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Wow...
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There's so many things
in the sky right now.
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Let's face it.
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We live in a time
when fear and distrust
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are at an all-time high.
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There are so many
government conspiracies,
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it can be hard to tell
what's real and what's not.
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The drones off of New Jersey.
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Are they Chinese?
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Are they Russian?
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Weather control.
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The death of Jeffrey Epstein.
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The list just goes on and on,
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and nobody knows how to make
sense out of what's real...
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and what's fake.
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My name is Andrew Bustamante,
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and I am a former covert
CIA intelligence officer,
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and I'm here
to help you separate
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fact from fiction.
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Since leaving CIA,
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I've made it
my mission to shed light
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on the lies,
cover-ups, conspiracies,
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and tactics
used to conceal them.
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Now I'm going to pressure-test
the most sensational,
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ripped-from-the-headlines
conspiracy theories out there,
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and track down key experts,
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eyewitnesses,
and whistleblowers.
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I'll analyze
never-before-seen footage,
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conduct eye-opening experiments.
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These right here.
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See the drone right there
overhead, you see it?
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And demonstrations.
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Sleeping all the way down
deeper and deeper.
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It's just so fast.
It's just incredible.
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Nobody thinks of hypnotism
as a weapon.
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My mission is simple...
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Is there a tunnel that connects
us to Cheyenne Mountain?
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...to find the truth.
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Epstein was reported to have
actually hung himself
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from this side of the bed,
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which is right here.
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And arm you
with the tools you need
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to determine
for yourself what is real
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and what are you being
manipulated to believe is real.
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What in the world is going on
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in the skies over New Jersey?
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New Jersey's
own Bruce Springsteen
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once described
North Jersey's sky
with the line,
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"The sun's just a red ball
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rising over them
refinery towers,"
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but now we need to add
had a few drones.
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In November 2024,
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the folks of New Jersey
started to look up
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in the sky and see this.
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What is that?
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For nearly a month,
mysterious crafts were spotted
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night after night.
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They're just pacing back
and forth,
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going very slow.
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We've been looking
for the past hour.
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We've seen about 40
or 50 of these drones.
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In fact, there's one
over my shoulder right there.
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With distinct running lights,
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these craft were too small
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to be fixed-wing aircraft
or helicopters.
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Whatever that is,
is massive.
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But they were also too large
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to be standard
commercial drones.
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There are SUV-sized drones
flying over my home,
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and the government has no idea
what they are,
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so I'm going
to make a cocktail.
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Some were reported
to be flying in formation.
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They're all going
the same direction.
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Others were seen hovering
in place for hours.
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Oh, my goodness.
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And with residents on edge,
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they were getting little
in terms of answers.
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They have a responsibility,
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the FBI and the FAA,
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to brief the public
more thoroughly.
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And in that government silence,
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conspiracy theories
started to explode
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all over the Internet
and in mainstream media.
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Really want to know
what's going on in New Jersey?
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Radioactive material
in New Jersey has gone missing.
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Iran launched a mothership
probably about a month ago
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that contains these drones.
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The third option is--
it's non-human.
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I mean, you said it yourself.
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The New Jersey drones quickly
went from mystery to meme.
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How are you, or should I say,
what are you?
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OK, no,
we're not gonna do that.
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See, I know what I am,
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and I don't have to
explain myself to anyone.
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But serious questions
still persist.
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Why hasn't the government
provided a complete explanation,
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even a full year later?
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On this episode, I'm going
to apply my CIA background...
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Becca, you got him?
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Let's get creative here.
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...to conduct the most
comprehensive investigation
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of the New Jersey drone mystery
ever done.
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This is taking what we do
to a whole new level.
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Ho, ho, ho, ho.
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With key interviews.
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Maybe there's a unit
that's testing something out
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that not everybody's aware of.
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And real-world demonstrations.
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Kivo 1 taking off.
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So that we can separate
fact from fiction
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and understand
what was really happening
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in the skies over New Jersey
in the fall of 2024.
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Drones used to be toys.
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Holiday gifts we used to film
cool aerial shots of our homes
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or our kids' soccer games.
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Then they got useful.
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They deliver packages.
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They search for missing people.
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They entertain us
with light shows.
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Convenient, harmless,
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until they weren't.
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We all watched as small,
cheap drones became
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terrifying weapons of war
in places like Ukraine.
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So when unexplained drones
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began to pop up
on the Eastern Seaboard,
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people were concerned.
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To dig deep into the mystery
of the New Jersey drones,
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I am headed
to where it all started.
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Northern New Jersey,
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just across the Hudson River
from Manhattan.
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Here in Bergen County,
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one of the witnesses
who recorded
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the most footage of these drones
in the sky is a woman
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named Lisa Puluse.
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Let's count the drones.
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Right there, one, two,
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three, four,
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five, six, seven...
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One of them literally went
right over my house
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where you could just reach out
and touch it.
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This one's right above us.
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I didn't believe
that it could be something
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that was gonna harm us,
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but you would hear
other people talk.
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Then you're like,
well, maybe-- what if?
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What if?
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So you're making up
your own stories,
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and so is everybody else.
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When I look at a map
of northern New Jersey,
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the first thing I notice
is that Lisa and her neighbors
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live only about five miles
outside of Picatinny Arsenal.
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This is not
a typical military base.
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It's the US Army's
main laboratory
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for testing explosives,
weapons,
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and advanced hardware,
like robots and drones.
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Could there be a connection
between the base
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and the sightings
in Lisa's town?
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I'm heading over to meet
with the mayor of Mine Hill
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to find out.
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A lot of people
up in that area
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started seeing them
up and over
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around Picatinny.
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There were airspace violations.
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They then put restrictions in
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and some of the drones
still violated that.
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The one thing that got me
one night,
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I got a call from a resident,
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"Hey, mayor, the drones are
over the elementary school
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and heading toward town hall."
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The mayor even grabbed
his phone and shot
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his own video
of the fleet of drones
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that had residents on edge.
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They were in formation,
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they were kind of working
together-- a team.
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People started seeing them
as weapons and asking questions.
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I am literally freaking out
right now.
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Myself and a whole group
of people
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were trying to get real answers.
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Whoever's doing this
is tiptoeing
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right through the federal
and state laws.
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Are these things up there
to harm us?
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Are they Chinese?
Are they Russian?
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But the feds wouldn't respond.
The FAA wouldn't respond.
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The military wouldn't respond.
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And when you leave people
hanging like that,
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they're going to fill
in the blanks.
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It was November 25th
when the FAA closed the airspace
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above Picatinny Arsenal
and then extended
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that restricted zone
over a golf club
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owned by then President-Elect
Donald Trump.
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They didn't provide
a reason why,
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but you don't restrict
airspace without a reason.
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The New York Post has been
on this story from day one,
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so I reached out
to one of the first journalists
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to report on the sightings
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to find out if they believe
there could be any connection
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between the drones
and the military base.
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What was it like in the middle
of it all on the ground
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like you were?
