 --> 00:16:14,641 And then after you hit the two-month, 362 00:16:14,682 --> 00:16:17,310 and you're like, "I want to go home, Mom, please help me." 363 00:16:17,351 --> 00:16:20,814 Talk about, you know, battlefield conditions 364 00:16:20,855 --> 00:16:22,440 to hone your craft, man. 365 00:16:22,441 --> 00:16:24,065 I respect... that is... Is that... I mean, 366 00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:25,693 is that the idea behind it? 367 00:16:25,735 --> 00:16:27,062 "We're gonna send you out"... The thing that you 368 00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:29,113 take away from it... - You're... When you get back 369 00:16:28,154 --> 00:16:30,114 from the gulag, you will be stronger for it? 370 00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:31,658 Oh, absolutely. 371 00:16:31,699 --> 00:16:34,118 It's your first time getting paid as a performer, 372 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,036 and it's also... the largest amount of people 373 00:16:36,078 --> 00:16:38,038 I've ever performed for was on a cruise ship. 374 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,124 It's 950 people you're performing to, you know, 375 00:16:41,125 --> 00:16:42,543 four nights a week. 376 00:16:42,585 --> 00:16:43,336 Right. 377 00:16:46,589 --> 00:16:47,924 ♪ ♪ 378 00:16:47,966 --> 00:16:49,049 Places, act one. 379 00:16:49,091 --> 00:16:50,217 How are things? 380 00:16:50,259 --> 00:16:51,719 - Oh, good. - Do I put the game on? 381 00:16:51,761 --> 00:16:53,513 The Patriots are playing the Redskins. 382 00:16:53,554 --> 00:16:56,349 Do we know where the dry cleaning is? 383 00:16:56,390 --> 00:17:00,353 There's no job that you can liken to this job. 384 00:17:00,394 --> 00:17:02,626 What are you trying to say, Mike, that we're some sort 385 00:17:02,627 --> 00:17:03,356 of time travelers? 386 00:17:03,397 --> 00:17:05,358 My hemp business is doing really well. 387 00:17:05,399 --> 00:17:08,152 I think it's on... I only have, like, four lines, right? 388 00:17:08,194 --> 00:17:11,865 Is it a kind of supportive... I mean, comedians 389 00:17:11,866 --> 00:17:15,159 are not famous for... - Standup, specifically, 390 00:17:11,906 --> 00:17:15,159 is more cutthroat. 391 00:17:15,201 --> 00:17:17,086 Why don't we all just calm down here, all right? 392 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,747 I thought that would get a pop, or at least a reaction. 393 00:17:19,789 --> 00:17:20,915 It's too long. 394 00:17:20,957 --> 00:17:22,792 Does anybody know where my socks are? 395 00:17:22,834 --> 00:17:24,794 In the improv community, I think 396 00:17:24,836 --> 00:17:26,330 it's a lot more supportive, because it's a group sport. 397 00:17:26,337 --> 00:17:27,505 Did you say, "community"? 398 00:17:27,506 --> 00:17:28,673 Yes. 399 00:17:28,715 --> 00:17:29,403 Got your back. 400 00:17:29,404 --> 00:17:30,090 Got your back. 401 00:17:30,132 --> 00:17:31,133 Got your back. 402 00:17:31,175 --> 00:17:32,169 - Got your back. - Got your back. 403 00:17:32,176 --> 00:17:33,553 Got your back. 404 00:17:33,594 --> 00:17:34,387 Got your back. 405 00:17:34,388 --> 00:17:35,179 Got your back. 406 00:17:35,221 --> 00:17:37,097 - So what if someone sucks? - Improvise. 407 00:17:37,139 --> 00:17:38,516 What if they're just... they suck? 408 00:17:38,558 --> 00:17:41,018 Your job as an improviser is to make that person 409 00:17:41,019 --> 00:17:42,102 look amazing. 410 00:17:42,144 --> 00:17:44,188 That's how you know if you're a good improviser. 411 00:17:46,524 --> 00:17:48,609 ♪ ♪ 412 00:17:48,651 --> 00:17:50,403 This was a path of least resistance for me. 413 00:17:50,444 --> 00:17:52,112 It was something I fell into that I loved, 414 00:17:52,154 --> 00:17:56,116 that I just found out that I was relatively good at, 415 00:17:56,158 --> 00:17:59,661 and through a series of mishaps, I found myself 416 00:17:59,662 --> 00:18:01,288 in this position. 417 00:18:01,330 --> 00:18:03,979 Like, if you'd asked me six years ago if I would be 418 00:18:03,980 --> 00:18:06,502 on the main stage at Second City, there's no way. 419 00:18:06,544 --> 00:18:08,922 I would have laughed at you. 420 00:18:08,963 --> 00:18:12,633 So, if this is where it ends for me, I'd be happy. 421 00:18:12,675 --> 00:18:13,760 ♪ ♪ 422 00:18:19,807 --> 00:18:20,307 ♪ ♪ 423 00:18:29,567 --> 00:18:31,151 Maybe the first thing you think of 424 00:18:31,193 --> 00:18:33,842 when you think about Chicago is not 425 00:18:33,843 --> 00:18:37,450 ass-burning Szechuan food, but maybe... maybe it should be. 426 00:18:37,491 --> 00:18:39,159 Well, I think a lot of people come 427 00:18:39,201 --> 00:18:41,161 and they think that Chicago is, 428 00:18:39,201 --> 00:18:41,996 like, on the Magnificent Mile, and you know, they're like, 429 00:18:41,997 --> 00:18:44,040 "Oh, should we go down to Navy Pier?" 430 00:18:44,041 --> 00:18:45,249 Like, no. 431 00:18:45,291 --> 00:18:46,084 Right. 432 00:18:46,085 --> 00:18:46,876 Why? 433 00:18:46,918 --> 00:18:48,628 So it's nice to go out to the neighborhoods, 434 00:18:48,669 --> 00:18:50,122 and there are so many different ethnicities everywhere, 435 00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:53,340 so going to places like that is really awesome. 