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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,719 --> 00:00:04,640 I can think of three specific moments 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,319 when I should have 3 00:00:16,530 --> 00:00:19,719 [Music] 4 00:00:21,750 --> 00:00:25,570 [Music] 5 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:31,840 died to to uh the people who knock these 6 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,879 buildings down are here all of us 7 00:00:34,879 --> 00:00:38,760 soon America is at 8 00:00:41,260 --> 00:00:49,189 [Music] 9 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,389 [Music] 10 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,960 War my dad was was born in Colorado and 11 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:02,600 and uh he was an FBI agent and his 12 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,720 greatest expectation was that his oldest 13 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,799 son me would would go to South Bend and 14 00:01:07,799 --> 00:01:11,200 attend Notre Dame as well I went to all 15 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,799 boys Catholic High School as a 2-year 16 00:01:12,799 --> 00:01:14,799 starter on the football team but I 17 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:16,640 really didn't think I could get in there 18 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,520 academically and I knew I couldn't play 19 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,880 for them in the fall of 63 right after 20 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,920 Kennedy's assassination my father said 21 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,400 to me you should consider Notre Dame and 22 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,119 I said Dad I can't get in there so he 23 00:01:29,119 --> 00:01:30,439 applied for me 24 00:01:30,439 --> 00:01:32,560 and then what I think happened is that 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:33,920 he must have called the admissions 26 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,040 office every other week to say I'm an 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,880 Alum I contribut to the Alumni 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,960 Association and my boss is Jer Hoover I 29 00:01:39,960 --> 00:01:42,680 want my son to go go to Notre 30 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,200 Dame in this fall of 1964 I went off to 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,040 South 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,079 Bend I wasn't a good student I flunked 33 00:01:51,079 --> 00:01:53,520 out in uh June of 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,000 1966 and came home to pretty angry and 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,320 devastated parents for sure and my 36 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,719 father was was 37 00:02:00,719 --> 00:02:04,159 angry beyond angry the first thing he 38 00:02:04,159 --> 00:02:07,159 said when I walked in the kitchen he had 39 00:02:07,159 --> 00:02:09,759 the letter in his hand and he said 40 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:11,239 godamn it you're going to get drafted 41 00:02:11,239 --> 00:02:13,080 now that's what's going to happen to you 42 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,160 you're going to get drafted you know it 43 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,840 was awful it wasn't a happy time and 44 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,239 then in October without telling a single 45 00:02:21,239 --> 00:02:23,080 person I went down and saw Marine Corp 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,599 recruiter in New Haven Connecticut when 47 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:28,560 I told him that I had signed up and was 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,280 enlisted and I'm going 49 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,840 he said you know when you flunked out 50 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,120 this was this was immaturity and this 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,239 was foolishness and you were a young kid 52 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:38,640 and I understand that it does happen he 53 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:41,040 said but this and he pointed like that 54 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,560 this and putting up my contract he said 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,120 this is spite you're just doing this to 56 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,040 spite us and I just said Dad no it's not 57 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,640 spite I got to go I need to go away he 58 00:02:51,640 --> 00:02:54,200 said I never thought I'd live to see the 59 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,680 day when I would consider my oldest son 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,400 to be an and on the word 61 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,120 he really stopped talking to me he never 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,760 said go start the car pass me the 63 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,239 mustard he also never said Happy 64 00:03:05,239 --> 00:03:06,840 Thanksgiving he never said Merry 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,560 Christmas and he never said Happy New 66 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,920 Year and in fourth or fifth of January 67 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:14,440 he had already gone to work I hadn't 68 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,640 talked to him and uh my mother was in 69 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:19,400 the kitchen and I said ma they the 70 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,400 recruiter said that my graduation will 71 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,040 be in in March right around St Patrick's 72 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,599 Day 67 and she said no no Dennis no no 73 00:03:28,599 --> 00:03:30,319 no the The Graduate ation we were going 74 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:32,000 to go to was the one in South Bend IN 75 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,720 1968 but we're not going any dumb 76 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,319 graduation in South 77 00:03:36,319 --> 00:03:40,200 Carolina that's how I went out the 78 00:03:43,959 --> 00:03:46,640 door at the end of boot camp I had made 79 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,040 PFC I knew I was going to be a on 80 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,120 graduation I had that so I had to I had 81 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,360 done really well there 3 days before 82 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,519 graduation we were sitting in a school 83 00:03:56,519 --> 00:03:58,840 circle around the drill instructor and 84 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,480 he was reading the Moss's and I wanted 85 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,640 to hear 03 I mean I didn't want to drive 86 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,239 a truck I didn't want to be a cook I 87 00:04:05,239 --> 00:04:07,680 mean I wanted to hear 03 that's all I 88 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,280 wanted to hear I knew 08 was artillery 89 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,159 and to me artillery was driving a truck 90 00:04:12,159 --> 00:04:14,000 full of shells you know pulling a 91 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,079 lanyard on a cannon and having a sh go 92 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:17,880 out and I didn't want that either and so 93 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,000 in this school Circle that night when he 94 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,479 got to me he yelled my name and I jumped 95 00:04:22,479 --> 00:04:25,240 up and he said 08 and I 96 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,240 winced and he said what the is 97 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,199 wrong with you what's wrong with you 98 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:30,320 private 99 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,800 I said sir the private was hoping to 100 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,160 hear 03 sir he said well it's ' 08 do 101 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,600 you know what that is and I said the 102 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,280 private understands that it's artillery 103 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:43,280 sir he said yes it is you're 0849 you're 104 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:44,800 going to be a Ford Observer you'll be 105 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,680 dead before Christmas sit the goddamn 106 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,000 hell 107 00:04:49,039 --> 00:04:52,080 down this evening I came here to speak 108 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,720 to you about Vietnam the military can no 109 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,280 