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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,567 --> 00:00:03,100 [narrator] On "Tomorrow's World Today," we explore the cutting-edge 2 00:00:03,267 --> 00:00:05,868 advances that are shaping four different worlds. 3 00:00:06,033 --> 00:00:07,567 The world of inspiration, 4 00:00:07,734 --> 00:00:09,868 where the wonders of the natural world amaze 5 00:00:10,033 --> 00:00:11,200 and inspire us. 6 00:00:11,367 --> 00:00:12,467 The world of creation, 7 00:00:12,634 --> 00:00:15,567 where ideas come to life from traditional arts. 8 00:00:15,734 --> 00:00:17,300 The world of innovation, 9 00:00:17,467 --> 00:00:20,200 where ideas and inventions move us all forward. 10 00:00:20,367 --> 00:00:21,767 The world of production, 11 00:00:21,934 --> 00:00:23,267 where innovations are mass-produced 12 00:00:23,434 --> 00:00:25,167 to improve our lives. 13 00:00:25,334 --> 00:00:27,400 From Inventionland World Headquarters, 14 00:00:27,567 --> 00:00:29,901 here's your host, George Davison! 15 00:00:30,067 --> 00:00:32,667 Did you know that a hidden electrical grid 16 00:00:32,834 --> 00:00:34,400 powers your heart? 17 00:00:34,567 --> 00:00:36,467 Welcome to "Tomorrow's World Today." 18 00:00:36,634 --> 00:00:39,868 Your heart beats roughly 100,000 times, 19 00:00:40,033 --> 00:00:41,167 every day. 20 00:00:41,334 --> 00:00:44,267 That's 35 million pulses of life a year. 21 00:00:44,434 --> 00:00:48,567 And for centuries, this spark, it was a mystery. 22 00:00:48,734 --> 00:00:50,801 Until the 1700s, 23 00:00:50,968 --> 00:00:53,400 when these pioneers, Galvani and Volta, 24 00:00:53,567 --> 00:00:58,300 discovered that biology and electricity were linked. 25 00:00:58,467 --> 00:01:01,000 They asked a question at that time that was gonna take 26 00:01:01,167 --> 00:01:03,300 over 200 years to answer. 27 00:01:03,467 --> 00:01:06,667 If electricity was powering the heart, 28 00:01:06,834 --> 00:01:09,300 could we also use it to heal the heart? 29 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,667 Well, it took until the early 1900s, 30 00:01:13,834 --> 00:01:19,767 when Willem Einthoven first gave us the EKG. 31 00:01:19,934 --> 00:01:22,400 That was a map of the heart's rhythm. 32 00:01:22,567 --> 00:01:25,801 And we could finally visualize our electrical pathways. 33 00:01:25,968 --> 00:01:29,567 But for the next 50 years, we lacked a way to repair them 34 00:01:29,734 --> 00:01:31,400 without invasive surgery. 35 00:01:31,567 --> 00:01:34,100 So for decades, the standards were 36 00:01:34,267 --> 00:01:36,000 to use a big blade 37 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,267 to make the cut -- open heart surgery. 38 00:01:40,434 --> 00:01:42,167 Now that saved lives, 39 00:01:42,334 --> 00:01:46,901 but with recovery times up to a year, that toll's immense. 40 00:01:47,067 --> 00:01:50,767 So the process was innovated again in the 1980s, 41 00:01:50,934 --> 00:01:54,868 when we moved from the blade to the catheter, 42 00:01:55,033 --> 00:01:58,968 using extreme heat or cold 43 00:01:59,133 --> 00:02:02,868 to cauterize and rewire the heart from the inside out. 44 00:02:04,701 --> 00:02:07,567 Today, though, we've reached a new frontier -- 45 00:02:07,734 --> 00:02:09,868 pulsed electric fields. 46 00:02:10,033 --> 00:02:12,567 This technology doesn't burn or freeze. 47 00:02:12,734 --> 00:02:15,667 It uses ultra-rapid pulses 48 00:02:15,834 --> 00:02:19,400 that shoot holes into that problematic cell to kill it, 49 00:02:19,567 --> 00:02:22,000 leaving those healthy tissues unharmed. 50 00:02:22,167 --> 00:02:24,868 And the recovery time is near zero. 51 00:02:25,033 --> 00:02:26,367 Now, I'd like to learn more, 52 00:02:26,534 --> 00:02:28,901 so I'm gonna send Greg to the world of innovation 53 00:02:29,067 --> 00:02:31,300 to show us how a pulse of energy 54 00:02:31,467 --> 00:02:33,667 is rewriting the human heartbeat. 55 00:02:33,834 --> 00:02:35,267 It might just be 56 00:02:35,434 --> 00:02:38,267 the most important discovery of our lifetime. 57 00:02:44,501 --> 00:02:46,467 [Greg] Heart disease is one of the most prevalent 58 00:02:46,634 --> 00:02:48,467 medical issues facing the world. 59 00:02:48,634 --> 00:02:51,167 In this episode, we'll explore contemporary 60 00:02:51,334 --> 00:02:54,000 and cutting-edge diagnostic and treatment technology 61 00:02:54,167 --> 00:02:55,968 in the world of cardiac medicine. 62 00:02:56,133 --> 00:02:58,400 But first, we're here at Duke University Medical Center. 63 00:02:58,567 --> 00:03:00,400 We'll meet with Dr. Jonathan Piccini 64 00:03:00,567 --> 00:03:02,901 and discuss some of the basics of heart health 65 00:03:03,067 --> 00:03:04,467 and one of the most common ailments 66 00:03:04,634 --> 00:03:06,534 facing cardiac patients today. 