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on the phone in Chicago
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1941 1941
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things that helped me in learning to
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play the harmonica was that I realized
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that I could never speak
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the way any other individual
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spoke on the harmonica each has their
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own way of saying things so I just went
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ahead and got to a point of learning the
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instrument well enough that I could
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speak the way I wanted to speak which is
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really a nice thing about this
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instrument it's such a personal
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instrument it's really like a horn from
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the heart
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first day I was in Chicago
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I was walking around the neighborhood
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you know just trying to
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Chicago was a pretty big town biggest
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town I'd ever seen and and I saw a guy a
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white guy sitting on some steps in front
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of an apartment building playing guitar
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and drinking a quart of beer and he was
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playing Blues I said wow this has got to
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be my type of guy and I went over and
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started talking to him and we you know
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Butterfield he wasn't playing much
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harmonica at that time
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he played mostly guitar
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and shortly after that he took up the
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harmonica and within six months
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I use a natural genius on the instrument
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he just got way good in a short amount
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of time
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Paul seemed to start at full speed he
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would go for it
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absolutely and he had
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tremendous courage
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I mean you cannot minimize the courage
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it took
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to go into a blues club and sit in
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I'm astonished by
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itself
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I'm here at Silvio's which was an
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incredible Blues place and the home base
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of Howlin Wolf obviously it's a field
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right now
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and it's been gone so long there's a
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tree here
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it's huge
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and my father Paul Butterfield
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Barry Goldberg Charlie muscle White
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they all cut their teeth here Michael
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Bloomfield and the way they cut their
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teeth here was wolf would call these
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guys up on stage to play with them and
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and what an honor that must have been
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and really if you think standing on the
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stage with your Heroes at that time
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didn't make you go home and practice
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your instrument you got to be crazy
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this room is definitely a part of my
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father's sound
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all night long
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Hyde Park Illinois the home of the
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University of Chicago is a one and a
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half square mile neighborhood on
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Chicago's South Side until the early
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1950s Hyde Park was an almost
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exclusively White Community surrounded
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on three sides by African-American
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communities many of whose residents had
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migrated from the south
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beginning in the mid-1950s Hyde Park
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became one of Chicago's most racially
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diverse neighborhoods at a time when
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other parts of the country were
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struggling with race relations
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things weren't too cool it was way
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before
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civil rights you know
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and even though Chicago was better than
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Oklahoma was it was rough it was
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it was Hardcore segregated
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and uh
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Chicago was a little cooler but Hyde
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Park was real cool
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and in that area surrounding University
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we're 50 60 70 blues bars all with a
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band there was Blues being played by the
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best of the players and it was there in
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Hyde Park at Paul Bogger field was born
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and raised
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folklore Society was the biggest
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organization on campus it was there I
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met Paul Butterfield it was there we
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started to do a few things together I'd
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play guitar
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and he'd play harmonica we called
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ourselves Nick and Paul butter and I
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would go and play at the parties Nick
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gravenitis and uh
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we we didn't have any money we would do
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stuff like Whittle everybody got drunk
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and then go look in the freezer and
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throw a bunch of steaks in the alley and
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pick him up on a way home you know
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at a certain point the house band at the
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twist party
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became Paul and Elven and they had a
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Rhythm Section known as the Wilson
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Brothers a couple of black guys
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the band sounded good
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and it was an atypically integrated
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scene racially
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some black young people would come from
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the neighborhood to dance and nearby
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they're set a small piano
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which I would feel out and play along
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this guy named Norman dayron he had a
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tape recorder and I guess he was a
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school teacher professor at the
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University or something
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and one day he told Butterfield and
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cotton and me you guys want to hear what
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you sound like so he got us to come to
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this building that was empty it was in
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the evening at the University of Chicago
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and he set up his Walnut sack tape
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recorder
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it was me and cotton and Butterfield and
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Billy boy Arnold
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the good thing about butter was he was
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one of the few harmonica players you'll
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ever see who wasn't totally dominated by
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Little Walter their style is so
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attractive that it just stops people in
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their tracks and they can't think of any
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other way to go you know
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and Butterfield somehow he he was always
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himself
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I became aware of Butterfield one night
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he showed up at a place I was working
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with a little smoky Smothers then
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place called a blue flame
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he was on the white person in the place
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at the time hanging around wanted to get
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a chance to sit in with the band after
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he called the band back off the break
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I'm going to get this white boy up in
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that end play a little bit and everybody
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got quiet he was his white boy going to
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do
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he showed him what he could do you know
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he really showed him what he could do
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and he kept showing it
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people got some of the whites would
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start to coming in hey y'all gonna have
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that white boy back up you know the
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following week and it just went on and
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on and it kept going and never stopped
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like all Brothers we struggle we
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competed
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but we also
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theme old western movies always had to
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do with
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somebody seeking revenge for somebody
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who killed their brother
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so if anybody messed with Paul
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I was on it and the same if they messed
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with me he was on it so we were Rivals
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and yet very close
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I think I probably first met Paul I must
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have been nine perhaps because I can
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remember him I can remember walking to
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school and there he was this antic
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character on the other side of the
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street never never just walking he was
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helping or jumping or laughing and uh so
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he decided to throw some Stones across
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the street at me so that was really my
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my introduction to Paul Butterfield he
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was utterly Charming
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gorgeous looking with his blue eyes and
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his dark hair and who knew that 15 years
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later I'd become his sister-in-law he
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was for for a long time he was just
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Peter's younger brother to me her
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parents certainly provided both of us
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with every advantage in a sense
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not material things but exposure to
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music the Arts things they valued
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that we value
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so we felt we had a very privileged
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upbringing
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they grew up without a TV
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they grew up listening to classical
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music all the time my grandmother
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took uh took my dad to the symphony
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orchestra in Chicago
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and he picked out
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a cellist I believe it was that was Out
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Of Tune
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and she knew right then that he had a
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special
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Talent his brother played the clarinet
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and Paul took up flute our parents
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got him a good teacher from the uh
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Symphony and he played for a while
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Paul and I went to high school together
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at the University of Chicago laboratory
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school new high the school was wonderful
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in that it really tried to engage
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students to be able to be the ones to
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initiate the ideas it wasn't a call in
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response it wasn't a now you do this and
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the answer is that it was very much
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conversation based and lucky for Paul he
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was a good talker he could talk his way
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out of just about anything so it was a
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good place for him to be
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he was um not entirely focused student
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bring raisins to to with his lunch every
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day me throwing those all around getting
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a little trouble throw a chair out the
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window an instigator yeah
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his energy came out in his singing as
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well he was he was a member of the of
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our Jimmy shanties which was the name of
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our high school choir and he also was
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involved in various shows but again it
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wasn't that he had such a wonderful
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voice it was his energy and his
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personality that always carried it he
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brought it to the music at an intensity
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in a passion and he just worked it until
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he could do it
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and he was a leader not a leader in in a
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standard leader sense when you think of
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somebody who's you know says I will take
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charge and I will do it was more the um
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the follow me along because I'm having
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such a good time that kind of a leader
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people wanted to be by him
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After High School my brother who was
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somewhat of an athletic Star first he'd
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had a scholarship to Brown University in
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track and field
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and then he suffered an injury
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and so that was kind of out the window
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but he did get into University of
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Illinois
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but in the spring and summer before he
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would go off to University of Illinois
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he took his deep plunge
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into the blues into the harmonica
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the way Paul mastered the harmonica was
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simply to virtually play it 24 7. he
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used to go out to a peninsula on the
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lakefront in Chicago just north of 57th
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Street beach
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it was called Promontory Point
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I'd go and see him and I knew not to
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bother him because he would be totally
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absorbed in his playing
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so by the time he was ready to go to
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college
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he went to college let's say he went on
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a Monday
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he stayed through Thursday
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and came back to Chicago
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and hung out with his friends and was on
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the blue scene then after a while he
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would
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go on Monday and come back on Tuesday
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and then after a while he wouldn't go at
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all
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so and nobody had a clue
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that he was even in town
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I remember I took him to his first Club
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Smitty's Corners 35th Street muddy
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waterspan and we sort of hustled our way
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in the door we're both just young punks
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no ID
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and then we would hear things like the
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police would call and somebody had
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pulled a car over and there a bunch of
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unsavory characters in it including
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my brother
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and then my father who you know was a
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lawyer could go down to the station and
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get them out
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Paul takes his plunge into the blues at
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a time when folk music is enjoying a
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Renaissance among American Youth
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characterized by acoustic
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instrumentation and themes of social
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justice and led by artists like Bob
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Dylan Joan Baez Pete Seeger and many
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traditional and contemporary folk
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musicians the folk boom of the early 60s
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spawns thriving folk music scenes in
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major metropolitan areas and college
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towns throughout the U.S in Boston a
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young folk he soon to make his own
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musical Mark sets out on a journey
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across the country in search of new
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musicians and new sounds
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it was 1961 when I got to Chicago and I
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met Paul Butterfield and I was 21 and he
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was 19. he must have liked me because we
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became friends very quickly and I was
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glad of it because I didn't know anybody
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in Chicago and here I had this guy who
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was obviously a good musician taking me
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around to all these places that I never
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would have been able to see I never
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would have seen Muddy Waters at Pepper's
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lounge or Howling Wolf if Paul hadn't
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taken me there and both times we went
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there we were the only white people in
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the place yet they all knew Paul and
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they treated him just like a friend
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I got the feeling like muddy really
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liked Paul a lot and that he was glad to
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be able to teach him and show him and
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have somebody a young person
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and specifically a young white person
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who could already play great blues
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harmonica
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both Muddy Waters and I think especially
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Howling Wolf were very powerful Dynamic
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performers they they were intimidating
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in a certain way they were very strong
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and I could see that Paul had that kind
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of quality about him too even at that
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young age so that later on as he formed
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the blues band and and became well known
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that same strong quality was in Paul
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foreign
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in the early 1960s Chicago is arguably
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the urban Blues capital of the world
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by day it's the home of the renowned
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Chess Records whose roster of stars
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includes Chuck Berry Willie Dixon
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Howland Wolfe and Muddy Waters
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who always special I'd seen him numerous
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times at chess sitting in the music
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musician's waiting room
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he go up I don't know I don't know he
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was playing but they would let him come
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you know he got to know muddy he got to
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know Little Walter he got to know all
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the players
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at night the biggest names in the Blues
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perform at over a hundred clubs in the
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tough black neighborhoods on the city's
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South and West sides Paul Butterfield
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and Nick ravenitis are regulars on this
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late night circuit listening learning
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and sometimes sitting in
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Nick carries a pistol for protection
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live Blues doesn't arrive on the mostly
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white north side of Chicago until the
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summer of 1963 when a bar called Big
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John's contacts Paul about putting
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together a band to perform there four
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nights a week
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when barter first started playing Big
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John's it was when he was at a
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Crossroads in his life
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family pressure
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get a job you know get serious that's
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how that band started
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Paul knew what he wanted he wanted a
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dynamite Rhythm Section and he got the
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best Rhythm Section in Chicago howling
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Wolf's Rhythm Section with Jerome Arnold
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and Sam Lake
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what made me go with Butterfield he
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opened me 20 bucks a night and I was
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only getting seven a night with the wolf
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it was just four of us myself Jerome
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almond Butterfield and Evan Bishop
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that's the original band when I left
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wolf Jerome came with me so suddenly
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Paul Butterfield had howling Wolf's
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Rhythm Section
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instant credibility
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and the people on the North side went
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nuts not only on the North side across
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the country
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it was an idea whose time had come you
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know I think it was kind of overdue we
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were at the right place at the right
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time the big beautiful body of Music the
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blues the American Blues the black blues
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in this huge white audience that never
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to any extent met and the idea just
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caught fire
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there were all sorts of characters
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people from Second City would come in
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David Steinberg Robert Klein Ken Nordeen
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the great word Jazz hipster would be
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hustling pool in the back room there
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would be socialites coming from the near
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North Side Lakeshore Drive there would
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be robbers burglars pimps [ __ ]
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anything you can imagine under one flag
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the Blues
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[Music]
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thank you
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[Music]
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Butterfield was a legend in Chicago and
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worried about him was spreading
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and Fritz Richmond told Paul Rothschild
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Paul you ought to go see this guy and he
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goes to Chicago and he sees Butterfield
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and said to Butterfield I want to record
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you and Butterfield says okay and he
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said let's go on over to this other
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place and they go and and they see Mike
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Bloomfield playing with the Mike
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Bloomfield band
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and Paul asked The Logical question hey
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why is Mike playing with your band he
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said I've tried a number of times and I
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can't get him to do it well Rothschild
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could pretty much convince anybody if
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anything
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and he got Bloomfield to join the
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Butterfield Blues Band
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about the time that there was a
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possibility suddenly of a recording
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contract
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which was something that I don't think
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Paul or any of the other members of the
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band ever envisioned happening
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uh Paul got his draft notice the draft
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notice was really a descent so that's
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the way we reviewed it
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I think Paul just saw this as oh my God
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here I almost have it and it's being
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taken away from me
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I never Virginia McEwen it was a bar
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made at big John's
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she knew of Paul's plight and she
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offered to Mary Ball to keep him out of
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the draft
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she could very well have saved his
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career and saved his life
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though it wasn't meant as a traditional
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marriage
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they did have a son in 1965 and they
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were close but not family close although
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later Paul became very involved in
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Gabriel's life and it was important to
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both of them I think
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another thing about Paul Rothschild
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is he introduced my brother to Albert
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Grossman who was a well-known manager of
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Bob Dylan Peter Paul and Mary and Albert
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was very taken with Paul's band
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and gave them a lot of exposure here and
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then Nationwide
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and the band went into the studio
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we put them in a studio I thought it was
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pretty good and we pressed up 10 000
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copies because the Paul Butterfield
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blues band had a track on sampler number
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six and it was selling well in Chicago
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and it turned out to be Butterfield
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blues band track that was making it
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happen
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I had become a pilot I started flying
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when I was 1960 and it's now
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1964 and I have my own airplane and
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we're flying up to visit Tom Rush's aunt
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on Martha's Vineyard on a one beautiful
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Saturday afternoon and Paul Rothschild
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says
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I hate to tell you this but I've
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listened to the record again and don't
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think I got it
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at which point I put the plane into a
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shallow dive
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scaring the crap out of Rothschild and I
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said you want to tell me that again and
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he said I don't think I got it I think
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we've got to scrap the records I said
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what do you mean you don't have it he
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said I it's not as good as it could be
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well that's all you have to say to me
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all right I'll scrap them
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thank you
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foreign
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by 1965 young people are tuning in to
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music played on electric plugged in
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instruments artists with number one
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records that year include the Beatles
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The Supremes The Temptations The Beach
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Boys the birds with Mr Tambourine Man a
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Bob Dylan song and the Rolling Stones by
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the summer of 65 Dylan's electrified
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Like a Rolling Stone is on the radio
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everywhere many in the folk scene view
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this electric music as a threat to or
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even a Corruption of the authentic
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American Music they embrace
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the Newport Folk Festival had been a
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showcase for traditional folk and blues
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since its founding in 1959 and Bob Dylan
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is slated to be the headliner of Newport
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1965.
