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Since I got here, you're my third contempt of court.
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First one was a contested traffic ticket.
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The guy cursed at the judge. The second one was a lawyer.
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- What'd he do?
- He cursed at the judge.
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You're my first reporter.
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I'm Will. I'd shake your hand...
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I know who you are.
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So the traffic ticket, he was just here for a night.
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But the lawyer was here for a weekend.
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Three nights,
and you could tell he was starting to go a little...
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You know, it affected him.
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You're gonna be locked in a cage now,
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and it's not a natural thing.
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Go ahead.
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That's yours over here.
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- You got toiletries?
- I'm sorry?
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You didn't bring toiletries?
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Uh, no, I didn't.
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I'll bring you toothpaste and a brush.
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I can bring you a book from the library if you want.
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- You might get the whole weekend.
- Sure, thanks.
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You'll be fine.
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You fish.
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I'm sorry?
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You're a fisherman.
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Yeah. No. Not in a long time.
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That's a nice fish.
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- Yeah.
- Eight pounds.
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You know, I don't really remember.
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And that's your father there next to you?
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- Yeah.
- That's a wholesome picture.
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Looks like it came with the frame.
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- Yeah.
- And that's your wife?
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Yeah, her name is MacKenzie.
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- Whew, she's a knockout.
- She is.
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- It's okay if I say that, right?
- Sure.
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And those are your, what? Your friends, your colleagues?
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Yeah, they're some of the people I work with.
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We work close together.
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- You have to explain it to me one more time.
- Really?
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'Cause every time you say it,
it sounds like you're in here voluntarily.
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I promise you, I'm not.
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But you can walk out any time you want.
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No, I can't. I can only walk out
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if I reveal the identity of a source.
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- You want to read your book.
- I don't want to be rude.
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You didn't ask me what I was in for. I appreciate that.
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Domestic battery.
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Nine women on the jury.
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My PD was a woman, so she wasn't exactly my champion.
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The prosecutor was a woman. The judge was a woman.
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I mean, is that even constitutional?
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The PD wanted me to plea... Six months.
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But I wanted to fight it... Two years.
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That wasn't your first offense, though.
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How do you know?
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You wouldn't have gotten two years for
domestic battery if it was your first...
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It was my third. Strike three.
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Oh, are you judging me now?
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'Cause a judge just did that. I don't need it.
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- No.
- Yeah, you are.
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I have an idea.
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Tell me the name of the source.
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I didn't make a pledge or anything.
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I'll tell it to them on the condition they let us both go.
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It's a hell of a plan.
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Or I could just shake the name out of you.
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Stand up.
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I want you to see that I got four inches on you
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and you're giving up 30 pounds. I'm not your wife.
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Raise your hands above your hips
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and I'll knock you the fuck into next week.
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Your father was a drunk, wasn't he?
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You aren't a consumer, you're a citizen.
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You aren't an audience, you're an activist.
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You aren't a viewer, you're ACN.
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You are ACN.
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Which one of you...
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It's as offensive as I thought it
was gonna be when I heard about it.
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- Offensive to whom?
- Me. And him.
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And Will and Sloan and everyone who works here and you.
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We are ACN.
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It's a slogan. It doesn't mean anything.
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First, I wouldn't be relieved that our
new slogan doesn't mean anything.
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- I meant...
- But it isn't a slogan.
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It's a statement of our new direction.
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We're gonna cover the conversation
because this is just the first one.
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Next one's gonna show citizen journalists
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filing stories from the Coffee Bean.
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- Don?
- It looks like urine.
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It doesn't. You're just complaining for the sake of it.
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The best graphics house in the UK
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was paid $700,000 to build that spot.
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I don't mean the animation. U-R-A-C-N.
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Our brains are trained to see groups of letters as a word
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and visually that group of letters looks like urine.
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Maybe if we separate the U and the R.
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Maybe, but the best you can hope for
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is something with the gravitas of a vanity license plate.
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- Maybe we should ask people to vote.
- After all, they are ACN.
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- You know, Mac...
- Young people know when they're being patronized.
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Everybody knows when they're being patronized.
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I've been hearing this for 52 days.
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Because in 52 days,
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I've put three Twitter monitors on our set.
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Passing weather systems are reported
like al-Qaeda sleeper cells.
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And a total of 84 air minutes have
been spent on the mayor of Toronto
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while zero minutes have been spent on the mayor of Detroit
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whose city is about two minutes away from bankruptcy.
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Also in that 52 days, we've gone from fourth
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to third in households and second in the demo.
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In seven weeks, the average age of our audience
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has dropped three years.
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And we did all that while still managing to cover
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a military takeover in Egypt
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and most recently, a pretty big scandal involving the NSA.
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We've got two reporters at the Moscow Airport right now.
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Two. So can you do me a favor and not worry
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that the world's most benign promo
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is a threat to democracy?
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- Sure.
- You?
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- Can I have a second?
- Yeah.
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So, the Princeton story. The website.
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There is an epidemic
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of campus sexual assaults in this country.
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It's a perfectly legitimate story.
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In fact, it's an important one,
so what's your fucking problem?
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I agree.
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I just don't know how to do the story.
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- I don't understand.
- I don't know how to do it. I'm looking for some guidance.
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You interview the student with the website.
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You interview one of the guys who's been accused.
Why is it complicated?
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Well, it's complicated for a lot of reasons,
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and one of them is that Pruit wants them both in the studio.
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- He told you that?
- He called me.
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He shouldn't be speaking directly to you.
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And he shouldn't be making those decisions.
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But if that's what he wants, why don't you just do it?
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Well, like I said, I don't know how to.
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Bullshit.
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You do know how.
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And if you don't, I need to hire someone who does, man.
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Okay?
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Yeah.
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Anything else?
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No.
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Anything happen over the weekend I should know about?
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Not much.
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Dilma Rousseff pledged to speak with protestors.
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- The House voted down the Farm Bill.
- Yeah, I saw that.
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France is sending Syrian rebels 17.6 tons of medical aid.
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I'm sure that's going to get where it's supposed to go.
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A woman named Lilly M. Hart shot herself in the mouth
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on the steps in front of the Justice Department.
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We're not sure what she was protesting,
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but her bio had a lot of gun control advocacy in it.
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She was protesting guns by shooting herself?
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The FBI isn't releasing any information right now.
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- You mean DC Police.
- No, the FBI is handling it.
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- Why?
- They won't release that information either.
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Anything else?
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Kim and Kanye named their baby North.
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There's our top story.
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What was her name?
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North. North West.
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No, the woman who shot herself in front of the DOJ.
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Lilly Hart.
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Again, I don't know how...
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What?
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She wasn't protesting guns.
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They said it was an emergency. Is everything okay?
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Do we have attorney-client privilege, you and me?
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- I'm not your lawyer.
- What if you were?
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Then we would have that privilege.
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I'm hiring you right now on a $20 retainer.
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- Do I need to sign something?
- No. What's going on?
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I know the name of the source.
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I've known since the party after the Correspondents' Dinner.
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And the day before yesterday, she shot
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and killed herself on the steps outside the DOJ.
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The woman... She was the source?
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Yeah.
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Who else knows the name?
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Neal, obviously, Will, and I. That's it.
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- Not the DC Police?
- I think they must...
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Excuse me.
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Thank you.
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Lasenthal on the phone.
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You know what?
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Your husband is getting out of jail today.
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I was just chewed out for 10 minutes by Erin Andrews.
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- Why?
- She was accosted by paparazzi last night
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coming out of Man of Steel at the El Capitan in LA.
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Paparazzi were coming out of the El Capitan?
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- She...
- She was coming.
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She'd just seen the movie and
waiting for her were a pack of paparazzi.
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Got it. Why was she chewing you out?
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I'm the one here she knows the best.
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Didn't she have an affair with Will?
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It wasn't an affair. Neither of them were married.
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No, that didn't happen. Will's in jail at the moment.
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And none of this is the point.
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The paparazzi knew she was in there
because of our creepy stalker app.
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I'm coming to you as my superior,
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which I mean only in a sense of our organizational chart,
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and pleading with you to have what's his name...
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- Bree.
- Bree shut down the app.
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Mac's been fighting that battle for six weeks.
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- And what have you been doing?
- Just, you know, my job.
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Which should now include getting
the assassin's helper taken down.
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- I'm on it.
- When?
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Well, I'm in the middle of a tricky... Now.
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- Right now.
- There you go.
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Excuse me, Bree.
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Excuse me.
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Hey, easy.
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- I just wanted to talk to you about something.
- You are?
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He's Don Keefer, executive producer... You know who he is.
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- And you run our website until Neal Sampat's back.
- I wanted to...
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I'm senior editor of ACN Digital,
if you're going to be insulting.
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- Nobody wants to be insulting.
- I badly want to be insulting.
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Here's the thing... Sloan got a call from Erin Andrews...
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- You know Erin Andrews?
- Yes.
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Yowza. I want to get with that so bad.
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I'll pass that on.
I'm sure she'll want you to have her number.
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- Hey, fuck you.
- Yeah?
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- You can't talk to her like that, my friend.
- What's the problem here?
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Erin Andrews got stopped by paparazzi
last night coming out of the movies.
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- I know, we've got it up.
- Now we're in Peabody country.
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You're here to give me shit about the app again.
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Yes. Restraining Order. Scum Bottle Guide.
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- Whatever it's called.
- ACNgage.
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It should be called ACinvoluntary Engage.
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I'll bring that up at our next staff meeting.
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You guys like ACinvoluntary Engage?
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- No.
- It got voted down.
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Listen, no kidding around,
you need to disable the app until we can figure this out,
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- 'cause it's a little not what we do.
- What's not what you do?
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Giving deranged people with access to semiautomatic weapons
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the locations of their targets while simultaneously
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turning the rest of our brains into Wheatena.
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That app's driving a lot of traffic.
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I don't care if it's driving in the Grand Prix of Monaco.
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I need you to temporarily take it down.
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- Then permanently take it down.
- You need to speak to my boss.
