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- Okay, action.
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- [Man] Clint Eastwood is a true filmmaker,
that's all he wants to do and he does it well,
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and he doesn't make publicity, he doesn't
make deals, he makes movies.
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- [Man] Clint Eastwood is a workaholic.
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After every picture he talks about going skiing,
and he talks about going back and resting
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in Carmel, and that lasts for about 15 nanoseconds,
and then we're talking about the next project.
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- [Man] He really had faith in his objective,
faith in himself, despite the odds, and the
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odds were tremendous.
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He did it, he did it, he got to the top, and
he deservedly belongs there.
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- I have this sort of feeling, and I guess
it was my father who stated it, he says you
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either progress or decay, he used to say.
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Well, I always took that to heart.
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Heard the script for A Fistful of Dollars,
and I read that it was a translation of Yojimbo,
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one of my favorite Kurosawa films.
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So I thought, what a wild opportunity, here's
fate kinda taking me towards this project.
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It's gonna be done for a nickel and a dime
in Europe.
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It'll probably never play anywhere, but it's
a chance to go to Europe.
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So I said yeah, I'll do it, I'll do that job.
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And I had this opportunity to create this
character with Sergio Leone that was a very
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mythical type character, a very mysterious
kind of character.
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It was done with a lot of style, and the picture
I guess cost around $200,000, maybe a little
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more, in 1964, which I guess even in those
days would be considered a low budget.
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- The movie was a traditional western, and
I think it established Clint as the quiet,
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methodic type of actor, where a lot of action
and very little dialogue.
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In fact, there was more dialogue written,
and between Leone and Clint, they decided
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that he doesn't have to say that, it'll imply
itself.
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- The language barrier was a little bit difficult
at time, Sergio knew one word in English,
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he knew goodbye, and I knew arrivederci, so
we were kinda started off even.
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I don't think it's nice, you laughing.
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You see my mule don't like people laughing.
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Gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him.
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So if you'll apologize like I know you're
going to, I might convince him that you really
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didn't mean it.
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It was such an unusual idea, to play somebody
who wasn't heroic at all.
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To do a lot of things that were completely
unacceptable by those standards in American
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history.
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There was the Hayes office rules back in the,
dating back into the '30s where you couldn't
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have certain things, you couldn't have a person
shot in the same scene, because you couldn't
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tie up a person with a gun and a person being
hit, and the Italians didn't know anything
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about that.
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Sergio didn't know anything about that, and
I didn't tell him, because I figured here
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was a chance to break all those rules and
forge out with a whole new look.
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- When he went to Europe, he played a ruthless
mercenary.
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He was very quiet, very cold, very steel-like,
and he did it with a kind of confidence and
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courage that generally the two qualities,
virility and vulnerability, which I think
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catapulted him to stardom.
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- When he did the spaghetti westerns, David
Picker was the head of United Artists, and
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United Artists distributed the pictures in
the United States, and he came into the office
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and he at that time said "this Clint Eastwood,
major star, "you're gonna be getting $750,000
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a picture for him."
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And at that time, that was an unheard of number.
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That was the perception by the industry.
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He was instantly recognized off of the Italian
westerns as being a movie star.
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- I remember my father when I called him and
told him I wanted to be...
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I was gonna try to be an actor, and study
it, he just kept saying "don't do that, don't
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do that, "the stuff that dreams are made out
of, "and you'll never have any chance," something
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like that.
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I was born in San Francisco during the Depression,
1930.
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It was a bad time for a young couple to start
out, but they did anyway, and so we traveled
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to quite a few cities in the San Fernando
and Sacramento Valleys.
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Middle class family, one sister, it was nice
because I had terrific parents, I was very
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very lucky.
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And everybody was struggling in the country
at that particular time.
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I did go to live my grandmother at one time
because both of my parents worked during the
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war.
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It was pretty low existence out there, and
I did get a great appreciation of rural life.
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I had a cousin who had some horses, so I rode
quite a bit, and wasn't too bad at that.
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And I guess I had the same fantasies everyone
else had.
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Because I was alone a good portion of the
time, I remember, and you kinda live within
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your imagination an awful lot.
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I never went to college 'til after the military,
so I didn't go to Korea, I was one of the
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fortune ones.
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While I was going to college I got an opportunity
to test for a motion picture contract, and
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I got the job, it was a deal where you study
acting and maybe you'll be something, maybe
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you won't.
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They didn't invest a lot of money, ut the
studio invested some money.
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In my case, I had about a $75 a week deal.
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But it seemed like a lot of money at that
time.
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It seemed like a lot of money, and I had been
going to school and working several jobs at
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the same time, several jobs as I was putting
myself through college on the GI bill, and
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I was married at the time and struggling,
it was a very very tough, tough time.
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So this was a steady job I could try.
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Universal was going through an odd period
in that time in history where they made mostly
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B movies, but they were films nonetheless,
and it was a nice period.
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I used to go down to sets all the time and
watch people shoot if I wasn't acting in the
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picture.
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And the studio systems were slowly coming
to an end at that particular time, and television
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was just starting to come on real strong.
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And so they dropped my option, like they did
most of the other people there, eventually.
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They dropped it when my option came up, and
I was left out in the cold.
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I had an agent and I kind of bounced around
from one interview to another.
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It was a very bleak period, I did get a couple
small parts, and then in between I'd have
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to work, I worked digging a swimming pools.
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Because it didn't feel right just trying to
collect unemployment or what have you.
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And plus I couldn't live on that.
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♪ Rolling, rolling, rolling ♪ ♪ Rolling,
rolling, rolling ♪ Finally there was a rumor
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CBS was doing an hour western series.
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They wanted a lead about 37 years old, and
I thought that's another one I'll miss.
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But then it turned out there were two leads
for the series.
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I tested the next day, and I got one of them.