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Joe Boyd is the production manager of
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the festival and attends a meeting where
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board member Peter Yarrow makes a
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last-minute appeal to make room on the
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schedule for one more Act
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at this meeting Peter Yarrow got up on
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his soapbox and he made a speech about
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the Butterfield band that this is what's
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happening right now this is the most
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important band in America today
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and yarrow's argument was that with Sam
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and Jerome that this was the Revival
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meeting the authentic
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this is where the Folk Festival has to
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be in order to be relevant this is the
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summer of 1965. we can't live forever in
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the past this is no longer The Province
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just of the folkies
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oh
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laughs
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[Applause]
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[Music]
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so out on stage on this little flat
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platform comes Paul Butterfield on
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harmonica of course the amazing Michael
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Bloomfield on guitar Elven Bishop sort
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of undergirding everything with Just
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Killer rhythm guitar Sam Leon drums and
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Jerome Arnold on bass they just blew our
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little folky Minds right right off the
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charts there's photos somewhere of us
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experiencing and reacting to this really
572
00:26:27,995 --> 00:26:31,594
raw really vital Chicago blues sound
573
00:26:31,594 --> 00:26:34,895
just full of power and energy and we
574
00:26:34,895 --> 00:26:37,734
just loved it
575
00:26:40,614 --> 00:26:43,234
I'm probably eight feet away from
576
00:26:43,234 --> 00:26:45,695
Butterfield's Fender amplifier
577
00:26:45,695 --> 00:26:49,435
and he starts in a mellow Down Easy
578
00:26:49,435 --> 00:26:51,815
and I'm like the guy from the Maxell
579
00:26:51,815 --> 00:26:53,435
commercial because I'm in front of
580
00:26:53,435 --> 00:26:55,655
Butters amp and my scarf is like this
581
00:26:55,655 --> 00:26:58,114
and I go oh look at that you know and
582
00:26:58,114 --> 00:27:00,515
and we went electric the next day our
583
00:27:00,515 --> 00:27:03,295
jug bands
584
00:27:03,395 --> 00:27:05,214
everybody
585
00:27:05,214 --> 00:27:08,974
in that time in the 60s anyone who was
586
00:27:08,974 --> 00:27:11,495
at a Folk Festival already was for
587
00:27:11,495 --> 00:27:13,895
integration and him playing in that
588
00:27:13,895 --> 00:27:16,234
integrated band was a statement that
589
00:27:16,234 --> 00:27:17,974
we're all in this together and we all
590
00:27:17,974 --> 00:27:19,714
love this music and we're all going to
591
00:27:19,714 --> 00:27:21,995
hang out together and we're getting rid
592
00:27:21,995 --> 00:27:24,755
of segregation and you just better get
593
00:27:24,755 --> 00:27:25,475
used to it
594
00:27:25,475 --> 00:27:31,295
[Music]
595
00:27:31,295 --> 00:27:35,075
wait wait time the first time I saw Paul
596
00:27:35,075 --> 00:27:38,695
was at Newport 1965 at the workshop
597
00:27:38,695 --> 00:27:42,995
where Alan Lomax introduced the band in
598
00:27:42,995 --> 00:27:45,935
some very demeaning way and I know Lomax
599
00:27:45,935 --> 00:27:47,795
was already muttering and grumbling
600
00:27:47,795 --> 00:27:49,834
about that because he he wasn't very
601
00:27:49,834 --> 00:27:51,755
positive about them and he had you know
602
00:27:51,755 --> 00:27:55,535
Robert Pete Williams and Sun house and a
603
00:27:55,535 --> 00:27:59,214
really great lineup of acoustic black
604
00:27:59,214 --> 00:28:03,695
blues musicians and he did not
605
00:28:03,695 --> 00:28:09,935
like the idea a of drums at Newport
606
00:28:09,935 --> 00:28:13,234
and B of white people playing blues
607
00:28:13,234 --> 00:28:14,435
music
608
00:28:14,435 --> 00:28:16,594
and finally he says okay you've seen the
609
00:28:16,594 --> 00:28:18,455
real thing
610
00:28:18,455 --> 00:28:20,495
now here's some kids from Chicago going
611
00:28:20,495 --> 00:28:22,535
to come and try
612
00:28:22,535 --> 00:28:24,875
to play the blues
613
00:28:24,875 --> 00:28:28,354
with the help of these amplifiers all
614
00:28:28,354 --> 00:28:30,575
the select all these electric amplifiers
615
00:28:30,575 --> 00:28:34,295
at which point Grossman
616
00:28:34,295 --> 00:28:38,375
is so pissed off he jumps on Alan Lomax
617
00:28:38,375 --> 00:28:40,775
and these two
618
00:28:40,775 --> 00:28:42,334
like
619
00:28:42,334 --> 00:28:45,214
panda bears and personality but grizzly
620
00:28:45,214 --> 00:28:47,795
bears and physique start rolling in the
621
00:28:47,795 --> 00:28:50,675
dirt Together full fisticuffs well the
622
00:28:50,675 --> 00:28:52,594
band was playing throwing roundhouse
623
00:28:52,594 --> 00:28:54,695
punches at each other and then they were
624
00:28:54,695 --> 00:28:56,255
wrestling each other and then they were
625
00:28:56,255 --> 00:28:57,815
rolling around in the dirt
626
00:28:57,815 --> 00:29:00,635
and you know it was lamentable and it
627
00:29:00,635 --> 00:29:04,415
was funny dust flying and these two you
628
00:29:04,415 --> 00:29:05,395
know
629
00:29:05,395 --> 00:29:08,075
Bears or
630
00:29:08,075 --> 00:29:10,895
scuffling and that that really felt good
631
00:29:10,895 --> 00:29:12,995
because that's what a manager ought to
632
00:29:12,995 --> 00:29:14,565
do
633
00:29:14,565 --> 00:29:17,214
[Music]
634
00:29:17,214 --> 00:29:19,234
in the middle of all of this of course
635
00:29:19,234 --> 00:29:20,915
was the fact that we've been told by
636
00:29:20,915 --> 00:29:24,155
Grossman that morning
637
00:29:24,155 --> 00:29:26,435
that Dylan was going to play with the
638
00:29:26,435 --> 00:29:28,954
Butterfield Rhythm Section Sam Jerome
639
00:29:28,954 --> 00:29:30,755
and Bloomfield
640
00:29:30,755 --> 00:29:34,175
and Goldberg and Cooper Saturday night
641
00:29:34,175 --> 00:29:36,214
we rehearsed all night
642
00:29:36,214 --> 00:29:39,155
could only get three songs in that time
643
00:29:39,155 --> 00:29:41,974
period And So the plan was that we were
644
00:29:41,974 --> 00:29:43,834
going to go up and play the three songs
645
00:29:43,834 --> 00:29:47,094
because that's all we knew
646
00:29:47,495 --> 00:29:55,594
[Music]
647
00:29:55,594 --> 00:29:57,575
it was a mixed reaction from the
648
00:29:57,575 --> 00:29:59,915
audience and a lot of people said they
649
00:29:59,915 --> 00:30:02,315
were Woos you know but there were also
650
00:30:02,315 --> 00:30:03,995
chairs too there were people that did
651
00:30:03,995 --> 00:30:06,275
get it but most of the booze came from
652
00:30:06,275 --> 00:30:08,915
the uh the folkies you know who felt
653
00:30:08,915 --> 00:30:10,954
betrayed you know that Bob had betrayed
654
00:30:10,954 --> 00:30:13,594
them and and they sort of had a sense
655
00:30:13,594 --> 00:30:15,214
that their movement that the folk
656
00:30:15,214 --> 00:30:18,214
movement was on its way out as well
657
00:30:18,214 --> 00:30:20,495
the funny thing is that he wasn't booed
658
00:30:20,495 --> 00:30:22,954
off stage that was the ridiculous part
659
00:30:22,954 --> 00:30:25,175
of it there was maybe two rows of people
660
00:30:25,175 --> 00:30:28,175
in this entire concert which is packed
661
00:30:28,175 --> 00:30:29,854
that were booing because they didn't
662
00:30:29,854 --> 00:30:31,775
want to hear him do electric music they
663
00:30:31,775 --> 00:30:33,155
want to hear him do nothing but folk
664
00:30:33,155 --> 00:30:34,114
music
665
00:30:34,114 --> 00:30:37,354
this whole purist thing that was going
666
00:30:37,354 --> 00:30:39,875
on at that time I mean you know nobody
667
00:30:39,875 --> 00:30:42,515
got upset when Muddy Waters plugged in
668
00:30:42,515 --> 00:30:45,875
his guitar it's just a false barrier
669
00:30:45,875 --> 00:30:48,815
that people who think they know about
670
00:30:48,815 --> 00:30:51,214
this stuff feel they have to pontificate
671
00:30:51,214 --> 00:30:55,234
about it was the Natural Evolution of of
672
00:30:55,234 --> 00:30:58,055
of of of the earlier blues and it was
673
00:30:58,055 --> 00:31:02,515
absolutely as valid as anything else
674
00:31:05,675 --> 00:31:08,495
the Butterfield Band came up to play the
675
00:31:08,495 --> 00:31:11,555
club 47 right after Newport and at that
676
00:31:11,555 --> 00:31:15,035
time we charged a dollar at the door you
677
00:31:15,035 --> 00:31:17,974
could squeeze 110 20 people into that
678
00:31:17,974 --> 00:31:18,815
place
679
00:31:18,815 --> 00:31:20,795
people like Tom Rush are the quest can
680
00:31:20,795 --> 00:31:22,474
Joke Man to those people they would fill
681
00:31:22,474 --> 00:31:26,315
that place and they would get 75 so I
682
00:31:26,315 --> 00:31:28,714
think we were going to pay Paul's band a
683
00:31:28,714 --> 00:31:30,815
hundred dollars a night three hundred
684
00:31:30,815 --> 00:31:33,035
dollars for three nights this was Mike
685
00:31:33,035 --> 00:31:36,415
Bloomfield Elvin Bishop the whole band
686
00:31:36,415 --> 00:31:38,315
went down
687
00:31:38,315 --> 00:31:42,815
21 years later of course the volume was
688
00:31:42,815 --> 00:31:44,974
pretty loud not by maybe today's
689
00:31:44,974 --> 00:31:47,675
standards but by that time standard the
690
00:31:47,675 --> 00:31:50,795
Butterfield band had a lot of punch
691
00:31:50,795 --> 00:31:54,094
this band was hitting on all cylinders
692
00:31:54,094 --> 00:31:57,454
and we'd never had anything like it in
693
00:31:57,454 --> 00:32:00,155
that room I was a manager and I had a
694
00:32:00,155 --> 00:32:01,834
little tiny office
695
00:32:01,834 --> 00:32:04,535
and he'd come back into my office and we
696
00:32:04,535 --> 00:32:07,714
had an absolute policy and it was a real
697
00:32:07,714 --> 00:32:10,895
policy too no smoking of dope in this
698
00:32:10,895 --> 00:32:12,875
place can't have it there's no alcohol
699
00:32:12,875 --> 00:32:15,334
there was no dope he'd want to have a
700
00:32:15,334 --> 00:32:16,714
drink you could go across the street
701
00:32:16,714 --> 00:32:19,295
there was a bar and we just couldn't
702
00:32:19,295 --> 00:32:22,055
have it because if we if we get closed
703
00:32:22,055 --> 00:32:22,854
down
704
00:32:22,854 --> 00:32:25,775
we just couldn't have it Paul come back
705
00:32:25,775 --> 00:32:27,515
into my office and he closed the door
706
00:32:27,515 --> 00:32:30,454
and said hey man I just I just have to
707
00:32:30,454 --> 00:32:32,675
have something before I go on I said no
708
00:32:32,675 --> 00:32:35,915
Paul we can't do it he was just like a
709
00:32:35,915 --> 00:32:37,954
cat that wouldn't let you go you know
710
00:32:37,954 --> 00:32:39,935
just whining and
711
00:32:39,935 --> 00:32:42,695
at you you know and I finally caved in
712
00:32:42,695 --> 00:32:45,275
you know I okay a couple of Puffs that's
713
00:32:45,275 --> 00:32:46,705
it
714
00:32:46,705 --> 00:32:54,355
[Music]
715
00:32:54,895 --> 00:32:58,474
I played a night with them at the cafe
716
00:32:58,474 --> 00:32:59,734
Gogo
717
00:32:59,734 --> 00:33:02,135
on the sidelines as I used to do at the
718
00:33:02,135 --> 00:33:04,655
twist parties gazing at the kneecaps of
719
00:33:04,655 --> 00:33:06,995
the band or lower
720
00:33:06,995 --> 00:33:09,755
and then not long after that I went to
721
00:33:09,755 --> 00:33:12,695
this session and then Paul inducted me
722
00:33:12,695 --> 00:33:13,735
into the band
723
00:33:13,735 --> 00:33:33,635
[Music]
724
00:33:33,635 --> 00:33:35,675
it was after that first record Albert
725
00:33:35,675 --> 00:33:37,415
Grossman came and gave us each a
726
00:33:37,415 --> 00:33:39,655
thousand dollar bill
727
00:33:39,655 --> 00:33:42,114
tremendously impressive
728
00:33:42,114 --> 00:33:45,214
Paul's band that first album that really
729
00:33:45,214 --> 00:33:47,734
took off that opened the market up a lot
730
00:33:47,734 --> 00:33:50,195
to a lot of young white kids who hadn't
731
00:33:50,195 --> 00:33:52,474
really heard the blues because once you
732
00:33:52,474 --> 00:33:54,995
heard Paul you wanted to hear the other
733
00:33:54,995 --> 00:33:57,155
guys muddy and wolf and you got easily
734
00:33:57,155 --> 00:33:59,015
pulled into it
735
00:33:59,015 --> 00:34:02,015
foreign
736
00:34:03,675 --> 00:34:07,645
[Music]
737
00:34:07,645 --> 00:34:09,975
[Laughter]
738
00:34:09,975 --> 00:34:13,074
[Music]
739
00:34:14,635 --> 00:34:18,394
came from a wealthy family and one of
740
00:34:18,394 --> 00:34:20,674
his uncles had a pawn shop and I used to
741
00:34:20,674 --> 00:34:23,795
not have any money so I'd get my guitar
742
00:34:23,795 --> 00:34:25,535
as cheap as I could I go to the pawn
743
00:34:25,535 --> 00:34:26,255
shop
744
00:34:26,255 --> 00:34:28,295
and I went to one on Clark Street one
745
00:34:28,295 --> 00:34:30,515
time and it was kind of smart ass
746
00:34:30,515 --> 00:34:32,255
looking kid behind the counter you know
747
00:34:32,255 --> 00:34:34,355
and I said can I see that guitar
748
00:34:34,355 --> 00:34:36,755
he hands to me and I start playing My
749
00:34:36,755 --> 00:34:38,375
Little Blues Licks a few of them you
750
00:34:38,375 --> 00:34:40,654
know he said you like Blues
751
00:34:40,654 --> 00:34:43,174
I said yeah he said give me that thing
752
00:34:43,174 --> 00:34:45,154
he starts playing rings around the world
753
00:34:45,154 --> 00:34:46,954
you know he's playing all these fancy
754
00:34:46,954 --> 00:34:48,875
licks and stuff I said oh wow that's
755
00:34:48,875 --> 00:34:51,335
great you know he'd get in your face and
756
00:34:51,335 --> 00:34:52,894
he'd just be spitting on you while he
757
00:34:52,894 --> 00:34:54,575
was talking and stuff you know he's he
758
00:34:54,575 --> 00:34:56,575
he was just uh
759
00:34:56,575 --> 00:35:00,095
tremendously active mind and uh
