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There's so many things
in the sky right now.
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Let's face it, we live
in a time when fear and distrust
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are at an all-time high.
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There are so many
government conspiracies,
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it can be hard to tell
what's real and what's not.
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The drones off of New Jersey.
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Are they Chinese?
Are they Russian?
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Weather control.
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The death of Jeffrey Epstein.
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The list just goes on and on
and nobody knows
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how to make sense
out of what's real...
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and what's fake.
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My name is Andrew Bustamante
and I am a former covert
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CIA intelligence officer,
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and I'm here to help you
separate fact from fiction.
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Since leaving CIA,
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I've made it my mission
to shed light
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on the lies,
cover-ups,
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conspiracies, and tactics used
to conceal them.
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Now I'm going to pressure-test
the most sensational,
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ripped-from-the-headlines
conspiracy theories out there,
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and track down
key experts,
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eyewitnesses,
and whistleblowers.
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I'll analyze
never-before-seen footage,
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conduct eye-opening
experiments...
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He's right here.
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See the drone
right there overhead?
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You see it?
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...and demonstrations.
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Sleeping all the way down
deeper and deeper.
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It's just so fast.
It's just incredible.
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Nobody thinks of hypnotism
as a weapon.
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My mission is simple...
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Is there a tunnel
that connects us
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to Cheyenne Mountain?
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...to find the truth...
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Epstein was reported to have
actually hung himself
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from this side of the bed,
which is right here.
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...and arm you with the tools
you need to determine
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for yourself what is real
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and what are
you being manipulated
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to believe is real.
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Three-twenty.
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Three-hundred-forty feet.
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Three-hundred-sixty feet.
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Four hundred.
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And 420, which is about
140 yards.
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All right, go ahead
and just stop there
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and stand still for me.
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That's what a person looks like
140 yards away.
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When Thomas Crooks
planned his shot
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on then-presidential-candidate
Donald Trump,
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he was looking at that
in the distance on a stage.
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The would-be assassin was
killed at the scene,
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leaving behind a trail
of unanswered questions.
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Who was he?
What drove him?
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And was this 20-year-old
acting alone?
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It wasn't long
before conspiracy theories
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started to swirl,
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and one of them caught
my attention.
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So you are alleging that
Thomas Crooks was groomed
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by some type
of dark intel program,
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MKUltra or otherwise?
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I-- I think so.
I've said that all along.
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He was programmed.
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Programmed.
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This mind-control theory
took off online.
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Maybe Thomas Crooks wasn't just
some angry young shooter.
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Maybe he was part
of something more sinister.
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A pawn under the control
of the deep state.
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But is that even possible?
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Is it possible to get someone
to take action
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against their will?
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My own agency, the CIA,
spent years trying
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to crack that code.
That isn't speculation.
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That's history.
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I'm not here to unpack
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the Trump
assassination attempt.
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I'm here to ask
a much bigger question.
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Is it possible
to actually create
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a mind-controlled assassin?
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And what I discover
is shocking.
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In my seven years at CIA,
I spent much of it
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operating overseas, undercover,
in hostile territory.
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One of my primary missions was
to recruit human assets--
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to identify people
with access,
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understand
their vulnerabilities,
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and convince them
to switch sides.
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When I hear
mind-controlled assassin,
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I immediately think
of a real program
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that CIA ran
not that very long ago.
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It all started during
the Cold War.
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In Korea,
American prisoners of war
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who seemed brainwashed
and were paraded on TV.
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The die was cast.
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If America's enemies could bend
a soldier's will,
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the US had to learn
how to do it too.
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And fast.
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So in 1953, CIA greenlit
a secret program to find out,
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can you break a mind
and rebuild it?
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The program was called
MKUltra.
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The man in charge?
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Sidney Gottlieb,
a chemist with a PhD
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and an obsession
with a new drug called LSD.
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Experimental drugs,
including LSD,
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were administered
to human guinea pigs,
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beginning with
American soldiers.
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This was a totally different
era at CIA than mine.
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There was no oversight,
and people like Sidney Gottlieb
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were released on the American
public with blank checks
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to fund crazy experiments.
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At Stanford University,
they were handing LSD out
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to students like it was candy.
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An undergrad named Ken Kesey
loved the experience so much
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that he stole LSD
from the lab
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and started handing it out
in San Francisco.
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Everybody must get stoned!
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So yes, stolen CIA acid kicked
off a psychedelic revolution.
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But meanwhile,
MKUltra-funded experiments
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were turning darker.
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The initial goal was to find
the perfect truth serum.
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But soon, the mission expanded.
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Erase memories.
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Rewire behavior.
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The room became
very distorted.
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It was like some kind
of funny hell I'd fallen into
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and I couldn't get out.
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I just wanted to scream that
I wanted to get out of there.
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I was completely...
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Like they had complete control
over me.
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The CIA's ultimate dream?
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Create a Manchurian candidate.
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Now we have come
almost to the end.
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One last step.
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A phrase coined after
the 1959 novel
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about a US soldier
in the Korean War
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brainwashed to become
a sleeper assassin.
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MKUltra was officially
disbanded in the late 1960s,
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but the public didn't find out
about it until the 1970s
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when journalists dug in.
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Congress held hearings
and survivors sued.
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I believe that every citizen
of this nation
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has the right to know just what
is fact and what is fiction.
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Today, MKUltra is more than
a code word.
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It's a meme, a myth,
a shorthand
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for government mind control.
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It's a conspiracy theory that
wasn't just a theory.
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And the idea of mind control
lives on in pop culture...
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in characters like
Jason Bourne,
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and Eleven
from "Stranger Things."
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But I've always wondered,
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what is the real story
behind MKUltra?
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And what did it achieve,
if anything?
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So I started digging.
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At CIA, you're trained to look
where others don't.
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And the more I dug,
the more I realized
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everyone was too focused
on the drugs.
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And that's when something else
in the files caught my eye.
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Hypnosis.
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Controlling someone through
the power of suggestion
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and subconscious
control mechanisms.
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I found that lesser-known
MKUltra experiments
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studied hypnosis.
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There really isn't much
of a difference between
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hypnosis and spying.
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It's all about
influence, control.
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You will leave
your present body.
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The brain has an incredible
ability to frame its reality
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around its perception.
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I want to know, can somebody
actually take control
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of another person's perception,
their behavior, using hypnosis?