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And then I was legitimately employed, like
most people are.
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I had a job that would go week in, week out
throughout the year, and that job did go for
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over seven years.
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Might as well all relax, looks like we're
here to stay.
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It was a great period, because I was learning
a lot, it was an hour show, a fairly high
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budget show and we could afford names, and
I worked with a lot of people I'd grown up
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watching on the screen, so it was a great
learning ground, I worked for a lot of directors
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too.
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Teddy Post, who I had watched teach cinema
classes.
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- He hung around the camera a lot, and I being
a teacher loved to kind of illustrate what
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it is I'm attempting to do with a scene.
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- Mr. Yates?
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- [Teddy] And he would listen very carefully.
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- Look, I've had just about all I can handle
before lunch.
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- Aww, that's a shame.
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And here I was gonna offer you a drink.
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- Of what, poison?
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- 10 year old straight whiskey.
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Anyway, I'm truly sorry, Mr. Yates.
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And I apologize with all my heart.
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- Well, that's all right.
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- Well come on then.
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- Well, I should be getting back to the herd.
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10 year old whiskey, you say?
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The character of Rowdy was fun to play, but
I was always frustrated about not being able
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to play some more charactery parts, more adult
theme or instead of playing just the dumb
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sidekick.
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After The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly came
out and started doing business, American companies
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were starting to come around and think that
well, maybe Eastwood wasn't just gonna be
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an overnight Italian flash or what have you.
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I was offered a film called Hang 'Em High.
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Delved into pros and cons of capital punishment,
and had a little bit more substance to it
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than some of the characters I'd been playing.
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And it was an opportunity to come back to
the states and play in some films here in
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America.
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It seemed the timely thing to do.
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- I worked with Clint maybe 16 to 20 Rawhides,
and he wanted me to work with him on this
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first American project.
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There was a lot of resistance from the United
Artists, because they felt that they wanted
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to get somebody who had done westerns on a
large scale screen, and they could trust.
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He very considerately told them all that this
is the guy he was gonna go with, and he went
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with me.
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And it was a smash hit.
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- But he gives that appearance of, you know,
being a very easygoing fellow.
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Well, he is easygoing, but at the same time,
he is a filmmaker.
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I knew from the very beginning, and that's
why he formed his company very early, that
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this was a man who was unlimited in terms
of being an actor, a producer, and a director.
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In Carmel, where Clint lives, there's a creek
called the Malpaso Creek, and it's that simple,
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he took the name of that creek for the name
of his company.
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- Put your pants on, Chief.
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The thing that attracted me to that particular
project was that it was a fish out of water
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kind of guy, he was a guy who works as a sheriff
in a rural community in Arizona, going to
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New York and being displaced, and it reminded
me kinda of the old pictures that you used
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to see in the '30s and '40s a lot, maybe not
the same category as Mr. Smith Goes to Washington,
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but people who were definitely out of their
element placed in another environment and
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how they operated.
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- That's $2.95, including the luggage.
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- Tell me, how many stores are there named
Bloomingdale's in this town?
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- One, why?
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- We passed it twice.
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- It's still $2.95, including the luggage.
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- Yeah.
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Well, here's $3, including the tip.
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- You'll need your horse, cowboy.
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- Working with Don Siegel turned out to be
terrific.
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I got to watch a guy who really could do a
lot with his time, and manage what he had
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to work with very well.
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Two Mules for Sister Sara was a nice script,
it was recently written by Budd Boetticher
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some years ago, and it was written for a Mexican
nun traveling in Mexico, and Universal had
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made a film called Sweet Charity with Shirley
MacLaine, so they wanted to do it with Shirley
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MacLaine.
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So we had to make the nun an Irish woman who
was sympathetic to causes, who was adrift
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in Mexico, and you have this gringo played
by me who's adrift in Mexico, and we had changed
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things quite a bit.
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- Is this small package of dynamite powerful
enough?
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- Not if you put it down here at the base.
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You put it up high on those bracers, pow.
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- Oh no.
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If I climb that trestle, I'll fall.
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- A fine psalm-singing hypocrite you are.
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The French are gonna slaughter a whole outfit
of your Juaristas, and you're the only one
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who can help them.
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And you won't climb one lousy stinkin' trestle.
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- I've been with Clint about 22 years now.
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The first film was Two Mules for Sister Sara,
I was hired as a stunt coordinator to make
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sure the action turned out all right and to
kinda keep Clint on tow and not let him do
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too much, because he's a physical guy and
likes to do his own thing.
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- I think, you know, you enjoy doing the things
that you're good at, and he is good at it,
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and it also gives a sense of realism.
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The trouble we have sometimes is kinda keeping
him down to where he doesn't do too much.
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- A real blue belly.
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There's only one way to tell if he's a yank.
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- How's that?
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- Take off his pants.
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Yanks have tails.
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- Doris, stop that nonsense.
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- In The Beguiled, Don Siegel and I could
work on the aspect of not having things in
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black and white, and showing the grays in
between, because The Beguiled was simply a
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fact of what the illness of war did to all
the people on the periphery.
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Where's he?
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- He's presumed dead.
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- There's no men around here at all then,
huh?
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Wow.
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- I'll try not to dictate your personal behavior,
Corporal.
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- No.
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- [Clint] In Beguiled, the hero dies.
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- You lying son of a bitch!
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- To have him go off happily ever after, minus
his leg, minus his, you know, with several
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of the...
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The little girl and a love interest Hollywood
bowtie ending just seemed a little bit much
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for me at that particular project.
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French reviewers are throwing great accolades,
and even some American reviewers are starting
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to think, well, this guy Eastwood is at least
not afraid to try something different.
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- KRML, Dave Garver speaking.
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- [Woman] Hello.
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- Hi, what'll it be?