436 00:18:53,382 --> 00:18:56,907 One of my favorite Chicagoans, chef, restaurateur, 437 00:18:56,908 --> 00:18:59,806 Stephanie Izard from the Girl & The Goat, 438 00:18:59,847 --> 00:19:03,810 and her colleague Peter Wong enlighten me. 439 00:19:03,851 --> 00:19:05,812 Look, I knew Chicago was a city 440 00:19:05,853 --> 00:19:08,481 of very diverse neighborhoods... Everybody says so... 441 00:19:08,522 --> 00:19:11,692 But this I didn't know about. 442 00:19:11,734 --> 00:19:13,111 Now I do. 443 00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:15,363 So where... where... where are we, and why are we... 444 00:19:15,364 --> 00:19:16,489 Why are we here? 445 00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:18,825 I'm... I have to say, I'm really glad we're here, 446 00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:21,035 but... but what... why? 447 00:19:21,077 --> 00:19:24,038 We're at Sze Chuan Cuisine, so after going to China... 448 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,206 We were just talking about that 449 00:19:26,207 --> 00:19:28,626 Chengdu is my favorite place, but Peter's never 450 00:19:26,248 --> 00:19:28,626 actually been to Chengdu. 451 00:19:28,668 --> 00:19:30,210 And so coming back then, it was like, 452 00:19:30,252 --> 00:19:32,005 "Let's go to Chinatown and try to find places 453 00:19:32,046 --> 00:19:34,214 to find those things we ate for breakfast every day." 454 00:19:37,259 --> 00:19:37,759 ♪ ♪ 455 00:19:42,556 --> 00:19:44,224 Pork dumplings in chili oil. 456 00:19:44,266 --> 00:19:45,434 Start the fire. 457 00:19:45,476 --> 00:19:46,853 Oh, man, they're slippery. 458 00:19:46,894 --> 00:19:48,347 - If you can get one. - You got it? Here. 459 00:19:48,354 --> 00:19:52,129 You know why the chopstick is thin, it's thick and fat? 460 00:19:52,130 --> 00:19:54,152 You can just... just do this. 461 00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:55,732 I thought you're not supposed to do that. 462 00:19:56,696 --> 00:19:58,928 Peter, you're supposed to help me knowing 463 00:19:58,929 --> 00:19:59,866 what's faux pas. 464 00:20:01,492 --> 00:20:03,077 Yeah, so happy. 465 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,413 One of my favorite dishes in the world anywhere... 466 00:20:06,414 --> 00:20:08,248 Mapo doufu. 467 00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:11,502 Yes, a tofu dish, stippled heavily with pork 468 00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:15,048 in a burny, numbing, "9 1/2 Weeks" style exercise 469 00:20:15,089 --> 00:20:18,822 in sadomasochism that will start you thinking some deeply 470 00:20:18,823 --> 00:20:20,094 disturbing thoughts. 471 00:20:20,136 --> 00:20:21,679 Do you know, "Mapo doufu," 472 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:24,431 is it because it looks like spotted grandmother, 473 00:20:24,473 --> 00:20:29,269 or did spotted, pockmarked grandmother create the dish? 474 00:20:29,311 --> 00:20:30,270 - Both. - Both? 475 00:20:30,312 --> 00:20:31,230 Yes. 476 00:20:31,231 --> 00:20:32,148 Right? 477 00:20:32,190 --> 00:20:33,691 My mouth's a little on fire right now, 478 00:20:33,733 --> 00:20:35,310 so I think the rice came at the right time. 479 00:20:35,317 --> 00:20:37,070 Yes. 480 00:20:37,111 --> 00:20:39,363 Ooh. 481 00:20:39,405 --> 00:20:41,281 Sounds like we are suffering... 482 00:20:41,323 --> 00:20:43,159 But actually it's delicious. 483 00:20:45,619 --> 00:20:47,163 Here, Anthony, try some of this. 484 00:20:47,205 --> 00:20:48,748 This is my favorite. 485 00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:51,500 This specialty of the house... fish hotpot. 486 00:20:51,542 --> 00:20:52,960 Nice. 487 00:20:52,961 --> 00:20:54,378 All right, here goes. 488 00:20:54,420 --> 00:20:56,589 I scooped off some peppers. 489 00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:58,799 You're going for the best piece, huh? 490 00:20:58,841 --> 00:21:00,384 Yeah. 491 00:21:00,426 --> 00:21:03,888 Oh, it burns so good. 492 00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:05,392 I could pretty much eat this every day. 493 00:21:11,353 --> 00:21:11,853 ♪ ♪ 494 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,987 It would have to be 1963... The summation was 495 00:21:20,988 --> 00:21:27,620 that I moved to move him away from another customer, 496 00:21:27,661 --> 00:21:31,958 and he backed up and clenched his fist, 497 00:21:31,999 --> 00:21:37,046 and, boy, when somebody clenches their fist, you know, 498 00:21:37,047 --> 00:21:39,548 they're really capable of doing something. 499 00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:45,054 So I got in the first shot, and then somebody grabbed me 500 00:21:45,055 --> 00:21:47,723 by my arms and held me by my arms, and he got 501 00:21:47,724 --> 00:21:51,393 the second shot off, and he re-deviated my septum, 502 00:21:51,435 --> 00:21:53,854 which was a good thing. 503 00:21:53,896 --> 00:21:56,983 But you know, he was bleeding and I was bleeding, 504 00:21:57,024 --> 00:21:59,235 and you know, it was camaraderie. 505 00:21:59,277 --> 00:22:02,362 We all... we hugged and kissed afterwards, 506 00:22:02,404 --> 00:22:04,115 and said, "Oh, I'm sorry." 