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- He's your boss.
- I'm your boss.
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Lucas Pruit is my boss. I pitched him the app
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and he loved it, which is why we have it.
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This is a warmed-over version of the same app
Gawker had and took down five years ago.
250
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They still have a version of it, but this one's better.
251
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- Look...
- No, you look.
252
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We're all a little tired of being treated
253
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like we're not Neal Sampat.
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I like my app and it makes money,
255
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both of which are more than I can say for your 10:00 hour.
256
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So if you have a problem,
and I got a hunch you got more than a few,
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why don't you take it to Pruit?
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Beat him up.
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No, he's right.
260
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Yeah, he's... What?
261
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About the last thing he said. About the last thing you said.
262
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We haven't been very welcoming
263
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and in a weird way we've been blaming him for Neal.
264
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If Digital can help us, we should be supporting Digital.
265
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- That's right.
- Yeah.
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Come on the show and tell people about your app.
267
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Seriously?
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I'll ask MacKenzie for a block and I'll interview you.
269
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All right. Awesome.
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An associate producer will give you the details.
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- You should apologize.
- Sorry.
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- To him.
- Habit. Sorry.
273
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Were you serious about that phone number?
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Yeah, but I think you can do better.
275
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- For real?
- I'm on it.
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Okay, so when you vivisect this guy
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and especially his app, Pruit's not gonna be happy.
278
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I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
279
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You usually blow up that bridge when you come to it.
280
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Would you mind giving me some space?
I have a show to prepare.
281
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Sure, but this is my office.
282
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Yes, it is. Sorry.
283
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Hang on.
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There's an undergrad at Princeton who started a website
285
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for students who have been raped,
but who don't have enough evidence
286
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for the police to take action.
287
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Victims can go onto the site either anonymously or not
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and name names and describe their experiences.
289
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Pruit wants the undergrad and one
of the accused in the studio.
290
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- That's a terrible idea.
- I know.
291
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- Do you have a better one?
- Don't do it?
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Do you have a better one where I get to keep my job?
293
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- Charlie's gonna back you.
- Charlie told me to do it.
294
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What's happening to him?
295
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I think you should consider letting me do the talking.
296
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At least at the top. We won't have much time with him
297
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and I want to ask him, obviously, the extent
298
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to which they've been keeping metadata,
299
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how much the agency learns from this kind of information,
300
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and in what ways the FISA reports have provided
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insufficient oversight of the NSA.
302
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I want to ask him at what point he decided
to declare war on the United States.
303
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So I think you should let me get the ball rolling.
304
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You and your whole generation's contempt for institutions.
305
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I'm two years younger than you.
306
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With your hair and your clothes and your music.
307
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Here it is. Here's the gate.
308
00:15:07,594 --> 00:15:08,643
You sure?
309
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It says departs for Havana at 11:55 PM.
310
00:15:12,015 --> 00:15:14,816
- Are you sure?
- We had a nine-hour flight from New York.
311
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I was brushing up on my Russian with my Russian phrase book,
312
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or Russkiy razgovornik,
while you were watching Star Wars on your iPad.
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Trek. Star Trek.
314
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Both excellent examples of genius,
315
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- but different in every imaginable...
- Yeah, shut up.
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- Good evening.
- Good evening.
317
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Then we'll speak in English.
318
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You're American press, yes?
319
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I have not seen Edward Snowden. I do not know where he is.
320
00:15:41,128 --> 00:15:42,878
That's all right. We just want to check in
321
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for the midnight flight to Havana.
322
00:15:44,548 --> 00:15:46,598
That's Aeroflot seven, departing 11:55?
323
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Yes. Margaret Jordan and James Humdrum.
324
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Harper.
325
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That guy's from ABC's Moscow bureau.
326
00:15:55,776 --> 00:15:58,393
And that's Reuters and that's Le Monde.
327
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He's going to Cuba. He's gonna be on this flight.
328
00:16:01,031 --> 00:16:03,148
I do not show reservation for Margaret Jordan.
329
00:16:03,233 --> 00:16:04,900
- Really?
- I'll try Humdrum.
330
00:16:04,902 --> 00:16:06,318
Harper. James Harper.
331
00:16:06,370 --> 00:16:09,955
The office bought our tickets while we were in the air.
332
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I do not show reservation for Harper.
333
00:16:12,326 --> 00:16:13,792
Would you mind checking again?
334
00:16:13,827 --> 00:16:15,660
What do you think will happen the second time?
335
00:16:17,498 --> 00:16:19,998
Would you ask her to check again?
336
00:16:20,050 --> 00:16:22,717
- Would you mind checking again?
- In Russian.
337
00:16:22,753 --> 00:16:25,754
I understood in English. And I have checked again.
338
00:16:25,756 --> 00:16:28,924
And lo and behold, got the same result.
339
00:16:28,976 --> 00:16:31,393
All right. Can we have two coach seats to Havana?
340
00:16:31,428 --> 00:16:33,261
- The flight is sold out.
- Of course it is.
341
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I'll call the office.
342
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Unless the office can build two seats and install them
343
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on the plane in the next four hours,
it's not gonna do any good.
344
00:16:44,691 --> 00:16:46,525
Excuse me. Do you speak English?
345
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- Agence France.
- You speak French. Great.
346
00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:51,363
- I speak English, too.
- Okay.
347
00:16:51,415 --> 00:16:55,116
'Cause when I said... It doesn't matter.
348
00:16:55,168 --> 00:16:58,370
I would like to buy your ticket
from you at a substantial markup.
349
00:16:58,422 --> 00:17:00,539
- How substantial?
- Twice what your office paid for it.
350
00:17:00,591 --> 00:17:02,624
You can catch the next flight and pocket the difference.
351
00:17:02,676 --> 00:17:04,676
- That's a good deal.
- Yes, it is.
352
00:17:04,711 --> 00:17:06,461
I don't have a ticket for the flight.
353
00:17:06,513 --> 00:17:08,129
- You don't?
- No.
354
00:17:08,131 --> 00:17:09,798
What are you doing here?
355
00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,767
I'm here to photograph Mr. Snowden.
356
00:17:12,803 --> 00:17:15,103
This is a very big story. You agree?
357
00:17:15,138 --> 00:17:17,138
I do.
358
00:17:17,190 --> 00:17:19,274
I do agree.
359
00:17:25,399 --> 00:17:27,649
We have to get on this flight.
360
00:17:30,704 --> 00:17:33,655
When did you decide you wanted to be a TV news anchor?
361
00:17:33,707 --> 00:17:35,707
Do you know how long this interview is gonna take?
362
00:17:35,742 --> 00:17:39,494
- You've got someplace else you're going?
- No.
363
00:17:39,496 --> 00:17:41,580
When did you decide you wanted to be a TV news anchor?
364
00:17:41,632 --> 00:17:44,332
I didn't. I was a prosecutor. Then I was a speechwriter.
365
00:17:44,334 --> 00:17:47,168
Then I was the legal correspondent
for my network and I got promoted.
366
00:17:47,220 --> 00:17:50,171
- You were a prosecutor?
- The Brooklyn DA's office.
367
00:17:50,257 --> 00:17:53,224
You aren't afraid you're gonna run into
some of the people you sent here?
368
00:17:53,260 --> 00:17:55,010
That's why I'm supposed to be in solitary.
369
00:17:55,012 --> 00:17:56,678
And you were what kind of writer?
370
00:17:56,730 --> 00:17:58,847
Speechwriter.
371
00:17:58,849 --> 00:18:00,899
What does that mean?
372
00:18:00,934 --> 00:18:03,602
I helped write speeches for the first President Bush.
373
00:18:03,654 --> 00:18:06,905
I worked on his campaign and when he won,
they brought me to the White House.
374
00:18:06,940 --> 00:18:09,858
No kidding? George H.W.?
375
00:18:09,910 --> 00:18:12,527
- Yeah.
- Did you ever meet him?
376
00:18:12,529 --> 00:18:14,412
Yeah.
377
00:18:14,448 --> 00:18:16,114
Ah. I liked him.
378
00:18:16,166 --> 00:18:19,284
He was an elite Harvard silver spoon and all that,
379
00:18:19,336 --> 00:18:20,702
but he didn't rub it in your face, you know?
380
00:18:20,754 --> 00:18:23,505
- He went to Yale.
- He didn't do that.
381
00:18:23,540 --> 00:18:25,423
He didn't make people feel stupid.
382
00:18:25,459 --> 00:18:27,709
- That's not what I was doing.
- What?
383
00:18:27,711 --> 00:18:30,378
You were just saying that to the fatheads,
384
00:18:30,430 --> 00:18:32,847
there's no difference between Yale and Harvard.
385
00:18:32,883 --> 00:18:35,050
But to the refined palate of the eastern elite,
386
00:18:35,102 --> 00:18:36,768
- the subtle nuances...
- Jesus, I'm from Nebraska!
387
00:18:36,803 --> 00:18:39,020
You still got that northeastern air of superiority.
388
00:18:39,056 --> 00:18:41,640
- I'm in jail!
- And even in here you still think you're better than me.
389
00:18:41,692 --> 00:18:45,393
You hit a woman, man. You don't set the bar very high.
390
00:18:45,395 --> 00:18:47,896
- Will.
- Yeah?
391
00:18:47,898 --> 00:18:50,482
- You got visitors.
- On a Monday?
392
00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,791
- I'll be outside the door.
- You look good.
393
00:18:59,826 --> 00:19:03,211
- Yeah, you say that every week.
- It's true every week.
394
00:19:03,246 --> 00:19:04,412
How you holding up?
395
00:19:04,464 --> 00:19:06,581
I'm good. What's this about?
396
00:19:06,633 --> 00:19:09,801
He's going to ask you a couple of
questions I've already approved.
397
00:19:09,836 --> 00:19:12,337
But if you need a minute, take a minute.
398
00:19:12,389 --> 00:19:14,756
- He'll step outside.
- What's going on?
