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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,567 --> 00:00:05,567 How far back does possible CIA involvement with 2 00:00:05,734 --> 00:00:07,501 drug smuggling go? 3 00:00:07,667 --> 00:00:10,467 I don't know, but if you go back and you look at 4 00:00:10,634 --> 00:00:15,801 the evidence, we were supplying cocaine into the US 5 00:00:15,968 --> 00:00:18,267 to finance the Contras. 6 00:00:18,434 --> 00:00:21,467 And on the return trips, we were bringing weapons. 7 00:00:21,634 --> 00:00:26,701 My friends that were CIA pilots were flying the cocaine 8 00:00:26,868 --> 00:00:30,200 into US military bases. 9 00:00:30,367 --> 00:00:33,767 So is this a systemic corruption? 10 00:00:33,934 --> 00:00:34,801 Yes, sir. 11 00:00:36,868 --> 00:00:38,166 Let's face it. 12 00:00:38,167 --> 00:00:41,000 There are so many government conspiracies, it can be hard to 13 00:00:41,167 --> 00:00:43,467 tell what's real and what's not. 14 00:00:43,634 --> 00:00:45,767 My name is Andrew Bustamante, and I am a former 15 00:00:45,934 --> 00:00:48,667 covert CIA intelligence officer. 16 00:00:48,834 --> 00:00:51,467 And I'm going to pressure test the most sensational, 17 00:00:51,634 --> 00:00:54,767 ripped-from-the-headlines conspiracy theories out there 18 00:00:54,934 --> 00:00:57,067 to help you separate fact from fiction. 19 00:01:08,667 --> 00:01:11,067 Chaos is unfolding in Mexico after the killing of 20 00:01:11,234 --> 00:01:13,701 the country's most powerful cartel leader. 21 00:01:13,868 --> 00:01:15,167 The Mexican army killed the leader 22 00:01:15,334 --> 00:01:17,267 of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel. 23 00:01:17,434 --> 00:01:18,567 You're looking at him here. 24 00:01:18,734 --> 00:01:20,601 February 2026. 25 00:01:20,767 --> 00:01:24,167 The Mexican army takes out El Mencho, and within hours, 26 00:01:24,334 --> 00:01:26,167 violence erupts across the region, 27 00:01:26,334 --> 00:01:28,868 from Puerto Vallarta to Mexico City. 28 00:01:29,033 --> 00:01:30,100 The death of the drug lord 29 00:01:30,267 --> 00:01:32,300 set off several hours of roadblocks. 30 00:01:36,367 --> 00:01:40,000 This was a Mexican military operation, support from CIA, 31 00:01:40,167 --> 00:01:42,868 and it seemed like a pretty massive success, taking out 32 00:01:43,033 --> 00:01:45,567 a cartel leader who was trafficking fentanyl and other 33 00:01:45,734 --> 00:01:48,200 dangerous drugs into the United States. 34 00:01:48,367 --> 00:01:51,601 So why doesn't this moment feel more triumphant? 35 00:01:51,767 --> 00:01:54,667 You can see the incredible deadly power this cartel has 36 00:01:54,834 --> 00:01:56,801 just south of the US border. 37 00:01:56,968 --> 00:01:59,701 How did they get so rich and powerful? 38 00:01:59,868 --> 00:02:02,667 The Jalisco New Generation Cartel has declared that 39 00:02:02,834 --> 00:02:05,100 they're going to be attacking Americans next. 40 00:02:05,267 --> 00:02:07,367 Agents with the US Customs and Border Protection 41 00:02:07,534 --> 00:02:08,868 are on heightened alert, 42 00:02:09,033 --> 00:02:12,167 after new alleged threats from the cartel. 43 00:02:12,334 --> 00:02:15,100 Yes, a major cartel boss is dead. 44 00:02:15,267 --> 00:02:17,701 But the bigger question is, what does that change? 45 00:02:19,067 --> 00:02:21,901 Why are drugs still pouring across our borders? 46 00:02:22,067 --> 00:02:24,100 And why does it feel like no matter how many raids 47 00:02:24,267 --> 00:02:27,667 or arrests happen, the system never really changes? 48 00:02:27,834 --> 00:02:31,767 America's public enemy number one is drug abuse. 49 00:02:31,934 --> 00:02:33,968 We're just gonna kill people 50 00:02:34,133 --> 00:02:35,801 that are bringing drugs into our country. 51 00:02:36,868 --> 00:02:40,267 The fact that the war on drugs seems to have little effect on 52 00:02:40,434 --> 00:02:44,567 this tide of narcotics has long fueled conspiracy theories 53 00:02:44,734 --> 00:02:49,100 that the government doesn't really want to win the war. 54 00:02:49,267 --> 00:02:52,901 But even more troubling is the idea that my own agency, 55 00:02:53,067 --> 00:02:56,167 the CIA, has been accused of working alongside 56 00:02:56,334 --> 00:02:59,167 drug traffickers to move their product into 57 00:02:59,334 --> 00:03:00,868 my own country. 58 00:03:01,033 --> 00:03:03,467 That makes this the most personal investigation 59 00:03:03,634 --> 00:03:05,167 for me yet. 60 00:03:05,334 --> 00:03:07,701 In this episode, I'm going to follow the evidence 61 00:03:07,868 --> 00:03:11,300 from covert wars overseas to the streets here at home. 62 00:03:11,467 --> 00:03:14,467 I'm going to track down a former DEA officer who says 63 00:03:14,634 --> 00:03:17,000 that he saw the corruption up close. 64 00:03:17,167 --> 00:03:20,367 We were fighting ourselves. We were the enemy. 65 00:03:20,534 --> 00:03:23,400 I'll investigate how covert operations from Vietnam to 66 00:03:23,567 --> 00:03:27,367 Afghanistan may have shaped the current drug war. 67 00:03:27,534 --> 00:03:30,501 And to probe the idea that the drug war has become a means 68 00:03:30,667 --> 00:03:34,100 to control here in the US, I link up with a privacy 69 00:03:34,267 --> 00:03:38,467 activist who exposes a tracking system originally built to hunt 70 00:03:38,634 --> 00:03:41,467 drug traffickers that he believes is monitoring 71 00:03:41,634 --> 00:03:42,800 everyday Americans. 72 00:03:42,801 --> 00:03:45,200 It's a very powerful tool and a very dangerous tool. 73 00:03:45,367 --> 00:03:48,701 All to answer a question that might explain everything-- 74 00:03:48,868 --> 00:03:53,501 if the war on drugs is real, then why are cartels wealthier 75 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:56,200 and more powerful than ever before? 76 00:03:56,367 --> 00:04:00,167 Because if the answer to that question isn't what we think, 77 00:04:00,334 --> 00:04:03,868 maybe there never really was a war at all. 78 00:04:14,467 --> 00:04:17,067 When you investigate a conspiracy, the hardest part 79 00:04:17,234 --> 00:04:19,367 is separating three things. 80 00:04:19,534 --> 00:04:22,667 What's documented, what shows up as a pattern, 81 00:04:22,834 --> 00:04:26,901 and what do people believe but still can't prove? 82 00:04:27,067 --> 00:04:29,167 That's what I'm trying to do here. 83 00:04:29,334 --> 00:04:31,467 I'm on my way to meet with a longtime colleague from 84 00:04:31,634 --> 00:04:33,367 the DEA named Cele. 85 00:04:33,534 --> 00:04:36,267 Cele made his career combating drug trade, and I feel like if 86 00:04:36,434 --> 00:04:39,267 I'm going to understand cartels and how they operate, 87 00:04:39,434 --> 00:04:42,868 I need to understand how drugs cross international borders. 88 00:04:44,868 --> 00:04:48,267 If drugs are the enemy and billions of dollars are 89 00:04:48,434 --> 00:04:52,100 spent on enforcement, why do narcotics still make it across 90 00:04:52,267 --> 00:04:53,667 the border every single day? 91 00:04:57,167 --> 00:05:00,300 Cele, how did you get involved in this war on drugs? 92 00:05:00,467 --> 00:05:04,100 Well, first and foremost, I come from a very... 93 00:05:05,467 --> 00:05:09,300 patriotic family, military and law enforcement family. 94 00:05:09,467 --> 00:05:12,267 What got me really into the war on drugs was 95 00:05:12,434 --> 00:05:14,200 what I experienced in Vietnam. 96 00:05:17,534 --> 00:05:21,200 I saw one of my friends shooting up heroin and ODing 97 00:05:21,367 --> 00:05:26,267 after a firefight, and that was when I decided that I wanted to 98 00:05:26,434 --> 00:05:28,267 be a drug agent. 99 00:05:28,434 --> 00:05:30,100 After Vietnam, Cele Castillo 100 00:05:30,267 --> 00:05:31,701 didn't walk away from the fight. 101 00:05:31,868 --> 00:05:33,501 He just found a new battlefield. 102 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:37,000 He joined the Drug Enforcement Administration in the 1970s, 103 00:05:37,167 --> 00:05:39,767 chasing heroin dealers on the mean streets of New York. 104 00:05:40,868 --> 00:05:43,968 But by the early 1980s, cocaine was exploding 105 00:05:44,133 --> 00:05:46,167 onto the global stage, 106 00:05:46,334 --> 00:05:48,267 and the DEA sent him into the belly of the beast, 107 00:05:48,434 --> 00:05:50,467 Central America, 108 00:05:50,634 --> 00:05:53,367 ground zero for the cocaine pipelines feeding 109 00:05:53,534 --> 00:05:54,634 the United States. 