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The Rolling Stones sort of reinvented
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themselves as [music]
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purveyors of Americana in the late60s.
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>> [music]
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>> It brings about their greatest music
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because I don't think any British band
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has ever come so close to tapping
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[music] into the sort of soul of
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American roots music.
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[music]
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But if you measure the talent,
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it's incomparable. what you're actually
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talking about [music]
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is a wonderful rock and roll band. You
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know, they're out on their own.
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[music]
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That transition from the ' 60s into the
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'7s was the Stones moment. Sort of the
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debt of the dream was the Stones moment.
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Not we love you, not uh All We Need Is
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[music] Love, not all of that kind of
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stuff. But when everybody started to get
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the whiff of the fact, you know what?
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The revolution's [music] never going to
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happen.
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[music]
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In 1963, the Rolling Stones emerged from
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the British blues underground to storm
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the charts with a succession of
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inventive covers. The Ying to the
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Beatles Yang through the canny publicity
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of manager Andrew Lugen, they came to
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represent a more dangerous side of the
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booming teenage culture, offending
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parents whilst seducing their offspring.
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Originally formed by guitarist Brian
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Jones, the band's dynamics started to
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alter by the mid60s and after many
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singles in which they paid tribute to
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their blues and rock and roll heroes,
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the Stones began to work on original
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compositions.
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The key figures in transforming the band
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were lyricist and frontman McJagger and
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the quiet rhythm guitarist Keith
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Richards, whose songwriting partnership
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elevated the band to the top ranks of
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popular music in 1965 with their hit
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Satisfaction. The song just caught so
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much the tenor of the time. It was one
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of those songs that you know, you know,
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just became a kind of anthem
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immediately.
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I can't get enough.
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I can't [music] get enough.
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When I'm driving in my car and I'm going
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on [music] the radio
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[music]
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>> satisfaction is where the myth of Keith
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Richards as the human riff begins. Jacka
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then puts these fantastic words to it
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and and the Stones never look back. I
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mean, this is the pivotal moment in
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their development. The band continued to
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ride on a high throughout 1966. Their
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unmistakable raw sound bringing them to
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prominence in a market bursting with
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competition. I think that Jagger and
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Richards did bring something different
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into the whole British pop sound of the
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time and it was just really a kind of
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blacker edge. They just found a kind of
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voice really that was very different
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from that of the Beatles and indeed from
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the Kinks or anyone else. And it was it
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had a kind of swagger to it. Nowhere was
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that swagger more evident than on their
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hugely successful fourth album
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Aftermath, which proved a major artistic
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breakthrough in consisting solely of
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Jagger and Richard's originals.
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In keeping with the Times, the band
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promoted this record with a succession
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of singles and numerous tours. And at
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the end of 1966, they went to Olympic
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Studios to begin work on new material.
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In January 1967, the Stones unveiled the
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double A side in both the US and the UK.
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Ruby Tuesday and let's spend the night
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together.
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>> She [music] would never say where she
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came from
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[music]
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yesterday.
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Don't matter if it's gone.
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I think in a way Ruby Choosy could be
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looked upon as a sort of stones
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yesterday if you like. Um,
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interestingly, um, there's a lot of
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evidence that Brian Jones had a very
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strong creative input into the writing
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of that song. Apparently, him and Keith
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were sort of messing about on acoustic
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instruments in the studio. And Brian
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started playing something that was a
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cross between some Elizabeth and ballad
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and and an old blues by somebody called
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Skip James. Brian Jones actually wrote
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Ruby Tuesday
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had the idea and then got it together
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with Keith and Keith added to it and
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then somehow
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Mick started to get in on the act and it
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became out came out as a Jagger Richards
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composition but it was really a Brian
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Jones composition. I think they did
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tend,
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Keith and Mick, they did tend to
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plagiarize the ideas of others because
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apparently Bill Wyman came up with the
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central riff for Jumping Jack Flash,
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came up with it on piano and you know,
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Mick and Keith turned up at the studio
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said, you know, hey, that sounds good.
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And then they went away and worked on
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the riff and and sort of built it into a
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song. And apparently Bill was so
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insensed about it that he actually got a
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deputation of him Charlie and Brian
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together, you know, intending to go and
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confront Nick and Keith with this sort
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of thing. Um, but you know, apparently
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Charlie and Brian kind of lost heart.
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>> Goodbye. [music]
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Who could hang the name on you [music]
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when you change with every new day?
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Still, I'm [music] going to miss you.
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>> He's got a very English sound. I mean,
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for once, they're not looking to
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America. Although, when it comes to the
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vocal, Mick can't help doing his sort of
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American mannerisms. Um,
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I mean that Englishness had been there
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before in songs like Lady Jane and of
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course as As Tears Go By, but perhaps it
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reaches its its high point in Ruby
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Tuesday.
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>> At the end of January, the album Between
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the Buttons was released, a record
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dominated by the same pop sensibility
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that had characterized Ruby Tuesday. It
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was to be the Stone's final collection
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produced by manager Andrew Lug Olden.
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The most overlooked period of the Stones
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in a way is what I call phase two. Phase
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one is the R&B covers band. Uh phase
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three is the greatest rock and roll band
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in the world, the riffs, etc. Phase two,
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which is a brief period, it doesn't last
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very long, is the Rolling Stones pop
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band. And they wrote some fantastic
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songs in this period. and Between the
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Buttons as an album is probably the
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apotheiois of it. The social commentary
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of songs like Backstreet Girl.
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In a way, these songs deserve to be up
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there with the work of Ray Davis, who is
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always held up, of course, as as the
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great writer of these 60s English
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vignettes. And Jagger and Richard showed
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that that they could do it. Uh Ray Davis
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has carried on doing it. Rolling Stones
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went on to do something else, which is
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perhaps why they've not received the
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credit for it, but uh hugely underrated
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pop songwriters in that genre.
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>> Between the Buttons, it suffers from an
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appalling sound mix. I mean, there's
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there's some good songs on there. I
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think Miss Amanda Jones um and I'd much
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rather be with the boys that is from
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around that time. And um these are great
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songs, but they have terrible sound
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quality. You know, they everything's
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buried and muddy and it was all done in
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a big rush because
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65 66 the Stones were just touring all
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the time. They were they were doing like
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American tour after American tour and
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then they'd come and do a quick British
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one and it'd be like, "Oh, let's knock
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out an album." You know, we got three
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days or something like that and they'd
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be in and out and they'd leave the
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mixing to someone else.
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>> Something happened to me yesterday. the
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closer I I regard as one of the great
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Rolling Stone songs. A complete goof, a
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wonderful lyric. Uh uh really one of
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their absolutely classic performances
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and a very very one. Uh I don't think
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they ever did anything else like it. And
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uh it's such a goof and it's about
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musical, right? It's about British music
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hall.
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>> [music]
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>> Something very strange I hear you say.
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You're [music] talking in a most
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peculiar way.
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But something really threw me.
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Something also groovy.
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Something happened [music]
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to me yesterday.
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yesterday.
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>> The kind of authority
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>> that you like those early Rolling Stones
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albums had was certainly missing for
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something like Between the Buttons. You
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know, Between the Buttons is a charming
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record, but like you don't go to the
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Rolling Stones for charm. You know,
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there was you know those those uh you
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know 12x5 or the Rolling Stones now uh
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you know those records just had such
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heat and um and confidence. I think the
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Stones did struggle to find um a new
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direction around about the time of of
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Between the Buttons because they didn't
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have what the Beatles had. They didn't
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have that kind of sophistication
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in terms of songwriting or production in
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the studio and that's not what they were
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about. So there was some there was
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somewhere between the kind of um punky
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bad boys stance of satisfaction if you
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like and the um their own version of
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psychedelia on satanic majesties you
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know whereas the Beatles just forged
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ahead inventing a new language for pop.
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The Stones couldn't really keep up with
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that because they couldn't write ballads
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like McCartney and they were never going
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to be capable of something as ambitious
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as a day in the life.
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[music]
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>> The English army had just won the war.
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[music]
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The crowd of people turned away.
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But I just [music] have to look.
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Having read the book.
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[music]
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I think it was only when they returned
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to their essential kind of um blues
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animus if you like that that that spirit
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that essence that they they kind of got
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themselves properly on track with what
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the Rolling Stones were about and
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between the buttons you know uh is is a
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transitional uncertain record I think
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for that reason this uncertain period in
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the Stone's career was shattered by
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events following the album's release
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Keith Richard's Sussex home Redlands was
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raided by police. Jagger, Richards, and
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art dealer Robert Fraser were all later
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charged and jail sentences handed out
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harshly. This was front page news in
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Britain with many journalists damning
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the morality of pop stars and the
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emerging counterculture. While others
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saw these harsh sentences as
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persecution,
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the question over the effect that
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musicians had on the nation's youth rose
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to prominence once again. A national
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newspaper had tipped off the police to
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raid Keith Richard's house at West
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Wittering. In the house were found
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traces of cannabis resin and a pipe in
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which cannabis had been smoked. Evidence
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that an unnamed naked woman was sitting
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on a sofa with a rug around her was
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given in court today.
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>> As an idol of many young people in this
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country today, you have a very grave
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responsibility.
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>> It's a grave you know. How do you
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propose to
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>> exercise that now?
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>> Well, that's very difficult. One
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perhaps doesn't ask for
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responsibilities. Perhaps one is given
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responsibilities when one is uh
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uh pushed into the limelight in in this
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particular sphere rather than asking to
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be and asked to be pushed into this and
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in a way merely asked to be my private
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life to be left alone. So as it were my
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that my responsibilities as far as that
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goes are only to myself you know in in
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the public sector such as to do with my
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work my records and etc. I I have
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responsibility but in my private the
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amount of baths I take or my personal
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habits are of no
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consequence to anyone else. I don't
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think
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>> you mean that you were picked upon
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because you are who you are. I don't
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think we're picked on picked upon in
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that way because but it's just that
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applies to everybody. I mean the
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responsibility only applies to us
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because who we are.
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>> The news of the world had got Brian down
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to speak easy
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talking nonsense and offering pills and
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joins to everyone and they reported it
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as Jagger. Jagger immediately sued,
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spotted a wonderful opportunity, sued.
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And at that point, the news of the
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world, I think, felt that their best
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counter strategy was to uh was to set up
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a bust,
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which I think is what happened.
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there was a consciousness in the United
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States about what was going on with the
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Stones uh in in the kind of burgeoning
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counterculture because there was a sense
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in which a lot of people were starting
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to take drugs and you know that element
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of who was going to get targeted or you
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know what the risks were you know really
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came to the four with the Rolling Stones
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and of course then you know the who and
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to a degree the Beatles you know
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speaking out in support
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just was one of those moments when you
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realize well this is the counterculture.
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This is something else. This is you know
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this is more than just a kind of um you
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know a momentary blip in pop culture
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like this is going to be a cultural
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battle and in many ways uh you know
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those battles are still being fought but
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you know the Stones were at the heart of
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it because they became the target.
