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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:41,760 During June and July at Olympic Studios and later in the fall at Star Groves, 2 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:50,720 they were working on what will become songs for exile. Now, Shine a Light was cooked up 3 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:58,320 in 1968 and 69 with the title Get a Line on You, but also picked up here 4 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:08,320 and then in the fall of 70 also in the Sticky Sessions. Getting a lift from Billy Preston. 5 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:12,480 Outstanding versions. 6 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:21,440 Now, this sweet, sweet version of Sweet Virginia, another one originating earlier, 7 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:30,000 a different Mick vocal version with other surprises. Bobb's fine sack solo and Ian with 8 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:39,920 the boogie woogie. Taylor sings back up here, but it's very hard to pick him out. There was 9 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:48,480 a version of All Down the Line. It's thought to be at Olympic, but I'm not sure which take it is. 10 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:56,560 I'm seeing that the 2010 Deluxe version has the backing track with new Mick vocals on it. That 11 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:05,920 might be it. Mick is the one that would present to the band to play Shake Your Hips from Slim Harpo. 12 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:13,120 Carrying on later at Star Groves in the fall, stop breaking down. With Robert Johnson's version 13 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:22,400 from 1937, we can say the stones brought justice here. And in Martin Elliott's book, he mentions 14 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:30,000 about Mick is playing some rhythm on this. And it was later that it was Andy John's who got Mick to 15 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:38,880 add their harmonica, those blasts in his echoing hoots later on. And they're not on this version, 16 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:46,640 of course. Good time Woman, also known as Tumbling Dice later on, was worked on during 17 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:55,920 the 1970 session at Olympic and Star Groves. the start of this masterpiece, that chugging 18 00:02:55,920 --> 00:03:05,360 rhythm in another protagonist attracted to a lady. She's just carefree and living on fun and 19 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:17,600 sex. A red light woman who likes to party. This seems to be a common theme with them. 20 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:35,440 You're going to feel all right. I said baby. 21 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:42,640 The song Walk with Me Wendy is not exile related. It was thought to be recorded in the summer, 22 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:50,400 possibly the fall. It didn't go over to APCO, so there is somewhat thought to be jammed later in 23 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:59,440 70 possibly. The Stones own this one. This song was released on that fully finished outtakes, 24 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:07,120 the one that was leaked, a song that probably deep fans will appreciate. Only a Mickg guided 25 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:15,920 vocal tune with nonsensible rambling. No reference to Wendy in these lyrics. We hear 26 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:23,360 how nicely how they develop a tune. You can hear pieces of several songs in here like I'm 27 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:30,800 Going Down or Traveling Man. Now, the piano is a main component and said not to be Nikki, 28 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:39,600 but maybe Ian or Bobby Whitlock. Midway is a Keith lead reminisce to give me shelter 29 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:54,560 slightly and like at some points how Charlie plays that high hat. 30 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:10,240 This next March to May 1970 tune made it on Exile Deluxe 31 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:26,480 in 2010 and heard plenty dancing in the light. a loving cup feel. 32 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:36,480 Here's Jeremy Barz giving us a sample of that 2010 version. The top Keith playing open G, 33 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:44,320 but that's the version from 1970. On the bottom is Keith's open G. And this is what he added an 34 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:53,280 overdub in 2010 version. Thanks to Don was as a champion in taking this one on the song for 35 00:05:53,280 --> 00:06:01,840 the exile release and the bonus tracks. Don was is a huge fan of the stones and needed 36 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:09,840 to be pinched and he got to work with them since 1993. This version is mix singing with 37 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:31,600 new lyrics as this was originally an instrumental lyrically. Not much of a stones 70s skill lyrics. 38 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:40,640 We'll focus now on the 70s instrumental version they did in 1970. It is on piano and it sounds 39 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:49,280 like Nikki. Jimmy Miller adds percussion, a full sounding jam and another song. You can 40 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:57,600 hear their studio jam developing. You hear Mick hollering and the buildup at the end is divine. 41 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:04,480 When I first heard this, it was the baseline that first stood out. And in Martin Elliott's book, 42 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:11,200 he mentioned how Don wanted to add some bass to it, but when he tried to follow along to 43 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:21,600 Bill's playing, he just couldn't due to Bill's unique pattern and style. And Don is a basist. 44 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:29,280 Leather jacket was a Mick Taylor tune played at Olympic in June. This melodic tune has leads 45 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:36,480 that are pronounced with acoustic and electric guitars. It's a polished piece, but it's kind 46 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:44,160 of repetitive and is screaming for vocals. This song didn't stay in the Stones Rolodex, 47 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:53,040 but it picks up on Mick Taylor's debut album in 1979, which took him approximately 3 years to 48 00:07:53,040 --> 00:08:00,800 pull together. CBS Records, they weren't supportive for Taylor on this promotion. 49 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:24,800 As Taylor put lyrics to it, we can see that there's some real personal side words here. 50 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:33,680 Photographer David Bailey was one of the hippiest in the 60s in swinging London. David would take 51 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:42,160 some photos of Mick at this time. During the sticky sessions, Mick knew he had a task to finish 52 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:51,920 the get your Yaya's cover shot. So, he reached out to David to reshoot it. It was done on June 7th. 53 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:59,680 They shot it at an abandoned runway in North London. It's about 10 minutes from where Charlie 54 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:05,440 actually grew up trying to recreate the album cover for the exhibition. Except you won't have 55 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:12,720 me leaping about. I don't think it was David Bailey who we wor with a lot in those days. I 56 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:22,480 went to this place near where I was used to live which is Henden and it's on a air uh runway plane 57 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:33,440 on my runway and an air drone they bought the donkey along put a drum on it had me dressed 58 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:40,480 up well actually I was in my stage clothes and borrowed Mick's hat in one of them I don't know 59 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,600 if they used all them and David was up a ladder shooting down and then on the floor shooting 60 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:53,520 up there. That's about it. The donkey supposedly belonged to a local farmer and was not so pleasant 61 00:09:53,520 --> 00:10:03,040 or easy to work with. They tried two donkeys. The first one would not move or wear any of the props. 62 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:10,880 Charlie's jumping was done in several takes. He had to hop off a platform a few times until the 63 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:21,520 shot was made. And some people never noticed or they just forgot what was on Charlie's t-shirt. 64 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:34,240 The album cover, the sky, was colorized in postp production to give a twilight color. 65 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:42,560 June 24th, Mick's Ned Kelly film is open at the London Pavilion. Bill and Taylor 66 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:50,400 joins there to see the premiere. Mick and director Tony Richardson are a no show, 67 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:58,880 but Mick's parents did attend. Critics bashed it, and they said the film didn't know whether 68 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:07,920 to be art or entertainment. aimless, dull, but kudos to the cinematographer and a few 69 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:16,400 action scenes. There were some positives. The words. What's the new album called? Sticky 70 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,040 Fingers. Let's talk about some of the cuts on it. Some of the things you particularly like, 71 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:26,000 ones that you felt were interesting to work with. You got a lot of uh new songs on there. 72 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,440 You've got one song that's got a long jazz riff in it. Yeah, that was nice. That was a 73 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,760 Can't you hear me knocking? It's a bit like going home. Do you know what I mean? It was 74 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:49,360 just a sort of unworked out thing we just did at the end cuz we didn't know how to end it. 75 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:02,320 This early take really gives us the idea what led to the final version. 76 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,760 It has such verocity and explains the mood and direction that they 77 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:18,160 were headed. An absolute stunning piece. Mick is laying out and providing guiding vocals. 78 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:29,520 Get the Come on. Come on. Come on. 79 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:38,800 They manufactured this song on the spot. They all felt this groove. Not done in one take like 80 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:46,640 many claim. Mick also plays percussion. Jimmy Miller is playing that percussion instrument 81 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:57,680 called a wirro. There's no need to introduce this song. We should remember Quasi Desid Zoru 82 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:07,200 who insisted on sympathy and you can't always get and now he's here. Also named as Rocky Dejon 83 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:36,560 again. They wanted Rocky on this album and he came in for the second half of this song. 84 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:44,320 Also, Billy Preston on piano. And towards the end, we hear the organ. It's not certain 85 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:54,400 what amp Keith used for this song. Probably a Fender or maybe a Vox. There's also a Echo used, 86 00:13:54,400 --> 00:14:03,920 a Reox. Keith using the black Les Paul custom tuned to OpenG. and Mick Taylor on a Walnut Brown 87 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:15,920 Gibson ES355 for solo. Here you see Taylor using it when playing in a later years with Jack Bruce. 88 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,000 Now, in the deconstructing part of this song, 89 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:39,280 we're going to hear Charlie, Rocky, and also Jimmy. 90 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:02,720 Heat. Heat. 91 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Bill, he carries his part in this song. 92 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:42,560 Yeah, you got sat shoes. 