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- [Woman] Play Misty for me.
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- I liked the story very much.
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So now I had to go to the head of Universal,
Lou Wassima, and convince him that I should
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do this picture, and that I would also like
to direct the picture, which is kind of an
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interesting situation, because at that time,
this particular time in 1970, a lot of actors
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weren't directing.
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I was very surprised when Mr. Wassima said
"yeah, go ahead.
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"We're not gonna pay you for it, "you just
do it for free."
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But I wanted to direct so desperately, I thought
yeah, that's a great idea.
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- The first day of filming was the scene in
the bar where Evelyn meets Dave.
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The bartender is played by Don Siegel, who
had directed Clint in many films, and you
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could just see this wonderful feeling Don
had, sort of like a mother hen letting his
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chick loose, and Clint was very certain about
what he wanted.
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He'd made it very clear in the pre-production
work that, he told me, he said "you know,
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I don't want any makeup."
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I of course died inside, but I didn't say
anything.
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He said "I don't want that universal "shot
out of a cannon look."
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- I always hate that look that you get on
television, you know, when you see television
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shows, where everybody has the exact same
complexion, everybody looks like they're...
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Kind of masked over, without any natural characteristics
of their faces.
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- I said to myself, a nice green salad with
roford and tomatoes, baked potato and...
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Stop.
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- What's going on here?
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- I'm sorry.
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Why don't you keep the stuff, I think I've
lost my appetite.
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- Hey, hang on a minute.
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I'm just trying to tell you something, that's
all.
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- I don't understand, should I go, should
I stay, what do you want?
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- I'm trying to tell you that there's a telephone,
and I pick it up and I dial it, and you answer
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and I say "hey, what are you doing?"
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- And I say "I'll be right over."
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- Fine, next time why don't we do it that
way?
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- Okay.
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He created an atmosphere on the set, and he
does this on all his films, I've heard from
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other actors who worked with him.
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He makes you feel secure.
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It's a very safe environment.
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You feel that you can risk things, and you
can really not be afraid to try things, as
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an actor.
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- What's going on?
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- Don't tell me he was asleep!
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- What else at this hour of the morning?
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- Oh, I'm surprised his conscience was that
clear!
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- What do you want, Evelyn?
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- What do you want, Evelyn, what do you want?
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Do I have to want something?
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Can't I just come over?
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Or is it inconvenient?
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- Now wait just--
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- Could it be I've made a boo boo.
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Could it be that someone has been sleeping
in Papa's bed?!
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- Wait a minute, dammit.
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- Come out, come out, wherever you are!
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I thought...
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- I just don't know what to say to you.
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- I'm sorry I mistrusted you, I should've
known you'd never do anything to spoil it.
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- To spoil what?!
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I made the film in five and a half weeks,
and for probably a direct cost, I think it
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was round $720 or 40,000, somewhere in that
region.
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Which was very reasonable, even by those days'
standards.
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And so they weren't in too deep and the picture
went out, and it played decently, and it had
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a certain longevity, it seemed to keep recurring
and coming back and being re-released, and
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so it was kind of a new phase of my life.
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Halt!
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Dirty Harry was a detective who had had a
lot of problems who has been very unorthodox.
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Who didn't like some of the bureaucratic nightmare
that most cities are faced with nowadays.
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I know what you're thinking.
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Did he fire six shots or only five?
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Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement
I've kinda lost track myself.
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But being this is a 44 magnum, the most powerful
handgun in the world, and would blow your
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head clean off, you've got to ask yourself
one question, do I feel lucky?
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Well do ya, punk?
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Men could say yeah, I mean I like that, that
sort of justice of somebody who's very individualistic,
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and women would fantasize that that's the
kind of guy they'd like to have, or men would
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fantasize that's the kind of guy I'd like
to be, I'd like to be able to handle problems
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like that, there's a great romance in being
able to have the right saying at the right
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time.
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- I don't want any more trouble like you had
last year in the Philmore District.
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Understand?
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That's my policy.
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- Yeah, well, when an adult male is chasing
a female with intent to commit rape, I shoot
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the bastard, that's my policy.
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- Intent?
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How did you establish that?
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- Well when a naked man is chasing a woman
through an alley with a butcher knife and
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a hard on, I figure he isn't out collecting
for the Red Cross.
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- He had that special charisma that made him
a motion picture star, and Dirty Harry changed
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everything and he went from stardom to superstardom.
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- [Clint] The High Plains Drifter, it was
the first western I'd ever directed.
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I liked the allegorical aspect of it.
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- He wanted the look of a new town, a town
being built, so that's why most of the lumber
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was raw, and he wanted to avoid the look of
the back plot western streets that we used
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so often, and with a good background, and
I think Clint wants them to look very real.
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- [Clint] Here's a town where they allowed
the sheriff to be whipped to death.
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Now somebody is coming back to remind them
of their guilt.
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- I played the part of the sheriff.
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I asked Clint later, I said, "am I your brother,
or is this like a reincarnation?"
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He said "well," he said "just kinda let the
audience "make up their own mind."
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- An ambivalent statement, sometimes it allows
the audience to think along with you, it allows
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the audience to participate in the process.
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There's something nice about the participation,
not just having a story dumped in their lap.
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- Who are you?!
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- The
stranger drifts off, and the people never
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know whether the stranger is really a relative
of the sheriff, which is the way it was originally
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written, or whether he is some angel of death
that is sent down to torment them all.
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- Glory to God in the highest, and on Earth,
peace and good will towards men.
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- Amen.
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- I sat down and wrote an original screenplay,
and gave it to him on a Friday.
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And on Monday, Clint said he would do it.
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So I said it was not for sale unless I could
direct it.
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Which was rather...
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You know, rather audacious of me at the time,
considering that I had no background in film
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whatever.