110 00:05:56,367 --> 00:05:58,601 So I asked Cele to show me something most people 111 00:05:58,767 --> 00:06:01,400 never see, the cat and mouse game 112 00:06:01,567 --> 00:06:03,801 between smugglers and law enforcement. 113 00:06:04,801 --> 00:06:06,100 Now, this isn't real cocaine. 114 00:06:06,267 --> 00:06:08,100 What is this mixture that you have here? 115 00:06:08,267 --> 00:06:10,100 It's flour, little bit of sugar. 116 00:06:10,267 --> 00:06:12,367 My understanding is you also added something to it to make 117 00:06:12,534 --> 00:06:14,000 it smell like cocaine? 118 00:06:14,167 --> 00:06:15,801 Yeah, you break it down in the lab, 119 00:06:15,968 --> 00:06:17,801 and then it's processed with ether, 120 00:06:17,968 --> 00:06:20,767 and you make it into 100% pure cocaine. 121 00:06:20,934 --> 00:06:24,400 So what the dogs smell isn't necessarily the cocaine itself. 122 00:06:24,567 --> 00:06:26,000 It's the ether, yes. 123 00:06:26,167 --> 00:06:27,868 If drugs are still getting through, 124 00:06:28,033 --> 00:06:30,267 is it because we can't detect them? 125 00:06:30,434 --> 00:06:32,567 Or is something else going wrong? 126 00:06:32,734 --> 00:06:35,868 To find out, I'm going to test if we can get a substance that 127 00:06:36,033 --> 00:06:39,667 looks and smells like cocaine past one of the most common 128 00:06:39,834 --> 00:06:43,467 lines of defense, a trained drug detection dog. 129 00:06:43,634 --> 00:06:47,567 So what we're doing is taking the powder and masking it. 130 00:06:47,734 --> 00:06:49,267 How do we actually do that? 131 00:06:49,434 --> 00:06:53,467 The kilo itself is already compressed and taped. 132 00:06:53,634 --> 00:06:56,467 And then we sprinkle coffee grounds mostly on top, 133 00:06:56,634 --> 00:06:57,868 drop the coffee grounds on there. 134 00:06:58,868 --> 00:07:01,901 Cele shows me how traffickers conceal drugs, 135 00:07:02,067 --> 00:07:04,367 masking the scent with coffee grounds and tape. 136 00:07:04,534 --> 00:07:06,968 You go forward and then you go sideways and-- 137 00:07:07,133 --> 00:07:08,600 - In a pattern. - Yeah. 138 00:07:08,601 --> 00:07:12,300 And hiding them inside massive shipments of everyday goods. 139 00:07:12,467 --> 00:07:14,567 It's not just about beating detection, 140 00:07:14,734 --> 00:07:17,300 it's about overwhelming the system and relying on 141 00:07:17,467 --> 00:07:20,000 the fact that no one has time to check everything. 142 00:07:21,367 --> 00:07:24,567 Now, I have a friend who actually trains 143 00:07:24,734 --> 00:07:26,000 drug detection dogs. - Mm-hmm. 144 00:07:26,167 --> 00:07:29,367 If I take this and I test it against a trained dog... 145 00:07:29,534 --> 00:07:32,100 - He's gonna miss it. - But if we take them both? 146 00:07:32,267 --> 00:07:35,501 - Yeah, he'll hit on this one. - So if you'll hide that one... 147 00:07:35,667 --> 00:07:36,901 - Yeah. - I'll bury this, 148 00:07:37,067 --> 00:07:38,767 and I'll bury it under onions and grapefruit. 149 00:07:38,934 --> 00:07:39,868 OK. 150 00:07:43,267 --> 00:07:44,367 You ready to go smuggle some drugs? 151 00:07:44,534 --> 00:07:45,868 Sure, let's go do that. 152 00:07:46,033 --> 00:07:47,767 So here's what we're doing. 153 00:07:47,934 --> 00:07:50,267 We'll load Celerino's vehicle with the produce 154 00:07:50,434 --> 00:07:52,667 and the containers of mock cocaine. 155 00:07:52,834 --> 00:07:55,400 One box of produce contains the wrapped drugs. 156 00:07:55,567 --> 00:07:57,634 Another box contains the unwrapped one. 157 00:08:00,167 --> 00:08:03,100 My SUV will be the control vehicle, meaning there will be 158 00:08:03,267 --> 00:08:04,267 no drugs in the car. 159 00:08:05,501 --> 00:08:06,634 I'll go in first, 160 00:08:06,801 --> 00:08:09,000 while Celerino hangs back for our cue to come in. 161 00:08:10,868 --> 00:08:12,467 Jordan, thank you so much for coming out. 162 00:08:12,634 --> 00:08:14,267 Absolutely. Good to see you again, Andy. 163 00:08:14,434 --> 00:08:16,501 Jordan Henderson is a professional dog handler 164 00:08:16,667 --> 00:08:17,901 who trains sniffer dogs for 165 00:08:18,067 --> 00:08:20,067 law enforcement agencies all over the country. 166 00:08:21,467 --> 00:08:24,501 He has no idea which vehicle the drugs are in. 167 00:08:24,667 --> 00:08:27,767 If his dogs can sniff them out, we can safely eliminate 168 00:08:27,934 --> 00:08:29,467 border detection as the problem. 169 00:08:34,601 --> 00:08:36,267 This is Atlas. She's five years old. 170 00:08:36,434 --> 00:08:38,100 She's a Belgian Malinois. 171 00:08:39,300 --> 00:08:41,067 What language are you speaking to her? 172 00:08:41,234 --> 00:08:42,868 My dogs are trained in Swahili. 173 00:08:43,033 --> 00:08:46,367 It does aid us to say things that the average person 174 00:08:46,534 --> 00:08:47,968 doesn't know. - Oh, cool. 175 00:08:48,133 --> 00:08:50,300 She's trained dual purpose-- protection-apprehension work, 176 00:08:50,467 --> 00:08:52,501 detection, and tracking. - Wow. 177 00:08:52,667 --> 00:08:54,167 Same with her daughter, Agojie, up here. 178 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,267 So this is her daughter. 179 00:08:59,434 --> 00:09:01,667 She's about 10 months now, 180 00:09:01,834 --> 00:09:04,167 and she already certified in odor detection. 181 00:09:04,334 --> 00:09:06,467 Can you tell me a little bit about how the dogs work? 182 00:09:06,634 --> 00:09:09,567 Yeah. So from the time that these dogs are born, 183 00:09:09,734 --> 00:09:10,867 their eyes aren't open. 184 00:09:10,868 --> 00:09:13,000 So everything they do is through their nose, right? 185 00:09:13,167 --> 00:09:15,400 So they're trying to find mom through her scent. 186 00:09:15,567 --> 00:09:17,367 They're trying to find milk. 187 00:09:17,534 --> 00:09:20,868 So we get the odor that the dog is gonna be detecting, 188 00:09:21,033 --> 00:09:22,467 and we put it on her stomach. 189 00:09:22,634 --> 00:09:25,467 So since the dogs are three days old, they're already 190 00:09:25,634 --> 00:09:28,801 associating that smell with the thing that they want most 191 00:09:28,968 --> 00:09:29,934 in life, which is milk. 192 00:09:31,767 --> 00:09:33,467 We'll just let her know what we're doing. 193 00:09:37,667 --> 00:09:40,167 Now, what did you just do with what looked like a toy? 194 00:09:40,334 --> 00:09:42,567 I'm just letting her know, hey, I have something 195 00:09:42,734 --> 00:09:44,267 rewardable for you to work, 196 00:09:44,434 --> 00:09:46,367 and then give her a search command. 197 00:09:46,534 --> 00:09:48,801 And right now, I'm just watching for any head snaps, 198 00:09:48,968 --> 00:09:51,501 any interest in your vehicle that you brought here. 199 00:09:51,667 --> 00:09:53,467 What are the cues that you're seeing, if you don't mind 200 00:09:53,634 --> 00:09:54,534 kind of translating them for me? 201 00:09:54,701 --> 00:09:55,867 Yeah, so right now she's pretty flat. 202 00:09:55,868 --> 00:09:58,367 She's checking door seams, which she's trained to do. 203 00:09:58,534 --> 00:10:01,801 I see her ears laying flat. Does that cue anything at all? 204 00:10:01,968 --> 00:10:04,701 Ears up would be interesting, but she circled the vehicle 205 00:10:04,868 --> 00:10:06,567 twice, and she's going, hey, dude, 206 00:10:06,734 --> 00:10:07,667 there's nothing here. 207 00:10:08,501 --> 00:10:09,868 And I'm going to give her her toy, 208 00:10:10,033 --> 00:10:12,567 reward her for just looking. 209 00:10:12,734 --> 00:10:14,000 Now for the real test, 210 00:10:14,167 --> 00:10:16,667 to see if a Agojie will detect the scent of cocaine 211 00:10:16,834 --> 00:10:18,400 hidden in Celerino's vehicle. 212 00:10:20,067 --> 00:10:21,767 - How are you, sir? - And this is a Agojie. 213 00:10:21,934 --> 00:10:23,067 I'll just have you step away from the car 214 00:10:23,234 --> 00:10:24,167 a little bit for me. 215 00:10:28,567 --> 00:10:29,667 Yeah, mama. 216 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:34,300 So I saw a little head snap there. 