- It was total pandemonium.
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No one really knew exactly
what the hell was going on.
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There was several agencies
that all said,
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"Everything is fine,
don't worry about it,
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no problems."
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It was like the vibes
of the mayor from "Jaws,"
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where he tells you everything
at the beach is fine,
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there's no sharks,
just so that everybody
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can continue
swimming in peace, right?
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It was incredibly frustrating.
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The number-one question is,
"Why didn't Picatinny Arsenal
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shoot down the drones that were
in their airspace
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operating illegally?"
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It seems to me that it wasn't
exactly just commercial drones
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and miss-sightings that was
going on in New Jersey in 2024.
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There was something else
going on.
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If the government
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wasn't shooting
down the aircraft
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that were violating
the restricted zone,
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you have to wonder,
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did the government already know
what was going on?
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We have footage of a formation
flight that's traveling
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from one side
of Picatinny Arsenal
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to the other side
of Picatinny Arsenal.
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With so many sightings,
in such a small area,
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it actually elevated
to the level
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where the President himself
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had to make comments.
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Is there a chance
that this could be related
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to some kind of secret
US government operation
at Picatinny?
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It's an intriguing lead,
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but we're getting ahead
of ourselves.
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Before we jump to the conclusion
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that these drones were part
of some kind of conspiracy
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or cover up,
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I want to start
with what my training taught me.
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At CIA, we're taught to follow
very strict rules of analysis,
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something called Razors.
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And the first Razor
that we learn
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is something called
Occam's Razor,
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which states
that the simplest explanation
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is oftentimes
the correct explanation.
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So the question is, "Was there
something strange happening
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"in the skies over New Jersey,
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or were those lights nothing
out of the ordinary?"
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To answer that question,
I've arranged a meeting
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with a pilot from Skydio,
a company whose drones are used
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by police departments
and first responders
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all over the country.
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- Hello.
- Hey, Andy, how's it going?
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Ken Van Hese
is a former Navy SEAL
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who flew drones
on classified missions
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all over the world.
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If anyone can help me try
and understand what was going on
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over in New Jersey, he can.
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I want to start by showing
you a video that I received
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from a woman named Lisa.
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Lisa lives on a hill
above Picatinny Arsenal.
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Let's count how many drones--
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we got, one, two...
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three, four...
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There's a lot more than
I thought it was going to be.
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...six... there's seven...
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And as she's counting these,
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you can see that she's moving
her camera in one direction
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- Yeah.
- Which suggests that all
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the drones are going
in a predominant direction.
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Would it be possible for us
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to recreate what we just saw
in this video?
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We can take a try
and see if we can do it.
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- Let's do it.
- Awesome.
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Matt and I will be
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the multi-drone
remote flight deck operator.
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Wes, you'll be covering down
on thermal.
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- Let's do it.
- All right.
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- All right.
- Kivo 1 taking off.
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Some witnesses
said the crafts they saw
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were much larger than these.
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But what I wanted to recreate
wasn't the size,
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it was the visual effect.
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When multiple drones
move together at night,
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it can trigger something called
perception bias,
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where a few small lights
in the sky
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suddenly look much bigger
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and much more ominous
than they really are.
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I never think of flying a drone
from a laptop.
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I always think of it
from a control.
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- The future is here.
- Holy smokes.
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So now what we're gonna take
them is right across
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the horizon and see if we can
recreate what she saw.
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OK.
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All right, three, two,
one, go.
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Look at that.
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That is exactly
what she sent us in the video.
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Two, three, four.
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She watched and counted them
in the sky.
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You can count them right now
yourself as they move
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across the horizon
from one point to another
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in one predominant direction.
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So then, Ken, what's your theory
about what was happening
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in the skies over New Jersey?
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And do you think any of it could
have been Skydio technology?
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I think it could have
been Skydio.
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We do have
law enforcement customers
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in the New Jersey area,
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so I think they could
have been flying a drone
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as first-responder,
uh, missions.
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I don't think
the average American recognizes
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that police forces
fly drones at all.
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They don't.
I think that's good for cops.
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I think when people see drones
in the sky,
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it keeps the person honest.
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The tech is here,
and it's not going anywhere.
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A police drone theory
might not be too far-fetched.
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The Jersey sightings coincided
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with one of the most shocking
events of 2024--
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when UnitedHealthcare CEO
Brian Thompson was gunned down
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in cold blood
on the streets of New York.
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CEO Brian Thompson
was killed Wednesday morning.
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This was a premeditated,
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preplanned, brazen,
targeted attack.
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And a massive hunt
for Luigi Mangione was underway.
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After a frantic,
three-day manhunt,
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tonight the NYPD now believes
the suspect who gunned down
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UnitedHealthcare CEO
Brian Thompson
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has escaped New York City.
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Coming up--
could it be that simple?
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Could the Jersey drone mystery
be explained by an increase
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in police drones
patrolling our skies
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that most people
are just not aware of?
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2
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Two weeks after
the initial drone sightings,
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on December 4th, 2024,
everyone's attention shifted.
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Federal authorities widened
the urgent manhunt for a killer.
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The NYPD deploying drones.
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Drones played a critical role
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in the manhunt
for Luigi Mangione,
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the suspect of the killing
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of UnitedHealthcare
CEO Brian Thompson.
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Law enforcement drones ran
grid searches over Central Park.
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They helped locate
early physical evidence,
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and then they fanned out
across the tri-state area
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as he fled.
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But here's the thing,
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that manhunt happened
more than two weeks
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after the initial sighting,
so that explanation falls apart.
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Nevertheless,
drone pilot Ken Van Hese
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told me he believes
the answer is police
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and first-responder
drone activity
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the public is just
noticing for the first time.
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Ken's theory sparks
my curiosity.
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So I decided to have
a little fun.
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I want to see firsthand
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what a drone tracking someone
looks like
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with a test of how my CIA
evasion and escape techniques
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stack up against the latest
police drone technology.
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So I asked Ken
to set up a manhunt
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with the local police
department,
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the target-- me.
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We're going to see how long
we can track and follow you.
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My job is just to evade
for as long as possible
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and try to escape detection.
- Exactly.
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I had no idea that
over 1,400 police departments
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fly drones every day
for all sorts of missions.
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Check, maybe, Colorado
and Nevada.
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I'm going to start using
my peripheral vision to try
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to identify anything in the sky
that's looking for me.
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This is nerve-wracking as hell.
367
00:16:57,534 --> 00:16:59,000
In my seven years at CIA,
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00:16:59,167 --> 00:17:02,667
I spent much of it
operating overseas undercover.
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I got used to people
trying to follow me.
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Learning how
to shake surveillance
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is basic tradecraft,
but losing a drone
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in the in the sky,
that's a different game.
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There's a very real instinct
to run when you know somebody
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is on your tail.
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But a professional
has to fight that instinct.
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OK...
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I saw the drone in the sky.
All right,
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let's get creative here.
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I have a real chance
of blending in with a crowd.
