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(alarm ringing)
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- When I wake up in the morning,
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I am always a little surprised.
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This is my life and I am happy.
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I used to wear baggy shirts,
shirts that were concealing.
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Now I wear things that flatter
me, that go with my coloring.
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I love clothes.
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I am lonely, yet I feel wonderful
because I'm a woman now.
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Last year I was a man.
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(dramatic music)
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(traffic rumbling)
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(horn honking)
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- [Narrator] We all know what sex we are.
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It is so obvious that it can
be seen by the naked eye.
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And we know it in the
deepest part of ourselves.
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We are male or female.
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But perhaps it's not so obvious.
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Imagine, if you can, what
it is like to be a woman
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imprisoned in the body of a man.
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Or a man trapped in the body of a woman.
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(dramatic music)
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Not male, not female, not homosexual.
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(jazz music)
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Recently the world was shocked
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by the discovery of this
third sex, the transsexual.
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We will meet real transsexuals.
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We will show for the first
time how and why genetic men
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become real women and genetic
women become real men.
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We will take you behind these headlines.
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- I come from a very small town.
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There's not much to do in
small towns to begin with.
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And when you had the problem that I had,
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there's even less to do.
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And no, I never had any friends.
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Boys could be very painful
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because they would say
things that would hurt.
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And then if you were caught
hanging around girls,
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that would say you were
either a homosexual,
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'cause they knew that I
wasn't a playboy by no means.
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And yes, my life existed me living
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in an attic bedroom for many, many years.
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But I always believe that
tomorrow the sun would rise
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and it might bring some
kind of clue as to why
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I was the way I was, why
my development of breasts,
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why I had such a soft voice.
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There was so much feminine things in me
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that it was this, you know,
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at that point to me was disgusting
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because it prevented me from getting job.
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- [Narrator] Our guide
through this strange new world
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is Dr. Leo Wollman, MD,
PhD, doctor, surgeon,
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psychologist, minister, medical writer,
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a man uniquely qualified
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to help us understand this phenomenon,
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one of the pioneers who
has devoted his career
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to exploring the frontiers
of sexual identity.
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- Modern medicine has brought
all sorts of miracles.
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Mankind has been released from
suffering and early death.
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In the 20th century, we have
seen Jonas Salk conquer polio.
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We have seen Christian
Barnard insert a beating heart
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into the chest of a dying man.
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We had seen Michael DeBakey
install mechanical devices
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fabricated from plastics and transistors
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placed directly into the bodies
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of the hopelessly ill diseased organs.
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And now I'm prepared to deal
with the most exciting portion
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of the medical world
today, sexual identity.
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What is a male?
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What is a female?
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Why are some people born with the mental
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and emotional characteristics of one sex
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and the outward physical characteristics
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of the other sex?
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What, who, and why are transsexuals?
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In only the past few
years we have been able
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to take a human being who has had
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this monstrous biological
joke played on him or her,
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who was born with the genitals if one sex,
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but who possesses the
heart, mind, and soul
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of the opposite sex and reverse it.
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Before this, anatomy was destiny.
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We have made genetic men into real women.
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We have made genetic women into real men.
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We have taken a voyage into a world
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which is more mysterious
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and more profoundly
disturbing than outer space.
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A journey into inner space.
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You have just met Ann Zordi.
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Ann Zordi is a male transsexual,
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and there must be at
least 100,000 Ann Zordis
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in these United States.
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Now, let me tell you what
a male transsexual is.
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A male transsexual is an individual
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who is born a genetic male
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with male sexual organs,
penis, and testicles.
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However, he has an obsessional desire
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to get rid of his unwanted male organs
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and become an anatomic female
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to match his psychological sex.
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In other words, the male transsexual
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feels that he is emotionally a female
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and is physically trapped in a male body.
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His one and all consuming
thought and desire
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is to get rid of his
hated penis and testicles
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and somehow achieve womanhood
by getting a vagina,
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thus becoming and living
completely as a woman.
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This actually can be done by an operation,
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which we call a sex change operation.
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This sex change operation
consists of the removal
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of the penis and testicles
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and the creation of a vagina and breasts.
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The vagina is formed by
the skin of the penis,
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which has been cut and unrolled.
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The breasts may be developed by injections
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of liquid silicone or
inserts of plastic gel,
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which is like silicone in a plastic bag.
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There are approximately 2,000 people
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who have already had a
sex change operation.
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Let us go back to our Ann Zordi,
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who typifies the male transsexual.
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Ann, as you have noticed,
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in spite of her female
breasts, still has a penis.
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Ann is trying to save enough
money for a final operation,
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which is the removal of her penis.
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And then she will become a complete woman.
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Let me show you how important
it is for the male transsexual
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to have his penis and testicles removed.
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This patient was happily married
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with a wife and two children,
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was a carpenter by trade,
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and served a time in
the United States Navy.
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Since he couldn't afford
the price of the operation,
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he decided to try to do
the operation himself.
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As a result of this action,
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he was taken to the emergency
room in the hospital,
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and the rest of his penis
was removed surgically.
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This was what he wanted
in the first place.
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What you have seen is a true incident
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and actually happened
to one of my patients.
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It's too bad that
self-mutilation of this kind
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is so frequently resorted
to in desperation.
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- I remember when I was 11 years old,
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my family going away to the beach.
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They were going to go for a couple of days
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and I couldn't go because I
couldn't get in the water.
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And I remember when they drove by,
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I just got in front of the mirror
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and I slammed the mirror so heavy,
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the medicine cabinet, the mirror shatter.
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And I just started hitting on my breasts
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because here I was 11 years of age,
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I don't know what's happening.
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And I hit myself.
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And at that time, my
breasts were very, very,
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they were sensitive to pain.
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And which later on, I found
out that when a young girl
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is developing her breast, at that stage
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she's very susceptible to pain.
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And I hit myself so hard,
just kept pounding on it,
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that I fell against the floor.
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And it's been that long that I had this,
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that I was tormented with this problem,
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until finally the doctors
removed the disease
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and left me with my life at last.
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- Several transsexuals of both genders
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are assembled here to discuss
their mutual problems,
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both pre and post-operative.
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Some have come from cities
hundreds of miles away
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because they are unable to
achieve their objectives
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at medical centers in their home cities.
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The reason for this is
the lack of facilities
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for training physicians in this
particular area of medicine.
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This is Steve, a male transsexual
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who has not had the operation
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and is working as an automobile mechanic
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in order to accumulate sufficient money
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for the sex change operation.
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This is a female who
wishes to become a male,
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and is dressed as a male in
order to maintain her job
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as the manager of a supermarket.
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We have here a 55 year old diabetic
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who also has other illnesses,
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and yet firmly believes
that age makes no difference
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as far as a sex change is concerned.
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I see you've become a blonde.
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You look very pretty.
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But you weren't at our
last group session, Debbie.
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Is everything all right?
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- [Debbie] No, nothing is all right.
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I'm so depressed, so miserable.
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- We all feel that way sometimes.
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Perhaps if you talked about
it, we might be able to help.
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- [Debbie] There's no
sense in talking about it.
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Nothing can help.
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- Come now, you know our rules.
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Don't be a defeatist.
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Don't be depressed.
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Let's see if we can solve the problem
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by discussing it, shall we?
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- [Debbie] I told you about Jim.
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I met him at a party
about three months ago.
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We've been dating pretty regularly
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and well, I love him very much.
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Jim says he never knew
he could care for anyone
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as much as he loves me.
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- Does he know about you?
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- [Debbie] Oh no, I'm afraid to tell him.
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He'll leave me.
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I can't take that chance.
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- You have the body of a woman.
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You feel like a woman, don't you?
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- I always felt like a woman,
even when I had a penis.
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- Don't be a fool.
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Don't tell him.
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He'll never know the difference.
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- There's always the chance
that someone will tell him
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and he'll leave you
because you weren't honest.
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- Dilemma, but you
know, Rosalind is right.
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If Jim cares for you as
much as you say he does,
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he wouldn't leave you.
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If he finds out from someone else,
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he'll feel that he cannot trust you,
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that you had not been honest with him.
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Then he no doubt would leave you.
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Then too, if you keep your secret,
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you'll always be worried.
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If he frowns at you or
is angry and irritated,
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you'll think he knows.
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You'll be constantly on edge,
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and this can only lead to unhappiness.
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Please come to our next group session.
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No matter what you decide to do,
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we all want to know about it.
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- I suppose you could say I'm very lucky.
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My employer knows I'm a transsexual,
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and it really doesn't matter to him
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as long as I do my job properly.
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- Generally however, I'm sorry to say,
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employers will not hire transsexuals.
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Now just the other day,
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one of my patients came to the office.
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She was very much upset and despondent.
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It seems that her employer
had somehow found out
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that she was a transsexual, and fired her,
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in spite of the fact that she
was an excellent secretary,
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was in his employ for two years,
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and he was extremely
pleased with her work.
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So you see you are
indeed fortunate, Roslyn.
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Your employer is obviously
an understanding person.
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- Well my sister, she knows about me.
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She keeps on insisting
that I see a psychiatrist.
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But I told her I don't
need a psychiatrist.
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I'm a woman, and all I
need is a woman's body.
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- And now I would like you to meet Angela.
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Angela.
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(slow dramatic music)
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Angela, pretty and extremely intelligent,
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is a male transsexual.
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Angela presents the breasts of a female
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solely due to female hormones.
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The hormone injections are very vital
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to the individual's development.