217 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,067 Another one right there. 218 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,467 I'm just gonna let her... 219 00:10:40,667 --> 00:10:42,200 - Wow! - Did you see that? 220 00:10:42,367 --> 00:10:43,399 Ears up. 221 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,868 That's that look I was talking about before. 222 00:10:56,367 --> 00:10:59,267 So when she stops like that and I put tension on the line, 223 00:10:59,434 --> 00:11:00,667 we call it line checking. 224 00:11:00,834 --> 00:11:02,133 I say, "Are you sure?" 225 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:05,701 If she stays there and pushes into it, there's something here. 226 00:11:05,868 --> 00:11:07,167 - OK. - Send her back to the car. 227 00:11:10,868 --> 00:11:11,901 Wow, look at her go. 228 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,801 - You see that freeze? - Yep. 229 00:11:14,968 --> 00:11:16,968 - I line check her. - Look at that. 230 00:11:18,901 --> 00:11:20,400 Whoo! 231 00:11:22,868 --> 00:11:24,868 So I'll pull out what she was scenting on 232 00:11:25,033 --> 00:11:26,601 and I'll take it out of the way. 233 00:11:39,367 --> 00:11:41,567 She's so fast, too. 234 00:11:41,734 --> 00:11:43,167 Yeah, that box in the back left corner. 235 00:11:43,334 --> 00:11:44,267 There we go. 236 00:11:48,167 --> 00:11:50,000 You want to reveal what's in these boxes? 237 00:11:50,167 --> 00:11:52,300 Absolutely. Here we go. 238 00:11:52,467 --> 00:11:53,666 Wow. 239 00:11:53,667 --> 00:11:56,567 So inside this is a mock cocaine concoction laced with 240 00:11:56,734 --> 00:11:58,100 the same smell of real cocaine. 241 00:11:58,267 --> 00:11:59,767 So it's got the ether smell that would come 242 00:11:59,934 --> 00:12:01,300 with genuine cocaine. - Yeah. 243 00:12:01,467 --> 00:12:02,968 In this box, we have the same thing, 244 00:12:04,367 --> 00:12:05,901 only it hasn't been 245 00:12:06,067 --> 00:12:08,501 wrapped and disguised. - Wrapped, ah, yeah, yeah. 246 00:12:08,667 --> 00:12:12,300 But we tried to disguise them with onions, coffee. 247 00:12:12,467 --> 00:12:13,534 Yeah, and that's not gonna work. 248 00:12:13,701 --> 00:12:16,200 They have so many nerve endings at the end of 249 00:12:16,367 --> 00:12:18,801 their nose that we can't even conceptualize 250 00:12:18,968 --> 00:12:21,100 their true potential. 251 00:12:21,267 --> 00:12:25,000 This was a 10-month-old dog that just nailed us. 252 00:12:25,167 --> 00:12:27,067 - Impressed. - I am absolutely speechless. 253 00:12:27,234 --> 00:12:28,767 - Jordan, thank you so much. - I appreciate you guys. 254 00:12:28,934 --> 00:12:29,767 - Thank you so much, dude. - Awesome. 255 00:12:29,934 --> 00:12:31,000 Yeah. Come on, girl. 256 00:12:32,801 --> 00:12:34,801 Here's what the experiment showed me. 257 00:12:34,968 --> 00:12:37,567 It's not that we don't know how to find drugs. 258 00:12:37,734 --> 00:12:39,767 We do. The dogs work. 259 00:12:39,934 --> 00:12:41,667 The detection works. 260 00:12:41,834 --> 00:12:44,167 But that's only one part of the system. 261 00:12:44,334 --> 00:12:47,667 Because dogs can't search every truck, every car, 262 00:12:47,834 --> 00:12:50,267 every container crossing the border. 263 00:12:50,434 --> 00:12:52,467 Agents have to prioritize. 264 00:12:52,634 --> 00:12:55,067 And the moment you rely on human judgment... 265 00:12:55,234 --> 00:12:57,367 that's where things can break down. 266 00:12:57,534 --> 00:12:59,801 That's where incentives and corruption 267 00:12:59,968 --> 00:13:01,567 can enter the picture. 268 00:13:01,734 --> 00:13:06,501 Now what the cartels are doing are sending their own guys into 269 00:13:06,667 --> 00:13:07,968 the Border Patrol Academy. 270 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,267 Yeah, we had one guy that let the trucks come in and he did 271 00:13:12,434 --> 00:13:15,167 that for many years and finally got caught. - What? 272 00:13:15,334 --> 00:13:17,167 Do you have evidence of this? 273 00:13:17,334 --> 00:13:19,367 Yes, yes, it's very well documented. 274 00:13:19,534 --> 00:13:22,801 Jorge Jimenez was charged with conspiracy to commit 275 00:13:22,968 --> 00:13:25,767 wire fraud, paid off by Mexican smugglers 276 00:13:25,934 --> 00:13:28,100 to pass through the I-19 checkpoint 277 00:13:28,267 --> 00:13:29,767 without inspection. 278 00:13:29,934 --> 00:13:31,567 If there's corruption happening at the border, 279 00:13:31,734 --> 00:13:33,767 how much further does the corruption go? 280 00:13:33,934 --> 00:13:35,968 - The highest level of our government. - Wow. 281 00:13:36,133 --> 00:13:38,367 Cele's making a big claim. 282 00:13:38,534 --> 00:13:40,801 He and others believe the real vulnerability isn't 283 00:13:40,968 --> 00:13:43,567 the border itself. It's corruption. 284 00:13:43,734 --> 00:13:45,267 He says it goes all the way to the top 285 00:13:45,434 --> 00:13:48,667 of the US government, even to my former agency. 286 00:13:48,834 --> 00:13:51,567 CIA are complicit in the drug trade, 287 00:13:51,734 --> 00:13:54,167 supporting covert operations. 288 00:13:54,334 --> 00:13:57,400 And if he is right, that could mean something very different 289 00:13:57,567 --> 00:14:00,367 about how this system actually works. 290 00:14:00,534 --> 00:14:03,000 And Cele says he has first-hand knowledge that 291 00:14:03,167 --> 00:14:04,467 he thinks proves it. 292 00:14:05,367 --> 00:14:09,367 Coming up, what if the reason we never won the war on drugs 293 00:14:09,534 --> 00:14:13,100 is because stopping drugs was never the top priority? 294 00:14:13,267 --> 00:14:14,667 We were the enemy. 295 00:14:14,834 --> 00:14:17,167 We were the ones that were involved in 296 00:14:17,334 --> 00:14:20,467 drug trafficking, corruption. - And then... 297 00:14:20,634 --> 00:14:22,067 We'd be on military missions. 298 00:14:22,234 --> 00:14:23,868 We'd land a helicopter in a field. 299 00:14:24,033 --> 00:14:25,100 Wherever you went, there was poppy. 300 00:14:25,267 --> 00:14:26,467 It was like corn in Nebraska. 301 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,968 2 Our experiment proved that we know how to find drugs. 302 00:14:39,133 --> 00:14:40,267 There we go. 303 00:14:40,434 --> 00:14:41,868 So if the drugs kept moving, 304 00:14:42,033 --> 00:14:45,200 the question becomes, who was letting them move? 305 00:14:45,367 --> 00:14:48,501 For Cele, that answer started in Central America. 306 00:14:48,667 --> 00:14:51,467 Because instead of just finding traffickers, 307 00:14:51,634 --> 00:14:53,901 he says he found something else. 308 00:14:54,067 --> 00:14:57,901 Some of us were putting our lives on the line to fight 309 00:14:58,067 --> 00:15:00,868 this so-called war on drugs, but I ended up seeing 310 00:15:01,033 --> 00:15:04,100 and realizing that we were the enemy. 311 00:15:04,267 --> 00:15:07,667 We were the ones that were involved in drug trafficking, 312 00:15:07,834 --> 00:15:09,167 corruption, you name it. 313 00:15:11,234 --> 00:15:13,901 At the time, President Reagan was obsessed with overthrowing 314 00:15:14,067 --> 00:15:16,501 Nicaragua's communist government, and he ordered 315 00:15:16,667 --> 00:15:20,167 the CIA to train and help fund a right-wing rebel army 316 00:15:20,334 --> 00:15:22,067 called the Contras. 317 00:15:22,234 --> 00:15:23,968 Now, the people that are so-called Contras, 318 00:15:24,133 --> 00:15:27,567 they're demanding a restoration of the democratic goals 319 00:15:28,968 --> 00:15:31,467 of the-- of the revolution. 320 00:15:31,634 --> 00:15:36,701 And we feel obligated to give them support. 321 00:15:36,868 --> 00:15:39,167 But after Congress banned military support for 322 00:15:39,334 --> 00:15:42,167 the Contras, the war didn't just stop. 323 00:15:42,334 --> 00:15:45,767 According to Cele, the funding just went underground. 324 00:15:45,934 --> 00:15:49,267 As long as there is breath in this body, I will speak 325 00:15:49,434 --> 00:15:51,267 and work, strive, and struggle 326 00:15:51,434 --> 00:15:54,801 for the cause of the Nicaraguan freedom fighters. 