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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:23,167 --> 00:00:24,334 Wow... 2 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,100 There's so many things in the sky right now. 3 00:00:28,267 --> 00:00:29,233 Let's face it. 4 00:00:29,234 --> 00:00:31,767 We live in a time when fear and distrust 5 00:00:31,934 --> 00:00:33,767 are at an all-time high. 6 00:00:33,934 --> 00:00:36,200 There are so many government conspiracies, 7 00:00:36,367 --> 00:00:39,767 it can be hard to tell what's real and what's not. 8 00:00:39,934 --> 00:00:41,467 The drones off of New Jersey. 9 00:00:41,634 --> 00:00:42,501 Are they Chinese? 10 00:00:42,667 --> 00:00:43,667 Are they Russian? 11 00:00:43,834 --> 00:00:45,567 Weather control. 12 00:00:45,734 --> 00:00:47,767 The death of Jeffrey Epstein. 13 00:00:47,934 --> 00:00:50,000 The list just goes on and on, 14 00:00:50,167 --> 00:00:53,167 and nobody knows how to make sense out of what's real... 15 00:00:54,868 --> 00:00:56,200 and what's fake. 16 00:00:57,634 --> 00:00:58,801 My name is Andrew Bustamante, 17 00:00:58,968 --> 00:01:01,801 and I am a former covert CIA intelligence officer, 18 00:01:01,968 --> 00:01:03,467 and I'm here to help you separate 19 00:01:03,634 --> 00:01:05,167 fact from fiction. 20 00:01:07,067 --> 00:01:08,167 Since leaving CIA, 21 00:01:08,334 --> 00:01:10,367 I've made it my mission to shed light 22 00:01:10,534 --> 00:01:12,968 on the lies, cover-ups, conspiracies, 23 00:01:13,133 --> 00:01:15,701 and tactics used to conceal them. 24 00:01:16,767 --> 00:01:19,767 Now I'm going to pressure-test the most sensational, 25 00:01:19,934 --> 00:01:22,567 ripped-from-the-headlines conspiracy theories out there, 26 00:01:23,767 --> 00:01:25,467 and track down key experts, 27 00:01:25,634 --> 00:01:28,667 eyewitnesses, and whistleblowers. 28 00:01:28,834 --> 00:01:31,000 I'll analyze never-before-seen footage, 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,100 conduct eye-opening experiments. 30 00:01:34,267 --> 00:01:35,366 These right here. 31 00:01:35,367 --> 00:01:37,000 See the drone right there overhead, you see it? 32 00:01:37,167 --> 00:01:38,868 And demonstrations. 33 00:01:39,033 --> 00:01:41,100 Sleeping all the way down deeper and deeper. 34 00:01:41,267 --> 00:01:43,667 It's just so fast. It's just incredible. 35 00:01:43,834 --> 00:01:46,868 Nobody thinks of hypnotism as a weapon. 36 00:01:47,033 --> 00:01:48,767 My mission is simple... 37 00:01:48,934 --> 00:01:51,767 Is there a tunnel that connects us to Cheyenne Mountain? 38 00:01:51,934 --> 00:01:53,067 ...to find the truth. 39 00:01:54,601 --> 00:01:57,300 Epstein was reported to have actually hung himself 40 00:01:57,467 --> 00:01:58,968 from this side of the bed, 41 00:01:59,133 --> 00:02:00,400 which is right here. 42 00:02:00,567 --> 00:02:02,467 And arm you with the tools you need 43 00:02:02,634 --> 00:02:05,567 to determine for yourself what is real 44 00:02:05,734 --> 00:02:09,100 and what are you being manipulated to believe is real. 45 00:02:19,601 --> 00:02:21,200 What in the world is going on 46 00:02:21,367 --> 00:02:22,767 in the skies over New Jersey? 47 00:02:22,934 --> 00:02:24,400 New Jersey's own Bruce Springsteen 48 00:02:24,567 --> 00:02:27,100 once described North Jersey's sky with the line, 49 00:02:27,267 --> 00:02:28,601 "The sun's just a red ball 50 00:02:28,767 --> 00:02:31,100 rising over them refinery towers," 51 00:02:31,267 --> 00:02:33,501 but now we need to add had a few drones. 52 00:02:34,868 --> 00:02:37,100 In November 2024, 53 00:02:37,267 --> 00:02:39,200 the folks of New Jersey started to look up 54 00:02:39,367 --> 00:02:41,100 in the sky and see this. 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,868 What is that? 56 00:02:50,033 --> 00:02:52,767 For nearly a month, mysterious crafts were spotted 57 00:02:52,934 --> 00:02:54,167 night after night. 58 00:02:54,334 --> 00:02:56,000 They're just pacing back and forth, 59 00:02:56,167 --> 00:02:57,567 going very slow. 60 00:02:57,734 --> 00:02:59,367 We've been looking for the past hour. 61 00:02:59,534 --> 00:03:01,968 We've seen about 40 or 50 of these drones. 62 00:03:02,133 --> 00:03:05,567 In fact, there's one over my shoulder right there. 63 00:03:05,734 --> 00:03:07,100 With distinct running lights, 64 00:03:07,267 --> 00:03:08,701 these craft were too small 65 00:03:08,868 --> 00:03:11,067 to be fixed-wing aircraft or helicopters. 66 00:03:11,234 --> 00:03:13,501 Whatever that is, is massive. 67 00:03:13,667 --> 00:03:15,167 But they were also too large 68 00:03:15,334 --> 00:03:17,100 to be standard commercial drones. 69 00:03:17,267 --> 00:03:20,501 There are SUV-sized drones flying over my home, 70 00:03:20,667 --> 00:03:22,567 and the government has no idea what they are, 71 00:03:22,734 --> 00:03:24,167 so I'm going to make a cocktail. 72 00:03:24,334 --> 00:03:26,767 Some were reported to be flying in formation. 73 00:03:26,934 --> 00:03:28,501 They're all going the same direction. 74 00:03:28,667 --> 00:03:32,400 Others were seen hovering in place for hours. 75 00:03:32,567 --> 00:03:34,567 Oh, my goodness. 76 00:03:34,734 --> 00:03:36,200 And with residents on edge, 77 00:03:36,367 --> 00:03:38,701 they were getting little in terms of answers. 78 00:03:38,868 --> 00:03:40,767 They have a responsibility, 79 00:03:40,934 --> 00:03:42,367 the FBI and the FAA, 80 00:03:42,534 --> 00:03:44,868 to brief the public more thoroughly. 81 00:03:45,033 --> 00:03:46,667 And in that government silence, 82 00:03:46,834 --> 00:03:48,667 conspiracy theories started to explode 83 00:03:48,834 --> 00:03:52,200 all over the Internet and in mainstream media. 84 00:03:52,367 --> 00:03:55,100 Really want to know what's going on in New Jersey? 85 00:03:55,267 --> 00:03:58,100 Radioactive material in New Jersey has gone missing. 86 00:03:58,267 --> 00:04:02,267 Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago 87 00:04:02,434 --> 00:04:04,000 that contains these drones. 88 00:04:04,167 --> 00:04:07,501 The third option is-- it's non-human. 89 00:04:07,667 --> 00:04:08,900 I mean, you said it yourself. 90 00:04:08,901 --> 00:04:12,467 The New Jersey drones quickly went from mystery to meme. 91 00:04:12,634 --> 00:04:14,901 How are you, or should I say, what are you? 92 00:04:15,067 --> 00:04:17,067 OK, no, we're not gonna do that. 93 00:04:17,234 --> 00:04:19,567 See, I know what I am, 94 00:04:19,734 --> 00:04:22,767 and I don't have to explain myself to anyone. 95 00:04:22,934 --> 00:04:25,267 But serious questions still persist. 96 00:04:25,434 --> 00:04:29,000 Why hasn't the government provided a complete explanation, 97 00:04:29,167 --> 00:04:30,968 even a full year later? 98 00:04:32,467 --> 00:04:35,467 On this episode, I'm going to apply my CIA background... 99 00:04:35,634 --> 00:04:36,467 Becca, you got him? 100 00:04:36,634 --> 00:04:38,100 Let's get creative here. 101 00:04:38,267 --> 00:04:40,000 ...to conduct the most comprehensive investigation 102 00:04:40,167 --> 00:04:42,601 of the New Jersey drone mystery ever done. 103 00:04:42,767 --> 00:04:45,000 This is taking what we do to a whole new level. 104 00:04:45,167 --> 00:04:46,767 Ho, ho, ho, ho. 105 00:04:46,934 --> 00:04:48,166 With key interviews. 106 00:04:48,167 --> 00:04:49,968 Maybe there's a unit that's testing something out 107 00:04:50,133 --> 00:04:51,400 that not everybody's aware of. 108 00:04:51,567 --> 00:04:53,400 And real-world demonstrations. 109 00:04:53,567 --> 00:04:55,300 Kivo 1 taking off. 110 00:04:55,467 --> 00:04:57,601 So that we can separate fact from fiction 111 00:04:57,767 --> 00:04:59,467 and understand what was really happening 112 00:04:59,634 --> 00:05:03,601 in the skies over New Jersey in the fall of 2024. 113 00:05:14,467 --> 00:05:16,868 Drones used to be toys. 114 00:05:17,033 --> 00:05:20,067 Holiday gifts we used to film cool aerial shots of our homes 115 00:05:20,234 --> 00:05:21,968 or our kids' soccer games. 116 00:05:22,133 --> 00:05:24,367 Then they got useful. 117 00:05:24,534 --> 00:05:26,100 They deliver packages. 118 00:05:26,267 --> 00:05:28,000 They search for missing people. 119 00:05:28,167 --> 00:05:30,100 They entertain us with light shows. 