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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,550 --> 00:00:09,780 - Okay, action. 2 00:00:09,780 --> 00:00:16,000 - [Man] Clint Eastwood is a true filmmaker, that's all he wants to do and he does it well, 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:22,870 and he doesn't make publicity, he doesn't make deals, he makes movies. 4 00:00:22,870 --> 00:00:27,310 - [Man] Clint Eastwood is a workaholic. 5 00:00:27,310 --> 00:00:32,010 After every picture he talks about going skiing, and he talks about going back and resting 6 00:00:32,010 --> 00:00:38,320 in Carmel, and that lasts for about 15 nanoseconds, and then we're talking about the next project. 7 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:47,239 - [Man] He really had faith in his objective, faith in himself, despite the odds, and the 8 00:00:47,239 --> 00:00:49,350 odds were tremendous. 9 00:00:49,350 --> 00:01:11,670 He did it, he did it, he got to the top, and he deservedly belongs there. 10 00:01:11,670 --> 00:01:16,100 - I have this sort of feeling, and I guess it was my father who stated it, he says you 11 00:01:16,100 --> 00:01:19,760 either progress or decay, he used to say. 12 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,120 Well, I always took that to heart. 13 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:32,470 Heard the script for A Fistful of Dollars, and I read that it was a translation of Yojimbo, 14 00:01:32,470 --> 00:01:35,540 one of my favorite Kurosawa films. 15 00:01:35,540 --> 00:01:41,400 So I thought, what a wild opportunity, here's fate kinda taking me towards this project. 16 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,890 It's gonna be done for a nickel and a dime in Europe. 17 00:01:45,890 --> 00:01:49,080 It'll probably never play anywhere, but it's a chance to go to Europe. 18 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,740 So I said yeah, I'll do it, I'll do that job. 19 00:01:52,740 --> 00:01:58,790 And I had this opportunity to create this character with Sergio Leone that was a very 20 00:01:58,790 --> 00:02:01,360 mythical type character, a very mysterious kind of character. 21 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:11,039 It was done with a lot of style, and the picture I guess cost around $200,000, maybe a little 22 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:18,620 more, in 1964, which I guess even in those days would be considered a low budget. 23 00:02:18,620 --> 00:02:25,260 - The movie was a traditional western, and I think it established Clint as the quiet, 24 00:02:25,260 --> 00:02:31,790 methodic type of actor, where a lot of action and very little dialogue. 25 00:02:31,790 --> 00:02:37,400 In fact, there was more dialogue written, and between Leone and Clint, they decided 26 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:43,099 that he doesn't have to say that, it'll imply itself. 27 00:02:43,099 --> 00:02:51,340 - The language barrier was a little bit difficult at time, Sergio knew one word in English, 28 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:58,450 he knew goodbye, and I knew arrivederci, so we were kinda started off even. 29 00:02:58,450 --> 00:03:04,750 I don't think it's nice, you laughing. 30 00:03:04,750 --> 00:03:09,680 You see my mule don't like people laughing. 31 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,240 Gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. 32 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:18,850 So if you'll apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really 33 00:03:18,850 --> 00:03:19,850 didn't mean it. 34 00:03:19,850 --> 00:03:25,860 It was such an unusual idea, to play somebody who wasn't heroic at all. 35 00:03:25,860 --> 00:03:32,140 To do a lot of things that were completely unacceptable by those standards in American 36 00:03:32,140 --> 00:03:33,140 history. 37 00:03:33,140 --> 00:03:38,630 There was the Hayes office rules back in the, dating back into the '30s where you couldn't 38 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:43,220 have certain things, you couldn't have a person shot in the same scene, because you couldn't 39 00:03:43,220 --> 00:03:48,280 tie up a person with a gun and a person being hit, and the Italians didn't know anything 40 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,580 about that. 41 00:03:49,580 --> 00:03:53,280 Sergio didn't know anything about that, and I didn't tell him, because I figured here 42 00:03:53,280 --> 00:04:10,260 was a chance to break all those rules and forge out with a whole new look. 43 00:04:10,260 --> 00:04:13,650 - When he went to Europe, he played a ruthless mercenary. 44 00:04:13,650 --> 00:04:22,370 He was very quiet, very cold, very steel-like, and he did it with a kind of confidence and 45 00:04:22,370 --> 00:04:30,099 courage that generally the two qualities, virility and vulnerability, which I think 46 00:04:30,099 --> 00:04:32,180 catapulted him to stardom. 47 00:04:32,180 --> 00:04:37,690 - When he did the spaghetti westerns, David Picker was the head of United Artists, and 48 00:04:37,690 --> 00:04:41,770 United Artists distributed the pictures in the United States, and he came into the office 49 00:04:41,770 --> 00:04:50,610 and he at that time said "this Clint Eastwood, major star, "you're gonna be getting $750,000 50 00:04:50,610 --> 00:04:51,659 a picture for him." 51 00:04:51,659 --> 00:04:56,680 And at that time, that was an unheard of number. 52 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,430 That was the perception by the industry. 53 00:04:59,430 --> 00:05:05,569 He was instantly recognized off of the Italian westerns as being a movie star. 54 00:05:05,569 --> 00:05:09,969 - I remember my father when I called him and told him I wanted to be... 55 00:05:09,969 --> 00:05:14,214 I was gonna try to be an actor, and study it, he just kept saying "don't do that, don't 56 00:05:14,214 --> 00:05:19,271 do that, "the stuff that dreams are made out of, "and you'll never have any chance," something 57 00:05:19,271 --> 00:05:23,050 like that. 58 00:05:23,050 --> 00:05:27,550 I was born in San Francisco during the Depression, 1930. 59 00:05:27,550 --> 00:05:34,569 It was a bad time for a young couple to start out, but they did anyway, and so we traveled 60 00:05:34,569 --> 00:05:40,749 to quite a few cities in the San Fernando and Sacramento Valleys. 61 00:05:40,749 --> 00:05:46,909 Middle class family, one sister, it was nice because I had terrific parents, I was very 62 00:05:46,909 --> 00:05:48,460 very lucky. 63 00:05:48,460 --> 00:05:54,490 And everybody was struggling in the country at that particular time. 64 00:05:54,490 --> 00:05:58,169 I did go to live my grandmother at one time because both of my parents worked during the 65 00:05:58,169 --> 00:05:59,169 war. 66 00:05:59,169 --> 00:06:04,850 It was pretty low existence out there, and I did get a great appreciation of rural life. 67 00:06:04,850 --> 00:06:13,860 I had a cousin who had some horses, so I rode quite a bit, and wasn't too bad at that. 68 00:06:13,860 --> 00:06:17,409 And I guess I had the same fantasies everyone else had. 69 00:06:17,409 --> 00:06:20,779 Because I was alone a good portion of the time, I remember, and you kinda live within 70 00:06:20,779 --> 00:06:24,740 your imagination an awful lot. 71 00:06:24,740 --> 00:06:29,060 I never went to college 'til after the military, so I didn't go to Korea, I was one of the 72 00:06:29,060 --> 00:06:30,129 fortune ones. 73 00:06:30,129 --> 00:06:37,309 While I was going to college I got an opportunity to test for a motion picture contract, and 74 00:06:37,309 --> 00:06:41,699 I got the job, it was a deal where you study acting and maybe you'll be something, maybe 75 00:06:41,699 --> 00:06:42,699 you won't. 76 00:06:42,699 --> 00:06:45,290 They didn't invest a lot of money, ut the studio invested some money. 77 00:06:45,290 --> 00:06:48,439 In my case, I had about a $75 a week deal. 78 00:06:48,439 --> 00:06:51,569 But it seemed like a lot of money at that time. 79 00:06:51,569 --> 00:06:57,439 It seemed like a lot of money, and I had been going to school and working several jobs at 80 00:06:57,439 --> 00:07:02,689 the same time, several jobs as I was putting myself through college on the GI bill, and 81 00:07:02,689 --> 00:07:07,870 I was married at the time and struggling, it was a very very tough, tough time. 82 00:07:07,870 --> 00:07:13,889 So this was a steady job I could try. 83 00:07:13,889 --> 00:07:17,099 Universal was going through an odd period in that time in history where they made mostly 84 00:07:17,099 --> 00:07:22,300 B movies, but they were films nonetheless, and it was a nice period. 85 00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:26,710 I used to go down to sets all the time and watch people shoot if I wasn't acting in the 86 00:07:26,710 --> 00:07:27,889 picture. 87 00:07:27,889 --> 00:07:33,629 And the studio systems were slowly coming to an end at that particular time, and television 88 00:07:33,629 --> 00:07:36,409 was just starting to come on real strong. 