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>> While the media frenzy continued [music]
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the group focused on the recording of
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their next album. Over the past 2 years,
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the psychedelia movement spearheaded by
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writer [music] and psychologist Timothy
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Liry had begun to take hold of the youth
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culture in America and its acid soaked
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philosophy [music] proceeded to change
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the sound of modern music. The work that
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the Stones created during these sessions
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[music] very much reflected the times
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and in August a new double Aite was
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released [music] that surprised both
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audiences and critics. We love you and
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dandelion.
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>> [music]
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[music]
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>> Psychedelia, I think, was a blind alley
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to the Stones because, you know, the
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whole psychedelic ethos was love and
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peace and community. And I don't think
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the Stones were ever about community,
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you know. I think they were about
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individualism at the extreme.
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[music]
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>> It doesn't quite ring true the
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sentiment, does it? The little film they
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made with um Keith as the judge and
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Marian Faithful as Boosezy or whatever.
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I mean, I think that probably is a truer
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reflection of their of their feelings.
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Um, I don't think they had a great deal
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of love for Ben Coffers.
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I think there was a great danger with We
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Love You.
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It's a common danger with topical
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singles is what happens to them if
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they're no longer topical. But I mean, I
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think if you boil it down that um We
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love you is only topical because it had
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the sound of slamming jail doors in it,
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you know, relating to the, you know, the
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drugs case.
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It certainly stands up more than the
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other side of it. Dandelion. I mean, in
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a way, that double A sign was a concept
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single as opposed to a concept album
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because a little vignette of We Love You
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is actually at the end of Dandelion. In
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December, after the sentences for Jagger
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and Richard's drug case were overturned,
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the Stones finally released their
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satanic majesty's request. Its tracks
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were characterized by the same
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psychedelic experimentation as We Love
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You, and it was certainly the Stone's
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most atypical album so far. Yet it
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divided critics and many felt that the
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band were losing their unique voice.
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>> They were very spaced out when they made
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it and the album was very spaced out as
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a result of it. They were trying
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desperately to do something which in
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some way would play catchup to the
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Beatles psychedelic
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Sergeant Peppers and they came up with
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their satanic majesties. It was far too
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indulgent,
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not directed or controlled enough, and
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it just became a kind of um
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piece of self-indulgent nonsense really.
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Yet, Brian Jones, in an increasingly
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troubled mental and physical state, once
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again introduced new musical elements to
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the band's tracks, and his
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experimentation was a key part of the
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album's sonic construction.
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>> That was the sort of album on which he
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could come into his own. He had this
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ability to pick up almost any instrument
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from a sitar to a a mandolin to
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whatever. And uh coax interesting sounds
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out of it. And an album like Satanic
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Majesties gave him the the opportunity
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to do that. [music]
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[music]
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Heat. Heat.
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[music]
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>> [music]
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[music]
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>> Ryan was in his element. I mean, he
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could have brought like a food mixer
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into the studio and, you know, they
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probably would have let him stick that
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on. You know, it was that kind of
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atmosphere. But it was ill advised and
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and also the the cover, you know, trying
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to outdo the Beatles, but oh, we'll have
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a three-dimensional cover, you know,
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that'll beat their Sergeant Pepper with
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all the faces on, you know, it really
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was a a race. Was it like
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Sergeant Pepper? Well, that's an
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absurdity. The only way it was like
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Sergeant Pepper was that it had a really
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strange cover. A lot of the songs are
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very strong. They're very good
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songwriters, Jagger and Richards, you
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know, and they didn't write many Bluff
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songs back then. They were hitting it
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almost every time.
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Uh, some of them were more trivial than
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others, and I would say that's true of
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several of the songs on that record. But
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as melodic and rhythmic constructions,
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they're strong.
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[music]
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[music]
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in [singing] the GP.
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[music]
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It's so very lonely. [music]
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Your 600
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years.
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I think they were really in a bit of a
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mess around the time of Satanic
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Majesties, [music]
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not least because Brian Jones was really
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going off the rails. And I think the
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Stones felt slightly
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um out of place in that whole Carnobby
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Street CFDAN wearing era because they
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they knew it wasn't really them.
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It didn't really answer particularly to
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what Keith Richards was about. You know,
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Keith Richards was not George Harrison.
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He was really still wiied to a notion of
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music as black rooted and intense and
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soulful. He was not interested in beads
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and bells. It's not serious.
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But on the other hand,
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it's not simply parody.
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Uh it's not as if there's no sense that
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um that they're not interested in these
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realms of experience, this kind of
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fantasy, this kind of sense of
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psychological possibility. Uh they
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they're dabbling in it in an interested
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way.
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certainly not convinced because they're
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never convinced of anything. But on the
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other hand, not just making fun of it.
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Uh and
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and not only because had they done that,
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they would have really outraged uh the
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fan base, but also because that was uh
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their attitude. I think I don't know
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with them. You never really know, but
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that's what I that's the way I take it
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and it's the way it comes off.
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She comes in [music] colors everywhere.
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She combs her hair. She's like [music] a
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rainbow.
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Come in colors in the air.
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Everywhere
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she comes in [music] color.
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[music]
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I've campaigned over the years actually
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for its rehabilitation and written
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articles claiming it as a as a lost
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classic because I really do think it is.
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I think as a an album of late60s
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psychedelia, it's quite superb. And I
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don't well I do understand why people
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don't like it. People don't like it
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because they're comparing it against
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Jumping Jack Flash and Exile on Main
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Street. Uh you know, but if you if you
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listen to it alongside
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other whimsical English psychedelic
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records of 1967-68,
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it's a great album. Although his unique
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contributions lifted the album, Brian
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was becoming increasingly isolated
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within the band. Having lost his
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girlfriend Anita Palenberg to Richards,
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Jones's drug use was spiraling out of
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control. And despite his status as a
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founding member of the band, his future
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as a Rolling Stone seemed uncertain.
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Ryan quite quickly began to feel odd man
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out largely because of Keith and Mick's
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writing collaboration
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and uh there was a kind of undercurrent
548
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that this guy who considered himself to
549
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be the you know the leader had suddenly
550
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been eclipsed both by Mick as a frontman
551
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and the Jagger Richard's writing
552
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combination.
553
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So he was
554
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um a little isolated as a result of
555
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that. He was both being eased out and
556
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,840
easing himself out of the Rolling Stones
557
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commitment by his lack of responsibility
558
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to the band and his lack of effort. He
559
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:37,039
was rejecting them in the same way as
560
00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:39,840
they were rejecting him in a way. You
561
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,440
know, he would turn up for recording
562
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,960
sessions and just lie on his back
563
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,520
looking at the ceiling. [music]
564
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Jones's despondency allowed Keith
565
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Richards to flourish. After the
566
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uncertainty [music] of their previous
567
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albums, he turned his back on Carnaby
568
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Street and British Psychedelia. And as
569
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in the earliest days of the Stones,
570
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looked to America for [music]
571
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inspiration.
572
00:26:05,467 --> 00:26:07,487
[music]
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[music]
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They toured a lot in America throughout
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the sort of period of [music] screaming
576
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hysterical girls and poppier songs like
577
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get off my cloud [music] or whatever,
578
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you know. And there was a there was a
579
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lot of time spent in America
580
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soaking up what this vast country meant,
581
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the mythology of this place. and they
582
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toured in the south and and Keith was
583
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buying records which um by his own
584
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:42,799
admission he never really had time to
585
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:48,080
listen to. Uh, and then come sort of 67,
586
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,159
you know, the Stones were finally able
587
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to take a little bit of time off, get
588
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off the treadmill. And Richards has said
589
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that he, you know, he he actually
590
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unpacked a lot of these records he'd
591
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bought and started, you know, absorbing
592
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himself in American music again. You
593
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,679
know, he he started studying it again.
594
00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:10,559
And I think that coupled with the way
595
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the Stones had been scapegoated and
596
00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:17,039
vilified by the British establishment um
597
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:20,640
with the whole Redlands bust, it just it
598
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,600
kind of focused him again. And in 1968,
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you know, when flower power had faded
600
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away and and you know, all that sort of
601
00:27:29,919 --> 00:27:32,799
al Capone chic had passed through as
602
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,120
well, there were there was a certain
603
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,159
element of rock and roll revival.
604
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You know, you got sort of reissues of
605
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,200
things like Rave On and Rock Around the
606
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,720
Clock were actually getting into the
607
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,880
lower reaches of the charts and, you
608
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,559
know, something like Lady Madonna
609
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:51,679
sounded very much like Fats Domino. And
610
00:27:51,679 --> 00:27:54,880
there were also a very
611
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,399
strong element of plain and unadorned
612
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albums coming out particularly by
613
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somebody like Bob Dylan John Wesley
614
00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:04,399
Harding which just Dylan's voice were
615
00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:06,480
just sort of you know guitar bass drums
616
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,120
in the background very simple very sort
617
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of stripped down and the stones lent an
618
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:15,600
ear to this I mean another strong
619
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,520
influence and this is kind of connected
620
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,880
to um to Dylan was music from Big Pink
621
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,329
by the band.
622
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[music]
623
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[music]
624
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:36,159
I picked up all of my winning and I gave
625
00:28:36,159 --> 00:28:39,600
my little pess hand. [music]
626
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,559
She tore it up and threw it in my face
627
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:45,679
just for a laugh. [music]
628
00:28:45,679 --> 00:28:48,640
Now there's one thing in the whole wide
629
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,799
world I would like to see. [music]
630
00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:56,424
That's when that love of mine.
631
00:28:56,424 --> 00:28:58,080
[music]
632
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,320
And what they did, the Stones came up
633
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,000
with something that kind of went back to
634
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the sort of bedrock, I suppose, of of
635
00:29:08,399 --> 00:29:10,000
1964,
636
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,880
but was allied to modern technology.
637
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,360
In February 1968, the Stones announced
638
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,720
that they were going to be working with
639
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,720
American producer Jimmy Miller in an
640
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,480
attempt to realize the new sound that
641
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,399
they were looking for. Miller had
642
00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:26,159
successfully broadened the sound of the
643
00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:28,240
band traffic, and with the Stone's next
644
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,840
release, he and Richard steered the
645
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,520
group away from the more elaborate
646
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,039
tendencies of psychedelic music.
647
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,760
I went to a small
648
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,440
recording studio in Morton, M O R D,
649
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:46,399
Morton, and uh there was my mate Stu and
650
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Mick and Keith in the studio. And they
651
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,799
played me. I think I was probably the
652
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:52,559
first music journalist to hear Jumping
653
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:54,640
Jack Flash.
654
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,720
And I listened to it and I This is
655
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,679
amazing. This is a totally different
656
00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:02,159
sound from what you've actually been
657
00:30:02,159 --> 00:30:04,399
doing before. Where have you got it
658
00:30:04,399 --> 00:30:09,039
from? And Keith gave me some convoluted
659
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:12,159
explanation of how he'd recorded his
660
00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:14,320
guitar through a Philips cassette
661
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,039
player, stood the microphone in front of
662
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,039
the amp. I didn't really understand it.
