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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,919 --> 00:00:04,505 (upbeat music) 2 00:00:47,339 --> 00:00:52,094 (announcer speaking in foreign language) 3 00:01:27,754 --> 00:01:30,340 (upbeat music) 4 00:02:54,341 --> 00:02:56,468 - Believe me, you wouldn't want to be an air hostess. 5 00:02:56,468 --> 00:02:58,679 I've never been pinched so often in my life. 6 00:02:58,679 --> 00:03:00,013 I'm black and blue all over. 7 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:01,098 Just a minute, I'll show you. 8 00:03:01,098 --> 00:03:02,599 - Oh, I'm half-convinced already. 9 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:04,643 But why did you decide to change your profession? 10 00:03:04,643 --> 00:03:05,560 - I'm not really certain. 11 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,062 Of course, it's true that my old life 12 00:03:07,062 --> 00:03:09,856 was dreadfully exhausting, but I always enjoyed myself. 13 00:03:09,856 --> 00:03:11,525 - Well, they say a change is as good as a rest. 14 00:03:11,525 --> 00:03:12,359 Do you agree? 15 00:03:12,359 --> 00:03:13,151 - Yes, that's quite true. 16 00:03:13,151 --> 00:03:14,611 And I believe one should be prepared 17 00:03:14,611 --> 00:03:16,697 to face new experiences whenever destiny offers them. 18 00:03:16,697 --> 00:03:19,032 - So this is just a passing fancy. 19 00:03:19,032 --> 00:03:21,034 - Everything's a passing fancy, you know. 20 00:03:21,034 --> 00:03:22,619 The important thing is for an experience 21 00:03:22,619 --> 00:03:23,995 to have a creative value. 22 00:03:23,995 --> 00:03:25,455 - Couldn't too much experience damage 23 00:03:25,455 --> 00:03:26,623 your creative capacity? 24 00:03:26,623 --> 00:03:28,834 - No, I think it gets deeper and wider. 25 00:03:28,834 --> 00:03:30,210 - Oh, that certainly makes sense. (chuckles) 26 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:31,086 - (chuckles) I hope you're thinking 27 00:03:31,086 --> 00:03:33,588 of the same kind of experience as I am. 28 00:03:33,588 --> 00:03:35,799 - But surely the range that a nightclub has to offer 29 00:03:35,799 --> 00:03:37,509 is very limited, isn't it? 30 00:03:37,551 --> 00:03:39,386 - On the contrary, it's vast. 31 00:03:39,386 --> 00:03:41,054 You see, for example, 32 00:03:41,054 --> 00:03:43,932 when a striptease artiste is undressing physically, 33 00:03:43,932 --> 00:03:46,810 she's making the spectator undress morally. 34 00:03:46,810 --> 00:03:49,646 The situation is the opposite of what everyone thinks. 35 00:03:49,646 --> 00:03:50,981 It's not the girl on the stage 36 00:03:50,981 --> 00:03:53,608 who's the degrading spectacle, it's the audience. 37 00:03:53,608 --> 00:03:54,484 Wouldn't you agree? 38 00:03:54,484 --> 00:03:55,694 - That's a very interesting theory. 39 00:03:55,694 --> 00:03:56,653 Can you clarify it? 40 00:03:56,653 --> 00:03:58,071 - Do you really not understand? 41 00:03:58,071 --> 00:04:00,490 - Well, the audience pays for their entertainment, after all. 42 00:04:00,490 --> 00:04:03,201 Don't you think they're entitled to it? 43 00:04:03,201 --> 00:04:05,954 - Not all of them, just some. 44 00:04:05,954 --> 00:04:08,123 You see, there's a violent, sadistic element in many 45 00:04:08,123 --> 00:04:10,459 of the spectators that a striptease artiste is 46 00:04:10,459 --> 00:04:12,586 perfectly entitled to punish with her body... 47 00:04:12,586 --> 00:04:15,213 - Sort of law of the jungle, right here in the city. 48 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:17,591 Is that it? - The two masochists said, 49 00:04:17,591 --> 00:04:20,218 "If you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours." 50 00:04:20,218 --> 00:04:22,429 But I can give you a better example from my travels. 51 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:24,473 (Chinese-like music) 52 00:04:24,473 --> 00:04:25,932 Do you know Hong Kong? 53 00:04:25,932 --> 00:04:27,058 I've just come from there. 54 00:04:27,058 --> 00:04:29,144 It's a crazy city. 55 00:04:29,144 --> 00:04:31,021 The British still play it being colonialists, 56 00:04:31,021 --> 00:04:34,483 and the Chinese communists play it being capitalists. 57 00:04:34,483 --> 00:04:37,778 And women of all races play even stranger games. 58 00:04:37,778 --> 00:04:39,696 And if they don't give you a big hand, 59 00:04:39,696 --> 00:04:41,364 they may well give you the clap. 60 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:45,535 But not my friend Susie Atwell. 61 00:04:45,535 --> 00:04:46,870 Have you heard of her? 62 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:48,830 She's famous in the Far East. 63 00:04:48,830 --> 00:04:50,624 She works in a ping pong club. 64 00:04:52,042 --> 00:04:54,211 - [Interviewer] They don't seem very good players to me. 65 00:04:54,211 --> 00:04:55,253 - [Interviewee] Oh, they're not. 66 00:04:55,253 --> 00:04:58,465 They're just a pretext to bring on Suzy's act. 67 00:04:58,465 --> 00:05:01,051 (upbeat music) 68 00:05:36,670 --> 00:05:39,422 (funky, upbeat music) 69 00:06:49,826 --> 00:06:51,244 You can see why this club is known 70 00:06:51,244 --> 00:06:53,204 as the ping pong paradise. 