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And, does anyone have questions?
Okay.
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He has to drink,
if he can,
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sixty to ninety
seconds.
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He drinks the medication, and
that will put him in a coma,
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within a matter of minutes,
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and after that...
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We wait for me to die.
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Yeah, and we can never predict
how long that’ll take.
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Now, Roger, uh, I talked to
the other woman in there,
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and she said the stuff tastes
pretty nasty,
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you could have some juice
or something in there
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to take the taste out.
I want to see if...
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Yeah, I’d like to have something...
We have cream soda.
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Oh, you do. Okay.
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Do you want to get that ready,
in case Roger wanted some?
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Bring the goddamn glass, already.
Roger, wait a minute.
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Before you take it,
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I’m gonna ask you those two
questions again, Sure.
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and I’m serious, you have
the right to change your mind.
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My mind’s not changing.
All right,
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and what will this medication do?
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It will kill me, and make me happy.
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We can hand you the medication now,
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and we ask you to drink it,
in sixty to ninety seconds.
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You don’t have to gulp it,
just take it slowly.
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It tastes, pretty bad,
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but you have here a soft
drink to chase it down with
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afterwards, if you cannot
take it solely.
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Mmm-hmm.
Do you have any final words
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you’d like to say to your family?
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I thank you all for being here.
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We love you, Rog.
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We’ll leave you alone.
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I thank the
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wisdom
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of the voters of the state of Oregon,
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for allowing me
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the honor
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of doing myself in
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at my own volition,
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to solve my own problems.
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So, thank you all.
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We love you.
We love you, Rog.
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I don’t really want
to watch this part.
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Well, it’s kind of too late now.
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You don’t have to gulp it, Roger.
You can drink it slowly.
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Slow it down.
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Can somebody wipe my chin?
Sure.
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Tastes like wood.
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He’s never been a drinker, so he
wouldn’t know it.
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What wood is?
Not about wood alcohol.
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Ready?
Lift him, lift him.
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Ah, it’s comin’.
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Ah, it’s comin’.
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For my head is hanging low,
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I hear the gentle voices calling.
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Old, black Joe.
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I thank you all,
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particularly the team
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that prepared the medicine.
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Tell the next person that it
tastes "woody,"
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but it is not,
it is not rejectable.
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It was easy, folks.
It was easy.
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Good-bye, Roger.
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Gordon Green, doctor dropped a
prescription off for me this morning.
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Gordon Green?
Yes.
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I have Blue Cross Regency,
First Choice 65.
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Do you have your card with you?
You bet,
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I didn’t think this would
be covered.
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All righty,
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your total, sir, comes to $89.52.
Mmm-hmm.
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There’s your merchandise.
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There’s your card back.
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Thank you very much.
Well, thank you.
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and have a very good day.
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I’m going to, everyday’s a
good one.
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How you doin’?
Fine.
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Yeah, we’ll hurry home.
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Where do you want this?
I’ll take it.
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I’ve gotta find out if
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I have to refrigerate it,
or not.
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Apparently not,
it didn’t say nothin’.
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This here is the final medicine
I’ll have to take.
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Hi Sue, this is Gordon,
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I know it’s Sunday,
and I just leave a message for ya.
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Yeah, I picked up the medication
today,
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at Buy Mart, and we have it here,
in the house.
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Have a good day, and a good weekend.
Good-bye.
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There, oh boy.
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Well, I’m glad that’s done.
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Yes, that was easier
than I thought.
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Yeah.
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Hi Sue, this is Gordon. I know it’s
Sunday, and I just leave a message for ya.
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I feel very privileged
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to be on the forefront of
such a vital
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medical, social and political
movement.
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What I think about when I’m meeting
someone for the first time,
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is, there’s always some anxiety,
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and I think that that anxiety
is productive.
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I would never want to become,
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uh, laissez faire about this
whole process.
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And what I think about is,
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are they going to understand
exactly what it is
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they’re pursuing, and what
the process is?
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And also, what’s almost always
foremost on my mind,
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is that they know, that they are
in charge.
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That they’re the boss.
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Hi Elizabeth.
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Hi Mrs. Lucke,
I’m Sue Porter, with Compassion.
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We’ve talked on the phone a few
times regarding
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wanting to make your own end
of life choices,
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and getting a medication
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to maybe, end your life,
if that’s what you choose to do.
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So, I’m here to...
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These people
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have lost so much control,
and they tell us repeatedly
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that they want the medication,
for control.
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Whether they take the medication,
or whether they don’t,
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at least, they can make
that decision.
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Unfortunately, I was diagnosed
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with ALS, about a year ago,
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and I just received my
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uh, six months diagnosis
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to live.
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I still can walk, with difficulty,
but that’s when
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that ends, then I’m gonna
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you know, be makin’
that decision.
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So, Gail, how do you react to
everything that Peter is saying?
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This is the way he’s thought
for a long time,
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it’s just gonna be hard,
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we’ve been together for
a long time,
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and, uh,
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he’s wonderful, even now.
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He helps me in many ways.
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This is the
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request for medication,
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to end my life in a humane
and dignified manner.
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You will sign this, Peter, and
then you will have
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two witnesses sign it
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and what they say is that
you’re of sound mind,
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and you, you might find that
the time that is in your mind,
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of when you can’t walk anymore
Mmm-hmm.
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might change, that changes all the
time with people. Yup.
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and there is nothing set
Right.
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in stone. Okay? I understand that.
I appreciate it.
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Everything’s ready then.
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Okay.
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There’s a very, fine line here
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of never, ever, ever wanting them
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to think that we are selling
a process.
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We’re not. What we’re doing is
offering choice,
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and so as I communicate with people,
and as I contact them
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I really, always want
to be sensitive
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to that principle.
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Oh, make sure and request
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Seconal. You want the one
that costs less?
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I don’t know. Which one is it,
that you just drink?
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That’s Nembutal. Actually, I see
it in these notes right here.
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Uh, Nembutal...
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We, uh, Mrs. Wakefield, we cannot
quote these prices for sure,
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Yeah, right.
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I understand. but Nembutal is
well over a $1,000
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Seconal is $130.
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I go into these situations
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with a certain amount of pragmatism,
because I have to.
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If it were all emotional, I couldn’t
do this work.
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Hi Sue!
Hello Donna, how are you?
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Pretty good, how you doin’?
Just fine, thank you.
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Good to see you.
It’s good to see you, too.
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Hi Gordon!
Hi Sue.
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You’re lookin’ great.
Thank you.
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Sit up.
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Uhm,
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Donna or Gordon, do you have the medication?
Yes.
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Down in the lower drawer, way in
the back, right hand side.
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Yeah, we picked it up.
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No problems.
Great.
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Everything went well.
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We hope it stays right
there, but, uh,
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if I’m in that bed, and I’m
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racked up with a stroke or
somethin’ like that
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that’s when I want it.
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I’m not gonna lay there and
be a burden to her.
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You know,
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I saw my dad for twelve years
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with a stroke, and one whole
side was gone.
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Says it’s like livin’ in a barrel.
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See out, hear everything,
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physically couldn’t do anything,
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and he kept saying, "I just
want out."
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And my mom ended up the same way.
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She wanted out.
Oh.
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And I couldn’t, I didn’t
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figure why they’d want
to do that,
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but I understand now.
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You can only handle about so much
garbage, you know,
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and then you’ve had it.
Mmm-hmm.
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And uh...
but I’ll handle it until
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somethin’ like that happens.
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Okay.
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So, you got Seconal.
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There’s three different medications here.
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I know we’ve talked about this before,
but you know,
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we represent choice, we don’t represent death.
Oh yeah.
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So, um,
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if you were ever going to make the choice
to take this medication,
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this is how it would work.
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I’d ask you two questions.
First of all:
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You have the right to change your mind.
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And secondly,
I would ask you
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to explain to me what this medication
is going to do.
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And you have the choice of doing this
any way you want.
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You could have just Donna here.
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You could have friends here.
Nah.
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Just this one.
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You can always change your mind.
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Mmm-hmm.
It’s totally up to you.
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And then, what this is,
is Seconal.
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In Seconal, there’s a hundred
capsules in here.
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You don’t take a hundred capsules.
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That would take me all day.
Yeah, exactly.
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I would be exhausted.
Yeah, yeah.
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What, um, I would do is open ’em up
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and um, empty the powder
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and then add six ounces of room
temperature water.
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I’d have a good, cold beer to wash
that down.
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Yeah. You could have whatever
you want.
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Um, this has to be consumed in
about a minute,
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or minute and a half.
Oh, that’s a piece of cake.
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and normally, uh, people go
into a coma,
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really Gordon,
within a few minutes.
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Oh, the heart’s so bad it wouldn’t
handle it.
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Yeah. I mean it should pop it
right off the bat.
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I’m getting little episodes damn
near every day now.
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You are?
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So I don’t think I’m going to need
that, but I wanna just
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just go in there, lay down some
day and go to sleep, and not wake up.
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That’s the decent thing to do.
Mmm-hmm.
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So for once in my life,
I’ll be decent.
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I’m feeling good. We can
do this again.
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It’s not the last one.
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I’d forgotten how steep
these hills are.
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Okay...
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shall we... I think this is...
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Well, actually,
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should we try and go to the top?
I’m good for it.
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What if it’s uphill on the way back?
Should we...
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Okay, well you can carry me back.
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Okay.
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I am feeling so good. I got
a lot done
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this morning, already. I went
to Goodwill.
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Oh, which reminds me, I was going
to invite people to shop my closet
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but you guys could go first.
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You’ve gotta touch the tree.
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Chris said she wanted an old
sweat suit, shirt of yours.
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She did? She wants that green
hoodie. I thought
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that’s a good idea, then I thought
what do I want?
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And then I said,
"Can I have the Volvo?"
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You may borrow it
any time.
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Um, well, I think
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we can loop back down.
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through the...
How are you feeling?
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I’m good. Actually,
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if you want the Volvo,
Stan will probably...
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In November of 07, I had a terrible
stomach ache.
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It was kind of pain that takes your
breath away, which I never, ever have.
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So, I hike myself into the
doctor a few weeks later.
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She ordered an
ultrasound for me,
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and she got the results of the ultrasound,
then she called me into her office
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and then she burst into tears.
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Um,
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and she said,
"You have a big mass on your liver."
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Cody had a primary cancer of the liver
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that was roughly the size of
a grapefruit.
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It was the type of cancer that we
don’t have any good
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chemotherapy agents for,
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or any good radiation
agents for. So,
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it’s the type of cancer that
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is treated surgically,
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or we don’t have a lot of
effective options for.
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We kind of had the one shot
of taking it all out and
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and, hoping that that was going
to be enough for her.
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I had the first surgery.
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It seemed to have gone all right
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and then there were complications,
and I ended up in the ICU,
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um, in the hospital for fifty days.
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I was in a coma
for quite a while.
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And all of a sudden
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I open my eyes really wide
and said,
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"What is happening to me?"
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The night before
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her second procedure,
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she was supposed to be taking
pain medication, pills,
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and she was throwing up and
couldn’t keep the pills down.
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So, the pain medication was
wearing off
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and she said then you know,
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"I don’t ever want
another night like that."
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If she had died in the hospital
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it really would have felt like
she was pulled out of our hands
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because then you’re still
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fighting to keep her.
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And that’s what hospitals are about.
It’s about that fight to keep people alive.
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I had to learn to walk again.
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I couldn’t eat. I couldn’t go to the
bathroom by myself. I couldn’t shower by myself.
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I fell and I couldn’t get up.
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It took six months before I was able
to take care of myself again.
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We were actually all starting to feel
that maybe we’d dodged the bullet,
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and then the radiologist said
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"You know there was something that looked
a little funny on the CAT Scan."
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I saw it, and had to give her that
call saying that
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there was obvious cancer recurrence.
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The cancer was back and we didn’t have
any really good options for her.
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The outcomes for this disease
have not changed
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in 30 years.
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If you can cut it out, great.
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If you miss any cancer,
it’ll be back
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and it’ll be more aggressive.
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She said, "If this comes back,
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I know that I don’t have
any good treatment options
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and I want to be able to
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have that in reserve,
the Death with Dignity Law."
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It kind of shocked me thinking about
it in the intellectual realm
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of, this is a law that supports
my values versus
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I’m actually going
to take a pen
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and write a prescription
for something that will
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end someone’s life.
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What really settled the
decision for me was
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talking to my sister, who’s a
breast cancer survivor,
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and I talked to her
about how much I really
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really liked this woman and how
much we had been through together.
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I mean, we had slogged
through a year together
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in a very close, very intimate
relationship as,
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as patient and
doctor, and how
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fond of her I was and fond of
her family I was.
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Um, my sister
just said, "Well,
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of course you’re going to do it.
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You have to help her.
You’re her doctor."
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And that’s really the deciding
point for me.
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If I had an option I would prefer not
to die, thank you very much.
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Um, but given that I know I’m going
to die, does an extra three months
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if, um, of
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fluid leaking through my pores
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sound that great?
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Well, no.
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I’d rather go when I’m still
feeling okay
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and when I can still communicate
with my family.
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She cares a lot about her kids.
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She’s also
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very dignified.
I think
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when she looks sick,
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for her that’s very difficult,
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because she wants to present herself
as being healthy.
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I grew up in the country.
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We put our dogs and our horses down.
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We didn’t let animals suffer.
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I think Cody taught me
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that, first do no harm,
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is going to be different
for every patient.
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Harm for her would have meant
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taking away the control
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and saying, "No, no, no.
You’ve got to do this
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the way your body decides,
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as opposed to the way
you, as a person, decides."
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Sorry.
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Did you have a shooting pain?
Ah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Are you taking any pain medication
or anything?
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I got some today
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because this kind of pain
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is kind of scary.
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But I haven’t taken any.
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I never take...
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I just...
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But it’s pretty clear that
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that kind of
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pain takes away your ability
to make decisions, too.
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Let’s see.
So, here are the drugs.
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It’s very comforting to know that
they’re right here
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and I don’t have to go through
any more bureaucracy,
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I don’t have to take another
trip to the pharmacy.
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Um, they’re here.
The, the...
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it’s whenever I decide.
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It’s not that anything
that I have to do.
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It’s not like in the hospital where I was told,
"You have to have another
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CT Scan or we’re
taking you down to, to
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do another procedure."
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It’s, it’s my choice
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when to take them and
whether to take them.
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My volunteer has told me
that I’ll know
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and I just have to trust
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when my life isn’t
worth living anymore.
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It’s a pretty day,
that’s pretty amazing.
