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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:49,162 --> 00:00:51,460 [ Man ] I love being in the military. 2 00:00:53,934 --> 00:00:56,869 I love wearing the uniform. I'm proud to wear the uniform. 3 00:00:59,072 --> 00:01:00,562 I'd have never in a million years... 4 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,905 imagined that I would be going to jail. 5 00:01:05,345 --> 00:01:06,835 After the first murder... 6 00:01:06,913 --> 00:01:12,180 everything that I believed in in the army was gone. 7 00:01:15,122 --> 00:01:17,215 People in my platoon, they just changed. 8 00:01:17,290 --> 00:01:19,383 Something in them changed. 9 00:01:23,363 --> 00:01:25,263 [ Newscaster ] This was the platoon from hell. 10 00:01:25,332 --> 00:01:26,959 [ Newscaster #2 ] Accused of shocking crimes... 11 00:01:27,033 --> 00:01:30,525 that include murdering Afghans for sport. 12 00:01:30,604 --> 00:01:33,573 At the time, what was going on around us didn't-- 13 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,574 It wasn't far-fetched. It wasn't bizarre. 14 00:01:35,642 --> 00:01:39,134 It was just, like, "All right. Sure." You know? 15 00:01:39,212 --> 00:01:41,703 "This is okay." 16 00:01:41,782 --> 00:01:44,546 [ Newscaster ] Soldiers allegedIy formed a kill team... 17 00:01:44,618 --> 00:01:46,643 mutilating corpses, taking pot shots at Afghan civilians. 18 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,278 Right now, if you handed me a human finger... 19 00:01:48,355 --> 00:01:49,845 it would-- it would scare me. 20 00:01:49,923 --> 00:01:53,086 But over there, it's-- it's combat, man. It happens. 21 00:01:54,227 --> 00:01:55,751 [ Newscaster ] Unarmed Afghan civilians... 22 00:01:55,829 --> 00:01:59,424 picked out, stood up, shot and then blown up. 23 00:01:59,499 --> 00:02:04,232 I was so dead set on just avoiding this, staying out of it. 24 00:02:04,304 --> 00:02:06,431 I never wanted to kill anyone ever. 25 00:02:06,506 --> 00:02:09,771 Specialist Adam Winfield's father, Chris, warned the army... 26 00:02:09,843 --> 00:02:12,835 but tragically army officials refused to investigate. 27 00:02:12,913 --> 00:02:15,711 His son now charged in the third killing... 28 00:02:15,782 --> 00:02:17,841 that took place three months later. 29 00:02:17,918 --> 00:02:19,818 [ Woman ] Is your son a whistle-blower or a murderer? 30 00:02:19,886 --> 00:02:22,787 He's a whistle-blower. He-- He tried. The army didn't listen. 31 00:02:25,959 --> 00:02:29,122 [ Chris Winfield ] When we first heard that Adam was brought in... 32 00:02:29,196 --> 00:02:31,289 and we felt like he was safe... 33 00:02:31,364 --> 00:02:34,629 the army told us everything was gonna be okay. 34 00:02:36,603 --> 00:02:38,571 But as soon as he stepped off the airplane... 35 00:02:38,638 --> 00:02:40,765 they arrested him for murder. 36 00:02:45,979 --> 00:02:47,879 [ Emma Winfield ] We don't-- We don't know what's going on. 37 00:02:47,948 --> 00:02:49,882 We don't know how this has occurred. 38 00:02:49,950 --> 00:02:52,350 We-- We know that months ago... 39 00:02:52,419 --> 00:02:55,013 he tried to tell people what was going on... 40 00:02:55,088 --> 00:02:56,578 and now suddenly he's being charged... 41 00:02:56,656 --> 00:02:59,216 with the same crimes that he reported. 42 00:03:06,233 --> 00:03:09,464 ♪ [ Bugle Call ] 43 00:03:13,607 --> 00:03:15,939 Left. Left, right. 44 00:03:21,982 --> 00:03:24,610 The army says they want to move this case... 45 00:03:24,684 --> 00:03:28,450 but yet every action that they've taken beguiles that very notion. 46 00:03:28,522 --> 00:03:30,990 I mean, we were supposed to be going to trial... 