71 00:06:53,204 --> 00:06:54,539 - [Interviewer] You said it. 72 00:06:54,539 --> 00:06:57,709 But what will happen if they decide to take up basketball? 73 00:06:57,709 --> 00:07:00,795 (both laugh) (music continues) 74 00:07:31,910 --> 00:07:33,703 Times have changed. 75 00:07:33,703 --> 00:07:35,080 So have the audiences. 76 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,582 I'll try to explain what's happened. 77 00:07:39,876 --> 00:07:42,879 A striptease isn't enough for the audiences nowadays. 78 00:07:45,298 --> 00:07:47,133 They want something more violent. 79 00:07:48,343 --> 00:07:49,886 In order to make an impression today, 80 00:07:49,886 --> 00:07:52,180 the artiste has to take advantage of the oldest trick 81 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:54,432 in the book: exploiting her sex. 82 00:07:54,432 --> 00:07:55,392 - Thank you. 83 00:07:57,727 --> 00:07:59,229 - And here's to it. - You said it. 84 00:08:00,689 --> 00:08:02,148 - In Greek comedies, 85 00:08:02,148 --> 00:08:05,110 the actors used to wear high boots and masks 86 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:07,153 and long cloaks and everything, but everything 87 00:08:07,153 --> 00:08:10,281 was exaggerated to emphasize the sexual aspect. 88 00:08:10,281 --> 00:08:12,117 - Aren't you exaggerating right now? 89 00:08:12,117 --> 00:08:14,119 - And what about their tragedies? 90 00:08:14,119 --> 00:08:15,870 They're full of rape, incest, 91 00:08:15,870 --> 00:08:18,873 and every kind of adultery, especially with animals. 92 00:08:21,001 --> 00:08:22,919 And after the Greeks, what next? 93 00:08:22,919 --> 00:08:24,921 More sex. The Bible is full of it. 94 00:08:24,921 --> 00:08:26,589 Have you ever read anything as sexy 95 00:08:26,589 --> 00:08:30,135 as the Song of Solomon, or the story of Herod and Salome, 96 00:08:30,135 --> 00:08:32,679 or David and Jonathan, or the Queen of Sheba? 97 00:08:32,721 --> 00:08:35,932 And don't forget the woman taken into adultery. (chuckles) 98 00:08:38,560 --> 00:08:40,228 Every writer uses sex. 99 00:08:41,396 --> 00:08:44,149 Chaucer and Shakespeare and all the great poets 100 00:08:44,149 --> 00:08:45,316 of the Restoration. 101 00:08:45,316 --> 00:08:47,986 Not to mention Byron, Shelley and Keats. 102 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:52,365 Today, people want it more direct, 103 00:08:52,365 --> 00:08:54,617 but the underlying motive is the same. 104 00:08:54,617 --> 00:08:59,622 (upbeat, percussive music) (wind blowing) 105 00:09:07,088 --> 00:09:09,674 Even the religious ceremonies of ancient peoples 106 00:09:09,674 --> 00:09:12,469 in all times have a sexual background. 107 00:09:12,469 --> 00:09:17,474 (upbeat music) (wind whooshing) 108 00:10:33,091 --> 00:10:35,718 (funky music) 109 00:10:45,019 --> 00:10:47,438 Ancient rites have always been danced 110 00:10:47,438 --> 00:10:50,400 in what people would call an outrageously sensual way. 111 00:10:51,609 --> 00:10:55,238 My friend Jean Wawal is in Dallas, Texas, right now, 112 00:10:55,238 --> 00:10:58,741 performing an elaborate tribal dance of the Cherokee Indians 113 00:10:58,741 --> 00:11:00,910 with a particularly interesting symbol: 114 00:11:00,910 --> 00:11:04,289 the wahkunsa, traditional Cherokee boots. 115 00:11:05,915 --> 00:11:08,668 (upbeat music continues) 116 00:13:31,477 --> 00:13:32,937 The audience doesn't realize 117 00:13:32,937 --> 00:13:35,523 that the fur boots are meant to tease. 118 00:13:35,523 --> 00:13:37,608 They're the way the artiste wields her power 119 00:13:37,608 --> 00:13:39,277 over the public. 120 00:13:39,277 --> 00:13:42,780 She strips down to her booties but leaves them on, 121 00:13:42,780 --> 00:13:45,491 and the insatiable unconscious curiosity 122 00:13:45,491 --> 00:13:48,161 of the spectators focuses on her feet, 123 00:13:48,161 --> 00:13:50,204 the only thing they can't see. 124 00:13:50,204 --> 00:13:52,957 (exciting music) 125 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:21,194 (audience clapping) 126 00:14:33,581 --> 00:14:35,750 What I want to say is that there's always an element 127 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:37,418 of ritual in every performance that is 128 00:14:37,418 --> 00:14:40,421 in any way connected with the representations of sex. 129 00:14:40,421 --> 00:14:42,298 And this is because the sex act itself follows 130 00:14:42,298 --> 00:14:45,760 a precise ritualistic pattern, a ritual with its roots lost 131 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,513 in the dawn of time, yet always the same, 132 00:14:48,513 --> 00:14:50,681 although the forms vary as we all realize, 133 00:14:50,681 --> 00:14:53,059 if we think of our personal behavior. 