507 00:22:04,116 --> 00:22:05,825 I'm sorry I did that." 508 00:22:05,866 --> 00:22:07,451 Well, he's dead now. 509 00:22:07,493 --> 00:22:10,288 I don't want to speak poorly about the dead. 510 00:22:18,796 --> 00:22:19,296 ♪ ♪ 511 00:22:27,805 --> 00:22:30,308 We always lived in the 'hood. 512 00:22:30,348 --> 00:22:33,186 You would hear gunshots in the distance, 513 00:22:33,227 --> 00:22:36,376 you would get to know about gangs, you would see 514 00:22:36,377 --> 00:22:37,315 the graffiti. 515 00:22:37,397 --> 00:22:41,401 The people who you were growing up with playing with 516 00:22:41,443 --> 00:22:42,938 wouldn't be there anymore, and it's like, 517 00:22:42,945 --> 00:22:44,613 "Oh, what happened to such and such?" 518 00:22:44,655 --> 00:22:46,199 And it's like, "Oh, he's dead." 519 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,118 He was in a gang or he got killed in a drive-by 520 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,704 or he got shot and such and such. 521 00:22:51,745 --> 00:22:55,208 Hip-hop artist extraordinaire Lupe Fiasco 522 00:22:55,249 --> 00:22:59,712 grew up on the South and West Sides of Chicago. 523 00:22:59,753 --> 00:23:03,716 But inside, his home was always an island of sanity, 524 00:23:03,757 --> 00:23:06,719 a supportive, creative environment. 525 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,376 Well, what was different about your family? 526 00:23:08,386 --> 00:23:13,017 My mother and my father were very intelligent 527 00:23:13,059 --> 00:23:18,605 and politically oriented and active, so it... it... you know, 528 00:23:18,647 --> 00:23:21,608 I got book smart and street smart, you know? 529 00:23:21,650 --> 00:23:24,028 Floyd Webb is an old family friend. 530 00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:25,946 This is Lupe's mom, Shirley. 531 00:23:25,988 --> 00:23:31,244 As becomes quickly apparent, she is, along with being 532 00:23:31,245 --> 00:23:34,747 an extraordinarily good cook, an extraordinary 533 00:23:31,285 --> 00:23:34,747 and determined human being. 534 00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:37,750 Man, this is so outrageously delicious. 535 00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:39,459 Wow. 536 00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:41,461 The whole time we're eating, by the way, 537 00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:43,498 people are moving in and out of Shirley's small apartment, 538 00:23:43,505 --> 00:23:46,466 the place clearly a hub for a tightly knit community 539 00:23:46,508 --> 00:23:48,969 of friends and family. 540 00:23:49,011 --> 00:23:51,555 So what age were you when you came to Chicago? 541 00:23:51,597 --> 00:23:53,974 I was, uh, 13. 542 00:23:54,016 --> 00:23:56,060 The worst thing that my family could have ever done 543 00:23:56,102 --> 00:23:59,146 was left the South... Was left Mississippi. 544 00:23:59,188 --> 00:24:00,064 We should have stayed. 545 00:24:00,106 --> 00:24:02,942 But this was the land of opportun... here and Detroit and 546 00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:02,942 the great cities of the North. 547 00:24:02,983 --> 00:24:04,651 It was and they came up, you know, then... 548 00:24:04,693 --> 00:24:07,154 We were never hungry down in Mississippi. 549 00:24:07,196 --> 00:24:10,490 We got here, depending on welfare, whatever, 550 00:24:10,532 --> 00:24:13,473 and they became alcoholics, abusive to the children 551 00:24:13,474 --> 00:24:16,496 and wives, and the children came out in the streets, 552 00:24:16,538 --> 00:24:20,209 and just everybody lost control, and now it's... 553 00:24:20,251 --> 00:24:24,088 What was Chicago like when you arrived? 554 00:24:24,130 --> 00:24:26,799 Uh, it wasn't as violent. 555 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,969 You know, the neighborhoods were communities. 556 00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:32,512 No vacant lots, there were families all over, 557 00:24:32,554 --> 00:24:33,806 kids in the street. 558 00:24:33,847 --> 00:24:36,475 You could go outside and play and not worry 559 00:24:36,476 --> 00:24:37,393 about your children. 560 00:24:37,435 --> 00:24:43,232 And somewhere in the late '70s, early '80s, 561 00:24:43,274 --> 00:24:46,319 it started to change and become more violent. 562 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,132 News announcer: 563 00:24:47,133 --> 00:24:49,447 July 4th, two young men gunned down 564 00:24:47,945 --> 00:24:49,447 at a Chicago strip mall. 565 00:24:49,487 --> 00:24:50,343 News announcer: 566 00:24:50,344 --> 00:24:52,532 For more than 50% surveyed... news announcer: 567 00:24:52,533 --> 00:24:55,453 Nine people shot to death and at least 60 others wounded. 568 00:24:55,493 --> 00:25:00,124 However much you might love Chicago, want to celebrate 569 00:25:00,125 --> 00:25:02,918 its general awesomeness, its character, 570 00:25:02,919 --> 00:25:05,254 its architecture, its food, there's no getting away 571 00:25:05,255 --> 00:25:08,590 from the ugly fact that Chicago's South Side 572 00:25:08,591 --> 00:25:10,759 is also currently the murder capitol of America. 573 00:25:10,801 --> 00:25:12,379 Why do you think people are killing each other 574 00:25:12,386 --> 00:25:14,847 in such large numbers in Chicago and not in New York? 575 00:25:14,888 --> 00:25:16,974 Let's be clear, it's only a few spots. 