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The South is not a monolith.
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There are pockets of weirdness,
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awesomeness, and then there's Charleston.
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Where for some time now, important things have been
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happening with food.
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A lot of them having to do with this guy.
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♪ I took a walk through this beautiful world ♪
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♪ Felt the cool rain on my shoulder ♪
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♪ Found something good in this beautiful world ♪
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♪ I felt the rain getting colder ♪
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♪ Sha la la la la
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♪ Sha la la la la la
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♪ Sha la la la la
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♪ Sha la la la la la la
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What are we drinking? Beer? Harder stuff?
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What's going on?
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I usually go with a Budweiser and a Jagermeister.
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Budweiser and Jagermeister.
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Any notion of going local right out the window.
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Two jagers?
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Yeah, two jagers.
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Cheers.
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The first one's never good.
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The first one is never good.
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But it gets easier after the first one.
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So, look, this is not my first
time to Charleston, as you know.
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I did do a show here before,
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and I'm still taking [ muted ] about it.
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Apparently I really [ muted ]
up the first time I came here
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because I made a number of errors.
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Apparently none more egregious than going out...
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Like, doing an oyster roast and drinking champagne.
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I never heard of such a thing.
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Well, champagne and beers is okay with the oysters.
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So it must have been a...
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Somebody got confused somewhere.
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Anyway, I got it wrong.
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This time I'm getting it right,
which is why I've come to you.
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♪
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You can be forgiven for underestimating Sean Brock
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first time you meet him. I know I did.
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I saw a scruffy-looking dude in
a trucker cap who had a bottle
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of good bourbon on hand.
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Stitzel Weller, 199118 years old.
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This is the end of great whiskey.
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It didn't come in this bottle.
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This is my travel bottle
because it's plastic, you see,
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so it don't break when you get rowdy.
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♪
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It took me a little time
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to discover the ferocious intellect,
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the inquiring nature,
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the purposeful talent to the man.
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Without a doubt, one of
America's most important chefs.
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A guy redefining not just what
Southern cooking is, was,
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and can be, but American cooking as a whole.
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♪
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One, two, three!
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♪
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We're going to talk a lot
about this over the next week
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about the notions of universal awesomeness.
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Is the waffle house universally awesome?
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We have one choice for late-night eating
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and it's the waffle house.
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And they create this environment where,
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no matter how blitzed you
are or how normal you are,
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you are welcomed and treated equally
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with an experience.
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Not just like eating a plate of food.
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You're talking about a magical, spiritual place.
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It's beyond a magical, spiritual place.
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It is, indeed, marvelous.
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An irony-free zone where everything is beautiful
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and nothing hurts.
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Where everybody, regardless of race, creed, color,
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or degree of inebriation, is welcomed.
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Its warm, yellow glow a
beacon of hope and salvation,
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inviting the hungry, the lost,
the seriously hammered,
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all across the South to come inside.
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A place of safety and nourishment.
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It never closes.
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It is always, always faithful.
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Always there for you.
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When I was a kid, I was obsessed with this place
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because I wanted to be a chef.
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This was the only place that I'd ever been to
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where I actually watched people cook.
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This was action to me.
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I would see these people cooking
at a pace and cooking for people
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who were completely out of control,
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but still providing hospitality.
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It was one of the things that
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really helped me fall in love with cooking.
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Waffle house.
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Yes.
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I can't believe I didn't know about this.
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I am unbelievably, in spite of my world travels,
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new to the wonders of the waffle house.
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And unfamiliar with its ways.
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The terminology, for instance, is new to me.
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Now, look, I'm looking at my hashbrown
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and I am already confused and enticed.
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Sausage gravy.
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You can't go all in. You want everything.
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I need to make a choice.
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There's a balance.
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When you find your balance, you memorize it.
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I go scattered covered smothered chunks.
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Which mean, I gather, scattered on the griddle,
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heaped with brown onions, cheese,
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and chunks of hickory smoked ham.
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That's my style.
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I've been doing that since day one.
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And I don't even know what that means.
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You know what I know,
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I don't want waffles at the waffle house.
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You have to have...
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Waffles?
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OK, you have the pecan waffle.
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What I devised as a chef,
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a tasting menu experience where
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you can sit down and really
experience what this place does.
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And you start out first thing
you have, pecan waffle.
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Really?
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All right, gentlemen. Pecan waffle.
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You just crush it. You put every...
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Slather it.
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I want it to be swimming in syrup
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and homogenized vegetable oil.
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That's good.
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You don't come here expecting The French Laundry,
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you come here expecting something amazing.
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This is better than The French Laundry, man.
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And then, second course. Patty melt, split.
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♪
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Patty melt.
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Come on.
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That's not insanely delicious.
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Oh, goddamn.
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Isn't that insanely delicious?
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No meal is complete without a sunny-side-up egg.
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Oh, yeah.
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And then a green salad with
some thousand island dressing
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would be amazing.
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Would you rather have thin-cut
pork chops or T-bone?
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I would like both.
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♪
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♪
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Heinz 57 is the best, man.
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One of the more complex sauces.
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What? -In the American repertoire.
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Really?
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You want to talk shit about it.
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This is saucework.
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Trust me, this is going to change your life.
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That's wrong, man.
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Come on.
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Mmm.
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A brilliant human being that
had a recipe that was amazing
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and it got a bad rap.
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Like you're talking about Ronald McDonald.
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He had a good idea.
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No, you're wrong.
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I'm sorry.
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Here's where we part ways, my friend.
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There's my sauce.
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After a few bites of waffle,
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a burger, a hunk of generic
T-bone and some hashbrown,
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one feels drawn right to the center of
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what makes our country great.