134 00:14:53,059 --> 00:14:55,520 Let me give you a common example. 135 00:14:58,272 --> 00:15:03,277 (upbeat music) (wind whooshing) 136 00:15:26,384 --> 00:15:30,346 A huge seaside city, famous for the variety of fun and games 137 00:15:30,346 --> 00:15:34,267 it can provide, among which are these floating love-nests, 138 00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:37,019 conceived, constructed, marketed, 139 00:15:37,019 --> 00:15:39,439 and manned for no other purpose. 140 00:15:41,065 --> 00:15:43,484 And here, not even the act of seduction can escape the sense 141 00:15:43,484 --> 00:15:46,028 of a final ritual, which is almost identical 142 00:15:46,028 --> 00:15:49,574 with the one followed by our ancient forebears, the apes. 143 00:15:49,574 --> 00:15:52,160 (upbeat music) 144 00:16:06,132 --> 00:16:09,302 The female finds some subtle way to indicate 145 00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:12,263 her availability, thus drawing the attention 146 00:16:12,263 --> 00:16:16,184 of the male, whose mind may temporarily be on other things. 147 00:16:29,822 --> 00:16:32,950 The male begins to carry out the preliminary rites: 148 00:16:32,950 --> 00:16:36,370 the delousing, in the case of monkeys, that is. 149 00:16:36,370 --> 00:16:38,789 We have more refined techniques, 150 00:16:38,789 --> 00:16:40,625 even if they're all the same in the end. 151 00:16:53,095 --> 00:16:54,680 And we soon reach the final stage, 152 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,892 the same for mice or monkeys or men. 153 00:16:58,768 --> 00:17:01,354 (upbeat music) 154 00:17:49,735 --> 00:17:52,280 Now, let's get back to show business and its sensual 155 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,366 implications, which are always a constant part of it, 156 00:17:55,366 --> 00:17:58,494 which is only logical, if we think of it as a fantasy 157 00:17:58,494 --> 00:18:02,540 representation of reality with sex as a necessary component. 158 00:18:05,001 --> 00:18:07,587 (upbeat music) 159 00:18:30,735 --> 00:18:33,529 The so-called classical specialty of the Middle East, 160 00:18:33,529 --> 00:18:36,741 of, say, Damascus or Istanbul or Cairo, 161 00:18:36,741 --> 00:18:38,701 is the famous belly dance. 162 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:43,581 (exciting music) 163 00:18:46,917 --> 00:18:49,545 Why they call it the belly dance, I can't imagine. 164 00:18:49,545 --> 00:18:51,589 The belly is only part of it. 165 00:18:51,589 --> 00:18:55,509 The dancer writhes and wiggles and shakes and twists, 166 00:18:55,509 --> 00:18:59,347 and attention focuses less on her belly than on her boobs. 167 00:19:01,182 --> 00:19:02,516 One of the greatest performers 168 00:19:02,516 --> 00:19:04,727 of this dance is my friend, Aisha. 169 00:19:07,521 --> 00:19:10,107 (upbeat music) 170 00:21:00,509 --> 00:21:01,927 Aisha is very original 171 00:21:01,927 --> 00:21:04,638 because she has brought a modern sexy quality to a dance 172 00:21:04,638 --> 00:21:08,142 which, even though it is based on fundamental sexual motifs, 173 00:21:08,142 --> 00:21:10,686 is in its original form extremely chaste. 174 00:21:10,686 --> 00:21:12,897 The result is a much higher level of excitement, 175 00:21:12,897 --> 00:21:15,691 sexual excitement, that is, and therefore a greater degree 176 00:21:15,691 --> 00:21:17,902 of aggression towards the audience. 177 00:21:17,902 --> 00:21:20,488 (upbeat music) 178 00:22:07,243 --> 00:22:08,786 Did you see what I mean? 179 00:22:08,786 --> 00:22:10,579 - [Interviewer] Now I understand what you said 180 00:22:10,579 --> 00:22:12,998 about the artiste undressing physically, 181 00:22:12,998 --> 00:22:16,585 but stripping the spectators bare mentally. 182 00:22:16,585 --> 00:22:19,171 (upbeat music) 183 00:22:37,523 --> 00:22:39,525 I find this reaction astonishing. 184 00:22:39,525 --> 00:22:40,609 You mean... 185 00:22:43,445 --> 00:22:45,573 Because they're homosexual? - Right! 186 00:22:45,573 --> 00:22:47,157 - Don't forget 187 00:22:47,157 --> 00:22:50,619 that this dance is a spiritual exaltation of the ass. 188 00:22:50,619 --> 00:22:53,706 - That makes hash of the theory of contrasting folds. 189 00:22:53,706 --> 00:22:56,542 - No, no, there are no absolute values in nature, 190 00:22:56,542 --> 00:23:00,254 female or male. 191 00:23:01,130 --> 00:23:02,256 - I think this interview is turning 192 00:23:02,256 --> 00:23:03,799 into some kind of anthropology lesson. 