89 00:07:36,409 --> 00:07:44,680 And so they dropped my option, like they did most of the other people there, eventually. 90 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:52,150 They dropped it when my option came up, and I was left out in the cold. 91 00:07:52,150 --> 00:07:55,770 I had an agent and I kind of bounced around from one interview to another. 92 00:07:55,770 --> 00:08:00,869 It was a very bleak period, I did get a couple small parts, and then in between I'd have 93 00:08:00,869 --> 00:08:04,219 to work, I worked digging a swimming pools. 94 00:08:04,219 --> 00:08:09,120 Because it didn't feel right just trying to collect unemployment or what have you. 95 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:10,979 And plus I couldn't live on that. 96 00:08:10,979 --> 00:08:18,300 ♪ Rolling, rolling, rolling ♪ ♪ Rolling, rolling, rolling ♪ Finally there was a rumor 97 00:08:18,300 --> 00:08:19,600 CBS was doing an hour western series. 98 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:25,460 They wanted a lead about 37 years old, and I thought that's another one I'll miss. 99 00:08:25,460 --> 00:08:27,650 But then it turned out there were two leads for the series. 100 00:08:27,650 --> 00:08:31,270 I tested the next day, and I got one of them. 101 00:08:31,270 --> 00:08:34,270 And then I was legitimately employed, like most people are. 102 00:08:34,270 --> 00:08:41,889 I had a job that would go week in, week out throughout the year, and that job did go for 103 00:08:41,889 --> 00:08:42,889 over seven years. 104 00:08:42,889 --> 00:08:47,690 Might as well all relax, looks like we're here to stay. 105 00:08:47,690 --> 00:08:52,399 It was a great period, because I was learning a lot, it was an hour show, a fairly high 106 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:56,470 budget show and we could afford names, and I worked with a lot of people I'd grown up 107 00:08:56,470 --> 00:09:00,610 watching on the screen, so it was a great learning ground, I worked for a lot of directors 108 00:09:00,610 --> 00:09:01,610 too. 109 00:09:01,610 --> 00:09:06,429 Teddy Post, who I had watched teach cinema classes. 110 00:09:06,429 --> 00:09:13,240 - He hung around the camera a lot, and I being a teacher loved to kind of illustrate what 111 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,529 it is I'm attempting to do with a scene. 112 00:09:15,529 --> 00:09:16,529 - Mr. Yates? 113 00:09:16,529 --> 00:09:18,620 - [Teddy] And he would listen very carefully. 114 00:09:18,620 --> 00:09:22,329 - Look, I've had just about all I can handle before lunch. 115 00:09:22,329 --> 00:09:23,769 - Aww, that's a shame. 116 00:09:23,769 --> 00:09:26,429 And here I was gonna offer you a drink. 117 00:09:26,429 --> 00:09:28,030 - Of what, poison? 118 00:09:28,030 --> 00:09:29,389 - 10 year old straight whiskey. 119 00:09:29,389 --> 00:09:30,870 Anyway, I'm truly sorry, Mr. Yates. 120 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:35,589 And I apologize with all my heart. 121 00:09:35,589 --> 00:09:38,630 - Well, that's all right. 122 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:41,670 - Well come on then. 123 00:09:41,670 --> 00:09:46,770 - Well, I should be getting back to the herd. 124 00:09:46,770 --> 00:09:50,580 10 year old whiskey, you say? 125 00:09:50,580 --> 00:09:55,900 The character of Rowdy was fun to play, but I was always frustrated about not being able 126 00:09:55,900 --> 00:10:03,779 to play some more charactery parts, more adult theme or instead of playing just the dumb 127 00:10:03,779 --> 00:10:04,779 sidekick. 128 00:10:04,779 --> 00:10:09,259 After The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly came out and started doing business, American companies 129 00:10:09,259 --> 00:10:14,699 were starting to come around and think that well, maybe Eastwood wasn't just gonna be 130 00:10:14,699 --> 00:10:19,550 an overnight Italian flash or what have you. 131 00:10:19,550 --> 00:10:24,270 I was offered a film called Hang 'Em High. 132 00:10:24,270 --> 00:10:30,069 Delved into pros and cons of capital punishment, and had a little bit more substance to it 133 00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:32,370 than some of the characters I'd been playing. 134 00:10:32,370 --> 00:10:36,440 And it was an opportunity to come back to the states and play in some films here in 135 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,630 America. 136 00:10:37,630 --> 00:10:41,100 It seemed the timely thing to do. 137 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:47,490 - I worked with Clint maybe 16 to 20 Rawhides, and he wanted me to work with him on this 138 00:10:47,490 --> 00:10:49,750 first American project. 139 00:10:49,750 --> 00:10:57,519 There was a lot of resistance from the United Artists, because they felt that they wanted 140 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:06,129 to get somebody who had done westerns on a large scale screen, and they could trust. 141 00:11:06,129 --> 00:11:13,180 He very considerately told them all that this is the guy he was gonna go with, and he went 142 00:11:13,180 --> 00:11:14,180 with me. 143 00:11:14,180 --> 00:11:16,040 And it was a smash hit. 144 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:23,410 - But he gives that appearance of, you know, being a very easygoing fellow. 145 00:11:23,410 --> 00:11:29,250 Well, he is easygoing, but at the same time, he is a filmmaker. 146 00:11:29,250 --> 00:11:34,209 I knew from the very beginning, and that's why he formed his company very early, that 147 00:11:34,209 --> 00:11:42,610 this was a man who was unlimited in terms of being an actor, a producer, and a director. 148 00:11:42,610 --> 00:11:49,300 In Carmel, where Clint lives, there's a creek called the Malpaso Creek, and it's that simple, 149 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:53,329 he took the name of that creek for the name of his company. 150 00:11:53,329 --> 00:11:59,120 - Put your pants on, Chief. 151 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,639 The thing that attracted me to that particular project was that it was a fish out of water 152 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:10,319 kind of guy, he was a guy who works as a sheriff in a rural community in Arizona, going to 153 00:12:10,319 --> 00:12:16,231 New York and being displaced, and it reminded me kinda of the old pictures that you used 154 00:12:16,231 --> 00:12:22,269 to see in the '30s and '40s a lot, maybe not the same category as Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, 155 00:12:22,269 --> 00:12:27,649 but people who were definitely out of their element placed in another environment and 156 00:12:27,649 --> 00:12:30,220 how they operated. 157 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:34,519 - That's $2.95, including the luggage. 158 00:12:34,519 --> 00:12:41,360 - Tell me, how many stores are there named Bloomingdale's in this town? 159 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,120 - One, why? 160 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,350 - We passed it twice. 161 00:12:46,350 --> 00:12:52,560 - It's still $2.95, including the luggage. 162 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:53,600 - Yeah. 163 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:59,809 Well, here's $3, including the tip. 164 00:12:59,809 --> 00:13:04,980 - You'll need your horse, cowboy. 165 00:13:04,980 --> 00:13:07,389 - Working with Don Siegel turned out to be terrific. 166 00:13:07,389 --> 00:13:13,779 I got to watch a guy who really could do a lot with his time, and manage what he had 167 00:13:13,779 --> 00:13:34,510 to work with very well. 168 00:13:34,510 --> 00:13:38,730 Two Mules for Sister Sara was a nice script, it was recently written by Budd Boetticher 169 00:13:38,730 --> 00:13:46,360 some years ago, and it was written for a Mexican nun traveling in Mexico, and Universal had 170 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,689 made a film called Sweet Charity with Shirley MacLaine, so they wanted to do it with Shirley 171 00:13:50,689 --> 00:13:51,689 MacLaine. 172 00:13:51,689 --> 00:13:57,850 So we had to make the nun an Irish woman who was sympathetic to causes, who was adrift 173 00:13:57,850 --> 00:14:03,399 in Mexico, and you have this gringo played by me who's adrift in Mexico, and we had changed 174 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:04,479 things quite a bit. 175 00:14:04,479 --> 00:14:06,959 - Is this small package of dynamite powerful enough? 176 00:14:06,959 --> 00:14:08,870 - Not if you put it down here at the base. 177 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:12,730 You put it up high on those bracers, pow. 178 00:14:12,730 --> 00:14:13,880 - Oh no. 179 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,269 If I climb that trestle, I'll fall. 180 00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:20,620 - A fine psalm-singing hypocrite you are. 181 00:14:20,620 --> 00:14:24,920 The French are gonna slaughter a whole outfit of your Juaristas, and you're the only one 182 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,879 who can help them. 183 00:14:26,879 --> 00:14:32,320 And you won't climb one lousy stinkin' trestle. 