93 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:48,880 Yeah, you got nasty boots. 94 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,600 Y'all got cocaine eyes. 95 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:02,240 Yeah, you got sleep 96 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:16,640 on the window. 97 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:29,840 Mick and Keith backing vocals and Mick Taylor also. Ain't no stranger 98 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:42,240 baby. Ain't no stranger. Help me baby. Ain't no stranger. 99 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:47,760 Now singing in this song key was challenging for Mick. So hence the 100 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:55,120 vocal doubling added to his vocals. They needed to cover up some issues. 101 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:05,440 I'm going to take you down. 102 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:11,760 I got me down. 103 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:22,320 I'm all around your street now. Hear me knock all around your town. 104 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,960 Keith with his magic pulled this riff out of the 105 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:47,600 air. So it goes. The song just evolved as it played. 106 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:07,120 He injects some chord changes to this groove that is tout and unpredictable. 107 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:13,760 And in the beginning, Taylor plays some contrasting rhythm in the first part with 108 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:29,600 that clean sound just in standard tuning. Simple but impressive chord embellishments. 109 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:37,200 And we hear all the transitions playing a melodic story. They flow and they mesh 110 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:46,240 with Rocky's Latin feel. Taylor bends those notes and he plays vibr with ease. 111 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:53,360 We then get Bobby Keys. He says how it was this song that gave him the start of feeling part 112 00:18:53,360 --> 00:19:00,000 of the band. Not part of the first section of the song though, but in the studio as he heard 113 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:09,200 him flowing at the 243 mark. The second part, he picked up the sacks during the instrumental part 114 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:17,280 as he felt something. There was no plan to keep the song going. They thought the song was done. 115 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:24,480 They didn't think the tape was rolling, but it was. It was a feel, just a feeling, spontaneity 116 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:32,240 with Bobby as he picked up that sex and he looked around. He was not told to do it. He just did it. 117 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:40,880 He felt it was an open invitation for anyone. It's what he said. The musical interplay with 118 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:51,040 all these components was a masterclass in spontaneity and sophistication. 119 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:57,200 I'm going to mention something and there's a point to it and you'll understand why. 120 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:04,880 Bob Dylan's live album from 1984 called Real Live is backed up by Mick Taylor 121 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:12,000 as his guitarist. Recorded two days, July 5th, July 7th, and on the 5th, 122 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:21,840 special guest is Carlos Santana on Tombstone Blues. July 8th, not on the album, was Taylor, 123 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:32,240 Carlos, Clapton, Ian Mclagen, and Chrissy Hine. And they all played in Ireland with Bob. 124 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:39,360 Mick Taylor and Carlos Santana both knew of each other's work prior to 70. And eventually 125 00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:47,120 in the 70s, Carlos was hanging out with other British guitarists as he expanded tours in the 126 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:55,520 UK and Europe. And just a note, they both played together more after Dylan. And not 127 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:04,400 to forget December 6th, 1969 at Alimont. It was Santana that opened and played in 128 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:11,920 the daytime. Their set was interrupted with violence. You get now why I mentioned the 129 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:21,760 Taylor Santana details. That Latin field gave Taylor his window of opportunity. 130 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:28,640 Now, there are some that say this song was planned, a jam, and not improvised. 131 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:38,400 I can only say that the ending is unusually tight for an improv ending. So when the song finishes 132 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:48,080 in the studio, they all go into the control room. Bobby, he loved it. He felt so good. Well, 133 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:55,520 maybe I get on this tune anyway. Mick then says something like, "Well, that was fun and a cool 134 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:02,720 jam, but don't think it's going to be added." And Bobby just thought, "Oh god, I'm shut down 135 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:09,440 on this one." So, as they're listening to the take, they're surprised to hear the 136 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:16,560 extended part was recorded. Mick and Keith were going back and forth with it. And by this time, 137 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:23,120 Bobby left already and would not know until later that it was Jimmy Miller that gave his 138 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:32,960 input to get his stamped approval that this take was it. As I read more fan forums, some actually 139 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:42,960 just want the first part of the song and not the extended jam. And there's always that 2% 140 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:09,200 This song's interpretation. So many thoughts on it. A bottom feeder guy and his ex or a lady or a 141 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:18,640 dealer. satin shoes, plastic boots. She's a woman. Mick will sing out many shows. Not saying plastic 142 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:27,680 boots, but Chinese boots. Cocaine eyes, big eyed when she sees coke. The guy's stalking or look to 143 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:35,520 get her attention at her home as he's pretty drawn out. It's him at the door, not a stranger. Hey, 144 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:42,880 wake up. Let me in. Kicking the habit. I need your help. Prowling, growling, howling, and knocking. 145 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:53,200 The song's focus is the riff and jam and less on the lyrics for me, despite how good they are. 146 00:23:53,200 --> 00:24:04,880 Lick's Live Tour 2003 in New York City. Mick plays her harmonica for some of the sack solo. 147 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:27,280 Heat. Heat. 148 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:56,960 When the album was getting prepared for release in 71, the legal team realized that this song 149 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:04,480 and some others were not filed which caused copyright problems. So they had to sit down 150 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:13,040 and listen to the acetate pressings for this song. There was a dilemma and a disagreement and no one 151 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:23,760 in the office could agree on a line of lyrics. The lyric was I've got flatted or flattened feet now. 152 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:30,320 Mick would tell them and insist he didn't sing that and could not remember the line 153 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:47,440 on that cut. So, here's a listen. Amazing how it does sound like that. I've got flattened feet, 154 00:25:47,440 --> 00:26:16,960 isolated vocals, and you hear Yes. I've got a fight in me now. Hey, down downh. 155 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,520 Aha. 156 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:33,200 There you go. Heat. Heat. 157 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:54,080 In 1969, Sticky Fingers was a working title, but that was for an album named Let It Bleed. The 158 00:26:54,080 --> 00:27:00,880 darkness of Let It Bleed songs didn't match the Sticky Fingers title. There were so many loose 159 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:08,640 songs from beggars through the sticky, but a double album was not considered until exile. 160 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:19,120 But then again, there was so much legal turmoil going on that a double album was not considered. 161 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:26,560 Mick crossed paths with Andy Warhol during the Stone 64 US tour. Their tastes, artistry, 162 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:34,560 and personas were compatible, and as time went on, they would share similar social circles. It 163 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:41,520 was the 69 time frame when Mick asked Andy to make a cover for Through the Past Darkly Hits 164 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:49,600 album. Andy delivered his product, but Mick did not care for it, and it just ended there. Andy 165 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:56,160 felt he should have received some payment for his work, at least for trying. Andy was annoyed and 166 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,920 this final product that he proposed was either misplaced or it was lost somewhere. It was never 167 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:09,680 to be found after. Now the time frame supposedly later in ' 69, Mick meets up with Andy again in 168 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:17,360 some nightclub in New York City. It was here they engaged in conversation. Mick explaining the need 169 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:24,560 for another album cover. got to be certain they patched things up from their last experience. And 170 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:31,360 as Andy would say, wouldn't it be fun to put out blue jeans with a zipper on the cover? Real jeans 171 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:41,520 and a real zipper. Andy had an art director and a graphic designer in his factory, Craig Brun. 172 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:48,800 Craig also had his own business company. Craig went into print industry in New York in ' 64. 173 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:56,880 It was him that designed that saying on albums includes the hit single. First one was on an 174 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:05,120 Elvis album. He worked with packaging for Chess&M Mottown and Mercury. He would work with Andy on 175 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:15,440 the Velvet Undergrounds banana adhesive concept. Peel slowly and see see what now the velvet's 176 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:22,560 phallic symbol the banana on the first album was painted by Warhol Braw was recruited from MGM to 177 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:32,080 assist and he added the peel to reveal of the pink banana underneath the peel genius. Who can resist 178 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:40,080 not seeing was underneath the yellow and black banana? This started their relationship. Brun 179 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:49,360 would have several ideas for covers besides the blue jeans and zippers for the Stones. 