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In America, yeah, moment,
start reciting Walt Whitman,
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"The Star Spangled Banner,"
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oh say can you see,
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and I doubt I'd be the first.
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Give me a break.
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The umami happened.
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You know what umami means in Japanese?
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The literal transition?
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Orgasm?
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No.
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Umami means, in Japanese, literally it means I will
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[ muted ] your [ muted ] for a bite of that.
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That burger.
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Everybody needs a place.
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A community.
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Something larger than one's self to care about.
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A place to hide when times get tough.
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Where you're accepted for who you are.
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Where the rhythms of a summer
afternoon, the crack of a bat,
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the roar of the crowd, are music.
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Behold the mighty Charleston Riverdogs.
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A minor league feeder team
for the New York Yankees.
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Meet one of the owners of the Charleston Riverdogs,
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Charleston resident, Bill Murray.
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Said I had too many beers to drive.
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I'm going to take shotgun.
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We're going to see how fast
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he can go all the way around the outfield.
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Today, the Riverdogs are
facing the evil forces of the
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dreaded Savannah Sandgnats.
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That's going to score a run
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and that's going to leave a mark.
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Going to hold them.
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Bad day for the Sandgnats.
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You're hated.
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We will crush you like a... Sandgnat.
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A sandgnat has almost no backbone,
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almost no skeletal structure.
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They fold.
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As difficult as it might have
been to forego the joys of the
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bacon-wrapped footlong corn dog
known as the pig on a stick,
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we knew we'd be coming here.
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Husk.
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Sean's restaurant in downtown Charleston.
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One of two that have helped make the city
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a fine dining destination.
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So I want to know, Southern living.
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It's very different up there and down here.
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It's a big transition.
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Easy for you, or not?
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It's easy.
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Driving was the real transition
because I'd drive, like,
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in New York... when you come here,
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driving like New York, you know,
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it takes you a while to recover.
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But, you know, I'm right on the
edge here, like telling people
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this is a really nice place to
come and really I don't want
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anyone else to come. I like it the way it is.
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There's a lot of insects.
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It's really, really hot in the summer.
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And the traffic is worse than it ever was.
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Husk directly addresses
Southern culinary traditions
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using the best of modern
techniques, but always, always
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respecting the originals and who made them.
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It's a pressing matter to redefine Southern food.
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If I were Southerner, I would
make it a personal mission
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because it was distorted for so long.
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But as a northerner, why should northerners care?
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Well, I think if you look at the
history of food in America,
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there's no denying that Southern
food was the first, you know,
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true cuisine that had this
foundation and that's important
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to preserve, and, you know, to
me, though, it kind of goes back
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to the idea, you should be
cooking and preserving and
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celebrating the food of your grandmother.
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People take a real pride in
their ability to cook my aunt's
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recipe, my grandma's recipe,
and this is how we made these.
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The standard of food here is so high
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that when I go around any place, I just go, eh.
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Country ham, bread and butter pickles,
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and, of course, Sean being
Sean, there will be bourbon.
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I just like to start with pickles and ham.
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I'll try not to geek out too
much, but this is a very special
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breed of pig that came over here
in the 1500s called asabal.
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The Spaniards brought it. It
has a very particular flavor.
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This one's aged three years.
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That's ridiculously good.
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That's the best American ham I've ever had.
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Far and away. That's unbelievable.
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These two things together
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is my two favorite things
in the whole entire world.
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Stitzel Weller whiskey and old country ham.
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♪
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♪
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So this is an old dish
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that I dug up in one of those
old books that I study.
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It's an old-fashioned oyster pie.
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Oh.
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So just grab your spoon and
just dig all the way down.
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The oysters are in the bottom.
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How old is this recipe?
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It was well-documented in the
19th century, pre-Civil War.
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It's good.
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Yes.
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♪
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So shrimp and grits is the dish of Charleston.
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I mean, it really is.
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It's the dish I crave when I
leave Charleston and come back.
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This version is one of the older
ones where we actually make
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hominy first by mixing with the corn.
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You'll taste... the grits are
a little bit different.
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Oh, yes.
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That's really great looking.
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We make a brown gravy which
is the most classic way.
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And on top, crispy pig ears.
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You get grannies coming in
saying I haven't tasted this
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since I was a little kid?
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Yeah, exactly, man.
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Wow, that's good.
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♪
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We were trying to replicate the
emotion that Southern food
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provides you in a time when good
ingredients weren't available,
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so we made up for tasteless
ingredients by frying them
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or dumping butter on them.
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Right.
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Now we don't have to.
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♪
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Wow, what's going on here?
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This is an onslaught of awesomeness here.
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We didn't order this.
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So pit beans that is been
cooking over the fire all day.
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These are the red peas that came from West Africa.
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This is the original Carolina gold rice.
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Hand harvested.
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Grilled whiting, which is what
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nobody eats in Charleston in restaurants.
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It's what everybody eats in homes
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with some spring vegetables and then suckling pig.
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The same breed asabal we had earlier with the ham,
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mixed with a mule foot,
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cooked on a spit, some creamed corn and corn bread.
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Wow! This is going to
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be my first mule foot.
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This is like my favorite way to eat, you know,
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just family-style, pass stuff around.
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Yeah.
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The rice is amazing.
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It's amazing. -Yep.
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You see Bubba Gump.
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You get angry?
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I am very angry.
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For me, it's Chili's.
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You see Chili's along the Mexican border.
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Like what the [ muted ]?
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Do we have a shortage of
Mexicans in this [ muted ].
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Is there a shortage of good food?
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You're eating at Chili's?
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I want to pull up the car, get a tire iron,
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walk in and straighten some people out.
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Clean house.
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Roadhouse style.
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Roadhouse. Vastly underrated film.