760
00:35:00,095 --> 00:35:02,434
really intense about everything he did
761
00:35:02,434 --> 00:35:04,894
not just the plan everything
762
00:35:04,894 --> 00:35:07,475
Michael was always intimidated by Paul
763
00:35:07,475 --> 00:35:10,235
his personality was so strong and you
764
00:35:10,235 --> 00:35:12,154
really couldn't get you know underneath
765
00:35:12,154 --> 00:35:14,075
Paul and get to know him well you know
766
00:35:14,075 --> 00:35:15,995
he really didn't let people in that much
767
00:35:15,995 --> 00:35:19,055
just his presence alone was a tough guy
768
00:35:19,055 --> 00:35:21,634
black leather jacket a Beer Drinker he
769
00:35:21,634 --> 00:35:24,095
was a complete man or the real deal
770
00:35:24,095 --> 00:35:25,894
see I had never worked with Paul for a
771
00:35:25,894 --> 00:35:27,634
long time because I never figured we'd
772
00:35:27,634 --> 00:35:29,674
get along personality wise you know
773
00:35:29,674 --> 00:35:31,475
because Paul is a very very hard guy
774
00:35:31,475 --> 00:35:35,075
period just a hard individual he's very
775
00:35:35,075 --> 00:35:36,634
rock hard inside his body and everything
776
00:35:36,634 --> 00:35:39,935
he has completely taken that harmonica
777
00:35:39,935 --> 00:35:42,695
and reworked it in my opinion
778
00:35:42,695 --> 00:35:45,455
Butterfield is the finest the finest
779
00:35:45,455 --> 00:35:47,615
blues harmonica player in the world and
780
00:35:47,615 --> 00:35:48,935
this is the first gig I've ever worked
781
00:35:48,935 --> 00:35:51,154
with Paul and I tell you man you hear
782
00:35:51,154 --> 00:35:52,955
this band after this two-month tour
783
00:35:52,955 --> 00:35:54,935
there won't be a blues band in the
784
00:35:54,935 --> 00:35:56,015
history of the world that's going to
785
00:35:56,015 --> 00:35:58,674
come near this band
786
00:36:00,894 --> 00:36:05,154
I met Bloomfield on Highway 61 sessions
787
00:36:05,154 --> 00:36:09,935
for uh Dylan and he told me as we got
788
00:36:09,935 --> 00:36:13,235
friendly that he was in Paul's band and
789
00:36:13,235 --> 00:36:15,755
that was one of the reasons why he
790
00:36:15,755 --> 00:36:18,154
didn't want a tour with Dylan so he
791
00:36:18,154 --> 00:36:21,095
could stay in Paul's band he said you
792
00:36:21,095 --> 00:36:23,315
make all kinds of money and you know
793
00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:27,875
being cover of Newsweek he said but I
794
00:36:27,875 --> 00:36:30,394
just want to play the blues
795
00:36:30,394 --> 00:36:32,435
says and I'm having a great time doing
796
00:36:32,435 --> 00:36:34,115
it in this band
797
00:36:34,115 --> 00:36:36,335
you turned down Bob Dylan to play with
798
00:36:36,335 --> 00:36:38,255
Butterfield it's about as good as you
799
00:36:38,255 --> 00:36:40,555
can get
800
00:36:48,095 --> 00:36:50,914
Paul would appear in New York City
801
00:36:50,914 --> 00:36:54,095
usually at a club called Cafe a go go we
802
00:36:54,095 --> 00:36:55,475
would always get there early and we
803
00:36:55,475 --> 00:36:57,275
would sit like right in the front row
804
00:36:57,275 --> 00:36:59,555
and we'd do that night after night show
805
00:36:59,555 --> 00:37:02,735
after show we just played you know that
806
00:37:02,735 --> 00:37:04,775
was it I think that that's probably when
807
00:37:04,775 --> 00:37:06,575
he was complete you know is when he was
808
00:37:06,575 --> 00:37:09,275
up there eyes closed
809
00:37:09,275 --> 00:37:12,654
flow on that perfect note
810
00:37:13,695 --> 00:37:18,755
[Music]
811
00:37:18,755 --> 00:37:20,795
and there's that Soul there that is
812
00:37:20,795 --> 00:37:22,115
pouring out of everything everything
813
00:37:22,115 --> 00:37:24,695
that Paul did it's not about how good or
814
00:37:24,695 --> 00:37:26,615
how not good or technique or this the
815
00:37:26,615 --> 00:37:28,414
thing that to me makes Paul different is
816
00:37:28,414 --> 00:37:30,995
there's always this edge of Soul that's
817
00:37:30,995 --> 00:37:32,495
always happening no matter whether he's
818
00:37:32,495 --> 00:37:34,295
singing or playing
819
00:37:34,295 --> 00:37:36,035
and another thing you know Paul played
820
00:37:36,035 --> 00:37:37,535
the harmonica upside down a lot of
821
00:37:37,535 --> 00:37:39,394
people didn't know that you know where
822
00:37:39,394 --> 00:37:40,775
instead of the low notes on the left
823
00:37:40,775 --> 00:37:42,095
they were on the right
824
00:37:42,095 --> 00:37:45,455
Paul did it different that band was the
825
00:37:45,455 --> 00:37:47,775
most powerful band I've ever heard
826
00:37:47,775 --> 00:37:50,435
[Music]
827
00:37:50,435 --> 00:37:52,235
I played another extended engagement it
828
00:37:52,235 --> 00:37:54,095
was in a place called The Unicorn and
829
00:37:54,095 --> 00:37:55,595
this was in Boston
830
00:37:55,595 --> 00:37:57,335
Sam got sick
831
00:37:57,335 --> 00:37:59,735
and that's when you got Billy Davenport
832
00:37:59,735 --> 00:38:03,215
and he was quite logically as a black
833
00:38:03,215 --> 00:38:05,255
man concerned about what he was going to
834
00:38:05,255 --> 00:38:08,735
confront as he traveled America and he
835
00:38:08,735 --> 00:38:10,055
told me
836
00:38:10,055 --> 00:38:12,515
that Paul said to him
837
00:38:12,515 --> 00:38:15,515
for you can't go we won't go
838
00:38:15,515 --> 00:38:17,735
but he was proud of it and he it meant
839
00:38:17,735 --> 00:38:19,174
something to him that he got that
840
00:38:19,174 --> 00:38:21,275
guarantee and it says something about
841
00:38:21,275 --> 00:38:23,075
Paul
842
00:38:23,075 --> 00:38:28,894
[Music]
843
00:38:28,894 --> 00:38:31,055
there was a climate in the band a
844
00:38:31,055 --> 00:38:33,095
musical climate that was now opening up
845
00:38:33,095 --> 00:38:35,195
musicians were taking on some of the
846
00:38:35,195 --> 00:38:36,995
attributes of jazz musicians and play
847
00:38:36,995 --> 00:38:40,015
more extended things and experimenting
848
00:38:40,015 --> 00:38:48,504
[Music]
849
00:38:50,875 --> 00:38:54,755
in 1966 America is a cauldron of social
850
00:38:54,755 --> 00:38:56,914
and political change fueled in large
851
00:38:56,914 --> 00:38:59,495
part by the music of the times the
852
00:38:59,495 --> 00:39:01,235
Butterfield Blues band's sprawling
853
00:39:01,235 --> 00:39:03,935
tapestry of an LP called East West with
854
00:39:03,935 --> 00:39:05,795
its combination of Electric Blues and
855
00:39:05,795 --> 00:39:08,075
psychedelic Rock puts the band at the
856
00:39:08,075 --> 00:39:10,595
Forefront of the music scene clocking in
857
00:39:10,595 --> 00:39:13,295
at a nearly unprecedented 13 minutes the
858
00:39:13,295 --> 00:39:14,875
title track is a pioneering
859
00:39:14,875 --> 00:39:17,674
cross-cultural Opus near mythical
860
00:39:17,674 --> 00:39:19,414
accounts of live performances of
861
00:39:19,414 --> 00:39:21,575
East-West lasting over 40 minutes and
862
00:39:21,575 --> 00:39:24,095
leaving fans transfixed reverberate
863
00:39:24,095 --> 00:39:26,134
throughout the international rock music
864
00:39:26,134 --> 00:39:28,615
community
865
00:39:30,215 --> 00:39:33,095
they started doing East-West and and
866
00:39:33,095 --> 00:39:35,255
messing with different modes to play and
867
00:39:35,255 --> 00:39:37,414
so that it sounds more Middle Eastern or
868
00:39:37,414 --> 00:39:38,975
something like that you know the fact
869
00:39:38,975 --> 00:39:41,015
that he wasn't satisfied just to be one
870
00:39:41,015 --> 00:39:42,634
of the world's best blues hard players
871
00:39:42,634 --> 00:39:45,095
you know he didn't lock himself in a box
872
00:39:45,095 --> 00:39:48,065
he just kept taking it further
873
00:39:48,065 --> 00:39:55,115
[Music]
874
00:39:55,115 --> 00:39:57,335
Bloomfield used to do a fire eating
875
00:39:57,335 --> 00:39:59,375
routine he'd do that he'd get one of
876
00:39:59,375 --> 00:40:00,755
these things like uh
877
00:40:00,755 --> 00:40:02,735
looks like the Mallet you play The
878
00:40:02,735 --> 00:40:04,955
Kettle drum with you know they squirt
879
00:40:04,955 --> 00:40:07,295
lighter fluid on it light it up spread
880
00:40:07,295 --> 00:40:08,855
his legs out and that Groove would be
881
00:40:08,855 --> 00:40:11,195
going you know behind him and he'd lean
882
00:40:11,195 --> 00:40:13,654
way back and eat fire and those old
883
00:40:13,654 --> 00:40:15,455
Stoned Out hippies would just lose their
884
00:40:15,455 --> 00:40:17,915
minds
885
00:40:17,915 --> 00:40:29,555
[Music]
886
00:40:29,555 --> 00:40:31,894
so here we are in Chicago at the Museum
887
00:40:31,894 --> 00:40:34,055
of Science and Industry
888
00:40:34,055 --> 00:40:37,535
this is the photo shot of my father's
889
00:40:37,535 --> 00:40:41,855
iconic album this is the cover of the
890
00:40:41,855 --> 00:40:45,095
second album East West you had Jerome
891
00:40:45,095 --> 00:40:48,515
Arnold Elvin Bishop Mark naphtalin Billy
892
00:40:48,515 --> 00:40:51,755
Davenport Michael Bloomfield and Paul
893
00:40:51,755 --> 00:40:52,955
Butterfield
894
00:40:52,955 --> 00:40:55,595
this is a museum this is a really really
895
00:40:55,595 --> 00:40:58,595
odd place for a cover of a blues album
896
00:40:58,595 --> 00:41:01,835
Maybe the fact that they actually got up
897
00:41:01,835 --> 00:41:05,615
here and took these photos here uh is
898
00:41:05,615 --> 00:41:07,894
expressing that band as someone who
899
00:41:07,894 --> 00:41:10,414
means business and saying hey baby we're
900
00:41:10,414 --> 00:41:12,275
not what you think we are
901
00:41:12,275 --> 00:41:15,455
oh I mean the authenticity was just
902
00:41:15,455 --> 00:41:17,435
astonishing and playing through that
903
00:41:17,435 --> 00:41:19,955
amplifier and the tonality and the
904
00:41:19,955 --> 00:41:21,695
choices that he made were so
905
00:41:21,695 --> 00:41:23,674
unconventional and so you know
906
00:41:23,674 --> 00:41:26,435
Innovative I think that Paul was an
907
00:41:26,435 --> 00:41:28,235
incredible creative spirit and always
908
00:41:28,235 --> 00:41:30,035
kept stretching you know I mean as deep
909
00:41:30,035 --> 00:41:31,775
as he would go into the roots he was
910
00:41:31,775 --> 00:41:33,815
always pushing the envelope of what
911
00:41:33,815 --> 00:41:36,154
Blues could be greater Ranger put
912
00:41:36,154 --> 00:41:38,255
together an incredible band those guys
913
00:41:38,255 --> 00:41:39,755
wouldn't play with him if he wasn't that
914
00:41:39,755 --> 00:41:40,715
badass
915
00:41:40,715 --> 00:41:42,515
I had lots and lots of Hard players
916
00:41:42,515 --> 00:41:44,914
sitting with me and nobody could blow
917
00:41:44,914 --> 00:41:47,555
like butter and I loved his singing as
918
00:41:47,555 --> 00:41:49,235
much as I loved his heart plan
919
00:41:49,235 --> 00:41:51,995
you know he's cute too as us girls like
920
00:41:51,995 --> 00:41:53,495
to call him
921
00:41:53,495 --> 00:41:56,134
Butterfield was very funny and had a
922
00:41:56,134 --> 00:41:58,174
very dry sense of humor and it kind of
923
00:41:58,174 --> 00:42:00,575
was smart ass wise-ass sense of humor
924
00:42:00,575 --> 00:42:03,515
too I remember remarking on Sam Lay's
925
00:42:03,515 --> 00:42:06,394
shoes which were kind of metallic and
926
00:42:06,394 --> 00:42:08,674
they were kind of like had little glass
927
00:42:08,674 --> 00:42:10,894
crystals in the shoes and Paul said
928
00:42:10,894 --> 00:42:13,355
don't get too close to him he uses those
929
00:42:13,355 --> 00:42:15,755
to just put his his foot and look up
930
00:42:15,755 --> 00:42:18,295
your skirt
931
00:42:18,295 --> 00:42:20,914
and I don't know if it was true but I
932
00:42:20,914 --> 00:42:24,815
believed Paul at the time oh
933
00:42:24,815 --> 00:42:27,095
oh butter could be a little bit of a
934
00:42:27,095 --> 00:42:29,435
dirty dog from time to time and
935
00:42:29,435 --> 00:42:31,235
Rothschild had some kind of legal
936
00:42:31,235 --> 00:42:33,515
troubles involving uh weed which is
937
00:42:33,515 --> 00:42:35,615
pretty serious in those days you know
938
00:42:35,615 --> 00:42:38,075
and we're doing a session in New York
939
00:42:38,075 --> 00:42:38,914
City
940
00:42:38,914 --> 00:42:40,835
and everybody took off for lunch and
941
00:42:40,835 --> 00:42:42,095
went out to get something to eat and
942
00:42:42,095 --> 00:42:43,414
Rothschild stayed there and he was
943
00:42:43,414 --> 00:42:45,695
fooling with the tapes you know and the
944
00:42:45,695 --> 00:42:47,435
faders and he was at the console and
945
00:42:47,435 --> 00:42:49,295
everything drinking a milkshake
946
00:42:49,295 --> 00:42:51,275
and Butterfield came back and knocked
947
00:42:51,275 --> 00:42:54,035
real loud on the doors at police
948
00:42:54,035 --> 00:42:56,615
a Rothschild freaked out and Spilled his
949
00:42:56,615 --> 00:42:59,905
milkshake in the console
950
00:42:59,905 --> 00:43:03,085
[Music]
951
00:43:04,075 --> 00:43:06,995
I will say I'm very proud
952
00:43:06,995 --> 00:43:09,815
as the owner of the famous
953
00:43:09,815 --> 00:43:11,495
Golden Bear
954
00:43:11,495 --> 00:43:15,035
woke up this morning I looked round for
955
00:43:15,035 --> 00:43:16,115
my shoes
956
00:43:16,115 --> 00:43:20,075
in August of 1966 I booked them only for
957
00:43:20,075 --> 00:43:24,035
one week but they stayed for two and I
958
00:43:24,035 --> 00:43:25,894
enjoy it very much
959
00:43:25,894 --> 00:43:30,215
that was 20 Souls 350 people
960
00:43:30,215 --> 00:43:34,595
and still the place was parked this is
961
00:43:34,595 --> 00:43:37,654
unbelievable George yeah he was cool
962
00:43:37,654 --> 00:43:40,894
George a Greek guy I used to go fishing
963
00:43:40,894 --> 00:43:43,174
at that Pier across the street from the
964
00:43:43,174 --> 00:43:45,995
Golden Bear and bring it back and George
965
00:43:45,995 --> 00:43:48,575
would cook it in the pizza oven you know
966
00:43:48,575 --> 00:43:51,995
we fought by their feet I had
967
00:43:51,995 --> 00:43:54,755
the perfect opening up
968
00:43:54,755 --> 00:43:59,755
the comedian Steve Martin
969
00:44:00,415 --> 00:44:05,075
[Music]
970
00:44:05,075 --> 00:44:09,394
so I went to day with my
971
00:44:09,394 --> 00:44:11,615
one of my college roommates we were
972
00:44:11,615 --> 00:44:13,115
going up the stairs to their apartment
973
00:44:13,115 --> 00:44:15,154
and Paul was coming down the stairs with
974
00:44:15,154 --> 00:44:17,075
a laundry basket
975
00:44:17,075 --> 00:44:19,955
and we sort of met on the staircase and
976
00:44:19,955 --> 00:44:21,455
then sort of moved back down to the
977
00:44:21,455 --> 00:44:23,615
sidewalk and we just started talking and
978
00:44:23,615 --> 00:44:26,555
talking and talking and talking and he
979
00:44:26,555 --> 00:44:29,555
had a new album he wanted me to hear and
980
00:44:29,555 --> 00:44:32,315
so he went and put it on and it was the
981
00:44:32,315 --> 00:44:34,355
Beatles well he kept playing me the song
982
00:44:34,355 --> 00:44:37,174
called got to get you into my life
983
00:44:37,174 --> 00:44:40,654
sorry it was a hint
984
00:44:40,654 --> 00:44:44,134
I just had turned 21. he was only 23.