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When you guys were little we
brought spare pants, and
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and spare shoes for you, but
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we didn’t do any of that this time.
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It feels a little bit like,
I’m a dead woman walking.
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It’s this curious limbo of
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getting a diagnosis that’s
this dire
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and having this
period where
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you don’t know what’s really
going to happen, except
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with Death with Dignity,
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you do have some control over
what’s going to happen.
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00:24:11,283 --> 00:24:13,368
You can offer that
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to your family.
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00:24:16,238 --> 00:24:18,907
So, is the tide
going in or out?
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Yup.
Very funny.
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00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:27,049
And so it means, you can have
some good times
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and go for a walk
409
00:24:29,051 --> 00:24:33,589
and go back
to the coast
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and have things be as normal as
possible without being focused on
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"When’s she going to die?"
Because you know that.
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00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:48,604
My son, the engineer
and mathematician
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has a little trouble with this
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and he hasn’t talked to me very
much about it.
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00:24:53,609 --> 00:24:58,330
When she found out, like a month ago,
that she had cancer again,
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um, that was pretty surprising.
417
00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:03,785
She called me on the phone.
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00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:06,539
The way that she broke
the news is that
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"The cancer’s come back.
I have six months to live
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and things are going to be fine.
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00:25:13,295 --> 00:25:16,799
Uh, and it’s gonna, like,
things are going to be fine?
422
00:25:16,832 --> 00:25:19,335
Six months to live and I’m not going
to do anything?
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00:25:19,385 --> 00:25:22,505
Ah, that sounds like the opposite
of fine.
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00:25:24,473 --> 00:25:30,429
How do you tell her that things
are not going to be fine?
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My rational was,
you know, you have two choices
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either you can blow up on her
over the phone,
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when she just found out she
had cancer,
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00:25:39,655 --> 00:25:43,108
um, and make her feel
even worse,
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00:25:44,326 --> 00:25:46,445
or you can just
be comforting
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and say,
"Okay, I’m sorry."
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Um, and I chose
the latter.
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Oh T, you made me
come up here...
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T said, "I know you’re struggling,
but if you
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aren’t struggling for you, would you
struggle for me?
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And of,
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of course I would if I thought
there were a real chance
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but there’s not.
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00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:19,478
Uh oh.
439
00:26:23,282 --> 00:26:24,450
Thank you.
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00:26:26,652 --> 00:26:30,289
It still feels kind of like ah,
441
00:26:30,322 --> 00:26:33,292
you give up when you don’t try
everything out there
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00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:35,327
but I still think that’s the
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the rational and, I think,
the right thing to do to not
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not try and seek
every option because
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00:26:41,250 --> 00:26:44,053
95 percent she’s
only going to gain
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ah, two or three months.
That’s a lot of extra pain.
447
00:26:48,507 --> 00:26:51,727
Ah, and uh,
448
00:26:52,761 --> 00:26:56,348
and a lot of extra cost.
449
00:26:56,398 --> 00:27:01,103
This is not a good idea.
Whose idea was this?
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00:27:01,153 --> 00:27:04,356
I know it’s hard for them,
but they’re great.
451
00:27:04,356 --> 00:27:08,110
Beautiful, beautiful!
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00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,164
I know they’ll be fine. I’ve writing
them letters, so I’m thinking about...
453
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That’s, that’s the other wonderful
thing about this Death with Dignity.
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It gives me a chance to think about how
I want to leave things with them at the end.
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The, the images...
456
00:27:38,106 --> 00:27:39,891
Sorry.
457
00:27:45,898 --> 00:27:50,035
There are moments where she is just
so ready to go.
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She doesn’t like being sick
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00:27:52,905 --> 00:27:56,208
and then there are the days when she,
you know,
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healthy and grateful to be alive.
461
00:28:04,716 --> 00:28:07,586
I’m not going to die with the fluid
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oozing out of my pores in my legs.
463
00:28:10,305 --> 00:28:13,225
I’m not going to weigh
200 pounds again.
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00:28:13,258 --> 00:28:16,812
I’m not going
to lose my hair, again.
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00:28:16,845 --> 00:28:20,148
I am not going to be
humiliated
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00:28:20,232 --> 00:28:23,435
with losing control
of my bodily functions again.
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00:28:24,603 --> 00:28:27,656
This is, will be tidy and,
468
00:28:27,689 --> 00:28:30,025
while not easy for my family
469
00:28:30,075 --> 00:28:32,694
it’s a lot better
than the alternatives.
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00:28:36,248 --> 00:28:39,501
She says it’ll be easy, but I think
it’ll be hard for us
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00:28:39,534 --> 00:28:42,670
uh, when, when she does
472
00:28:42,704 --> 00:28:44,956
you know, take,
473
00:28:45,007 --> 00:28:47,376
take the drink and uh,
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00:28:47,426 --> 00:28:50,930
final rest really um,
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00:28:50,963 --> 00:28:52,515
but I plan to be there.
476
00:29:00,522 --> 00:29:03,608
Hello. My name is Odill,
477
00:29:03,642 --> 00:29:06,778
and I was wondering if you have
any information like um,
478
00:29:06,812 --> 00:29:10,983
written information or anything
like that. I’m considering it
479
00:29:10,983 --> 00:29:13,068
within um, the
next few months.
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00:29:14,152 --> 00:29:16,321
That’s it. Thanks.
481
00:29:19,708 --> 00:29:22,044
My name is Derek Humphry.
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00:29:22,077 --> 00:29:24,079
I’m a journalist and author,
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00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:28,834
President of the Euthanasia Research
and Guidance Organization,
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00:29:28,917 --> 00:29:33,422
founder of the Hemlock Society,
thirty years ago.
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00:29:33,472 --> 00:29:36,225
The Hemlock Society’s mission was,
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00:29:36,258 --> 00:29:38,677
A, to help people
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with their problems of dying
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00:29:40,929 --> 00:29:42,564
here and now,
489
00:29:42,597 --> 00:29:44,265
and secondly,
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00:29:44,316 --> 00:29:46,185
uh, to change the law
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in the best way possible,
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00:29:47,769 --> 00:29:50,522
democratically across America
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00:29:50,572 --> 00:29:54,860
to allow the choice in dying.
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00:29:54,910 --> 00:29:58,697
I became involved
in the issue in 1975
495
00:29:58,747 --> 00:30:02,034
when my first wife
was dying of cancer,
496
00:30:02,084 --> 00:30:05,037
and ah, I had
no knowledge of
497
00:30:05,087 --> 00:30:08,040
euthanasia movement or right to die,
or anything.
498
00:30:08,123 --> 00:30:10,292
In those days,
it wasn’t a public issue
499
00:30:10,342 --> 00:30:13,712
you would be very unlikely to
know anything about it.
500
00:30:13,762 --> 00:30:17,466
Last night an instructional video tape
shown on television in Oregon
501
00:30:17,516 --> 00:30:20,469
sounds harmless until
you consider the tape
502
00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:23,222
is a step by step guide
to committing suicide.
503
00:30:23,221 --> 00:30:25,306
NBC’s Dan Lothian
has the story.
504
00:30:31,730 --> 00:30:34,449
How to die, now
on television.
505
00:30:34,483 --> 00:30:36,368
From mixing
the lethal brew,
506
00:30:36,401 --> 00:30:38,954
to finding the
right gas and bag.
507
00:30:38,987 --> 00:30:42,991
Then find a clear plastic bag,
just big enough to go over the head.
508
00:30:43,041 --> 00:30:44,543
A step by step,
509
00:30:44,576 --> 00:30:46,912
do-it-yourself program
from Derek Humphry,
510
00:30:46,962 --> 00:30:50,799
the author of the best seller’s
suicide guide, Final Exit.
511
00:30:50,832 --> 00:30:55,086
This is my average daily mail.
These are all
512
00:30:55,137 --> 00:30:58,007
uh, copies
of Final Exit
513
00:30:58,056 --> 00:31:00,675
or The Good Euthanasia Guide.
514
00:31:00,726 --> 00:31:04,346
Compassion and Choices, which is
a national organization
515
00:31:04,396 --> 00:31:07,933
took over the Hemlock Society
a few years ago,
516
00:31:07,933 --> 00:31:10,736
and then there’s a very fine,
little group
517
00:31:10,769 --> 00:31:13,438
Compassion and
Choices of Oregon.
518
00:31:13,488 --> 00:31:15,323
The key to
the Oregon law,
519
00:31:15,357 --> 00:31:19,278
and why it passed and why doctors
have accepted this,
520
00:31:19,327 --> 00:31:23,698
is that the doctor does not actually
kill the patient.
521
00:31:23,749 --> 00:31:25,985
The patient kills themself.
522
00:31:26,017 --> 00:31:27,785
The American
Medical Association
523
00:31:27,786 --> 00:31:32,291
like nearly all medical associations
throughout the world, ah,
524
00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:35,043
are against euthanasia
525
00:31:35,093 --> 00:31:38,380
ah, which is direct injection.
526
00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:41,800
The sort of thing that Dr. Kevorkian
did that got him in prison
527
00:31:41,850 --> 00:31:45,771
for nine years.
Direct injection into the vein.
528
00:31:45,804 --> 00:31:48,023
The Oregon law has
been thoroughly tested
529
00:31:48,106 --> 00:31:53,061
and now its time to try to get
it going in other states.
530
00:31:53,111 --> 00:31:57,899
The right to die movement recently
tried to pass a law in Washington State
531
00:31:57,949 --> 00:32:00,952
which is similar to Oregon’s law.
532
00:32:00,986 --> 00:32:02,488
It was quite a contest.
533
00:32:52,037 --> 00:32:54,756
All these photographs, I look at and
534
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:59,427
I can just see it, how much
in love I was
535
00:32:59,461 --> 00:33:02,464
and how much I just adored him.
536
00:33:02,514 --> 00:33:04,266
I can see it on my face,
537
00:33:04,299 --> 00:33:06,518
and I can see it on his face,
538
00:33:06,551 --> 00:33:10,772
and I can feel it
as if it were yesterday
539
00:33:10,805 --> 00:33:13,641
that what I felt when
this picture was taken.
540
00:33:13,692 --> 00:33:17,896
I just thought I was the luckiest
person in the world to have met him,
541
00:33:17,946 --> 00:33:20,482
and I was.
I was.
542
00:33:22,817 --> 00:33:25,903
At the age of 55,
in the year 2000,
543
00:33:25,904 --> 00:33:31,827
went to a doctor and found out that
Randy had brain and spinal cord cancer.
544
00:33:31,877 --> 00:33:35,214
Which is a very, very
grim diagnosis,
545
00:33:35,247 --> 00:33:39,134
and we knew that this was gonna
be how he was going to die.
546
00:33:39,167 --> 00:33:42,003
And the treatment for it,
it is very harsh.
547
00:33:42,087 --> 00:33:46,008
And creates a lot of side
effects that can be even
548
00:33:46,057 --> 00:33:48,092
worse than dying.
549
00:33:48,093 --> 00:33:51,229
He had surgery that removed
part of the tumor
550
00:33:51,263 --> 00:33:53,432
in June of 2000.
551
00:33:53,481 --> 00:33:56,818
Then he went through months
of radiation treatment.
552
00:33:56,902 --> 00:33:59,521
He had three different
kinds of chemotherapy
553
00:33:59,571 --> 00:34:03,191
and they took out his medulo,
on one side of his head
554
00:34:03,241 --> 00:34:07,078
which controls balance. He was then
stumbling and falling all the time,
555
00:34:07,112 --> 00:34:11,617
cut open his head. I’d come home
from work and find him bleeding.
556
00:34:11,666 --> 00:34:16,955
Then in 2005, the cancer came back
and Randy
557
00:34:17,005 --> 00:34:22,027
decided he didn’t want to continue
treatment and he said, "No, I’m done."
558
00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:26,548
He told hospice that he wanted them
to help him
559
00:34:26,598 --> 00:34:29,935
and give him some aid in dying when
he felt the time was right,
560
00:34:29,968 --> 00:34:32,804
and they said,
"We can’t help you. It’s illegal."
561
00:34:32,854 --> 00:34:35,306
So, he told them that he wanted
to move to Oregon
562
00:34:35,307 --> 00:34:37,226
’cause he knew
it was legal there.
563
00:34:37,275 --> 00:34:40,645
They said, "You’re not going to live
long enough to be able to establish residency."
564
00:34:40,695 --> 00:34:43,982
He said, "Then, if you can’t help me,
I guess I don’t need you."
565
00:34:45,066 --> 00:34:47,118
After that, things got bad.
566
00:34:47,152 --> 00:34:49,988
He was in a hospital bed 24/7.
567
00:34:50,021 --> 00:34:52,574
He couldn’t control
his arms and legs
568
00:34:52,624 --> 00:34:55,794
and he’d be
just screaming in pain.
569
00:34:55,827 --> 00:34:58,663
Probably one of the worst is that
he became incontinent,
570
00:34:58,713 --> 00:35:01,049
and he had to be in diapers
571
00:35:01,082 --> 00:35:03,334
and he hated that.
572
00:35:03,368 --> 00:35:07,505
He had double vision and then his
eyes started popping out of his head
573
00:35:07,555 --> 00:35:11,175
from the tumors, so he couldn’t
close his eyes.
574
00:35:12,227 --> 00:35:15,564
A year after
this picture was taken
575
00:35:15,597 --> 00:35:20,102
and we were up at the hospital,
and they were asking Randy for his
576
00:35:20,151 --> 00:35:23,354
Medicare card.
577
00:35:23,355 --> 00:35:26,358
The person at check-in assumed he
was 80 years old.
578
00:35:26,358 --> 00:35:30,529
So, in one year of looking like
this to the next year,
579
00:35:30,578 --> 00:35:32,747
they thought this
was an 80 year old man.
580
00:35:33,698 --> 00:35:34,999
And he would,
581
00:35:35,033 --> 00:35:37,752
every day talk to me
about how he felt,
582
00:35:37,786 --> 00:35:40,372
that he was half in his body
and half out,
583
00:35:40,372 --> 00:35:43,759
and he’d say that he could feel
himself leaving his body
584
00:35:43,792 --> 00:35:46,461
and then feel himself
going back into his body
585
00:35:46,511 --> 00:35:48,880
and he said,
"Nancy, I’m trying to figure out
586
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,716
how do I stay
out of my body?
587
00:35:51,766 --> 00:35:57,438
How do I get out and stay permanently out?
I don’t want to come back."
588
00:35:57,522 --> 00:36:01,976
There was nothing
I could do, but
to hold his hand.
589
00:36:02,027 --> 00:36:05,030
That was it.