67 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,467 -Dr. Piccini, nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you. 68 00:03:11,634 --> 00:03:13,100 Tell me about your role here at Duke Medicine? 69 00:03:13,267 --> 00:03:14,601 Sure, I'm a professor of medicine 70 00:03:14,767 --> 00:03:16,367 here at Duke in the School of Medicine, 71 00:03:16,534 --> 00:03:19,267 and I also direct the cardiac electrophysiology program 72 00:03:19,434 --> 00:03:20,901 for the Duke Health System, 73 00:03:21,067 --> 00:03:23,167 which is the part of cardiac care that focuses 74 00:03:23,334 --> 00:03:24,968 on heart rhythm problems. 75 00:03:25,133 --> 00:03:27,167 OK, well, speaking about heart disease in a more 76 00:03:27,334 --> 00:03:30,467 broad sense, what's the impact worldwide right now? 77 00:03:30,634 --> 00:03:34,067 I think most people are familiar with cardiac disease. 78 00:03:34,234 --> 00:03:36,467 It's the leading cause of death in the United States 79 00:03:36,634 --> 00:03:38,100 and across the world. 80 00:03:38,267 --> 00:03:41,167 More than 18 million people die of cardiovascular disease 81 00:03:41,334 --> 00:03:44,601 every year, and so people are familiar with many forms of it, 82 00:03:44,767 --> 00:03:48,901 including stroke and myocardial infarction and heart failure. 83 00:03:49,067 --> 00:03:51,801 But people are often less familiar with 84 00:03:51,968 --> 00:03:54,767 the heart disorders that affect the electrical system. 85 00:03:54,934 --> 00:03:57,667 And the most common disorder that affects more than 86 00:03:57,834 --> 00:04:00,267 33 million people across the world 87 00:04:00,434 --> 00:04:03,868 is an electrical disorder known as atrial fibrillation, which, 88 00:04:04,033 --> 00:04:06,501 colloquially people refer to it as AFib. 89 00:04:06,667 --> 00:04:08,100 And this is what you specialize in, 90 00:04:08,267 --> 00:04:10,167 and I'd really like to explore more about that. 91 00:04:10,334 --> 00:04:11,901 Yeah, let's talk some more and learn some more. 92 00:04:21,267 --> 00:04:23,267 So, Doctor, you mentioned that AFib is very common. 93 00:04:23,434 --> 00:04:24,968 Exactly how common is it? 94 00:04:25,133 --> 00:04:26,868 Yeah, it's so common that ultimately, one in four 95 00:04:27,033 --> 00:04:29,467 Americans are going to develop atrial fibrillation at some 96 00:04:29,634 --> 00:04:30,667 point in their lifetime. 97 00:04:30,834 --> 00:04:32,100 Does this affect people of all ages, 98 00:04:32,267 --> 00:04:33,567 or is it mostly older folks? 99 00:04:33,734 --> 00:04:35,367 It's predominantly a disease of aging. 100 00:04:35,534 --> 00:04:37,100 So, the older we get, 101 00:04:37,267 --> 00:04:39,000 the more common atrial fibrillation is. 102 00:04:39,167 --> 00:04:40,667 What exactly is happening in the heart 103 00:04:40,834 --> 00:04:42,267 when AFib starts to present itself? 104 00:04:42,434 --> 00:04:44,100 Yeah, so, when the heart's functioning normally, 105 00:04:44,267 --> 00:04:46,868 there's an orderly progression of electrical activity 106 00:04:47,033 --> 00:04:48,567 through the heart, through the top chambers 107 00:04:48,734 --> 00:04:50,167 down to the bottom chambers. 108 00:04:50,334 --> 00:04:53,100 And when the heart goes into atrial fibrillation, instead of 109 00:04:53,267 --> 00:04:56,267 the electricity moving orderly through the top chambers, 110 00:04:56,434 --> 00:04:59,367 kind of becomes chaotic and completely erratic. 111 00:04:59,534 --> 00:05:02,067 And when that happens, those top chambers, 112 00:05:02,234 --> 00:05:05,100 the booster pumps of the heart, do not function normally. 113 00:05:05,267 --> 00:05:06,701 Well, what are some of the symptoms that somebody 114 00:05:06,868 --> 00:05:07,934 might be experiencing that 115 00:05:07,934 --> 00:05:09,467 would lead them to believe that they have AFib? 116 00:05:09,634 --> 00:05:11,901 Some individuals will experience their heart racing. 117 00:05:12,067 --> 00:05:14,367 Others will experience their heart skipping beats 118 00:05:14,534 --> 00:05:16,400 or pounding irregularly. 119 00:05:16,567 --> 00:05:18,567 Other individuals, because those top chambers are 120 00:05:18,734 --> 00:05:22,467 not functioning efficiently, will have a loss of energy 121 00:05:22,634 --> 00:05:25,200 or fatigue or difficulty exercising. 122 00:05:25,367 --> 00:05:27,400 How does somebody know that that's coming from AFib and not 123 00:05:27,567 --> 00:05:28,567 some other disease? 124 00:05:28,734 --> 00:05:30,868 A lot of those symptoms are nonspecific. 