663
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:21,840
I'm not technically that good, you know,
664
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,679
but I knew that he was telling me, you
665
00:30:23,679 --> 00:30:25,279
know, they this was how they got the
666
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:26,960
sound. And I knew the sound was was
667
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,600
something special. It was thick and it
668
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,120
was all enveloping and it was exciting
669
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,760
and it was rock
670
00:30:39,261 --> 00:30:41,281
[music]
671
00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:47,399
and by hurricane
672
00:30:48,159 --> 00:30:50,451
and I [music]
673
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,200
driving
674
00:30:54,326 --> 00:30:54,559
[music]
675
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:57,039
>> pop was still singles and it was moving
676
00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:00,480
really fast and you have a period of I
677
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,000
don't know maybe a year maybe longer
678
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,840
where the stones have no single uh We
679
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,399
love you was a moderate hit. Uh Satanic
680
00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:12,240
Majesty's
681
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,320
pald by comparison with the Beatles
682
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,120
stuff. Um the stones seemed
683
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,720
to have vanished more or less. I mean,
684
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,640
if you were a 14, 15y old music fan in
685
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,600
England, the stones seem to have faded.
686
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,760
So, the impact the jumping jack flash
687
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,640
made at the time is hard to understand
688
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,159
now. I mean, you had to be there at the
689
00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:36,559
time to uh, you know, suddenly the
690
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:39,760
silence was broken and with a bang, you
691
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,240
know, with a great record.
692
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,120
Jumping Jack Flash was the turning point
693
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,880
and I think that was the point at which
694
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,200
Keith really took started to take over
695
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,200
the sound
696
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,960
of the band because he'd now got his
697
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,480
confidence right and he realized that
698
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,760
he'd done something a bit special. Just
699
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,039
the fact that he decided to kind of, you
700
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:03,760
know, experiment with recording the
701
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,960
guitar that quite sort of punky lowfi
702
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,200
way is sort of such a it's such a
703
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,440
rejection of of the over orchestrated
704
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,080
aspects of of Satanic Majesties. And
705
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,159
it's just almost like saying we're a
706
00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:21,880
punk rock band.
707
00:32:23,407 --> 00:32:23,600
>> [music]
708
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,647
>> Now it's a super
709
00:32:28,647 --> 00:32:30,159
[music]
710
00:32:30,159 --> 00:32:33,799
I'm jumping jack.
711
00:32:39,127 --> 00:32:41,120
[music]
712
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,519
>> People like Jimmy Miller coming onto the
713
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,279
scene from America were very important
714
00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:47,120
too at this time. They did give them a
715
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,120
kind of transatlantic
716
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,360
sound if you want to call it that. kind
717
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,720
of uh ubiquitous
718
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,799
Americana with the Brit rock, pop,
719
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:00,159
whatever you want to call it thing as
720
00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:02,799
well, which was an amalgamation of of
721
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:05,519
their um of their sound. Jimmy Miller
722
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:07,760
was was a very clever drummer. He
723
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,360
actually played drums on one of the
724
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,279
tracks, I think. I I'm not sure. He
725
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:13,120
certainly had a stab at Jumping Jack
726
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,880
Flash at one time. And there was one
727
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,279
track he did that Charlie couldn't do,
728
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:18,720
and I think he's actually he actually
729
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,320
does play it on the album. Charlie was
730
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,840
very good about that actually. He said
731
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,039
afterwards, I remember doing an
732
00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:24,480
interview with him and he said Jimmy
733
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,559
Miller taught me something about
734
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:28,080
drumming at that point and I always
735
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,480
remembered it. He wasn't a great live
736
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,919
drummer, but he was a good drummer in
737
00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:35,919
the studio and um Charlie was as usual
738
00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:38,320
very gracious about that sort of thing,
739
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,919
which you know somebody else might have
740
00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:42,480
been quite pissed off about. I would
741
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,960
suspect but Jimmy Miller was was an
742
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,720
important
743
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,519
factor in in Beggar's Banquet success. I
744
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:50,240
think
745
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,000
>> Jimmy Miller was incredibly important to
746
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,919
the Rolling Stones. I mean, Keith aptly
747
00:33:53,919 --> 00:33:56,320
described him an incredible rhythm man,
748
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,559
you know, and when you listen to, you
749
00:33:58,559 --> 00:33:59,919
know, those records he produced with
750
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:02,720
with with the Stones, everything is a
751
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,159
rhythm instrument, you know, Jagger's
752
00:34:04,159 --> 00:34:07,120
vocal, the guitars, everything's moving.
753
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,399
The cowbells, all of this stuff is is is
754
00:34:10,399 --> 00:34:11,679
rolling through. He'd get into the
755
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,119
studio and play them himself, you know,
756
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:14,800
something that, you know, something that
757
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,760
the Stones would absolutely respect. And
758
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,359
when Jumping Jack Flash came out, it was
759
00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:20,879
like, you know, somebody just kind of
760
00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:23,839
went it just kind of blew the fog away.
761
00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:25,440
I remember a friend of mine, you know,
762
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,040
we were kids, it just kind of come up to
763
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,720
me and just said, "God, have you heard
764
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:30,480
the new Stone single? It sounds like
765
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,800
Chuck Barry, you know, like it that was
766
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,800
a good thing, you know, that was a sense
767
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,960
of, you know, the Stones kind of getting
768
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,200
back to what they did best." In June,
769
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,960
the Stones and Jimmy Miller returned to
770
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,720
the studio to begin work on an album
771
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:44,480
that would push them even further in
772
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,359
this new direction. This process was in
773
00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:49,119
turn captured by the French filmmaker
774
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,440
Jeanluke Godar who at the height of his
775
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,000
powers in the 1960s shot a typically
776
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,079
idiosyncratic documentary around the
777
00:34:56,079 --> 00:34:58,000
recording of one of the album's standout
778
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,320
tracks, Sympathy for the Devil.
779
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,480
>> I went to Olympic Studios in Barnes. I
780
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,240
would sometimes because I was quite
781
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:07,760
close to them in the early days because
782
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,960
I knew Stu, I could sort of drop in at
783
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,960
the studios and they wouldn't mind as
784
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,320
long as I didn't make a nuisance of
785
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,560
myself. So I did, you know, coming back
786
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,160
from the Scotch of St. James on the
787
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Adelib and I remember going to the
788
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,960
studio one night and just walking in and
789
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,800
Jeanluke Godard was doing Sympathy with
790
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,760
the Devil. I was filming it and I
791
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,359
thought, "What the hell? This is
792
00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:31,200
amazing. What is this?" You know, this
793
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,240
is another total departure from anything
794
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,720
the Stones had done before.
795
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:40,640
And Marianne was there and uh she said
796
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,200
that it stemmed from a book that she'd
797
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,240
given Mick called The Master Margarita.
798
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,720
She'd given the book to Mick. Mick had
799
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:51,440
got the inspiration for for Sympathy
800
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,160
with the Devil from that book.
801
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,720
And I was listening to it in kind of
802
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:58,560
fragments in the studio. I didn't really
803
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,320
get the full impact of it, but I did
804
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,520
know that there was something really
805
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,839
different going down. Well, Keith, I
806
00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:05,599
thought of having the solo on the third
807
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:08,160
on the fourth one instead of the
808
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,160
>> because that's the way it's the way it
809
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,160
sort of is, you know, the last verse is
810
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,119
different.
811
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:13,839
>> Okay.
812
00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:15,680
>> So, we'll have it like three verses
813
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,119
straight through and then the solo
814
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:21,359
>> should start off very cool. Should be
815
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:23,850
very cool. [music]
816
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[music]
817
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just [music]
818
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>> Godar despite being at the very high end
819
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of cinema was a complete cinema guy and
820
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,040
that means he was a complete he was
821
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,720
completely interested in the development
822
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,920
of popular culture in masculine feminina
823
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,839
for example a film he shot in ' 65 he'
824
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:54,640
taken a French a young French pop star
825
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,599
and used her as the uh main uh uh
826
00:36:57,599 --> 00:36:59,760
character difficult to say exactly what
827
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,240
god I was aiming at but on the oneplus 1
828
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,960
in general is an attempt on the one hand
829
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,119
to take the creation of a track of the
830
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,280
rolling stones at that time and
831
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,599
juxtapose it with a whole lot of ideas
832
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:16,880
about black power revolution feminism
833
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,880
etc.
834
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,760
>> It seems to me that the attempt to
835
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,200
conjugate all those other things
836
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,960
together really doesn't work. There's
837
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,720
moments of humor and there's moments of
838
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,359
insight. On the other hand, as an actual
839
00:37:31,359 --> 00:37:33,359
documentary of the Stones actually
840
00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:36,560
recording a song, you have all Godar's
841
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,640
kind of brilliance at actually recording
842
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,280
the moment. Um, I don't think he thought
843
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,040
of it any in any way as a simple
844
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,359
documentary, but in many ways the force
845
00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:47,119
of the film is actually to really show
846
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:50,256
you the Stones recording a song.
847
00:37:50,256 --> 00:37:52,276
[music]
848
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,320
As well as documenting the recording
849
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,560
process, Godar was also able to capture
850
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,240
the changing dynamics between the
851
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,720
various members of the band. When you
852
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:06,640
see the Godard film, Sympathy for the
853
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,599
Devil, you see this sad figure of Brian
854
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:13,280
Jones in another world and he's in his
855
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,119
little booth playing his guitar with his
856
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:16,880
headphones on and he's not even aware
857
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,680
that they've actually turned turned his
858
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,839
sound off. you know, he's not even going
859
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:24,880
into the mixing board and he's there in
860
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,160
his own little world, absolutely
861
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,160
out of it. Keith steps into
862
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,320
this void. I mean, again, it's very
863
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,280
interesting if if if if you look at the
864
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,040
Godard film, um, you know, half the time
865
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,599
it's not even Bill Wyman playing bass.
866
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:46,240
Keith is picking up the bass and he and
867
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,480
Jagger are really driving it by this
868
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,000
stage. There's another bit in the film
869
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,079
where Jagger turns to Charlie Watts and
870
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:53,440
says, "Oh, you know, for heaven's sake,
871
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,240
Charlie, put some life into it." And the
872
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:58,160
two of them, Mick and Keith, at this
873
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,000
point, are are absolutely driven.
874
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,079
Godar's film was released in November
875
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:06,640
1968, a week before the release of the
876
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,119
album Beggar's Banquet. Although many
877
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:11,359
fans were bewildered by Godarr's work,
878
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:13,359
the track Sympathy for the Devil opened
879
00:39:13,359 --> 00:39:15,119
the new record and would become another
880
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:18,682
classic in the Stones cannon.
881
00:39:18,682 --> 00:39:19,440
>> [music]
882
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,922
>> Please allow me to introduce myself. I'm
883
00:39:23,922 --> 00:39:27,320
[music] 12.