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So all of these folks are
hanging out.
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Can I walk in here
with you guys?
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Alright.
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00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,601
Well, it's not easy
to get accomplices
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for this kind of stuff.
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But that's not
the only trick up my sleeve.
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I need a place
where the drone can't see me
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and what I'm doing.
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00:18:00,934 --> 00:18:03,868
I'm actually going to go
into an underground bar.
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It's open.
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00:18:05,968 --> 00:18:07,167
We are now underground.
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00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,801
Um, it's
a very strange question.
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Is there an exit other
than this from this building?
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Alright.
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00:18:29,367 --> 00:18:33,501
We got our back exit
out of the bar.
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So now the question is
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whether or not
the drone's gonna find us.
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00:18:40,934 --> 00:18:43,467
OK, we are
underneath a canopy.
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00:18:43,634 --> 00:18:45,567
I hear a drone
passing overhead.
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There it goes.
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00:18:47,267 --> 00:18:48,667
It's going towards
the opposite direction.
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00:18:48,834 --> 00:18:50,767
So we're going
to continue our walk.
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00:18:50,934 --> 00:18:52,801
Hopefully that means there's
a battery problem.
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00:19:01,601 --> 00:19:04,100
We are literally
feet away from a place
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00:19:04,267 --> 00:19:06,467
that might be my safe haven.
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00:19:11,767 --> 00:19:13,100
How you doing?
How you doing?
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00:19:21,534 --> 00:19:23,234
Ah!
Cheers!
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00:19:25,701 --> 00:19:29,100
I was able to beat the drone
by exploiting a weakness.
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00:19:29,267 --> 00:19:32,601
Even these expensive
police drones are small in scale
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and have battery limits.
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00:19:34,434 --> 00:19:36,501
But many of the drones reported
over New Jersey
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were seen flying for hours.
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Police drones may have been
part of the puzzle,
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but I'm not convinced that
they're the sole explanation,
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which leads me to a number
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of other wild
conspiracy theories
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that exploded on social media.
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00:19:50,901 --> 00:19:53,501
One of the first conspiracy
theories to go viral
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came from reality TV star
Bethenny Frankel.
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00:19:56,567 --> 00:19:58,667
There are many
different theories.
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One, that the government,
our government,
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is searching for something
that has been lost.
422
00:20:04,267 --> 00:20:05,868
There have been many nuclear Ws
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00:20:06,033 --> 00:20:08,000
that were lost
during different wars.
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Something could be disassembled
and then reassembled here.
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00:20:11,834 --> 00:20:14,367
Soon, people across
the tri-state area started
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00:20:14,534 --> 00:20:17,300
freaking out that the drones
were part of a search
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00:20:17,467 --> 00:20:19,567
for some kind of loose nuke.
428
00:20:20,868 --> 00:20:24,400
There were over 80 nuclear
warheads
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00:20:24,567 --> 00:20:26,767
that were in Ukraine
that came up missing.
430
00:20:26,934 --> 00:20:28,167
It's out there.
431
00:20:28,334 --> 00:20:29,601
Nobody knows where it's at now.
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00:20:29,767 --> 00:20:31,901
And then rumors, of course,
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00:20:32,067 --> 00:20:33,100
come out on the Internet
434
00:20:33,267 --> 00:20:35,667
that there may be
some dire situation.
435
00:20:35,834 --> 00:20:39,601
They could very possibly be
sniffing out
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00:20:39,767 --> 00:20:41,467
something very dangerous.
437
00:20:41,634 --> 00:20:44,167
How crazy was Bethenny's post?
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00:20:44,334 --> 00:20:45,701
Maybe not so much.
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00:20:45,868 --> 00:20:47,467
Before my time at CIA,
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00:20:47,634 --> 00:20:51,100
I was a US Air Force
nuclear missile officer.
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00:20:51,267 --> 00:20:53,667
So let's walk through
what would happen if there was
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00:20:53,834 --> 00:20:55,667
a dirty bomb in New Jersey.
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00:20:55,834 --> 00:20:57,701
You'd start quietly.
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00:20:57,868 --> 00:21:00,601
Radiation detection teams,
aircraft with sniffers.
445
00:21:00,767 --> 00:21:02,601
These are systems
that already exist.
446
00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:07,567
The public would in fact see
more aircraft in the skies.
447
00:21:07,734 --> 00:21:09,300
Helicopters,
fixed-wing aircraft,
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even drones flying
tight-grid search patterns.
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00:21:13,267 --> 00:21:16,167
What you wouldn't hear is,
"Good morning, there may be
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a missing nuclear device
in your neighborhood."
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00:21:18,534 --> 00:21:21,968
So what people were seeing
could fit this pattern.
452
00:21:22,133 --> 00:21:24,801
And a loose nuke
isn't science fiction.
453
00:21:26,367 --> 00:21:30,167
In 1961,
a US Air Force B-52 bomber
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00:21:30,334 --> 00:21:32,567
broke apart over North Carolina
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00:21:32,734 --> 00:21:36,100
and dropped
two fully armed hydrogen bombs.
456
00:21:36,267 --> 00:21:38,100
We call this a Broken Arrow.
457
00:21:38,267 --> 00:21:40,367
One of them nearly went off.
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00:21:40,534 --> 00:21:43,367
The public didn't learn
how close that was
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00:21:43,534 --> 00:21:46,367
until decades later.
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00:21:46,534 --> 00:21:48,501
But in this case,
you're probably not surprised
461
00:21:48,667 --> 00:21:51,601
to learn there was no missing
radiological weapon.
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00:21:51,767 --> 00:21:54,868
Energy agencies knocking down
an alarming theory
463
00:21:55,033 --> 00:21:56,767
saying it's just not true.
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00:21:56,934 --> 00:21:59,767
Authorities even addressed
the rumor in time.
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00:21:59,934 --> 00:22:02,167
That statement goes on to say
that nuclear officials
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00:22:02,334 --> 00:22:05,200
are not currently conducting
any aerial operations
467
00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:06,968
in that region.
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00:22:07,133 --> 00:22:08,567
What went missing was
a small amount
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00:22:08,734 --> 00:22:11,567
of radioactive material
that was used for testing.
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00:22:11,734 --> 00:22:13,968
It had nothing to do
with the drones,
471
00:22:14,133 --> 00:22:15,501
but that didn't matter.
472
00:22:15,667 --> 00:22:18,267
This is what happens
when national security anxiety
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00:22:18,434 --> 00:22:20,067
collides with social media,
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00:22:20,234 --> 00:22:22,367
and fear is rewarded
with clicks.
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00:22:22,534 --> 00:22:26,167
Speculation takes over,
and facts are forgotten.
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00:22:26,334 --> 00:22:27,566
And within days,
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00:22:27,567 --> 00:22:31,267
the New Jersey drone mystery
went from a dirty-bomb scare
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00:22:31,434 --> 00:22:33,100
to a full-on invasion.