longer justify this war with a casualty 110 00:04:57,280 --> 00:04:59,639 count more Marines are dying along the D 111 00:04:59,639 --> 00:05:02,960 MZ than enemy this is a different kind 112 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,160 of 113 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:09,339 [Music] 114 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,000 War when we were getting ready to leave 115 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,360 from Vietnam we got to the terminal this 116 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,840 big Continental jet landed the plane 117 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:24,680 opened up doors and guys came down the 118 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,919 steps they look terrible uniforms didn't 119 00:05:27,919 --> 00:05:29,759 fit and they had big Dark Shadows under 120 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:32,479 their eyes looking at them like man what 121 00:05:32,479 --> 00:05:34,400 have we we signed up for and a couple 122 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,400 hours later we got on the 123 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,479 plane came out the door to this 124 00:05:41,479 --> 00:05:42,880 oppressive heat and these terrible 125 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,520 smells and the humidity and just 126 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,680 staggering really ter you kept hearing 127 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,080 was we're going to go north we're going 128 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,120 to go north eventually my name was 129 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,400 called and I went with the group and 130 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,000 they said you'll be flying up to 131 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,080 donga and they said you're only here for 132 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,479 a day and you're going to 133 00:05:58,479 --> 00:06:01,400 quesan 134 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,560 US Marine Corps Jets unleash a heavy 135 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,440 bomb attack on Hill 861 near quesan 136 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,599 South Vietnam when I checked in with the 137 00:06:08,599 --> 00:06:11,360 CEO or the first sergeant he said to me 138 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,759 they're going to get attached out to an 139 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:14,599 infantry company and it was real 140 00:06:14,599 --> 00:06:16,280 peaceful there they had not taken a 141 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:19,560 round of incoming since the summertime 142 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,680 the hill fights were not a memory but 143 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,639 they were in the past but they were 144 00:06:23,639 --> 00:06:25,520 famous in Marine Corps history and guy 145 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,319 said see that hill over there that bump 146 00:06:27,319 --> 00:06:28,880 that dirty bump of Hill I said yeah he 147 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,639 said that's Hill 61 and this is so 148 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:33,360 historical it's like Bunker Hill or 149 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,440 Omaha Beach that I went and took a 150 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:36,800 picture of it with my camera and I 151 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,919 didn't realized then that on the day 152 00:06:38,919 --> 00:06:41,039 after Christmas in ' 67 I'd be on that 153 00:06:41,039 --> 00:06:43,880 hill and go through the seats there two 154 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,000 days later this Lieutenant looked pretty 155 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 beat up came up to me and he said I'm 156 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,840 Lieutenant holderness I've been the fo 157 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:52,440 here are the maps here's the compass 158 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,560 here are some binoculars and I said I do 159 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,759 I hold these for the the lieutenant and 160 00:06:57,759 --> 00:06:59,240 he said no there's a shortage of wine 161 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,440 off officers you're the 162 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,440 fo in the Marine Corps fo team there's 163 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,000 an officer there's an enlisted Scout and 164 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,960 there's a radio operator who's also 165 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,240 enlisted my company Commander had a 166 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,639 staff meeting so I walked in with my 167 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:17,039 little Paris Island red notebook and he 168 00:07:17,039 --> 00:07:19,120 looked up and he said who the are 169 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,479 you the gunny jumped up and said this is 170 00:07:21,479 --> 00:07:23,800 PFC Manion sir he's cing Lieutenant 171 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,400 holder's job he said Jesus I can't have 172 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,440 a non- NCO at my staff meetings make him 173 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,400 a Corporal and the first sergeant jumped 174 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,000 up and said sir he hasn't been a he 175 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,120 hasn't been a lance corporal yet he said 176 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,440 first sergeant it's 0930 promote him to 177 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,319 Lance corporal when he comes back from 178 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:41,080 noow make him a Corporal and that's how 179 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,720 I got to be a 180 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,039 Corporal the number of operations pretty 181 00:07:54,039 --> 00:07:57,479 minor in the fall of 67 and and in 182 00:07:57,479 --> 00:08:00,000 November we were at dong 183 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,960 and they told us that kilo company was 184 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,919 going to go up Route One the next day 185 00:08:03,919 --> 00:08:06,479 and establish another fire 186 00:08:06,479 --> 00:08:08,879 base the trucks were actually rolling up 187 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:11,319 the road and then a Jeep went flying by 188 00:08:11,319 --> 00:08:12,759 and pulled in front of the first truck 189 00:08:12,759 --> 00:08:15,440 and stopped and a major got out and he 190 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,440 said got to turn these trucks around 191 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,720 they're going to quesan so they turned 192 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,120 all the trucks around we went right to 193 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,199 the air strip at donga got on Choppers 194 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:26,720 and they flew us to quesan that was the 195 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:31,240 buildup for what became the siege 196 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,919 we got there on the 12th we started 197 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:38,839 running patrols every day but there was 198 00:08:38,839 --> 00:08:40,760 no gunfire there was no fighting 199 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,080 absolutely none and then Christmas came 200 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,080 and went and on the 26th we saddled up 201 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,200 and we walked at least 1,000 M off the 202 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,080 flat ground and then worked our way up 203 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,480 to 861 elevation 6 got one by Machine 204 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,560 Gun we ran patrols every day starting on 205 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:00,160 the 27 206 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,760 of 207 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,959 December there was a long Patrol and a 208 00:09:03,959 --> 00:09:06,120 short one and the fo team went with the 209 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,760 long Patrol on the 15th of January they 210 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,880 sealed up the gates no more patrolling 211 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,959 outside the hills 5 days later it's the 212 00:09:13,959 --> 00:09:16,160 20th couple Marines spotted a couple NVA 213 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,600 on the ridgel line 500 M away from us we 214 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,160 called in a fire 215 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,880 