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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:58,091 --> 00:01:01,227 And, does anyone have questions? Okay. 2 00:01:05,933 --> 00:01:08,486 He has to drink, if he can, 3 00:01:08,518 --> 00:01:11,604 sixty to ninety seconds. 4 00:01:11,655 --> 00:01:16,193 He drinks the medication, and that will put him in a coma, 5 00:01:16,243 --> 00:01:18,829 within a matter of minutes, 6 00:01:18,862 --> 00:01:20,330 and after that... 7 00:01:21,248 --> 00:01:22,866 We wait for me to die. 8 00:01:22,866 --> 00:01:25,335 Yeah, and we can never predict how long that’ll take. 9 00:01:25,369 --> 00:01:28,339 Now, Roger, uh, I talked to the other woman in there, 10 00:01:28,372 --> 00:01:30,708 and she said the stuff tastes pretty nasty, 11 00:01:30,707 --> 00:01:33,176 you could have some juice or something in there 12 00:01:33,210 --> 00:01:35,879 to take the taste out. I want to see if... 13 00:01:35,879 --> 00:01:39,349 Yeah, I’d like to have something... We have cream soda. 14 00:01:39,383 --> 00:01:40,851 Oh, you do. Okay. 15 00:01:40,884 --> 00:01:43,970 Do you want to get that ready, in case Roger wanted some? 16 00:01:44,021 --> 00:01:46,774 Bring the goddamn glass, already. Roger, wait a minute. 17 00:01:46,807 --> 00:01:48,726 Before you take it, 18 00:01:48,725 --> 00:01:52,479 I’m gonna ask you those two questions again, Sure. 19 00:01:52,529 --> 00:01:55,449 and I’m serious, you have the right to change your mind. 20 00:01:55,482 --> 00:01:57,617 My mind’s not changing. All right, 21 00:01:57,651 --> 00:02:00,320 and what will this medication do? 22 00:02:00,370 --> 00:02:02,539 It will kill me, and make me happy. 23 00:02:04,074 --> 00:02:06,543 We can hand you the medication now, 24 00:02:06,576 --> 00:02:10,914 and we ask you to drink it, in sixty to ninety seconds. 25 00:02:10,964 --> 00:02:14,718 You don’t have to gulp it, just take it slowly. 26 00:02:14,751 --> 00:02:17,420 It tastes, pretty bad, 27 00:02:17,471 --> 00:02:21,258 but you have here a soft drink to chase it down with 28 00:02:21,308 --> 00:02:23,677 afterwards, if you cannot take it solely. 29 00:02:23,727 --> 00:02:25,596 Mmm-hmm. Do you have any final words 30 00:02:25,595 --> 00:02:27,397 you’d like to say to your family? 31 00:02:27,431 --> 00:02:29,183 I thank you all for being here. 32 00:02:29,266 --> 00:02:31,485 We love you, Rog. 33 00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:35,939 We’ll leave you alone. 34 00:02:35,939 --> 00:02:38,024 I thank the 35 00:02:38,075 --> 00:02:39,910 wisdom 36 00:02:39,943 --> 00:02:42,112 of the voters of the state of Oregon, 37 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:45,248 for allowing me 38 00:02:45,282 --> 00:02:46,450 the honor 39 00:02:47,918 --> 00:02:50,120 of doing myself in 40 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:52,456 at my own volition, 41 00:02:52,506 --> 00:02:54,258 to solve my own problems. 42 00:02:55,842 --> 00:02:57,594 So, thank you all. 43 00:02:57,627 --> 00:02:59,929 We love you. We love you, Rog. 44 00:02:59,963 --> 00:03:03,133 I don’t really want to watch this part. 45 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:08,639 Well, it’s kind of too late now. 46 00:03:08,638 --> 00:03:11,975 You don’t have to gulp it, Roger. You can drink it slowly. 47 00:03:11,975 --> 00:03:13,560 Slow it down. 48 00:03:16,313 --> 00:03:18,615 Can somebody wipe my chin? Sure. 49 00:03:21,318 --> 00:03:23,153 Tastes like wood. 50 00:03:25,489 --> 00:03:28,042 He’s never been a drinker, so he wouldn’t know it. 51 00:03:28,075 --> 00:03:30,628 What wood is? Not about wood alcohol. 52 00:03:30,660 --> 00:03:33,329 Ready? Lift him, lift him. 53 00:03:34,414 --> 00:03:36,082 Ah, it’s comin’. 54 00:03:37,167 --> 00:03:38,468 Ah, it’s comin’. 55 00:03:39,836 --> 00:03:42,756 For my head is hanging low, 56 00:03:44,307 --> 00:03:48,011 I hear the gentle voices calling. 57 00:03:49,146 --> 00:03:52,149 Old, black Joe. 58 00:03:53,150 --> 00:03:54,485 I thank you all, 59 00:03:55,769 --> 00:03:57,738 particularly the team 60 00:03:57,771 --> 00:04:00,023 that prepared the medicine. 61 00:04:00,073 --> 00:04:02,993 Tell the next person that it tastes "woody," 62 00:04:03,026 --> 00:04:06,246 but it is not, it is not rejectable. 63 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:10,534 It was easy, folks. It was easy. 64 00:04:13,537 --> 00:04:15,839 Good-bye, Roger. 65 00:05:05,972 --> 00:05:09,342 Gordon Green, doctor dropped a prescription off for me this morning. 66 00:05:09,392 --> 00:05:12,178 Gordon Green? Yes. 67 00:05:12,229 --> 00:05:15,599 I have Blue Cross Regency, First Choice 65. 68 00:05:15,599 --> 00:05:17,768 Do you have your card with you? You bet, 69 00:05:17,818 --> 00:05:19,937 I didn’t think this would be covered. 70 00:05:20,937 --> 00:05:22,272 All righty, 71 00:05:22,272 --> 00:05:25,942 your total, sir, comes to $89.52. Mmm-hmm. 72 00:05:27,277 --> 00:05:28,945 There’s your merchandise. 73 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:30,330 There’s your card back. 74 00:05:30,363 --> 00:05:32,615 Thank you very much. Well, thank you. 75 00:05:32,616 --> 00:05:34,535 and have a very good day. 76 00:05:34,584 --> 00:05:37,087 I’m going to, everyday’s a good one. 77 00:05:38,371 --> 00:05:40,256 How you doin’? Fine. 78 00:05:40,290 --> 00:05:42,676 Yeah, we’ll hurry home. 79 00:05:50,183 --> 00:05:52,352 Where do you want this? I’ll take it. 80 00:05:52,385 --> 00:05:54,137 I’ve gotta find out if 81 00:05:54,137 --> 00:05:56,356 I have to refrigerate it, or not. 82 00:05:56,389 --> 00:05:58,775 Apparently not, it didn’t say nothin’. 83 00:06:00,810 --> 00:06:04,230 This here is the final medicine I’ll have to take. 84 00:06:11,204 --> 00:06:13,039 Hi Sue, this is Gordon, 85 00:06:13,073 --> 00:06:15,993 I know it’s Sunday, and I just leave a message for ya. 86 00:06:15,992 --> 00:06:18,244 Yeah, I picked up the medication today, 87 00:06:18,295 --> 00:06:21,799 at Buy Mart, and we have it here, in the house. 88 00:06:21,831 --> 00:06:25,301 Have a good day, and a good weekend. Good-bye. 89 00:06:38,265 --> 00:06:41,351 There, oh boy. 90 00:06:42,986 --> 00:06:45,489 Well, I’m glad that’s done. 91 00:06:45,522 --> 00:06:48,909 Yes, that was easier than I thought. 92 00:06:48,942 --> 00:06:50,110 Yeah. 93 00:06:56,866 --> 00:07:01,671 Hi Sue, this is Gordon. I know it’s Sunday, and I just leave a message for ya. 94 00:07:24,311 --> 00:07:26,563 I feel very privileged 95 00:07:26,563 --> 00:07:30,067 to be on the forefront of such a vital 96 00:07:30,116 --> 00:07:34,037 medical, social and political movement. 97 00:07:36,623 --> 00:07:40,494 What I think about when I’m meeting someone for the first time, 98 00:07:40,543 --> 00:07:44,080 is, there’s always some anxiety, 99 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,750 and I think that that anxiety is productive. 100 00:07:47,801 --> 00:07:50,754 I would never want to become, 101 00:07:50,754 --> 00:07:55,058 uh, laissez faire about this whole process. 102 00:07:56,092 --> 00:07:58,811 And what I think about is, 103 00:07:58,845 --> 00:08:03,099 are they going to understand exactly what it is 104 00:08:03,099 --> 00:08:07,320 they’re pursuing, and what the process is? 105 00:08:07,404 --> 00:08:10,941 And also, what’s almost always foremost on my mind, 106 00:08:10,991 --> 00:08:13,861 is that they know, that they are in charge. 107 00:08:13,910 --> 00:08:16,112 That they’re the boss. 108 00:08:16,162 --> 00:08:17,413 Hi Elizabeth. 109 00:08:36,182 --> 00:08:39,802 Hi Mrs. Lucke, I’m Sue Porter, with Compassion. 110 00:08:39,803 --> 00:08:43,390 We’ve talked on the phone a few times regarding 111 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,143 wanting to make your own end of life choices, 112 00:08:47,060 --> 00:08:49,145 and getting a medication 113 00:08:49,145 --> 00:08:53,650 to maybe, end your life, if that’s what you choose to do. 114 00:08:53,650 --> 00:08:54,985 So, I’m here to... 115 00:09:10,834 --> 00:09:12,969 These people 116 00:09:13,002 --> 00:09:18,508 have lost so much control, and they tell us repeatedly 117 00:09:18,508 --> 00:09:21,728 that they want the medication, for control. 118 00:09:21,761 --> 00:09:25,181 Whether they take the medication, or whether they don’t, 119 00:09:25,231 --> 00:09:28,901 at least, they can make that decision. 120 00:09:30,186 --> 00:09:32,855 Unfortunately, I was diagnosed 121 00:09:32,906 --> 00:09:36,276 with ALS, about a year ago, 122 00:09:36,326 --> 00:09:38,745 and I just received my 123 00:09:38,778 --> 00:09:41,948 uh, six months diagnosis 124 00:09:41,998 --> 00:09:43,333 to live. 125 00:09:43,366 --> 00:09:47,921 I still can walk, with difficulty, but that’s when 126 00:09:47,954 --> 00:09:50,373 that ends, then I’m gonna 127 00:09:50,373 --> 00:09:53,509 you know, be makin’ that decision. 128 00:09:53,543 --> 00:09:59,215 So, Gail, how do you react to everything that Peter is saying? 129 00:09:59,215 --> 00:10:01,968 This is the way he’s thought for a long time, 130 00:10:02,018 --> 00:10:03,636 it’s just gonna be hard, 131 00:10:03,686 --> 00:10:05,638 we’ve been together for a long time, 132 00:10:06,556 --> 00:10:07,724 and, uh, 133 00:10:09,476 --> 00:10:11,311 he’s wonderful, even now. 134 00:10:11,361 --> 00:10:14,481 He helps me in many ways. 135 00:10:14,531 --> 00:10:16,533 This is the 136 00:10:16,566 --> 00:10:18,818 request for medication, 137 00:10:18,868 --> 00:10:22,372 to end my life in a humane and dignified manner. 138 00:10:22,405 --> 00:10:26,159 You will sign this, Peter, and then you will have 139 00:10:26,209 --> 00:10:28,244 two witnesses sign it 140 00:10:28,244 --> 00:10:31,297 and what they say is that you’re of sound mind, 141 00:10:31,331 --> 00:10:37,804 and you, you might find that the time that is in your mind, 142 00:10:37,837 --> 00:10:39,922 of when you can’t walk anymore Mmm-hmm. 143 00:10:39,923 --> 00:10:42,759 might change, that changes all the time with people. Yup. 144 00:10:42,759 --> 00:10:45,895 and there is nothing set Right. 145 00:10:45,929 --> 00:10:50,233 in stone. Okay? I understand that. I appreciate it. 146 00:10:50,266 --> 00:10:52,401 Everything’s ready then. 147 00:10:52,435 --> 00:10:53,853 Okay. 148 00:10:53,937 --> 00:10:57,274 There’s a very, fine line here 149 00:10:57,273 --> 00:11:00,443 of never, ever, ever wanting them 150 00:11:00,493 --> 00:11:05,448 to think that we are selling a process. 151 00:11:05,498 --> 00:11:09,002 We’re not. What we’re doing is offering choice, 152 00:11:09,035 --> 00:11:13,957 and so as I communicate with people, and as I contact them 153 00:11:13,957 --> 00:11:17,461 I really, always want to be sensitive 154 00:11:17,460 --> 00:11:20,930 to that principle. 155 00:11:20,964 --> 00:11:23,266 Oh, make sure and request 156 00:11:23,299 --> 00:11:26,302 Seconal. You want the one that costs less? 157 00:11:26,302 --> 00:11:29,105 I don’t know. Which one is it, that you just drink? 158 00:11:29,138 --> 00:11:33,643 That’s Nembutal. Actually, I see it in these notes right here. 159 00:11:34,611 --> 00:11:36,279 Uh, Nembutal... 160 00:11:36,312 --> 00:11:40,616 We, uh, Mrs. Wakefield, we cannot quote these prices for sure, 161 00:11:40,650 --> 00:11:41,951 Yeah, right. 162 00:11:41,985 --> 00:11:44,821 I understand. but Nembutal is well over a $1,000 163 00:11:44,821 --> 00:11:47,791 Seconal is $130. 164 00:11:49,292 --> 00:11:52,295 I go into these situations 165 00:11:52,328 --> 00:11:55,832 with a certain amount of pragmatism, because I have to. 166 00:11:55,882 --> 00:11:59,552 If it were all emotional, I couldn’t do this work. 167 00:12:01,170 --> 00:12:03,673 Hi Sue! Hello Donna, how are you? 168 00:12:03,673 --> 00:12:07,393 Pretty good, how you doin’? Just fine, thank you. 169 00:12:07,460 --> 00:12:10,013 Good to see you. It’s good to see you, too. 170 00:12:10,013 --> 00:12:12,566 Hi Gordon! Hi Sue. 171 00:12:12,599 --> 00:12:14,851 You’re lookin’ great. Thank you. 172 00:12:17,604 --> 00:12:18,772 Sit up. 173 00:12:20,273 --> 00:12:21,608 Uhm, 174 00:12:21,658 --> 00:12:25,362 Donna or Gordon, do you have the medication? Yes. 175 00:12:25,445 --> 00:12:29,199 Down in the lower drawer, way in the back, right hand side. 176 00:12:29,249 --> 00:12:31,501 Yeah, we picked it up. 177 00:12:31,534 --> 00:12:33,369 No problems. Great. 178 00:12:33,369 --> 00:12:35,371 Everything went well. 179 00:12:35,421 --> 00:12:38,424 We hope it stays right there, but, uh, 180 00:12:38,458 --> 00:12:40,961 if I’m in that bed, and I’m 181 00:12:41,010 --> 00:12:44,213 racked up with a stroke or somethin’ like that 182 00:12:44,213 --> 00:12:45,881 that’s when I want it. 183 00:12:45,932 --> 00:12:48,852 I’m not gonna lay there and be a burden to her. 184 00:12:48,885 --> 00:12:50,103 You know, 185 00:12:50,136 --> 00:12:52,271 I saw my dad for twelve years 186 00:12:52,305 --> 00:12:54,974 with a stroke, and one whole side was gone. 187 00:12:56,142 --> 00:12:58,027 Says it’s like livin’ in a barrel. 188 00:12:58,061 --> 00:12:59,696 See out, hear everything, 189 00:12:59,729 --> 00:13:01,814 physically couldn’t do anything, 190 00:13:01,864 --> 00:13:04,867 and he kept saying, "I just want out." 191 00:13:04,901 --> 00:13:06,953 And my mom ended up the same way. 192 00:13:06,986 --> 00:13:08,905 She wanted out. Oh. 193 00:13:08,905 --> 00:13:10,790 And I couldn’t, I didn’t 194 00:13:10,823 --> 00:13:12,742 figure why they’d want to do that, 195 00:13:12,742 --> 00:13:14,127 but I understand now. 196 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,746 You can only handle about so much garbage, you know, 197 00:13:16,746 --> 00:13:18,414 and then you’ve had it. Mmm-hmm. 198 00:13:18,414 --> 00:13:21,667 And uh... but I’ll handle it until 199 00:13:22,835 --> 00:13:24,837 somethin’ like that happens. 200 00:13:24,887 --> 00:13:26,055 Okay. 201 00:13:27,056 --> 00:13:30,426 So, you got Seconal. 202 00:13:30,426 --> 00:13:34,680 There’s three different medications here. 203 00:13:34,731 --> 00:13:37,267 I know we’ve talked about this before, but you know, 204 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:40,019 we represent choice, we don’t represent death. Oh yeah. 205 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:42,021 So, um, 206 00:13:42,071 --> 00:13:46,075 if you were ever going to make the choice to take this medication, 207 00:13:46,109 --> 00:13:47,744 this is how it would work. 208 00:13:47,777 --> 00:13:50,330 I’d ask you two questions. First of all: 209 00:13:50,363 --> 00:13:52,866 You have the right to change your mind. 210 00:13:52,915 --> 00:13:55,951 And secondly, I would ask you 211 00:13:56,002 --> 00:13:59,923 to explain to me what this medication is going to do. 212 00:13:59,956 --> 00:14:03,710 And you have the choice of doing this any way you want. 213 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,795 You could have just Donna here. 214 00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:08,631 You could have friends here. Nah. 215 00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:09,849 Just this one. 216 00:14:09,882 --> 00:14:11,550 You can always change your mind. 217 00:14:11,601 --> 00:14:13,636 Mmm-hmm. It’s totally up to you. 218 00:14:13,636 --> 00:14:15,972 And then, what this is, is Seconal. 