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You guys are both into Roadhouse?
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Such a great film.
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What else do you need to know?
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You can deconstruct this film forever.
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The more you watch it, the more mysteries unfold.
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I've never seen anyone enjoy
Roadhouse more than I do.
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What?
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My friend's wife, Kelly Lynch,
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plays the doctor that stitches
up Patrick Swayze in the movie.
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She's the romantic interest, right?
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The unattainable...
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Yes.
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Romantic interest.
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And I have for the last probably
about 25 years called his home
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in the middle of the night and
said, "You don't know me..."
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...but your wife's getting
slammed up against the wall
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by Patrick Swayze.
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"She's not putting up much of a fight."
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And then hang up.
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It is in many ways a perfect film.
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What is down-home Southern cooking?
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Where did it come from?
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Who's responsible?
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Well, it's always useful when
asking those kinds of questions
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wherever you are to ask, first,
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who did the cooking back then in the beginning?
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Where did they come from?
When you meet people here,
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you know that you're seeing a
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direct descendant of a slave
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that was here after the slaves were freed.
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00:19:53,985 --> 00:19:57,236
Ashley Green grew up on
Mosquito Beach on James Island
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in Charleston.
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Her mother owns the property
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which has been in her family for generations.
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Fact of the matter is, in the
old South back when the dishes,
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ingredients, flavors of Southern cooking,
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which is to say American cooking
as opposed to European,
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chances are that food was grown,
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gathered, produced and prepared by African slaves.
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Chef VJ Dennis has made it a
personal mission to celebrate
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and protect the culinary
traditions his ancestors passed
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down to him.
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This is some local blue crab.
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Just freshly seasoned.
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This is a play on some garlic crabs.
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This is shrimp butter instead of the garlic butter.
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You have the play of the French influence
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into the cuisine right here.
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The flavors and textures and
food ways of West Africa
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are all over Southern cooking.
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And there are few better places
to see how short the line
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between there and here than Gullah culture.
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I'm really enjoying this. I got to tell you.
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This is so delicious.
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Oh, my.
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How African is traditional Gullah cooking?
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I think what happens is you change the location
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of the people but you did not
change who the people were.
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You did not change the
information that they came with,
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with their traditions.
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If you look at the history of
American food, you'll quickly
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see this is one of the first
true cuisines of America.
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What's that? What is this? This looks good.
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West Africa...
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All right.
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Soft shell crabs and konk
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in a decidedly West African peanut stew
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with Carolina rice, sautéed squash, and zucchini.
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00:21:45,596 --> 00:21:47,180
Oh, that's so good.
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00:21:47,181 --> 00:21:51,517
It's been a while since I've had konk.
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00:21:51,518 --> 00:21:53,519
Clearly, correct me if I'm wrong,
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00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,605
there's a different kind of
interest in Charleston than
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existed 20 years ago.
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00:21:57,691 --> 00:21:59,025
Right?
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Is something happening here?
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What's changed?
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00:22:02,529 --> 00:22:07,617
It's good to have people, to
have a more diverse community in
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a sense, but then you also lose a little bit.
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00:22:09,996 --> 00:22:12,497
The danger is they're coming to Charleston
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because of the beauty,
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and we're having to fight against bigger entities
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00:22:18,171 --> 00:22:21,547
that seek to get the land so they can develop it.
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00:22:21,548 --> 00:22:26,385
And so we're fighting to keep
what's been ours and so it's
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important for us to preserve this area.
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Preserve this culture for generations to come.
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♪
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According to the US Government,
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00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:45,322
almost 50% of all the children in this country
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fail to get their recommended daily allowance...
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00:22:47,449 --> 00:22:51,077
Fast food restaurants have
discovered we like our food
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00:22:51,078 --> 00:22:53,121
heavily salted.
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00:22:53,122 --> 00:22:55,623
Just add water and two of your own fresh eggs.
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00:22:55,624 --> 00:22:58,793
Because of industry's innovations in farm chemicals
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00:22:58,794 --> 00:22:59,836
and machinery.
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00:22:59,837 --> 00:23:01,378
Taste it.
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00:23:01,379 --> 00:23:03,089
How did it happen,
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00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:05,091
that we ended up with Southern food
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00:23:05,092 --> 00:23:09,137
being the most sort of cruelly
hijacked into this cartoonish
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00:23:09,138 --> 00:23:11,597
parody of itself?
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00:23:11,598 --> 00:23:15,268
Modern, clean, advanced, complete meat processing.
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00:23:15,269 --> 00:23:20,232
I think it's a combination of
two massive cultural influences
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00:23:20,233 --> 00:23:22,734
that came together at the same time.
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00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:28,447
The idea of industrialization
came late to the South.
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00:23:28,448 --> 00:23:32,744
When it hit, we got the first
nutrition laws in America were
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00:23:32,745 --> 00:23:36,289
written in South Carolina
because everybody moved into
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mill villages and immediately
started eating processed food
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00:23:39,210 --> 00:23:41,295
because they weren't growing their food anymore.
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00:23:44,382 --> 00:23:46,216
The second thing that happened
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00:23:46,217 --> 00:23:50,845
is there was a massive amount of
expertise that was lost during
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the Civil War.
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00:23:52,472 --> 00:23:54,849
A lot of the Southern revival,
the whole turnaround,
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00:23:54,850 --> 00:23:57,894
started with this guy. Glen Roberts.
447
00:23:57,895 --> 00:24:00,479
A man who asked a simple question.
448
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,234
How come grits aren't as good as they used to be?
449
00:24:04,235 --> 00:24:07,237
By starting the heirloom
grain company, Anson Mills,
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00:24:07,238 --> 00:24:09,864
decided to do something about it.