125 00:05:31,033 --> 00:05:34,167 So, the way we make a diagnosis is we get an actual recording 126 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:36,100 of the heart rhythm because it is, after all, 127 00:05:36,267 --> 00:05:37,467 electrical condition. 128 00:05:37,467 --> 00:05:39,367 Someone has those symptoms and they go to their doctor, 129 00:05:39,534 --> 00:05:42,601 they may get an EKG that shows AFib, or they may wear 130 00:05:42,767 --> 00:05:45,767 a monitor for several days or weeks that documents 131 00:05:45,934 --> 00:05:47,400 the atrial fibrillation. 132 00:05:47,567 --> 00:05:49,901 Other times, people will have an irregular pulse, 133 00:05:50,067 --> 00:05:53,167 and that will lead to someone doing electrical investigation. 134 00:05:53,334 --> 00:05:54,334 [Greg] What are some of the treatments 135 00:05:54,334 --> 00:05:55,701 that are available now and what are some of 136 00:05:55,868 --> 00:05:57,667 the innovations that are coming down the road? 137 00:05:57,834 --> 00:05:59,267 So, the American Heart Association 138 00:05:59,434 --> 00:06:01,501 and the Heart Rhythm Society really emphasize 139 00:06:01,667 --> 00:06:03,100 three key areas. 140 00:06:03,267 --> 00:06:05,667 One is reducing the risk factors and the problems 141 00:06:05,834 --> 00:06:08,801 that cause or perpetuate atrial fibrillation. 142 00:06:08,968 --> 00:06:11,801 Another is making sure people are prevented against stroke, 143 00:06:11,968 --> 00:06:13,367 because stroke can be a complication 144 00:06:13,534 --> 00:06:14,868 of atrial fibrillation. 145 00:06:15,033 --> 00:06:17,267 And then the third part of treating atrial fibrillation is 146 00:06:17,434 --> 00:06:19,167 helping people feel better. 147 00:06:19,334 --> 00:06:20,767 And that has several components. 148 00:06:20,934 --> 00:06:23,267 One is making sure that the heart rate doesn't race 149 00:06:23,434 --> 00:06:24,968 and get too high. 150 00:06:25,133 --> 00:06:27,367 Probably the most important these days is 151 00:06:27,534 --> 00:06:29,667 getting someone back into normal rhythm, 152 00:06:29,834 --> 00:06:31,367 getting them back into sinus rhythm. 153 00:06:31,534 --> 00:06:32,767 And there's a variety of tools 154 00:06:32,934 --> 00:06:35,167 we have at our disposal to do that. 155 00:06:35,334 --> 00:06:38,467 Sometimes we put a patient asleep and shock their heart 156 00:06:38,634 --> 00:06:41,767 back into normal rhythm. That's called a cardioversion. 157 00:06:41,934 --> 00:06:44,267 Other times we can treat patients with medications 158 00:06:44,434 --> 00:06:47,100 that help the heart stay in normal rhythm. 159 00:06:47,267 --> 00:06:49,801 But one of the most exciting developments is something 160 00:06:49,968 --> 00:06:53,467 called ablation, where we go into the heart and we target 161 00:06:53,634 --> 00:06:56,667 the areas that initiate and trigger and maintain 162 00:06:56,834 --> 00:06:59,901 atrial fibrillation, and we destroy those tiny areas 163 00:07:00,133 --> 00:07:01,667 of heart tissue. -[Greg] All right. 164 00:07:01,834 --> 00:07:02,801 Well, Doctor, thank you very much. 165 00:07:02,968 --> 00:07:04,400 -It's been great. -Thank you for visiting. 166 00:07:22,767 --> 00:07:24,100 [Greg] At Duke University Medical, 167 00:07:24,267 --> 00:07:25,467 we learned from Dr. Piccini 168 00:07:25,634 --> 00:07:28,467 about the basics of AFib or atrial fibrillation. 169 00:07:28,634 --> 00:07:30,868 Now here at the Abbott Advanced Technology Center, 170 00:07:31,033 --> 00:07:32,868 we'll talk with Dr. Christopher Piorkowski 171 00:07:33,033 --> 00:07:34,667 about the cutting edge innovations being used 172 00:07:34,834 --> 00:07:36,467 to treat this very common heart condition. 173 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,200 Christopher, let's talk about ablation and how that works 174 00:07:41,367 --> 00:07:43,467 as a therapy for atrial fibrillation. 175 00:07:43,634 --> 00:07:45,167 Greg, this is an important question. 176 00:07:45,334 --> 00:07:47,501 In the United States, around 12 million patients 177 00:07:47,667 --> 00:07:49,467 are suffering from atrial fibrillation. 178 00:07:49,634 --> 00:07:52,167 Atrial fibrillation is an abnormality 179 00:07:52,334 --> 00:07:55,667 of the heart rhythm, and it has impact on quality of life, 180 00:07:55,834 --> 00:07:58,767 life expectancy, stroke risks, healthcare costs. 181 00:07:58,934 --> 00:08:02,000 So treating those patients is really, really important. 182 00:08:02,167 --> 00:08:06,000 Now, ablation in principle means destroying 183 00:08:06,167 --> 00:08:08,667 electrically unhealthy tissue. 184 00:08:08,834 --> 00:08:11,067 There is a close analogy to cancer treatment. 185 00:08:11,234 --> 00:08:12,868 In cancer treatment, physicians destroy 186 00:08:13,033 --> 00:08:14,167 the cancer tissue. 