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A NETFLIX ORIGINAL DOCUMENTARY
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SOMEWHERE IN NEVADA
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Ms. Kaiser, you went from
from being an idealistic intern
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of Barack Obama's campaign
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to work for an organization
with undesirable people.
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Didn't that make you uncomfortable?
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He said he had
two different business cards.
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Who did you work for?
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Don't take this the wrong way.
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Have you ever in your life worked...
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...or gave information
to any state intelligence agency?
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NEW YORK
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Hello, a short coffee, please.
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- That's $2.25.
- Cool.
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Good.
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Who has seen an advertisement
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that has made you think
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that your microphone
is listening to your conversations?
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It is hard for us to imagine how it works,
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but what happens
is that their behavior
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is almost exactly predictable.
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Advertisements that seem
incredibly accurate,
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that make us think we are being spied on,
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are very likely to be proof of
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that the targeting works,
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and predicts our behavior.
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Maybe it's because the Internet
was a reality for me since I was a child,
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but the ads don't bother me that much.
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When do they affect us?
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This is an express train to Brooklyn.
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Next station: Canal Street.
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It all started with the dream
of a connected world.
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A space where experiences could be shared
experiences
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and feel less lonely.
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Thanks for the good wishes!
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In a short time, the world
became our matchmaker...
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...information verifier,
personal entertainer,
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custodian of our memories
and even our psychologist.
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I taught Digital Media
and Application Development.
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Did you know that the data
of what we do on the Internet
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did not vanish.
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And the more I looked into it,
the more I realized...
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...that these digital traces of ours
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are exploited by a billion-dollar-a-year
billion dollar a year industry.
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We are now the product.
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But we were so fascinated
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with the benefits
of this free connectivity
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that no one bothered to read the terms and
the terms and conditions.
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All my interactions,
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uses of credit cards,
Internet searches,
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the places where I am, my "likes"...
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...all are recorded in real time
and related to my identity,
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thus providing the acquirer with direct access to my
direct access to my emotional impulse.
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Armed with this knowledge,
they compete for my attention.
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They provide me with
a constant flow of content
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made especially for me
that only I can see.
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And this happens with each one of us.
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My tastes...
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...my fears...
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...my interests...
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...what my limits are
and what it takes to overcome them.
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Return to Washington.
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Corrupt Hillary lies a lot.
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The stock market will crash.
There will be a civil war.
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We witness the aftermath
of our filtered reality
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in the 2016 elections.
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...was not offended
when Donald Trump said it.
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Go fuck yourselves!
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The real world became
a highly divided zone of destruction.
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Fuck those beaners!
Build the wall!
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How did the dream of a connected world
of a connected world drove us apart?
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My daughter is eight years old and my son is four.
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I analyze each application
before installing it and...
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I am the parent who reads
the privacy policy and says:
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"No. See this? They read your messages.
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Is that okay with you?"
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That's my new way
of annoying my children.
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- Hello.
- Hello
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I have been concerned for a long time
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that the misuse
of our data and information
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may affect my children's future.
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But it was only with the 2016 elections
I became aware
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that it had already happened to us
in charge.
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It was a sensation...
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...to experience
the worst of technology.
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I became obsessed looking for answers.
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And the question I was asking myself was:
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who instilled fear in us and how?
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This was the Alamo Project,
for which it was carried out
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Trump's digital campaign.
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In the middle of the Alamo Project,
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spent a million dollars a day
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for Facebook ads.
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We had people from Facebook,
YouTube and Google
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and met here.
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Basically, they were our collaborators
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in terms of using the platform
as effectively as possible.
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But we also learned
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that a company called Cambridge Analytica...
called Cambridge Analytica...
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...also worked on the Alamo Project.
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Cambridge Analytica was here.
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This is the data brain.
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This was the data center.
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"Such and such a state will be the target."
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- How did they know?
- Inside that...
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That is its secret ingredient.
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- Paul-Olivier?
- I'm there.
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Let me configure the screen.
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I contacted a mathematician in Switzerland
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named Paul-Olivier Dehaye.
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I have been investigating Cambridge Analytica for more than a year.
that I have been investigating Cambridge Analytica.
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I think there is more to discover.
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Paul and I understood
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that in order to send personalized messages
to people, you need their data.
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THE DATA THAT TURNED THE WORLD UPSIDE DOWN
UPSIDE DOWN
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And Cambridge Analytica claimed to have
5000 data points
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on every U.S. voter.
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5,000 data points
on each American.
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But it was invisible.
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And the question is
how to make the invisible visible.
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That is the hardest part.
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Paul-Olivier Dehaye had a hypothesis.
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And that assumption was that U.S. voter
U.S. voter data
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were processed at Cambridge Analytica's
of Cambridge Analytica in Great Britain.
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HEAD OFFICE
OF SCL/CAMBRIDE ANALYTICA
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If true,
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through a British lawyer
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I could force them to return my data to me.
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The beauty of David's case
is that it summarizes
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why data protection is a fundamental right.
is a fundamental right.
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LAWYER - DATA PROTECTION
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The only thing he wants to know
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is what you did.
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And if David finds out
the data that his profile hides...
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REQUEST FOR PERSONAL DATA
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...you begin to connect the dots
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With Facebook, Cambridge Analytica,
Trump, Brexit,
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and all these loosely connected
loosely connected.
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You have to see the beast inside,
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the system from the inside.
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I am not a robot
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I was the chief financial and operations
and operations
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of Cambridge Analytica or SCL Group.
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If they were to talk to former employees
of Cambridge Analytica,
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would tell them the same thing.
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It was an environment of great innovation.
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Hello, my name is Alexander Nix,
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president of Cambridge Analytica,
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world leader
in data-driven communications.
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From the advertisers of yesteryear
to the mathematicians of today,
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data experts whose ideas
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can tell you more about the audience
you want to reach and how to reach them.
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Alexander Nix had set out to
to create a solid election business.
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And then the Obama campaign
campaign used, with great success,
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data and digital communications
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that opened a market to provide
to provide them with services
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to Republican politicians in the U.S.
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God bless the great state of Iowa.
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Ted Cruz went from being the lowest-ranked
the lowest-ranked candidate in the primaries
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to be the last man standing
before Trump was nominated.
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Let me first say...
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Their success in Iowa is proof positive of our
of our methodology.
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...that victory is God's.
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CRUZ'S CAMPAIGN ATTRIBUTES ITS SUCCESS TO
TO PSYCHOLOGICAL AND ANALYTICAL DATA
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They said Cruz had
an incredible strategy
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and now we know whose idea it was.
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With me is Alexander Nix,
president of Cambridge Analytica,
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the company behind it.
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Alexander, it is fascinating to analyze
all the work that is done
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in view of the strategy.
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Have the other candidates called you?
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Well...
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De:--@cambridgeanalytica.org
Subject: Trump Contract
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Do you need me to start
with the contract tomorrow?
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It is a privilege for me to speak to you
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of the power of big data
and psychographic data.
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When Cambridge Analytica
teamed up with the Trump campaign,
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we were an attractive proposition.
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We spent 14 months working
on the Cruz campaign
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and collected a large amount of voter
of voter data and research
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that we made available to the Trump
to the Trump team.
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By submitting hundreds of thousands of
Americans to this survey...
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...we were able to establish a model
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where we have about four or five thousand
or five thousand data points
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that we can use to predict
the personality of every adult in the country.
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Personality conditions behavior.
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And behavior influences our vote.
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We could address people
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with very specific digital content.
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Secretary Clinton said the e-mails she sent or received were not secret.
she sent or received were not secret.
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- Was it true?
- No, it wasn't.
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Our movement will replace
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to a failed and corrupt political
and corrupt political establishment.
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And you may wonder why I'm not 50 points ahead of him.
50 points ahead.
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Need to ask?
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HILLARY CLINTON
EXTREMELY CARELESS
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DANGEROUS MYTHOMANIAC
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DECISIVE NIGHT IN THE U.S.
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A night for history,
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Donald Trump's surprise victory over Hillary Clinton
over Hillary Clinton,
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contradicting all polls,
analyst and political class once again,
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upon his election as President of the United States.
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DONALD TRUMP
ELECTED PRESIDENT
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Dear Alexander and team:
Congratulations on winning the election!
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We are celebrating with you.
Sincerely, SCL/CA Mexico
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U.S.A., U.S.A., U.S.A.! U.S.A., U.S.A., U.S.A.!
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much to all of you.
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WOW! WHAT A NIGHT!
THANKS, GUYS. A
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If there is one thing we can take away
from this event,
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is that all these technologies
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can make a big difference
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and will remain so for many years to come.
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Thank you.
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After the election, we were thrilled.
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We saw our way to becoming a
a multi-million dollar company.
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We were on top of the world.
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At least, we thought so.
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LONDON
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INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST
FOR THE GUARDIAN
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This is the interesting box.
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I was investigating
Cambridge Analytica
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and its relation to the Brexit campaign
to leave the European Union.
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And I have done it full time,
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twelve hours a day,
seven days a week.
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I would say that it has become
into an obsession.
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It has been exhausting.
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When I started to analyze
this whole network of links
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between Cambridge Analytica and Brexit...
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...I sent an email to Andy Wigmore,
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who is a collaborator of Nigel Farage.
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And Nigel Ferage is a central figure in the Brexit campaign.
of the Brexit campaign.
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THE MAN WHO CAMPAIGNED FOR BREXIT
FOR 20 YEARS
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I asked:
"Can we go for coffee?
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I am very interested in technology
and campaigns.
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And, quite simply, he told me everything.
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THE BAD BOYS OF BREXIT CONGRATULATE
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TO THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
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It was after the investiture.
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Andy was showing me the pictures on his cell phone.
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"This one is from the investiture."
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And: "Very funny.
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We had a great time with Donald.
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I asked him about the presentation
Cambridge Analytica.
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And he said to me, "It's because of Nigel.
He's a friend of Steve Bannon."
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Ladies and gentlemen, Steve Bannon.
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Steve Bannon was Trump's campaign manager.
Trump's campaign manager.
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He is also vice president
of Cambridge Analytica.
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He said to me, "There are a couple of billionaires
in the U.S.
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We all have the same goal,
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and Brexit laid the groundwork for Trump."
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For most of my life,
THE U.S. HAS BEEN THE LEADER. For most of my life, the U.S. has been the leader.
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POLITICAL PROBREXIT
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I would like to think, in my own way,
that what we did with Brexit
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was the beginning
of what will end up being
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a global revolution
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and Trump's victory is part of it.
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THE BAD GUYS OF BREXIT
Trump's Inauguration Party
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And then he told me many other things:
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on the use of artificial intelligence,
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of Facebook's data exploration...
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And he said, "It's scary, Carole.
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It's amazing how much data
there is about people.
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They give them to you just like that!
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It's scary!"
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I moved on.
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Brexit work.
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I began to track down former Cambridge Anlytica
Cambridge Anlytica employees.
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I finally found someone
who wanted to talk to me.
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Chris Wylie.
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First we talked on the phone,
which was crazy.
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The conversation lasted eight hours and...
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I'm Christopher Wylie,
data scientist,
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and helped set up Cambridge Analytica.
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It is incorrect to say
that Cambridge Analytica
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is a company that performs scientific analysis
data analysis company or a company that handles algorithms.
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It is a full-service
full-service propaganda machine.
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PRODUCTS AND SERVICES
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You were an investor in Cambridge Analytica.
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- I helped assemble it.
- That's right.
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And I gave it that amazing name.
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Steve Bannon was an editor at Breitbart.
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He is a proponent of the Breitbart doctrine,
which means
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that if you want to make profound changes
in society,
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first it must be divided.
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Only when you divide it,
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you can reshape those pieces
to shape a new society.
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#BLACKLIVESVALUE
FOSTERS GLOBAL CHAOS
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This was the weapon
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that Steve Bannon wanted to build
to wage his culture war.
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And we built it for them.
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I needed to find a way to
to gather data
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and for that I turned to professors
from the University of Cambridge
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and asked for their opinion.
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UNIVERSITY OF CAMBRIDGE
PROFESSOR ALEKSANDER KOGAN
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ONE CLICK PERSONALITY TEST
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"THIS YOUR DIGITAL LIFE"
RECEIVE YOUR PUBLIC PROFILE
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Kogan offered us applications
on Facebook with special permissions...
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...to collect data from people using or downloading the application...
who were using or downloading the application...
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...and also access
to your entire network of contacts
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to obtain data from your friends as well.
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If they had friends
who used the application,
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Today, after battling leukemia, my father passed away,
my father passed away.
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We would take the status updates,
the "likes",
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and sometimes private messages.
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It was not only the voters who were our target
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but also his personality.
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Just by touching several hundred thousand
of people
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a psychological profile is built
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of every voter in the entire U.S.
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Didn't people know
that their data was being manipulated like this?
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No.
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They didn't even think about
that it was personal information
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and that they were manipulating it
in a way that was incomprehensible to them?
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No.
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In history, there are many examples
of highly unethical experiments.
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And this one was like that?
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I think so,
it was a very unethical experiment.
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You are playing with the psychology
of an entire country
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without their consent
and without their knowledge.
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And not only is the psychology of an entire nation
the psychology of an entire nation,
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but with that of an entire country
within a democratic process.
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Everything began to become known.
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Now we weren't just threatening
to do things, we were doing them.
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- We are ready.
- One, two, three...
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And now we continue with the scandal
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Cambridge Analytica,
a company that profiles voters.
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David Carroll filed a lawsuit
in Great Britain
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requesting that Cambridge Analytica
Cambridge Analytica
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to hand over all the data
they collected about him.
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Tell us what you are requesting.
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Complete information...
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...where they got our data,
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how they processed them,
with whom they shared them,
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and whether we can be excluded.
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Cambridge Analytica claims to have
5000 data points
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on millions of people.
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It is true.
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When people see the extent
of surveillance,
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I think you will be impressed.
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We do not work with Facebook data
nor do we have their data.
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We use Facebook
as a platform for advertising.
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Mr. Nix, Channel 4 News.
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- Did you lie to Parliament about Facebook?
- Of course he didn't.
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It's crazy that I have to engage,
for a whole year...
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a risky legal action in another country
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to obtain my voter profile.
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David, don't stop, don't give in.
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- Go ahead.
- I will. Don't worry.
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Do not sleep.
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Facebook was down 6.35%.
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That's $120 billion.
That's a lot.
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Officials of the Office of the Information Commissioner
Information
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search Cambridge Analytica's
of Cambridge Analytica in London.
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They are inside checking computers,
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searching for documents.
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Facebook knew about the data collection
for two years,
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but only went public three days ago
three days ago.
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Really, Facebook?
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Didn't they say they breached data
of 50 million people
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but they notify me of my uncle's sister's
of my uncle's sister's dog?
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Wish Rex a happy birthday!
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You are up against a giant,
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to the Goliath of big data marketing.
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What are your hopes of winning?
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People do not admit
that propaganda works.
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Because recognizing it means facing
our own susceptibility,
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an appalling lack of privacy,
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and an irremediable dependence
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on the platforms that ruin our democracies
our democracies on several fronts.
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Join us in our fight
to recover our data.
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MARCH 27, 2018 - BRITISH PARLIAMENT
FAKE NEWS INQUIRY
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Welcome to our research on disinformation
on disinformation and fake news.
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We count with the presence of
of Christopher Wylie and Paul-Olivier Dehaye
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in this commission to give testimony.