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And we customarily give the injections
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intramuscularly twice a month.
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The pelvis is male.
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The penis is uncircumcised.
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The testes are small.
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The scrotum is normal in size.
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The shoulders are quite broad.
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Waist is small and thin.
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However, the buttocks are male-like.
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Thank you, Angela.
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Frequently in place of
natural sexual organs,
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dildos are used to achieve
sexual gratification.
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A hollow plastic replica of the phallus
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is a more realistic vaginal dilator.
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Because of the visual
association with a penis,
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an erogenous sensation is
experienced while dilating.
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This slender white
vibrator is frequently used
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to tone up the skin's circulation.
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It can also be nicely used
to dilate the healing vagina.
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This gun has compartment
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in which warm, soapy fluid is stored.
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This gun is used by the
imaginative male transsexual
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who has had the operation
and wants to receive
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the full impact of the hot
fluid emission into the vagina.
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The Harris obturator
is a hard white plastic
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bowling pin-shaped device which is useful
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in keeping open the healing
post-operative vagina.
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The advantage of this instrument
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is that one end is smaller
knobbed than the other end.
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And therefore there is selective choice
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for any size vaginal opening.
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As a matter of fact,
very often these dildos
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are used by the individuals
for sexual pleasure only,
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and not for any medical reason.
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This is quite common.
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- Up to this point I
have a complete normal
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little orgasm with a man.
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And that's one of the subjects
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that you hear among transsexual talks,
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and the articles that I've
read about transsexual,
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they say that they can achieve
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five, six, seven, or eight orgasms.
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That's where I've drawn
the complete conclusion
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that most of them are
really screwed up mentally
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to begin with.
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Because, yes, I might obtain
one in a relationship.
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And possibly, if the
relationship is good, two.
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But there's no such thing as achieving
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eight, nine, no what, six the way
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a lot of transsexual
discuss in some books,
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or stories, or television
interviews that I've seen.
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(slow music)
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- This chart of the genito-urinary organs
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in the male and human female
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best illustrates the gross anatomy
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of the male and female genitals.
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The primitive beginnings of these organs
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are influenced into human by sex organs.
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The male anatomy is shown here.
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The female anatomy here.
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This is the male anatomy of the human.
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This is the picture of
the adult female anatomy.
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The infant about to be born is influenced
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by the sex hormones taken by the mother.
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A female whose mother takes
larger doses of hormones
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to prevent a miscarriage
will sometimes be born
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with large clitoris resembling a penis.
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This is the testicle in the sac.
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This is the developing
baby in the mother's womb.
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If the glands we have
just seen and discussed
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do not develop normally,
then the individual
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may become either a homosexual, a lesbian,
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a transvestite, or transsexual.
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The homosexual is a male
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who wants the sexual love of another male.
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He does not want to have his
penis removed by surgery.
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The lesbian is a female who prefers
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to have sexual relations
with another female.
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She does not feel the
necessity for having a penis.
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The transvestite is content to dress
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in the clothing of the opposite sex,
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and while doing so very often
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will become sexually frustrated
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and will resort to masturbation
to satisfy his needs.
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The transvestite can sometimes
pass through three stages.
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Homosexuality, transvestism,
transsexualism.
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The transsexual, however,
has a desire since childhood
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to be of the opposite sex,
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as emotionally the individual
is of the opposite sex.
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If he is a male transsexual,
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he wants to have the body of a woman.
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- This thing about burning the
bra and all of this nonsense.
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And first of all, it took
me a long time to wear one.
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I'll be damned if I'm
going to burn it now.
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- If she is a female transsexual,
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she wants the body of a man, a penis,
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and demands place in society.
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- I feel like I am what I was meant to be.
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I can honestly say I'm myself.
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It's as simple as that.
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- What you are about to
see is a true sex act
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performed by a man and another man
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who emotionally thinks
and acts like a woman.
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(slow dramatic music)
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In this male transsexual's
mind, he is a woman
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having sexual intercourse with a man.
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The penis and testicles
of both are clearly shown.
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We have not dwelled on
the female transsexual.
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That is the child born a female
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who feels the emotions
and needs of a male.
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The proportion of female transsexuals
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to the male transsexual
is about one to five.
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In other words, for every
100 male transsexuals,
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there are about 20 female transsexuals,
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the female transsexual who
desires to become a male.
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As a girl child, at the
age of about five or six
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she begins to feel that she is different
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from other little girls.
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She is eager to play with the little boys
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and finds it difficult to accept the fact
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that she is expected to act like a girl.
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When she discovers that
a boy child has a penis,
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she is extremely envious
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and begins to imagine
herself with a penis too.
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Now let me introduce you
to a female transsexual
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who is planning to have
the sex change operation.
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I would like to demonstrate
the physical appearance
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of a female transsexual.
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Len.
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Len is a female transsexual
dressed in male clothing,
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primarily because Len has a male job.
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The physical appearance, as we see it now,
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is of a typical male, based on the fact
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that Len is dressed as a man.
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(slow music)
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Len's physical appearance
is truly masculine.
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You will note his hairstyle.
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The surprising effect of a female breast
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in a seemingly male individual
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demonstrates effectively the
paradox of transsexualism.
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The contour of the breasts shown here
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are typically that of a female adult.
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The nipple and areola,
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it conforms to the normal female breasts.
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00:31:50,034 --> 00:31:51,911
Here we have the pubic area.
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The escutcheon, or hair
pattern, is typically female.
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Notice the position of the hands.
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The large size legs and thighs Len has
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is caused by excessive walking on his job.
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As we note on Len's back,
the width of the shoulders
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are probably due to the
effect of physical exercise,
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such as lifting heavy objects
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in the course of his employment.
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The hairline on the neck,
as would be expected,
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is that of a male for appearance sake.
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The hair on Len's lower body,
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which is generally found on males,
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was the result of male hormones.
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The lower torso is masculine.
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00:32:38,583 --> 00:32:41,794
The upper torso is feminine.
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Besides the obvious physical truths,
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there are tragic consequences
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in the family lives of
transsexuals, as in Len's case.
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(slow dramatic music)
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- My mother, and you know
how much I love my mother,
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was very suspicious of me.
444
00:32:56,225 --> 00:32:58,227
One day she confronted me.
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And I told her the truth.
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I was a man.
447
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I was not her daughter.
448
00:33:04,984 --> 00:33:05,985
I was her son.
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00:33:06,986 --> 00:33:08,613
Well, she really carried on.
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I thought she was going
to go out of her mind.
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Said that this couldn't
happen in her family
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and not to one of her children.
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00:33:18,122 --> 00:33:19,999
She told me not tell my father.
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She said he'd probably kill me if he know.
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- What was her attitude after that?
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- [Len] She never spoke
about the incident again.
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When I told her I was
leaving the house for good,
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she just kissed me and left the room.
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- Did she ever contact you?
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00:33:35,890 --> 00:33:37,975
- I haven't seen her since I left home.
461
00:33:37,975 --> 00:33:40,728
- There are so few people who
can comprehend these things.
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And most important, it's
those people we love most
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that seem to fail to understand.
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- I have an opinion that a lot of people
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who want to undergo
this surgery are really,
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and still remain emotionally homosexual
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just by the conversations they have.
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In fact, at the doctor's office,
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the doctor thought that,
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he has a certain day set out for them
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so that the rest of the patients
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don't come in there and see,
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have to hear this kind of
talk that goes amongst them.
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And he even arranged it that I will come
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on the days when the regular
people would come in.
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And he said, "l don't think you belong
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"in that crowd to begin with."
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And this doctor does treat a lot of them.
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But I never thought of
myself in that light,
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so how can I be something
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I never believed in it in the first place?
482
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And up to this point,
I'm still to some degree,
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you could say like Anita Bryant.
484
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And she's against a lot of that.
485
00:34:37,118 --> 00:34:40,121
And I believe that individuals
should live their life
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as best they want, or can,
487
00:34:44,083 --> 00:34:47,378
even if it means accepting
things like that.
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00:34:47,378 --> 00:34:49,505
But for me personally, I would never.
489
00:34:49,505 --> 00:34:52,883
In fact, my dream in life is
one day to adopt children.
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00:34:52,883 --> 00:34:56,721
And sometimes the thought of maybe one
491
00:34:57,638 --> 00:35:01,017
being a homosexual, it would frighten me
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to the point that I would think
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I'll have second thoughts
about adopting kids.
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00:35:05,354 --> 00:35:09,609
And a lot of people who are transsexual...
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I've told people that I am a transsexual.
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And the first thing they say,
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"You mean you were once a man?"
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And that's very strange.
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It's so hard for me to get
that kind of question back
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because I've never saw
myself in that light.
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00:35:30,046 --> 00:35:32,548
In fact, that was the masquerade
at one time in my life,
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00:35:32,548 --> 00:35:35,176
when I was trying to be
a man for family reasons.
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00:35:37,261 --> 00:35:38,763
Because other than that, if not,
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00:35:38,763 --> 00:35:41,182
people would think of me as a homosexual.
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(slow music)
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- Generally at about the age of five,
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the little boy who cannot play or respond
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00:36:00,951 --> 00:36:05,081
as a boy child should
realizes he is different.
509
00:36:05,081 --> 00:36:08,834
But of course at that age, he
does not know what is wrong.
510
00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:12,421
As he grows older and his
sex problems increase,
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he becomes aware that what
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he really wants to be is a female.
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He feels that emotionally.
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He is a girl with the
desires and traits of a girl.