576 00:25:17,016 --> 00:25:18,593 - It isn't the whole city. - It isn't the whole city. 577 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,560 - It's not the whole city. - It's not "Chi-Raq." 578 00:25:20,602 --> 00:25:22,083 To be honest, "Chi-Raq" 579 00:25:22,084 --> 00:25:23,563 is Englewood. 580 00:25:23,605 --> 00:25:24,857 Right. 581 00:25:24,898 --> 00:25:26,566 Look, it's a pretty staggering body count. 582 00:25:26,608 --> 00:25:29,862 The sad part is that it's been like this, right, 583 00:25:29,903 --> 00:25:32,823 and the only reason it's a story now is 'cause white people 584 00:25:31,322 --> 00:25:34,574 looking at it, and it's like, "Aw, that's terrible." 585 00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:36,111 It's like, man, it's been like this for 30 years. 586 00:25:36,118 --> 00:25:37,404 How come it wasn't terrible 30 years ago 587 00:25:37,411 --> 00:25:39,893 when you probably actually could have did something 588 00:25:39,894 --> 00:25:41,165 about it? 589 00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:45,878 Does a hip-hop artist have an ob... any obligation really 590 00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:51,509 to speak about anything positive or even smarter than cars, 591 00:25:51,549 --> 00:25:54,303 girls, or "Where's my money"? 592 00:25:54,345 --> 00:25:58,807 Um... I guess it depends on where you come from, 593 00:25:58,849 --> 00:26:02,061 and then do you feel a obligation to where you came from? 594 00:26:02,102 --> 00:26:03,847 A lot of people in the 'hood won't take me serious. 595 00:26:03,854 --> 00:26:07,670 You know, they don't take Chuck D serious, because at least 596 00:26:07,671 --> 00:26:09,777 you take somebody who's rapping about crack 597 00:26:09,778 --> 00:26:12,071 and rapping about dope, that is a actual thing that 598 00:26:12,072 --> 00:26:14,177 they can go get and sell and make money that day 599 00:26:14,178 --> 00:26:15,115 if they wanted to. 600 00:26:15,157 --> 00:26:18,994 You can't preach to them Black Panther Party or you know, 601 00:26:18,995 --> 00:26:22,122 Marcus Garvey or this, 'cause they can't go out and get it 602 00:26:22,164 --> 00:26:24,666 and actually sell it and monetize and make 603 00:26:23,665 --> 00:26:24,666 some money off of it. 604 00:26:24,708 --> 00:26:25,522 Right. Right. 605 00:26:25,523 --> 00:26:26,335 Right. 606 00:26:28,462 --> 00:26:32,091 Despite an appalling murder rate, questionable leadership, 607 00:26:32,132 --> 00:26:36,720 Chicagoans aren't going anywhere anytime soon. 608 00:26:36,762 --> 00:26:39,932 The Southern people, we brought our spirit here, 609 00:26:39,973 --> 00:26:43,623 so Chicago have, like, a warm spirit and you know, 610 00:26:43,624 --> 00:26:44,562 loving spirit. 611 00:26:44,602 --> 00:26:47,689 It's a beautiful place, it's a genuinely beautiful place 612 00:26:47,731 --> 00:26:50,443 where you have to redefine what beauty is to you. 613 00:26:50,484 --> 00:26:53,904 You go to different neighborhoods and it's really that. 614 00:26:53,946 --> 00:26:57,074 But even in that, there's still a beauty in the people. 615 00:26:57,116 --> 00:26:59,659 And then just from a cultural front. 616 00:26:59,701 --> 00:27:01,454 You know, we got everything here. 617 00:27:01,495 --> 00:27:05,124 You know, we got... if you want Capoeira, we got Capoeira. 618 00:27:05,165 --> 00:27:07,834 You want avant-garde jazz, we got avant-garde jazz. 619 00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:09,462 You want House music, we got that too. 620 00:27:09,503 --> 00:27:11,922 You want... you want just straight finance 621 00:27:11,964 --> 00:27:14,174 and you want to just be a stock market baron, 622 00:27:14,216 --> 00:27:16,135 we got that too, you know. 623 00:27:16,176 --> 00:27:18,554 You want some of the best food that you'll ever find, 624 00:27:18,596 --> 00:27:20,473 we got that too. 625 00:27:20,514 --> 00:27:23,496 So we're a crossroads and we picked up a lot of little DNA 626 00:27:23,497 --> 00:27:26,686 and things from different places on all fronts. 627 00:27:26,728 --> 00:27:27,228 ♪ ♪ 628 00:27:43,829 --> 00:27:46,206 Start to know people's names... 629 00:27:50,668 --> 00:27:53,297 I've always, my whole life, had very... a lot of difficulty 630 00:27:53,339 --> 00:27:56,737 with these fireplug type guys, and he started looking 631 00:27:56,738 --> 00:27:59,240 like he was gonna start punching Street Jimmy, 632 00:27:59,241 --> 00:28:01,555 who's a guy that hangs around on the street 633 00:28:01,556 --> 00:28:02,348 and comes in here. 634 00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:05,725 And I said something to him, and he came... he made a move, 635 00:28:05,767 --> 00:28:09,647 so I caught him a real nice left-left, knocked him down. 636 00:28:09,687 --> 00:28:12,732 And I never saw a guy make this move before, 637 00:28:12,774 --> 00:28:16,007 but on his stomach, he just went... like, squished over, 638 00:28:16,008 --> 00:28:18,947 hooked my leg, got on top of me, and started whacking me. 639 00:28:18,989 --> 00:28:22,950 And Hawkeye, our doorman, just sat there watching me 640 00:28:22,951 --> 00:28:26,414 being pummeled, and Street Jimmy came over 641 00:28:26,415 --> 00:28:27,540 and grabbed his arm... 642 00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:39,051 ♪ ♪ 643 00:28:39,092 --> 00:28:40,760 Making a living hasn't really been 644 00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:42,929 what it's been about ever in Chicago. 