985
00:44:44,134 --> 00:44:45,995
because I was on the road with them for
986
00:44:45,995 --> 00:44:48,394
probably three years like
987
00:44:48,394 --> 00:44:49,775
people would say how long is your tour
988
00:44:49,775 --> 00:44:52,295
and I go I don't know it's been going on
989
00:44:52,295 --> 00:44:55,595
for 340 days I mean we used to look at a
990
00:44:55,595 --> 00:44:58,174
match box in the drawer of the hotel to
991
00:44:58,174 --> 00:45:00,154
see where we were
992
00:45:00,154 --> 00:45:02,855
it was like going from box to box to box
993
00:45:02,855 --> 00:45:04,475
you're in an airplane you're in a car
994
00:45:04,475 --> 00:45:05,914
you're in a hotel you're at the gig
995
00:45:05,914 --> 00:45:07,595
you're at the hotel you're in a car
996
00:45:07,595 --> 00:45:09,154
you're in an airplane you're in a train
997
00:45:09,154 --> 00:45:12,154
you're just living in a box in a box in
998
00:45:12,154 --> 00:45:13,835
a box in a box in a box and you're just
999
00:45:13,835 --> 00:45:15,275
so disorienting you don't even know
1000
00:45:15,275 --> 00:45:17,015
where you are and these guys are just
1001
00:45:17,015 --> 00:45:19,595
working working hard every single day
1002
00:45:19,595 --> 00:45:22,595
foreign
1003
00:45:24,335 --> 00:45:26,735
Kathy and Paul and the band spent all of
1004
00:45:26,735 --> 00:45:29,555
1966 on the road playing at colleges
1005
00:45:29,555 --> 00:45:32,674
clubs and concert Halls the band has a
1006
00:45:32,674 --> 00:45:34,654
huge following in San Francisco thanks
1007
00:45:34,654 --> 00:45:36,755
to concert promoter and impresario Bill
1008
00:45:36,755 --> 00:45:38,795
Graham who books them into multiple
1009
00:45:38,795 --> 00:45:40,775
venues during each visit
1010
00:45:40,775 --> 00:45:42,995
and Graham's growing friendships with
1011
00:45:42,995 --> 00:45:44,914
Paul and Michael Bloomfield would bring
1012
00:45:44,914 --> 00:45:48,455
additional benefits when Michael and
1013
00:45:48,455 --> 00:45:51,475
Paul left Chicago went to San Francisco
1014
00:45:51,475 --> 00:45:54,815
they had recommended to Bill Graham to
1015
00:45:54,815 --> 00:45:57,035
get artists like Howling Wolf and muddy
1016
00:45:57,035 --> 00:45:59,914
and Little Walter James Cotton to come
1017
00:45:59,914 --> 00:46:03,515
to California so that even opened a
1018
00:46:03,515 --> 00:46:05,995
greater audience for all these artists
1019
00:46:05,995 --> 00:46:08,374
that gave the blues artists an
1020
00:46:08,374 --> 00:46:10,055
opportunity to play someplace besides
1021
00:46:10,055 --> 00:46:11,615
clubs
1022
00:46:11,615 --> 00:46:15,055
better paying gigs
1023
00:46:19,475 --> 00:46:21,815
Paul was really heartbroken when Michael
1024
00:46:21,815 --> 00:46:23,735
left
1025
00:46:23,735 --> 00:46:25,894
Paul was like no we've got a good thing
1026
00:46:25,894 --> 00:46:28,115
going let's keep up with this you know
1027
00:46:28,115 --> 00:46:30,215
this is really a great combo
1028
00:46:30,215 --> 00:46:31,775
so it was hard
1029
00:46:31,775 --> 00:46:33,815
I got to play more lead
1030
00:46:33,815 --> 00:46:37,055
I liked that and I was I was I'd say
1031
00:46:37,055 --> 00:46:38,795
quite a bit more ready than I would have
1032
00:46:38,795 --> 00:46:43,134
been you know at the beginning
1033
00:46:43,485 --> 00:46:47,425
[Music]
1034
00:46:47,615 --> 00:46:50,275
foreign
1035
00:46:50,415 --> 00:46:59,555
[Music]
1036
00:46:59,555 --> 00:47:02,075
Paul played a great set
1037
00:47:02,075 --> 00:47:03,755
at Monterey
1038
00:47:03,755 --> 00:47:07,535
that was sort of his big debut of hordes
1039
00:47:07,535 --> 00:47:10,414
and he had good horn players
1040
00:47:10,414 --> 00:47:14,075
Gene Dunwoody the tenor player and Keith
1041
00:47:14,075 --> 00:47:17,435
Johnson the trumpet player came in
1042
00:47:17,435 --> 00:47:20,975
and Bugsy mom came in
1043
00:47:20,975 --> 00:47:36,565
[Music]
1044
00:47:36,565 --> 00:47:41,285
[Applause]
1045
00:47:41,285 --> 00:47:44,964
[Music]
1046
00:47:45,115 --> 00:47:49,835
summer of 67 my wife and I and young
1047
00:47:49,835 --> 00:47:53,075
baby went out to San Francisco never
1048
00:47:53,075 --> 00:47:55,295
been west of the Mississippi I run into
1049
00:47:55,295 --> 00:47:57,154
Phillip Wilson my friend a drummer
1050
00:47:57,154 --> 00:47:59,735
totally by accident on the street I go
1051
00:47:59,735 --> 00:48:01,295
Phillip what what are you what are you
1052
00:48:01,295 --> 00:48:03,215
doing here and he said well I just
1053
00:48:03,215 --> 00:48:04,955
joined this band The Butterfield blues
1054
00:48:04,955 --> 00:48:06,634
band he said well we're playing at the
1055
00:48:06,634 --> 00:48:07,475
Fillmore
1056
00:48:07,475 --> 00:48:09,755
so come on now it's right I came down I
1057
00:48:09,755 --> 00:48:11,674
heard the band play met the guys in the
1058
00:48:11,674 --> 00:48:15,095
band went went the next night
1059
00:48:15,095 --> 00:48:17,435
and uh Philip said hey man we're going
1060
00:48:17,435 --> 00:48:18,965
down to La we're going to make a record
1061
00:48:18,965 --> 00:48:27,154
[Music]
1062
00:48:27,154 --> 00:48:30,095
basically hitchhike to Hollywood got to
1063
00:48:30,095 --> 00:48:32,975
the Sandy koufax's Tropicana Hotel you
1064
00:48:32,975 --> 00:48:34,355
know I'm hanging out in the studio and
1065
00:48:34,355 --> 00:48:36,634
Paul says hey man where's your horn I
1066
00:48:36,634 --> 00:48:38,674
said well it's back at the hotel he said
1067
00:48:38,674 --> 00:48:39,935
why don't you go get it and maybe you
1068
00:48:39,935 --> 00:48:42,935
can play a little bit so I'm like holy
1069
00:48:42,935 --> 00:48:44,134
[ __ ]
1070
00:48:44,134 --> 00:48:47,134
I sit in Paul likes the sound of it I
1071
00:48:47,134 --> 00:48:48,245
was in Show Business
1072
00:48:48,245 --> 00:48:55,455
[Music]
1073
00:48:57,855 --> 00:49:07,535
[Music]
1074
00:49:07,535 --> 00:49:09,515
and life people move on
1075
00:49:09,515 --> 00:49:12,335
everybody's band changes that's just
1076
00:49:12,335 --> 00:49:14,674
part of being in a band
1077
00:49:14,674 --> 00:49:16,235
New Life
1078
00:49:16,235 --> 00:49:19,235
it was all Peaceable no hard feelings
1079
00:49:19,235 --> 00:49:21,515
between anybody butter didn't want me to
1080
00:49:21,515 --> 00:49:23,615
leave but I did because
1081
00:49:23,615 --> 00:49:26,975
you play one or two songs you know the
1082
00:49:26,975 --> 00:49:30,995
the Dynamics of band getting along is
1083
00:49:30,995 --> 00:49:33,634
you got to give everybody a little piece
1084
00:49:33,634 --> 00:49:35,855
of the action you know so you get to do
1085
00:49:35,855 --> 00:49:37,654
one or two songs a night that are really
1086
00:49:37,654 --> 00:49:40,295
close to your heart you know
1087
00:49:40,295 --> 00:49:42,335
and then the idea starts working on you
1088
00:49:42,335 --> 00:49:44,435
what if I got to do all songs that are
1089
00:49:44,435 --> 00:49:47,075
real close to my heart you know and it
1090
00:49:47,075 --> 00:49:48,935
works and it works and it works and
1091
00:49:48,935 --> 00:49:51,874
after a while the desire to do that
1092
00:49:51,874 --> 00:49:54,154
overcomes the fear of leaving and there
1093
00:49:54,154 --> 00:49:55,695
you go
1094
00:49:55,695 --> 00:50:08,235
[Music]
1095
00:50:08,235 --> 00:50:09,465
[Applause]
1096
00:50:09,465 --> 00:50:13,635
[Music]
1097
00:50:18,575 --> 00:50:21,575
foreign
1098
00:50:21,645 --> 00:50:23,785
[Applause]
1099
00:50:23,785 --> 00:50:50,065
[Music]
1100
00:50:50,374 --> 00:50:53,374
the sound was ferocious
1101
00:50:53,374 --> 00:50:55,595
I mean I I have
1102
00:50:55,595 --> 00:50:58,535
never before or after
1103
00:50:58,535 --> 00:51:02,134
sound like that ever he was a force of
1104
00:51:02,134 --> 00:51:04,775
nature on that instrument everybody else
1105
00:51:04,775 --> 00:51:06,995
sounded just kind of timid it's almost
1106
00:51:06,995 --> 00:51:10,955
like a snarl he had he just went for it
1107
00:51:10,955 --> 00:51:14,015
you know and I think that was
1108
00:51:14,015 --> 00:51:17,975
really inspiring to me as a player it
1109
00:51:17,975 --> 00:51:21,095
was my introduction to the idea that
1110
00:51:21,095 --> 00:51:23,075
it's better to reach for something and
1111
00:51:23,075 --> 00:51:26,315
miss it than just to hold back and play
1112
00:51:26,315 --> 00:51:28,795
it safe
1113
00:51:30,665 --> 00:51:32,855
[Music]
1114
00:51:32,855 --> 00:51:35,134
I am
1115
00:51:35,134 --> 00:51:36,815
Paul Butterfield never played the same
1116
00:51:36,815 --> 00:51:38,735
thing twice nor did the band play the
1117
00:51:38,735 --> 00:51:41,134
same way twice the whole thing about
1118
00:51:41,134 --> 00:51:43,295
playing for the moment is that you could
1119
00:51:43,295 --> 00:51:46,114
do the same song a million times and a
1120
00:51:46,114 --> 00:51:47,495
million times it's going to be different
1121
00:51:47,495 --> 00:51:49,775
because you're not being generic about
1122
00:51:49,775 --> 00:51:52,535
it that's what makes an artist an artist
1123
00:51:52,535 --> 00:51:57,695
he lived breathed ate and spoke music
1124
00:51:57,695 --> 00:51:59,555
I mean English was really his second
1125
00:51:59,555 --> 00:52:02,315
language music was his first language
1126
00:52:02,315 --> 00:52:06,815
and so that's how he communicated with
1127
00:52:06,815 --> 00:52:09,114
the world
1128
00:52:10,595 --> 00:52:13,795
all aboard
1129
00:52:14,995 --> 00:52:16,975
Fathers and Sons
1130
00:52:16,975 --> 00:52:20,374
1969. we decided to do half of it in the
1131
00:52:20,374 --> 00:52:23,495
studio three days of studio and then
1132
00:52:23,495 --> 00:52:26,134
that live concert the concert was great
1133
00:52:26,134 --> 00:52:28,055
it was in this just restored classical
1134
00:52:28,055 --> 00:52:30,995
music hall in Chicago the Chicago
1135
00:52:30,995 --> 00:52:34,355
Auditorium this was a chance to feature
1136
00:52:34,355 --> 00:52:36,154
the great Muddy Waters
1137
00:52:36,154 --> 00:52:38,914
and it was a way to pay them back
1138
00:52:38,914 --> 00:52:41,075
we thought it was our duty
1139
00:52:41,075 --> 00:52:44,914
our job to make sure that we paid back
1140
00:52:44,914 --> 00:52:47,495
what we learned from these guys
1141
00:52:47,495 --> 00:52:49,835
that's what that Fathers and Sons was
1142
00:52:49,835 --> 00:52:52,414
all about being homage to Moody
1143
00:52:52,414 --> 00:52:54,335
saying you're the father we're the sons
1144
00:52:54,335 --> 00:52:57,515
you treated us good dad
1145
00:52:57,515 --> 00:53:01,414
was Paul's mentor and guide and he was
1146
00:53:01,414 --> 00:53:03,394
like a second dad to him
1147
00:53:03,394 --> 00:53:06,874
musically you brought him up
1148
00:53:06,874 --> 00:53:09,275
the concert was great it was rocking and
1149
00:53:09,275 --> 00:53:11,134
jumping it was really that first people
1150
00:53:11,134 --> 00:53:14,195
from Big John's it was all those those
1151
00:53:14,195 --> 00:53:16,114
thousands of people who over the months
1152
00:53:16,114 --> 00:53:18,095
and years had gone to Big John's they
1153
00:53:18,095 --> 00:53:19,955
were at that concert man every single
1154
00:53:19,955 --> 00:53:21,995
one of them was at that concert you know
1155
00:53:21,995 --> 00:53:24,935
the blues guys just loved this influx of
1156
00:53:24,935 --> 00:53:26,855
the White Market buying it the white
1157
00:53:26,855 --> 00:53:30,175
kids playing it the blues was moving on
1158
00:53:30,175 --> 00:53:37,275
[Music]
1159
00:53:38,335 --> 00:53:41,435
everybody's radar was up in that band
1160
00:53:41,435 --> 00:53:43,355
everybody was listening to everybody
1161
00:53:43,355 --> 00:53:44,495
else
1162
00:53:44,495 --> 00:53:46,955
it wasn't planned it was like everyone
1163
00:53:46,955 --> 00:53:49,894
was channeling this creative force and
1164
00:53:49,894 --> 00:53:52,535
Butterfield was the guy you know he was
1165
00:53:52,535 --> 00:53:55,355
the guy that set the tone you know he
1166
00:53:55,355 --> 00:53:57,455
was like we're going for it because
1167
00:53:57,455 --> 00:53:59,555
that's where he came from he came from
1168
00:53:59,555 --> 00:54:01,715
south side of Chicago where it was about
1169
00:54:01,715 --> 00:54:04,475
I'll kick your ass every time he stepped
1170
00:54:04,475 --> 00:54:06,455
up the microphone he played like it was
1171
00:54:06,455 --> 00:54:08,555
the last time he was ever going to play
1172
00:54:08,555 --> 00:54:11,855
he was a real blues guy you know he
1173
00:54:11,855 --> 00:54:13,894
meant it every time come on I mean if
1174
00:54:13,894 --> 00:54:16,595
you listen to his playing it's just pure
1175
00:54:16,595 --> 00:54:18,394
you know you wonder how does a guy get
1176
00:54:18,394 --> 00:54:20,735
that out of a little Marine band
1177
00:54:20,735 --> 00:54:22,535
harmonica you know I mean that's special
1178
00:54:22,535 --> 00:54:23,555
stuff
1179