590
00:36:05,063 --> 00:36:07,115
Six weeks before
his death he said,
591
00:36:07,148 --> 00:36:10,201
"Nancy, this is going to get
really painful. It’s going to get ugly.
592
00:36:10,235 --> 00:36:12,454
Promise me that you’ll help
change the law."
593
00:36:12,487 --> 00:36:16,741
And I said, "Yes, I promise you that
I will change this law," and I had no idea
594
00:36:16,791 --> 00:36:19,327
how I was going to do that, or how
that would happen.
595
00:36:19,377 --> 00:36:22,747
I had no thought about when
it would happen
596
00:36:22,747 --> 00:36:26,417
or how long it was going to take when
I made that promise to Randy, it’s just
597
00:36:26,418 --> 00:36:30,806
when you love somebody you say,
"Yes, I promise you I will."
598
00:36:30,839 --> 00:36:33,258
And you figure out the rest later.
599
00:36:37,762 --> 00:36:41,182
About six, seven months
after he died,
600
00:36:41,232 --> 00:36:45,770
I spoke to some of the employees
of Compassion and Choices and told them
601
00:36:45,820 --> 00:36:48,323
what Randy had wanted
and I said, "You know,
602
00:36:48,356 --> 00:36:51,659
"I’m willing to do anything, anything.
This is what my husband wanted
603
00:36:51,693 --> 00:36:53,828
and I will do anything."
604
00:36:53,862 --> 00:36:58,784
And then they contacted me and let me
know they were going to be going down to
605
00:36:58,833 --> 00:37:00,752
our state capital in Olympia
606
00:37:00,785 --> 00:37:04,122
and they asked me if I’d be willing
to go down and speak.
607
00:37:04,122 --> 00:37:06,207
And I said, "Absolutely,"
608
00:37:06,257 --> 00:37:08,593
and that’s how I got started.
609
00:37:08,626 --> 00:37:10,628
I have not signed yet.
610
00:37:10,628 --> 00:37:13,264
I had asked the campaign
611
00:37:13,298 --> 00:37:16,601
if they’d be willing to let me
be the last signature
612
00:37:16,634 --> 00:37:19,770
and they said, "Yes, absolutely,"
that I could do that.
613
00:37:39,824 --> 00:37:42,627
My name is Nancy Niedzielski.
614
00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:47,632
Two years ago, this month my husband,
Randy, died from brain cancer.
615
00:37:47,665 --> 00:37:52,920
Please help me fulfill the final promise
that I made to my husband
616
00:37:52,971 --> 00:37:55,757
by making Death with Dignity legal
617
00:37:55,807 --> 00:37:59,010
by voting yes on I-1000.
618
00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:00,311
Thank you.
619
00:38:07,986 --> 00:38:10,188
When I finally signed the ballot,
620
00:38:10,188 --> 00:38:12,857
I was so overwhelmed
by the emotion of it
621
00:38:12,857 --> 00:38:16,194
that I was actually having a
hard time signing my signature.
622
00:38:16,244 --> 00:38:21,499
One step forward.
On to November. I was shaking.
623
00:38:21,533 --> 00:38:27,039
This is for you Randy. I love
you most of all and then some.
624
00:39:37,275 --> 00:39:41,913
I think for a while I felt like
everybody was waiting for me to die.
625
00:39:41,946 --> 00:39:44,031
I don’t feel like that anymore.
626
00:39:46,501 --> 00:39:48,787
I feel like myself again.
627
00:39:48,836 --> 00:39:51,288
For the first time,
since this all started
628
00:39:52,173 --> 00:39:53,875
I feel quite perky.
629
00:39:55,293 --> 00:39:56,594
It’s kind of
630
00:39:56,628 --> 00:39:58,797
discombobulating in a way.
It’s like,
631
00:39:58,846 --> 00:40:01,298
"I’m supposed
to be really sick,"
632
00:40:01,349 --> 00:40:04,435
but I feel great
633
00:40:04,469 --> 00:40:08,640
which is pretty cool, actually.
I may have another Christmas with the kids.
634
00:40:10,725 --> 00:40:13,478
So, things seem
635
00:40:13,478 --> 00:40:16,765
really kind of
almost back to normal.
636
00:40:18,283 --> 00:40:20,819
It’s a new normal.
It’s a different normal.
637
00:40:33,514 --> 00:40:36,000
I wouldn’t set
a date again.
638
00:40:36,050 --> 00:40:39,303
When you’re first diagnosed you
want to have some certainty and
639
00:40:39,337 --> 00:40:41,840
and setting a date
gives you that certainty,
640
00:40:43,141 --> 00:40:45,343
but it’s a false
kind of certainty.
641
00:40:47,011 --> 00:40:49,764
I was supposed to
have six months.
642
00:40:49,814 --> 00:40:51,733
Death with Dignity
luckily doesn’t
643
00:40:51,766 --> 00:40:55,737
enforce that because I just blew
through my six months
644
00:40:55,770 --> 00:40:59,357
and should anything dramatic happen,
I’m prepared.
645
00:40:59,407 --> 00:41:02,076
But in the meantime,
I can just forget about it.
646
00:41:03,695 --> 00:41:06,031
It’s been really great
for Stan and me,
647
00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:09,500
’cause we’ve gotten a summer
vacation we totally didn’t expect,
648
00:41:09,534 --> 00:41:13,788
it’s been time that we
are grateful for.
649
00:41:13,838 --> 00:41:16,874
So it’s been a great summer.
It’s been a golden summer.
650
00:41:19,594 --> 00:41:23,381
And you can’t help
having a little
651
00:41:23,431 --> 00:41:28,052
flicker of, "Well,
maybe I won’t die.
652
00:41:29,303 --> 00:41:32,606
Maybe I could live
another twenty years,"
653
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,393
but what I try and do
is transmute that into,
654
00:41:35,443 --> 00:41:37,562
"Wow, this
is a great day."
655
00:41:41,616 --> 00:41:43,201
That awareness
656
00:41:43,234 --> 00:41:45,820
that every day
I get to make a meal,
657
00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:47,972
that I get to
658
00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:51,209
kiss my husband, that I get to talk
to my children
659
00:41:51,242 --> 00:41:52,910
one more day.
660
00:41:59,967 --> 00:42:01,302
That’s great.
661
00:42:05,423 --> 00:42:07,258
How are you doing?
662
00:42:07,258 --> 00:42:10,595
I feel really good.
So that’s good.
Good.
663
00:42:10,595 --> 00:42:12,931
So yesterday we had breakfast
together, with,
664
00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:14,565
Sunday with the kids, and
665
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:16,985
I could tell Cody was getting
a little bit tired.
666
00:42:17,018 --> 00:42:19,988
I said, "Well, maybe we should take
a little break." She said,
667
00:42:20,021 --> 00:42:23,658
"No, we’re going for a walk,"
and we went up to the top of the hill.
668
00:42:23,691 --> 00:42:27,161
We touched the tree and we marched back
down again. Thank you very much.
669
00:42:27,195 --> 00:42:28,663
All righty then.
670
00:42:28,696 --> 00:42:32,166
Shh, shh! People have said,
by the way, that
671
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,120
she’s more beautiful than ever.
It’s only because I’m thin.
672
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:38,005
That’s the only reason, which
is kind of upsetting because
673
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:39,757
that’s the way
our society works.
674
00:42:39,791 --> 00:42:42,794
I was just going to say this is
not a good message.
675
00:42:42,844 --> 00:42:46,214
It’s not. Jill and I have had several
conversations about this because,
676
00:42:46,264 --> 00:42:49,434
"Oh, you look great."
People you haven’t seen before,
677
00:42:49,467 --> 00:42:52,353
"Yeah, been on the cancer
diet, thanks very much."
678
00:42:52,386 --> 00:42:54,889
I mean I just don’t understand
why I’m feeling good.
679
00:42:54,939 --> 00:42:57,475
Um, and I would like
to know how much longer.
680
00:43:00,311 --> 00:43:03,114
And I know nobody knows that.
681
00:43:03,147 --> 00:43:05,650
The honest truth is
I’d just be guessing.
682
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:09,988
You’re not showing signs or I’m
not hearing from you signs of liver
683
00:43:09,987 --> 00:43:11,405
function problems.
684
00:43:11,456 --> 00:43:13,291
Meaning, I’m not seeing
685
00:43:13,324 --> 00:43:17,995
you’re bleeding really easily
or bruising copiously,
686
00:43:18,045 --> 00:43:20,631
You’re not getting
fluid build-up in your belly.
687
00:43:20,665 --> 00:43:23,835
Right. Well, I am getting a little
bloating. Um, Uh-huh.
688
00:43:23,885 --> 00:43:26,504
it does seem like that is,
689
00:43:26,554 --> 00:43:29,674
is sticking out more.
The pooch is sticking out more?
690
00:43:29,674 --> 00:43:30,925
Yeah.
691
00:43:30,975 --> 00:43:32,894
What I’m kind of
talking about would be fluid
692
00:43:32,927 --> 00:43:35,346
where you really
almost look kinda pregnant.
693
00:43:35,396 --> 00:43:37,315
Oh.
It’s like a really significant
694
00:43:37,348 --> 00:43:40,484
fluid buildup. Have you ever seen
anyone with liver failure or
695
00:43:40,518 --> 00:43:44,105
who gets that kind of bloat?
I’ve read about it, I have not seen it.
696
00:43:44,155 --> 00:43:45,657
It’s not subtle.
697
00:43:45,690 --> 00:43:48,109
In terms of time,
that’s the hard part.
698
00:43:48,159 --> 00:43:50,161
I don’t know when
699
00:43:50,194 --> 00:43:52,863
the tumors are going to obstruct
enough bile ducts
700
00:43:52,914 --> 00:43:56,785
to give you a pool of bile and put
it at risk for getting infected.
701
00:43:56,834 --> 00:44:00,087
It could be something that’s very quick.
It could be that you just
702
00:44:00,121 --> 00:44:02,206
suddenly, two months from now say,
703
00:44:02,256 --> 00:44:04,925
"You know, I’m really weaker than I was
a month ago,"
704
00:44:04,959 --> 00:44:08,045
and then we’ll kind of know that
that’s the beginning.
705
00:44:12,266 --> 00:44:13,851
But I don’t know...
706
00:44:13,885 --> 00:44:15,353
I’d like to
707
00:44:15,386 --> 00:44:18,022
monkey with your drain to see
if I could get kind of a feel
708
00:44:18,055 --> 00:44:19,473
Oh, okay.
... for flushing it.
709
00:44:19,524 --> 00:44:23,194
Um, that might give me a little
bit of information.
710
00:44:25,813 --> 00:44:29,066
I just wanted to kind of get a feel for this.
Mmm-hmm.
711
00:44:29,066 --> 00:44:31,535
Let me know if I give you
the horrible chills.
712
00:44:33,070 --> 00:44:35,372
Oh, it feels
good going in,
713
00:44:37,575 --> 00:44:40,411
and it’s not too chunky coming back,
so that’s good.
714
00:44:41,712 --> 00:44:44,915
Nice olive oil color.
Oh, there’s a few.
715
00:44:46,801 --> 00:44:49,754
There’s a little chunks,
but not a ton.
716
00:44:49,804 --> 00:44:51,589
Now it looks like a good,
717
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:54,509
a good first pressing,
wasn’t that your line?
718
00:44:56,260 --> 00:44:58,095
Now okay that’s good.
719
00:44:58,145 --> 00:45:02,099
So, I’m not seeing a whole bunch of
chunks which would suggest that your,
720
00:45:02,099 --> 00:45:06,103
your drain is becoming obstructed.
721
00:45:06,153 --> 00:45:08,272
What is that?
This is bile.
722
00:45:08,322 --> 00:45:12,610
I just put saline in and its bile,
and then probably some of that solid
723
00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:18,416
particulate matter is probably some
bacteria and possibly some tumor,
724
00:45:18,449 --> 00:45:21,619
hard to say.
Yeah, so
725
00:45:21,669 --> 00:45:25,540
that’s what it looks like.
Really? The tumor is that...
726
00:45:25,590 --> 00:45:29,043
It could be, I can’t tell without a microscope.
...goopy?
727
00:45:29,093 --> 00:45:31,012
But yeah, it could be,
could be.
728
00:45:31,045 --> 00:45:35,550
I’ve tried on some occasions to think
of what it would be like in mom’s shoes
729
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,470
which is shockingly hard.
730
00:45:38,552 --> 00:45:41,388
Being told you’ll die
in just a few months
731
00:45:41,439 --> 00:45:44,943
without having an option of
controlling that.
732
00:45:44,976 --> 00:45:48,530
I think everybody in my family is
a control freak on some level
733
00:45:48,613 --> 00:45:52,233
and I think all of us would like to
have some options of how we’d
734
00:45:52,283 --> 00:45:55,069
like to take control
of our life at the end.
735
00:45:55,152 --> 00:45:58,489
Poor Jilly,
having to go back to DC.
736
00:45:58,539 --> 00:46:02,126
You know T, when you come over
on Saturday’s for breakfast,
737
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:05,996
we can make a family video.
We could have a video chat
738
00:46:05,997 --> 00:46:07,916
Jilly, on Saturday mornings.
739
00:46:07,965 --> 00:46:10,801
I go through periods where
I’m very calm with things
740
00:46:10,835 --> 00:46:13,721
and then I go through periods
where it’s extremely emotional.
741
00:46:13,754 --> 00:46:16,674
Usually those periods are when
I’m thinking about the future,
742
00:46:16,674 --> 00:46:20,228
and the things where I’d want mom
to be there, and she’s not going to be.
743
00:46:20,261 --> 00:46:23,564
One of my highlights from my last
trip was actually her going through
744
00:46:23,597 --> 00:46:26,016
her jewelry and her
scarves with me.
745
00:46:26,067 --> 00:46:28,570
And just, I mean, it was actually
giving them away.
746
00:46:28,602 --> 00:46:32,523
This was, like,
her giving away her objects to me
747
00:46:32,573 --> 00:46:38,112
um, which...there was
a moment where I thought about
748
00:46:38,162 --> 00:46:40,081
she had left
the room to go
749
00:46:40,114 --> 00:46:44,118
find other things, and I was just standing
there folding her scarves, and I thought,
750
00:46:44,168 --> 00:46:47,705
"This would be so different
if mom was already gone."
751
00:46:47,755 --> 00:46:52,343
You know the act of standing here and like,
folding up her scarves, would be
752
00:46:54,045 --> 00:46:57,715
tragic, instead of being something
that we got to share.