219 00:14:16,022 --> 00:14:18,892 In Seconal, there’s a hundred capsules in here. 220 00:14:18,941 --> 00:14:20,976 You don’t take a hundred capsules. 221 00:14:20,977 --> 00:14:23,646 That would take me all day. Yeah, exactly. 222 00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:26,148 I would be exhausted. Yeah, yeah. 223 00:14:26,149 --> 00:14:29,285 What, um, I would do is open ’em up 224 00:14:29,318 --> 00:14:31,787 and um, empty the powder 225 00:14:31,821 --> 00:14:36,876 and then add six ounces of room temperature water. 226 00:14:36,909 --> 00:14:40,713 I’d have a good, cold beer to wash that down. 227 00:14:40,747 --> 00:14:43,049 Yeah. You could have whatever you want. 228 00:14:43,082 --> 00:14:46,586 Um, this has to be consumed in about a minute, 229 00:14:46,636 --> 00:14:49,422 or minute and a half. Oh, that’s a piece of cake. 230 00:14:49,472 --> 00:14:53,009 and normally, uh, people go into a coma, 231 00:14:53,009 --> 00:14:55,512 really Gordon, within a few minutes. 232 00:14:55,561 --> 00:14:58,097 Oh, the heart’s so bad it wouldn’t handle it. 233 00:14:58,147 --> 00:15:00,933 Yeah. I mean it should pop it right off the bat. 234 00:15:00,983 --> 00:15:03,686 I’m getting little episodes damn near every day now. 235 00:15:03,686 --> 00:15:05,354 You are? 236 00:15:05,354 --> 00:15:07,656 So I don’t think I’m going to need that, but I wanna just 237 00:15:07,690 --> 00:15:10,993 just go in there, lay down some day and go to sleep, and not wake up. 238 00:15:11,027 --> 00:15:13,029 That’s the decent thing to do. Mmm-hmm. 239 00:15:13,029 --> 00:15:16,699 So for once in my life, I’ll be decent. 240 00:15:21,754 --> 00:15:25,174 I’m feeling good. We can do this again. 241 00:15:25,208 --> 00:15:28,178 It’s not the last one. 242 00:15:28,211 --> 00:15:30,680 I’d forgotten how steep these hills are. 243 00:15:32,381 --> 00:15:34,884 Okay... 244 00:15:34,884 --> 00:15:37,920 shall we... I think this is... 245 00:15:39,355 --> 00:15:40,973 Well, actually, 246 00:15:41,057 --> 00:15:43,276 should we try and go to the top? I’m good for it. 247 00:15:43,309 --> 00:15:46,395 What if it’s uphill on the way back? Should we... 248 00:15:47,396 --> 00:15:49,531 Okay, well you can carry me back. 249 00:15:49,565 --> 00:15:52,985 Okay. 250 00:15:53,019 --> 00:15:55,622 I am feeling so good. I got a lot done 251 00:15:55,655 --> 00:15:58,124 this morning, already. I went to Goodwill. 252 00:15:58,157 --> 00:16:01,510 Oh, which reminds me, I was going to invite people to shop my closet 253 00:16:01,544 --> 00:16:04,630 but you guys could go first. 254 00:16:11,254 --> 00:16:13,256 You’ve gotta touch the tree. 255 00:16:17,426 --> 00:16:20,512 Chris said she wanted an old sweat suit, shirt of yours. 256 00:16:20,563 --> 00:16:23,232 She did? She wants that green hoodie. I thought 257 00:16:23,266 --> 00:16:25,819 that’s a good idea, then I thought what do I want? 258 00:16:25,852 --> 00:16:29,939 And then I said, "Can I have the Volvo?" 259 00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:32,742 You may borrow it any time. 260 00:16:34,777 --> 00:16:38,364 Um, well, I think 261 00:16:38,414 --> 00:16:40,199 we can loop back down. 262 00:16:40,249 --> 00:16:42,334 through the... How are you feeling? 263 00:16:42,368 --> 00:16:44,837 I’m good. Actually, 264 00:16:44,871 --> 00:16:48,007 if you want the Volvo, Stan will probably... 265 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,878 In November of 07, I had a terrible stomach ache. 266 00:16:52,929 --> 00:16:56,466 It was kind of pain that takes your breath away, which I never, ever have. 267 00:16:56,516 --> 00:17:00,887 So, I hike myself into the doctor a few weeks later. 268 00:17:00,937 --> 00:17:03,606 She ordered an ultrasound for me, 269 00:17:03,639 --> 00:17:07,610 and she got the results of the ultrasound, then she called me into her office 270 00:17:07,643 --> 00:17:09,945 and then she burst into tears. 271 00:17:09,979 --> 00:17:11,697 Um, 272 00:17:11,731 --> 00:17:13,866 and she said, "You have a big mass on your liver." 273 00:17:16,452 --> 00:17:19,038 Cody had a primary cancer of the liver 274 00:17:19,071 --> 00:17:21,457 that was roughly the size of a grapefruit. 275 00:17:21,490 --> 00:17:24,043 It was the type of cancer that we don’t have any good 276 00:17:24,076 --> 00:17:25,461 chemotherapy agents for, 277 00:17:25,494 --> 00:17:27,913 or any good radiation agents for. So, 278 00:17:27,964 --> 00:17:29,666 it’s the type of cancer that 279 00:17:29,665 --> 00:17:31,333 is treated surgically, 280 00:17:31,384 --> 00:17:34,504 or we don’t have a lot of effective options for. 281 00:17:34,554 --> 00:17:37,674 We kind of had the one shot of taking it all out and 282 00:17:37,723 --> 00:17:40,509 and, hoping that that was going to be enough for her. 283 00:17:44,013 --> 00:17:46,015 I had the first surgery. 284 00:17:46,015 --> 00:17:47,767 It seemed to have gone all right 285 00:17:47,817 --> 00:17:51,237 and then there were complications, and I ended up in the ICU, 286 00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:53,522 um, in the hospital for fifty days. 287 00:17:55,191 --> 00:17:57,326 I was in a coma for quite a while. 288 00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:58,695 And all of a sudden 289 00:17:58,694 --> 00:18:00,663 I open my eyes really wide and said, 290 00:18:00,696 --> 00:18:02,531 "What is happening to me?" 291 00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:07,370 The night before 292 00:18:07,370 --> 00:18:09,038 her second procedure, 293 00:18:09,038 --> 00:18:13,543 she was supposed to be taking pain medication, pills, 294 00:18:13,593 --> 00:18:17,430 and she was throwing up and couldn’t keep the pills down. 295 00:18:17,463 --> 00:18:20,216 So, the pain medication was wearing off 296 00:18:20,266 --> 00:18:22,185 and she said then you know, 297 00:18:23,386 --> 00:18:25,555 "I don’t ever want another night like that." 298 00:18:29,525 --> 00:18:31,694 If she had died in the hospital 299 00:18:31,727 --> 00:18:35,197 it really would have felt like she was pulled out of our hands 300 00:18:35,231 --> 00:18:37,533 because then you’re still 301 00:18:37,566 --> 00:18:39,618 fighting to keep her. 302 00:18:39,652 --> 00:18:44,407 And that’s what hospitals are about. It’s about that fight to keep people alive. 303 00:18:47,043 --> 00:18:48,962 I had to learn to walk again. 304 00:18:48,995 --> 00:18:53,883 I couldn’t eat. I couldn’t go to the bathroom by myself. I couldn’t shower by myself. 305 00:18:53,916 --> 00:18:56,502 I fell and I couldn’t get up. 306 00:18:56,552 --> 00:19:00,840 It took six months before I was able to take care of myself again. 307 00:19:03,175 --> 00:19:07,563 We were actually all starting to feel that maybe we’d dodged the bullet, 308 00:19:07,596 --> 00:19:09,515 and then the radiologist said 309 00:19:09,598 --> 00:19:13,402 "You know there was something that looked a little funny on the CAT Scan." 310 00:19:15,021 --> 00:19:17,774 I saw it, and had to give her that call saying that 311 00:19:17,773 --> 00:19:20,659 there was obvious cancer recurrence. 312 00:19:20,693 --> 00:19:25,331 The cancer was back and we didn’t have any really good options for her. 313 00:19:28,117 --> 00:19:31,120 The outcomes for this disease have not changed 314 00:19:31,153 --> 00:19:32,955 in 30 years. 315 00:19:32,955 --> 00:19:34,673 If you can cut it out, great. 316 00:19:34,707 --> 00:19:37,510 If you miss any cancer, it’ll be back 317 00:19:37,543 --> 00:19:39,378 and it’ll be more aggressive. 318 00:19:39,428 --> 00:19:41,547 She said, "If this comes back, 319 00:19:41,597 --> 00:19:44,100 I know that I don’t have any good treatment options 320 00:19:44,133 --> 00:19:45,635 and I want to be able to 321 00:19:45,685 --> 00:19:49,138 have that in reserve, the Death with Dignity Law." 322 00:19:49,138 --> 00:19:52,725 It kind of shocked me thinking about it in the intellectual realm 323 00:19:52,808 --> 00:19:55,194 of, this is a law that supports my values versus 324 00:19:55,227 --> 00:19:56,945 I’m actually going to take a pen 325 00:19:56,979 --> 00:19:59,448 and write a prescription for something that will 326 00:19:59,482 --> 00:20:02,318 end someone’s life. 327 00:20:02,368 --> 00:20:04,820 What really settled the decision for me was 328 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:07,740 talking to my sister, who’s a breast cancer survivor, 329 00:20:07,790 --> 00:20:10,159 and I talked to her about how much I really 330 00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:13,496 really liked this woman and how much we had been through together. 331 00:20:13,496 --> 00:20:15,915 I mean, we had slogged through a year together 332 00:20:15,965 --> 00:20:18,334 in a very close, very intimate relationship as, 333 00:20:18,334 --> 00:20:20,670 as patient and doctor, and how 334 00:20:20,669 --> 00:20:23,589 fond of her I was and fond of her family I was. 335 00:20:23,639 --> 00:20:25,925 Um, my sister just said, "Well, 336 00:20:25,975 --> 00:20:27,677 of course you’re going to do it. 337 00:20:27,676 --> 00:20:29,811 You have to help her. You’re her doctor." 338 00:20:29,845 --> 00:20:32,898 And that’s really the deciding point for me. 339 00:20:32,932 --> 00:20:36,936 If I had an option I would prefer not to die, thank you very much. 340 00:20:37,019 --> 00:20:41,156 Um, but given that I know I’m going to die, does an extra three months 341 00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:45,945 if, um, of 342 00:20:45,995 --> 00:20:48,114 fluid leaking through my pores 343 00:20:48,164 --> 00:20:49,532 sound that great? 344 00:20:49,582 --> 00:20:51,033 Well, no. 345 00:20:51,033 --> 00:20:54,670 I’d rather go when I’m still feeling okay 346 00:20:54,703 --> 00:20:57,873 and when I can still communicate with my family. 347 00:21:00,126 --> 00:21:02,595 She cares a lot about her kids. 348 00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:05,932 She’s also 349 00:21:05,965 --> 00:21:07,767 very dignified. I think 350 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,185 when she looks sick, 351 00:21:09,218 --> 00:21:11,053 for her that’s very difficult, 352 00:21:11,053 --> 00:21:14,123 because she wants to present herself as being healthy. 353 00:21:14,156 --> 00:21:16,025 I grew up in the country. 354 00:21:16,058 --> 00:21:18,477 We put our dogs and our horses down. 355 00:21:20,396 --> 00:21:22,815 We didn’t let animals suffer. 356 00:21:24,467 --> 00:21:26,285 I think Cody taught me 357 00:21:26,318 --> 00:21:27,703 that, first do no harm, 358 00:21:27,736 --> 00:21:30,072 is going to be different for every patient. 359 00:21:31,123 --> 00:21:33,158 Harm for her would have meant 360 00:21:33,209 --> 00:21:35,078 taking away the control 361 00:21:35,077 --> 00:21:37,463 and saying, "No, no, no. You’ve got to do this 362 00:21:37,496 --> 00:21:38,964 the way your body decides, 363 00:21:38,998 --> 00:21:42,418 as opposed to the way you, as a person, decides." 364 00:21:43,552 --> 00:21:46,004 Sorry. 365 00:21:46,055 --> 00:21:49,592 Did you have a shooting pain? Ah, yeah. 366 00:21:50,643 --> 00:21:53,896 Yeah. 367 00:21:55,481 --> 00:21:58,851 Are you taking any pain medication or anything? 368 00:21:58,901 --> 00:22:00,686 I got some today 369 00:22:00,736 --> 00:22:02,187 because this kind of pain 370 00:22:02,238 --> 00:22:04,824 is kind of scary. 371 00:22:04,857 --> 00:22:06,609 But I haven’t taken any. 372 00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:07,743 I never take... 373 00:22:07,776 --> 00:22:10,112 I just... 374 00:22:10,196 --> 00:22:11,864 But it’s pretty clear that 375 00:22:16,085 --> 00:22:17,620 that kind of 376 00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:20,456 pain takes away your ability to make decisions, too. 377 00:22:31,851 --> 00:22:36,439 Let’s see. So, here are the drugs. 378 00:22:36,472 --> 00:22:38,975 It’s very comforting to know that they’re right here 379 00:22:39,024 --> 00:22:41,944 and I don’t have to go through any more bureaucracy, 380 00:22:41,977 --> 00:22:46,148 I don’t have to take another trip to the pharmacy. 381 00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:49,318 Um, they’re here. The, the... 382 00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:52,872 it’s whenever I decide. 383 00:22:52,905 --> 00:22:55,291 It’s not that anything that I have to do. 384 00:22:55,324 --> 00:22:59,461 It’s not like in the hospital where I was told, "You have to have another 385 00:22:59,495 --> 00:23:04,000 CT Scan or we’re taking you down to, to 386 00:23:04,049 --> 00:23:05,801 do another procedure." 387 00:23:05,834 --> 00:23:08,387 It’s, it’s my choice 388 00:23:08,420 --> 00:23:11,840 when to take them and whether to take them. 389 00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:14,510 My volunteer has told me that I’ll know 390 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,313 and I just have to trust 391 00:23:17,346 --> 00:23:19,732 when my life isn’t worth living anymore. 392 00:23:37,032 --> 00:23:40,836 It’s a pretty day, that’s pretty amazing. 393 00:23:40,869 --> 00:23:44,339 When you guys were little we brought spare pants, and 394 00:23:44,373 --> 00:23:46,842 and spare shoes for you, but 395 00:23:46,875 --> 00:23:48,877 we didn’t do any of that this time. 396 00:23:48,877 --> 00:23:53,298 It feels a little bit like, I’m a dead woman walking. 397 00:23:53,349 --> 00:23:55,518 It’s this curious limbo of 398 00:23:55,551 --> 00:23:59,388 getting a diagnosis that’s this dire 399 00:23:59,388 --> 00:24:02,775 and having this period where 400 00:24:02,808 --> 00:24:05,861 you don’t know what’s really going to happen, except 401 00:24:05,894 --> 00:24:08,063 with Death with Dignity, 402 00:24:08,063 --> 00:24:11,233 you do have some control over what’s going to happen. 403 00:24:11,283 --> 00:24:13,368 You can offer that 404 00:24:13,402 --> 00:24:14,954 to your family. 405 00:24:16,238 --> 00:24:18,907 So, is the tide going in or out? 406 00:24:18,907 --> 00:24:23,412 Yup. Very funny. 