120 00:05:30,267 --> 00:05:32,701 Convenient, harmless, 121 00:05:32,868 --> 00:05:33,767 until they weren't. 122 00:05:35,267 --> 00:05:37,400 We all watched as small, cheap drones became 123 00:05:37,567 --> 00:05:41,000 terrifying weapons of war in places like Ukraine. 124 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,300 So when unexplained drones 125 00:05:44,467 --> 00:05:45,901 began to pop up on the Eastern Seaboard, 126 00:05:46,067 --> 00:05:47,567 people were concerned. 127 00:05:49,667 --> 00:05:52,067 To dig deep into the mystery of the New Jersey drones, 128 00:05:52,234 --> 00:05:54,000 I am headed to where it all started. 129 00:05:55,267 --> 00:05:56,567 Northern New Jersey, 130 00:05:56,734 --> 00:05:58,601 just across the Hudson River from Manhattan. 131 00:06:04,167 --> 00:06:05,367 Here in Bergen County, 132 00:06:05,534 --> 00:06:07,100 one of the witnesses who recorded 133 00:06:07,267 --> 00:06:10,367 the most footage of these drones in the sky is a woman 134 00:06:10,534 --> 00:06:12,000 named Lisa Puluse. 135 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,801 Let's count the drones. 136 00:06:15,968 --> 00:06:18,801 Right there, one, two, 137 00:06:18,968 --> 00:06:20,667 three, four, 138 00:06:21,868 --> 00:06:25,300 five, six, seven... 139 00:06:25,467 --> 00:06:28,667 One of them literally went right over my house 140 00:06:28,834 --> 00:06:33,767 where you could just reach out and touch it. 141 00:06:35,767 --> 00:06:37,267 This one's right above us. 142 00:06:39,467 --> 00:06:42,167 I didn't believe that it could be something 143 00:06:42,334 --> 00:06:44,367 that was gonna harm us, 144 00:06:44,534 --> 00:06:46,467 but you would hear other people talk. 145 00:06:46,634 --> 00:06:49,000 Then you're like, well, maybe-- what if? 146 00:06:49,167 --> 00:06:50,767 What if? 147 00:06:50,934 --> 00:06:52,367 So you're making up your own stories, 148 00:06:52,534 --> 00:06:54,100 and so is everybody else. 149 00:06:56,567 --> 00:06:58,400 When I look at a map of northern New Jersey, 150 00:06:58,567 --> 00:07:01,467 the first thing I notice is that Lisa and her neighbors 151 00:07:01,634 --> 00:07:05,100 live only about five miles outside of Picatinny Arsenal. 152 00:07:06,567 --> 00:07:08,601 This is not a typical military base. 153 00:07:08,767 --> 00:07:10,567 It's the US Army's main laboratory 154 00:07:10,734 --> 00:07:13,567 for testing explosives, weapons, 155 00:07:13,734 --> 00:07:17,100 and advanced hardware, like robots and drones. 156 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,100 Could there be a connection between the base 157 00:07:21,267 --> 00:07:23,667 and the sightings in Lisa's town? 158 00:07:23,834 --> 00:07:25,567 I'm heading over to meet with the mayor of Mine Hill 159 00:07:25,734 --> 00:07:26,667 to find out. 160 00:07:27,701 --> 00:07:29,400 A lot of people up in that area 161 00:07:29,567 --> 00:07:31,868 started seeing them up and over 162 00:07:32,033 --> 00:07:33,400 around Picatinny. 163 00:07:33,567 --> 00:07:35,400 There were airspace violations. 164 00:07:35,567 --> 00:07:37,868 They then put restrictions in 165 00:07:38,033 --> 00:07:40,167 and some of the drones still violated that. 166 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,667 The one thing that got me one night, 167 00:07:42,834 --> 00:07:44,033 I got a call from a resident, 168 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,667 "Hey, mayor, the drones are over the elementary school 169 00:07:46,834 --> 00:07:48,367 and heading toward town hall." 170 00:07:48,534 --> 00:07:50,701 The mayor even grabbed his phone and shot 171 00:07:50,868 --> 00:07:52,300 his own video of the fleet of drones 172 00:07:52,467 --> 00:07:54,901 that had residents on edge. 173 00:07:55,067 --> 00:07:56,100 They were in formation, 174 00:07:56,267 --> 00:07:58,267 they were kind of working together-- a team. 175 00:08:02,501 --> 00:08:05,901 People started seeing them as weapons and asking questions. 176 00:08:06,067 --> 00:08:08,200 I am literally freaking out right now. 177 00:08:11,767 --> 00:08:13,400 Myself and a whole group of people 178 00:08:13,567 --> 00:08:14,901 were trying to get real answers. 179 00:08:15,067 --> 00:08:17,300 Whoever's doing this is tiptoeing 180 00:08:17,467 --> 00:08:20,467 right through the federal and state laws. 181 00:08:20,634 --> 00:08:22,501 Are these things up there to harm us? 182 00:08:22,667 --> 00:08:24,667 Are they Chinese? Are they Russian? 183 00:08:24,834 --> 00:08:27,467 But the feds wouldn't respond. The FAA wouldn't respond. 184 00:08:27,634 --> 00:08:29,300 The military wouldn't respond. 185 00:08:29,467 --> 00:08:32,567 And when you leave people hanging like that, 186 00:08:32,734 --> 00:08:34,300 they're going to fill in the blanks. 187 00:08:44,567 --> 00:08:47,968 It was November 25th when the FAA closed the airspace 188 00:08:48,133 --> 00:08:50,367 above Picatinny Arsenal and then extended 189 00:08:50,534 --> 00:08:52,267 that restricted zone over a golf club 190 00:08:52,434 --> 00:08:55,367 owned by then President-Elect Donald Trump. 191 00:08:55,534 --> 00:08:57,367 They didn't provide a reason why, 192 00:08:57,534 --> 00:08:59,767 but you don't restrict airspace without a reason. 193 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,100 The New York Post has been on this story from day one, 194 00:09:04,267 --> 00:09:05,767 so I reached out to one of the first journalists 195 00:09:05,934 --> 00:09:07,501 to report on the sightings 196 00:09:07,667 --> 00:09:09,667 to find out if they believe there could be any connection 197 00:09:09,834 --> 00:09:12,767 between the drones and the military base. 198 00:09:12,934 --> 00:09:16,267 What was it like in the middle of it all on the ground 199 00:09:16,434 --> 00:09:18,467 like you were? - It was total pandemonium. 200 00:09:18,634 --> 00:09:21,067 No one really knew exactly what the hell was going on. 201 00:09:21,234 --> 00:09:23,267 There was several agencies that all said, 202 00:09:23,434 --> 00:09:25,100 "Everything is fine, don't worry about it, 203 00:09:25,267 --> 00:09:26,901 no problems." 204 00:09:27,067 --> 00:09:29,901 It was like the vibes of the mayor from "Jaws," 205 00:09:30,067 --> 00:09:31,868 where he tells you everything at the beach is fine, 206 00:09:32,033 --> 00:09:34,167 there's no sharks, just so that everybody 207 00:09:34,334 --> 00:09:37,267 can continue swimming in peace, right? 208 00:09:37,434 --> 00:09:39,267 It was incredibly frustrating. 209 00:09:39,434 --> 00:09:43,000 The number-one question is, "Why didn't Picatinny Arsenal 210 00:09:43,167 --> 00:09:44,701 shoot down the drones that were in their airspace 211 00:09:44,868 --> 00:09:46,167 operating illegally?" 212 00:09:46,968 --> 00:09:50,367 It seems to me that it wasn't exactly just commercial drones 213 00:09:50,534 --> 00:09:53,667 and miss-sightings that was going on in New Jersey in 2024. 214 00:09:53,834 --> 00:09:54,834 There was something else going on. 215 00:09:57,300 --> 00:09:58,567 If the government 216 00:09:58,734 --> 00:10:00,000 wasn't shooting down the aircraft 217 00:10:00,167 --> 00:10:01,701 that were violating the restricted zone, 218 00:10:01,868 --> 00:10:03,100 you have to wonder, 219 00:10:03,267 --> 00:10:05,801 did the government already know what was going on? 220 00:10:05,968 --> 00:10:09,200 We have footage of a formation flight that's traveling 221 00:10:09,367 --> 00:10:11,467 from one side of Picatinny Arsenal 222 00:10:11,634 --> 00:10:13,467 to the other side of Picatinny Arsenal. 223 00:10:13,634 --> 00:10:15,868 With so many sightings, in such a small area, 224 00:10:16,033 --> 00:10:17,100 it actually elevated to the level 225 00:10:17,267 --> 00:10:18,868 where the President himself 226 00:10:19,033 --> 00:10:20,000 had to make comments. 227 00:10:25,467 --> 00:10:27,100 Is there a chance that this could be related 228 00:10:27,267 --> 00:10:31,067 to some kind of secret US government operation at Picatinny? 229 00:10:31,234 --> 00:10:32,868 It's an intriguing lead, 230 00:10:33,033 --> 00:10:35,167 but we're getting ahead of ourselves. 231 00:10:43,634 --> 00:10:44,968 Before we jump to the conclusion 232 00:10:45,133 --> 00:10:47,501 that these drones were part of some kind of conspiracy 233 00:10:47,667 --> 00:10:48,766 or cover up, 234 00:10:48,767 --> 00:10:50,801 I want to start with what my training taught me. 235 00:10:51,801 --> 00:10:55,467 At CIA, we're taught to follow very strict rules of analysis, 236 00:10:55,634 --> 00:10:57,000 something called Razors. 