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Did you or anyone else evaluate
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whether this has influenced
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in the final result of the EU referendum?
of the EU referendum?
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When you fail a doping control
at the Olympics,
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the amount of illegal drugs ingested is not
of illegal drug ingested, right?
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You don't say, "I still would have come in first."
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or: "He only took half of it" or...
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It doesn't matter. If you cheated,
you lose the medal, right? Because...
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...if we allow cheating
in our democratic process,
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what will happen next time and the next time?
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You should not win by cheating.
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Many, like me, will say....
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...that he was a close collaborator of these people
of these people during a certain period.
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Why did you decide to report the fact
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and testify against your colleagues?
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It is a process of coming to terms with
what one has created
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and the impact this has had.
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I feel great remorse
for helping to set it up.
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Attention has been focused
on me because I have transformed...
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...on the face of it, because I am
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the one who has given his face and name.
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00:28:04,766 --> 00:28:07,894
But this commission should also subpoena Brittany Kaiser
Brittany Kaiser.
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Who is Brittany Kaiser?
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From: brittany.kaiser@cambridgeanalytica.org
Subject: Trump Contract
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Do you need me to start
with the contract tomorrow?
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00:28:22,075 --> 00:28:24,869
Subject: Support for the presidency
of Donald Trump
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00:28:24,953 --> 00:28:27,747
Great job, Brittany. You are magnificent. A
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I am no longer interested in supporting
white, powerful men
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which, obviously, do not take into account the common good.
the common good.
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BANG!
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Brittany Kaiser, who was a key player
within Cambridge Analytica,
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presented himself as an informant.
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00:28:46,558 --> 00:28:50,311
Until three weeks ago, Brittany Kaiser,
senior executive, held the key to
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Steve Bannon's home in Washington.
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00:28:52,939 --> 00:28:56,192
He spoke at CPAC in 2016
along with Kellyanne Conway,
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00:28:56,276 --> 00:28:58,820
was at Trump's victory party
Trump's victory party,
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with mega-donor Rebekah Mercer.
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His curriculum is curious
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Ms. Kaiser was also involved.
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with billionaire Arron Banks,
Brexit supporter,
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and its Leave.EU campaign.
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00:29:10,373 --> 00:29:14,002
Cambridge Analytica whistleblower,
Brittany Kaiser, had enough of the lies.
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She is not an informant.
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- What he raises is interesting.
- Why is she speaking now?
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He only spoke in part.
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He's talking to researchers
and then you'll get the full picture...
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00:29:31,102 --> 00:29:35,732
If Brittany Kaiser talks, it all blows up.
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SOMEWHERE IN THAILAND
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I have proof
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00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:58,213
that the Brexit and Trump campaigns
and the Trump campaign
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may have been carried out illegally.
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00:30:03,426 --> 00:30:07,388
And, for my safety,
I don't want geolocation of where I am.
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00:30:07,764 --> 00:30:09,557
I am...
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FORMER BUSINESS DIRECTOR
CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA
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...who attempts to overthrow two governments
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and the world's most powerful companies.
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All at the same time.
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00:30:20,693 --> 00:30:25,365
With a somewhat fragmented story,
but hopefully it will soon be perfect.
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The wealthiest companies
technology companies.
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Google, Facebook, Amazon, Tesla.
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00:30:35,542 --> 00:30:40,588
And these companies
are the most powerful in the world
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00:30:40,672 --> 00:30:45,552
because, last year, the value of data
value of data surpassed oil.
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00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:48,471
Data is the world's most valuable
most valuable asset in the world.
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00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:52,392
And these companies are worth a lot
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00:30:52,475 --> 00:30:56,271
because they have been exploiting
people's assets.
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00:30:57,939 --> 00:31:00,817
One of my friends contacted me
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00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:03,945
to ask me if I would be satisfied
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00:31:04,028 --> 00:31:07,866
with the way history would tell my side of the story.
would tell my version.
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00:31:08,783 --> 00:31:11,536
And I thought, "No.
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00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:14,497
I'm really not happy.
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00:31:14,581 --> 00:31:17,917
There must still be
a lot of information you can provide
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to help solve everything.
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00:31:30,597 --> 00:31:33,600
How are you doing?
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00:31:33,683 --> 00:31:36,352
Today I need some advice
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I have not worked for CA for two Fridays
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WRITER / POLITICAL TECHNOLOGIST
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I am a political technologist,
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and try to shed some light
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about how they have used and abused
of the data.
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00:31:52,452 --> 00:31:55,079
Nowadays people are guided by their instinct.
instinct.
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00:31:55,163 --> 00:31:59,918
There is something wrong here and it needs to be fixed.
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00:32:01,044 --> 00:32:05,548
So I stopped almost everything I was doing
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to get to work with Brittany Kaiser
with Brittany Kaiser.
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I went and met her for the first time,
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and spoke very openly,
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which got me thinking:
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"There's a lot here."
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00:32:20,146 --> 00:32:24,025
POLITICAL ACTION CONFERENCE
CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL ACTION CONFERENCE (CPAC)
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We need to understand
people's persuasion factors.
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What message will we give to the voters
so that they understand...?
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00:32:34,243 --> 00:32:37,538
Tina and I met
with Brittany Kaiser.
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00:32:37,622 --> 00:32:41,876
We are unlike any other political and
political and communications consultancy.
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00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,920
Do you work for both parties?
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No, only for U.S. Republicans
Republicans in the U.S.
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WE WON IOWA!
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00:32:48,383 --> 00:32:49,801
And in Great Britain?
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00:32:49,884 --> 00:32:52,929
In fact, we are now working
on the Brexit campaign.
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Yes, in Leave.US. we will do
a large-scale investigation
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throughout the country to understand
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why people are interested in staying or leaving
to stay or leave the EU.
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00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:07,694
And the responses will inform
our policies and communications
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in order to obtain more new voters,
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more unregistered and indifferent voters
and indifferent voters than at other times.
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Sit down, search your soul
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and start writing the truth
about you
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What happened with all the details
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You can do something good with it.
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00:33:31,092 --> 00:33:34,345
I think we have already laid the groundwork
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for her to share
relatively explosive material
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we have discovered.
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00:33:40,309 --> 00:33:46,149
And your inbox and your hard drive
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00:33:46,733 --> 00:33:50,820
are a veritable treasure trove
of very superficial information.
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00:33:53,906 --> 00:33:56,075
We are just scratching the surface.
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00:34:21,642 --> 00:34:24,395
Tell us about your first meeting
at Trump Tower.
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November 2015,
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I went with Alexander Nix to see
Corey Lewandowski
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who was the campaign manager.
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00:34:34,572 --> 00:34:39,077
I asked Corey why the place
looked familiar.
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He replied:
"It's the set of The Apprentice.
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That's why it should be familiar to you."
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I was shocked, you know?
497
00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:52,048
Trump's campaign headquarters
was a television set.
498
00:34:52,131 --> 00:34:53,925
Yes, that's right.
499
00:34:57,804 --> 00:35:00,640
The idea of a company
500
00:35:01,099 --> 00:35:04,393
which conducted a large-scale analysis
of a population
501
00:35:05,311 --> 00:35:08,523
and then identified
the triggers that would cause people to
502
00:35:08,606 --> 00:35:12,110
to move from one state to another state,
503
00:35:12,193 --> 00:35:18,491
seems to oppose the feeling of autonomy
of autonomy and freedom of the individual....
504
00:35:19,659 --> 00:35:22,245
...and to the idea of democracy.
505
00:35:22,662 --> 00:35:23,579
Right?
506
00:35:24,497 --> 00:35:28,000
I don't know. I would question that.
507
00:35:28,668 --> 00:35:31,295
The strategy is aimed at
508
00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:34,465
to identify those who still consider
who still consider
509
00:35:34,549 --> 00:35:36,259
- different options...
- Yes.
510
00:35:36,342 --> 00:35:41,139
...and make them aware
about the options that exist
511
00:35:41,222 --> 00:35:42,765
and, if they are undecided,
512
00:35:42,849 --> 00:35:45,768
can be convinced of one or
of one option or the other.
513
00:35:45,852 --> 00:35:49,230
- Yes.
- I repeat, they choose, but....
514
00:35:49,313 --> 00:35:52,733
- Do they really choose?
- ...are people who...
515
00:35:54,610 --> 00:35:58,990
Ultimately, they are the ones who will go
to the polls and will decide.
516
00:35:59,407 --> 00:36:02,243
I ask Brittany Kaiser all this.
517
00:36:02,326 --> 00:36:03,411
- I know.
- You do?
518
00:36:03,494 --> 00:36:07,123
I'm not asking you as part of
of Cambridge Analytica or SCL
519
00:36:07,206 --> 00:36:10,585
because you no longer belong there.
520
00:36:10,668 --> 00:36:12,503
Yes, I understand.
521
00:36:12,587 --> 00:36:14,589
Do you think Cambridge Analytica
522
00:36:14,672 --> 00:36:17,925
in any way contravened human rights?
human rights?
523
00:36:18,009 --> 00:36:18,885
No.
524
00:36:20,678 --> 00:36:25,766
But, I repeat, the more I listen,
the more I question things.
525
00:36:26,684 --> 00:36:31,939
Before that, I spent my career
working for human rights.
526
00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:34,817
Good.
527
00:36:35,276 --> 00:36:36,777
Let's go back to that.
528
00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:41,574
It wasn't that long ago. It was a decade ago.
529
00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:44,952
- It wasn't that long ago.
- It wasn't that long ago.
530
00:36:47,455 --> 00:36:50,499
This is our puppy
March 31, 2006
531
00:36:50,583 --> 00:36:54,045
I worked in elections
since I was 14 or 15 years old.
532
00:36:55,838 --> 00:37:00,051
I told my cousin that I had applied
to be an intern on the Obama campaign.
533
00:37:00,134 --> 00:37:03,721
He replied:
"If you don't get the internship, I die."
534
00:37:05,097 --> 00:37:07,892
He was part of the team
that managed Obama's Facebook.
535
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:13,940
We invented how social networks
communicate with voters.
536
00:37:14,023 --> 00:37:16,943
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT
537
00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:22,865
I then worked for several years
in human rights
538
00:37:22,949 --> 00:37:24,617
and international relations.
539
00:37:25,451 --> 00:37:27,203
First for Amnesty International
540
00:37:27,286 --> 00:37:30,998
and then lobbying at the UN
in the European Parliament.
541
00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:32,917
GREETINGS FROM THE BEECH
542
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:38,089
I used to say that I liked to campaign
for human rights,
543
00:37:38,965 --> 00:37:41,842
but sometimes I feel like I'm hitting
against a wall
544
00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:44,262
because I don't see the results
of what I do.
545
00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:46,764
I don't know if I'm wasting my time.
546
00:37:49,475 --> 00:37:52,144
That's where I was when I met
Alexander Nix.
547
00:37:56,482 --> 00:37:59,402
Mutual friends
came up with the idea of introducing us to each other.
548
00:38:00,486 --> 00:38:04,115
He was very interested in my experience
with the Democrats.
549
00:38:04,532 --> 00:38:06,450
He handed me his card and said:
550
00:38:06,534 --> 00:38:09,161
"I'll get you drunk
to steal your secrets."
551
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:16,168
And, in December 2014,
offered me a job.
552
00:38:19,422 --> 00:38:21,215
REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE
GUEST
553
00:38:21,299 --> 00:38:24,802
Crossing paths with a company
where I would see my influence
554
00:38:24,885 --> 00:38:27,221
I was very excited about it.
555
00:38:33,978 --> 00:38:36,439
I became a little more conservative
or refined
556
00:38:36,522 --> 00:38:40,985
in terms of my dress
or my vocabulary,
557
00:38:41,986 --> 00:38:46,407
and in terms of doing things
like going shooting on the weekends
558
00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:47,867
and the like.
559
00:38:48,284 --> 00:38:52,413
They were very different things
from what I usually did.
560
00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:02,006
It must have been quite an adventure.
561
00:39:02,214 --> 00:39:03,424
It was very interesting.
562
00:39:03,507 --> 00:39:05,384
With my cowboy boots,
563
00:39:05,468 --> 00:39:08,429
I got into character,
I joined the NRA.
564
00:39:08,721 --> 00:39:11,223
- At the Rifle Association, right?
- Yes.
565
00:39:11,307 --> 00:39:13,851
To understand their way of thinking.
566
00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:18,356
I don't want to use weapons. I am not interested.
567
00:39:18,439 --> 00:39:20,441
I felt I was going to meet
568
00:39:21,233 --> 00:39:24,320
people with whom he did not agree
not agree with at all,
569
00:39:24,403 --> 00:39:27,281
as with my grandparents, uncles, aunts, uncles, cousins.
570
00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:32,620
So it wasn't just a costume, was it?
You felt important.
571
00:39:32,953 --> 00:39:35,498
It was important. It is important.
572
00:39:35,581 --> 00:39:39,085
I think the main problem with U.S.
of U.S. policy
573
00:39:39,168 --> 00:39:43,005
is that people are so polarized
that they don't understand each other,
574
00:39:43,089 --> 00:39:45,925
that's why they can't work together
and nothing gets done.
575
00:39:59,522 --> 00:40:03,526
I am about to draft some questions for a senator
for a senator
576
00:40:03,609 --> 00:40:06,904
to make them to Mark Zuckerberg
577
00:40:06,987 --> 00:40:10,825
at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing
Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.
578
00:40:11,367 --> 00:40:14,995
"How much of Facebook's revenue
579
00:40:16,122 --> 00:40:19,458
comes directly from monetization
580
00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:23,212
of users' personal data?".
581
00:40:25,089 --> 00:40:26,382
All.
582
00:40:27,842 --> 00:40:29,427
Exactly.
583
00:40:30,386 --> 00:40:32,972
The reality is that Facebook knows about this
584
00:40:33,055 --> 00:40:34,849
more than anyone else in the world
585
00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:39,979
because Facebook is the best platform
to experiment.
586
00:40:40,062 --> 00:40:41,188
That's right.
587
00:40:41,814 --> 00:40:44,400
It always gives you
the best interaction rates.
588
00:40:44,483 --> 00:40:46,610
We spend the most money
589
00:40:46,694 --> 00:40:49,655
of any commercial or political
or political campaign on Facebook.
590
00:40:49,947 --> 00:40:51,740
It takes almost the entire budget.
591
00:40:51,824 --> 00:40:53,492
- That's right.
- Yes.
592
00:40:55,327 --> 00:40:58,831
There is the possibility
that the U.S. public
593
00:40:58,914 --> 00:41:01,876
and other countries
has been the subject of experiments.
594
00:41:07,339 --> 00:41:09,425
Remember the Facebook tests
we used
595
00:41:09,508 --> 00:41:12,761
to form personality patterns
of U.S. voters?
596
00:41:15,556 --> 00:41:19,226
The truth is that not every voter
was our target equally.
597
00:41:20,561 --> 00:41:22,438
Almost all of our resources
598
00:41:22,521 --> 00:41:25,983
were intended for those whose minds
whose minds we could change.
599
00:41:26,942 --> 00:41:28,903
We call them "persuadable".
600
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,781
They are all over the country,
601
00:41:32,865 --> 00:41:36,494
but the persuadables that mattered most
were in the undecided states
602
00:41:36,577 --> 00:41:41,081
such as Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Florida.
and Florida.
603
00:41:44,043 --> 00:41:47,796
Each of these states
were divided into districts.