mission adjusted twice 12 rounds maybe 216 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,440 105s and then they organized the patrol 217 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,640 they got permission to go out and I 218 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,959 didn't have go but I wanted to go I 219 00:09:30,959 --> 00:09:32,920 wanted to see where the rounds hit and 220 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,519 what it might have done I wore my black 221 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:36,920 low Converse 222 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,880 sneakers 45 minutes later we're up there 223 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,320 the elephant grass is all smashed down 224 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,360 there's blood Trails there's pools of 225 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,440 blood there were no bodies right there 226 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,640 they were drag marks going to the West 227 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,800 so we requested permission to go after 228 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,839 them and the radar operator two seconds 229 00:09:56,839 --> 00:09:58,720 later said permission denied turn around 230 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,600 and come back back and the staff 231 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,320 sergeant got on the horn and he said 232 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,120 there's blood stains here request 233 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,600 permission to pursue further and Jasper 234 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,399 got on the radio personally and said 235 00:10:10,399 --> 00:10:14,000 turn your men around now and come back 236 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,440 down at the combat base somebody stood 237 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,600 up outside the last strand of wire with 238 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,200 a white rag in his hand it was an NBAA 239 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,120 guy he was an officer and he said 240 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,000 tonight at midnight 861 is going to get 241 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,680 attacked 811 South is going to get 242 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:30,079 attacked and the combat base when the 243 00:10:30,079 --> 00:10:32,760 sun comes up started to get dark and we 244 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,120 were on 100% alert because the NVA were 245 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,760 out there cutting the wire you could 246 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,920 hear them you could hear the wire being 247 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,639 cut you'd hear and then the wire would 248 00:10:40,639 --> 00:10:43,160 spring back and they were giggling and 249 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,240 laughing and you couldn't see them in 250 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,200 total darkness and it was really 251 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,760 eerie to listen to people cutting the 252 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,680 wire because they know they're coming 253 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:55,360 through there at some 254 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,600 point just before midnight we heard a 255 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,720 noise a voice coming up from the trench 256 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,480 line there was a Navy Corman Malcolm Mo 257 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,639 what are you doing up here so I got to 258 00:11:04,639 --> 00:11:06,800 go to the bathroom and at the same time 259 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,320 that happened we got a call on the 260 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,880 landline from the captain that there 261 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,920 were NVA spotted outside of the wire at 262 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,160 the southern end of the hill and he 263 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,240 wanted us to go down there by the time 264 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:17,920 we got down there we were just crossing 265 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,440 the LZ when a green flare went up and 266 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,200 all of a sudden the entire northwest 267 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,720 corner of the hill was being 268 00:11:27,959 --> 00:11:29,920 targeted 269 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,079 Mal was actually W his way down from 270 00:11:32,079 --> 00:11:33,800 using the bathroom he was halfway down 271 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,600 the slope and an RPG killed him 272 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,279 instantly I used to think about him for 273 00:11:40,279 --> 00:11:43,240 the longest time still do to be by 274 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,800 himself with no one 275 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,440 around moving down the hill in the dark 276 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,519 picking his way down and thinking how 277 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:52,320 scared he must have been but hustling 278 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,320 back down to be with his platoon when 279 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,360 when the round came in and he 280 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,560 was he 281 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:01,680 he because of his personality and the 282 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:03,200 fact that 283 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,360 he we were friendly with him and he 284 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,399 liked David and I it really stung it 285 00:12:08,399 --> 00:12:10,680 really 286 00:12:11,810 --> 00:12:17,210 [Music] 287 00:12:17,639 --> 00:12:20,120 did I said to David we've got to get 288 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,399 back up we need to get back up to the 289 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:24,920 top and we got near the CP bunker and it 290 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,480 was already in 291 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,079 shambles I said David we can't go across 292 00:12:29,079 --> 00:12:31,160 the top of the hill we need to go back 293 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,440 down get to the trench line and we'll 294 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,680 work our way up the Western trench line 295 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:37,199 meanwhile you know explosions and 296 00:12:37,199 --> 00:12:40,279 gunfire and Rec Callin 297 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,639 105s we worked our way up the trench 298 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:45,680 line and at some point there was this 299 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:49,120 huge explosion to our right and above us 300 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,519 almost green and it was the 106 301 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:54,199 recoiless rifle position being blown up 302 00:12:54,199 --> 00:12:55,560 with all the ammunition stacked 303 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:57,639 underneath it you can't see anything 304 00:12:57,639 --> 00:12:59,639 it's totally dark then we got to a 305 00:12:59,639 --> 00:13:01,920 machine gun bunker and I yelled where's 306 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,880 your team where are they and he said I 307 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,360 don't know they're gone they ran I mean 308 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,480 they left 309 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,720 him he said what are you doing here 310 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,199 Dennis and I said well we' got to get up 311 00:13:11,199 --> 00:13:12,720 further around the corner to be able to 312 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,440 see and he said well there's an NBAA guy 313 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,360 right in the trench line there you're 314 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,959 going to have to get by him and he's 315 00:13:18,959 --> 00:13:19,880 still 316 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,360 alive I said to David give me your 45 317 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,680 and I eased my body out of the back of 318 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:27,880 that machine gun bunker and into the 319 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,800 trench line like this and I was feeling 320 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,680 in the dark and scooting out further and 321 