237 00:10:57,167 --> 00:10:58,701 And the first Razor that we learn 238 00:10:58,868 --> 00:11:00,300 is something called Occam's Razor, 239 00:11:00,467 --> 00:11:02,868 which states that the simplest explanation 240 00:11:03,033 --> 00:11:05,701 is oftentimes the correct explanation. 241 00:11:05,868 --> 00:11:08,567 So the question is, "Was there something strange happening 242 00:11:08,734 --> 00:11:09,867 "in the skies over New Jersey, 243 00:11:09,868 --> 00:11:12,667 or were those lights nothing out of the ordinary?" 244 00:11:14,300 --> 00:11:16,567 To answer that question, I've arranged a meeting 245 00:11:16,734 --> 00:11:20,000 with a pilot from Skydio, a company whose drones are used 246 00:11:20,167 --> 00:11:21,868 by police departments and first responders 247 00:11:22,033 --> 00:11:23,367 all over the country. 248 00:11:23,534 --> 00:11:25,367 - Hello. - Hey, Andy, how's it going? 249 00:11:25,534 --> 00:11:27,868 Ken Van Hese is a former Navy SEAL 250 00:11:28,033 --> 00:11:29,467 who flew drones on classified missions 251 00:11:29,634 --> 00:11:30,901 all over the world. 252 00:11:31,067 --> 00:11:33,667 If anyone can help me try and understand what was going on 253 00:11:33,834 --> 00:11:35,868 over in New Jersey, he can. 254 00:11:36,033 --> 00:11:38,167 I want to start by showing you a video that I received 255 00:11:38,334 --> 00:11:39,467 from a woman named Lisa. 256 00:11:39,634 --> 00:11:42,467 Lisa lives on a hill above Picatinny Arsenal. 257 00:11:43,868 --> 00:11:45,467 Let's count how many drones-- 258 00:11:45,634 --> 00:11:48,000 we got, one, two... 259 00:11:48,167 --> 00:11:50,567 three, four... 260 00:11:50,734 --> 00:11:52,868 There's a lot more than I thought it was going to be. 261 00:11:53,033 --> 00:11:54,567 ...six... there's seven... 262 00:11:54,734 --> 00:11:55,999 And as she's counting these, 263 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,567 you can see that she's moving her camera in one direction 264 00:11:58,734 --> 00:11:59,868 - Yeah. - Which suggests that all 265 00:12:00,100 --> 00:12:02,300 the drones are going in a predominant direction. 266 00:12:02,467 --> 00:12:03,701 Would it be possible for us 267 00:12:03,868 --> 00:12:05,767 to recreate what we just saw in this video? 268 00:12:05,934 --> 00:12:07,767 We can take a try and see if we can do it. 269 00:12:07,934 --> 00:12:09,868 - Let's do it. - Awesome. 270 00:12:10,033 --> 00:12:11,701 Matt and I will be 271 00:12:11,868 --> 00:12:14,567 the multi-drone remote flight deck operator. 272 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:17,100 Wes, you'll be covering down on thermal. 273 00:12:17,267 --> 00:12:19,067 - Let's do it. - All right. 274 00:12:19,234 --> 00:12:21,300 - All right. - Kivo 1 taking off. 275 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,067 Some witnesses said the crafts they saw 276 00:12:27,234 --> 00:12:28,501 were much larger than these. 277 00:12:28,667 --> 00:12:31,067 But what I wanted to recreate wasn't the size, 278 00:12:31,234 --> 00:12:32,467 it was the visual effect. 279 00:12:32,634 --> 00:12:34,968 When multiple drones move together at night, 280 00:12:35,133 --> 00:12:37,767 it can trigger something called perception bias, 281 00:12:37,934 --> 00:12:39,701 where a few small lights in the sky 282 00:12:39,868 --> 00:12:41,567 suddenly look much bigger 283 00:12:41,734 --> 00:12:44,300 and much more ominous than they really are. 284 00:12:44,467 --> 00:12:47,567 I never think of flying a drone from a laptop. 285 00:12:47,734 --> 00:12:49,467 I always think of it from a control. 286 00:12:49,634 --> 00:12:51,367 - The future is here. - Holy smokes. 287 00:12:52,567 --> 00:12:54,667 So now what we're gonna take them is right across 288 00:12:54,834 --> 00:12:57,200 the horizon and see if we can recreate what she saw. 289 00:12:57,367 --> 00:12:59,167 OK. 290 00:12:59,334 --> 00:13:03,100 All right, three, two, one, go. 291 00:13:06,634 --> 00:13:07,701 Look at that. 292 00:13:07,868 --> 00:13:11,067 That is exactly what she sent us in the video. 293 00:13:11,234 --> 00:13:14,667 Two, three, four. 294 00:13:14,834 --> 00:13:16,701 She watched and counted them in the sky. 295 00:13:16,868 --> 00:13:19,567 You can count them right now yourself as they move 296 00:13:19,734 --> 00:13:21,567 across the horizon from one point to another 297 00:13:21,734 --> 00:13:24,667 in one predominant direction. 298 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:34,100 So then, Ken, what's your theory about what was happening 299 00:13:34,267 --> 00:13:35,534 in the skies over New Jersey? 300 00:13:35,701 --> 00:13:38,100 And do you think any of it could have been Skydio technology? 301 00:13:38,267 --> 00:13:39,601 I think it could have been Skydio. 302 00:13:39,767 --> 00:13:41,267 We do have law enforcement customers 303 00:13:41,434 --> 00:13:42,567 in the New Jersey area, 304 00:13:42,734 --> 00:13:44,901 so I think they could have been flying a drone 305 00:13:45,067 --> 00:13:47,467 as first-responder, uh, missions. 306 00:13:47,634 --> 00:13:49,501 I don't think the average American recognizes 307 00:13:49,667 --> 00:13:51,200 that police forces fly drones at all. 308 00:13:51,367 --> 00:13:53,367 They don't. I think that's good for cops. 309 00:13:53,534 --> 00:13:55,601 I think when people see drones in the sky, 310 00:13:55,767 --> 00:13:57,601 it keeps the person honest. 311 00:13:57,767 --> 00:14:01,067 The tech is here, and it's not going anywhere. 312 00:14:01,234 --> 00:14:04,968 A police drone theory might not be too far-fetched. 313 00:14:05,133 --> 00:14:06,767 The Jersey sightings coincided 314 00:14:06,934 --> 00:14:09,667 with one of the most shocking events of 2024-- 315 00:14:09,834 --> 00:14:12,968 when UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was gunned down 316 00:14:13,133 --> 00:14:16,667 in cold blood on the streets of New York. 317 00:14:16,834 --> 00:14:20,000 CEO Brian Thompson was killed Wednesday morning. 318 00:14:20,167 --> 00:14:22,167 This was a premeditated, 319 00:14:22,334 --> 00:14:25,767 preplanned, brazen, targeted attack. 320 00:14:25,934 --> 00:14:30,100 And a massive hunt for Luigi Mangione was underway. 321 00:14:30,267 --> 00:14:32,267 After a frantic, three-day manhunt, 322 00:14:32,434 --> 00:14:35,501 tonight the NYPD now believes the suspect who gunned down 323 00:14:35,667 --> 00:14:37,801 UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson 324 00:14:37,968 --> 00:14:39,767 has escaped New York City. 325 00:14:39,934 --> 00:14:42,267 Coming up-- could it be that simple? 326 00:14:42,434 --> 00:14:45,000 Could the Jersey drone mystery be explained by an increase 327 00:14:45,167 --> 00:14:47,567 in police drones patrolling our skies 328 00:14:47,734 --> 00:14:50,167 that most people are just not aware of? 329 00:14:58,100 --> 00:14:59,367 2 330 00:15:01,167 --> 00:15:03,267 Two weeks after the initial drone sightings, 331 00:15:03,434 --> 00:15:07,868 on December 4th, 2024, everyone's attention shifted. 332 00:15:08,033 --> 00:15:11,000 Federal authorities widened the urgent manhunt for a killer. 333 00:15:11,167 --> 00:15:13,000 The NYPD deploying drones. 334 00:15:13,167 --> 00:15:14,467 Drones played a critical role 335 00:15:14,634 --> 00:15:16,467 in the manhunt for Luigi Mangione, 336 00:15:16,634 --> 00:15:17,801 the suspect of the killing 337 00:15:17,968 --> 00:15:21,200 of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. 338 00:15:21,367 --> 00:15:24,767 Law enforcement drones ran grid searches over Central Park. 339 00:15:24,934 --> 00:15:27,000 They helped locate early physical evidence, 340 00:15:27,167 --> 00:15:29,767 and then they fanned out across the tri-state area 341 00:15:29,934 --> 00:15:31,167 as he fled. 342 00:15:31,334 --> 00:15:32,367 But here's the thing, 343 00:15:32,534 --> 00:15:34,567 that manhunt happened more than two weeks 344 00:15:34,734 --> 00:15:37,901 after the initial sighting, so that explanation falls apart. 345 00:15:39,367 --> 00:15:42,000 Nevertheless, drone pilot Ken Van Hese 346 00:15:42,167 --> 00:15:44,200 told me he believes the answer is police 347 00:15:44,367 --> 00:15:45,801 and first-responder drone activity 348 00:15:45,968 --> 00:15:48,467 the public is just noticing for the first time. 349 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,100 Ken's theory sparks my curiosity. 