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As he reaches his teen years,
516
00:36:26,227 --> 00:36:28,813
he is confronted with greater problems.
517
00:36:28,813 --> 00:36:30,981
As a boy, he must sit with the boys,
518
00:36:30,981 --> 00:36:32,817
use the boys lavatory.
519
00:36:32,817 --> 00:36:37,238
He finds this devastating,
for to himself he is a girl,
520
00:36:37,238 --> 00:36:38,989
just like the girl in the front seat
521
00:36:39,949 --> 00:36:42,827
who would teases the boys, wears makeup,
522
00:36:42,827 --> 00:36:45,621
revealing dresses, and is treated gently.
523
00:36:45,621 --> 00:36:49,709
For she is one of the
so-called weaker sex.
524
00:36:49,709 --> 00:36:52,002
This is what she yearns for.
525
00:36:52,002 --> 00:36:55,131
How does she become the
girl in the front seat?
526
00:36:55,131 --> 00:36:58,592
As his teenage years draw to a close,
527
00:36:58,592 --> 00:37:02,138
the boy usually finds he can no longer act
528
00:37:02,138 --> 00:37:04,640
as the male he is supposed to be.
529
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,519
- I came from a very Puerto Rican family,
530
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:09,979
very low in education.
531
00:37:09,979 --> 00:37:14,650
And me, myself, I was in about
the seventh or eighth grade.
532
00:37:14,650 --> 00:37:16,652
No, seventh grade, 'cause I never made it
533
00:37:16,652 --> 00:37:18,028
past the seventh grade.
534
00:37:18,028 --> 00:37:20,656
I only went to two weeks.
535
00:37:20,656 --> 00:37:25,661
And well, by that time I
had a very developed breast
536
00:37:26,036 --> 00:37:28,497
that came on naturally
when I was 11 years of age.
537
00:37:28,497 --> 00:37:32,126
And a very ignorant doctor,
they were examining us.
538
00:37:32,126 --> 00:37:36,172
And this doctor was so,
he just told the nurse,
539
00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:38,174
"We don't want the girls till tomorrow."
540
00:37:38,174 --> 00:37:40,259
And from then on I just
couldn't face those, you know,
541
00:37:40,259 --> 00:37:42,178
those kids making fun of me.
542
00:37:42,178 --> 00:37:43,429
All I knew that everybody,
543
00:37:43,429 --> 00:37:46,390
I thought to myself that
everybody knew about me.
544
00:37:47,433 --> 00:37:50,519
And so that was the last I was to,
545
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:52,438
you know, to attend school.
546
00:37:52,438 --> 00:37:56,066
- Some transsexuals lived
their entire lives as men.
547
00:37:56,066 --> 00:37:59,445
They are ineffective sexually, socially,
548
00:37:59,445 --> 00:38:02,698
and are usually failures in
all of their undertakings
549
00:38:02,698 --> 00:38:05,326
because they are so very insecure.
550
00:38:05,326 --> 00:38:07,328
- To some degree I have put
a lot of doubts in people
551
00:38:07,328 --> 00:38:08,704
about the subject itself.
552
00:38:08,704 --> 00:38:09,705
Because at some of them do tend
553
00:38:09,705 --> 00:38:12,458
to have a low opinion
about transsexualism.
554
00:38:12,458 --> 00:38:15,419
And maybe the fact is because
555
00:38:15,419 --> 00:38:17,588
I can be myself because I am myself.
556
00:38:17,588 --> 00:38:18,422
I don't have to pretend.
557
00:38:18,422 --> 00:38:20,966
I don't have to fake anything.
558
00:38:20,966 --> 00:38:24,970
There was no way I would've
wanted to live before.
559
00:38:27,723 --> 00:38:31,435
- You may ask, what makes
someone a transsexual?
560
00:38:32,311 --> 00:38:36,190
What factors brought
about the strong obsession
561
00:38:37,233 --> 00:38:40,486
to change gender for a male to female.
562
00:38:40,486 --> 00:38:43,989
- A psychiatrist actually,
when I showed him
563
00:38:43,989 --> 00:38:47,243
my breast development, which
I had at the age of 11,
564
00:38:48,244 --> 00:38:53,249
this psychiatrist tells me,
"Well, I have the same thing.
565
00:38:53,999 --> 00:38:55,459
"You know, it's a very common thing."
566
00:38:55,459 --> 00:38:59,129
And here he opens his shirt
567
00:38:59,129 --> 00:39:02,383
and reveals his breast
and all that was behind.
568
00:39:02,383 --> 00:39:05,970
There was blubber because the
guy weighed over 300 pounds.
569
00:39:05,970 --> 00:39:10,975
And so I didn't even believe
when I went in there,
570
00:39:11,141 --> 00:39:12,601
because the first thing he said was,
571
00:39:12,601 --> 00:39:14,144
"By the time we get through,
572
00:39:14,144 --> 00:39:17,648
"you will be going with
broads from corner to corner."
573
00:39:17,648 --> 00:39:21,026
And I knew that that was
just like removing the soul
574
00:39:21,026 --> 00:39:22,528
from from a human being.
575
00:39:22,528 --> 00:39:23,904
What was going to be left of me?
576
00:39:23,904 --> 00:39:26,156
There were times when I consider suicide
577
00:39:26,156 --> 00:39:27,533
because the operation in itself
578
00:39:27,533 --> 00:39:29,785
was going to be so hard to accomplish,
579
00:39:29,785 --> 00:39:31,996
you know, require a lot of money.
580
00:39:31,996 --> 00:39:35,040
And I've always been the type of person
581
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,542
that I used to go up to the doctors.
582
00:39:36,542 --> 00:39:38,544
And I practically waited for
them to leave their offices
583
00:39:38,544 --> 00:39:40,170
and say, "Look, can you help me?
584
00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:41,380
"L don't have no money.
585
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:44,174
"L'm not well-educated enough to have a,
586
00:39:44,174 --> 00:39:46,302
"you know, financial independent.
587
00:39:46,302 --> 00:39:49,305
"And unless I find this,
this is going to be my life."
588
00:39:49,305 --> 00:39:51,307
And I remember telling
one doctor, you know,
589
00:39:51,307 --> 00:39:54,268
"Aren't you supposed to help human being,
590
00:39:54,268 --> 00:39:57,521
"or is money more important
than the person's life?"
591
00:39:57,521 --> 00:39:59,648
And that doctor just had me
thrown right out of the office.
592
00:39:59,648 --> 00:40:01,191
"How did you get here to begin with?
593
00:40:01,191 --> 00:40:02,568
"L don't even have office hours."
594
00:40:02,568 --> 00:40:05,195
- First and most important,
a doctor has to make certain
595
00:40:05,195 --> 00:40:07,907
that the patient is truly a transsexual,
596
00:40:07,907 --> 00:40:12,578
and his female desires and
emotions are not temporary.
597
00:40:12,578 --> 00:40:15,789
If this is so, the doctor
prepares the patient
598
00:40:15,789 --> 00:40:18,334
for his future life as a woman.
599
00:40:18,334 --> 00:40:19,209
(upbeat music)
600
00:40:19,209 --> 00:40:21,795
A measure of the complicated
nature of the operation
601
00:40:21,795 --> 00:40:24,840
can be gauged by the number
of surgical specialists
602
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,967
employed in the operation.
603
00:40:26,967 --> 00:40:30,095
They number four, in addition
to the normal complement
604
00:40:30,095 --> 00:40:32,598
of medical personnel
needed for an operation,
605
00:40:32,598 --> 00:40:34,600
including an anesthetist.
606
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,480
They are a general surgeon,
a gynecological surgeon,
607
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,942
a urological surgeon,
and a plastic surgeon.
608
00:40:42,942 --> 00:40:46,195
By dissection, the skin covering the penis
609
00:40:46,195 --> 00:40:49,114
is removed from the body of the penis,
610
00:40:49,114 --> 00:40:51,867
leaving one small pedicle intact.
611
00:40:52,993 --> 00:40:55,454
Incisions are then made in the two parts
612
00:40:55,454 --> 00:40:59,375
of the scrotal sac, both right and left,
613
00:40:59,375 --> 00:41:02,586
and the testes are removed and discarded.
614
00:41:03,754 --> 00:41:06,006
Due to the years of hormone treatment,
615
00:41:06,006 --> 00:41:07,716
the prostate gland has atrophied.
616
00:41:09,218 --> 00:41:11,261
If the patient has been circumcised
617
00:41:11,261 --> 00:41:13,389
or doesn't have enough skin,
618
00:41:13,389 --> 00:41:17,393
part of the scrotal skin is
used to form part of the sheath.
619
00:41:17,393 --> 00:41:19,728
Otherwise the skin of the scrotum is used
620
00:41:19,728 --> 00:41:24,149
to form the labia, or lips of
the vulva, or vaginal opening.
621
00:41:24,149 --> 00:41:28,654
Because this tissue has
a hair-bearing surface,
622
00:41:28,654 --> 00:41:31,407
it is well suited to this purpose.
623
00:41:31,407 --> 00:41:34,410
The urological surgeon
then fits the sheath
624
00:41:34,410 --> 00:41:38,288
into this hollow, taking
care not to kink the urethra,
625
00:41:38,288 --> 00:41:41,417
a condition that can
later cause strictures.
626
00:41:41,417 --> 00:41:43,627
This instrument is strapped in place
627
00:41:43,627 --> 00:41:47,047
to give the wall a chance to stay apart.