180 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:55,200 Got to give kudos to a website called The Art of Cover Art by Rachel Kitt. Rachel does 181 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,400 exactly that. She explains and exposes great album covers. And here's Rachel's 182 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:07,200 website and information. Craig Braun that gave her a comment as she had an article 183 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:13,200 about him and then she got to interview him and I got the information in the photo 184 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:18,560 as you see now. When she was interviewing in his apartment, he explained and showed 185 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:25,760 some great insights of the alternate covers that he was concocting. We see here the three 186 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:33,600 panel fold out of the jeans concept he was working on with a life-size image. Actually, 187 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:41,920 this was a good concept as the bottom panel would go between the zipper and the album to protect it. 188 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:51,520 And here we see the heat sensitive cover he was proposing advanced thinking for this time using 189 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:58,320 contained ink crystals. So when a warm hand presses against it the warmth will change the 190 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:05,920 green ink crystals to blue which the bonus is will leave your fingers embossed in it. 191 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:12,800 connected concept of a mood ring for those remembering that. Greg would actually sort 192 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:23,440 of connect the same concept here with his George Harrison album. 193 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:31,360 One other one was a tptic panel of a castle, a chateau in France. And what that is is a three 194 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:38,400 panel art showing a scene outside shot of a castle. You open it and you see the inside of 195 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:47,600 it displaying all the band and equipment in the front hall. Another idea was a public execution 196 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:55,600 of Mick's head cut off and two new ladies in the middle of the desert reaching for his head. 197 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:01,200 Brawn had another idea and that was with Marshall Chess. They had a photographer with a waterproof 198 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:08,640 camera going underwater taking some shots. I'm not sure if the stone's heads that were blown 199 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:15,120 up were in the water or above the water looking into the pool, but looking at later at the prince, 200 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:25,280 Marshall then thought how creepy and dark this was, especially how Brian died. 201 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:33,760 Ron was high one night and sitting at his glass desk. He was using bamboo rolling papers. And as 202 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:39,760 he's sitting there looking at the bamboo rolling papers and looking at the shape of the package, 203 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:47,600 it matched an album cover somewhat. Ronn contacts his illustrator and says to him, "Let's make this 204 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:56,640 part of a Stones album, Bamboo Rolling Stones, and have a big single paper with the stones inside." 205 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:03,200 Great thought, but the jeans and zipper were already in motion at this point. Marshall Chess 206 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:10,080 loved the idea. Now, Braun loved the concept also. And now that you're probably thinking and saying, 207 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:17,120 "Yeah, I've seen this before." Well, he sent this over to Lou Adler this concept and it was 208 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:24,720 part of Chichin Chong's second album do a number with Chichin Chong and that was implemented. So 209 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:31,600 Mick liking that zipper idea and the blue jeans and Andy moving forward on creating a prototype 210 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:38,240 a mockup of jeans and the real zipper and when you undo the zipper you'll see some underwear. As Mick 211 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:45,680 sees more, he starts thinking logistically. The thought starts emerging on how to plan for this 212 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:54,560 and what is the cost. But Atlantic was okay with the cost at that time. Andy asked and got 15,000 213 00:33:54,560 --> 00:34:02,080 for his work so far. Now with Andy and Brawn moving ahead in motion with this idea, photos had 214 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:12,400 to be taken. The photos using a Bigshot Polaroid camera was done by Andy and the models they used, 215 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:20,800 their names were never written down, but it was done at the factory 33 Union Square West. Not 216 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:30,160 only the front side was shot of the models, but the backside and models in underwear. Billy name 217 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:37,680 was Craig Brun's assistant, also known as William Lynwich. Billy is the designer of making Andy's 218 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:45,600 factory all in silver. He was a lighting designer and a photographer. He worked at the factory 64 to 219 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:54,960 1970 and had a brief romance with Andy. Here we see Billy's photos to help with Velvet's album. 220 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:03,440 Now, Billy would take some 35 mm photographs while Andy was taking his Polaroid shots of 221 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:12,560 these models. The factory contingency like Glenn O'Brien, Cory Grant, Tippen, Joe Dellesandro, 222 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:19,840 and some others, but as mentioned, the photos were never assigned a name. Both Andy and Billy shot 223 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:27,520 away together. Billy would hand over his photos to Andy, and we have no idea where these photos are. 224 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:34,800 So, Glenn O'Brien would later say he was paid $100 by Andy for his photo. Glenn was the underwear 225 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:44,320 model, Andy's editor for his new startup magazine, Interview. Corey Tippen was a makeup artist, 226 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:50,080 costume designer, and a performer. It's been declared the front and back cover of Sticky 227 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:57,760 Fingers is him. Now, the models, they were told to arouse themselves prior to taking the picture. Jed 228 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:04,800 Johnson lived with Andy for 12 years, and there was thought it was him on the cover. Here he is 229 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:12,960 with Cory Tippen in 72 that was taken by Andy. Cover is a picture of a guy's just this part here. 230 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:19,120 Andy Warhol designed it. Well, who's crutch it is? It's got to be mix, right? Describe the cover. I 231 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,000 can't even remember it. What is the cover? So, I got the phone call and they said, "Corey, come 232 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,520 over now to the factory." The doors opened. Okay. Andy Warhol is ready for you. You know, he had a 233 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,320 handheld Polaroid around his neck. Obviously, it's an image that anyone could claim. No one 234 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:40,240 really knows whose crotch is depicted in the Andy picture. I always thought it was Joe Doolisandro. 235 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:44,480 There's another guy that talks about it all the time. His name's Cory. and I was the person that 236 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:52,240 led people in and out of the factory. So if I didn't see you, you probably weren't there. 237 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:59,360 The Stones were in this similar territory a few years prior. The end of ' 67 and 1968, 238 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,480 they were planning to launch their own record label. They were going to call it Mother 239 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:11,520 Earth. The intention was an independent label so they can support other artists. 240 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:19,120 an international operation in the Stones Manic Street office. 241 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:24,640 All the Stones has acting producers and will contain its own staff. The 242 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:31,600 distribution would be handled by Deca. Charlie was the one who was designing the logo. It was 243 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:37,200 announced that Maryanne was going to sign as the first act on the Mother Earth label. Now, 244 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,840 this project failed to lift off. Still in its infancy, 245 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:50,080 the idea of a new label was instead substituted by the thought of having an entire self-managing 246 00:37:50,080 --> 00:38:01,280 company. With all that chaos going on, Mother Earth lost focus and energy and priority. 247 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:09,280 Now, back to Craig Brawn. His specialty was in gimmick album packaging which totally benefited 248 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:16,240 record sales. It was not a coincidence that he was chosen for this project. The polaroids he got from 249 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:25,200 Andy, the jeans, were more shadows of gray and not really contrasty of black and white. There's 250 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:32,240 a newer technique known to get these stand out more. That is posterization. This process 251 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:41,760 helps make light and dark tones more vibrant and creating a higher contrast a comic like Brun did 252 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:48,640 not want blue jean blue. He wanted black. The image on the album cover is not a straight off 253 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:55,760 Polaroid photo. Brun used several techniques for the creativity of making this cover. 254 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:05,920 Here we see a poster straightforward but this is 1973 Serpico. Now here's the photo posturized and 255 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:12,640 this is the effect Brawn was looking for more drama and contrast just to show you an example 256 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:19,600 of what he was looking for at that moment. And Bronn also included another technique called 257 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:26,800 mezzotint line conversion. This is called a basketball effect, like a dot matrix to put 258 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:33,520 it simply. The closer the dots are, the darker the area. So, plenty of thought and creativity, 259 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:41,040 especially for 1970, went into his album cover. Pretty ahead of its time. Inside the cover, 260 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:49,920 we see Brun used color and on it is Billy name stamp for Andy. Brawn wanted this to get Andy 261 00:39:49,920 --> 00:40:09,360 his due. And that is what the listener would open up the album and realize, oh, this is Andy's art. 262 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:15,840 Now, time to add the zipper, which was part of the packaging design by Braraw. The working zipper, 263 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:22,160 the real thing. He would go to the New York City garment district, which was nearby, to talk to 264 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:30,720 the VP at Tuloon Zippers. Brawn wanted these for free. So, he tried to sell his pitch and as they 265 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:39,680 would cost 5 cents each, and he needed a million of them. So, that's about $50,000. He told the VP, 266 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:46,640 "You're going to be known all over the world." And the VP would say, "Why?" and Brun would say, 267 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,920 'Well, you're giving me four and a half inch zippers and they're going to be on every one of 268 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:59,280 the Stones's new album. So, the VP says, "We're already known." And Brun comes back and says, 269 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:06,560 "Well, you'll be even known even more bigger." Mr. Brawn, you don't understand our customers. 