350 00:15:53,467 --> 00:15:55,868 So I decided to have a little fun. 351 00:15:56,033 --> 00:15:57,267 I want to see firsthand 352 00:15:57,434 --> 00:15:59,467 what a drone tracking someone looks like 353 00:15:59,634 --> 00:16:03,167 with a test of how my CIA evasion and escape techniques 354 00:16:03,334 --> 00:16:06,400 stack up against the latest police drone technology. 355 00:16:06,567 --> 00:16:08,167 So I asked Ken to set up a manhunt 356 00:16:08,334 --> 00:16:10,067 with the local police department, 357 00:16:10,234 --> 00:16:12,067 the target-- me. 358 00:16:12,234 --> 00:16:15,200 We're going to see how long we can track and follow you. 359 00:16:15,367 --> 00:16:18,367 My job is just to evade for as long as possible 360 00:16:18,534 --> 00:16:20,567 and try to escape detection. - Exactly. 361 00:16:20,734 --> 00:16:23,868 I had no idea that over 1,400 police departments 362 00:16:24,033 --> 00:16:26,701 fly drones every day for all sorts of missions. 363 00:16:37,601 --> 00:16:39,968 Check, maybe, Colorado and Nevada. 364 00:16:40,901 --> 00:16:44,767 I'm going to start using my peripheral vision to try 365 00:16:44,934 --> 00:16:50,567 to identify anything in the sky that's looking for me. 366 00:16:55,167 --> 00:16:57,367 This is nerve-wracking as hell. 367 00:16:57,534 --> 00:16:59,000 In my seven years at CIA, 368 00:16:59,167 --> 00:17:02,667 I spent much of it operating overseas undercover. 369 00:17:02,834 --> 00:17:05,367 I got used to people trying to follow me. 370 00:17:05,534 --> 00:17:06,767 Learning how to shake surveillance 371 00:17:06,934 --> 00:17:09,200 is basic tradecraft, but losing a drone 372 00:17:09,367 --> 00:17:11,467 in the in the sky, that's a different game. 373 00:17:13,868 --> 00:17:18,200 There's a very real instinct to run when you know somebody 374 00:17:18,367 --> 00:17:19,433 is on your tail. 375 00:17:19,434 --> 00:17:21,400 But a professional has to fight that instinct. 376 00:17:22,868 --> 00:17:24,000 OK... 377 00:17:33,501 --> 00:17:35,868 I saw the drone in the sky. All right, 378 00:17:36,033 --> 00:17:37,667 let's get creative here. 379 00:17:41,701 --> 00:17:44,367 I have a real chance of blending in with a crowd. 380 00:17:44,534 --> 00:17:47,667 So all of these folks are hanging out. 381 00:17:47,834 --> 00:17:49,067 Can I walk in here with you guys? 382 00:17:50,267 --> 00:17:51,199 Alright. 383 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,601 Well, it's not easy to get accomplices 384 00:17:52,767 --> 00:17:54,367 for this kind of stuff. 385 00:17:54,534 --> 00:17:56,868 But that's not the only trick up my sleeve. 386 00:17:57,033 --> 00:17:59,167 I need a place where the drone can't see me 387 00:17:59,334 --> 00:18:00,767 and what I'm doing. 388 00:18:00,934 --> 00:18:03,868 I'm actually going to go into an underground bar. 389 00:18:04,033 --> 00:18:05,801 It's open. 390 00:18:05,968 --> 00:18:07,167 We are now underground. 391 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,801 Um, it's a very strange question. 392 00:18:21,968 --> 00:18:24,901 Is there an exit other than this from this building? 393 00:18:27,767 --> 00:18:29,200 Alright. 394 00:18:29,367 --> 00:18:33,501 We got our back exit out of the bar. 395 00:18:33,667 --> 00:18:35,567 So now the question is 396 00:18:35,734 --> 00:18:37,868 whether or not the drone's gonna find us. 397 00:18:40,934 --> 00:18:43,467 OK, we are underneath a canopy. 398 00:18:43,634 --> 00:18:45,567 I hear a drone passing overhead. 399 00:18:45,734 --> 00:18:47,100 There it goes. 400 00:18:47,267 --> 00:18:48,667 It's going towards the opposite direction. 401 00:18:48,834 --> 00:18:50,767 So we're going to continue our walk. 402 00:18:50,934 --> 00:18:52,801 Hopefully that means there's a battery problem. 403 00:19:01,601 --> 00:19:04,100 We are literally feet away from a place 404 00:19:04,267 --> 00:19:06,467 that might be my safe haven. 405 00:19:11,767 --> 00:19:13,100 How you doing? How you doing? 406 00:19:21,534 --> 00:19:23,234 Ah! Cheers! 407 00:19:25,701 --> 00:19:29,100 I was able to beat the drone by exploiting a weakness. 408 00:19:29,267 --> 00:19:32,601 Even these expensive police drones are small in scale 409 00:19:32,767 --> 00:19:34,267 and have battery limits. 410 00:19:34,434 --> 00:19:36,501 But many of the drones reported over New Jersey 411 00:19:36,667 --> 00:19:38,868 were seen flying for hours. 412 00:19:39,033 --> 00:19:41,567 Police drones may have been part of the puzzle, 413 00:19:41,734 --> 00:19:44,467 but I'm not convinced that they're the sole explanation, 414 00:19:44,634 --> 00:19:45,901 which leads me to a number 415 00:19:46,067 --> 00:19:47,467 of other wild conspiracy theories 416 00:19:47,634 --> 00:19:48,734 that exploded on social media. 417 00:19:50,901 --> 00:19:53,501 One of the first conspiracy theories to go viral 418 00:19:53,667 --> 00:19:56,400 came from reality TV star Bethenny Frankel. 419 00:19:56,567 --> 00:19:58,667 There are many different theories. 420 00:19:58,834 --> 00:20:01,667 One, that the government, our government, 421 00:20:01,834 --> 00:20:04,100 is searching for something that has been lost. 422 00:20:04,267 --> 00:20:05,868 There have been many nuclear Ws 423 00:20:06,033 --> 00:20:08,000 that were lost during different wars. 424 00:20:08,167 --> 00:20:11,667 Something could be disassembled and then reassembled here. 425 00:20:11,834 --> 00:20:14,367 Soon, people across the tri-state area started 426 00:20:14,534 --> 00:20:17,300 freaking out that the drones were part of a search 427 00:20:17,467 --> 00:20:19,567 for some kind of loose nuke. 428 00:20:20,868 --> 00:20:24,400 There were over 80 nuclear warheads 429 00:20:24,567 --> 00:20:26,767 that were in Ukraine that came up missing. 430 00:20:26,934 --> 00:20:28,167 It's out there. 431 00:20:28,334 --> 00:20:29,601 Nobody knows where it's at now. 432 00:20:29,767 --> 00:20:31,901 And then rumors, of course, 433 00:20:32,067 --> 00:20:33,100 come out on the Internet 434 00:20:33,267 --> 00:20:35,667 that there may be some dire situation. 435 00:20:35,834 --> 00:20:39,601 They could very possibly be sniffing out 436 00:20:39,767 --> 00:20:41,467 something very dangerous. 437 00:20:41,634 --> 00:20:44,167 How crazy was Bethenny's post? 438 00:20:44,334 --> 00:20:45,701 Maybe not so much. 439 00:20:45,868 --> 00:20:47,467 Before my time at CIA, 440 00:20:47,634 --> 00:20:51,100 I was a US Air Force nuclear missile officer. 441 00:20:51,267 --> 00:20:53,667 So let's walk through what would happen if there was 442 00:20:53,834 --> 00:20:55,667 a dirty bomb in New Jersey. 443 00:20:55,834 --> 00:20:57,701 You'd start quietly. 444 00:20:57,868 --> 00:21:00,601 Radiation detection teams, aircraft with sniffers. 445 00:21:00,767 --> 00:21:02,601 These are systems that already exist. 446 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:07,567 The public would in fact see more aircraft in the skies. 447 00:21:07,734 --> 00:21:09,300 Helicopters, fixed-wing aircraft, 448 00:21:09,467 --> 00:21:13,100 even drones flying tight-grid search patterns. 449 00:21:13,267 --> 00:21:16,167 What you wouldn't hear is, "Good morning, there may be 450 00:21:16,334 --> 00:21:18,367 a missing nuclear device in your neighborhood." 451 00:21:18,534 --> 00:21:21,968 So what people were seeing could fit this pattern. 452 00:21:22,133 --> 00:21:24,801 And a loose nuke isn't science fiction. 453 00:21:26,367 --> 00:21:30,167 In 1961, a US Air Force B-52 bomber 454 00:21:30,334 --> 00:21:32,567 broke apart over North Carolina 455 00:21:32,734 --> 00:21:36,100 and dropped two fully armed hydrogen bombs. 456 00:21:36,267 --> 00:21:38,100 We call this a Broken Arrow. 457 00:21:38,267 --> 00:21:40,367 One of them nearly went off. 458 00:21:40,534 --> 00:21:43,367 The public didn't learn how close that was 459 00:21:43,534 --> 00:21:46,367 until decades later. 460 00:21:46,534 --> 00:21:48,501 But in this case, you're probably not surprised 461 00:21:48,667 --> 00:21:51,601 to learn there was no missing radiological weapon. 462 00:21:51,767 --> 00:21:54,868 Energy agencies knocking down an alarming theory 463 00:21:55,033 --> 00:21:56,767 saying it's just not true. 464 00:21:56,934 --> 00:21:59,767 Authorities even addressed the rumor in time. 465 00:21:59,934 --> 00:22:02,167 That statement goes on to say that nuclear officials 466 00:22:02,334 --> 00:22:05,200 are not currently conducting any aerial operations 467 00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:06,968 in that region. 