645 00:28:42,971 --> 00:28:44,973 Keeping the ball in the air is what it's about, 646 00:28:45,015 --> 00:28:48,331 just making sure that things keep going, remain viable 647 00:28:48,332 --> 00:28:49,853 and sustainable. 648 00:28:49,895 --> 00:28:52,147 Nobody's too concerned about making a killing 649 00:28:52,189 --> 00:28:53,440 or becoming a star. 650 00:28:53,482 --> 00:28:54,685 Everybody just wants to keep doing it. 651 00:28:54,692 --> 00:28:57,277 Is that a uniquely Chicago attitude? 652 00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:00,364 I flatter myself by thinking that people in Chicago 653 00:29:00,406 --> 00:29:01,781 care more about what they're doing 654 00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:04,702 than what they're getting paid to do it. 655 00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:06,196 One of the things people have always loved 656 00:29:06,203 --> 00:29:08,163 about Chicago, of course, is the music, 657 00:29:08,205 --> 00:29:11,709 and if one guy has defined rock and roll and punk sounds 658 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:15,879 for the last three decades, well, this guy, Steve Albini, 659 00:29:15,921 --> 00:29:18,090 would have to be a powerful candidate. 660 00:29:18,131 --> 00:29:20,800 Member of the legendary Chicago punk band Big Black 661 00:29:20,842 --> 00:29:22,254 and one of the most important producers 662 00:29:22,261 --> 00:29:25,243 of underground rock, Albini produced some 663 00:29:25,244 --> 00:29:28,434 of the most influential music of the last 25 years... 664 00:29:28,475 --> 00:29:33,813 The Pixies, Slint, Nirvana, PJ Harvey to name a few. 665 00:29:33,855 --> 00:29:36,609 He takes me to one of his favorite Chicago spots, 666 00:29:36,650 --> 00:29:40,738 Ricobene's, to sample the particularly unholy delights 667 00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:43,823 of the breaded, fried steak sandwich. 668 00:29:43,865 --> 00:29:45,492 ♪ ♪ 669 00:29:45,534 --> 00:29:48,328 This thing is... - This is a half a sandwich, bear in mind. 670 00:29:48,370 --> 00:29:49,496 That's like 4 pounds. 671 00:29:49,538 --> 00:29:50,748 Yeah. 672 00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:51,831 Wow. 673 00:29:51,873 --> 00:29:53,875 We're gonna need a boatload of napkins. 674 00:29:53,917 --> 00:29:55,461 There's no delicate way to eat this. 675 00:29:55,502 --> 00:29:57,087 - You just hoist it and go. - Yeah. 676 00:29:57,129 --> 00:30:00,424 The time out of the fryer is also critical. 677 00:30:00,466 --> 00:30:02,842 These are still crispy on the outside. 678 00:30:02,884 --> 00:30:05,554 This is precisely the way this sandwich 679 00:30:05,596 --> 00:30:06,846 was meant to be eaten. 680 00:30:06,888 --> 00:30:10,225 Yeah, that is a thing of beauty. 681 00:30:10,267 --> 00:30:12,060 And tasty. 682 00:30:12,102 --> 00:30:13,729 Hmm. 683 00:30:13,771 --> 00:30:16,877 So, you have remarkably... unusual for 684 00:30:16,878 --> 00:30:21,341 the music industry... a remarkably lenient... 685 00:30:21,342 --> 00:30:24,782 views on music sharing. 686 00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:28,868 Your pricing structure as a producer is, you know, 687 00:30:28,910 --> 00:30:31,455 somewhat against the grain of the usual business model. 688 00:30:31,497 --> 00:30:33,957 And you are not living in I.A. 689 00:30:33,958 --> 00:30:37,877 or New York or living on a mountaintop, peeing on the... 690 00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:39,797 You know, peeing downwards from a great height. 691 00:30:39,838 --> 00:30:41,507 What are you, some kind of a communist? 692 00:30:41,548 --> 00:30:42,882 What's... what's the deal? 693 00:30:42,924 --> 00:30:45,385 Well, I mean, I have a healthy suspicion 694 00:30:45,427 --> 00:30:47,554 of capitalism as a method. 695 00:30:47,596 --> 00:30:50,890 I feel like, you know, left unchecked, 696 00:30:50,932 --> 00:30:56,062 capitalism is a kind of cultural sociopathy. 697 00:30:56,104 --> 00:30:59,899 Like, for a business to be successful in capitalist terms, 698 00:30:59,941 --> 00:31:03,445 it has to do the best possible job of exploiting everyone 699 00:31:03,446 --> 00:31:04,780 that it does interaction with. 700 00:31:04,822 --> 00:31:05,864 Mm-hmm. 701 00:31:05,865 --> 00:31:07,887 The endgame of capitalism is that everything 702 00:31:07,888 --> 00:31:09,681 is crappier and crappier and people are 703 00:31:09,682 --> 00:31:11,621 more and more exploited, and I have 704 00:31:11,622 --> 00:31:12,705 a healthy suspicion of that. 705 00:31:12,746 --> 00:31:18,418 So I feel like the social model that I'm comfortable with, 706 00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:21,213 it suits my business practices, which is that we're all 707 00:31:21,214 --> 00:31:22,172 in the same game. 708 00:31:22,214 --> 00:31:23,841 We're all trying to do the same thing. 709 00:31:23,882 --> 00:31:25,946 We just want to make sure that things get better 710 00:31:25,947 --> 00:31:26,926 for everybody. 711 00:31:26,968 --> 00:31:29,555 Is that a Chicago attitude, you think? 