479
00:22:33,267 --> 00:22:35,167
Only this time,
it wasn't a real housewife
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00:22:35,334 --> 00:22:38,000
raising the alarm.
It was a police officer.
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00:23:10,868 --> 00:23:12,601
2
We don't have any video
from her,
482
00:23:12,767 --> 00:23:14,767
but this isn't
a random person with a phone.
483
00:23:14,934 --> 00:23:17,767
This is a 911 call
from a trained officer.
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00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,767
This was Ocean County,
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00:23:34,934 --> 00:23:36,934
about 100 miles
south of Mine Hill,
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00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:39,367
where civilian
and eyewitness Lisa Puluse was
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00:23:39,534 --> 00:23:42,267
first recording drones
above her home.
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00:23:42,434 --> 00:23:45,567
A 911 call that came
from a state park police officer
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00:23:45,734 --> 00:23:47,767
who wasn't sure
what she was seeing.
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00:23:47,934 --> 00:23:50,734
She described it
as a giant swarm of drones
491
00:23:50,901 --> 00:23:53,067
coming in from over the ocean.
492
00:23:53,234 --> 00:23:56,000
This sighting was one of many
that happened in the region,
493
00:23:56,167 --> 00:23:58,834
and the sheriff down there
started to raise the alarm.
494
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,267
We have flight radar
mapping capabilities,
495
00:24:02,434 --> 00:24:07,200
and we did not see anything
indicating it was a plane.
496
00:24:07,367 --> 00:24:08,767
Obviously, they want us to know
they're there.
497
00:24:08,934 --> 00:24:10,300
They put on their lights.
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00:24:10,467 --> 00:24:13,567
Uh, so, who it is,
I wish I could tell you,
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00:24:13,734 --> 00:24:15,267
but, you know, obviously,
there's a lot of tension
500
00:24:15,434 --> 00:24:16,734
to this matter throughout.
501
00:24:16,901 --> 00:24:18,868
What struck me when I heard
this 911 call
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00:24:19,033 --> 00:24:21,167
was the sheer number of drones
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00:24:21,334 --> 00:24:24,267
and that they seemed to be
coming from a ship offshore.
504
00:24:24,434 --> 00:24:25,968
What did your office do?
505
00:24:26,133 --> 00:24:28,467
We immediately contacted
the Coast Guard.
506
00:24:28,634 --> 00:24:32,601
We reported back around 11:30
that night that there was
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00:24:32,767 --> 00:24:35,267
11 or 13 of them following
their Coast Guard cutter.
508
00:24:37,033 --> 00:24:38,501
One drone that they documented,
509
00:24:38,667 --> 00:24:40,100
it didn't give a heat signal
510
00:24:40,267 --> 00:24:42,934
and it needed another type
of fuel source.
511
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:45,367
Nobody saw them
take off or land.
512
00:24:45,534 --> 00:24:47,067
And that's interesting,
'cause at some point,
513
00:24:47,234 --> 00:24:48,767
you would have to take off
or land.
514
00:24:48,934 --> 00:24:52,267
So for us, the indication would
be that it's possibly coming
515
00:24:52,434 --> 00:24:56,467
off the ocean
and possibly a submarine.
516
00:24:56,634 --> 00:24:58,200
What the sheriff
went on to tell me
517
00:24:58,367 --> 00:24:59,601
is really quite alarming.
518
00:24:59,767 --> 00:25:03,367
A swarm of drones tracking
a Coast Guard Cutter.
519
00:25:03,534 --> 00:25:06,601
The strange thing being that
they showed no heat signature,
520
00:25:06,767 --> 00:25:09,567
which suggests that possibly
they were trying to cloak.
521
00:25:09,734 --> 00:25:10,700
I mean, this sounds more
522
00:25:10,701 --> 00:25:13,501
like advanced
military-grade technology.
523
00:25:13,667 --> 00:25:16,067
And that's why
when a congressman went on TV
524
00:25:16,234 --> 00:25:17,734
and made
the following announcement
525
00:25:17,901 --> 00:25:20,367
it was a New Jersey resident's
worst nightmare.
526
00:25:20,534 --> 00:25:22,300
I'm going to tell
you the real deal.
527
00:25:22,467 --> 00:25:25,100
Um, Iran launched a mothership
528
00:25:25,267 --> 00:25:27,033
probably about a month ago,
529
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,934
that contains these drones.
530
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:30,367
- That mothership is off--
- Really?
531
00:25:30,534 --> 00:25:32,033
I'm going to tell you the deal.
532
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,267
It's off the east coast
of the United States of America.
533
00:25:35,434 --> 00:25:36,767
They've launched drones.
534
00:25:36,934 --> 00:25:38,367
It's everything
that we can see or hear,
535
00:25:38,534 --> 00:25:40,367
and again,
these are from high sources.
536
00:25:40,534 --> 00:25:42,267
I don't say this lightly.
537
00:25:44,734 --> 00:25:46,667
Was there an Iranian mothership
538
00:25:46,834 --> 00:25:49,734
launching an aerial invasion
near Atlantic City?
539
00:25:49,901 --> 00:25:52,868
If anyone can help me separate
the facts from the fear
540
00:25:53,033 --> 00:25:55,868
on this, it's my friend,
Trevor Fortner,
541
00:25:56,033 --> 00:26:00,067
a former US Navy
counterterrorism
special operator.
542
00:26:00,234 --> 00:26:03,734
- Thank you for coming, brother.
- It's great to see you, Andy.
543
00:26:03,901 --> 00:26:04,968
What can I do for you?
544
00:26:05,133 --> 00:26:06,667
So, I've been chewing
on this question
545
00:26:06,834 --> 00:26:09,200
of the drone sightings
that happened in New Jersey
546
00:26:09,367 --> 00:26:10,400
about a year ago.
- OK.
547
00:26:10,567 --> 00:26:12,601
And there were all
these rumors circulating
548
00:26:12,767 --> 00:26:14,834
about whether or not there was
an Iranian mothership
549
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,667
launching drones
into the mainland.
550
00:26:16,834 --> 00:26:17,833
How would the United States
551
00:26:17,834 --> 00:26:19,868
react to a foreign
naval threat like that?
552
00:26:20,033 --> 00:26:22,834
I don't believe that we would
have allowed them to actually
553
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,467
get that close to the country.
554
00:26:24,634 --> 00:26:26,734
So even though
it's international water,
555
00:26:26,901 --> 00:26:30,267
it's not really free water
for anyone to just sail in?
556
00:26:30,434 --> 00:26:33,267
Not from our perspective, no.
We have a nautical statute.
557
00:26:33,434 --> 00:26:34,567
It's 15 nautical miles.
558
00:26:34,734 --> 00:26:37,267
It becomes
international territory.
559
00:26:37,434 --> 00:26:39,100
After that,
we're still monitoring that
560
00:26:39,267 --> 00:26:40,834
and observing what's happening.