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To determine if there might be
a programmed assassin
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connection between MKUltra
and hypnosis, I tracked down
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Mike Evans from
the National Security Archive,
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one of the leading researchers
on the program.
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Are there any conclusions
we can draw
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about MKUltra's focus
on hypnosis?
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There were something like
10 or 12 MKUltra programs
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that focused on hypnosis
one way or the other.
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But a lot of the excitement
about that was kind of
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overtaken by the discovery
of LSD and the possibilities.
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And what happened was during
the investigations in the '70s,
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Gottlieb and his boss
ordered the destruction
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of basically all the files
related to MKUltra
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behind all
the behavior control research.
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And with that void of
information, many people think
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that the American government
may have created
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something else, correct?
- Right.
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In the American imagination,
the CIA was turning people
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into sort of
Manchurian candidate killers.
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And it's important to ask
whether they succeeded
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in doing that, whether
they're still trying to do that.
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So there is no remaining
evidence that MKUltra
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successfully created
a programmed assassin.
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If you were going to destroy
documents, wouldn't these be
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some of the first that
you would want to destroy?
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So my next question is,
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is it even possible to create
a mind-controlled killer?
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Is hypnosis the key to turning
someone like Thomas Crooks
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into a real-life
Manchurian candidate?
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That's a question nobody has
tried to answer until now.
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I think I found the perfect
person to help me answer
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that question with an experiment
to figure out the truth.
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Max?
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Hello, Andrew.
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Can I get a latte
and a glass of water?
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Yeah.
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We've invited our subject
to come here tonight.
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They believe they're gonna
have some one-on-one time
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with me to kind
of explore their mind.
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But what they don't know
is during that time,
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I'm gonna be reprogramming them
to actually poison your drink.
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Wow!
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Max?
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Hello, Andrew.
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And you can just sleep
deep all the way down.
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Max Major is one
of the country's
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leading hypnotists.
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And you can no longer remember
your own name.
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It's just been wiped
from your mind.
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Sleep deep, all the way
down deeper.
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Also a trained hypnotherapist,
Max is known for quickly
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putting people into a hypnotic
state using his mastery
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of focus, authority,
and emotion.
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- What?
- Sleep deep,
all the way down.
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That's why I think he's going
to be my perfect partner
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on this mission.
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I've been a hypnotist
since I was 18 years old,
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so for more than 20 years now.
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So I've always been fascinated
with the mind
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and obviously MKUltra is
a wealth of information
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about how people
can be controlled.
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Without a doubt,
one of the least discussed,
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least referenced points
of MKUltra was really
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the hypnosis program.
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They talk about how
they identified their victims
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out of insane asylums
or psychiatric wards.
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It just seems like a ripe
foundation for hypnosis.
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Yeah, and the other thing
about it is like, most of what
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we know about MKUltra is based
off of witness testimony.
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But the thing about hypnosis is,
I could actually
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hypnotize you to forget that
we ever even had a conversation.
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So if I wipe your memory of
everything that occurred under
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hypnosis, you wouldn't be able
to testify because you wouldn't
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even know anything
ever happened.
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So it's almost like we know
that experiments were done
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with hypnotism, but we really
don't know what exactly they did
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and what the results were.
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You know what's really
interesting about this is that
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in my experience at CIA,
80% of what we do well,
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nobody ever finds out about.
- Insane.
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So here's what I'm thinking.
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- I want you to start crafting
an experiment...
- OK.
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...where we can prove
this hypothesis true.
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Can we create an experiment
that proves that hypnosis
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could have been
a successful tool
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used in the MKUltra program?
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Can we find people?
Can we put them under hypnosis?
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Can we get them to take actions
that they know they shouldn't
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take and then have them forget
about the actions at the end?
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I've never actually
performed in a situation
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where in the back of my head
I have this, like, secret
ulterior motive.
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I only know
secret ulterior motives.
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But what I love about this is
that we could validate that
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it's very likely it's already
been operationally deployed.
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It's been active
in our world for decades.
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- Absolutely.
- And we might be the first ones
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to show that
it's possible at all.
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In my experience,
gaining control
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of a human subject takes weeks.
It takes months sometimes.
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So the idea that he's going
to be able to hypnotize
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and identify someone
who could become
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a mind-controlled assassin
in a matter of minutes
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is just amazing to me.
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- Hey, hey!
- What's up, dude?
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What is
this place, man?
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This place is pretty cool.
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- Yeah.
- This is called
Cosmo's Magic Theater.
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People think that they're coming
to see me do a show,
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but the real goal
tonight is to
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essentially identify
the most susceptible person
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to hypnosis
in the crowd.
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- So this is the actual theater.
- Wow, look at this.
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So, I mean, they're coming
to a real show.
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We've got cameras you'll see
at the back of the room here.
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- Oh, yeah.
- We've got
a camera up here.
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- OK.
- And all of these are wired
to a room I have set up
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for you where you can actually
observe the audience
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throughout the show.
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50 random strangers
were invited.
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They are not actors,
they are not being paid,
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and they don't know that we are
actually running
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a covert experiment
to determine,
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can you create
a mind-controlled assassin
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and make them forget
what they did?
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All right, I should
get backstage.
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Max Major.
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Here's how this works.
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Hypnosis isn't anything
strange or woo-woo.
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It's literally just,
I'm your guide,
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and you're following along
with the instructions
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that I'm giving you.
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People are skeptical
about hypnosis.
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Trust me, I was too, until
I learned the science behind it.
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And here's how it works.
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Let's try a really
simple exercise.
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First, a hypnotist narrows
your attention to one thing.
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It might be a voice,
a task, or your own breathing.
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Put both your hands out
in front of you, palm-up.
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Turn your right hand palm-down.
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The body relaxes,
and the part of the brain that
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evaluates and edits information
quiets down.
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Keep your eyes closed
and listen to my voice.
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Next, the hypnotist
guides the brain
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into a more flexible state.
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And take a deep breath
in through your nose.
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Let it out through your mouth.
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Your critical filters soften
just enough to explore
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new emotions and perspectives.
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Then comes
the suggestive phase.
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Through calm,
repetitive language,
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the hypnotist introduces
specific suggestions
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and reinforces them.
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I want you to look at the back
of your palm-down hand
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and imagine tied to that wrist
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were hundreds
of helium balloons.