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And I think it kinda sparked something in
Clint.
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Clint admires risk takers.
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- I thought you were the heat.
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- Do I look like heat?
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- You look like one crazy son of a bitch for
a preacher, I'll tell you that.
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Who's that guy back there in the wheat?
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- Old friend.
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- With friends like that, you don't need enemies.
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- Knowing Clint's reputation for liking to
move quickly, I had to be absolutely buttoned
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up on every shot, and I knew that this was
the make or break moment because of the...
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When Clint came up to the set, it was his
first visit to the set, if the crew stopped
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working for one second and started saying
hello to Clint and shaking hands and buzzing
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around him and so forth, I was finished.
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If the crew kept working, then I knew we were
off to a good start.
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And when he finally came up, nobody even looked
up.
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They just kept working away, almost ignoring
Clint, and we got the shot and Clint was all
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smiles ear to ear, because he knew what had
happened too.
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I recall when we were preparing the movie,
I said to Jeff, I said "Jeff, you've got one
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job to do "on this picture," and he said "what's
that?"
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I said "you've got to make Clint laugh."
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I said "nobody has seen Clint laugh in a movie."
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- Smell that?
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- I don't smell anything.
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- It smells like shit.
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Oh.
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Raccoon shit.
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- Raccoon shit.
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Hang your hand out the window and let the
rain get at it.
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- Like a little on your shirt?
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- No, get outta here.
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Just remember not to pick your teeth.
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- Oh god.
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- The story was really written so that Clint's
character would predominate, but Clint so
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much enjoyed Jeff's performance and really
let Jeff steal a lot of the scenes, but very
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happily so.
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- [Clint] Howdy.
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- Howdy.
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- Name's Josey Wales.
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The thing I liked about The Outlaw Josey Wales
as a story is that it was one of the first
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stories I'd ever read, personally, that had
been submitted in script form, where Indians
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were treated with really quite a good sense
of humor.
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- Howdy.
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- Howdy.
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- There something wrong?
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- Nope.
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- I guess you were right.
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I ain't that old after all.
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- I loved the plotline of the story, not only
the man searching for a life after devastating
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experiences during the war, but also a person
who believed at that time that human beings
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could exist together, there wasn't the necessity
of eradicating each other for the sake of
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pleasure or envy.
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- What'll you have!
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- I'm looking for Josey Wales.
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- That'd be me.
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- You're wanted, Wales.
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- I reckon I'm right popular.
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You a bounty hunter?
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- Man's got to do something for a living these
days.
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- Dying ain't much of a living, boy.
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And the Outlaw Josey Wales has got a whole
community that starts building around him,
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even as fast as he tries to get away from
it, it just keeps expanding.
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I don't know why I'm always attracted to characters
that are in search of family, or in search
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of some sort of unity.
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I guess it's because I appreciate and have
a great sympathy for people, families that
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are close together.
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- Ladies and gentlemen!
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Boys and girls!
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We welcome you this evening to the greatest,
the most authentic wild west show in America!
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So hang on to your hats and boots, or your
loved one's hand.
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Now let's take you back to a time when the
cowboys and Indians roamed our great land.
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- Bronco Billy becomes another aspect in my
life that I've always attracted to.
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Something about a dreamer, especially in this
cynical age that we live in.
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He dreamed of being a hero in the way that
Roy or Hoppy or Gene was in the old days,
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but those heroes are not there anymore, it's
different now.
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And that's what made him good, is he's totally
out of sync with time.
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But he manages to make it work anyway, because
he dreams that hard.
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- You people are crazy.
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You could all go to jail for the rest of your
lives for robbing a train.
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- Appreciate your concern, Miss Lily.
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And you may be right about us being crazy.
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But we're at the end of our rope.
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- You're living in a dream world.
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There are no more cowboys and Indians, that's
in the past.
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- Miss Lily, I was raised in a one-room tenement
in New Jersey.
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As a kid I never even saw a cowboy, much less
the wide open spaces.
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Except when I could scrounge up a quarter
for a picture show.
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I was a shoe salesman 'til I was 31 years
old.
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Deep down in my heart, I always wanted to
be a cowboy.
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One day I laid down my shoehorn and swore
I'd never live in the city again.
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You only live once.
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Gotta give it your best shot.
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- It's Uncle Red.
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Bubba?
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Bubba?
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- Is he dead?
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- Yeah.
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Dead drunk.
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- Oh Bubba, what in the world?
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- Honkeytonk Man was a picture that I enjoyed
doing not only because it was a picture that
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took place during the Great Depression, and
it hit on a lot of things that I had seen
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when I grew up, but it was also the first
of several times where I've visited the subject
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matter of losers or people who didn't want
to become winners, and it was an opportunity
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to work with my son, who happened to be the
right age at that time.
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- Don't you think you might need some help
with your drinking?
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- No, I do quite well all by myself.
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- Aren't there doctors that--
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- Look, Hoss.
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If you want to be my sidekick and chauffer,
that's fine, but if I want a nursemaid and
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a wife to bitch at me, I'll go out and get
myself one.
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Understand?
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I think it was one of my better efforts as
a film.
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It wasn't a terribly successful film.
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It's again another film where the hero dies,
and that's not always the most appealing thing
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for an audience.
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♪ Throw your arms around this honkeytonk
man ♪ ♪ Throw your arms around this honkeytonk
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man ♪ ♪ And we'll get through this night
the best way we can ♪ A lot of people start
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looking at me, from the Bronco Billy, Honkeytonk
Man days, started looking at me differently
447
00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:43,200
as a director.
448
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:49,590
They saw me as somebody who would do other
subjects other than subjects that I was commonly
449
00:33:49,590 --> 00:34:00,180
known for, genre films that I had started
out with in the '60s.