327 00:15:54,968 --> 00:15:58,701 We were supplying cocaine into the US, 328 00:15:58,868 --> 00:16:01,601 and on the return trips, we were bringing weapons 329 00:16:01,767 --> 00:16:04,367 to finance the Contras. 330 00:16:04,534 --> 00:16:09,300 My friends that were CIA pilots were flying the cocaine 331 00:16:09,467 --> 00:16:12,767 into US military bases, 332 00:16:13,968 --> 00:16:16,100 and one of them was in Fort Worth, Texas. 333 00:16:20,167 --> 00:16:24,100 If the CIA has, at times, facilitated drug trafficking 334 00:16:24,267 --> 00:16:26,267 during covert operations, I want to know 335 00:16:26,434 --> 00:16:28,567 how far back that goes. 336 00:16:28,734 --> 00:16:31,701 So I'm reaching out to Alfred McCoy, one of the first 337 00:16:31,868 --> 00:16:34,567 researchers to investigate the global heroin trade 338 00:16:34,734 --> 00:16:37,801 and its links to covert US operations. 339 00:16:37,968 --> 00:16:42,167 How far back does possible CIA involvement with 340 00:16:42,334 --> 00:16:44,000 drug smuggling go? 341 00:16:44,167 --> 00:16:46,767 In the Cold War, the CIA was operating covertly, 342 00:16:46,934 --> 00:16:52,167 and drug smuggling is simply a manifestation of an alliance 343 00:16:52,334 --> 00:16:55,000 that started with the dawn of the CIA and the dawn of 344 00:16:55,167 --> 00:16:56,334 the Cold War. 345 00:16:56,501 --> 00:16:59,067 Whenever operatives during the Cold War were sent to 346 00:16:59,234 --> 00:17:02,501 conduct covert operations, they needed local assets. 347 00:17:02,667 --> 00:17:05,767 And the most likely place to find them, time and time again, 348 00:17:05,934 --> 00:17:07,367 was in this covert netherworld. 349 00:17:07,534 --> 00:17:10,467 So the connection is really through local people who are 350 00:17:10,634 --> 00:17:13,567 already engaged in the drug trade, is that correct? 351 00:17:13,734 --> 00:17:14,868 That's correct, yeah. Right. 352 00:17:16,667 --> 00:17:18,467 When the Vietnam War started 353 00:17:18,634 --> 00:17:21,067 in 1964-65, 354 00:17:22,467 --> 00:17:26,400 the CIA mobilizes a 30,000-man army, largely from 355 00:17:26,567 --> 00:17:28,467 the Hmong highland population. 356 00:17:31,968 --> 00:17:35,000 The CIA's war in Laos is one of the least understood 357 00:17:35,167 --> 00:17:38,367 chapters of the Cold War, a conflict fought almost 358 00:17:38,534 --> 00:17:41,901 entirely in the shadows, with very few Americans even 359 00:17:42,067 --> 00:17:43,400 aware it was happening. 360 00:17:43,567 --> 00:17:46,167 A handful of CIA operatives were tasked with running 361 00:17:46,334 --> 00:17:49,367 an entire covert war, building and directing this 362 00:17:49,534 --> 00:17:54,100 30,000-man proxy army to block communist expansion and disrupt 363 00:17:54,267 --> 00:17:56,667 the Ho Chi Minh Trail, the main avenue for 364 00:17:56,834 --> 00:18:00,868 the communist North Vietnamese to access South Vietnam. 365 00:18:01,033 --> 00:18:03,000 McCoy was one of the few Western journalists 366 00:18:03,167 --> 00:18:06,100 who actually made it into this hidden battlefield, 367 00:18:06,267 --> 00:18:09,467 risking his life to document what America was really doing 368 00:18:09,634 --> 00:18:11,801 inside this secret war. 369 00:18:11,968 --> 00:18:15,000 Now, those Hmong villages have a very simple economy. 370 00:18:15,167 --> 00:18:17,000 They grow sticky rice for subsistence 371 00:18:17,167 --> 00:18:18,100 and they grew opium. 372 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,501 And opium was the source of cash 373 00:18:21,667 --> 00:18:24,267 that sustained those communities. 374 00:18:24,434 --> 00:18:27,367 The CIA's Air America started carrying the opium 375 00:18:27,534 --> 00:18:28,501 for those villagers. 376 00:18:29,701 --> 00:18:31,767 I started investigating. 377 00:18:31,934 --> 00:18:33,567 I got an interpreter and a photographer, 378 00:18:33,734 --> 00:18:36,000 and I interviewed farmer after farmer. 379 00:18:36,167 --> 00:18:37,267 The story was the same. 380 00:18:37,434 --> 00:18:41,200 They grew five, maybe 10 kilos of opium. 381 00:18:41,367 --> 00:18:44,167 They took the opium down to the helicopter landing pad. 382 00:18:44,334 --> 00:18:46,267 The Air America helicopter flew in. 383 00:18:47,267 --> 00:18:50,701 Hmong officers in the CIA secret army got out, paid them 384 00:18:50,868 --> 00:18:52,100 cash for the opium. 385 00:18:52,267 --> 00:18:55,400 They loaded the opium on the aircraft and the aircraft 386 00:18:55,567 --> 00:18:58,801 flew off to the CIA base in Long Tieng. 387 00:18:58,968 --> 00:19:01,367 And if I'm understanding you, the reason CIA was turning 388 00:19:01,534 --> 00:19:04,167 a blind eye was because the larger priority in 389 00:19:04,334 --> 00:19:08,000 the region was being able to protect Northern Laos, 390 00:19:08,167 --> 00:19:11,000 keep the communists out and ensure that 391 00:19:11,167 --> 00:19:14,100 Southern Vietnamese forces had the best opportunity to win 392 00:19:14,267 --> 00:19:15,667 in the North? - Exactly. 393 00:19:15,834 --> 00:19:20,601 So suppression and cover-up of this necessary complicity 394 00:19:20,767 --> 00:19:22,567 in the opium traffic was 395 00:19:22,734 --> 00:19:24,167 a necessary part of that mission. 396 00:19:25,467 --> 00:19:27,300 But that doesn't prove that the CIA was 397 00:19:27,467 --> 00:19:29,367 running drugs as policy. 398 00:19:29,534 --> 00:19:32,400 What it does show is something narrower and possibly 399 00:19:32,567 --> 00:19:33,834 more believable. 400 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,067 When covert missions rely on local allies already involved 401 00:19:38,234 --> 00:19:41,801 in the drug trade, narcotics were often tolerated 402 00:19:41,968 --> 00:19:44,200 if the larger strategic goals mattered more. 403 00:19:45,767 --> 00:19:48,267 That's not the same as ordering it, but it can 404 00:19:48,434 --> 00:19:49,467 lead to the same results. 405 00:19:50,567 --> 00:19:52,400 During the Cold War, the objective was 406 00:19:52,567 --> 00:19:54,367 stopping communism. 407 00:19:54,534 --> 00:19:56,267 But ten years later, when the US 408 00:19:56,434 --> 00:19:58,467 went into Afghanistan after 9/11, 409 00:19:58,634 --> 00:20:02,167 that priority shifted to terrorism. 410 00:20:02,334 --> 00:20:07,067 Today we focus on Afghanistan, but the battle is broader. 411 00:20:07,234 --> 00:20:10,467 In the face of today's new threat, the only way to pursue 412 00:20:10,634 --> 00:20:13,300 peace is to pursue those who threaten it. 413 00:20:13,467 --> 00:20:15,167 The question is, when the US 414 00:20:15,334 --> 00:20:18,100 went to Afghanistan, knowing it was the center of 415 00:20:18,267 --> 00:20:21,367 the global heroin trade, what did we do about it? 416 00:20:21,534 --> 00:20:24,868 I'm reaching out to a former "60 Minutes" producer who spent 417 00:20:25,033 --> 00:20:28,100 months embedded with US forces in southern Afghanistan. 418 00:20:29,467 --> 00:20:32,467 How would you characterize the coexistence of conflict 419 00:20:32,634 --> 00:20:34,300 and drugs in Afghanistan? 420 00:20:34,467 --> 00:20:36,767 The one thing I noticed the most was... 421 00:20:36,934 --> 00:20:37,868 poppy. 422 00:20:39,167 --> 00:20:40,667 You know, it was everywhere. 423 00:20:40,834 --> 00:20:43,100 And we'd be on military missions. 424 00:20:43,267 --> 00:20:44,767 We'd land a helicopter in a field. 425 00:20:44,934 --> 00:20:46,000 Wherever you went, there was poppy. 426 00:20:46,167 --> 00:20:47,567 It was like corn in Nebraska. 427 00:20:47,734 --> 00:20:49,000 And you'd think that if the US military 428 00:20:49,167 --> 00:20:51,767 is gonna solve a problem with drugs, 429 00:20:51,934 --> 00:20:53,868 it would be doing it in the middle of that. 430 00:20:54,033 --> 00:20:55,266 But it wasn't anything like that. 431 00:20:55,267 --> 00:20:57,367 They were going specifically after targets and they just 432 00:20:57,534 --> 00:20:59,901 walked through the fields like it was no big deal. 433 00:21:00,133 --> 00:21:01,801 There was nothing on the ground that showed me that they really 434 00:21:01,968 --> 00:21:04,767 cared to eradicate the drugs coming out of Afghanistan. 