47 00:03:31,057 --> 00:03:33,423 and they're just now coming to the table... 48 00:03:33,493 --> 00:03:36,326 with new evidence they've discovered? Bullshit. 49 00:03:36,396 --> 00:03:37,886 Okay? It's just bullshit. 50 00:03:37,964 --> 00:03:39,454 So my eye is toward getting-- 51 00:03:39,533 --> 00:03:41,160 [ Winfield ] I've been confined... 52 00:03:42,302 --> 00:03:44,862 367 days. 53 00:03:49,776 --> 00:03:51,266 They are trying to get me... 54 00:03:51,344 --> 00:03:54,040 for premeditated murder in the first degree, which is... 55 00:03:54,114 --> 00:03:57,242 a mandatory minimum sentence of life. 56 00:03:58,418 --> 00:04:01,581 So I'm depressed constantly, constantly... 57 00:04:01,655 --> 00:04:06,786 and my anxiety is at levels that I've never experienced before. 58 00:04:09,529 --> 00:04:11,724 - Same guy, right? - Yup. 59 00:04:11,798 --> 00:04:14,460 Same situation. Same guy as this guy. 60 00:04:14,534 --> 00:04:16,024 Same guy as this guy. 61 00:04:16,102 --> 00:04:17,797 So, the army's evidence-- 62 00:04:17,871 --> 00:04:20,237 [ Winfield ] At one point in time, overseas... 63 00:04:20,307 --> 00:04:23,970 the people in my platoon and my squad leader were murdering people. 64 00:04:24,044 --> 00:04:26,205 Are they trying to say this is the victim? 65 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,076 Well, then they come along... 66 00:04:28,148 --> 00:04:31,049 and then they say that this is the victim. 67 00:04:31,117 --> 00:04:34,211 It was, like, I can make a stand out here... 68 00:04:34,287 --> 00:04:36,585 and risk my life, or I can just... 69 00:04:36,656 --> 00:04:40,422 try to stay out of it as best as I can. 70 00:04:41,394 --> 00:04:42,884 You know. 71 00:04:42,963 --> 00:04:45,523 Unfortunately, it didn't pan out that way. 72 00:04:59,813 --> 00:05:03,647 ♪ And ripped them away ♪ 73 00:05:03,717 --> 00:05:07,881 ♪ She was queen for about an hour ♪ 74 00:05:07,954 --> 00:05:11,754 ♪ After that, shit got sour ♪♪ 75 00:05:11,825 --> 00:05:14,919 As infantrymen, your entire existence is like a series of tests. 76 00:05:19,432 --> 00:05:21,297 Are you man enough? Are you tough enough? 77 00:05:21,368 --> 00:05:23,131 Uh, you know, can you pull the trigger? 78 00:05:23,203 --> 00:05:24,693 Can you kill? Can you survive? 79 00:05:28,375 --> 00:05:31,606 Our brigade commander described it before we left. 80 00:05:31,678 --> 00:05:34,010 "Afghanistan is a warrior's paradise." 81 00:05:35,649 --> 00:05:37,617 [ Holmes ] My first firefight-- We were just getting ready... 82 00:05:37,684 --> 00:05:39,174 to walk into this village through the wall... 83 00:05:39,252 --> 00:05:40,913 and then bullets are flying right over your head. 84 00:05:40,987 --> 00:05:43,012 I mean, hitting the trees right behind you. 85 00:05:43,089 --> 00:05:45,216 And the first thing that came to my mind... 86 00:05:45,291 --> 00:05:47,782 when that was, was "Danger Zone" from Top Gun. 87 00:05:53,299 --> 00:05:54,789 It was intense. 88 00:05:54,868 --> 00:05:56,358 You know, it was-- it was really cool. 89 00:05:56,436 --> 00:05:59,405 You can hear the firefight going on right down the way... 90 00:05:59,472 --> 00:06:02,839 and we've got helicopters and fast movers and, uh, explosions. 91 00:06:02,909 --> 00:06:05,275 All the bullshit paid off right there. 92 00:06:05,345 --> 00:06:07,779 I mean, all the-- all the rock marchin'... 