450
00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:05,320
What I like about Tightrope is it was taking
a detective story, a genre I've played in,
451
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:13,880
but a detective who had seen so much seedy
elements in his job that he all of a sudden
452
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,120
started losing himself.
453
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,970
He started losing his perspective.
454
00:34:16,970 --> 00:34:25,589
Did she ever mention anything about anybody
using handcuffs on her?
455
00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:29,300
- I think so.
456
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:33,120
She liked to get pretty kinky.
457
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,760
- Remember who it might've been?
458
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,929
- I think it was a cop.
459
00:34:38,929 --> 00:34:41,200
Who knows?
460
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:47,180
Maybe it was you.
461
00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:56,820
- He has some really truthful moments in his
eyes, and his stillness is beautiful and painful
462
00:34:56,820 --> 00:34:58,740
to watch.
463
00:34:58,740 --> 00:35:02,140
It was courageous, I think, for him to do
a part like that.
464
00:35:02,140 --> 00:35:09,290
Clint Eastwood invited me to join that production
because the woman has qualities that I probably
465
00:35:09,290 --> 00:35:10,340
have.
466
00:35:10,340 --> 00:35:15,530
She is strong, she's also vulnerable, she
seems a bit of a loner.
467
00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:22,160
So I didn't think that my character and his
character ought to make love in the film.
468
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,670
He was totally receptive to that, and they
didn't.
469
00:35:24,670 --> 00:35:25,670
- I was wondering what you'd be like.
470
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:26,670
- Why the sudden interest?
471
00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:27,670
- Well I was wondering if you came alone.
472
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:28,670
- What else were you wondering?
473
00:35:28,670 --> 00:35:29,950
- You really want to know?
474
00:35:29,950 --> 00:35:31,250
- Yeah.
475
00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:58,140
- What it would be like to lick the sweat
off your body.
476
00:35:58,140 --> 00:36:04,920
- Do you...
477
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:10,730
Do you always say exactly what's on your mind?
478
00:36:10,730 --> 00:36:12,950
- You don't like it?
479
00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:16,280
- Could be a little more subtle.
480
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,220
- What I said?
481
00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:21,130
- More the way you said it.
482
00:36:21,130 --> 00:36:24,020
- How would you like me to say it?
483
00:36:24,020 --> 00:36:28,520
- As if you're not saying it to somebody every
night.
484
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,380
- That's a good enough shot.
485
00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:37,000
- I've known Clint, I don't know, 20 years
probably, and I did live up in Carmel for
486
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:45,260
a while, Pebble Beach, and I know the kind
of interaction he has with the community there.
487
00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:52,870
He was the mayor recently of Carmel, which
is this kind of cute town on the ocean there,
488
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:58,510
it's inundated with tourists, and he was very
concerned that the town stayed the way it
489
00:36:58,510 --> 00:37:05,830
was, that it didn't fall into the grasp of
people who wanted to develop things that most
490
00:37:05,830 --> 00:37:07,240
of the citizens didn't want.
491
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:11,480
- Well Dirty Harry's always been arguing with
the mayor, he's always been fighting bureaucracy,
492
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,710
and I guess in real life, I'm fighting bureaucracy
too.
493
00:37:15,710 --> 00:37:23,050
- That kind of concern for community comes
off in his filmmaking, because he is a man
494
00:37:23,050 --> 00:37:35,250
who is really honestly concerned with what's
going on.
495
00:37:35,250 --> 00:37:39,970
- Pale Rider is definitely almost a biblical
figure that comes in.
496
00:37:39,970 --> 00:37:46,080
The answer to a prayer of a community that
needed some relief, that was being tread upon
497
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,080
by villainous beings.
498
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:56,190
- Yea, though I walk through the valley of
the shadow of death, I shall fear no evil.
499
00:37:56,190 --> 00:38:00,240
But I am afraid.
500
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:04,280
Thou art with me.
501
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:12,380
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.
502
00:38:12,380 --> 00:38:13,829
But we need a miracle.
503
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:19,190
- I'm not terribly objective about why I'm
drawn to anything.
504
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:27,240
I guess I like fantasy, or I like the what
ifs, or what have you, and stories that approach
505
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:28,550
things from a different way.
506
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:30,930
- I heard the voice of the fourth beast say,
come and see.
507
00:38:30,930 --> 00:38:37,430
And I looked, and behold, a pale horse, and
his name that sat on him was Death.
508
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:53,089
And hell followed with him.
509
00:38:53,089 --> 00:39:00,270
- We didn't know whether he was a human being
or a ghost of a human being, but somehow,
510
00:39:00,270 --> 00:39:07,040
he was calling upon the conscience of the
community.
511
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,760
- You.
512
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,490
You!
513
00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:22,240
- He did organize the community, and he had
assistance within the mortal beings of the
514
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:29,100
community to stand up for themselves and fight
for their own rights.
515
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:31,660
- Preacher?
516
00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:34,220
Preacher?
517
00:39:34,220 --> 00:39:47,040
We all love you, preacher.
518
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:52,170
Thank you.
519
00:39:52,170 --> 00:39:58,450
- I've been drawn a lot of times towards community
and my work, I work a lot of times with the
520
00:39:58,450 --> 00:40:04,350
same people, or people not always over and
over, but a lot of times I revert back to
521
00:40:04,350 --> 00:40:06,620
people I've worked with before.
522
00:40:06,620 --> 00:40:13,300
And that's because there's a certain family
feeling, there's a certain comfort zone like
523
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:15,680
a family when you walk on the set with those
people.
524
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,520
You know those people know you, they know
your work standards, and they know what you
525
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,720
want and what you don't want without having
to explain it, without having to start from
526
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:24,930
scratch.
527
00:40:24,930 --> 00:40:32,110
- Clint has taken all the B.S. out of making
films, and I like his approach to films, and
528
00:40:32,110 --> 00:40:35,140
he works fast, he makes decisions fast.