193 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:04,800 - (indistinct) 194 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,886 I was just trying to outline the consequences 195 00:23:06,886 --> 00:23:09,805 of my theory on the effect of sensual arousal 196 00:23:09,805 --> 00:23:12,266 as the essentially intellectual, 197 00:23:13,934 --> 00:23:16,270 which allows the artiste to assert her influence 198 00:23:16,270 --> 00:23:18,981 on the public, whatever their specific sexual inclinations 199 00:23:18,981 --> 00:23:19,815 happen to be. 200 00:23:19,815 --> 00:23:21,609 - Could you give us a different example? 201 00:23:21,650 --> 00:23:23,652 - Of course. You only have to take a look 202 00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:26,238 at Northern Europe, at the so-called vice capitals. 203 00:23:29,575 --> 00:23:32,119 (upbeat music) 204 00:23:52,348 --> 00:23:55,059 (gentle guitar music) 205 00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:31,261 (slow, intense music) 206 00:26:24,708 --> 00:26:27,252 The Nordic races, with their deep-seated fear 207 00:26:27,252 --> 00:26:30,047 of sex instilled by religious traditions 208 00:26:30,047 --> 00:26:32,049 and their liberal behavior resulting 209 00:26:32,049 --> 00:26:35,719 from political choice based on ancestral individualism, 210 00:26:35,719 --> 00:26:38,555 are particularly subject to an extremely cerebral type 211 00:26:38,555 --> 00:26:39,848 of stimulation. 212 00:26:39,890 --> 00:26:42,434 And an essential element in this excitability 213 00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:45,270 is the contrast of the normal and the abnormal. 214 00:26:46,188 --> 00:26:47,147 - [Interviewer] Then according to you, 215 00:26:47,147 --> 00:26:48,982 they're not voyeurs but philosophers. 216 00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:50,901 - [Interviewee] Call them what you like, but remember 217 00:26:50,901 --> 00:26:53,362 that there is nothing stupider than feeling superior 218 00:26:53,362 --> 00:26:56,448 to someone who behaves differently just because he does so. 219 00:26:56,490 --> 00:26:59,034 (upbeat music) 220 00:27:58,719 --> 00:28:00,888 You must have noticed that the most excited spectators 221 00:28:00,888 --> 00:28:03,473 were the women, the very ones who ought to have been disgusted. 222 00:28:03,473 --> 00:28:05,434 - Perhaps their curiosity was aroused. 223 00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:08,187 - No, curiosity has nothing whatsoever to do with it, 224 00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:10,314 even though curiosity is often given 225 00:28:10,314 --> 00:28:12,858 as the motive for carrying out certain experiments 226 00:28:12,858 --> 00:28:15,986 on sexual activities and behaviorism. 227 00:28:15,986 --> 00:28:18,155 - Then you think that what happens in an elegant nightclub 228 00:28:18,155 --> 00:28:20,324 could also happen in a sideshow tent. 229 00:28:20,324 --> 00:28:21,825 - Well, I guess it could 230 00:28:21,825 --> 00:28:24,578 with inevitable variations, of course. 231 00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:26,997 - A more rough and ready show, but essentially the same. 232 00:28:26,997 --> 00:28:29,750 - Yes, one of the components of this show 233 00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:31,376 would naturally be more in evidence. 234 00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:32,377 Which one? 235 00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:34,963 The violence would appear in a much less subtle form. 236 00:28:38,091 --> 00:28:40,677 (upbeat music) 237 00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:47,309 (speaking in foreign language) 238 00:29:01,073 --> 00:29:03,659 (upbeat music) 239 00:29:16,380 --> 00:29:19,007 - In a country where the customs are so free and easy, 240 00:29:19,007 --> 00:29:21,343 the same goes for costumes. 241 00:29:21,343 --> 00:29:24,179 Bras and panties have gone the way of the hoop skirt, 242 00:29:24,179 --> 00:29:26,098 and if a show is going to be exciting, 243 00:29:26,098 --> 00:29:28,183 it has to come on strong. 244 00:29:39,361 --> 00:29:42,155 (upbeat music) 245 00:29:45,367 --> 00:29:49,288 (speaking in foreign language) 246 00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:25,324 (audience clapping) 247 00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,135 - [Interviewer] But why the mud? 248 00:31:27,135 --> 00:31:28,929 - [Interviewee] It's another sensual element. 249 00:31:28,929 --> 00:31:30,972 Sadomasochistic, in this case. 250 00:31:30,972 --> 00:31:33,016 It satisfies the unconscious desire 251 00:31:33,016 --> 00:31:35,811 in everyone to dominate our partners up to the point 252 00:31:35,811 --> 00:31:37,229 of defiling them. 253 00:31:39,481 --> 00:31:42,401 (upbeat music) (audience shouting) 254 00:34:08,964 --> 00:34:11,967 (upbeat rock music) 255 00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:55,338 To state it in mathematical terms, 256 00:36:55,338 --> 00:36:57,507 even if you alter the order of the factors, 257 00:36:57,507 --> 00:36:59,426 the product remains identical. 