435 00:21:05,868 --> 00:21:08,000 Different war, same outcome. 436 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:10,501 Here's what's documented. 437 00:21:10,667 --> 00:21:13,501 Covert wars where drug production expanded 438 00:21:13,667 --> 00:21:15,367 instead of disappeared. 439 00:21:15,534 --> 00:21:17,267 Here's what shows up as a pattern-- 440 00:21:17,434 --> 00:21:20,667 when larger strategic goals took priority, 441 00:21:20,834 --> 00:21:23,801 stopping drugs moved to the bottom of the list. 442 00:21:25,501 --> 00:21:27,567 And here's what's still unproven. 443 00:21:27,734 --> 00:21:32,100 Whether that tolerance was policy or simply the cost of 444 00:21:32,267 --> 00:21:34,367 doing business in the shadows. 445 00:21:34,534 --> 00:21:37,000 Either way, the result was the same. 446 00:21:37,167 --> 00:21:40,901 The drugs kept moving and eventually they came home. 447 00:21:48,968 --> 00:21:52,467 2 If drugs weren't being stopped overseas, the next question is, 448 00:21:52,634 --> 00:21:56,100 did those same networks help enable them here at home? 449 00:21:56,267 --> 00:21:58,367 To find out, I go back to Cele, 450 00:21:58,534 --> 00:22:01,367 who believes the pipeline didn't just exist overseas, 451 00:22:01,534 --> 00:22:02,801 it reached the United States. 452 00:22:03,901 --> 00:22:07,000 The Contra War unfolded at the same time the United States 453 00:22:07,167 --> 00:22:09,801 was entering one of the most devastating drug crises 454 00:22:09,968 --> 00:22:13,000 in its history-- the crack epidemic. 455 00:22:13,167 --> 00:22:15,801 To keep the war alive, Cele claims he discovered 456 00:22:15,968 --> 00:22:19,367 the CIA was helping the Contras traffic mass massive quantities 457 00:22:19,534 --> 00:22:22,167 of cocaine into the United States. 458 00:22:22,334 --> 00:22:24,601 Drugs would fly north, and then the planes would 459 00:22:24,767 --> 00:22:25,667 return with arms. 460 00:22:27,067 --> 00:22:29,300 Cele even provided a sworn report 461 00:22:29,467 --> 00:22:31,000 to the House Intelligence Committee on what 462 00:22:31,167 --> 00:22:34,367 he found, and has spent the next four decades 463 00:22:34,534 --> 00:22:36,467 making a claim that still divides 464 00:22:36,634 --> 00:22:40,367 investigators and historians of CIA's secret wars. 465 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,767 There is evidence the Contras in Nicaragua were smuggling 466 00:22:46,934 --> 00:22:50,567 drugs to pay for their own revolutionary operations. - Mm-hmm. 467 00:22:50,734 --> 00:22:53,801 But I haven't seen anything that says that it was 468 00:22:53,968 --> 00:22:56,367 sanctioned by the US government. - Yeah. 469 00:22:56,534 --> 00:22:58,167 That distinction matters. 470 00:22:58,334 --> 00:23:01,167 There's evidence Contra traffickers moved cocaine, 471 00:23:01,334 --> 00:23:03,667 and that some of those same networks overlapped with 472 00:23:03,834 --> 00:23:05,467 covert US operations. 473 00:23:05,634 --> 00:23:08,767 What's harder to prove is intent-- whether that was 474 00:23:08,934 --> 00:23:12,267 tolerated, ignored, or directed from above. 475 00:23:12,434 --> 00:23:14,300 That's the line I'm trying to find. 476 00:23:14,467 --> 00:23:16,767 You're not going to find much 477 00:23:16,934 --> 00:23:19,667 because everything was stopped by the CIA. 478 00:23:21,467 --> 00:23:23,567 If you look at the history, you go back to 479 00:23:23,734 --> 00:23:24,967 the French connection. 480 00:23:24,968 --> 00:23:28,000 You go back to the Cuban exiles that were running drugs. 481 00:23:28,167 --> 00:23:31,267 You can always say, well, there were individuals. 482 00:23:31,434 --> 00:23:34,667 Yeah, but they were approved and sanctioned by the CIA. 483 00:23:35,868 --> 00:23:38,100 One of the most controversial connections comes from 484 00:23:38,267 --> 00:23:41,067 Los Angeles drug kingpin "Freeway" Rick Ross, 485 00:23:41,234 --> 00:23:44,267 who claimed he was supplied with a seemingly endless 486 00:23:44,434 --> 00:23:47,467 supply of cocaine by a Nicaraguan trafficker 487 00:23:47,634 --> 00:23:49,601 named Danilo Blandon. 488 00:23:49,767 --> 00:23:54,467 Blandon, who is very well documented as CIA asset, 489 00:23:54,634 --> 00:23:59,400 he ran the smuggling of drugs for the Contra, 490 00:23:59,567 --> 00:24:03,767 delivering hundreds of kilos of cocaine to Ricky Ross... 491 00:24:05,167 --> 00:24:06,667 to start the crack epidemic. 492 00:24:07,701 --> 00:24:11,000 He was approved by the CIA to do all this. 493 00:24:11,167 --> 00:24:14,467 What Cele's claiming is just that-- a claim. 494 00:24:14,634 --> 00:24:17,200 It's hard to prove whether Blandon's drug pipeline was 495 00:24:17,367 --> 00:24:19,400 part of an approved US operation, 496 00:24:19,567 --> 00:24:22,200 or if he was just a trafficker exploiting a war for 497 00:24:22,367 --> 00:24:23,868 his own gain. 498 00:24:24,033 --> 00:24:25,968 The US government denies any role in 499 00:24:26,133 --> 00:24:27,767 fueling the nation's crack epidemic. 500 00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:31,868 But Cele's also not the only one to raise that flag. 501 00:24:33,567 --> 00:24:36,400 In the 1990s, journalist Gary Webb published 502 00:24:36,567 --> 00:24:38,667 a series called the "Dark Alliance," 503 00:24:38,834 --> 00:24:42,167 linking cocaine traffickers connected to the Contras to 504 00:24:42,334 --> 00:24:45,000 the rise of crack in Los Angeles. 505 00:24:45,167 --> 00:24:48,167 I did a series that said that the crack market in 506 00:24:48,334 --> 00:24:50,801 South Central Los Angeles had been created 507 00:24:50,968 --> 00:24:52,467 in the early 1980s with the help of 508 00:24:52,634 --> 00:24:53,633 this Contra drug ring. 509 00:24:53,634 --> 00:24:56,467 And it ended up being a huge controversy. 510 00:24:56,634 --> 00:24:59,601 His reporting ignited a national firestorm. 511 00:24:59,767 --> 00:25:01,400 I will tell you, Director Deutch, as a former 512 00:25:01,567 --> 00:25:04,367 Los Angeles police narcotics detective, that the agency has 513 00:25:04,534 --> 00:25:06,667 dealt drugs throughout this country for a long time. 514 00:25:09,033 --> 00:25:12,400 But Webb's reporting was also met with fierce criticism. 515 00:25:12,567 --> 00:25:15,367 Major outlets like the LA Times, the New York Times, 516 00:25:15,534 --> 00:25:18,367 and the Washington Post pushed back hard, 517 00:25:18,534 --> 00:25:20,701 challenging both his conclusions 518 00:25:20,868 --> 00:25:22,167 and the strength of his evidence. 519 00:25:23,501 --> 00:25:26,601 The controversy then prompted a hefty two-year investigation 520 00:25:26,767 --> 00:25:30,167 by the CIA's inspector general, Frederick Hitz. 521 00:25:30,334 --> 00:25:34,567 I want to make clear that we found absolutely no evidence 522 00:25:34,734 --> 00:25:37,968 to indicate that CIA as an organization 523 00:25:38,133 --> 00:25:40,701 or its employees were involved in 524 00:25:40,868 --> 00:25:43,367 any conspiracy to bring drugs into 525 00:25:43,534 --> 00:25:44,901 the United States. 526 00:25:45,067 --> 00:25:47,267 Even if not all of Webb's conclusions held, 527 00:25:47,434 --> 00:25:51,167 his reporting forced a national conversation about how deeply 528 00:25:51,334 --> 00:25:52,667 these drug networks may have 529 00:25:52,834 --> 00:25:54,968 overlapped with covert US operations. 530 00:25:55,133 --> 00:26:00,100 The least we could do is develop public policy that will 531 00:26:00,267 --> 00:26:05,367 indicate that drug trafficking can never be used in any covert 532 00:26:05,534 --> 00:26:09,167 operation, no matter what is being attempted. 533 00:26:09,334 --> 00:26:12,200 I met with Maxine Waters and gave her my evidence 534 00:26:12,367 --> 00:26:14,200 that I had, my DEA reports 535 00:26:14,367 --> 00:26:17,267 and pictures that I took at Ilopango Airport. 536 00:26:17,434 --> 00:26:20,901 I have a list of all the pilots that ran 537 00:26:21,067 --> 00:26:22,400 for the CIA. 538 00:26:24,868 --> 00:26:27,000 Here's where the evidence lands. 539 00:26:27,167 --> 00:26:30,300 Some Contra-linked groups were involved in drug trafficking, 540 00:26:30,467 --> 00:26:33,467 and the CIA was aware of those allegations. 