407 00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:27,049 And so it means, you can have some good times 408 00:24:27,082 --> 00:24:29,001 and go for a walk 409 00:24:29,051 --> 00:24:33,589 and go back to the coast 410 00:24:33,639 --> 00:24:37,259 and have things be as normal as possible without being focused on 411 00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:40,596 "When’s she going to die?" Because you know that. 412 00:24:44,850 --> 00:24:48,604 My son, the engineer and mathematician 413 00:24:48,654 --> 00:24:50,489 has a little trouble with this 414 00:24:50,522 --> 00:24:53,608 and he hasn’t talked to me very much about it. 415 00:24:53,609 --> 00:24:58,330 When she found out, like a month ago, that she had cancer again, 416 00:24:58,364 --> 00:25:00,950 um, that was pretty surprising. 417 00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:03,785 She called me on the phone. 418 00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:06,539 The way that she broke the news is that 419 00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:10,158 "The cancer’s come back. I have six months to live 420 00:25:10,209 --> 00:25:13,245 and things are going to be fine. 421 00:25:13,295 --> 00:25:16,799 Uh, and it’s gonna, like, things are going to be fine? 422 00:25:16,832 --> 00:25:19,335 Six months to live and I’m not going to do anything? 423 00:25:19,385 --> 00:25:22,505 Ah, that sounds like the opposite of fine. 424 00:25:24,473 --> 00:25:30,429 How do you tell her that things are not going to be fine? 425 00:25:30,479 --> 00:25:34,350 My rational was, you know, you have two choices 426 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,736 either you can blow up on her over the phone, 427 00:25:36,769 --> 00:25:39,605 when she just found out she had cancer, 428 00:25:39,655 --> 00:25:43,108 um, and make her feel even worse, 429 00:25:44,326 --> 00:25:46,445 or you can just be comforting 430 00:25:46,445 --> 00:25:49,031 and say, "Okay, I’m sorry." 431 00:25:49,081 --> 00:25:51,667 Um, and I chose the latter. 432 00:25:51,700 --> 00:25:55,787 Oh T, you made me come up here... 433 00:25:58,590 --> 00:26:03,378 T said, "I know you’re struggling, but if you 434 00:26:03,429 --> 00:26:08,434 aren’t struggling for you, would you struggle for me? 435 00:26:11,303 --> 00:26:12,721 And of, 436 00:26:12,771 --> 00:26:15,607 of course I would if I thought there were a real chance 437 00:26:15,641 --> 00:26:16,976 but there’s not. 438 00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:19,478 Uh oh. 439 00:26:23,282 --> 00:26:24,450 Thank you. 440 00:26:26,652 --> 00:26:30,289 It still feels kind of like ah, 441 00:26:30,322 --> 00:26:33,292 you give up when you don’t try everything out there 442 00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:35,327 but I still think that’s the 443 00:26:35,377 --> 00:26:38,664 the rational and, I think, the right thing to do to not 444 00:26:38,714 --> 00:26:41,217 not try and seek every option because 445 00:26:41,250 --> 00:26:44,053 95 percent she’s only going to gain 446 00:26:44,086 --> 00:26:48,507 ah, two or three months. That’s a lot of extra pain. 447 00:26:48,507 --> 00:26:51,727 Ah, and uh, 448 00:26:52,761 --> 00:26:56,348 and a lot of extra cost. 449 00:26:56,398 --> 00:27:01,103 This is not a good idea. Whose idea was this? 450 00:27:01,153 --> 00:27:04,356 I know it’s hard for them, but they’re great. 451 00:27:04,356 --> 00:27:08,110 Beautiful, beautiful! 452 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,164 I know they’ll be fine. I’ve writing them letters, so I’m thinking about... 453 00:27:13,866 --> 00:27:20,289 That’s, that’s the other wonderful thing about this Death with Dignity. 454 00:27:20,339 --> 00:27:25,628 It gives me a chance to think about how I want to leave things with them at the end. 455 00:27:31,049 --> 00:27:33,518 The, the images... 456 00:27:38,106 --> 00:27:39,891 Sorry. 457 00:27:45,898 --> 00:27:50,035 There are moments where she is just so ready to go. 458 00:27:50,068 --> 00:27:52,871 She doesn’t like being sick 459 00:27:52,905 --> 00:27:56,208 and then there are the days when she, you know, 460 00:28:00,212 --> 00:28:03,165 healthy and grateful to be alive. 461 00:28:04,716 --> 00:28:07,586 I’m not going to die with the fluid 462 00:28:07,586 --> 00:28:10,255 oozing out of my pores in my legs. 463 00:28:10,305 --> 00:28:13,225 I’m not going to weigh 200 pounds again. 464 00:28:13,258 --> 00:28:16,812 I’m not going to lose my hair, again. 465 00:28:16,845 --> 00:28:20,148 I am not going to be humiliated 466 00:28:20,232 --> 00:28:23,435 with losing control of my bodily functions again. 467 00:28:24,603 --> 00:28:27,656 This is, will be tidy and, 468 00:28:27,689 --> 00:28:30,025 while not easy for my family 469 00:28:30,075 --> 00:28:32,694 it’s a lot better than the alternatives. 470 00:28:36,248 --> 00:28:39,501 She says it’ll be easy, but I think it’ll be hard for us 471 00:28:39,534 --> 00:28:42,670 uh, when, when she does 472 00:28:42,704 --> 00:28:44,956 you know, take, 473 00:28:45,007 --> 00:28:47,376 take the drink and uh, 474 00:28:47,426 --> 00:28:50,930 final rest really um, 475 00:28:50,963 --> 00:28:52,515 but I plan to be there. 476 00:29:00,522 --> 00:29:03,608 Hello. My name is Odill, 477 00:29:03,642 --> 00:29:06,778 and I was wondering if you have any information like um, 478 00:29:06,812 --> 00:29:10,983 written information or anything like that. I’m considering it 479 00:29:10,983 --> 00:29:13,068 within um, the next few months. 480 00:29:14,152 --> 00:29:16,321 That’s it. Thanks. 481 00:29:19,708 --> 00:29:22,044 My name is Derek Humphry. 482 00:29:22,077 --> 00:29:24,079 I’m a journalist and author, 483 00:29:24,129 --> 00:29:28,834 President of the Euthanasia Research and Guidance Organization, 484 00:29:28,917 --> 00:29:33,422 founder of the Hemlock Society, thirty years ago. 485 00:29:33,472 --> 00:29:36,225 The Hemlock Society’s mission was, 486 00:29:36,258 --> 00:29:38,677 A, to help people 487 00:29:38,727 --> 00:29:40,896 with their problems of dying 488 00:29:40,929 --> 00:29:42,564 here and now, 489 00:29:42,597 --> 00:29:44,265 and secondly, 490 00:29:44,316 --> 00:29:46,185 uh, to change the law 491 00:29:46,184 --> 00:29:47,736 in the best way possible, 492 00:29:47,769 --> 00:29:50,522 democratically across America 493 00:29:50,572 --> 00:29:54,860 to allow the choice in dying. 494 00:29:54,910 --> 00:29:58,697 I became involved in the issue in 1975 495 00:29:58,747 --> 00:30:02,034 when my first wife was dying of cancer, 496 00:30:02,084 --> 00:30:05,037 and ah, I had no knowledge of 497 00:30:05,087 --> 00:30:08,040 euthanasia movement or right to die, or anything. 498 00:30:08,123 --> 00:30:10,292 In those days, it wasn’t a public issue 499 00:30:10,342 --> 00:30:13,712 you would be very unlikely to know anything about it. 500 00:30:13,762 --> 00:30:17,466 Last night an instructional video tape shown on television in Oregon 501 00:30:17,516 --> 00:30:20,469 sounds harmless until you consider the tape 502 00:30:20,519 --> 00:30:23,222 is a step by step guide to committing suicide. 503 00:30:23,221 --> 00:30:25,306 NBC’s Dan Lothian has the story. 504 00:30:31,730 --> 00:30:34,449 How to die, now on television. 505 00:30:34,483 --> 00:30:36,368 From mixing the lethal brew, 506 00:30:36,401 --> 00:30:38,954 to finding the right gas and bag. 507 00:30:38,987 --> 00:30:42,991 Then find a clear plastic bag, just big enough to go over the head. 508 00:30:43,041 --> 00:30:44,543 A step by step, 509 00:30:44,576 --> 00:30:46,912 do-it-yourself program from Derek Humphry, 510 00:30:46,962 --> 00:30:50,799 the author of the best seller’s suicide guide, Final Exit. 511 00:30:50,832 --> 00:30:55,086 This is my average daily mail. These are all 512 00:30:55,137 --> 00:30:58,007 uh, copies of Final Exit 513 00:30:58,056 --> 00:31:00,675 or The Good Euthanasia Guide. 514 00:31:00,726 --> 00:31:04,346 Compassion and Choices, which is a national organization 515 00:31:04,396 --> 00:31:07,933 took over the Hemlock Society a few years ago, 516 00:31:07,933 --> 00:31:10,736 and then there’s a very fine, little group 517 00:31:10,769 --> 00:31:13,438 Compassion and Choices of Oregon. 518 00:31:13,488 --> 00:31:15,323 The key to the Oregon law, 519 00:31:15,357 --> 00:31:19,278 and why it passed and why doctors have accepted this, 520 00:31:19,327 --> 00:31:23,698 is that the doctor does not actually kill the patient. 521 00:31:23,749 --> 00:31:25,985 The patient kills themself. 522 00:31:26,017 --> 00:31:27,785 The American Medical Association 523 00:31:27,786 --> 00:31:32,291 like nearly all medical associations throughout the world, ah, 524 00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:35,043 are against euthanasia 525 00:31:35,093 --> 00:31:38,380 ah, which is direct injection. 526 00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:41,800 The sort of thing that Dr. Kevorkian did that got him in prison 527 00:31:41,850 --> 00:31:45,771 for nine years. Direct injection into the vein. 528 00:31:45,804 --> 00:31:48,023 The Oregon law has been thoroughly tested 529 00:31:48,106 --> 00:31:53,061 and now its time to try to get it going in other states. 530 00:31:53,111 --> 00:31:57,899 The right to die movement recently tried to pass a law in Washington State 531 00:31:57,949 --> 00:32:00,952 which is similar to Oregon’s law. 532 00:32:00,986 --> 00:32:02,488 It was quite a contest. 533 00:32:52,037 --> 00:32:54,756 All these photographs, I look at and 534 00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:59,427 I can just see it, how much in love I was 535 00:32:59,461 --> 00:33:02,464 and how much I just adored him. 536 00:33:02,514 --> 00:33:04,266 I can see it on my face, 537 00:33:04,299 --> 00:33:06,518 and I can see it on his face, 538 00:33:06,551 --> 00:33:10,772 and I can feel it as if it were yesterday 539 00:33:10,805 --> 00:33:13,641 that what I felt when this picture was taken. 540 00:33:13,692 --> 00:33:17,896 I just thought I was the luckiest person in the world to have met him, 541 00:33:17,946 --> 00:33:20,482 and I was. I was. 542 00:33:22,817 --> 00:33:25,903 At the age of 55, in the year 2000, 543 00:33:25,904 --> 00:33:31,827 went to a doctor and found out that Randy had brain and spinal cord cancer. 544 00:33:31,877 --> 00:33:35,214 Which is a very, very grim diagnosis, 545 00:33:35,247 --> 00:33:39,134 and we knew that this was gonna be how he was going to die. 546 00:33:39,167 --> 00:33:42,003 And the treatment for it, it is very harsh. 547 00:33:42,087 --> 00:33:46,008 And creates a lot of side effects that can be even 548 00:33:46,057 --> 00:33:48,092 worse than dying. 549 00:33:48,093 --> 00:33:51,229 He had surgery that removed part of the tumor 550 00:33:51,263 --> 00:33:53,432 in June of 2000. 551 00:33:53,481 --> 00:33:56,818 Then he went through months of radiation treatment. 552 00:33:56,902 --> 00:33:59,521 He had three different kinds of chemotherapy 553 00:33:59,571 --> 00:34:03,191 and they took out his medulo, on one side of his head 554 00:34:03,241 --> 00:34:07,078 which controls balance. He was then stumbling and falling all the time, 555 00:34:07,112 --> 00:34:11,617 cut open his head. I’d come home from work and find him bleeding. 556 00:34:11,666 --> 00:34:16,955 Then in 2005, the cancer came back and Randy 557 00:34:17,005 --> 00:34:22,027 decided he didn’t want to continue treatment and he said, "No, I’m done." 558 00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:26,548 He told hospice that he wanted them to help him 559 00:34:26,598 --> 00:34:29,935 and give him some aid in dying when he felt the time was right, 560 00:34:29,968 --> 00:34:32,804 and they said, "We can’t help you. It’s illegal." 561 00:34:32,854 --> 00:34:35,306 So, he told them that he wanted to move to Oregon 562 00:34:35,307 --> 00:34:37,226 ’cause he knew it was legal there. 563 00:34:37,275 --> 00:34:40,645 They said, "You’re not going to live long enough to be able to establish residency." 564 00:34:40,695 --> 00:34:43,982 He said, "Then, if you can’t help me, I guess I don’t need you." 565 00:34:45,066 --> 00:34:47,118 After that, things got bad. 566 00:34:47,152 --> 00:34:49,988 He was in a hospital bed 24/7. 567 00:34:50,021 --> 00:34:52,574 He couldn’t control his arms and legs 568 00:34:52,624 --> 00:34:55,794 and he’d be just screaming in pain. 569 00:34:55,827 --> 00:34:58,663 Probably one of the worst is that he became incontinent, 570 00:34:58,713 --> 00:35:01,049 and he had to be in diapers 571 00:35:01,082 --> 00:35:03,334 and he hated that. 572 00:35:03,368 --> 00:35:07,505 He had double vision and then his eyes started popping out of his head 573 00:35:07,555 --> 00:35:11,175 from the tumors, so he couldn’t close his eyes. 574 00:35:12,227 --> 00:35:15,564 A year after this picture was taken 575 00:35:15,597 --> 00:35:20,102 and we were up at the hospital, and they were asking Randy for his 576 00:35:20,151 --> 00:35:23,354 Medicare card. 577 00:35:23,355 --> 00:35:26,358 The person at check-in assumed he was 80 years old. 578 00:35:26,358 --> 00:35:30,529 So, in one year of looking like this to the next year, 579 00:35:30,578 --> 00:35:32,747 they thought this was an 80 year old man. 580 00:35:33,698 --> 00:35:34,999 And he would, 581 00:35:35,033 --> 00:35:37,752 every day talk to me about how he felt, 582 00:35:37,786 --> 00:35:40,372 that he was half in his body and half out, 583 00:35:40,372 --> 00:35:43,759 and he’d say that he could feel himself leaving his body 584 00:35:43,792 --> 00:35:46,461 and then feel himself going back into his body 585 00:35:46,511 --> 00:35:48,880 and he said, "Nancy, I’m trying to figure out 586 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,716 how do I stay out of my body? 587 00:35:51,766 --> 00:35:57,438 How do I get out and stay permanently out? I don’t want to come back." 588 00:35:57,522 --> 00:36:01,976 There was nothing I could do, but to hold his hand. 589 00:36:02,027 --> 00:36:05,030 That was it. 590 00:36:05,063 --> 00:36:07,115 Six weeks before his death he said, 591 00:36:07,148 --> 00:36:10,201 "Nancy, this is going to get really painful. It’s going to get ugly. 592 00:36:10,235 --> 00:36:12,454 Promise me that you’ll help change the law." 593 00:36:12,487 --> 00:36:16,741 And I said, "Yes, I promise you that I will change this law," and I had no idea 594 00:36:16,791 --> 00:36:19,327 how I was going to do that, or how that would happen. 595 00:36:19,377 --> 00:36:22,747 I had no thought about when it would happen 596 00:36:22,747 --> 00:36:26,417 or how long it was going to take when I made that promise to Randy, it’s just 597 00:36:26,418 --> 00:36:30,806 when you love somebody you say, "Yes, I promise you I will." 598 00:36:30,839 --> 00:36:33,258 And you figure out the rest later. 