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00:24:09,865 --> 00:24:14,160
Why do this? Why do something as unwanted?
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00:24:14,161 --> 00:24:18,164
Meaning nobody was particularly
crying, you know, we need rice
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00:24:18,165 --> 00:24:22,127
that used to taste like it did in 1837,
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00:24:22,128 --> 00:24:25,880
we need grits, better grits.
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00:24:25,881 --> 00:24:29,050
What called to you that you
felt compelled to answer?
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00:24:29,051 --> 00:24:31,719
I'm a cuisine whore.
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00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,975
You know, I think culture is
interactive with cuisine.
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00:24:36,976 --> 00:24:39,852
As soon as you look at cuisine,
you're looking at politics,
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00:24:39,853 --> 00:24:41,313
you're looking at medicine,
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00:24:41,314 --> 00:24:43,273
you're looking at the advanced thinking.
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00:24:43,274 --> 00:24:45,317
I'll agree with you, there's nothing more political
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00:24:45,318 --> 00:24:46,359
than food.
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00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:48,153
You got it.
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00:24:48,154 --> 00:24:51,114
Chef Mike Latta's restaurant,
Fig, was one of the first and
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most important on the Charleston scene.
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Determined to source the kind of local products
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00:24:56,203 --> 00:24:59,580
you used to find everywhere in the low country.
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00:24:59,581 --> 00:25:02,875
As much as I'd like to
illustrate that solid grounding
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00:25:02,876 --> 00:25:05,170
in traditional ingredients and
preparations with my order,
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00:25:05,171 --> 00:25:08,173
I could not resist the soft shell crabs,
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00:25:08,174 --> 00:25:09,715
which are just in season,
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00:25:09,716 --> 00:25:12,135
With a pasta and shaved botarga
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00:25:12,136 --> 00:25:15,054
which frankly I'd slit my best friend's throat for.
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00:25:15,055 --> 00:25:16,132
Wow, that looks great. Yeah.
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00:25:17,141 --> 00:25:18,183
That's beautiful.
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00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:20,726
Sweet.
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00:25:20,727 --> 00:25:24,105
When you had your first plate full of proper rice,
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00:25:24,106 --> 00:25:26,941
is there an instinct to
bludgeon the rest of the world
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00:25:26,942 --> 00:25:30,487
in an understanding of what
you'd just come to understand?
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00:25:30,488 --> 00:25:34,282
I did not run up and down
the streets of Charleston.
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00:25:34,283 --> 00:25:37,076
It was tough to dislodge people here,
482
00:25:37,077 --> 00:25:39,662
so I just went straight to San Francisco.
483
00:25:39,663 --> 00:25:40,830
Right.
484
00:25:40,831 --> 00:25:42,874
I gave away tons of product.
485
00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:45,669
And guess what, they went crazy.
486
00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:51,300
Slow baked black bass, ramps
in season, and lettuces.
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00:25:54,845 --> 00:25:58,639
And this to all things Glen is
responsible for bringing back.
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00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,060
Heirloom rice and pigs, suckling asabal pig
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00:26:02,061 --> 00:26:05,688
and Carolina gold rice.
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00:26:05,689 --> 00:26:08,400
Isn't that great?
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00:26:08,401 --> 00:26:11,027
This is phenomenal. These peas are killer.
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00:26:11,028 --> 00:26:12,778
I'm hitting the rice next.
493
00:26:12,779 --> 00:26:16,699
That's got the entire history
of Southern agriculture in it.
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00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,243
Right here.
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00:26:18,244 --> 00:26:19,827
Right there in that little bowl.
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00:26:19,828 --> 00:26:24,123
This whole idea of having a century in a dish,
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00:26:24,124 --> 00:26:28,127
none of this stuff was here 20 years ago.
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00:26:28,128 --> 00:26:30,213
Near the end of the Civil War,
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00:26:30,214 --> 00:26:32,757
during General Sherman's scorched earth campaign,
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seed stores were a favored target.
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It was largely African slaves
who were able to save the seeds
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00:26:38,931 --> 00:26:43,935
that Glen is now able to locate and reintroduce.
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00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:47,146
It is those people who kept the corn.
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00:26:47,147 --> 00:26:49,606
It is those people who kept the cow peas.
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00:26:49,607 --> 00:26:52,651
It's those people who kept the
vegetables because they couldn't
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00:26:52,652 --> 00:26:54,653
buy their way out of not doing it.
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00:26:54,654 --> 00:26:58,657
Will you talk about chitlins, pig foot, hog maws,
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00:26:58,658 --> 00:27:00,285
African Americans in the north do not
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00:27:00,286 --> 00:27:04,830
embrace those classics of the
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00:27:04,831 --> 00:27:08,918
South as an overlay of pain and
oppression that goes with it.
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00:27:08,919 --> 00:27:10,711
How do we combat that?
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00:27:10,712 --> 00:27:13,714
What you're speaking about is
walking away from your own
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00:27:13,715 --> 00:27:16,384
culinary heritage because of social sensitivity.
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00:27:16,385 --> 00:27:19,678
Bottom line is, if you want
something that's compelling,
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00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:24,518
that draws on your soul, this
is why they call it soul food.
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00:27:28,606 --> 00:27:32,275
I need the finest in turkey-killing couture.
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00:27:32,276 --> 00:27:34,693
I want to be ninja-like and I want to look cool.
518
00:27:34,694 --> 00:27:40,158
Camouflage is the standard go out
wearing South Carolina, so...
519
00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:44,787
I'm bringing that look to New York.
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00:27:44,788 --> 00:27:46,205
The cool, clear morning
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00:27:46,206 --> 00:27:48,707
and I do what any sensible Charlestonian
522
00:27:48,708 --> 00:27:50,709
would do on a day like this,
523
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:52,253
look for turkeys to kill.