468 00:22:07,133 --> 00:22:08,567 What went missing was a small amount 469 00:22:08,734 --> 00:22:11,567 of radioactive material that was used for testing. 470 00:22:11,734 --> 00:22:13,968 It had nothing to do with the drones, 471 00:22:14,133 --> 00:22:15,501 but that didn't matter. 472 00:22:15,667 --> 00:22:18,267 This is what happens when national security anxiety 473 00:22:18,434 --> 00:22:20,067 collides with social media, 474 00:22:20,234 --> 00:22:22,367 and fear is rewarded with clicks. 475 00:22:22,534 --> 00:22:26,167 Speculation takes over, and facts are forgotten. 476 00:22:26,334 --> 00:22:27,566 And within days, 477 00:22:27,567 --> 00:22:31,267 the New Jersey drone mystery went from a dirty-bomb scare 478 00:22:31,434 --> 00:22:33,100 to a full-on invasion. 479 00:22:33,267 --> 00:22:35,167 Only this time, it wasn't a real housewife 480 00:22:35,334 --> 00:22:38,000 raising the alarm. It was a police officer. 481 00:23:10,868 --> 00:23:12,601 2 We don't have any video from her, 482 00:23:12,767 --> 00:23:14,767 but this isn't a random person with a phone. 483 00:23:14,934 --> 00:23:17,767 This is a 911 call from a trained officer. 484 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,767 This was Ocean County, 485 00:23:34,934 --> 00:23:36,934 about 100 miles south of Mine Hill, 486 00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:39,367 where civilian and eyewitness Lisa Puluse was 487 00:23:39,534 --> 00:23:42,267 first recording drones above her home. 488 00:23:42,434 --> 00:23:45,567 A 911 call that came from a state park police officer 489 00:23:45,734 --> 00:23:47,767 who wasn't sure what she was seeing. 490 00:23:47,934 --> 00:23:50,734 She described it as a giant swarm of drones 491 00:23:50,901 --> 00:23:53,067 coming in from over the ocean. 492 00:23:53,234 --> 00:23:56,000 This sighting was one of many that happened in the region, 493 00:23:56,167 --> 00:23:58,834 and the sheriff down there started to raise the alarm. 494 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,267 We have flight radar mapping capabilities, 495 00:24:02,434 --> 00:24:07,200 and we did not see anything indicating it was a plane. 496 00:24:07,367 --> 00:24:08,767 Obviously, they want us to know they're there. 497 00:24:08,934 --> 00:24:10,300 They put on their lights. 498 00:24:10,467 --> 00:24:13,567 Uh, so, who it is, I wish I could tell you, 499 00:24:13,734 --> 00:24:15,267 but, you know, obviously, there's a lot of tension 500 00:24:15,434 --> 00:24:16,734 to this matter throughout. 501 00:24:16,901 --> 00:24:18,868 What struck me when I heard this 911 call 502 00:24:19,033 --> 00:24:21,167 was the sheer number of drones 503 00:24:21,334 --> 00:24:24,267 and that they seemed to be coming from a ship offshore. 504 00:24:24,434 --> 00:24:25,968 What did your office do? 505 00:24:26,133 --> 00:24:28,467 We immediately contacted the Coast Guard. 506 00:24:28,634 --> 00:24:32,601 We reported back around 11:30 that night that there was 507 00:24:32,767 --> 00:24:35,267 11 or 13 of them following their Coast Guard cutter. 508 00:24:37,033 --> 00:24:38,501 One drone that they documented, 509 00:24:38,667 --> 00:24:40,100 it didn't give a heat signal 510 00:24:40,267 --> 00:24:42,934 and it needed another type of fuel source. 511 00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:45,367 Nobody saw them take off or land. 512 00:24:45,534 --> 00:24:47,067 And that's interesting, 'cause at some point, 513 00:24:47,234 --> 00:24:48,767 you would have to take off or land. 514 00:24:48,934 --> 00:24:52,267 So for us, the indication would be that it's possibly coming 515 00:24:52,434 --> 00:24:56,467 off the ocean and possibly a submarine. 516 00:24:56,634 --> 00:24:58,200 What the sheriff went on to tell me 517 00:24:58,367 --> 00:24:59,601 is really quite alarming. 518 00:24:59,767 --> 00:25:03,367 A swarm of drones tracking a Coast Guard Cutter. 519 00:25:03,534 --> 00:25:06,601 The strange thing being that they showed no heat signature, 520 00:25:06,767 --> 00:25:09,567 which suggests that possibly they were trying to cloak. 521 00:25:09,734 --> 00:25:10,700 I mean, this sounds more 522 00:25:10,701 --> 00:25:13,501 like advanced military-grade technology. 523 00:25:13,667 --> 00:25:16,067 And that's why when a congressman went on TV 524 00:25:16,234 --> 00:25:17,734 and made the following announcement 525 00:25:17,901 --> 00:25:20,367 it was a New Jersey resident's worst nightmare. 526 00:25:20,534 --> 00:25:22,300 I'm going to tell you the real deal. 527 00:25:22,467 --> 00:25:25,100 Um, Iran launched a mothership 528 00:25:25,267 --> 00:25:27,033 probably about a month ago, 529 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,934 that contains these drones. 530 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:30,367 - That mothership is off-- - Really? 531 00:25:30,534 --> 00:25:32,033 I'm going to tell you the deal. 532 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,267 It's off the east coast of the United States of America. 533 00:25:35,434 --> 00:25:36,767 They've launched drones. 534 00:25:36,934 --> 00:25:38,367 It's everything that we can see or hear, 535 00:25:38,534 --> 00:25:40,367 and again, these are from high sources. 536 00:25:40,534 --> 00:25:42,267 I don't say this lightly. 537 00:25:44,734 --> 00:25:46,667 Was there an Iranian mothership 538 00:25:46,834 --> 00:25:49,734 launching an aerial invasion near Atlantic City? 539 00:25:49,901 --> 00:25:52,868 If anyone can help me separate the facts from the fear 540 00:25:53,033 --> 00:25:55,868 on this, it's my friend, Trevor Fortner, 541 00:25:56,033 --> 00:26:00,067 a former US Navy counterterrorism special operator. 542 00:26:00,234 --> 00:26:03,734 - Thank you for coming, brother. - It's great to see you, Andy. 543 00:26:03,901 --> 00:26:04,968 What can I do for you? 544 00:26:05,133 --> 00:26:06,667 So, I've been chewing on this question 545 00:26:06,834 --> 00:26:09,200 of the drone sightings that happened in New Jersey 546 00:26:09,367 --> 00:26:10,400 about a year ago. - OK. 547 00:26:10,567 --> 00:26:12,601 And there were all these rumors circulating 548 00:26:12,767 --> 00:26:14,834 about whether or not there was an Iranian mothership 549 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,667 launching drones into the mainland. 550 00:26:16,834 --> 00:26:17,833 How would the United States 551 00:26:17,834 --> 00:26:19,868 react to a foreign naval threat like that? 552 00:26:20,033 --> 00:26:22,834 I don't believe that we would have allowed them to actually 553 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,467 get that close to the country. 554 00:26:24,634 --> 00:26:26,734 So even though it's international water, 555 00:26:26,901 --> 00:26:30,267 it's not really free water for anyone to just sail in? 556 00:26:30,434 --> 00:26:33,267 Not from our perspective, no. We have a nautical statute. 557 00:26:33,434 --> 00:26:34,567 It's 15 nautical miles. 558 00:26:34,734 --> 00:26:37,267 It becomes international territory. 559 00:26:37,434 --> 00:26:39,100 After that, we're still monitoring that 560 00:26:39,267 --> 00:26:40,834 and observing what's happening. 561 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,100 Had there been a foreign threat, 562 00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,267 what's your confidence level the US military 563 00:26:44,434 --> 00:26:46,000 would have neutralized the threat before it even got 564 00:26:46,167 --> 00:26:47,667 close enough to pose direct harm? 565 00:26:47,834 --> 00:26:50,100 - One hundred percent. - That's where I am too, man, 566 00:26:50,267 --> 00:26:52,601 'cause they would have been sunk in the water. 567 00:26:52,767 --> 00:26:54,367 I believe that 100%. 568 00:26:55,934 --> 00:27:00,067 Also, what would be the intent of Iran to send a mothership 569 00:27:00,234 --> 00:27:04,100 so close to our shore and launch drones into our airspace 570 00:27:04,267 --> 00:27:06,400 that they know that we can absolutely detect? 571 00:27:06,567 --> 00:27:09,567 There's easier ways, more efficient ways 572 00:27:09,734 --> 00:27:13,767 to clandestinely sneak items into the country. 573 00:27:18,033 --> 00:27:19,067 Trevor's right. 574 00:27:19,234 --> 00:27:22,100 A ship-based attack isn't very likely. 