00:54:23,555 --> 00:54:25,475
the horn parts were put together by just
1180
00:54:25,475 --> 00:54:27,815
sitting down and playing that band got
1181
00:54:27,815 --> 00:54:29,855
to the point when one person played a
1182
00:54:29,855 --> 00:54:31,715
part that was good all the other parts
1183
00:54:31,715 --> 00:54:34,055
fell into place immediately it was kind
1184
00:54:34,055 --> 00:54:36,394
of a magical band who was magical that
1185
00:54:36,394 --> 00:54:38,435
band was one of the first if not the
1186
00:54:38,435 --> 00:54:40,715
first mixed band where it was true
1187
00:54:40,715 --> 00:54:42,695
equality in that band there was no
1188
00:54:42,695 --> 00:54:45,634
racial anything we ended up in
1189
00:54:45,634 --> 00:54:47,555
situations that were in parts of the
1190
00:54:47,555 --> 00:54:48,755
country for instance when we were
1191
00:54:48,755 --> 00:54:51,035
Touring that didn't see it like that you
1192
00:54:51,035 --> 00:54:53,075
know like blacks are not accepted
1193
00:54:53,075 --> 00:54:55,235
everywhere and to see a mixed ban
1194
00:54:55,235 --> 00:54:57,515
especially guys with long hair and
1195
00:54:57,515 --> 00:55:00,095
hanging with black guys we were really a
1196
00:55:00,095 --> 00:55:02,195
threat they looked at us like Communists
1197
00:55:02,195 --> 00:55:04,654
there were some near physical
1198
00:55:04,654 --> 00:55:06,634
confrontations with Butterfield because
1199
00:55:06,634 --> 00:55:08,315
he would get in people's face you know
1200
00:55:08,315 --> 00:55:09,935
they would vibe us or they'd make a
1201
00:55:09,935 --> 00:55:12,695
comment you know like uh [ __ ] and all
1202
00:55:12,695 --> 00:55:14,555
that and he would get right in their
1203
00:55:14,555 --> 00:55:16,235
face and say [ __ ] let's go
1204
00:55:16,235 --> 00:55:18,394
outside right now come on let's go you
1205
00:55:18,394 --> 00:55:20,674
know and so you know we had to kind of
1206
00:55:20,674 --> 00:55:22,894
drag him out of a few places you know
1207
00:55:22,894 --> 00:55:25,055
where where it was like that so he
1208
00:55:25,055 --> 00:55:27,575
really stood up for what he believed in
1209
00:55:27,575 --> 00:55:31,174
he had gifts he had brilliant beautiful
1210
00:55:31,174 --> 00:55:33,815
gifts and and because of those gifts he
1211
00:55:33,815 --> 00:55:36,455
changed the world for many people
1212
00:55:36,455 --> 00:55:39,095
helping to bring that Blues out to the
1213
00:55:39,095 --> 00:55:41,495
rest of the world when the African
1214
00:55:41,495 --> 00:55:43,174
Americans weren't able to do that it
1215
00:55:43,174 --> 00:55:44,855
wasn't a welcoming
1216
00:55:44,855 --> 00:55:46,475
place
1217
00:55:46,475 --> 00:55:48,755
I thought I don't give a damn you played
1218
00:55:48,755 --> 00:55:51,154
right I don't care what color you have a
1219
00:55:51,154 --> 00:55:53,255
pink stripe running down down back if
1220
00:55:53,255 --> 00:55:54,634
you want to yeah
1221
00:55:54,634 --> 00:55:57,815
I am bragging on our on us but I didn't
1222
00:55:57,815 --> 00:56:00,515
see nobody else was better and we
1223
00:56:00,515 --> 00:56:02,415
happened to be black and white
1224
00:56:02,415 --> 00:56:09,634
[Music]
1225
00:56:09,634 --> 00:56:11,614
most people don't realize that Woodstock
1226
00:56:11,614 --> 00:56:13,235
started as an artist colony in about
1227
00:56:13,235 --> 00:56:15,755
1903 and
1228
00:56:15,755 --> 00:56:18,815
um it was established as a utopian arts
1229
00:56:18,815 --> 00:56:20,995
and crafts Community but around the
1230
00:56:20,995 --> 00:56:24,634
1960s is when it kind of came into its
1231
00:56:24,634 --> 00:56:26,975
own before the actual big Woodstock
1232
00:56:26,975 --> 00:56:28,914
festival that everybody knows about
1233
00:56:28,914 --> 00:56:31,475
petiero had a family house here and
1234
00:56:31,475 --> 00:56:33,935
through him Albert Grossman came with
1235
00:56:33,935 --> 00:56:36,935
his stable of artists so of course Peter
1236
00:56:36,935 --> 00:56:39,935
Paul and Mary and later Bob Dylan and
1237
00:56:39,935 --> 00:56:41,674
Paul of course was one of those people
1238
00:56:41,674 --> 00:56:44,435
that came along with Albert
1239
00:56:44,435 --> 00:56:46,535
sometimes it felt like someone just
1240
00:56:46,535 --> 00:56:49,475
dropped some kind of pill and watered it
1241
00:56:49,475 --> 00:56:50,195
and
1242
00:56:50,195 --> 00:56:52,355
you know a different Woodstock popped up
1243
00:56:52,355 --> 00:56:55,174
overnight seemingly you know and it was
1244
00:56:55,174 --> 00:56:57,575
very exciting especially for someone
1245
00:56:57,575 --> 00:57:00,455
like myself who's young and loving music
1246
00:57:00,455 --> 00:57:02,735
and all of a sudden you know there's
1247
00:57:02,735 --> 00:57:04,894
head shops there's leather shops you
1248
00:57:04,894 --> 00:57:06,634
know no more electric stores now it's
1249
00:57:06,634 --> 00:57:09,935
the the leather shop you know the
1250
00:57:09,935 --> 00:57:12,535
Practical kind of went out the window
1251
00:57:12,535 --> 00:57:15,215
and the Magical
1252
00:57:15,215 --> 00:57:16,535
came in
1253
00:57:16,535 --> 00:57:18,394
and one of the people writing that
1254
00:57:18,394 --> 00:57:20,315
artistic and musical way was Paul
1255
00:57:20,315 --> 00:57:22,855
Butterfield
1256
00:57:31,414 --> 00:57:33,634
Paul bought a house up the road from my
1257
00:57:33,634 --> 00:57:35,795
folks at a little Farmhouse and a barn
1258
00:57:35,795 --> 00:57:39,035
Paul was well known as a Blues musician
1259
00:57:39,035 --> 00:57:41,555
but he didn't have any affect about him
1260
00:57:41,555 --> 00:57:43,414
ever he fit in well with the local
1261
00:57:43,414 --> 00:57:46,295
people he was our neighbor
1262
00:57:46,295 --> 00:57:48,394
and it was a true neighbor we had
1263
00:57:48,394 --> 00:57:50,975
barbecues we had them for brunch and
1264
00:57:50,975 --> 00:57:53,435
breakfast we went to his place he was a
1265
00:57:53,435 --> 00:57:54,815
great cook by the way
1266
00:57:54,815 --> 00:57:57,634
he made a barbecue ribs with a mustard
1267
00:57:57,634 --> 00:57:59,374
sauce that was out in his world he told
1268
00:57:59,374 --> 00:58:01,174
me someday he would give me the recipe
1269
00:58:01,174 --> 00:58:02,495
he never did
1270
00:58:02,495 --> 00:58:04,835
I worked at night now when he saw my
1271
00:58:04,835 --> 00:58:06,095
light on
1272
00:58:06,095 --> 00:58:08,735
he would pull in the driveway and I gave
1273
00:58:08,735 --> 00:58:11,195
him the nickname The Moth because of
1274
00:58:11,195 --> 00:58:14,674
that and as a result he would come in we
1275
00:58:14,674 --> 00:58:17,435
had to stand up upright piano at the
1276
00:58:17,435 --> 00:58:19,654
time and he'd start playing right away
1277
00:58:19,654 --> 00:58:21,695
and I'd get some commemorative form his
1278
00:58:21,695 --> 00:58:25,114
favorite tequila and we'd have a little
1279
00:58:25,114 --> 00:58:27,515
midnight not midnight two three o'clock
1280
00:58:27,515 --> 00:58:30,035
in the morning session Paul came in with
1281
00:58:30,035 --> 00:58:32,495
his uh a big horn band with Dave Sanborn
1282
00:58:32,495 --> 00:58:35,134
Gene did witty uh Phillip Wilson I
1283
00:58:35,134 --> 00:58:37,295
believe on drums and there was a time
1284
00:58:37,295 --> 00:58:39,275
when Paul and that band played at the
1285
00:58:39,275 --> 00:58:41,735
cafe espresso and Woodstock on Wednesday
1286
00:58:41,735 --> 00:58:43,475
nights they sort of like did it like a
1287
00:58:43,475 --> 00:58:46,185
rehearsal it was just phenomenal
1288
00:58:46,185 --> 00:58:59,484
[Music]
1289
00:58:59,634 --> 00:59:02,735
Paul had an idyllic life in bearsville
1290
00:59:02,735 --> 00:59:05,795
in the early 70s he was a successful
1291
00:59:05,795 --> 00:59:08,914
performer a successful band a successful
1292
00:59:08,914 --> 00:59:11,134
record and everything was looking up for
1293
00:59:11,134 --> 00:59:14,134
him he had a beautiful wife Kathy and
1294
00:59:14,134 --> 00:59:16,535
they had a beautiful child Lee and he
1295
00:59:16,535 --> 00:59:19,114
was another happy bouncing blonde baby
1296
00:59:19,114 --> 00:59:23,555
boy and he had Albert the own Bears film
1297
00:59:23,555 --> 00:59:27,515
he found Paula's property
1298
00:59:27,515 --> 00:59:31,235
he had a beautiful Barn Old Red Barn was
1299
00:59:31,235 --> 00:59:33,154
painted beautifully
1300
00:59:33,154 --> 00:59:35,315
where I took those pictures of him
1301
00:59:35,315 --> 00:59:39,095
mowing along they belong took a lot of
1302
00:59:39,095 --> 00:59:41,914
work you know this is the American dream
1303
00:59:41,914 --> 00:59:44,555
and I've never seen him happier
1304
00:59:44,555 --> 00:59:47,495
the whole situation was very nice
1305
00:59:47,495 --> 00:59:49,354
you know when we lived in Woodstock we
1306
00:59:49,354 --> 00:59:52,174
had horses we had dogs we had cats we
1307
00:59:52,174 --> 00:59:54,335
had all this stuff we had an organic
1308
00:59:54,335 --> 00:59:56,495
farm we had
1309
00:59:56,495 --> 00:59:58,475
we had so many tomatoes we'd stand at
1310
00:59:58,475 --> 01:00:00,215
the back door and throw them out after I
1311
01:00:00,215 --> 01:00:01,835
made ketchup and tomato sauce and
1312
01:00:01,835 --> 01:00:03,815
everything else I could think of we had
1313
01:00:03,815 --> 01:00:06,095
11 and a half acres and a stream that
1314
01:00:06,095 --> 01:00:08,614
ran through our property you know these
1315
01:00:08,614 --> 01:00:11,674
beautiful horses we had this raccoon she
1316
01:00:11,674 --> 01:00:13,595
used to like lie in her back and Pull
1317
01:00:13,595 --> 01:00:15,695
and scratch her tummy and play with her
1318
01:00:15,695 --> 01:00:17,455
and everything was like an art project
1319
01:00:17,455 --> 01:00:19,955
you know one of the best memories that I
1320
01:00:19,955 --> 01:00:23,495
have of Paul is when he came to do a
1321
01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:25,475
session with us at the bearsville
1322
01:00:25,475 --> 01:00:27,874
studios when we put together this group
1323
01:00:27,874 --> 01:00:29,255
called The Woodstock mountains review
1324
01:00:29,255 --> 01:00:31,354
and he came up was the middle of a
1325
01:00:31,354 --> 01:00:33,695
snowstorm and he walked in and he went
1326
01:00:33,695 --> 01:00:36,275
into the studio at bearsville with John
1327
01:00:36,275 --> 01:00:38,975
Sebastian and the two of them pulled out
1328
01:00:38,975 --> 01:00:41,995
their harmonicas and it is the most
1329
01:00:41,995 --> 01:00:45,394
beyond belief version of Amazing Grace
1330
01:00:45,394 --> 01:00:48,394
with just the two of them as a harmonica
1331
01:00:48,394 --> 01:00:50,435
duet and I don't know if they had ever
1332
01:00:50,435 --> 01:00:52,475
played it together before but it was so
1333
01:00:52,475 --> 01:00:54,455
perfect and we were all sitting there
1334
01:00:54,455 --> 01:00:58,114
just completely open mouth and silenced
1335
01:00:58,114 --> 01:01:01,535
by this incredible thing and then it was
1336
01:01:01,535 --> 01:01:02,374
over
1337
01:01:02,374 --> 01:01:04,055
Paul got in his Jeep and went back down
1338
01:01:04,055 --> 01:01:05,305
the mountain
1339
01:01:05,305 --> 01:01:13,055
[Music]
1340
01:01:13,055 --> 01:01:16,055
foreign
1341
01:01:22,195 --> 01:01:24,634
Paul was one of the more what I call
1342
01:01:24,634 --> 01:01:27,455
generous musicians to play with he would
1343
01:01:27,455 --> 01:01:29,735
do a solo but he would also set you up
1344
01:01:29,735 --> 01:01:32,495
it was just like come on let's play you
1345
01:01:32,495 --> 01:01:35,435
know let's have a conversation together
1346
01:01:35,435 --> 01:01:40,174
it was Paul that first encouraged me to
1347
01:01:40,174 --> 01:01:43,174
let my Blues voice out and he would just
1348
01:01:43,174 --> 01:01:45,154
tell me don't worry about sounding
1349
01:01:45,154 --> 01:01:48,995
pretty or like singing Fancy Blues Licks
1350
01:01:48,995 --> 01:01:52,475
or anything just let your voice out and
1351
01:01:52,475 --> 01:01:55,114
so that was so encouraging I I to this
1352
01:01:55,114 --> 01:01:58,414
day I I have him to thank because now
1353
01:01:58,414 --> 01:02:01,114
many years later I have a blues voice
1354
01:02:01,114 --> 01:02:03,335
and can that's how I've always wanted to
1355
01:02:03,335 --> 01:02:05,435
express myself and he was the first
1356
01:02:05,435 --> 01:02:07,654
person to give me permission and
1357
01:02:07,654 --> 01:02:10,955
encouragement to do that
1358
01:02:10,955 --> 01:02:13,955
foreign
1359
01:02:14,195 --> 01:02:17,515
Paul was always a historian as well as
1360
01:02:17,515 --> 01:02:21,935
just a straight musician he revered the
1361
01:02:21,935 --> 01:02:23,975
people who came before him and that he
1362
01:02:23,975 --> 01:02:26,255
learned from Paul talked about the
1363
01:02:26,255 --> 01:02:28,835
harmonica players that he loved on a