270 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:14,400 They don't buy vinyl records. It's the garment industry. No, I'm not going for that. So Brun 271 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:21,840 had to search for more zippers and eventually he found them at court zippers and the cost for them 272 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:28,320 were 5 cents less than Talons. Workers who were making the album and putting it together had to 273 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:36,160 glue the zippers by hand. So costs did go up for that. So unbuckle the belt, pull down the zipper, 274 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:42,960 and you got underwear. Originally, they thought of a tongue to be there, and Andy had an idea to 275 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:51,120 place pubic hair instead. There was a myriad of variations of this cover through many countries. 276 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:59,280 Some even had different zipper styles. Rolling Stones records need a quick alternative for Spain, 277 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:08,000 one that would still apply a visual for Sticky. We know Spain had an issue and censored the cover. 278 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:14,800 Spain's General Franco had strict decency laws. They would ban the crotch but keep the fingers 279 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:24,160 coming out of a can of sweet and sticky golden syrup resembling blood. The can called Fowlers's 280 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:33,520 TAL, a British refined sugar company used for baking. and Trael is the syrup. Spain would 281 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:43,360 also censor the song Sister Morphine and have it replaced with a live version of Let It Rock. 282 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:51,360 It was designer John Pashache and photographer Phil Jude. Phil later shooting the Goats Head 283 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:57,520 Soup cover. Well, they created this new image. Some would think the image was more obscene than 284 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:06,080 the crotch shot. The Argentinian album would be graced with a black opaque bag over it created 285 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:14,800 by the record company there and everything was the same inside. In Singapore and Malaysia, the album 286 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:22,880 was not banned, but it was sold under the counter and there was no promo display allowed. South 287 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:31,360 Korea had issues. Also, the Stones tongue logo was debuted on the lower left corner on the back side 288 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:39,520 of the album and on the record label. Also, the inner sleeve would proudly display a 6 and 1/2 in 289 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:47,040 tongue. When I was 14 years old and I learned how to silk screen in my graphic arts class in junior 290 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:59,840 high school, this tongue was my first project to get that logo onto a shirt and I wore it proudly. 291 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:07,360 Marshall Chess was traveling in Amsterdam when the Stones were there for their 70 Europe tour. 292 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:16,480 October 9th, 1970 to be exact. More on this later, but he'd stopped at a Shell Oil Gas station, and 293 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:23,520 he was looking at the logo with nothing written on it, but he knew what company it was just by the 294 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:31,440 visual. He needed a logo that will represent the Stones. No name on it, simple corporate branding. 295 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:39,360 It was Joe Bergman, the Stone's personal assistant and office manager that was pivotal in the Stones 296 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:48,240 chaos time frame. She would push them in a forward direction in 1970 during the Klein chaos. It was 297 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:53,920 Joe that reached out to the Royal College of Art looking for an artist, a recommendation. 298 00:44:53,920 --> 00:45:00,880 She asked for a student that could come up with a tour poster for their upand cominging plan tour. 299 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:07,040 the tour to promote get your yaya out. The time frame of this search was approximately 300 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:15,920 April 70. John Pash in his last year of school and considered the resident poster bloke was 301 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:23,840 recommended. Pash was asked to meet both Mick and Joe at the Maddox Street office to discuss this. 302 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:30,640 a fellow student called um Storm Ferguson who was working with Pink Floyd at the time and he'd asked 303 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:37,040 uh um a chap George Hardy who was in the same class as me to draw up the artwork for Dark 304 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:43,360 Side of the Moon. So I mean I was working on this the Stones poster and he was he was working on 305 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:50,960 um the Dark Side of the Moon image which I think's one of the most iconic pieces of the era as well. 306 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:56,800 commission that I had from the Rolling Stones was when I was in my third year at the college and 307 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:02,640 um the college received a phone call from the Rolling Stones office asking if they could 308 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:10,400 um suggest um a suitable student to work on a tour poster which was going to be the 1970 tour 309 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:19,280 poster for um Europe. and uh they um suggested that I go along and uh have a meeting with 310 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:27,760 uh Jagger Mc Jagger. So it was um which obviously quite quite an experience. Um so I I went along to 311 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:35,200 his offices in Maddock Street and um there was his manager there Joe Bergman and just himself 312 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:42,720 and we generally talked about um design and art and uh we both found we had an interest 313 00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:50,320 in sort of 1930s and 40s uh tour posters. The response when I did the first design 314 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:59,040 um that I took him to McJagger to hopefully okay um was a bit lukewarm actually. He uh he said that 315 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:06,160 uh he thought that um I could do better. Um I think it was possibly to do with the color and 316 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:14,480 composition of the the one before. Um but um I did in the second u finished um poster add 317 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:21,520 um some more interesting elements. I think Concord for one was um suddenly appearing in a sort of um 318 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:30,240 a 1930s4s um uh tour poster if you like. Um but I think what he liked about it was that it was 319 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:34,320 getting away from what had been done before. In other words, it wasn't necessarily a picture of 320 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:40,400 the band on the road. It was to do with touring. And I think that was um that was in line with the 321 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:47,440 basic ideas that we talked about originally. But um thankfully he he really liked the last 322 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:53,600 uh version that I did and uh uh it went on to be printed and uh I think it turned out to be quite a 323 00:47:53,600 --> 00:48:02,560 success for the band and uh it led on to the the logo commission. There's proof here of a letter 324 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:11,760 that Pash got in April 29th, 1970 confirming of the design of the poster for the European tour, 325 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:19,200 but also asking to create a logo or a symbol which may be used on note paper at this time. They had a 326 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:27,200 quick call Mick and Pash and he was asked to meet Mick this time at his Cheney walk home to discuss 327 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:36,320 this logo. So Mick mentions how they need a logo or a symbol to be used on paper like a program or 328 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:44,880 a press book, a branding image. Now this story is well known but needed for this presentation. 329 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:53,680 It was quite a short meeting really, but he he presented me with a a cutting from a 330 00:48:53,680 --> 00:49:00,880 um it was actually something something he found in a local um corner shop. It was um Indian um 331 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:07,600 picture of the Ki goddess. The goddess with with a sort of pointed tongue that came straight down 332 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:14,560 and said, "This is the kind of thing that I'm into. You know, I quite like this." Um and we 333 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:21,120 talked about it and uh he said, "Well, I'll just go away and and do something and come back and 334 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:29,600 we talk some more." So I think it was um almost really during that meeting that I just suddenly 335 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:36,960 thought maybe use of a mouth, you know, I just had uh an idea that that would be something to 336 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:45,520 base some ideas for for and uh I went away and did some uh drawings and um which were very similar to 337 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:52,560 um what we we finished up with, but um just variations really of angles and uh and uh tones 338 00:49:52,560 --> 00:50:00,000 and so on. And uh he really liked it and uh so I I finished um finished one up as artwork and I 339 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,080 think he went to show it to the rest of the band and they said they were very happy with it and 340 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:12,640 uh and uh I got my £50 which uh was what I was paid uh paid for doing it. 341 00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:22,320 A lot of the artwork then uh was produced in black and white and then um on on layers of film. 342 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:28,720 So the different layers would be nominated um a color and when it came to printing them it would 343 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:37,520 then be printed in um red and um black instead of the two layers of black which is on the artwork. 344 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:45,760 And he would claim Mick's mouth was not at all an inspiration, but maybe subconsciously. In 2015, 345 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:52,560 Mick would say he had an Indian calendar on his wall. Hindu was huge in the hippie culture in 346 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:59,680 England. Calendars were all over in grocery stores. I'm not clear at all on timeline and 347 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:04,640 have found no concrete evidence when he finished his draft, but he says it took 348 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:17,040 about two weeks nonstop and it's copywritten in 1970, probably late month, December maybe. 349 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:22,880 Here's one of the crossovers. Both Marshall Chess and Craig Brawn were childhood friends, 350 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,000 and they were close and communicating with each other. 