599 00:36:37,762 --> 00:36:41,182 About six, seven months after he died, 600 00:36:41,232 --> 00:36:45,770 I spoke to some of the employees of Compassion and Choices and told them 601 00:36:45,820 --> 00:36:48,323 what Randy had wanted and I said, "You know, 602 00:36:48,356 --> 00:36:51,659 "I’m willing to do anything, anything. This is what my husband wanted 603 00:36:51,693 --> 00:36:53,828 and I will do anything." 604 00:36:53,862 --> 00:36:58,784 And then they contacted me and let me know they were going to be going down to 605 00:36:58,833 --> 00:37:00,752 our state capital in Olympia 606 00:37:00,785 --> 00:37:04,122 and they asked me if I’d be willing to go down and speak. 607 00:37:04,122 --> 00:37:06,207 And I said, "Absolutely," 608 00:37:06,257 --> 00:37:08,593 and that’s how I got started. 609 00:37:08,626 --> 00:37:10,628 I have not signed yet. 610 00:37:10,628 --> 00:37:13,264 I had asked the campaign 611 00:37:13,298 --> 00:37:16,601 if they’d be willing to let me be the last signature 612 00:37:16,634 --> 00:37:19,770 and they said, "Yes, absolutely," that I could do that. 613 00:37:39,824 --> 00:37:42,627 My name is Nancy Niedzielski. 614 00:37:42,660 --> 00:37:47,632 Two years ago, this month my husband, Randy, died from brain cancer. 615 00:37:47,665 --> 00:37:52,920 Please help me fulfill the final promise that I made to my husband 616 00:37:52,971 --> 00:37:55,757 by making Death with Dignity legal 617 00:37:55,807 --> 00:37:59,010 by voting yes on I-1000. 618 00:37:59,010 --> 00:38:00,311 Thank you. 619 00:38:07,986 --> 00:38:10,188 When I finally signed the ballot, 620 00:38:10,188 --> 00:38:12,857 I was so overwhelmed by the emotion of it 621 00:38:12,857 --> 00:38:16,194 that I was actually having a hard time signing my signature. 622 00:38:16,244 --> 00:38:21,499 One step forward. On to November. I was shaking. 623 00:38:21,533 --> 00:38:27,039 This is for you Randy. I love you most of all and then some. 624 00:39:37,275 --> 00:39:41,913 I think for a while I felt like everybody was waiting for me to die. 625 00:39:41,946 --> 00:39:44,031 I don’t feel like that anymore. 626 00:39:46,501 --> 00:39:48,787 I feel like myself again. 627 00:39:48,836 --> 00:39:51,288 For the first time, since this all started 628 00:39:52,173 --> 00:39:53,875 I feel quite perky. 629 00:39:55,293 --> 00:39:56,594 It’s kind of 630 00:39:56,628 --> 00:39:58,797 discombobulating in a way. It’s like, 631 00:39:58,846 --> 00:40:01,298 "I’m supposed to be really sick," 632 00:40:01,349 --> 00:40:04,435 but I feel great 633 00:40:04,469 --> 00:40:08,640 which is pretty cool, actually. I may have another Christmas with the kids. 634 00:40:10,725 --> 00:40:13,478 So, things seem 635 00:40:13,478 --> 00:40:16,765 really kind of almost back to normal. 636 00:40:18,283 --> 00:40:20,819 It’s a new normal. It’s a different normal. 637 00:40:33,514 --> 00:40:36,000 I wouldn’t set a date again. 638 00:40:36,050 --> 00:40:39,303 When you’re first diagnosed you want to have some certainty and 639 00:40:39,337 --> 00:40:41,840 and setting a date gives you that certainty, 640 00:40:43,141 --> 00:40:45,343 but it’s a false kind of certainty. 641 00:40:47,011 --> 00:40:49,764 I was supposed to have six months. 642 00:40:49,814 --> 00:40:51,733 Death with Dignity luckily doesn’t 643 00:40:51,766 --> 00:40:55,737 enforce that because I just blew through my six months 644 00:40:55,770 --> 00:40:59,357 and should anything dramatic happen, I’m prepared. 645 00:40:59,407 --> 00:41:02,076 But in the meantime, I can just forget about it. 646 00:41:03,695 --> 00:41:06,031 It’s been really great for Stan and me, 647 00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:09,500 ’cause we’ve gotten a summer vacation we totally didn’t expect, 648 00:41:09,534 --> 00:41:13,788 it’s been time that we are grateful for. 649 00:41:13,838 --> 00:41:16,874 So it’s been a great summer. It’s been a golden summer. 650 00:41:19,594 --> 00:41:23,381 And you can’t help having a little 651 00:41:23,431 --> 00:41:28,052 flicker of, "Well, maybe I won’t die. 652 00:41:29,303 --> 00:41:32,606 Maybe I could live another twenty years," 653 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,393 but what I try and do is transmute that into, 654 00:41:35,443 --> 00:41:37,562 "Wow, this is a great day." 655 00:41:41,616 --> 00:41:43,201 That awareness 656 00:41:43,234 --> 00:41:45,820 that every day I get to make a meal, 657 00:41:45,870 --> 00:41:47,972 that I get to 658 00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:51,209 kiss my husband, that I get to talk to my children 659 00:41:51,242 --> 00:41:52,910 one more day. 660 00:41:59,967 --> 00:42:01,302 That’s great. 661 00:42:05,423 --> 00:42:07,258 How are you doing? 662 00:42:07,258 --> 00:42:10,595 I feel really good. So that’s good. Good. 663 00:42:10,595 --> 00:42:12,931 So yesterday we had breakfast together, with, 664 00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:14,565 Sunday with the kids, and 665 00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:16,985 I could tell Cody was getting a little bit tired. 666 00:42:17,018 --> 00:42:19,988 I said, "Well, maybe we should take a little break." She said, 667 00:42:20,021 --> 00:42:23,658 "No, we’re going for a walk," and we went up to the top of the hill. 668 00:42:23,691 --> 00:42:27,161 We touched the tree and we marched back down again. Thank you very much. 669 00:42:27,195 --> 00:42:28,663 All righty then. 670 00:42:28,696 --> 00:42:32,166 Shh, shh! People have said, by the way, that 671 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,120 she’s more beautiful than ever. It’s only because I’m thin. 672 00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:38,005 That’s the only reason, which is kind of upsetting because 673 00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:39,757 that’s the way our society works. 674 00:42:39,791 --> 00:42:42,794 I was just going to say this is not a good message. 675 00:42:42,844 --> 00:42:46,214 It’s not. Jill and I have had several conversations about this because, 676 00:42:46,264 --> 00:42:49,434 "Oh, you look great." People you haven’t seen before, 677 00:42:49,467 --> 00:42:52,353 "Yeah, been on the cancer diet, thanks very much." 678 00:42:52,386 --> 00:42:54,889 I mean I just don’t understand why I’m feeling good. 679 00:42:54,939 --> 00:42:57,475 Um, and I would like to know how much longer. 680 00:43:00,311 --> 00:43:03,114 And I know nobody knows that. 681 00:43:03,147 --> 00:43:05,650 The honest truth is I’d just be guessing. 682 00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:09,988 You’re not showing signs or I’m not hearing from you signs of liver 683 00:43:09,987 --> 00:43:11,405 function problems. 684 00:43:11,456 --> 00:43:13,291 Meaning, I’m not seeing 685 00:43:13,324 --> 00:43:17,995 you’re bleeding really easily or bruising copiously, 686 00:43:18,045 --> 00:43:20,631 You’re not getting fluid build-up in your belly. 687 00:43:20,665 --> 00:43:23,835 Right. Well, I am getting a little bloating. Um, Uh-huh. 688 00:43:23,885 --> 00:43:26,504 it does seem like that is, 689 00:43:26,554 --> 00:43:29,674 is sticking out more. The pooch is sticking out more? 690 00:43:29,674 --> 00:43:30,925 Yeah. 691 00:43:30,975 --> 00:43:32,894 What I’m kind of talking about would be fluid 692 00:43:32,927 --> 00:43:35,346 where you really almost look kinda pregnant. 693 00:43:35,396 --> 00:43:37,315 Oh. It’s like a really significant 694 00:43:37,348 --> 00:43:40,484 fluid buildup. Have you ever seen anyone with liver failure or 695 00:43:40,518 --> 00:43:44,105 who gets that kind of bloat? I’ve read about it, I have not seen it. 696 00:43:44,155 --> 00:43:45,657 It’s not subtle. 697 00:43:45,690 --> 00:43:48,109 In terms of time, that’s the hard part. 698 00:43:48,159 --> 00:43:50,161 I don’t know when 699 00:43:50,194 --> 00:43:52,863 the tumors are going to obstruct enough bile ducts 700 00:43:52,914 --> 00:43:56,785 to give you a pool of bile and put it at risk for getting infected. 701 00:43:56,834 --> 00:44:00,087 It could be something that’s very quick. It could be that you just 702 00:44:00,121 --> 00:44:02,206 suddenly, two months from now say, 703 00:44:02,256 --> 00:44:04,925 "You know, I’m really weaker than I was a month ago," 704 00:44:04,959 --> 00:44:08,045 and then we’ll kind of know that that’s the beginning. 705 00:44:12,266 --> 00:44:13,851 But I don’t know... 706 00:44:13,885 --> 00:44:15,353 I’d like to 707 00:44:15,386 --> 00:44:18,022 monkey with your drain to see if I could get kind of a feel 708 00:44:18,055 --> 00:44:19,473 Oh, okay. ... for flushing it. 709 00:44:19,524 --> 00:44:23,194 Um, that might give me a little bit of information. 710 00:44:25,813 --> 00:44:29,066 I just wanted to kind of get a feel for this. Mmm-hmm. 711 00:44:29,066 --> 00:44:31,535 Let me know if I give you the horrible chills. 712 00:44:33,070 --> 00:44:35,372 Oh, it feels good going in, 713 00:44:37,575 --> 00:44:40,411 and it’s not too chunky coming back, so that’s good. 714 00:44:41,712 --> 00:44:44,915 Nice olive oil color. Oh, there’s a few. 715 00:44:46,801 --> 00:44:49,754 There’s a little chunks, but not a ton. 716 00:44:49,804 --> 00:44:51,589 Now it looks like a good, 717 00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:54,509 a good first pressing, wasn’t that your line? 718 00:44:56,260 --> 00:44:58,095 Now okay that’s good. 719 00:44:58,145 --> 00:45:02,099 So, I’m not seeing a whole bunch of chunks which would suggest that your, 720 00:45:02,099 --> 00:45:06,103 your drain is becoming obstructed. 721 00:45:06,153 --> 00:45:08,272 What is that? This is bile. 722 00:45:08,322 --> 00:45:12,610 I just put saline in and its bile, and then probably some of that solid 723 00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:18,416 particulate matter is probably some bacteria and possibly some tumor, 724 00:45:18,449 --> 00:45:21,619 hard to say. Yeah, so 725 00:45:21,669 --> 00:45:25,540 that’s what it looks like. Really? The tumor is that... 726 00:45:25,590 --> 00:45:29,043 It could be, I can’t tell without a microscope. ...goopy? 727 00:45:29,093 --> 00:45:31,012 But yeah, it could be, could be. 728 00:45:31,045 --> 00:45:35,550 I’ve tried on some occasions to think of what it would be like in mom’s shoes 729 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,470 which is shockingly hard. 730 00:45:38,552 --> 00:45:41,388 Being told you’ll die in just a few months 731 00:45:41,439 --> 00:45:44,943 without having an option of controlling that. 732 00:45:44,976 --> 00:45:48,530 I think everybody in my family is a control freak on some level 733 00:45:48,613 --> 00:45:52,233 and I think all of us would like to have some options of how we’d 734 00:45:52,283 --> 00:45:55,069 like to take control of our life at the end. 735 00:45:55,152 --> 00:45:58,489 Poor Jilly, having to go back to DC. 736 00:45:58,539 --> 00:46:02,126 You know T, when you come over on Saturday’s for breakfast, 737 00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:05,996 we can make a family video. We could have a video chat 738 00:46:05,997 --> 00:46:07,916 Jilly, on Saturday mornings. 739 00:46:07,965 --> 00:46:10,801 I go through periods where I’m very calm with things 740 00:46:10,835 --> 00:46:13,721 and then I go through periods where it’s extremely emotional. 741 00:46:13,754 --> 00:46:16,674 Usually those periods are when I’m thinking about the future, 742 00:46:16,674 --> 00:46:20,228 and the things where I’d want mom to be there, and she’s not going to be. 743 00:46:20,261 --> 00:46:23,564 One of my highlights from my last trip was actually her going through 744 00:46:23,597 --> 00:46:26,016 her jewelry and her scarves with me. 745 00:46:26,067 --> 00:46:28,570 And just, I mean, it was actually giving them away. 746 00:46:28,602 --> 00:46:32,523 This was, like, her giving away her objects to me 747 00:46:32,573 --> 00:46:38,112 um, which...there was a moment where I thought about 748 00:46:38,162 --> 00:46:40,081 she had left the room to go 749 00:46:40,114 --> 00:46:44,118 find other things, and I was just standing there folding her scarves, and I thought, 750 00:46:44,168 --> 00:46:47,705 "This would be so different if mom was already gone." 751 00:46:47,755 --> 00:46:52,343 You know the act of standing here and like, folding up her scarves, would be 752 00:46:54,045 --> 00:46:57,715 tragic, instead of being something that we got to share. 753 00:46:57,765 --> 00:47:01,052 U.S. Air, this is it. Yeah. 754 00:47:02,386 --> 00:47:06,557 I think the kids just aren’t as worried because 755 00:47:06,557 --> 00:47:09,226 I’m lucky not to be feeling sick. 756 00:47:09,276 --> 00:47:12,362 But who knows how it’s going to feel in a few months. 757 00:47:12,396 --> 00:47:15,149 In the meantime we’ll all cope, it’ll be fine. 758 00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:18,819 But for right now, they’re able to go to their work 759 00:47:18,869 --> 00:47:21,155 and take vacation and 760 00:47:21,205 --> 00:47:23,958 think about the things they should be thinking about 761 00:47:23,991 --> 00:47:26,627 instead of waiting for me to die. 762 00:47:27,912 --> 00:47:30,965 I’ve done a good job. They’re flying off. 763 00:47:30,998 --> 00:47:34,218 I don’t need to be calling them back all the time. 764 00:47:47,064 --> 00:47:49,066 Thanks, sweetie. 765 00:48:00,861 --> 00:48:05,499 From KUOW 94.9 Seattle. The personal and ethical debate over initiative 1000, 766 00:48:05,533 --> 00:48:09,454 this is Weekday. An anonymous online survey of physicians showed 767 00:48:09,453 --> 00:48:12,456 fifty percent in favor, 42 percent against. 768 00:48:12,506 --> 00:48:16,260 This whole country has a thing about death. They’re scared of it. 769 00:48:16,293 --> 00:48:19,346 They don’t even want to talk about it. When I look at 770 00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:22,266 one of the most important aspects of good end of life care, 771 00:48:22,299 --> 00:48:27,304 I honestly cannot say that um, having a Death with Dignity Act is a crucial part. 772 00:48:27,354 --> 00:48:30,641 My father was dead even though he was alive, 773 00:48:30,691 --> 00:48:33,310 and he had that right to do what he did 774 00:48:33,310 --> 00:48:36,063 and I support this initiative. I’ve gotten... 775 00:48:36,113 --> 00:48:39,650 I didn’t know what I was getting into uhm... 776 00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:41,569 It was scary. It was tough. 777 00:48:41,619 --> 00:48:45,406 I wasn’t used to being in front of the press or anything like that. 778 00:48:45,489 --> 00:48:47,157 I’ve never done that before, 779 00:48:47,208 --> 00:48:49,660 but I didn’t care how hard it was going to be. 780 00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:50,961 I had a mission. 781 00:48:50,995 --> 00:48:53,331 Would you like some information on I-1000? 782 00:48:53,330 --> 00:48:55,833 Would you like some information on I-1000? 