1364
01:02:28,835 --> 01:02:30,874
series of instructional cassettes that
1365
01:02:30,874 --> 01:02:34,055
we made now on CDs hi this is Paul
1366
01:02:34,055 --> 01:02:35,435
Butterfield
1367
01:02:35,435 --> 01:02:37,894
I'd like to help bring some new insights
1368
01:02:37,894 --> 01:02:39,995
into the harmonica if I could
1369
01:02:39,995 --> 01:02:42,935
those notes can be used in so many
1370
01:02:42,935 --> 01:02:44,315
different ways in so many different
1371
01:02:44,315 --> 01:02:46,535
colors they're just beautiful colors to
1372
01:02:46,535 --> 01:02:48,955
that instrument
1373
01:02:49,555 --> 01:02:52,295
I thought it would be a nice idea to
1374
01:02:52,295 --> 01:02:54,575
talk about some of the influences on my
1375
01:02:54,575 --> 01:02:57,275
plane people that I heard in Chicago
1376
01:02:57,275 --> 01:02:59,735
growing up one thing that they all had
1377
01:02:59,735 --> 01:03:02,374
in common there was a certain urgency to
1378
01:03:02,374 --> 01:03:03,455
their playing
1379
01:03:03,455 --> 01:03:06,275
there was a certain tension to the way
1380
01:03:06,275 --> 01:03:08,495
they played the notes some more than
1381
01:03:08,495 --> 01:03:12,335
others Junior Parker was very relaxed in
1382
01:03:12,335 --> 01:03:13,975
his plane he sort of played like
1383
01:03:13,975 --> 01:03:19,745
[Music]
1384
01:03:24,755 --> 01:03:26,674
whereas Sonny Boy Williams had a very
1385
01:03:26,674 --> 01:03:29,614
Stark kind of hard way of saying things
1386
01:03:29,614 --> 01:03:32,575
on the harmonica
1387
01:03:33,165 --> 01:03:37,105
[Music]
1388
01:03:37,235 --> 01:03:40,475
Little Walter was very fluid kind of
1389
01:03:40,475 --> 01:03:42,695
lines and
1390
01:03:42,695 --> 01:03:44,935
foreign
1391
01:03:47,665 --> 01:03:51,835
[Music]
1392
01:03:51,835 --> 01:03:54,455
to this day that we were able to capture
1393
01:03:54,455 --> 01:03:57,455
that because I think it's Unique to have
1394
01:03:57,455 --> 01:04:00,335
some a record like that of his
1395
01:04:00,335 --> 01:04:02,695
musical thinking and his musical
1396
01:04:02,695 --> 01:04:06,935
experience for the learning player
1397
01:04:06,935 --> 01:04:18,354
[Music]
1398
01:04:18,354 --> 01:04:21,755
he influenced you know a zillion people
1399
01:04:21,755 --> 01:04:24,035
on harmonica certainly
1400
01:04:24,035 --> 01:04:26,495
and that wasn't enough then he was such
1401
01:04:26,495 --> 01:04:29,075
a great singer every time he sang you
1402
01:04:29,075 --> 01:04:30,935
could hear coming out of his soul every
1403
01:04:30,935 --> 01:04:31,775
song
1404
01:04:31,775 --> 01:04:33,695
you know I could never tell if he was
1405
01:04:33,695 --> 01:04:35,495
feeling good one day or feeling bad one
1406
01:04:35,495 --> 01:04:37,715
day he just played from his soul every
1407
01:04:37,715 --> 01:04:41,674
time Paul had this incredible power in
1408
01:04:41,674 --> 01:04:44,315
his voice and it was kind of that Irish
1409
01:04:44,315 --> 01:04:46,174
Tenor thing you know he had sort of an
1410
01:04:46,174 --> 01:04:49,414
Irish Tenor voice but there was some
1411
01:04:49,414 --> 01:04:51,815
kind of force behind it that came from
1412
01:04:51,815 --> 01:04:54,154
some other place one of the songs we
1413
01:04:54,154 --> 01:04:55,955
sang was play on
1414
01:04:55,955 --> 01:05:00,154
and it rocked it was he's just so great
1415
01:05:00,154 --> 01:05:03,755
you know it's just a so Soulful and he
1416
01:05:03,755 --> 01:05:06,394
can give you the blues and he can give
1417
01:05:06,394 --> 01:05:08,795
you a rock and roll he can give you the
1418
01:05:08,795 --> 01:05:11,134
soul you know really I thought he was
1419
01:05:11,134 --> 01:05:11,975
black
1420
01:05:11,975 --> 01:05:13,955
some of the little infections that he
1421
01:05:13,955 --> 01:05:16,055
does sounds like Jimi Hendrix and then
1422
01:05:16,055 --> 01:05:18,755
when he when he go there you know long
1423
01:05:18,755 --> 01:05:21,695
that's that's Ray Charles You know it's
1424
01:05:21,695 --> 01:05:24,335
very Soulful makes you want to move you
1425
01:05:24,335 --> 01:05:28,195
know he sounds great and looks great
1426
01:05:28,195 --> 01:05:31,114
thank you
1427
01:05:31,114 --> 01:05:33,575
sometimes I just feel like smiling as
1428
01:05:33,575 --> 01:05:35,555
Paul's seventh and final album on
1429
01:05:35,555 --> 01:05:38,315
Elektra with its main focus on the doors
1430
01:05:38,315 --> 01:05:40,174
and other more commercially successful
1431
01:05:40,174 --> 01:05:43,114
artists the label drops Paul
1432
01:05:43,114 --> 01:05:45,515
Jim Rooney now in Woodstock managing
1433
01:05:45,515 --> 01:05:47,914
bearsville Studios has a small office
1434
01:05:47,914 --> 01:05:51,095
upstairs in the bearsville complex
1435
01:05:51,095 --> 01:05:53,195
so I was up there one day and Paul came
1436
01:05:53,195 --> 01:05:56,495
in and he was on the phone to this guy
1437
01:05:56,495 --> 01:05:59,435
Joe Baskin at holiday travel booked all
1438
01:05:59,435 --> 01:06:02,195
of our travel anybody through Albert's
1439
01:06:02,195 --> 01:06:05,255
groups it was working every weekend with
1440
01:06:05,255 --> 01:06:07,535
that band I think Friday Saturday Sunday
1441
01:06:07,535 --> 01:06:09,455
three three dates a week and then they
1442
01:06:09,455 --> 01:06:11,075
come home and they'd be home during the
1443
01:06:11,075 --> 01:06:13,654
week which was a nice way to live so he
1444
01:06:13,654 --> 01:06:14,854
was looking for the tickets hadn't
1445
01:06:14,854 --> 01:06:16,775
gotten the tickets for the weekend
1446
01:06:16,775 --> 01:06:18,575
and he says what do you mean they
1447
01:06:18,575 --> 01:06:20,555
haven't been paid and the bills hadn't
1448
01:06:20,555 --> 01:06:23,435
been paid for a good long while I
1449
01:06:23,435 --> 01:06:25,894
Believe by this point Janice Joplin had
1450
01:06:25,894 --> 01:06:26,975
died
1451
01:06:26,975 --> 01:06:29,674
and it seems to me that the wind went
1452
01:06:29,674 --> 01:06:32,614
out of Albert sales a bit and the next
1453
01:06:32,614 --> 01:06:34,894
thing I know the Butterfield band is
1454
01:06:34,894 --> 01:06:36,335
dissolved
1455
01:06:36,335 --> 01:06:40,414
and it happened really fast
1456
01:06:40,414 --> 01:06:43,795
and that's a huge blow
1457
01:06:43,795 --> 01:06:46,535
and I never heard him say any bad word
1458
01:06:46,535 --> 01:06:48,935
about Albert they were good friends
1459
01:06:48,935 --> 01:06:51,634
in my own mind
1460
01:06:51,634 --> 01:06:54,154
I just don't think Paul ever recovered
1461
01:06:54,154 --> 01:06:56,575
from that
1462
01:06:59,215 --> 01:07:04,975
[Music]
1463
01:07:04,975 --> 01:07:08,255
standing by the highway
1464
01:07:08,255 --> 01:07:10,594
Paul's career is in limbo
1465
01:07:10,594 --> 01:07:12,755
Albert Grossman offers him a recording
1466
01:07:12,755 --> 01:07:14,614
contract with his Label bearsville
1467
01:07:14,614 --> 01:07:16,594
records which has just signed a
1468
01:07:16,594 --> 01:07:18,094
distribution agreement with Warner
1469
01:07:18,094 --> 01:07:19,114
Brothers
1470
01:07:19,114 --> 01:07:21,394
with no other offers on the table and
1471
01:07:21,394 --> 01:07:23,075
with bearsville's new state-of-the-art
1472
01:07:23,075 --> 01:07:24,874
recording studios less than three miles
1473
01:07:24,874 --> 01:07:27,715
from his house Paul accepts
1474
01:07:27,715 --> 01:07:31,594
1972 I think it was Albert's idea to
1475
01:07:31,594 --> 01:07:33,815
here's Paul you know or maybe in between
1476
01:07:33,815 --> 01:07:35,374
bands wondering what he's going to do
1477
01:07:35,374 --> 01:07:37,114
he's got this contract
1478
01:07:37,114 --> 01:07:39,995
Albert got a little Amos what a gorgeous
1479
01:07:39,995 --> 01:07:42,215
sound Amos had so now you got the three
1480
01:07:42,215 --> 01:07:43,114
of us
1481
01:07:43,114 --> 01:07:47,435
then in comes this guy Ronnie Baron the
1482
01:07:47,435 --> 01:07:49,174
guy was a character
1483
01:07:49,174 --> 01:07:52,354
had this great funky energy which Paul
1484
01:07:52,354 --> 01:07:54,995
made our own hybrid of that kind of
1485
01:07:54,995 --> 01:07:55,955
sound
1486
01:07:55,955 --> 01:07:58,835
and it worked perfectly
1487
01:07:58,835 --> 01:08:01,354
I think we got Topher next Christopher
1488
01:08:01,354 --> 01:08:05,135
Parker in came Bill rich and it was over
1489
01:08:05,135 --> 01:08:10,475
[Music]
1490
01:08:10,475 --> 01:08:11,735
I remember in the beginning we were
1491
01:08:11,735 --> 01:08:13,414
looking for drummers and bass players
1492
01:08:13,414 --> 01:08:15,695
and stuff for better days and he checked
1493
01:08:15,695 --> 01:08:18,215
bands down sometimes he'd sit in
1494
01:08:18,215 --> 01:08:20,975
and it wouldn't matter what band was
1495
01:08:20,975 --> 01:08:22,294
playing
1496
01:08:22,294 --> 01:08:24,935
whether it be at that joint or anywhere
1497
01:08:24,935 --> 01:08:28,414
else if he sat in and they were grooving
1498
01:08:28,414 --> 01:08:31,354
as soon as he played three notes
1499
01:08:31,354 --> 01:08:34,234
the groove was way better
1500
01:08:34,234 --> 01:08:36,955
that was his magic he just
1501
01:08:36,955 --> 01:08:40,374
and you're in
1502
01:08:42,995 --> 01:08:45,274
we made one very good album with that
1503
01:08:45,274 --> 01:08:47,675
band very proud of it two and a half
1504
01:08:47,675 --> 01:08:48,814
years
1505
01:08:48,814 --> 01:08:51,515
I think we had a quick burnout I don't
1506
01:08:51,515 --> 01:08:53,635
know how it happens you know you hear
1507
01:08:53,635 --> 01:08:56,195
stories about the Eagles and stuff and
1508
01:08:56,195 --> 01:08:58,055
then they they have a meeting and they
1509
01:08:58,055 --> 01:09:00,394
pull it all together and they all go
1510
01:09:00,394 --> 01:09:02,015
straight
1511
01:09:02,015 --> 01:09:03,394
you know
1512
01:09:03,394 --> 01:09:06,754
and they put somebody in a rehab and
1513
01:09:06,754 --> 01:09:08,975
then they go on for another 10 years you
1514
01:09:08,975 --> 01:09:11,675
know it didn't happen to us
1515
01:09:11,675 --> 01:09:14,615
in general the times were definitely a
1516
01:09:14,615 --> 01:09:17,615
changing and all the benign pot smoking
1517
01:09:17,615 --> 01:09:20,374
that we've done in the in the 60s and
1518
01:09:20,374 --> 01:09:24,575
early 70s was giving way to harder stuff
1519
01:09:24,575 --> 01:09:27,035
and people were now getting turned on to
1520
01:09:27,035 --> 01:09:29,854
Coke and using a lot of it and and I
1521
01:09:29,854 --> 01:09:32,794
remember that Jeffrey and Paul I just
1522
01:09:32,794 --> 01:09:35,555
saw them really kind of living out there
1523
01:09:35,555 --> 01:09:39,754
Macho rock star dreams uh and you know
1524
01:09:39,754 --> 01:09:42,635
playing the part by doing extra levels
1525
01:09:42,635 --> 01:09:45,635
of drug taking and drinking and it just
1526
01:09:45,635 --> 01:09:49,175
escalated and escalated and uh and then
1527
01:09:49,175 --> 01:09:51,635
you know started having kind of a darker
1528
01:09:51,635 --> 01:09:53,315
and darker side after a while
1529
01:09:53,315 --> 01:09:59,455
[Music]
1530
01:09:59,455 --> 01:10:02,254
Kathy must have been a calming Force for
1531
01:10:02,254 --> 01:10:03,455
Paul
1532
01:10:03,455 --> 01:10:07,115
you know we were partying so hard
1533
01:10:07,115 --> 01:10:09,575
and she was probably extremely uh
1534
01:10:09,575 --> 01:10:11,734
forgiving of
1535
01:10:11,734 --> 01:10:14,315
the Boogie Woogie you know
1536
01:10:14,315 --> 01:10:17,495
because we'd roll in from
1537
01:10:17,495 --> 01:10:19,955
closing all the bars and that was that
1538
01:10:19,955 --> 01:10:21,635
wasn't the end of the night at all you
1539
01:10:21,635 --> 01:10:23,615
know there's many Dawns were coming you
1540
01:10:23,615 --> 01:10:24,875
know
1541
01:10:24,875 --> 01:10:27,274
and there was one morning where he burst
1542
01:10:27,274 --> 01:10:31,234
into tears about how much he loved Kathy
1543
01:10:31,234 --> 01:10:33,335
to me it meant
1544
01:10:33,335 --> 01:10:36,455
that he felt bad about something you
1545
01:10:36,455 --> 01:10:39,455
know like he wasn't being as good a
1546
01:10:39,455 --> 01:10:42,995
man for her as he could have been but uh
1547
01:10:42,995 --> 01:10:44,195
I don't think anybody could ever
1548
01:10:44,195 --> 01:10:46,055
consider thinking about Paul sitting
1549
01:10:46,055 --> 01:10:49,234
there bawling weeping you know and I
1550
01:10:49,234 --> 01:10:50,555
probably just said hey let's have
1551
01:10:50,555 --> 01:10:52,475
another drink
1552
01:10:52,475 --> 01:10:54,754
Paul's first two bearsville releases
1553
01:10:54,754 --> 01:10:58,415
with better days in 1973. sell well and
1554
01:10:58,415 --> 01:11:01,055
receive favorable reviews the band is
1555
01:11:01,055 --> 01:11:03,214
constantly on the road but they break up
1556
01:11:03,214 --> 01:11:05,315
in 1974.