184 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,189 - I've been with Clint about 22 years now. 185 00:14:35,189 --> 00:14:41,790 The first film was Two Mules for Sister Sara, I was hired as a stunt coordinator to make 186 00:14:41,790 --> 00:14:48,439 sure the action turned out all right and to kinda keep Clint on tow and not let him do 187 00:14:48,439 --> 00:14:56,740 too much, because he's a physical guy and likes to do his own thing. 188 00:14:56,740 --> 00:15:09,149 - I think, you know, you enjoy doing the things that you're good at, and he is good at it, 189 00:15:09,149 --> 00:15:11,670 and it also gives a sense of realism. 190 00:15:11,670 --> 00:15:20,089 The trouble we have sometimes is kinda keeping him down to where he doesn't do too much. 191 00:15:20,089 --> 00:15:21,089 - A real blue belly. 192 00:15:21,089 --> 00:15:23,569 There's only one way to tell if he's a yank. 193 00:15:23,569 --> 00:15:24,569 - How's that? 194 00:15:24,569 --> 00:15:25,569 - Take off his pants. 195 00:15:25,569 --> 00:15:26,569 Yanks have tails. 196 00:15:26,569 --> 00:15:27,569 - Doris, stop that nonsense. 197 00:15:27,569 --> 00:15:33,519 - In The Beguiled, Don Siegel and I could work on the aspect of not having things in 198 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:39,220 black and white, and showing the grays in between, because The Beguiled was simply a 199 00:15:39,220 --> 00:15:43,260 fact of what the illness of war did to all the people on the periphery. 200 00:15:43,260 --> 00:15:44,260 Where's he? 201 00:15:44,260 --> 00:15:45,600 - He's presumed dead. 202 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:54,850 - There's no men around here at all then, huh? 203 00:15:54,850 --> 00:15:56,560 Wow. 204 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:18,329 - I'll try not to dictate your personal behavior, Corporal. 205 00:16:18,329 --> 00:16:21,660 - No. 206 00:16:21,660 --> 00:16:32,300 - [Clint] In Beguiled, the hero dies. 207 00:16:32,300 --> 00:16:37,220 - You lying son of a bitch! 208 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:43,920 - To have him go off happily ever after, minus his leg, minus his, you know, with several 209 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:44,920 of the... 210 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:52,149 The little girl and a love interest Hollywood bowtie ending just seemed a little bit much 211 00:16:52,149 --> 00:16:56,089 for me at that particular project. 212 00:16:56,089 --> 00:17:00,750 French reviewers are throwing great accolades, and even some American reviewers are starting 213 00:17:00,750 --> 00:17:04,950 to think, well, this guy Eastwood is at least not afraid to try something different. 214 00:17:04,950 --> 00:17:07,660 - KRML, Dave Garver speaking. 215 00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:09,020 - [Woman] Hello. 216 00:17:09,020 --> 00:17:11,329 - Hi, what'll it be? 217 00:17:11,329 --> 00:17:15,630 - [Woman] Play Misty for me. 218 00:17:15,630 --> 00:17:17,660 - I liked the story very much. 219 00:17:17,660 --> 00:17:25,770 So now I had to go to the head of Universal, Lou Wassima, and convince him that I should 220 00:17:25,770 --> 00:17:31,820 do this picture, and that I would also like to direct the picture, which is kind of an 221 00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:39,890 interesting situation, because at that time, this particular time in 1970, a lot of actors 222 00:17:39,890 --> 00:17:42,220 weren't directing. 223 00:17:42,220 --> 00:17:46,210 I was very surprised when Mr. Wassima said "yeah, go ahead. 224 00:17:46,210 --> 00:17:49,970 "We're not gonna pay you for it, "you just do it for free." 225 00:17:49,970 --> 00:17:56,040 But I wanted to direct so desperately, I thought yeah, that's a great idea. 226 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,480 - The first day of filming was the scene in the bar where Evelyn meets Dave. 227 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:08,150 The bartender is played by Don Siegel, who had directed Clint in many films, and you 228 00:18:08,150 --> 00:18:15,130 could just see this wonderful feeling Don had, sort of like a mother hen letting his 229 00:18:15,130 --> 00:18:21,350 chick loose, and Clint was very certain about what he wanted. 230 00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:28,020 He'd made it very clear in the pre-production work that, he told me, he said "you know, 231 00:18:28,020 --> 00:18:29,050 I don't want any makeup." 232 00:18:29,050 --> 00:18:34,320 I of course died inside, but I didn't say anything. 233 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,450 He said "I don't want that universal "shot out of a cannon look." 234 00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:43,750 - I always hate that look that you get on television, you know, when you see television 235 00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:50,080 shows, where everybody has the exact same complexion, everybody looks like they're... 236 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:56,960 Kind of masked over, without any natural characteristics of their faces. 237 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:03,530 - I said to myself, a nice green salad with roford and tomatoes, baked potato and... 238 00:19:03,530 --> 00:19:04,530 Stop. 239 00:19:04,530 --> 00:19:06,360 - What's going on here? 240 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:07,360 - I'm sorry. 241 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:08,710 Why don't you keep the stuff, I think I've lost my appetite. 242 00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:10,080 - Hey, hang on a minute. 243 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,380 I'm just trying to tell you something, that's all. 244 00:19:12,380 --> 00:19:16,070 - I don't understand, should I go, should I stay, what do you want? 245 00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:20,170 - I'm trying to tell you that there's a telephone, and I pick it up and I dial it, and you answer 246 00:19:20,170 --> 00:19:21,970 and I say "hey, what are you doing?" 247 00:19:21,970 --> 00:19:23,260 - And I say "I'll be right over." 248 00:19:23,260 --> 00:19:26,780 - Fine, next time why don't we do it that way? 249 00:19:26,780 --> 00:19:27,780 - Okay. 250 00:19:27,780 --> 00:19:32,030 He created an atmosphere on the set, and he does this on all his films, I've heard from 251 00:19:32,030 --> 00:19:33,960 other actors who worked with him. 252 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,330 He makes you feel secure. 253 00:19:35,330 --> 00:19:36,810 It's a very safe environment. 254 00:19:36,810 --> 00:19:42,051 You feel that you can risk things, and you can really not be afraid to try things, as 255 00:19:42,051 --> 00:19:43,669 an actor. 256 00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:47,660 - What's going on? 257 00:19:47,660 --> 00:19:49,250 - Don't tell me he was asleep! 258 00:19:49,250 --> 00:19:51,200 - What else at this hour of the morning? 259 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,290 - Oh, I'm surprised his conscience was that clear! 260 00:19:53,290 --> 00:19:54,290 - What do you want, Evelyn? 261 00:19:54,290 --> 00:19:55,290 - What do you want, Evelyn, what do you want? 262 00:19:55,290 --> 00:19:56,290 Do I have to want something? 263 00:19:56,290 --> 00:19:58,410 Can't I just come over? 264 00:19:58,410 --> 00:20:00,150 Or is it inconvenient? 265 00:20:00,150 --> 00:20:01,150 - Now wait just-- 266 00:20:01,150 --> 00:20:02,150 - Could it be I've made a boo boo. 267 00:20:02,150 --> 00:20:03,750 Could it be that someone has been sleeping in Papa's bed?! 268 00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:04,750 - Wait a minute, dammit. 269 00:20:04,750 --> 00:20:06,330 - Come out, come out, wherever you are! 270 00:20:06,330 --> 00:20:10,170 I thought... 271 00:20:10,170 --> 00:20:15,200 - I just don't know what to say to you. 272 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,300 - I'm sorry I mistrusted you, I should've known you'd never do anything to spoil it. 273 00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:20,570 - To spoil what?! 274 00:20:20,570 --> 00:20:28,030 I made the film in five and a half weeks, and for probably a direct cost, I think it 275 00:20:28,030 --> 00:20:32,210 was round $720 or 40,000, somewhere in that region. 276 00:20:32,210 --> 00:20:37,530 Which was very reasonable, even by those days' standards. 277 00:20:37,530 --> 00:20:42,970 And so they weren't in too deep and the picture went out, and it played decently, and it had 278 00:20:42,970 --> 00:20:48,180 a certain longevity, it seemed to keep recurring and coming back and being re-released, and 279 00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:55,690 so it was kind of a new phase of my life. 280 00:20:55,690 --> 00:20:58,780 Halt! 281 00:20:58,780 --> 00:21:04,990 Dirty Harry was a detective who had had a lot of problems who has been very unorthodox. 