541 00:26:33,634 --> 00:26:37,000 But there was no confirmed evidence of a coordinated CIA 542 00:26:37,167 --> 00:26:39,667 plan to flood Black communities with crack. 543 00:26:44,501 --> 00:26:47,601 Either way, it leaves me with the same question. 544 00:26:47,767 --> 00:26:50,767 If drugs were moving through these networks, 545 00:26:50,934 --> 00:26:53,868 was it individuals operating in the shadows? 546 00:26:54,033 --> 00:26:56,167 Or something larger? 547 00:26:56,334 --> 00:26:59,300 To find out, I need someone who actually understands 548 00:26:59,467 --> 00:27:02,067 how these operations work from the inside. 549 00:27:02,234 --> 00:27:05,400 Luckily, I have a source close to me who could shed some light. 550 00:27:06,501 --> 00:27:11,167 My wife, Jihi, who is also a former CIA officer and spent 551 00:27:11,334 --> 00:27:13,100 years working counter narcotics. 552 00:27:15,567 --> 00:27:16,901 I had this conversation yesterday... 553 00:27:17,067 --> 00:27:18,266 Mm-hmm. 554 00:27:18,267 --> 00:27:23,400 ...that CIA was actively supporting the crack epidemic 555 00:27:23,567 --> 00:27:28,100 in Southern California as part of the Iran-Contra affair. 556 00:27:28,267 --> 00:27:31,000 And the math doesn't add up to me. 557 00:27:31,167 --> 00:27:33,667 When you've got entire agencies trying to fight the war on 558 00:27:33,834 --> 00:27:37,868 drugs, and you have drugs persistently present, 559 00:27:38,033 --> 00:27:39,767 does that mean that we're losing? 560 00:27:39,934 --> 00:27:42,567 And if we are losing, does it mean that we are 561 00:27:42,734 --> 00:27:43,867 losing intentionally? 562 00:27:43,868 --> 00:27:47,767 Because that's really what the DEA guy was saying. 563 00:27:47,934 --> 00:27:51,067 Well I mean, I think, when you think about the CIA, 564 00:27:51,234 --> 00:27:54,400 it has various missions, various priorities, 565 00:27:54,567 --> 00:27:57,367 and narco trafficking is not the priority. 566 00:27:57,534 --> 00:28:03,100 So if Iran took precedence, then anti-narco trafficking 567 00:28:03,267 --> 00:28:06,267 would be put on the back burner. 568 00:28:06,434 --> 00:28:08,868 That may be the clearest answer yet. 569 00:28:09,033 --> 00:28:11,167 Not that drugs were the mission, but that 570 00:28:11,334 --> 00:28:13,167 stopping them wasn't. 571 00:28:13,334 --> 00:28:15,868 So if fighting drugs would have cost us 572 00:28:16,033 --> 00:28:17,567 the Iran-Contra opportunity... - Mm-hmm. 573 00:28:17,734 --> 00:28:20,000 ...then we would have put off the fight. 574 00:28:20,167 --> 00:28:21,399 Correct. 575 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,868 To make sure that we were able to get weapons into Iran. 576 00:28:24,033 --> 00:28:26,167 So what's actually been proven? 577 00:28:26,334 --> 00:28:27,667 In the late 1980s, 578 00:28:27,834 --> 00:28:29,667 as the Iran-Contra scandal unfolded, 579 00:28:29,834 --> 00:28:31,501 Congress launched investigations into 580 00:28:31,667 --> 00:28:34,167 whether US covert operations had intersected 581 00:28:34,334 --> 00:28:35,767 with drug trafficking. 582 00:28:35,934 --> 00:28:38,667 Witnesses were called to testify under oath about what 583 00:28:38,834 --> 00:28:42,200 they saw, including pilot and convicted drug trafficker 584 00:28:42,367 --> 00:28:43,633 Gary Betzner. 585 00:28:43,634 --> 00:28:46,267 We found a recording from the subcommittee investigation. 586 00:28:46,434 --> 00:28:49,400 Did you use this modified Comanche for drug flights? 587 00:28:49,567 --> 00:28:52,300 - Yes, sir, I did. - For cocaine flights? 588 00:28:52,467 --> 00:28:54,968 - Yes, sir. - From where to where? 589 00:28:55,133 --> 00:28:56,067 From Columbia to... 590 00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:58,667 the Middle District of Florida. 591 00:28:58,834 --> 00:28:59,901 Where were you operating out of? 592 00:29:02,267 --> 00:29:04,868 - Lakeland. - During this 1983 period? 593 00:29:05,033 --> 00:29:06,099 Lakeland, Florida. 594 00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:08,501 Were you ever tracked by DEA or others 595 00:29:08,667 --> 00:29:09,868 during this period of time? - No. 596 00:29:10,033 --> 00:29:11,868 OK. 597 00:29:12,033 --> 00:29:13,968 You knew Richard Healy was involved with flying 598 00:29:14,133 --> 00:29:16,400 narcotics, correct? - Correct. 599 00:29:16,567 --> 00:29:19,100 Was Richard Healy also involved in assisting 600 00:29:19,267 --> 00:29:23,501 the Contras in Central America? - Yes, sir. 601 00:29:24,667 --> 00:29:27,367 So I feel like this verifies a lot of what you and I have 602 00:29:27,534 --> 00:29:30,667 been discussing as probable explanations... 603 00:29:30,834 --> 00:29:31,767 Mm-hmm. 604 00:29:31,934 --> 00:29:34,601 ...for how CIA may have been involved. 605 00:29:34,767 --> 00:29:38,400 Do I think CIA has like a drug dealing arm? 606 00:29:38,567 --> 00:29:39,767 No. Do I think maybe 607 00:29:39,934 --> 00:29:40,868 there were some small operations 608 00:29:41,033 --> 00:29:43,567 that happened? Possible, yeah. 609 00:29:43,734 --> 00:29:47,100 Coming up, I uncover how the war on drugs has quietly 610 00:29:47,267 --> 00:29:50,267 turned into a surveillance machine right here at home. 611 00:29:59,868 --> 00:30:02,501 2 So far, I've been asking a simple question. 612 00:30:02,667 --> 00:30:05,367 If we've been fighting the drug war for decades, 613 00:30:05,534 --> 00:30:07,567 why haven't we won? 614 00:30:07,734 --> 00:30:11,200 Overseas, I'm seeing a pattern where stopping drugs hasn't 615 00:30:11,367 --> 00:30:13,000 always been the priority. 616 00:30:13,167 --> 00:30:15,667 But here at home, we've spent billions of dollars 617 00:30:15,834 --> 00:30:17,400 trying to stop them. 618 00:30:17,567 --> 00:30:19,400 So if the drugs are still here, 619 00:30:19,567 --> 00:30:21,901 what exactly has all that effort been doing? 620 00:30:23,567 --> 00:30:26,000 To answer that question, I'm turning to journalist 621 00:30:26,167 --> 00:30:27,434 Radley Balko. 622 00:30:28,267 --> 00:30:31,601 I'm trying to better understand what the implications were for 623 00:30:31,767 --> 00:30:35,467 the war on drugs here back at home in the United States. 624 00:30:35,634 --> 00:30:37,467 Well, the war on drugs, I mean, it was a-- 625 00:30:37,634 --> 00:30:42,567 or is a generational gradual erosion 626 00:30:42,734 --> 00:30:44,367 of basic rights and civil liberties 627 00:30:44,534 --> 00:30:49,801 and a gradual sort of accumulation of power by 628 00:30:49,968 --> 00:30:51,567 government at all levels. 629 00:30:51,734 --> 00:30:53,801 We also saw that a lot of the provisions in 630 00:30:53,968 --> 00:30:57,300 the Patriot Act allowed federal law enforcement 631 00:30:57,467 --> 00:31:01,100 to basically spy on American citizens 632 00:31:01,267 --> 00:31:03,367 without first obtaining a warrant. 633 00:31:03,534 --> 00:31:06,400 It was overwhelmingly used in very traditional drug cases, 634 00:31:06,567 --> 00:31:09,467 not in cases of national security, not in cases of 635 00:31:09,634 --> 00:31:11,000 suspected terrorism. 636 00:31:11,167 --> 00:31:12,467 There were multiple threats growing against 637 00:31:12,634 --> 00:31:14,100 the United States-- domestic terrorists, 638 00:31:14,267 --> 00:31:17,167 there were international terrorists, radical Islam. 639 00:31:17,334 --> 00:31:19,801 How do you differentiate the impact of the drug war 640 00:31:19,968 --> 00:31:21,801 versus any of those other 641 00:31:21,968 --> 00:31:23,501 creeping, kind of seeping threats? 642 00:31:23,667 --> 00:31:25,400 You see this over and over and over again. 643 00:31:25,567 --> 00:31:29,868 A new crisis or a new sort of external threat is presented to 644 00:31:30,033 --> 00:31:32,767 the public as a reason that we need to give the government 645 00:31:32,934 --> 00:31:34,300 more and more power, and then that power is 646 00:31:34,467 --> 00:31:36,501 inevitably used in traditional drug policing. 647 00:31:36,667 --> 00:31:38,901 - Police! - Police with a warrant! Open the door! 648 00:31:39,067 --> 00:31:42,868 Because the incentive for police is to arrest 649 00:31:43,033 --> 00:31:44,199 as people as possible. 