753
00:46:57,765 --> 00:47:01,052
U.S. Air, this is it.
Yeah.
754
00:47:02,386 --> 00:47:06,557
I think the kids
just aren’t as worried because
755
00:47:06,557 --> 00:47:09,226
I’m lucky not to be feeling sick.
756
00:47:09,276 --> 00:47:12,362
But who knows how it’s going
to feel in a few months.
757
00:47:12,396 --> 00:47:15,149
In the meantime we’ll all cope,
it’ll be fine.
758
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:18,819
But for right now, they’re able
to go to their work
759
00:47:18,869 --> 00:47:21,155
and take vacation and
760
00:47:21,205 --> 00:47:23,958
think about the things they
should be thinking about
761
00:47:23,991 --> 00:47:26,627
instead of waiting
for me to die.
762
00:47:27,912 --> 00:47:30,965
I’ve done a good job.
They’re flying off.
763
00:47:30,998 --> 00:47:34,218
I don’t need to be calling them
back all the time.
764
00:47:47,064 --> 00:47:49,066
Thanks, sweetie.
765
00:48:00,861 --> 00:48:05,499
From KUOW 94.9 Seattle. The personal
and ethical debate over initiative 1000,
766
00:48:05,533 --> 00:48:09,454
this is Weekday. An anonymous online
survey of physicians showed
767
00:48:09,453 --> 00:48:12,456
fifty percent in favor,
42 percent against.
768
00:48:12,506 --> 00:48:16,260
This whole country has a thing
about death. They’re scared of it.
769
00:48:16,293 --> 00:48:19,346
They don’t even want to talk about it.
When I look at
770
00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:22,266
one of the most important
aspects of good end of life care,
771
00:48:22,299 --> 00:48:27,304
I honestly cannot say that um, having a
Death with Dignity Act is a crucial part.
772
00:48:27,354 --> 00:48:30,641
My father was dead even though
he was alive,
773
00:48:30,691 --> 00:48:33,310
and he had that right
to do what he did
774
00:48:33,310 --> 00:48:36,063
and I support this initiative.
I’ve gotten...
775
00:48:36,113 --> 00:48:39,650
I didn’t know what I was getting into
uhm...
776
00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:41,569
It was scary.
It was tough.
777
00:48:41,619 --> 00:48:45,406
I wasn’t used to being in front of
the press or anything like that.
778
00:48:45,489 --> 00:48:47,157
I’ve never done that before,
779
00:48:47,208 --> 00:48:49,660
but I didn’t care how hard
it was going to be.
780
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:50,961
I had a mission.
781
00:48:50,995 --> 00:48:53,331
Would you like some information
on I-1000?
782
00:48:53,330 --> 00:48:55,833
Would you like some information
on I-1000?
783
00:48:55,883 --> 00:48:58,219
Would you like some information
on I-1000?
784
00:49:00,304 --> 00:49:03,507
No. but I’d love
to talk to you about that possibility.
785
00:49:04,975 --> 00:49:06,760
I would love for you...
786
00:49:06,811 --> 00:49:10,064
I would love for you to talk to me.
You don’t have five minutes?
787
00:49:10,097 --> 00:49:13,317
Officially the Washington State Medical
Association and the
788
00:49:13,350 --> 00:49:16,236
State’s Hospice and Palliative
Care Organization
789
00:49:16,270 --> 00:49:19,406
are opposed to legalizing
physician aid in dying.
790
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,693
This is a society sanctioned death
791
00:49:22,743 --> 00:49:25,412
and I just think a society has
to be asked,
792
00:49:25,446 --> 00:49:28,199
"Is this what we
really, really want?"
793
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:30,785
This is separation
of church and state
794
00:49:30,835 --> 00:49:36,040
and I am very much against religion
telling me what to do.
795
00:49:36,090 --> 00:49:39,460
My husband was
raised a Catholic, as I was,
796
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:43,714
but he did not feel that any
government or any religious leader
797
00:49:43,714 --> 00:49:48,185
had the right to tell him how long
he had to suffer.
798
00:49:48,219 --> 00:49:51,806
Okay, so we’re sanctioning
the medical community to "off" people.
799
00:49:51,856 --> 00:49:55,860
Where could that lead?
What we saw were abortion led
800
00:49:55,893 --> 00:49:59,280
so then we further the notion that
we can decide
801
00:49:59,313 --> 00:50:02,483
who is fit to live and who is not.
802
00:50:02,533 --> 00:50:06,620
Taking a look at initiative I-1000
with Nancy Niedzielski, Dr. Rheba de Tornay
803
00:50:06,654 --> 00:50:08,072
and Dr. James Gordon.
804
00:50:08,155 --> 00:50:11,241
Dr. de Tornay,
what would initiative 1000 do?
805
00:50:11,292 --> 00:50:16,247
One of the things that bothers me
is that it’s somewhat of a slippery slope
806
00:50:16,247 --> 00:50:19,133
and I think we health professionals
807
00:50:19,166 --> 00:50:22,302
can alleviate a great deal
of suffering today.
808
00:50:22,336 --> 00:50:26,173
But there are diseases
that exist where you cannot control
809
00:50:26,223 --> 00:50:31,228
the pain and my husband had one of those.
And that’s why this should be an option.
810
00:50:31,262 --> 00:50:34,849
Now I’m off to an interview
with Canada.
811
00:50:34,899 --> 00:50:37,935
Evidentially this is
a hot topic in Canada.
812
00:50:37,985 --> 00:50:41,489
Death with Dignity, the other side
calls it Assisted Suicide.
813
00:50:41,522 --> 00:50:43,441
Is this assisted suicide?
814
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,276
No. To me it’s very offensive
to call it suicide.
815
00:50:46,327 --> 00:50:49,697
Suicide is something someone does
who is otherwise
816
00:50:49,747 --> 00:50:52,500
physically healthy and has their life
ahead of them,
817
00:50:52,533 --> 00:50:56,120
but are clinically depressed and
don’t want to live.
818
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,874
That is one of our fears, is that
someone realizes
819
00:50:59,924 --> 00:51:05,129
"Well, dad’s costing seventy five hundred
dollars a month at a long term care facility
820
00:51:05,129 --> 00:51:08,766
and that’s eating up the inheritance
real quickly."
821
00:51:08,799 --> 00:51:10,684
Hi David.
My name is Nancy.
822
00:51:10,718 --> 00:51:13,938
I’m a volunteer on the Yes 1000 Death
with Dignity Campaign.
823
00:51:13,971 --> 00:51:16,974
Have you decided if
you’ll support initiative 1000?
824
00:51:17,024 --> 00:51:20,611
You’re not?
Can I ask you why?
825
00:51:20,644 --> 00:51:24,982
Well it’s not an easy way out, actually.
It’s a very difficult way out.
826
00:51:24,982 --> 00:51:26,984
I respect that that’s
what your beliefs say
827
00:51:26,984 --> 00:51:29,487
but unfortunately,
by not passing this
828
00:51:29,486 --> 00:51:32,322
it’s saying that your beliefs have
to dictate to everybody else
829
00:51:32,323 --> 00:51:35,042
who doesn’t have the same belief.
830
00:51:35,075 --> 00:51:38,495
I did.
My husband suffered horribly.
831
00:51:38,545 --> 00:51:41,248
Okay thank you.
832
00:51:41,298 --> 00:51:43,167
Absolutely not.
833
00:51:43,217 --> 00:51:46,837
This is a debate about how we
finance healthcare and resources
834
00:51:46,887 --> 00:51:50,808
and when you’re talking about someone
who is living with a chronic disease,
835
00:51:50,841 --> 00:51:52,726
when you talk about poor people
836
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,314
and when you
offer someone
death versus living,
837
00:51:56,347 --> 00:51:59,433
I think we all need
to take notice.
838
00:52:11,195 --> 00:52:15,366
My name is Randy Stroup.
I’m 54 years old.
839
00:52:15,366 --> 00:52:19,921
I have two boys. I got
four granddaughters
and one grandson,
840
00:52:21,455 --> 00:52:25,092
and my mother, I was living here
taking care of her
841
00:52:25,125 --> 00:52:28,595
but now she’s been put in an
assisted living home.
842
00:52:29,630 --> 00:52:31,298
Next thing I know,
843
00:52:31,348 --> 00:52:36,970
I was diagnosed with prostate cancer
in December 19, 2006.
844
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,227
A year ago Christmas,
they gave me two to four months to live.
845
00:52:43,227 --> 00:52:47,148
So as far as I know,
prognosis is today or tomorrow.
846
00:52:48,565 --> 00:52:52,619
After the first
chemotherapy failed,
847
00:52:52,653 --> 00:52:57,575
my doctor decided he wanted to try
a stronger chemotherapy.
848
00:52:58,625 --> 00:53:00,577
Well, the Oregon
Health Plan decided
849
00:53:00,577 --> 00:53:04,631
as long as it didn’t
increase my life by five years,
850
00:53:05,716 --> 00:53:08,052
then they didn’t
want to pay for it.
851
00:53:10,087 --> 00:53:12,806
Mid September, I received a
852
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,559
letter from the
Oregon Health Plan.
853
00:53:15,592 --> 00:53:19,429
It said in the letter they would do
anything for comfort and palliative care
854
00:53:20,647 --> 00:53:24,651
including a doctor
assisted suicide.
855
00:53:29,406 --> 00:53:31,275
Dear Randy Stroup,
856
00:53:31,358 --> 00:53:34,111
Dr. Michael Monticelli
submitted a request for
857
00:53:34,111 --> 00:53:37,281
authorization dated March 26th
858
00:53:37,281 --> 00:53:39,116
2008
859
00:53:39,116 --> 00:53:40,534
for letting
860
00:53:40,584 --> 00:53:44,288
Oregon Health Plan to pay for
cancer treatment for you.
861
00:53:44,338 --> 00:53:48,008
Unfortunately, we are
unable to approve that request.
862
00:53:48,041 --> 00:53:50,927
Your condition at this
stage meets criteria
863
00:53:50,961 --> 00:53:53,764
for comfort and palliative care.
864
00:53:53,797 --> 00:53:56,800
Comfort and palliative care
may include
865
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,303
physician aid-in-dying
866
00:53:59,353 --> 00:54:01,772
under Oregon
Death with Dignity.
867
00:54:04,057 --> 00:54:05,525
Yeah, they don’t care.
868
00:54:07,060 --> 00:54:09,229
It still just appalls me.
869
00:54:10,814 --> 00:54:13,283
No man has got the right
870
00:54:13,317 --> 00:54:17,288
to offer money to have somebody
else killed.
871
00:54:18,872 --> 00:54:21,324
I’m a man of simple methods
872
00:54:21,375 --> 00:54:23,994
and the person who wrote
this letter needs to be
873
00:54:23,994 --> 00:54:26,380
put in prison for
the rest of his life.
874
00:54:29,466 --> 00:54:31,885
I do prison time for a
lot less than this.
875
00:54:37,808 --> 00:54:40,344
To think that they
could even start to put a
876
00:54:40,394 --> 00:54:42,346
price tag on my life,
877
00:54:42,396 --> 00:54:45,566
or send me a letter saying
they’d pay to kill me,
878
00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:48,068
but they won’t,
won’t pay to help me.
879
00:54:59,062 --> 00:55:02,365
Dignity means to me, that you
can hold your head up high,
880
00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:06,786
and I don’t see how anybody can
take their life
881
00:55:06,837 --> 00:55:09,256
and hold their head
up high while doing it.
882
00:55:16,763 --> 00:55:19,099
This is the
Ray Carnay Report.
883
00:55:20,717 --> 00:55:23,853
An exclusive KOZY TV
presentation on people,
884
00:55:23,887 --> 00:55:26,273
events and
consumer information.
885
00:55:26,306 --> 00:55:28,558
Written and produced
by Ray Carnay.
886
00:55:32,196 --> 00:55:35,282
Not, not in
all my years in
887
00:55:35,315 --> 00:55:38,819
show business,
in radio, in television
888
00:55:38,869 --> 00:55:43,457
have I talked to two more interesting
people than I have on my show today.
889
00:55:43,490 --> 00:55:45,625
Thank you.
You’re both lovely.
890
00:55:45,659 --> 00:55:49,479
And what, oh what a wealth of information
your backgrounds for a television audience
891
00:55:49,513 --> 00:55:52,216
and I know they’re going to be just
absolutely intrigued
892
00:55:52,249 --> 00:55:56,086
and hanging on to every word that you
have to say, and I’ve got a lot to ask you.
893
00:55:56,086 --> 00:55:59,590
All right good. Great. We’re ready.
A whole bunch.
894
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,228
I want my audience first to ah...
Play.
895
00:56:09,983 --> 00:56:12,068
I thank God for that,
896
00:56:12,102 --> 00:56:16,990
that voice, and wanting to take that
away from me in surgery.
897
00:56:17,024 --> 00:56:20,945
I’m gonna die with being able
to say "good-bye."
898
00:56:25,449 --> 00:56:29,503
When they
looked at my,
899
00:56:29,586 --> 00:56:34,458
my cancer x-rays or
my CAT scans or the MRIs,
900
00:56:34,508 --> 00:56:36,427
and they told
me that, ah,
901
00:56:38,011 --> 00:56:40,931
there’s nothing that can be done.
I’ve had the cancer there before.
902
00:56:40,964 --> 00:56:43,800
I’ve gone twenty years
and it came back,
903
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,802
and the only way now is to
904
00:56:45,802 --> 00:56:49,806
remove my voice box,
take that out and
905
00:56:49,856 --> 00:56:54,644
take out the thing that’s been my life.
My whole life has been my voice.
906
00:56:54,645 --> 00:56:58,482
That’s been my profession,
and I thank God for it.
907
00:57:01,818 --> 00:57:05,655
I’m sure I have a much different
outlook than many people have on,
908
00:57:06,823 --> 00:57:10,877
on the finality of life.
909
00:57:10,911 --> 00:57:16,417
I will have a real presence, almost a live
presence, at my own funeral.
910
00:57:16,466 --> 00:57:20,503
I know of no better way
to say goodbye
911
00:57:20,504 --> 00:57:24,258
than my little eulogy.
912
00:57:25,976 --> 00:57:27,895
Here we are, okay.
913
00:57:29,479 --> 00:57:30,513
Hi.
914
00:57:30,514 --> 00:57:33,350
How are you?
Fine, thank you.
915
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,018
I’m Ray.
Ray, I’m Thaddeus.
916
00:57:35,068 --> 00:57:37,604
Thaddeus,
nice to see you.
917
00:57:48,699 --> 00:57:49,783
Go in here?