258 00:36:59,426 --> 00:37:00,510 Isn't that so? 259 00:37:00,510 --> 00:37:02,429 - Yes, but the factors are always women. 260 00:37:14,858 --> 00:37:18,027 - My most famous number was, to all outward appearances, 261 00:37:18,027 --> 00:37:21,823 a tribute to male beauty in the sense of classical statuary 262 00:37:21,823 --> 00:37:23,742 reproduced in living flesh. 263 00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:27,746 But below the surface, lay the usual sadomasochistic theme: 264 00:37:27,746 --> 00:37:30,915 the humiliation of the male, to whose outward appearance 265 00:37:30,915 --> 00:37:33,585 there is hardly a corresponding degree of, shall we say, 266 00:37:33,585 --> 00:37:37,338 efficiency, and humiliation for the female, who with 267 00:37:37,338 --> 00:37:41,342 useless determination, attempts to stimulate this efficiency 268 00:37:41,342 --> 00:37:42,343 but in vain. 269 00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:46,723 She offers herself to him in every possible way. 270 00:37:46,723 --> 00:37:49,058 And what does he do? Nothing. 271 00:37:49,058 --> 00:37:52,228 She dances, she writhes, she grows insistent. 272 00:37:52,228 --> 00:37:53,229 And what does he do? 273 00:37:53,229 --> 00:37:54,397 - [Interviewer] He's a hard case. 274 00:37:54,397 --> 00:37:56,357 I don't know if "hard" is the right word. 275 00:37:56,357 --> 00:37:57,942 (both laughing) 276 00:38:02,322 --> 00:38:04,949 (upbeat music) 277 00:41:44,085 --> 00:41:46,838 Oh, what's happening? 278 00:41:46,838 --> 00:41:48,297 Is everything there? 279 00:41:48,297 --> 00:41:49,799 All right, so long. 280 00:41:50,717 --> 00:41:52,969 Oh, I suppose you still have a lot of questions to ask me. 281 00:41:52,969 --> 00:41:54,887 - When you were performing that number, 282 00:41:55,722 --> 00:41:56,973 didn't you feel humiliated? 283 00:41:56,973 --> 00:41:57,807 - Not in the slightest. 284 00:41:57,807 --> 00:41:59,267 You see, I know that if I really tried, 285 00:41:59,267 --> 00:42:01,686 I could get a rise out of a piece of cold macaroni. 286 00:42:03,229 --> 00:42:04,480 We just wanted to give a little comfort 287 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,648 to anyone who can't get it up. 288 00:42:05,648 --> 00:42:06,733 Let's hear more about violence, can we? 289 00:42:06,733 --> 00:42:07,734 - The more skillful the artiste, 290 00:42:07,734 --> 00:42:09,777 the greater the sensation she arouses. 291 00:42:10,945 --> 00:42:12,280 - But art means communication. 292 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,990 - Of course, it does. 293 00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:15,825 - Isn't there a contradiction in what you're saying? 294 00:42:15,825 --> 00:42:16,784 - Do you think so? 295 00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:19,120 I'll try and explain to you. 296 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,914 You see, beauty doesn't really arouse any emotions. 297 00:42:21,914 --> 00:42:23,624 - I don't agree. 298 00:42:23,624 --> 00:42:25,084 - No, it's true. 299 00:42:25,084 --> 00:42:26,210 In other words, while beauty 300 00:42:26,210 --> 00:42:28,921 in itself can undoubtedly arouse a variety of sensations of 301 00:42:28,921 --> 00:42:31,299 a certain interest, it fails to excite 302 00:42:31,299 --> 00:42:32,592 the same profound reactions 303 00:42:32,592 --> 00:42:34,719 that are the essential object of artistic expressions. 304 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,636 - Are violent sensations indispensable? 305 00:42:35,636 --> 00:42:37,388 - Oh, I think they're underlying everything, 306 00:42:37,388 --> 00:42:38,639 the whole basis. 307 00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:40,600 Of course, a beautiful sight can also produce 308 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,393 certain agreeable reactions. 309 00:42:43,686 --> 00:42:46,272 (upbeat music) 310 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,733 Take a closer look and you'll see this is just, well, 311 00:43:30,733 --> 00:43:33,653 to put it frankly, it's lifeless. 312 00:43:33,653 --> 00:43:35,571 It just doesn't turn you on. 313 00:43:35,571 --> 00:43:38,866 Like those floor shows they tell you are really wild. 314 00:43:38,866 --> 00:43:40,785 Then you find out they're about as wild as life 315 00:43:40,785 --> 00:43:44,163 in a monastery, or less. 316 00:43:44,163 --> 00:43:46,749 (upbeat music) 317 00:43:50,169 --> 00:43:54,674 (dancers singing in foreign language) 318 00:44:34,755 --> 00:44:36,716 Performances of this type belong to the ancient history 319 00:44:36,716 --> 00:44:39,177 of sex shows by now, just as Paris has become 320 00:44:39,177 --> 00:44:42,555 the world capital of old-fashioned conformity. 321 00:44:42,555 --> 00:44:44,807 The modern spectator demands something different. 