712 00:31:29,596 --> 00:31:32,599 Mm, well, in my circles it is, yeah. 713 00:31:32,641 --> 00:31:35,811 In the punk rock scene and the people who are influenced 714 00:31:35,812 --> 00:31:38,938 by the punk rock scene, that's a very common notion, 715 00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:42,150 is that you're not trying to extract the maximum, 716 00:31:42,192 --> 00:31:45,362 you're trying to make sure that everything goes... 717 00:31:45,404 --> 00:31:46,946 Everything carries on. 718 00:31:46,988 --> 00:31:48,428 Is there less "douchery" 719 00:31:48,429 --> 00:31:49,867 in Chicago? 720 00:31:49,908 --> 00:31:52,619 You can find jagoffs... that's a uniquely Chicago word, 721 00:31:52,620 --> 00:31:53,245 by the way. 722 00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:54,663 Jagoff, oh, I love it. 723 00:31:54,705 --> 00:31:56,074 It's been so long since I've heard it. 724 00:31:56,081 --> 00:31:58,250 If you look for 'em, you can find jagoffs 725 00:31:58,291 --> 00:32:00,878 of all type in Chicago. 726 00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:03,902 But the people who are, you know... Thank you so much. 727 00:32:03,903 --> 00:32:04,882 You're welcome. 728 00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:07,967 Productive and content and part of an enterprise 729 00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:11,889 that is, you know, righteous, for lack of a better term... 730 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:13,139 Right. 731 00:32:13,181 --> 00:32:16,976 They tend to not just give lip service to the notion 732 00:32:17,018 --> 00:32:23,400 of egalitarianism or fairness, but they tend to embody it. 733 00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:24,693 What about the musicians? 734 00:32:24,735 --> 00:32:29,989 I mean, how much money does a guitar hero deserve to make? 735 00:32:30,031 --> 00:32:31,949 Well, all of it, obviously, because that's what 736 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:33,243 people are listening to. 737 00:32:33,285 --> 00:32:36,413 People are listening to somebody's creative expression. 738 00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:39,958 ♪ ♪ 739 00:32:53,263 --> 00:32:56,850 Look down the bar, right, and it's... Some characters 740 00:32:56,892 --> 00:32:59,018 you can't write about, and some people... 741 00:33:01,313 --> 00:33:04,733 Around here, nicknames have a sick habit 742 00:33:04,775 --> 00:33:05,901 of sticking to you like glue. 743 00:33:05,902 --> 00:33:09,655 You just... you don't just dodge 'em, you just live with it. 744 00:33:09,696 --> 00:33:13,032 When I used to bartend the morning shift here, 745 00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:17,912 him and this other guy used to come in, a bit crazy 746 00:33:17,913 --> 00:33:21,917 before it was even, like, 8:30 in the morning. 747 00:33:21,959 --> 00:33:26,045 And this one poor guy was here, and they were, like, 748 00:33:26,046 --> 00:33:28,966 on both sides of him, just going nuts, 749 00:33:28,967 --> 00:33:31,551 and I'm like, you know, "That's it, you know, 750 00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:31,551 you guys gotta go." 751 00:33:31,593 --> 00:33:34,513 But he says, "You know, man, you're a real buzzkill," 752 00:33:34,554 --> 00:33:37,056 and it stuck to me ever since. 753 00:33:37,098 --> 00:33:39,852 I mean, it's carved in stone pretty much. 754 00:33:48,109 --> 00:33:50,153 ♪ ♪ 755 00:33:50,195 --> 00:33:53,114 Chicago is famously a sports town. 756 00:33:53,156 --> 00:33:56,702 The Bulls, the Bears, the Cubs, the White Sox... 757 00:33:56,743 --> 00:33:58,495 to you and me, those are just names, 758 00:33:58,537 --> 00:34:01,080 but to many Chicagoans, a cause, 759 00:34:01,122 --> 00:34:03,333 a defining lifestyle choice. 760 00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:08,234 The rivalry between Cubs and White Sox fans, for instance, 761 00:34:08,235 --> 00:34:10,173 is particularly vicious. 762 00:34:10,215 --> 00:34:13,092 Difference between a Cub fan and a Sox fan is 763 00:34:13,134 --> 00:34:17,452 a Cub fan goes to the park, they enjoy themselves, 764 00:34:17,453 --> 00:34:18,724 they have fun. 765 00:34:18,765 --> 00:34:21,226 If the team wins, that's okay, if they lose, 766 00:34:21,227 --> 00:34:22,394 it's no big deal. 767 00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:26,669 Sox fan will turn on their team in a... on-on a dime 768 00:34:26,670 --> 00:34:29,046 if they don't... if they're not good, 769 00:34:29,047 --> 00:34:31,361 if they don't play well, if they don't hustle. 770 00:34:29,985 --> 00:34:31,361 That is true. 771 00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:34,823 But a perfect day for a Sox fan is the Sox to win, 772 00:34:34,865 --> 00:34:37,951 the Cubs to lose, and then the Cubs' plane crashes. 773 00:34:37,993 --> 00:34:43,331 So to what do you attribute this quality of deep, deep, 774 00:34:43,373 --> 00:34:45,042 bordering on murderous hatred? 775 00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:47,836 The hatred is basically from the South Side. 776 00:34:47,878 --> 00:34:49,170 Of course it is. 777 00:34:49,212 --> 00:34:52,340 I mean, they hate us like... you have no idea. 778 00:34:52,382 --> 00:34:55,134 We don't have that vicious intent to them. 779 00:34:55,176 --> 00:34:57,136 Why... where... why the viciousness and hatred? 