783 00:48:55,883 --> 00:48:58,219 Would you like some information on I-1000? 784 00:49:00,304 --> 00:49:03,507 No. but I’d love to talk to you about that possibility. 785 00:49:04,975 --> 00:49:06,760 I would love for you... 786 00:49:06,811 --> 00:49:10,064 I would love for you to talk to me. You don’t have five minutes? 787 00:49:10,097 --> 00:49:13,317 Officially the Washington State Medical Association and the 788 00:49:13,350 --> 00:49:16,236 State’s Hospice and Palliative Care Organization 789 00:49:16,270 --> 00:49:19,406 are opposed to legalizing physician aid in dying. 790 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,693 This is a society sanctioned death 791 00:49:22,743 --> 00:49:25,412 and I just think a society has to be asked, 792 00:49:25,446 --> 00:49:28,199 "Is this what we really, really want?" 793 00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:30,785 This is separation of church and state 794 00:49:30,835 --> 00:49:36,040 and I am very much against religion telling me what to do. 795 00:49:36,090 --> 00:49:39,460 My husband was raised a Catholic, as I was, 796 00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:43,714 but he did not feel that any government or any religious leader 797 00:49:43,714 --> 00:49:48,185 had the right to tell him how long he had to suffer. 798 00:49:48,219 --> 00:49:51,806 Okay, so we’re sanctioning the medical community to "off" people. 799 00:49:51,856 --> 00:49:55,860 Where could that lead? What we saw were abortion led 800 00:49:55,893 --> 00:49:59,280 so then we further the notion that we can decide 801 00:49:59,313 --> 00:50:02,483 who is fit to live and who is not. 802 00:50:02,533 --> 00:50:06,620 Taking a look at initiative I-1000 with Nancy Niedzielski, Dr. Rheba de Tornay 803 00:50:06,654 --> 00:50:08,072 and Dr. James Gordon. 804 00:50:08,155 --> 00:50:11,241 Dr. de Tornay, what would initiative 1000 do? 805 00:50:11,292 --> 00:50:16,247 One of the things that bothers me is that it’s somewhat of a slippery slope 806 00:50:16,247 --> 00:50:19,133 and I think we health professionals 807 00:50:19,166 --> 00:50:22,302 can alleviate a great deal of suffering today. 808 00:50:22,336 --> 00:50:26,173 But there are diseases that exist where you cannot control 809 00:50:26,223 --> 00:50:31,228 the pain and my husband had one of those. And that’s why this should be an option. 810 00:50:31,262 --> 00:50:34,849 Now I’m off to an interview with Canada. 811 00:50:34,899 --> 00:50:37,935 Evidentially this is a hot topic in Canada. 812 00:50:37,985 --> 00:50:41,489 Death with Dignity, the other side calls it Assisted Suicide. 813 00:50:41,522 --> 00:50:43,441 Is this assisted suicide? 814 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,276 No. To me it’s very offensive to call it suicide. 815 00:50:46,327 --> 00:50:49,697 Suicide is something someone does who is otherwise 816 00:50:49,747 --> 00:50:52,500 physically healthy and has their life ahead of them, 817 00:50:52,533 --> 00:50:56,120 but are clinically depressed and don’t want to live. 818 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,874 That is one of our fears, is that someone realizes 819 00:50:59,924 --> 00:51:05,129 "Well, dad’s costing seventy five hundred dollars a month at a long term care facility 820 00:51:05,129 --> 00:51:08,766 and that’s eating up the inheritance real quickly." 821 00:51:08,799 --> 00:51:10,684 Hi David. My name is Nancy. 822 00:51:10,718 --> 00:51:13,938 I’m a volunteer on the Yes 1000 Death with Dignity Campaign. 823 00:51:13,971 --> 00:51:16,974 Have you decided if you’ll support initiative 1000? 824 00:51:17,024 --> 00:51:20,611 You’re not? Can I ask you why? 825 00:51:20,644 --> 00:51:24,982 Well it’s not an easy way out, actually. It’s a very difficult way out. 826 00:51:24,982 --> 00:51:26,984 I respect that that’s what your beliefs say 827 00:51:26,984 --> 00:51:29,487 but unfortunately, by not passing this 828 00:51:29,486 --> 00:51:32,322 it’s saying that your beliefs have to dictate to everybody else 829 00:51:32,323 --> 00:51:35,042 who doesn’t have the same belief. 830 00:51:35,075 --> 00:51:38,495 I did. My husband suffered horribly. 831 00:51:38,545 --> 00:51:41,248 Okay thank you. 832 00:51:41,298 --> 00:51:43,167 Absolutely not. 833 00:51:43,217 --> 00:51:46,837 This is a debate about how we finance healthcare and resources 834 00:51:46,887 --> 00:51:50,808 and when you’re talking about someone who is living with a chronic disease, 835 00:51:50,841 --> 00:51:52,726 when you talk about poor people 836 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,314 and when you offer someone death versus living, 837 00:51:56,347 --> 00:51:59,433 I think we all need to take notice. 838 00:52:11,195 --> 00:52:15,366 My name is Randy Stroup. I’m 54 years old. 839 00:52:15,366 --> 00:52:19,921 I have two boys. I got four granddaughters and one grandson, 840 00:52:21,455 --> 00:52:25,092 and my mother, I was living here taking care of her 841 00:52:25,125 --> 00:52:28,595 but now she’s been put in an assisted living home. 842 00:52:29,630 --> 00:52:31,298 Next thing I know, 843 00:52:31,348 --> 00:52:36,970 I was diagnosed with prostate cancer in December 19, 2006. 844 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,227 A year ago Christmas, they gave me two to four months to live. 845 00:52:43,227 --> 00:52:47,148 So as far as I know, prognosis is today or tomorrow. 846 00:52:48,565 --> 00:52:52,619 After the first chemotherapy failed, 847 00:52:52,653 --> 00:52:57,575 my doctor decided he wanted to try a stronger chemotherapy. 848 00:52:58,625 --> 00:53:00,577 Well, the Oregon Health Plan decided 849 00:53:00,577 --> 00:53:04,631 as long as it didn’t increase my life by five years, 850 00:53:05,716 --> 00:53:08,052 then they didn’t want to pay for it. 851 00:53:10,087 --> 00:53:12,806 Mid September, I received a 852 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,559 letter from the Oregon Health Plan. 853 00:53:15,592 --> 00:53:19,429 It said in the letter they would do anything for comfort and palliative care 854 00:53:20,647 --> 00:53:24,651 including a doctor assisted suicide. 855 00:53:29,406 --> 00:53:31,275 Dear Randy Stroup, 856 00:53:31,358 --> 00:53:34,111 Dr. Michael Monticelli submitted a request for 857 00:53:34,111 --> 00:53:37,281 authorization dated March 26th 858 00:53:37,281 --> 00:53:39,116 2008 859 00:53:39,116 --> 00:53:40,534 for letting 860 00:53:40,584 --> 00:53:44,288 Oregon Health Plan to pay for cancer treatment for you. 861 00:53:44,338 --> 00:53:48,008 Unfortunately, we are unable to approve that request. 862 00:53:48,041 --> 00:53:50,927 Your condition at this stage meets criteria 863 00:53:50,961 --> 00:53:53,764 for comfort and palliative care. 864 00:53:53,797 --> 00:53:56,800 Comfort and palliative care may include 865 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,303 physician aid-in-dying 866 00:53:59,353 --> 00:54:01,772 under Oregon Death with Dignity. 867 00:54:04,057 --> 00:54:05,525 Yeah, they don’t care. 868 00:54:07,060 --> 00:54:09,229 It still just appalls me. 869 00:54:10,814 --> 00:54:13,283 No man has got the right 870 00:54:13,317 --> 00:54:17,288 to offer money to have somebody else killed. 871 00:54:18,872 --> 00:54:21,324 I’m a man of simple methods 872 00:54:21,375 --> 00:54:23,994 and the person who wrote this letter needs to be 873 00:54:23,994 --> 00:54:26,380 put in prison for the rest of his life. 874 00:54:29,466 --> 00:54:31,885 I do prison time for a lot less than this. 875 00:54:37,808 --> 00:54:40,344 To think that they could even start to put a 876 00:54:40,394 --> 00:54:42,346 price tag on my life, 877 00:54:42,396 --> 00:54:45,566 or send me a letter saying they’d pay to kill me, 878 00:54:45,599 --> 00:54:48,068 but they won’t, won’t pay to help me. 879 00:54:59,062 --> 00:55:02,365 Dignity means to me, that you can hold your head up high, 880 00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:06,786 and I don’t see how anybody can take their life 881 00:55:06,837 --> 00:55:09,256 and hold their head up high while doing it. 882 00:55:16,763 --> 00:55:19,099 This is the Ray Carnay Report. 883 00:55:20,717 --> 00:55:23,853 An exclusive KOZY TV presentation on people, 884 00:55:23,887 --> 00:55:26,273 events and consumer information. 885 00:55:26,306 --> 00:55:28,558 Written and produced by Ray Carnay. 886 00:55:32,196 --> 00:55:35,282 Not, not in all my years in 887 00:55:35,315 --> 00:55:38,819 show business, in radio, in television 888 00:55:38,869 --> 00:55:43,457 have I talked to two more interesting people than I have on my show today. 889 00:55:43,490 --> 00:55:45,625 Thank you. You’re both lovely. 890 00:55:45,659 --> 00:55:49,479 And what, oh what a wealth of information your backgrounds for a television audience 891 00:55:49,513 --> 00:55:52,216 and I know they’re going to be just absolutely intrigued 892 00:55:52,249 --> 00:55:56,086 and hanging on to every word that you have to say, and I’ve got a lot to ask you. 893 00:55:56,086 --> 00:55:59,590 All right good. Great. We’re ready. A whole bunch. 894 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,228 I want my audience first to ah... Play. 895 00:56:09,983 --> 00:56:12,068 I thank God for that, 896 00:56:12,102 --> 00:56:16,990 that voice, and wanting to take that away from me in surgery. 897 00:56:17,024 --> 00:56:20,945 I’m gonna die with being able to say "good-bye." 898 00:56:25,449 --> 00:56:29,503 When they looked at my, 899 00:56:29,586 --> 00:56:34,458 my cancer x-rays or my CAT scans or the MRIs, 900 00:56:34,508 --> 00:56:36,427 and they told me that, ah, 901 00:56:38,011 --> 00:56:40,931 there’s nothing that can be done. I’ve had the cancer there before. 902 00:56:40,964 --> 00:56:43,800 I’ve gone twenty years and it came back, 903 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,802 and the only way now is to 904 00:56:45,802 --> 00:56:49,806 remove my voice box, take that out and 905 00:56:49,856 --> 00:56:54,644 take out the thing that’s been my life. My whole life has been my voice. 906 00:56:54,645 --> 00:56:58,482 That’s been my profession, and I thank God for it. 907 00:57:01,818 --> 00:57:05,655 I’m sure I have a much different outlook than many people have on, 908 00:57:06,823 --> 00:57:10,877 on the finality of life. 909 00:57:10,911 --> 00:57:16,417 I will have a real presence, almost a live presence, at my own funeral. 910 00:57:16,466 --> 00:57:20,503 I know of no better way to say goodbye 911 00:57:20,504 --> 00:57:24,258 than my little eulogy. 912 00:57:25,976 --> 00:57:27,895 Here we are, okay. 913 00:57:29,479 --> 00:57:30,513 Hi. 914 00:57:30,514 --> 00:57:33,350 How are you? Fine, thank you. 915 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,018 I’m Ray. Ray, I’m Thaddeus. 916 00:57:35,068 --> 00:57:37,604 Thaddeus, nice to see you. 917 00:57:48,699 --> 00:57:49,783 Go in here? 918 00:57:49,833 --> 00:57:51,668 Yeah. Okay. 919 00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:59,543 Actually, if I could get you to scoot forward about... Sure. 920 00:57:59,543 --> 00:58:02,880 about to right here, yeah sitting right close. 921 00:58:03,847 --> 00:58:06,099 Like so? That is great. 922 00:58:07,017 --> 00:58:08,802 Okay. Okay. 923 00:58:08,852 --> 00:58:12,439 Well, let’s go ahead and, uh, get you some headphones 924 00:58:13,557 --> 00:58:16,226 and I’ll get a mix sent to you 925 00:58:16,276 --> 00:58:19,029 as soon as I can. Go ahead and feel free to warm up and 926 00:58:19,062 --> 00:58:20,897 just run over it a couple of times. 927 00:58:20,897 --> 00:58:23,116 I’m, ah, I’m always ready. 928 00:58:23,150 --> 00:58:26,487 I’m going to need to see... Oh, you’re going to need...oh, I see. 929 00:58:26,536 --> 00:58:29,072 I’ll give you some headphones. Set the, okay... 930 00:58:30,824 --> 00:58:32,409 Okay, so, here we are. 931 00:58:34,411 --> 00:58:37,247 Dear family and friends, 932 00:58:37,297 --> 00:58:40,667 welcome to this joyous occasion. 933 00:58:40,751 --> 00:58:45,889 Joyous because I, I strongly believe that this is the beginning of another life 934 00:58:45,922 --> 00:58:50,593 with a loving God as my constant and eternal companion. 935 00:58:50,677 --> 00:58:54,898 I am so proud that Judaica and Christian principals are here to make this a 936 00:58:54,931 --> 00:58:58,351 memorable and a beautiful occasion. 937 00:58:58,402 --> 00:59:03,190 Pastor Jim and Rabi Maurice and Major Joe are dear friends. 938 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:08,278 I thank them, all of whom have made this service possible. 939 00:59:08,278 --> 00:59:11,915 Hopefully my brother, Harold, and my sons Robert, Richard and Jeff 940 00:59:11,948 --> 00:59:14,033 along with my daughter, Darla, 941 00:59:14,084 --> 00:59:16,203 were able to attend this final visit. 942 00:59:17,454 --> 00:59:20,958 Other daughters Cindy, Carol and Shelly 943 00:59:20,957 --> 00:59:24,127 may not even be aware of my demise. 944 00:59:24,177 --> 00:59:29,182 I do realize that this entire affair might be considered by some as, 945 00:59:29,216 --> 00:59:31,602 well, as unusual. 946 00:59:31,635 --> 00:59:36,807 But for me it’s an opportunity to actually voice my goodbyes and gratitude 947 00:59:36,857 --> 00:59:41,311 for the love and friendship that is prevalent within these holy walls. 948 00:59:41,361 --> 00:59:44,648 My father, an orthodox Jew, once said to me, 949 00:59:44,648 --> 00:59:49,453 "If all the world lived by the principals taught by Moses and Jesus 950 00:59:49,486 --> 00:59:52,155 we’d have a perfect world." 951 00:59:52,205 --> 00:59:55,158 How very true were those words of wisdom. 952 00:59:56,243 --> 00:59:59,329 Go in peace. Go with God. 953 01:00:00,580 --> 01:00:02,632 Bless you for your attendance. 954 01:00:05,001 --> 01:00:07,587 Can we play back that last part? "If all the world 955 01:00:07,637 --> 01:00:10,173 lived by the principals taught by Moses and Jesus 956 01:00:10,223 --> 01:00:12,425 we’d have a perfect world." 957 01:00:12,476 --> 01:00:14,011 What a hell of a voice. 958 01:00:15,145 --> 01:00:17,898 Nah. No, that’s great. 959 01:00:25,572 --> 01:00:28,442 Yeah that’s great. That’s exactly what I wanted. 960 01:00:36,366 --> 01:00:40,203 You have a great voice. Well, thank you. Thank you very much. 961 01:01:00,857 --> 01:01:04,394 What have you been doing since the last time I talked to you? 962 01:01:04,444 --> 01:01:08,898 I’ve been feeling really good, and I’ve been feeling really guilty about it. 963 01:01:08,899 --> 01:01:10,951 I just feel like, if you’re handed a 964 01:01:10,984 --> 01:01:13,737 diagnosis like that, there are certain expectations 965 01:01:13,737 --> 01:01:15,906 about how you should behave and 966 01:01:15,906 --> 01:01:18,375 um, what’s going to happen next. 967 01:01:18,408 --> 01:01:19,993 That’s a hard thing to 968 01:01:20,043 --> 01:01:22,379 anticipate. Its a hard thing to live with 969 01:01:22,412 --> 01:01:26,049 and not you know, feeling like, "Well, when will I know? When will I know?" 970 01:01:26,082 --> 01:01:29,085 And I feel like I want to conform to the expectations 971 01:01:29,085 --> 01:01:31,921 of someone with a terminal illness. 