604
00:41:49,215 --> 00:41:54,720
You can say there are 22,000 persuadable
persuadable voters in this district...
605
00:41:55,846 --> 00:41:59,725
...and if there are enough persuadable
persuasible in the right districts,
606
00:41:59,808 --> 00:42:03,354
those states would turn red
instead of blue.
607
00:42:04,855 --> 00:42:07,816
Our team of creatives
designed custom content
608
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:09,693
to activate these individuals.
609
00:42:09,777 --> 00:42:12,029
Terrorists love
permeable borders.
610
00:42:12,112 --> 00:42:15,199
Deficiencies in border
in border security allow them to...
611
00:42:15,282 --> 00:42:19,620
We bombard them with blogs,
website notes, videos, advertisements...
612
00:42:19,703 --> 00:42:21,705
Every conceivable platform.
613
00:42:22,122 --> 00:42:24,959
Until they saw the world
the way we wanted.
614
00:42:29,129 --> 00:42:31,382
Until they voted for our candidate.
615
00:42:33,467 --> 00:42:34,885
It is like a boomerang.
616
00:42:35,678 --> 00:42:37,221
The data is sent...
617
00:42:38,222 --> 00:42:39,765
...are analyzed
618
00:42:40,349 --> 00:42:43,602
and return in the form of
of a message addressed to
619
00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:46,021
to modify your behavior.
620
00:42:46,105 --> 00:42:48,440
LET'S DEFEAT CORRUPT HILLARY
621
00:42:50,359 --> 00:42:51,360
I LIKE
622
00:43:02,496 --> 00:43:05,249
The DCMS Commission announced
the next witnesses
623
00:43:05,332 --> 00:43:07,459
for the investigation of false news.
624
00:43:07,751 --> 00:43:09,587
- There it is.
- Me.
625
00:43:09,795 --> 00:43:12,798
- You go the day before Alexander.
- The former president.
626
00:43:12,923 --> 00:43:13,882
future witnesses
627
00:43:14,008 --> 00:43:15,634
He goes a day before me.
628
00:43:15,718 --> 00:43:16,844
Brittany Kaiser - Alexander Nix
629
00:43:18,053 --> 00:43:21,140
- Does all this seem very real to you?
- It is very strong.
630
00:43:22,349 --> 00:43:23,642
It is real.
631
00:43:24,018 --> 00:43:25,060
And important.
632
00:43:33,777 --> 00:43:36,113
THE CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA THING
QUESTIONS THIS DEMOCRACY
633
00:43:36,238 --> 00:43:38,490
DOCUMENT LINKS MILLIONAIRES TO BREXIT CAMPAIGNS?
TO BREXIT CAMPAIGNS?
634
00:43:39,575 --> 00:43:42,244
The first time I wrote
about Cambridge Analytica
635
00:43:43,162 --> 00:43:45,372
was in December 2016.
636
00:43:47,333 --> 00:43:51,253
I said they had worked
for the Trump and Brexit campaigns.
637
00:43:54,423 --> 00:43:56,383
I started receiving letters
from them saying:
638
00:43:56,467 --> 00:43:58,093
"We don't work
in the Leave campaign.
639
00:43:58,177 --> 00:44:00,679
CA did no paid or pro bono work for
or free work for Leave.EU
640
00:44:02,139 --> 00:44:04,600
It was puzzling
because on the Leave.EU website
641
00:44:04,683 --> 00:44:06,894
It said, "We hired Cambridge Analytica."
642
00:44:08,937 --> 00:44:12,524
Alexander Nix stated how they worked
for the Leave campaign.
643
00:44:13,525 --> 00:44:17,279
Yes, I'm afraid we didn't talk about
about that campaign. Not at all.
644
00:44:19,490 --> 00:44:20,949
Did you talk about it or not?
645
00:44:21,033 --> 00:44:22,326
No, we did not talk about it.
646
00:44:22,409 --> 00:44:23,702
- Good.
- Yes.
647
00:44:24,745 --> 00:44:27,706
And that's when I discovered a video
648
00:44:27,873 --> 00:44:30,125
of the press launch of Leave.EU.
of Leave.EU.
649
00:44:32,628 --> 00:44:35,798
And I said:
"Look, there's Brittany Kaiser!
650
00:44:35,881 --> 00:44:38,300
He works for Cambridge Analytica.
651
00:44:38,384 --> 00:44:40,427
He is at the press presentation
652
00:44:40,511 --> 00:44:43,263
talking about all things ingenious
653
00:44:43,347 --> 00:44:46,225
what they will do with the data
for the Leave campaign.
654
00:44:48,686 --> 00:44:51,021
What the fuck is that?
655
00:44:51,105 --> 00:44:54,817
How can you keep denying it?
It's crazy.
656
00:44:58,779 --> 00:45:02,491
And at the same time
Leave EU published
657
00:45:02,574 --> 00:45:04,243
horrible videos about me.
658
00:45:04,993 --> 00:45:06,203
I want to get off!
659
00:45:06,286 --> 00:45:08,831
There was a parody
of And Where's the Pilot?
660
00:45:08,914 --> 00:45:11,375
- Don't worry!
- I'll take care of it.
661
00:45:11,458 --> 00:45:14,545
Everyone would go and tell her
not to be hysterical.
662
00:45:14,628 --> 00:45:15,587
And they beat her.
663
00:45:15,671 --> 00:45:17,548
Sit down. I'll take care of it.
664
00:45:17,673 --> 00:45:19,717
They said, "Easy, easy."
665
00:45:20,342 --> 00:45:24,471
A line of people formed
and the last one had a gun.
666
00:45:26,432 --> 00:45:27,975
All this was happening
667
00:45:28,058 --> 00:45:30,936
to the rhythm of the Russian National Anthem.
668
00:45:38,068 --> 00:45:41,613
The day after they launched
the video of Leave.EU,
669
00:45:41,739 --> 00:45:45,701
the director of another news agency
for whom he was going to do a report
670
00:45:46,034 --> 00:45:47,536
he told me at lunch:
671
00:45:47,619 --> 00:45:50,330
"I think it's very risky
for you to file the report."
672
00:45:50,414 --> 00:45:53,542
@carolecadwalla is doing poorly
as the Russian conspiracy intensifies!
673
00:45:53,667 --> 00:45:58,046
One gets used to living
with so much misinformation
674
00:45:58,130 --> 00:46:00,883
and this propaganda absolutely every day.
675
00:46:01,049 --> 00:46:04,887
And to feel its effects
and know that it works,
676
00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:07,931
and that it influences reality
whether people believe it or not.
677
00:46:13,437 --> 00:46:15,439
I am used to writing notes.
678
00:46:15,522 --> 00:46:18,025
You write it and then move on
with another topic.
679
00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:21,445
I write articles and that's what I did.
But I said to myself, "They lied.
680
00:46:21,528 --> 00:46:24,156
They lied about something that is huge.
681
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,533
Because, well, it's...
682
00:46:27,075 --> 00:46:29,953
the rest of the country's future.
683
00:46:30,037 --> 00:46:32,664
- What do you think, Nigel?
- Nigel!
684
00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:35,459
THE EU FAILED US ALL
685
00:46:35,584 --> 00:46:39,171
In the referendum, almost everyone had
defined points of view.
686
00:46:40,839 --> 00:46:44,218
But there was a small group of people
who didn't.
687
00:46:44,301 --> 00:46:46,345
They were the persuadable ones.
688
00:46:46,845 --> 00:46:50,057
It was all a matter of finding
these few people
689
00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:52,810
and bombard them with ads.
690
00:46:55,187 --> 00:46:57,898
This was invisible to us.
691
00:47:00,567 --> 00:47:06,990
Let June 23 go down in history as our Independence Day.
as our Independence Day.
692
00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:13,705
The British people have spoken
and the answer is: "We're out".
693
00:47:13,789 --> 00:47:15,082
For better or worse,
694
00:47:15,165 --> 00:47:18,043
this decision will define
our future policy.
695
00:47:18,126 --> 00:47:22,256
Realize that this great country
has made a grave mistake.
696
00:47:22,339 --> 00:47:24,174
It is an earthquake.
697
00:47:24,258 --> 00:47:27,553
What happens after an earthquake?
We will see.
698
00:47:27,886 --> 00:47:30,013
People disagreed
about the meaning of "Leave".
699
00:47:30,097 --> 00:47:32,933
- Simple: leave. Period.
- Leave had no manifesto.
700
00:47:33,016 --> 00:47:34,643
But "there is no such thing as leaving, period".
701
00:47:34,726 --> 00:47:37,604
Brexit! Brexit!
702
00:47:39,356 --> 00:47:40,440
LONDON
703
00:47:40,524 --> 00:47:41,984
For your safety,
704
00:47:42,067 --> 00:47:45,487
parents are not allowed to carry children
in the luggage trolleys
705
00:47:45,571 --> 00:47:47,573
or let them play
on escalators
706
00:47:47,656 --> 00:47:49,283
- Hi, Mom.
- Hi, Mom.
707
00:47:50,742 --> 00:47:52,744
That's it, it's over.
708
00:47:52,828 --> 00:47:56,748
I managed to enter the United Kingdom
without any problems,
709
00:47:56,832 --> 00:47:59,251
which is fantastic.
710
00:47:59,585 --> 00:48:02,379
I want you to be mentally strong
in this,
711
00:48:02,462 --> 00:48:05,799
because what you do is huge.
712
00:48:05,883 --> 00:48:06,758
I know.
713
00:48:06,842 --> 00:48:09,261
And I still fear for your life,
714
00:48:09,344 --> 00:48:12,097
because of the powerful people involved.
715
00:48:12,347 --> 00:48:13,515
Yes, I know.
716
00:48:13,891 --> 00:48:15,976
You must take care of yourself all the time.
717
00:48:16,059 --> 00:48:20,439
I know, but I can't keep quiet
because it angers the powerful.
718
00:48:20,522 --> 00:48:23,066
Yes, I know.
719
00:48:23,734 --> 00:48:25,944
I understand this perfectly.
720
00:48:26,904 --> 00:48:30,782
Someone has to bring down
those assholes down.
721
00:48:31,158 --> 00:48:32,242
Exactly.
722
00:48:32,326 --> 00:48:34,953
Well, it doesn't matter.
723
00:48:35,203 --> 00:48:36,997
When I have time next month,
724
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,667
I have to go pay for electricity and gas.
725
00:48:41,209 --> 00:48:44,254
Now I don't have $1,000.
I have to wait.
726
00:48:44,338 --> 00:48:46,715
I can pay for it.
727
00:48:47,466 --> 00:48:49,885
Don't worry. I don't need them now.
728
00:48:51,887 --> 00:48:54,014
Okay, sweetheart, take care.
729
00:48:54,097 --> 00:48:55,599
- I love you.
- Take care of yourself. I love you.
730
00:48:55,682 --> 00:48:58,143
- I love you. Bye-bye, sweetheart.
- Bye, sweetheart.
731
00:49:07,903 --> 00:49:09,821
Glad to be back,
732
00:49:09,905 --> 00:49:14,368
but I don't think I can show myself
in public much.
733
00:49:17,162 --> 00:49:18,664
The last time I left,
734
00:49:18,747 --> 00:49:23,627
I was in a very difficult situation
with several of my friends.
735
00:49:24,294 --> 00:49:26,421
- Fire exit one?
- Yes.
736
00:49:29,925 --> 00:49:33,345
Many were angry
because he worked for the Brexit campaign
737
00:49:33,428 --> 00:49:36,682
and because he was still working for a company
738
00:49:36,765 --> 00:49:39,601
who supported the likes of Ted Cruz
and Donald Trump.
739
00:49:42,354 --> 00:49:45,482
And there is still a group of people
who do not know
740
00:49:45,565 --> 00:49:49,194
whether I am doing the right thing
or if I do it to protect myself.
741
00:49:56,410 --> 00:49:58,078
More news about Facebook.
742
00:49:58,161 --> 00:50:01,289
Mark Zuckerberg will testify in Congress
tomorrow and Wednesday.
743
00:50:01,832 --> 00:50:06,294
This morning he announced measures
to avoid obstacles in the voting...
744
00:50:18,724 --> 00:50:20,684
It's today's Financial Times.
745
00:50:20,892 --> 00:50:23,729
My name is on the front page.
746
00:50:23,812 --> 00:50:24,855
Shit.
747
00:50:26,773 --> 00:50:27,649
Here it is.
748
00:50:29,234 --> 00:50:31,361
"Zuckerberg to be questioned
in Congress.
749
00:50:31,445 --> 00:50:34,364
Recognize that the social network
did not do enough
750
00:50:34,448 --> 00:50:37,159
to prevent their tools from being used to
from being used to harm".
751
00:50:37,826 --> 00:50:41,538
"Facebook should pay its 2 billion users for their data.
its 2 billion users for their data.
752
00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:45,709
Large technology companies
are transformed into digital kleptocracies.
753
00:50:46,084 --> 00:50:47,169
Yesterday...".
754
00:50:51,673 --> 00:50:54,176
I don't see any paragraph that says...
755
00:50:55,385 --> 00:50:57,429
"I helped build this monster....
756
00:50:58,555 --> 00:50:59,473
...that...
757
00:50:59,514 --> 00:51:01,683
I hope Facebook will serve as a model
758
00:51:01,767 --> 00:51:05,395
...wreaked havoc on the world
and it will take decades to recover from it...
759
00:51:06,438 --> 00:51:09,900
and I'm very, very sorry about all that.
I don't see it here.
760
00:51:12,235 --> 00:51:13,945
The data war has begun.
761
00:51:15,572 --> 00:51:19,409
MARK ZUCKERBERG, FACEBOOK CEO
ABOUT USER DATA,
762
00:51:19,493 --> 00:51:23,455
SENATE COMMITTEES ON JUDICIARY AND COMMERCE
OF THE SENATE
763
00:51:24,581 --> 00:51:28,376
This company is a superstate,
764
00:51:29,127 --> 00:51:33,006
and the only nation with jurisdiction
over it is ours.
765
00:51:40,514 --> 00:51:44,810
The Judiciary and Commerce Commissions,
Science and Transportation
766
00:51:44,893 --> 00:51:46,103
open the session.
767
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:51,024
Chairman Grassley and members of the
members of the committee.
768
00:51:52,275 --> 00:51:57,405
My priority has always been
the social mission of connecting people,
769
00:51:57,489 --> 00:52:00,158
to form a community
and bring the world closer together.
770
00:52:01,201 --> 00:52:04,412
We didn't do enough to prevent
to prevent these tools from
771
00:52:04,496 --> 00:52:06,206
be used to harm.
772
00:52:06,623 --> 00:52:09,251
Before talking about the measures to
to solve it,
773
00:52:09,334 --> 00:52:10,961
I will talk about how we got here.
774
00:52:11,628 --> 00:52:13,630
When we contacted
with Cambridge Analytica,
775
00:52:14,256 --> 00:52:16,466
we were told that the data had been deleted.
the data.
776
00:52:16,716 --> 00:52:20,345
A month ago, new reports indicated
that this was not true.
777
00:52:21,179 --> 00:52:25,058
We are getting to the bottom
of what Cambridge Analytica did.
778
00:52:25,767 --> 00:52:27,894
Come on, blame me, Mark.
779
00:52:27,978 --> 00:52:30,564
...to solve it
and prevent it from happening again.
780
00:52:31,439 --> 00:52:35,235
Thank you very much for seeing me.