524
00:27:52,254 --> 00:27:53,338
Pants, need those.
525
00:27:53,339 --> 00:27:54,632
All right.
526
00:27:56,634 --> 00:27:59,927
You know, in South Carolina, our
state bird is the mosquito.
527
00:27:59,928 --> 00:28:02,096
Right. So I want to be covered head to toe.
528
00:28:02,097 --> 00:28:05,184
We need your face covered up.
529
00:28:07,478 --> 00:28:10,813
Going to the waffle house wearing this.
530
00:28:10,814 --> 00:28:12,732
This is totally me.
531
00:28:14,901 --> 00:28:16,693
We do have some turkey vests.
532
00:28:16,694 --> 00:28:18,363
Turkey vest, yes.
533
00:28:18,364 --> 00:28:20,491
I just... gotta have it.
534
00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:28,414
This is your last day on earth, Mr. turkey.
535
00:28:28,415 --> 00:28:30,625
You will die now.
536
00:28:30,626 --> 00:28:32,878
Prepare to meet your maker.
537
00:28:41,637 --> 00:28:43,262
Here's the thing about hunting.
538
00:28:43,263 --> 00:28:45,640
The likelihood of me successfully shooting even the
539
00:28:45,641 --> 00:28:48,893
stupidest animal on camera are
about the same as Donald Trump
540
00:28:48,894 --> 00:28:50,520
being gracious to anybody or
541
00:28:50,521 --> 00:28:53,356
Adam Sandler making a good movie.
542
00:28:53,357 --> 00:28:56,484
Basically, a magical unicorn is
going to land in front of me
543
00:28:56,485 --> 00:29:00,029
and shower me with candy and
Vicodins before I shoot a
544
00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:02,824
freaking turkey on camera.
545
00:29:04,577 --> 00:29:07,328
That shot you heard was me
shooting a producer in the calf
546
00:29:07,329 --> 00:29:09,205
and telling him to wobble over to the Piggy Wiggly
547
00:29:09,206 --> 00:29:13,001
for a frozen gobbler before he bleeds out.
548
00:29:16,755 --> 00:29:19,131
And like magic, behold.
549
00:29:19,132 --> 00:29:20,800
Turkey.
550
00:29:21,885 --> 00:29:24,220
Slow, slow barbecued turkey,
551
00:29:24,221 --> 00:29:28,641
with all the sides you want and need.
552
00:29:28,642 --> 00:29:30,560
What do we got going on here?
553
00:29:30,561 --> 00:29:32,228
Pigs feet and collard greens.
554
00:29:32,229 --> 00:29:33,688
Pickled pigs feet and collard greens.
555
00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:35,189
Oh, yes.
556
00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:37,525
Barbecue coleslaw.
557
00:29:37,526 --> 00:29:39,694
Potato salad and ramps.
558
00:29:39,695 --> 00:29:41,987
Baked red peas.
559
00:29:41,988 --> 00:29:44,073
There's my weakness right there.
560
00:29:44,074 --> 00:29:45,950
We made you some very special...
561
00:29:45,951 --> 00:29:47,159
Mac and cheese.
562
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,036
Bright orange mac and cheese.
563
00:29:49,037 --> 00:29:51,122
I do like bright orange mac and cheese as you know.
564
00:29:51,123 --> 00:29:52,290
That's a turkey.
565
00:29:52,291 --> 00:29:53,625
Yep.
566
00:29:53,626 --> 00:29:55,543
Let that to be lesson to you.
567
00:29:55,544 --> 00:29:57,836
Like going to Grandma's house.
568
00:29:57,837 --> 00:29:59,756
Mike Latta from Fig is here
569
00:29:59,757 --> 00:30:02,759
and Jeff Allen, owner of Rebellion Farm.
570
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,596
Are there like you guys others -
571
00:30:06,597 --> 00:30:09,181
basically keeping it real as far
572
00:30:09,182 --> 00:30:11,100
as real Southern culinary traditions
573
00:30:11,101 --> 00:30:13,645
as opposed to the jokey ones?
574
00:30:13,646 --> 00:30:15,813
More than you think.
575
00:30:15,814 --> 00:30:18,023
How many people is that?
576
00:30:18,024 --> 00:30:20,526
12.
577
00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:22,903
Yeah, in a town like this, that's pretty amazing.
578
00:30:22,904 --> 00:30:24,656
Goddamn, this is good.
579
00:30:24,657 --> 00:30:27,158
Pigs feet and green, this is ridiculously good.
580
00:30:27,159 --> 00:30:29,702
This is really moist for a wild turkey.
581
00:30:29,703 --> 00:30:31,788
People who say they don't
like turkey need to eat this.
582
00:30:31,789 --> 00:30:33,914
What's your impression of Charleston?
583
00:30:33,915 --> 00:30:38,169
It's one of those weird
distinctly American mutations
584
00:30:38,170 --> 00:30:41,255
kind of like rock 'n' roll or jazz or blues.
585
00:30:41,256 --> 00:30:43,424
That's what makes Charleston so
cool, though, there's really
586
00:30:43,425 --> 00:30:45,384
nothing else like it in America
587
00:30:45,385 --> 00:30:47,219
and it's been unique since the
588
00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:48,680
early part of the 18th century
589
00:30:48,681 --> 00:30:51,182
and the city works hard to preserve that.
590
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:54,101
We have an incredibly gorgeous
city that people want
591
00:30:54,102 --> 00:30:56,604
to visit. So we have the advantage of tourism.