650 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,367 They get money just for how many people they arrest. 651 00:31:48,167 --> 00:31:51,100 What Radley is describing didn't happen overnight. 652 00:31:51,267 --> 00:31:54,667 It was built piece by piece in the name of fighting drugs. 653 00:31:56,868 --> 00:32:00,467 And maybe not just to enforce the law, but to expand control. 654 00:32:02,868 --> 00:32:05,667 It sounds like you're making the argument almost that 655 00:32:05,834 --> 00:32:10,000 the war on drugs has been more damaging to the American public 656 00:32:10,167 --> 00:32:11,467 than drugs themselves? 657 00:32:11,634 --> 00:32:13,000 There's no question about that. 658 00:32:13,167 --> 00:32:14,801 I mean, how much privacy are we willing to 659 00:32:14,968 --> 00:32:16,000 give up in the name of... 660 00:32:17,167 --> 00:32:18,467 safety and security? 661 00:32:18,634 --> 00:32:21,100 And of course, Ben Franklin had the famous quote, 662 00:32:21,267 --> 00:32:22,868 when you give up one for the other, you get neither. 663 00:32:23,968 --> 00:32:25,267 That's basically what we've seen. 664 00:32:25,434 --> 00:32:27,868 Drugs haven't gone away, but our privacy has. 665 00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:32,200 At CIA, we have a term called blowback. 666 00:32:32,367 --> 00:32:34,267 We use it when something happens overseas 667 00:32:34,434 --> 00:32:36,601 that affects us here at home. 668 00:32:36,767 --> 00:32:40,100 What if, in this case, that blowback isn't just rising 669 00:32:40,267 --> 00:32:41,767 addiction and violence, 670 00:32:41,934 --> 00:32:44,868 but also the police response to it? 671 00:32:45,033 --> 00:32:46,067 More enforcement, 672 00:32:46,234 --> 00:32:49,367 more surveillance, more control. 673 00:32:49,534 --> 00:32:53,968 What starts as a covert fix abroad ends up reshaping how 674 00:32:54,133 --> 00:32:56,267 we're policed here at home. 675 00:32:56,434 --> 00:32:59,167 As Radley points out, that shift may have changed 676 00:32:59,334 --> 00:33:00,633 something deeper. 677 00:33:00,634 --> 00:33:04,667 How the government sees all of us, not as citizens first, 678 00:33:04,834 --> 00:33:06,267 but as potential suspects. 679 00:33:10,801 --> 00:33:13,000 Which is why I'm meeting up with Will Freeman, 680 00:33:13,167 --> 00:33:16,200 an entrepreneur and creator of an anti-surveillance app. 681 00:33:16,367 --> 00:33:18,367 Will, thanks for coming, man. 682 00:33:18,534 --> 00:33:21,300 When the war on drugs failed to stop narcotics, 683 00:33:21,467 --> 00:33:24,300 enforcement didn't shrink. It expanded. 684 00:33:24,467 --> 00:33:26,200 And surveillance filled the gap. 685 00:33:26,367 --> 00:33:27,467 One of the clearest examples is 686 00:33:27,634 --> 00:33:29,868 sitting above our roads right now. 687 00:33:30,033 --> 00:33:32,667 License plate readers, or ALPRs. 688 00:33:34,267 --> 00:33:36,567 That tag just hit on Maple and Fifth. 689 00:33:36,734 --> 00:33:39,267 Companies like Flock Safety have deployed these cameras 690 00:33:39,434 --> 00:33:42,601 nationwide and are used by thousands of law enforcement 691 00:33:42,767 --> 00:33:44,968 agencies to build a searchable record 692 00:33:45,133 --> 00:33:46,868 of where vehicles have been. 693 00:33:47,033 --> 00:33:49,667 But critics say they don't just track suspects, 694 00:33:49,834 --> 00:33:51,167 they track everyone. 695 00:33:51,334 --> 00:33:53,467 While these camera systems have helped police with a wide 696 00:33:53,634 --> 00:33:55,167 range of investigations, 697 00:33:55,334 --> 00:33:57,400 they also raise significant privacy concerns. 698 00:33:57,567 --> 00:34:00,100 Some communities around the country are coming together 699 00:34:00,267 --> 00:34:02,567 to fight against what they say is a concerning form 700 00:34:02,734 --> 00:34:04,000 of surveillance. 701 00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:06,901 So Will built a nationwide platform called DeFlock, 702 00:34:07,067 --> 00:34:10,100 where people can search their areas for these cameras. 703 00:34:10,267 --> 00:34:12,801 I want to know how bad this privacy blowback from 704 00:34:12,968 --> 00:34:14,567 the drug epidemic has become. 705 00:34:15,968 --> 00:34:18,667 How many Flock safety cameras 706 00:34:18,834 --> 00:34:21,067 are floating around in the United States today? 707 00:34:21,234 --> 00:34:23,567 So we know for a fact it's at least 102,000. 708 00:34:23,734 --> 00:34:25,701 That came from a public records request. 709 00:34:25,868 --> 00:34:29,767 But based on a bug that was discovered, it looks like that 710 00:34:29,934 --> 00:34:31,267 could be around 300,000. 711 00:34:31,434 --> 00:34:33,400 But regardless, it's in the hundreds of thousands. 712 00:34:33,567 --> 00:34:35,000 - That's a lot of cameras. - Yeah. 713 00:34:35,167 --> 00:34:37,267 So I built DeFlock. 714 00:34:37,434 --> 00:34:39,300 Hundreds of thousands of cameras built 715 00:34:39,467 --> 00:34:41,667 in the name of stopping crime. 716 00:34:41,834 --> 00:34:44,167 Will's answer to that system was simple. 717 00:34:44,334 --> 00:34:47,000 If you can't stop it, at least make it visible. 718 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:51,267 Using crowdsourcing, Will built a live database of these 719 00:34:51,434 --> 00:34:54,601 cameras, turning an invisible network into something you can 720 00:34:54,767 --> 00:34:57,501 actually see and even avoid. 721 00:34:57,667 --> 00:35:00,701 When you pull up this map image, what is it that you see 722 00:35:00,868 --> 00:35:02,033 through your eyes? 723 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,167 I see a society that I don't want to live in. 724 00:35:04,334 --> 00:35:05,801 I don't want to be watched everywhere I go. 725 00:35:06,567 --> 00:35:10,200 So before we even get into how it works, I need to understand 726 00:35:10,367 --> 00:35:11,567 the scope of it. 727 00:35:11,734 --> 00:35:14,467 If I drove through my own hometown right now, 728 00:35:14,634 --> 00:35:16,467 how many times would I be picked up? 729 00:35:16,634 --> 00:35:17,801 All right, on the move. 730 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,667 I'll open the map and I'll make it follow us. 731 00:35:21,834 --> 00:35:23,868 Is that how you would use it to avoid these cameras? 732 00:35:24,033 --> 00:35:25,233 Yeah, you can enable alerts. 733 00:35:25,234 --> 00:35:26,901 So it'll say like, "Hey, you're coming up on a camera." 734 00:35:27,067 --> 00:35:28,701 You can even program routes in. 735 00:35:28,868 --> 00:35:32,000 So if you want to like go from point A to point B and not pass 736 00:35:32,167 --> 00:35:33,601 any license plate readers, you can do that too. 737 00:35:35,567 --> 00:35:37,767 Now, I don't really know what these things look like. 738 00:35:37,934 --> 00:35:39,901 I know you said that they're fairly obvious. 739 00:35:40,067 --> 00:35:42,367 So I'm actually really excited to see what this looks 740 00:35:42,534 --> 00:35:43,601 like up close and personal. 741 00:35:43,767 --> 00:35:44,968 Yeah, in like almost every case, 742 00:35:45,133 --> 00:35:46,767 they have a solar panel above them. 743 00:35:46,934 --> 00:35:49,868 So we should be coming up on that first signal, I think. 744 00:35:50,033 --> 00:35:52,167 Yep. I can see it right there with the solar panel. 745 00:35:52,334 --> 00:35:53,801 So yeah, if you turn right here. 746 00:35:53,968 --> 00:35:55,234 - Oh, I see it now. - Yep. 747 00:35:57,100 --> 00:36:00,067 - So this is it right here, yeah? - Yep, that's it. 748 00:36:00,234 --> 00:36:03,200 I mean, that is the proverbial eye in the sky right there. 749 00:36:03,367 --> 00:36:06,067 This is a park I've taken my kids to, so this is hitting 750 00:36:06,234 --> 00:36:07,500 very close to home. 751 00:36:07,501 --> 00:36:09,968 A lot of these parking lots will have them at like, 752 00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:12,868 all the main entrances so that they can keep track of who is 753 00:36:13,033 --> 00:36:14,166 coming and going. 754 00:36:14,167 --> 00:36:17,000 Now, is it only able to document a license plate? 