93 00:06:07,847 --> 00:06:10,281 and the dumb shit, it was all worth it. 94 00:06:10,350 --> 00:06:13,285 I mean, I don't know if it was the adrenaline or what it was... 95 00:06:13,353 --> 00:06:16,322 but to finally be able to start and do your job for real was, like... 96 00:06:16,389 --> 00:06:18,414 "All right. Right on. This is cool." 97 00:06:18,491 --> 00:06:20,755 Like, a couple guys-- like, we were laughing our asses off... 98 00:06:20,827 --> 00:06:22,488 the first time we started getting shot at. 99 00:06:22,562 --> 00:06:24,689 You get the reason why you wanted to join... 100 00:06:24,764 --> 00:06:27,460 for all of, you know, 10 minutes-- 10, 15 minutes... 101 00:06:27,534 --> 00:06:29,968 but then it's just back to the grind, you know? 102 00:06:30,036 --> 00:06:32,561 Hating life. Just suckin'. 103 00:06:36,609 --> 00:06:39,237 This is boring as fuck. 104 00:06:44,317 --> 00:06:46,376 So, uh... 105 00:06:47,253 --> 00:06:48,743 here we are. 106 00:06:48,822 --> 00:06:51,052 Middle of nowhere, Afghanistan. 107 00:06:51,124 --> 00:06:56,084 Uh, been out here about three days now. 108 00:06:56,162 --> 00:06:59,029 This sucks a lot. 109 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,400 I expected climbing mountains and firefights every day... 110 00:07:04,471 --> 00:07:06,871 and staying out for days at a time. 111 00:07:06,940 --> 00:07:08,567 It really wasn't anything like that. 112 00:07:08,641 --> 00:07:12,873 You drive out to a village, find the local elder, mullah, whatever... 113 00:07:12,946 --> 00:07:16,040 and the LT asks him some questions, and then you drive back. 114 00:07:16,116 --> 00:07:17,606 [ Shot Fires ] 115 00:07:17,684 --> 00:07:20,050 Ooh, look. There's an IED. 116 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,486 [ Man On Walkie-Talkie, Indistinct ] 117 00:07:22,555 --> 00:07:25,615 - One-two. - One-two, you okay? 118 00:07:25,692 --> 00:07:28,889 What the hell we were, you know, risking our fuckin' necks for... 119 00:07:28,962 --> 00:07:31,658 driving across the desert, waiting for a buddy to get blown up... 120 00:07:31,731 --> 00:07:33,392 just to go ask some old dude some questions. 121 00:07:33,466 --> 00:07:35,900 Like, for what? You know? 122 00:07:35,969 --> 00:07:38,164 [ Call To Prayer ] 123 00:07:38,238 --> 00:07:41,401 [ Man ] Patrolling the streets of-- Where are we? 124 00:07:41,474 --> 00:07:45,103 [ Man 2 ] We are in Tabin-eh Bulya. 125 00:07:45,178 --> 00:07:47,169 Tabin-eh-- Whatever. 126 00:07:47,247 --> 00:07:48,737 - Yeah. - We're in Afghanistan. 127 00:07:48,815 --> 00:07:50,305 Great place. 128 00:07:50,383 --> 00:07:53,546 Lots of, uh, friendly people here wanting to kill us. 129 00:07:53,620 --> 00:07:55,554 Our biggest fear is stepping on land mines. 130 00:07:55,622 --> 00:07:57,112 Yeah. Look at the ground. 131 00:07:57,190 --> 00:07:59,090 Or pressure plates. 132 00:07:59,159 --> 00:08:00,649 We gotta walk around all day. 133 00:08:00,727 --> 00:08:03,924 [ Children Talking, Playing ] 134 00:08:03,997 --> 00:08:06,261 Making sure we don't hit any IEDs. 135 00:08:08,134 --> 00:08:10,068 [ Morlock ] We've been training to do one thing all this time... 136 00:08:10,136 --> 00:08:11,626 counterguerilla stuff. 137 00:08:11,704 --> 00:08:13,968 And, you know, being a warrior and going kicking ass. 138 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,873 And then you get there, and we're forced to go and help them... 139 00:08:16,943 --> 00:08:19,036 and build them a well, a school or whatever. 140 00:08:21,014 --> 00:08:22,879 To do any offensive operation... 141 00:08:22,949 --> 00:08:26,885 you needed the top fuckin' signature from, you know, whoever-- 142 00:08:26,953 --> 00:08:29,717 big dog general or President Karzai himself. 143 00:08:29,789 --> 00:08:32,314 You can't shoot somebody because of this reason. 144 00:08:32,392 --> 00:08:34,451 You can't do it because of that reason. 