I will be happy to answer your questions.
781
00:52:36,486 --> 00:52:38,029
Well, Mr. Zuckerberg.
782
00:52:38,113 --> 00:52:40,782
During the 2016 campaign,
783
00:52:41,158 --> 00:52:44,286
Cambridge Analytica
worked with the Trump campaign
784
00:52:44,369 --> 00:52:47,664
to refine Project Alamo tactics
of the Alamo Project.
785
00:52:47,747 --> 00:52:50,167
Were Facebook employees involved?
Facebook employees?
786
00:52:51,668 --> 00:52:55,046
Senator, our employees
did not work with Cambridge Analytica.
787
00:52:55,130 --> 00:52:56,339
Of course it is.
788
00:52:56,423 --> 00:52:57,465
My goodness.
789
00:52:57,549 --> 00:53:00,594
The Republican team in Washington did.
I met with them.
790
00:53:00,677 --> 00:53:03,555
Although I know we collaborated
with the Trump campaign
791
00:53:03,638 --> 00:53:06,600
with sales assistance
as with other campaigns.
792
00:53:06,683 --> 00:53:10,604
So they could have participated and worked
and worked during that time?
793
00:53:11,229 --> 00:53:13,481
You may be able to establish this
in your research.
794
00:53:14,316 --> 00:53:16,818
Senator, my staff will
will be in touch with you
795
00:53:16,902 --> 00:53:19,988
to give you details
that I cannot give you today.
796
00:53:20,071 --> 00:53:22,657
Oh, my God. That's what the hearing is for...
797
00:53:22,741 --> 00:53:25,368
- ...do you know what I mean?
- No, I don't.
798
00:53:25,452 --> 00:53:26,328
Good.
799
00:53:29,831 --> 00:53:33,460
Do you consider the 87 million users
are victims?
800
00:53:35,003 --> 00:53:36,254
Senator, I think...
801
00:53:38,256 --> 00:53:41,885
Yes, they did not want their information
802
00:53:42,302 --> 00:53:45,347
was sold to Cambridge Analytica
by a developer. Y...
803
00:53:46,473 --> 00:53:47,682
...is what happened.
804
00:53:47,766 --> 00:53:49,392
It happened in spite of our control.
805
00:53:49,476 --> 00:53:50,810
It wasn't us, though.
806
00:53:50,894 --> 00:53:54,606
It is our responsibility to prevent it
and take prompt action.
807
00:53:55,649 --> 00:53:57,734
One of the measures to be taken
808
00:53:57,817 --> 00:54:00,946
is to conduct an audit of Cambridge Analytica's
of Cambridge Analytica's systems
809
00:54:01,029 --> 00:54:04,324
to understand what they do,
if they still have data...
810
00:54:04,407 --> 00:54:08,286
Obviously, Facebook's reputation
has been damaged
811
00:54:08,370 --> 00:54:10,997
by partnering with Cambridge Analytica.
812
00:54:11,081 --> 00:54:13,416
...process by which
Cambridge Analytica...
813
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:15,043
...refers to Cambridge Analytica....
814
00:54:15,126 --> 00:54:18,255
Recent stories about
about Cambridge Analytica
815
00:54:18,338 --> 00:54:19,631
and data extraction...
816
00:54:20,006 --> 00:54:23,218
Look how many people are posting
about Zuckerberg...
817
00:54:23,301 --> 00:54:25,136
- Everyone is watching.
- Oh, my goodness.
818
00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:27,097
All this says...
819
00:54:27,305 --> 00:54:29,182
Cambridge...
820
00:54:31,851 --> 00:54:36,064
I never imagined Cambridge Analytica
would become famous.
821
00:54:46,825 --> 00:54:49,411
I learned many things from that moment.
822
00:54:50,161 --> 00:54:53,581
I learned that in the face of a communication
communication crisis,
823
00:54:53,665 --> 00:54:56,960
it is not necessary to hire
a company specialized in it.
824
00:54:57,127 --> 00:54:59,337
We talked to...
825
00:55:00,922 --> 00:55:04,884
...many crisis management companies
communication companies that listened to us,
826
00:55:04,968 --> 00:55:07,220
evaluated it and then told us:
827
00:55:07,637 --> 00:55:10,307
"Sorry, but we don't want
to be associated with your brand.
828
00:55:11,474 --> 00:55:15,270
And I thought that's what they were there for.
829
00:55:15,770 --> 00:55:19,733
It became impossible for us to express ourselves.
830
00:55:26,072 --> 00:55:28,950
We have convened
this press conference
831
00:55:29,034 --> 00:55:33,788
to address some unfounded accusations
some unfounded accusations
832
00:55:33,872 --> 00:55:38,376
and to the flood of inaccurate speculations and
and riddled with misinformation.
833
00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:41,671
The company has been described
in certain areas as if it were
834
00:55:41,755 --> 00:55:42,881
a Bond villain.
835
00:55:43,256 --> 00:55:46,634
Cambridge Analytica is not a villain.
836
00:55:47,135 --> 00:55:49,346
Do you believe that what was done was illegal?
837
00:55:50,013 --> 00:55:52,974
We believe that it may be
under British law
838
00:55:53,058 --> 00:55:54,517
and that is what we question.
839
00:55:54,601 --> 00:55:56,936
We have a statement
from Cambridge Analytica.
840
00:55:57,020 --> 00:55:58,313
Cambridge said:
841
00:55:58,396 --> 00:56:01,649
"David Carroll has the same right
to raise this petition
842
00:56:01,733 --> 00:56:05,612
than a Taliban inside a cave in Afghanistan.
in Afghanistan.
843
00:56:08,656 --> 00:56:10,742
It came like a tsunami.
844
00:56:11,743 --> 00:56:16,039
There were 35,000 stories a day in the media.
845
00:56:16,289 --> 00:56:17,832
THE CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA SCAM
846
00:56:19,626 --> 00:56:22,087
They wanted to discredit Trump.
847
00:56:22,545 --> 00:56:24,881
They wanted to discredit Brexit.
848
00:56:24,964 --> 00:56:27,050
And we were the means to do it.
849
00:56:27,634 --> 00:56:31,012
Do you feel you have manipulated democracy?
850
00:56:31,388 --> 00:56:36,351
By providing services to a candidate
who would have been fairly nominated
851
00:56:36,434 --> 00:56:39,646
as a Republican U.S. Representative?
U.S. Representative?
852
00:56:40,105 --> 00:56:41,523
How is this possible?
853
00:56:43,108 --> 00:56:46,194
Cambridge Analytica became responsible
854
00:56:46,277 --> 00:56:49,864
of many of the bad things
that were happening in the world.
855
00:56:49,948 --> 00:56:52,409
THE PRESIDENT OF CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA
LOVES TWO THINGS:
856
00:56:52,492 --> 00:56:54,994
EXPENSIVE CEILING CHANDELIERS
AND RUIN THE WORLD
857
00:56:55,078 --> 00:56:57,622
Are you saying
Cambridge Analytica is lying?
858
00:56:57,705 --> 00:57:00,417
They intentionally misrepresent the truth.
859
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:02,168
What evidence do you have?
860
00:57:02,794 --> 00:57:04,087
I was there.
861
00:57:05,463 --> 00:57:08,133
Chris Wylie spoke with great authority
862
00:57:08,216 --> 00:57:11,094
about what had happened
at Cambridge Analytica and SCL
863
00:57:11,177 --> 00:57:14,013
in 2015 and 2016,
864
00:57:14,097 --> 00:57:17,267
years in which he was never there.
865
00:57:18,518 --> 00:57:22,939
He had worked for the company
for nine months, left in 2014.
866
00:57:23,231 --> 00:57:28,153
He then presented his services
for the Trump campaign
867
00:57:28,820 --> 00:57:31,281
and we earned it.
868
00:57:34,075 --> 00:57:37,162
Chris Wylie set out to
to ruin the company.
869
00:57:39,914 --> 00:57:41,082
What about Brittany?
870
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,715
I don't know what Brittany was doing.
871
00:57:54,345 --> 00:57:56,014
Brittany was a person who
872
00:57:56,931 --> 00:57:59,934
I considered her a friend.
Alexander considered her a friend.
873
00:58:01,478 --> 00:58:02,479
But well...
874
00:58:04,063 --> 00:58:06,399
...when the world turns
upside down...
875
00:58:07,859 --> 00:58:11,696
...people behave in different
in different ways.
876
00:58:12,864 --> 00:58:15,450
Maybe they don't even understand
877
00:58:16,284 --> 00:58:18,077
why they do what they do.
878
00:58:24,959 --> 00:58:28,713
I strongly recommend
preparing the declarations.
879
00:58:30,215 --> 00:58:32,217
Let's review the emails together.
880
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:35,637
Maybe we can review other things
and discuss what's out there.
881
00:58:37,472 --> 00:58:39,557
Oh, my goodness. I have the whole agenda.
882
00:58:41,226 --> 00:58:42,227
Shit.
883
00:58:43,269 --> 00:58:45,813
- The whole agenda?
- I have the whole agenda.
884
00:58:46,022 --> 00:58:47,273
My goodness.
885
00:58:47,565 --> 00:58:48,483
Downloaded?
886
00:58:48,566 --> 00:58:52,028
I didn't think it was as a link.
887
00:58:52,278 --> 00:58:53,363
It is incredible.
888
00:58:53,446 --> 00:58:55,990
I can do a complete chronology.
889
00:58:56,074 --> 00:58:57,158
That would be nice.
890
00:58:57,700 --> 00:58:59,160
Fuck, look at this.
891
00:59:01,037 --> 00:59:02,497
September 2015.
892
00:59:04,916 --> 00:59:06,626
U.S. Chamber of Commerce....
893
00:59:07,293 --> 00:59:08,211
Meeting at...
894
00:59:08,336 --> 00:59:09,796
MARKETING
895
00:59:09,879 --> 00:59:11,214
PRESENTATION AT THE NRA
896
00:59:11,297 --> 00:59:14,092
Leave.EU. Review.
897
00:59:14,175 --> 00:59:15,009
It's all there.
898
00:59:15,093 --> 00:59:17,595
I know exactly when it all happened.
899
00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:19,055
At every moment.
900
00:59:23,393 --> 00:59:25,019
I didn't know I had so much.
901
00:59:25,687 --> 00:59:27,021
I have much more,
902
00:59:27,105 --> 00:59:30,108
but that's what I sent,
what seemed worthwhile.
903
00:59:36,155 --> 00:59:38,575
Did you have a chance to review everything?
904
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:41,077
Almost everything. I will check more things today.
905
00:59:44,664 --> 00:59:47,041
Let's take a look at one of the presentations.
906
00:59:47,917 --> 00:59:49,335
"Political CA".
907
00:59:52,171 --> 00:59:53,339
What is this?
908
00:59:54,257 --> 00:59:55,592
It's crazy.
909
00:59:56,301 --> 00:59:57,468
DATA SETS US APART
910
00:59:57,510 --> 01:00:02,515
This is a list of
of the main data sources.
911
01:00:04,058 --> 01:00:05,101
And look!
912
01:00:05,184 --> 01:00:08,271
You have the data feeds
of 30 million people!
913
01:00:08,354 --> 01:00:09,856
It says so right there!
914
01:00:09,939 --> 01:00:11,608
Fuck!
915
01:00:12,108 --> 01:00:13,401
My goodness.
916
01:00:14,152 --> 01:00:16,571
Created on February 4, 2016.
917
01:00:16,654 --> 01:00:19,324
It was after we told
Facebook that we deleted that.
918
01:00:21,075 --> 01:00:23,036
They are the 30 million people
919
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:26,205
whose data we obtained from Prof. Kogan.
Professor Kogan.
920
01:00:26,289 --> 01:00:27,498
There it is.
921
01:00:28,041 --> 01:00:31,794
And here he acknowledges:
"The data sets us apart.
922
01:00:32,712 --> 01:00:36,174
because we collect the data
data from people, and others don't.
923
01:00:37,967 --> 01:00:38,801
Fuck.
924
01:00:45,558 --> 01:00:47,852
I had forgotten about that.
925
01:00:48,895 --> 01:00:50,647
There are a lot of things.
926
01:00:55,485 --> 01:00:56,736
WHO WE ARE
927
01:00:56,819 --> 01:00:59,864
SALES PRESENTATION
CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA SALES PRESENTATION
928
01:00:59,947 --> 01:01:02,033
BRITTANY COMPUTER
929
01:01:02,241 --> 01:01:04,243
...what we intend to do as a firm.
930
01:01:04,327 --> 01:01:06,788
We are a behavior
behavioral change agency.
931
01:01:07,830 --> 01:01:10,917
The holy grail of communications is
932
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,086
begin to modify behavior.
933
01:01:15,588 --> 01:01:18,633
Trinidad is an interesting case
934
01:01:18,716 --> 01:01:20,218
how we evaluate problems.
935
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,682
There are two main political parties,
936
01:01:26,057 --> 01:01:28,226
one for the blacks
and another for the indigenous people.
937
01:01:28,309 --> 01:01:30,353
And they screw each other.
938
01:01:30,436 --> 01:01:33,064
So we work for the indigenous people.
939
01:01:34,399 --> 01:01:37,985
We went to the client and said:
"We want young people as a target."
940
01:01:38,069 --> 01:01:42,365
And we try to increase indifference.
941
01:01:44,325 --> 01:01:47,704
The campaign was not political
because the kids are not interested.
942
01:01:47,787 --> 01:01:50,748
It had to be reactive because they are lazy.
943
01:01:51,499 --> 01:01:54,961
So we thought of this campaign:
944
01:01:55,044 --> 01:01:57,171
"Be part of the gang.
Do something cool.
945
01:01:57,255 --> 01:01:58,423
Be part of a movement.
946
01:01:58,756 --> 01:02:00,967
And the campaign was called "Do it!".
947
01:02:01,676 --> 01:02:02,969
It means: "I will not vote".
948
01:02:03,219 --> 01:02:04,887
"Do it! Don't vote!".
949
01:02:07,974 --> 01:02:09,726
The tribute of the resistance
950
01:02:09,976 --> 01:02:12,729
who knows all of Trinidad and Tobago.
951
01:02:13,396 --> 01:02:15,481
Do it!
952
01:02:16,566 --> 01:02:17,608
Do it!
953
01:02:18,776 --> 01:02:21,988
It is a symbol of resistance
not against the government
954
01:02:22,071 --> 01:02:24,490
but against politics and suffrage.
955
01:02:24,949 --> 01:02:28,745
- Do it, do it
- Yes, do it
956
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,164
They make their videos for YouTube.
957
01:02:31,247 --> 01:02:34,667
That's the graffiti they do
on the prime minister's house.
958
01:02:34,751 --> 01:02:36,502
It was a hecatomb.
959
01:02:38,087 --> 01:02:41,048
We knew that when it came to
to vote,
960
01:02:41,382 --> 01:02:44,177
Afro-Caribbean kids would not,
961
01:02:44,260 --> 01:02:45,261
for the "Do it!".
962
01:02:45,344 --> 01:02:48,973
But the indigenous children
would do what their parents told them to do,
963
01:02:49,390 --> 01:02:50,641
that is: going to vote.
964
01:02:51,434 --> 01:02:53,478
They had a lot of fun with this,
965
01:02:53,561 --> 01:02:56,397
but they will not contradict
their parents.