755 00:36:17,167 --> 00:36:19,167 Is it also able to document people? 756 00:36:19,334 --> 00:36:22,100 It will capture your face through the windshield. 757 00:36:22,267 --> 00:36:23,701 And these are being leased by the city. 758 00:36:23,868 --> 00:36:27,667 So what that tells me is that the actual company itself has 759 00:36:27,834 --> 00:36:29,868 the ability to constantly upgrade its software. 760 00:36:30,033 --> 00:36:31,467 Yeah, exactly. 761 00:36:31,634 --> 00:36:33,767 They came out with an update pretty recently that turns all 762 00:36:33,934 --> 00:36:35,300 of these into video cameras too. 763 00:36:35,467 --> 00:36:38,100 They originally were-- only took still images. 764 00:36:38,267 --> 00:36:40,467 So it wouldn't be hard to upload it with facial 765 00:36:40,634 --> 00:36:43,467 recognition software, with some sort of signals intercept 766 00:36:43,634 --> 00:36:46,767 software, because it's really just software and antennas. 767 00:36:46,934 --> 00:36:48,667 Right, as long as the hardware is there, yeah, 768 00:36:48,834 --> 00:36:50,567 they can make it do whatever they want. 769 00:36:50,734 --> 00:36:52,767 To be fair, Flock says they don't collect 770 00:36:52,934 --> 00:36:55,100 facial recognition data, biometrics, 771 00:36:55,267 --> 00:36:58,100 or driver information, but we know the technology to 772 00:36:58,267 --> 00:36:59,801 do so exists. 773 00:36:59,968 --> 00:37:03,200 In my world, we call this "pattern of life," 774 00:37:03,367 --> 00:37:06,167 mapping someone's movements from scattered data points. 775 00:37:06,334 --> 00:37:09,701 What's striking is that this isn't happening overseas. 776 00:37:09,868 --> 00:37:13,467 It's happening here, on American streets, right now, 777 00:37:13,634 --> 00:37:15,100 and most of us have no idea. 778 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,267 Coming up, I weigh the evidence and answer the question, 779 00:37:20,434 --> 00:37:23,367 is the war on drugs real, or is it something else? 780 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,601 2 The more time I spend with Will, the more I start to see 781 00:37:33,767 --> 00:37:36,767 how something justified by the war on drugs has spread. 782 00:37:37,868 --> 00:37:38,968 All right. Well, let's follow your map 783 00:37:39,133 --> 00:37:40,434 and find the next one. - OK. 784 00:37:42,701 --> 00:37:44,701 It looks like there's a big cluster of them here at this 785 00:37:44,868 --> 00:37:46,000 intersection, not too far. 786 00:37:46,167 --> 00:37:48,100 There's like one facing every direction. 787 00:37:48,267 --> 00:37:49,234 Make a left at the light 788 00:37:50,267 --> 00:37:52,767 and go up a few blocks. - You are right. 789 00:37:52,934 --> 00:37:55,167 It is kind of unnerving knowing that 790 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,200 our entrance and our exit are all now like, stored. 791 00:38:00,367 --> 00:38:02,367 Though Flock says they typically only store data 792 00:38:02,534 --> 00:38:04,100 for 30 days. 793 00:38:04,267 --> 00:38:06,100 Yeah, most people don't think about having their location 794 00:38:06,267 --> 00:38:09,567 tracked when they go to a park or go to a trailhead or 795 00:38:09,734 --> 00:38:12,267 go to the store, go to school sometimes. 796 00:38:12,434 --> 00:38:14,667 Oh yeah, we got a Flock right there, there. 797 00:38:14,834 --> 00:38:16,367 Oh, I see them right there on the posts. 798 00:38:16,534 --> 00:38:17,467 Yeah. 799 00:38:22,267 --> 00:38:25,868 So there's a camera right here on this light post, 800 00:38:26,033 --> 00:38:29,501 a camera right there on its own dedicated posts, 801 00:38:29,667 --> 00:38:31,467 and then there's a camera over there on the other side of 802 00:38:31,634 --> 00:38:32,701 that post. - Yes. 803 00:38:32,868 --> 00:38:35,501 So we've got three of the Flock cameras. 804 00:38:35,667 --> 00:38:38,868 Now, what is that white Triple camera right there? 805 00:38:39,033 --> 00:38:40,334 That is a red light camera. 806 00:38:40,501 --> 00:38:42,667 And I actually don't hate those much because they only take 807 00:38:42,834 --> 00:38:44,767 a picture of you when you run a red light. 808 00:38:44,934 --> 00:38:47,868 So just in this intersection alone, there's 13 cameras. 809 00:38:48,033 --> 00:38:49,567 - Yeah. - Wow! 810 00:38:49,734 --> 00:38:53,167 I mean, this is really a whole new way of looking at the world 811 00:38:53,334 --> 00:38:56,267 around you when you start counting the number of cameras. 812 00:38:56,434 --> 00:38:58,167 Yeah, there are more and more of them every day. 813 00:38:59,267 --> 00:39:02,167 Spending the day with a guy mapping surveillance cameras, 814 00:39:02,334 --> 00:39:05,667 thousands of them, quietly tracking me, my family, 815 00:39:05,834 --> 00:39:07,601 my neighbors-- it got me thinking. 816 00:39:08,901 --> 00:39:12,167 Because if the war on drugs hasn't stopped drugs, 817 00:39:12,334 --> 00:39:16,200 but it has led to a system like this, then you have to ask, 818 00:39:16,367 --> 00:39:20,000 is it failing or doing exactly what it was built to do? 819 00:39:22,067 --> 00:39:24,100 So let's get back to the question that started 820 00:39:24,267 --> 00:39:25,601 this investigation. 821 00:39:25,767 --> 00:39:29,567 If we've been fighting the war on drugs for decades, 822 00:39:29,734 --> 00:39:33,200 why haven't we won? Here's what's documented. 823 00:39:33,367 --> 00:39:35,167 During covert wars in places like 824 00:39:35,334 --> 00:39:37,601 Laos, Afghanistan, and Central America, 825 00:39:37,767 --> 00:39:39,367 drug trafficking repeatedly 826 00:39:39,534 --> 00:39:41,968 intersected with US intelligence operations. 827 00:39:43,767 --> 00:39:46,167 They loaded the opium on the aircraft, 828 00:39:46,334 --> 00:39:49,567 and the aircraft flew off to the CIA base in Long Tieng. 829 00:39:50,868 --> 00:39:52,901 Here's what shows up as a pattern. 830 00:39:53,067 --> 00:39:55,801 When a larger strategic goal took priority, 831 00:39:55,968 --> 00:39:58,267 stopping communism, fighting terrorism, 832 00:39:58,434 --> 00:40:01,667 funding covert wars, the drug trade was often 833 00:40:01,834 --> 00:40:05,100 facilitated, or at the very least, tolerated. 834 00:40:05,267 --> 00:40:08,367 - So if Iran took precedence... - Yeah. 835 00:40:08,534 --> 00:40:12,567 ...then anti-narco trafficking would be 836 00:40:12,734 --> 00:40:14,133 put on the back burner. 837 00:40:16,601 --> 00:40:19,567 And in the 1980s, those same networks didn't just 838 00:40:19,734 --> 00:40:21,567 exist overseas. 839 00:40:21,734 --> 00:40:24,267 In some cases, they helped enable the flow of 840 00:40:24,434 --> 00:40:26,067 cocaine into the United States. 841 00:40:30,167 --> 00:40:32,000 What remains unproven? 842 00:40:32,167 --> 00:40:36,000 There is no clear evidence that the CIA set out to poison 843 00:40:36,167 --> 00:40:38,601 America with drugs. 844 00:40:38,767 --> 00:40:41,501 And here at home, the system that was built in 845 00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:45,267 response to those drugs, the enforcement, the cameras on 846 00:40:45,434 --> 00:40:50,901 every corner, the control, that part is absolutely real. 847 00:40:51,067 --> 00:40:53,501 And it's growing every day. 848 00:40:53,667 --> 00:40:56,100 Drugs haven't gone away, but our privacy has. 849 00:40:57,367 --> 00:41:00,701 So is the war on drugs real? Yes. 850 00:41:00,868 --> 00:41:03,100 Is it working? No. 851 00:41:03,267 --> 00:41:06,801 And that's the part that should disturb you, because the drugs 852 00:41:06,968 --> 00:41:08,400 are still here. 853 00:41:08,567 --> 00:41:11,968 The cartels are richer and more powerful than ever before. 854 00:41:12,133 --> 00:41:14,267 The government has more enforcement tools, 855 00:41:14,434 --> 00:41:17,000 more surveillance, more control. 856 00:41:17,167 --> 00:41:18,767 And ordinary citizens? 857 00:41:18,934 --> 00:41:23,567 We have less privacy and fewer rights than when we started. 858 00:41:23,734 --> 00:41:25,868 So if this really is a war... 859 00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:29,501 who's actually winning it? 69713

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