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And imagine
in your palm-up hand
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was a bowling ball,
dragging that hand down.
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And as I snap my fingers,
one hand gets heavier,
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the other hand gets lighter,
higher and higher,
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heavier and heavier.
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Now you can open your eyes
and look at your hands.
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But here's the catch.
Not everyone can be hypnotized.
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Some people struggle to focus
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and resist letting go
of control.
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But Max isn't trying
to hypnotize everyone.
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He's looking for the few,
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the few who can
give up that control.
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Anybody else,
when they open their eyes,
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they look at their hands,
their hands were very far apart?
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Could you stand up
and go to the stairs?
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- Just let go and stop...
- Give me the name tag
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on the person with
the goatee right now.
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Noah.
Thank you.
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Delaney, could you come
down to the front?
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You can have a seat for now.
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Dylan, could you join us down
here on stage?
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Give them a round of applause.
They're doing great,
by the way.
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Could you join me?
Noah, have a seat there.
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Look beneath this eye
as I shake your hand.
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Sleep deep, all the way down.
Deeper and deeper.
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Sleep deep, all the way down.
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Max is shaping
this entire crowd.
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It's really
quite incredible to see.
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In a moment, Noah,
you're gonna open your eyes,
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and when you open your eyes,
time will not have passed.
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You'll remember coming into
the show, but most importantly,
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you've never been hypnotized.
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One, two, wide awake,
all of you.
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Open your eyes,
feeling great-- good.
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Can you stand up?
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This is super important,
because if Noah doesn't
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remember being hypnotized,
we can erase his memories.
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Cool, if you could just
get back in your seat,
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because we were in
the middle of something.
- Thank you.
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- Sorry about that, yeah.
- Oh-- thank you.
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How did you end up
at the show tonight?
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Like, why did you come?
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Have you seen someone
hypnotized before,
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or you wanted to be hypnotized,
or you're curious about it?
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- Just curious?
- I was curious about it.
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I've always wondered
what it felt like.
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Right-- so you haven't been
hypnotized yourself?
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I-- I don't think so.
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Maybe you were hypnotized
and you, like, at a show
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or something and they made
you forget or some--
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I don't know if that's
possible, but that would be...
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- I don't think that's possible.
- Oh, yeah.
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He shows all the psychological
and physical characteristics
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that we're looking for
to be suggestible
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under Max's control.
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OK, all right.
Hi, nice to meet you.
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Chris, Max, hello.
Yeah, relax your hand.
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Good, give it to me-- good.
Push down.
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Look at the back
of this finger.
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Good, look right here
at this finger.
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Look up at me.
Can I hypnotize you?
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- I don't think so.
- OK.
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- Well, do you want
to be hypnotized?
- I do.
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OK, go back to your seat,
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just for now, just for now--
I'll explain...
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As predicted, not everyone is
susceptible to hypnosis,
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so Max continues working
through the audience,
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trying to find
the most suggestible,
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the most programmable
potential subjects.
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Sleep deep,
all the way down, deeper.
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Clyde, the next time that
you hear this-- [pen clicks]--
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clicking sound,
you will stand up,
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you will walk over
to the bookshelf,
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you'll place your phone
on the bookshelf,
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and you'll come back
to your seat,
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and you'll close your eyes.
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This is exactly
what we would have to do
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with a mind-controlled assassin.
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Give them multiple tasks
in a specific order
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of operations
that they have to execute.
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And Clyde...
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is following orders right now.
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At just the click of a pen,
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he did exactly
what he was supposed to do.
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One, two, wide awake,
open your eyes.
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I am watching in real time
something that I thought
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couldn't be done, like...
- Where's your phone?
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It's in my pocket.
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Max is
manipulating, shaping...
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...growing trust, build--
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he's influencing
these people in minutes.
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Thank you for trusting me
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with your time
and your attention.
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My name is Max Major.
You guys have been great.
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Thank you so much.
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If you had a person
like this in the field,
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you'd be able to execute a wide
range of operational objectives.
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I mean, this is
incredibly valuable.
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- What the-- holy smokes.
- Yeah, we have some--
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That was incredible, man.
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- I know exactly who I want.
- And I know who it is, too.
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00:20:41,567 --> 00:20:43,534
- Show me.
- Here.
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You made people forget
their name tonight.
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You made people forget that
they were hypnotized tonight.
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If MKUltra had a fragment then
of what you have now,
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they would have been doing
terrible things.
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I'm feeling
uncomfortable already,
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just with you saying that.
- I'm feeling uncomfortable
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because if you could do this...
- Yeah.
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...in 30 minutes...
- Right.
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00:21:05,634 --> 00:21:08,667
...what did
the MKUltra program--
- In 15 years.
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2
Max's group session took place
in a controlled environment
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with willing volunteers.
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But would-be assassin,
Thomas Crooks,
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wasn't in a theater.
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He was in the real world.
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Did Crooks show any signs
of influence?
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What was his mental state
leading up to the rally?
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Various reports reveal
that in the year prior,
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friends and his own family
reported him becoming
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more distant and detached,
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likely signs of
an undiagnosed mental illness.
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But do you know what else can
create symptoms of delusion
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and radical personality change?
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Hypnosis.
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As my hand closes,
your eyes will close
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and sleep deep,
all the way down, deeper.
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This was reinforced
when I saw this interview
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with New York Post's
Miranda Devine
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about Crooks' unusual behavior.
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He became increasingly violent
and sort of radicalized
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against Democrats.
He was pro-Trump.
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00:22:06,934 --> 00:22:10,601
But then something
happened to make him become
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rabidly anti-Trump.
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And then suddenly something
happened in August of 2020,
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and he just disappeared online.
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00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:23,167
So Thomas Crooks goes from
intensely pro-Trump online
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to insanely anti-Trump,
and then disappears.
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Changes like that
don't happen in a vacuum.
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Something must have
shaped his shift.
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If we're going to ask
the question whether a person
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can be programmed to kill,
we have to go back to the case
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that made that question famous,
Sirhan Sirhan.
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In 1968, JFK's charismatic
younger brother Bobby
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was running for president,
promising to end
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the Vietnam War.
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We are a great country,
and a selfish country,
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and a compassionate country.
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And I intend
to make that my basis
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for running and over the period
of the next few months.
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But on the night he won
the California primary...