282 00:21:04,990 --> 00:21:12,100 Who didn't like some of the bureaucratic nightmare that most cities are faced with nowadays. 283 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:14,880 I know what you're thinking. 284 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,850 Did he fire six shots or only five? 285 00:21:19,850 --> 00:21:24,300 Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I've kinda lost track myself. 286 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:35,923 But being this is a 44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your 287 00:21:35,923 --> 00:21:36,923 head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, do I feel lucky? 288 00:21:36,923 --> 00:21:37,923 Well do ya, punk? 289 00:21:37,923 --> 00:21:39,681 Men could say yeah, I mean I like that, that sort of justice of somebody who's very individualistic, 290 00:21:39,681 --> 00:21:44,990 and women would fantasize that that's the kind of guy they'd like to have, or men would 291 00:21:44,990 --> 00:21:48,830 fantasize that's the kind of guy I'd like to be, I'd like to be able to handle problems 292 00:21:48,830 --> 00:21:52,870 like that, there's a great romance in being able to have the right saying at the right 293 00:21:52,870 --> 00:21:53,870 time. 294 00:21:53,870 --> 00:21:58,480 - I don't want any more trouble like you had last year in the Philmore District. 295 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,480 Understand? 296 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,480 That's my policy. 297 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:06,171 - Yeah, well, when an adult male is chasing a female with intent to commit rape, I shoot 298 00:22:06,171 --> 00:22:09,120 the bastard, that's my policy. 299 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:10,120 - Intent? 300 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:11,830 How did you establish that? 301 00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:16,370 - Well when a naked man is chasing a woman through an alley with a butcher knife and 302 00:22:16,370 --> 00:22:22,360 a hard on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross. 303 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:30,920 - He had that special charisma that made him a motion picture star, and Dirty Harry changed 304 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,650 everything and he went from stardom to superstardom. 305 00:22:33,650 --> 00:22:39,580 - [Clint] The High Plains Drifter, it was the first western I'd ever directed. 306 00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:44,270 I liked the allegorical aspect of it. 307 00:22:44,270 --> 00:22:50,570 - He wanted the look of a new town, a town being built, so that's why most of the lumber 308 00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:57,270 was raw, and he wanted to avoid the look of the back plot western streets that we used 309 00:22:57,270 --> 00:23:05,620 so often, and with a good background, and I think Clint wants them to look very real. 310 00:23:05,620 --> 00:23:10,000 - [Clint] Here's a town where they allowed the sheriff to be whipped to death. 311 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:16,740 Now somebody is coming back to remind them of their guilt. 312 00:23:16,740 --> 00:23:21,240 - I played the part of the sheriff. 313 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:27,490 I asked Clint later, I said, "am I your brother, or is this like a reincarnation?" 314 00:23:27,490 --> 00:23:31,220 He said "well," he said "just kinda let the audience "make up their own mind." 315 00:23:31,220 --> 00:23:37,350 - An ambivalent statement, sometimes it allows the audience to think along with you, it allows 316 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:42,840 the audience to participate in the process. 317 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:48,862 There's something nice about the participation, not just having a story dumped in their lap. 318 00:23:48,862 --> 00:23:49,862 - Who are you?! 319 00:23:49,862 --> 00:24:01,090 - The stranger drifts off, and the people never 320 00:24:01,090 --> 00:24:05,740 know whether the stranger is really a relative of the sheriff, which is the way it was originally 321 00:24:05,740 --> 00:24:15,970 written, or whether he is some angel of death that is sent down to torment them all. 322 00:24:15,970 --> 00:24:23,470 - Glory to God in the highest, and on Earth, peace and good will towards men. 323 00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:24,470 - Amen. 324 00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:31,100 - I sat down and wrote an original screenplay, and gave it to him on a Friday. 325 00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:35,630 And on Monday, Clint said he would do it. 326 00:24:35,630 --> 00:24:40,770 So I said it was not for sale unless I could direct it. 327 00:24:40,770 --> 00:24:41,770 Which was rather... 328 00:24:41,770 --> 00:24:50,530 You know, rather audacious of me at the time, considering that I had no background in film 329 00:24:50,530 --> 00:24:52,100 whatever. 330 00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:58,570 And I think it kinda sparked something in Clint. 331 00:24:58,570 --> 00:25:03,669 Clint admires risk takers. 332 00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:14,710 - I thought you were the heat. 333 00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:15,710 - Do I look like heat? 334 00:25:15,710 --> 00:25:24,740 - You look like one crazy son of a bitch for a preacher, I'll tell you that. 335 00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:27,410 Who's that guy back there in the wheat? 336 00:25:27,410 --> 00:25:28,410 - Old friend. 337 00:25:28,410 --> 00:25:32,860 - With friends like that, you don't need enemies. 338 00:25:32,860 --> 00:25:40,060 - Knowing Clint's reputation for liking to move quickly, I had to be absolutely buttoned 339 00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:50,000 up on every shot, and I knew that this was the make or break moment because of the... 340 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:57,000 When Clint came up to the set, it was his first visit to the set, if the crew stopped 341 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:03,040 working for one second and started saying hello to Clint and shaking hands and buzzing 342 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,070 around him and so forth, I was finished. 343 00:26:07,070 --> 00:26:13,360 If the crew kept working, then I knew we were off to a good start. 344 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:17,190 And when he finally came up, nobody even looked up. 345 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:25,080 They just kept working away, almost ignoring Clint, and we got the shot and Clint was all 346 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:31,310 smiles ear to ear, because he knew what had happened too. 347 00:26:31,310 --> 00:26:36,560 I recall when we were preparing the movie, I said to Jeff, I said "Jeff, you've got one 348 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,330 job to do "on this picture," and he said "what's that?" 349 00:26:39,330 --> 00:26:42,220 I said "you've got to make Clint laugh." 350 00:26:42,220 --> 00:26:46,020 I said "nobody has seen Clint laugh in a movie." 351 00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:47,490 - Smell that? 352 00:26:47,490 --> 00:26:50,430 - I don't smell anything. 353 00:26:50,430 --> 00:26:52,950 - It smells like shit. 354 00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:54,000 Oh. 355 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,100 Raccoon shit. 356 00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:58,190 - Raccoon shit. 357 00:26:58,190 --> 00:27:01,036 Hang your hand out the window and let the rain get at it. 358 00:27:01,036 --> 00:27:03,740 - Like a little on your shirt? 359 00:27:03,740 --> 00:27:06,290 - No, get outta here. 360 00:27:06,290 --> 00:27:10,750 Just remember not to pick your teeth. 361 00:27:10,750 --> 00:27:12,020 - Oh god. 362 00:27:12,020 --> 00:27:22,150 - The story was really written so that Clint's character would predominate, but Clint so 363 00:27:22,150 --> 00:27:28,690 much enjoyed Jeff's performance and really let Jeff steal a lot of the scenes, but very 364 00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:33,240 happily so. 365 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:40,659 - [Clint] Howdy. 366 00:27:40,659 --> 00:27:44,370 - Howdy. 367 00:27:44,370 --> 00:27:45,780 - Name's Josey Wales. 368 00:27:45,780 --> 00:27:53,310 The thing I liked about The Outlaw Josey Wales as a story is that it was one of the first 369 00:27:53,310 --> 00:27:58,460 stories I'd ever read, personally, that had been submitted in script form, where Indians 370 00:27:58,460 --> 00:28:03,310 were treated with really quite a good sense of humor. 