592
00:30:56,605 --> 00:31:00,191
The clientele definitely gives
us the opportunity to be
593
00:31:00,192 --> 00:31:02,485
this progressive or...
594
00:31:02,486 --> 00:31:03,611
Almost push us to be more
595
00:31:03,612 --> 00:31:05,070
than we can even be.
596
00:31:05,071 --> 00:31:07,072
We have an active cuisine.
597
00:31:07,073 --> 00:31:08,866
We've recovered all these
598
00:31:08,867 --> 00:31:12,036
ingredients and rediscovered
a lot of the agricultural
599
00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:16,666
influences that were destroyed
in the 20th century, but we're
600
00:31:16,667 --> 00:31:19,251
not just recreating history.
601
00:31:19,252 --> 00:31:21,629
We're not going back and cooking the Civil War.
602
00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:24,423
These guys are pushing the food
forward here and we're creating
603
00:31:24,424 --> 00:31:26,217
a new cuisine.
604
00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:28,970
Got to be a happy day when you
take a Cesar off the menu.
605
00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:50,616
We're one of the last few hunters in the world.
606
00:31:50,617 --> 00:31:52,993
There's no store for us to go offshore
607
00:31:52,994 --> 00:31:55,079
to go and pick those fish up.
608
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,455
We have to look for them. We have to go and sort of
609
00:31:56,456 --> 00:31:58,957
find the ones we're allowed to harvest.
610
00:31:58,958 --> 00:32:02,545
We're the last of the final
frontier of hunters, you know,
611
00:32:02,546 --> 00:32:05,965
to go in and feed the world and that's what we do.
612
00:32:10,220 --> 00:32:14,056
Mark Mahefka has been a fisherman since the '70s.
613
00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:16,350
He takes an unusual and much-needed approach
614
00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:18,185
to catching fish.
615
00:32:18,186 --> 00:32:21,313
Instead of raking the sea of
the same overfished mindlessly
616
00:32:21,314 --> 00:32:23,232
populous species, he
617
00:32:23,233 --> 00:32:26,569
passionately promotes the just
as good and usually better less
618
00:32:26,570 --> 00:32:28,987
known and underutilized stuff.
619
00:32:28,988 --> 00:32:32,241
One of the great things about the
low country is the flavor of
620
00:32:32,242 --> 00:32:35,620
our waterways and that wasn't
being represented properly in
621
00:32:35,621 --> 00:32:37,538
all the restaurants.
622
00:32:37,539 --> 00:32:40,833
All of a sudden I hear about
this guy who has the most
623
00:32:40,834 --> 00:32:42,460
beautiful fish you've ever seen,
624
00:32:42,461 --> 00:32:46,714
but you got to go to the dock and get it.
625
00:32:46,715 --> 00:32:48,549
Frustrated by the conventional wisdom,
626
00:32:48,550 --> 00:32:51,135
mishandling of fish by other distributors
627
00:32:51,136 --> 00:32:54,806
and the narrow range on the
market, he became his own
628
00:32:54,807 --> 00:32:58,768
dealer, starting Abundant
Seafood, one of the country's
629
00:32:58,769 --> 00:33:03,439
first community supported fisheries, CSFS.
630
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,149
He's changed the way people think
631
00:33:05,150 --> 00:33:08,653
about so-called trash fish.
632
00:33:08,654 --> 00:33:10,154
Look at how beautiful that is.
633
00:33:10,155 --> 00:33:12,156
Today's catch: Triggerfish.
634
00:33:12,157 --> 00:33:13,449
Any market for these things?
635
00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:14,450
Oh, my God.
636
00:33:14,451 --> 00:33:15,660
Yeah?
637
00:33:15,661 --> 00:33:16,661
We can't keep it in house enough.
638
00:33:16,662 --> 00:33:18,412
Really? -Really.
639
00:33:18,413 --> 00:33:22,416
The crazy thing is, like, even
five years ago there wasn't
640
00:33:22,417 --> 00:33:24,001
a single one of these on the menu.
641
00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:25,294
Before we all knew Mark,
642
00:33:25,295 --> 00:33:27,964
everyone had the same crap on the menu.
643
00:33:27,965 --> 00:33:30,090
Tuna, salmon, grouper, snapper.
644
00:33:30,091 --> 00:33:35,053
Which is good stuff, but as we
all know, we overfished that.
645
00:33:35,054 --> 00:33:39,892
Mark really taught all of us
the beauty of stuff like this.
646
00:33:39,893 --> 00:33:42,353
Nice.
647
00:33:42,354 --> 00:33:44,356
♪
648
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,065
This is a half-shell style.
649
00:33:47,066 --> 00:33:48,860
You leave the scale on, the skin on.
650
00:33:48,861 --> 00:33:50,653
Cook it one side up.
651
00:33:50,654 --> 00:33:52,154
It's sort of basting itself.
652
00:33:52,155 --> 00:33:54,448
It makes, like, a cup.
653
00:33:54,449 --> 00:33:56,158
It's very creole.
654
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:59,537
Is there something out there
that you're seeing that's still
655
00:33:59,538 --> 00:34:01,747
a hard sell that you wish people would...
656
00:34:01,748 --> 00:34:03,415
One of the hardest sells is amber jack.
657
00:34:03,416 --> 00:34:04,667
Amber jack.
658
00:34:04,668 --> 00:34:05,960
The Japanese love it.
659
00:34:05,961 --> 00:34:07,419
Amber jack.
660
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:09,338
Look at that. That is pretty.
661
00:34:09,339 --> 00:34:11,298
Smells good. -Wow. Yum.
662
00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:13,051
Mmm.
663
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,555
I could eat that all year.
664
00:34:17,556 --> 00:34:18,931
Charcoal and fish.
665
00:34:18,932 --> 00:34:20,474
I know.