561
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,100
Had there been
a foreign threat,
562
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,267
what's your confidence level
the US military
563
00:26:44,434 --> 00:26:46,000
would have neutralized
the threat before it even got
564
00:26:46,167 --> 00:26:47,667
close enough to pose
direct harm?
565
00:26:47,834 --> 00:26:50,100
- One hundred percent.
- That's where I am too, man,
566
00:26:50,267 --> 00:26:52,601
'cause they would have been sunk
in the water.
567
00:26:52,767 --> 00:26:54,367
I believe that 100%.
568
00:26:55,934 --> 00:27:00,067
Also, what would be the intent
of Iran to send a mothership
569
00:27:00,234 --> 00:27:04,100
so close to our shore and launch
drones into our airspace
570
00:27:04,267 --> 00:27:06,400
that they know that we can
absolutely detect?
571
00:27:06,567 --> 00:27:09,567
There's easier ways,
more efficient ways
572
00:27:09,734 --> 00:27:13,767
to clandestinely sneak items
into the country.
573
00:27:18,033 --> 00:27:19,067
Trevor's right.
574
00:27:19,234 --> 00:27:22,100
A ship-based attack
isn't very likely.
575
00:27:22,267 --> 00:27:24,367
Boats are slow and trackable.
576
00:27:24,534 --> 00:27:25,634
The nightmare scenario
577
00:27:25,801 --> 00:27:28,167
for every national security
professional I know
578
00:27:28,334 --> 00:27:31,200
is a drone
attack launched from inside
579
00:27:31,367 --> 00:27:32,734
our own borders
580
00:27:32,901 --> 00:27:36,300
by a group of non-state actors
or terrorists.
581
00:27:36,467 --> 00:27:39,200
So if it wasn't a foreign enemy,
we have to test
582
00:27:39,367 --> 00:27:41,300
the domestic threat idea.
583
00:27:41,467 --> 00:27:44,868
How fast could a drone swarm
go airborne?
584
00:27:45,033 --> 00:27:47,467
And how hard would it be
to stop?
585
00:27:58,267 --> 00:28:00,133
2
I'm in the middle
of a suburban area.
586
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:02,968
I have a white picket fence
right here.
587
00:28:03,133 --> 00:28:06,267
I have a petroleum depot
just over there in the distance.
588
00:28:06,434 --> 00:28:08,267
I have multiple schools
and churches
589
00:28:08,434 --> 00:28:09,567
all within the area.
590
00:28:09,734 --> 00:28:13,067
This is a fantastic place
to demonstrate the power
591
00:28:13,234 --> 00:28:15,100
of a drone swarm.
592
00:28:16,267 --> 00:28:19,567
A location like this
is what we call a soft target.
593
00:28:19,734 --> 00:28:21,868
And that's what the sheriff
in Ocean County, New Jersey,
594
00:28:22,033 --> 00:28:24,601
was so worried about
when an officer reported seeing
595
00:28:24,767 --> 00:28:26,133
a swarm of 50 drones.
596
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,367
We tried to ascertain,
"Is this a government agency?
597
00:28:30,534 --> 00:28:33,267
Is this the CIA?
Is this the federal government?"
598
00:28:33,434 --> 00:28:36,567
Obviously, we're thinking
national security.
599
00:28:36,734 --> 00:28:38,734
I'm going to talk to the guys
operating these drones
600
00:28:38,901 --> 00:28:41,467
to understand if the threat
of a drone swarm
601
00:28:41,634 --> 00:28:43,567
could be the key
to finally unraveling
602
00:28:43,734 --> 00:28:46,167
the mystery
of the New Jersey drones.
603
00:28:46,334 --> 00:28:49,567
That is an incredible display.
604
00:28:49,734 --> 00:28:51,267
Yeah, just a little
80-drone demo
605
00:28:51,434 --> 00:28:52,601
we put together.
606
00:28:52,767 --> 00:28:55,267
We spent a lot of time out here
just testing out
607
00:28:55,434 --> 00:28:57,501
different configurations
and fleet sizes.
608
00:28:57,667 --> 00:29:00,968
We're operating
a giant fleet of drones.
609
00:29:01,133 --> 00:29:03,300
These guys
aren't military contractors.
610
00:29:03,467 --> 00:29:05,567
They're a private drone
entertainment company.
611
00:29:05,734 --> 00:29:08,734
Everything they need to launch
their coordinated drone shows
612
00:29:08,901 --> 00:29:11,167
fits in the back of a truck.
613
00:29:11,334 --> 00:29:13,968
And with a single laptop,
one person can launch
614
00:29:14,133 --> 00:29:16,868
and coordinate hundreds
of drones.
615
00:29:17,033 --> 00:29:20,367
It's interesting to me that
you describe this as a "fleet,"
616
00:29:20,534 --> 00:29:22,667
but when you have to sign up
for a waiver with the FAA,
617
00:29:22,834 --> 00:29:24,667
it's considered a "swarm."
618
00:29:24,834 --> 00:29:27,000
Is there a difference
in terminology?
619
00:29:27,167 --> 00:29:29,834
We refer to it "a fleet"
because we have telemetry data
620
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000
and communications
with everything individually.
621
00:29:32,167 --> 00:29:33,367
So we can control everything.
622
00:29:33,534 --> 00:29:35,834
"Swarm" is a little bit more
terrifying because it just
623
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,367
kind of speaks to,
like, controlled chaos.
624
00:29:39,534 --> 00:29:41,467
You know, we're in a suburban
area right now.
625
00:29:41,634 --> 00:29:44,267
There are some very interesting
soft targets.
626
00:29:44,434 --> 00:29:46,167
If you look
at this very same community
627
00:29:46,334 --> 00:29:47,934
through the eyes of a threat,
628
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,167
how easy would it
be for someone to take
629
00:29:50,334 --> 00:29:53,000
a commercial drone and use it
for something nefarious?
630
00:29:54,067 --> 00:29:56,667
- Very easy-- very easy.
- , yeah.
631
00:29:56,834 --> 00:29:58,467
Yeah, very easy.
Could probably do it
in five minutes,
632
00:29:58,634 --> 00:30:00,033
honestly, at least now.
633
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,868
- Scary.
- That is scary.
634
00:30:02,033 --> 00:30:03,300
And that is what we're seeing
635
00:30:03,467 --> 00:30:04,934
play out all over
the world right now.
636
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:06,667
Yeah, very prevalent
in Ukraine, for sure.
637
00:30:06,834 --> 00:30:08,667
Very, very prevalent.
638
00:30:08,834 --> 00:30:10,934
Drones have transformed
the battlefield,
639
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,300
no more so than in Ukraine...
640
00:30:13,467 --> 00:30:15,501
...helping the smaller country
bog down
641
00:30:15,667 --> 00:30:18,767
their Russian invaders
into a near stalemate.
642
00:30:18,934 --> 00:30:21,467
And what terrifies my national
security friends most...
643
00:30:21,634 --> 00:30:23,667
is an attack like this.