351 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:54,080 Uh, I'm working on the uh the mechanicals, you know, getting the copy, legal copy, publishing, 352 00:51:54,080 --> 00:52:01,280 and all that stuff. And we're putting together the album art. I'm putting together I I I brought the 353 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,320 comps. I told you that that Marshall said we're gonna go with the zipper. So that was it. So we 354 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:11,920 started putting together these mechanicals. They were multi-panled, huge, huge, you know, 355 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:20,000 like 4T by 6 foot. Uh, and um, you know, special sleeve, the whole thing. And I said, Marshall, 356 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:26,880 this is their first release. So, is there a logo? Do they have a logo? And he said, 357 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:32,560 Mick's got some kid that goes to art school over there, some art college or something. He 358 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:37,040 told the kid, "It's not it's not really for the logo for a record company." He told him, 359 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:42,880 "You want something for programs or something, you know?" Yeah. Match pads and stuff. He I said, 360 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:48,960 "Probably because Mick doesn't want to pay more than 10 pounds for the logo probably." So I said, 361 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:54,640 "Uh I said, "So get it for me." He said, "I'm not going to get between him and this kid 362 00:52:54,640 --> 00:53:00,560 because they've met two or three times and this kid is working on it and Mick loves this kid." 363 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:06,880 So I said, "Can you send me is there a sketch or anything? Do you have?" He said, "Yeah, 364 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:12,720 they made they gave me this black and white sketch, but it's not the logo, but it's the 365 00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:19,200 idea just the idea that it's a tongue and lips. That's that's it." So I said, "Can you send me 366 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:31,040 that?" So he sends it to me on a thermofax machine. It was already illegible before he 367 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:37,520 So I called my studio guy and I said, "Come down." I said, "This thing that you see, this little 368 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:44,560 smudge here, this silhouette, I want you to blow it up 12 in. We're going to try and decipher this. 369 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:51,360 It's a tongue and lips thing and we're gonna try and create one because I was in the mouth of the 370 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:58,400 gun on this thing in terms of getting started with the production and all the spotlights were on this 371 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:06,400 first release for the Stones and Ahmed everybody the whole industry was on it. It was just lit up 372 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:15,360 like a Christmas tree. So now this image from John triggered Brawn. He's seen this before. He knew 373 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:24,240 the illustrator named Allan Aldridge. Allan who worked on a Beatles illustrated song book in 1969. 374 00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:30,480 Uh there was an airbrush illustrator from England named Alan Aldrich and he did a book called The 375 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:37,600 Beatles Illustrated Lyrics. Oh wow. And that came out about a year and a half before this project. 376 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:43,920 And I remember that there was a song called Day Tripper that was illustrated by him. Oh wow. And 377 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:52,160 I used that for the inspiration really. Oh wow. You know being being having no design background, 378 00:54:52,160 --> 00:55:00,160 I had to trust, you know, my my taste. Yeah. And my perception. So here's what that day tripper 379 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:12,880 looks like. Oh wow. That came out that came out maybe a year and a half before the album. So I, 380 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:19,760 you know, I I gave my guys that. I said, "Listen, let this help you. Highlights on the tongue and 381 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:25,680 the highlights on the lips and everything." Brun remembered that on the page for Day Tripper, 382 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:32,880 there was a picture of a girl licking a ice pop with lips and teeth and a tongue. Aldridge did 383 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:40,560 not counter anything about this. The book was well known at that time. Allan worked on rock and roll 384 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:49,600 circus. Very interesting timing here. Aldridge was known to use Hindu art in his work. So, 385 00:55:49,600 --> 00:56:01,520 did he use Cali in his vision of the Beatles Day Tripper Girl? There's so many unknowns. 386 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:14,800 So Brawn gets his illustrator down to work on this logo project. Ronn would get the illustrators 387 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:24,720 Walter VZ and Tony Demicelli. So I said uh just let's let's let's see what we can do. So they they 388 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:31,600 started bringing sketches down to me. They had two I had two illustrators doing working in tandem on 389 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:38,320 the thing and I would say no no let's let's let's make the throat deeper and and put this little 390 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:48,560 notch in the center of the tongue and so we went to about six or seven and I said we got it. Ah so 391 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:56,160 I said so I said put it on into the mechanical as though it's done. It's finished mechanical. 392 00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:02,880 Wow. I'm send it to London and we're going to get the Stones and Marshall to okay it. So I call in 393 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:10,480 this account guy that I had, Mark Finel. I said I said, "Mark, you're on a mission. It's got to 394 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:18,080 be a mission possible. The most important thing is that you don't speak." Brun told a representative 395 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:25,280 that if they say anything about the logo, just tell them I don't know. Brun just told me to 396 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:32,160 bring this to you. Don't even compliment this logo. Just let them respond and review it. And 397 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:39,440 as soon as they say it's okay, have them initial it and get back on that [ __ ] plane. Brawn would 398 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:46,720 have anxiety thinking of mixed response and not approving it and cancelling the whole project. So 399 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:53,120 the meeting happened. The rep called Brawn right after and said, "I'm coming back. It's okay. 400 00:57:54,560 --> 00:58:00,320 Now, Brun mentions himself that he got paid $300,000, 401 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:10,080 but Bronn had to pay all of his team. It was his company called Sound Packaging Corporation. 402 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:17,600 So, did Pash create the first image? Bronn enhanced it and gave it back to Pash, 403 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:24,160 who created his image again. And when did Pash add his colors of red and black? I can't 404 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:30,320 be certain. It just goes back and forth in my head. When my production guy says, 405 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:37,120 "What what do we do about the UK?" And because I said, "I don't want to light this thing up." 406 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:46,480 Right. So call the production guy at WEIA and tell him this kid is working on a logo that Mick wants 407 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:52,960 and they don't use inner sleeves there. They their their jackets are sleeves. No, that's right. They 408 00:58:52,960 --> 00:59:00,320 call an album jacket a sleeve. So I said, "Tell them the to to do an insert, you know, with the 409 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:06,160 tune lineup and the credits on one side and the logo on the other." And no, the logo and the tune 410 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:14,000 lineup on one side and the other side. Use the photograph, this photograph that I put on it. Ah, 411 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:20,640 so on the other side of the insert. So here's the logo that I that I did. Yeah, it's beautiful. I 412 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:26,720 would say I did in collaboration with my people. Yeah, that's the logo. So here's the stroke of 413 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:37,760 unfair irony to John Pash. Pash would get 50 for his original logo. And 200 pounds later, 414 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:46,320 we now come to the third artist, graphic designer that was involved. Ernie Sephilu claims ownership 415 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:54,720 to the original design early February 71. Sephilu graduated art school in ' 69 and he went to New 416 00:59:54,720 --> 01:00:01,040 York City to work for Madison Avenue. He worked for a small agency and he worked with their top 417 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:07,920 client, International Paper Company. And he was on a small project called Dolls Alive. 418 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:15,600 International Paper Company had a huge 500 salesperson meeting at the Roosevelt Hotel in 419 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:22,240 New York City. Sephilu's company was responsible to create the theme for this meeting along with 420 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:30,560 the entertainment for all. They put together a rockets show type with singers and dancers. They 421 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:40,080 would write 10 original songs with the lyrics about paper. Oh, I'm just wild about paper. I'm 422 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:48,080 like a child about paper. They would create an album for this event and Ernie was the one to 423 01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:55,920 create the label design used on this album. They would press 500 records and hand this out to the 424 01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:02,800 International Paper Company and the salespeople. Now, this concept won some awards for Ernie. 425 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:11,040 Now with this on his resume, he moves on to a bigger one, Norma Levit. Deca was their account. 426 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:17,920 Ernie worked on the Jesus Christ Superstar album. After this, he went to sign up with another 427 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:24,640 agency. He had to show him his credentials. And after showing Jesus Christ Superstar, 428 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:31,840 he then said, "Oh yeah, I do have this project also, Dolls Alive." uh is the first usage that I 429 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:38,800 did of the tongue of the uh of the lips. And when I was in this in this meeting showing my work, 430 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,480 the guy that owned the agency was he just sort of kept looking at this and we're I had all this 431 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:47,200 work spread out. He kept looking at this and he said, "You know, I right now I'm doing a 432 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:53,200 uh I got an assignment to do the Rolling Stones logo and and we're sort of we've been trying. We 433 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,440 haven't come up with anything." He said, "I really like these lips," he said. and he took a piece 434 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:03,200 of paper off his desk and luckily I was the paper got stuck in with a bunch of other stuff and and I 435 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,440 kept it. But he said, you know, this is right off his he took a pen. He said, you know, if you take 436 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:13,040 your lips and you draw a tongue on the outside of this, I think I could sell this to Marshall Chess, 437 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:19,600 who's the manager of the Rolling Stones. At this time, Brun's creative director got seriously ill. 438 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:26,480 And it was really serendipitous for Ernie with this timing. and said, "If you could go upstairs 439 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:33,520 and draw me one with the tongue outside and the lips like that, I think I could sell this as it." 440 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:39,360 Yeah. As the um as a logo for the stones. So, I went upstairs and I sort of took what he did. I 441 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:45,920 took what I had done a year earlier and I created I did a rough sketch of this again, which I didn't 442 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,920 get a chance to do, but it was tighter than this. And I went in and showed it to him. He said, 443 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,240 "Okay, great. You know, wait here. I'm going to go. I have a meeting." And Ernie says Braun told 444 01:02:54,240 --> 01:03:01,360 him just to wait here in the office while he goes to Andy's studio nearby. That's where Marshall was 445 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:08,800 at this time. And he showed Marshall and Marshall loved it and kept the sketch. This time frame was 446 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:14,640 around February 71. Came back a couple hours later and I'm still there. And he goes, "Okay, 447 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:20,480 man. You got a job. You get 200 bucks and uh you just designed the logo for this for the stones." 