187 00:08:14,334 --> 00:08:15,868 In cardiac-electrophysiology, 188 00:08:16,033 --> 00:08:20,567 the physicians try to eliminate electrically unhealthy tissue. 189 00:08:20,734 --> 00:08:22,667 You can imagine that's not an easy task. 190 00:08:22,834 --> 00:08:25,767 When this all started, it was basically open heart surgery. 191 00:08:25,934 --> 00:08:27,667 So it was a very, very invasive 192 00:08:27,834 --> 00:08:30,000 procedure to have this done. -Correct. 193 00:08:30,167 --> 00:08:32,601 We are standing on the shoulders of surgeons. 194 00:08:32,767 --> 00:08:35,300 They taught us how to treat patients. 195 00:08:35,467 --> 00:08:38,300 Later, it transitioned into minimal-invasive therapies, 196 00:08:38,467 --> 00:08:41,100 therapies that were introduced with a catheter over the groin 197 00:08:41,267 --> 00:08:42,367 into the heart. 198 00:08:42,534 --> 00:08:45,167 And the technological evolution happened around 199 00:08:45,334 --> 00:08:46,367 the energy sources. 200 00:08:46,534 --> 00:08:49,367 For 20 to 30 years, radiofrequency energy was 201 00:08:49,534 --> 00:08:52,200 the main energy source to destroy 202 00:08:52,367 --> 00:08:54,467 the electrically unhealthy tissue, 203 00:08:54,634 --> 00:08:56,367 and it has done a lot of good to patients. 204 00:08:56,534 --> 00:08:57,868 It has moved the field forward. 205 00:08:58,033 --> 00:09:01,968 However, right now, we are in a moment of big transition 206 00:09:02,133 --> 00:09:03,167 to a new energy source. 207 00:09:03,334 --> 00:09:04,400 [Greg] Pulsed field ablation, 208 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,567 and that's what we're gonna learn about today. 209 00:09:05,734 --> 00:09:07,000 -I'm very excited. -Exactly. 210 00:09:07,167 --> 00:09:08,801 Pulsed field ablation is a new kid on the block, 211 00:09:08,968 --> 00:09:10,200 has a lot of promises. 212 00:09:10,367 --> 00:09:13,400 We in Abbott spend many, many resources to build 213 00:09:13,567 --> 00:09:15,901 pulsed field ablation catheters. I would like to show you one. 214 00:09:16,067 --> 00:09:17,534 Excellent. Let's go see. 215 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Christopher, there are other pulsed field ablation 216 00:09:23,167 --> 00:09:25,067 systems out there. What makes Volt so unique? 217 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,200 I would put it into one word. 218 00:09:28,367 --> 00:09:33,968 Volt was designed purposefully from the ground up. 219 00:09:34,133 --> 00:09:36,767 The main purpose in the design was to improve 220 00:09:36,934 --> 00:09:37,934 the lesion quality. 221 00:09:38,100 --> 00:09:39,767 We have talked about how relevant lesions are 222 00:09:39,934 --> 00:09:42,067 for effective treatment of atrial fibrillation. 223 00:09:42,234 --> 00:09:44,467 And there are multiple single design elements 224 00:09:44,634 --> 00:09:45,667 that went into this concept. 225 00:09:45,834 --> 00:09:48,100 I would just want to highlight a few of them. 226 00:09:48,267 --> 00:09:49,801 You see the eight splines of the catheter. 227 00:09:49,968 --> 00:09:52,501 These splines are flat and directing the energy 228 00:09:52,667 --> 00:09:53,901 into the tissue. 229 00:09:54,067 --> 00:09:55,601 Then, comes the balloon. 230 00:09:55,767 --> 00:09:58,801 The balloon is, of course, a great tool for simplicity 231 00:09:58,968 --> 00:10:02,100 of handling and stability, etc., 232 00:10:02,267 --> 00:10:03,968 but it's also a great insulator. 233 00:10:04,133 --> 00:10:06,567 So it insulates the blood and pushes the energy 234 00:10:06,734 --> 00:10:08,868 into the tissue to create deeper lesions. 235 00:10:09,033 --> 00:10:12,501 It also protects the red blood cells from the energy field 236 00:10:12,667 --> 00:10:15,400 so that the energy field cannot destroy red blood cells. 237 00:10:15,567 --> 00:10:17,767 So all these elements contributed 238 00:10:17,934 --> 00:10:19,167 to the catheter design. 239 00:10:19,334 --> 00:10:22,501 Again, it was built from the ground up 240 00:10:22,667 --> 00:10:25,367 as a new concept, as a new catheter. 241 00:10:25,534 --> 00:10:26,367 And that's what we're seeing here. 242 00:10:26,534 --> 00:10:27,601 So this is really revolution 243 00:10:27,767 --> 00:10:29,467 and not evolution. -Yes. 244 00:10:29,634 --> 00:10:31,467 -Well, I'd really love to see it in action. -Let's go. 245 00:10:32,901 --> 00:10:35,400 So, Christopher, this room is really impressive. 246 00:10:35,567 --> 00:10:36,701 Where are we? 247 00:10:36,701 --> 00:10:39,467 It's a simulated EP lab where we train physicians. 