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:34,279 further and I got to a point where I 322 00:13:34,279 --> 00:13:36,279 felt his 323 00:13:36,279 --> 00:13:39,040 hair and I pushed a little bit and he 324 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,880 started to bring his head up he was 325 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,040 lying face down and I just took my hand 326 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,920 away and in the dark I just 327 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,839 fired we knew he was dead 328 00:13:49,839 --> 00:13:52,279 then and then we worked our way to 329 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:54,399 another bunker and we took over that 330 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:57,040 where we could see the ridge line and 331 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,800 call in Fire and adjust fire and so we 332 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,680 were there for the rest of the night and 333 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:05,040 it gradually eased off and it's clear we 334 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,399 weren't going to be contested any 335 00:14:07,399 --> 00:14:10,000 further and then got to be just about 336 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,839 sunlight and all of a sudden from the 337 00:14:11,839 --> 00:14:15,680 southwest here baboom baboom and it was 338 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:17,519 the opening rounds of the artillery 339 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:19,240 hitting the combat base and the rockets 340 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,199 and the guy was right it was just after 341 00:14:21,199 --> 00:14:22,480 sunlight they were going to attack the 342 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,440 base but they had figured at that point 343 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,279 they they would have overrun both Hills 344 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:30,680 and that didn't happen obviously 345 00:14:34,079 --> 00:14:36,920 when the sun came up the combat base was 346 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,040 now being shelled we needed to get to 347 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,560 the top of the hill so we went back down 348 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,199 the trench line stepped right on the 349 00:14:42,199 --> 00:14:44,759 dead NVA soldier in the trench and then 350 00:14:44,759 --> 00:14:46,560 worked our way to The Landing Zone and 351 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,399 then went up the hill that way we came 352 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:49,880 around the corner and the Gunnery 353 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,759 Sergeant who I really liked Melvin rmo 354 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:54,279 gunny Melvin rmel he was laying on his 355 00:14:54,279 --> 00:14:56,560 back and I closed his eyes used my 356 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,680 thumbs and I closed his eyes for him 357 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,519 I mean I literally cried for him and for 358 00:15:02,519 --> 00:15:05,120 all of us 359 00:15:06,839 --> 00:15:09,279 really gunary sergeants and Marine Corp 360 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:10,880 their job is to kick people in the ass 361 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,279 and do what the captain wants him to do 362 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,079 and to see him dead like that I thought 363 00:15:16,079 --> 00:15:17,800 Jesus I mean if a guy like this gets 364 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,720 killed we we all going to get 365 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,519 killed he told a bunch of us at one 366 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:25,600 point five or six days before a Siege 367 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,279 it's going to get bad here and we know 368 00:15:28,279 --> 00:15:30,680 it's going to get bad you need to look 369 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,880 out for each other you cannot be afraid 370 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,720 you need to act with courage but make 371 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,360 sure you trust the people to your right 372 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,279 and to your 373 00:15:39,279 --> 00:15:43,120 left he said all of this is fate 5 days 374 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,920 later he's 375 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,160 dead con rumo 376 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,199 God 377 00:16:00,199 --> 00:16:03,279 they sent a patrol out the next morning 378 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:05,720 so it's the 22nd and I went they were 379 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,079 only going to go right outside the 380 00:16:07,079 --> 00:16:09,240 triple concertina to see if there were 381 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,839 any dead that they could bring in 382 00:16:11,839 --> 00:16:13,639 somehow those guys got inside the wire 383 00:16:13,639 --> 00:16:15,000 in the first 10 384 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,959 minutes when they withdrew they dragged 385 00:16:17,959 --> 00:16:19,680 as many of their dead people away as 386 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,880 they 387 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,680 could the people they couldn't drag away 388 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,240 were the people who were on the hill but 389 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,160 just inside the wire and people in The 390 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,160 Wire itself there must have been 20 or 391 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,639 30 of them out 392 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:36,279 there those guys rotted over the next 393 00:16:36,279 --> 00:16:38,079 week just rotted 394 00:16:38,079 --> 00:16:40,040 terribly when the wind was blowing 395 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,759 towards us down in that end of the 396 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:43,480 trench line where there gas mask at 397 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,120 times from the stench and literally with 398 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,440 my binoculars you could see an arm 399 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,519 inside the wire with just a skeleton 400 00:16:50,519 --> 00:16:52,519 where his hand used to be the rats 401 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:53,920 cleaned them out and the maggots cleaned 402 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,810 them 403 00:16:55,810 --> 00:16:57,480 [Applause] 404 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,360 out 405 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,319 life on the hill deteriorated into just 406 00:17:02,319 --> 00:17:04,039 living in the 407 00:17:04,039 --> 00:17:06,959 ground all the digging we did on a61 was 408 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:08,760 with entrenching tools there was not one 409 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,480 shovel on the hill all the food and all 410 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,640 the water had to come to h61 by 411 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,679 helicopter we didn't have our own water 412 00:17:15,679 --> 00:17:17,799 source we were sometimes one canteen a 413 00:17:17,799 --> 00:17:20,439 day we lived in the dirt we slept on the 414 00:17:20,439 --> 00:17:22,919 pieces of cardboard that se Rion were 415 00:17:22,919 --> 00:17:25,679 wrapped up in your pants got so filthy 416 00:17:25,679 --> 00:17:27,720 dirty and crusted that they would rot 417 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,480 off at the knee 418 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,200 the hooded sweatshirt my father sent me 419 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,000 the arms rotted off eventually I took a 420 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,120 field shower in donga just after 421 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:38,679 Thanksgiving in in ' 67 when we were 422 00:17:38,679 --> 00:17:40,840 going up going up to conen and I didn't 423 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,559 wash until we got out of quesan in April 424 00:17:43,559 --> 00:17:44,760 of 425 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,190 68 that's what life on the hill was 426 00:17:48,190 --> 00:17:51,240 [Music] 427 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,720 like so tell me about this map where 428 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,480 where did this map come from as an fo 429 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,000 you have to have a map be able to call 430 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,840 in get coordinates and call in 431 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,960 artillery I got this one and it's 432 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,640 