575 00:27:22,267 --> 00:27:24,367 Boats are slow and trackable. 576 00:27:24,534 --> 00:27:25,634 The nightmare scenario 577 00:27:25,801 --> 00:27:28,167 for every national security professional I know 578 00:27:28,334 --> 00:27:31,200 is a drone attack launched from inside 579 00:27:31,367 --> 00:27:32,734 our own borders 580 00:27:32,901 --> 00:27:36,300 by a group of non-state actors or terrorists. 581 00:27:36,467 --> 00:27:39,200 So if it wasn't a foreign enemy, we have to test 582 00:27:39,367 --> 00:27:41,300 the domestic threat idea. 583 00:27:41,467 --> 00:27:44,868 How fast could a drone swarm go airborne? 584 00:27:45,033 --> 00:27:47,467 And how hard would it be to stop? 585 00:27:58,267 --> 00:28:00,133 2 I'm in the middle of a suburban area. 586 00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:02,968 I have a white picket fence right here. 587 00:28:03,133 --> 00:28:06,267 I have a petroleum depot just over there in the distance. 588 00:28:06,434 --> 00:28:08,267 I have multiple schools and churches 589 00:28:08,434 --> 00:28:09,567 all within the area. 590 00:28:09,734 --> 00:28:13,067 This is a fantastic place to demonstrate the power 591 00:28:13,234 --> 00:28:15,100 of a drone swarm. 592 00:28:16,267 --> 00:28:19,567 A location like this is what we call a soft target. 593 00:28:19,734 --> 00:28:21,868 And that's what the sheriff in Ocean County, New Jersey, 594 00:28:22,033 --> 00:28:24,601 was so worried about when an officer reported seeing 595 00:28:24,767 --> 00:28:26,133 a swarm of 50 drones. 596 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,367 We tried to ascertain, "Is this a government agency? 597 00:28:30,534 --> 00:28:33,267 Is this the CIA? Is this the federal government?" 598 00:28:33,434 --> 00:28:36,567 Obviously, we're thinking national security. 599 00:28:36,734 --> 00:28:38,734 I'm going to talk to the guys operating these drones 600 00:28:38,901 --> 00:28:41,467 to understand if the threat of a drone swarm 601 00:28:41,634 --> 00:28:43,567 could be the key to finally unraveling 602 00:28:43,734 --> 00:28:46,167 the mystery of the New Jersey drones. 603 00:28:46,334 --> 00:28:49,567 That is an incredible display. 604 00:28:49,734 --> 00:28:51,267 Yeah, just a little 80-drone demo 605 00:28:51,434 --> 00:28:52,601 we put together. 606 00:28:52,767 --> 00:28:55,267 We spent a lot of time out here just testing out 607 00:28:55,434 --> 00:28:57,501 different configurations and fleet sizes. 608 00:28:57,667 --> 00:29:00,968 We're operating a giant fleet of drones. 609 00:29:01,133 --> 00:29:03,300 These guys aren't military contractors. 610 00:29:03,467 --> 00:29:05,567 They're a private drone entertainment company. 611 00:29:05,734 --> 00:29:08,734 Everything they need to launch their coordinated drone shows 612 00:29:08,901 --> 00:29:11,167 fits in the back of a truck. 613 00:29:11,334 --> 00:29:13,968 And with a single laptop, one person can launch 614 00:29:14,133 --> 00:29:16,868 and coordinate hundreds of drones. 615 00:29:17,033 --> 00:29:20,367 It's interesting to me that you describe this as a "fleet," 616 00:29:20,534 --> 00:29:22,667 but when you have to sign up for a waiver with the FAA, 617 00:29:22,834 --> 00:29:24,667 it's considered a "swarm." 618 00:29:24,834 --> 00:29:27,000 Is there a difference in terminology? 619 00:29:27,167 --> 00:29:29,834 We refer to it "a fleet" because we have telemetry data 620 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000 and communications with everything individually. 621 00:29:32,167 --> 00:29:33,367 So we can control everything. 622 00:29:33,534 --> 00:29:35,834 "Swarm" is a little bit more terrifying because it just 623 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,367 kind of speaks to, like, controlled chaos. 624 00:29:39,534 --> 00:29:41,467 You know, we're in a suburban area right now. 625 00:29:41,634 --> 00:29:44,267 There are some very interesting soft targets. 626 00:29:44,434 --> 00:29:46,167 If you look at this very same community 627 00:29:46,334 --> 00:29:47,934 through the eyes of a threat, 628 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,167 how easy would it be for someone to take 629 00:29:50,334 --> 00:29:53,000 a commercial drone and use it for something nefarious? 630 00:29:54,067 --> 00:29:56,667 - Very easy-- very easy. - , yeah. 631 00:29:56,834 --> 00:29:58,467 Yeah, very easy. Could probably do it in five minutes, 632 00:29:58,634 --> 00:30:00,033 honestly, at least now. 633 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,868 - Scary. - That is scary. 634 00:30:02,033 --> 00:30:03,300 And that is what we're seeing 635 00:30:03,467 --> 00:30:04,934 play out all over the world right now. 636 00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:06,667 Yeah, very prevalent in Ukraine, for sure. 637 00:30:06,834 --> 00:30:08,667 Very, very prevalent. 638 00:30:08,834 --> 00:30:10,934 Drones have transformed the battlefield, 639 00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:13,300 no more so than in Ukraine... 640 00:30:13,467 --> 00:30:15,501 ...helping the smaller country bog down 641 00:30:15,667 --> 00:30:18,767 their Russian invaders into a near stalemate. 642 00:30:18,934 --> 00:30:21,467 And what terrifies my national security friends most... 643 00:30:21,634 --> 00:30:23,667 is an attack like this. 644 00:30:23,834 --> 00:30:26,567 Tonight, the Kremlin's seeing the biggest drone attack yet 645 00:30:26,734 --> 00:30:28,000 inside Russia. 646 00:30:28,167 --> 00:30:29,567 Back in 2025, 647 00:30:29,734 --> 00:30:31,834 Ukrainian operators hid armed drones 648 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,267 inside specially camouflaged truck beds. 649 00:30:34,434 --> 00:30:35,601 Then those trucks were driven 650 00:30:35,767 --> 00:30:38,200 thousands of miles deep into Russian territory. 651 00:30:39,667 --> 00:30:42,601 The operators remotely activated the drones, 652 00:30:42,767 --> 00:30:45,567 and a coordinated swarm lifted off, 653 00:30:45,734 --> 00:30:48,167 striking multiple Russian military airfields, 654 00:30:48,334 --> 00:30:49,868 taking out scores of planes 655 00:30:50,033 --> 00:30:53,167 before the Russians even understood what was happening. 656 00:30:53,334 --> 00:30:55,067 The lesson wasn't the drones. 657 00:30:55,234 --> 00:30:57,133 The lesson was the tactic-- 658 00:30:57,300 --> 00:31:00,300 an attack that launched from inside an enemy's homeland 659 00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:02,267 that was nearly impossible to stop. 660 00:31:04,734 --> 00:31:06,501 So this is our new warehouse. 661 00:31:06,667 --> 00:31:08,567 We just outgrew our last one. 662 00:31:08,734 --> 00:31:09,868 Ho, ho, ho, ho. 663 00:31:10,033 --> 00:31:13,200 This is our new system, which is basically taking 664 00:31:13,367 --> 00:31:15,834 what we do to a whole new level. 665 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,767 These drones will fly out of the box, 666 00:31:18,934 --> 00:31:22,100 do their whole show, finish, and they'll land 667 00:31:22,267 --> 00:31:25,367 exactly back inside of the spot that they took out of. 668 00:31:25,534 --> 00:31:30,100 I'd say out of 2,000 drones, maybe one will miss their slot. 669 00:31:30,267 --> 00:31:32,367 That's how accurate these drones are. 670 00:31:32,534 --> 00:31:33,601 Now, when I was in the military 671 00:31:33,767 --> 00:31:34,933 and when I served at CIA, 672 00:31:34,934 --> 00:31:37,467 the drones that we were dealing with were gigantic. 673 00:31:37,634 --> 00:31:39,934 They were the size of a Volkswagen Beetle. 674 00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:41,167 And they would carry out 675 00:31:41,334 --> 00:31:42,734 reconnaissance missions, surveillance missions. 676 00:31:42,901 --> 00:31:45,567 They would drop missiles from high altitude. 677 00:31:45,734 --> 00:31:48,300 So this is the whole motherboard. 678 00:31:48,467 --> 00:31:51,868 This is what the brains are of one of these drones. 679 00:31:52,033 --> 00:31:53,467 This is it. This is a drone. 680 00:31:53,634 --> 00:31:55,868 They barely are heavy enough to have to be registered 681 00:31:56,033 --> 00:31:57,567 with the FAA. That's how light they are. 682 00:31:57,734 --> 00:32:00,734 When I see the drone light shows 683 00:32:00,901 --> 00:32:02,834 coming in, especially from Asia. 684 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,734 I can't help but be intimidated by what could be done 685 00:32:06,901 --> 00:32:08,467 with a military grade drone. 