248 00:10:39,634 --> 00:10:40,968 And like in a real environment, 249 00:10:41,133 --> 00:10:43,367 we have Lauren as a support team in the control room. 250 00:10:43,534 --> 00:10:45,667 Great. Now, EP, electrophysiology. 251 00:10:45,834 --> 00:10:49,868 And that's basically the basis of Volt catheter system. 252 00:10:50,033 --> 00:10:52,200 So let's dive right in. Tell me all about it. 253 00:10:52,367 --> 00:10:55,000 So we've talked about the simplicity of the design, 254 00:10:55,167 --> 00:10:57,567 which was intentional and built from the ground, 255 00:10:57,734 --> 00:11:00,767 and the ease-of-use component and the safety aspects. 256 00:11:00,934 --> 00:11:02,701 And I want to showcase this to you by handing the case 257 00:11:02,868 --> 00:11:03,868 over to you. 258 00:11:04,033 --> 00:11:05,868 OK, I'm ready. 259 00:11:06,033 --> 00:11:08,801 What you see here is a hollow tube, a so-called sheath, 260 00:11:08,968 --> 00:11:10,300 sitting inside the left atrium. 261 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:12,701 You can turn it a little bit to see how you can stare with it, 262 00:11:12,868 --> 00:11:14,400 advance it, pull it back. 263 00:11:14,567 --> 00:11:16,767 Inside is already the Volt catheter. 264 00:11:16,934 --> 00:11:18,868 And now I would ask you to advance the Volt catheter 265 00:11:19,033 --> 00:11:21,467 out of the sheath. OK, stop right there. 266 00:11:21,634 --> 00:11:22,567 Inflate the balloon, please. 267 00:11:22,734 --> 00:11:25,167 You will see how the device goes up. 268 00:11:25,334 --> 00:11:26,367 Yeah, perfect. 269 00:11:26,534 --> 00:11:27,868 And now advance the whole system 270 00:11:28,033 --> 00:11:29,968 into the pulmonary vein, gently. 271 00:11:30,133 --> 00:11:31,300 Perfect. 272 00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:33,100 You're sitting now in the left upper pulmonary vein. 273 00:11:33,267 --> 00:11:35,200 All electrodes have good tissue contact. 274 00:11:35,367 --> 00:11:36,267 Everything is blue. 275 00:11:36,434 --> 00:11:37,667 That's a perfect spot for ablation. 276 00:11:37,834 --> 00:11:39,868 And we initiate the first ablation. 277 00:11:40,033 --> 00:11:41,467 The mapping is really incredible. 278 00:11:41,634 --> 00:11:43,701 This is really where the doctor 279 00:11:43,868 --> 00:11:45,567 is able to see exactly what's happening. 280 00:11:45,734 --> 00:11:48,701 Oh, we spent so much effort to make this really accurate. 281 00:11:48,868 --> 00:11:51,567 -How does it feel to manipulate? -It feels very simple. 282 00:11:51,734 --> 00:11:54,267 Every flash is actually the energy being applied 283 00:11:54,434 --> 00:11:56,167 to that vein. -Yes, exactly. 284 00:11:56,334 --> 00:11:57,601 Now the ablation is done, actually. 285 00:11:57,767 --> 00:11:58,901 You see the blue dots is where 286 00:11:59,067 --> 00:12:00,667 the little scars have been placed. 287 00:12:00,834 --> 00:12:03,667 Now I would like to ask you to rotate the catheter 288 00:12:03,834 --> 00:12:05,501 a little bit into the offset. 289 00:12:05,667 --> 00:12:07,100 Just rotate it gently. 290 00:12:07,267 --> 00:12:09,000 Pull it back if it's a little difficult. 291 00:12:09,167 --> 00:12:10,367 Perfect, you're there. 292 00:12:10,534 --> 00:12:12,901 And now keep it in between, keep the rotation 293 00:12:13,067 --> 00:12:15,501 on the catheter, and we do the second application. 294 00:12:15,667 --> 00:12:18,000 This is designed to have two applications 295 00:12:18,167 --> 00:12:19,367 to isolate the pulmonary veins. 296 00:12:19,534 --> 00:12:21,701 In clinical routine, we see four to five, 297 00:12:21,868 --> 00:12:24,400 because the pulmonary veins change in their sizes. 298 00:12:24,567 --> 00:12:27,367 But after that, you see like a continuous ring of 299 00:12:27,534 --> 00:12:29,467 little scars around the pulmonary vein. 300 00:12:29,634 --> 00:12:31,267 And that's the purpose of the therapy, 301 00:12:31,434 --> 00:12:34,267 to isolate the pulmonary vein with a little scar zone, 302 00:12:34,434 --> 00:12:35,767 because inside the pulmonary vein, 303 00:12:35,934 --> 00:12:39,400 that's where the tissue sits that initiates 304 00:12:39,567 --> 00:12:43,167 the wrong electrical impulses that create atrial fibrillation. 305 00:12:43,334 --> 00:12:45,868 So basically, all of those little scars are going to keep 306 00:12:46,033 --> 00:12:47,767 those errant electrical systems that are creating 307 00:12:47,934 --> 00:12:49,901 the arrhythmia from even reaching the vein. 308 00:12:50,067 --> 00:12:51,567 Yeah, you jail them away. 309 00:12:51,734 --> 00:12:53,000 Christopher, amazing technology, 310 00:12:53,167 --> 00:12:54,367 thank you very much. -Has been a pleasure. 