780 00:34:57,178 --> 00:35:00,223 All right, to be around Cub fans is to hate them. 781 00:35:01,683 --> 00:35:02,642 Let's go, Cubbies. 782 00:35:07,814 --> 00:35:09,315 Yeah, baby! 783 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,989 ♪ ♪ 784 00:35:16,031 --> 00:35:20,369 I just... I can never bring myself to understand 785 00:35:20,370 --> 00:35:21,620 their hatred of us. 786 00:35:21,661 --> 00:35:23,162 Yeah, Cubbies! 787 00:35:23,204 --> 00:35:24,623 Whoo! 788 00:35:24,664 --> 00:35:26,625 Number one. 789 00:35:26,666 --> 00:35:28,126 Yo! Go, Cubs, go! Yeah! 790 00:35:28,127 --> 00:35:29,586 Whoo! 791 00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:31,170 So they're cursed. 792 00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:33,882 Their historic destiny is to be losers. 793 00:35:33,924 --> 00:35:37,407 Yes, and like they say, any team... any team can have 794 00:35:37,408 --> 00:35:38,804 a bad century. 795 00:35:38,845 --> 00:35:41,473 The Cubs are working on having two bad centuries. 796 00:35:41,514 --> 00:35:43,182 Right. 797 00:35:43,224 --> 00:35:45,811 Topo Gigio is a massive Italian-American joint 798 00:35:45,852 --> 00:35:49,606 in the Old Town that serves up much-better-than-you'd-think 799 00:35:49,607 --> 00:35:51,337 old school stuff like scallops in pesto 800 00:35:51,338 --> 00:35:54,486 cream sauce for Bruce here, and squid ink pasta with shrimp 801 00:35:54,487 --> 00:35:55,904 for Buzzkill. 802 00:35:55,946 --> 00:35:58,239 My veal saltimbocca is most excellent, 803 00:35:58,281 --> 00:36:01,200 and the long, festering dispute across from me 804 00:36:01,242 --> 00:36:03,286 only makes my food taste better. 805 00:36:03,328 --> 00:36:08,083 Is Bruce's attitude atypical or typical? 806 00:36:08,125 --> 00:36:10,836 It's extremely... - Or is he a relative moderate? 807 00:36:10,877 --> 00:36:14,673 It's the... It's extremely typical. 808 00:36:14,714 --> 00:36:16,709 I mean, he is sitting at the same table with a Cubs fan. 809 00:36:16,716 --> 00:36:18,010 Well, yes. 810 00:36:18,051 --> 00:36:19,253 No, no, I drink with Cub fans. 811 00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:21,847 I've even had sex with Cub fans. 812 00:36:21,888 --> 00:36:24,223 I mean, no, I... - Well, truth be told, 813 00:36:24,265 --> 00:36:27,060 the last time the Sox won it in '05... 814 00:36:27,102 --> 00:36:28,645 Not that long ago, really. 815 00:36:28,646 --> 00:36:31,606 - I-I-I... - Not that long ago. 816 00:36:31,648 --> 00:36:33,143 - For chrissakes, you won one. - It was this century. 817 00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:35,360 - I've been on this planet... - How about this century 818 00:36:35,361 --> 00:36:36,235 we've already won one? 819 00:36:36,277 --> 00:36:38,237 You know, I've been on this planet for 55 years, 820 00:36:38,279 --> 00:36:39,259 you've won one. 821 00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:40,239 You know what? 822 00:36:40,281 --> 00:36:42,075 You guys are worse than Notre Dame fans. 823 00:36:42,117 --> 00:36:43,319 I wouldn't mind winning every 25 years. 824 00:36:43,326 --> 00:36:45,871 I swear to Christ, you cling onto that. 825 00:36:47,288 --> 00:36:49,415 I mean, look, Chicago's a great city. 826 00:36:49,457 --> 00:36:50,625 Yes, it is. 827 00:36:50,667 --> 00:36:52,251 It deserves to win, right? 828 00:36:52,252 --> 00:36:55,254 I mean... - Thing is about Chicago sports fans, 829 00:36:55,296 --> 00:36:57,256 we got to see the greatest basketball player 830 00:36:57,298 --> 00:36:58,717 that ever lived. 831 00:36:58,758 --> 00:36:59,926 We were winners in our prime. 832 00:36:59,968 --> 00:37:01,260 Best athlete that ever lived. 833 00:37:01,302 --> 00:37:03,180 In our prime we got to see this. 834 00:37:03,221 --> 00:37:04,056 Right. 835 00:37:04,057 --> 00:37:06,265 So now we... We're now holding things up to 836 00:37:06,307 --> 00:37:07,788 a higher standard of excellence. 837 00:37:07,789 --> 00:37:09,268 Right. 838 00:37:09,310 --> 00:37:11,305 Now, here's where the Cub fans and Sox fans join forces, 839 00:37:11,312 --> 00:37:12,515 - to watch the Bear game. - Right. 840 00:37:12,522 --> 00:37:14,566 That's something we can all agree on. 841 00:37:14,607 --> 00:37:16,109 You both hate the Bears? 842 00:37:16,151 --> 00:37:18,195 - No, no, we love them... - No, we love the Bears. 843 00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:21,698 We just want Virginia to just cash in her chips 844 00:37:21,740 --> 00:37:23,282 and just go away. 845 00:37:23,324 --> 00:37:25,869 So let's say... let's say the planets all... 846 00:37:25,911 --> 00:37:31,124 The stars align perfectly for Chicago, in your view. 847 00:37:31,166 --> 00:37:33,292 What does the sports picture look like? 848 00:37:33,334 --> 00:37:34,604 Who wins, who loses, what happens? 849 00:37:34,627 --> 00:37:37,505 Well, first of all there'd have to be some funerals. 850 00:37:37,547 --> 00:37:39,298 - There'd have to be funerals. - Several. 851 00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:40,466 Who would have to die? 852 00:37:40,508 --> 00:37:43,762 I would say the owner of the Bears, and then... 853 00:37:43,803 --> 00:37:45,304 And do you agree with this? 854 00:37:45,346 --> 00:37:46,340 - Yeah, and if... - More or less. 855 00:37:46,347 --> 00:37:47,599 We hate owners. 856 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,143 Yeah, we all are united in hatred of the owners. 