371 00:28:03,310 --> 00:28:05,590 - Howdy. 372 00:28:05,590 --> 00:28:07,870 - Howdy. 373 00:28:07,870 --> 00:28:14,700 - There something wrong? 374 00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:16,970 - Nope. 375 00:28:16,970 --> 00:28:18,810 - I guess you were right. 376 00:28:18,810 --> 00:28:21,570 I ain't that old after all. 377 00:28:21,570 --> 00:28:29,970 - I loved the plotline of the story, not only the man searching for a life after devastating 378 00:28:29,970 --> 00:28:35,610 experiences during the war, but also a person who believed at that time that human beings 379 00:28:35,610 --> 00:28:40,460 could exist together, there wasn't the necessity of eradicating each other for the sake of 380 00:28:40,460 --> 00:28:42,650 pleasure or envy. 381 00:28:42,650 --> 00:28:44,600 - What'll you have! 382 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,980 - I'm looking for Josey Wales. 383 00:28:47,980 --> 00:28:52,130 - That'd be me. 384 00:28:52,130 --> 00:28:57,460 - You're wanted, Wales. 385 00:28:57,460 --> 00:29:01,470 - I reckon I'm right popular. 386 00:29:01,470 --> 00:29:02,840 You a bounty hunter? 387 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,240 - Man's got to do something for a living these days. 388 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,130 - Dying ain't much of a living, boy. 389 00:29:10,130 --> 00:29:15,910 And the Outlaw Josey Wales has got a whole community that starts building around him, 390 00:29:15,910 --> 00:29:21,120 even as fast as he tries to get away from it, it just keeps expanding. 391 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:28,210 I don't know why I'm always attracted to characters that are in search of family, or in search 392 00:29:28,210 --> 00:29:29,830 of some sort of unity. 393 00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:39,020 I guess it's because I appreciate and have a great sympathy for people, families that 394 00:29:39,020 --> 00:29:40,260 are close together. 395 00:29:40,260 --> 00:29:42,490 - Ladies and gentlemen! 396 00:29:42,490 --> 00:29:45,750 Boys and girls! 397 00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:53,680 We welcome you this evening to the greatest, the most authentic wild west show in America! 398 00:29:53,680 --> 00:30:01,370 So hang on to your hats and boots, or your loved one's hand. 399 00:30:01,370 --> 00:30:11,740 Now let's take you back to a time when the cowboys and Indians roamed our great land. 400 00:30:11,740 --> 00:30:18,650 - Bronco Billy becomes another aspect in my life that I've always attracted to. 401 00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:23,910 Something about a dreamer, especially in this cynical age that we live in. 402 00:30:23,910 --> 00:30:34,010 He dreamed of being a hero in the way that Roy or Hoppy or Gene was in the old days, 403 00:30:34,010 --> 00:30:38,490 but those heroes are not there anymore, it's different now. 404 00:30:38,490 --> 00:30:41,500 And that's what made him good, is he's totally out of sync with time. 405 00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:45,630 But he manages to make it work anyway, because he dreams that hard. 406 00:30:45,630 --> 00:30:47,890 - You people are crazy. 407 00:30:47,890 --> 00:30:52,210 You could all go to jail for the rest of your lives for robbing a train. 408 00:30:52,210 --> 00:30:54,790 - Appreciate your concern, Miss Lily. 409 00:30:54,790 --> 00:30:56,810 And you may be right about us being crazy. 410 00:30:56,810 --> 00:31:00,080 But we're at the end of our rope. 411 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,650 - You're living in a dream world. 412 00:31:01,650 --> 00:31:07,470 There are no more cowboys and Indians, that's in the past. 413 00:31:07,470 --> 00:31:14,730 - Miss Lily, I was raised in a one-room tenement in New Jersey. 414 00:31:14,730 --> 00:31:18,480 As a kid I never even saw a cowboy, much less the wide open spaces. 415 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,800 Except when I could scrounge up a quarter for a picture show. 416 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,810 I was a shoe salesman 'til I was 31 years old. 417 00:31:26,810 --> 00:31:31,820 Deep down in my heart, I always wanted to be a cowboy. 418 00:31:31,820 --> 00:31:37,040 One day I laid down my shoehorn and swore I'd never live in the city again. 419 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,660 You only live once. 420 00:31:40,660 --> 00:31:44,289 Gotta give it your best shot. 421 00:31:44,289 --> 00:31:48,710 - It's Uncle Red. 422 00:31:48,710 --> 00:31:50,180 Bubba? 423 00:31:50,180 --> 00:31:51,660 Bubba? 424 00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:56,080 - Is he dead? 425 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,550 - Yeah. 426 00:31:57,550 --> 00:32:00,500 Dead drunk. 427 00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:03,550 - Oh Bubba, what in the world? 428 00:32:03,550 --> 00:32:08,450 - Honkeytonk Man was a picture that I enjoyed doing not only because it was a picture that 429 00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:14,790 took place during the Great Depression, and it hit on a lot of things that I had seen 430 00:32:14,790 --> 00:32:21,110 when I grew up, but it was also the first of several times where I've visited the subject 431 00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:30,790 matter of losers or people who didn't want to become winners, and it was an opportunity 432 00:32:30,790 --> 00:32:34,910 to work with my son, who happened to be the right age at that time. 433 00:32:34,910 --> 00:32:38,040 - Don't you think you might need some help with your drinking? 434 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,870 - No, I do quite well all by myself. 435 00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:43,940 - Aren't there doctors that-- 436 00:32:43,940 --> 00:32:45,470 - Look, Hoss. 437 00:32:45,470 --> 00:32:50,610 If you want to be my sidekick and chauffer, that's fine, but if I want a nursemaid and 438 00:32:50,610 --> 00:32:56,580 a wife to bitch at me, I'll go out and get myself one. 439 00:32:56,580 --> 00:33:00,340 Understand? 440 00:33:00,340 --> 00:33:04,510 I think it was one of my better efforts as a film. 441 00:33:04,510 --> 00:33:07,440 It wasn't a terribly successful film. 442 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:13,310 It's again another film where the hero dies, and that's not always the most appealing thing 443 00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:17,660 for an audience. 444 00:33:17,660 --> 00:33:26,090 ♪ Throw your arms around this honkeytonk man ♪ ♪ Throw your arms around this honkeytonk 445 00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:36,440 man ♪ ♪ And we'll get through this night the best way we can ♪ A lot of people start 446 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:42,020 looking at me, from the Bronco Billy, Honkeytonk Man days, started looking at me differently 447 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:43,200 as a director. 448 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:49,590 They saw me as somebody who would do other subjects other than subjects that I was commonly 449 00:33:49,590 --> 00:34:00,180 known for, genre films that I had started out with in the '60s. 450 00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:05,320 What I like about Tightrope is it was taking a detective story, a genre I've played in, 451 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:13,880 but a detective who had seen so much seedy elements in his job that he all of a sudden 452 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,120 started losing himself. 453 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,970 He started losing his perspective. 454 00:34:16,970 --> 00:34:25,589 Did she ever mention anything about anybody using handcuffs on her? 455 00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:29,300 - I think so. 456 00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:33,120 She liked to get pretty kinky. 457 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,760 - Remember who it might've been? 458 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,929 - I think it was a cop. 459 00:34:38,929 --> 00:34:41,200 Who knows? 460 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:47,180 Maybe it was you. 461 00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:56,820 - He has some really truthful moments in his eyes, and his stillness is beautiful and painful 462 00:34:56,820 --> 00:34:58,740 to watch. 463 00:34:58,740 --> 00:35:02,140 It was courageous, I think, for him to do a part like that. 464 00:35:02,140 --> 00:35:09,290 Clint Eastwood invited me to join that production because the woman has qualities that I probably 465 00:35:09,290 --> 00:35:10,340 have. 466 00:35:10,340 --> 00:35:15,530 She is strong, she's also vulnerable, she seems a bit of a loner. 