529
00:40:35,140 --> 00:40:40,420
- There's new people involved in the show,
he knows their name, and he addresses them
530
00:40:40,420 --> 00:40:44,830
by their name, and there's never a "hey you"
or anything like that.
531
00:40:44,830 --> 00:40:50,010
- There's a great loyalty that he has to people
who do a good job.
532
00:40:50,010 --> 00:40:54,540
There's a faithfulness in wanting to get them
back on his next show.
533
00:40:54,540 --> 00:40:59,400
- He's comfortable with people, and because
of that, it's kinda loose on the set.
534
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,070
But everybody knows that when we're shooting,
there isn't time to sit around, because on
535
00:41:03,070 --> 00:41:04,820
his sets, he's moving.
536
00:41:04,820 --> 00:41:08,570
The shot comes up and that shot's down and
he's into the next setup, and you gotta be
537
00:41:08,570 --> 00:41:13,090
there, and you gotta be available, and you
gotta have your stuff ready.
538
00:41:13,090 --> 00:41:17,340
- The first time that I showed up to work,
there were all these people running back and
539
00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:21,730
forth, and the thing that struck me about
it was what happens a lot of times to people
540
00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:28,120
who are stars is they have to generate a certain
kind of aura around them.
541
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:34,540
And so consequently there's a great deal of
sort of placating every whim or gesture that
542
00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:38,940
somebody has, and you just, your eye would
naturally go to that person because they need
543
00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:41,090
to always be noticed.
544
00:41:41,090 --> 00:41:46,650
And the thing that struck me about Clint was,
here was this person who had no insecurity
545
00:41:46,650 --> 00:41:53,280
or need to be the center of attention, and
at the same time very quietly issuing directives
546
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,060
to everybody, letting people do their job.
547
00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:58,570
- You even remembered the brand.
548
00:41:58,570 --> 00:42:03,620
- Bad whiskey, bad sex, and bad men I never
forget.
549
00:42:03,620 --> 00:42:07,510
- You didn't talk dirty like that when we
were married.
550
00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:11,830
- Always, only you were never there to hear
it.
551
00:42:11,830 --> 00:42:14,050
Look Tom, I'm working.
552
00:42:14,050 --> 00:42:19,430
The thing that's remarkable about Clint is
that his technique, whatever you might call
553
00:42:19,430 --> 00:42:22,090
it, his gift, is totally seamless.
554
00:42:22,090 --> 00:42:23,090
You have no idea.
555
00:42:23,090 --> 00:42:25,779
I mean, he is just that character.
556
00:42:25,779 --> 00:42:28,619
- Swede, say something charming to the man.
557
00:42:28,619 --> 00:42:33,800
- I'm gonna rip your head off and shit down
your neck.
558
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,190
- So you see, Grungy Highway, we ain't got
no use for you no more.
559
00:42:38,190 --> 00:42:39,980
- Hit the road, Jack.
560
00:42:39,980 --> 00:42:55,490
- And don't you come back ♪ No more, no
more, no more, no more, no more ♪
561
00:42:55,490 --> 00:43:00,150
- Pick your chin up.
562
00:43:00,150 --> 00:43:01,320
Higher.
563
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:10,210
Now get your ass out on that street, ladies,
right this second.
564
00:43:10,210 --> 00:43:16,730
- Clint has the capability of being as tough
and as difficult, and as irascible, as all
565
00:43:16,730 --> 00:43:24,660
the characters that he's played, and at the
same time, be able to have a kind of gentle,
566
00:43:24,660 --> 00:43:36,580
boyish, soft, tender quality that makes him
totally lovable.
567
00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:42,950
So, it's very easy to, you know, fall madly
in love with him.
568
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:45,630
As I'm sure a lot of women do.
569
00:43:45,630 --> 00:43:48,280
- Tell me something.
570
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:55,329
What did you want out of our marriage?
571
00:43:55,329 --> 00:44:01,590
- Well, you talked once about an avocado ranch,
about buying a house with a barbecue in the
572
00:44:01,590 --> 00:44:02,590
back.
573
00:44:02,590 --> 00:44:07,610
But then you volunteered for every goddamn
war that came down the pipe.
574
00:44:07,610 --> 00:44:08,610
Oh.
575
00:44:08,610 --> 00:44:09,610
Goddammit.
576
00:44:09,610 --> 00:44:11,860
- What's the matter?
577
00:44:11,860 --> 00:44:16,020
- How could I be so stupid?
578
00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:17,920
- The hell you talking about?
579
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,852
- You bastard, you son of a bitch, you changed
tactics on me, didn't you?
580
00:44:19,852 --> 00:44:22,131
- What the fuck are you talking about?
581
00:44:22,131 --> 00:44:23,770
- Gave up the old frontal assault and tried
to out-goddamn-flank me, well I am onto you,
582
00:44:23,770 --> 00:44:28,470
Highway, and I want you out of here right
now.
583
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:33,760
You'll hear people say certain things about
how he directs or what kind of a director
584
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,992
he is, or so forth and so on.
585
00:44:35,992 --> 00:44:43,840
And I found that he seems to suit himself
to whatever the particular project is.
586
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:50,119
- When we did the movie Bird, he called me
and he really wanted to make it very authentic.
587
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:57,540
We got an actor, Forrest Whitaker, that looked
like Bird, and I taught Forrest how to play
588
00:44:57,540 --> 00:44:58,730
these Bird solos.
589
00:44:58,730 --> 00:45:03,310
- I had a pretty good knowledge of jazz.
590
00:45:03,310 --> 00:45:08,040
But what I learned working on the part with
Charlie Parker was light years away from where
591
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,810
I was in the beginning.