322 00:44:44,807 --> 00:44:47,310 And it is up to us in our roles as artistes and performers 323 00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:48,895 to satisfy this. 324 00:44:48,895 --> 00:44:50,646 I'm always ready to do my duty. 325 00:44:50,646 --> 00:44:52,773 That's what it means to be a professional. 326 00:44:56,986 --> 00:44:59,572 (smooth, lounge-y music) 327 00:45:34,148 --> 00:45:35,524 For one day only, 328 00:45:35,524 --> 00:45:38,319 Omar, the world's greatest lover. 329 00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:41,322 This is the kind of show that will arouse today's audiences. 330 00:45:42,823 --> 00:45:44,492 He's a rather brutal lover. 331 00:45:44,492 --> 00:45:46,452 A great lover can't be anything else. 332 00:45:46,452 --> 00:45:49,247 He doesn't have time to waste on love-play. 333 00:45:51,332 --> 00:45:53,918 (music continues) 334 00:47:58,459 --> 00:48:01,212 (music builds in intensity) 335 00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:13,993 - [Interviewer] I think that's cheating. 336 00:49:13,993 --> 00:49:15,494 It means the great lover is no better 337 00:49:15,494 --> 00:49:16,871 than the living statue. 338 00:49:16,871 --> 00:49:18,497 - [Interviewee] Well, you see, he needs to be provoked by 339 00:49:18,497 --> 00:49:21,250 some sort of insult to his professional dignity. 340 00:49:28,174 --> 00:49:30,759 (music continues) 341 00:51:26,375 --> 00:51:29,378 (audience clapping) 342 00:51:33,549 --> 00:51:37,344 The show is over. The performance is finished, and behold 343 00:51:37,344 --> 00:51:40,055 the happy couple who will soon be enjoying 344 00:51:40,055 --> 00:51:43,142 its liberating effects in the comfort of their own bed. 345 00:51:44,643 --> 00:51:46,312 And I'm sure they're not the only ones 346 00:51:46,312 --> 00:51:47,521 who are feeling that way. 347 00:51:47,521 --> 00:51:50,024 There must be many of you out there who have noticed 348 00:51:50,024 --> 00:51:53,777 the liberating effects of Omar's performance. 349 00:51:53,777 --> 00:51:56,947 It's a kind of catharsis in which the artist functions more 350 00:51:56,947 --> 00:52:00,701 successfully than any doctor or psychologist, to free us 351 00:52:00,701 --> 00:52:03,787 from those innumerable sexual taboos, which centuries 352 00:52:03,787 --> 00:52:08,459 of sexual fear have created between men and women. 353 00:52:18,010 --> 00:52:20,804 These taboos have been branded as being beyond hope 354 00:52:20,804 --> 00:52:21,972 of redemption. 355 00:52:21,972 --> 00:52:24,933 Practically all sexual manifestations, to the point where 356 00:52:24,933 --> 00:52:27,311 we connect the concept of punishment 357 00:52:27,311 --> 00:52:28,937 with that of sexual gratification. 358 00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:33,317 Famous spoilsports like Luther and Calvin spread this 359 00:52:33,317 --> 00:52:36,028 ridiculous sense of guilt through half the peoples 360 00:52:36,028 --> 00:52:38,697 of central Europe, favoring the birth of sadism 361 00:52:38,697 --> 00:52:40,240 and masochism. 362 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:42,910 It is due to them that certain strange manifestations 363 00:52:42,910 --> 00:52:45,913 of sexual activity originated in the shadows 364 00:52:45,913 --> 00:52:47,331 of Gothic spires. 365 00:52:47,331 --> 00:52:49,875 (upbeat music) 366 00:52:51,877 --> 00:52:56,882 (whip thudding) (upbeat music) 367 00:54:34,188 --> 00:54:37,357 (upbeat music) 368 00:55:17,981 --> 00:55:20,859 One good turn deserves another, apparently. 369 00:55:20,859 --> 00:55:24,488 Naturally, it's a matter of sensual equality, 370 00:55:24,488 --> 00:55:27,366 but he gets an added refined touch. 371 00:55:27,366 --> 00:55:30,285 (speaking foreign language) The saying goes. 372 00:55:30,285 --> 00:55:33,914 "We're born in excrement, and we often die in it, too." 373 00:55:33,914 --> 00:55:37,459 But some people like to live in it and to love in it. 374 00:55:37,459 --> 00:55:39,169 - [Interviewer] How awful. 375 00:55:39,169 --> 00:55:40,504 - [Interviewee] It's a question of taste. 376 00:55:49,429 --> 00:55:51,431 And he seems to like the taste. 377 00:55:51,431 --> 00:55:53,725 I suppose there are gourmets in this field, 378 00:55:53,725 --> 00:55:56,186 just like the ones who judge meat by the way an animal 379 00:55:56,186 --> 00:55:57,104 was fed. 380 00:55:57,104 --> 00:55:59,940 Who knows what the poor girl had to eat. 381 00:55:59,940 --> 00:56:02,526 (upbeat music) 382 00:57:25,817 --> 00:57:28,528 (upbeat music) 383 00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:21,248 And now the cycle is complete. German efficiency, naturally. 384 00:58:23,709 --> 00:58:26,294 (upbeat music) 385 00:59:15,844 --> 00:59:19,848 (psychedelic music) 386 00:59:27,606 --> 00:59:31,401 And since the German soul is fundamentally romantic, 387 00:59:31,401 --> 00:59:33,945 this is the joyful climax. 