399
00:19:14,808 --> 00:19:16,391
The day before yesterday, Saturday morning,
400
00:19:16,426 --> 00:19:18,927
a woman named Lilly Hart committed suicide
401
00:19:18,929 --> 00:19:22,180
by shooting herself in the head on the
steps of the Justice Department.
402
00:19:22,232 --> 00:19:24,065
Does the name Lilly Hart mean anything to you?
403
00:19:24,101 --> 00:19:25,100
That wasn't one of the questions we went over.
404
00:19:25,102 --> 00:19:27,435
- All right.
- Stick to the script.
405
00:19:27,437 --> 00:19:30,071
Lilly Hart worked for BCD.
406
00:19:30,107 --> 00:19:32,774
Her roommate and some of her friends
were trying to put the pieces together,
407
00:19:32,826 --> 00:19:36,027
trying to figure out why she killed
herself and so theatrically.
408
00:19:36,079 --> 00:19:38,663
- Mm-hmm.
- Her roommate starts going through her emails
409
00:19:38,699 --> 00:19:42,000
and then some files,
and she finds some things which are alarming enough
410
00:19:42,035 --> 00:19:46,287
for her to bring to the attention of
some agents who sweep the entire laptop.
411
00:19:47,874 --> 00:19:50,208
Will you confirm Lilly Hart as your source?
412
00:19:51,712 --> 00:19:53,128
No, sir.
413
00:19:54,631 --> 00:19:57,632
- Will you deny that she was your source?
- No, sir.
414
00:19:57,634 --> 00:20:00,101
- You're not under oath.
- I understand.
415
00:20:00,137 --> 00:20:02,020
Lilly Hart has no family.
416
00:20:02,055 --> 00:20:04,639
Both her parents died in a car crash years ago.
417
00:20:04,691 --> 00:20:06,274
She's single with no children.
418
00:20:06,309 --> 00:20:09,110
There's no one to protect anymore.
419
00:20:09,146 --> 00:20:11,396
Confirm the name,
420
00:20:11,448 --> 00:20:14,149
and I'll inform the judge that the government
421
00:20:14,201 --> 00:20:17,035
no longer needs your testimony
and has withdrawn their subpoena
422
00:20:17,070 --> 00:20:20,822
and you'll be having dinner with
your wife in your home tonight.
423
00:20:20,824 --> 00:20:22,957
Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm not allowed
424
00:20:22,993 --> 00:20:25,660
to reveal the name of a source without their permission.
425
00:20:25,712 --> 00:20:27,996
Well, that option was taken off the table
426
00:20:27,998 --> 00:20:30,832
when your source put a loaded Beretta 9mm Nano
427
00:20:30,834 --> 00:20:32,333
in her mouth and squeezed the trigger.
428
00:20:32,335 --> 00:20:34,669
Don't do that. Don't try the side door.
429
00:20:34,671 --> 00:20:37,672
Look, confirm that she's the source
and Neal comes home from Venezuela.
430
00:20:37,724 --> 00:20:39,174
We'll buy the ticket. First class.
431
00:20:39,176 --> 00:20:41,142
And you won't pursue criminal prosecution?
432
00:20:41,178 --> 00:20:43,728
We'll give him an ice cream cone.
433
00:20:43,764 --> 00:20:46,815
Will you confirm that Lilly Hart was your source?
434
00:20:48,151 --> 00:20:49,434
No, sir.
435
00:20:50,937 --> 00:20:53,488
- Will you deny it?
- No, sir.
436
00:20:56,276 --> 00:20:59,327
Neal would pummel me if I got him back
by giving up the name of a source.
437
00:20:59,362 --> 00:21:01,196
Did you think I was gonna consider a deal like this?
438
00:21:01,248 --> 00:21:03,248
I wrote down exactly what I thought you'd say
439
00:21:03,283 --> 00:21:05,366
and sealed it in this envelope.
440
00:21:24,187 --> 00:21:26,104
Can I speak to him?
441
00:21:26,139 --> 00:21:28,973
He's back in his cell.
442
00:21:29,025 --> 00:21:30,558
Mac.
443
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,894
When are they gonna be absolutely sure?
444
00:21:32,896 --> 00:21:34,696
What percent of certainty will it take?
445
00:21:34,731 --> 00:21:37,649
- I'm gonna find out.
- What if we switch places?
446
00:21:37,701 --> 00:21:40,652
- I have the exact same information Will has.
- Mac.
447
00:21:40,704 --> 00:21:44,122
What if you convinced them I was softer
and more likely to give up the name?
448
00:21:44,157 --> 00:21:45,490
- Are you?
- No.
449
00:21:45,542 --> 00:21:47,041
Just a second.
450
00:21:47,077 --> 00:21:49,127
- What if you told them that...
- Listen to me.
451
00:21:49,162 --> 00:21:51,079
'Cause here's your $20 worth.
452
00:21:51,131 --> 00:21:53,915
You don't tell anyone you know what Will knows.
453
00:21:53,967 --> 00:21:56,417
You want your friends to be subpoenaed and get sworn in?
454
00:21:56,469 --> 00:21:58,586
No. Come on in.
455
00:21:58,638 --> 00:22:01,339
Keep calling me. I want to hear from you once an hour.
456
00:22:01,391 --> 00:22:04,342
- What's going on?
- I need a block tonight. Five minutes, 4:30.
457
00:22:04,394 --> 00:22:06,344
- For what?
- I want to interview Bree Dorrit.
458
00:22:06,396 --> 00:22:09,731
Isn't that the temporary ACN Digital editor?
459
00:22:09,766 --> 00:22:12,600
- Yeah.
- Why do you want to interview someone who works for us?
460
00:22:12,652 --> 00:22:14,402
I want to discuss an app he has...
461
00:22:14,437 --> 00:22:17,772
We have called Human Flesh Hunter or something.
462
00:22:17,774 --> 00:22:19,607
I know I've missed some meetings,
463
00:22:19,659 --> 00:22:22,694
but we really don't have an app called Hunting Human Flesh?
464
00:22:22,746 --> 00:22:24,112
No. Maybe. I don't know.
465
00:22:24,164 --> 00:22:26,331
I don't like to do stories about us.
466
00:22:26,366 --> 00:22:28,533
I know, but this is about everyone.
467
00:22:34,007 --> 00:22:38,092
Lady Gaga has been relatively silent on Twitter
468
00:22:38,128 --> 00:22:40,845
since her hip surgery last February.
469
00:22:40,881 --> 00:22:44,015
But today she broke her silence and tweeted
470
00:22:44,050 --> 00:22:46,634
in support of... In defense of...
471
00:22:46,686 --> 00:22:50,805
In support of overturning the Defense of Marriage Act.
472
00:22:50,891 --> 00:22:53,942
Sloan's going to interview her manager.
473
00:22:55,368 --> 00:22:58,479
You're still able to hear yourself when you speak, right?
474
00:22:58,481 --> 00:23:01,399
- Yeah.
- I'm glad Lady Gaga wants to engage people...
475
00:23:01,451 --> 00:23:03,651
She has 40 million Twitter followers.
476
00:23:03,703 --> 00:23:06,487
Does her manager bring expertise
to the table on marriage equality?
477
00:23:06,489 --> 00:23:08,489
What kind of expertise is there on that subject?
478
00:23:08,541 --> 00:23:11,125
- Someone who's familiar with state legislature.
- Just block out the time.
479
00:23:11,161 --> 00:23:12,327
We don't have the time tonight.
480
00:23:12,329 --> 00:23:13,795
We only have him for one night.
481
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:16,047
Well, I don't want to get scooped on Gaga's manager.
482
00:23:16,082 --> 00:23:17,999
Hey, you know what, Mac?
483
00:23:18,001 --> 00:23:22,003
How about she brings 40 million
people to a civil rights debate?
484
00:23:22,005 --> 00:23:24,589
I don't think gay couples who'd just like to move
485
00:23:24,641 --> 00:23:26,808
the fuck on with their lives are
as choosy about that discussion.
486
00:23:26,843 --> 00:23:28,843
It was trending, Charlie. It still is.
487
00:23:28,895 --> 00:23:31,980
Lady Gaga's tweets, they're trending number one.
488
00:23:32,015 --> 00:23:34,565
So Pruit picked up the phone and said, "Do this."
489
00:23:34,601 --> 00:23:37,318
That's why you book her manager, to report on the tweets.
490
00:23:37,354 --> 00:23:38,653
Whatever. Put it in the rundown.
491
00:23:38,688 --> 00:23:40,655
- I don't have room.
- There's always room.
492
00:23:40,690 --> 00:23:42,824
Tell me what you'd like to cut.
493
00:23:42,859 --> 00:23:45,159
The Supreme Court struck down portions
494
00:23:45,195 --> 00:23:47,078
of the Voting Rights Act this morning.
495
00:23:47,113 --> 00:23:49,530
IAF fighter jets attacked the Gaza Strip
496
00:23:49,532 --> 00:23:51,332
after rockets were fired at southern Israel.
497
00:23:51,368 --> 00:23:54,085
Ed Markey won John Kerry's seat in the Senate.
498
00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:55,703
- Snowden's on his way to Cuba.
- Cut my thing.
499
00:23:55,705 --> 00:23:57,088
I didn't have the time for it anyway.
500
00:23:57,123 --> 00:23:58,706
- What was it?
- Nothing.
501
00:23:58,758 --> 00:24:00,758
- ACNgage?
- Yeah, how'd you know?
502
00:24:00,844 --> 00:24:02,543
- Pruit wants it.
- How did he know?
503
00:24:02,545 --> 00:24:05,797
The guy, Bree, he's got a relationship with Pruit.
504
00:24:05,849 --> 00:24:10,218
He told him you were putting him
on the air and Pruit liked it.
505
00:24:10,220 --> 00:24:11,436
It's a promo for the site.
506
00:24:11,471 --> 00:24:14,055
Yeah, that is what it is.
507
00:24:14,057 --> 00:24:16,524
You'll have to cut something else or make trims.
508
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:19,310
In an historic 5-4 decision,
509
00:24:19,362 --> 00:24:22,230
the US Supreme Court did something
that we'll tell you about tomorrow.