644
00:30:23,834 --> 00:30:26,567
Tonight, the Kremlin's seeing
the biggest drone attack yet
645
00:30:26,734 --> 00:30:28,000
inside Russia.
646
00:30:28,167 --> 00:30:29,567
Back in 2025,
647
00:30:29,734 --> 00:30:31,834
Ukrainian operators
hid armed drones
648
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,267
inside specially camouflaged
truck beds.
649
00:30:34,434 --> 00:30:35,601
Then those trucks were driven
650
00:30:35,767 --> 00:30:38,200
thousands of miles deep
into Russian territory.
651
00:30:39,667 --> 00:30:42,601
The operators
remotely activated the drones,
652
00:30:42,767 --> 00:30:45,567
and a coordinated swarm
lifted off,
653
00:30:45,734 --> 00:30:48,167
striking multiple Russian
military airfields,
654
00:30:48,334 --> 00:30:49,868
taking out scores of planes
655
00:30:50,033 --> 00:30:53,167
before the Russians even
understood what was happening.
656
00:30:53,334 --> 00:30:55,067
The lesson wasn't the drones.
657
00:30:55,234 --> 00:30:57,133
The lesson was the tactic--
658
00:30:57,300 --> 00:31:00,300
an attack that launched
from inside an enemy's homeland
659
00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:02,267
that was nearly impossible
to stop.
660
00:31:04,734 --> 00:31:06,501
So this is our new warehouse.
661
00:31:06,667 --> 00:31:08,567
We just outgrew our last one.
662
00:31:08,734 --> 00:31:09,868
Ho, ho, ho, ho.
663
00:31:10,033 --> 00:31:13,200
This is our new system,
which is basically taking
664
00:31:13,367 --> 00:31:15,834
what we do to a whole new level.
665
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,767
These drones will fly
out of the box,
666
00:31:18,934 --> 00:31:22,100
do their whole show, finish,
and they'll land
667
00:31:22,267 --> 00:31:25,367
exactly back inside of the spot
that they took out of.
668
00:31:25,534 --> 00:31:30,100
I'd say out of 2,000 drones,
maybe one will miss their slot.
669
00:31:30,267 --> 00:31:32,367
That's how accurate
these drones are.
670
00:31:32,534 --> 00:31:33,601
Now, when I was in the military
671
00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:34,933
and when I served at CIA,
672
00:31:34,934 --> 00:31:37,467
the drones that we were
dealing with were gigantic.
673
00:31:37,634 --> 00:31:39,934
They were the size
of a Volkswagen Beetle.
674
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:41,167
And they would carry out
675
00:31:41,334 --> 00:31:42,734
reconnaissance missions,
surveillance missions.
676
00:31:42,901 --> 00:31:45,567
They would drop missiles
from high altitude.
677
00:31:45,734 --> 00:31:48,300
So this is
the whole motherboard.
678
00:31:48,467 --> 00:31:51,868
This is what the brains are
of one of these drones.
679
00:31:52,033 --> 00:31:53,467
This is it.
This is a drone.
680
00:31:53,634 --> 00:31:55,868
They barely are heavy enough
to have to be registered
681
00:31:56,033 --> 00:31:57,567
with the FAA.
That's how light they are.
682
00:31:57,734 --> 00:32:00,734
When I see
the drone light shows
683
00:32:00,901 --> 00:32:02,834
coming in,
especially from Asia.
684
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,734
I can't help but be intimidated
by what could be done
685
00:32:06,901 --> 00:32:08,467
with a military grade drone.
686
00:32:08,634 --> 00:32:10,367
Is there a one-to-one
correlation there?
687
00:32:10,534 --> 00:32:12,501
A lot of the components
are the same.
688
00:32:12,667 --> 00:32:14,734
Those are the same drones
that could be used
689
00:32:14,901 --> 00:32:16,667
in a military application.
690
00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:18,000
When you take all of this
691
00:32:18,167 --> 00:32:19,467
and you apply it
to New Jersey...
692
00:32:19,634 --> 00:32:20,868
It's not so much that we saw
693
00:32:21,033 --> 00:32:24,167
some amazing
technological advancement
694
00:32:24,334 --> 00:32:25,667
that we'd never seen before,
695
00:32:25,834 --> 00:32:28,934
but I think it was more
that it was happening in a space
696
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:31,667
and in a pattern
that people had not seen before,
697
00:32:31,834 --> 00:32:33,868
but I think there is
a weak point
698
00:32:34,033 --> 00:32:37,200
in our airspace,
low altitude.
699
00:32:37,367 --> 00:32:38,467
You know, we don't see
a lot of things
700
00:32:38,634 --> 00:32:39,868
operate in that airspace.
701
00:32:40,033 --> 00:32:41,868
You know,
zero to a thousand feet is,
702
00:32:42,033 --> 00:32:43,868
maybe if you live near
an airport or a helipad,
703
00:32:44,033 --> 00:32:45,767
you see activity,
704
00:32:45,934 --> 00:32:47,767
but otherwise
you don't see anything.
705
00:32:48,934 --> 00:32:50,233
Graham is right.
706
00:32:50,234 --> 00:32:52,667
We've all seen the movies where
drug runners skim the ocean
707
00:32:52,834 --> 00:32:54,868
to avoid Coast Guard radar.
708
00:32:55,033 --> 00:32:57,300
So when it comes
to tiny five-pound drones
709
00:32:57,467 --> 00:32:59,501
operating at treetop levels,
710
00:32:59,667 --> 00:33:01,367
you can imagine
how hard it would be
711
00:33:01,534 --> 00:33:02,767
to track these.
712
00:33:02,934 --> 00:33:03,868
But remember,
713
00:33:04,033 --> 00:33:05,367
a lot of the sightings
were craft
714
00:33:05,534 --> 00:33:07,133
much larger than this.
715
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:08,667
What do you think
was happening in New Jersey
716
00:33:08,834 --> 00:33:10,266
as experts in drones?
717
00:33:10,267 --> 00:33:12,367
I go back and forth on whether
it was our own government,
718
00:33:12,534 --> 00:33:14,501
you know,
maybe a radar detection,
719
00:33:14,667 --> 00:33:16,100
jamming technology,
720
00:33:16,267 --> 00:33:18,601
or maybe
it's even a social experiment.
721
00:33:18,767 --> 00:33:21,834
Like, how are people going
to react to weird stuff
722
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,067
they start seeing
at low altitude?
723
00:33:24,234 --> 00:33:26,033
I got one more thing
I want to show you.
724
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,267
The guys had something up
pretty crazy for you.
725
00:33:28,434 --> 00:33:30,467
So why don't we step back
outside again?
726
00:33:30,634 --> 00:33:32,133
Absolutely.
727
00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:33,868
- Alright, let's go.
- Ready.
728
00:33:47,167 --> 00:33:48,467
It's just incredible to think
729
00:33:48,634 --> 00:33:50,467
that every one of those lights
in the sky
730
00:33:50,634 --> 00:33:54,000
is being controlled
by one single operator,
731
00:33:54,167 --> 00:33:55,934
somebody who's on our side.