388 00:59:33,945 --> 00:59:36,823 Obviously, it's more exciting to be whipped by a gladiator 389 00:59:36,823 --> 00:59:39,993 in a helmet than by a bookkeeper with adenoids. 390 00:59:49,586 --> 00:59:52,172 (upbeat music) 391 01:00:50,772 --> 01:00:54,109 (psychedelic music) 392 01:01:02,784 --> 01:01:04,870 So much for the romantic soul. 393 01:01:08,206 --> 01:01:10,917 Now let's turn to something classic. 394 01:01:13,295 --> 01:01:15,881 (upbeat music) 395 01:01:35,901 --> 01:01:39,321 The island of Delos, seat of the Attic confederation 396 01:01:39,321 --> 01:01:42,532 four centuries BC, has a regular forest 397 01:01:42,532 --> 01:01:46,328 of objects like this. Made of marble, naturally, 398 01:01:46,328 --> 01:01:48,496 which lends its own special charm. 399 01:01:50,123 --> 01:01:53,335 Here we have to manage with expanded polystyrene. 400 01:01:54,669 --> 01:01:56,713 Classical scholars see these monuments 401 01:01:56,713 --> 01:02:00,050 as symbols of fertility and abundance. 402 01:02:00,050 --> 01:02:03,386 To me, they just symbolize the secret dreams of men 403 01:02:03,386 --> 01:02:04,888 and women. 404 01:02:07,057 --> 01:02:10,018 You know, Freud wrote a whole book on penis envy. 405 01:02:12,938 --> 01:02:15,523 (upbeat music) 406 01:04:06,801 --> 01:04:09,179 It's a cycle that's being constantly repeated over 407 01:04:09,179 --> 01:04:11,556 and over again in the history of humanity. 408 01:04:11,556 --> 01:04:13,933 After every period of stern sexual repression, 409 01:04:13,933 --> 01:04:16,061 there is a period of complete sexual freedom. 410 01:04:16,061 --> 01:04:18,480 - Akind of historical about-face, hmm? 411 01:04:19,481 --> 01:04:20,940 - Yes, you could call it that. 412 01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:22,192 (both laughs) 413 01:04:22,192 --> 01:04:23,360 In fact, that's a very good way 414 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:24,819 of describing the phenomenon. 415 01:04:24,819 --> 01:04:26,404 - So at the present time, we're in a period when 416 01:04:26,404 --> 01:04:27,989 the time is telling. - That's very obvious. 417 01:04:27,989 --> 01:04:31,117 (upbeat music) 418 01:04:31,117 --> 01:04:32,827 Look at the Americans. 419 01:04:32,827 --> 01:04:34,120 They still haven't gotten away 420 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,208 from the Pilgrim Fathers Puritanism, and they suffer for it. 421 01:04:38,208 --> 01:04:39,834 So at home they're puritans, 422 01:04:39,834 --> 01:04:43,171 but on vacation they let it all hang loose. 423 01:04:43,171 --> 01:04:46,007 - [Interviewer] They don't look all that loose to me. 424 01:04:46,007 --> 01:04:47,801 The only thing they seem to be able to show is 425 01:04:47,801 --> 01:04:50,470 that Americans have no sense of the ridiculous. 426 01:04:54,015 --> 01:04:55,850 - [Interviewee] They do the best they can. 427 01:04:55,850 --> 01:04:58,645 Old ladies dance with Black men for a thrill, 428 01:04:58,645 --> 01:05:01,189 and retired bank clerks eye the native girls 429 01:05:01,189 --> 01:05:03,108 because that's all they're capable of. 430 01:05:03,108 --> 01:05:05,985 And for people married to typewriters and adding machines, 431 01:05:05,985 --> 01:05:08,321 that's not bad. (both laughs) 432 01:05:08,321 --> 01:05:10,865 (upbeat music) 433 01:05:37,350 --> 01:05:40,228 (dancers chanting) 434 01:07:03,561 --> 01:07:05,813 The Spanish, on the other hand, reacted 435 01:07:05,813 --> 01:07:08,983 to the counter-Reformation and to dictatorship 436 01:07:08,983 --> 01:07:11,778 by demystifying their traditional heroes. 437 01:07:11,778 --> 01:07:14,364 (upbeat music) 438 01:09:34,629 --> 01:09:37,090 The way Zorro treated the Governor of California 439 01:09:37,090 --> 01:09:38,675 was slightly different. 440 01:09:39,592 --> 01:09:42,428 But nowadays, this is more satisfying, 441 01:09:42,428 --> 01:09:44,013 and who wouldn't prefer it? 442 01:09:47,058 --> 01:09:49,727 A modern day duel for young and old. 443 01:09:59,570 --> 01:10:02,156 (upbeat music) 444 01:13:33,117 --> 01:13:35,202 (audience clapping) 445 01:13:35,202 --> 01:13:39,707 The duel has finished, as all duels should, in a dead heat. 446 01:13:41,042 --> 01:13:42,585 Both of them are winners. 447 01:13:47,924 --> 01:13:49,884 I found this dress in Bombay. 448 01:13:49,884 --> 01:13:51,636 Do you like it? - It's sexy. 449 01:13:52,637 --> 01:13:54,931 Let me zip you up. There. 450 01:13:57,350 --> 01:14:00,061 I must say it looks much better on you than on me. 451 01:14:00,061 --> 01:14:01,604 Maybe it's the way we contrast. 452 01:14:01,604 --> 01:14:03,064 - Thank you. - Look. 453 01:14:03,940 --> 01:14:06,192 - Well, let's say I'm more interested in your theory 454 01:14:06,192 --> 01:14:08,194 about demystification. 455 01:14:08,194 --> 01:14:11,489 - Demystification isn't the right word. 456 01:14:11,489 --> 01:14:13,157 The sexual symbol is pure-- 457 01:14:13,157 --> 01:14:14,742 - Like Snow White. 