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...he was gunned down
in a hotel kitchen.
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And the assassin, Sirhan Sirhan,
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was captured on the spot.
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But here's where things
really get strange.
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To this day, Sirhan Sirhan
claims that he has no memory
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of the shooting itself
or of the moments
surrounding it.
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Well what do you remember about
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the shooting, if you're willing
to talk about that?
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I was, obviously, I was there,
but I don't remember
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the exact moment.
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I don't remember pulling
my gun out of my body
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or wherever it was located,
and I don't remember aiming
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at any human being.
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Everything was always hazy
in my head about that.
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That claim,
repeated for decades,
493
00:23:49,534 --> 00:23:50,868
has fueled speculation
494
00:23:51,033 --> 00:23:53,767
that he was under some kind
of hypnotic control.
495
00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:58,067
It raises a disturbing question,
because how can someone commit
496
00:23:58,234 --> 00:24:02,267
an act like that and have
no memory of it afterwards?
497
00:24:02,434 --> 00:24:05,667
Tonight's experiment aims
to answer exactly that question.
498
00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:10,367
Our mission is to get somebody
from Max's show to commit
499
00:24:10,534 --> 00:24:13,467
an assassination and then
forget they ever did it,
500
00:24:13,634 --> 00:24:15,701
which was the ultimate goal
of MKUltra.
501
00:24:29,567 --> 00:24:31,167
I love the setting
that you picked.
502
00:24:31,334 --> 00:24:33,067
Yeah, I think a coffee shop
is the perfect place.
503
00:24:33,234 --> 00:24:34,767
It's also how something
like this might play out
504
00:24:34,934 --> 00:24:35,868
in the real world, right?
- Yeah.
505
00:24:36,901 --> 00:24:38,467
So here's the setup.
506
00:24:38,634 --> 00:24:42,000
We've secured a popular cafe in
town and filled it with people
507
00:24:42,167 --> 00:24:43,968
who know they're part
of a controlled experiment.
508
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,100
We've got cameras
covering everywhere.
509
00:24:49,167 --> 00:24:51,300
In the back room, I built
a monitoring station where
510
00:24:51,467 --> 00:24:53,968
I'll start observing the initial
phase of the experiment.
511
00:24:55,167 --> 00:24:57,267
The subject has been told
they've been selected
512
00:24:57,434 --> 00:25:01,100
to take part in a second round
of hypnosis with Max.
513
00:25:01,267 --> 00:25:04,000
But what he doesn't know is
we're running an experiment
514
00:25:04,167 --> 00:25:06,501
and everyone is in on it
except him.
515
00:25:08,467 --> 00:25:10,667
What they're about
to experience may be intense,
516
00:25:10,834 --> 00:25:13,968
but Max is operating
under strict moral boundaries.
517
00:25:14,133 --> 00:25:16,767
No coercion, no harm.
518
00:25:16,934 --> 00:25:18,868
And if this works,
the implications go
519
00:25:19,033 --> 00:25:20,767
far beyond this room.
520
00:25:20,934 --> 00:25:23,567
In many ways, this is
your first covert operation.
521
00:25:23,734 --> 00:25:25,367
So I'll tell you the same thing
they told me.
522
00:25:26,367 --> 00:25:27,968
Don't blink.
523
00:25:28,133 --> 00:25:30,300
You only get one chance
to do something covert
524
00:25:30,467 --> 00:25:32,000
for the first time.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
525
00:25:32,167 --> 00:25:34,100
- And it's gonna be
over so fast.
- It's gone.
526
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,400
We will find out
tonight whether or not
527
00:25:38,567 --> 00:25:41,567
the goal of MKUltra
was met or not met.
528
00:25:41,734 --> 00:25:43,400
And it's just two dudes
in a bar figuring it out.
529
00:25:55,267 --> 00:25:56,667
There he is.
530
00:25:56,834 --> 00:25:59,601
That's the man
who's going to kill me.
531
00:25:59,767 --> 00:26:00,968
- Hey.
- What's up, man?
How are you?
532
00:26:01,133 --> 00:26:02,200
- Good. How are you?
- Good to see you.
533
00:26:02,367 --> 00:26:03,467
Thanks for coming.
534
00:26:03,634 --> 00:26:04,901
This subject was such a surprise
535
00:26:05,067 --> 00:26:08,000
at the Magic Theater.
Absolutely suggestive.
536
00:26:08,167 --> 00:26:10,400
Grab a seat.
I'll explain what we're doing.
537
00:26:10,567 --> 00:26:15,601
The goal today is to kind
of teach you how to be able
538
00:26:15,767 --> 00:26:18,267
to turn that dial
inside of you to become
539
00:26:18,434 --> 00:26:20,167
the best version of yourself.
- OK.
540
00:26:20,334 --> 00:26:21,400
- You know what I mean?
- Yeah.
541
00:26:21,567 --> 00:26:22,801
All right.
542
00:26:22,968 --> 00:26:25,501
So we're gonna start
with a little exercise in focus.
543
00:26:25,667 --> 00:26:27,267
- Can I hypnotize you?
- Sure.
544
00:26:27,434 --> 00:26:28,801
OK.
So if you could take
545
00:26:28,968 --> 00:26:31,467
your left hand, kind of put
your elbow on the table...
546
00:26:31,634 --> 00:26:33,100
One theory suggests
Sirhan Sirhan
547
00:26:33,267 --> 00:26:34,901
wasn't acting alone,
548
00:26:35,067 --> 00:26:37,667
that a handler was present,
triggering his hypnotic state
549
00:26:37,834 --> 00:26:40,100
and inciting him to shoot RFK.
550
00:26:40,267 --> 00:26:43,767
In this experiment,
the handler is Max.
551
00:26:43,934 --> 00:26:46,767
Here's Max focusing
Clyde's attention.
552
00:26:46,934 --> 00:26:50,000
Sleep deep, all the way down,
deeper and deeper.
553
00:26:50,167 --> 00:26:52,767
And anything you hear outside
of my voice is just a reminder
554
00:26:52,934 --> 00:26:55,167
to come back to me,
knowing that everything that's
555
00:26:55,334 --> 00:26:58,000
happening here this evening is
meant to serve you.
556
00:26:59,167 --> 00:27:00,601
And so if you're given a task,
557
00:27:00,767 --> 00:27:02,400
you'll complete it
without question.