510
00:24:22,232 --> 00:24:24,615
- We're clear, right?
- We are.
511
00:24:29,406 --> 00:24:32,540
- I'm really sorry.
- Not your fault.
512
00:24:32,575 --> 00:24:34,208
Tell me about the five-minute interview
513
00:24:34,244 --> 00:24:36,077
we're going to do with ourselves.
514
00:24:45,755 --> 00:24:47,972
You sure you wouldn't rather do this someplace else?
515
00:24:48,008 --> 00:24:50,141
Those are the Footnotes.
516
00:24:50,176 --> 00:24:51,893
The pitch pipe lives in the room next door
517
00:24:51,928 --> 00:24:53,895
and they practice there sometimes.
518
00:24:53,930 --> 00:24:56,431
You get used to it. It's kind of nice.
519
00:24:56,433 --> 00:24:58,349
I just meant...
520
00:24:58,401 --> 00:25:01,986
If I can avoid it, I'd rather not be alone
with a young woman in her dorm room.
521
00:25:02,022 --> 00:25:05,323
You want witnesses in case I say you forced yourself on me.
522
00:25:05,358 --> 00:25:07,158
- No, no.
- Don.
523
00:25:07,243 --> 00:25:09,077
- Yeah?
- I was raped.
524
00:25:09,112 --> 00:25:11,696
- I wasn't worried...
- I was raped.
525
00:25:11,748 --> 00:25:13,998
I went to a party at one of the eating clubs.
526
00:25:14,034 --> 00:25:15,450
I drank too much tequila.
527
00:25:15,502 --> 00:25:18,286
There was molly, there was coke, there were mushrooms,
528
00:25:18,338 --> 00:25:19,871
and I took anything that was put in front of me.
529
00:25:19,923 --> 00:25:22,924
I wound up in a bathroom throwing up and then passing out.
530
00:25:22,959 --> 00:25:27,178
And the next thing I knew,
two guys were helping me into a bedroom.
531
00:25:27,213 --> 00:25:29,047
They told me I needed to lie down.
532
00:25:29,099 --> 00:25:32,050
When we got in there, they took my clothes off
533
00:25:32,102 --> 00:25:34,602
and they took turns raping me.
534
00:25:40,477 --> 00:25:42,276
And the next day you called the police?
535
00:25:42,312 --> 00:25:45,363
City police, campus police, and the DA's office.
536
00:25:45,398 --> 00:25:48,066
I know who the two guys are and I know where they live.
537
00:25:48,118 --> 00:25:50,902
That should be the easiest arrest
they're ever going to make.
538
00:25:50,954 --> 00:25:53,204
- Nobody pursued it.
- The kind of rape you're talking about
539
00:25:53,239 --> 00:25:56,040
- is difficult and usually impossible to prove.
- It's not a kind of rape.
540
00:25:56,076 --> 00:25:58,209
Sure.
541
00:26:02,916 --> 00:26:04,999
How did you find me?
542
00:26:05,001 --> 00:26:07,752
- The original email?
- Yeah.
543
00:26:07,804 --> 00:26:09,754
Just some detective work.
544
00:26:09,806 --> 00:26:11,589
I really want to know.
545
00:26:11,641 --> 00:26:14,392
Well, on the web page there's a bio.
546
00:26:14,427 --> 00:26:16,511
You say you're a third-year psych major.
547
00:26:16,513 --> 00:26:19,347
And later you say you live across from Dillon Gym
548
00:26:19,399 --> 00:26:21,899
and one of these days you're gonna start working out.
549
00:26:21,935 --> 00:26:24,819
- You also wrote that you love the Phat Lady.
- Right.
550
00:26:24,854 --> 00:26:26,988
I got a list of all female psych majors on campus
551
00:26:27,023 --> 00:26:29,407
and cross-referenced it with students
living in the upperclassmen dorms
552
00:26:29,442 --> 00:26:31,576
across from the gym, which brought me to Cuyler Hall.
553
00:26:31,611 --> 00:26:33,945
- Wow.
- I asked some people in my office
554
00:26:34,030 --> 00:26:35,446
if they knew the band the Phat Lady.
555
00:26:35,498 --> 00:26:38,699
- Really?
- And a Princeton grad laughed and said...
556
00:26:38,701 --> 00:26:41,702
- It's a sandwich.
- It is the most popular sandwich
557
00:26:41,704 --> 00:26:43,454
not on the menu at Hoagie Haven.
558
00:26:43,506 --> 00:26:46,591
So we went to Costa, one of the managers at Hoagie Haven,
559
00:26:46,626 --> 00:26:49,127
with pictures of the four female
psych majors living at Cuyler Hall
560
00:26:49,179 --> 00:26:51,512
and asked him if any were regular customers.
561
00:26:51,548 --> 00:26:54,215
He pointed at your picture and said, "That's my girl Mary."
562
00:26:54,267 --> 00:26:57,301
That's a lot of detective work. That's old school.
563
00:26:57,353 --> 00:26:59,303
I was trying to impress my boss.
564
00:26:59,355 --> 00:27:01,606
- My boss's boss.
- Did it work?
565
00:27:01,641 --> 00:27:04,192
He wants you in the studio along with Jeff.
566
00:27:05,395 --> 00:27:07,145
At the same time.
567
00:27:09,315 --> 00:27:12,316
Elliot Hirsch would be moderating, I guess you'd call it.
568
00:27:12,368 --> 00:27:14,285
It's very promotable.
569
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,370
It'd bring a lot of new viewers to my show,
570
00:27:16,406 --> 00:27:19,790
a lot of younger viewers who
drive a lot of Internet traffic.
571
00:27:19,826 --> 00:27:21,576
And I'd score some points at work.
572
00:27:21,578 --> 00:27:23,461
And you're here for a preinterview.
573
00:27:23,496 --> 00:27:26,480
I'm here to beg you not to do it.
574
00:27:38,094 --> 00:27:41,095
The travel office transferred me to talent relations,
575
00:27:41,147 --> 00:27:42,897
who transferred me to Tess, who said,
576
00:27:42,932 --> 00:27:46,400
"It's so romantic that you guys are on a stakeout together
577
00:27:46,436 --> 00:27:48,769
in the Moscow Airport. You're his destiny."
578
00:27:48,771 --> 00:27:52,523
I said, "Tess, we were supposed to
have tickets waiting to Havana."
579
00:27:52,575 --> 00:27:54,358
She said, "Hang on, let me check."
580
00:27:54,410 --> 00:27:56,911
Then she got back on the phone and said,
581
00:27:56,946 --> 00:27:59,280
"Did you know there's more than one city named Havana?"
582
00:27:59,282 --> 00:28:00,615
We have tickets to Spain?
583
00:28:00,617 --> 00:28:03,334
There are layovers in Dvinsk, Rotterdam, and Berlin.
584
00:28:03,369 --> 00:28:05,419
And we change planes in Madrid. How's it looking here?
585
00:28:05,455 --> 00:28:08,289
There are three people in front of us,
five people in back of us.
586
00:28:08,341 --> 00:28:11,008
As passengers come to claim their seats,
the people in back get dismissed.
587
00:28:11,044 --> 00:28:13,678
It's like that last helicopter out of Saigon.
588
00:28:13,713 --> 00:28:15,012
I know how standby works.
589
00:28:15,048 --> 00:28:17,131
I was answering your question.
590
00:28:21,638 --> 00:28:24,772
It really would have killed you to apologize to Hallie?
591
00:28:24,807 --> 00:28:26,807
You would have gotten sick and died?
592
00:28:26,859 --> 00:28:29,110
As soon as you said the word romantic...
593
00:28:29,145 --> 00:28:31,028
- I didn't say it, Tess did.
- You recounted it.
594
00:28:31,064 --> 00:28:33,314
I was telling a funny story.
595
00:28:33,366 --> 00:28:35,283
As soon as you said romantic,
I knew we were heading for Hallie.
596
00:28:35,318 --> 00:28:36,734
After all, it's been two hours.
597
00:28:36,786 --> 00:28:39,453
- You would have tragically died from...
- I did apologize.
598
00:28:39,489 --> 00:28:41,239
"I'm sorry I overreacted.
599
00:28:41,291 --> 00:28:44,992
In fact, I'm so sorry that I sent this apology in a text."
600
00:28:45,044 --> 00:28:46,627
How should it have been delivered?
601
00:28:46,663 --> 00:28:49,130
- In person for starters.
- She doesn't want to see me.
602
00:28:49,165 --> 00:28:51,332
You know what you should do?
603
00:28:51,384 --> 00:28:52,500
Tess thinks you're my destiny?
604
00:28:52,552 --> 00:28:53,801
- Call her right now.
- Tess?
605
00:28:53,836 --> 00:28:55,553
Hallie. Call her right now.
606
00:28:55,588 --> 00:28:57,972
You're halfway around the world on a big story,
607
00:28:58,007 --> 00:28:59,640
but you just wanted to hear her voice.
608
00:28:59,676 --> 00:29:01,592
Do you want her back, Jim?
609
00:29:01,644 --> 00:29:04,095
- Those two are on the plane.
- Do you want her back?
610
00:29:04,147 --> 00:29:06,430
- Of course.
- Then do what I'm telling you
611
00:29:06,482 --> 00:29:08,182
and wait for further instructions.
612
00:29:08,234 --> 00:29:10,518
- Do it.
- You can hold our place?
613
00:29:10,570 --> 00:29:12,987
Yeah, I think I can handle standing on the ground.
614
00:29:13,022 --> 00:29:14,322
'Cause it's not a bad idea.
615
00:29:14,357 --> 00:29:16,274
Don't get into any, you know, areas.
616
00:29:16,326 --> 00:29:18,693
Just tell her you wanted to hear her voice
617
00:29:18,695 --> 00:29:21,862
and that you love her and that you'll call her from Cuba.
618
00:29:28,621 --> 00:29:30,871
All right, I'll be right back.
619
00:30:07,710 --> 00:30:10,044
- What happened?