666
00:34:20,475 --> 00:34:22,519
Damn, that's good. -Wow.
667
00:34:25,898 --> 00:34:28,608
♪
668
00:34:35,615 --> 00:34:39,911
Everybody thinks there's all
669
00:34:39,912 --> 00:34:41,620
this great barbecue in the South.
670
00:34:41,621 --> 00:34:44,707
It's 99% terrible barbecue.
671
00:34:44,708 --> 00:34:48,544
And so to get real barbecue, you got to drive.
672
00:34:48,545 --> 00:34:51,422
Way out in the weeds, off the main road
673
00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:55,009
and good freaking luck if
you can find it, is one of
674
00:34:55,010 --> 00:34:59,137
the most respected barbecue joints in the US of A.
675
00:34:59,138 --> 00:35:00,723
Run by one of the most respected
676
00:35:00,724 --> 00:35:03,475
old-school pit masters.
677
00:35:03,476 --> 00:35:04,810
Ask a chef.
678
00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:07,063
Ask anybody who knows good
679
00:35:07,064 --> 00:35:08,773
barbecue and they will tell you
680
00:35:08,774 --> 00:35:10,274
where to go.
681
00:35:10,275 --> 00:35:12,026
Here.
682
00:35:12,027 --> 00:35:15,362
A rundown looking takeout
about two hours' drive out of
683
00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:19,324
Charleston in Hemingway, South Carolina.
684
00:35:19,325 --> 00:35:20,492
Now how long have you been doing this?
685
00:35:20,493 --> 00:35:22,202
Since I was 11.
686
00:35:22,203 --> 00:35:23,287
Grew up doing this.
687
00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,039
Crazy.
688
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,916
My family started in 1972.
689
00:35:26,917 --> 00:35:28,459
So I grew up running around this place.
690
00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:29,710
It's hard.
691
00:35:29,711 --> 00:35:30,962
It is.
692
00:35:30,963 --> 00:35:32,379
That's why no one does it, man.
693
00:35:32,380 --> 00:35:34,172
That's why there's nothing but bad barbecue.
694
00:35:34,173 --> 00:35:38,010
Because in my opinion the only
true way to make barbecue is the
695
00:35:38,011 --> 00:35:41,722
burn barrel and the pits and
you got to stay up all night.
696
00:35:41,723 --> 00:35:43,181
All night.
697
00:35:43,182 --> 00:35:44,935
♪
698
00:35:48,855 --> 00:35:52,858
Rodney Scott, a man sought
after all over the world for
699
00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:56,779
some of the finest whole-hog barbecue there is.
700
00:35:56,780 --> 00:35:59,824
Rodney and his family have been doing it like
701
00:35:59,825 --> 00:36:02,618
this for 43 years.
702
00:36:02,619 --> 00:36:05,537
Burn barrel, fresh coals, slow,
703
00:36:05,538 --> 00:36:09,708
slow, slow cooked all night in the pit.
704
00:36:09,709 --> 00:36:11,752
There are no shortcuts.
705
00:36:11,753 --> 00:36:14,797
This ain't a craft. This is a calling.
706
00:36:14,798 --> 00:36:17,175
Look at that.
707
00:36:18,051 --> 00:36:19,760
Yes.
708
00:36:19,761 --> 00:36:21,762
Oh, man.
709
00:36:21,763 --> 00:36:23,430
Got to have a little bit of white rib with it.
710
00:36:23,431 --> 00:36:25,474
Yeah.
711
00:36:25,475 --> 00:36:28,519
This is what everybody always
gets wrong in New York.
712
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,313
You serve cornbread with
barbecue, which, of course,
713
00:36:31,314 --> 00:36:32,898
falls into crumbles.
714
00:36:32,899 --> 00:36:35,485
You got to have that. Look at that.
715
00:36:38,071 --> 00:36:41,323
This is what we call pork spaghetti.
716
00:36:41,324 --> 00:36:43,660
Got to have some of that.
717
00:36:46,496 --> 00:36:48,246
Man, that sauce is nice, too.
718
00:36:48,247 --> 00:36:49,790
Perfect. Right?
719
00:36:49,791 --> 00:36:51,167
Red pepper.
720
00:36:51,168 --> 00:36:52,960
That's my dad's recipe.
721
00:36:52,961 --> 00:36:56,672
You do not the standard South
Carolina mustard dressing
722
00:36:56,673 --> 00:36:58,298
at all?
723
00:36:58,299 --> 00:36:59,591
Pissed at me about this because
724
00:36:59,592 --> 00:37:01,593
people feel strongly about these things.
725
00:37:01,594 --> 00:37:04,262
I was not liking that mustard thing.
726
00:37:04,263 --> 00:37:06,348
Around here you scream mustard, they'll think it's
727
00:37:06,349 --> 00:37:07,850
going on a hot dog.
728
00:37:07,851 --> 00:37:09,226
That's the only thing they know about mustard here.
729
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:10,477
Oh, good.
730
00:37:10,478 --> 00:37:12,771
Oh, man, that's just so good.
731
00:37:12,772 --> 00:37:15,983
How many hours, about, that pig is cooking?
732
00:37:15,984 --> 00:37:17,693
12 hours. About 12.
733
00:37:17,694 --> 00:37:18,986
You have to love it.
734
00:37:18,987 --> 00:37:20,445
You have to be head over heels
735
00:37:20,446 --> 00:37:22,280
in love with it to do that every day.
736
00:37:22,281 --> 00:37:23,824
I mean, do you ever get sick of eating barbecue?
737
00:37:23,825 --> 00:37:25,326
No, not yet.
738
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:33,667
What are we fishing for here?