558
00:27:02,567 --> 00:27:04,767
And you'll devote yourself
fully to these exercises.
559
00:27:04,934 --> 00:27:07,801
Almost like a soldier.
So I say, one, two, wide awake,
560
00:27:07,968 --> 00:27:09,467
open your eyes-- good.
561
00:27:09,634 --> 00:27:11,567
I want you to put both
your hands down here.
562
00:27:11,734 --> 00:27:14,467
And I want you to imagine that
in this palm is the strongest
563
00:27:14,634 --> 00:27:16,200
magnet in the world,
and that magnet is drawn
564
00:27:16,367 --> 00:27:17,801
to a steel plate in this table.
565
00:27:17,968 --> 00:27:20,200
And as I snap my fingers,
that magnet becomes activated.
566
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:22,767
And the harder you try to pick
up that hand,
567
00:27:22,934 --> 00:27:24,567
the more impossible it is--
just like life.
568
00:27:24,734 --> 00:27:25,968
The more you struggle,
the more you fight,
569
00:27:26,133 --> 00:27:27,901
the more effort you put in,
the harder things get.
570
00:27:29,067 --> 00:27:31,367
Let that relaxation spread
down through your arm.
571
00:27:31,534 --> 00:27:32,667
And then notice
if you don't try so hard
572
00:27:32,834 --> 00:27:33,901
how easy it is to
lift up your hand.
573
00:27:34,067 --> 00:27:35,100
You'll just feel it
come right up now.
574
00:27:39,868 --> 00:27:41,067
- Wow.
- All right.
575
00:27:41,234 --> 00:27:43,467
These are like,
thinking tasks.
576
00:27:43,634 --> 00:27:46,100
And essentially you're trying
to decode, you know,
577
00:27:46,267 --> 00:27:48,367
how these shapes
relate to these letters.
578
00:27:48,534 --> 00:27:49,801
I don't know if that's
actually a letter.
579
00:27:49,968 --> 00:27:52,467
This brain teaser exercise
is like an anchor point,
580
00:27:52,634 --> 00:27:55,601
what the subject will be asked
to work on before and after
581
00:27:55,767 --> 00:27:57,200
delivering the poison.
582
00:27:57,367 --> 00:27:59,601
Dash, dot, dot, dash,
dash, dash.
583
00:27:59,767 --> 00:28:03,267
He's really just completely
consumed in this process
584
00:28:03,434 --> 00:28:05,701
of identifying
and decoding dashes and dots.
585
00:28:05,868 --> 00:28:08,467
Dash, dot, dot, dot.
And that starts with
586
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,701
a dash, dot, dot.
Oh, it could be a Y.
587
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:15,400
And as this hand starts
to come in, you'll notice
588
00:28:15,567 --> 00:28:17,567
your eyes change focus,
and when you notice your eyes,
589
00:28:17,734 --> 00:28:18,801
you can just sleep deep, all
the way down,
590
00:28:18,968 --> 00:28:21,801
deeper and deeper,
deeper and deeper.
591
00:28:21,968 --> 00:28:25,300
You're gonna sit up right
here with your eyes closed.
592
00:28:25,467 --> 00:28:27,567
Just relax for me
for just a moment.
593
00:28:27,734 --> 00:28:30,200
And I'm going
to place in your hand
this little glass bottle.
594
00:28:30,367 --> 00:28:31,767
You can feel it there.
You can hold it.
595
00:28:33,267 --> 00:28:34,466
Still in that relaxed state.
596
00:28:34,467 --> 00:28:37,367
You can place that glass bottle
into your pocket now,
597
00:28:37,534 --> 00:28:38,968
just somewhere you'll be able
to get it later.
598
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:43,467
The next time
you hear this sound,
599
00:28:44,767 --> 00:28:46,267
you'll stop what you're doing
on the iPad,
600
00:28:47,367 --> 00:28:50,501
you'll get up from your seat,
you'll walk over to the table
601
00:28:50,667 --> 00:28:53,000
in front of you,
you'll take the glass bottle
602
00:28:53,167 --> 00:28:55,367
out of your pocket,
you'll open it up,
603
00:28:56,367 --> 00:28:58,767
and you'll dump its contents
into the glass of water
604
00:28:58,934 --> 00:29:00,467
on that table.
605
00:29:00,634 --> 00:29:01,767
And you just come back
to your seat,
606
00:29:01,934 --> 00:29:03,868
put the bottle back
in your pocket.
607
00:29:04,033 --> 00:29:06,267
And when you open your eyes now,
you'll get back to work.
608
00:29:07,267 --> 00:29:08,501
One, two, wide awake,
open your eyes.
609
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,100
That's my signal.
Let's go die.
610
00:29:23,501 --> 00:29:25,167
Hey, brother.
611
00:29:25,334 --> 00:29:28,167
Could I get a decaf latte
with oat milk?
612
00:29:28,334 --> 00:29:29,701
And then a glass of water.
613
00:29:32,167 --> 00:29:33,300
Perfect.
614
00:29:33,467 --> 00:29:34,767
- Thank you so much, sir.
- Absolutely.
615
00:29:49,868 --> 00:29:51,667
I got a latte up.
616
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,167
Do you have a sugar packet?
617
00:30:19,567 --> 00:30:21,667
Slash, box, slash.
618
00:30:29,367 --> 00:30:31,567
Now, for a little drama
where we really test
619
00:30:31,734 --> 00:30:33,167
the limits
of this experiment.
620
00:30:34,367 --> 00:30:37,167
Will he have any recollection
of his actions?
621
00:30:44,801 --> 00:30:45,968
Oh my God!
622
00:30:46,133 --> 00:30:47,801
call 911!
623
00:30:54,868 --> 00:30:55,934
2
624
00:30:57,567 --> 00:30:58,867
Call 911!
625
00:30:58,868 --> 00:31:01,300
Wait, wait, wait, uh,
what did-- what did, um...
626
00:31:01,467 --> 00:31:02,567
What was the drink
that you just gave him?
627
00:31:02,734 --> 00:31:03,567
I gave him a latte.
628
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:06,233
I'm so--
if you don't mind,
629
00:31:06,234 --> 00:31:07,667
if you could just put this
on hold for one second,
630
00:31:07,834 --> 00:31:09,033
if you could just stand
over here.