448 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:25,520 So I was I was really pretty month or two. I just did this logo on everything that you could think 449 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,840 of because what happened was Craig got the the merchandising rights for this logo. He gave the 450 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:36,000 logo to the stones for nothing and he got the exclusive merchandising rights for one year. So 451 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:40,320 we did everything shirts, posters. I mean it did these beautiful foil posters that were diecut in 452 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:48,240 that shape with foil and white and black which was a more stylized version of what I had done. But I 453 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:55,040 actually honestly I like what he did better than what I did because I think that he gave it mine is 454 01:03:55,040 --> 01:04:02,560 very stiff. Mine is very stiff and kind of stayed and kind of but original original but kind of 455 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:08,880 stayed and it doesn't have any the stones are very animated. You know MC Jagger is a very animated 456 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:14,160 guy. If you had to describe him in one word it would be I wanted to do it straight cuz that's 457 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:18,720 what you do when everything's symmetrical. But I knew enough to throw it off so that it would catch 458 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:25,200 your eye. But what John Bashet did so brilliantly was take it and make it animated. This is more 459 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:32,320 like this has more movement and more attitude in my opinion. And what year? This was done uh this 460 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:40,000 was mine was done at the uh in February of 71 and his was done I think a few months later. But what 461 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:47,440 happened was I there's so many headscratching here as far as timing, who's saying what, who did what, 462 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:54,960 as they all have similarities in visual and color. Now Ernie says it was his design that was given to 463 01:04:54,960 --> 01:05:03,840 Pash. Then Pash did his final version. That's what he says. Ernie has many YouTube videos 464 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:10,880 on this topic with interviews and he's very vocal about it. So, we got John Pash a logo 465 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:19,280 considered the original and it's used for 71 for the VIP passes at the Marquee 71 show and the UK 466 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:27,200 and international sleeve design of sticky fingers. Craig Brawn and his team did the packaging design, 467 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:34,640 refined the tongue and used it on the US sleeve design. Ernie Sephilu, part of Brun's company, 468 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:42,400 he added a version of this tongue logo. It was used for merchandising like keychains, shirts and 469 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:52,880 also badges and pins. And it was used under bronze rock creations rock creation company. This company 470 01:05:52,880 --> 01:06:02,560 was bronze. It was used for merchandise licensing. That logo that you saw on my sleeve. Yeah. Well, 471 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:08,720 it was it was early it was it was in early April and this and the UK version came out in May. Yeah. 472 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:18,640 But whoever was in charge of like choosing a default logo between the two of them, they 473 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:25,120 all wanted this logo that I did, right? They all wanted it and they used it for everything for the 474 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:31,280 road, for the tours, for the advertising, all the merchandising. They sell I don't know $300 million 475 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:40,000 a year in merchandising that logo to use. And guess what? I never got a hapony in England. That 476 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:46,640 means a half a penny. I used to say to people back then, I said, you know, this logo, this could be 477 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:54,800 as big as the Playboy logo someday. Right. Right. The Playboy logo is nothing compared to this logo. 478 01:06:54,800 --> 01:07:02,080 Yeah. Now, I'm not going to go down this rabbit hole, but there is a tongue logo license and is 479 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:11,120 under Mousidor Envy, an Amsterdam based company. It was founded by the Stones to manage their 480 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:19,200 intellectual property, the logo, trademarks, and portrait rights. What they did was they would 481 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:26,320 fight the counterfeits and the fakes and protect the stones. This is interesting. This is from Bill 482 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:35,680 Wyman's website. The 3rd of March, John designed Stone's tongue logo. Brawn did not get paid for 483 01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:41,280 this version of the lips and tongue logo, but was allowed licensing of the logo through Rock 484 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:50,160 Creations for 3 years till 74. That's all the key rings, jewelry, belt buckles, pins, badges, 485 01:07:50,160 --> 01:08:00,320 watches, bags with his licks logo. John sold his copyrights to the Stones for £26,000 in early 486 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:13,680 the8s. He did continue after Sticky, making great contributions to rock and roll and the Stones. 487 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:17,840 Ernie created a company called Pacific Eye and Ear. They became 488 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:22,560 a premier source for album design concepts, imagery, lettering, logo, 489 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:32,160 and packaging from 1972 to 86. Ernie would go on to have a fabulous career. Here you could 490 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:40,640 see just a few of the showings. His archives are worth to check out. He did a great job. 491 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:51,040 And Brun continues, "Greg made album packaging as a dramatic sensory experience. He also 492 01:08:51,040 --> 01:09:07,840 collaborated with plenty of others. Here you see some examples of the early '7s work heated to. 493 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:13,840 So when you compare the three lips and tongue logos, John, you see had a shorter and wider 494 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:23,520 tongue, it's not as defined. It was not the go-to logo, but he said to be the designer of it. Bronn 495 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:30,640 would have the tongue elongated, added black shadowing to the highlights, the throat, added 496 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:37,200 another white highlight on the tongue, and a black outline around the whole image. Given direction 497 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:44,560 from Brun, Sephlu would have his alterations done with a wider mouth and the teeth are more defined. 498 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:50,240 And inside the mouth shows more black and the black line going down the middle of the tongue. 499 01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:59,200 It's thicker, always reminding me of tonsils. And Ernie is also two-dimensional looking, not enough 500 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:07,600 depth. Regarding Sephilo, he's always questioned about his varying accounts of the timeline. Now, 501 01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:15,520 the flow of the creation of the tongue, you would say the Jagger really initiated it, 502 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:23,440 followed by Pache and Brawn. But if you really got to come down to it, this creation is Pache, 503 01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:31,920 Bronn, Sephilu, VZ, the Missile, Aldridge, and Mick. They should be considered contributors to 504 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:39,600 this collaboration. And nobody remembers which Cali image was used for Mick. Brun 505 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:45,360 expanded this Sticky Fingers album from a two to three-dimensional look. Not just for Sticky, 506 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:56,320 but for others. He broke barriers, allowing fans to engage with the product. 507 01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:04,640 In July the 8th and 9th, Mick would work with Dr. John at his studio sessions at Trident. 508 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:10,560 This was for his album, The Sun, The Moon, and Herbs. Mick would sing backing vocals on 509 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:18,880 this track. Where you at, mule? A typical New Orleans blues feel. I strain though and cannot 510 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:26,000 hear Mick. Clapton Car Randall, Graham Bond, Bobby Keys, Jim Price would play on it also. 511 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,320 Did you have a producer on this album or did you do that aspect of yourself? Uh, well, 512 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:36,480 some of the tracks were produced by Jimmy. Some of them we did ourselves. Some of them 513 01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:44,400 urges engineering on. Jimmy did a lot of work on it. Didn't do all the tracks. Did you do this one 514 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:49,840 in the country or did you do the studio? All over the place. Yeah. Mhm. We did it uh we 515 01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:55,280 did it in the country with a mobile unit. We've got some of them uh some of them we do Olympic, 516 01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:02,880 some we do in America, some are quite Where did you work in states? We can say that we um Muscle 517 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:07,840 Shells. We did three tracks in Muscle Shells a long while ago which we were going to bring out 518 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:14,480 as a singer but then we changed our minds which are Brown Sugar Wild Horses and You Got to Move. 519 01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:21,120 We just saved them for this album. What else? It was between July 20th and 29th, the Stones made a 520 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:28,400 formal notification to Deca. They were finished with their relationship and label considered to 521 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:37,280 be a Stones Independence Day, but at a cost. They fulfilled their DECA contractual obligation and 522 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:45,360 client control publishing with APCO songs from 63 to 70. The Stones would find out painfully 523 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:56,720 that Klein's contracts left him with the lasting financial leverage and it was apparent he won out 524 01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:02,560 if it's all right applying yourself to it. You said that for instance uh motion pictures now you 525 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:08,960 found that analysis is much more important than I know about really about movies or acting. I mean, 526 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:14,480 it would be absurd for me to talk at any length about either. Is there such a thing as a natural 527 01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:18,080 actor? A person who is observant enough to Yeah, I should think so. Do you think you're 528 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:23,040 that sort of a person? I don't know. I might be. You're working with a group of young people, 529 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:30,480 aren't you? Yeah. The director, the producer, everyone has kind of a young approach. Is it a 530 01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:37,840 is there a camaraderie that is very helpful here? Disorganization. No, I know them sort of thing. 