458 01:14:14,742 --> 01:14:17,370 - And the Seven Dwarves, only given the hypocrisy 459 01:14:17,370 --> 01:14:19,914 of the times, that symbol was well-hidden. 460 01:14:19,914 --> 01:14:21,832 Nowadays, it's just a matter of bringing it out 461 01:14:21,832 --> 01:14:23,000 into the open. 462 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,212 It's more a question of clarification than demystification. 463 01:14:26,212 --> 01:14:28,631 - Sexual symbolism is present day terminology. 464 01:14:28,631 --> 01:14:30,633 - We need only to be more explicit. 465 01:14:31,717 --> 01:14:34,303 (upbeat music) 466 01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:49,443 Paris. Paris, France. My friend Renee 467 01:14:49,443 --> 01:14:52,029 was working there, wildly successful 468 01:14:52,029 --> 01:14:54,365 with her version of "Swan Lake." 469 01:14:54,365 --> 01:14:55,449 No need to remind you 470 01:14:55,449 --> 01:14:58,077 that the swan has always been a sexual symbol, 471 01:14:58,077 --> 01:15:00,496 but this is really something more explicit. 472 01:15:00,496 --> 01:15:03,499 Renee leaves out nothing in her own interpretation of 473 01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:05,167 the beauty and the beast. 474 01:15:07,294 --> 01:15:10,006 (upbeat music) 475 01:17:29,645 --> 01:17:32,648 (audience clapping) 476 01:17:41,782 --> 01:17:44,535 (exciting music) 477 01:18:58,609 --> 01:19:02,321 (audience clapping) 478 01:19:02,321 --> 01:19:05,866 Explicit. I think that's the word for it. 479 01:19:05,866 --> 01:19:08,661 And as you can see, the members of the audience seem happy 480 01:19:08,661 --> 01:19:10,955 to find something explicit. 481 01:19:14,250 --> 01:19:16,835 (upbeat music) 482 01:19:34,770 --> 01:19:36,730 - What you mean is there's a one-way interpretation 483 01:19:36,730 --> 01:19:37,606 for everything. 484 01:19:37,606 --> 01:19:41,443 Yes, it seems obvious to me. Any literary work, 485 01:19:41,443 --> 01:19:44,071 no matter how innocent it seems, 486 01:19:44,071 --> 01:19:47,658 conceals profound and complex sexual symbolism, 487 01:19:47,658 --> 01:19:49,201 even when it's not evident at first sight. 488 01:19:49,201 --> 01:19:51,745 - You mean including the Constitution of the United States? 489 01:19:53,289 --> 01:19:55,708 - Of course, but I'm certainly not going to comment 490 01:19:55,708 --> 01:19:57,293 on that into a tape recorder. 491 01:19:57,293 --> 01:19:59,920 (both laughing) 492 01:20:01,130 --> 01:20:03,674 (upbeat music) 493 01:20:16,437 --> 01:20:17,980 Well, I mean, anyway, 494 01:20:17,980 --> 01:20:22,651 the USA is still very backward in this sector. 495 01:20:22,651 --> 01:20:25,612 Behind the frenzied facade of what passes for the capital 496 01:20:25,612 --> 01:20:29,658 of vice, Las Vegas, there lurks a profound insecurity 497 01:20:29,658 --> 01:20:32,578 handed down from Puritans and Calvinists. 498 01:20:32,578 --> 01:20:33,996 Like this party. 499 01:20:33,996 --> 01:20:37,374 It's trying to be a frenzied orgy, a la punk chic. 500 01:20:37,374 --> 01:20:39,668 But all it is is punk shit, 501 01:20:39,668 --> 01:20:42,046 with its demented fakes that are trying to be some kind 502 01:20:42,046 --> 01:20:44,798 of twisted transsexual Dracula, 503 01:20:44,798 --> 01:20:46,258 or historical symbols 504 01:20:49,803 --> 01:20:51,764 like La Belle Epoque. 505 01:20:51,764 --> 01:20:54,350 (upbeat music) 506 01:22:04,253 --> 01:22:07,005 (exciting music) 507 01:29:09,094 --> 01:29:11,721 - In one final phrase, could you sum up everything 508 01:29:11,721 --> 01:29:13,181 we've been into so far? 509 01:29:13,181 --> 01:29:15,809 - Oh, yes, in the best, best way. 510 01:29:16,810 --> 01:29:19,396 (breezy music) 511 01:33:11,461 --> 01:33:15,090 Actually, the only final comment is so very simple. 512 01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:17,842 Like everyone else, we've had our share of provocation, 513 01:33:17,842 --> 01:33:20,261 and we've had to go along with it. 514 01:33:20,261 --> 01:33:22,472 I really don't think there's anything else to say. 515 01:33:22,472 --> 01:33:23,473 - [Interviewer] No? 516 01:33:25,558 --> 01:33:27,685 - Unless you want me to state the obvious, 517 01:33:28,561 --> 01:33:30,855 but some people certainly won't approve. 518 01:33:30,855 --> 01:33:32,065 But that can't bother us. 519 01:33:32,065 --> 01:33:33,942 - You mean we're victims of our own fate. 520 01:33:33,942 --> 01:33:35,944 - The hypocrites will say that and worse, 521 01:33:35,944 --> 01:33:37,612 but I'll stick to the opinion that any way 522 01:33:37,612 --> 01:33:40,490 of making love is beautiful and true. 523 01:33:40,490 --> 01:33:43,743 (upbeat music) 524 01:34:00,093 --> 01:34:02,345 THE FILMING WITH AJITA WILSON WAS SHOT 525 01:34:02,345 --> 01:34:04,722 AT THE HOLIDAY INN HOTEL OF FIUMICINO ROME 40299

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