311 00:13:09,767 --> 00:13:11,100 [Greg] So far in this episode, 312 00:13:11,267 --> 00:13:13,667 we've learned about the basics of atrial fibrillation 313 00:13:13,834 --> 00:13:15,367 and the new cutting-edge technology -- 314 00:13:15,534 --> 00:13:18,067 pulsed field ablation being used to treat it. 315 00:13:18,234 --> 00:13:20,300 And now we're here at St. Bernard's Medical Center 316 00:13:20,467 --> 00:13:22,000 in Jonesboro, Arkansas. 317 00:13:22,167 --> 00:13:23,400 We're going to talk with a physician 318 00:13:23,567 --> 00:13:25,901 using this new technology in the real world. 319 00:13:26,067 --> 00:13:28,467 Let's head inside right now and talk with Dr. Devi Nair. 320 00:13:31,601 --> 00:13:33,367 -Hi, Dr. Nair. -Well, hello. 321 00:13:33,534 --> 00:13:35,767 Well, you are an electrophysiologist. 322 00:13:35,934 --> 00:13:38,067 Tell me a little bit about what that is. 323 00:13:38,234 --> 00:13:41,567 So, an electrophysiologist is an electrician for the heart. 324 00:13:41,734 --> 00:13:43,467 So when my patients think about the heart, 325 00:13:43,634 --> 00:13:44,667 they think about the plumbers 326 00:13:45,667 --> 00:13:47,167 who take care of the arteries. 327 00:13:47,334 --> 00:13:48,767 I take care of the electrical system, 328 00:13:48,934 --> 00:13:50,567 which keeps the heart in pace. 329 00:13:50,734 --> 00:13:52,868 I've been learning about pulsed field ablation 330 00:13:53,033 --> 00:13:55,167 and how that's a relatively new technology 331 00:13:55,334 --> 00:13:57,400 that's being used to treat AFib. 332 00:13:57,567 --> 00:13:59,667 Tell me how that works for you. 333 00:13:59,834 --> 00:14:03,000 So, ablation is a technology that we have used for decades 334 00:14:03,167 --> 00:14:04,968 to take care of cardiac rhythm problems. 335 00:14:05,133 --> 00:14:06,868 Historically, when we used ablation, 336 00:14:07,033 --> 00:14:08,467 we've always used thermal energy. 337 00:14:08,634 --> 00:14:10,901 We've used heat or cold energy, 338 00:14:11,067 --> 00:14:12,367 which means we go into the heart, 339 00:14:12,534 --> 00:14:13,968 we find the erratic signal, 340 00:14:14,133 --> 00:14:15,767 we either freeze it away with cold 341 00:14:15,934 --> 00:14:17,701 or we burn it away with heat. 342 00:14:17,868 --> 00:14:19,901 The problem with thermal energy is that it causes 343 00:14:20,067 --> 00:14:21,767 collateral damage. 344 00:14:21,934 --> 00:14:25,267 Now, pulse field ablation is a very new technology that 345 00:14:25,434 --> 00:14:27,801 delivers short bursts of electrical energy 346 00:14:27,968 --> 00:14:30,100 into the erratic area in the heart 347 00:14:30,267 --> 00:14:32,400 and destroys those abnormal tissues, 348 00:14:32,567 --> 00:14:35,467 which allows us to restore the heart's rhythm back, 349 00:14:35,634 --> 00:14:37,868 but without causing collateral damage. 350 00:14:38,033 --> 00:14:39,767 Well, what are some of the other advantages for you 351 00:14:39,934 --> 00:14:41,400 as a physician and for your patients? 352 00:14:41,567 --> 00:14:44,200 Number one for my patients has always been safety. 353 00:14:44,367 --> 00:14:46,100 Obviously, for me as well, 354 00:14:46,267 --> 00:14:48,767 being able to deliver ablation strategies 355 00:14:48,934 --> 00:14:51,567 without having to worry about many of the older safety 356 00:14:51,734 --> 00:14:53,701 concerns that we had is big. 357 00:14:53,868 --> 00:14:55,367 The other thing that stands out 358 00:14:55,534 --> 00:14:57,000 is how quick these procedures are, 359 00:14:57,167 --> 00:15:00,067 which means the patients are not really under sedation 360 00:15:00,234 --> 00:15:01,701 or anesthesia for too long, 361 00:15:01,868 --> 00:15:03,567 which means their recovery is quicker. 362 00:15:03,734 --> 00:15:05,667 And most of my patients are actually back to living 363 00:15:05,834 --> 00:15:09,100 their normal lives within a few days, which is, I think, 364 00:15:09,267 --> 00:15:10,567 a huge advantage for the patients. 365 00:15:10,734 --> 00:15:11,667 Yeah, that's amazing. 366 00:15:11,834 --> 00:15:12,834 I would love to learn more about this. 367 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,267 Absolutely. Let me show you into the lab. 368 00:15:25,067 --> 00:15:27,300 Well, Doctor, this lab looks almost exactly like 369 00:15:27,467 --> 00:15:29,267 the simulation lab I was in with Dr. Piorkowski. 370 00:15:29,434 --> 00:15:31,601 Now, when I got my hands on with Volt, we used 371 00:15:31,767 --> 00:15:34,868 a mapping screen like this, and was -- it's amazing. 