467 00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:22,160 So I didn't think that my character and his character ought to make love in the film. 468 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,670 He was totally receptive to that, and they didn't. 469 00:35:24,670 --> 00:35:25,670 - I was wondering what you'd be like. 470 00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:26,670 - Why the sudden interest? 471 00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:27,670 - Well I was wondering if you came alone. 472 00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:28,670 - What else were you wondering? 473 00:35:28,670 --> 00:35:29,950 - You really want to know? 474 00:35:29,950 --> 00:35:31,250 - Yeah. 475 00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:58,140 - What it would be like to lick the sweat off your body. 476 00:35:58,140 --> 00:36:04,920 - Do you... 477 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:10,730 Do you always say exactly what's on your mind? 478 00:36:10,730 --> 00:36:12,950 - You don't like it? 479 00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:16,280 - Could be a little more subtle. 480 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,220 - What I said? 481 00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:21,130 - More the way you said it. 482 00:36:21,130 --> 00:36:24,020 - How would you like me to say it? 483 00:36:24,020 --> 00:36:28,520 - As if you're not saying it to somebody every night. 484 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,380 - That's a good enough shot. 485 00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:37,000 - I've known Clint, I don't know, 20 years probably, and I did live up in Carmel for 486 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:45,260 a while, Pebble Beach, and I know the kind of interaction he has with the community there. 487 00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:52,870 He was the mayor recently of Carmel, which is this kind of cute town on the ocean there, 488 00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:58,510 it's inundated with tourists, and he was very concerned that the town stayed the way it 489 00:36:58,510 --> 00:37:05,830 was, that it didn't fall into the grasp of people who wanted to develop things that most 490 00:37:05,830 --> 00:37:07,240 of the citizens didn't want. 491 00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:11,480 - Well Dirty Harry's always been arguing with the mayor, he's always been fighting bureaucracy, 492 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,710 and I guess in real life, I'm fighting bureaucracy too. 493 00:37:15,710 --> 00:37:23,050 - That kind of concern for community comes off in his filmmaking, because he is a man 494 00:37:23,050 --> 00:37:35,250 who is really honestly concerned with what's going on. 495 00:37:35,250 --> 00:37:39,970 - Pale Rider is definitely almost a biblical figure that comes in. 496 00:37:39,970 --> 00:37:46,080 The answer to a prayer of a community that needed some relief, that was being tread upon 497 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,080 by villainous beings. 498 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:56,190 - Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil. 499 00:37:56,190 --> 00:38:00,240 But I am afraid. 500 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:04,280 Thou art with me. 501 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:12,380 Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. 502 00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:13,829 But we need a miracle. 503 00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:19,190 - I'm not terribly objective about why I'm drawn to anything. 504 00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:27,240 I guess I like fantasy, or I like the what ifs, or what have you, and stories that approach 505 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:28,550 things from a different way. 506 00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:30,930 - I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, come and see. 507 00:38:30,930 --> 00:38:37,430 And I looked, and behold, a pale horse, and his name that sat on him was Death. 508 00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:53,089 And hell followed with him. 509 00:38:53,089 --> 00:39:00,270 - We didn't know whether he was a human being or a ghost of a human being, but somehow, 510 00:39:00,270 --> 00:39:07,040 he was calling upon the conscience of the community. 511 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,760 - You. 512 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,490 You! 513 00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:22,240 - He did organize the community, and he had assistance within the mortal beings of the 514 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:29,100 community to stand up for themselves and fight for their own rights. 515 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:31,660 - Preacher? 516 00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:34,220 Preacher? 517 00:39:34,220 --> 00:39:47,040 We all love you, preacher. 518 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:52,170 Thank you. 519 00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:58,450 - I've been drawn a lot of times towards community and my work, I work a lot of times with the 520 00:39:58,450 --> 00:40:04,350 same people, or people not always over and over, but a lot of times I revert back to 521 00:40:04,350 --> 00:40:06,620 people I've worked with before. 522 00:40:06,620 --> 00:40:13,300 And that's because there's a certain family feeling, there's a certain comfort zone like 523 00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:15,680 a family when you walk on the set with those people. 524 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,520 You know those people know you, they know your work standards, and they know what you 525 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,720 want and what you don't want without having to explain it, without having to start from 526 00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:24,930 scratch. 527 00:40:24,930 --> 00:40:32,110 - Clint has taken all the B.S. out of making films, and I like his approach to films, and 528 00:40:32,110 --> 00:40:35,140 he works fast, he makes decisions fast. 529 00:40:35,140 --> 00:40:40,420 - There's new people involved in the show, he knows their name, and he addresses them 530 00:40:40,420 --> 00:40:44,830 by their name, and there's never a "hey you" or anything like that. 531 00:40:44,830 --> 00:40:50,010 - There's a great loyalty that he has to people who do a good job. 532 00:40:50,010 --> 00:40:54,540 There's a faithfulness in wanting to get them back on his next show. 533 00:40:54,540 --> 00:40:59,400 - He's comfortable with people, and because of that, it's kinda loose on the set. 534 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,070 But everybody knows that when we're shooting, there isn't time to sit around, because on 535 00:41:03,070 --> 00:41:04,820 his sets, he's moving. 536 00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:08,570 The shot comes up and that shot's down and he's into the next setup, and you gotta be 537 00:41:08,570 --> 00:41:13,090 there, and you gotta be available, and you gotta have your stuff ready. 538 00:41:13,090 --> 00:41:17,340 - The first time that I showed up to work, there were all these people running back and 539 00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:21,730 forth, and the thing that struck me about it was what happens a lot of times to people 540 00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:28,120 who are stars is they have to generate a certain kind of aura around them. 541 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:34,540 And so consequently there's a great deal of sort of placating every whim or gesture that 542 00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:38,940 somebody has, and you just, your eye would naturally go to that person because they need 543 00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:41,090 to always be noticed. 544 00:41:41,090 --> 00:41:46,650 And the thing that struck me about Clint was, here was this person who had no insecurity 545 00:41:46,650 --> 00:41:53,280 or need to be the center of attention, and at the same time very quietly issuing directives 546 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,060 to everybody, letting people do their job. 547 00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:58,570 - You even remembered the brand. 548 00:41:58,570 --> 00:42:03,620 - Bad whiskey, bad sex, and bad men I never forget. 549 00:42:03,620 --> 00:42:07,510 - You didn't talk dirty like that when we were married. 550 00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:11,830 - Always, only you were never there to hear it. 551 00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:14,050 Look Tom, I'm working. 