628
00:41:47,047 --> 00:41:50,050
Otherwise, the vagina becomes a closed
629
00:41:50,050 --> 00:41:51,927
rather than an open space.
630
00:41:53,137 --> 00:41:57,433
Post-operative hospitalization
is minimally eight days.
631
00:41:57,433 --> 00:41:59,810
Though it takes several
weeks to several months
632
00:41:59,810 --> 00:42:01,687
for the hundreds of sutures to heal.
633
00:42:03,022 --> 00:42:06,191
Depending on the particular
condition of the patient,
634
00:42:06,191 --> 00:42:09,278
the operation can take
as long as four hours.
635
00:42:09,278 --> 00:42:12,031
(heart beating)
636
00:42:12,031 --> 00:42:14,450
First, a circular incision is made
637
00:42:14,450 --> 00:42:16,827
around the base of the penis.
638
00:42:16,827 --> 00:42:20,706
The incision is then extended
in one continuous line
639
00:42:20,706 --> 00:42:22,458
along the middle of the penis.
640
00:42:27,463 --> 00:42:31,050
The skin is then inverted
to form a sheath,
641
00:42:31,050 --> 00:42:33,969
much as a sock is turned inside out.
642
00:42:33,969 --> 00:42:38,974
It is this inverted penile
skin which forms the vagina.
643
00:42:40,225 --> 00:42:44,480
This space between the now
removed penis and the anus
644
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,232
is hollowed out by the urological surgeon
645
00:42:47,232 --> 00:42:50,069
to accommodate the vaginal scabbard.
646
00:42:50,069 --> 00:42:53,238
The implantation of the
inverted penile skin
647
00:42:53,238 --> 00:42:56,867
requires the special
skills of all four surgeons
648
00:42:56,867 --> 00:43:01,622
to keep the new vagina adherent
to the underlying tissues.
649
00:43:01,622 --> 00:43:04,833
It takes several hundred
sutures or stitches
650
00:43:04,833 --> 00:43:07,127
to anchor this newly formed organ.
651
00:43:08,504 --> 00:43:11,757
A mold is now inserted into the vagina,
652
00:43:11,757 --> 00:43:14,760
fashioned of plastic
and flattened at the top
653
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,097
so the pressure on the floor
of the bladder is avoided.
654
00:43:19,765 --> 00:43:22,267
- My first date and lover.
655
00:43:22,267 --> 00:43:24,269
This was after the surgery.
656
00:43:25,395 --> 00:43:27,773
I met a very nice, good looking...
657
00:43:28,857 --> 00:43:30,400
I've always been very choosy
658
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,405
and this was a very
good looking German man.
659
00:43:35,656 --> 00:43:40,410
And we dated each other a couple of times.
660
00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:44,623
Then I decided to try out, you know,
661
00:43:44,623 --> 00:43:46,166
this was the first time I was to go to bed
662
00:43:46,166 --> 00:43:47,918
with the operation, with anyone.
663
00:43:49,545 --> 00:43:54,550
And so the time came and I
went to bed with a young man.
664
00:43:54,716 --> 00:43:58,303
And maybe because he was the first,
665
00:43:58,303 --> 00:44:02,933
or maybe the surgery was
still a fresh surgery,
666
00:44:03,934 --> 00:44:06,311
I bleed, I started bleeding.
667
00:44:06,311 --> 00:44:11,316
And so I didn't even have to tell him why
668
00:44:12,025 --> 00:44:13,944
because the first thing he said was,
669
00:44:13,944 --> 00:44:17,156
"God, you know, this is the
first time in my 28 years
670
00:44:17,156 --> 00:44:18,782
"that I've been with a virgin."
671
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:22,703
And then from then on I
was a little frightened
672
00:44:22,703 --> 00:44:24,329
because I like the guy as a person,
673
00:44:24,329 --> 00:44:28,041
but I didn't want him for
something to just have around
674
00:44:28,041 --> 00:44:30,961
all the time, just while it
lasted for a little while.
675
00:44:34,590 --> 00:44:37,342
Then his idea of a girl
bleeding, he was very German.
676
00:44:37,342 --> 00:44:39,469
That means that that's the
kind he would want to marry,
677
00:44:39,469 --> 00:44:41,305
because she hasn't been
around with no other men.
678
00:44:41,305 --> 00:44:46,059
And so it was kind of
cute that he left thinking
679
00:44:46,059 --> 00:44:48,437
and he kept calling me and he really said,
680
00:44:48,437 --> 00:44:49,730
"Look, I really want to get serious
681
00:44:49,730 --> 00:44:51,481
"because I really think
you are a nice girl.
682
00:44:51,481 --> 00:44:52,858
"L already know."
683
00:44:52,858 --> 00:44:54,193
And then I saw him on an on and off
684
00:44:54,193 --> 00:44:55,861
and up to this point he never knows.
685
00:44:55,861 --> 00:44:58,113
As far as he knows,
he's just walking around
686
00:44:58,113 --> 00:45:00,991
with a happy smile knowing
that he once did have a virgin.
687
00:45:01,992 --> 00:45:03,994
- After the operation, there is a period
688
00:45:03,994 --> 00:45:06,455
of a few months of convalescence.
689
00:45:06,455 --> 00:45:11,460
This is a must so that the
new vagina can heal properly.
690
00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:14,755
Let me tell you about an incident
691
00:45:14,755 --> 00:45:18,342
that occurred to a young male transsexual
692
00:45:18,342 --> 00:45:21,637
who went to Casablanca for
the sex change operation.
693
00:45:22,638 --> 00:45:27,517
Ronald, who is now Rhoda,
stayed in Casablanca
694
00:45:27,517 --> 00:45:31,521
for about six weeks so that
she could be near the doctor
695
00:45:31,521 --> 00:45:34,399
who operated, in case of any trouble.
696
00:45:34,399 --> 00:45:37,236
However, Rhoda was extremely impatient
697
00:45:37,236 --> 00:45:39,488
to try out her new vagina.
698
00:45:40,405 --> 00:45:42,866
So on her way to the airport
699
00:45:42,866 --> 00:45:45,285
to board a plane for the United States,
700
00:45:45,285 --> 00:45:47,162
Rhoda asked her taxi driver
701
00:45:47,162 --> 00:45:49,873
to take her to a small
hotel near the airport.
702
00:45:50,749 --> 00:45:53,919
When the driver carried
her valise to the room,
703
00:45:53,919 --> 00:45:55,545
Rhoda seduced him.
704
00:45:55,545 --> 00:45:57,923
(slow music)
705
00:46:59,985 --> 00:47:03,196
(slow dramatic music)
706
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,141
(slow music)
707
00:48:55,851 --> 00:48:56,726
- Thanks, lady.
708
00:48:59,104 --> 00:49:01,857
(dramatic music)
709
00:49:03,733 --> 00:49:04,818
- [Rhoda] Oh!
710
00:49:10,615 --> 00:49:13,493
(dramatic music)
711
00:49:19,749 --> 00:49:23,128
- As a result of her sex impatience,
712
00:49:23,128 --> 00:49:27,507
When Rhoda called the hospital
she was told to return.
713
00:49:27,507 --> 00:49:29,759
She did, and spent the next two weeks
714
00:49:29,759 --> 00:49:31,845
recovering from another operation
715
00:49:31,845 --> 00:49:35,390
to repair the damage that had
been done to her new vagina.
716
00:49:36,850 --> 00:49:41,855
Of course, this is just
an isolated instance.
717
00:49:42,105 --> 00:49:44,399
Most patients are more careful.
718
00:49:44,399 --> 00:49:46,026
- Oh, the operation in itself
719
00:49:46,026 --> 00:49:48,153
was one of the most painful procedures
720
00:49:49,529 --> 00:49:51,406
I will ever have to undergo.
721
00:49:52,365 --> 00:49:55,660
And well, at that time it
was a very painful procedure
722
00:49:55,660 --> 00:49:58,538
to the point that I wish I would have die
723
00:49:58,538 --> 00:50:00,540
than to go through the pain that I was in.
724
00:50:00,540 --> 00:50:03,752
But today, now that I see all the success
725
00:50:03,752 --> 00:50:07,672
and possibly a good
future to look forward to,
726
00:50:07,672 --> 00:50:10,425
I'd undergo the operation again and again.
727
00:50:10,425 --> 00:50:12,302
- Debbie, will you come in, please?
728
00:50:12,302 --> 00:50:14,804
(slow music)
729
00:50:18,892 --> 00:50:20,060
This is Debbie Harten.
730
00:50:20,060 --> 00:50:20,936
How are you?
731
00:50:20,936 --> 00:50:21,770
- Fine, thank you.
732
00:50:22,896 --> 00:50:23,813
- How old are you Debbie?
733
00:50:23,813 --> 00:50:25,941
- [Debbie] I'm 38 years old, doctor.
734
00:50:25,941 --> 00:50:28,568
- Tell me about your childhood.
735
00:50:28,568 --> 00:50:31,196
- Well, it was a lonely childhood.
736
00:50:31,196 --> 00:50:33,573
I refused to play with the boys.
737
00:50:33,573 --> 00:50:35,075
I wanted to be with the girls.
738
00:50:35,909 --> 00:50:38,078
When I was about six years old,
739
00:50:38,078 --> 00:50:41,414
I knew I was different
from other little boys.
740
00:50:41,414 --> 00:50:43,041
And when I was eight years old,
741
00:50:43,041 --> 00:50:46,169
I started to dress as a girl.