686 00:32:08,634 --> 00:32:10,367 Is there a one-to-one correlation there? 687 00:32:10,534 --> 00:32:12,501 A lot of the components are the same. 688 00:32:12,667 --> 00:32:14,734 Those are the same drones that could be used 689 00:32:14,901 --> 00:32:16,667 in a military application. 690 00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:18,000 When you take all of this 691 00:32:18,167 --> 00:32:19,467 and you apply it to New Jersey... 692 00:32:19,634 --> 00:32:20,868 It's not so much that we saw 693 00:32:21,033 --> 00:32:24,167 some amazing technological advancement 694 00:32:24,334 --> 00:32:25,667 that we'd never seen before, 695 00:32:25,834 --> 00:32:28,934 but I think it was more that it was happening in a space 696 00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:31,667 and in a pattern that people had not seen before, 697 00:32:31,834 --> 00:32:33,868 but I think there is a weak point 698 00:32:34,033 --> 00:32:37,200 in our airspace, low altitude. 699 00:32:37,367 --> 00:32:38,467 You know, we don't see a lot of things 700 00:32:38,634 --> 00:32:39,868 operate in that airspace. 701 00:32:40,033 --> 00:32:41,868 You know, zero to a thousand feet is, 702 00:32:42,033 --> 00:32:43,868 maybe if you live near an airport or a helipad, 703 00:32:44,033 --> 00:32:45,767 you see activity, 704 00:32:45,934 --> 00:32:47,767 but otherwise you don't see anything. 705 00:32:48,934 --> 00:32:50,233 Graham is right. 706 00:32:50,234 --> 00:32:52,667 We've all seen the movies where drug runners skim the ocean 707 00:32:52,834 --> 00:32:54,868 to avoid Coast Guard radar. 708 00:32:55,033 --> 00:32:57,300 So when it comes to tiny five-pound drones 709 00:32:57,467 --> 00:32:59,501 operating at treetop levels, 710 00:32:59,667 --> 00:33:01,367 you can imagine how hard it would be 711 00:33:01,534 --> 00:33:02,767 to track these. 712 00:33:02,934 --> 00:33:03,868 But remember, 713 00:33:04,033 --> 00:33:05,367 a lot of the sightings were craft 714 00:33:05,534 --> 00:33:07,133 much larger than this. 715 00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:08,667 What do you think was happening in New Jersey 716 00:33:08,834 --> 00:33:10,266 as experts in drones? 717 00:33:10,267 --> 00:33:12,367 I go back and forth on whether it was our own government, 718 00:33:12,534 --> 00:33:14,501 you know, maybe a radar detection, 719 00:33:14,667 --> 00:33:16,100 jamming technology, 720 00:33:16,267 --> 00:33:18,601 or maybe it's even a social experiment. 721 00:33:18,767 --> 00:33:21,834 Like, how are people going to react to weird stuff 722 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,067 they start seeing at low altitude? 723 00:33:24,234 --> 00:33:26,033 I got one more thing I want to show you. 724 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,267 The guys had something up pretty crazy for you. 725 00:33:28,434 --> 00:33:30,467 So why don't we step back outside again? 726 00:33:30,634 --> 00:33:32,133 Absolutely. 727 00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:33,868 - Alright, let's go. - Ready. 728 00:33:47,167 --> 00:33:48,467 It's just incredible to think 729 00:33:48,634 --> 00:33:50,467 that every one of those lights in the sky 730 00:33:50,634 --> 00:33:54,000 is being controlled by one single operator, 731 00:33:54,167 --> 00:33:55,934 somebody who's on our side. 732 00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,767 But just imagine what would happen 733 00:33:57,934 --> 00:33:59,734 if somebody with hostile intentions 734 00:33:59,901 --> 00:34:01,467 took control of those drones. 735 00:34:01,634 --> 00:34:03,467 What kind of damage could they inflict? 736 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,667 Russian drones were spotted within NATO airspace, 737 00:34:07,834 --> 00:34:09,267 this time in Romania. 738 00:34:10,868 --> 00:34:12,767 If the government was running exercises 739 00:34:12,934 --> 00:34:14,467 to prepare for such an attack, 740 00:34:14,634 --> 00:34:16,367 they'd keep it under wraps. 741 00:34:16,534 --> 00:34:18,467 But before we jump to this conclusion, 742 00:34:18,634 --> 00:34:22,501 I need to pressure-test a more otherworldly theory. 743 00:34:22,667 --> 00:34:24,200 They're not just like regular drones. 744 00:34:24,367 --> 00:34:25,467 They're UAPs. 745 00:34:25,634 --> 00:34:27,667 That's the UFO. 746 00:34:27,834 --> 00:34:29,167 At Malmstrom Air Force Base, 747 00:34:29,334 --> 00:34:31,767 ten of our nuclear ICBMs were rendered inoperable. 748 00:34:31,934 --> 00:34:33,467 At the same time, a glowing red orb 749 00:34:33,634 --> 00:34:34,868 was observed overhead. 750 00:34:35,033 --> 00:34:38,467 Coming up, UFOs, government preparedness tests, 751 00:34:38,634 --> 00:34:40,267 or police drones? 752 00:34:40,434 --> 00:34:43,200 We may finally get our answers to the mysterious drones 753 00:34:43,367 --> 00:34:44,467 flying over New Jersey. 754 00:34:52,501 --> 00:34:54,467 2 Driving home, I keep replaying it. 755 00:34:54,634 --> 00:34:56,868 Takes a lot to scare me, but the New Jersey... 756 00:34:57,033 --> 00:34:59,234 - The rumors... - Radioactive material in New Jersey 757 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,100 has gone missing. - ...the confusion. 758 00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:03,133 Iran launched a mothership. 759 00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:05,067 Weeks of theories about Iran, 760 00:35:05,234 --> 00:35:07,133 missing weapons, manhunts that spread 761 00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:10,467 across New Jersey from November into December 2024. 762 00:35:10,634 --> 00:35:13,767 Right there. Oh, my goodness. 763 00:35:13,934 --> 00:35:16,467 Like Lisa Puluse said at the beginning... 764 00:35:16,634 --> 00:35:18,868 Nobody's giving us answers. 765 00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:20,033 Your mind goes... 766 00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:22,734 all over the place. 767 00:35:22,901 --> 00:35:25,133 Residents across the state were spiraling. 768 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:27,234 Bro, this is crazy man. 769 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,533 It even got to the point 770 00:35:28,534 --> 00:35:31,868 where they were wondering if it was human at all. 771 00:35:32,033 --> 00:35:34,467 These drones are mysterious and they're UAPs. 772 00:35:34,634 --> 00:35:36,767 They're not just, like, regular drones. 773 00:35:36,934 --> 00:35:38,567 Are the drones being controlled 774 00:35:38,734 --> 00:35:40,968 by an extraterrestrial intelligence? 775 00:35:42,167 --> 00:35:44,167 The idea that the drones could have been UFOs 776 00:35:44,334 --> 00:35:45,834 became one of the big memes. 777 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,467 That is a yes. 778 00:35:49,934 --> 00:35:52,834 And once again, officials were not denying it, 779 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,868 even though the drones were using FAA running lights, 780 00:35:56,033 --> 00:35:57,167 and showed no characteristics 781 00:35:57,334 --> 00:35:59,467 of out-of-this-world technology. 782 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,767 All of this got me thinking about something at CIA 783 00:36:03,934 --> 00:36:05,734 that we call "narrative control." 784 00:36:05,901 --> 00:36:08,934 In the intelligence world, this means shaping how people 785 00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:10,467 understand events. 786 00:36:10,634 --> 00:36:14,033 Not deceiving people or hiding secrets per se, 787 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,467 but steering perception in the direction that you want. 788 00:36:17,634 --> 00:36:19,767 There's no better example of this than an incident 789 00:36:19,934 --> 00:36:21,167 that happened 50 years ago 790 00:36:21,334 --> 00:36:25,767 when a UFO story was used to cover up a classified test. 791 00:36:27,367 --> 00:36:30,033 In 1967, unidentified objects were reported 792 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,033 over nuclear missile control centers 793 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,934 at Malmstrom Air Force Base. 794 00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:35,167 Around the same time, 795 00:36:35,334 --> 00:36:37,367 multiple intercontinental nuclear missiles 796 00:36:37,534 --> 00:36:39,767 suddenly went offline. 