884
00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:30,400
I've been around for a long [music] long
885
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,640
years. So many soul.
886
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Sympathy for the devil is
887
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,960
melodically not that interesting, but
888
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,920
rhythmically it's a fabulous track. Uh,
889
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,680
and we have the Godard stuff, the
890
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,880
oneplus one um thing where they clearly
891
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,119
they have no idea how to take it at all.
892
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:53,040
You know, they're trying it as a ballad,
893
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,280
they try it as a sambber, they try it
894
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,240
and eventually they hit on this thing
895
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:00,240
and Anita comes up with the woo woo is
896
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:03,119
the witches chorus and uh, you know, the
897
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,920
whole thing falls into place.
898
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,000
If you take a title like sympathy for
899
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,480
the devil, you know, that's a very
900
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,599
different kind of idea than this kind of
901
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:16,640
angelic 60s vision that we've been
902
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,800
given. And almost in a kind of Blakeian
903
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,680
way, you know, the Stones and and a lot
904
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,040
of other people, I mean, obviously, you
905
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,960
know, Jimmy Pager, you know, in a in a
906
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,079
in a different and and harsher way.
907
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:29,920
Obviously, Charles Manson. I mean, you
908
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,839
know, this kind of stuff was in the air
909
00:40:31,839 --> 00:40:35,920
as as the 60s began to fade. And you
910
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,240
know there was a kind of fascination
911
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:39,760
with
912
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,599
um
913
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:42,960
you know what's on the other side of
914
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,599
this coin you know what you know well if
915
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:46,880
you know if we're not getting back to
916
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,800
Eden you know what are the other
917
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,720
possibilities
918
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:54,119
to meet [music] you
919
00:40:58,243 --> 00:40:59,200
[music]
920
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,520
is just a
921
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,520
Sympathy
922
00:41:06,319 --> 00:41:08,240
to the Devil is an incredibly important
923
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,119
even [music] anthemic song. And what it
924
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:14,560
tells us is that um we are no longer in
925
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,680
this sort of dizzy utopia of LSD and
926
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,760
flowers and love and peace. And Satan is
927
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,800
sexy suddenly, you know, and the stones
928
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,200
more than anyone else in that period
929
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,200
flirted with the diabolical.
930
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,880
And it had a lot to do with an idea of
931
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:43,040
decadence that was endemic to uh
932
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,920
the smart set in London if you like that
933
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,079
the Stones were welcomed into and it
934
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:53,760
tapped into Alistister Crowley. It
935
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:59,040
tapped into a tradition of devilry if
936
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,119
you like that's always been there on the
937
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:05,520
kind of fringes of English culture. This
938
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,920
is a big part of what the Stones are
939
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,839
doing here, you know, and it taps into
940
00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:12,079
blues mythology. Robert Johnson,
941
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,599
Hellhound on my trail.
942
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,359
>> Me
943
00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:20,240
hellhound on my trail. Hell out [music]
944
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,359
on my tail.
945
00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:26,669
On my tail.
946
00:42:26,669 --> 00:42:28,160
[music]
947
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,560
>> This is This is a big part of what The
948
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,800
Stones are steeped in.
949
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,319
>> Beggar's Banquet was released in
950
00:42:34,319 --> 00:42:37,119
December 1968 and was instantly hailed
951
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,839
as a masterpiece. Both a return to
952
00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:42,160
basics and a significant progression.
953
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,920
This collection of powerful songs
954
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,920
reclaimed the Stone's position as one of
955
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,359
the greatest acts in popular music.
956
00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:52,240
There was a real reaction to just the
957
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:56,240
volume and overkill really of 1967
958
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,319
where there was you know Hrix really I
959
00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:00,160
suppose in cream you know beggar's
960
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,359
banquet was you know was full of country
961
00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:07,200
blues and playful Appalachian sort of
962
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,599
country arrangements string band
963
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:13,119
arrangements you know factory girl dear
964
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:16,880
doctor prodigal son it sounds really
965
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,960
authentic to me I mean sounds like a
966
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,440
bunch of, you know, decadent
967
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,720
English white boys, but but who really
968
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:27,920
are immersed in the feel of that music
969
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,560
and they really do it really well. You
970
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,920
know, this isn't paste. Take me [music]
971
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,160
to the station
972
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:44,000
and put me on [music] the train.
973
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,890
I've got no expectations
974
00:43:47,890 --> 00:43:49,839
[music]
975
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:52,880
to pass
976
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,805
through here [music]
977
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:59,240
again.
978
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:02,560
What's interesting, I think, listening
979
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,800
to to Beggar's Banquet today is
980
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,200
how almost folky some of it sounds.
981
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,440
There's a lot of acoustic guitars on
982
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,200
there. I mean, some great riffs on
983
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,880
there. Uh, but it's not nearly as heavy
984
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,079
as some of the the later albums. And
985
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,560
it's got a very appealing
986
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,560
um
987
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,720
slightly ramshackle
988
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:28,880
semi acoustic
989
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,640
feel to it.
990
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,000
>> They're really kind of digging deep into
991
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,720
the sort of roots of of of American
992
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,119
music and they're throwing off the sort
993
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:42,560
of spangled cloak of flower power. We're
994
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:43,680
just not interested in that anymore.
995
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,000
We're not interested in debutants. We're
996
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,440
really now interested in in this idea of
997
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,720
America. it brings about their greatest
998
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:55,040
music because I don't think any British
999
00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:00,960
band has ever come so close to
1000
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,560
tapping into the sort of soul of of of
1001
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,960
American roots music.
1002
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,960
>> Jagger's approach to lyrics was also
1003
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,200
evolving and with this new set of tracks
1004
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,720
he seemed to be finding his own
1005
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:15,599
distinctive voice. there was a a sort of
1006
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:19,119
element of Jagger just kind of as a
1007
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:22,640
writer I think really engaging the times
1008
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,640
you know street fighting man I mean the
1009
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,200
kind of ironic anthem an ironic
1010
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,359
political anthem you know this kind of
1011
00:45:29,359 --> 00:45:32,000
sense of frustration at the same time as
1012
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,400
you know we're a band you know we're not
1013
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,440
you know we're not leading the
1014
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,640
revolution
1015
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,839
>> everywhere [music]
1016
00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:42,516
I hear the sound of March and char
1017
00:45:42,516 --> 00:45:44,536
[music]
1018
00:45:47,101 --> 00:45:50,800
[music] and the time is right for rising
1019
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,361
in the street. [music]
1020
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,640
Street Fighting Man was very reflective
1021
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,480
of the period in time with people on the
1022
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,079
streets for one reason or another,
1023
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:02,880
whether it was CND or antivietnam or
1024
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,880
whatever it was. It was very reflective
1025
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,440
of student unrest and young people's
1026
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,760
disenchantment with the government and
1027
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,560
the authority of the times. But I don't
1028
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,839
think he was leading that. He was simply
1029
00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:21,200
looking at the papers and the news and
1030
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,079
seeing what was going on and then
1031
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:28,680
reflecting it as a younger person.
1032
00:46:29,022 --> 00:46:31,042
[music]
1033
00:46:34,262 --> 00:46:35,040
[music]
1034
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:40,079
had done down there. Just no place for
1035
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:43,079
man.
1036
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:46,707
No.
1037
00:46:46,707 --> 00:46:48,160
[music]
1038
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,280
Most great rock songs reflect the
1039
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,280
attitude of the audience and the
1040
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,920
generation at the time
1041
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,160
and the way that they feel. They hold a
1042
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,160
mirror up to the audience and they
1043
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,200
reflect back at each other.
1044
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,440
That's what rock music actually does.
1045
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,599
>> Even as the Stones were in a sense
1046
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:11,280
coming apart, I mean, because this, you
1047
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,800
know, in a sense that record is about
1048
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,760
the the dissolution of Brian Jones, it
1049
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,280
also announced a kind of resurgence of
1050
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,599
the Rolling Stones chronicling a very
1051
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:25,280
complicated and troubled time. And not,
1052
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,760
you know, this wasn't flower power. You
1053
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,119
know, this is definitely sort of
1054
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,440
postflower power. is a kind of
1055
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,599
understanding of what was ahead.
1056
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:35,440
>> In keeping with this darker vision of
1057
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,000
the 1960s, Jagger had spent the months
1058
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,440
following the recording of Beggar's
1059
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,400
Banquet on his first major acting role.
1060
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,240
The project, which the singer had been
1061
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:46,000
involved in since its early development
1062
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,480
stages, was the brainchild of writer and
1063
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,520
artist Donald Camel, a disturbing and
1064
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,839
dreamlike evocation of late 1960s
1065
00:47:53,839 --> 00:47:55,520
Britain called Performance.
1066
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,760
>> Camel had known Jagger for a very, very
1067
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,079
long time. Jagger had become part of the
1068
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:03,760
Chelsea set of which Camel was a member
1069
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,119
um very early on certainly by 1965 and
1070
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:09,119
they had talked about doing a film
1071
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:11,200
together for a very long time. So Jagger
1072
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,880
was in place um uh funnily enough Jagger
1073
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,480
was in place from the moment Brando
1074
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,640
dropped out because the the the very
1075
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,200
very very original idea was that Brando
1076
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,760
was going to play the gangster. After
1077
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,880
Brando dropped out, Jagger was there for
1078
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,480
at least two or three years while the
1079
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,520
script developed uh from something quite
1080
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,280
different or relatively different to the
1081
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,920
script we know today. Jagger's own
1082
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,319
performance as the faded rockstar Turner
1083
00:48:38,319 --> 00:48:40,400
colliding with an East End gangster was
1084
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,319
notable in its similarities to Brian
1085
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:44,559
Jones, and Camel had indeed based
1086
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,319
elements of the film on the lifestyle of
1087
00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:48,720
the Rolling Stones founding member.
1088
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:52,240
There's no question that the house in P
1089
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:55,839
Square is based in many ways on the
1090
00:48:55,839 --> 00:48:58,960
Jones House in Courtney Road and the
1091
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,280
Jones and Palenburg house. It's
1092
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,920
decorated in the same manner and Jagger
1093
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,400
uses many of Jones's uh mannerisms.
1094
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,359
>> Why?
1095
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:11,440
>> Because you're afraid of him.
1096
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,160
>> Yes. Right. Right. [snorts]
1097
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,800
and he's afraid too
1098
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,200
>> of you.
1099
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,920
>> At the same time, it's not simply a
1100
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,680
documentary account of Jones. Uh, it's a
1101
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,599
great deal to do with Camel. I mean, in
1102
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:31,760
some sense, it's autobiographically,
1103
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,880
it's it's it's most strongly about Camel
1104
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,319
himself.
1105
00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:37,839
>> Sorry to disturb. Has anyone got a
1106
00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:40,480
sixpiece for the phone?
1107
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,839
>> Uh, can I uh use the blower up here? We
1108
00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:47,359
haven't got a blower up here.