372 00:15:35,033 --> 00:15:36,267 But what is this? 373 00:15:36,434 --> 00:15:38,167 Well, Greg, this is the lab that I work in, 374 00:15:38,334 --> 00:15:40,667 and these are images from a real case 375 00:15:40,834 --> 00:15:43,367 with the Volt PFA system that we recently did. 376 00:15:43,534 --> 00:15:45,601 So what you're seeing over there is an intracardiac echo, 377 00:15:45,767 --> 00:15:48,501 which is a camera inside the heart, which shows us 378 00:15:48,667 --> 00:15:51,667 how the Volt balloon is sitting inside the heart 379 00:15:51,834 --> 00:15:54,868 and in proximity or in touching the cardiac tissue, 380 00:15:55,033 --> 00:15:57,868 and how it integrates well with the mapping system. 381 00:15:58,033 --> 00:16:01,000 And this kind of gives me a very seamless workflow 382 00:16:01,167 --> 00:16:03,667 into delivering pulsed field ablation. 383 00:16:03,834 --> 00:16:07,901 Now, it's very easy to see exactly where the Volt is. 384 00:16:08,067 --> 00:16:11,400 That proximity to that cardiac tissue, how important is that? 385 00:16:11,567 --> 00:16:14,000 One of the specific advantages of the Volt system is 386 00:16:14,167 --> 00:16:15,701 how it's a balloon-based technology 387 00:16:15,868 --> 00:16:18,767 that allows us to have very good proximity to the heart. 388 00:16:18,934 --> 00:16:21,667 So you can see on that image how that balloon is touching 389 00:16:21,834 --> 00:16:24,067 the heart tissue, which prevents destruction 390 00:16:24,234 --> 00:16:26,000 of red blood cells, which is very important 391 00:16:26,167 --> 00:16:27,501 in certain patients, especially 392 00:16:27,667 --> 00:16:28,901 patients who have kidney disease. 393 00:16:28,901 --> 00:16:31,367 Now, you've talked a lot about the safety and efficiency 394 00:16:31,534 --> 00:16:33,067 of a system like Volt. 395 00:16:33,234 --> 00:16:35,067 What are some of the advantages that'll bring to -- 396 00:16:35,234 --> 00:16:37,067 to treating AFib going forward? 397 00:16:37,234 --> 00:16:38,901 AFib is a growing problem. 398 00:16:39,067 --> 00:16:41,167 It is probably one of the most common arrhythmias 399 00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:42,267 in the globe. 400 00:16:42,434 --> 00:16:43,868 And one of the things historically, 401 00:16:44,033 --> 00:16:47,200 we've waited for patients to fail a medication. 402 00:16:47,367 --> 00:16:49,801 And we've been very, very reactive in taking care of 403 00:16:49,968 --> 00:16:51,167 these patients. 404 00:16:51,167 --> 00:16:53,701 What I would envision for the future with technologies 405 00:16:53,868 --> 00:16:56,767 like Volt is that we're able to take this to the patients 406 00:16:56,934 --> 00:16:59,968 early on, be more proactive in their care, 407 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,868 and get this therapy to the patients early on 408 00:17:03,033 --> 00:17:05,501 in their disease rather than wait till it progresses. 409 00:17:05,667 --> 00:17:06,767 Well, Doctor, thank you very much. 410 00:17:06,934 --> 00:17:08,667 -This has been great. -Absolutely, absolutely. 411 00:17:22,767 --> 00:17:24,801 [George] Oh, hey, Dr. Tung! 412 00:17:24,968 --> 00:17:27,267 You're here. Welcome to Inventionland. 413 00:17:27,434 --> 00:17:29,501 -Good to see you again. -Good to see you as well. 414 00:17:29,667 --> 00:17:32,100 I was looking forward to you coming in, because 415 00:17:32,267 --> 00:17:34,467 I've had some, uh, reflections lately. 416 00:17:34,634 --> 00:17:38,200 A really good friend of mine's wife had a heart situation 417 00:17:38,367 --> 00:17:40,400 and they found her in a bad way, 418 00:17:40,567 --> 00:17:42,300 but they got her back in order. 419 00:17:42,467 --> 00:17:45,667 And I was hoping you could talk with me a little bit about, 420 00:17:45,834 --> 00:17:49,100 you know, what is the best way I should be living my life 421 00:17:49,267 --> 00:17:51,501 or what's the best way to go forward 422 00:17:51,667 --> 00:17:53,667 and to keep good heart health? 423 00:17:53,834 --> 00:17:55,100 This is the most common question 424 00:17:55,267 --> 00:17:56,167 that we get as cardiologists. 425 00:17:56,334 --> 00:17:57,868 And if you start with the basic, 426 00:17:58,033 --> 00:17:59,467 which is just avoidance of toxins, 427 00:17:59,634 --> 00:18:01,601 which not only is about cigarettes and alcohol, 428 00:18:01,767 --> 00:18:04,567 but sugars and refined carbohydrates 429 00:18:04,734 --> 00:18:05,601 and highly processed foods, 430 00:18:05,767 --> 00:18:07,067 those are toxins as well. 431 00:18:07,234 --> 00:18:08,567 But, really, there's this emphasis 432 00:18:08,734 --> 00:18:11,801 on cardiometabolic health and earlier detection. 433 00:18:11,968 --> 00:18:13,667 And when you think about conditions like 434 00:18:13,834 --> 00:18:16,868 atrial fibrillation, it runs with obesity, being overweight, 435 00:18:17,033 --> 00:18:19,367 where two out of three Americans are now, overweight. 