857 00:37:50,185 --> 00:37:54,522 Well, I... wish you both luck. 858 00:37:56,399 --> 00:37:59,318 ♪ ♪ 859 00:38:15,376 --> 00:38:16,753 ♪ ♪ 860 00:38:16,795 --> 00:38:19,338 And I had to do in the morning, so I'd just get up, 861 00:38:19,339 --> 00:38:21,153 and Roger... he was a very fat guy, 862 00:38:21,154 --> 00:38:24,761 always been a very fat guy until, of course, he became ill, 863 00:38:24,803 --> 00:38:26,554 but he was an indefatigable walker. 864 00:38:26,596 --> 00:38:27,722 He loved to walk. 865 00:38:27,764 --> 00:38:31,539 And the reason we ended up here was because 866 00:38:31,540 --> 00:38:34,396 in the drinking society that we were involved in 867 00:38:34,397 --> 00:38:36,940 at the time, there were not many walkers, 868 00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:40,318 but Roger was a walker, I was a walker. 869 00:38:41,653 --> 00:38:43,947 Legendary film critic Roger Ebert 870 00:38:43,989 --> 00:38:47,033 was a man of mythic proportions in Chicago. 871 00:38:47,075 --> 00:38:50,411 A close friend of Bruce, half of the Siskel and Ebert duo, 872 00:38:50,453 --> 00:38:53,372 and a regular at the Old Town Ale House, 873 00:38:53,414 --> 00:39:00,088 Roger passed away in 2013 after a long battle with cancer. 874 00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:04,050 I been sort of conducting an informal poll 875 00:39:04,092 --> 00:39:06,615 over the course of the week, asking people 876 00:39:06,616 --> 00:39:07,804 who Chicago should honor. 877 00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:09,139 If you had to put up a statue, 878 00:39:09,140 --> 00:39:12,163 you know, of the... sort of the... an iconic Chicagoan 879 00:39:12,164 --> 00:39:15,478 who everybody agrees is a good person, 880 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,649 and very popular answer... Roger Ebert. 881 00:39:19,691 --> 00:39:23,278 I would say that I'm a little prejudiced, but definitely 882 00:39:23,279 --> 00:39:27,448 Roger Ebert deserves all the accolades he's been getting, 883 00:39:27,490 --> 00:39:29,868 justifiably so. 884 00:39:29,909 --> 00:39:31,911 Roger's the guy that got me to write the blog, 885 00:39:31,953 --> 00:39:34,831 and he's the guy that gave me the tips. 886 00:39:34,873 --> 00:39:38,501 He was an amazing guy, and I think, of course, 887 00:39:38,543 --> 00:39:44,465 had he not become ill and really handled his illness 888 00:39:44,507 --> 00:39:47,886 in a way that I could... I can't even conceive 889 00:39:47,887 --> 00:39:51,222 of myself handling, I think that that really 890 00:39:51,223 --> 00:39:54,372 kind of set him apart from kind of the other 891 00:39:54,373 --> 00:39:56,019 iconic Chicago people. 892 00:39:56,061 --> 00:39:57,729 The guy... and correct me if I'm wrong... 893 00:39:57,770 --> 00:40:00,023 This was an enthusiast, I mean, this was a guy 894 00:40:00,065 --> 00:40:02,317 who actually liked going to the movies. 895 00:40:02,359 --> 00:40:04,903 Now, this is not always the case with critics. 896 00:40:04,944 --> 00:40:08,031 They don't necessarily love the people 897 00:40:08,073 --> 00:40:10,658 or the subject matter they're reviewing. 898 00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:13,703 Roger loved movies and he loved actors. 899 00:40:13,745 --> 00:40:15,810 If you went over to his house, he would want 900 00:40:15,811 --> 00:40:16,706 to watch movies. 901 00:40:16,748 --> 00:40:20,502 Siskel and Ebert, classic, you know... it's like, that is 902 00:40:20,503 --> 00:40:21,669 an iconic relationship. 903 00:40:21,711 --> 00:40:23,171 They didn't seem to like each other. 904 00:40:23,213 --> 00:40:24,339 They hated each other. 905 00:40:24,381 --> 00:40:25,499 - They hated each other? - Yes. 906 00:40:25,506 --> 00:40:27,717 I mean, they understood what they had, 907 00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:31,512 but a lot of people think Siskel was the alpha. 908 00:40:31,554 --> 00:40:32,472 Mm-hmm. 909 00:40:32,473 --> 00:40:33,390 He was not. 910 00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:35,683 Roger had two things over Siskel. 911 00:40:35,725 --> 00:40:39,145 He was a much better writer and he was much better read. 912 00:40:39,187 --> 00:40:42,357 So, Roger lived principally in Chicago? 913 00:40:42,399 --> 00:40:44,776 Oh, yes, and he had... Believe me, he had plenty 914 00:40:44,777 --> 00:40:45,777 of opportunities to leave. 915 00:40:45,818 --> 00:40:49,135 I mean, he was offered some serious dough to go to New York 916 00:40:49,136 --> 00:40:51,074 and go to I.A. 917 00:40:51,116 --> 00:40:52,491 Why didn't he go? 918 00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:56,955 In Chicago, favors are worth more than money and loyalty. 919 00:40:56,996 --> 00:40:59,749 In Chicago, this is very important stuff. 920 00:40:59,791 --> 00:41:01,709 Roger is one of the most loyal people. 921 00:41:01,751 --> 00:41:05,171 He was loyal to his friends, to his family. 922 00:41:05,213 --> 00:41:06,172 Right. 923 00:41:06,214 --> 00:41:10,176 And I just... I don't have any problem understanding 924 00:41:10,218 --> 00:41:12,345 why he decided to stay here. 925 00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:15,890 ♪ ♪ 71241

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