actually two maps that I taped together 433 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:05,880 because at the time we didn't know which 434 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,280 way we would be going it soon became red 435 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,080 from the 436 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,200 dust every square that you see is a 437 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,200 th000 m these are thousand meter grid 438 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,120 squares I look at this map sometime at 439 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:19,880 night and I think about all the stuff 440 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,600 that happened in particular grid squares 441 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,559 not specifically but I think people were 442 00:18:23,559 --> 00:18:26,720 there they were trying to kill one 443 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,040 another 444 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,140 [Applause] 445 00:18:32,679 --> 00:18:34,600 at some point I radiated the combat base 446 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,480 and I asked them for a pair of an extra 447 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,960 pair of binoculars for my radio operator 448 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,799 so when I radio down they said we don't 449 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:43,280 have any so the next day after the 21st 450 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,000 when we got over partially overrun I 451 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,320 radio down and said my my my binoculars 452 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,520 got blown up and that afternoon we had 453 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,679 another pair of binoculars these are the 454 00:18:51,679 --> 00:18:55,280 binoculars that I stole from the Marine 455 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,640 Corps those are the original ones I was 456 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,840 assigned to and then those are the ones 457 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,400 I reported as being 458 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,919 broken for the next couple of months we 459 00:19:03,919 --> 00:19:06,280 had two sets of binocular they also 460 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,720 brought us in big set of binoculars from 461 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,360 a Navy ship I used to look at the hill 462 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:13,919 500 met away from us it was unbelievable 463 00:19:13,919 --> 00:19:15,600 to look through that and see the NVA 464 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,960 over there digging and throwing dirt 465 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,760 around and bringing stuff up on top of 466 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,200 that Ridge 467 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:24,080 line 468 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,880 keson in March The Siege by the enemy is 469 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,240 still underway but now the end is in 470 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,799 sight 2 and a half months of shelling 471 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:36,480 day and night no hot Chow mud and grime 472 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,360 Red Dust but now Marines are moving out 473 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:41,760 into the hills looking for the 474 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,320 enemy on the 12th of April they told us 475 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,400 we were packing up that we were leaving 476 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,280 by helicopter and we were going to go to 477 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,880 881 South and no one knew really what we 478 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,159 were going to do and I remember getting 479 00:19:54,159 --> 00:19:56,400 off the helicopter turning in the trench 480 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,039 line coming around the corner and there 481 00:19:59,039 --> 00:20:02,000 was what was human flesh all over the 482 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,559 sidewalls of the trench line it was it 483 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:06,000 was scary and then we were told we were 484 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,080 going to attack on Easter Sunday 881 485 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,159 North when the sun came up they were 486 00:20:12,159 --> 00:20:14,960 already running air 487 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:21,640 strikes they're firing artillery in in 488 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,360 grid squares they're just moving a whole 489 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:25,039 grid Square ahead of us I would say Okay 490 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:27,039 shift the box and they would shift the 491 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:29,880 guns to another 500 M 492 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,280 ahead and they were firing directly over 493 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,039 our heads as we moved up onto the top as 494 00:20:35,039 --> 00:20:38,679 the NBA would really dug in up 495 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,600 there and all the artillery strikes and 496 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,159 the air strikes decimated them we killed 497 00:20:44,159 --> 00:20:45,720 a bunch of people up there but most of 498 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,120 them had fled off their Hill to the 499 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:59,320 north we hunker down on 881 North you 500 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,039 know broken trees and the gunpowder 501 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:05,480 smell everywhere blood everywhere and we 502 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,000 we waited all three companies just 503 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,400 waited what are we going to do now and 504 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,960 then the word came you're going back to 505 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,760 881 South so we attack it we take it and 506 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,320 a couple hours later they say Okay pack 507 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,840 up you're going 508 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,039 back okay what do we even go here 509 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,039 for the next morning on the fth 510 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:31,480 helicopters are flying into 881 South 511 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,559 one after the other they're picking up 512 00:21:33,559 --> 00:21:35,919 everybody in 326 up there and they're 513 00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:37,960 flying back to the combat base cuz we're 514 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,480 getting out we're going to leave quesan 515 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,520 in a 516 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,039 day I had befriended a lieutenant 517 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:47,880 Benjamin Steve forom he went to Baylor 518 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,919 so I talk Notre Dame football he talked 519 00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:52,520 Texas football we talked about books we 520 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,679 talked about girls he was really a good 521 00:21:54,679 --> 00:21:57,120 guy he'd come by sit and have supper 522 00:21:57,120 --> 00:22:00,640 with us he really was a genuinely good 523 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,120 officer we're in the dirt next to one 524 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:05,159 another as the helicopters are coming in 525 00:22:05,159 --> 00:22:07,000 and they're taking out first platoon 526 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,440 second platoon then the CP group and 527 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,960 he's going to be on the last helicopter 528 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,720 while we were laying next to one another 529 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,360 in the dirt two rounds hit some distance 530 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:21,120 away I said I hope they're not adjusting 531 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,720 those and he said if they're half as 532 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,520 good as you they won't hit 533 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,600 my helicopters Landing in the LZ 534 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,440 they're 46s and as I start to get up he 