436 00:18:19,534 --> 00:18:23,100 So it's really being able to prevent some of that spiral 437 00:18:23,267 --> 00:18:25,667 that occurs with diabetes, obesity, 438 00:18:25,834 --> 00:18:27,267 and then, inflammatory states. 439 00:18:27,434 --> 00:18:30,300 Atrial fibrillation used to be thought as just a nuisance. 440 00:18:30,467 --> 00:18:31,801 Like, "Oh, I've got this irregular rhythm." 441 00:18:31,968 --> 00:18:33,467 "Oh, grandma used to live in that." 442 00:18:33,634 --> 00:18:35,767 But now we understand that it's a precursor to stroke. 443 00:18:35,934 --> 00:18:38,000 It increases the risk of a stroke by five. 444 00:18:38,167 --> 00:18:41,400 It increases the risk of heart failure by three. 445 00:18:41,567 --> 00:18:44,100 So by being able to pick up on some electrical signals 446 00:18:44,267 --> 00:18:48,167 in the heart, we might be able to predict if these things 447 00:18:48,334 --> 00:18:51,267 could have been prevented, you know, down the road. 448 00:18:51,434 --> 00:18:54,467 So...wearing a device, 449 00:18:55,667 --> 00:19:00,067 eating more healthily, getting outside, whole foods, 450 00:19:00,234 --> 00:19:01,868 that kind of thing. 451 00:19:02,033 --> 00:19:03,868 OK, we can do a lot of that. 452 00:19:04,033 --> 00:19:06,501 I was hoping you could project as well, 453 00:19:06,667 --> 00:19:09,667 you know, where are we going in the future in this field? 454 00:19:09,834 --> 00:19:12,868 Can you talk a little bit about tomorrow's world? 455 00:19:13,033 --> 00:19:15,567 It will all be based on early detection 456 00:19:15,734 --> 00:19:17,667 and easier, safer therapies. 457 00:19:17,834 --> 00:19:19,267 So you can pick something up early, 458 00:19:19,434 --> 00:19:20,567 but if you can't do anything about it, 459 00:19:20,734 --> 00:19:21,667 it doesn't mean anything. 460 00:19:21,834 --> 00:19:23,167 And if you've got a great therapy, 461 00:19:23,334 --> 00:19:24,701 but you got problems detecting it, 462 00:19:24,868 --> 00:19:25,801 doesn't mean anything. 463 00:19:25,968 --> 00:19:27,467 So they're really tied hand-in-hand. 464 00:19:27,634 --> 00:19:28,868 The early detection part, 465 00:19:29,033 --> 00:19:30,367 which is all the different watches that can pick up 466 00:19:30,534 --> 00:19:32,000 arrhythmias now. -Yes. 467 00:19:32,167 --> 00:19:33,868 In the future, it will be on things 468 00:19:34,033 --> 00:19:35,367 that you and I didn't expect. 469 00:19:35,534 --> 00:19:37,901 It could be through facial recognition in a mirror. 470 00:19:38,067 --> 00:19:39,400 It could be on standing on a scale. 471 00:19:39,567 --> 00:19:41,167 So atrial fibrillation will be something 472 00:19:41,334 --> 00:19:43,367 that could be picked up in the wild 473 00:19:43,534 --> 00:19:44,968 and not in the office or in the hospital 474 00:19:45,133 --> 00:19:46,100 when it's too late. 475 00:19:46,267 --> 00:19:48,667 Then, if you have a therapy, 476 00:19:48,834 --> 00:19:50,467 something like ablation that we do now, 477 00:19:50,634 --> 00:19:52,000 which is just going in with the vein of the leg, 478 00:19:52,167 --> 00:19:53,200 it's not surgical. 479 00:19:53,367 --> 00:19:54,667 And with pulse field, 480 00:19:54,834 --> 00:19:57,300 it's a lot safer and it's a lot faster. 481 00:19:57,467 --> 00:19:59,367 This is something that can be done as a day procedure 482 00:19:59,534 --> 00:20:01,868 and under an hour under some sedation. 483 00:20:02,033 --> 00:20:06,000 So by being able to quiet down atrial fibrillation or even 484 00:20:06,167 --> 00:20:09,667 eradicate it with a very minimally invasive therapy, 485 00:20:09,834 --> 00:20:12,767 that will move the needle for longevity, reduction of stroke, 486 00:20:12,934 --> 00:20:14,767 and heart failure. -That's amazing. 487 00:20:14,934 --> 00:20:15,934 Mm-hmm. 488 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:18,100 Thank you for telling us a little more about 489 00:20:18,267 --> 00:20:20,300 tomorrow's world. I really appreciate it. 490 00:20:20,467 --> 00:20:22,901 Well, that's another edition of "Tomorrow's World Today." 491 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,767 So we have some new medical devices that we're working on 492 00:20:26,934 --> 00:20:27,968 in Inventionland. -Mm-hmm. 493 00:20:28,133 --> 00:20:29,167 I'd love to show you a few things. 494 00:20:29,334 --> 00:20:30,901 -You good for that? -I would love it. 495 00:20:31,067 --> 00:20:33,400 Come on, let's go down and we'll go into the lab. 496 00:20:35,868 --> 00:20:39,567 [Greg] And remember, tomorrow's world is where inspiration 497 00:20:39,734 --> 00:20:42,968 and creation drive innovation and production. 498 00:20:43,133 --> 00:20:44,067 See you next time. 40348

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