742
00:50:46,169 --> 00:50:48,296
- What about your family?
743
00:50:48,296 --> 00:50:50,549
Did they know about your problem?
744
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:55,095
- Well, my parents knew
that something was wrong,
745
00:50:55,095 --> 00:50:57,806
but did not know what it was.
746
00:50:57,806 --> 00:51:00,559
When they found out I was a transsexual,
747
00:51:01,434 --> 00:51:04,688
they was shocked and simply
could not believe it.
748
00:51:05,605 --> 00:51:07,357
- Did they accept you or reject you?
749
00:51:09,067 --> 00:51:13,196
- Both my parents, after
the initial shock wore off,
750
00:51:13,196 --> 00:51:15,865
were understanding and sympathetic.
751
00:51:16,992 --> 00:51:21,496
As a matter of fact, I lived
with them at this time.
752
00:51:21,496 --> 00:51:23,957
However, my brother and sister
753
00:51:23,957 --> 00:51:27,877
did not speak to me for a number of years.
754
00:51:27,877 --> 00:51:30,005
But for the past year or so,
755
00:51:30,005 --> 00:51:33,508
they seem to be anxious
to be friends again.
756
00:51:33,508 --> 00:51:35,010
- As you grew older, did you ever think
757
00:51:35,010 --> 00:51:36,386
you might be a homosexual?
758
00:51:36,386 --> 00:51:37,470
- Yes, I did.
759
00:51:37,470 --> 00:51:41,641
And when I grew older, I
engaged in homosexual practices,
760
00:51:41,641 --> 00:51:43,393
but I found I didn't like it
761
00:51:43,393 --> 00:51:46,271
because my partner regarded me as a male.
762
00:51:46,271 --> 00:51:47,897
Would you like to be a picture of me
763
00:51:47,897 --> 00:51:49,399
when I was in the Navy, doctor?
764
00:51:52,152 --> 00:51:55,238
- By the way I watched you
on "The David Susskind Show."
765
00:51:55,238 --> 00:51:57,991
What you had to say was
extremely interesting.
766
00:52:01,661 --> 00:52:05,290
Debbie, why don't you tell me
about your life in the Navy,
767
00:52:05,290 --> 00:52:08,251
and also tell me what
effect it had upon you.
768
00:52:09,419 --> 00:52:11,921
- I thought that being in the
Navy would get me to Denmark,
769
00:52:11,921 --> 00:52:16,009
where I could have a sex change operation.
770
00:52:16,009 --> 00:52:18,178
But I didn't leave the United States,
771
00:52:18,178 --> 00:52:22,140
and I had to live on the
base with the other men.
772
00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:25,644
This was very distasteful to me.
773
00:52:25,644 --> 00:52:29,314
The only way I could get off
the base was to get married.
774
00:52:29,314 --> 00:52:33,443
I asked a girl I knew in
my hometown to marry me.
775
00:52:33,443 --> 00:52:34,402
She agreed.
776
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,073
We lived off the base
while I was in service.
777
00:52:39,074 --> 00:52:41,076
And we had a child, a daughter.
778
00:52:42,452 --> 00:52:44,204
- Tell me about your wife.
779
00:52:44,204 --> 00:52:48,708
- My wife knew my problem
before our daughter was born.
780
00:52:48,708 --> 00:52:51,544
She accepted the fact that I felt
781
00:52:51,544 --> 00:52:54,589
a terrific need to dress as a woman.
782
00:52:55,465 --> 00:53:00,470
After I was discharged from
the Navy, I tried to get work.
783
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:02,472
I went from one job to another.
784
00:53:02,472 --> 00:53:04,974
I couldn't adjust to any male job.
785
00:53:04,974 --> 00:53:07,102
I felt I couldn't go on living.
786
00:53:07,102 --> 00:53:09,354
Suicide was the only way out.
787
00:53:09,354 --> 00:53:11,981
As you know, that's how I came to see you.
788
00:53:11,981 --> 00:53:14,234
- Debbie came to my
office every two weeks.
789
00:53:15,235 --> 00:53:17,362
I gave her injections of female hormones
790
00:53:17,362 --> 00:53:18,863
and oral medication.
791
00:53:18,863 --> 00:53:21,866
This produced the appearance
of increased breast tissue.
792
00:53:21,866 --> 00:53:24,369
How did you feel when
you looked in the mirror
793
00:53:24,369 --> 00:53:28,248
and saw that your breasts were
beginning to look feminine?
794
00:53:28,248 --> 00:53:30,250
- It made me more anxious to get
795
00:53:30,250 --> 00:53:33,503
the sex change operation
and to get rid of my penis.
796
00:53:34,754 --> 00:53:38,216
And now I'm trying to arrange
a uterus and ovary transplant
797
00:53:39,759 --> 00:53:42,137
so that I can bear children.
798
00:53:42,137 --> 00:53:44,389
- But you know, this hasn't
proven too successful
799
00:53:44,389 --> 00:53:46,516
and could be extremely dangerous.
800
00:53:46,516 --> 00:53:49,102
- I am aware of this.
801
00:53:49,102 --> 00:53:51,855
- When did you have the
sex change operation?
802
00:53:51,855 --> 00:53:56,860
- I had it done about 11
months ago. (indistinct)
803
00:53:57,235 --> 00:53:59,154
- [Leo] When did you have sex with a man?
804
00:53:59,154 --> 00:54:01,865
- About six weeks after the operation.
805
00:54:01,865 --> 00:54:03,658
It was quite painful.
806
00:54:03,658 --> 00:54:08,163
But after the sexual act
was over, I felt wonderful.
807
00:54:08,163 --> 00:54:11,499
I felt that finally I was a true female.
808
00:54:11,499 --> 00:54:12,876
- How old is your daughter?
809
00:54:12,876 --> 00:54:15,295
And does she know that
her father is now a woman?
810
00:54:16,671 --> 00:54:20,425
- My daughter is 16 years old.
811
00:54:20,425 --> 00:54:24,679
She is a beautiful young
lady, a good student,
812
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:28,558
and thank God, a
compassionate human being.
813
00:54:28,558 --> 00:54:33,438
She knows about my operation
and that I am now a female.
814
00:54:33,438 --> 00:54:37,400
She is intelligent enough to understand me
815
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,779
and to love me as a child loves a parent.
816
00:54:40,779 --> 00:54:43,698
- What do you look forward
to in your future life?
817
00:54:45,909 --> 00:54:49,704
- I'd like to fall in love,
get married, and have children.
818
00:54:51,456 --> 00:54:54,209
Oh, I just want to be a woman.
819
00:54:55,293 --> 00:54:58,463
- Debbie, will you come into
the examining room, please?
820
00:54:58,463 --> 00:54:59,547
- Yes, doctor.
821
00:55:35,124 --> 00:55:37,126
Will you come in, Debbie?
822
00:55:37,126 --> 00:55:40,129
(upbeat music)
823
00:55:40,129 --> 00:55:42,257
Debbie's body is that of a female.
824
00:55:49,097 --> 00:55:50,723
The breasts, as you see,
825
00:55:50,723 --> 00:55:53,476
are quite ample and very feminine-like.
826
00:55:53,476 --> 00:55:56,896
These are not only the results
of the hormone injection,
827
00:55:56,896 --> 00:56:00,400
but inserts as well of silastic gel,
828
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,027
which gives the substance of the breast
829
00:56:03,027 --> 00:56:07,532
a very firm, hard ,and feminine look.
830
00:56:07,532 --> 00:56:09,158
Fortunately for Debbie,
831
00:56:09,158 --> 00:56:13,746
as a male she had a very flat abdomen
832
00:56:13,746 --> 00:56:15,290
and hasn't gained any weight,
833
00:56:15,290 --> 00:56:19,669
which makes her form quite feminine-like.
834
00:56:19,669 --> 00:56:24,048
The pubic triangle, the female escutcheon,
835
00:56:24,048 --> 00:56:25,884
is duplicated here.
836
00:56:25,884 --> 00:56:28,303
But most of the effect is,
837
00:56:28,303 --> 00:56:31,681
well it's the result of
shaving on this area.
838
00:56:31,681 --> 00:56:35,184
Otherwise we might've seen
the additional growth of hair
839
00:56:35,184 --> 00:56:36,811
as is found in a normal male.
840
00:56:36,811 --> 00:56:39,147
We might note that the tapering fingers
841
00:56:39,147 --> 00:56:40,899
are those of a female.
842
00:56:40,899 --> 00:56:43,776
Fortunately Debbie is
lucky in this respect.
843
00:56:43,776 --> 00:56:46,195
Because the entire picture,
844
00:56:46,195 --> 00:56:51,200
the legs, ankles, the
thighs, the flat abdomen,
845
00:56:51,451 --> 00:56:53,953
the protuberant female breast,
846
00:56:53,953 --> 00:56:57,957
the entire contours are
that of a typical female.
847
00:56:57,957 --> 00:57:01,210
And she thus represents
after the operation
848
00:57:01,210 --> 00:57:05,840
as much femininity as one
might expect in a female.
849
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:10,845
I would like to now show the
dilatation of the vagina.
850
00:57:12,931 --> 00:57:16,100
The vagina is created by the surgeon
851
00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:18,603
in the sex change operation.
852
00:57:18,603 --> 00:57:20,855
Now, as I've already told you,
853
00:57:20,855 --> 00:57:24,359
the vagina is made from
the skin of the penis.