732
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,767
But just imagine
what would happen
733
00:33:57,934 --> 00:33:59,734
if somebody
with hostile intentions
734
00:33:59,901 --> 00:34:01,467
took control
of those drones.
735
00:34:01,634 --> 00:34:03,467
What kind of damage
could they inflict?
736
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,667
Russian drones were
spotted within NATO airspace,
737
00:34:07,834 --> 00:34:09,267
this time in Romania.
738
00:34:10,868 --> 00:34:12,767
If the government
was running exercises
739
00:34:12,934 --> 00:34:14,467
to prepare for such an attack,
740
00:34:14,634 --> 00:34:16,367
they'd keep it under wraps.
741
00:34:16,534 --> 00:34:18,467
But before we jump
to this conclusion,
742
00:34:18,634 --> 00:34:22,501
I need to pressure-test
a more otherworldly theory.
743
00:34:22,667 --> 00:34:24,200
They're not just
like regular drones.
744
00:34:24,367 --> 00:34:25,467
They're UAPs.
745
00:34:25,634 --> 00:34:27,667
That's the UFO.
746
00:34:27,834 --> 00:34:29,167
At Malmstrom Air Force Base,
747
00:34:29,334 --> 00:34:31,767
ten of our nuclear ICBMs
were rendered inoperable.
748
00:34:31,934 --> 00:34:33,467
At the same time,
a glowing red orb
749
00:34:33,634 --> 00:34:34,868
was observed overhead.
750
00:34:35,033 --> 00:34:38,467
Coming up, UFOs,
government preparedness tests,
751
00:34:38,634 --> 00:34:40,267
or police drones?
752
00:34:40,434 --> 00:34:43,200
We may finally get our answers
to the mysterious drones
753
00:34:43,367 --> 00:34:44,467
flying over New Jersey.
754
00:34:52,501 --> 00:34:54,467
2
Driving home,
I keep replaying it.
755
00:34:54,634 --> 00:34:56,868
Takes a lot to scare me,
but the New Jersey...
756
00:34:57,033 --> 00:34:59,234
- The rumors...
- Radioactive
material in New Jersey
757
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,100
has gone missing.
- ...the confusion.
758
00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:03,133
Iran launched a mothership.
759
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:05,067
Weeks of theories about Iran,
760
00:35:05,234 --> 00:35:07,133
missing weapons,
manhunts that spread
761
00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:10,467
across New Jersey from
November into December 2024.
762
00:35:10,634 --> 00:35:13,767
Right there.
Oh, my goodness.
763
00:35:13,934 --> 00:35:16,467
Like Lisa Puluse
said at the beginning...
764
00:35:16,634 --> 00:35:18,868
Nobody's giving us answers.
765
00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:20,033
Your mind goes...
766
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:22,734
all over the place.
767
00:35:22,901 --> 00:35:25,133
Residents
across the state were spiraling.
768
00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:27,234
Bro, this is crazy man.
769
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,533
It even got to the point
770
00:35:28,534 --> 00:35:31,868
where they were wondering
if it was human at all.
771
00:35:32,033 --> 00:35:34,467
These drones are mysterious
and they're UAPs.
772
00:35:34,634 --> 00:35:36,767
They're not just, like,
regular drones.
773
00:35:36,934 --> 00:35:38,567
Are the drones being controlled
774
00:35:38,734 --> 00:35:40,968
by an extraterrestrial
intelligence?
775
00:35:42,167 --> 00:35:44,167
The idea that
the drones could have been UFOs
776
00:35:44,334 --> 00:35:45,834
became one of the big memes.
777
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,467
That is a yes.
778
00:35:49,934 --> 00:35:52,834
And once again,
officials were not denying it,
779
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,868
even though the drones
were using FAA running lights,
780
00:35:56,033 --> 00:35:57,167
and showed no characteristics
781
00:35:57,334 --> 00:35:59,467
of out-of-this-world
technology.
782
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,767
All of this got me thinking
about something at CIA
783
00:36:03,934 --> 00:36:05,734
that we call
"narrative control."
784
00:36:05,901 --> 00:36:08,934
In the intelligence world,
this means shaping how people
785
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:10,467
understand events.
786
00:36:10,634 --> 00:36:14,033
Not deceiving people
or hiding secrets per se,
787
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,467
but steering perception
in the direction that you want.
788
00:36:17,634 --> 00:36:19,767
There's no better example
of this than an incident
789
00:36:19,934 --> 00:36:21,167
that happened 50 years ago
790
00:36:21,334 --> 00:36:25,767
when a UFO story was used
to cover up a classified test.
791
00:36:27,367 --> 00:36:30,033
In 1967, unidentified objects
were reported
792
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,033
over nuclear missile
control centers
793
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,934
at Malmstrom Air Force Base.
794
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:35,167
Around the same time,
795
00:36:35,334 --> 00:36:37,367
multiple intercontinental
nuclear missiles
796
00:36:37,534 --> 00:36:39,767
suddenly went offline.
797
00:36:39,934 --> 00:36:42,467
Missileers on duty would later
go on to tell the story
798
00:36:42,634 --> 00:36:45,467
of the day UFOs turned off
our launch capability
799
00:36:45,634 --> 00:36:46,667
to anyone who would listen.
800
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,567
And that lived on
in UFO lore for decades.
801
00:36:51,734 --> 00:36:53,400
At Malmstrom Air Force Base,
802
00:36:53,567 --> 00:36:56,300
in which 10 of our nuclear ICBMs
were rendered inoperable.
803
00:36:56,467 --> 00:36:58,167
At the same time,
a glowing red orb
804
00:36:58,334 --> 00:36:59,334
was observed overhead.
805
00:36:59,501 --> 00:37:01,267
But last year,
declassified documents
806
00:37:01,434 --> 00:37:03,000
told a very different story.
807
00:37:03,167 --> 00:37:06,467
The missiles being disabled
had nothing to do with aliens.
808
00:37:06,634 --> 00:37:10,868
It was all
the result of a top-secret
US military test.
809
00:37:11,033 --> 00:37:13,234
An electromagnetic
pulse experiment
810
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,267
designed to see whether an EMP
811
00:37:15,434 --> 00:37:17,501
could knock
our own missiles offline.
812
00:37:19,767 --> 00:37:21,267
It worked!
813
00:37:21,434 --> 00:37:24,767
And because it worked so well,
the Pentagon stayed silent
814
00:37:24,934 --> 00:37:26,367
because it didn't want
the Soviets
815
00:37:26,534 --> 00:37:28,467
to know
what had really happened.
816
00:37:28,634 --> 00:37:30,968
And the government allowed
the story about aliens
817
00:37:31,133 --> 00:37:33,667
to go unchecked
for more than half a century.
818
00:37:33,834 --> 00:37:35,767
What is that?
819
00:37:35,934 --> 00:37:39,567
The government did not create
the Jersey UFO story,
820
00:37:39,734 --> 00:37:41,567
but they did allow it to live.