797 00:36:39,934 --> 00:36:42,467 Missileers on duty would later go on to tell the story 798 00:36:42,634 --> 00:36:45,467 of the day UFOs turned off our launch capability 799 00:36:45,634 --> 00:36:46,667 to anyone who would listen. 800 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,567 And that lived on in UFO lore for decades. 801 00:36:51,734 --> 00:36:53,400 At Malmstrom Air Force Base, 802 00:36:53,567 --> 00:36:56,300 in which 10 of our nuclear ICBMs were rendered inoperable. 803 00:36:56,467 --> 00:36:58,167 At the same time, a glowing red orb 804 00:36:58,334 --> 00:36:59,334 was observed overhead. 805 00:36:59,501 --> 00:37:01,267 But last year, declassified documents 806 00:37:01,434 --> 00:37:03,000 told a very different story. 807 00:37:03,167 --> 00:37:06,467 The missiles being disabled had nothing to do with aliens. 808 00:37:06,634 --> 00:37:10,868 It was all the result of a top-secret US military test. 809 00:37:11,033 --> 00:37:13,234 An electromagnetic pulse experiment 810 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,267 designed to see whether an EMP 811 00:37:15,434 --> 00:37:17,501 could knock our own missiles offline. 812 00:37:19,767 --> 00:37:21,267 It worked! 813 00:37:21,434 --> 00:37:24,767 And because it worked so well, the Pentagon stayed silent 814 00:37:24,934 --> 00:37:26,367 because it didn't want the Soviets 815 00:37:26,534 --> 00:37:28,467 to know what had really happened. 816 00:37:28,634 --> 00:37:30,968 And the government allowed the story about aliens 817 00:37:31,133 --> 00:37:33,667 to go unchecked for more than half a century. 818 00:37:33,834 --> 00:37:35,767 What is that? 819 00:37:35,934 --> 00:37:39,567 The government did not create the Jersey UFO story, 820 00:37:39,734 --> 00:37:41,567 but they did allow it to live. 821 00:37:41,734 --> 00:37:44,567 The fact that the federal agencies responsible 822 00:37:44,734 --> 00:37:47,167 for briefing the public have not come forward 823 00:37:47,334 --> 00:37:49,300 in a clear way is unacceptable. 824 00:37:49,467 --> 00:37:51,167 Why it is that they're not being forthcoming 825 00:37:51,334 --> 00:37:53,167 with this information is confusing to me 826 00:37:53,334 --> 00:37:54,767 and very frustrating. 827 00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:03,133 It seemed like we may never get an actual answer 828 00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:04,601 to this mystery. 829 00:38:07,767 --> 00:38:09,868 But then I get a major scoop. 830 00:38:11,667 --> 00:38:14,367 The New York Post reports that they may have the answer 831 00:38:14,534 --> 00:38:18,767 to what was actually flying in the skies in 2024. 832 00:38:18,934 --> 00:38:21,501 A private company with a government contract 833 00:38:21,667 --> 00:38:24,000 was testing out their newest tech, 834 00:38:24,167 --> 00:38:26,667 a car-sized aircraft. 835 00:38:26,834 --> 00:38:28,067 Does that ring a bell? 836 00:38:28,234 --> 00:38:29,734 And residents have compared some of them 837 00:38:29,901 --> 00:38:32,067 to the size of a small car. 838 00:38:32,234 --> 00:38:35,667 There are SUV-sized drones flying over my home, 839 00:38:35,834 --> 00:38:37,367 so I'm going to make a cocktail. 840 00:38:37,534 --> 00:38:39,067 The reporter who broke the story? 841 00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:41,868 My man, Shane. 842 00:38:42,033 --> 00:38:45,167 We got a tip from a source who was former military 843 00:38:45,334 --> 00:38:48,501 that some people were taking credit for setting off 844 00:38:48,667 --> 00:38:50,667 some of the scares over there in New Jersey, 845 00:38:50,834 --> 00:38:54,100 and they were debuting this manned aerial craft 846 00:38:54,267 --> 00:38:55,767 that was about the size of a car. 847 00:38:55,934 --> 00:38:57,467 This is from a company called Pivotal, 848 00:38:57,634 --> 00:38:59,734 and it's a BlackFly. 849 00:38:59,901 --> 00:39:01,267 Now, on the record, they said that they had 850 00:39:01,434 --> 00:39:02,467 nothing to do with it, 851 00:39:02,634 --> 00:39:05,167 but they did not rule out the fact 852 00:39:05,334 --> 00:39:06,968 that they could have sold to somebody 853 00:39:07,133 --> 00:39:08,400 on the East Coast. 854 00:39:08,567 --> 00:39:10,467 So, Shane, what's your net takeaway from all this? 855 00:39:10,634 --> 00:39:15,367 I do think that I keep coming back to, um, Picatinny Arsenal. 856 00:39:15,534 --> 00:39:18,167 It could be, like, a field experiment, essentially. 857 00:39:18,334 --> 00:39:20,033 It doesn't solve the whole mystery, 858 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,133 but it at least plugs something in 859 00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:24,501 so that we can figure it out. 860 00:39:24,667 --> 00:39:27,267 Even if this eases fears that what people were seeing 861 00:39:27,434 --> 00:39:28,868 wasn't an invasion, 862 00:39:29,033 --> 00:39:32,567 but rather advanced car-sized aerial technology, 863 00:39:32,734 --> 00:39:34,501 the question still remains, why? 864 00:39:35,567 --> 00:39:38,667 What is the government not telling us? 865 00:39:38,834 --> 00:39:40,367 But then I heard this 866 00:39:40,534 --> 00:39:42,601 from the White House press secretary. 867 00:39:42,767 --> 00:39:45,868 After research and study, the drones that were flying 868 00:39:46,033 --> 00:39:47,567 over New Jersey in large numbers 869 00:39:47,734 --> 00:39:52,133 were authorized to be flown by the FAA for research 870 00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,467 and various other reasons. 871 00:39:54,634 --> 00:39:57,300 "Research and various other reasons." 872 00:39:57,467 --> 00:40:02,467 Words that explain everything, but say nothing. 873 00:40:02,634 --> 00:40:06,567 Unless it wasn't just a test of the technology, 874 00:40:06,734 --> 00:40:08,734 but a test of us. 875 00:40:10,267 --> 00:40:11,667 What is that? 876 00:40:12,868 --> 00:40:16,601 Specifically, how we, the public, would respond. 877 00:40:16,767 --> 00:40:19,234 Of all the places to carry out a test like this, 878 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,601 of course you would pick a dense, 879 00:40:21,767 --> 00:40:25,834 heavily populated, urban location like New Jersey 880 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,734 to test what would happen, how would people react, 881 00:40:28,901 --> 00:40:31,667 how would the rumors spread, how would authorities respond? 882 00:40:31,834 --> 00:40:34,067 How would elected officials speak out? 883 00:40:34,234 --> 00:40:36,734 Dozens upon dozens, every single night, 884 00:40:36,901 --> 00:40:38,467 and nobody's doing anything. 885 00:40:38,634 --> 00:40:39,868 It's plausible this test 886 00:40:40,033 --> 00:40:42,300 was as much from an offensive perspective 887 00:40:42,467 --> 00:40:43,868 as defensive. 888 00:40:44,033 --> 00:40:45,367 If you think about the future of conflict, 889 00:40:45,534 --> 00:40:48,567 it's going to be about reaching people where they live, 890 00:40:48,734 --> 00:40:50,767 where they feel safe. 891 00:40:50,934 --> 00:40:53,267 And when you look at how the public reacted 892 00:40:53,434 --> 00:40:55,834 to these strange lights in the sky, 893 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,667 their reaction went from curiosity 894 00:40:58,834 --> 00:41:01,167 to terror in an instant. 895 00:41:02,767 --> 00:41:04,067 Holy crap. 896 00:41:04,234 --> 00:41:05,267 What is going on in New Jersey? 897 00:41:05,434 --> 00:41:06,367 Look at that. 898 00:41:06,534 --> 00:41:09,601 Modern wars aren't won by weapons alone. 899 00:41:11,267 --> 00:41:13,267 They're won by shaping perception. 900 00:41:13,434 --> 00:41:15,968 The anxiety that people are just feeling. 901 00:41:16,133 --> 00:41:18,300 I don't know. I don't know what to think. 902 00:41:18,467 --> 00:41:19,367 Because the side 903 00:41:19,534 --> 00:41:21,734 that can take control of the narrative 904 00:41:21,901 --> 00:41:23,400 doesn't have to win the fight 905 00:41:25,467 --> 00:41:27,400 to win the war. 906 00:41:27,567 --> 00:41:29,667 Cheers, everyone, and stay safe out there. 70184

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