1557
01:11:05,315 --> 01:11:07,955
Paul uses the downtime to catch up on
1558
01:11:07,955 --> 01:11:09,875
requests for his Services as a session
1559
01:11:09,875 --> 01:11:12,754
player and guests on albums by Bonnie
1560
01:11:12,754 --> 01:11:13,905
Raitt and others
1561
01:11:13,905 --> 01:11:17,375
[Music]
1562
01:11:17,375 --> 01:11:19,655
he's invited to be a musical guest at
1563
01:11:19,655 --> 01:11:22,115
The Last Waltz a concert advertised as
1564
01:11:22,115 --> 01:11:24,754
the band's farewell appearance held at
1565
01:11:24,754 --> 01:11:26,435
Bill Graham's winterland in San
1566
01:11:26,435 --> 01:11:30,155
Francisco on Thanksgiving 1976 featuring
1567
01:11:30,155 --> 01:11:33,335
Bob Dylan Joni Mitchell Neil Young Eric
1568
01:11:33,335 --> 01:11:36,455
Clapton Ron Wood and Paul's old friend
1569
01:11:36,455 --> 01:11:38,855
Muddy Waters the event is filmed by
1570
01:11:38,855 --> 01:11:41,075
director Martin Scorsese and released as
1571
01:11:41,075 --> 01:11:43,595
a documentary in 1978.
1572
01:11:43,595 --> 01:11:45,995
I remember how proud he was of that I
1573
01:11:45,995 --> 01:11:48,335
could have shown you the the old Last
1574
01:11:48,335 --> 01:11:51,695
Waltz record and he said to Lee love
1575
01:11:51,695 --> 01:11:53,675
Daddy you know and wrote me I remember
1576
01:11:53,675 --> 01:11:55,895
him just being so proud
1577
01:11:55,895 --> 01:11:58,774
of that record you know I mean what a
1578
01:11:58,774 --> 01:12:02,435
great lineup right it's just unreal
1579
01:12:02,435 --> 01:12:05,794
Paul used to appear quite regularly with
1580
01:12:05,794 --> 01:12:08,975
Levon Helm and the rco All-Stars and
1581
01:12:08,975 --> 01:12:11,734
that was just a floating party of
1582
01:12:11,734 --> 01:12:13,405
amazing musicians
1583
01:12:13,405 --> 01:12:20,044
[Music]
1584
01:12:20,254 --> 01:12:22,435
foreign
1585
01:12:25,925 --> 01:12:52,415
[Music]
1586
01:12:52,415 --> 01:12:55,365
thank you foreign
1587
01:12:55,365 --> 01:13:00,234
[Music]
1588
01:13:00,234 --> 01:13:03,935
band was really a monster combination
1589
01:13:03,935 --> 01:13:06,214
and the shows that I saw and the ones
1590
01:13:06,214 --> 01:13:08,615
that we had to play with you know what I
1591
01:13:08,615 --> 01:13:11,075
wasn't a musician that wasn't wrapped
1592
01:13:11,075 --> 01:13:14,005
attention at the side of the stage
1593
01:13:14,005 --> 01:13:25,365
[Music]
1594
01:13:25,774 --> 01:13:28,734
foreign
1595
01:13:35,495 --> 01:13:37,714
totally unique voices on their
1596
01:13:37,714 --> 01:13:39,815
instruments and just as people and their
1597
01:13:39,815 --> 01:13:41,315
personalities they sparked each other
1598
01:13:41,315 --> 01:13:43,835
really well they just had the stuff you
1599
01:13:43,835 --> 01:13:45,895
know
1600
01:13:50,875 --> 01:13:55,825
[Music]
1601
01:13:59,675 --> 01:14:02,615
I know Paul as time went on with his
1602
01:14:02,615 --> 01:14:05,195
contract with bearsville records became
1603
01:14:05,195 --> 01:14:07,655
unhappy with the promotion that
1604
01:14:07,655 --> 01:14:10,415
bearsville was doing Albert was very
1605
01:14:10,415 --> 01:14:12,515
involved in building his restaurants and
1606
01:14:12,515 --> 01:14:15,395
the bearsville complex and Paul felt
1607
01:14:15,395 --> 01:14:18,035
that he was affected by that it was
1608
01:14:18,035 --> 01:14:19,535
difficult for Paul because he was all
1609
01:14:19,535 --> 01:14:22,075
about music
1610
01:14:22,595 --> 01:14:26,734
there was he didn't have that
1611
01:14:26,734 --> 01:14:28,895
political instinct
1612
01:14:28,895 --> 01:14:30,995
his decline took place over a long
1613
01:14:30,995 --> 01:14:32,855
period of time and it was very difficult
1614
01:14:32,855 --> 01:14:36,635
to see our relationship had become
1615
01:14:36,635 --> 01:14:39,754
somewhat distant just because
1616
01:14:39,754 --> 01:14:42,395
I lived in one place more or less and he
1617
01:14:42,395 --> 01:14:44,495
lived in lots of places
1618
01:14:44,495 --> 01:14:47,195
and he would call me
1619
01:14:47,195 --> 01:14:48,214
um
1620
01:14:48,214 --> 01:14:50,015
often at two or three o'clock in the
1621
01:14:50,015 --> 01:14:51,274
morning
1622
01:14:51,274 --> 01:14:52,595
and
1623
01:14:52,595 --> 01:14:54,095
in terms of his phone calls how
1624
01:14:54,095 --> 01:14:56,075
distressed he seemed
1625
01:14:56,075 --> 01:14:58,714
that was an important part of
1626
01:14:58,714 --> 01:15:01,714
of my knowing I mean I knew he was
1627
01:15:01,714 --> 01:15:04,055
having some difficulties but
1628
01:15:04,055 --> 01:15:06,335
so phone calls would say okay
1629
01:15:06,335 --> 01:15:09,395
I'm doing better now or okay I'm doing
1630
01:15:09,395 --> 01:15:10,535
worse now
1631
01:15:10,535 --> 01:15:13,774
after we had Lee we kind of settled down
1632
01:15:13,774 --> 01:15:16,115
more I mean Paul would still go on the
1633
01:15:16,115 --> 01:15:17,734
road and it was even it was harder for
1634
01:15:17,734 --> 01:15:18,754
him then
1635
01:15:18,754 --> 01:15:21,095
it was fragmenting
1636
01:15:21,095 --> 01:15:22,895
that's when he started getting really
1637
01:15:22,895 --> 01:15:24,695
kind of fragmented
1638
01:15:24,695 --> 01:15:28,475
it was uh heartbreaking you know
1639
01:15:28,475 --> 01:15:30,155
they were madly in love with one another
1640
01:15:30,155 --> 01:15:32,734
I was a young kid
1641
01:15:32,734 --> 01:15:37,415
people didn't have the same awareness of
1642
01:15:37,415 --> 01:15:40,294
how dangerous drugs and alcohol can be
1643
01:15:40,294 --> 01:15:42,754
and how they can completely
1644
01:15:42,754 --> 01:15:45,815
twist someone's mind and their
1645
01:15:45,815 --> 01:15:48,955
priorities and
1646
01:15:49,355 --> 01:15:52,895
you know where to go to get some help
1647
01:15:52,895 --> 01:15:56,254
with this how do we work it out and
1648
01:15:56,254 --> 01:15:58,535
there's no question in my mind that she
1649
01:15:58,535 --> 01:16:01,595
was worried my dad was not an abusive
1650
01:16:01,595 --> 01:16:02,615
person
1651
01:16:02,615 --> 01:16:06,455
he didn't hurt people he wasn't that
1652
01:16:06,455 --> 01:16:08,135
kind of scary
1653
01:16:08,135 --> 01:16:09,575
but
1654
01:16:09,575 --> 01:16:12,515
he was surrounded by as many Yes Men as
1655
01:16:12,515 --> 01:16:14,675
he felt like being surrounded by at any
1656
01:16:14,675 --> 01:16:17,214
given time
1657
01:16:18,035 --> 01:16:21,754
you know there were people wanting to
1658
01:16:21,754 --> 01:16:24,695
give him things just because they wanted
1659
01:16:24,695 --> 01:16:26,734
to hang out with him and I was a little
1660
01:16:26,734 --> 01:16:30,395
kid and that's lonely and hard to deal
1661
01:16:30,395 --> 01:16:32,195
with especially if you're raising a
1662
01:16:32,195 --> 01:16:34,234
child and your husband's on the road all
1663
01:16:34,234 --> 01:16:36,095
the time I mean I my heart goes out to
1664
01:16:36,095 --> 01:16:37,835
her you know and what she must have felt
1665
01:16:37,835 --> 01:16:41,015
I think it was around 76 that she
1666
01:16:41,015 --> 01:16:44,734
decided to be she had to leave Woodstock
1667
01:16:44,734 --> 01:16:49,475
pack the car up and we drove out west
1668
01:16:49,475 --> 01:16:52,175
um not long after that
1669
01:16:52,175 --> 01:16:55,415
my dad came to you know try to mend
1670
01:16:55,415 --> 01:16:57,875
things and
1671
01:16:57,875 --> 01:17:01,714
he would come out and and stay for
1672
01:17:01,714 --> 01:17:04,714
periods of time it is hard for me to
1673
01:17:04,714 --> 01:17:06,635
think about that time in my life because
1674
01:17:06,635 --> 01:17:09,695
when you're asking your parent to be
1675
01:17:09,695 --> 01:17:12,935
there for you and there
1676
01:17:12,935 --> 01:17:16,254
you know in another place all together
1677
01:17:16,254 --> 01:17:20,075
that's you know that's tough you know he
1678
01:17:20,075 --> 01:17:22,475
was still struggling and he'd known
1679
01:17:22,475 --> 01:17:25,415
nothing but the road since he was young
1680
01:17:25,415 --> 01:17:27,875
and I think he felt a bit lost
1681
01:17:27,875 --> 01:17:30,695
and he was still deeply in love and you
1682
01:17:30,695 --> 01:17:32,615
know he I know he I know how much he
1683
01:17:32,615 --> 01:17:37,055
loved me and we talked all the time but
1684
01:17:37,055 --> 01:17:38,435
you know
1685
01:17:38,435 --> 01:17:40,294
he would make promises that he couldn't
1686
01:17:40,294 --> 01:17:42,695
keep and that kept breaking my heart and
1687
01:17:42,695 --> 01:17:44,315
you know to make light of it my mom
1688
01:17:44,315 --> 01:17:47,555
would say oh yeah you know it's not that
1689
01:17:47,555 --> 01:17:49,595
your dad you know means to be late it's
1690
01:17:49,595 --> 01:17:51,635
it's Paul Butterfield time you know oh
1691
01:17:51,635 --> 01:17:53,794
okay what you know the tour manager
1692
01:17:53,794 --> 01:17:57,754
changed it from March now to June and
1693
01:17:57,754 --> 01:17:59,915
that's being late you know you don't
1694
01:17:59,915 --> 01:18:02,195
bother to call and say I'm not going to
1695
01:18:02,195 --> 01:18:03,754
be out there until this time you know
1696
01:18:03,754 --> 01:18:05,435
but
1697
01:18:05,435 --> 01:18:06,635
um
1698
01:18:06,635 --> 01:18:09,214
I learned to really cherish the times
1699
01:18:09,214 --> 01:18:11,495
that I get to go crash with him at the
1700
01:18:11,495 --> 01:18:13,355
in a hotel room and get up in the
1701
01:18:13,355 --> 01:18:15,335
morning and eat cold pizza and hang out
1702
01:18:15,335 --> 01:18:17,075
at the sound checks and go on Small
1703
01:18:17,075 --> 01:18:18,395
tours with him
1704
01:18:18,395 --> 01:18:22,355
and um you know but it was also really
1705
01:18:22,355 --> 01:18:24,774
tough
1706
01:18:26,794 --> 01:18:29,675
in 1980 Paul is living in the Woodstock
1707
01:18:29,675 --> 01:18:31,475
house with his girlfriend musician
1708
01:18:31,475 --> 01:18:34,055
Elizabeth baraclaw and collapses while
1709
01:18:34,055 --> 01:18:35,975
recording his north south album in
1710
01:18:35,975 --> 01:18:36,935
Memphis
1711
01:18:36,935 --> 01:18:39,875
he's diagnosed with peritonitis a
1712
01:18:39,875 --> 01:18:41,734
painful inflammation of the inner lining
1713
01:18:41,734 --> 01:18:43,835
of the abdomen typically caused by a
1714
01:18:43,835 --> 01:18:45,455
bacterial infection
1715
01:18:45,455 --> 01:18:47,555
the condition is aggravated by Paul's
1716
01:18:47,555 --> 01:18:49,835
heavy drinking use of cocaine and heroin
1717
01:18:49,835 --> 01:18:51,455
and poor diet
1718
01:18:51,455 --> 01:18:53,135
he receives treatment for the rest of
1719
01:18:53,135 --> 01:18:55,515
his life including multiple surgeries
1720
01:18:55,515 --> 01:18:57,274
[Music]
1721
01:18:57,274 --> 01:18:59,495
Jerry Lee Lewis
1722
01:18:59,495 --> 01:19:02,315
was diagnosed with peritonitis before
1723
01:19:02,315 --> 01:19:05,254
Paul was anyway he he was seen to be
1724
01:19:05,254 --> 01:19:07,475
wearing it as a badge of honor
1725
01:19:07,475 --> 01:19:09,635
he was indominable he wasn't going to be
1726
01:19:09,635 --> 01:19:12,274
slowed down by this at all which is why
1727
01:19:12,274 --> 01:19:14,794
for the really end of his career that I
1728
01:19:14,794 --> 01:19:16,415
could begin to see signs that things
1729
01:19:16,415 --> 01:19:19,415
were taking him down and his lack of
1730
01:19:19,415 --> 01:19:21,575
awareness I think that was more
1731
01:19:21,575 --> 01:19:22,935
heartbreaking than anything
1732
01:19:22,935 --> 01:19:24,095
[Music]
1733
01:19:24,095 --> 01:19:27,274
Christmas it was the early 80s he was an
1734
01:19:27,274 --> 01:19:29,855
emergency room at Kingston hospital is
1735
01:19:29,855 --> 01:19:33,455
his insides had dissolved
1736
01:19:33,455 --> 01:19:36,035
and Neil just about died
1737
01:19:36,035 --> 01:19:39,995
and I made a point of coming up here in
1738
01:19:39,995 --> 01:19:41,435
January
1739
01:19:41,435 --> 01:19:44,135
Kathy was gone by this point he was with
1740
01:19:44,135 --> 01:19:47,135
Elizabeth bear Clough
1741
01:19:47,135 --> 01:19:49,415
the house was like
1742
01:19:49,415 --> 01:19:51,155
empty
1743
01:19:51,155 --> 01:19:55,234
and I went over to see him
1744
01:19:55,234 --> 01:19:58,535
and by God wasn't he ate it again
1745
01:19:58,535 --> 01:20:02,435
and I said I so I was so pissed off
1746
01:20:02,435 --> 01:20:03,635
I said
1747
01:20:03,635 --> 01:20:05,734
I came up here I thought you were gonna
1748
01:20:05,734 --> 01:20:06,815
die
1749
01:20:06,815 --> 01:20:09,214
I said
1750
01:20:09,214 --> 01:20:12,875
I said I just can't believe this
1751
01:20:12,875 --> 01:20:15,875
you know I just can't believe it
1752
01:20:15,875 --> 01:20:18,575
and he did the whole cute thing you know
1753
01:20:18,575 --> 01:20:20,675
oh hey man it's just I'm not you know
1754
01:20:20,675 --> 01:20:22,655
it's just a little
1755
01:20:22,655 --> 01:20:25,175
taste you know
1756
01:20:25,175 --> 01:20:29,435
Alice kill me wow
1757
01:20:29,435 --> 01:20:31,955
Paul sells the Woodstock house the last
1758
01:20:31,955 --> 01:20:33,635
remaining symbol of his hard-earned
1759
01:20:33,635 --> 01:20:36,754
success in late 1981 and moves to New
1760
01:20:36,754 --> 01:20:37,655
York City
1761
01:20:37,655 --> 01:20:39,575
while he still plays the occasional gig
1762
01:20:39,575 --> 01:20:41,855
he has no record contract and very
1763
01:20:41,855 --> 01:20:44,195
little money with the popularity of
1764
01:20:44,195 --> 01:20:46,774
disco and other musical genres the 80s
1765
01:20:46,774 --> 01:20:48,935
is a tough time to be a blues musician
1766
01:20:48,935 --> 01:20:51,335
he spends much of his time hustling
1767
01:20:51,335 --> 01:20:54,935
money for Booze cocaine and heroin he
1768