535 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,520 squeezes my hand and he says I'll see 536 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,880 you at the 537 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,600 Bas 5 minutes go by and the helicopter 538 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,240 lands the ramp goes down and the Marines 539 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,240 are carrying four people five people 540 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,240 Lieutenant foran was one His Radio 541 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,400 operator was another those rounds had 542 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,480 been adjusted and they landed right 543 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,480 behind the helicopter it was 544 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,960 awful 545 00:23:08,159 --> 00:23:09,760 I hadn't shaved in a month I had a 546 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,640 mustache all the time some guys had 547 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,360 beards I hadn't had a haircut in 4 548 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,760 months we check in and the first 549 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,360 sergeant looks at us and he said what 550 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:22,240 are you doing here you don't even look 551 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,840 like Marines go get a haircut shave 552 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,760 Captain sne came over he said we're 553 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,120 getting a real fo in the morning that's 554 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,960 how we put it we're getting a real fo 555 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,640 like I wasn't the 556 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,799 fo okay and I said am I going to stay 557 00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:40,600 and be the Scout and he said no you're 558 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,919 getting out of the 559 00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:45,640 field I'm going home I'm going home in 560 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,919 the morning the guy came off the 561 00:23:47,919 --> 00:23:50,320 helicopter I handed him the binoculars 562 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,080 and the maps I had we flew out on a 563 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,960 continental jet again and this time it 564 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,480 didn't stop in the middle of the Pacific 565 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,480 cuz it could fly all the way to El 566 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,600 and then we landed and we came down the 567 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,679 ramp and there were kids younger I say 568 00:24:04,679 --> 00:24:06,520 kids younger Marines sitting under those 569 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,240 palm trees at the picnic 570 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,039 tables so that was me a year ago I'm so 571 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:13,640 thankful I'm 572 00:24:14,090 --> 00:24:17,650 [Music] 573 00:24:19,850 --> 00:24:23,310 [Music] 574 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,399 here when I got home my mother opened 575 00:24:26,399 --> 00:24:28,880 the door took a step backward and almost 576 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,679 fainted on top of the TV console were 577 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:34,799 two little 4in square televisions I 578 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:37,120 haven't been home 5 minutes and I said 579 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:38,320 what's with the 580 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,480 TVs she said it's your father every 581 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,919 night at 6:30 he watches the news ABC 582 00:24:44,919 --> 00:24:49,120 NBC and CBS without fail he watched it 583 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:51,120 every 584 00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:56,440 day he came in at 5:00 5:30 and I stood 585 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,520 up he said said how long have you been 586 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,159 home I said I got in this morning God 587 00:25:03,159 --> 00:25:05,720 damn it you didn't call me you didn't 588 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,039 come see 589 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:11,279 me I was like I could never please him 590 00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:13,799 you know I flunked out of his college 591 00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:15,760 and now I didn't go see him and in 592 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,840 retrospect I've got kids of my own it 593 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,770 was a bad way to treat my 594 00:25:20,770 --> 00:25:22,640 [Music] 595 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,799 father I can think of three specific 596 00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:29,679 moments when I should have died 597 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,200 if the round had been 12 in to the right 598 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,200 or to the 599 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,640 left mortar shell landed literally 12 in 600 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,840 away from the hole I was in b boom b 601 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,520 boom b boom and then boom one hit right 602 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,279 on our stove right in front of it I mean 603 00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:46,360 I could have died you know in my first I 604 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:47,960 would have been my first real month in 605 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,600 Vietnam so I would say 606 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,149 [Music] 607 00:25:56,679 --> 00:26:00,200 lucky in my downtime in The Siege at any 608 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,159 other time in Vietnam I wrote I have an 609 00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:04,760 ability to communicate and I wrote a lot 610 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,880 of letters and I people sent me tons of 611 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,399 letters I had people writing letters all 612 00:26:08,399 --> 00:26:11,039 the time and I start this letter my 613 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:12,480 mother 614 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,200 I don't know here's a drawing of 615 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,279 our bunker we slept on cardboard for a 616 00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:20,600 long time but eventually we got two CS 617 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,640 that's the 618 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,360 bunker Joe dhy was my best friend from 619 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:26,360 high school known each other since 8th 620 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:28,799 grade still friends today he saved every 621 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:30,880 letter that I wrote and there's at least 622 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,720 100 125 letters The Siege had been 623 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,320 underway for 10 days the Ted offensive 624 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,440 has just started and I really thought I 625 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,880 was going to get killed up there and I 626 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,960 wrote this letter to him and it was a 627 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,039 farewell letter that I wrote to my 628 00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:46,520 parents and my brothers and sister I 629 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,840 said to Joe when I get killed I want you 630 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,320 to bring this to their house at some 631 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,840 point I felt I needed to say goodbye to 632 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,320 them cuz I didn't leave on great terms 633 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,559 I wrote it put it in the envelope and I 634 00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:02,240 put a note on the outside I said Joe I 635 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,039 want you to bring this to their 636 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:07,440 house so this is the thin assembly this 637 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,440 is what's left of an 82 mortar and so 638 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,919 when it goes up turns and comes down 639 