966
01:02:56,481 --> 01:02:59,317
IN THE ELECTIONS, THE UNITED NATIONS CONGRESS
CONGRESS ADDED SIX SEATS
967
01:03:00,610 --> 01:03:05,072
I thank God for the guidance
that led us to this victory.
968
01:03:05,156 --> 01:03:07,492
Thank you. Thank you, God.
969
01:03:07,575 --> 01:03:12,663
The difference in participation
The difference in participation in the 18-35 years age group was 40%.
970
01:03:13,498 --> 01:03:16,209
This influenced the election by 6%,
971
01:03:16,292 --> 01:03:19,253
which was what we needed
in such a close election.
972
01:03:22,298 --> 01:03:28,179
We now run ten national campaigns
per year for prime minister or president.
973
01:03:28,763 --> 01:03:30,181
We are working in Malaysia.
974
01:03:31,057 --> 01:03:34,602
We did Lithuania, Romania, Kenya, Ghana.
975
01:03:35,228 --> 01:03:37,104
- Quite a few this year.
- Nigeria.
976
01:03:37,522 --> 01:03:40,650
- The Brexit campaign?
- Yes, that one too.
977
01:03:41,317 --> 01:03:42,902
We don't talk about that.
978
01:03:42,985 --> 01:03:44,278
We won.
979
01:03:50,243 --> 01:03:52,745
Are you worried that she will let you down?
980
01:03:56,541 --> 01:03:57,542
Look...
981
01:04:06,843 --> 01:04:08,135
Good question.
982
01:04:10,471 --> 01:04:13,975
I know she is complicated....
983
01:04:15,268 --> 01:04:16,269
...and that...
984
01:04:18,563 --> 01:04:20,898
...has done complicated things.
985
01:04:23,776 --> 01:04:26,529
I believe one can redeem oneself.
986
01:04:29,740 --> 01:04:35,204
I believe in individual redemption
and in collective social redemption.
987
01:04:35,997 --> 01:04:39,041
I am an idealist.
I believe we can repair what is broken
988
01:04:40,376 --> 01:04:42,837
and, at the same time,
989
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,715
I am a realist
and I know that not everything can be repaired.
990
01:04:46,716 --> 01:04:49,051
Some things break
and are not repaired.
991
01:04:54,682 --> 01:04:57,018
Good morning, welcome
to this new session
992
01:04:57,101 --> 01:05:00,104
of the Digital, Culture, Media and Sports Commission
and Sports.
993
01:05:00,187 --> 01:05:02,189
We are pleased to welcome Brittany Kaiser
994
01:05:02,273 --> 01:05:04,442
who will testify before the committee today.
995
01:05:05,276 --> 01:05:09,739
There was contact between Facebook
and Cambridge Analytica
996
01:05:09,822 --> 01:05:14,994
on the use of data, I believe,
in 2015.
997
01:05:15,286 --> 01:05:18,080
Were you aware of it at the time?
at the time?
998
01:05:19,206 --> 01:05:21,876
Facebook had announced
to all its customers
999
01:05:21,959 --> 01:05:25,880
that they were going to close their access
to that data,
1000
01:05:25,963 --> 01:05:27,673
then we agreed to delete them,
1001
01:05:27,757 --> 01:05:31,010
but in March 2016,
1002
01:05:31,093 --> 01:05:33,304
six to eight weeks later,
1003
01:05:33,387 --> 01:05:37,141
our data manager said
that those data sources were deleted.
1004
01:05:37,224 --> 01:05:40,227
I got an email
from one of our data scientists
1005
01:05:40,311 --> 01:05:44,941
where it says that we used the data
from the "likes".
1006
01:05:46,651 --> 01:05:48,903
That seems very strange to me...
1007
01:05:48,986 --> 01:05:51,072
Had Facebook's data feeds
Facebook data feeds,
1008
01:05:51,155 --> 01:05:53,491
How come we were still using them in March?
1009
01:05:54,951 --> 01:05:57,536
Ms. Kaiser, you've gone from being
an idealistic intern
1010
01:05:57,620 --> 01:05:59,538
of Barack Obama's campaign
1011
01:05:59,622 --> 01:06:03,501
to work for an organization
with undesirable people.
1012
01:06:04,043 --> 01:06:07,421
He made presentations
for far-right political parties.
1013
01:06:07,755 --> 01:06:09,632
That didn't bother you at all?
1014
01:06:09,966 --> 01:06:15,763
Yes, I would say that it is correct
to question those ethics.
1015
01:06:15,930 --> 01:06:19,433
But I was offered presentations
1016
01:06:19,517 --> 01:06:21,811
before clients to whom I had previously
I had refused,
1017
01:06:21,894 --> 01:06:25,940
such as Alternative for Germany and the campaign for Marine Le Pen.
and the campaign for Marine Le Pen.
1018
01:06:26,065 --> 01:06:29,068
I refused to even talk on the phone.
1019
01:06:30,236 --> 01:06:33,197
- Not with the Independence Party?
- No.
1020
01:06:35,116 --> 01:06:38,869
Did you make a presentation
for the launch of Leave.EU?
1021
01:06:38,953 --> 01:06:39,996
Yes.
1022
01:06:40,663 --> 01:06:42,873
She must have been disappointed
1023
01:06:42,957 --> 01:06:45,459
when he subsequently
did not work for them, right?
1024
01:06:45,835 --> 01:06:48,713
After that day, we didn't work for them
work for them anymore.
1025
01:06:48,796 --> 01:06:50,214
Then he had worked.
1026
01:06:50,297 --> 01:06:52,633
What kind of work had he done?
1027
01:06:52,717 --> 01:06:53,968
We had received
1028
01:06:54,051 --> 01:06:57,680
Independence Party data and survey data.
and survey data.
1029
01:06:57,763 --> 01:07:03,352
You are contradicting a lot
what Nix said earlier.
1030
01:07:03,436 --> 01:07:05,938
He has made it very clear that, in his case,
1031
01:07:06,022 --> 01:07:10,234
worked on the campaign,
but was not paid.
1032
01:07:10,317 --> 01:07:11,819
He made that clear.
1033
01:07:12,862 --> 01:07:14,739
To make it clear to us,
1034
01:07:14,822 --> 01:07:16,615
for the purposes of this space,
1035
01:07:16,699 --> 01:07:18,951
how much data should be
1036
01:07:19,035 --> 01:07:22,163
so that they can then be used
to create a base
1037
01:07:22,246 --> 01:07:24,999
that targets an entire country
in terms of a vote?
1038
01:07:25,082 --> 01:07:27,918
I am not a data scientist,
I cannot give you a minimum
1039
01:07:28,002 --> 01:07:29,879
of data points required,
1040
01:07:29,962 --> 01:07:32,673
but I do know that your selection tool
1041
01:07:32,757 --> 01:07:36,594
was controlled by the British government,
1042
01:07:36,677 --> 01:07:39,930
which would mean that the methodology
was considered a weapon.
1043
01:07:40,431 --> 01:07:43,267
Communication tactics for military use.
1044
01:07:43,350 --> 01:07:46,896
The proposal was that Leave.EU
to use what you call
1045
01:07:46,979 --> 01:07:50,858
military-use communication tactics against the UK population?
against the population of the United Kingdom?
1046
01:07:51,901 --> 01:07:53,736
- Yes, sir.
- That's crazy.
1047
01:07:54,236 --> 01:07:56,989
I want your point of view.
1048
01:07:57,073 --> 01:08:01,368
What should legislators do to protect people's data?
to protect people's data?
1049
01:08:01,827 --> 01:08:04,413
I'm glad you asked.
1050
01:08:04,497 --> 01:08:05,956
Think about it.
1051
01:08:06,207 --> 01:08:08,459
The unique value of Google and Facebook
1052
01:08:08,793 --> 01:08:12,046
is to own and own, to keep and use
1053
01:08:12,129 --> 01:08:14,840
the personal data of people
around the world.
1054
01:08:14,965 --> 01:08:17,802
I think the best way forward
1055
01:08:17,885 --> 01:08:21,180
is for people to be the absolute owners
of their data.
1056
01:08:22,181 --> 01:08:23,933
- Thank you.
- Thank you, Chairman.
1057
01:08:24,016 --> 01:08:26,602
That concludes today's questions.
1058
01:08:26,685 --> 01:08:27,978
Before logging out,
1059
01:08:28,062 --> 01:08:30,981
I must make a brief announcement
about Alexander Nix.
1060
01:08:31,065 --> 01:08:34,193
He is not in a position to testify
before the Commission tomorrow
1061
01:08:34,276 --> 01:08:37,321
as you have received
a notice to appear
1062
01:08:37,404 --> 01:08:39,448
and will be subject to criminal investigation
1063
01:08:39,532 --> 01:08:41,617
by the Office of the Information
Information Commissioner.
1064
01:08:41,742 --> 01:08:44,036
I hope to be able to provide more information
1065
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,413
on the subject next week. Thank you.
1066
01:08:46,872 --> 01:08:47,790
Thank you.
1067
01:08:48,541 --> 01:08:49,542
Shit!
1068
01:08:51,043 --> 01:08:52,628
The hearing is over.
1069
01:08:52,670 --> 01:08:53,629
That's right!
1070
01:09:11,730 --> 01:09:13,566
Alexander sent me a message.
1071
01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:17,194
Alexander Nix.
1072
01:09:20,447 --> 01:09:21,615
What did he say?
1073
01:09:22,366 --> 01:09:25,619
"Well done, Britt.
You looked tough and you were great."
1074
01:09:26,620 --> 01:09:29,540
With a winking emoji.
1075
01:09:31,167 --> 01:09:33,794
I feel sorry for him. You know what I mean?
1076
01:09:33,878 --> 01:09:37,631
He was not unhappy with me
for three and a half years.
1077
01:09:38,132 --> 01:09:42,261
He was kind to you for three and a half years
to do what he wanted.
1078
01:09:42,344 --> 01:09:45,181
Yes, but it's fun.
1079
01:09:48,434 --> 01:09:49,310
Hello, Justin.
1080
01:09:49,810 --> 01:09:51,896
How are you? What did you think?
1081
01:09:51,979 --> 01:09:52,897
DAVID'S COLLEAGUE
1082
01:09:52,980 --> 01:09:55,441
I am processing it.
It was a lot of revelations.
1083
01:09:57,443 --> 01:10:00,821
SCL must present its defense
by the end of the month.
1084
01:10:01,614 --> 01:10:04,200
It will be very interesting to see
1085
01:10:04,283 --> 01:10:07,328
what they can do after this.
1086
01:10:07,828 --> 01:10:08,871
That's right.
1087
01:10:10,164 --> 01:10:11,123
Shit!
1088
01:10:11,207 --> 01:10:15,753
She said that psychographic data
should be considered a weapon.
1089
01:10:20,216 --> 01:10:23,552
It seems that Kaiser has moral limits.
1090
01:10:26,805 --> 01:10:31,936
But she well knows
that she was inside a very dark world
1091
01:10:32,353 --> 01:10:33,938
and did not turn away.
1092
01:10:34,021 --> 01:10:37,024
And she was involved in that a couple of times.
1093
01:10:37,107 --> 01:10:38,192
Yes.
1094
01:10:42,196 --> 01:10:45,908
You worked for a man
who, after meeting you, said to you:
1095
01:10:46,033 --> 01:10:48,452
"I'll get you drunk
to steal your secrets."
1096
01:10:48,911 --> 01:10:51,372
He knew what kind of company he worked for.
1097
01:10:51,997 --> 01:10:54,208
I don't know. I guess I trusted him.
1098
01:10:54,500 --> 01:10:59,171
I worked for him for three and a half years.
He was my mentor and friend.
1099
01:10:59,505 --> 01:11:01,590
He just sent me a message,
1100
01:11:01,674 --> 01:11:05,010
even though I haven't spoken to him for over a month
I haven't spoken to him in over a month.
1101
01:11:05,135 --> 01:11:06,553
He was watching her.
1102
01:11:06,679 --> 01:11:08,222
- That's right.
- What did he tell you?
1103
01:11:09,014 --> 01:11:12,434
He told me that he felt me hard,
but that I did a good job.
1104
01:11:12,559 --> 01:11:14,520
- Did you answer?
- No.
1105
01:11:14,645 --> 01:11:15,813
Will you respond?
1106
01:11:16,021 --> 01:11:18,482
I do not think it is advisable at this time.
1107
01:11:18,607 --> 01:11:20,859
Then there is no friendship, is there?
1108
01:11:21,777 --> 01:11:27,658
Now I question
how true that friendship was.
1109
01:11:49,763 --> 01:11:52,141
I recognize Brittany's merit in...
1110
01:11:52,433 --> 01:11:56,312
I am surprised to see how many people
don't open their mouths.
1111
01:12:01,233 --> 01:12:03,485
My jaw dropped
1112
01:12:03,569 --> 01:12:08,365
when Brittany said
that it was military-grade technology.
1113
01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:11,994
And that it was illegal to use it
1114
01:12:12,077 --> 01:12:14,288
without authorization from the British government.
1115
01:12:18,083 --> 01:12:19,460
They are PSYOPS.
1116
01:12:20,878 --> 01:12:24,131
PSYOPS stands for psychological operations.
1117
01:12:24,214 --> 01:12:27,843
It is a term used by the military
1118
01:12:27,926 --> 01:12:32,431
to describe what is done in a war
in a war that is not a war.
1119
01:12:32,514 --> 01:12:36,602
Fundamentally, in a place like Afghanistan
like Afghanistan, you have a choice.
1120
01:12:36,685 --> 01:12:38,562
Or blow a village to pieces
1121
01:12:38,645 --> 01:12:42,941
or you try to use techniques
to convince them
1122
01:12:43,025 --> 01:12:46,528
that "the Taliban are bad
and will be better off without them.
1123
01:12:50,949 --> 01:12:53,869
SCL started as a military contractor.
1124
01:12:54,286 --> 01:12:56,038
SCL Defense.
1125
01:12:57,039 --> 01:13:00,417
We have a fairly large defense business.
business.
1126
01:13:01,668 --> 01:13:03,837
We train the British Army,
the British Navy,
1127
01:13:03,921 --> 01:13:05,464
U.S. Army,
U.S. Special Forces
1128
01:13:05,547 --> 01:13:09,009
We train NATO, the CIA,
the State Department, the Pentagon.
1129
01:13:09,551 --> 01:13:15,099
Research is used to influence the behavior of a hostile
the behavior of a hostile public.
1130
01:13:15,641 --> 01:13:20,646
How do you convince Muslim males
from 14 to 30 years old
1131
01:13:20,729 --> 01:13:22,356
not to join Al-Qaeda?
1132
01:13:23,232 --> 01:13:25,484
With a communication war.
1133
01:13:27,444 --> 01:13:31,115
They have worked in Afghanistan.
1134
01:13:31,198 --> 01:13:34,576
They have worked in several places
Eastern Europe.
1135
01:13:34,993 --> 01:13:37,871
But what changed the rules of the game
1136
01:13:37,955 --> 01:13:42,709
is that they resorted to information
information warfare for the elections.
1137
01:13:44,002 --> 01:13:47,506
There is a lot of overlap
because it is the same methodology.
1138
01:13:50,676 --> 01:13:55,180
In all Cambridge Analytica/SCL
Cambridge Analytica/SCL
1139
01:13:55,264 --> 01:13:57,599
for developing countries,
1140
01:13:57,766 --> 01:14:01,854
resorted to the practice
of some trick or new technology.