854
00:57:24,359 --> 00:57:27,487
And in every operated
case, it is necessary
855
00:57:27,487 --> 00:57:32,450
to dilate the vagina so that
the vagina space remains open.
856
00:57:33,368 --> 00:57:35,870
In some cases, it is necessary
857
00:57:35,870 --> 00:57:40,500
to increase the depth of the
vagina by dilating frequently,
858
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:42,251
as Debbie is now doing.
859
00:57:47,507 --> 00:57:50,134
The hormone injections are very vital
860
00:57:50,134 --> 00:57:51,761
to the individual's development.
861
00:57:53,262 --> 00:57:56,015
The hormone effects on the breasts,
862
00:57:56,015 --> 00:58:00,395
on the hair of the body,
and depressing the sex drive
863
00:58:00,395 --> 00:58:03,022
are the effects that we
would normally expect.
864
00:58:04,232 --> 00:58:08,152
Another thing is for the
skin to become very smooth,
865
00:58:08,152 --> 00:58:10,530
soft, and feminine-like.
866
00:58:11,906 --> 00:58:14,117
We customarily give the injections
867
00:58:14,117 --> 00:58:16,786
in the buttocks, intramuscularly.
868
00:58:17,912 --> 00:58:20,915
These injections are given twice a month,
869
00:58:20,915 --> 00:58:23,793
approximately every two weeks.
870
00:58:23,793 --> 00:58:25,003
You can go inside now.
871
00:58:38,558 --> 00:58:41,519
I call this the slap technique.
872
00:58:41,519 --> 00:58:43,563
I inject the female hormones
873
00:58:43,563 --> 00:58:46,691
by applying pressure at
the side of the hand.
874
00:58:46,691 --> 00:58:49,318
The entrance of the needle
through the skin of the buttock
875
00:58:49,318 --> 00:58:51,779
is hardly felt because the patient
876
00:58:51,779 --> 00:58:54,574
is more aware of slap than the injection.
877
00:58:55,908 --> 00:58:57,076
Turn over.
878
00:58:57,076 --> 00:58:59,829
Vagina was created from
the skin of her penis.
879
00:59:00,913 --> 00:59:02,957
Let me show you the closeup anatomy
880
00:59:02,957 --> 00:59:06,085
of the change from to female sex.
881
00:59:09,213 --> 00:59:12,842
This is the opening of the
canal leading to the bladder,
882
00:59:12,842 --> 00:59:15,178
through which the urine passes.
883
00:59:15,178 --> 00:59:18,306
The metal probe indicates
the direction of the opening.
884
00:59:23,811 --> 00:59:26,481
This part of the vagina that I am touching
885
00:59:26,481 --> 00:59:29,692
is a bulge caused by
the base of the penis.
886
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,197
This was left for erotic sensations.
887
00:59:38,201 --> 00:59:39,827
The fourchette is still healing
888
00:59:39,827 --> 00:59:41,954
where the two lips of the vagina meet.
889
00:59:42,747 --> 00:59:46,876
Healing in this area
sometimes take several weeks.
890
00:59:46,876 --> 00:59:49,003
However, the rate of healing
891
00:59:49,003 --> 00:59:51,506
is different in different individuals.
892
00:59:52,381 --> 00:59:55,134
One disappointing feature is the absence
893
00:59:55,134 --> 00:59:57,720
of lubricating fluid, because the glands
894
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,139
that produce this fluid
cannot be transplanted.
895
01:00:02,517 --> 01:00:07,355
The vagina is best illustrated
by inserting my gloved hand
896
01:00:07,355 --> 01:00:09,273
and lubricated finger into it.
897
01:00:10,358 --> 01:00:13,027
The skin of this newly created vagina
898
01:00:13,027 --> 01:00:16,405
was formerly the skin covering the penis.
899
01:00:16,405 --> 01:00:19,117
This accounts for the
retention of the sensation
900
01:00:19,117 --> 01:00:22,411
of eroticism in the area it touches.
901
01:00:22,411 --> 01:00:25,414
In spite of this female
organ just described,
902
01:00:26,290 --> 01:00:29,127
note the male hairiness of
the thighs and perineum.
903
01:00:30,878 --> 01:00:33,673
The depth of the vagina
is adequate to accommodate
904
01:00:33,673 --> 01:00:37,260
an average size penis
during sexual intercourse.
905
01:00:38,177 --> 01:00:39,554
The direction of the vagina
906
01:00:39,554 --> 01:00:42,431
fits the direction of the erect penis.
907
01:00:42,431 --> 01:00:44,267
That's it, thank you.
908
01:00:49,438 --> 01:00:52,275
Debbie had the sex conversion operation
909
01:00:52,275 --> 01:00:54,569
approximately 11 months ago.
910
01:00:54,569 --> 01:00:55,444
(slow music)
911
01:00:55,444 --> 01:00:58,531
During the operation,
the testes were removed
912
01:00:58,531 --> 01:01:00,700
following which the penis was removed
913
01:01:00,700 --> 01:01:03,286
and the skin of the penis was used
914
01:01:03,286 --> 01:01:07,290
to create a vagina by plastic surgery.
915
01:01:07,290 --> 01:01:11,836
As a result of this
Debbie, like any woman,
916
01:01:11,836 --> 01:01:14,839
can now have sexual intercourse.
917
01:01:18,301 --> 01:01:21,095
(dramatic music)
918
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,751
One afternoon I received a phone call
919
01:02:33,751 --> 01:02:36,045
from a young man whom we will call Steve.
920
01:02:37,296 --> 01:02:39,423
Steve said that it was imperative
921
01:02:39,423 --> 01:02:41,634
that he see me immediately.
922
01:02:41,634 --> 01:02:45,137
He had heard about me, had
read some of my articles,
923
01:02:45,137 --> 01:02:48,683
and thought possibly I could help him.
924
01:02:48,683 --> 01:02:51,936
Steve sounded so desperate, so despondent,
925
01:02:51,936 --> 01:02:53,688
that I told him to come right over.
926
01:02:54,814 --> 01:02:56,565
The young man that came to my office
927
01:02:56,565 --> 01:02:59,443
within the hour was indeed frantic.
928
01:02:59,443 --> 01:03:01,195
His story was like so many others
929
01:03:01,195 --> 01:03:02,697
I had heard throughout the years.
930
01:03:02,697 --> 01:03:03,572
(dramatic music)
931
01:03:03,572 --> 01:03:06,575
He said that from the time
he was five years old,
932
01:03:06,575 --> 01:03:09,578
he knew he was different
from other little boys.
933
01:03:09,578 --> 01:03:12,206
He spent his youth unhappy and alone,
934
01:03:12,206 --> 01:03:14,959
unaware of what his true problem was.
935
01:03:15,835 --> 01:03:18,212
It was not until he was a young man
936
01:03:18,212 --> 01:03:20,464
that he learned about transsexualism
937
01:03:20,464 --> 01:03:23,342
and realized and admitted to himself
938
01:03:23,342 --> 01:03:25,678
that he was a transsexual.
939
01:03:25,678 --> 01:03:28,306
No one knew about his problems.
940
01:03:28,306 --> 01:03:31,225
He lived in misery and frustration.
941
01:03:31,225 --> 01:03:33,978
He knew he needed help,
but could not bring himself
942
01:03:33,978 --> 01:03:37,565
to confide in anyone,
not even a physician.
943
01:03:38,607 --> 01:03:42,111
Now he said he wanted my advice.
944
01:03:42,111 --> 01:03:43,946
It seemed that a number of months ago,
945
01:03:43,946 --> 01:03:47,074
Steve spent the weekend
at a friend's home.
946
01:03:47,074 --> 01:03:50,619
During the night, he heard
noises and went to investigate.
947
01:03:50,619 --> 01:03:54,123
There was Tom and his
wife, Sandy making love.
948
01:03:54,123 --> 01:03:56,959
(dramatic music)
949
01:04:08,637 --> 01:04:11,515
Steve knew that he should
not invade their privacy
950
01:04:11,515 --> 01:04:15,227
by watching, but he couldn't move.
951
01:04:15,227 --> 01:04:16,771
He felt rooted to the spot.
952
01:04:24,653 --> 01:04:26,655
Finally, he left.
953
01:04:26,655 --> 01:04:28,908
That night, when Steve fell asleep,
954
01:04:28,908 --> 01:04:31,285
he dreamed that he was
making love to Blanche,
955
01:04:31,285 --> 01:04:34,538
a girl he had met at a
concert some time ago.
956
01:04:34,538 --> 01:04:37,750
(slow dramatic music)
957
01:05:50,614 --> 01:05:51,991
The dream haunted him.
958
01:05:52,992 --> 01:05:54,994
Steve said that making love to Blanche
959
01:05:54,994 --> 01:05:56,620
had seemed so natural.
960
01:05:57,705 --> 01:06:00,249
Perhaps getting married might somehow
961
01:06:00,249 --> 01:06:02,835
help him overcome his problem.
962
01:06:02,835 --> 01:06:05,880
Blanche was intelligent,
seemed sympathetic.
963
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,382
And so Steve had been courting her.
964
01:06:08,382 --> 01:06:11,218
Their marriage was to take
place within the month.
965
01:06:11,218 --> 01:06:14,513
Steve had come to me
because he had had the need
966
01:06:14,513 --> 01:06:17,475
to talk to someone who
understood his dilemma.
967
01:06:17,475 --> 01:06:20,895
Was he doing the right
thing by marrying Blanche?