- It was voicemail. I hung up.
620
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:13,748
- You'll keep trying, right?
- Yeah.
621
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:15,633
You did good.
622
00:30:21,507 --> 00:30:23,591
I already know what he'll say.
623
00:30:23,593 --> 00:30:25,643
So do I. I've spoken to him.
624
00:30:25,678 --> 00:30:28,262
- He denied it?
- Yeah.
625
00:30:28,264 --> 00:30:30,765
What did he say happened?
626
00:30:31,934 --> 00:30:33,484
You don't want to hear it.
627
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:35,820
- Yes, I do.
- It's upsetting.
628
00:30:35,855 --> 00:30:38,689
I have a new standard for what upsets me.
629
00:30:38,741 --> 00:30:40,441
- He said it was consensual?
- Yeah.
630
00:30:40,443 --> 00:30:44,779
How can it be consensual if one of the
consenting parties isn't conscious?
631
00:30:44,864 --> 00:30:47,331
- It can't be.
- So what did he say?
632
00:30:47,367 --> 00:30:49,834
Mary, he says you said, "Fuck me. Fuck me. Fuck me.
633
00:30:49,869 --> 00:30:51,585
Get two guys in here who will fuck me."
634
00:30:51,621 --> 00:30:53,254
Yeah, that...
635
00:30:53,289 --> 00:30:54,955
That sounds like me.
636
00:30:55,007 --> 00:30:56,757
And he's changing his story a little.
637
00:30:56,793 --> 00:30:58,459
That's something that would come out in a trial.
638
00:30:58,461 --> 00:30:59,627
There's not gonna be a trial.
639
00:30:59,629 --> 00:31:00,928
There's not gonna be an arrest.
640
00:31:00,963 --> 00:31:02,963
And there's not gonna be an investigation.
641
00:31:03,015 --> 00:31:06,517
Mine's gonna be one of the 700,000 untested rape kits,
642
00:31:06,552 --> 00:31:08,386
so I started this website.
643
00:31:08,438 --> 00:31:11,972
- Do you know who Sloan Sabbith is?
- Sure.
644
00:31:11,974 --> 00:31:14,024
- She's my girlfriend.
- Well done.
645
00:31:14,060 --> 00:31:16,477
About, I don't know, a year and a half ago,
646
00:31:16,479 --> 00:31:19,980
she was dating this guy and they broke up and he was pissed.
647
00:31:20,032 --> 00:31:21,899
She'd posed for him, some naked pictures,
648
00:31:21,951 --> 00:31:24,151
and he posted them on a site called RevengePorn.com.
649
00:31:24,203 --> 00:31:26,287
I remember. What did she do?
650
00:31:26,322 --> 00:31:28,789
She broke his jaw, but I'm not recommending that.
651
00:31:28,825 --> 00:31:31,242
This isn't revenge. It's a warning.
652
00:31:31,294 --> 00:31:33,911
It's a public service. Do not go on a date with these guys.
653
00:31:33,963 --> 00:31:35,830
Do not go to a party with these guys.
654
00:31:35,832 --> 00:31:37,548
Do not give these guys a job ever.
655
00:31:37,583 --> 00:31:39,800
Wait, they're avoiding jail and
you think I'm being too harsh?
656
00:31:39,836 --> 00:31:42,386
Don't you think there's a chance that
somebody's gonna use the site as revenge?
657
00:31:42,422 --> 00:31:45,473
That somebody's gonna make up a story and ruin a kid's life?
658
00:31:45,508 --> 00:31:47,892
Jeff got into Stanford Medical School. Not anymore.
659
00:31:47,927 --> 00:31:50,010
There were NFL teams looking at Brandon. Not anymore.
660
00:31:50,012 --> 00:31:51,896
Yeah, you can imagine how sad that makes me.
661
00:31:51,931 --> 00:31:54,265
Don't you think there's a chance that somebody,
a woman who feels rejected...
662
00:31:54,317 --> 00:31:55,983
Yeah, bitches be bitches. I get it.
663
00:31:56,018 --> 00:31:57,518
I'm just saying that if a grown man
664
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,354
who works in arbitrage at one of
the biggest banks in the world
665
00:32:00,356 --> 00:32:02,690
can post naked pictures of his ex on RevengePorn.com...
666
00:32:02,742 --> 00:32:06,243
Yes, I think there's a chance and
I've weighed the cost benefit.
667
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:09,580
I have. If another girl got raped
because I didn't say anything
668
00:32:09,615 --> 00:32:11,532
or because someone else didn't say anything...
669
00:32:11,534 --> 00:32:13,534
- I know.
- You don't know.
670
00:32:13,586 --> 00:32:15,002
And you're right about that, too.
671
00:32:15,037 --> 00:32:16,921
Then what am I wrong about?
672
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:24,545
What am I wrong about?
673
00:32:25,548 --> 00:32:28,299
I don't like Jews. I said it.
674
00:32:28,351 --> 00:32:30,718
People are afraid to speak their mind these days.
675
00:32:30,770 --> 00:32:32,803
I haven't noticed that.
676
00:32:34,056 --> 00:32:37,558
First of all, we've got, what, 3%?
677
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,644
- Is that how many Jews there are, 3% of America?
- A little less.
678
00:32:40,696 --> 00:32:43,113
Less than 3% of Americans
679
00:32:43,149 --> 00:32:45,866
controlling the banks, the media, Hollywood.
680
00:32:45,902 --> 00:32:47,902
They didn't take those things in an armed assault.
681
00:32:47,904 --> 00:32:49,820
That's exactly how they did it.
682
00:32:49,872 --> 00:32:52,706
Their grandparents came here from the Polish ghettos
683
00:32:52,742 --> 00:32:54,875
and the Russian villages and they told their sons,
684
00:32:54,911 --> 00:32:56,660
"Don't work with your hands."
685
00:32:56,712 --> 00:33:00,164
Go to law school. You go to medical school.
You go to business school.
686
00:33:00,216 --> 00:33:03,217
You don't get calluses on your hands.
You wear a suit to work.
687
00:33:03,252 --> 00:33:05,116
Given the time they came from and the one that was coming,
688
00:33:05,139 --> 00:33:06,231
it was pretty good advice.
689
00:33:06,255 --> 00:33:08,639
And guys like you worship them.
690
00:33:08,674 --> 00:33:11,425
You'd give anything to be Jewish. You're Protestant, right?
691
00:33:11,427 --> 00:33:14,144
- Catholic.
- Nah, not on both sides.
692
00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:16,897
- My mother was Catholic.
- So is my wife.
693
00:33:16,933 --> 00:33:20,351
- Is that why you hit her?
- No, I'm not prejudiced.
694
00:33:20,403 --> 00:33:22,186
You assume I am 'cause I do real work.
695
00:33:22,238 --> 00:33:24,738
- What do I do?
- Please, buddy.
696
00:33:24,774 --> 00:33:27,408
- You want to trade jobs with me?
- No.
697
00:33:27,443 --> 00:33:28,943
'Cause you're too smart for what I do.
698
00:33:28,945 --> 00:33:30,244
Just like the Jews.
699
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:33,280
That's why your father drank.
700
00:33:36,786 --> 00:33:38,369
I'm making an executive decision.
701
00:33:38,421 --> 00:33:40,120
Should I quiet everyone down?
702
00:33:40,172 --> 00:33:41,922
We can't be in this line because A... You know,
703
00:33:41,958 --> 00:33:44,258
and B... He'll have already talked
to everyone who's boarded.
704
00:33:44,293 --> 00:33:45,459
We need to be on the plane early.
705
00:33:45,511 --> 00:33:46,627
Let's go back to the first plan.
706
00:33:46,629 --> 00:33:48,262
No reporter is gonna sell us their ticket.
707
00:33:48,297 --> 00:33:50,548
There are people on this flight who aren't reporters.
708
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,433
Let's look around and identify them.
709
00:33:56,689 --> 00:33:58,889
Those two are on their honeymoon.
710
00:34:05,615 --> 00:34:08,482
I do, just a little. My husband does not.
711
00:34:08,534 --> 00:34:10,534
I'm Maggie Jordan and this is Jim Harper.
712
00:34:10,570 --> 00:34:12,903
We are from an American news agency.
713
00:34:12,955 --> 00:34:16,240
Atlantis Cable News.
714
00:34:20,663 --> 00:34:24,131
He says Atlantis is a lost...
715
00:34:24,166 --> 00:34:26,550
Hercules, Zeus.
716
00:34:26,586 --> 00:34:29,169
- Mythological.
- Mythological city.
717
00:34:29,171 --> 00:34:30,888
It is, but the news agency is real.
718
00:34:30,923 --> 00:34:32,172
- Go faster.
- Shut up.
719
00:34:32,224 --> 00:34:33,924
Are you on your honeymoon, too?
720
00:34:33,976 --> 00:34:36,644
No, we're reporting an important story
721
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:38,646
and we need to get on that flight.
722
00:34:38,681 --> 00:34:40,898
And we'd like to buy your tickets to Havana
723
00:34:40,933 --> 00:34:44,401
and give you two free tickets to Madrid.
724
00:34:44,437 --> 00:34:47,071
- Tell them Madrid's closer.
- They know where Madrid is.
725
00:34:47,106 --> 00:34:49,323
- Just remind them.
- We know where Madrid is.
726
00:34:49,358 --> 00:34:51,575
He wants your watch.
727
00:34:51,611 --> 00:34:53,527
He wants your watch.
728
00:34:53,579 --> 00:34:56,497
This watch was a graduation present from my parents.
729
00:34:56,532 --> 00:34:58,582
Could I write you a check for some money instead?
730
00:35:01,370 --> 00:35:03,203
We'll take the money, too.
731
00:35:07,009 --> 00:35:09,460
He liked my shirt and my pants, too.
732
00:35:09,512 --> 00:35:11,962
And everything that was in my suitcase and my suitcase.
733
00:35:12,014 --> 00:35:13,597
Hey, she took my News Night baseball cap.