552 00:42:14,050 --> 00:42:19,430 The thing that's remarkable about Clint is that his technique, whatever you might call 553 00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:22,090 it, his gift, is totally seamless. 554 00:42:22,090 --> 00:42:23,090 You have no idea. 555 00:42:23,090 --> 00:42:25,779 I mean, he is just that character. 556 00:42:25,779 --> 00:42:28,619 - Swede, say something charming to the man. 557 00:42:28,619 --> 00:42:33,800 - I'm gonna rip your head off and shit down your neck. 558 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,190 - So you see, Grungy Highway, we ain't got no use for you no more. 559 00:42:38,190 --> 00:42:39,980 - Hit the road, Jack. 560 00:42:39,980 --> 00:42:55,490 - And don't you come back ♪ No more, no more, no more, no more, no more ♪ 561 00:42:55,490 --> 00:43:00,150 - Pick your chin up. 562 00:43:00,150 --> 00:43:01,320 Higher. 563 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:10,210 Now get your ass out on that street, ladies, right this second. 564 00:43:10,210 --> 00:43:16,730 - Clint has the capability of being as tough and as difficult, and as irascible, as all 565 00:43:16,730 --> 00:43:24,660 the characters that he's played, and at the same time, be able to have a kind of gentle, 566 00:43:24,660 --> 00:43:36,580 boyish, soft, tender quality that makes him totally lovable. 567 00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:42,950 So, it's very easy to, you know, fall madly in love with him. 568 00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:45,630 As I'm sure a lot of women do. 569 00:43:45,630 --> 00:43:48,280 - Tell me something. 570 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:55,329 What did you want out of our marriage? 571 00:43:55,329 --> 00:44:01,590 - Well, you talked once about an avocado ranch, about buying a house with a barbecue in the 572 00:44:01,590 --> 00:44:02,590 back. 573 00:44:02,590 --> 00:44:07,610 But then you volunteered for every goddamn war that came down the pipe. 574 00:44:07,610 --> 00:44:08,610 Oh. 575 00:44:08,610 --> 00:44:09,610 Goddammit. 576 00:44:09,610 --> 00:44:11,860 - What's the matter? 577 00:44:11,860 --> 00:44:16,020 - How could I be so stupid? 578 00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:17,920 - The hell you talking about? 579 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,852 - You bastard, you son of a bitch, you changed tactics on me, didn't you? 580 00:44:19,852 --> 00:44:22,131 - What the fuck are you talking about? 581 00:44:22,131 --> 00:44:23,770 - Gave up the old frontal assault and tried to out-goddamn-flank me, well I am onto you, 582 00:44:23,770 --> 00:44:28,470 Highway, and I want you out of here right now. 583 00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:33,760 You'll hear people say certain things about how he directs or what kind of a director 584 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,992 he is, or so forth and so on. 585 00:44:35,992 --> 00:44:43,840 And I found that he seems to suit himself to whatever the particular project is. 586 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:50,119 - When we did the movie Bird, he called me and he really wanted to make it very authentic. 587 00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:57,540 We got an actor, Forrest Whitaker, that looked like Bird, and I taught Forrest how to play 588 00:44:57,540 --> 00:44:58,730 these Bird solos. 589 00:44:58,730 --> 00:45:03,310 - I had a pretty good knowledge of jazz. 590 00:45:03,310 --> 00:45:08,040 But what I learned working on the part with Charlie Parker was light years away from where 591 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,810 I was in the beginning. 592 00:45:12,810 --> 00:45:19,270 When Clint was talking about the music, in the first actual meeting I had with him, it 593 00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:26,700 was so evident, his love for the music, the time, what he contributed, I mean it was exciting, 594 00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:30,270 because he was very excited about it. 595 00:45:30,270 --> 00:45:41,640 - Charlie Parker was a brilliant person with musically, and he was partly responsible for 596 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:46,530 a whole new style of playing that is still in effect today. 597 00:45:46,530 --> 00:45:53,730 And but yet who refused to ration life out over a normal period of time, he just decided 598 00:45:53,730 --> 00:45:54,730 he had to self-destruct. 599 00:45:54,730 --> 00:46:07,640 - I was 15, and I woke up feeling more pain than I've ever felt. 600 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,390 I didn't know why 'til somebody told me that I was strung out. 601 00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:15,510 Somebody had to tell me that. 602 00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:23,880 You know, I always thought that if I hadn't asked, then I wouldn't be. 603 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,951 He allows you a great deal of freedom to rest in that environment that he creates, because 604 00:46:28,951 --> 00:46:32,420 the people that work with him have worked with him for a while, they understand him 605 00:46:32,420 --> 00:46:35,040 too, and so there's no niches. 606 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:42,940 It was the smoothest and not emotionally easy because of the character himself, but just 607 00:46:42,940 --> 00:46:49,240 mechanically easy as far as working on a set I've ever experienced. 608 00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:57,650 And he allows you to live in the way you approach and carry a part, and he watches very closely 609 00:46:57,650 --> 00:47:11,520 because he does understand that, but he tries to guide you in a direction that you understand. 610 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:18,100 - Clint is a jazz fan, and in jazz there's a great deal of improvisation, where you just 611 00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:21,940 take a melody and a chorus and you improvise. 612 00:47:21,940 --> 00:47:25,860 And he is like that with filming. 613 00:47:25,860 --> 00:47:35,170 You know, having an actor have a script and not tell him "do it this way, do it that way," 614 00:47:35,170 --> 00:47:40,180 see what the actor can come up with on his own. 615 00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:46,090 - You want to play like bird, you gotta shoot shit like bird? 616 00:47:46,090 --> 00:47:48,160 Is that what you thought? 617 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:53,970 Is that what they told you? 618 00:47:53,970 --> 00:47:55,910 - I remember. 619 00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:56,910 - No. 620 00:47:56,910 --> 00:47:57,910 No! 621 00:47:57,910 --> 00:48:01,720 It don't help, man. 622 00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:04,619 It don't help. 623 00:48:04,619 --> 00:48:08,300 - Clint has a very rare relationship in Hollywood today. 624 00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:12,580 There's an interesting statistic in William Goldman's book, and I think that book was 625 00:48:12,580 --> 00:48:21,540 written in 1982, it lists the top 10 box office people of each year, and if you look back 626 00:48:21,540 --> 00:48:31,090 over a 15 year period, Clint Eastwood appeared each year for 12 of the 15 years. 627 00:48:31,090 --> 00:48:37,190 I would think it would be a pretty safe bet to think that pictures like Honkeytonk Man 628 00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:43,360 and Bronco Billy and Bird and White Hunter Black Heart would not have been made if they 629 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,980 did not have the clout of Clint Eastwood behind them. 630 00:48:45,980 --> 00:48:49,761 - You're willing to forget about all of us and let this whole goddamn thing go down the 631 00:48:49,761 --> 00:48:50,761 drain. 632 00:48:50,761 --> 00:48:53,590 - You're wrong, kid. 633 00:48:53,590 --> 00:48:58,320 It's not a crime to kill an elephant. 634 00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,600 It's bigger than all that. 635 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:07,410 It's a sin to kill an elephant. 636 00:49:07,410 --> 00:49:10,609 Do you understand? 637 00:49:10,609 --> 00:49:12,570 It's a sin. 638 00:49:12,570 --> 00:49:17,270 It's the only sin that you can buy a license and go out and commit. 639 00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:21,310 That's why I want to do it before I do anything else in this world. 640 00:49:21,310 --> 00:49:23,600 Do you understand me? 641 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,890 Of course you don't. 642 00:49:25,890 --> 00:49:27,210 How could you? 643 00:49:27,210 --> 00:49:29,020 I don't understand myself. 