918
00:57:49,833 --> 00:57:51,668
Yeah.
Okay.
919
00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:59,543
Actually, if I could get you to scoot
forward about... Sure.
920
00:57:59,543 --> 00:58:02,880
about to right here,
yeah sitting right close.
921
00:58:03,847 --> 00:58:06,099
Like so?
That is great.
922
00:58:07,017 --> 00:58:08,802
Okay.
Okay.
923
00:58:08,852 --> 00:58:12,439
Well, let’s go ahead
and, uh, get you some headphones
924
00:58:13,557 --> 00:58:16,226
and I’ll get a mix sent to you
925
00:58:16,276 --> 00:58:19,029
as soon as I can. Go ahead and
feel free to warm up and
926
00:58:19,062 --> 00:58:20,897
just run over it
a couple of times.
927
00:58:20,897 --> 00:58:23,116
I’m, ah,
I’m always ready.
928
00:58:23,150 --> 00:58:26,487
I’m going to need to see...
Oh, you’re going to need...oh, I see.
929
00:58:26,536 --> 00:58:29,072
I’ll give you some headphones.
Set the, okay...
930
00:58:30,824 --> 00:58:32,409
Okay, so,
here we are.
931
00:58:34,411 --> 00:58:37,247
Dear family
and friends,
932
00:58:37,297 --> 00:58:40,667
welcome to this joyous occasion.
933
00:58:40,751 --> 00:58:45,889
Joyous because I, I strongly believe
that this is the beginning of another life
934
00:58:45,922 --> 00:58:50,593
with a loving God as my constant
and eternal companion.
935
00:58:50,677 --> 00:58:54,898
I am so proud that Judaica and Christian
principals are here to make this a
936
00:58:54,931 --> 00:58:58,351
memorable and a beautiful occasion.
937
00:58:58,402 --> 00:59:03,190
Pastor Jim and Rabi Maurice and
Major Joe are dear friends.
938
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:08,278
I thank them, all of whom have made
this service possible.
939
00:59:08,278 --> 00:59:11,915
Hopefully my brother, Harold,
and my sons Robert, Richard and Jeff
940
00:59:11,948 --> 00:59:14,033
along with my daughter, Darla,
941
00:59:14,084 --> 00:59:16,203
were able to attend
this final visit.
942
00:59:17,454 --> 00:59:20,958
Other daughters Cindy,
Carol and Shelly
943
00:59:20,957 --> 00:59:24,127
may not even be aware
of my demise.
944
00:59:24,177 --> 00:59:29,182
I do realize that this entire
affair might be considered by some as,
945
00:59:29,216 --> 00:59:31,602
well, as unusual.
946
00:59:31,635 --> 00:59:36,807
But for me it’s an opportunity to
actually voice my goodbyes and gratitude
947
00:59:36,857 --> 00:59:41,311
for the love and friendship that is
prevalent within these holy walls.
948
00:59:41,361 --> 00:59:44,648
My father, an orthodox Jew,
once said to me,
949
00:59:44,648 --> 00:59:49,453
"If all the world lived by the principals
taught by Moses and Jesus
950
00:59:49,486 --> 00:59:52,155
we’d have a perfect world."
951
00:59:52,205 --> 00:59:55,158
How very true were
those words of wisdom.
952
00:59:56,243 --> 00:59:59,329
Go in peace.
Go with God.
953
01:00:00,580 --> 01:00:02,632
Bless you for your attendance.
954
01:00:05,001 --> 01:00:07,587
Can we play back that last part?
"If all the world
955
01:00:07,637 --> 01:00:10,173
lived by the principals
taught by Moses and Jesus
956
01:00:10,223 --> 01:00:12,425
we’d have a perfect world."
957
01:00:12,476 --> 01:00:14,011
What a hell of a voice.
958
01:00:15,145 --> 01:00:17,898
Nah. No, that’s great.
959
01:00:25,572 --> 01:00:28,442
Yeah that’s great.
That’s exactly what I wanted.
960
01:00:36,366 --> 01:00:40,203
You have a great voice.
Well, thank you. Thank you very much.
961
01:01:00,857 --> 01:01:04,394
What have you been doing since
the last time I talked to you?
962
01:01:04,444 --> 01:01:08,898
I’ve been feeling really good, and I’ve
been feeling really guilty about it.
963
01:01:08,899 --> 01:01:10,951
I just feel like,
if you’re handed a
964
01:01:10,984 --> 01:01:13,737
diagnosis like that, there are
certain expectations
965
01:01:13,737 --> 01:01:15,906
about how you
should behave and
966
01:01:15,906 --> 01:01:18,375
um, what’s going
to happen next.
967
01:01:18,408 --> 01:01:19,993
That’s a hard thing to
968
01:01:20,043 --> 01:01:22,379
anticipate. Its a hard
thing to live with
969
01:01:22,412 --> 01:01:26,049
and not you know, feeling like,
"Well, when will I know? When will I know?"
970
01:01:26,082 --> 01:01:29,085
And I feel like I want to conform
to the expectations
971
01:01:29,085 --> 01:01:31,921
of someone with
a terminal illness.
972
01:01:31,922 --> 01:01:34,758
But it’s funny,
I gave away all of my jewelry
973
01:01:34,808 --> 01:01:38,612
and then, I bought some more.
974
01:01:38,645 --> 01:01:41,431
That’s so great.
Because I thought
975
01:01:41,431 --> 01:01:43,183
maybe that was a bit premature.
976
01:01:43,233 --> 01:01:45,602
But I have had this checklist
977
01:01:45,652 --> 01:01:49,439
and it’s nearly done, and I’m
sort of dragging my feet on the last
978
01:01:49,489 --> 01:01:51,441
few things ’cause I think,
979
01:01:51,441 --> 01:01:54,194
"Well, if I have
another several months,
980
01:01:54,244 --> 01:01:56,329
then what am I going to do?"
Yeah.
981
01:01:56,413 --> 01:01:59,666
I’m ready
982
01:01:59,699 --> 01:02:03,036
to start to decline
983
01:02:03,086 --> 01:02:05,338
and I’m not declining.
What’s the matter here?
984
01:02:05,372 --> 01:02:08,342
And you said something profound when
we talked on the phone,
985
01:02:08,375 --> 01:02:12,880
"You have to decide what quality of life
is good." Is it,
986
01:02:12,929 --> 01:02:16,716
Is it just being able
to get up and get dressed and take a walk?
987
01:02:16,766 --> 01:02:19,102
Or is it not having pain?
988
01:02:19,135 --> 01:02:22,138
I’m coming to think maybe it’s
989
01:02:22,138 --> 01:02:26,776
not being able to take care of myself
and not worrying my family.
990
01:02:26,810 --> 01:02:29,479
And I feel like
I want to maw it all
991
01:02:29,529 --> 01:02:32,315
for my children a kind of, um,
992
01:02:33,700 --> 01:02:35,652
grace and acceptance
993
01:02:39,239 --> 01:02:42,409
because I’m really scared of being
a coward at the end.
994
01:02:47,163 --> 01:02:52,585
Well, we call it Death
With Dignity, not death from cowardice
995
01:02:52,636 --> 01:02:56,056
And do you think its
cowardice to,
996
01:02:56,089 --> 01:02:58,508
to not want to suffer?
997
01:02:58,508 --> 01:03:03,096
That’s a message that our society gives
over and over again.
998
01:03:03,146 --> 01:03:06,850
That only the, if you’re,
the truly courageous
999
01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:10,187
are the ones that are willing
to suffer the most.
1000
01:03:10,186 --> 01:03:11,821
Yeah, you’re right.
1001
01:03:11,855 --> 01:03:16,860
It’s an absolutely,
totally, erroneous
1002
01:03:16,860 --> 01:03:19,830
and completely
flawed philosophy and,
1003
01:03:19,863 --> 01:03:25,085
and ah, and logic.
There’s no logic to that.
1004
01:03:25,168 --> 01:03:28,588
It, you’re right and I don’t want
to put my children through that.
1005
01:03:28,621 --> 01:03:32,625
It’s a very human thing to die.
We’re all going to die.
1006
01:03:32,676 --> 01:03:33,710
Yeah.
1007
01:03:33,710 --> 01:03:36,046
And I’m just lucky to know that
1008
01:03:36,096 --> 01:03:38,181
more about how and when I’ll die
1009
01:03:38,214 --> 01:03:41,768
and have more control about that than
most people do.
1010
01:03:41,801 --> 01:03:43,136
Right.
1011
01:03:49,893 --> 01:03:52,396
You gonna go up the old way
1012
01:03:52,445 --> 01:03:55,315
and drop down? Oh, you want to
go up that way? Sure.
1013
01:03:57,617 --> 01:04:00,537
I was thinking this will be my first
time back at OHSU
1014
01:04:00,570 --> 01:04:04,240
since I left for the surgery.
1015
01:04:04,324 --> 01:04:07,744
I never did turn in my ID tag.
I should have brought it with me.
1016
01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:13,617
Remember when I used to walk this?
1017
01:04:13,650 --> 01:04:15,836
That was a long time ago.
1018
01:04:19,005 --> 01:04:21,975
We’ve had a lot
of good times up here.
1019
01:04:32,152 --> 01:04:35,355
See, the steps
are right there.
1020
01:04:35,405 --> 01:04:37,524
Hi Martina!
1021
01:04:37,574 --> 01:04:40,444
How are you? Ooh!
1022
01:04:40,443 --> 01:04:41,945
From your garden?
Really?
1023
01:04:41,945 --> 01:04:43,830
The first ones that have just opened.
1024
01:04:43,863 --> 01:04:49,619
I feel like there should be a
ceremony. I should be getting... I do.
1025
01:04:51,955 --> 01:04:54,424
Hi!
How are you?
1026
01:05:00,764 --> 01:05:03,800
Good to see you.
I have a present for you
1027
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,635
for old time’s sake.
1028
01:05:05,685 --> 01:05:07,554
Oh, thank you!
1029
01:05:07,604 --> 01:05:11,641
It’s not the season, but it has sentimental value.
I brought some to share.
1030
01:05:11,691 --> 01:05:13,610
Hi, how are you?
1031
01:05:13,643 --> 01:05:14,894
Frank...
1032
01:05:14,944 --> 01:05:16,446
There she is...
1033
01:05:16,479 --> 01:05:19,365
Can I just give Frank
a hug, really quick?
1034
01:05:19,399 --> 01:05:23,703
Nice to see you.
Oh, thank you.
1035
01:05:23,736 --> 01:05:29,458
Yeah, we all go back twenty years. Twenty
years, can you believe it?
1036
01:05:30,994 --> 01:05:32,462
These are the stairs
to the pool,
1037
01:05:32,495 --> 01:05:35,164
is that what we’re looking for?
Yes. Yes, it is.
1038
01:05:35,165 --> 01:05:39,720
This is an important... Oh...
It’s hot in here.
1039
01:05:43,306 --> 01:05:47,093
The reason we’re here is to have
a belated celebration
1040
01:05:47,143 --> 01:05:52,982
and recognition of the role that Cody
played in, ah, saving the pool.
1041
01:05:53,016 --> 01:05:58,522
And I want to present it to you Cody,
because this is in recognition.
1042
01:05:58,521 --> 01:06:01,190
Oh!
1043
01:06:01,241 --> 01:06:04,995
And what it says is,
"Our caps off to Cody Curtis.
1044
01:06:05,028 --> 01:06:08,582
Dedicated OHSU employee and swimmer."
Thank you.
1045
01:06:08,615 --> 01:06:10,617
Cody successfully
saved the pool
1046
01:06:10,667 --> 01:06:14,371
from being closed indefinitely in
December of 2006.
1047
01:06:14,370 --> 01:06:17,673
People from OHSU and the neighborhood
continue to come together
1048
01:06:17,707 --> 01:06:20,710
to share a lane
and a smile."
1049
01:06:20,710 --> 01:06:25,715
Thank you.
No, I...
1050
01:06:25,765 --> 01:06:30,770
and now everyone has to
jump in and swim a lap
1051
01:06:30,803 --> 01:06:34,273
You’re going to give us a lesson, right?
Right.
1052
01:06:45,485 --> 01:06:50,073
That was really fun.
Thanks, honey.
1053
01:06:57,630 --> 01:07:00,466
Put this down.
1054
01:07:00,500 --> 01:07:03,803
Are you all right?
Do you want some water?
1055
01:07:56,556 --> 01:08:01,227
Today it’s, uhm,
no longer about I-1000.
1056
01:08:03,196 --> 01:08:05,065
What it feels like to me
1057
01:08:05,114 --> 01:08:07,617
is that my marriage
has ended today.
1058
01:08:09,319 --> 01:08:16,293
And it ended legally
on July 24th, 2006 at 4:40 p.m.
1059
01:08:16,326 --> 01:08:18,712
when Randy died.
1060
01:08:18,745 --> 01:08:22,749
But since there was
still something I needed to do
1061
01:08:22,799 --> 01:08:27,420
that Randy asked me,
I never really felt that it was over.
1062
01:08:27,470 --> 01:08:30,673
And so today
it feels over to me.
1063
01:08:30,723 --> 01:08:33,092
I absolutely believe
it’ll pass.
1064
01:08:33,142 --> 01:08:37,430
It’ll be kind of a bittersweet
victory in that
1065
01:08:37,480 --> 01:08:40,149
now I’m done.
1066
01:08:40,183 --> 01:08:44,404
You know, now I have to figure out
how I go on with the rest of my life,
1067
01:08:45,438 --> 01:08:47,106
and so it’s gonna be hard.
1068
01:08:51,611 --> 01:08:54,914
I’m just feeling,
uhm, nervous about
1069
01:08:54,947 --> 01:08:58,501
will I make it through
the night without falling apart?
1070
01:09:08,044 --> 01:09:10,547
When Hippocrates
set up his oath,
1071
01:09:10,596 --> 01:09:13,099
he wanted medicine
to be clear cut,
1072
01:09:13,132 --> 01:09:15,051
we are going
to help you.
1073
01:09:15,101 --> 01:09:18,938
We’re not going to abuse you. We’re not
going to try to kill you. You can come to us
1074
01:09:18,971 --> 01:09:21,390
and we’ll do our
best to heal you.
1075
01:09:21,441 --> 01:09:25,895
Now this, sets physicians
into the realm of
1076
01:09:25,928 --> 01:09:28,898
actively helping
people end their loss.
1077
01:09:28,898 --> 01:09:34,704
We have a strong tradition in this
country to allow patients to deny care.