1109
00:49:47,359 --> 00:49:49,359
>> What in God's name has he done to his
1110
00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:51,839
hair?
1111
00:49:51,839 --> 00:49:53,359
>> He's blown it.
1112
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:55,680
>> Yeah. Well, that's it, dear. I got to
1113
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,200
bring up my agent again.
1114
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,480
>> Oh, I fancy the red.
1115
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,920
>> No. No. It was the red diet.
1116
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,400
>> Dead. Died.
1117
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:06,400
Red.
1118
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,440
>> Died. It dead.
1119
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,160
>> Red. Red.
1120
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,119
Van Go. Oh, no. This is the normal.
1121
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:17,839
>> The normal?
1122
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:19,760
>> Yeah. I was just having a laugh. Having
1123
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,599
a laugh, you see, with my act, with my
1124
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:23,520
image.
1125
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,319
>> You know what I mean?
1126
00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:27,280
>> Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
1127
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,200
>> Thought you would. Uh, he reckons, my
1128
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,319
agent, that uh, time for a change.
1129
00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:37,599
>> It's time for a change.
1130
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:39,680
It's the dark side of the sort of
1131
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,640
swinging London 60s, isn't it really?
1132
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,119
With Donald Camel obviously being
1133
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:47,520
related to Alistister Crowley and the
1134
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,839
fact that Anita's in there as well, you
1135
00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:52,400
know, it's it's like you you you can't
1136
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,079
make this stuff up. It's just such a
1137
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:57,680
sort of perfect kind of dramatization of
1138
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,680
of the the forces that were sort of
1139
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,559
swirling around at that time.
1140
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:04,319
After endless battles with Warner
1141
00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:06,480
Brothers and several recuts, the film
1142
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,480
was finally given a limited US release
1143
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,040
in 1970 and a much more successful
1144
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,359
release in Britain the following year.
1145
00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:15,680
Critical reaction was however very
1146
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,225
divided.
1147
00:51:17,225 --> 00:51:19,245
[music]
1148
00:51:31,635 --> 00:51:32,720
>> [music]
1149
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:34,960
>> Whereas the film drew some criticism,
1150
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,280
its soundtrack was remarkable, including
1151
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,440
a standout track by the score composer
1152
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,839
Jack Nicher and MC Jagger, Memo from
1153
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:43,520
Turner.
1154
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,599
Memo from Turner is is a fantastic
1155
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:47,599
track. And what's going on there really
1156
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:50,000
is that Jack Nichi, who put the
1157
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,839
performance soundtrack together, um
1158
00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:57,839
was himself uh very smitten with the
1159
00:51:57,839 --> 00:52:00,079
Stones. You know, Anichi was a pretty
1160
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,240
creepy character in his own way and
1161
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:04,160
it's, you know, he had his own sort of
1162
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,880
slightly satanic dabblings and so the
1163
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,160
stones answered to that slightly
1164
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,440
sinister side. And in a sense, man from
1165
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,440
Turner is Nichi kind of putting together
1166
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,599
his own idea of the stones around um
1167
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:21,760
around Jagger with with Ray Cuda playing
1168
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,001
the the the bottleneck guitar.
1169
00:52:26,001 --> 00:52:30,160
[music] Anton on a hot and dusty night.
1170
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,480
He will eat eggs in Samies when the
1171
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,359
black man there drew his knife. [music]
1172
00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:38,079
Oh, you drown at you in ramp as he
1173
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,800
washed his sleeveless shirt. You know
1174
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,119
that Spanish speaking gentleman, the one
1175
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:45,440
that we all call. [music]
1176
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,000
>> It was mags
1177
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,160
the one
1178
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,000
great
1179
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,640
solo moment by any of the Stones really.
1180
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,400
Uh, you know, it's the greatest Rolling
1181
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,359
Stones track, not by the Rolling Stones.
1182
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:03,359
And, uh, Rikuda's guitar is absolutely
1183
00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:05,680
incredible. Uh, as Keith Richards
1184
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,480
realized, um, because he went on to
1185
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,040
allegedly steal one or two of Rise
1186
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:11,839
licks.
1187
00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:14,400
>> Everywhere you look at it, it's from The
1188
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,119
Last Poets to Robert Johnson. This is a
1189
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:20,480
film which is absolutely on the music
1190
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,880
money. Um, how they did it, I have no
1191
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,559
idea, but they did it.
1192
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:27,760
>> I remember [music]
1193
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,920
1956.
1194
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,720
You're a [ __ ] little leather boy with
1195
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:35,680
a smaller piece of [music] stick. You're
1196
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,640
a lashing, smashing hump man. Your
1197
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:39,440
sweatshine [music]
1198
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,640
sweet and strong. Your orans working
1199
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,200
perfectly, but there's a part that's not
1200
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,839
screwed on. There were many attempts,
1201
00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:50,720
many many attempts to put um uh rock
1202
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:53,440
music and uh film together from the
1203
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,520
Presley movies on um and um there were
1204
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,359
some successes. I mean, the Beatles
1205
00:53:59,359 --> 00:54:02,079
films are are quite considerable films,
1206
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:04,400
but there's no doubt the performance is
1207
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,960
just head and shoulders above them all.
1208
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,599
Um and most of them have been dreadfully
1209
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:12,960
unsuccessful. So as a way of capturing
1210
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,920
uh rock music and its energy and its
1211
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,960
problems on film uh performance is
1212
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,160
without equal. The whole band decided to
1213
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,160
follow Jagger's example and to try to
1214
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,559
make the transition to the big screen.
1215
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:28,319
They put together a concert film that
1216
00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:30,319
would include performances from the Who
1217
00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:32,880
Marian Faithful and John Lennon. But on
1218
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,559
seeing the finished product, it was the
1219
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:36,400
Stones themselves who deemed it so
1220
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,160
disappointing that it wasn't officially
1221
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,559
released until 1996.
1222
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:43,280
>> That was again an attempt, a mistaken
1223
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,359
attempt by Mick to follow in the
1224
00:54:45,359 --> 00:54:47,280
footsteps of the Beatles who did the
1225
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,960
Magical Mystery Tour. So they thought
1226
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,160
they'd do a circus. That was my last job
1227
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,839
for the New Musical Express to cover the
1228
00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:55,839
Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus.
1229
00:54:55,839 --> 00:55:00,880
>> That you can't always get what you want.
1230
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,079
Honey, [music]
1231
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:07,920
you can't always get what you want.
1232
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:13,359
You can't always get what you want.
1233
00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:16,319
But if you try sometimes,
1234
00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:19,280
well, you might just find [music]
1235
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,760
what you need.
1236
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:24,800
Yeah, [music]
1237
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,119
>> that Rolling Stones rock and roll circus
1238
00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:28,880
thing was another one of those kind of
1239
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,440
mistakes that they made. They couldn't
1240
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,359
get it quite right at that time for some
1241
00:55:33,359 --> 00:55:36,160
reason. The idea, the lineup was
1242
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,883
fantastic. The Who stole the show.
1243
00:55:39,883 --> 00:55:41,903
[music]
1244
00:55:45,778 --> 00:55:47,798
>> [music]
1245
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,018
>> Come on.
1246
00:55:51,018 --> 00:55:52,480
[music]
1247
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,658
Don't let you lie. [screaming]
1248
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,588
Oh, you're my [music]
1249
00:56:04,118 --> 00:56:06,138
[music]
1250
00:56:13,288 --> 00:56:16,000
[music] 10 times better than than the
1251
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,760
the Stones were. Probably another reason
1252
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,079
why Mick didn't put it out. Yet inside
1253
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,240
the Stones camp, far greater problems
1254
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:24,960
were coming to a head. As the band
1255
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,640
worked in the studio on their follow-up
1256
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,799
to Beggar's Banquet, it became clear
1257
00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:31,040
that the inspiration for Turner Brian
1258
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,400
Jones was spiraling out of control.
1259
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,400
Having lost his girlfriend to Richards
1260
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,000
and having become a less prominent
1261
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,160
member of the band, the former teen
1262
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,480
pinup and party animal had become a
1263
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,880
broken man.
1264
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,200
>> Amongst them all, Brian was a clubber.
1265
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,680
He used to like uh the bubbles and he
1266
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,960
used to like people around him. See
1267
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,400
Brian very funny really. He had so many
1268
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,280
people around him. Some were good, some
1269
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,480
were bad, some were leashes, you know,
1270
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,640
but he couldn't bear to be on his own.
1271
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,440
To me, although all these people around
1272
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,240
him was a very lonely man, that's my
1273
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,960
opinion of Brian. cuz sometimes he used
1274
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,200
to talk to me
1275
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,400
uh and I could feel
1276
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,200
he was hurting. You know, Brian had
1277
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,799
problems. I mean, there was an there was
1278
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:28,160
an element of Brian's nature that was
1279
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,520
today would be deemed schizophrenic.
1280
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,640
Uh he had
1281
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,559
a problem
1282
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:40,000
with his identity, who he was, what he
1283
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,559
was, where he was going.
1284
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:48,160
And um it caused him great pain and it
1285
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,599
caused some of the people around him
1286
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:53,599
great pain as well. Brian, he could be
1287
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:56,000
lovable,
1288
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,880
very polite, very nice,
1289
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,559
but he could be also he could be a
1290
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:02,400
bastard.
1291
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,240
There weren't too many people after the
1292
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,240
first two or three years that had a good
1293
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,119
word to say about Brian, which is very
1294
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:13,839
sad because he could be quite charming.
1295
00:58:13,839 --> 00:58:16,160
He was very articulate. He was always
1296
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,720
absolutely charming to me as a as a
1297
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,359
journalist, but then he was usually
1298
00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:22,880
charming to people he thought could be
1299
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,960
useful to him.
1300
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,640
Um
1301
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,839
he was intelligent, he was well read,
1302
00:58:29,839 --> 00:58:32,240
but somewhere along the way there was a
1303
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,160
kind of there was a weakness, a flaw.
1304
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,920
And
1305
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,799
once he used started to use the drugs as
1306
00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:42,960
a prop,
1307
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,480
then
1308
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,400
that really undermined him. That really
1309
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,559
underpinned him. By that time, I knew
1310
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:51,119
anyway that there was a lot of animosity
1311
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:54,000
going on. But I unfortunately Brian, he
1312
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,480
got in such a state, he just couldn't
1313
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,480
get it together. He couldn't hack it. He
1314
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,880
just could not do it. He fell apart.
1315
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,400
He became a figure of of almost of um
1316
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,359
fun to the other guys in the band. Keith
1317
00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:11,040
and Mick
1318
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,640
would ridicule it because of his
1319
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,040
behavior. [music]
1320
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,839
Uh and it was sad.
1321
00:59:19,839 --> 00:59:21,599
Um, perhaps if they'd have been a little
1322
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:23,359
older and a little wiser like they are
1323
00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:24,559
now, they might have been a little
1324
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:27,599
kinder and a little more supportive, but
1325
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:30,720
Brian did
1326
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,721
rather ask for it.