531 01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:43,040 which I'm not sure whether that's helpful or not because I haven't made enough movies to 532 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:48,960 know whether it's groovy if you know the director personally maybe isn't in some ways cuz I can say 533 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:55,680 ah come on the whole psychedelic thing and the the uh approach to your kind of music is based 534 01:13:55,680 --> 01:14:01,280 upon love and gentleness and understanding is it not true I don't think so because this 535 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:05,840 motion picture and I guess the slash behind it shows some of the violence that is involved here 536 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:13,200 right yeah it's violent I don't think our music is um is very peaceful. We never try to make it 537 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:17,840 peaceful. Only very occasionally when one feels in a peaceful sort of frame of mind, which is 538 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:25,760 very rare. You're frequently in protest against the harsh qualities of life though, aren't you? 539 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:32,880 Just protest against things you see in people and in yourself, you know, that you don't like. You 540 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:40,480 have to get rid of. Are drugs, marijuana, uh, LST so forth necessary to the approach to your 541 01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:47,760 way of life? No, completely unnecessary. Are they? You don't need to take any kind of drugs at all, 542 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:53,760 but I mean, you can do. Have you you've been involved kill yourself if you'd like. You've 543 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:58,720 been involved in in the campaigns for legalization of marijuana, have you? No, never been involved in 544 01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:06,000 any campaign to legalize anything. Are you in favor of it? of of legal legalizing marijuana. 545 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:11,680 I can't see why you should put people in jail for smoking it. But, you know, there's so many 546 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:17,520 hassles and problems, but I think I don't really like laws like you can't do this or that. I mean, 547 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:23,760 you can't drink at 2:00 or smoke marijuana at 6:00 or sell tinned food on Sundays. Are we Are you 548 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:32,800 optimistic about the future? Terribly. And about the future of performance? Terribly. the motion 549 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:40,720 picture performance MC Jagger and we're in London. Thank you very much. Thank you. August 3rd is when 550 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:48,880 Mick's movie performance was released in the US. It was taking a long while to release. The film 551 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:57,680 had both British and American sensors. They were worried about it being X-rated or just to ban it. 552 01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:06,720 They had to edit out some of the scenes. Now, it was still an X rating in the UK in January 553 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:16,800 of 71. They ended up having to edit out scenes of the film and reorder them just to make it work. 554 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:25,520 Since 1888, a British charity was founded to help poor children who were seriously sick 555 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:32,880 or physically handicapped. It was called the Invalid Children's AIDS Association. So why 556 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:40,000 am I mentioning this? Instead of attending the US premiere August 3rd for performance, 557 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:47,440 Mick attended a public event in Chester Square for this charity. He was showing support and he also 558 01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:56,160 presented a raffle prize. Going to take a step back to March 70. It was in March that the Stones 559 01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:05,360 were laying out their 1970 schedule and plans and confirming the steps to move ahead. A tourist plan 560 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:12,000 for Europe and they have internal talks about which cities to go to. They start communicating 561 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:19,920 with tour managers, booking agents to find venues and the logistics. Also, at that time, 562 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:26,720 they were initiating their plans to part ways with Klein and Teka and make sure the legal side 563 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:36,240 of this tour is not tainted by them and to build a new company. In April of 70, they were narrowing 564 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:44,720 down a draft of tentative cities and venues. Also, they discussed ticketing, the regulations, 565 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:53,600 stage setups with the European promoters. In May of 70, the Stones management officially informs 566 01:17:53,600 --> 01:18:03,680 promoters the dates and the logistics. They decide July is a good time to start rehearsals and the 567 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:23,040 set list is a hot topic as they're releasing Get Your Yaya Out on September 4th, 1970. 568 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:30,400 In June, the venues are decided, completed, contract signed. They need a rehearsal time and 569 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:38,720 location. The tour dates are publicly announced. And to let the fans know, the primary work was 570 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:47,440 done locally through press and fan magazines. The stage and sound system is also organized. In July, 571 01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:54,800 promotional items are organized for the tour. final rehearsals, hotel equipment being shipped 572 01:18:54,800 --> 01:19:04,080 are all confirmed and in action. They rehearsed in several locations August 5th to the 29th. One 573 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:11,440 of the locations was about a half hour south of London in Mortyn Surrey. The actual rehearsal 574 01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:19,440 locations not really identified 100%. They also rehearsed in London. That would be in Burmanzi, 575 01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:25,200 London. If you remember in ' 68, they purchased or they leased a warehouse, 576 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:34,080 47 Burmanzi Street. They use this during the Let It Bleed sessions. Here is some footage inside 577 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:41,280 the rehearsal studio with Brian. This is from Catching Fire, the story of Anita Palenberg, 578 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:49,920 late 68. August 27th and 28th in central London. They would also rehearse at the 579 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:59,040 LYSM theater. A huge step is hiring Bobby and Jimmy on horns. They were busy with Derek and 580 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:08,960 the Dominoes, but that fell apart. And the logo was not used for the 70 tour. 581 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:15,760 I feel it's very important to stay in the world and do things. But on the other hand, death and 582 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:22,080 dreams are another thing that if I really that's what I really like to do is just go off there. Off 583 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:29,680 where? Into death. But you can't do that. It's very wrong to take to make your own death. Your 584 01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:38,320 death is is when you get it. But it I think it's a it's a beautiful thing that it's such a relief. 585 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:45,680 I mean, just imagine if there wasn't any death. Now, before we go into the European tour, it's 586 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:53,200 time to bring in the song that's been in the oven for a bit. Sister Morphine, written in 1968 and 587 01:20:53,200 --> 01:21:02,720 69. Maryanne felt her pop songs and lyric writing had left her, and after 67, she lost interest. 588 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:09,840 She did admit she was envious of Mick and Keith and their progress. She'd wanted an attempt to 589 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:17,760 make a new song. Now, with Maryanne at this time, she only tried heroine once. Now, when 590 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:24,800 she wrote the lyrics, she was not a junkie. In her autobiography, she would say the lyrics were in 591 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:32,400 her head. She thought deeply about her feelings, about what it might be like as an addict. 592 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:42,640 Sister Morphe. When I sing it, I actually have a visual in my head and I see it's like 593 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:52,800 um bits from my own sort of movie in my mind. I I hear the ambulance. Whenever I 594 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,680 sing the line about the ambulance, I have this this sort of feeling and this picture 595 01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:04,160 of hearing it and being driven to hospital. But I obviously couldn't hear it because I 596 01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:12,800 was unconscious. Mick Jagger had this song as a tune. He was playing it in the house when 597 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:22,480 we lived together and it had no words. And then one day I just decided I was going to write it. 598 01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:31,200 You see that my pain is story of a man who had a terrible car accident 599 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:43,120 and he's dying. He's in tremendous pain. The lyrics are being presented to a nurse. 600 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:54,080 All the other patient say they've never seen a man with such pain. In her book, she hits the 601 01:22:54,080 --> 01:23:01,120 nail on the head regarding lyric interpretation. She says, "You have to be careful what you write 602 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:09,360 down because it's a gateway and whatever it is you've summed up may come through." It happened 603 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:18,240 with Mick and Keith. Maryanne started her lyric writing in Rome, Italy early 68 with Mick, Keith, 604 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:27,840 and Anita. She was doing her experimentation with opiates and sedatives. Mick was constantly playing 605 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:35,840 a riff there he had in his head for the last 6 months on acoustic. He was not sure lyrically 606 01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:44,000 where it could go. The song was in a minor and those who know about chords know that this chord 607 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:50,640 leads to a sad and dramatic song. The chord structure Mick was playing built a story for 608 01:23:50,640 --> 01:24:00,000 Maryanne in her head. She claims that the 17th century English poet John Milton's lysus story 609 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:06,480 that had inspired her. a poem about the death of his friend that drowned when a ship sank in the 610 01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:15,920 Irish Sea in 1637. Maryanne mentions that she was playing a lot of Velvet Underground continuously 611 01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:25,120 and believe this sunk in on her head for inspiration drug references and its implications. 