972 01:01:31,922 --> 01:01:34,758 But it’s funny, I gave away all of my jewelry 973 01:01:34,808 --> 01:01:38,612 and then, I bought some more. 974 01:01:38,645 --> 01:01:41,431 That’s so great. Because I thought 975 01:01:41,431 --> 01:01:43,183 maybe that was a bit premature. 976 01:01:43,233 --> 01:01:45,602 But I have had this checklist 977 01:01:45,652 --> 01:01:49,439 and it’s nearly done, and I’m sort of dragging my feet on the last 978 01:01:49,489 --> 01:01:51,441 few things ’cause I think, 979 01:01:51,441 --> 01:01:54,194 "Well, if I have another several months, 980 01:01:54,244 --> 01:01:56,329 then what am I going to do?" Yeah. 981 01:01:56,413 --> 01:01:59,666 I’m ready 982 01:01:59,699 --> 01:02:03,036 to start to decline 983 01:02:03,086 --> 01:02:05,338 and I’m not declining. What’s the matter here? 984 01:02:05,372 --> 01:02:08,342 And you said something profound when we talked on the phone, 985 01:02:08,375 --> 01:02:12,880 "You have to decide what quality of life is good." Is it, 986 01:02:12,929 --> 01:02:16,716 Is it just being able to get up and get dressed and take a walk? 987 01:02:16,766 --> 01:02:19,102 Or is it not having pain? 988 01:02:19,135 --> 01:02:22,138 I’m coming to think maybe it’s 989 01:02:22,138 --> 01:02:26,776 not being able to take care of myself and not worrying my family. 990 01:02:26,810 --> 01:02:29,479 And I feel like I want to maw it all 991 01:02:29,529 --> 01:02:32,315 for my children a kind of, um, 992 01:02:33,700 --> 01:02:35,652 grace and acceptance 993 01:02:39,239 --> 01:02:42,409 because I’m really scared of being a coward at the end. 994 01:02:47,163 --> 01:02:52,585 Well, we call it Death With Dignity, not death from cowardice 995 01:02:52,636 --> 01:02:56,056 And do you think its cowardice to, 996 01:02:56,089 --> 01:02:58,508 to not want to suffer? 997 01:02:58,508 --> 01:03:03,096 That’s a message that our society gives over and over again. 998 01:03:03,146 --> 01:03:06,850 That only the, if you’re, the truly courageous 999 01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:10,187 are the ones that are willing to suffer the most. 1000 01:03:10,186 --> 01:03:11,821 Yeah, you’re right. 1001 01:03:11,855 --> 01:03:16,860 It’s an absolutely, totally, erroneous 1002 01:03:16,860 --> 01:03:19,830 and completely flawed philosophy and, 1003 01:03:19,863 --> 01:03:25,085 and ah, and logic. There’s no logic to that. 1004 01:03:25,168 --> 01:03:28,588 It, you’re right and I don’t want to put my children through that. 1005 01:03:28,621 --> 01:03:32,625 It’s a very human thing to die. We’re all going to die. 1006 01:03:32,676 --> 01:03:33,710 Yeah. 1007 01:03:33,710 --> 01:03:36,046 And I’m just lucky to know that 1008 01:03:36,096 --> 01:03:38,181 more about how and when I’ll die 1009 01:03:38,214 --> 01:03:41,768 and have more control about that than most people do. 1010 01:03:41,801 --> 01:03:43,136 Right. 1011 01:03:49,893 --> 01:03:52,396 You gonna go up the old way 1012 01:03:52,445 --> 01:03:55,315 and drop down? Oh, you want to go up that way? Sure. 1013 01:03:57,617 --> 01:04:00,537 I was thinking this will be my first time back at OHSU 1014 01:04:00,570 --> 01:04:04,240 since I left for the surgery. 1015 01:04:04,324 --> 01:04:07,744 I never did turn in my ID tag. I should have brought it with me. 1016 01:04:10,380 --> 01:04:13,617 Remember when I used to walk this? 1017 01:04:13,650 --> 01:04:15,836 That was a long time ago. 1018 01:04:19,005 --> 01:04:21,975 We’ve had a lot of good times up here. 1019 01:04:32,152 --> 01:04:35,355 See, the steps are right there. 1020 01:04:35,405 --> 01:04:37,524 Hi Martina! 1021 01:04:37,574 --> 01:04:40,444 How are you? Ooh! 1022 01:04:40,443 --> 01:04:41,945 From your garden? Really? 1023 01:04:41,945 --> 01:04:43,830 The first ones that have just opened. 1024 01:04:43,863 --> 01:04:49,619 I feel like there should be a ceremony. I should be getting... I do. 1025 01:04:51,955 --> 01:04:54,424 Hi! How are you? 1026 01:05:00,764 --> 01:05:03,800 Good to see you. I have a present for you 1027 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,635 for old time’s sake. 1028 01:05:05,685 --> 01:05:07,554 Oh, thank you! 1029 01:05:07,604 --> 01:05:11,641 It’s not the season, but it has sentimental value. I brought some to share. 1030 01:05:11,691 --> 01:05:13,610 Hi, how are you? 1031 01:05:13,643 --> 01:05:14,894 Frank... 1032 01:05:14,944 --> 01:05:16,446 There she is... 1033 01:05:16,479 --> 01:05:19,365 Can I just give Frank a hug, really quick? 1034 01:05:19,399 --> 01:05:23,703 Nice to see you. Oh, thank you. 1035 01:05:23,736 --> 01:05:29,458 Yeah, we all go back twenty years. Twenty years, can you believe it? 1036 01:05:30,994 --> 01:05:32,462 These are the stairs to the pool, 1037 01:05:32,495 --> 01:05:35,164 is that what we’re looking for? Yes. Yes, it is. 1038 01:05:35,165 --> 01:05:39,720 This is an important... Oh... It’s hot in here. 1039 01:05:43,306 --> 01:05:47,093 The reason we’re here is to have a belated celebration 1040 01:05:47,143 --> 01:05:52,982 and recognition of the role that Cody played in, ah, saving the pool. 1041 01:05:53,016 --> 01:05:58,522 And I want to present it to you Cody, because this is in recognition. 1042 01:05:58,521 --> 01:06:01,190 Oh! 1043 01:06:01,241 --> 01:06:04,995 And what it says is, "Our caps off to Cody Curtis. 1044 01:06:05,028 --> 01:06:08,582 Dedicated OHSU employee and swimmer." Thank you. 1045 01:06:08,615 --> 01:06:10,617 Cody successfully saved the pool 1046 01:06:10,667 --> 01:06:14,371 from being closed indefinitely in December of 2006. 1047 01:06:14,370 --> 01:06:17,673 People from OHSU and the neighborhood continue to come together 1048 01:06:17,707 --> 01:06:20,710 to share a lane and a smile." 1049 01:06:20,710 --> 01:06:25,715 Thank you. No, I... 1050 01:06:25,765 --> 01:06:30,770 and now everyone has to jump in and swim a lap 1051 01:06:30,803 --> 01:06:34,273 You’re going to give us a lesson, right? Right. 1052 01:06:45,485 --> 01:06:50,073 That was really fun. Thanks, honey. 1053 01:06:57,630 --> 01:07:00,466 Put this down. 1054 01:07:00,500 --> 01:07:03,803 Are you all right? Do you want some water? 1055 01:07:56,556 --> 01:08:01,227 Today it’s, uhm, no longer about I-1000. 1056 01:08:03,196 --> 01:08:05,065 What it feels like to me 1057 01:08:05,114 --> 01:08:07,617 is that my marriage has ended today. 1058 01:08:09,319 --> 01:08:16,293 And it ended legally on July 24th, 2006 at 4:40 p.m. 1059 01:08:16,326 --> 01:08:18,712 when Randy died. 1060 01:08:18,745 --> 01:08:22,749 But since there was still something I needed to do 1061 01:08:22,799 --> 01:08:27,420 that Randy asked me, I never really felt that it was over. 1062 01:08:27,470 --> 01:08:30,673 And so today it feels over to me. 1063 01:08:30,723 --> 01:08:33,092 I absolutely believe it’ll pass. 1064 01:08:33,142 --> 01:08:37,430 It’ll be kind of a bittersweet victory in that 1065 01:08:37,480 --> 01:08:40,149 now I’m done. 1066 01:08:40,183 --> 01:08:44,404 You know, now I have to figure out how I go on with the rest of my life, 1067 01:08:45,438 --> 01:08:47,106 and so it’s gonna be hard. 1068 01:08:51,611 --> 01:08:54,914 I’m just feeling, uhm, nervous about 1069 01:08:54,947 --> 01:08:58,501 will I make it through the night without falling apart? 1070 01:09:08,044 --> 01:09:10,547 When Hippocrates set up his oath, 1071 01:09:10,596 --> 01:09:13,099 he wanted medicine to be clear cut, 1072 01:09:13,132 --> 01:09:15,051 we are going to help you. 1073 01:09:15,101 --> 01:09:18,938 We’re not going to abuse you. We’re not going to try to kill you. You can come to us 1074 01:09:18,971 --> 01:09:21,390 and we’ll do our best to heal you. 1075 01:09:21,441 --> 01:09:25,895 Now this, sets physicians into the realm of 1076 01:09:25,928 --> 01:09:28,898 actively helping people end their loss. 1077 01:09:28,898 --> 01:09:34,704 We have a strong tradition in this country to allow patients to deny care. 1078 01:09:34,737 --> 01:09:38,958 Removing a technology is 1079 01:09:38,991 --> 01:09:42,912 a patient voluntarily denying a service 1080 01:09:42,962 --> 01:09:45,798 and that’s acceptable, that is your right. 1081 01:09:45,832 --> 01:09:48,418 But we’ve never before 1082 01:09:48,468 --> 01:09:51,638 allowed physicians to actively 1083 01:09:51,671 --> 01:09:54,123 take somebody’s life, and that’s what this is 1084 01:09:54,157 --> 01:09:56,393 and that’s not the practice of medicine. 1085 01:10:12,825 --> 01:10:14,777 Will you sign my annual? 1086 01:10:23,786 --> 01:10:26,289 It’s great being around all these people, I love it, 1087 01:10:26,339 --> 01:10:29,459 but it just feels weird and 1088 01:10:29,509 --> 01:10:33,847 almost lonely, or empty to me not having Randy right here by my side. 1089 01:10:35,047 --> 01:10:38,133 I almost feel like he’s left me to be, 1090 01:10:38,184 --> 01:10:41,721 just ah, say, "Okay, 1091 01:10:41,771 --> 01:10:45,275 you’ve done everything I’ve asked. Now’s the time to go." 1092 01:10:45,308 --> 01:10:48,812 The initiative is passing with 59 percent of the vote. 1093 01:10:50,279 --> 01:10:52,815 And which, which radio show is this? 1094 01:10:54,984 --> 01:10:57,787 Oh, Oregon Public Broadcasting, okay. 1095 01:10:58,821 --> 01:11:01,490 Okay. Oregon Public Broadcasting. 1096 01:11:09,999 --> 01:11:11,167 It passed? 1097 01:11:33,856 --> 01:11:36,158 This election day 1098 01:11:36,192 --> 01:11:38,911 marks the end of my marriage 1099 01:11:38,945 --> 01:11:41,498 as you have fulfilled 1100 01:11:45,868 --> 01:11:49,705 the final promise that I made to my husband 1101 01:11:50,923 --> 01:11:53,509 by making Death With Dignity legal. 1102 01:11:54,377 --> 01:11:56,629 I say to all of you 1103 01:11:56,679 --> 01:12:00,132 what Randy said to me each and every night, 1104 01:12:02,552 --> 01:12:06,806 "I love you most of all and then some." Thank you. 1105 01:12:27,877 --> 01:12:29,462 Okay 1106 01:12:31,414 --> 01:12:34,217 we’re off to live on 1107 01:12:34,250 --> 01:12:37,303 Yes. ... with dignity. 1108 01:12:39,755 --> 01:12:41,257 See you, dear Rob. 1109 01:12:41,307 --> 01:12:42,925 Well, thanks again. I love you. 1110 01:12:42,975 --> 01:12:46,595 I love you too. I love you for everything you did. 1111 01:12:46,596 --> 01:12:51,067 You know after all of this, now it’s time for you to kind of just 1112 01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:56,606 grieve a little bit for Randy, and move on a little bit. 1113 01:12:56,606 --> 01:12:58,908 Okay? 1114 01:12:58,941 --> 01:13:01,076 Life goes on. I know. 1115 01:13:02,578 --> 01:13:04,780 We’ll be in touch. We will. I’ll talk to you soon. 1116 01:13:04,780 --> 01:13:08,450 And I will be a volunteer forever for you guys. Yes, you will. 1117 01:13:08,501 --> 01:13:13,756 You know it. See ya. Bye. Yes, you will. 1118 01:13:17,793 --> 01:13:19,878 Where the heck is out? 1119 01:13:48,658 --> 01:13:50,710 One, two, three, four... 1120 01:13:54,163 --> 01:13:57,216 Actually, it’s really hard to sort out 1121 01:13:57,249 --> 01:13:59,802 what’s doing what. 1122 01:13:59,835 --> 01:14:05,090 My fevers are spiking. They’re harder. They’re lasting a longer time. 1123 01:14:05,141 --> 01:14:08,011 I’m not responding to antibiotics. 1124 01:14:08,010 --> 01:14:11,430 I have more pain 1125 01:14:11,480 --> 01:14:15,017 and I’m jaundiced, oh boy! 1126 01:14:17,069 --> 01:14:19,488 So yeah, I’m 1127 01:14:19,522 --> 01:14:22,158 declining the last week and a half. 1128 01:14:25,361 --> 01:14:27,496 It’s harder to get out of bed. 1129 01:14:28,531 --> 01:14:31,834 It’s harder to just do normal stuff. 1130 01:14:33,536 --> 01:14:37,707 But I have a really good handle on what’s coming. 1131 01:14:37,707 --> 01:14:40,460 I’ll know. 1132 01:14:40,543 --> 01:14:44,931 Right now because it’s so up and down and there are things that are still working 1133 01:14:44,964 --> 01:14:46,549 it seems like 1134 01:14:46,599 --> 01:14:50,019 a choice that I don’t want to take just yet. 1135 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,190 There’s enough good days 1136 01:14:55,224 --> 01:14:57,560 but I know it’ll get to a point 1137 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,480 where I’m not enjoying things 1138 01:15:00,529 --> 01:15:01,947 and I’m a burden. 1139 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:05,818 In which case 1140 01:15:05,868 --> 01:15:10,072 that choice will seem easy and obvious 1141 01:15:10,122 --> 01:15:11,573 and I’ll be grateful. 1142 01:15:12,875 --> 01:15:15,494 And I’ve had a little preview of that this week, 1143 01:15:16,746 --> 01:15:18,748 Because when the fever gets high 1144 01:15:19,749 --> 01:15:21,417 it hurts. 1145 01:15:21,417 --> 01:15:24,420 I just think, "Well, wouldn’t it be nice to just 1146 01:15:25,588 --> 01:15:28,224 close my eyes and drift off?" 1147 01:15:30,476 --> 01:15:34,397 I don’t think it’s gonna be that easy, 1148 01:15:34,430 --> 01:15:36,933 not with this disease. 1149 01:16:14,303 --> 01:16:17,139 The decision tree for the fluid build-up 1150 01:16:17,139 --> 01:16:18,390 was quite different. 1151 01:16:18,441 --> 01:16:21,811 We hadn’t really been through that so much 1152 01:16:21,811 --> 01:16:25,114 and so that was a whole new fear 1153 01:16:26,732 --> 01:16:30,319 and a lot of the discomforts 1154 01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:34,790 could be easily correlated to the pressure against her ribs and different places 1155 01:16:34,824 --> 01:16:38,378 caused by that fluid build-up. 1156 01:16:38,410 --> 01:16:44,299 And she was supposed to be taking pain medication, It’s not doing its job. 1157 01:16:44,333 --> 01:16:47,336 and she was throwing up and couldn’t keep the pills down. 1158 01:16:49,388 --> 01:16:52,725 She couldn’t eat. She couldn’t swallow. She was 1159 01:16:52,758 --> 01:16:55,010 you know, really weak not only from, 1160 01:16:55,928 --> 01:16:58,013 from all this weight 1161 01:16:58,063 --> 01:17:02,184 but also she was basically starving herself not able to eat enough to keep 1162 01:17:03,519 --> 01:17:05,237 her body mass up. 1163 01:17:05,271 --> 01:17:07,907 Kate called me yesterday and said that you had 1164 01:17:07,940 --> 01:17:11,243 she said, you probably had a little of what we call ascieties of fluid 1165 01:17:11,277 --> 01:17:15,114 on your belly. Uhm, and then it’s probably time to change the tube 1166 01:17:15,164 --> 01:17:17,116 Uhm, uhm, 1167 01:17:17,166 --> 01:17:20,870 like we were talking about before, it’s not an exact science in terms of, uh, 1168 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:25,458 when to change it out, but usually every four, six weeks or so, uhm, 1169 01:17:25,508 --> 01:17:27,343 you get enough debris and stuff that 1170 01:17:27,376 --> 01:17:29,762 just changing it out can make people feel better. 