1141
01:14:02,312 --> 01:14:04,106
How to convince people.
1142
01:14:04,189 --> 01:14:07,943
How to avoid participation
or how to increase participation.
1143
01:14:10,654 --> 01:14:14,533
And then he continues: "We already know how it is.
Let's use it in Britain and the U.S.".
1144
01:14:18,370 --> 01:14:21,623
HIDDEN CAMERA
1145
01:14:23,041 --> 01:14:25,627
- Did you meet with Mr. Trump?
- Many times.
1146
01:14:25,836 --> 01:14:28,255
We did all the research,
all the data,
1147
01:14:28,338 --> 01:14:30,716
all the analysis, all the selection,
1148
01:14:30,799 --> 01:14:32,759
we did the digital campaign,
1149
01:14:32,843 --> 01:14:34,303
the television campaign,
1150
01:14:34,803 --> 01:14:36,930
and the data gave us the strategy.
1151
01:14:38,474 --> 01:14:41,101
The brand was.
"Let's defeat corrupt Hillary."
1152
01:14:41,185 --> 01:14:42,853
You remember, don't you?
1153
01:14:43,437 --> 01:14:44,688
"Corrupt Hillary."
1154
01:14:44,980 --> 01:14:49,151
and the two O's in "crooked" were a pair of wives.
were a pair of handcuffs.
1155
01:14:50,569 --> 01:14:52,613
- It was to make her look like...
- Prey.
1156
01:14:52,696 --> 01:14:55,115
- "He should be behind bars."
- And you created him?
1157
01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:57,659
"Let's defeat corrupt Hillary." Yes.
1158
01:14:57,743 --> 01:15:00,621
And then we did productions...
1159
01:15:01,413 --> 01:15:03,832
Hundreds of different productions,
1160
01:15:03,916 --> 01:15:05,417
and upload them to the Internet,
1161
01:15:05,709 --> 01:15:07,377
We put information
1162
01:15:07,461 --> 01:15:11,381
to circulate on the Internet
1163
01:15:11,465 --> 01:15:14,176
and watched it grow.
1164
01:15:14,718 --> 01:15:19,223
All this infiltrates the networks
1165
01:15:19,306 --> 01:15:22,643
and expands, but without a brand.
1166
01:15:22,726 --> 01:15:25,646
It cannot be attributed to anyone
nor can it be traced.
1167
01:15:27,147 --> 01:15:28,440
In my opinion,
1168
01:15:29,608 --> 01:15:32,569
if you are unable to manage your home,
1169
01:15:32,778 --> 01:15:35,072
you can't run the White House.
1170
01:15:35,656 --> 01:15:36,657
It is not possible.
1171
01:15:38,158 --> 01:15:41,620
Corrupt Hillary. She is corrupt.
She is most corrupt.
1172
01:15:41,703 --> 01:15:43,413
Let her go to jail!
1173
01:15:43,497 --> 01:15:45,415
That's right. She must go to jail.
1174
01:15:45,499 --> 01:15:47,251
Let her go to jail!
1175
01:15:47,584 --> 01:15:49,920
Let her go to jail!
1176
01:15:51,838 --> 01:15:54,424
Let's defeat it in November.
1177
01:15:54,508 --> 01:15:59,346
LET'S DEFEAT CORRUPT HILLARY
1178
01:16:00,639 --> 01:16:07,604
CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA
LET'S DEFEAT CORRUPT HILLARY
1179
01:16:08,146 --> 01:16:12,109
What was your reaction to seeing the hidden camera
on Channel 4?
1180
01:16:13,986 --> 01:16:15,654
No one noticed.
1181
01:16:18,365 --> 01:16:20,492
When we saw the video...
1182
01:16:21,118 --> 01:16:25,872
I saw him in the New York office
with all the staff.
1183
01:16:25,998 --> 01:16:27,916
We knew it would be on the air.
1184
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,210
And I think they were all...
1185
01:16:31,878 --> 01:16:33,046
...shocked.
1186
01:16:35,382 --> 01:16:39,886
Everyone turned away from the screen
and went, silently, to their desks.
1187
01:16:44,182 --> 01:16:45,434
For going on the air...
1188
01:16:45,517 --> 01:16:47,978
Channel 4 News together with The Guardian
and Observer
1189
01:16:48,061 --> 01:16:51,607
Today a hidden camera interview
by Channel 4 News in London,
1190
01:16:51,690 --> 01:16:55,611
shows Cambridge executives,
including Chairman Alexander Nix,
1191
01:16:55,694 --> 01:16:58,030
bragging about Trump's victory.
1192
01:16:58,488 --> 01:17:01,533
This hidden camera series
from Channel 4 News
1193
01:17:01,617 --> 01:17:03,076
Nix was also filmed
1194
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,038
talking about possible bribery and instigation
and instigation of crime.
1195
01:17:06,121 --> 01:17:09,041
Send girls to the candidate's home.
1196
01:17:10,542 --> 01:17:12,753
We have several precedents.
1197
01:17:14,546 --> 01:17:16,632
Mr. Nix, what is your message
1198
01:17:16,715 --> 01:17:19,217
For Cambridge Analytica employees?
1199
01:17:22,012 --> 01:17:24,431
We received statements
from Cambridge Analytica.
1200
01:17:25,932 --> 01:17:29,686
Alexander Nix has been suspended
with immediate effect.
1201
01:17:29,770 --> 01:17:34,232
The company accused of collecting data
of 87 million Facebook users
1202
01:17:34,316 --> 01:17:35,484
says it will close.
1203
01:17:36,068 --> 01:17:40,489
The company says it will file for bankruptcy
in the U.S. and the UK.
1204
01:17:42,574 --> 01:17:44,576
According to critics, Cambridge Analytica
1205
01:17:44,660 --> 01:17:47,496
and SCL Elections will cease operations
1206
01:17:47,579 --> 01:17:51,583
to limit or obstruct
the investigation of the authorities
1207
01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:53,794
and to dispose of evidence.
1208
01:18:02,761 --> 01:18:05,972
Is the Cambridge Analytica scandal
scandal is now the Facebook scandal?
1209
01:18:08,058 --> 01:18:10,018
It is not about a particular company.
1210
01:18:11,436 --> 01:18:16,400
This technology will continue to advance
uninterruptedly.
1211
01:18:17,651 --> 01:18:19,444
But Cambridge Analytica no longer exists.
1212
01:18:20,570 --> 01:18:23,281
In some respects, I feel...
1213
01:18:25,867 --> 01:18:30,038
that due to the rapid advancement of this technology
this technology,
1214
01:18:30,455 --> 01:18:34,543
and because people do not understand
people fail to understand it,
1215
01:18:34,626 --> 01:18:37,045
and because of the concern it generates,
1216
01:18:37,170 --> 01:18:39,965
one way or another there would have been
a Cambridge Analytica.
1217
01:18:40,507 --> 01:18:42,968
It sucks that it was
Cambridge Analytica.
1218
01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:55,564
THE GUARDIAN AND THE OBSERVER
LONDON
1219
01:18:55,772 --> 01:18:57,649
After dealing with the threats
1220
01:18:57,733 --> 01:19:00,277
Cambridge Analytica for one year,
1221
01:19:01,069 --> 01:19:03,363
what made our heads explode
1222
01:19:03,447 --> 01:19:07,075
was the day before publication,
upon receiving a letter from Facebook.
1223
01:19:07,159 --> 01:19:10,245
It seemed that they wanted to cow us.
1224
01:19:10,328 --> 01:19:14,499
It did not seem to me to be a legitimate response.
1225
01:19:14,583 --> 01:19:18,420
And one wonders why a company
of such magnitude
1226
01:19:18,545 --> 01:19:20,130
British lawyers.
1227
01:19:20,213 --> 01:19:22,382
It was an aggressive threat,
1228
01:19:22,466 --> 01:19:24,259
for which... Did they apologize?
1229
01:19:24,342 --> 01:19:26,178
Yes, they said they were not in a good moment.
1230
01:19:27,220 --> 01:19:29,473
Yes, and up to that point,
1231
01:19:29,556 --> 01:19:31,808
it seemed that the tech giants were still
were still
1232
01:19:31,892 --> 01:19:35,312
the good guys who wear sweatshirts
who connect the world.
1233
01:19:35,645 --> 01:19:40,025
And there was a change, the big
technological ones went from being good
1234
01:19:40,108 --> 01:19:44,112
to say they needed to ask questions
1235
01:19:44,196 --> 01:19:46,531
about this and what it means.
1236
01:19:50,118 --> 01:19:51,912
Cambridge Analytica no longer exists.
1237
01:19:52,829 --> 01:19:58,502
But it is important to understand
that Cambridge Analytica
1238
01:19:58,710 --> 01:20:03,381
points to a much bigger story,
more troubling story:
1239
01:20:03,799 --> 01:20:08,637
that have our personal data
and used against us
1240
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,764
in ways we do not understand.
1241
01:20:14,643 --> 01:20:16,520
And if David recovers his data,
1242
01:20:16,853 --> 01:20:19,689
hopefully we can start to get some answers.
to start getting answers.
1243
01:20:22,692 --> 01:20:28,698
Today is the deadline for SCL
to comply with the law and return my data.
1244
01:20:30,617 --> 01:20:35,247
We are on the verge of evasion
or accountability.
1245
01:20:38,500 --> 01:20:39,918
Carole tweeted:
1246
01:20:40,836 --> 01:20:43,672
"Prof. Carroll testifies
before the European Parliament
1247
01:20:43,755 --> 01:20:47,634
the day on which the deadline expires for CA to return the data to you.
to return the data to you.
1248
01:20:47,717 --> 01:20:51,388
Failure to do so,
criminal proceedings will be initiated.
1249
01:20:56,142 --> 01:20:58,728
"Hello, Ravi, is there any word?".
1250
01:21:00,272 --> 01:21:01,273
"Not yet."
1251
01:21:07,445 --> 01:21:11,741
I am waiting to hear from my lawyer
and we still don't know anything.
1252
01:21:11,825 --> 01:21:14,244
So they did not respect the regulator.
1253
01:21:14,327 --> 01:21:16,788
They are not respecting the law.
1254
01:21:17,289 --> 01:21:19,583
Now that a criminal proceeding will be initiated,
1255
01:21:19,749 --> 01:21:21,501
we do not know what will happen.
1256
01:21:22,752 --> 01:21:26,298
And I will move on,
1257
01:21:26,381 --> 01:21:30,051
because its model could affect
the population,
1258
01:21:30,135 --> 01:21:33,805
even if it was to a minimal sector,
because in the U.S.
1259
01:21:34,139 --> 01:21:39,227
barely 70,000 voters in three states decided
decided the election.
1260
01:21:42,230 --> 01:21:45,317
Thank you very much, Professor Carroll.
1261
01:21:45,567 --> 01:21:46,651
Mr. Batten.
1262
01:21:47,277 --> 01:21:51,114
My question is for Carole Cadwallard
from The Guardian.
1263
01:21:51,197 --> 01:21:55,911
Does The Guardian have a politically partisan
politically partisan view on the issue
1264
01:21:56,036 --> 01:21:59,873
in its intention to collaborate
by all means
1265
01:21:59,956 --> 01:22:03,084
to reverse the outcome of the referendum?
1266
01:22:05,420 --> 01:22:10,258
This is not a partisan issue.
I couldn't be more definitive about it.
1267
01:22:10,342 --> 01:22:14,346
It is about the integrity
of our democracy.
1268
01:22:14,429 --> 01:22:17,057
It is about our national sovereignty.
1269
01:22:17,599 --> 01:22:21,061
And I would like to believe that both
are also of interest to you.
1270
01:22:24,189 --> 01:22:28,234
I believe that we urgently need
we need more information
1271
01:22:28,318 --> 01:22:31,071
for we do not know
how they chose their targets
1272
01:22:31,154 --> 01:22:33,782
and on what type of data they were based.
1273
01:22:34,157 --> 01:22:40,789
One thing we do know is that Facebook
has not collaborated in any way
1274
01:22:40,872 --> 01:22:43,708
with the British Parliament
in the investigation of the issue.
1275
01:22:44,125 --> 01:22:48,588
You really should look higher
1276
01:22:48,672 --> 01:22:50,799
and see what is important here,
1277
01:22:50,882 --> 01:22:53,468
see the big picture
and the risks for all of us.
1278
01:23:04,729 --> 01:23:08,024
Roger, although Facebook has not violated
any laws,
1279
01:23:08,108 --> 01:23:12,320
have they violated the moral trust
with their consumers?
1280
01:23:12,404 --> 01:23:14,197
With me, yes.
1281
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:18,743
For three months, since October 2016,
I have tried to say:
1282
01:23:18,827 --> 01:23:22,455
"Guys, I think you kill democracy.
You will ruin your business."
1283
01:23:22,580 --> 01:23:24,833
- Hi, I'm Roger.
- Hi, how are you?
1284
01:23:24,916 --> 01:23:26,668
- It's a pleasure to meet you.
- Likewise.
1285
01:23:26,835 --> 01:23:31,131
Facebook is designed to monopolize
to monopolize attention.
1286
01:23:31,589 --> 01:23:34,634
They take the basic gimmicks of propaganda
1287
01:23:34,718 --> 01:23:37,053
and combine them with those of gambling
in casinos.
1288
01:23:37,137 --> 01:23:38,847
Like slot machines.
1289
01:23:39,305 --> 01:23:43,977
Basically, they play on instincts.
1290
01:23:44,227 --> 01:23:47,647
Fear and anger are the two most serious
serious ways to do it.
1291
01:23:47,856 --> 01:23:50,525
They then created a series of tools
1292
01:23:50,608 --> 01:23:56,197
to enable advertisers to tap into
to tap into that emotional audience
1293
01:23:57,115 --> 01:24:00,326
with an individual approach.
1294
01:24:00,410 --> 01:24:05,623
There are 2.1 billion people
with a reality of their own.
1295
01:24:05,874 --> 01:24:10,879
And when everyone has their own reality,
it's easy to manipulate them.
1296
01:24:11,504 --> 01:24:16,926
And the other thing is
that they know they're tearing me apart
1297
01:24:17,635 --> 01:24:20,013
with criticisms
of what I consider my work.
1298
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,809
It's easier to say, "I won't think about it."
1299
01:24:24,934 --> 01:24:25,810
Yes.
1300
01:24:26,019 --> 01:24:31,024
But life tests us
several times, doesn't it?
1301
01:24:31,608 --> 01:24:33,026
For me it was decisive.
1302
01:24:33,109 --> 01:24:37,405
Either I did something about it
or I did nothing at all.
1303
01:24:37,906 --> 01:24:40,366
This has my fingerprints on it.
1304
01:24:41,076 --> 01:24:43,286
I mean, I felt very guilty.
1305
01:24:44,662 --> 01:24:47,207
And I wanted to be able to...
1306
01:24:48,416 --> 01:24:49,709
...to quiet my conscience.
1307
01:25:09,229 --> 01:25:11,689
One of the things that surprised me
1308
01:25:12,190 --> 01:25:15,318
was what happened to you,
1309
01:25:15,401 --> 01:25:17,403
Obama's people and Hillary's people.
1310
01:25:19,697 --> 01:25:22,158
None of them offered to pay me.