612 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:32,720 What has always stuck in my mind was why use the word with sister and morphine? The Greek 613 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:40,080 god Morpheus is the god of dreams or sleep. Does it mean that it's the nurse? She the sister that 614 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:47,120 soothes the patient in pain and feeling he's dying. There's something Edgar Allan Poe about 615 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:55,840 it. Dark. It's almost romantic in its sadness. But Sister Morphine, it's not just a gothic drama. It 616 01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:05,680 feels intimate, painful, like someone is quietly asking for an end. As usual, the lyrics can be 617 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:13,040 interpreted in several ways, but chalk it up for Maryanne, hitting this one on the gothic head. One 618 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:20,240 that is a sombering listen to and not played at a festive family holiday dinner for sure. 619 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:28,720 Now let me confirm some fabrication for the line all the clean white sheets stain red. This was 620 01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:37,040 written in July 68 approximately. It does not have to do with Anita Palenberg on their Brazil trip 621 01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:46,400 later in December 68 where they thought Anita was seasick but found out she was pregnant with Marlin 622 01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:54,800 and ending up to have a doctor visit her when they got to Rio. This line was part of the original 623 01:25:54,800 --> 01:26:04,240 song. Maryanne's lyrics just came out smoothly as Mick wrote the music. Mick did encourage Maryanne 624 01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:12,160 to keep making albums during the beggar sessions. Now before some purists insist and say how Mick 625 01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:18,800 says how she wrote a couple of the lines and not sure which ones, it is generally 626 01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:29,360 believed Maryanne expanded on certain lyrics of mix. More to follow on these thoughts though. 627 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:35,120 In July of ' 68, when the Stones were working on the beggar sessions, Mick took the time out 628 01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:45,120 in LA to gather Charlie, Ry Cudter, Jack Nichi to record Sister Morphine at Electra Studios. 629 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:51,440 It was an instrumental version. And note who is on bass and a mistake often made, 630 01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:58,800 Bill would do overdubs for his bass portion for the Stones version. And in Rock and Roll Circus, 631 01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:09,280 December 11th and 12th, 1968, Maryanne was to sing Sister Morphine as a promo, but it was declared 632 01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:16,000 that the song was just too risky to play. So, Maryanne would sing Something Better instead for 633 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:25,280 her single. Maryanne and Mick would do the final vocal overdubs early 69 at Olympic in London. 634 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:33,280 So, a release single, Something Better in the Bside Sister Morphe in February of 69. It was 635 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:41,440 out only for two days. Deca had a panic attack and it freaked out and pulled it off the shelves. 636 01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:48,160 Maryanne got no explanation or apology and Mick would visit the head, Sir Edward Lewis, and give 637 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:57,040 his thoughts. Mick got nowhere. It was found out that Deca pulled it due to a drug reference. Must 638 01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:02,960 have been secondary complaint as why was it given an approval for a release and get the 639 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:10,960 go-ahad? Needless to say, Maryanne not only had a devastation in November of ' 68 of a miscarriage, 640 01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:17,440 but now this. This single was to be jointly combined with her greatest hits album that 641 01:28:17,440 --> 01:28:23,920 was going to be released during ' 69. Sister morphine was put on the aside in some countries 642 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:33,600 like Holland, Italy and Japan. And again, it was written out of my direct experience. Um, 643 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:39,840 and it's the direct experience that gets me through it because I know I can sing 644 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:49,520 sister morphine. I wrote it. It belongs to me. I I it's part of my my stuff. 645 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,480 We have here a version that the Stones made February or 646 01:28:56,480 --> 01:29:03,440 March in 69 at Olympic. And we get a lyric difference the second line 647 01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:12,480 which Mick in this early version pleads please instead of tell me. 648 01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:19,040 I am coming round again. 649 01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:26,240 Oh, I don't think I could wait that long. 650 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:30,800 This version, you'll clearly hear Keith taking over with the guitar, 651 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:39,440 not Mick. We hear Nichi's piano come in on this second verse. As you'll see on the right side, 652 01:29:39,440 --> 01:29:47,600 a verse that's not included in the studio cut, but was played here and Maryanne did include it. 653 01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:57,840 All the other patients said never seen a man with such pain. 654 01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:05,440 Tell me sister M when are you coming round again? 655 01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:20,720 Rye comes in in the scream of the ambulance and Bill's base. Also, 656 01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:31,360 the scream of the ambulance is sounding in my ear. 657 01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:42,400 Hey, Sister M. How long have I been lying here? 658 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:52,880 No reverb yet. It's very dry. Some of mix enunciations are not made yet. 659 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:58,240 And just when we hear just goes to show you, we hear Charlie for the first time. 660 01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:09,520 It just goes to show things are not what they seem. 661 01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:19,200 Hey sister turn my nightmare into dreams 662 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:27,360 for the sweet cousin line. He does say please instead of sweet. Mick says, "Lay your cool 663 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:41,600 hands on my head." Does not say hand. Just some very subtle differences here. Please 664 01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:48,720 lay your hands on my head. This was the Stone's first shot at the song, 665 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,640 leaving it unfinished and shelved. 666 01:31:53,840 --> 01:32:00,480 Us deep fans can just shake our head in awe of this early take. It's not certain who brought 667 01:32:00,480 --> 01:32:07,920 or suggested this song to be resurrected for Sticky Sessions, but the song's full presentation 668 01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:16,240 and its demeanor fits the package and direction that they were headed for. The song spans March 669 01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:26,880 70 to March 71 in the timeline. At Olympic in March to May 1970 is when they open the door to 670 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:34,160 it again. Mick was working on his vocals. Keith overdubbing with acoustic. The song 671 01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:42,000 arrangement and structure is given a refinement and Jimmy Miller starts planning his ideas for it. 672 01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:49,520 In June to July, still at Olympic, they did similar refinement, editing, 673 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:56,640 and figuring out how to layer what was needed, the mixing ideas. In October, 674 01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:01,280 in the fall, the final arrangements and deciding that this one's a keeper for the 675 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:11,680 album. January to March in 71, the final stages of cleanup, mixing, and maintaining the song. 676 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:29,840 You see the song's first 57 seconds have Mick and Keith. Then we hear Ry, 677 01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:41,280 the scream of the ambulance. At the 105 mark when Mick lengthens scream of the ambulance giving us 678 01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:50,720 an enhancement of this mechanical warning horn as Ry interplays with Mick. At 125 comes Bill and we 679 01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:59,440 hear the chilling line, "Why does the doctor have no face?" which perfectly captures a druginduced 680 01:33:59,440 --> 01:34:12,560 hallucinatory delirium. Why does the doctor have your face? One of the best lines of this song. It 681 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:21,280 gives you such a visual. At 204, I always thought he was saying, "I'm not trying to scold." Yes, 682 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:30,720 it's trying to score. Makes sense now, especially with the reverb at the end. I'm trying to score. 683 01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:38,480 But this displays Jimmy and the band's brilliance. 212 we get Charlie first bass 684 01:34:38,480 --> 01:34:47,680 drum and he continues on. But let us address that white elephant at 217 mark. The sound I 685 01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:55,440 really just accepted but I never question. What is this? Yeah, it's that sound behind 686 01:34:55,440 --> 01:35:06,960 the slide. The one you hear. Yes, that one. But you can't describe what it is. 687 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:15,840 It adds another Jimmy Miller superior layer to this esoteric feel of the song. I found deep in 688 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:23,440 the heart of geekness. The sound source instrument is most likely a piano, but it's pulled through 689 01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:32,480 an echo plate reverb. It's called a wet signal. It's generated by Jack's piano post production. 690 01:35:32,480 --> 01:35:40,000 I talk about the echo plate in my part two. It gives some eerie sounds and I always had put it 691 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:57,120 aside. It really is the true sinister injection of this song. Aside from the eerie ry slide, 692 01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:12,240 the echo play piano reverb is heard clearly at 350 right after cocaine and then continues on. 693 01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:22,400 Sweet cousin cocaine lay a coo hand on the head. 694 01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:36,400 Is this a mixed mistake that he caught himself at 4:31? 695 01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:53,920 And that outro is wonderful. A jam and Charlie driving it all. 696 01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:59,280 The song is a masterpiece like they all are. I'm going to end with some 697 01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:05,040 deconstructing and I think you will enjoy the sounds of these. 698 01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:28,320 Heat. Heat. 699 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:42,560 Hey, 700 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:51,840 hey, 701 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,960 hey. 702 01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:17,360 Heat. Heat. 703 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:37,600 Heat. Heat. 704 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:48,640 in my heart little bit. 705 01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:59,680 Tell me sister when I coming around again. 706 01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:11,840 Oh, and I don't think I can wait that long. And I know in the morning I'll be 707 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:27,120 there. Yeah. And you can sit around. Yeah. And you can watch all the clean white sheets stay. 708 01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:33,600 That brings closure to Sticky Fingers part four. Part five will continue on with the 709 01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:41,360 Europe tour. the recordings in the fall and a few of the songs left for the album, 710 01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:56,160 the UK tour, the release of the album. We'll see you next time. 711 01:39:56,160 --> 01:40:12,480 Oh, 712 01:40:12,480 --> 01:40:18,960 heat, 713 01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:22,320 heat. 714 01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:32,720 Heat. Heat. 715 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:43,920 do 716 01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:48,640 it all around you.88349

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