734
00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:15,883
I think we have more of those.
735
00:35:15,885 --> 00:35:17,718
These are our seats.
736
00:35:22,224 --> 00:35:24,391
All right.
737
00:35:24,443 --> 00:35:26,477
We'll see him come on from here.
738
00:35:27,947 --> 00:35:31,565
- I look like an idiot.
- You look kind of cute.
739
00:35:33,035 --> 00:35:35,035
I look like I...
740
00:35:35,071 --> 00:35:38,072
just really, really, really like the Olympics.
741
00:35:44,246 --> 00:35:46,914
You never called Hallie, did you?
742
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,633
No.
743
00:35:49,669 --> 00:35:51,752
Jesus Christ, Jim.
744
00:35:54,090 --> 00:35:56,140
The law is plainly failing rape victims.
745
00:35:56,175 --> 00:35:57,841
That must be obvious to you.
746
00:35:57,893 --> 00:36:00,594
It is, but in fairness,
the law wasn't built to serve victims.
747
00:36:00,646 --> 00:36:03,347
- In fairness?
- I know.
748
00:36:06,102 --> 00:36:08,268
Do you believe me?
749
00:36:08,270 --> 00:36:09,987
Do I believe you? Of course I do.
750
00:36:10,022 --> 00:36:12,239
- Seriously.
- I'm not here on a fact-finding mission.
751
00:36:12,274 --> 00:36:14,692
I'm just curious. Be really honest.
752
00:36:14,744 --> 00:36:17,494
Okay.
753
00:36:17,530 --> 00:36:19,446
I've heard two competing stories.
754
00:36:19,498 --> 00:36:20,914
One from a very credible woman
755
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:23,033
who as far as I can see has no reason to lie.
756
00:36:23,085 --> 00:36:25,419
The other from a guy I judge to be a little sketchy
757
00:36:25,454 --> 00:36:27,621
who has every reason to lie and I am...
758
00:36:27,623 --> 00:36:29,757
I'm obligated to believe the sketchy guy.
759
00:36:29,792 --> 00:36:32,426
This isn't a courtroom.
760
00:36:32,461 --> 00:36:35,012
You're not legally obligated to presume innocence.
761
00:36:35,047 --> 00:36:37,464
- I believe I'm morally obligated.
- You know, you're a good guy,
762
00:36:37,516 --> 00:36:39,600
but do people tell you a lot that your head's up your ass?
763
00:36:39,635 --> 00:36:42,970
They do, and I absolutely allow for that possibility.
764
00:36:42,972 --> 00:36:47,474
I'm the guy who goes around saying OJ's
not guilty because a jury said so.
765
00:36:47,526 --> 00:36:49,643
I'm not gonna get a jury.
766
00:36:49,695 --> 00:36:51,478
I know, and I can imagine how frustrating...
767
00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:53,480
No, you can't imagine.
768
00:36:54,784 --> 00:36:56,817
No, I can't.
769
00:36:56,869 --> 00:37:00,821
But it is a huge, dangerous,
770
00:37:00,823 --> 00:37:04,241
scary-as-shit mistake to convene your own trial
771
00:37:04,293 --> 00:37:07,127
in front of a television audience
where there's no due process,
772
00:37:07,163 --> 00:37:10,080
no lawyers, no discovery, no rules of procedure,
773
00:37:10,132 --> 00:37:13,751
no decisions on admissible evidence, threat of perjury,
774
00:37:13,836 --> 00:37:15,719
confrontation of witnesses or any of the things we do...
775
00:37:15,755 --> 00:37:18,172
To ensure that rapists go to Stanford Medical School.
776
00:37:18,174 --> 00:37:20,758
To ensure an innocent person isn't destroyed.
777
00:37:20,810 --> 00:37:23,177
The law can acquit. The Internet never will.
778
00:37:23,229 --> 00:37:25,846
The Internet is used for vigilantism every day.
779
00:37:25,848 --> 00:37:27,347
But this is a whole new level
780
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:29,183
and if we go there, we're truly fucked.
781
00:37:29,185 --> 00:37:32,603
- I'm not a vigilante.
- Do you want to live in a world where...
782
00:37:32,655 --> 00:37:35,522
Do you want to hear the advice I get?
783
00:37:35,574 --> 00:37:37,357
I mean, this is real advice.
784
00:37:37,409 --> 00:37:39,693
In pamphlets.
785
00:37:39,745 --> 00:37:43,580
Say you have a boyfriend. Wear a wedding ring.
786
00:37:43,616 --> 00:37:47,117
I'm supposed to protect myself from a man
787
00:37:47,169 --> 00:37:50,370
by pretending I'm the property of another man.
788
00:37:50,372 --> 00:37:53,257
And, of course, there's no shortage of good fashion advice.
789
00:37:53,292 --> 00:37:54,758
- Mary.
- When you came in here,
790
00:37:54,794 --> 00:37:56,510
you wanted to go to a public place
791
00:37:56,545 --> 00:37:58,846
because you were scared I'd cry rape.
792
00:38:00,716 --> 00:38:02,683
I'm scared of getting raped.
793
00:38:02,718 --> 00:38:06,303
I'm scared all the time.
794
00:38:07,807 --> 00:38:10,474
All the time.
795
00:38:10,526 --> 00:38:12,943
So you know what my site does?
796
00:38:14,063 --> 00:38:16,280
It scares you.
797
00:38:16,315 --> 00:38:19,199
It scares the living shit out of any guy
798
00:38:19,235 --> 00:38:21,869
who thinks even once about putting his hands
799
00:38:21,904 --> 00:38:25,155
on someone without an invitation.
800
00:38:25,207 --> 00:38:28,659
You're right to name your attacker.
801
00:38:28,711 --> 00:38:31,211
You may even be obligated to.
802
00:38:34,250 --> 00:38:37,334
But the site is gonna clobber an innocent person
803
00:38:37,386 --> 00:38:39,002
and there is no chance that it won't.
804
00:38:39,054 --> 00:38:42,639
And if you face off with the guy you've accused on TV,
805
00:38:42,675 --> 00:38:45,092
it is going to be a lawless food fight
806
00:38:45,094 --> 00:38:47,895
with irreversible, irretrievable consequences.
807
00:38:47,930 --> 00:38:50,764
Teams will be formed, you will be slut-shamed,
808
00:38:50,766 --> 00:38:54,101
and you won't get the justice you're looking for.
809
00:38:54,103 --> 00:38:56,770
That's why I'm asking you to refuse.
810
00:38:58,107 --> 00:39:00,407
I don't understand why you need me to refuse.
811
00:39:00,442 --> 00:39:02,776
It's your show. Why don't you just not do it?
812
00:39:02,828 --> 00:39:05,863
I've been overruled. It's a promotable story
813
00:39:05,915 --> 00:39:07,164
that'll bring in a younger audience.
814
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:08,866
I don't have a problem with that.
815
00:39:08,951 --> 00:39:10,250
It's sports, Mary.
816
00:39:10,286 --> 00:39:13,704
It'll be covered like sports.
817
00:39:13,756 --> 00:39:15,839
I'm gonna win this time.
818
00:39:21,775 --> 00:39:23,213
All right.
819
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,800
Thanks for hearing me out.
820
00:39:28,687 --> 00:39:30,804
We'll be in touch with you.
821
00:39:39,782 --> 00:39:43,150
- You miss your wife?
- Yes.
822
00:39:43,202 --> 00:39:45,819
Uh, yes. Yes, Mr. Chairman.
823
00:39:45,871 --> 00:39:47,321
I miss my wife. That's affirmative.
824
00:39:47,323 --> 00:39:49,122
I was married to her for 11 minutes
825
00:39:49,158 --> 00:39:52,876
before I was taken to jail. Yes, I miss my wife.
826
00:39:52,912 --> 00:39:56,296
So is she like you or is she like,
I don't know, what do you call it?
827
00:39:56,332 --> 00:39:58,665
- I don't know what you're asking.
- A trophy wife.
828
00:39:58,667 --> 00:40:01,051
A guy like you could get, you know.
829
00:40:01,086 --> 00:40:03,003
Is she a trophy wife or is she smart?
830
00:40:03,055 --> 00:40:05,422
She's very smart.
831
00:40:05,474 --> 00:40:08,225
Is that something you're saying because people say that?
832
00:40:08,310 --> 00:40:10,560
She went to school at Cambridge in England.
833
00:40:10,596 --> 00:40:13,180
She's considered one of the best in the world at her job...
834
00:40:13,232 --> 00:40:15,983
- You've got to stop being a prick.
- What did I do now?
835
00:40:16,018 --> 00:40:19,019
I know that Cambridge is in goddamn England, shithead.
836
00:40:19,021 --> 00:40:21,488
Why is the first thing you tell
me is where she went to school?
837
00:40:21,523 --> 00:40:24,358
My wife is smarter than I am in every way imaginable
838
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:25,909
and it never makes me mad.
839
00:40:25,945 --> 00:40:28,578
I don't feel a crippling inferiority complex
840
00:40:28,614 --> 00:40:30,914
turn into rage and bad decisions
841
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:32,582
when I think about her being smart.
842
00:40:32,618 --> 00:40:35,369
- You're saying I do?
- It seems to come up a lot.
843
00:40:35,371 --> 00:40:37,037
I don't like media types.
844
00:40:37,122 --> 00:40:38,956
- East Coast elites.
- Yeah.
845
00:40:39,041 --> 00:40:40,707
That's a thoroughly original opinion.
846
00:40:40,709 --> 00:40:42,926
I've never heard that before.
847
00:40:42,962 --> 00:40:47,097
See, you people think we can't recognize sarcasm.
848
00:40:47,132 --> 00:40:49,766
We can. We just call it being an asshole.
849
00:40:49,802 --> 00:40:51,551
And we call you a shit kicker.
850
00:40:51,553 --> 00:40:53,804
And you still don't think you look down at some people.
851
00:40:53,856 --> 00:40:55,055
Down is where some people are.
852
00:40:55,107 --> 00:40:57,224
Hmm.