1327
00:59:33,721 --> 00:59:34,960
[music]
1328
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,119
Now ostracized from his own bandmates,
1329
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:38,960
his continued involvement in the Stones
1330
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,240
made him a liability. In June 1969,
1331
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,201
Mick, Keith, and Charlie visited Brian
1332
00:59:44,201 --> 00:59:45,920
[music] at his farmhouse, and the
1333
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:50,520
founding member of the group was fired.
1334
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:56,000
Ultimately, it was very important that
1335
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,960
Brian Jones fade out of the picture. You
1336
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,280
know, that was the making of the Stones.
1337
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,480
It was the cementing of the Jagger
1338
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,040
Richards partnership that that that
1339
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,520
Brian just
1340
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,200
dropped out. He was a mess emotionally
1341
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,000
and chemically. A complete mess. A guy
1342
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,839
whose heart had been in the right place.
1343
01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:20,079
who'd been a passionate
1344
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:24,880
student of the blues, but who wasn't
1345
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:30,960
capable of um accepting the challenge
1346
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,480
of the Rolling Stones status.
1347
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,640
After 3 days, statements were issued and
1348
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,960
Brian's departure was made official.
1349
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,799
Young guitarist Mick Taylor, who had
1350
01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:42,480
replaced Peter Green in John Male's
1351
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,480
Blues Breakers two years before, was
1352
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,200
announced as Joan's replacement. Yet
1353
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,280
further drama was to unfold less than a
1354
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,680
month later when Brian Jones was found
1355
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,599
dead in the swimming pool at his country
1356
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:54,640
home.
1357
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,559
>> About midnight, Jones went for a swim
1358
01:00:56,559 --> 01:00:58,799
with his Swedish girlfriend, Anna Volan,
1359
01:00:58,799 --> 01:01:01,599
and another friend, Mr. Frank Thurugod.
1360
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:03,920
After a time, Mr. Thurugod and the girl
1361
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,079
went back to the house. When they
1362
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:08,079
returned, they saw Jones at the bottom
1363
01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:11,040
of the pool and they pulled him out.
1364
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,760
I was at Olympic Studios the night that
1365
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,119
death happened and uh Tom Keelock who
1366
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:19,119
was there minder appeared about 2:00 in
1367
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:21,359
the morning and the word went round the
1368
01:01:21,359 --> 01:01:23,359
uh studio that something had happened
1369
01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:26,799
down at the farm and that he died in the
1370
01:01:26,799 --> 01:01:30,400
swimming pool and uh at first I wasn't
1371
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:31,839
being told about it. I was in the
1372
01:01:31,839 --> 01:01:33,839
control room looking out into the studio
1373
01:01:33,839 --> 01:01:35,760
and I could see these little groups
1374
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,180
quite seriously talking together and uh
1375
01:01:38,180 --> 01:01:40,200
[clears throat]
1376
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,920
Charlie came in at one point quite
1377
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,000
tearful and Marianne was there and she
1378
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,160
was very tearful
1379
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:51,280
and uh Jagger was curious mixture of
1380
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:56,400
anger and sadness I think but the anger
1381
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,040
was dominating and I remember him saying
1382
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,400
it goes on it goes on.
1383
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,480
And this was taken to mean by some
1384
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,880
people that that the session went on,
1385
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,359
which it did kind of dribble on for
1386
01:02:09,359 --> 01:02:12,079
about an hour, but nothing really was
1387
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:13,200
probably it was going through the
1388
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:14,640
motions to give them something to do
1389
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,799
because they felt, I think, pretty awful
1390
01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:19,280
about the fact that Brian had died. I
1391
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,520
think what Jagger was saying was the
1392
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,160
Rolling Stones goes on.
1393
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,960
>> Nobody was really that surprised. do.
1394
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,880
There are people I mean I'm sure
1395
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,079
everybody's got those feelings about
1396
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:31,680
certain people. Everybody knows people
1397
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:32,720
that
1398
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,240
>> you just have that feeling about they're
1399
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,839
not going to be they're not going to be
1400
01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:38,880
70 years old ever. You know that not
1401
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,920
everybody makes it. You
1402
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,920
>> the Stones already had a free concert in
1403
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,319
Hyde Park planned 2 days after Jones's
1404
01:02:46,319 --> 01:02:48,160
death and they decided that the show
1405
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,200
must go on. Jagger read a Shelly poem
1406
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,880
and then released hundreds of white
1407
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,760
butterflies in remembrance of Brian. But
1408
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,079
it was also Mick Taylor's first live gig
1409
01:02:58,079 --> 01:02:59,839
and in many ways it marked the passing
1410
01:02:59,839 --> 01:03:01,440
of one era and [music] the beginning of
1411
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:02,799
another.
1412
01:03:02,799 --> 01:03:04,799
>> I think the the death of Brian Jones
1413
01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:06,480
really
1414
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,559
washed over the Rolling Stones. Had very
1415
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:10,960
little I mean they're they're hard men,
1416
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,880
you know. I mean, let's not forget
1417
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,480
Jagger and Richards didn't turn up to
1418
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,119
the funeral. Um Mick led off the
1419
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:19,440
butterflies in Hyde Park at the free
1420
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,039
concert uh and read Shelly for him, but
1421
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:24,400
he didn't go to the funeral. he was
1422
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,200
already off to Australia to to make Ned
1423
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:28,640
Kelly, you know, and he wasn't going to
1424
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,119
delay the shooting of his first major
1425
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:33,200
feature film to go to his old friend's
1426
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,680
funeral. So, there was a very hard
1427
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:39,440
attitude there. Um, and I think they
1428
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,319
felt in a way Brian had effectively been
1429
01:03:42,319 --> 01:03:45,760
dead to them for for for quite a long
1430
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,039
time. But, you know, let's not overlook
1431
01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:50,720
the fact that Brian did make some
1432
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,839
fantastic contributions, which Mick and
1433
01:03:53,839 --> 01:03:56,799
Keith have spent the last 40 years
1434
01:03:56,799 --> 01:03:59,760
talking down, but it is undoubtedly
1435
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,920
there. It's undoubtedly there in their
1436
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,000
first phase as an R&B band. It's very
1437
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,000
much there in their phases of pop band
1438
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,720
where he's introducing the melatron and
1439
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,480
the sitar and all of these other
1440
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,799
instruments that give it additional
1441
01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:16,640
fresh textures. So his contribution
1442
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,799
in certain key periods was critical. Um
1443
01:04:20,799 --> 01:04:24,240
but by the time he died they had already
1444
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,400
moved far far beyond Brian Jones. This
1445
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,240
movement led the Stones further down the
1446
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,640
path of American roots music and to
1447
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,079
country.
1448
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:35,679
This genre, previously so emblematic
1449
01:04:35,679 --> 01:04:36,319
[music]
1450
01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:38,559
of conservative values and the American
1451
01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:41,760
right, was by 1968 being popularized by
1452
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,440
the birds and the international
1453
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,079
submarine band. Rock [music] was moving
1454
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:48,480
in on Nashville territory with first Bob
1455
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,480
Dylan and then Neil Young recording in
1456
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,440
country music's capital city. In [music]
1457
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,160
1969, a slew of country rock albums were
1458
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,240
released, including Dylan's Nashville
1459
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,920
Skyline, which featured [music] a duet
1460
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:02,240
with Johnny Cash, and the Flying Burrito
1461
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,559
Brothers seminal debut album, The Gilded
1462
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:07,839
Palace of Sin. Once again, honing in on
1463
01:05:07,839 --> 01:05:09,599
trends from across [music] the Atlantic,
1464
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:11,599
the Stones released their unique take on
1465
01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:15,680
country in July 69, Monkey Tonk Women.
1466
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:16,960
>> There was a movement back to [music]
1467
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,559
Ruth's music of all sorts in the late
1468
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:20,160
'60s. There was a kind of sense of
1469
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,960
exhaustion with you know psychedelics
1470
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,960
and you know going you know into other
1471
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,079
realms. There was a sense of you know
1472
01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:27,440
let's put our feet on the ground and
1473
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,760
there was you know a renewed fascination
1474
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,400
with the blues and country music. Of
1475
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,480
course something like honky tonk women
1476
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,280
played right into that. What people I
1477
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,240
think heard was just all that rhythm
1478
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,640
when it came on the radio in the US. I
1479
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:46,520
mean people went nuts.
1480
01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:50,280
is a home
1481
01:05:50,799 --> 01:05:54,119
that's all
1482
01:05:55,590 --> 01:05:57,610
[music]
1483
01:06:00,175 --> 01:06:02,195
[music]
1484
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:06,480
Keith had always loved country music. Um
1485
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,119
I mean Jagger recalls
1486
01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:11,280
Keith as a little boy, you know, dressed
1487
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,160
up as a cowboy and [laughter]
1488
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,520
guns. Um but uh you know Keith always
1489
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,720
had a passion for for for country. Um
1490
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,880
Jagger always regarded as as a bit of a
1491
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,319
joke which is why a lot of the Stones
1492
01:06:26,319 --> 01:06:29,440
country tracks don't work because Keith
1493
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,920
is treating them seriously musically and
1494
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,599
then Jagger comes up with this sort of
1495
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:35,119
pastiche vocal.
1496
01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:36,880
>> This used to hurt Keith a bit. I mean,
1497
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,200
they'd be all drunk in the studio doing
1498
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,480
Far Away Eyes and and it really does
1499
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,000
sound like Mick sending up the CB radio
1500
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,280
and country music radio station culture.
1501
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,640
Um, yeah, I'm I mean, if he if he'd have
1502
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,559
done a blues
1503
01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:57,280
and affected a fake black voice, which
1504
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,359
uh you know, he would have gotten bold,
1505
01:06:59,359 --> 01:07:03,039
you know. I mean, it's a difficult one
1506
01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:04,799
because you don't know where the tribute
1507
01:07:04,799 --> 01:07:09,240
ends and the piss taking starts.
1508
01:07:13,536 --> 01:07:15,556
[music]
1509
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,480
I don't think that country people like
1510
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,920
this stuff very much at all at the
1511
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,520
beginning. And I then I but then you
1512
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,520
know you know then what happens in
1513
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,680
country music is that you know basically
1514
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,599
Nashville is the conservative wing of
1515
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:35,520
American popular music. So now what you
1516
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,000
have in you know where's the great
1517
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,000
what's the great repository of a
1518
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,799
musicians? Nashville. is, you know, all
1519
01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:45,599
these people uh walk into the studio who
1520
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:47,200
plays the same kind of stuff that the
1521
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,960
Rolling Stones would have played 30 or
1522
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,400
40 years ago and do it real well.
1523
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:51,520
They've listened to the Rolling Stones.