145 00:08:34,527 --> 00:08:37,519 They blow you up, and you see them driving away. 146 00:08:41,601 --> 00:08:43,933 It was nothing like what everybody hyped it to be. 147 00:08:44,003 --> 00:08:50,875 And part of that's probably why, you know, things happened. 148 00:08:53,546 --> 00:08:55,980 [ Helicopter Whirring ] 149 00:09:03,590 --> 00:09:07,185 There are certain facts that are not in dispute. 150 00:09:07,260 --> 00:09:08,750 You have dead guy. 151 00:09:08,828 --> 00:09:15,825 Two people within 15-20 meters pointing their gun at this guy... 152 00:09:15,902 --> 00:09:19,429 unarmed civilian, and he's dead. 153 00:09:21,140 --> 00:09:22,630 Why is that? 154 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,680 So, we've got to walk a fairly close line... 155 00:09:29,749 --> 00:09:31,546 with the moral piece on this... 156 00:09:31,618 --> 00:09:35,714 because he's not totally clean-gloved. 157 00:09:38,858 --> 00:09:41,622 I guess I'm looking at it from a different perspective. 158 00:09:44,097 --> 00:09:46,588 To somebody who's looking at it in a vacuum... 159 00:09:46,666 --> 00:09:49,464 they've got to decide, is it more likely than not... 160 00:09:49,535 --> 00:09:52,129 or beyond all reasonable doubt, that this guy... 161 00:09:52,205 --> 00:09:56,574 on that day, knew what was about to happen and participated willingly. 162 00:09:58,244 --> 00:10:01,270 And it sounds like he did under one version of the story. 163 00:10:01,347 --> 00:10:03,872 It's plausible. It's possible. 164 00:10:03,950 --> 00:10:06,248 Adam was there. He discharged his weapon. 165 00:10:06,319 --> 00:10:09,516 There are a lot of witnesses that will corroborate that. 166 00:10:09,589 --> 00:10:12,558 The only-- The only distinction is: 167 00:10:12,625 --> 00:10:15,958 What was in his brain at that moment? 168 00:10:16,029 --> 00:10:18,395 Was he a willing participant or not? 169 00:10:25,939 --> 00:10:28,271 [ Morlock ] We're doing a battalion push on this village. 170 00:10:28,341 --> 00:10:30,605 And, I mean, it wasn't even 30 minutes in. 171 00:10:30,677 --> 00:10:32,736 Pulled up to town. Our squad leader hit an IED. 172 00:10:33,780 --> 00:10:35,941 And I think it severed his left leg. 173 00:10:36,015 --> 00:10:38,176 I only got to see him in the hospital... 174 00:10:38,251 --> 00:10:41,778 before they flew him to Germany, and he was heavily sedated. 175 00:10:41,854 --> 00:10:44,322 He had his eyes closed and we went up and we said... 176 00:10:44,390 --> 00:10:47,018 "We apologize we couldn't have been there, man. 177 00:10:47,093 --> 00:10:49,527 You know, you're a brother to us and we love you." 178 00:10:53,933 --> 00:10:56,026 [ Man ] Hey, you fuckin' move. 179 00:10:57,770 --> 00:10:59,795 [ Morlock ] After that, we were down a guy. 180 00:10:59,872 --> 00:11:01,396 We needed a new squad leader. 181 00:11:01,474 --> 00:11:03,965 And then it was a couple of weeks later, I guess... 182 00:11:04,043 --> 00:11:05,533 that's when Gibbs showed up. 183 00:11:05,611 --> 00:11:07,101 We'd been in country a while. 184 00:11:07,180 --> 00:11:09,705 You've been training with each other for years and you get a new guy. 185 00:11:09,782 --> 00:11:11,443 You're like, "All right. Who the fuck's this guy?" 186 00:11:11,517 --> 00:11:14,714 I mean, you see him, you're, like, "All right. Well, that's-- 187 00:11:14,787 --> 00:11:17,221 that's the mold of an infantryman right there." 188 00:11:21,294 --> 00:11:22,784 If the government was gonna... 189 00:11:22,862 --> 00:11:25,057 push 'em out on an assembly line, that would be the guy. 190 00:11:25,131 --> 00:11:27,190 He was an infantry vet already. 191 00:11:27,266 --> 00:11:29,700 He'd already been in Afghanistan and Iraq. 192 00:11:29,769 --> 00:11:31,669 He wasn't afraid to change the tactics. 