592
00:45:12,810 --> 00:45:19,270
When Clint was talking about the music, in
the first actual meeting I had with him, it
593
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:26,700
was so evident, his love for the music, the
time, what he contributed, I mean it was exciting,
594
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:30,270
because he was very excited about it.
595
00:45:30,270 --> 00:45:41,640
- Charlie Parker was a brilliant person with
musically, and he was partly responsible for
596
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:46,530
a whole new style of playing that is still
in effect today.
597
00:45:46,530 --> 00:45:53,730
And but yet who refused to ration life out
over a normal period of time, he just decided
598
00:45:53,730 --> 00:45:54,730
he had to self-destruct.
599
00:45:54,730 --> 00:46:07,640
- I was 15, and I woke up feeling more pain
than I've ever felt.
600
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,390
I didn't know why 'til somebody told me that
I was strung out.
601
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:15,510
Somebody had to tell me that.
602
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:23,880
You know, I always thought that if I hadn't
asked, then I wouldn't be.
603
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,951
He allows you a great deal of freedom to rest
in that environment that he creates, because
604
00:46:28,951 --> 00:46:32,420
the people that work with him have worked
with him for a while, they understand him
605
00:46:32,420 --> 00:46:35,040
too, and so there's no niches.
606
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:42,940
It was the smoothest and not emotionally easy
because of the character himself, but just
607
00:46:42,940 --> 00:46:49,240
mechanically easy as far as working on a set
I've ever experienced.
608
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:57,650
And he allows you to live in the way you approach
and carry a part, and he watches very closely
609
00:46:57,650 --> 00:47:11,520
because he does understand that, but he tries
to guide you in a direction that you understand.
610
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:18,100
- Clint is a jazz fan, and in jazz there's
a great deal of improvisation, where you just
611
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:21,940
take a melody and a chorus and you improvise.
612
00:47:21,940 --> 00:47:25,860
And he is like that with filming.
613
00:47:25,860 --> 00:47:35,170
You know, having an actor have a script and
not tell him "do it this way, do it that way,"
614
00:47:35,170 --> 00:47:40,180
see what the actor can come up with on his
own.
615
00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:46,090
- You want to play like bird, you gotta shoot
shit like bird?
616
00:47:46,090 --> 00:47:48,160
Is that what you thought?
617
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:53,970
Is that what they told you?
618
00:47:53,970 --> 00:47:55,910
- I remember.
619
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:56,910
- No.
620
00:47:56,910 --> 00:47:57,910
No!
621
00:47:57,910 --> 00:48:01,720
It don't help, man.
622
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:04,619
It don't help.
623
00:48:04,619 --> 00:48:08,300
- Clint has a very rare relationship in Hollywood
today.
624
00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:12,580
There's an interesting statistic in William
Goldman's book, and I think that book was
625
00:48:12,580 --> 00:48:21,540
written in 1982, it lists the top 10 box office
people of each year, and if you look back
626
00:48:21,540 --> 00:48:31,090
over a 15 year period, Clint Eastwood appeared
each year for 12 of the 15 years.
627
00:48:31,090 --> 00:48:37,190
I would think it would be a pretty safe bet
to think that pictures like Honkeytonk Man
628
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:43,360
and Bronco Billy and Bird and White Hunter
Black Heart would not have been made if they
629
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,980
did not have the clout of Clint Eastwood behind
them.
630
00:48:45,980 --> 00:48:49,761
- You're willing to forget about all of us
and let this whole goddamn thing go down the
631
00:48:49,761 --> 00:48:50,761
drain.
632
00:48:50,761 --> 00:48:53,590
- You're wrong, kid.
633
00:48:53,590 --> 00:48:58,320
It's not a crime to kill an elephant.
634
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,600
It's bigger than all that.
635
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:07,410
It's a sin to kill an elephant.
636
00:49:07,410 --> 00:49:10,609
Do you understand?
637
00:49:10,609 --> 00:49:12,570
It's a sin.
638
00:49:12,570 --> 00:49:17,270
It's the only sin that you can buy a license
and go out and commit.
639
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:21,310
That's why I want to do it before I do anything
else in this world.
640
00:49:21,310 --> 00:49:23,600
Do you understand me?
641
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,890
Of course you don't.
642
00:49:25,890 --> 00:49:27,210
How could you?
643
00:49:27,210 --> 00:49:29,020
I don't understand myself.
644
00:49:29,020 --> 00:49:33,510
- The idea John Huston kinda depicted to me,
though I never knew the man, kinda depicted
645
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:37,460
to be the ultimate in film directors, he was
one of the few film directors who had managed
646
00:49:37,460 --> 00:49:45,250
to span a lot of generations, even right up
to the last film he did.
647
00:49:45,250 --> 00:49:47,360
- No.
648
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:55,810
You were right, Pete.
649
00:49:55,810 --> 00:50:22,859
The ending's all wrong.
650
00:50:22,859 --> 00:50:29,280
- The first time I saw the character of John
Wilson sit in his director's chair and crumble,
651
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:39,890
I went my god, Mount Rushmore has just fallen,
and I thought this is an interesting place
652
00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:46,950
for Clint Eastwood to be at this time, not
only in his career but in his own personal
653
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:50,369
life.
654
00:50:50,369 --> 00:50:59,330
- He's managed to make a career for himself
out of being a certain type of actor.
655
00:50:59,330 --> 00:51:02,560
Kind of a macho character.
656
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,319
And we expect that from him.
657
00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:09,670
- I always thought that it was a little dangerous
to be the kind of...
658
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:14,500
To try to be the kind of person that some
of his characters have been.
659
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:20,290
That's why to me it's so exciting that Clint
is now destroying that very image that he
660
00:51:20,290 --> 00:51:32,860
created in the '70s and '80s, because it is
an image that is not real.
