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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,180 While their music was known for transcendent vocal harmonies, 2 00:00:03,180 --> 00:00:07,380 Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young's relationships with each other were anything but harmonious. 3 00:00:07,380 --> 00:00:12,120 A toxic mix of ego, drugs, and even romantic conflict got in the way. 4 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:16,980 David Crosby, Stephen Stills, and Graham Nash were all known musicians by the late 1960s, 5 00:00:16,980 --> 00:00:20,460 because they'd all been in successful bands. Crosby was a founding member of 6 00:00:20,460 --> 00:00:24,360 the American rock group the Byrds. Rolling Stone contends that it was Crosby's work 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:29,160 that was central to the band's popular sound, but tensions led to its dissolution by 1967. 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,480 Also an American, Stills had been a member of Buffalo Springfield since the band's inception 9 00:00:33,480 --> 00:00:38,040 in 1966. But it was a group not long for the world, splitting up only two years after coming 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,240 together. Even in that short time, Stills and his bandmates scored an era-defining hit with 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,720 "For What It's Worth," and all were names of musical note when they went their separate ways. 12 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,260 Over in Britain, Nash spent the 1960s as a member of the Hollies, 13 00:00:49,260 --> 00:00:52,140 a musical group out of Manchester. They were still active by the time 14 00:00:52,140 --> 00:00:55,560 Nash encountered Crosby and Stills, and he told The Guardian years later that 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,560 his decision to leave the Hollies was a difficult one. He said of The Hollies, 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,680 "They were my friends for many, many years. But when I heard myself singing 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,620 with David and Stephen that first time [...] I needed to sing those songs." 18 00:01:04,620 --> 00:01:09,600 Crosby, Stills, and Nash had all met each other on the music scene before joining forces. According 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,520 to author Dave Zimmer's "Crosby, Stills & Nash: The Authorized Biography," David Crosby and 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,180 Stephen Stills were aware of one another when they became professionally associated following 21 00:01:18,180 --> 00:01:22,020 the breakup of Buffalo Springfield. But the association wasn't especially professional, 22 00:01:22,020 --> 00:01:26,220 at least not at first. Crosby describes them spending their days getting high and jamming, 23 00:01:26,220 --> 00:01:29,460 but they immediately found a musical rapport with one another. Graham Nash, 24 00:01:29,460 --> 00:01:33,240 speaking at the Hudson Union, remembered visiting America around the same time when he 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,840 was introduced to Crosby by a mutual friend, and then Stills through Crosby. 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,260 It wasn't long until the three men first played together. While all parties agree 27 00:01:40,260 --> 00:01:43,980 that their first time making music as a trio came at the end of the 1960s when 28 00:01:43,980 --> 00:01:46,380 they were at a house in the Laurel Canyon neighborhood of Los Angeles, 29 00:01:46,380 --> 00:01:51,360 they don't agree on whose house it was. Stills insisted to Vanity Fair that it was Cass Elliot's 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,440 home. Crosby and Nash say that it was at the home of Joni Mitchell, a claim she supports. 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:00,600 According to Dave Zimmer's "Crosby, Stills & Nash: The Authorized Biography," when David Crosby, 32 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,440 Stephen Stills, and Graham Nash first decided to come together as a band, one of their first 33 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,520 auditions was for the Beatles' Apple Records. Decades later, Crosby tweeted that they had 34 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,200 played an entire album's worth of content live for George Harrison himself. Stills added in the book, 35 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,020 "After we finished, [Harrison] went, 'Wow!' Then he turned us down!" 36 00:02:16,020 --> 00:02:20,220 Stills put the rejection down to British hostility toward American competition in the rock scene, 37 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:23,280 but Apple passed on many acts. According to Far Out Magazine, 38 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,600 fellow Brit David Bowie was also turned away. Years later, Nash said that Harrison had told 39 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,100 him it was for the best. Apple was a disaster as a label and had CSN been signed there, 40 00:02:32,100 --> 00:02:35,580 they very likely would have been lost amidst its myriad problems. 41 00:02:35,580 --> 00:02:39,900 Neil Young has always been the most distant of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young's members. 42 00:02:39,900 --> 00:02:43,860 Over the decades, Young has often proved unavailable or unwilling to participate in 43 00:02:43,860 --> 00:02:48,240 tours or albums. His mercurial attitude toward work is a well-known trait, and it was among 44 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,020 the reasons that his three bandmates hesitated before bringing him aboard in the first place. 