1078
01:09:34,737 --> 01:09:38,958
Removing a technology is
1079
01:09:38,991 --> 01:09:42,912
a patient voluntarily
denying a service
1080
01:09:42,962 --> 01:09:45,798
and that’s acceptable,
that is your right.
1081
01:09:45,832 --> 01:09:48,418
But we’ve never before
1082
01:09:48,468 --> 01:09:51,638
allowed physicians to actively
1083
01:09:51,671 --> 01:09:54,123
take somebody’s life,
and that’s what this is
1084
01:09:54,157 --> 01:09:56,393
and that’s not
the practice of medicine.
1085
01:10:12,825 --> 01:10:14,777
Will you sign my annual?
1086
01:10:23,786 --> 01:10:26,289
It’s great being around all these
people, I love it,
1087
01:10:26,339 --> 01:10:29,459
but it just feels weird and
1088
01:10:29,509 --> 01:10:33,847
almost lonely, or empty to me
not having Randy right here by my side.
1089
01:10:35,047 --> 01:10:38,133
I almost feel like
he’s left me to be,
1090
01:10:38,184 --> 01:10:41,721
just ah, say, "Okay,
1091
01:10:41,771 --> 01:10:45,275
you’ve done everything
I’ve asked. Now’s the time to go."
1092
01:10:45,308 --> 01:10:48,812
The initiative is passing
with 59 percent of the vote.
1093
01:10:50,279 --> 01:10:52,815
And which, which
radio show is this?
1094
01:10:54,984 --> 01:10:57,787
Oh, Oregon Public
Broadcasting, okay.
1095
01:10:58,821 --> 01:11:01,490
Okay. Oregon Public
Broadcasting.
1096
01:11:09,999 --> 01:11:11,167
It passed?
1097
01:11:33,856 --> 01:11:36,158
This election day
1098
01:11:36,192 --> 01:11:38,911
marks the end of my marriage
1099
01:11:38,945 --> 01:11:41,498
as you have fulfilled
1100
01:11:45,868 --> 01:11:49,705
the final promise that
I made to my husband
1101
01:11:50,923 --> 01:11:53,509
by making Death
With Dignity legal.
1102
01:11:54,377 --> 01:11:56,629
I say to all of you
1103
01:11:56,679 --> 01:12:00,132
what Randy said
to me each and every night,
1104
01:12:02,552 --> 01:12:06,806
"I love you most of all
and then some." Thank you.
1105
01:12:27,877 --> 01:12:29,462
Okay
1106
01:12:31,414 --> 01:12:34,217
we’re off to live on
1107
01:12:34,250 --> 01:12:37,303
Yes.
... with dignity.
1108
01:12:39,755 --> 01:12:41,257
See you, dear Rob.
1109
01:12:41,307 --> 01:12:42,925
Well, thanks again.
I love you.
1110
01:12:42,975 --> 01:12:46,595
I love you too.
I love you for everything you did.
1111
01:12:46,596 --> 01:12:51,067
You know after all of this, now it’s time
for you to kind of just
1112
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:56,606
grieve a little bit for Randy,
and move on a little bit.
1113
01:12:56,606 --> 01:12:58,908
Okay?
1114
01:12:58,941 --> 01:13:01,076
Life goes on.
I know.
1115
01:13:02,578 --> 01:13:04,780
We’ll be in touch.
We will. I’ll talk to you soon.
1116
01:13:04,780 --> 01:13:08,450
And I will be a volunteer forever for you guys.
Yes, you will.
1117
01:13:08,501 --> 01:13:13,756
You know it. See ya.
Bye. Yes, you will.
1118
01:13:17,793 --> 01:13:19,878
Where the heck is out?
1119
01:13:48,658 --> 01:13:50,710
One, two, three, four...
1120
01:13:54,163 --> 01:13:57,216
Actually, it’s really
hard to sort out
1121
01:13:57,249 --> 01:13:59,802
what’s doing what.
1122
01:13:59,835 --> 01:14:05,090
My fevers are spiking.
They’re harder. They’re lasting a longer time.
1123
01:14:05,141 --> 01:14:08,011
I’m not responding to antibiotics.
1124
01:14:08,010 --> 01:14:11,430
I have more pain
1125
01:14:11,480 --> 01:14:15,017
and I’m jaundiced, oh boy!
1126
01:14:17,069 --> 01:14:19,488
So yeah, I’m
1127
01:14:19,522 --> 01:14:22,158
declining the last
week and a half.
1128
01:14:25,361 --> 01:14:27,496
It’s harder to
get out of bed.
1129
01:14:28,531 --> 01:14:31,834
It’s harder to just
do normal stuff.
1130
01:14:33,536 --> 01:14:37,707
But I have a really good handle
on what’s coming.
1131
01:14:37,707 --> 01:14:40,460
I’ll know.
1132
01:14:40,543 --> 01:14:44,931
Right now because it’s so up and down
and there are things that are still working
1133
01:14:44,964 --> 01:14:46,549
it seems like
1134
01:14:46,599 --> 01:14:50,019
a choice that I don’t
want to take just yet.
1135
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,190
There’s enough good days
1136
01:14:55,224 --> 01:14:57,560
but I know it’ll
get to a point
1137
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,480
where I’m not enjoying things
1138
01:15:00,529 --> 01:15:01,947
and I’m a burden.
1139
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:05,818
In which case
1140
01:15:05,868 --> 01:15:10,072
that choice will seem
easy and obvious
1141
01:15:10,122 --> 01:15:11,573
and I’ll be grateful.
1142
01:15:12,875 --> 01:15:15,494
And I’ve had a little preview
of that this week,
1143
01:15:16,746 --> 01:15:18,748
Because when the
fever gets high
1144
01:15:19,749 --> 01:15:21,417
it hurts.
1145
01:15:21,417 --> 01:15:24,420
I just think, "Well,
wouldn’t it be nice to just
1146
01:15:25,588 --> 01:15:28,224
close my eyes
and drift off?"
1147
01:15:30,476 --> 01:15:34,397
I don’t think
it’s gonna be that easy,
1148
01:15:34,430 --> 01:15:36,933
not with this disease.
1149
01:16:14,303 --> 01:16:17,139
The decision tree for
the fluid build-up
1150
01:16:17,139 --> 01:16:18,390
was quite different.
1151
01:16:18,441 --> 01:16:21,811
We hadn’t really
been through that so much
1152
01:16:21,811 --> 01:16:25,114
and so that was
a whole new fear
1153
01:16:26,732 --> 01:16:30,319
and a lot of the discomforts
1154
01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:34,790
could be easily correlated to the pressure
against her ribs and different places
1155
01:16:34,824 --> 01:16:38,378
caused by that fluid build-up.
1156
01:16:38,410 --> 01:16:44,299
And she was supposed to be taking pain medication,
It’s not doing its job.
1157
01:16:44,333 --> 01:16:47,336
and she was throwing up
and couldn’t keep the pills down.
1158
01:16:49,388 --> 01:16:52,725
She couldn’t eat.
She couldn’t swallow. She was
1159
01:16:52,758 --> 01:16:55,010
you know,
really weak not only from,
1160
01:16:55,928 --> 01:16:58,013
from all this weight
1161
01:16:58,063 --> 01:17:02,184
but also she was basically starving herself
not able to eat enough to keep
1162
01:17:03,519 --> 01:17:05,237
her body mass up.
1163
01:17:05,271 --> 01:17:07,907
Kate called me yesterday and said
that you had
1164
01:17:07,940 --> 01:17:11,243
she said, you probably had a little
of what we call ascieties of fluid
1165
01:17:11,277 --> 01:17:15,114
on your belly. Uhm, and then it’s
probably time to change the tube
1166
01:17:15,164 --> 01:17:17,116
Uhm, uhm,
1167
01:17:17,166 --> 01:17:20,870
like we were talking about before,
it’s not an exact science in terms of, uh,
1168
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:25,458
when to change it out, but usually every four,
six weeks or so, uhm,
1169
01:17:25,508 --> 01:17:27,343
you get enough debris
and stuff that
1170
01:17:27,376 --> 01:17:29,762
just changing it out can make
people feel better.
1171
01:17:29,795 --> 01:17:32,514
Sometimes people get so much fluid
I mean they just, it
1172
01:17:32,548 --> 01:17:35,134
pushes your diaphragm up so you
can’t breathe as well.
1173
01:17:35,184 --> 01:17:37,186
Right.
Pushes your bowel out of the way.
1174
01:17:37,219 --> 01:17:41,106
Pushes on your stomach, you don’t really
feel like eating as much as you used to.
1175
01:17:41,140 --> 01:17:43,726
Its not good, but it’s not,
it’s not a terrible thing
1176
01:17:43,726 --> 01:17:47,196
and under the circumstances
it’s kind of expected.
1177
01:17:47,229 --> 01:17:49,732
We have you sign these things over
and over again.
1178
01:17:49,782 --> 01:17:51,567
I’m gonna have you sign ours today.
1179
01:17:51,617 --> 01:17:55,571
You’re signing for the billiary tube change
and for the parazentesis, okay?
1180
01:17:55,621 --> 01:17:58,491
We’ll get you comfortable.
Oh, thank you.
1181
01:18:07,583 --> 01:18:09,135
How’s your
pain right now?
1182
01:18:09,168 --> 01:18:11,554
Oh, I’m fine.
Okay.
1183
01:18:12,972 --> 01:18:15,591
Is your skin real
tender here?
1184
01:18:15,641 --> 01:18:17,676
Whew!
It’s cold.
1185
01:18:28,020 --> 01:18:29,939
Ms. Curtis are you doing okay?
1186
01:18:31,490 --> 01:18:34,109
Just have a lovely feeling,
just resting.
1187
01:18:53,629 --> 01:18:55,464
Okay, it’s out.
1188
01:18:56,765 --> 01:18:57,933
Good job.
1189
01:19:04,139 --> 01:19:07,643
That’s it,
it’s in. Okay?
1190
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,654
First part of the procedure done,
now we’re getting the fluid out of your tummy, okay?
1191
01:19:18,704 --> 01:19:21,540
This shouldn’t be too difficult,
I think.
1192
01:19:21,573 --> 01:19:25,327
I hope you feel better.
There’s quite a bit of fluid there, you were right.
1193
01:19:32,885 --> 01:19:35,504
How are you doing
Miss Curtis?
1194
01:19:37,423 --> 01:19:39,342
Are you getting
your nap in?
1195
01:19:43,345 --> 01:19:46,565
All done. Both things
are done, okay.
1196
01:19:48,517 --> 01:19:51,353
Do you want to see
what we took off your tummy?
1197
01:19:51,353 --> 01:19:52,437
Wow!
1198
01:19:52,488 --> 01:19:55,358
Okay, so, we got
about twice that much.
1199
01:19:56,859 --> 01:19:59,528
Wow.
So it should help you feel better.
1200
01:20:02,364 --> 01:20:04,283
Do you feel better?
1201
01:20:06,585 --> 01:20:10,506
Pat ourselves on the back?
Okay.
1202
01:20:10,539 --> 01:20:14,927
Okay. I’ll probably check in with you
a little later, okay? Everything went fine.
1203
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:23,719
How do you feel Cody?
1204
01:20:28,607 --> 01:20:30,559
What’s going on, hon?
1205
01:20:32,895 --> 01:20:34,980
Aww. Bless your heart.
1206
01:20:36,482 --> 01:20:39,068
Oh, you’re welcome!
I’m so glad you feel better.
1207
01:20:47,076 --> 01:20:49,161
Hey! I told her
about an hour, Stan
1208
01:20:49,211 --> 01:20:51,714
and if she’s feeling
better before than I think...
1209
01:20:51,747 --> 01:20:56,585
I think Cody’s choice
is a pretty clear choice.
1210
01:20:56,635 --> 01:21:01,473
You know, a year ago we would
talk about it and argue about it.
1211
01:21:01,507 --> 01:21:05,678
No one was sure they really knew what
was being talked about.
1212
01:21:05,728 --> 01:21:07,647
And you know,
I think she’d rather
1213
01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:09,981
not have to choose.
I think she’d rather
1214
01:21:10,032 --> 01:21:14,036
gracefully let nature
take its course.
1215
01:21:14,069 --> 01:21:17,489
And she was prepared
for that not to be an easy course.
1216
01:21:17,539 --> 01:21:19,207
And so
1217
01:21:19,241 --> 01:21:23,662
it’s not about the stint or
the liters of fluid.
1218
01:21:25,798 --> 01:21:28,217
It’s about her
state of mind and
1219
01:21:29,501 --> 01:21:31,887
her pride in herself,
and her pride in us,
1220
01:21:33,672 --> 01:21:37,059
and our pride in ourselves
and our pride in her.
1221
01:21:39,978 --> 01:21:43,849
And that doesn’t
get talked about very much.
1222
01:21:43,899 --> 01:21:47,603
And doesn’t get said
nearly enough
1223
01:21:51,690 --> 01:21:54,026
And then I don’t think
Cody really has
1224
01:21:54,026 --> 01:21:57,947
decided, uhm, very
much in advance.
1225
01:21:57,996 --> 01:22:00,999
She just said, "Okay,
I’m going to take the next option."
1226
01:22:03,085 --> 01:22:06,088
We don’t really know which option
it would be.
1227
01:22:15,964 --> 01:22:18,767
So, how are you feeling?
Uh...
1228
01:22:21,386 --> 01:22:22,637
I’m feeling better.
1229
01:22:22,688 --> 01:22:24,807
Good.
Than I was. But that’s not saying much.
1230
01:22:24,857 --> 01:22:28,894
Yeah, so the pain that you were needing
the meds for, was that distention?
1231
01:22:28,894 --> 01:22:30,612
It was the distention but,
1232
01:22:30,646 --> 01:22:32,731
it felt like my ribs
were going to break apart
1233
01:22:32,781 --> 01:22:35,117
and my collar bone and
stuff. It was so much...
1234
01:22:35,150 --> 01:22:40,906
Pushing and pressure.
And a lot of stuff doesn’t taste good anymore.
1235
01:22:40,906 --> 01:22:43,792
Yeah, I can’t take more than a couple of bites.
Okay.
1236
01:22:43,826 --> 01:22:47,580
And then I can’t take a deep breath anymore
and it’s really hard to walk, now.
1237
01:22:47,579 --> 01:22:50,582
Yeah, that’s the fluid.
1238
01:22:50,632 --> 01:22:52,968
This is a big change from
our last visit.
1239
01:22:53,001 --> 01:22:55,420
I mean, I think we were sort of
wondering when...
1240
01:22:55,471 --> 01:22:59,308
’Cause it seemed like you were very, very stable...