193 00:11:31,738 --> 00:11:35,174 Bring the fight to us versus going looking for one that didn't exist. 194 00:11:35,241 --> 00:11:39,302 [ Stoner ] Other squad leaders follow the rules to a T. 195 00:11:39,379 --> 00:11:42,041 Gibbs was a much different story. 196 00:11:42,115 --> 00:11:45,380 Odds are, you work for him, you're probably gonna come back in one piece. 197 00:11:45,451 --> 00:11:48,909 Or you could work for the guy who follows the rules and get your ass blown up. 198 00:11:48,988 --> 00:11:52,014 He never talked to me about what he did in Iraq. I did see his tattoos. 199 00:11:54,093 --> 00:11:55,583 He was sittin' there, workin' out... 200 00:11:55,661 --> 00:11:57,219 and I was, like, "Skulls." You know. 201 00:11:57,296 --> 00:11:58,786 "That's cool. What does it mean?" 202 00:11:58,865 --> 00:12:01,333 I didn't get an answer from him, but I asked someone else. 203 00:12:01,401 --> 00:12:03,096 They're, like, "Oh, those are the dudes he's killed." 204 00:12:09,609 --> 00:12:14,569 [ Montalvo ] People outside this room are not our friends, not one. 205 00:12:14,647 --> 00:12:17,548 We have to protect the zone. 206 00:12:17,617 --> 00:12:21,075 Nobody gets in the zone. Nobody comes in this room. 207 00:12:21,154 --> 00:12:23,520 We don't talk to anybody. They-- They-- 208 00:12:23,589 --> 00:12:25,784 Nothing. Okay? They are on lockdown. 209 00:12:25,858 --> 00:12:28,691 [ Emma ] It is a military justice system. 210 00:12:28,761 --> 00:12:33,596 Unlike the civilian world where there are impartial parties... 211 00:12:33,666 --> 00:12:38,296 the people that are accusing Adam of these very crimes are... 212 00:12:38,371 --> 00:12:41,067 in essence, the same people that determine... 213 00:12:41,140 --> 00:12:44,007 who will hear the case, who will be the jury... 214 00:12:44,077 --> 00:12:47,376 and who will hand down the decision for sentencing. 215 00:12:47,447 --> 00:12:50,473 They are the judge and jury. 216 00:12:51,818 --> 00:12:54,719 Literally, judge and jury. 217 00:12:54,787 --> 00:12:56,379 So, talking to any of them... 218 00:12:56,456 --> 00:13:00,392 even if they have a smile on their face, means absolutely nothing. 219 00:13:00,460 --> 00:13:02,985 They're all the enemy. 220 00:13:05,031 --> 00:13:09,331 [ Emma ] And so we go into every meeting... 221 00:13:09,402 --> 00:13:13,600 knowing that we're fighting for his life. 222 00:13:20,847 --> 00:13:22,815 [ Morlock ] Me and Gibbs spent a lot of time together... 223 00:13:22,882 --> 00:13:25,077 on the same truck for those first couple weeks. 224 00:13:26,786 --> 00:13:29,448 We were just getting to know each other and shooting the shit. 225 00:13:29,522 --> 00:13:31,353 "Hey, what was your last deployment like?" 226 00:13:31,424 --> 00:13:33,392 He spoke specifically about one incident I remember. 227 00:13:33,459 --> 00:13:36,724 Uh, when he was in Iraq, he was a SAW gunner. 228 00:13:36,796 --> 00:13:39,697 And, um, he was crossing a road. I don't know. 229 00:13:39,765 --> 00:13:43,428 And, um, a car was coming at him, didn't stop... 230 00:13:43,503 --> 00:13:47,735 so he opened up on the car, and it ended up being a family. 231 00:13:47,807 --> 00:13:50,275 I think, a mother, father and a small child was killed. 232 00:13:51,344 --> 00:13:52,834 He could have stopped the vehicle... 233 00:13:52,912 --> 00:13:55,107 or let them go by and nothing would have came of it... 234 00:13:55,181 --> 00:13:57,342 but he described it to me as, like, he was looking... 235 00:13:57,416 --> 00:13:59,384 for that opportunity for a while and had been. 236 00:13:59,452 --> 00:14:02,910 'Cause that could have been something very easily turned around and justified. 237 00:14:02,989 --> 00:14:05,685 You could easily justify that situation. 