01:20:54,935 --> 01:20:56,734
stays with friends when he can but he's
1769
01:20:56,734 --> 01:20:58,294
running out of friends
1770
01:20:58,294 --> 01:21:00,635
then opportunity arrives from an
1771
01:21:00,635 --> 01:21:02,315
unexpected Source when New York
1772
01:21:02,315 --> 01:21:04,774
investment banker Ray Godfrey offers to
1773
01:21:04,774 --> 01:21:07,734
finance a new album
1774
01:21:09,985 --> 01:21:17,855
[Music]
1775
01:21:17,855 --> 01:21:20,315
[Applause]
1776
01:21:20,315 --> 01:21:22,355
it was almost like a dream
1777
01:21:22,355 --> 01:21:25,115
that there he was in The Gramercy hotel
1778
01:21:25,115 --> 01:21:26,375
where I was living there was Paul
1779
01:21:26,375 --> 01:21:27,935
Butterfield
1780
01:21:27,935 --> 01:21:32,495
he was checking in and he stayed for a
1781
01:21:32,495 --> 01:21:34,175
good many months
1782
01:21:34,175 --> 01:21:36,515
he had a lot of demons as we all know
1783
01:21:36,515 --> 01:21:39,214
one of them was he couldn't eat at just
1784
01:21:39,214 --> 01:21:41,495
anything shooting items were off his
1785
01:21:41,495 --> 01:21:43,895
diet but he couldn't help himself
1786
01:21:43,895 --> 01:21:47,435
he loved and would shovel in the worst
1787
01:21:47,435 --> 01:21:49,955
fried peppers and he couldn't get enough
1788
01:21:49,955 --> 01:21:53,675
of them and I said to myself man that is
1789
01:21:53,675 --> 01:21:56,794
living the blues he he's he lives the
1790
01:21:56,794 --> 01:21:58,774
Blues by totally
1791
01:21:58,774 --> 01:22:01,055
putting himself through that on purpose
1792
01:22:01,055 --> 01:22:02,495
you know I think
1793
01:22:02,495 --> 01:22:04,294
you know whatever Muddy Waters would
1794
01:22:04,294 --> 01:22:05,734
have however he would have written it
1795
01:22:05,734 --> 01:22:06,754
Paul
1796
01:22:06,754 --> 01:22:09,875
lived it that much we knew he went off
1797
01:22:09,875 --> 01:22:13,595
into the cosmos and into Eastern scales
1798
01:22:13,595 --> 01:22:17,375
and experimental music but never lost
1799
01:22:17,375 --> 01:22:20,805
the soul of a Chicago blues Man
1800
01:22:20,805 --> 01:22:22,475
[Music]
1801
01:22:22,475 --> 01:22:24,055
Caress Me Baby
1802
01:22:24,055 --> 01:22:28,475
[Music]
1803
01:22:28,475 --> 01:22:32,755
like the wind caress the tree
1804
01:22:32,755 --> 01:22:37,495
[Music]
1805
01:22:37,495 --> 01:22:43,294
I want you to love love me baby
1806
01:22:43,294 --> 01:22:47,465
like a cool soft Summer Breeze
1807
01:22:47,465 --> 01:22:50,035
[Music]
1808
01:22:50,035 --> 01:22:53,075
when Albert Grossman passed away on on
1809
01:22:53,075 --> 01:22:56,135
Super Bowl Sunday 1986 it was a
1810
01:22:56,135 --> 01:22:58,535
devastating day for those musicians and
1811
01:22:58,535 --> 01:23:01,535
I know Paul was felt the same way no
1812
01:23:01,535 --> 01:23:03,515
matter what the music business was like
1813
01:23:03,515 --> 01:23:05,254
at the time Albert had been like a
1814
01:23:05,254 --> 01:23:07,655
father to those musicians and they were
1815
01:23:07,655 --> 01:23:10,734
deeply affected
1816
01:23:11,155 --> 01:23:15,515
in 1986 Paul moves to Los Angeles not
1817
01:23:15,515 --> 01:23:17,375
far from Kathy and Lee
1818
01:23:17,375 --> 01:23:19,415
while in constant pain from his
1819
01:23:19,415 --> 01:23:22,175
peritonitis he makes serious attempts to
1820
01:23:22,175 --> 01:23:24,035
conquer his alcohol and drug dependency
1821
01:23:24,035 --> 01:23:27,695
and regain control of his life rehab
1822
01:23:27,695 --> 01:23:29,375
stents are only intermittently
1823
01:23:29,375 --> 01:23:31,895
successful but he continues to perform
1824
01:23:31,895 --> 01:23:35,075
and on stage he always Rises to the
1825
01:23:35,075 --> 01:23:36,214
occasion
1826
01:23:36,214 --> 01:23:38,155
it was April 15th
1827
01:23:38,155 --> 01:23:41,615
1987 Paul went to Los Angeles to play on
1828
01:23:41,615 --> 01:23:43,774
a BB King special with Eric Clapton
1829
01:23:43,774 --> 01:23:47,555
Stevie Ray Vaughan Albert King
1830
01:23:47,555 --> 01:23:49,294
um Phil Collins
1831
01:23:49,294 --> 01:23:53,075
and Paul was not in good shape and his
1832
01:23:53,075 --> 01:23:55,895
alcoholism was worse and worse
1833
01:23:55,895 --> 01:23:58,355
and yet he stole the show
1834
01:23:58,355 --> 01:24:20,855
[Music]
1835
01:24:20,855 --> 01:24:22,235
[Applause]
1836
01:24:22,235 --> 01:24:32,095
[Music]
1837
01:24:32,095 --> 01:24:36,234
look at the tears
1838
01:24:40,065 --> 01:24:43,664
[Music]
1839
01:24:52,945 --> 01:24:55,535
[Music]
1840
01:24:55,535 --> 01:24:58,655
he was just himself he was a real man
1841
01:24:58,655 --> 01:25:01,055
he was one of the leaders in the
1842
01:25:01,055 --> 01:25:02,435
harmonica business
1843
01:25:02,435 --> 01:25:05,555
but Paul was a young man so it's left to
1844
01:25:05,555 --> 01:25:07,714
you being a whole lot of others to keep
1845
01:25:07,714 --> 01:25:09,935
it going we would be treating him fast
1846
01:25:09,935 --> 01:25:11,605
we did
1847
01:25:11,605 --> 01:25:25,115
[Music]
1848
01:25:25,115 --> 01:25:26,975
after post-production it came out after
1849
01:25:26,975 --> 01:25:28,774
Paul died which was only less than a
1850
01:25:28,774 --> 01:25:30,875
month later and they posthumously
1851
01:25:30,875 --> 01:25:32,915
dedicated that show to him
1852
01:25:32,915 --> 01:25:35,135
he came to Woodstock after that because
1853
01:25:35,135 --> 01:25:37,355
he was going to get together with Rick
1854
01:25:37,355 --> 01:25:39,995
for those shows in Woodstock and a
1855
01:25:39,995 --> 01:25:42,274
little bit of a tour there and Rick
1856
01:25:42,274 --> 01:25:44,734
certainly had his own issues and he was
1857
01:25:44,734 --> 01:25:47,195
on those last shows with Paul including
1858
01:25:47,195 --> 01:25:49,895
the last show at uh graffitis a
1859
01:25:49,895 --> 01:25:51,005
nightclub in Pittsburgh
1860
01:25:51,005 --> 01:25:56,464
[Music]
1861
01:25:56,815 --> 01:25:59,905
[Applause]
1862
01:26:00,695 --> 01:26:03,095
the morning after that show
1863
01:26:03,095 --> 01:26:07,115
I got a call from Rick at the hotel and
1864
01:26:07,115 --> 01:26:09,035
he told me the ambulance had come and
1865
01:26:09,035 --> 01:26:13,115
picked up Paul and he was unconscious at
1866
01:26:13,115 --> 01:26:14,315
the hotel room
1867
01:26:14,315 --> 01:26:16,115
and Paul got admitted to the hospital
1868
01:26:16,115 --> 01:26:17,975
there in Pittsburgh
1869
01:26:17,975 --> 01:26:20,015
they were concerned about him enough to
1870
01:26:20,015 --> 01:26:22,294
hold him in the state of Pennsylvania at
1871
01:26:22,294 --> 01:26:24,935
the hospital and then he checked out and
1872
01:26:24,935 --> 01:26:27,395
went to Hollywood and he passed away I
1873
01:26:27,395 --> 01:26:29,975
believe it was May 4th only about a week
1874
01:26:29,975 --> 01:26:31,055
later
1875
01:26:31,055 --> 01:26:33,875
I mean he was the love of my life and
1876
01:26:33,875 --> 01:26:36,395
even though I had a lot of trouble with
1877
01:26:36,395 --> 01:26:38,495
some of the things that were going on
1878
01:26:38,495 --> 01:26:41,635
I loved him dearly
1879
01:26:41,635 --> 01:26:43,835
and he loved me
1880
01:26:43,835 --> 01:26:45,155
and
1881
01:26:45,155 --> 01:26:48,214
we had a very
1882
01:26:48,214 --> 01:26:52,675
private and very close Bond
1883
01:26:53,075 --> 01:26:53,975
um
1884
01:26:53,975 --> 01:26:58,135
yeah I was very very sad to lose him
1885
01:26:58,495 --> 01:27:02,794
I've done a lot of wrong things
1886
01:27:02,794 --> 01:27:06,475
in my life
1887
01:27:08,694 --> 01:27:11,315
that's all right
1888
01:27:11,315 --> 01:27:12,615
foreign
1889
01:27:12,615 --> 01:27:24,294
[Music]
1890
01:27:24,294 --> 01:27:28,595
and I've done a lot of wrong things
1891
01:27:28,595 --> 01:27:31,794
sure that was right
1892
01:27:32,065 --> 01:27:34,175
[Music]
1893
01:27:34,175 --> 01:27:37,435
right that's all right too
1894
01:27:38,265 --> 01:27:40,115
[Music]
1895
01:27:40,115 --> 01:27:43,774
I had fun
1896
01:27:43,774 --> 01:27:46,774
foreign
1897
01:27:47,625 --> 01:27:52,395
[Music]
1898
01:28:01,254 --> 01:28:04,655
just to come and keep
1899
01:28:04,655 --> 01:28:07,555
me company
1900
01:28:07,905 --> 01:28:11,554
[Music]
1901
01:28:13,135 --> 01:28:17,395
and when I get low
1902
01:28:18,895 --> 01:28:21,935
I know right where to go
1903
01:28:21,935 --> 01:28:25,315
[Music]
1904
01:28:25,315 --> 01:28:28,294
someone's that came
1905
01:28:28,294 --> 01:28:32,315
good care everybody
1906
01:28:32,315 --> 01:28:33,575
[Music]
1907
01:28:33,575 --> 01:28:36,415
he died the same
1908
01:28:36,415 --> 01:28:39,815
ages I am right now you know
1909
01:28:39,815 --> 01:28:43,774
and I feel young I feel like my life is
1910
01:28:43,774 --> 01:28:46,475
just starting I've got
1911
01:28:46,475 --> 01:28:49,294
such a beautiful family and so much love
1912
01:28:49,294 --> 01:28:51,815
to give and so much to offer
1913
01:28:51,815 --> 01:28:55,895
and I can't possibly imagine
1914
01:28:55,895 --> 01:28:59,375
my life ending now
1915
01:28:59,375 --> 01:29:01,955
Paul didn't happen to fit into some view
1916
01:29:01,955 --> 01:29:04,535
of where the Zeitgeist was at at that
1917
01:29:04,535 --> 01:29:07,595
particular point you know
1918
01:29:07,595 --> 01:29:10,535
and sometimes you just gotta lay low you
1919
01:29:10,535 --> 01:29:12,575
just gotta wait and then the world makes
1920
01:29:12,575 --> 01:29:15,155
a couple more turns and all of a sudden
1921
01:29:15,155 --> 01:29:18,274
you're in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
1922
01:29:18,274 --> 01:29:21,995
my own experience with Blues men is that
1923
01:29:21,995 --> 01:29:24,395
something some energy inside of them I
1924
01:29:24,395 --> 01:29:26,015
don't want to use the word pain maybe
1925
01:29:26,015 --> 01:29:29,315
it's Joy something has to come out and
1926
01:29:29,315 --> 01:29:32,015
they discover Blues as they're out with
1927
01:29:32,015 --> 01:29:34,294
boy Paul was definitely one of those
1928
01:29:34,294 --> 01:29:36,875
guys that you put that harp to his lips
1929
01:29:36,875 --> 01:29:40,675
man and something from his soul
1930
01:29:45,455 --> 01:29:48,455
foreign
1931
01:29:51,285 --> 01:29:57,335
[Music]
1932
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foreign
1933
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I had the honor to be one of the
1934
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speakers at Paul's memorial service here
1935
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in Woodstock and among the things I said
1936
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was this which I think sums up my
1937
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feeling about Paul
1938
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and I'll read this to you
1939
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Paul used to say that he played only one
1940
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note but he really knew how to play it
1941
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maybe that's a little bit of an
1942
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oversimplification
1943
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but when he got in front of a microphone
1944
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with a harmonic in his hand he was
1945
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transformed
1946
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everything else was stripped away the
1947
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walls came down and raw feelings came
1948
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out
1949
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Underneath It All That's where his true
1950
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Talent was and his ability to play that
1951
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note with so much heart that it couldn't
1952
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miss going right to the heart of anyone
1953
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who listened
1954
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1955
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and just to come and keep me company
1956
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1957
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foreign
1958
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1959
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[Music]
1960
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1961
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of me
1962
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1963
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[Applause]
1964
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1965
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1966
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can I go there too
1967
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1968
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there's one thing I will follow you I'd
1969
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rather die and live without you merry
1970
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merry where are you going
1975
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It's Not Over
1977
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wherever you go child
1978
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[Music]
1979
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until I win your love again
1980
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stand beside you welcome to this
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