1171 01:17:29,795 --> 01:17:32,514 Sometimes people get so much fluid I mean they just, it 1172 01:17:32,548 --> 01:17:35,134 pushes your diaphragm up so you can’t breathe as well. 1173 01:17:35,184 --> 01:17:37,186 Right. Pushes your bowel out of the way. 1174 01:17:37,219 --> 01:17:41,106 Pushes on your stomach, you don’t really feel like eating as much as you used to. 1175 01:17:41,140 --> 01:17:43,726 Its not good, but it’s not, it’s not a terrible thing 1176 01:17:43,726 --> 01:17:47,196 and under the circumstances it’s kind of expected. 1177 01:17:47,229 --> 01:17:49,732 We have you sign these things over and over again. 1178 01:17:49,782 --> 01:17:51,567 I’m gonna have you sign ours today. 1179 01:17:51,617 --> 01:17:55,571 You’re signing for the billiary tube change and for the parazentesis, okay? 1180 01:17:55,621 --> 01:17:58,491 We’ll get you comfortable. Oh, thank you. 1181 01:18:07,583 --> 01:18:09,135 How’s your pain right now? 1182 01:18:09,168 --> 01:18:11,554 Oh, I’m fine. Okay. 1183 01:18:12,972 --> 01:18:15,591 Is your skin real tender here? 1184 01:18:15,641 --> 01:18:17,676 Whew! It’s cold. 1185 01:18:28,020 --> 01:18:29,939 Ms. Curtis are you doing okay? 1186 01:18:31,490 --> 01:18:34,109 Just have a lovely feeling, just resting. 1187 01:18:53,629 --> 01:18:55,464 Okay, it’s out. 1188 01:18:56,765 --> 01:18:57,933 Good job. 1189 01:19:04,139 --> 01:19:07,643 That’s it, it’s in. Okay? 1190 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,654 First part of the procedure done, now we’re getting the fluid out of your tummy, okay? 1191 01:19:18,704 --> 01:19:21,540 This shouldn’t be too difficult, I think. 1192 01:19:21,573 --> 01:19:25,327 I hope you feel better. There’s quite a bit of fluid there, you were right. 1193 01:19:32,885 --> 01:19:35,504 How are you doing Miss Curtis? 1194 01:19:37,423 --> 01:19:39,342 Are you getting your nap in? 1195 01:19:43,345 --> 01:19:46,565 All done. Both things are done, okay. 1196 01:19:48,517 --> 01:19:51,353 Do you want to see what we took off your tummy? 1197 01:19:51,353 --> 01:19:52,437 Wow! 1198 01:19:52,488 --> 01:19:55,358 Okay, so, we got about twice that much. 1199 01:19:56,859 --> 01:19:59,528 Wow. So it should help you feel better. 1200 01:20:02,364 --> 01:20:04,283 Do you feel better? 1201 01:20:06,585 --> 01:20:10,506 Pat ourselves on the back? Okay. 1202 01:20:10,539 --> 01:20:14,927 Okay. I’ll probably check in with you a little later, okay? Everything went fine. 1203 01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:23,719 How do you feel Cody? 1204 01:20:28,607 --> 01:20:30,559 What’s going on, hon? 1205 01:20:32,895 --> 01:20:34,980 Aww. Bless your heart. 1206 01:20:36,482 --> 01:20:39,068 Oh, you’re welcome! I’m so glad you feel better. 1207 01:20:47,076 --> 01:20:49,161 Hey! I told her about an hour, Stan 1208 01:20:49,211 --> 01:20:51,714 and if she’s feeling better before than I think... 1209 01:20:51,747 --> 01:20:56,585 I think Cody’s choice is a pretty clear choice. 1210 01:20:56,635 --> 01:21:01,473 You know, a year ago we would talk about it and argue about it. 1211 01:21:01,507 --> 01:21:05,678 No one was sure they really knew what was being talked about. 1212 01:21:05,728 --> 01:21:07,647 And you know, I think she’d rather 1213 01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:09,981 not have to choose. I think she’d rather 1214 01:21:10,032 --> 01:21:14,036 gracefully let nature take its course. 1215 01:21:14,069 --> 01:21:17,489 And she was prepared for that not to be an easy course. 1216 01:21:17,539 --> 01:21:19,207 And so 1217 01:21:19,241 --> 01:21:23,662 it’s not about the stint or the liters of fluid. 1218 01:21:25,798 --> 01:21:28,217 It’s about her state of mind and 1219 01:21:29,501 --> 01:21:31,887 her pride in herself, and her pride in us, 1220 01:21:33,672 --> 01:21:37,059 and our pride in ourselves and our pride in her. 1221 01:21:39,978 --> 01:21:43,849 And that doesn’t get talked about very much. 1222 01:21:43,899 --> 01:21:47,603 And doesn’t get said nearly enough 1223 01:21:51,690 --> 01:21:54,026 And then I don’t think Cody really has 1224 01:21:54,026 --> 01:21:57,947 decided, uhm, very much in advance. 1225 01:21:57,996 --> 01:22:00,999 She just said, "Okay, I’m going to take the next option." 1226 01:22:03,085 --> 01:22:06,088 We don’t really know which option it would be. 1227 01:22:15,964 --> 01:22:18,767 So, how are you feeling? Uh... 1228 01:22:21,386 --> 01:22:22,637 I’m feeling better. 1229 01:22:22,688 --> 01:22:24,807 Good. Than I was. But that’s not saying much. 1230 01:22:24,857 --> 01:22:28,894 Yeah, so the pain that you were needing the meds for, was that distention? 1231 01:22:28,894 --> 01:22:30,612 It was the distention but, 1232 01:22:30,646 --> 01:22:32,731 it felt like my ribs were going to break apart 1233 01:22:32,781 --> 01:22:35,117 and my collar bone and stuff. It was so much... 1234 01:22:35,150 --> 01:22:40,906 Pushing and pressure. And a lot of stuff doesn’t taste good anymore. 1235 01:22:40,906 --> 01:22:43,792 Yeah, I can’t take more than a couple of bites. Okay. 1236 01:22:43,826 --> 01:22:47,580 And then I can’t take a deep breath anymore and it’s really hard to walk, now. 1237 01:22:47,579 --> 01:22:50,582 Yeah, that’s the fluid. 1238 01:22:50,632 --> 01:22:52,968 This is a big change from our last visit. 1239 01:22:53,001 --> 01:22:55,420 I mean, I think we were sort of wondering when... 1240 01:22:55,471 --> 01:22:59,308 ’Cause it seemed like you were very, very stable... Yeah, for a long time. 1241 01:22:59,341 --> 01:23:03,178 This is a change. Yes. Yeah, yeah. 1242 01:23:03,228 --> 01:23:06,982 Actually, the main thing we wanted is to get the decision tree from here. 1243 01:23:08,484 --> 01:23:10,236 Okay. 1244 01:23:10,269 --> 01:23:15,024 I wanted to find out about what it’s gonna be like if I choose not to treat 1245 01:23:16,909 --> 01:23:19,495 fever or... Mm-hmm. 1246 01:23:19,578 --> 01:23:23,532 And I just feel like, I’d just rather drift away. Okay. 1247 01:23:23,582 --> 01:23:28,120 Okay. I think the, the drifting away is certainly a possible thing. 1248 01:23:28,170 --> 01:23:31,340 Um, when you’re getting a fever of 104 1249 01:23:31,373 --> 01:23:33,876 that tells me that, that bile is infected 1250 01:23:33,926 --> 01:23:38,964 and that is a, a pretty life threatening infection without treatment. 1251 01:23:39,014 --> 01:23:40,849 If you didn’t treat the fevers, 1252 01:23:40,883 --> 01:23:44,186 you would probably end up getting that really violent shake. 1253 01:23:44,219 --> 01:23:45,687 Yeah. 1254 01:23:45,721 --> 01:23:49,191 But after that passed, at a certain point you probably would 1255 01:23:49,224 --> 01:23:53,945 drift off, your blood pressure would go down and you would lose consciousness and... 1256 01:23:53,979 --> 01:23:56,482 And as far as how long it would be, 1257 01:23:56,481 --> 01:23:58,984 Uh huh. Uhm, it could be twenty four hours. 1258 01:23:58,984 --> 01:24:01,820 It could be, you know, three or four days. 1259 01:24:01,870 --> 01:24:04,740 I just don’t know. That’s not bad. 1260 01:24:05,707 --> 01:24:07,242 But it wouldn’t 1261 01:24:07,292 --> 01:24:10,128 be likely to be much longer than that with those high fevers, 1262 01:24:10,162 --> 01:24:12,297 with that kind of infection. 1263 01:24:12,331 --> 01:24:15,000 And then the other thing to know, too, is that if we 1264 01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:17,469 don’t have oral pain medication regimen, 1265 01:24:17,502 --> 01:24:20,505 there are still other options for that, as well. 1266 01:24:20,589 --> 01:24:22,424 Okay. 1267 01:24:24,843 --> 01:24:28,513 It’s pretty clear that this is a different ball game. 1268 01:24:28,564 --> 01:24:30,015 It is hard to predict. 1269 01:24:30,015 --> 01:24:31,517 I would say 1270 01:24:31,516 --> 01:24:33,935 that if you wanted to get through Thanksgiving and not feel 1271 01:24:33,986 --> 01:24:37,022 as distended and full, we can take more fluid out. 1272 01:24:37,072 --> 01:24:38,941 You know Jill really... Yeah. 1273 01:24:38,991 --> 01:24:40,943 ...was set to come home for Christmas. 1274 01:24:40,993 --> 01:24:42,945 Okay good. December 23rd. 1275 01:24:42,995 --> 01:24:45,364 So there’s a fair amount of incentive to see 1276 01:24:46,531 --> 01:24:48,249 if draining helps 1277 01:24:48,283 --> 01:24:49,701 to get us to there. 1278 01:24:49,751 --> 01:24:51,786 You know, I certainly think the drainage 1279 01:24:51,837 --> 01:24:55,708 could help get things through till Christmas. 1280 01:24:55,757 --> 01:24:58,376 Well, I think this is enough. I... 1281 01:24:58,377 --> 01:25:01,046 Okay. I can’t do any more. 1282 01:25:01,096 --> 01:25:02,931 That’s okay. Okay. 1283 01:25:06,184 --> 01:25:08,887 I’ll be around, uhm, and 1284 01:25:08,937 --> 01:25:12,224 you know, definitely be available so... 1285 01:25:12,224 --> 01:25:16,895 Yeah, it’s fine. It’s fine. This is hard. 1286 01:25:51,396 --> 01:25:54,232 Have you been watching any movies? 1287 01:25:54,266 --> 01:25:57,102 I’ve been thinking of you and I’ve been wanting to stop by. 1288 01:25:57,152 --> 01:26:00,689 Because it’s... Once you get through the first 1289 01:26:00,739 --> 01:26:06,194 flurry of gotta make a list, gotta get everything done, gotta be ready to die, 1290 01:26:06,244 --> 01:26:09,280 then there’s a period of adjustment 1291 01:26:09,331 --> 01:26:13,168 about, okay, now I’m ready to die, now what? 1292 01:26:13,201 --> 01:26:16,204 Are we doing a trim today or style? Just a tiny trim. 1293 01:26:16,254 --> 01:26:17,255 Okay. 1294 01:26:17,289 --> 01:26:19,124 About three weeks ago, 1295 01:26:19,124 --> 01:26:22,461 Cody was on a very minimal amount of pain medication 1296 01:26:22,461 --> 01:26:26,465 Within the last three weeks she’s gone to needing the equivalent of 1297 01:26:26,465 --> 01:26:29,802 ten milligrams of IV morphine an hour. 1298 01:26:29,801 --> 01:26:32,387 which is a lot. 1299 01:26:32,437 --> 01:26:36,141 Part of the pain is due to the fact she has literally liters, 1300 01:26:36,191 --> 01:26:40,228 like 3 two liter coke bottles of fluid in her belly. 1301 01:26:40,278 --> 01:26:44,816 It’s like going from not pregnant to nine months pregnant in a week. 1302 01:26:44,816 --> 01:26:48,153 Then she said, "This is not what I signed up for." 1303 01:26:48,236 --> 01:26:52,123 She says, "I’m suffering now and, uhm, so it’s time." 1304 01:26:53,291 --> 01:26:54,993 I don’t get to take a shower. 1305 01:26:54,993 --> 01:26:58,079 I have to use a handheld thing. Oh shoot, so... 1306 01:26:58,130 --> 01:27:01,083 So this is a real luxury. 1307 01:27:01,166 --> 01:27:06,838 I don’t want to subject myself or my family to 1308 01:27:06,838 --> 01:27:09,007 needless suffering at end of life. 1309 01:27:09,007 --> 01:27:11,309 And I understand that there’s a kind of 1310 01:27:11,343 --> 01:27:13,395 dignity in suffering, 1311 01:27:13,428 --> 01:27:17,482 but there’s a certain grace in accepting the inevitable. 1312 01:27:20,685 --> 01:27:23,488 I think that Cody could die at home 1313 01:27:23,522 --> 01:27:26,025 without using the Death With Dignity Law 1314 01:27:26,074 --> 01:27:30,362 but I think what it would require to keep her comfortable until her body 1315 01:27:30,412 --> 01:27:32,831 let things take its course and she died, 1316 01:27:32,864 --> 01:27:36,618 would be things like, a hospital bed moved into their apartment. 1317 01:27:36,668 --> 01:27:38,537 She’d need nursing support. 1318 01:27:38,587 --> 01:27:42,508 She’d need help with bathing, help with going to the bathroom, help with dressing, 1319 01:27:42,541 --> 01:27:44,376 all of these things being things that 1320 01:27:44,426 --> 01:27:48,013 Cody is just not a person to want to have help with. 1321 01:27:48,046 --> 01:27:49,931 If Cody did not use the law, 1322 01:27:49,965 --> 01:27:52,801 I think with all of our maximum support, 1323 01:27:52,884 --> 01:27:57,522 given the speed with which her symptoms have taken a turn 1324 01:27:57,556 --> 01:28:00,526 I suspect that she would be gone 1325 01:28:00,559 --> 01:28:02,694 within, at least, eight weeks. 1326 01:28:02,727 --> 01:28:06,698 Do you want me to grab you some tea here or something? We’ve got some mint tea here. 1327 01:28:35,393 --> 01:28:37,645 Most of the time I’m okay with it, 1328 01:28:38,513 --> 01:28:40,432 but then I think, 1329 01:28:40,482 --> 01:28:42,517 "Oh, I’m going to die." 1330 01:28:44,186 --> 01:28:46,572 So how are you feeling? 1331 01:28:52,077 --> 01:28:53,912 The wheels are comin’ off, 1332 01:28:53,945 --> 01:28:55,830 what wheels I have left. 1333 01:28:57,616 --> 01:29:01,503 So... So, you’re just hanging in there, basically. 1334 01:29:03,922 --> 01:29:06,591 Yeah, I was gonna try and make it through the holidays 1335 01:29:06,625 --> 01:29:10,846 and now I don’t know if I will. I might have to just... 1336 01:29:10,879 --> 01:29:14,099 So, you’re going, you’re going to have your whole family together. 1337 01:29:14,132 --> 01:29:15,967 When’s, when is Jill coming out? 1338 01:29:16,017 --> 01:29:18,303 Well, she wasn’t going to come until the 23rd, 1339 01:29:18,303 --> 01:29:20,856 but we may change that. 1340 01:29:23,975 --> 01:29:27,312 I’ve done most everything on my to-do list 1341 01:29:28,613 --> 01:29:30,815 except 1342 01:29:34,152 --> 01:29:37,038 I know my mother’s now been diagnosed with 1343 01:29:37,072 --> 01:29:39,908 a, uhm, 1344 01:29:39,958 --> 01:29:41,910 her biopsy came back malignant. 1345 01:29:42,911 --> 01:29:44,329 They’re very slow growing 1346 01:29:44,329 --> 01:29:45,580 and she’s 85 years old 1347 01:29:45,630 --> 01:29:48,166 and she’s not going to get treatment. 1348 01:29:48,166 --> 01:29:52,504 And unfortunately that has not helped our relationship. 1349 01:29:53,505 --> 01:29:56,174 She refuses to talk about it. 1350 01:29:56,224 --> 01:29:58,977 It’s really difficult between us right now. 1351 01:29:59,010 --> 01:30:01,396 How’s that bang length, there? 