1311
01:25:23,576 --> 01:25:27,622
And when your family loses all their money
1312
01:25:27,705 --> 01:25:30,458
and loses his home
1313
01:25:30,542 --> 01:25:33,211
and when your father
who brings home the bread,
1314
01:25:33,294 --> 01:25:35,797
he undergoes brain surgery
and can no longer work,
1315
01:25:36,214 --> 01:25:38,925
you must work for those who pay you.
1316
01:25:42,303 --> 01:25:45,265
Did your family lose all its money in 2008?
1317
01:25:45,682 --> 01:25:49,811
Yes, but it took time for everything to fall apart.
1318
01:25:52,105 --> 01:25:56,776
We lost the house in 2014
when I started working in Cambridge.
1319
01:26:09,414 --> 01:26:12,375
Alexander Nix appears before the
before the Media Committee,
1320
01:26:12,458 --> 01:26:14,460
after refusing to testify,
1321
01:26:14,544 --> 01:26:17,338
due to the investigations of the company.
1322
01:26:27,307 --> 01:26:29,058
My last time in London,
1323
01:26:29,142 --> 01:26:33,188
I remember considering suing SCL
1324
01:26:34,522 --> 01:26:38,484
and think of the fear it generated in me.
1325
01:26:40,153 --> 01:26:42,572
This committee thanks Alexander Nix
1326
01:26:42,655 --> 01:26:45,408
for agreeing to appear before her again today
before her today
1327
01:26:45,491 --> 01:26:47,243
to answer our questions.
1328
01:26:47,327 --> 01:26:49,120
Now come back here and...
1329
01:26:49,204 --> 01:26:52,457
These guys are out of action and
1330
01:26:52,540 --> 01:26:54,876
the villain is up against the wall.
1331
01:26:57,086 --> 01:26:59,422
Do you have any allies left in the world
1332
01:27:00,131 --> 01:27:02,592
or is everyone against him?
1333
01:27:06,763 --> 01:27:09,891
I would like to
I would like to make a few brief clarifications.
1334
01:27:10,558 --> 01:27:12,560
It will only take me a few minutes.
1335
01:27:12,644 --> 01:27:16,898
But it is important
to be able to formulate my answers.
1336
01:27:17,148 --> 01:27:18,233
He is very nervous.
1337
01:27:18,316 --> 01:27:21,819
Mr. Nix, please answer the questions and then we'll see how it goes.
and then we will see how it goes.
1338
01:27:22,111 --> 01:27:26,449
Generally, I would respect that,
but these are not common circumstances,
1339
01:27:26,532 --> 01:27:30,203
and, if I may, I would like to make
a brief statement
1340
01:27:30,286 --> 01:27:31,829
to establish my position.
1341
01:27:31,913 --> 01:27:34,540
I would prefer to address the issue
according to the question
1342
01:27:34,624 --> 01:27:37,293
instead of listening to a statement
statement at the beginning.
1343
01:27:37,377 --> 01:27:39,587
Mr. Collins, you will have your chance,
1344
01:27:39,671 --> 01:27:43,174
as well as the entire commission,
to ask me whatever you want,
1345
01:27:43,258 --> 01:27:45,134
but I insist that...
1346
01:27:45,218 --> 01:27:46,928
How can you start like this?
1347
01:27:47,011 --> 01:27:48,554
He is not in a position to insist.
1348
01:27:48,638 --> 01:27:51,557
"I accept that some answers
may be clearer...".
1349
01:27:51,808 --> 01:27:54,560
Excuse me, you are reading the statement.
1350
01:27:54,644 --> 01:27:58,189
- Answer the first question.
- Why does it do that?
1351
01:27:59,816 --> 01:28:02,443
- Can you repeat the question?
- Yes, thank you.
1352
01:28:02,527 --> 01:28:05,238
You made a presentation to work
in the referendum
1353
01:28:05,321 --> 01:28:09,534
and I don't want to dig into Leave.EU,
since he made his position clear.
1354
01:28:09,575 --> 01:28:12,912
Those are assumptions, Mr. Farrelly.
1355
01:28:13,162 --> 01:28:16,666
We have or rather I have worked
with this company for 15 years.
1356
01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:20,128
We have never participated
in an election in the United Kingdom.
1357
01:28:22,672 --> 01:28:24,007
This is not true.
1358
01:28:33,850 --> 01:28:37,186
Carole sent me an email.
1359
01:28:37,270 --> 01:28:40,148
You know that I met with Julian Assange
in February.
1360
01:28:42,066 --> 01:28:47,030
You know that I have donated to WikiLeaks
at some point in Bitcoin.
1361
01:28:49,032 --> 01:28:51,826
If you publish something about it today,
you're going to make...
1362
01:28:53,244 --> 01:28:56,247
...my dialogue with my own government
is very difficult.
1363
01:28:56,956 --> 01:28:59,000
It came up in the Brittany Kaiser trials,
1364
01:28:59,334 --> 01:29:02,628
because you told us about Julian Assange
the last time he came
1365
01:29:02,712 --> 01:29:06,049
and said that he tried to access the e-mails
1366
01:29:06,132 --> 01:29:07,675
Julian Assange had,
1367
01:29:08,176 --> 01:29:12,472
Hillary Clinton's emails,
in order to benefit the Trump campaign.
1368
01:29:12,555 --> 01:29:15,224
They were potentially controversial emails,
1369
01:29:15,308 --> 01:29:17,643
and we wanted to understand,
1370
01:29:17,727 --> 01:29:22,565
as well as any journalist and most political
and most political consultants
1371
01:29:22,648 --> 01:29:25,109
of both U.S. parties,
1372
01:29:25,193 --> 01:29:26,778
what they contained.
1373
01:29:26,861 --> 01:29:32,450
I do not believe that this curiosity
is an indication of something vile.
1374
01:29:32,533 --> 01:29:36,245
Oh my goodness. Carole published the article.
1375
01:29:36,287 --> 01:29:38,414
DIRECTOR OF CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA
SPOKE TO ASSANGE ABOUT THE ELECTION
1376
01:29:38,539 --> 01:29:42,585
I didn't talk about the U.S. election!
God, that's crazy!
1377
01:29:43,169 --> 01:29:44,170
Paul!
1378
01:29:44,295 --> 01:29:46,798
- Hello, how are you?
- Paul!
1379
01:29:47,507 --> 01:29:51,469
I told you that everything is coming out in the open
and the question is how...
1380
01:29:51,552 --> 01:29:54,347
I did not conspire to leak
Hillary's emails
1381
01:29:54,430 --> 01:29:58,309
and I have nothing to do with Russia,
so...
1382
01:29:58,393 --> 01:29:59,310
Yes.
1383
01:29:59,435 --> 01:30:00,895
The issue is...
1384
01:30:02,522 --> 01:30:05,233
- ...it looks like I did both.
- Does it?
1385
01:30:05,316 --> 01:30:08,694
If it weren't me, I'd say it looks that way.
1386
01:30:11,114 --> 01:30:12,532
That's why I'm scared.
1387
01:30:12,615 --> 01:30:15,368
There are many people who will never believe me.
1388
01:30:15,910 --> 01:30:18,579
There will be people who won't believe me
until I die.
1389
01:30:18,663 --> 01:30:20,415
It is quite possible.
1390
01:30:21,582 --> 01:30:23,835
- Very possible.
- I know!
1391
01:30:27,380 --> 01:30:28,256
Well...
1392
01:30:29,715 --> 01:30:31,342
I need to get out of here.
1393
01:30:34,846 --> 01:30:37,807
In my opinion,
since it was presented here today,
1394
01:30:37,890 --> 01:30:41,060
has tried to victimize,
1395
01:30:41,686 --> 01:30:46,566
even though you might not remotely
you could be seen as a victim.
1396
01:30:46,858 --> 01:30:50,194
You do realize
that you are not the victim in this, don't you?
1397
01:30:50,945 --> 01:30:52,196
What if it were?
1398
01:30:52,697 --> 01:30:57,076
What if, at the conclusion of some of these
some of these investigations,
1399
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,787
people realize
that they simply
1400
01:31:00,538 --> 01:31:05,084
it was believed that we were the ones
the ones who contributed
1401
01:31:05,168 --> 01:31:06,878
with the Trump campaign
1402
01:31:06,961 --> 01:31:10,923
and unfairly attributed to us
to be the architects of Brexit
1403
01:31:11,549 --> 01:31:15,803
and, as a result of the polarization
of both political campaigns,
1404
01:31:15,887 --> 01:31:18,723
the liberal press in general
was resented,
1405
01:31:18,806 --> 01:31:21,684
put us in the spotlight
1406
01:31:21,767 --> 01:31:26,147
and coordinated an attack on us,
as a company,
1407
01:31:26,230 --> 01:31:29,484
in order to destroy our reputation and our business
and our business,
1408
01:31:29,567 --> 01:31:35,490
and all this was backed up by a series of unfounded accusations
by a series of unfounded accusations
1409
01:31:35,573 --> 01:31:38,034
and without logical support
by Mr. Wylie,
1410
01:31:38,117 --> 01:31:41,787
who gave the media
the ammunition they needed,
1411
01:31:41,871 --> 01:31:43,164
they wanted,
1412
01:31:43,247 --> 01:31:46,417
to attack us for something that,
in the case of Brexit,
1413
01:31:46,501 --> 01:31:47,502
we did not do?
1414
01:31:47,585 --> 01:31:49,504
So you are the victim in this?
1415
01:31:50,922 --> 01:31:54,550
If you were in this place,
you would probably feel
1416
01:31:56,219 --> 01:31:57,470
who is the victim.
1417
01:31:57,887 --> 01:31:59,472
Where the fuck is my passport?
1418
01:32:01,807 --> 01:32:03,601
Not a good day.
1419
01:32:03,851 --> 01:32:05,770
Did I put it somewhere else?
1420
01:32:08,564 --> 01:32:09,565
My goodness.
1421
01:32:10,066 --> 01:32:12,568
I never put it on that site.
1422
01:32:13,194 --> 01:32:15,279
I can't think clearly today.
1423
01:32:19,992 --> 01:32:22,495
I'm nervous. I'm sorry, my friend.
1424
01:32:27,375 --> 01:32:29,252
Coco Mademoiselle makes me feel better.
1425
01:32:30,461 --> 01:32:31,796
At least I smell good.
1426
01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:41,472
I don't know what will happen in the next few days.
1427
01:32:43,015 --> 01:32:46,185
I came back because I wanted to collaborate.
1428
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:48,771
I want to help.
1429
01:32:49,438 --> 01:32:51,691
NEWARK AIRPORT
1430
01:33:10,126 --> 01:33:12,587
Oh,@carolecadwalla you did it again.
1431
01:33:12,670 --> 01:33:15,131
"Cambridge Analytica director spoke
with Assange about the U.S. election."
1432
01:33:15,214 --> 01:33:17,341
Today the Guardian newspaper reports
1433
01:33:17,466 --> 01:33:19,677
that a Cambridge Analytica
Cambridge Analytica executive
1434
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,305
met with Julian Assange of WikiLeaks,
1435
01:33:22,763 --> 01:33:25,933
the body that distributed the documents
the documents stolen by Russia.
1436
01:33:28,102 --> 01:33:31,022
According to her, they discussed the U.S. elections.
U.S. elections.
1437
01:33:31,856 --> 01:33:35,693
Shameful. Mueller, are you listening?
1438
01:33:35,776 --> 01:33:39,697
I think he knows!
1439
01:33:49,457 --> 01:33:52,543
The Mueller investigation called
when I booked the flight
1440
01:33:52,627 --> 01:33:54,920
and decided to summon me.
1441
01:33:56,339 --> 01:34:00,635
We talked to them in a friendly way
and in a spirit of collaboration,
1442
01:34:00,718 --> 01:34:05,097
and then Carole's note totally changed
their opinion of me.
1443
01:34:06,515 --> 01:34:09,268
And yes, I...
1444
01:34:10,144 --> 01:34:12,480
worked at Cambridge Analytica,
1445
01:34:12,563 --> 01:34:15,232
when they had the data feeds from Facebook.
Facebook data feeds.
1446
01:34:16,359 --> 01:34:17,902
And, well, I...
1447
01:34:19,487 --> 01:34:22,782
...I went to Russia once
when I was working for Cambridge.
1448
01:34:23,157 --> 01:34:25,743
I visited Julian Assange
when he worked for Cambridge.
1449
01:34:25,910 --> 01:34:27,787
I once donated to WikiLeaks.
1450
01:34:27,870 --> 01:34:32,249
I introduced the Trump campaign
and drafted the first contract.
1451
01:34:33,167 --> 01:34:35,961
All this makes me look like
that I am
1452
01:34:36,420 --> 01:34:40,049
in the midst of great madness.
1453
01:34:41,175 --> 01:34:44,095
And I see it, and I cannot refute it.
1454
01:34:46,013 --> 01:34:49,225
I will have to reconsider
the way I did everything
1455
01:34:49,308 --> 01:34:50,643
in recent years.
1456
01:35:04,990 --> 01:35:08,452
This is a note that we have not yet published.
1457
01:35:08,536 --> 01:35:11,288
Discusses all investigations
1458
01:35:11,372 --> 01:35:16,043
that have been initiated in Great Britain and the U.S. since this story broke.
since this story broke.
1459
01:35:16,127 --> 01:35:19,588
So there is an FBI investigation,
1460
01:35:19,672 --> 01:35:22,591
of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission
Securities and Exchange Commission,
1461
01:35:22,717 --> 01:35:24,176
of the Department of Justice,
1462
01:35:24,260 --> 01:35:25,845
by Robert Mueller,
1463
01:35:25,928 --> 01:35:28,472
of the Senate Intelligence Committee
of the Senate,
1464
01:35:28,556 --> 01:35:31,016
of the House Judiciary and Intelligence
and Intelligence Committee.
1465
01:35:31,100 --> 01:35:34,687
And these are the current investigations
connected with Great Britain.
1466
01:35:36,063 --> 01:35:38,190
ACCORDING TO CONGRESSMEN, FACEBOOK MUST
COMBAT FAKE NEWS WITH LAWS
1467
01:35:38,274 --> 01:35:41,277
Parliament spent 18 months investigating.
1468
01:35:42,445 --> 01:35:44,447
All these witnesses were subpoenaed.
1469
01:35:48,242 --> 01:35:51,829
And, at the end, your report clearly states:
1470
01:35:51,954 --> 01:35:54,457
"Our electoral laws are not fit."
1471
01:35:54,540 --> 01:35:56,333
British electoral law
was not suitable
1472
01:35:56,417 --> 01:36:00,254
We literally cannot have
fair and free elections in this country.
1473
01:36:01,839 --> 01:36:04,508
And we can't have them
because of Facebook.
1474
01:36:04,967 --> 01:36:08,846
Because of the technological giants
that are still totally unpunished.
1475
01:36:08,929 --> 01:36:10,598
ON FACEBOOK ARE "DIGITAL GANGSTERS".
1476
01:36:13,184 --> 01:36:15,561
Sounds pretty apocalyptic,
1477
01:36:15,644 --> 01:36:19,648
but we seem to be entering a new era
a new era.
1478
01:36:20,858 --> 01:36:24,945
We see that authoritarian governments
are on the rise.
1479
01:36:25,362 --> 01:36:31,076
And they all use this policy
of hate and fear on Facebook.
1480
01:36:33,412 --> 01:36:34,705
Look at Brazil.
1481
01:36:34,789 --> 01:36:40,127
They have elected a right-wing extremist.