00:27:12,919 --> 00:27:16,360 when it hits there and it blows up all 640 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:19,000 the shma goes in every direction and 641 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,760 some of it goes 642 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,520 up I don't know if I can do this or it 643 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,679 works for you you want to turn the 644 00:27:24,679 --> 00:27:26,200 lights off or that would can you see 645 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,799 that every big hole or every big tear 646 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:30,919 that you see in that towel means you're 647 00:27:30,919 --> 00:27:34,000 dead and every little piece means 648 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,640 surgery at some point or removal of 649 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,600 shrapnel I think shrapnel is the 650 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,720 greatest cause of injury and death to 651 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,360 soldiers on 652 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,440 battlefields you think about that day 653 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,360 huh when you look at that tow I do how 654 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:48,919 close it could have been right 655 00:27:48,919 --> 00:27:51,080 away might have been one of the new guys 656 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,480 that got hit kill the first 30 657 00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,440 days 658 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,799 it is pretty humbling to see it and 659 00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:04,799 understand that how close I 660 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:09,840 came I didn't want to go back to Vietnam 661 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,279 and to quesan stand there like I did in 662 00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:16,440 in September of ' 67 and look up and say 663 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,679 oh there's 861 I didn't want that 664 00:28:18,679 --> 00:28:20,480 experience if I couldn't go on the hill 665 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,360 I never would have gone and when I knew 666 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:24,559 I was going to go I grabbed a whole fist 667 00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:27,880 full of bless palm and I wrote 28 names 668 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,200 and the day they died and my plan was to 669 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,180 read them up there when we were all up 670 00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:36,599 [Music] 671 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,600 there 33 years you've been 672 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,360 whing here the here's Don Tre right here 673 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,880 950 so if you kind of put the map just 674 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,120 like that right there's 950 and 10 right 675 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,679 1015 to the right I us like 676 00:28:51,679 --> 00:28:52,680 this 677 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,399 [Music] 678 00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:59,399 this 679 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,599 [Music] 680 00:29:02,679 --> 00:29:04,840 down through 681 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,919 there looking for 682 00:29:06,919 --> 00:29:10,600 you you looking for me I've been waiting 683 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,159 32 years for this day I wanted to go at 684 00:29:13,159 --> 00:29:15,919 h61 stand on that Hill cuz I wanted to 685 00:29:15,919 --> 00:29:18,480 pay tribute to the friends and Marines 686 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,559 who died up there cuz you never get a 687 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,080 chance to say goodby when they get 688 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,240 killed you don't have time you have job 689 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,799 to do and you you have to keep on going 690 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:28,679 we hired a van we had a driver went up 691 00:29:28,679 --> 00:29:30,919 to quesan we walked around the combat 692 00:29:30,919 --> 00:29:34,430 base a night later we packed 693 00:29:34,430 --> 00:29:37,320 [Music] 694 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,240 up we made our way up it was wet and 695 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,640 kind of rainy and we got to a point 696 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,000 where we got onto a small Ridge line it 697 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,519 was clearly it's clearing we weren't 698 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:49,440 uphill we were flat and everybody 699 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,720 stopped to rest and all of a sudden I 700 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,760 realized there were holes in the ground 701 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,039 we're in a Marine Corps position here 702 00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:58,200 fellas 703 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,799 really American Camp right here 704 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,080 plastic bags from the sear rats 33 years 705 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,799 ago probably a hill fights spring 67 706 00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:11,120 right here baby look at 707 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,440 this still underneath it's still good 708 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,480 you can read the 709 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,640 writing there have been foxholes 710 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,279 probably dug during the hill fights 711 00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:21,480 start digging down in them and you found 712 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,000 C ration spoons it was incredible to 713 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,600 think we were standing right here are 714 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,080 these uh is I found my bunker no they're 715 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:31,600 not dead I know right I'm standing my 716 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,000 pack is where my bunker was no this is 717 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,320 not they're 718 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,960 live don't kick 719 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,679 him I can't believe I'm 720 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,720 here I really can't 721 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,120 believe the roof of my 722 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,799 bunker 32 years 723 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:58,559 ago it seemed so godamn small so 724 00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:01,279 contained like that it's your memory and 725 00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:03,480 your imagination that makes it bigger 726 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,960 than it really was I mean it doesn't 727 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,080 diminish what happened up there and I I 728 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,519 thought well how could all this 729 00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:12,639 happen in a in an area like this size 730 00:31:12,639 --> 00:31:15,000 but it 731 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,880 did we made 732 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,720 it the hills are the same I swear to God 733 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,360 they're the same well there's that tree 734 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,279 line I was trying to hit you know that 735 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:24,960 night right and then we p a big and then 736 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,039 there's the ridge line right over there 737 00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:27,840 that up to the forest the forest has 738 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,679 grown back now that's where the guy got 739 00:31:29,679 --> 00:31:31,639 shot in the eye and killed there from 740 00:31:31,639 --> 00:31:33,159 that platoon that went out there's the 741 00:31:33,159 --> 00:31:34,440 ridg line right over there and look at 742 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,080 all the bombs that little 50 caliber 743 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,600 position was right in here somewhere 744 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,200 that we when you see my bunker over here 745 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,159 you'll recognize it you will recognize 746 00:31:43,159 --> 