45 00:02:52,020 --> 00:02:56,520 Stephen Stills had already been in a band with Young, Buffalo Springfield. Observer notes that 46 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,720 Stills had experienced Young's tendency to decide against performing at the last minute in that 47 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:06,120 band. So in 1969, Stills looked far and wide for someone else when he decided they needed a fourth. 48 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,800 "I didn't want to be a folk group. I wanted to be-- play rock 'n' roll as well." 49 00:03:11,460 --> 00:03:14,640 According to Mojo, Stills approached Eric Clapton and George Harrison, 50 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:18,780 among others. When Young's name finally came under consideration, Crosby told the BBC, 51 00:03:18,780 --> 00:03:22,500 "We didn't — at first — want him. We knew that Buffalo Springfield had imploded." 52 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:26,820 Apart from Young's behavior, there were issues of pride and ego among the three bandmates to 53 00:03:26,820 --> 00:03:31,020 consider. But Young was eventually signed, for better or for worse. Nash told Mojo, 54 00:03:31,020 --> 00:03:33,960 "It was like lobbing a hand grenade in a vacuum." 55 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,340 Some band names are inside jokes. Some are literary references. And some are 56 00:03:38,340 --> 00:03:42,420 very straightforward. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young is as self-explanatory as they come: 57 00:03:42,420 --> 00:03:46,740 the last names of the four featured players. It came out of the experiences David Crosby, 58 00:03:46,740 --> 00:03:49,620 Stephen Stills, and Graham Nash had as members of bands with less 59 00:03:49,620 --> 00:03:53,820 specific names. Crosby said in "Crosby, Stills & Nash: The Authorized Biography," 60 00:03:53,820 --> 00:03:57,360 "We were proud of ourselves and didn't want to get lost behind some dumb band name." 61 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,020 The band only existed because of its members. Naming it so would not only 62 00:04:01,020 --> 00:04:05,220 declare the music as theirs, but it would also keep anyone from being easily replaced. 63 00:04:05,220 --> 00:04:10,920 "We used our own names because we intended to be able to work in any combination, 64 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,680 and all of us had in mind doing solo stuff." 65 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,220 As for the order of the names, Crosby disavowed any part in the 66 00:04:17,220 --> 00:04:20,880 choice. Nash appeared to take the credit, telling author Dave Zimmer that Crosby, 67 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,580 Stills & Nash offered the most pleasing rhythm and cadence. 68 00:04:23,580 --> 00:04:26,940 While the band members listed in the name weren't easily replaced, 69 00:04:26,940 --> 00:04:31,020 others who played with them weren't so lucky. An early supporting player was Bruce Palmer, 70 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:35,460 once a bandmate of Stephen Stills from their days with Buffalo Springfield. But Palmer, who played 71 00:04:35,460 --> 00:04:39,780 bass on tours, was a heavy drug user who began to behave erratically. According to "Crosby, 72 00:04:39,780 --> 00:04:43,920 Stills & Nash: The Authorized Biography," he became disruptive during setups and once 73 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,820 abandoned a show. His arrest and deportation on drug charges took him out of the lineup. 74 00:04:47,820 --> 00:04:52,200 A similar fate was in store for bassist Greg Reeves. Dave Zimmer notes that there were drugs 75 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,520 and strange antics behind his dismissal too, though Graham Nash named another issue, saying, 76 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,820 "Greg also wanted to sing some of his songs on the CSN&Y show, 77 00:04:59,820 --> 00:05:02,700 which I thought was ludicrous, only because the songs weren't good." 78 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:06,660 Reeves' firing necessitated a last-minute replacement ahead of a tour, and the 79 00:05:06,660 --> 00:05:10,860 bassist hired — Fuzzy Samuels — was another associate of Stills, making songs written by 80 00:05:10,860 --> 00:05:14,520 Stills the most polished. This increased tensions among the named band members. 81 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,540 There were divisions among the members of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young from the 82 00:05:18,540 --> 00:05:22,500 very beginning. Speaking at the time of a 1977 reunion with Rolling Stone, 83 00:05:22,500 --> 00:05:26,400 David Crosby was open about his issues with Stephen Stills' ego, saying, 84 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,280 "He and I used to go nose to nose about once every 15 minutes." 85 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:33,840 Graham Nash, meanwhile, claimed that Stills shoved his and Crosby's songs off of the band's playlist. 86 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:37,680 Beyond the ego-driven conflict, Stills' relationship with his bandmates was also 87 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,580 complicated by his excessive drinking and drug use, which often left him incoherent. 