1352 01:30:01,429 --> 01:30:04,649 You would think that would make things easier, but it didn’t. 1353 01:30:05,901 --> 01:30:07,903 But you know, 1354 01:30:07,936 --> 01:30:10,238 just because you’re going to die doesn’t mean 1355 01:30:10,272 --> 01:30:12,357 you’ve solved everything in your life. 1356 01:30:14,743 --> 01:30:19,197 Let me just have you stand up. I’m just going to check everything here. 1357 01:30:23,501 --> 01:30:26,921 I enjoy Cody’s presence so much 1358 01:30:26,955 --> 01:30:30,375 and to think of her not being around is very sad and 1359 01:30:30,425 --> 01:30:33,378 it’s sad in the way that you lose patients, it’s always sad. 1360 01:30:33,428 --> 01:30:35,597 It’s sad to say good-bye to somebody, 1361 01:30:35,630 --> 01:30:38,766 but it is also part of life and, 1362 01:30:40,268 --> 01:30:42,053 uhm, 1363 01:30:42,103 --> 01:30:46,808 it’s something that I consider it an honor to be a part of. 1364 01:30:46,858 --> 01:30:51,946 And I knew all along that I wanted to be there for her if she wanted me there. 1365 01:30:51,980 --> 01:30:54,065 So when she asked if I would be there, 1366 01:30:54,115 --> 01:30:57,285 it wasn’t really a decision. I just knew that’s what I wanted to do. 1367 01:30:57,319 --> 01:31:00,405 And we had a very amusing conversation where 1368 01:31:00,405 --> 01:31:03,742 we set a date for her life to end 1369 01:31:03,742 --> 01:31:07,746 which seems very surreal but Cody’s joking the whole way. 1370 01:31:07,746 --> 01:31:12,134 It was one of those sad and funny and 1371 01:31:12,167 --> 01:31:16,304 inspiring conversations, all at the same time. 1372 01:31:16,338 --> 01:31:19,424 We ended the conversation just as I pulled in the driveway, 1373 01:31:19,424 --> 01:31:23,061 and I got out and walked into the house and I told my husband, 1374 01:31:23,094 --> 01:31:25,730 "Uhm, I just made a date with someone for them to 1375 01:31:25,764 --> 01:31:27,816 um, end their life." 1376 01:31:27,849 --> 01:31:31,486 And he knew, of course, what I was talking about, but it was a very interesting 1377 01:31:31,519 --> 01:31:32,937 conversation. 1378 01:31:55,677 --> 01:31:59,097 Linda had said all along that when it’s time, you’ll know 1379 01:31:59,130 --> 01:32:01,132 and it’s true. 1380 01:32:03,134 --> 01:32:05,303 And I thought it would just happen. 1381 01:32:05,353 --> 01:32:07,388 I thought I would drift away 1382 01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,891 but my body’s so strong. 1383 01:32:09,941 --> 01:32:12,310 It was clear that I wasn’t going to drift away, 1384 01:32:12,310 --> 01:32:16,064 that it was going to be excruciating and long. 1385 01:32:17,115 --> 01:32:20,318 So, I’m going to take the 1386 01:32:20,318 --> 01:32:23,705 the Seconal, Monday at six o’clock. 1387 01:32:23,738 --> 01:32:25,707 Actually, I’ll take the 1388 01:32:25,740 --> 01:32:28,826 the, the first two pills at 5:15pm 1389 01:32:28,877 --> 01:32:32,080 and then my surgeon will be here 1390 01:32:32,130 --> 01:32:33,999 ’cause we were worried that I 1391 01:32:33,998 --> 01:32:38,302 would lose my ability to swallow or keep anything down. 1392 01:32:38,336 --> 01:32:40,138 She has a full day on clinic 1393 01:32:40,171 --> 01:32:43,841 but she’ll be done at six, and so six it is. 1394 01:32:43,892 --> 01:32:46,011 Hey mom? Yeah. 1395 01:32:46,061 --> 01:32:48,647 Sorry, I’m, uh, 1396 01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,265 it says 1397 01:32:52,934 --> 01:32:54,018 to melt 1398 01:32:54,069 --> 01:32:56,071 four squares of semi-sweet chocolate. 1399 01:32:56,104 --> 01:32:58,690 Yeah, but I think this is better and it’s darker. 1400 01:32:58,740 --> 01:33:00,659 I think people would like that better. 1401 01:33:00,692 --> 01:33:02,911 And the top is so thin it’s nice to have it as 1402 01:33:02,944 --> 01:33:05,413 as the darker, less sweet chocolate. 1403 01:33:05,447 --> 01:33:06,999 Plus vanilla. Yeah. 1404 01:33:07,031 --> 01:33:10,451 So, any amount of vanilla? Oh... 1405 01:33:10,502 --> 01:33:12,120 Yeah, any amount. 1406 01:33:12,170 --> 01:33:15,540 Just pour the vanilla in there! 1407 01:33:15,590 --> 01:33:18,593 Put two teaspoons... Of vanilla. 1408 01:33:18,626 --> 01:33:20,128 Ouch, ooh. 1409 01:33:20,178 --> 01:33:22,213 Laughing makes my stomach really hurt. 1410 01:33:22,213 --> 01:33:24,849 That’s worse than crying. 1411 01:33:24,883 --> 01:33:28,303 No more laughing, T. 1412 01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:30,471 My mom’s 1413 01:33:30,522 --> 01:33:33,392 been making Christmas bars every year, 1414 01:33:33,441 --> 01:33:36,861 they’re everybody’s favorite cookie, but 1415 01:33:36,895 --> 01:33:40,115 nobody else in our family really knew how to make ’em. 1416 01:33:40,148 --> 01:33:41,816 So, it was 1417 01:33:41,866 --> 01:33:43,951 great to learn how to make them. 1418 01:33:43,985 --> 01:33:45,954 I think this is perfect. 1419 01:33:47,122 --> 01:33:49,658 My hands are shaking. 1420 01:33:49,707 --> 01:33:51,576 I think that because it was 1421 01:33:51,626 --> 01:33:54,045 just a couple of days before 1422 01:33:54,078 --> 01:33:56,747 my mom chose to do Death With Dignity, 1423 01:33:56,798 --> 01:33:59,334 there was kind of like, "Well, this is it." 1424 01:33:59,384 --> 01:34:01,970 If there’s anything else that you really want to make, 1425 01:34:02,003 --> 01:34:05,423 we should make it together in the next two days. 1426 01:34:05,423 --> 01:34:09,477 I kind of, already had a food relationship with my mom, 1427 01:34:09,511 --> 01:34:12,681 of trying recipes and cooking with her. 1428 01:34:12,730 --> 01:34:15,433 All right, thank you T that’s brilliant. 1429 01:34:19,988 --> 01:34:22,240 Looks really nice T, 1430 01:34:22,273 --> 01:34:25,443 although I should put in a big X and an O in there. 1431 01:34:26,444 --> 01:34:29,030 So, this was kind of like 1432 01:34:29,948 --> 01:34:32,200 uh, the last recipe. 1433 01:34:32,250 --> 01:34:36,204 Thank you. Yeah, thank you mom. 1434 01:34:36,254 --> 01:34:39,424 All right, lie down. Okay, bye. 1435 01:34:47,932 --> 01:34:52,186 Oh, and there’s some t-shirts. This I’m going to... 1436 01:34:52,220 --> 01:34:54,222 Talking to myself. 1437 01:34:54,272 --> 01:34:57,275 That’s great on you Megan. I love the way this feels. 1438 01:34:57,308 --> 01:35:00,528 It has sparkle in it. I know it does, but see it’s got 1439 01:35:00,562 --> 01:35:02,447 perfect on your coloring. 1440 01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:08,319 Ah, I like it on you. You think it’s okay? 1441 01:35:08,319 --> 01:35:09,787 I thought it would be 1442 01:35:09,821 --> 01:35:12,874 scary and apprehensive, 1443 01:35:12,907 --> 01:35:15,326 like all the people you read about on death row, 1444 01:35:15,326 --> 01:35:17,879 but it doesn’t feel like that at all. 1445 01:35:17,912 --> 01:35:20,081 Not that I’ve been on death row, 1446 01:35:20,131 --> 01:35:23,084 but I’m not considering any last minute appeals. 1447 01:35:25,003 --> 01:35:27,255 Stan liked that one, but it’s too short. 1448 01:35:27,305 --> 01:35:29,424 But it was cool. 1449 01:35:29,474 --> 01:35:31,343 You’re not going to wear them again? 1450 01:35:31,392 --> 01:35:33,010 Ah, you mean tomorrow? 1451 01:35:33,011 --> 01:35:35,180 And Monday? 1452 01:35:35,230 --> 01:35:38,600 I am on a lot of morphine 1453 01:35:38,650 --> 01:35:42,154 now. Seventy five milligrams 1454 01:35:42,186 --> 01:35:43,571 an hour, 1455 01:35:43,605 --> 01:35:45,323 and it’s not going to be better for very long. 1456 01:35:45,373 --> 01:35:48,326 It’s just going to keep sliding. 1457 01:35:48,376 --> 01:35:50,912 Stan was so funny. Yesterday he says, 1458 01:35:50,962 --> 01:35:56,384 "Okay, well I want to know where the checkbook is and all the stuff I need to know." 1459 01:35:56,417 --> 01:35:59,086 I have tried 1460 01:35:59,137 --> 01:36:01,923 to show you this for the last 1461 01:36:01,973 --> 01:36:05,593 for the last thirty five years." 1462 01:36:06,728 --> 01:36:08,813 Oh, I had this, 1463 01:36:08,846 --> 01:36:10,731 I had this for you. 1464 01:36:10,765 --> 01:36:15,019 Now, close your eyes and put out your hand. 1465 01:36:15,069 --> 01:36:17,521 Mom, do you want me to butter the pans? 1466 01:36:20,024 --> 01:36:22,193 It’s been in my bedside. 1467 01:36:23,661 --> 01:36:26,948 Mom? What? No, you don’t need to butter the pan. 1468 01:36:35,340 --> 01:36:38,376 I meant to get it wrapped, but I didn’t. 1469 01:36:42,180 --> 01:36:43,598 Really, 1470 01:36:43,631 --> 01:36:47,718 up to the last few weeks it’s been a walk in the park. 1471 01:36:48,853 --> 01:36:50,555 I had no idea. 1472 01:36:50,555 --> 01:36:52,774 It’s kind of like, "So, this is what 1473 01:36:52,807 --> 01:36:55,143 terminal cancer is like. 1474 01:36:55,193 --> 01:36:56,861 This is not fun. 1475 01:36:56,894 --> 01:36:59,196 I didn’t sign up for this. 1476 01:36:59,230 --> 01:37:00,898 Oh wait, 1477 01:37:00,898 --> 01:37:04,068 there’s a, 1478 01:37:04,068 --> 01:37:07,872 there’s a, there’s a door I can open." 1479 01:37:11,409 --> 01:37:14,662 You want to get up? Yes. I have to have... 1480 01:37:17,248 --> 01:37:19,417 Oh, that’s good T. 1481 01:37:19,417 --> 01:37:21,886 That’s...you did a good job. 1482 01:37:21,919 --> 01:37:25,973 You can get a little more...and the rivets are really hard. 1483 01:37:26,007 --> 01:37:28,259 These pots with rivets. 1484 01:37:28,309 --> 01:37:30,261 Nope, you did pretty brilliantly. 1485 01:37:31,429 --> 01:37:34,349 Good job, sweetie. 1486 01:37:35,733 --> 01:37:37,935 So you don’t want the lick? 1487 01:37:37,985 --> 01:37:39,687 No? Okay. 1488 01:37:39,737 --> 01:37:43,157 You don’t want to have to come running again do you? All right. 1489 01:37:46,027 --> 01:37:47,946 Well, thank you, sweetie. You did a, 1490 01:37:47,995 --> 01:37:50,948 you did a brilliant job. I think it was mostly you. 1491 01:37:51,032 --> 01:37:52,617 Well, Megan helped. 1492 01:37:52,617 --> 01:37:57,038 So thank you, and you helped. ...help, didn’t you? 1493 01:38:32,156 --> 01:38:34,542 But I just wanted it to be a happy day. 1494 01:38:36,544 --> 01:38:39,997 And you musn’t think that ’cause I’m crying now that I’m not happy. 1495 01:38:40,047 --> 01:38:41,215 I am. 1496 01:38:42,250 --> 01:38:44,719 I just cry easily. 1497 01:38:56,264 --> 01:38:58,066 Should we do one last song? 1498 01:38:58,099 --> 01:39:00,351 Okay, one last song. What have you got? 1499 01:39:00,351 --> 01:39:01,936 Ah, You are My Sunshine? 1500 01:39:01,986 --> 01:39:05,072 Oh that’s a good one. We can do that one. 1501 01:39:05,106 --> 01:39:07,609 You are my sunshine. 1502 01:39:07,658 --> 01:39:10,444 My only sunshine. 1503 01:39:10,495 --> 01:39:15,917 You make me happy when skies are grey. 1504 01:39:15,950 --> 01:39:21,672 You’ll never know dear how much I love you. 1505 01:39:21,706 --> 01:39:26,878 Please don’t take my sunshine away. 1506 01:39:26,961 --> 01:39:31,716 The other night, dear when I am sleeping. 1507 01:39:31,766 --> 01:39:36,304 I dreamt I held you in my arms. 1508 01:39:47,982 --> 01:39:49,901 On the other hand. 1509 01:39:52,570 --> 01:39:58,042 You have other ideas? How about Jingle Bells? 1510 01:39:58,075 --> 01:40:00,411 While dashing through the snow 1511 01:40:00,411 --> 01:40:02,079 In a one horse open sleigh. 1512 01:40:02,129 --> 01:40:03,580 Oh yeah, that’s a... 1513 01:40:03,581 --> 01:40:07,385 O’er the fields we go, laughing all the way. 1514 01:40:19,146 --> 01:40:23,267 Oh what fun it is to ride in a one horse open sleigh. Hey! 1515 01:40:25,436 --> 01:40:34,612 ...jingle all the way. Oh what fun it is to ride in a one horse open sleigh. 1516 01:40:35,997 --> 01:40:38,616 Ah, very nice. 1517 01:40:38,666 --> 01:40:41,335 Six o’clock, hmm. What should we do? 1518 01:40:41,369 --> 01:40:44,455 Hey! Well, hello. 1519 01:40:44,505 --> 01:40:47,091 Hello, Dr. Kate! Sorry to be late. 1520 01:40:47,124 --> 01:40:49,627 Oh no, you’re wonderful. Hey guys. 1521 01:40:49,627 --> 01:40:54,932 You are the cat’s pajamas. You are... 1522 01:40:56,968 --> 01:40:59,304 Oh, I can hear the spoon clinking. 1523 01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:11,699 And I got some Gatorade in there, so she’s good to go. Okay. 1524 01:41:13,284 --> 01:41:15,787 Finish off that last little piece. 1525 01:41:17,154 --> 01:41:18,822 Okay. 1526 01:41:18,823 --> 01:41:21,876 You guys are ready? Family’s all ready? Yep. We’re good. 1527 01:41:21,909 --> 01:41:24,545 It should only take a couple minutes, daddy. 1528 01:41:24,579 --> 01:41:27,332 Oh, I can stay. Okay. 1529 01:41:27,381 --> 01:41:28,999 I love you so much, mama. 1530 01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:31,135 I know. I love you too, sweetie. 1531 01:41:33,471 --> 01:41:38,009 There’s holiday Kleenex in the next room. 1532 01:41:40,011 --> 01:41:42,397 Are we good? I think that’s good. 1533 01:41:55,943 --> 01:41:59,330 Are you ready? Yeah, I’m ready. 1534 01:41:59,363 --> 01:42:01,916 Thank you, Linda. 1535 01:42:01,949 --> 01:42:05,503 Oh, I feel like I should give you a hug. Can I have a hug? 1536 01:42:05,536 --> 01:42:11,008 Yes. Thank you. Oh wait! 1537 01:42:11,042 --> 01:42:17,215 I forgot there’s someone important here. 1538 01:42:23,387 --> 01:42:25,773 I love you honey. 1539 01:42:25,806 --> 01:42:28,809 Cody, this tastes terrible. I’ve told you that before. 1540 01:42:28,859 --> 01:42:30,060 Yeah. 1541 01:42:30,061 --> 01:42:34,032 It tastes really terrible. So just drink it down 1542 01:42:36,450 --> 01:42:38,619 Oh yeah, yeah. 1543 01:42:38,653 --> 01:42:41,956 Straight down is the best without... 1544 01:42:45,493 --> 01:42:48,379 Wow! Nice work. 1545 01:42:48,412 --> 01:42:50,547 Do you want the rest? Blach! 1546 01:42:50,581 --> 01:42:53,417 Blach? No? That’ll do it. Do I have to? 1547 01:42:59,674 --> 01:43:04,095 Now, you’ll start getting a little bit sleepy 1548 01:43:04,095 --> 01:43:08,933 and uhm, go to sleep. I’m going to step out so 1549 01:43:08,983 --> 01:43:13,070 that you can have this time with your family. Okay. 1550 01:43:13,104 --> 01:43:15,189 Blah, boy does that taste terrible. 1551 01:43:15,239 --> 01:43:18,943 I’m just going to give you a quick hug before you get sleepy. 1552 01:43:20,327 --> 01:43:22,362 With grace, as always. 1553 01:43:32,006 --> 01:43:35,960 It was a great day, honey. Thank you. And a great weekend. 1554 01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,880 Practically perfect. 1555 01:43:38,929 --> 01:43:42,266 And thank you mama and daddy for coming 1556 01:43:42,299 --> 01:43:45,135 and for singing me out. 1557 01:43:45,136 --> 01:43:48,890 And thank you for coming so long ago. 1558 01:43:50,891 --> 01:43:54,478 The room’s starting to go around and around. 1559 01:43:54,528 --> 01:43:58,399 That’s generally not a good sign. 1560 01:44:03,037 --> 01:44:06,574 This is so easy. I wish people 1561 01:44:06,624 --> 01:44:10,044 knew how easy this was. 1562 01:44:10,127 --> 01:44:13,464 It’s a good thing. Thank you, Dr. Kate. 1563 01:44:14,498 --> 01:44:16,216 Oh, no problem. 1564 01:44:18,252 --> 01:44:21,338 I love you, honey. 1565 01:44:22,339 --> 01:44:25,142 Thirty six years. 1566 01:44:26,477 --> 01:44:28,929 I’m 54 years. 1567 01:44:32,183 --> 01:44:34,686 I’m drifting. I’m drifting. 119797

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