631
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,100
Did you see what happened?
I know you were doing the...
632
00:31:13,267 --> 00:31:16,501
Uh, I just heard him collapse.
That was it.
633
00:31:16,667 --> 00:31:19,767
- [bleep]
- Maybe we just sleep deep, all
the way down, deeper and deeper,
634
00:31:19,934 --> 00:31:22,567
deeper and deeper, all the way
down deeper and deeper.
635
00:31:22,734 --> 00:31:24,267
And the deeper you go,
the better it feels.
636
00:31:24,434 --> 00:31:26,367
Everything is fine.
Completely safe.
637
00:31:26,534 --> 00:31:28,100
Everybody's OK.
638
00:31:28,267 --> 00:31:29,167
OK.
We're good.
639
00:31:33,501 --> 00:31:35,200
In a moment,
you're gonna wake up.
640
00:31:35,367 --> 00:31:37,734
And when you open your eyes,
641
00:31:37,901 --> 00:31:39,868
everything will be completely
normal to you.
642
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,367
If anybody were
to ask you what happened,
643
00:31:43,534 --> 00:31:45,767
you would just remember
working on the iPad.
644
00:31:47,467 --> 00:31:48,567
As I say, one, two, wide awake.
645
00:31:48,734 --> 00:31:50,067
Open your eyes.
Good, feeling great.
646
00:31:50,234 --> 00:31:51,767
Clyde, I need you to get up
for me, brother.
647
00:31:51,934 --> 00:31:53,934
- You feeling OK?
- Yeah, I'm good.
648
00:31:55,767 --> 00:31:57,133
Did you see that guy come in?
649
00:31:57,300 --> 00:32:01,100
No, I was doing work
on the iPad over here.
650
00:32:01,267 --> 00:32:03,968
I don't remember
much of anything.
651
00:32:04,133 --> 00:32:05,767
- Can you come with me?
- Yeah.
652
00:32:07,267 --> 00:32:09,133
I want to show you what's
on the other side of the skirt.
653
00:32:14,167 --> 00:32:16,267
Hey, welcome backstage.
I'm Andy.
654
00:32:16,434 --> 00:32:17,367
How you doing?
I'm Clyde.
655
00:32:17,534 --> 00:32:18,934
- Clyde, nice to meet you.
- Pleasure.
656
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:20,868
Do you know this guy?
657
00:32:21,033 --> 00:32:22,968
- No.
- We've obviously
been filming all of this.
658
00:32:23,133 --> 00:32:25,000
I mean, you are aware that
we have been doing experiments
659
00:32:25,167 --> 00:32:27,100
in hypnosis, but there might
have been some other things
660
00:32:27,267 --> 00:32:28,968
that happened tonight, um...
661
00:32:29,133 --> 00:32:31,133
that you weren't aware of.
Can you have a seat right here?
662
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:32,501
- Sure.
- Come on, man.
663
00:32:34,167 --> 00:32:38,267
So what we have here is
a replay of what was happening
664
00:32:38,434 --> 00:32:40,033
just a few minutes ago.
- OK.
665
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,267
I got a latte up.
666
00:32:48,567 --> 00:32:50,467
Thank you.
667
00:32:50,634 --> 00:32:53,300
- Do you have a sugar packet?
- The f...?
668
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,000
- Why did I do that?
- What did you put in my drink?
669
00:33:05,167 --> 00:33:06,467
I-- I don't know.
670
00:33:07,567 --> 00:33:09,767
Do you remember
putting that in my drink?
671
00:33:09,934 --> 00:33:12,767
No, I see that I did.
672
00:33:12,934 --> 00:33:17,567
I don't know what it was
or why I even got up.
673
00:33:17,734 --> 00:33:18,667
I...
674
00:33:20,133 --> 00:33:21,834
I don't know.
675
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:25,567
Let's just watch this part.
676
00:33:34,868 --> 00:33:36,000
Call 911!
677
00:33:37,133 --> 00:33:38,868
Did somebody call?
678
00:33:39,033 --> 00:33:40,667
- Oh, my God.
- So this just happened to you?
679
00:33:42,868 --> 00:33:46,934
I-- I don't know
what went into the cup.
680
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:48,267
Andrew.
681
00:33:48,434 --> 00:33:50,133
I didn't even know
I had anything...
682
00:33:52,567 --> 00:33:55,567
- Do you recall
this event?
- No.
683
00:33:55,734 --> 00:33:59,968
I-- I was sitting down
at the table working on my iPad.
684
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,133
You have no memory of this?
685
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:04,701
You're talking
to Max right now.
686
00:34:07,167 --> 00:34:09,467
I want you to sleep, all the way
down, deeper and deeper, deeper.
687
00:34:09,634 --> 00:34:12,200
I mean, I can't argue
with what I'm seeing...
688
00:34:12,367 --> 00:34:14,133
In a moment,
you're gonna wake up.
689
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:17,367
...but I don't remember it.
690
00:34:17,534 --> 00:34:20,567
How does it feel right now
where you have one memory,
691
00:34:20,734 --> 00:34:22,300
but you're watching completely
different evidence?
692
00:34:24,167 --> 00:34:25,367
It's scary.
693
00:34:25,534 --> 00:34:28,100
It's almost like
two different truths.
694
00:34:28,267 --> 00:34:31,267
Where is the glass vial
that you used on my drink?
695
00:34:31,434 --> 00:34:35,167
- I don't know.
- Can you check your pockets?
696
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,133
Oh, [bleep].
697
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:46,767
OK.
I guess that's it right there.
698
00:34:48,167 --> 00:34:49,667
But I don't remember it.
699
00:34:51,133 --> 00:34:53,067
Imagine, in the moment
of all that chaos,
700
00:34:53,234 --> 00:34:54,567
if a police officer came
in the room
701
00:34:54,734 --> 00:34:55,868
and that police officer said,
702
00:34:56,033 --> 00:34:57,067
"Did anybody see
what happened?"
703
00:34:57,234 --> 00:34:58,667
And someone showed
that video
704
00:34:58,834 --> 00:35:00,200
to the police officer.
705
00:35:00,367 --> 00:35:02,267
What do you think the next
thing they're gonna do is?
706
00:35:02,434 --> 00:35:03,767
I'm done.