88 00:05:41,580 --> 00:05:46,920 Not that he was the only one indulging. Speaking to The Guardian in 2022, Nash blamed cocaine 89 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,480 for worsening the clash of egos. His reputation among fans was that of the relatively sober one 90 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:57,120 tempering Stills and Crosby's appetites, but that wasn't quite true. In his memoir "Wild Tales: A 91 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,260 Rock & Roll Life," Nash included himself among the members who were "coked out of our minds" during 92 00:06:01,260 --> 00:06:06,000 the recording of 1970's "Déjà Vu." Following the tour for that album, the band split up. 93 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,980 Graham Nash both praised and blamed drugs for various aspects of his own career and 94 00:06:10,980 --> 00:06:15,840 the trajectory of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young in an interview with The Guardian in 2022. Everyone 95 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:20,040 involved with the band had their chance to indulge for good and ill. The presence of drugs, 96 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:25,140 cocaine in particular, hovered over a 1974 venture David Crosby later dubbed the "doom tour." 97 00:06:25,140 --> 00:06:29,400 Rolling Stone explains that the tour was the group's reunion after their first split four 98 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,780 years prior. Everyone was well-supplied with cocaine and other drugs, carefully packaged to 99 00:06:33,780 --> 00:06:38,760 avoid customs agents. While Neil Young maintained some distance in a separate bus, Crosby, Nash, 100 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,900 and Stephen Stills carried drugs and other vices to excess, justifying their behavior 101 00:06:42,900 --> 00:06:45,840 with a need to relieve the pressure of rock and roll careers at their peak. 102 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:50,220 Large portions of the tour went unrehearsed as the four musicians wrote new songs and tried them out 103 00:06:50,220 --> 00:06:54,720 on the road. A similarly lax approach to watching the money meant that a large chunk of the tour's 104 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,400 gross was spent or taken by others. The music itself was often compromised by technical issues 105 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,780 common to the era. And a feud between Young, Crosby, and Nash killed plans for a live album. 106 00:07:04,380 --> 00:07:08,700 After the 1974 tour, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young once again went their 107 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:12,660 separate ways. Attempts to reunite proved difficult. Rolling Stone reported that 108 00:07:12,660 --> 00:07:16,860 a 1976 effort instigated by Neil Young turned into a project with only himself 109 00:07:16,860 --> 00:07:20,940 and Stephen Stills, to David Crosby's great annoyance. Crosby said at the time, 110 00:07:20,940 --> 00:07:22,860 "I have nothing but contempt for those two." 111 00:07:22,860 --> 00:07:26,580 By the following year, Crosby and Stills were prepared to mend fences. Graham 112 00:07:26,580 --> 00:07:30,060 Nash had remained connected with Crosby all the while. But Young was still out. 113 00:07:30,060 --> 00:07:33,720 "If the love was suffering because the situation wasn't right, 114 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,600 I wanted to take the love somewhere else where it would do better." 115 00:07:37,140 --> 00:07:41,820 So Crosby, Stills & Nash reformed as a trio to hit the road and the recording studio. The 116 00:07:41,820 --> 00:07:46,080 group continued on in that configuration for several years. Looking back in 2022, 117 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,500 Nash told The Guardian he was more fond of the work the group did without Young. 118 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:54,180 Even so, tensions between the members remained. Years earlier, Nash and Stills had competed for 119 00:07:54,180 --> 00:07:58,560 the affections of the same woman, Rita Coolidge. Nash contended that this love triangle played 120 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,760 a role in the group's initial breakup, though Coolidge insisted otherwise to People. A hostility 121 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,380 over that conflict lingered, but it took a back seat to Crosby's escalating drug use. Stills 122 00:08:07,380 --> 00:08:11,280 and Nash were prepared to continue without him according to Crosby's memoir, "Long Time Gone." 123 00:08:11,820 --> 00:08:17,100 In 1983, Crosby was arrested on drug and weapon charges and sentenced to five years in prison. 124 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:21,420 While he initially fled across state lines, Crosby ultimately surrendered, serving five 125 00:08:21,420 --> 00:08:25,500 months before he was paroled. The Los Angeles Times reported that Crosby declared himself 126 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:30,540 drug-free on release and set about reuniting with his bandmates. This included Neil Young, who had 127 00:08:30,540 --> 00:08:34,860 long been absent from the group. A backstage encounter before Crosby's incarceration had left 128 00:08:34,860 --> 00:08:39,480 an impact on the prodigal player. According to Peter Doggett's "CSNY: Crosby, Stills, 129 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Nash and Young," Young made Crosby an offer: If he cleaned himself up, Young would rejoin. 