739
00:37:33,668 --> 00:37:38,797
Well, out here we got spot tail
bass, flounder, sea trout.
740
00:37:38,798 --> 00:37:41,383
Really? -Yeah.
741
00:37:41,384 --> 00:37:43,970
I got you.
742
00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:49,767
The way you fish here, throw
it out as far as you can and
743
00:37:49,768 --> 00:37:51,476
just leave it.
744
00:37:51,477 --> 00:37:53,311
Just leave it?
745
00:37:53,312 --> 00:37:55,231
That's the cool thing about fishing out here.
746
00:37:55,232 --> 00:37:59,317
I don't have to be working,
not much skill involved.
747
00:37:59,318 --> 00:38:04,281
So how am I doing in learning
to be a red neck department?
748
00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:05,449
Not wearing shoes.
749
00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:07,159
You're looking good.
750
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,454
Without shoes on, a fishing
pole in your hand on a dock.
751
00:38:10,455 --> 00:38:12,540
That's pretty awesome.
752
00:38:21,507 --> 00:38:23,259
That's a different pace here, man.
753
00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:25,636
You know, this is the way to live.
754
00:38:25,637 --> 00:38:27,512
I enjoy it.
755
00:38:27,513 --> 00:38:28,680
Love that waffle house, man.
756
00:38:28,681 --> 00:38:31,475
I tell you, that was like a...
757
00:38:31,476 --> 00:38:33,644
I like your restaurant and all.
758
00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:37,564
I guess you're some kind of good
chef, but that waffle house.
759
00:38:37,565 --> 00:38:38,732
That is a phenomenon.
760
00:38:38,733 --> 00:38:40,986
It really is.
761
00:38:42,028 --> 00:38:44,072
♪
762
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:53,330
Peanuts with whiskey.
763
00:38:53,331 --> 00:38:54,539
Oh, yeah?
764
00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:56,584
♪
765
00:39:08,263 --> 00:39:09,805
That's good.
766
00:39:09,806 --> 00:39:11,223
That is nice.
767
00:39:11,224 --> 00:39:13,309
It's so good.
768
00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:17,313
How's the visit, too, to Charleston?
769
00:39:17,314 --> 00:39:19,064
It's been great.
770
00:39:19,065 --> 00:39:20,440
This is a special place.
771
00:39:20,441 --> 00:39:21,692
Really is.
772
00:39:21,693 --> 00:39:23,485
Very unique.
773
00:39:23,486 --> 00:39:28,573
It's been a lot of fun to watch
the food scene here go from
774
00:39:28,574 --> 00:39:30,826
kind of what everybody else is doing,
775
00:39:30,827 --> 00:39:34,579
was doing, to doing something very singular.
776
00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:37,124
Very special.
777
00:39:37,125 --> 00:39:40,044
And when you got a tradition
and when you have traditional
778
00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:44,631
recipes and a story behind food
like you have here, that's a
779
00:39:44,632 --> 00:39:46,383
really cool thing.
780
00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:50,137
Well, the thing is, I'm still
discovering stuff here.
781
00:39:50,138 --> 00:39:51,847
I've been here 12 years.
782
00:39:51,848 --> 00:39:54,516
The barbecue that Rodney gave us was sick, man.
783
00:39:54,517 --> 00:39:58,896
He is... he is a force to be reckoned with, man.
784
00:39:58,897 --> 00:40:04,693
You talk about Europe, everybody
travels hours to go, or travels
785
00:40:04,694 --> 00:40:07,612
hours by car.
786
00:40:07,613 --> 00:40:10,074
It's the same thing here.
We just do it for barbecue.
787
00:40:10,075 --> 00:40:11,367
Got a hit?
788
00:40:11,368 --> 00:40:13,327
I don't know. We'll see.
789
00:40:13,328 --> 00:40:14,494
Yeah.
790
00:40:14,495 --> 00:40:15,662
You did.
791
00:40:15,663 --> 00:40:17,122
It bit right below the hook.
792
00:40:17,123 --> 00:40:18,665
Yeah.
793
00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:20,167
So that's an intelligent
mother [ muted ] fish, too.
794
00:40:20,168 --> 00:40:21,920
Big and intelligent.
795
00:40:25,298 --> 00:40:27,591
Hook up under the bottom lip.
796
00:40:27,592 --> 00:40:29,468
Ouch.
797
00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:36,516
Open.
798
00:40:36,517 --> 00:40:38,102
Oh, he got my leg.
799
00:40:38,103 --> 00:40:42,147
He's an eel seeking...
800
00:40:42,148 --> 00:40:44,401
Where you think you're going, buddy?
801
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,071
One of those fish in the Amazon
802
00:40:49,072 --> 00:40:52,532
that swim up your...
803
00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:56,287
Nice try, buddy.
804
00:40:56,288 --> 00:40:58,038
♪
805
00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:02,252
♪ Ain't nobody on the water but
me but the sun's coming up ♪
806
00:41:05,297 --> 00:41:08,924
Who doesn't want to end with this?
807
00:41:08,925 --> 00:41:11,260
The old fishing hole. Quality bourbon.
808
00:41:11,261 --> 00:41:13,511
No need for shoes.
809
00:41:13,512 --> 00:41:17,183
I think the crab are just having a minnow buffet.
810
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,312
In such circumstances, whether
you actually catch any
811
00:41:21,313 --> 00:41:23,772
fish is completely beside the point.
812
00:41:23,773 --> 00:41:25,482
Come on, man, not bad for a Yankee.
813
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:26,650
Good, man.
814
00:41:26,651 --> 00:41:29,861
That was better than my last cast.
815
00:41:29,862 --> 00:41:34,659
♪ Making noise with the
alligator boys 20 miles east ♪
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