853
00:41:00,396 --> 00:41:02,779
What's your mission to civilize?
854
00:41:03,949 --> 00:41:05,615
Who told you about that?
855
00:41:05,651 --> 00:41:07,200
- You did.
- When?
856
00:41:07,236 --> 00:41:09,569
- A while ago.
- I don't remember that.
857
00:41:09,621 --> 00:41:11,955
Mission to civilize, what is that?
858
00:41:11,991 --> 00:41:13,407
Nothing.
859
00:41:13,459 --> 00:41:15,459
- It's not nothing.
- It's just a joke.
860
00:41:15,494 --> 00:41:17,044
- No, it's not.
- It's nothing.
861
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:19,463
What is it?
862
00:41:19,498 --> 00:41:22,249
It's a reference to Don Quixote.
863
00:41:22,251 --> 00:41:23,917
- The knight?
- He wasn't a real knight.
864
00:41:23,969 --> 00:41:26,670
He was an old man who was delusional.
He thought he was a knight.
865
00:41:26,722 --> 00:41:29,923
He took on a world that was bleak and morally corrupt.
866
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,427
How'd he do?
867
00:41:33,429 --> 00:41:35,429
He got his ass kicked.
868
00:41:36,932 --> 00:41:39,983
See? And that's the thing.
869
00:41:40,019 --> 00:41:43,103
I don't want to see you get your ass kicked.
870
00:41:47,326 --> 00:41:50,911
That's... That's not true. That was dishonest.
871
00:41:50,946 --> 00:41:54,698
I badly want to see you get your ass kicked.
872
00:41:55,455 --> 00:41:57,334
I know.
873
00:41:59,121 --> 00:42:01,705
And that picture of you and your father,
874
00:42:01,757 --> 00:42:05,125
I'll bet he wasn't trying to teach you about civic morality.
875
00:42:05,177 --> 00:42:09,379
I'll bet he was just trying to teach you to fish.
876
00:42:16,055 --> 00:42:18,355
Please, you have to take your seats now.
877
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:20,357
We're pushing back from the gate and all passengers
878
00:42:20,392 --> 00:42:24,061
must take their seats, please. Thank you.
879
00:42:26,281 --> 00:42:28,648
We had seats across the aisle from him.
880
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:32,953
The honeymooners had two seats across
the aisle from Edward Snowden.
881
00:42:32,988 --> 00:42:36,039
Boris and Natasha had the golden tickets.
882
00:42:36,075 --> 00:42:38,125
We'd have had him the whole flight except for one thing.
883
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,460
- He's not...
- He's not on the plane. You know where he is?
884
00:42:40,496 --> 00:42:43,080
- Probably back in the airport.
- Yeah.
885
00:42:43,132 --> 00:42:47,167
So we'll be flying 600 miles an hour away from the story.
886
00:42:48,337 --> 00:42:50,887
Fuck!
887
00:42:54,393 --> 00:42:56,760
Why didn't you call her?
888
00:42:56,812 --> 00:42:58,478
What?
889
00:42:58,514 --> 00:43:00,730
Why didn't you call Hallie?
890
00:43:00,766 --> 00:43:02,516
You're a noodge, Maggie. You know that?
891
00:43:02,568 --> 00:43:05,435
I'm just asking.
892
00:43:05,487 --> 00:43:08,155
If you really like her, it's a stupid thing...
893
00:43:08,190 --> 00:43:10,323
I like you.
894
00:43:11,660 --> 00:43:14,327
And I don't really know why you don't know that.
895
00:43:20,285 --> 00:43:21,701
Because...
896
00:43:21,703 --> 00:43:24,921
Because if you wanted to be with me, you'd be with me.
897
00:43:24,957 --> 00:43:27,174
That's just not at all true.
898
00:43:27,209 --> 00:43:30,043
You were with Don when I met you.
899
00:43:30,095 --> 00:43:32,045
You never called me from New Hampshire.
900
00:43:32,047 --> 00:43:35,048
- Yes, I did.
- No, you didn't. Ever.
901
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:38,435
And you knew I had split up with Don and you knew why.
902
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:40,470
You went through Lisa, you went through Hallie.
903
00:43:40,522 --> 00:43:42,722
And you never called me from New Hampshire.
904
00:43:42,774 --> 00:43:45,058
So it's really not as obvious as you think it is.
905
00:43:45,110 --> 00:43:46,643
And it's also probably not true.
906
00:43:46,695 --> 00:43:49,062
Well, the rest might be right...
907
00:43:50,399 --> 00:43:52,899
It's not, but it had potential...
908
00:43:52,951 --> 00:43:55,902
but the last thing was unambiguously wrong.
909
00:43:55,954 --> 00:43:58,572
- What language are you...
- I do like you.
910
00:43:59,791 --> 00:44:02,826
I like you and I'm glad I said it.
911
00:44:02,878 --> 00:44:05,912
Even though now I wish I had said it
912
00:44:05,964 --> 00:44:08,081
at the end of a 13-hour flight.
913
00:44:11,753 --> 00:44:13,970
Yeah, this is gonna be uncomfortable.
914
00:44:14,006 --> 00:44:15,422
I'm gonna switch seats with someone.
915
00:44:15,474 --> 00:44:17,841
I'll switch seats. I'll sit in Snowden's seat.
916
00:44:17,893 --> 00:44:19,009
That's not far enough.
917
00:44:19,061 --> 00:44:21,478
It's gonna be weird if we can see each other.
918
00:44:27,152 --> 00:44:29,019
Okay.
919
00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:53,877
I'm making a motion that the court
920
00:44:53,929 --> 00:44:55,845
vacate its initial contempt finding
921
00:44:55,881 --> 00:44:57,547
because enough is enough.
922
00:44:57,633 --> 00:44:59,132
Do I need grounds? Sure.
923
00:44:59,134 --> 00:45:00,433
The government now possesses information
924
00:45:00,469 --> 00:45:02,686
that will help it independently find the source.
925
00:45:02,721 --> 00:45:04,521
But mostly, enough is enough.
926
00:45:04,556 --> 00:45:06,439
You can't lock up a man for 52 days
927
00:45:06,475 --> 00:45:08,892
without him knowing when or even if he's ever getting out.
928
00:45:08,944 --> 00:45:12,312
You can't lock up a reporter for protecting his source.
929
00:45:12,397 --> 00:45:14,648
- You can't have everything. And you...
- Rebecca.
930
00:45:14,733 --> 00:45:15,815
I have not yielded the floor.
931
00:45:15,817 --> 00:45:17,901
I won't be contesting your motion.
932
00:45:17,953 --> 00:45:19,986
I'm sorry?
933
00:45:20,038 --> 00:45:23,957
I won't be contesting your motion. I'll be joining it.
934
00:45:23,992 --> 00:45:26,826
This isn't supposed to be punitive.
It's supposed to be coercive.
935
00:45:26,828 --> 00:45:29,996
And plainly he's not giving up the name.
936
00:45:30,048 --> 00:45:31,998
He'll sleep at home tonight.
937
00:45:43,512 --> 00:45:44,928
Follow me.
938
00:45:47,566 --> 00:45:49,182
Follow me.
939
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:52,986
Where are we going?
940
00:45:53,021 --> 00:45:55,021
Exactly where you think we're going.
941
00:45:55,073 --> 00:45:57,073
I don't know what... I'm confused.
942
00:45:57,109 --> 00:46:00,160
We're running into turbulence.
943
00:46:00,195 --> 00:46:03,029
You have to go to your seats and put your seat belts on.
944
00:46:03,031 --> 00:46:04,581
This is awkward.
945
00:46:04,616 --> 00:46:07,417
I was sitting far away from you.
I was watching episode four.
946
00:46:07,452 --> 00:46:09,369
I'm sorry, would you mind trading back?
947
00:46:09,371 --> 00:46:11,338
We're in the middle of turbulence.
948
00:46:11,373 --> 00:46:13,089
It's nothing. It's due to the action
949
00:46:13,125 --> 00:46:15,759
of molecular viscosity called laminar flow.
950
00:46:17,095 --> 00:46:19,713
Okay.
951
00:46:19,715 --> 00:46:22,382
- Where did that come from?
- Sit down. Put on your seat belt.
952
00:46:58,887 --> 00:47:01,755
And we're joined now by Bree Dorrit, editor of ACN Digital
953
00:47:01,807 --> 00:47:03,306
and father of the ACNgage app.
954
00:47:03,342 --> 00:47:05,091
- Thanks for joining us, Bree.
- Hi, Sloan.
955
00:47:05,093 --> 00:47:08,511
We saw some of it in the package we just played,
but tell us about ACNgage.
956
00:47:08,563 --> 00:47:10,096
It's a map that tells you where celebrities
957
00:47:10,148 --> 00:47:11,765
have been sighted in New York or Los Angeles.
958
00:47:11,767 --> 00:47:14,351
And soon we'll be expanding to Vegas and South Beach.
959
00:47:14,403 --> 00:47:17,237
Any time you want, you can scroll around and see, you know,
960
00:47:17,272 --> 00:47:20,273
Jude Law was shopping for condoms
at Duane Reade on 57th or...
961
00:47:20,325 --> 00:47:23,326
So people are out there and they
can post a message to us and say,
962
00:47:23,362 --> 00:47:25,779
"Kristen Bell and her kid are at the 4:00 PM showing
963
00:47:25,831 --> 00:47:27,614
of How to Train Your Dragon at the ArcLight"?
964
00:47:27,616 --> 00:47:29,416
And it goes right on our map instantly.
965
00:47:29,451 --> 00:47:31,034
So that when Kristen Bell and
her kid come out of the movies,
966
00:47:31,086 --> 00:47:33,119
there are a dozen sociopaths waiting for them?
967
00:47:35,999 --> 00:47:38,792
- I don't think that's likely.
- Why not?
968
00:47:38,794 --> 00:47:41,177
Well, it's the price of fame, isn't it?
969
00:47:41,213 --> 00:47:43,129
No, it's not. It's a punishment for it.