1482
01:36:40,211 --> 01:36:44,256
And we know that WhatsApp,
which is part of Facebook,
1483
01:36:44,340 --> 01:36:49,929
was clearly involved in disseminating
in disseminating false news there.
1484
01:36:51,305 --> 01:36:53,307
And look what happened in Burma.
1485
01:36:54,391 --> 01:36:56,727
There is evidence that Facebook was used
1486
01:36:56,811 --> 01:36:59,772
to incite racial hatred
that caused genocide.
1487
01:36:59,855 --> 01:37:03,651
Burn the Muslims,
so they will go to Allah faster
1488
01:37:03,734 --> 01:37:06,237
Let us destroy their race.
1489
01:37:07,696 --> 01:37:13,327
We know that the Russian government used
Facebook tools in the U.S.
1490
01:37:14,411 --> 01:37:16,789
PROUD TO BE BLACK
AND DEFEND THE COMMUNITY
1491
01:37:17,122 --> 01:37:20,626
There is evidence that Russian intelligence
1492
01:37:20,709 --> 01:37:24,046
created fake memes
of Black Lives Matter.
1493
01:37:24,755 --> 01:37:28,509
When people clicked on them,
they were directed to
1494
01:37:28,801 --> 01:37:32,513
in which they were invited to marches
1495
01:37:32,596 --> 01:37:35,724
organized by the Russian government.
1496
01:37:35,808 --> 01:37:37,852
- Justice now!
- When do we want it?
1497
01:37:37,935 --> 01:37:40,020
At the same time, pages were being uploaded
1498
01:37:40,104 --> 01:37:44,191
to opposition groups such as Blue Lives Matter
such as Blue Lives Matter.
1499
01:37:45,901 --> 01:37:48,696
The goal is to spread fear and hatred
1500
01:37:49,071 --> 01:37:51,657
to divide the country.
1501
01:37:52,741 --> 01:37:54,368
Divide and rule.
1502
01:37:57,329 --> 01:37:58,998
White supremacy!
1503
01:37:59,707 --> 01:38:01,625
Fascists and proud!
1504
01:38:01,709 --> 01:38:03,085
STOP THE ISLAMIZATION OF TEXAS
1505
01:38:03,544 --> 01:38:04,545
IS NOT MY PRESIDENT
1506
01:38:04,628 --> 01:38:07,965
Fuck Donald Trump!
1507
01:38:08,757 --> 01:38:12,011
These platforms,
created to connect us,
1508
01:38:12,595 --> 01:38:14,847
have turned them into weapons.
1509
01:38:16,765 --> 01:38:20,227
And it is impossible to distinguish them
1510
01:38:20,311 --> 01:38:24,315
because it happens on the same platforms
1511
01:38:24,398 --> 01:38:27,985
where we chat with friends
or share baby pictures.
1512
01:38:30,112 --> 01:38:32,197
Nothing is what it seems.
1513
01:38:37,286 --> 01:38:41,957
NEW YORK
1514
01:38:45,294 --> 01:38:46,754
Hello, how are you?
1515
01:38:47,421 --> 01:38:49,089
I am well.
1516
01:38:49,173 --> 01:38:55,137
I was here last week
and left two suitcases and two bags.
1517
01:38:55,220 --> 01:38:58,390
And I had to go to the airport and leave.
1518
01:38:58,474 --> 01:39:00,476
My luggage has been here for a week.
1519
01:39:06,857 --> 01:39:08,692
My guest, Carole Cadwalladr,
1520
01:39:08,776 --> 01:39:12,071
writes for the British newspapers
The Observer and The Guardian.
1521
01:39:12,863 --> 01:39:15,324
Can you tell us more
about Facebook's data?
1522
01:39:15,824 --> 01:39:20,871
This from the data,
how it influenced Americans
1523
01:39:20,955 --> 01:39:22,998
and what they were influenced by
1524
01:39:23,082 --> 01:39:26,961
is a key part of Mueller's
of the Mueller investigation.
1525
01:39:30,965 --> 01:39:34,718
I am going to Washington DC
1526
01:39:35,010 --> 01:39:38,430
to testify
in the Mueller investigation.
1527
01:39:41,767 --> 01:39:45,270
I really had no idea,
as we sat there
1528
01:39:45,354 --> 01:39:47,898
tallying the votes on our screens
on our screens,
1529
01:39:47,982 --> 01:39:50,401
that some of these votes
1530
01:39:50,484 --> 01:39:56,490
were issued by people who had seen
who had seen fake news
1531
01:39:56,573 --> 01:39:59,451
Russia on its Facebook page.
Facebook page.
1532
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:02,579
Maybe I wanted to believe
1533
01:40:02,663 --> 01:40:05,708
that Cambridge Analytica was the best.
1534
01:40:07,543 --> 01:40:09,586
It is convenient to believe this version.
1535
01:40:24,101 --> 01:40:28,731
...degrees Celsius at Washington DC's Reagan
Reagan Airport in Washington DC.
1536
01:40:35,195 --> 01:40:37,656
I don't think it is possible to get rid of this.
1537
01:40:40,284 --> 01:40:42,911
You can't leave something like this behind.
1538
01:40:59,053 --> 01:41:01,805
"Youth participation, persuasion...
1539
01:41:03,140 --> 01:41:04,516
...indifference.
1540
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:05,893
We are working in Malaysia.
1541
01:41:05,976 --> 01:41:10,105
We did Lithuania, Romania, Kenya, Ghana.
1542
01:41:10,564 --> 01:41:12,691
And the Brexit campaign.
1543
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:14,693
We don't talk about that.
1544
01:41:14,777 --> 01:41:16,070
We won.
1545
01:41:18,655 --> 01:41:21,200
Listening to all this now, it seems
1546
01:41:21,700 --> 01:41:25,704
a criminal recognizing
all the bad things he did for the world.
1547
01:41:27,372 --> 01:41:28,290
Do you know?
1548
01:41:29,291 --> 01:41:32,086
I stood there laughing nervously with him,
1549
01:41:32,169 --> 01:41:33,170
letting it happen.
1550
01:41:41,345 --> 01:41:45,849
As I said, it's the opposite
of what I set out to do all my life.
1551
01:41:47,726 --> 01:41:48,727
So...
1552
01:41:51,772 --> 01:41:55,359
...I get angry with myself
for being in a meeting like this,
1553
01:41:55,901 --> 01:41:58,112
and not to have resigned immediately...
1554
01:41:59,321 --> 01:42:00,572
...in principle.
1555
01:42:04,243 --> 01:42:05,702
What am I doing?
1556
01:42:06,411 --> 01:42:08,622
Which researchers did you talk to?
1557
01:42:09,790 --> 01:42:13,710
I am collaborating as much as possible
1558
01:42:13,794 --> 01:42:17,506
with government investigations in which it may cooperate
in which it can cooperate,
1559
01:42:17,589 --> 01:42:20,092
but I am unable to comment
being in progress.
1560
01:42:28,892 --> 01:42:31,145
At this time you can use your cell phone,
1561
01:42:31,478 --> 01:42:35,023
but larger devices
should remain in storage.
1562
01:42:35,190 --> 01:42:37,025
Brittany made mistakes.
1563
01:42:38,819 --> 01:42:41,155
But it was very brave of him
1564
01:42:41,238 --> 01:42:44,199
introduce yourself and then continue to cooperate
1565
01:42:44,283 --> 01:42:45,826
and not to stay on the sidelines.
1566
01:42:48,620 --> 01:42:51,665
It is one of the two people
1567
01:42:51,915 --> 01:42:56,962
that has seriously denounced Cambridge Analytica
Cambridge Analytica.
1568
01:43:00,424 --> 01:43:01,884
We are all responsible.
1569
01:43:04,970 --> 01:43:07,806
The question is: what do we do with
with that responsibility?
1570
01:43:08,348 --> 01:43:09,516
Shall we assume it?
1571
01:43:12,269 --> 01:43:14,521
I'm glad it's finally happening.
1572
01:43:14,605 --> 01:43:18,275
to be able to tell people
what happened and leave everything...
1573
01:43:19,860 --> 01:43:20,861
...registered...
1574
01:43:22,154 --> 01:43:24,823
...for this government, my government.
1575
01:43:47,262 --> 01:43:49,348
Remember Cambridge Analytica?
1576
01:43:49,431 --> 01:43:51,391
It was attributed in 2016
1577
01:43:51,475 --> 01:43:53,477
having had access to
to data from all over the
1578
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,438
the electorate voting in the U.S. election
in the U.S. election.
1579
01:43:58,232 --> 01:44:02,402
Only one of the 157 million people who voted in that election
who voted in that election,
1580
01:44:02,486 --> 01:44:06,365
a man named David Carroll,
asked them a very simple question.
1581
01:44:06,907 --> 01:44:09,534
Can I see the data you have about me?
1582
01:44:10,577 --> 01:44:12,371
And they refused to give it to them.
1583
01:44:14,248 --> 01:44:18,460
But the important thing is that today
Cambridge Analytica pleaded guilty
1584
01:44:18,543 --> 01:44:22,422
at Hendon Magistrates' Court for failure to comply with the ICO notice.
not to comply with the ICO notice.
1585
01:44:22,506 --> 01:44:24,466
What do you think about this?
1586
01:44:26,093 --> 01:44:29,721
We always knew it was
an illicit association, Carole.
1587
01:44:29,805 --> 01:44:32,182
Now... it's official?
1588
01:44:40,607 --> 01:44:43,277
I have already left behind
the Cambridge Analytica case.
1589
01:44:43,819 --> 01:44:46,530
They pleaded guilty
of not giving me my data,
1590
01:44:47,781 --> 01:44:50,075
and I will probably never get them.
1591
01:44:53,036 --> 01:44:55,330
By the time my daughter turns
18 years old,
1592
01:44:55,414 --> 01:44:58,750
there will be 70,000 data points
that define it
1593
01:44:59,042 --> 01:45:01,169
and currently has no rights.
1594
01:45:01,545 --> 01:45:03,755
It has no control over it.
1595
01:45:06,383 --> 01:45:08,385
But the battle continues.
1596
01:45:13,348 --> 01:45:15,142
I don't need to tell you
1597
01:45:15,225 --> 01:45:19,521
that there is a dark current
that connects us globally
1598
01:45:19,688 --> 01:45:23,567
and that runs
through technological platforms.
1599
01:45:24,026 --> 01:45:26,236
That is why I am here,
1600
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:31,450
to speak directly to you,
the gods of Silicon Valley.
1601
01:45:35,412 --> 01:45:36,997
Mark Zuckerberg...
1602
01:45:38,457 --> 01:45:40,208
...and Sheryl Sandberg,
1603
01:45:40,292 --> 01:45:43,128
and Larry Page and Sergey Brin,
1604
01:45:43,211 --> 01:45:44,671
and Jack Dorsey.
1605
01:45:46,298 --> 01:45:49,051
You set out to
to connect people
1606
01:45:49,801 --> 01:45:51,928
and do not want to recognize
1607
01:45:52,012 --> 01:45:55,682
that this same technology
is separating us.
1608
01:45:56,683 --> 01:45:59,561
They don't seem to understand
1609
01:45:59,644 --> 01:46:03,023
that this is beyond them,
it surpasses any of us.
1610
01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:08,779
It's not about left or right,
about leaving or staying or Trump or not Trump.
1611
01:46:09,279 --> 01:46:11,406
It has to do with the real possibility
1612
01:46:11,490 --> 01:46:13,992
to have free and fair
free and fair elections.
1613
01:46:14,409 --> 01:46:17,871
I want to ask you something:
is this what you want?
1614
01:46:19,289 --> 01:46:22,209
Is this how they want history to remember them?
1615
01:46:23,377 --> 01:46:26,922
As the servants of authoritarianism?
1616
01:46:27,506 --> 01:46:31,343
And my question to others is:
is this what we want?
1617
01:46:32,010 --> 01:46:36,181
Sitting and playing with the phone
while this darkness traps us?
1618
01:46:41,686 --> 01:46:44,022
Who is online on Facebook now?
1619
01:46:46,274 --> 01:46:47,359
Almost all of them.
1620
01:46:49,111 --> 01:46:50,779
As individuals,
1621
01:46:50,862 --> 01:46:55,700
we can limit the flow of data
that we filter from all sides.
1622
01:46:55,784 --> 01:46:59,287
There are no miracle solutions.
There is no way to hide.
1623
01:46:59,538 --> 01:47:02,040
So you have to understand...
1624
01:47:02,791 --> 01:47:05,544
...how your data affects your life.
1625
01:47:07,629 --> 01:47:10,841
Our dignity as human beings
is in danger.
1626
01:47:20,434 --> 01:47:22,602
But the most difficult part of all this...
1627
01:47:25,981 --> 01:47:27,941
...is that these areas of destruction...
1628
01:47:29,317 --> 01:47:31,069
...and devastating divisions...
1629
01:47:33,947 --> 01:47:37,868
...begin with the manipulation of an individual
of an individual.
1630
01:47:39,369 --> 01:47:40,537
Then another.
1631
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:43,165
And one more.
1632
01:47:47,711 --> 01:47:50,088
I can't help but ask myself this question:
1633
01:47:52,048 --> 01:47:53,675
can they manipulate me?
1634
01:47:57,304 --> 01:47:58,472
What about you?
1635
01:48:07,063 --> 01:48:09,566
Trump's 2016 digital campaign manager
Trump's
1636
01:48:09,649 --> 01:48:12,194
said it posted 5,900,000 ads
on Facebook
1637
01:48:12,277 --> 01:48:14,738
in deference to Hillary Clinton's 66,000
Hillary Clinton's 66,000.
1638
01:48:14,821 --> 01:48:20,076
He is now the campaign manager
of Trump 2020.
1639
01:48:20,577 --> 01:48:24,414
Alexander Nix declined
to be interviewed for the film.
1640
01:48:24,498 --> 01:48:28,335
In statements he said that they had
legally obtained the data from Facebook,
1641
01:48:28,418 --> 01:48:32,255
that they only submitted a "proposal to work
to work" to Leave.EU
1642
01:48:32,339 --> 01:48:36,176
and that it had not resorted to the closure
to evade its legal obligations.
1643
01:48:36,510 --> 01:48:39,513
Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar of Trinidad and Tobago
of Trinidad and Tobago
1644
01:48:39,596 --> 01:48:41,973
denies having worked
with Cambridge Analytica.
1645
01:48:42,057 --> 01:48:44,434
The authorities are investigating this
this fact.
1646
01:48:44,643 --> 01:48:48,730
Carole Cadwalladr continues to report
on threats to democracy
1647
01:48:48,813 --> 01:48:52,901
and, along with the New York Times,
was a finalist for a Pulitzer Prize.
1648
01:48:53,235 --> 01:48:57,364
David Carroll continues to teach
and fighting
1649
01:48:57,447 --> 01:49:01,576
for data rights to be considered human rights.
are considered human rights.
1650
01:49:01,952 --> 01:49:04,704
Brittany Kaiser now defends data rights
data rights
1651
01:49:04,788 --> 01:49:06,373
giving expert testimony
1652
01:49:06,456 --> 01:49:09,209
and works with legislators
through its #OwnYourData campaign.
1653
01:49:09,292 --> 01:49:13,713
The crucial evidence she presented has helped to change the discourse
has helped to change the discourse
1654
01:49:13,797 --> 01:49:18,218
on Brexit, Facebook and data
and data protection laws.
1655
01:53:15,413 --> 01:53:17,749
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