1524
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,319
They're all Rolling Stones fans. Uh and
1525
01:07:54,319 --> 01:07:56,000
uh and they're all Keith Richards fans,
1526
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,640
I'm sure. Hockey Tonk is a country
1527
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,880
style. That's right. But a hockey tonk
1528
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,760
is also a black blues joint. Before it
1529
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,799
was a country style. It was a it was a
1530
01:08:06,799 --> 01:08:09,200
African-American term. And so it never
1531
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,520
was fully country in terms of how it was
1532
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,880
identified. Not fully.
1533
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,960
>> Yet on the subsequent album, the Stones
1534
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:18,799
re-recorded the track in an attempt to
1535
01:08:18,799 --> 01:08:21,679
fully integrate a country style. Without
1536
01:08:21,679 --> 01:08:23,679
Brian Jones to introduce new instruments
1537
01:08:23,679 --> 01:08:26,080
and sensibilities, they enlisted studio
1538
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,480
musicians to broaden their sound. And on
1539
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:30,159
Country Honk, they enlisted fiddle
1540
01:08:30,159 --> 01:08:32,560
player Byron Berlin, who had previously
1541
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,239
worked with Gene Clark and Graham
1542
01:08:34,239 --> 01:08:37,759
Parsons. They put up the track
1543
01:08:37,759 --> 01:08:40,719
and uh I played a couple of passes
1544
01:08:40,719 --> 01:08:42,880
through it. They said, "Come on in." I
1545
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,000
thought, "Oh, they don't like it.
1546
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:45,199
They're going to just can it. They're
1547
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:47,857
just going to say, "See you get lost."
1548
01:08:47,857 --> 01:08:49,359
[laughter]
1549
01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:52,640
And Glenn John's and uh
1550
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,799
whoever. I don't remember exactly. Mick
1551
01:08:54,799 --> 01:08:57,359
maybe or whoever said, "We have a an
1552
01:08:57,359 --> 01:08:58,719
idea. We want you to go out on the
1553
01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:02,159
sidewalk and record this outside. We
1554
01:09:02,159 --> 01:09:05,199
have a better ambiencece we think.
1555
01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:06,880
Okay, nothing surprised me. I knew
1556
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,080
everybody was experimenting with all
1557
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,600
kinds of different things back in those
1558
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,880
days. So, we put everything out there.
1559
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,239
They put a little speaker out there so I
1560
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:15,440
could hear the track. Didn't have
1561
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:18,000
earphones. They just put a speaker
1562
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,480
and a microphone
1563
01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:22,799
and uh started running it down. And
1564
01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:25,759
they're all standing around and uh
1565
01:09:25,759 --> 01:09:27,759
uh cars going by. Of course, everybody
1566
01:09:27,759 --> 01:09:32,400
was Oh, before I when we walked outside,
1567
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,080
they were building, they're working on
1568
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,440
the studio. They had a cat a big
1569
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:38,239
bulldozer out there uh pushing dirt or
1570
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:41,520
something. And I forget it. Mick Jagger
1571
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,080
goes out and goes
1572
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,480
and the guy just I mean immediately just
1573
01:09:46,480 --> 01:09:48,960
shut it off and just got off. It was
1574
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,839
like what? You know, he just stopped it
1575
01:09:51,839 --> 01:09:54,719
right then and just left. I guess he
1576
01:09:54,719 --> 01:09:57,288
knew who he was.
1577
01:09:57,288 --> 01:09:59,308
>> [music]
1578
01:10:05,148 --> 01:10:07,168
[music]
1579
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:17,320
>> I'm sitting in a bar.
1580
01:10:17,593 --> 01:10:19,613
[music and singing]
1581
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,840
Just like I think any recording artist
1582
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,719
uh rather than doing their their stuff,
1583
01:10:26,719 --> 01:10:29,600
their musicians playing
1584
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,840
the same thing all the time, they
1585
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,760
welcome a new sound maybe to to
1586
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,920
compliment their music. I think any
1587
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,080
artist is like that after they record so
1588
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:39,920
many albums or so many songs. Gy
1589
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,719
Christmas. I mean, you know, [laughter]
1590
01:10:42,719 --> 01:10:45,600
you get to the point where man, it'd be
1591
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,040
nice to add a little something here. not
1592
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:49,280
to get too far away from their sound,
1593
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:53,120
but to uh compliment it, maybe.
1594
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:54,800
>> This introduction of a multitude of
1595
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,800
session players marked out the Stone's
1596
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,719
follow-up to Beggar's Banquet, Let It
1597
01:10:58,719 --> 01:11:01,120
Bleed. As well as featuring Mick
1598
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,719
Taylor's first contributions to the
1599
01:11:02,719 --> 01:11:05,040
Stone's music, it had an impressive cast
1600
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,679
of extras, including Ry Cuda, Mary
1601
01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:10,640
Clayton, Leon Russell, Al Kooper, and
1602
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,840
performance composer Jack Ner. This
1603
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,760
fuller sound was successfully integrated
1604
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,000
into the band's music by producer Jimmy
1605
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,159
Miller and Let It Bleed was to become
1606
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:22,560
another classic in the Stones cannon.
1607
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,719
>> It would be one of the the 20 albums I'd
1608
01:11:24,719 --> 01:11:26,800
take with me to the desert island. I
1609
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,640
mean, Let It Bleed is worth it for Gimme
1610
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,320
Shelter alone, isn't it? I mean, Gimme
1611
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,239
Shelter is one of the the finest things
1612
01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:36,800
ever created on vinyl. The uh the intro,
1613
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,280
the build of the intro,
1614
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,320
uh it's one of my favorite guitar solos.
1615
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,120
It's such a concise guitar solo.
1616
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:46,640
>> There are certainly some very strong
1617
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,159
tracks on it. I mean, you know, with
1618
01:11:48,159 --> 01:11:50,400
giving Shelter the obvious example, I
1619
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,080
mean, with that sort of wraith like
1620
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,400
flutters of harmonica, and I think it
1621
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,480
stands up well as a song. You know, the
1622
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:58,000
fact it's borne out by the fact that
1623
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,960
later on they somebody actually recorded
1624
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,760
an album consisting entirely of
1625
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:08,520
different versions of Gimme Shelter.
1626
01:12:16,804 --> 01:12:18,824
>> [music]
1627
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:25,360
>> By any reckoning, I [music] think Gimme
1628
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,719
Shelzer has to be, you know, deemed one
1629
01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:31,440
of the five greatest Stones tracks.
1630
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:33,360
>> That transition from the 60s into the
1631
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,000
70s was the Stones moment. sort of the
1632
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,080
death of the dream was the Stones
1633
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,520
moment. Not we love you, not uh all we
1634
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,360
need is love, not all of that kind of
1635
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,280
stuff, but when everybody started to get
1636
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,600
the whiff of the fact, you know what,
1637
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,760
the revolution's never going to happen.
1638
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,280
You know, we're not going to get back to
1639
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,440
the garden. You know, it's give me
1640
01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:55,440
shelter. You know, that's what's going
1641
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:58,000
to happen. the feel, the mood of the of
1642
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,120
the piece is so kind of eerie and and
1643
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:05,440
and sort of apocalyptic and you really
1644
01:13:05,440 --> 01:13:08,320
feel like, you know, the 60s are are
1645
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,960
coming to their sort of bloody finale
1646
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,000
somehow in in in this track. And I also
1647
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,480
think it was a stroke of genius
1648
01:13:16,480 --> 01:13:18,800
um that Jimmy Miller brought in Mary
1649
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,640
Clayton to whale away because it just
1650
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,280
takes it into a different dimension. A
1651
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,280
sort of desperation
1652
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,640
to this track, a real sense of foroding
1653
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,960
and and unease which um is is
1654
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,520
extraordinary. It's so haunting.
1655
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,600
>> All they basically wanted was me on the
1656
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,760
record. You know, they knew what I would
1657
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:42,960
I think they kind of knew what I would
1658
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,920
bring to it. I would bring Mary Clayton
1659
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,679
to it, you know, just bring myself to
1660
01:13:47,679 --> 01:13:49,760
it. It wasn't anything made up where you
1661
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,280
sing this part and I'll sing that part
1662
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,040
and he'll sing that. It was any any of
1663
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:54,480
that. I just brought my heart and soul
1664
01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:58,560
to it. Half sleep pregnant and rollers
1665
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,719
in my hair and all. I remember three
1666
01:14:00,719 --> 01:14:03,600
takes of it of my part of it. I started
1667
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:09,440
to uh chill shall we shall we? And we
1668
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:12,159
came right up. By that time, some kind
1669
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:13,760
of way, it was so late, my throat
1670
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,760
cracked. It was a crack in that
1671
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,679
particular song. They said, "No, don't
1672
01:14:17,679 --> 01:14:19,360
do it again. We love the crack. We love
1673
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,679
the crack. Leave it in. Leave it in. Can
1674
01:14:21,679 --> 01:14:23,840
you do it again?" I said, "Sure, I can
1675
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,496
do it again." [laughter]
1676
01:14:26,496 --> 01:14:28,516
[music]
1677
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,376
He's going to shine. [music]
1678
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,906
It's time to shine away. It's time to
1679
01:14:40,906 --> 01:14:42,960
[music] shine away.
1680
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,360
>> Give me Shelter's a complete masterpiece
1681
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,440
because I hate 60s nostalgia. The whole
1682
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:50,400
notion of how horrible things were back
1683
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,239
then,
1684
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:56,640
is sort of annoying to me. But in so far
1685
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,280
as there was a sense of a crackdown and
1686
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,400
there were bad things going on, that
1687
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,120
song captures it
1688
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,199
as well as anything I can think of.
1689
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:09,040
>> The civil rights movement was going on
1690
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,040
still going on. Black people were
1691
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,040
fighting for rights. Dr. King, I think
1692
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,440
Dr. King had just been assassinated.
1693
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:17,360
black people as a whole at that
1694
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,440
particular time were we were just
1695
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:21,360
distraught, you know, because our leader
1696
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,199
was dead, you know, and I took all of
1697
01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:24,880
that stuff, all that stuff must have
1698
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,199
been built up inside of me. So when I
1699
01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:31,920
took on a song like that to saying,
1700
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,040
"Give me shelter. Please give me shelter
1701
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,080
from the racism, from the war, from all
1702
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:39,920
the craziness to go in the police, from
1703
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,199
everything that's going on in the world
1704
01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:44,800
today. Can you please give us all? We
1705
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,719
really need shelter. And I was really
1706
01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:49,280
like pleading to God, you know, please
1707
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,357
Lord, give us shelter. [music]
1708
01:15:56,232 --> 01:15:58,252
[music]
1709
01:16:02,127 --> 01:16:04,147
>> [music]
1710
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:08,960
>> There was
1711
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,800
stuff brewing that the song wasn't about
1712
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,159
because people didn't really know it was
1713
01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:17,840
brewing. Nixon was president by then.