821
00:37:41,734 --> 00:37:44,567
The fact that
the federal agencies responsible
822
00:37:44,734 --> 00:37:47,167
for briefing the public
have not come forward
823
00:37:47,334 --> 00:37:49,300
in a clear way is unacceptable.
824
00:37:49,467 --> 00:37:51,167
Why it is that they're
not being forthcoming
825
00:37:51,334 --> 00:37:53,167
with this information
is confusing to me
826
00:37:53,334 --> 00:37:54,767
and very frustrating.
827
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:03,133
It seemed like we
may never get an actual answer
828
00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:04,601
to this mystery.
829
00:38:07,767 --> 00:38:09,868
But then I get a major scoop.
830
00:38:11,667 --> 00:38:14,367
The New York Post reports
that they may have the answer
831
00:38:14,534 --> 00:38:18,767
to what was actually flying
in the skies in 2024.
832
00:38:18,934 --> 00:38:21,501
A private company
with a government contract
833
00:38:21,667 --> 00:38:24,000
was testing out
their newest tech,
834
00:38:24,167 --> 00:38:26,667
a car-sized aircraft.
835
00:38:26,834 --> 00:38:28,067
Does that ring a bell?
836
00:38:28,234 --> 00:38:29,734
And residents
have compared some of them
837
00:38:29,901 --> 00:38:32,067
to the size of a small car.
838
00:38:32,234 --> 00:38:35,667
There are SUV-sized drones
flying over my home,
839
00:38:35,834 --> 00:38:37,367
so I'm going to make a cocktail.
840
00:38:37,534 --> 00:38:39,067
The reporter
who broke the story?
841
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:41,868
My man, Shane.
842
00:38:42,033 --> 00:38:45,167
We got a tip from a source
who was former military
843
00:38:45,334 --> 00:38:48,501
that some people were taking
credit for setting off
844
00:38:48,667 --> 00:38:50,667
some of the scares over there
in New Jersey,
845
00:38:50,834 --> 00:38:54,100
and they were debuting
this manned aerial craft
846
00:38:54,267 --> 00:38:55,767
that was
about the size of a car.
847
00:38:55,934 --> 00:38:57,467
This is from a company
called Pivotal,
848
00:38:57,634 --> 00:38:59,734
and it's a BlackFly.
849
00:38:59,901 --> 00:39:01,267
Now, on the record,
they said that they had
850
00:39:01,434 --> 00:39:02,467
nothing to do with it,
851
00:39:02,634 --> 00:39:05,167
but they did not
rule out the fact
852
00:39:05,334 --> 00:39:06,968
that they could
have sold to somebody
853
00:39:07,133 --> 00:39:08,400
on the East Coast.
854
00:39:08,567 --> 00:39:10,467
So, Shane, what's
your net takeaway from all this?
855
00:39:10,634 --> 00:39:15,367
I do think that I keep coming
back to, um, Picatinny Arsenal.
856
00:39:15,534 --> 00:39:18,167
It could be, like,
a field experiment, essentially.
857
00:39:18,334 --> 00:39:20,033
It doesn't solve
the whole mystery,
858
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,133
but it at least plugs
something in
859
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:24,501
so that we can figure it out.
860
00:39:24,667 --> 00:39:27,267
Even if this eases fears
that what people were seeing
861
00:39:27,434 --> 00:39:28,868
wasn't an invasion,
862
00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:32,567
but rather advanced
car-sized aerial technology,
863
00:39:32,734 --> 00:39:34,501
the question still
remains, why?
864
00:39:35,567 --> 00:39:38,667
What is the government
not telling us?
865
00:39:38,834 --> 00:39:40,367
But then I heard this
866
00:39:40,534 --> 00:39:42,601
from the White House
press secretary.
867
00:39:42,767 --> 00:39:45,868
After research and study,
the drones that were flying
868
00:39:46,033 --> 00:39:47,567
over New Jersey
in large numbers
869
00:39:47,734 --> 00:39:52,133
were authorized to be flown
by the FAA for research
870
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,467
and various other reasons.
871
00:39:54,634 --> 00:39:57,300
"Research
and various other reasons."
872
00:39:57,467 --> 00:40:02,467
Words that explain everything,
but say nothing.
873
00:40:02,634 --> 00:40:06,567
Unless it wasn't just a test
of the technology,
874
00:40:06,734 --> 00:40:08,734
but a test of us.
875
00:40:10,267 --> 00:40:11,667
What is that?
876
00:40:12,868 --> 00:40:16,601
Specifically, how we,
the public, would respond.
877
00:40:16,767 --> 00:40:19,234
Of all the places to carry out
a test like this,
878
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,601
of course you would pick
a dense,
879
00:40:21,767 --> 00:40:25,834
heavily populated,
urban location like New Jersey
880
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,734
to test what would happen,
how would people react,
881
00:40:28,901 --> 00:40:31,667
how would the rumors spread,
how would authorities respond?
882
00:40:31,834 --> 00:40:34,067
How would elected officials
speak out?
883
00:40:34,234 --> 00:40:36,734
Dozens upon dozens,
every single night,
884
00:40:36,901 --> 00:40:38,467
and nobody's doing anything.
885
00:40:38,634 --> 00:40:39,868
It's plausible this test
886
00:40:40,033 --> 00:40:42,300
was as much
from an offensive perspective
887
00:40:42,467 --> 00:40:43,868
as defensive.
888
00:40:44,033 --> 00:40:45,367
If you think
about the future of conflict,
889
00:40:45,534 --> 00:40:48,567
it's going to be about reaching
people where they live,
890
00:40:48,734 --> 00:40:50,767
where they feel safe.
891
00:40:50,934 --> 00:40:53,267
And when you look
at how the public reacted
892
00:40:53,434 --> 00:40:55,834
to these strange lights
in the sky,
893
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,667
their reaction went
from curiosity
894
00:40:58,834 --> 00:41:01,167
to terror in an instant.
895
00:41:02,767 --> 00:41:04,067
Holy crap.
896
00:41:04,234 --> 00:41:05,267
What is going on in New Jersey?
897
00:41:05,434 --> 00:41:06,367
Look at that.
898
00:41:06,534 --> 00:41:09,601
Modern wars aren't won
by weapons alone.
899
00:41:11,267 --> 00:41:13,267
They're won
by shaping perception.
900
00:41:13,434 --> 00:41:15,968
The anxiety that people
are just feeling.
901
00:41:16,133 --> 00:41:18,300
I don't know.
I don't know what to think.
902
00:41:18,467 --> 00:41:19,367
Because the side
903
00:41:19,534 --> 00:41:21,734
that can take control
of the narrative
904
00:41:21,901 --> 00:41:23,400
doesn't have to win the fight
905
00:41:25,467 --> 00:41:27,400
to win the war.
906
00:41:27,567 --> 00:41:29,667
Cheers, everyone,
and stay safe out there.
70184
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