970
00:47:43,181 --> 00:47:45,849
Celebrities have been stalked and
celebrities have been murdered.
971
00:47:45,934 --> 00:47:48,385
What this app is best at is assisting in that, right?
972
00:47:48,437 --> 00:47:49,853
I'm sorry you feel that way.
973
00:47:49,888 --> 00:47:51,805
ACNgage is citizen journalism.
974
00:47:51,807 --> 00:47:53,473
Can you talk about the vetting process
975
00:47:53,525 --> 00:47:55,642
- the citizen journalism undergoes?
- The vetting?
976
00:47:55,644 --> 00:47:57,694
People can post more than locations.
977
00:47:57,729 --> 00:47:59,312
- They can post observations.
- That's right.
978
00:47:59,364 --> 00:48:01,948
I'm asking if those posts are fact-checked.
979
00:48:01,983 --> 00:48:03,817
This is one specific element of the site...
980
00:48:03,819 --> 00:48:06,369
For instance, in a post today a citizen journalist tells us
981
00:48:06,405 --> 00:48:08,655
that Jimmy Kimmel was visibly intoxicated last night
982
00:48:08,657 --> 00:48:10,957
- at the Soho House in West Hollywood.
- That's right.
983
00:48:10,992 --> 00:48:14,043
Jimmy Kimmel was with his family
in Cabo San Lucas last night.
984
00:48:15,630 --> 00:48:18,465
People don't read this with the
expectation of it being true.
985
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:19,999
- Everyone...
- Excuse me?
986
00:48:20,051 --> 00:48:21,751
- Everyone...
- People don't have an expectation
987
00:48:21,803 --> 00:48:23,052
that what they're reading is true?
988
00:48:23,088 --> 00:48:25,004
They read it for the immediacy.
989
00:48:25,006 --> 00:48:26,589
But you're using the word journalism,
990
00:48:26,641 --> 00:48:29,309
which means there is an expectation
that what they're reading is true.
991
00:48:29,344 --> 00:48:30,894
But let me take it a step further.
992
00:48:30,929 --> 00:48:32,762
Let's pretend it was true that Jimmy Kimmel
993
00:48:32,814 --> 00:48:35,515
was intoxicated last night at the
Soho House in West Hollywood.
994
00:48:35,567 --> 00:48:37,517
It's not true, but we don't care, so let's pretend
995
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:39,018
that it is since that's what we're doing anyway.
996
00:48:39,070 --> 00:48:40,603
Why does that belong on our website?
997
00:48:40,655 --> 00:48:42,322
Leave her on as long as she wants.
998
00:48:42,357 --> 00:48:44,858
Honestly, I think there's a shifting definition
999
00:48:44,860 --> 00:48:46,576
of what's public and private space.
1000
00:48:46,611 --> 00:48:47,994
There is, and we should care about that.
1001
00:48:48,029 --> 00:48:50,029
But my question is why should we care
1002
00:48:50,031 --> 00:48:52,248
about a talk show host drinking at a bar?
1003
00:48:52,284 --> 00:48:54,918
Don't you think it's great that we're not putting people
1004
00:48:54,953 --> 00:48:56,703
up on a pedestal and worshipping them anymore?
1005
00:48:56,755 --> 00:49:00,206
I don't think celebrities are one
of the bigger problems facing us,
1006
00:49:00,208 --> 00:49:02,258
but aren't we the ones building the pedestal?
1007
00:49:02,294 --> 00:49:04,344
You've got a map that gives us their location.
1008
00:49:04,379 --> 00:49:06,679
The idea is that we're acknowledging
that they're real people.
1009
00:49:06,715 --> 00:49:09,048
I wonder how many of us didn't already know that.
1010
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:10,717
But you're doing more than
acknowledging they're real people.
1011
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,519
You're beating them up for it.
1012
00:49:12,554 --> 00:49:15,638
Aren't they protected by the piles
of money they're surrounded by?
1013
00:49:15,690 --> 00:49:17,774
Okay, what's the line of demarcation?
1014
00:49:17,809 --> 00:49:20,977
You make over X dollars a year and
now you get to be treated by us
1015
00:49:21,029 --> 00:49:22,946
as a regular person who's basically had
1016
00:49:22,981 --> 00:49:25,365
an electronic bracelet slapped on their ankle.
What does X equal?
1017
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,901
It would be silly to name an exact dollar amount.
1018
00:49:27,903 --> 00:49:30,787
- You're paid $55,000 a year.
- Well, that's private.
1019
00:49:30,822 --> 00:49:34,574
Sorry. That's almost twice the
national average for a family of four.
1020
00:49:34,626 --> 00:49:36,993
Do your piles of cash protect you from this interview
1021
00:49:37,045 --> 00:49:39,078
in which I'm intentionally stripping you of your dignity?
1022
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,998
And, by the way, I've managed to do it without lying once.
1023
00:49:42,050 --> 00:49:44,834
So I'm going to give you another
chance to answer my question
1024
00:49:44,886 --> 00:49:46,419
before I answer it myself.
1025
00:49:46,471 --> 00:49:48,004
What's the value of an unsourced,
1026
00:49:48,056 --> 00:49:52,091
unvetted story about a grown man drinking at a bar?
1027
00:49:56,898 --> 00:49:59,766
I can't give you all the time in the world.
It's entertainment.
1028
00:49:59,851 --> 00:50:01,434
My concern isn't for the celebrities,
1029
00:50:01,436 --> 00:50:04,521
even though as sure as we're sitting here,
someone's gonna get hurt.
1030
00:50:04,573 --> 00:50:05,989
My concern is for the rest of us
1031
00:50:06,024 --> 00:50:08,858
who you're turning into a wild pack of prideless punks.
1032
00:50:10,195 --> 00:50:11,694
That's News Night for June 24.
1033
00:50:11,746 --> 00:50:13,780
I'm Sloan Sabbith filling in for Will McAvoy.
1034
00:50:13,832 --> 00:50:16,616
Terry Smith's up next with the Capitol Report.
1035
00:50:20,121 --> 00:50:22,755
We're clear.
1036
00:50:22,791 --> 00:50:25,091
Pruit's gonna kill you for this.
1037
00:50:25,126 --> 00:50:26,926
I know.
1038
00:50:32,017 --> 00:50:34,634
- Did you put her up to that?!
- Let's go in my office.
1039
00:50:34,636 --> 00:50:38,021
- No! We'll go where I fucking say we go!
- Charlie.
1040
00:50:38,056 --> 00:50:40,223
- Did you put her up to it?
- Nobody put me up to anything.
1041
00:50:40,275 --> 00:50:42,141
What did you think you were doing?
1042
00:50:42,193 --> 00:50:44,277
- You saw the questions she was gonna ask?
- 'Course I saw the questions.
1043
00:50:44,312 --> 00:50:45,979
I was doing the interview the
only way that made sense to me.
1044
00:50:46,031 --> 00:50:47,530
You were openly insubordinate!
1045
00:50:47,566 --> 00:50:49,148
I was told to do this interview.
1046
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,650
You knew what I was looking for!
1047
00:50:50,702 --> 00:50:52,735
I did and I didn't like it, but I did it anyway.
1048
00:50:52,787 --> 00:50:55,405
- That was my interview. Mac wasn't responsible.
- I tried to do the best I could, but I didn't...
1049
00:50:55,457 --> 00:50:56,906
I'm tired of this.
1050
00:50:56,958 --> 00:50:58,791
Did you get the Princeton kid?
1051
00:50:58,827 --> 00:51:01,327
Charlie, let's go into my office and sit down for a minute.
1052
00:51:01,379 --> 00:51:02,745
Did you get the Princeton kid?
1053
00:51:05,667 --> 00:51:07,717
- No.
- Why not?
1054
00:51:09,170 --> 00:51:10,887
Couldn't find her.
1055
00:51:12,173 --> 00:51:14,424
You couldn't...
1056
00:51:14,476 --> 00:51:15,975
No.
1057
00:51:16,011 --> 00:51:19,012
- You couldn't find her?!
- No.
1058
00:51:19,064 --> 00:51:20,980
Is this a mutiny?!
1059
00:51:21,016 --> 00:51:22,482
It's an intervention.
1060
00:51:22,517 --> 00:51:24,851
I'm trying to keep this together!
1061
00:51:24,903 --> 00:51:27,654
Her and her,
tell 'em to pack their shit and get out of here.
1062
00:51:27,689 --> 00:51:29,572
- I apologize for the interview.
- I don't.
1063
00:51:29,608 --> 00:51:31,658
- Pack up your shit and get out of here, lady.
- Look...
1064
00:51:31,693 --> 00:51:34,494
She tore apart our network, except it isn't ours, it's mine.
1065
00:51:34,529 --> 00:51:37,363
So either Thelma and Louise vacate the
premises in the next five minutes
1066
00:51:37,365 --> 00:51:41,000
or I will fire the motherfucking lot of you right now.
1067
00:51:41,036 --> 00:51:43,336
No, you won't. 'Cause you can't.
1068
00:51:43,371 --> 00:51:47,590
Only I can. A parting gift from Mrs. Lansing.
1069
00:51:47,626 --> 00:51:50,710
Who on her worst day would never...
1070
00:51:53,848 --> 00:51:56,099
We need to talk.
1071
00:51:56,134 --> 00:51:57,934
You and me, right now, okay?
1072
00:51:59,354 --> 00:52:01,354
Upstairs.
1073
00:52:01,389 --> 00:52:04,023
Nobody leaves the premises until we figure out
1074
00:52:04,059 --> 00:52:06,442
how to fix this fucking calamity.
1075
00:52:07,896 --> 00:52:10,279
I'll be back in a minute.
1076
00:52:12,734 --> 00:52:14,734
- Let's meet in my office.
- I'm there.
1077
00:54:19,861 --> 00:54:22,195
It's okay. It's over.
1078
00:54:29,671 --> 00:54:32,755
Charlie had a heart attack a few hours ago.
1079
00:54:35,877 --> 00:54:37,844
He died.
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