968
01:06:21,896 --> 01:06:24,023
I could not give Steve any advice
969
01:06:24,023 --> 01:06:27,985
because he hadn't communicated
enough information to me
970
01:06:27,985 --> 01:06:29,737
so that I could help him.
971
01:06:30,654 --> 01:06:34,241
I did, however, suggest
that he think very carefully
972
01:06:34,241 --> 01:06:36,243
about his forthcoming marriage,
973
01:06:36,243 --> 01:06:38,537
and that he contact me again.
974
01:06:38,537 --> 01:06:39,622
He said he would.
975
01:06:42,666 --> 01:06:45,878
A few weeks later, a
young girl came to see me.
976
01:06:45,878 --> 01:06:47,171
It was Blanche.
977
01:06:47,171 --> 01:06:48,047
(slow music)
978
01:06:48,047 --> 01:06:49,548
She had found my name and address
979
01:06:49,548 --> 01:06:52,009
on a pad near Steve's phone.
980
01:06:52,009 --> 01:06:55,387
She thought possibly I could
explain what had happened.
981
01:06:55,387 --> 01:06:58,933
Blanche said that she and Steve
were planning to be married.
982
01:06:58,933 --> 01:07:00,684
One evening in Steve's house
983
01:07:00,684 --> 01:07:03,145
they were discussing their
wedding arrangements.
984
01:07:04,021 --> 01:07:07,441
Steve seemed very quiet and depressed.
985
01:07:07,441 --> 01:07:09,401
Blanche attributed this to the fact
986
01:07:09,401 --> 01:07:12,321
that he was the usual nervous bridegroom.
987
01:07:14,573 --> 01:07:17,201
Suddenly he got up and
walked into the next room.
988
01:07:18,702 --> 01:07:20,579
Blanche thought that
she had said something
989
01:07:20,579 --> 01:07:21,705
to disturb Steve.
990
01:07:22,957 --> 01:07:24,083
She would find out.
991
01:07:27,586 --> 01:07:28,420
(Blanche screaming)
992
01:07:28,420 --> 01:07:31,215
(dramatic music)
993
01:07:43,561 --> 01:07:46,063
Blanche wanted to know if I had any idea
994
01:07:46,063 --> 01:07:47,982
why Steve had taken his life.
995
01:07:49,108 --> 01:07:50,859
I felt that under the circumstances,
996
01:07:50,859 --> 01:07:52,611
I could not tell her the truth.
997
01:07:54,196 --> 01:07:55,864
Perhaps I did not know the truth.
998
01:07:57,825 --> 01:08:00,619
Blanche left my office
bewildered and miserable.
999
01:08:01,870 --> 01:08:04,873
Less painful than
surgery, but more terrible
1000
01:08:04,873 --> 01:08:06,000
is the only alternative
1001
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,877
many transsexuals see for themselves.
1002
01:08:08,877 --> 01:08:12,131
The only way out of this living nightmare.
1003
01:08:12,131 --> 01:08:14,883
It was a chance occurrence of a dream
1004
01:08:14,883 --> 01:08:16,343
that led Steve to think
1005
01:08:16,343 --> 01:08:20,347
that he could sort out
his life by marriage,
1006
01:08:20,347 --> 01:08:24,977
a marriage that would condemn
him to an even deeper lie,
1007
01:08:24,977 --> 01:08:29,481
a deeper hell, to a point
beyond endurance, suicide.
1008
01:08:30,733 --> 01:08:32,443
(dramatic music)
1009
01:08:32,443 --> 01:08:34,737
Perhaps if Steve had come to me sooner,
1010
01:08:34,737 --> 01:08:36,113
I could have helped him.
1011
01:08:38,616 --> 01:08:43,621
Transsexuals are dentists,
attorneys, college professors,
1012
01:08:44,079 --> 01:08:49,084
engineers, chemists, writers,
theatrical producers.
1013
01:08:49,752 --> 01:08:53,505
Some have become models, movie stars.
1014
01:08:53,505 --> 01:08:57,343
And then there are others who
are truck drivers, stevedores,
1015
01:08:57,343 --> 01:09:01,639
waiters, waitresses,
electrologists, and beauticians.
1016
01:09:02,765 --> 01:09:06,602
So you can see that the
occupations and professions
1017
01:09:06,602 --> 01:09:10,105
of the transsexual population
are extremely varied.
1018
01:09:10,105 --> 01:09:12,858
- It was kind of hard to get a job.
1019
01:09:12,858 --> 01:09:14,860
Even when I used to dress as a male.
1020
01:09:14,860 --> 01:09:16,904
Or live, I didn't say live,
1021
01:09:16,904 --> 01:09:19,365
exist and pretended to be a male.
1022
01:09:19,365 --> 01:09:23,410
I saw a photo of myself
when I was 14 years of age,
1023
01:09:23,410 --> 01:09:27,790
and for some reason,
1024
01:09:27,790 --> 01:09:32,169
that person was something that...
1025
01:09:34,129 --> 01:09:35,798
I couldn't even stare
at the picture straight
1026
01:09:35,798 --> 01:09:40,803
because it involves so
much pain and misery.
1027
01:09:40,969 --> 01:09:43,764
It wasn't easy for, number one,
1028
01:09:43,764 --> 01:09:47,935
I am not well-educated in the sense that,
1029
01:09:47,935 --> 01:09:49,395
because of my problem with my breasts,
1030
01:09:49,395 --> 01:09:51,188
I didn't finish school.
1031
01:09:51,188 --> 01:09:54,274
- It becomes necessary
for many transsexuals
1032
01:09:54,274 --> 01:09:55,442
to leave this country
1033
01:09:55,442 --> 01:09:58,570
in order to have the operation performed.
1034
01:09:58,570 --> 01:10:02,950
However, during the last few
years, more and more doctors
1035
01:10:02,950 --> 01:10:05,536
are becoming interested in the problem.
1036
01:10:05,536 --> 01:10:07,955
And consequently, there
are more operations
1037
01:10:07,955 --> 01:10:11,083
being performed in the United States.
1038
01:10:11,083 --> 01:10:15,337
Hopefully this will continue
and more medical centers
1039
01:10:15,337 --> 01:10:18,340
will perform the sex conversion operation.
1040
01:10:18,340 --> 01:10:21,093
- I did not know that
there was any such thing
1041
01:10:21,093 --> 01:10:25,472
as a transsexual or a
surgery to adjust whatever,
1042
01:10:25,472 --> 01:10:29,351
the mind to the rest of
the body, and so forth.
1043
01:10:29,351 --> 01:10:33,105
And I thought that it was a very...
1044
01:10:33,105 --> 01:10:34,815
I knew that I was not a homosexual.
1045
01:10:34,815 --> 01:10:35,941
I felt that.
1046
01:10:35,941 --> 01:10:40,612
I didn't hate the idea of a
homosexual 'cause I wasn't it.
1047
01:10:40,612 --> 01:10:42,489
But at that time, that's what people
1048
01:10:42,489 --> 01:10:43,490
would have thought of me.
1049
01:10:43,490 --> 01:10:48,495
They knew that what I felt
inside, and I used to...
1050
01:10:49,872 --> 01:10:51,206
I went to several doctors to see
1051
01:10:51,206 --> 01:10:52,624
if they could give me answers.
1052
01:10:52,624 --> 01:10:55,836
They were very ignorant where
this subject was concerned.
1053
01:10:55,836 --> 01:10:57,463
One of them didn't even
bother talking to me.
1054
01:10:57,463 --> 01:10:59,006
He sent me to a stronger psychiatrist.
1055
01:10:59,006 --> 01:11:01,258
He thought I was that badly disturbed.
1056
01:11:01,258 --> 01:11:05,471
And I decided to take my life
1057
01:11:05,471 --> 01:11:07,598
because I say, I'm not a homosexual.
1058
01:11:07,598 --> 01:11:09,767
L can FIGVGF "VG 8S a man.
1059
01:11:09,767 --> 01:11:12,019
Certain things are expected of a male.
1060
01:11:12,019 --> 01:11:14,229
When you're 18, you're
supposed to start dating.
1061
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:16,106
Marriage soon after that.
1062
01:11:16,106 --> 01:11:18,233
And how could I have
done something like that?
1063
01:11:18,233 --> 01:11:22,112
It was beyond anything
I could ever have done.
1064
01:11:22,112 --> 01:11:25,407
And so I said that I
was going to end my life
1065
01:11:25,407 --> 01:11:27,159
at the age of 18.
1066
01:11:27,159 --> 01:11:32,039
And I clearly remember
getting pills and everything.
1067
01:11:32,039 --> 01:11:34,291
I was totally prepared to commit suicide.
1068
01:11:34,291 --> 01:11:37,503
And then one day, the same
day the matter of fact
1069
01:11:37,503 --> 01:11:39,421
that this incident was
ought to take place,
1070
01:11:39,421 --> 01:11:42,508
Christine Jorgensen came
over "The Mike Douglas Show."
1071
01:11:42,508 --> 01:11:45,803
And he introduced her as a man
who had undergone a surgery.
1072
01:11:45,803 --> 01:11:47,054
And then she walks on stage.
1073
01:11:47,054 --> 01:11:49,681
But still, I was still
so naive and ignorant
1074
01:11:49,681 --> 01:11:54,061
to such a thing as a sex
change that I said to myself,
1075
01:11:54,061 --> 01:11:56,563
"Oh, she must have just
had slight alterations."