661
00:51:32,860 --> 00:51:34,000
- Go ahead.
662
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,190
Make my day.
663
00:51:36,190 --> 00:51:41,850
I guess all of us who have been in an action
genre film have shot nameless people to the
664
00:51:41,850 --> 00:51:46,830
point where you start to wonder about it after
a while, and you wonder what value that has
665
00:51:46,830 --> 00:51:48,680
to society, if any.
666
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:56,109
- How long's it been since you fired a gun
at a man, Will?
667
00:51:56,109 --> 00:51:58,130
Nine, 10 years?
668
00:51:58,130 --> 00:51:59,130
- 11.
669
00:51:59,130 --> 00:52:01,330
I liked the morality of this particular script.
670
00:52:01,330 --> 00:52:07,600
It seemed to sum up the morality of a long
chain of western films and adventure genre
671
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:13,850
films that I had been in, where you start
having a film that had a little bit of...
672
00:52:13,850 --> 00:52:23,700
That tried to not demythologicalize, if there
is such a word, of the West, but also the
673
00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:28,390
killing is not really beautiful and it's not
really romantic.
674
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:33,200
- Unlike his other characters, older characters
like the Dirty Harrys and all that, he never
675
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:38,540
showed the insides as much as he does it with
William Munny.
676
00:52:38,540 --> 00:52:40,960
- She knew me back then.
677
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,960
She knew what a no good son of a bitch I was.
678
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,870
She just ain't allowing that I've changed.
679
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:53,090
She don't realize I ain't like that no more.
680
00:52:53,090 --> 00:52:55,560
- Well, you know, Will--
681
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,990
- I'm saying that Claudia, she straightened
me up.
682
00:52:59,990 --> 00:53:02,890
Cleared me of drinking whiskey and all.
683
00:53:02,890 --> 00:53:07,000
And just 'cause we're going on this kill and
that don't mean I'm gonna go back to being
684
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,050
the way I was.
685
00:53:09,050 --> 00:53:11,610
I just need the money.
686
00:53:11,610 --> 00:53:15,720
- With Clint we didn't rehearse prior to the
film.
687
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:18,230
We...
688
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:23,720
What I would say blocked the scene in terms
of know where you were going, what you were
689
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:29,490
gonna, the props you were gonna handle, and
most of that is for the camera operator so
690
00:53:29,490 --> 00:53:31,090
that he's not surprised.
691
00:53:31,090 --> 00:53:37,440
And then pretty much, you're kinda left to
your own devices.
692
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:45,440
Which is kind of real fun filmmaking, because
you're not really sure what's gonna happen,
693
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,970
nor are the other actors.
694
00:53:47,970 --> 00:53:52,920
And many times out of that comes this sense
of it happening right in front of your eyes.
695
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:58,960
Let me tell ya, come the spring, Skinny don't
have those ponies, I'm gonna come looking
696
00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,960
for you.
697
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:03,580
- You ain't even gonna whip 'em?
698
00:54:03,580 --> 00:54:06,359
- Well I fined them instead, Alice.
699
00:54:06,359 --> 00:54:09,180
- For what they've done?
700
00:54:09,180 --> 00:54:14,130
Skinny gets some ponies and that's it?
701
00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:17,670
That ain't fair, Little Bill.
702
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:19,790
That ain't fair!
703
00:54:19,790 --> 00:54:25,140
- Ain't we seen enough blood for one night,
huh?
704
00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:27,430
- He's watching.
705
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:34,710
He'll create the environment for the actors
to do their work, and only if the soup needs
706
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:41,300
a stir does he step in and stir the pot a
couple of times, not too much, and he stands
707
00:54:41,300 --> 00:54:44,710
back and allows the broth to thicken.
708
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:47,100
- Both the last two, huh?
709
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:48,250
- [Man] Yeah.
710
00:54:48,250 --> 00:54:50,900
- He loves this business, otherwise he wouldn't
be in it.
711
00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:56,340
He likes the challenge, he likes working on
new projects, he likes working with actors,
712
00:54:56,340 --> 00:55:01,040
I mean he's an actor, and he knows what their
problems are.
713
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:08,860
- In the silence of the man comes the courage
to create silences in his movies, places were
714
00:55:08,860 --> 00:55:19,010
there's a lot of openness for interpretation,
depending on whose eyes are looking at it.
715
00:55:19,010 --> 00:55:26,550
- You'd be William Munny out of Missouri.
716
00:55:26,550 --> 00:55:29,360
Killer of women and children.
717
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,500
- That's right.
718
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:36,850
I've killed women and children.
719
00:55:36,850 --> 00:55:41,000
Killed just about everything that walks or
crawls at one time or another.
720
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,510
And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill.
721
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:53,800
That may not be the last western I ever do,
or the last film I ever do that has some sort
722
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,950
of a violent act in it, but it was an important
one for me to tell at this time, and if it
723
00:55:58,950 --> 00:56:06,310
was the last western for me, it would be the
perfect last western for me, because it...
724
00:56:06,310 --> 00:56:11,230
Because I felt very strongly about the morality
of this particular play.
725
00:56:11,230 --> 00:56:15,300
- You better bury Ned right.
726
00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:23,430
You better not cut up, nor otherwise harm
no whores.
727
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:34,020
Or I'll come back and kill every one of you
sons of bitches.
728
00:56:34,020 --> 00:56:40,190
I know I feel certain comforts about the things
that I've done, and probably some discomforts.
729
00:56:40,190 --> 00:56:45,599
I probably feel there's certain things I haven't
done yet, but most people feel that way, and
730
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:50,280
the main thing is is to keep trying at it,
keeping shooting at it.
731
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:55,370
It's not like trying to do all you can or
trying to rush to the end, but just having
732
00:56:55,370 --> 00:58:00,190
an inner goal to kind of live up to.65254
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