707
00:35:03,934 --> 00:35:05,868
What do you think anyone would
think if they heard you say
708
00:35:06,033 --> 00:35:08,133
something to the tune of,
"I don't remember,
709
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:10,367
I didn't have any control,
maybe I was hypnotized"?
710
00:35:10,534 --> 00:35:12,267
What would someone's reaction
be to a statement like that?
711
00:35:12,434 --> 00:35:13,868
They're gonna think
I'm lying.
712
00:35:14,033 --> 00:35:16,667
Right.
For the record,
he's perfectly safe.
713
00:35:16,834 --> 00:35:18,601
And you didn't harm me
in any way.
714
00:35:18,767 --> 00:35:19,968
- In any way.
- OK, thank God.
715
00:35:20,133 --> 00:35:21,501
And there is a point
to all of this,
716
00:35:21,667 --> 00:35:23,767
and you did a phenomenal job.
717
00:35:23,934 --> 00:35:26,133
Maybe it's time to tell Clyde
who you are.
718
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:28,167
So my name is
Andrew Bustamante.
719
00:35:28,334 --> 00:35:30,767
- OK.
- I'm a former
CIA intelligence officer.
720
00:35:31,834 --> 00:35:33,601
And we are here
doing an experiment...
721
00:35:33,767 --> 00:35:38,067
- OK.
- ...to test whether or not
part of the MKUltra experiments
722
00:35:38,234 --> 00:35:40,367
were ever successful.
Are you familiar with MKUltra?
723
00:35:40,534 --> 00:35:42,000
They used drugs--
724
00:35:42,167 --> 00:35:45,033
- Drugs, frequency, I think acid,
different kind of experiments.
- Yes.
725
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,934
To try to take control
of a person's mind.
726
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:49,367
- Right.
- They also tested hypnosis.
727
00:35:49,534 --> 00:35:50,733
Wow.
728
00:35:50,734 --> 00:35:53,000
But one of the hardest things
to find is any evidence
729
00:35:53,167 --> 00:35:54,934
or declassified
documents related
730
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:56,601
to their hypnosis experiments.
731
00:35:56,767 --> 00:35:58,367
So we know they used it,
but we don't actually know
732
00:35:58,534 --> 00:36:00,267
what they did with it
or if it was successful.
733
00:36:00,434 --> 00:36:03,167
And you just participated
in an experiment that shows
734
00:36:03,334 --> 00:36:06,601
how possible it is that this
technique is still being used
735
00:36:06,767 --> 00:36:09,734
in government operations.
- That's wild.
736
00:36:09,901 --> 00:36:10,801
Thank you for your service.
737
00:36:10,968 --> 00:36:11,968
- You did great.
- Thank you.
738
00:36:12,133 --> 00:36:13,267
You did great, man.
I appreciate you.
739
00:36:13,434 --> 00:36:14,567
- I appreciate you very much.
- Thank you.
740
00:36:14,734 --> 00:36:16,767
I promised you I would spend
some time with you,
741
00:36:16,934 --> 00:36:18,834
and if you'd like, I can do
that with you right now.
742
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,400
No strings, no hidden agenda.
743
00:36:20,567 --> 00:36:22,267
I'd love to go inside
with you and just make
744
00:36:22,434 --> 00:36:24,133
a few more changes.
- Yeah, yeah.
745
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:25,601
Yeah, OK.
Let's do it.
746
00:36:25,767 --> 00:36:27,767
One of Max's strengths is
showing people the power
747
00:36:27,934 --> 00:36:30,934
of hypnosis to work through
personal struggles,
748
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:33,868
so he's giving Clyde
a personal hypnotherapy session.
749
00:36:35,167 --> 00:36:36,734
What is the one belief
that you hold
750
00:36:37,834 --> 00:36:39,100
that is holding you back
751
00:36:39,267 --> 00:36:40,667
from being the best version
of yourself?
752
00:36:41,934 --> 00:36:46,100
See yourself holding on
to a heavy bag, and in that bag
753
00:36:47,601 --> 00:36:50,100
is both this belief that
you need to let go of,
754
00:36:50,267 --> 00:36:52,868
"I'm not good enough," and also
anything else that you need
755
00:36:53,033 --> 00:36:56,000
to load into it.
Any regret, any fear,
756
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,734
you load it up in that bag
and it's heavy.
757
00:36:59,901 --> 00:37:01,167
Hypnosis is powerful.
758
00:37:01,334 --> 00:37:03,467
But if you can be strong now
in this moment,
759
00:37:03,634 --> 00:37:05,734
you're only gonna have
to carry it one last time,
760
00:37:05,901 --> 00:37:07,167
and then you'll be free
of it forever.
761
00:37:07,334 --> 00:37:08,868
It can create an assassin,
762
00:37:10,467 --> 00:37:14,033
but it can also do things
as simple as fixing bad habits.
763
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,167
Three, feel the energy
of this universe filling you up.
764
00:37:16,334 --> 00:37:19,167
Four, five, open your eyes.
Wide awake, feeling great.
765
00:37:19,334 --> 00:37:21,667
And as complex
as healing past traumas.
766
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:25,400
- This was a crazy experience.
- Yeah.
767
00:37:25,567 --> 00:37:27,267
I don't even know.
768
00:37:27,434 --> 00:37:29,000
This is like
once in a lifetime.
769
00:37:29,167 --> 00:37:30,734
Thank you for the opportunity.
Thank you.
770
00:37:32,267 --> 00:37:33,767
Max has shown hypnosis requires
771
00:37:33,934 --> 00:37:35,734
a few key ingredients--
772
00:37:35,901 --> 00:37:39,667
attention, authority,
and emotional framing.
773
00:37:39,834 --> 00:37:41,934
And in the wake of
our experiment, when I think of
774
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:45,467
mind control in our world
today, I realize
775
00:37:45,634 --> 00:37:48,267
those same ingredients
exist somewhere else,
776
00:37:48,434 --> 00:37:51,367
in something we all use
every day.
777
00:37:57,734 --> 00:38:00,367
2
What has this experience taught
you about the MKUltra program?
778
00:38:01,467 --> 00:38:03,868
I mean, if there was ever
a question of whether you could
779
00:38:04,033 --> 00:38:06,667
get someone to do something,
that's against their morals
780
00:38:06,834 --> 00:38:07,999
or their own personal
boundaries,
781
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000
I think unequivocally the answer
is there's no limit.