238 00:14:05,758 --> 00:14:07,248 They were charging. 239 00:14:07,326 --> 00:14:08,953 There was no one there to see anything different. 240 00:14:09,028 --> 00:14:11,656 He was, like, "Yeah, dude. I just said this and it was cool. 241 00:14:11,731 --> 00:14:13,995 No one questioned it. You know, it was that easy." 242 00:14:15,067 --> 00:14:17,558 So, that was, like, the first step... 243 00:14:17,637 --> 00:14:20,037 which ultimately ended up leading into our own conversations... 244 00:14:20,106 --> 00:14:24,167 about how we could maybe implement things in that sort of same way. 245 00:14:26,145 --> 00:14:27,772 The first conversation was-- 246 00:14:27,847 --> 00:14:30,645 It was based around the idea of a drop weapon. 247 00:14:32,318 --> 00:14:33,945 I've always heard about people, you know... 248 00:14:34,020 --> 00:14:35,988 in Iraq or Afghanistan or whatnot... 249 00:14:36,055 --> 00:14:40,048 when you find a weapon, you know, you hold onto it in case you need it. 250 00:14:40,126 --> 00:14:42,253 In case, you know, some, you know-- 251 00:14:42,328 --> 00:14:45,525 A civilian gets hit, and you need to drop it on 'em... 252 00:14:45,598 --> 00:14:48,863 so they're not, you know, they don't look innocent. 253 00:14:48,935 --> 00:14:53,497 During one of our smoke sessions, Morlock brought up the fact... 254 00:14:53,573 --> 00:14:57,669 that he could get easy kills by, uh, setting people up. 255 00:14:58,744 --> 00:15:00,234 He said he'd been talking... 256 00:15:00,313 --> 00:15:03,714 with Sergeant Gibbs, and he was telling him how he could get a kill. 257 00:15:03,783 --> 00:15:06,775 Just buy a hand grenade off the books. That's all you need. 258 00:15:06,852 --> 00:15:08,979 The idea he kind of pitched me was, like, "Well, hey, dude. 259 00:15:09,055 --> 00:15:11,216 I've got a couple extra grenades that aren't being tracked." 260 00:15:11,290 --> 00:15:15,954 So, the idea, we could say, was we were approached by a local-- 261 00:15:16,028 --> 00:15:18,258 a bad guy, was what we'll call him-- 262 00:15:18,331 --> 00:15:20,162 and he approached us, we-- 263 00:15:20,233 --> 00:15:21,723 He either threw the grenade at us... 264 00:15:21,801 --> 00:15:23,393 or we noticed the grenade in his hand... 265 00:15:23,469 --> 00:15:25,460 and we detonate the grenade to make it look... 266 00:15:25,538 --> 00:15:28,029 like this guy was attacking us and we had to take him out. 267 00:15:29,108 --> 00:15:30,598 Who in their right mind's... 268 00:15:30,676 --> 00:15:32,166 gonna think that we made this up? 269 00:15:32,245 --> 00:15:35,339 If we-- I mean, it's a believable enough situation to where... 270 00:15:35,414 --> 00:15:37,678 who's gonna question it, you know what I mean? 271 00:15:37,750 --> 00:15:40,116 So, you're just, like, "Well, you're right. 272 00:15:40,186 --> 00:15:42,746 Doesn't sound-- Yeah. We could pull that off." 273 00:15:43,823 --> 00:15:46,018 On our minds, we'd been here for months. 274 00:15:46,092 --> 00:15:48,253 And nobody's innocent because these guys... 275 00:15:48,327 --> 00:15:51,353 either know the Taliban, they're either working with them-- 276 00:15:51,430 --> 00:15:52,920 and they're not working with, or for us... 277 00:15:52,999 --> 00:15:55,559 and we're here to help 'em, and they don't give us any help. 278 00:15:55,635 --> 00:15:57,694 We're getting blown up every time we go out there... 279 00:15:57,770 --> 00:16:00,933 to, you know, to talk with them or build them a well, so fuck 'em. 280 00:16:04,010 --> 00:16:06,604 [ Traffic Passing ] 281 00:16:06,679 --> 00:16:10,115 [ Man Calling Cadence ] 282 00:16:16,289 --> 00:16:18,018 [ Winfield ] Ever since I made... 283 00:16:18,090 --> 00:16:24,120 my first statement, it's just been fear of the guys from my platoon. 