1714
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,159
uh what was really going on in the
1715
01:16:20,159 --> 01:16:22,800
historical long-term historical context
1716
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,520
was that conservative
1717
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,159
ideology was reasserting itself and was
1718
01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:33,679
going to take over capital. Um and uh
1719
01:16:33,679 --> 01:16:35,520
and we all need shelter from that. The
1720
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,920
reason the song uh I maybe the reason
1721
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,760
the song seems so profound now is that
1722
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,040
even if it wasn't as true as it might
1723
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,120
have been in 1969, it's continued to
1724
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,960
have relevance.
1725
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,679
Uh and we now
1726
01:16:47,679 --> 01:16:49,840
right now live in a world in which uh
1727
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,360
needing shelter is an all too vivid part
1728
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,880
of our lives, not to mention the lives
1729
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:00,800
of the people we're destroying.
1730
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:06,080
I think that track and the album
1731
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,400
showed that Jumping Jack Flash and
1732
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,600
Beggar's Banquet weren't a one-off. It
1733
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,159
showed that the Stones had staying power
1734
01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:17,520
and uh they could sustain it and and in
1735
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:18,800
fact they were getting better and
1736
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:19,679
better.
1737
01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:22,560
>> In November 1969, the Stones embarked on
1738
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,400
their first North American tours since
1739
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,520
July 1966 and these concerts were an
1740
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,440
entirely new live experience for both
1741
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:32,000
the band and the audience. Previously,
1742
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,080
the Stones had played in small venues to
1743
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,400
screaming teenage girls, but they were
1744
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,560
now a rock band and their audience had
1745
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,080
matured.
1746
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,239
Beginning at Colorado State University,
1747
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:44,719
the Stones packed out large arenas,
1748
01:17:44,719 --> 01:17:46,800
including two nights at New York City's
1749
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,440
Madison Square Gardens. I remember going
1750
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:51,600
to see the Rolling Stones in 1969 in New
1751
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:56,400
York. And uh it was ecstatic. I mean,
1752
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:57,840
there was a moment, I mean, the opening
1753
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,280
acts, as I recall, were BB King, Iina
1754
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:05,920
Turner, and Terry Reed. And you know,
1755
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,760
that was all great. And then suddenly
1756
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,120
like the lights are out in this theater
1757
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,920
and they're just, you know, there was no
1758
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:13,920
big screens, no big stage show. I mean,
1759
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,199
there was none of this kind of
1760
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:18,000
production stuff. It was in an arena,
1761
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,760
but you know, all the lights were out in
1762
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,120
the place and all you could see were the
1763
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:22,719
red lights on those amps. And I remember
1764
01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:25,040
sitting there thinking like the Rolling
1765
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,239
Stones are going to be on that stage.
1766
01:18:26,239 --> 01:18:30,400
Like I could not believe it. It was so
1767
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,760
exciting. And they were great. I mean,
1768
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,640
they became a great band at that point.
1769
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:37,120
I mean with
1770
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,360
>> M Taylor
1771
01:18:42,604 --> 01:18:44,624
[music]
1772
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,600
when I'm a
1773
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:49,920
man [music]
1774
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,239
on a radio
1775
01:18:56,159 --> 01:18:58,324
step
1776
01:18:58,324 --> 01:19:00,344
[music]
1777
01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:11,440
They closed every night with Street
1778
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:13,440
Fighting Man and there was just this
1779
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:15,760
kind of sense of, you know, people were
1780
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:17,920
on their seats and pumping fists. And as
1781
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,480
ironic as that song is, man, everybody
1782
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:23,040
was feeling it. Like, you know, it was
1783
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,760
one of those moments when,
1784
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,719
you know, things were really shaken here
1785
01:19:28,719 --> 01:19:29,840
and it really seemed like things were
1786
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,679
going to tip. like, you know, that that
1787
01:19:31,679 --> 01:19:34,880
desire to just like
1788
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,800
smash something, just kind of run out
1789
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,440
and, you know, like let's just take [ __ ]
1790
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:42,080
over. It was it was on, man. It was on
1791
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,400
in a big way. And the Stones were uh
1792
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,960
were right at the heart of it.
1793
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,640
Yet, right at the heart of it would
1794
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,070
become an uncomfortable place for
1795
01:19:50,070 --> 01:19:52,400
[music] the Stones to be situated.
1796
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,159
After closing their tour, they were to
1797
01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:56,080
play one last show at the free concert
1798
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:57,920
being held at the disused Altoont
1799
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,640
Speedway in Northern California. On a
1800
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,640
bill that included the Grateful Dead,
1801
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,400
Santana, [music] the Flying Burrito
1802
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,400
brothers and Jefferson Airplane, the
1803
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,400
Stones were hoping for an explosive end
1804
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,400
to their tour. The concert film being
1805
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,080
shot by the Mas [music] brothers of this
1806
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,800
tour and to the decade itself.
1807
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,719
The Stone's decision to use the Hell's
1808
01:20:16,719 --> 01:20:18,890
Angels as security for the concert was
1809
01:20:18,890 --> 01:20:20,880
[music] disastrous, however, and by the
1810
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,480
time that Jefferson Airplane hit the
1811
01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:24,719
stage, the situation [music] was turning
1812
01:20:24,719 --> 01:20:28,239
ugly. There was very little doubt that
1813
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:33,360
flower power had wilted by 69.
1814
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,920
Um the leave the wear some flowers in
1815
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,080
your hair when you go to San Francisco
1816
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,640
and Donovan had be already begun to
1817
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,360
fade. The Maharishi was becoming a bit
1818
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:47,679
of a memory and I think they'd realized
1819
01:20:47,679 --> 01:20:49,280
that
1820
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:52,880
things like free love weren't free and
1821
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,880
it wasn't love.
1822
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,920
and that flower power might have been a
1823
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,440
good idea and peace and love might have
1824
01:20:59,440 --> 01:21:02,320
been a better one, but you had to have
1825
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,320
some kind of infrastructure to put it in
1826
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,880
place. And it went badly wrong at
1827
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,360
Alimmon when the Grateful Dead
1828
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,920
recommended to Jagger that he hire the
1829
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,400
Hell's Angels. I think he made the
1830
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:15,760
mistake of thinking he'd still got the
1831
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,280
Hell's Angels that were in England when
1832
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,080
they did hide part.
1833
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,040
It was a remarkably stupid
1834
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:27,666
decision to have used them. I think
1835
01:21:27,666 --> 01:21:29,686
[music]
1836
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,480
the Hell's Angels were killers in
1837
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:34,880
America. [music] They were killers. The
1838
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,719
LA chapter of the Hell's Angels were
1839
01:21:36,719 --> 01:21:39,199
renowned for murders. [music]
1840
01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:41,280
It was not the bunch that of happy
1841
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,199
bikers who turned up for the Hide Park
1842
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:46,061
concert. [music]
1843
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,920
When the stones eventually appeared, the
1844
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,800
crowd was weary, frightened, and high.
1845
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,320
The angels, on the other hand, were
1846
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,639
drunk and violent. [music] No one was
1847
01:21:56,639 --> 01:21:58,400
aware that they were involved in such an
1848
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,480
important historical event that this
1849
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:02,320
concert would be seen as one of the key
1850
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:03,760
moments in the fall of the
1851
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,159
counterculture. [music]
1852
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:08,080
The counterculture was already out of
1853
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,120
control by the time Altoon took [music]
1854
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,600
place, you know. I mean, the fact is it
1855
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,360
it had failed. The experiment had
1856
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:16,791
failed, you know, as it was doomed
1857
01:22:16,791 --> 01:22:19,120
[music] to do. I mean, there is no more
1858
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,520
pathetic sight really than MC Jagger at
1859
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,880
Altoont in the film Give Me Shelter,
1860
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,040
>> completely lost, you know, just a sort
1861
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,440
of skinny little English boy with a
1862
01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:33,199
silly cape on trying to
1863
01:22:33,199 --> 01:22:37,120
get on top of this horrendous scene. You
1864
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:38,800
know, the Hell's Angels aren't called
1865
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,040
Hell's Angels for nothing. You know,
1866
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they're nasty, brutish, pre-rock,
1867
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leather, greasy neanderals. They're vile
1868
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and uh and and they always have been.
1869
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:52,880
They were never interested in peace and
1870
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love and and so to somehow try and
1871
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,239
embrace the Hell's Angels as some sort
1872
01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:01,920
of alternative security force within
1873
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this kind of um coder to sort of
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Woodstock, if you like, was just asking
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for trouble. The night ended in chaos
1876
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and the famous murder of 18-year-old
1877
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African-Amean Meredith Hunter. It was in
1878
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:18,960
many ways the end of an era and the
1879
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:20,880
Stones retreated from these uncertain
1880
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,280
times and looked for shelter. In the
1881
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,920
1970s, the Stones outlook fundamentally
1882
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,159
changed. They would never return to the
1883
01:23:28,159 --> 01:23:30,560
ironic anger of Street Fighting Man and
1884
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,719
distance themselves from any politics or
1885
01:23:32,719 --> 01:23:34,320
idealism.
1886
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:35,840
Although their music would continue to
1887
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,320
appeal to a growing fan base, the death
1888
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,159
of the dream that had been documented
1889
01:23:40,159 --> 01:23:42,400
with Gimme Shelter led to an increased
1890
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,639
cynicism and personal isolation.
1891
01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:46,400
>> The Stones was like this sort of
1892
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,400
traveling rock and roll circus really
1893
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,199
that you know decamped to the south of
1894
01:23:51,199 --> 01:23:54,159
France. you know, it just it it became
1895
01:23:54,159 --> 01:23:57,520
more sort of cocooned and Keith, you
1896
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,360
know, obviously began to kind of hit
1897
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,000
hard drugs a lot harder
1898
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,600
and, you know, the more heroin you do,
1899
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,560
the less outward you look, the more, you
1900
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,800
know, more internalized your emotional
1901
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,719
experience becomes. disillusionment with
1902
01:24:12,719 --> 01:24:15,360
the counterculture has set in that
1903
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,920
there's a sort of acceptance that
1904
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:19,679
actually
1905
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sex and drugs and rock and roll are not
1906
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,159
going to change the world so we might as
1907
01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:30,320
well just boogie. Um at the same time
1908
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,120
this has made things a lot darker in
1909
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:37,199
some ways. So, uh, the stones are are
1910
01:24:37,199 --> 01:24:39,280
freer to
1911
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:44,800
explore those sort of nasty areas. And
1912
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,560
yeah, I guess all of that is a
1913
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,800
reflection of um the fact that the
1914
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,600
spirit of 67 had all gone sour in ' 69
1915
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,600
with Charles Manson, Alteront and all
1916
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,923
the rest of it.
1917
01:24:57,923 --> 01:24:59,120
>> [music]
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>> Yet this period of the Stone's career is
1919
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:02,880
unique when they lost both their
1920
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,440
direction and a founding member only to
1921
01:25:05,440 --> 01:25:06,960
reemerge [music] as the greatest rock
1922
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:11,560
band in a very uncertain world.
1923
01:25:18,229 --> 01:25:20,249
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