644 00:49:29,020 --> 00:49:33,510 - The idea John Huston kinda depicted to me, though I never knew the man, kinda depicted 645 00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:37,460 to be the ultimate in film directors, he was one of the few film directors who had managed 646 00:49:37,460 --> 00:49:45,250 to span a lot of generations, even right up to the last film he did. 647 00:49:45,250 --> 00:49:47,360 - No. 648 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:55,810 You were right, Pete. 649 00:49:55,810 --> 00:50:22,859 The ending's all wrong. 650 00:50:22,859 --> 00:50:29,280 - The first time I saw the character of John Wilson sit in his director's chair and crumble, 651 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:39,890 I went my god, Mount Rushmore has just fallen, and I thought this is an interesting place 652 00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:46,950 for Clint Eastwood to be at this time, not only in his career but in his own personal 653 00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:50,369 life. 654 00:50:50,369 --> 00:50:59,330 - He's managed to make a career for himself out of being a certain type of actor. 655 00:50:59,330 --> 00:51:02,560 Kind of a macho character. 656 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,319 And we expect that from him. 657 00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:09,670 - I always thought that it was a little dangerous to be the kind of... 658 00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:14,500 To try to be the kind of person that some of his characters have been. 659 00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:20,290 That's why to me it's so exciting that Clint is now destroying that very image that he 660 00:51:20,290 --> 00:51:32,860 created in the '70s and '80s, because it is an image that is not real. 661 00:51:32,860 --> 00:51:34,000 - Go ahead. 662 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,190 Make my day. 663 00:51:36,190 --> 00:51:41,850 I guess all of us who have been in an action genre film have shot nameless people to the 664 00:51:41,850 --> 00:51:46,830 point where you start to wonder about it after a while, and you wonder what value that has 665 00:51:46,830 --> 00:51:48,680 to society, if any. 666 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:56,109 - How long's it been since you fired a gun at a man, Will? 667 00:51:56,109 --> 00:51:58,130 Nine, 10 years? 668 00:51:58,130 --> 00:51:59,130 - 11. 669 00:51:59,130 --> 00:52:01,330 I liked the morality of this particular script. 670 00:52:01,330 --> 00:52:07,600 It seemed to sum up the morality of a long chain of western films and adventure genre 671 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:13,850 films that I had been in, where you start having a film that had a little bit of... 672 00:52:13,850 --> 00:52:23,700 That tried to not demythologicalize, if there is such a word, of the West, but also the 673 00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:28,390 killing is not really beautiful and it's not really romantic. 674 00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:33,200 - Unlike his other characters, older characters like the Dirty Harrys and all that, he never 675 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:38,540 showed the insides as much as he does it with William Munny. 676 00:52:38,540 --> 00:52:40,960 - She knew me back then. 677 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,960 She knew what a no good son of a bitch I was. 678 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,870 She just ain't allowing that I've changed. 679 00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:53,090 She don't realize I ain't like that no more. 680 00:52:53,090 --> 00:52:55,560 - Well, you know, Will-- 681 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,990 - I'm saying that Claudia, she straightened me up. 682 00:52:59,990 --> 00:53:02,890 Cleared me of drinking whiskey and all. 683 00:53:02,890 --> 00:53:07,000 And just 'cause we're going on this kill and that don't mean I'm gonna go back to being 684 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,050 the way I was. 685 00:53:09,050 --> 00:53:11,610 I just need the money. 686 00:53:11,610 --> 00:53:15,720 - With Clint we didn't rehearse prior to the film. 687 00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:18,230 We... 688 00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:23,720 What I would say blocked the scene in terms of know where you were going, what you were 689 00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:29,490 gonna, the props you were gonna handle, and most of that is for the camera operator so 690 00:53:29,490 --> 00:53:31,090 that he's not surprised. 691 00:53:31,090 --> 00:53:37,440 And then pretty much, you're kinda left to your own devices. 692 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:45,440 Which is kind of real fun filmmaking, because you're not really sure what's gonna happen, 693 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,970 nor are the other actors. 694 00:53:47,970 --> 00:53:52,920 And many times out of that comes this sense of it happening right in front of your eyes. 695 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:58,960 Let me tell ya, come the spring, Skinny don't have those ponies, I'm gonna come looking 696 00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,960 for you. 697 00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:03,580 - You ain't even gonna whip 'em? 698 00:54:03,580 --> 00:54:06,359 - Well I fined them instead, Alice. 699 00:54:06,359 --> 00:54:09,180 - For what they've done? 700 00:54:09,180 --> 00:54:14,130 Skinny gets some ponies and that's it? 701 00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:17,670 That ain't fair, Little Bill. 702 00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:19,790 That ain't fair! 703 00:54:19,790 --> 00:54:25,140 - Ain't we seen enough blood for one night, huh? 704 00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:27,430 - He's watching. 705 00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:34,710 He'll create the environment for the actors to do their work, and only if the soup needs 706 00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:41,300 a stir does he step in and stir the pot a couple of times, not too much, and he stands 707 00:54:41,300 --> 00:54:44,710 back and allows the broth to thicken. 708 00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:47,100 - Both the last two, huh? 709 00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:48,250 - [Man] Yeah. 710 00:54:48,250 --> 00:54:50,900 - He loves this business, otherwise he wouldn't be in it. 711 00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:56,340 He likes the challenge, he likes working on new projects, he likes working with actors, 712 00:54:56,340 --> 00:55:01,040 I mean he's an actor, and he knows what their problems are. 713 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:08,860 - In the silence of the man comes the courage to create silences in his movies, places were 714 00:55:08,860 --> 00:55:19,010 there's a lot of openness for interpretation, depending on whose eyes are looking at it. 715 00:55:19,010 --> 00:55:26,550 - You'd be William Munny out of Missouri. 716 00:55:26,550 --> 00:55:29,360 Killer of women and children. 717 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,500 - That's right. 718 00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:36,850 I've killed women and children. 719 00:55:36,850 --> 00:55:41,000 Killed just about everything that walks or crawls at one time or another. 720 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,510 And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill. 721 00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:53,800 That may not be the last western I ever do, or the last film I ever do that has some sort 722 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,950 of a violent act in it, but it was an important one for me to tell at this time, and if it 723 00:55:58,950 --> 00:56:06,310 was the last western for me, it would be the perfect last western for me, because it... 724 00:56:06,310 --> 00:56:11,230 Because I felt very strongly about the morality of this particular play. 725 00:56:11,230 --> 00:56:15,300 - You better bury Ned right. 726 00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:23,430 You better not cut up, nor otherwise harm no whores. 727 00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:34,020 Or I'll come back and kill every one of you sons of bitches. 728 00:56:34,020 --> 00:56:40,190 I know I feel certain comforts about the things that I've done, and probably some discomforts. 729 00:56:40,190 --> 00:56:45,599 I probably feel there's certain things I haven't done yet, but most people feel that way, and 730 00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:50,280 the main thing is is to keep trying at it, keeping shooting at it. 731 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:55,370 It's not like trying to do all you can or trying to rush to the end, but just having 732 00:56:55,370 --> 00:58:00,190 an inner goal to kind of live up to.65254

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