Yeah, for a long time.
1241
01:22:59,341 --> 01:23:03,178
This is a change. Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
1242
01:23:03,228 --> 01:23:06,982
Actually, the main thing we wanted is to get
the decision tree from here.
1243
01:23:08,484 --> 01:23:10,236
Okay.
1244
01:23:10,269 --> 01:23:15,024
I wanted to find out about what it’s gonna be like
if I choose not to treat
1245
01:23:16,909 --> 01:23:19,495
fever or...
Mm-hmm.
1246
01:23:19,578 --> 01:23:23,532
And I just feel like, I’d just rather drift away.
Okay.
1247
01:23:23,582 --> 01:23:28,120
Okay. I think the, the drifting away is
certainly a possible thing.
1248
01:23:28,170 --> 01:23:31,340
Um, when you’re
getting a fever of 104
1249
01:23:31,373 --> 01:23:33,876
that tells me that,
that bile is infected
1250
01:23:33,926 --> 01:23:38,964
and that is a, a pretty life threatening
infection without treatment.
1251
01:23:39,014 --> 01:23:40,849
If you didn’t treat
the fevers,
1252
01:23:40,883 --> 01:23:44,186
you would probably end up getting that
really violent shake.
1253
01:23:44,219 --> 01:23:45,687
Yeah.
1254
01:23:45,721 --> 01:23:49,191
But after that passed,
at a certain point you probably would
1255
01:23:49,224 --> 01:23:53,945
drift off, your blood pressure would go
down and you would lose consciousness and...
1256
01:23:53,979 --> 01:23:56,482
And as far as how long it would be,
1257
01:23:56,481 --> 01:23:58,984
Uh huh. Uhm, it could be
twenty four hours.
1258
01:23:58,984 --> 01:24:01,820
It could be, you know,
three or four days.
1259
01:24:01,870 --> 01:24:04,740
I just don’t know.
That’s not bad.
1260
01:24:05,707 --> 01:24:07,242
But it wouldn’t
1261
01:24:07,292 --> 01:24:10,128
be likely to be much longer than that
with those high fevers,
1262
01:24:10,162 --> 01:24:12,297
with that kind
of infection.
1263
01:24:12,331 --> 01:24:15,000
And then the other
thing to know, too, is that if we
1264
01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:17,469
don’t have oral
pain medication regimen,
1265
01:24:17,502 --> 01:24:20,505
there are still
other options for that, as well.
1266
01:24:20,589 --> 01:24:22,424
Okay.
1267
01:24:24,843 --> 01:24:28,513
It’s pretty clear
that this is a different ball game.
1268
01:24:28,564 --> 01:24:30,015
It is hard
to predict.
1269
01:24:30,015 --> 01:24:31,517
I would say
1270
01:24:31,516 --> 01:24:33,935
that if you wanted
to get through Thanksgiving and not feel
1271
01:24:33,986 --> 01:24:37,022
as distended and full, we can
take more fluid out.
1272
01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:38,941
You know Jill really...
Yeah.
1273
01:24:38,991 --> 01:24:40,943
...was set to
come home for Christmas.
1274
01:24:40,993 --> 01:24:42,945
Okay good.
December 23rd.
1275
01:24:42,995 --> 01:24:45,364
So there’s a fair amount of
incentive to see
1276
01:24:46,531 --> 01:24:48,249
if draining helps
1277
01:24:48,283 --> 01:24:49,701
to get us to there.
1278
01:24:49,751 --> 01:24:51,786
You know, I certainly
think the drainage
1279
01:24:51,837 --> 01:24:55,708
could help get things through
till Christmas.
1280
01:24:55,757 --> 01:24:58,376
Well, I think this
is enough. I...
1281
01:24:58,377 --> 01:25:01,046
Okay.
I can’t do any more.
1282
01:25:01,096 --> 01:25:02,931
That’s okay.
Okay.
1283
01:25:06,184 --> 01:25:08,887
I’ll be around, uhm, and
1284
01:25:08,937 --> 01:25:12,224
you know, definitely
be available so...
1285
01:25:12,224 --> 01:25:16,895
Yeah, it’s fine.
It’s fine. This is hard.
1286
01:25:51,396 --> 01:25:54,232
Have you been
watching any movies?
1287
01:25:54,266 --> 01:25:57,102
I’ve been thinking
of you and I’ve been wanting to stop by.
1288
01:25:57,152 --> 01:26:00,689
Because it’s...
Once you get through the first
1289
01:26:00,739 --> 01:26:06,194
flurry of gotta make a list, gotta get
everything done, gotta be ready to die,
1290
01:26:06,244 --> 01:26:09,280
then there’s
a period of adjustment
1291
01:26:09,331 --> 01:26:13,168
about, okay, now I’m ready to die,
now what?
1292
01:26:13,201 --> 01:26:16,204
Are we doing a trim today or style?
Just a tiny trim.
1293
01:26:16,254 --> 01:26:17,255
Okay.
1294
01:26:17,289 --> 01:26:19,124
About three weeks ago,
1295
01:26:19,124 --> 01:26:22,461
Cody was on a very minimal amount
of pain medication
1296
01:26:22,461 --> 01:26:26,465
Within the last three weeks
she’s gone to needing the equivalent of
1297
01:26:26,465 --> 01:26:29,802
ten milligrams of
IV morphine an hour.
1298
01:26:29,801 --> 01:26:32,387
which is a lot.
1299
01:26:32,437 --> 01:26:36,141
Part of the pain is due to the fact
she has literally liters,
1300
01:26:36,191 --> 01:26:40,228
like 3 two liter coke bottles of fluid
in her belly.
1301
01:26:40,278 --> 01:26:44,816
It’s like going from not pregnant to nine
months pregnant in a week.
1302
01:26:44,816 --> 01:26:48,153
Then she said,
"This is not what I signed up for."
1303
01:26:48,236 --> 01:26:52,123
She says, "I’m suffering now
and, uhm, so it’s time."
1304
01:26:53,291 --> 01:26:54,993
I don’t get to
take a shower.
1305
01:26:54,993 --> 01:26:58,079
I have to use a handheld thing.
Oh shoot, so...
1306
01:26:58,130 --> 01:27:01,083
So this is
a real luxury.
1307
01:27:01,166 --> 01:27:06,838
I don’t want to subject myself
or my family to
1308
01:27:06,838 --> 01:27:09,007
needless suffering
at end of life.
1309
01:27:09,007 --> 01:27:11,309
And I understand
that there’s a kind of
1310
01:27:11,343 --> 01:27:13,395
dignity in suffering,
1311
01:27:13,428 --> 01:27:17,482
but there’s a certain grace in accepting
the inevitable.
1312
01:27:20,685 --> 01:27:23,488
I think that Cody could
die at home
1313
01:27:23,522 --> 01:27:26,025
without using
the Death With Dignity Law
1314
01:27:26,074 --> 01:27:30,362
but I think what it would require
to keep her comfortable until her body
1315
01:27:30,412 --> 01:27:32,831
let things take its course
and she died,
1316
01:27:32,864 --> 01:27:36,618
would be things like, a hospital bed moved
into their apartment.
1317
01:27:36,668 --> 01:27:38,537
She’d need nursing support.
1318
01:27:38,587 --> 01:27:42,508
She’d need help with bathing, help with
going to the bathroom, help with dressing,
1319
01:27:42,541 --> 01:27:44,376
all of these things
being things that
1320
01:27:44,426 --> 01:27:48,013
Cody is just not a person to want
to have help with.
1321
01:27:48,046 --> 01:27:49,931
If Cody did not
use the law,
1322
01:27:49,965 --> 01:27:52,801
I think with all of
our maximum support,
1323
01:27:52,884 --> 01:27:57,522
given the speed with
which her symptoms have taken a turn
1324
01:27:57,556 --> 01:28:00,526
I suspect that
she would be gone
1325
01:28:00,559 --> 01:28:02,694
within, at least,
eight weeks.
1326
01:28:02,727 --> 01:28:06,698
Do you want me to grab you some tea here
or something? We’ve got some mint tea here.
1327
01:28:35,393 --> 01:28:37,645
Most of the
time I’m okay with it,
1328
01:28:38,513 --> 01:28:40,432
but then I think,
1329
01:28:40,482 --> 01:28:42,517
"Oh, I’m
going to die."
1330
01:28:44,186 --> 01:28:46,572
So how are
you feeling?
1331
01:28:52,077 --> 01:28:53,912
The wheels
are comin’ off,
1332
01:28:53,945 --> 01:28:55,830
what wheels
I have left.
1333
01:28:57,616 --> 01:29:01,503
So...
So, you’re just hanging in there, basically.
1334
01:29:03,922 --> 01:29:06,591
Yeah, I was gonna try
and make it through the holidays
1335
01:29:06,625 --> 01:29:10,846
and now I don’t know
if I will. I might have to just...
1336
01:29:10,879 --> 01:29:14,099
So, you’re going, you’re going to have
your whole family together.
1337
01:29:14,132 --> 01:29:15,967
When’s, when is Jill
coming out?
1338
01:29:16,017 --> 01:29:18,303
Well, she wasn’t
going to come until the 23rd,
1339
01:29:18,303 --> 01:29:20,856
but we may
change that.
1340
01:29:23,975 --> 01:29:27,312
I’ve done most everything
on my to-do list
1341
01:29:28,613 --> 01:29:30,815
except
1342
01:29:34,152 --> 01:29:37,038
I know my mother’s now been
diagnosed with
1343
01:29:37,072 --> 01:29:39,908
a, uhm,
1344
01:29:39,958 --> 01:29:41,910
her biopsy came back
malignant.
1345
01:29:42,911 --> 01:29:44,329
They’re very slow growing
1346
01:29:44,329 --> 01:29:45,580
and she’s 85 years old
1347
01:29:45,630 --> 01:29:48,166
and she’s not going to get
treatment.
1348
01:29:48,166 --> 01:29:52,504
And unfortunately that has not helped
our relationship.
1349
01:29:53,505 --> 01:29:56,174
She refuses
to talk about it.
1350
01:29:56,224 --> 01:29:58,977
It’s really difficult between
us right now.
1351
01:29:59,010 --> 01:30:01,396
How’s that
bang length, there?
1352
01:30:01,429 --> 01:30:04,649
You would think that would make things
easier, but it didn’t.
1353
01:30:05,901 --> 01:30:07,903
But you know,
1354
01:30:07,936 --> 01:30:10,238
just because you’re going to die
doesn’t mean
1355
01:30:10,272 --> 01:30:12,357
you’ve solved
everything in your life.
1356
01:30:14,743 --> 01:30:19,197
Let me just have you stand up.
I’m just going to check everything here.
1357
01:30:23,501 --> 01:30:26,921
I enjoy Cody’s presence
so much
1358
01:30:26,955 --> 01:30:30,375
and to think of her not being around
is very sad and
1359
01:30:30,425 --> 01:30:33,378
it’s sad in the way that you lose patients,
it’s always sad.
1360
01:30:33,428 --> 01:30:35,597
It’s sad to say good-bye
to somebody,
1361
01:30:35,630 --> 01:30:38,766
but it is also part
of life and,
1362
01:30:40,268 --> 01:30:42,053
uhm,
1363
01:30:42,103 --> 01:30:46,808
it’s something that I consider it an honor
to be a part of.
1364
01:30:46,858 --> 01:30:51,946
And I knew all along that I wanted to be
there for her if she wanted me there.
1365
01:30:51,980 --> 01:30:54,065
So when she asked if
I would be there,
1366
01:30:54,115 --> 01:30:57,285
it wasn’t really a decision.
I just knew that’s what I wanted to do.
1367
01:30:57,319 --> 01:31:00,405
And we had a very amusing
conversation where
1368
01:31:00,405 --> 01:31:03,742
we set a date
for her life to end
1369
01:31:03,742 --> 01:31:07,746
which seems very surreal
but Cody’s joking the whole way.
1370
01:31:07,746 --> 01:31:12,134
It was one of those
sad and funny and
1371
01:31:12,167 --> 01:31:16,304
inspiring conversations,
all at the same time.
1372
01:31:16,338 --> 01:31:19,424
We ended the conversation
just as I pulled in the driveway,
1373
01:31:19,424 --> 01:31:23,061
and I got out and walked into the house
and I told my husband,
1374
01:31:23,094 --> 01:31:25,730
"Uhm, I just made a date with someone
for them to
1375
01:31:25,764 --> 01:31:27,816
um, end their life."
1376
01:31:27,849 --> 01:31:31,486
And he knew, of course, what I was talking about,
but it was a very interesting
1377
01:31:31,519 --> 01:31:32,937
conversation.
1378
01:31:55,677 --> 01:31:59,097
Linda had said all along that when
it’s time, you’ll know
1379
01:31:59,130 --> 01:32:01,132
and it’s true.
1380
01:32:03,134 --> 01:32:05,303
And I thought
it would just happen.
1381
01:32:05,353 --> 01:32:07,388
I thought I would
drift away
1382
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,891
but my body’s so strong.
1383
01:32:09,941 --> 01:32:12,310
It was clear that
I wasn’t going to drift away,
1384
01:32:12,310 --> 01:32:16,064
that it was going
to be excruciating and long.
1385
01:32:17,115 --> 01:32:20,318
So, I’m going to take the
1386
01:32:20,318 --> 01:32:23,705
the Seconal,
Monday at six o’clock.
1387
01:32:23,738 --> 01:32:25,707
Actually, I’ll take the
1388
01:32:25,740 --> 01:32:28,826
the, the first
two pills at 5:15pm
1389
01:32:28,877 --> 01:32:32,080
and then my surgeon
will be here
1390
01:32:32,130 --> 01:32:33,999
’cause we were
worried that I
1391
01:32:33,998 --> 01:32:38,302
would lose my ability
to swallow or keep anything down.
1392
01:32:38,336 --> 01:32:40,138
She has a full day
on clinic
1393
01:32:40,171 --> 01:32:43,841
but she’ll be done
at six, and so six it is.
1394
01:32:43,892 --> 01:32:46,011
Hey mom?
Yeah.
1395
01:32:46,061 --> 01:32:48,647
Sorry, I’m, uh,
1396
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,265
it says
1397
01:32:52,934 --> 01:32:54,018
to melt
1398
01:32:54,069 --> 01:32:56,071
four squares of semi-sweet
chocolate.
1399
01:32:56,104 --> 01:32:58,690
Yeah, but I think this is better
and it’s darker.
1400
01:32:58,740 --> 01:33:00,659
I think people
would like that better.