130 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,120 The group's full reunion only had a modest impact. Their first album after Young's return, 131 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:53,160 "American Dream," didn't make waves. And Young's return proved only temporary. By 1990, 132 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,280 according to All Music, the group was again a trio, although Young 133 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,700 would periodically come back during the decade for certain tours and records. 134 00:08:59,700 --> 00:09:04,680 Age did nothing to soothe the tempers that often threatened the fragile balance of Crosby, Stills, 135 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:09,000 Nash & Young. Well into the 21st century, they found things to fight about. In 2014, 136 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,020 just a year after the group's last tour, an audience member at one of Neil Young's 137 00:09:13,020 --> 00:09:15,900 solo concerts asked the musician about the next one. Young replied, 138 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:19,500 "CSNY will never tour again, ever, but I love Stephen Stills." 139 00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:21,900 In an interview on The Howard Stern Show the following year, 140 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:25,560 Crosby revealed what seems to have been the source of the hard feelings. He offered an 141 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:28,320 apology for comments he made about Young's girlfriend, Daryl Hannah, 142 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,760 and offered well wishes to Young. Crosby was in a less conciliatory mood when he spoke to 143 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:37,320 The Guardian in 2021. While repeating that he was in the wrong to insult Hannah, he said of Young, 144 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,060 "He's probably the most self-centered, 145 00:09:39,060 --> 00:09:42,900 self-obsessed, selfish person I know. He only thinks about Neil, period." 146 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:49,800 Crosby, Stills & Nash endured as a trio until 2015. But by 2021, David Crosby told The Guardian 147 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,460 that Stephen Stills was the only one of his former bandmates he remained in contact with. 148 00:09:53,460 --> 00:09:57,660 Crosby and Graham Nash had long been close, but they finally had it out. Crosby said, 149 00:09:57,660 --> 00:09:59,520 "Graham just changed from the guy I thought was 150 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,040 my best friend to being a guy that is definitely my enemy." 151 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,880 Nash had his own interview with The Guardian the following year. Acknowledging that he and Crosby 152 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,020 had once been best friends, Nash insisted the acrimony was Crosby's fault, saying, 153 00:10:10,020 --> 00:10:12,480 "When he goes on social media, says I wasn't his friend, 154 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,380 and all I was in it for was the money, that's absolutely heartbreaking for me." 155 00:10:16,380 --> 00:10:19,680 He was firm that any potential reconciliation was not in the cards. 156 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:23,280 "Stephen and Neil and I are great. We talk often." 157 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:23,820 "Yeah." 158 00:10:23,820 --> 00:10:25,380 "We don't talk to David." 159 00:10:25,380 --> 00:10:30,240 By the end of his life, Crosby seemed to have alienated most of his former bandmates. The 160 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,020 Los Angeles Times' obituary for Crosby noted he was also estranged from most 161 00:10:34,020 --> 00:10:37,920 of the members of The Byrds. But it also noted that Crosby's many Twitter followers 162 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,900 never stopped asking about a CSNY reunion, which Crosby never completely shut out. 163 00:10:42,900 --> 00:10:48,300 David Crosby died on January 18, 2023, ending hopes of a Crosby, Stills, 164 00:10:48,300 --> 00:10:52,440 Nash & Young reunion for good. Despite the acrimony they'd experienced with Crosby over 165 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,680 the years, all of the surviving members of the group paid him a moving tribute. 166 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:58,380 Graham Nash posted a farewell on Instagram, writing, 167 00:10:58,380 --> 00:11:02,040 "People tend to focus on how volatile our relationship was at times, but what has 168 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,520 always mattered to David and me more than anything was the pure joy of the music we 169 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,120 created together [...] and the deep friendship we shared over all these many long years." 170 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,780 Stephen Stills issued a statement of condolence on Twitter and offered a more 171 00:11:12,780 --> 00:11:16,380 personal statement to Rolling Stone in which he said he and Crosby had been "at peace." 172 00:11:16,380 --> 00:11:20,220 On his website, Neil Young described Crosby as the heart and soul of CSNY 173 00:11:20,220 --> 00:11:24,480 and praised his songwriting, singing, and playing. He ended with a declaration that 174 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,880 he would only remember the good experiences they'd had together.20239

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