1076
01:11:56,563 --> 01:11:59,775
And then when they show a
picture of Christine Jorgensen
1077
01:11:59,775 --> 01:12:02,319
in the service, you know,
she looked more like a man
1078
01:12:02,319 --> 01:12:05,656
than I could ever have been.
1079
01:12:05,656 --> 01:12:08,826
So then that was the first hint
1080
01:12:08,826 --> 01:12:10,828
that I was what I believed all along,
1081
01:12:10,828 --> 01:12:14,289
that I was not something
1082
01:12:16,834 --> 01:12:18,710
that people would think
of as a homosexual,
1083
01:12:18,710 --> 01:12:21,171
but that I was what I
felt, a woman all along.
1084
01:12:21,171 --> 01:12:22,798
In fact, one of the nicest stories
1085
01:12:22,798 --> 01:12:24,299
that I will always relate to my life
1086
01:12:24,299 --> 01:12:26,552
is the story of the ugly duckling.
1087
01:12:26,552 --> 01:12:28,220
For the simple reason that one night
1088
01:12:28,220 --> 01:12:29,304
he went to bed miserable.
1089
01:12:29,304 --> 01:12:31,598
The next day, he became a beautiful swan.
1090
01:12:31,598 --> 01:12:33,976
And that's exactly,
1091
01:12:33,976 --> 01:12:36,728
when I went to buy the
Christine Jorgensen book.
1092
01:12:36,728 --> 01:12:39,982
It was all dusty, they give
it to me for half price
1093
01:12:39,982 --> 01:12:42,359
'cause nobody was
interested in that subject.
1094
01:12:42,359 --> 01:12:46,446
And that was to be my first contact
1095
01:12:46,446 --> 01:12:48,490
with the medical profession,
1096
01:12:48,490 --> 01:12:51,118
that there was such a
thing as being what I was
1097
01:12:51,118 --> 01:12:55,247
by simply alternating,
you know, certain areas.
1098
01:12:55,247 --> 01:12:58,333
And when I started reading her biography,
1099
01:12:58,333 --> 01:12:59,751
my life actually started,
1100
01:12:59,751 --> 01:13:01,962
it was like putting pieces of puzzles
1101
01:13:03,255 --> 01:13:04,089
with the numbers on the puzzle
1102
01:13:04,089 --> 01:13:06,466
and the number on the
plate, or on the sheet
1103
01:13:06,466 --> 01:13:08,260
where the puzzle would go.
1104
01:13:08,260 --> 01:13:12,598
And from then on life was again,
1105
01:13:12,598 --> 01:13:14,766
I started living again.
1106
01:13:14,766 --> 01:13:16,268
I merely existed.
1107
01:13:16,268 --> 01:13:18,478
And then like, I knew I
had something to reach for.
1108
01:13:18,478 --> 01:13:23,150
And along the line, I never
thought of suicide after that.
1109
01:13:24,985 --> 01:13:27,779
- One are the problems
that beset the transsexual
1110
01:13:27,779 --> 01:13:29,907
is the difficulty in finding a church
1111
01:13:29,907 --> 01:13:32,993
that will condone this type of marriage.
1112
01:13:32,993 --> 01:13:35,787
However, in scattered areas
throughout our country,
1113
01:13:35,787 --> 01:13:38,916
are ministers who understand the situation
1114
01:13:38,916 --> 01:13:40,667
and are compassionate enough
1115
01:13:40,667 --> 01:13:42,419
to perform the wedding ceremony.
1116
01:13:43,420 --> 01:13:46,673
One minister with whom
I discussed marriage
1117
01:13:46,673 --> 01:13:49,927
involving a transsexual
said that he did not think
1118
01:13:49,927 --> 01:13:51,887
that the physical state of a person
1119
01:13:51,887 --> 01:13:55,390
had anything to do with
taking the marriage vows.
1120
01:13:56,266 --> 01:13:59,061
He further stated that he had united
1121
01:13:59,061 --> 01:14:02,189
many impotent men and frigid women,
1122
01:14:02,189 --> 01:14:04,399
and the transsexual marriages
1123
01:14:04,399 --> 01:14:07,277
were as binding as any other marriages.
1124
01:14:07,277 --> 01:14:08,570
Of course, this minister
1125
01:14:08,570 --> 01:14:11,657
is an unusually enlightened
and intelligent man.
1126
01:14:11,657 --> 01:14:16,203
- My family are very heavy
Pentecostal Christians.
1127
01:14:16,203 --> 01:14:19,581
And they're the type of
people that they think
1128
01:14:19,581 --> 01:14:23,460
that if you do give your
life to the Lord Christ,
1129
01:14:23,460 --> 01:14:25,712
that, you know, you'll
be safe from anything.
1130
01:14:25,712 --> 01:14:28,548
Even if you have a leg missing,
1131
01:14:28,548 --> 01:14:31,343
you place enough faith,
you'll grow a new leg.
1132
01:14:31,343 --> 01:14:33,845
And they always believe that
if I give myself to the Lord
1133
01:14:33,845 --> 01:14:34,930
that all of this would change.
1134
01:14:34,930 --> 01:14:37,224
And they had my mind confused
1135
01:14:37,224 --> 01:14:39,351
where religion was concerned.
1136
01:14:39,351 --> 01:14:40,727
It was a time when I
didn't think of religion.
1137
01:14:40,727 --> 01:14:42,479
- Transsexuals are prejudiced against
1138
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,107
more than any other minority group.
1139
01:14:46,191 --> 01:14:49,987
Family life, social life, and employment.
1140
01:14:49,987 --> 01:14:52,990
- To some degree, I guess
they've accepted the fact
1141
01:14:52,990 --> 01:14:54,866
that I am very successful as a woman.
1142
01:14:54,866 --> 01:14:59,621
Because their explanations
of why I am so successful
1143
01:14:59,621 --> 01:15:04,626
and I appear very attractive
compared to others
1144
01:15:05,585 --> 01:15:09,381
is that that's the devil's
way of getting other people
1145
01:15:09,381 --> 01:15:12,092
to commit the same mistake that I did
1146
01:15:12,092 --> 01:15:13,844
and condemn themselves to hell.
1147
01:15:13,844 --> 01:15:16,763
The attitude that my family
bred in me about, you know,
1148
01:15:16,763 --> 01:15:18,849
if you ever undergo such a procedure
1149
01:15:18,849 --> 01:15:21,101
that you're condemned to
hell for all eternity.
1150
01:15:21,101 --> 01:15:24,646
And he made it quite clear that, you know,
1151
01:15:24,646 --> 01:15:26,982
I'm still God's creation,
1152
01:15:26,982 --> 01:15:29,484
regardless of whatever
I did decide to choose.
1153
01:15:29,484 --> 01:15:31,778
And if I was going to be happier for it,
1154
01:15:31,778 --> 01:15:34,531
why would the Lord want me
miserable if I could be happy?
1155
01:15:35,657 --> 01:15:40,287
- Most of society has not yet
been educated sufficiently
1156
01:15:40,287 --> 01:15:43,165
so that they can understand and sympathize
1157
01:15:43,165 --> 01:15:45,167
with the problems of the transsexual.
1158
01:15:46,293 --> 01:15:50,797
Most unfortunately, and I
repeat, most unfortunately
1159
01:15:50,797 --> 01:15:54,801
there are some transsexuals
who, miserable and despondent
1160
01:15:54,801 --> 01:15:58,055
because they cannot have
the sex conversion operation
1161
01:15:58,055 --> 01:16:00,682
due to lack of understanding and money,
1162
01:16:00,682 --> 01:16:01,683
cannot cope with the situation
1163
01:16:01,683 --> 01:16:04,644
and resort to drastic measures.
1164
01:16:05,437 --> 01:16:08,190
We look forward to the
time when sex labels
1165
01:16:08,190 --> 01:16:12,319
will no longer exist and
there will be only people.
1166
01:16:12,319 --> 01:16:14,571
- I do tell people about myself.
1167
01:16:14,571 --> 01:16:18,700
They ask why I decided to do this.
1168
01:16:18,700 --> 01:16:23,580
And I simply tell it wasn't
a matter of a decision.
1169
01:16:23,580 --> 01:16:26,458
It was really a matter of life and death.
1170
01:16:26,458 --> 01:16:30,670
And if one is fortunate enough
1171
01:16:30,670 --> 01:16:35,592
to trade in an unhappy
existence and a miserable one
1172
01:16:35,592 --> 01:16:38,428
for a chance at a brand new life
1173
01:16:38,428 --> 01:16:41,181
and to be themselves for the
first time in their life,
1174
01:16:41,181 --> 01:16:42,849
why not go ahead with it?
1175
01:16:42,849 --> 01:16:45,310
(jazz music)
1176
01:16:51,483 --> 01:16:53,735
- [Narrator] We seen have
the transsexual's willingness
1177
01:16:53,735 --> 01:16:55,570
to undergo trial by knife.
1178
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,493
We have witnessed the terrible
anguish of their lives
1179
01:17:01,493 --> 01:17:03,203
before this transformation.
1180
01:17:06,873 --> 01:17:09,751
We have followed them on
their remarkable journey
1181
01:17:09,751 --> 01:17:13,004
from despair and seen
how this radical reversal
1182
01:17:13,004 --> 01:17:15,841
of biological destiny can not only offer
1183
01:17:15,841 --> 01:17:20,387
the transsexual hope, but even happiness.
1184
01:17:20,387 --> 01:17:23,348
(fast jazz music)
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