1401
01:33:00,692 --> 01:33:02,911
And the top is so thin it’s nice
to have it as
1402
01:33:02,944 --> 01:33:05,413
as the darker,
less sweet chocolate.
1403
01:33:05,447 --> 01:33:06,999
Plus vanilla.
Yeah.
1404
01:33:07,031 --> 01:33:10,451
So, any amount of vanilla?
Oh...
1405
01:33:10,502 --> 01:33:12,120
Yeah, any amount.
1406
01:33:12,170 --> 01:33:15,540
Just pour the vanilla
in there!
1407
01:33:15,590 --> 01:33:18,593
Put two teaspoons...
Of vanilla.
1408
01:33:18,626 --> 01:33:20,128
Ouch, ooh.
1409
01:33:20,178 --> 01:33:22,213
Laughing makes my stomach
really hurt.
1410
01:33:22,213 --> 01:33:24,849
That’s worse
than crying.
1411
01:33:24,883 --> 01:33:28,303
No more laughing, T.
1412
01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:30,471
My mom’s
1413
01:33:30,522 --> 01:33:33,392
been making Christmas bars
every year,
1414
01:33:33,441 --> 01:33:36,861
they’re everybody’s
favorite cookie, but
1415
01:33:36,895 --> 01:33:40,115
nobody else in our family
really knew how to make ’em.
1416
01:33:40,148 --> 01:33:41,816
So, it was
1417
01:33:41,866 --> 01:33:43,951
great to learn how to make them.
1418
01:33:43,985 --> 01:33:45,954
I think this is perfect.
1419
01:33:47,122 --> 01:33:49,658
My hands are shaking.
1420
01:33:49,707 --> 01:33:51,576
I think that because it was
1421
01:33:51,626 --> 01:33:54,045
just a couple of days before
1422
01:33:54,078 --> 01:33:56,747
my mom chose to do
Death With Dignity,
1423
01:33:56,798 --> 01:33:59,334
there was kind of like,
"Well, this is it."
1424
01:33:59,384 --> 01:34:01,970
If there’s anything else
that you really want to make,
1425
01:34:02,003 --> 01:34:05,423
we should make it
together in the next two days.
1426
01:34:05,423 --> 01:34:09,477
I kind of, already had a food
relationship with my mom,
1427
01:34:09,511 --> 01:34:12,681
of trying recipes and cooking
with her.
1428
01:34:12,730 --> 01:34:15,433
All right, thank you T
that’s brilliant.
1429
01:34:19,988 --> 01:34:22,240
Looks really
nice T,
1430
01:34:22,273 --> 01:34:25,443
although I should
put in a big X and an O in there.
1431
01:34:26,444 --> 01:34:29,030
So, this was kind of like
1432
01:34:29,948 --> 01:34:32,200
uh, the last recipe.
1433
01:34:32,250 --> 01:34:36,204
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you mom.
1434
01:34:36,254 --> 01:34:39,424
All right, lie down.
Okay, bye.
1435
01:34:47,932 --> 01:34:52,186
Oh, and there’s some t-shirts.
This I’m going to...
1436
01:34:52,220 --> 01:34:54,222
Talking
to myself.
1437
01:34:54,272 --> 01:34:57,275
That’s great on you Megan.
I love the way this feels.
1438
01:34:57,308 --> 01:35:00,528
It has sparkle in it.
I know it does, but see it’s got
1439
01:35:00,562 --> 01:35:02,447
perfect on your coloring.
1440
01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:08,319
Ah, I like it on you.
You think it’s okay?
1441
01:35:08,319 --> 01:35:09,787
I thought it would be
1442
01:35:09,821 --> 01:35:12,874
scary and apprehensive,
1443
01:35:12,907 --> 01:35:15,326
like all the people
you read about on death row,
1444
01:35:15,326 --> 01:35:17,879
but it doesn’t
feel like that at all.
1445
01:35:17,912 --> 01:35:20,081
Not that I’ve
been on death row,
1446
01:35:20,131 --> 01:35:23,084
but I’m not considering any
last minute appeals.
1447
01:35:25,003 --> 01:35:27,255
Stan liked that one, but
it’s too short.
1448
01:35:27,305 --> 01:35:29,424
But it was cool.
1449
01:35:29,474 --> 01:35:31,343
You’re not going to
wear them again?
1450
01:35:31,392 --> 01:35:33,010
Ah, you mean tomorrow?
1451
01:35:33,011 --> 01:35:35,180
And Monday?
1452
01:35:35,230 --> 01:35:38,600
I am on a lot of morphine
1453
01:35:38,650 --> 01:35:42,154
now. Seventy five milligrams
1454
01:35:42,186 --> 01:35:43,571
an hour,
1455
01:35:43,605 --> 01:35:45,323
and it’s not going to be better
for very long.
1456
01:35:45,373 --> 01:35:48,326
It’s just going
to keep sliding.
1457
01:35:48,376 --> 01:35:50,912
Stan was so funny.
Yesterday he says,
1458
01:35:50,962 --> 01:35:56,384
"Okay, well I want to know where the
checkbook is and all the stuff I need to know."
1459
01:35:56,417 --> 01:35:59,086
I have tried
1460
01:35:59,137 --> 01:36:01,923
to show you this for the last
1461
01:36:01,973 --> 01:36:05,593
for the last
thirty five years."
1462
01:36:06,728 --> 01:36:08,813
Oh, I had this,
1463
01:36:08,846 --> 01:36:10,731
I had this for you.
1464
01:36:10,765 --> 01:36:15,019
Now, close your eyes
and put out your hand.
1465
01:36:15,069 --> 01:36:17,521
Mom, do you want
me to butter the pans?
1466
01:36:20,024 --> 01:36:22,193
It’s been
in my bedside.
1467
01:36:23,661 --> 01:36:26,948
Mom?
What? No, you don’t need to butter the pan.
1468
01:36:35,340 --> 01:36:38,376
I meant to get it wrapped,
but I didn’t.
1469
01:36:42,180 --> 01:36:43,598
Really,
1470
01:36:43,631 --> 01:36:47,718
up to the last few weeks it’s been a
walk in the park.
1471
01:36:48,853 --> 01:36:50,555
I had no idea.
1472
01:36:50,555 --> 01:36:52,774
It’s kind of like,
"So, this is what
1473
01:36:52,807 --> 01:36:55,143
terminal cancer is like.
1474
01:36:55,193 --> 01:36:56,861
This is not fun.
1475
01:36:56,894 --> 01:36:59,196
I didn’t sign up for this.
1476
01:36:59,230 --> 01:37:00,898
Oh wait,
1477
01:37:00,898 --> 01:37:04,068
there’s a,
1478
01:37:04,068 --> 01:37:07,872
there’s a, there’s a door
I can open."
1479
01:37:11,409 --> 01:37:14,662
You want to get up?
Yes. I have to have...
1480
01:37:17,248 --> 01:37:19,417
Oh, that’s good T.
1481
01:37:19,417 --> 01:37:21,886
That’s...you did a good job.
1482
01:37:21,919 --> 01:37:25,973
You can get a little more...and the rivets
are really hard.
1483
01:37:26,007 --> 01:37:28,259
These pots with rivets.
1484
01:37:28,309 --> 01:37:30,261
Nope, you did
pretty brilliantly.
1485
01:37:31,429 --> 01:37:34,349
Good job, sweetie.
1486
01:37:35,733 --> 01:37:37,935
So you don’t want the lick?
1487
01:37:37,985 --> 01:37:39,687
No? Okay.
1488
01:37:39,737 --> 01:37:43,157
You don’t want to have to come running
again do you? All right.
1489
01:37:46,027 --> 01:37:47,946
Well, thank you, sweetie.
You did a,
1490
01:37:47,995 --> 01:37:50,948
you did a brilliant job. I think it was
mostly you.
1491
01:37:51,032 --> 01:37:52,617
Well, Megan helped.
1492
01:37:52,617 --> 01:37:57,038
So thank you, and you helped.
...help, didn’t you?
1493
01:38:32,156 --> 01:38:34,542
But I just wanted it to be
a happy day.
1494
01:38:36,544 --> 01:38:39,997
And you musn’t think that ’cause I’m crying
now that I’m not happy.
1495
01:38:40,047 --> 01:38:41,215
I am.
1496
01:38:42,250 --> 01:38:44,719
I just cry easily.
1497
01:38:56,264 --> 01:38:58,066
Should we do one last song?
1498
01:38:58,099 --> 01:39:00,351
Okay, one last song. What
have you got?
1499
01:39:00,351 --> 01:39:01,936
Ah, You are
My Sunshine?
1500
01:39:01,986 --> 01:39:05,072
Oh that’s a good one.
We can do that one.
1501
01:39:05,106 --> 01:39:07,609
You are my sunshine.
1502
01:39:07,658 --> 01:39:10,444
My only sunshine.
1503
01:39:10,495 --> 01:39:15,917
You make me happy
when skies are grey.
1504
01:39:15,950 --> 01:39:21,672
You’ll never know dear
how much I love you.
1505
01:39:21,706 --> 01:39:26,878
Please don’t take
my sunshine away.
1506
01:39:26,961 --> 01:39:31,716
The other night, dear
when I am sleeping.
1507
01:39:31,766 --> 01:39:36,304
I dreamt I held you in my arms.
1508
01:39:47,982 --> 01:39:49,901
On the other hand.
1509
01:39:52,570 --> 01:39:58,042
You have other ideas?
How about Jingle Bells?
1510
01:39:58,075 --> 01:40:00,411
While dashing through the snow
1511
01:40:00,411 --> 01:40:02,079
In a one horse open sleigh.
1512
01:40:02,129 --> 01:40:03,580
Oh yeah, that’s a...
1513
01:40:03,581 --> 01:40:07,385
O’er the fields
we go, laughing all the way.
1514
01:40:19,146 --> 01:40:23,267
Oh what fun it is to ride in
a one horse open sleigh. Hey!
1515
01:40:25,436 --> 01:40:34,612
...jingle all the way. Oh what fun
it is to ride in a one horse open sleigh.
1516
01:40:35,997 --> 01:40:38,616
Ah, very nice.
1517
01:40:38,666 --> 01:40:41,335
Six o’clock, hmm. What should
we do?
1518
01:40:41,369 --> 01:40:44,455
Hey!
Well, hello.
1519
01:40:44,505 --> 01:40:47,091
Hello, Dr. Kate!
Sorry to be late.
1520
01:40:47,124 --> 01:40:49,627
Oh no, you’re wonderful.
Hey guys.
1521
01:40:49,627 --> 01:40:54,932
You are the cat’s pajamas. You are...
1522
01:40:56,968 --> 01:40:59,304
Oh, I can hear
the spoon clinking.
1523
01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:11,699
And I got some Gatorade in there, so she’s good to go.
Okay.
1524
01:41:13,284 --> 01:41:15,787
Finish off that last little piece.
1525
01:41:17,154 --> 01:41:18,822
Okay.
1526
01:41:18,823 --> 01:41:21,876
You guys are ready? Family’s all ready?
Yep. We’re good.
1527
01:41:21,909 --> 01:41:24,545
It should only take a couple
minutes, daddy.
1528
01:41:24,579 --> 01:41:27,332
Oh, I can stay.
Okay.
1529
01:41:27,381 --> 01:41:28,999
I love you so much, mama.
1530
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,135
I know.
I love you too, sweetie.
1531
01:41:33,471 --> 01:41:38,009
There’s holiday Kleenex in the next room.
1532
01:41:40,011 --> 01:41:42,397
Are we good?
I think that’s good.
1533
01:41:55,943 --> 01:41:59,330
Are you ready?
Yeah, I’m ready.
1534
01:41:59,363 --> 01:42:01,916
Thank you, Linda.
1535
01:42:01,949 --> 01:42:05,503
Oh, I feel like I should give you a hug.
Can I have a hug?
1536
01:42:05,536 --> 01:42:11,008
Yes.
Thank you. Oh wait!
1537
01:42:11,042 --> 01:42:17,215
I forgot there’s someone
important here.
1538
01:42:23,387 --> 01:42:25,773
I love you honey.
1539
01:42:25,806 --> 01:42:28,809
Cody, this tastes terrible. I’ve told you
that before.
1540
01:42:28,859 --> 01:42:30,060
Yeah.
1541
01:42:30,061 --> 01:42:34,032
It tastes really terrible. So
just drink it down
1542
01:42:36,450 --> 01:42:38,619
Oh yeah, yeah.
1543
01:42:38,653 --> 01:42:41,956
Straight down is the best
without...
1544
01:42:45,493 --> 01:42:48,379
Wow! Nice work.
1545
01:42:48,412 --> 01:42:50,547
Do you want the rest?
Blach!
1546
01:42:50,581 --> 01:42:53,417
Blach? No?
That’ll do it. Do I have to?
1547
01:42:59,674 --> 01:43:04,095
Now, you’ll start getting
a little bit sleepy
1548
01:43:04,095 --> 01:43:08,933
and uhm, go to sleep. I’m going
to step out so
1549
01:43:08,983 --> 01:43:13,070
that you can have this time with your family.
Okay.
1550
01:43:13,104 --> 01:43:15,189
Blah, boy does
that taste terrible.
1551
01:43:15,239 --> 01:43:18,943
I’m just going to give you a quick hug
before you get sleepy.
1552
01:43:20,327 --> 01:43:22,362
With grace, as always.
1553
01:43:32,006 --> 01:43:35,960
It was a great day, honey. Thank you.
And a great weekend.
1554
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,880
Practically perfect.
1555
01:43:38,929 --> 01:43:42,266
And thank you mama and daddy
for coming
1556
01:43:42,299 --> 01:43:45,135
and for singing me out.
1557
01:43:45,136 --> 01:43:48,890
And thank you
for coming so long ago.
1558
01:43:50,891 --> 01:43:54,478
The room’s starting to go
around and around.
1559
01:43:54,528 --> 01:43:58,399
That’s generally not a good sign.
1560
01:44:03,037 --> 01:44:06,574
This is so easy.
I wish people
1561
01:44:06,624 --> 01:44:10,044
knew how easy this was.
1562
01:44:10,127 --> 01:44:13,464
It’s a good thing.
Thank you, Dr. Kate.
1563
01:44:14,498 --> 01:44:16,216
Oh, no problem.
1564
01:44:18,252 --> 01:44:21,338
I love you, honey.
1565
01:44:22,339 --> 01:44:25,142
Thirty six years.
1566
01:44:26,477 --> 01:44:28,929
I’m 54 years.
1567
01:44:32,183 --> 01:44:34,686
I’m drifting.
I’m drifting.
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