00:31:46,440 that all I can hear are birds chirping 747 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,279 and there's no more rain it stopped 748 00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:50,919 raining it was just Mist blowing in over 749 00:31:50,919 --> 00:31:52,880 the ridge line you can this dip down and 750 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,760 come back out it was really eerie I said 751 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,639 an Our Father and a hill Mar out loud 752 00:31:58,639 --> 00:32:00,919 and then I randomly pulled the names out 753 00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:03,960 of the bag I read their name the day 754 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,880 they died I said rest in peace and then 755 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,360 I let it go into the 756 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,559 wind and then I walk back down the hill 757 00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:14,519 now I'm on the LZ looking up towards the 758 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:16,480 top when I looked 759 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,840 up and I saw 8 10 figures standing in 760 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,880 the Mist up there some had ponchos on 761 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,960 some had their helmets on they weren't 762 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,440 in a formation they were just standing 763 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,880 in kind of a loose group the wind was 764 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,720 moving their clothing and the ponchos 765 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,039 they weren't saying anything they just 766 00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,440 were looking and I I really blinked and 767 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,919 looked away thinking this is not 768 00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:40,320 possible maybe I'm just imagining this 769 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,559 and I looked again and they were still 770 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,679 standing there so I saluted one time I'm 771 00:32:45,679 --> 00:32:47,720 not much for formalities but I saluted 772 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,600 one time turned and walked back off the 773 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,880 hill and never look back over the LZ and 774 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,440 all the way down we're coming a little 775 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,440 further back towards 86 61 and there was 776 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,760 a foxhole there um obviously been 777 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,960 weathered and then I fished around at 778 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,720 the bottom and there was a locket there 779 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,799 I kind of opened it up a little bit 780 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:11,919 there was a picture inside of a little 781 00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:13,480 girl and a 782 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,559 woman and I thought God damn that's when 783 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,399 I knew the Foxhole was a Vietnamese 784 00:33:18,399 --> 00:33:20,519 Foxhole this was a North Vietnamese 785 00:33:20,519 --> 00:33:22,399 soldier who died there that is the 786 00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:24,279 tragedy that for every veteran that's 787 00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:27,760 out there there's Family behind and and 788 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,760 as heartbroken is that people feel about 789 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,559 someone dying next to them back home 790 00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:36,200 people are are feeling even worse you 791 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,440 know uh it's an unforgiving business we 792 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440 keep doing it though I 793 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,960 guess and if you could use one word to 794 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,840 describe that whole experience what 795 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,600 would it 796 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,880 be 797 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,519 grateful for having the life that I've 798 00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:57,600 lived since then I've lived a very 799 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,159 Charmed and lucky life you know I have 800 00:34:00,159 --> 00:34:02,639 four kids we got 11 801 00:34:02,639 --> 00:34:06,120 grandkids um I I feel really really 802 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,720 lucky my dad smoked from the time he was 803 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:12,320 14 Chesterfield Kings never quit they 804 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,760 took out a long he kept smoking so in 805 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,200 the process of dying of lung cancer and 806 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,560 empyema he was in the hospital and we 807 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,200 talked about 808 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,800 Vietnam and he said the reason I was so 809 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,960 angry and disappointed was that as FBI 810 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,919 agents we knew the way the war was being 811 00:34:30,919 --> 00:34:33,679 run there was no way they could win it 812 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,119 it's just that's what he thought that's 813 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:36,639 what the FBI thought the way it was 814 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,079 being run couldn't win it and he said it 815 00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:41,919 tore me up inside and made me so angry 816 00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:44,879 but also afraid that my oldest son would 817 00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:47,159 voluntarily put himself in a place of 818 00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:49,639 harm like that he said that's why I said 819 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,800 all the things and didn't say anything 820 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,679 in all those months years back you know 821 00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:58,400 and I said dad I I understand you know I 822 00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,760 understand that was the only time we 823 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,079 ever talked about it but he he he knew 824 00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:04,160 they 825 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,040 knew war is a bad business and whether 826 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,240 you're 827 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:10,880 wounded 828 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,440 physically everybody gets 829 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,680 wounded emotionally psychologically you 830 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,440 can't escape that it may end the war 831 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,160 they're in the conflict they're in may 832 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,200 end but the battle Inside the Mind and 833 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,800 the Brain goes on 834 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,480 forever 835 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,560 90% of my life is in my rearview mirror 836 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,800 so only 10% left and I want to make the 837 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,760 best out of my 838 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,879 [Music] 839 00:35:41,060 --> 00:35:44,230 [Music] 840 00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:52,700 [Music] 841 00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:53,220 [Applause] 842 00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:54,220 [Music] 843 00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:55,800 [Applause] 844 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,800 10% 845 00:35:59,590 --> 00:36:06,900 [Music] 846 00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:10,130 [Applause] 847 00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:19,140 [Music] 848 00:36:19,140 --> 00:36:19,660 [Applause] 849 00:36:19,660 --> 00:36:20,660 [Music] 850 00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:23,780 [Applause] 851 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:28,720 in 852 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,520 I'm58743

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