782
00:38:12,267 --> 00:38:16,300
So if we were able to do this
with 48 hours of planning,
783
00:38:16,467 --> 00:38:17,834
imagine what the government
could do...
784
00:38:18,934 --> 00:38:20,267
weeks or months with a subject.
785
00:38:20,434 --> 00:38:22,501
If you would have had a week
instead of 30 minutes,
786
00:38:22,667 --> 00:38:23,868
would the outcome have been
787
00:38:24,033 --> 00:38:25,868
greater, more complex,
more impactful?
788
00:38:26,033 --> 00:38:28,300
If I had more time
with a subject,
789
00:38:28,467 --> 00:38:29,701
I would be comfortable...
790
00:38:30,467 --> 00:38:32,868
setting the task in motion
and leaving the room or maybe
791
00:38:33,033 --> 00:38:34,834
never being in the building
in the first place.
792
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,100
I have no doubt that during
the MKUltra program they found
793
00:38:38,267 --> 00:38:39,868
the same thing that we found
and that's the reason
794
00:38:40,033 --> 00:38:41,367
you've never heard about it.
795
00:38:41,534 --> 00:38:44,734
Do you believe that there
might be hypnotized assassins
796
00:38:44,901 --> 00:38:46,100
floating around in the world
right now?
797
00:38:46,267 --> 00:38:47,467
A hundred percent.
798
00:38:48,267 --> 00:38:50,467
And once they are caught,
as soon as they start telling
799
00:38:50,634 --> 00:38:52,000
people that they were
hypnotized or they don't
800
00:38:52,167 --> 00:38:53,467
remember what they were doing,
what's the first thing
801
00:38:53,634 --> 00:38:55,100
everyone thinks?
- You're crazy.
802
00:38:55,267 --> 00:38:56,167
You're crazy.
803
00:38:57,267 --> 00:38:59,133
They don't remember
anyone they met.
804
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:01,267
They don't remember
even what they did.
805
00:39:01,434 --> 00:39:03,100
They don't even remember
their own actions.
806
00:39:03,267 --> 00:39:04,167
Who are they gonna blame?
807
00:39:04,334 --> 00:39:07,968
That is the ultimate
disposable asset.
808
00:39:08,133 --> 00:39:10,667
So much of this reminds me
of Sirhan Sirhan
809
00:39:10,834 --> 00:39:15,000
and the assassination of RFK
Sr., because even to this day,
810
00:39:15,167 --> 00:39:17,934
Sirhan Sirhan says
he just doesn't remember.
811
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:21,067
He doesn't claim any emotional
connection at all.
812
00:39:21,234 --> 00:39:22,300
He doesn't say
he's angry about it.
813
00:39:22,467 --> 00:39:23,467
He doesn't say
he's sad about it.
814
00:39:23,634 --> 00:39:26,167
He just says there
was this block of time
815
00:39:26,334 --> 00:39:27,567
that he doesn't remember.
816
00:39:27,734 --> 00:39:30,167
It perfectly aligns
with what we just observed.
817
00:39:30,334 --> 00:39:32,567
I don't remember aiming
at any human being.
818
00:39:32,734 --> 00:39:36,100
I don't remember any of that.
I'm sorry.
819
00:39:36,267 --> 00:39:39,033
And I've said that
from the get-go.
820
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,033
The experiment with Max proves
that not only is it possible
821
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,934
that mind control could have
been used by MKUltra,
822
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:48,067
but that the likelihood of it
being deployed in some capacity
823
00:39:48,234 --> 00:39:51,167
today would not be a stretch
of the imagination.
824
00:39:52,467 --> 00:39:54,367
Which brings us
back to Thomas Crooks.
825
00:39:56,868 --> 00:39:59,767
Was he a mind-controlled killer?
826
00:39:59,934 --> 00:40:02,267
There's no hard evidence
he was programmed.
827
00:40:02,434 --> 00:40:04,834
And unlike Sirhan Sirhan,
Thomas Crooks isn't here
828
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,367
to speak for himself.
829
00:40:06,534 --> 00:40:09,400
But we do know this,
his behavior changed.
830
00:40:09,567 --> 00:40:10,934
And it changed
in an environment
831
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:13,267
designed to do exactly that.
832
00:40:13,434 --> 00:40:14,567
I'm not into conspiracy.
833
00:40:14,734 --> 00:40:16,300
Hundreds of spectators
in on this plot.
834
00:40:16,467 --> 00:40:18,167
He's a maniac.
He's a maniac.
835
00:40:19,167 --> 00:40:21,767
Thomas Crooks fits a profile
intelligence agencies
836
00:40:21,934 --> 00:40:23,834
have flagged for years.
837
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,767
A young man,
isolated, disaffected,
838
00:40:27,934 --> 00:40:29,300
and chronically online.
839
00:40:31,567 --> 00:40:34,767
Could internet radicalization
be the modern-day version
840
00:40:34,934 --> 00:40:36,234
of mind control?
841
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,466
How else would you explain
842
00:40:37,467 --> 00:40:39,734
the radical change in Crooks'
political views?
843
00:40:40,834 --> 00:40:45,467
Something happened to make him
become rabidly anti-Trump.
844
00:40:45,634 --> 00:40:49,067
Radicalization rarely feels
dramatic from the inside.
845
00:40:49,234 --> 00:40:50,467
It's incremental.
846
00:40:50,634 --> 00:40:54,000
One video, one thread,
one comment at a time.
847
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:59,467
Until the belief that you held
most strongly is replaced.
848
00:40:59,634 --> 00:41:01,868
And it feels like
it was your idea all along.
849
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,734
If the essential ingredients
for mind control are
850
00:41:05,901 --> 00:41:09,234
attention, authority,
and emotional framing,
851
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,734
modern-day algorithms
check every box.
852
00:41:11,901 --> 00:41:14,467
They decide what we see,
what we hear,
853
00:41:14,634 --> 00:41:16,267
what we're told matters.
854
00:41:16,434 --> 00:41:19,067
So even if Thomas Crooks
wasn't programmed,
855
00:41:19,234 --> 00:41:21,067
he was very likely primed.
856
00:41:21,234 --> 00:41:23,567
Because mind control
didn't disappear.
857
00:41:23,734 --> 00:41:24,868
It just evolved...
858
00:41:26,267 --> 00:41:27,267
into this.
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