284 00:16:24,196 --> 00:16:28,292 I get nightmares about that even, just them hunting me. 285 00:16:32,672 --> 00:16:34,867 And it's always back over there too. 286 00:16:34,940 --> 00:16:36,805 [ Psychiatrist ] It's back in the theater. 287 00:16:36,876 --> 00:16:38,707 It's not-- It's never in the States. 288 00:16:38,778 --> 00:16:41,872 It's always-- I'm always over there. 289 00:16:41,947 --> 00:16:46,043 In the last year, I felt kind of... 290 00:16:46,118 --> 00:16:53,217 as the enemy of the platoon, because I was one of the few to come clean and-- 291 00:16:54,627 --> 00:16:57,061 And do you die in these nightmares? 292 00:16:57,129 --> 00:16:58,619 - You do? - Mm-hmm. 293 00:16:58,698 --> 00:17:00,222 How do they kill you? 294 00:17:00,299 --> 00:17:02,062 They blow me up, mostly. 295 00:17:02,134 --> 00:17:04,898 Normally, it involves a grenade. 296 00:17:04,970 --> 00:17:10,135 Couple times, it's been, like, blunt objects. 297 00:17:10,209 --> 00:17:13,144 And it's just not ever even have a chance to run from 'em. 298 00:17:13,212 --> 00:17:16,704 It's just-- They always catch me. 299 00:17:16,782 --> 00:17:21,048 You know, I've said some incriminating things about some of these guys... 300 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:23,918 and, you know, it's not hard for me to believe... 301 00:17:23,989 --> 00:17:26,924 that they would want some sort of retribution. 302 00:17:26,992 --> 00:17:29,392 And that's the worst part about it. 303 00:17:30,496 --> 00:17:32,657 The same people that I was-- 304 00:17:32,732 --> 00:17:36,896 been in fear of the last year are also the same people... 305 00:17:36,969 --> 00:17:40,905 that, you know, I've lived with the last four years. 306 00:17:40,973 --> 00:17:45,103 These people were my friends and, at some point in time... 307 00:17:45,177 --> 00:17:48,010 they were also willing to lay their life down for me. 308 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:52,176 And I, you know, I have to remember that. 309 00:18:36,662 --> 00:18:38,630 In La'l Mohammad Kalay... 310 00:18:38,697 --> 00:18:41,598 there was an incident with a grenade. 311 00:18:41,667 --> 00:18:43,635 [ Helicopter Whirring ] 312 00:18:48,974 --> 00:18:52,171 That day, you know, we had our high-ups... 313 00:18:52,244 --> 00:18:54,576 on the top of the hill talking to the village elder. 314 00:18:54,647 --> 00:18:56,945 Myself and, uh, Holmes found ourself... 315 00:18:57,016 --> 00:19:00,315 kind of secluded from the majority of the platoon. 316 00:19:00,386 --> 00:19:03,913 I was, like, "Hey, man. Let's see if we can get one of those guys over there. 317 00:19:03,989 --> 00:19:05,513 There's a guy farming a field." 318 00:19:06,592 --> 00:19:08,355 We talked about specifics. 319 00:19:08,427 --> 00:19:09,917 What was gonna happen. 320 00:19:09,995 --> 00:19:12,691 "Hey, this guy was coming towards us. We told him to stop. 321 00:19:12,765 --> 00:19:14,323 He didn't listen to our commands. 322 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,494 Holmes identified something in his hand. He thought it was a grenade. 323 00:19:17,570 --> 00:19:19,868 Threw something at us, and so we engaged him... 324 00:19:19,939 --> 00:19:21,429 and took cover behind the wall." 325 00:19:21,507 --> 00:19:22,997 And that's what we talked about. 326 00:19:23,075 --> 00:19:26,067 I'm standing back up, getting ready to look back over... 327 00:19:26,145 --> 00:19:30,479 and I have, you know, Morlock scream in my ear, "Grenadel Holmes, shoot him!" 328 00:19:30,549 --> 00:19:32,540 Pulled the grenade, dropped it, got down. 329 00:19:32,618 --> 00:19:35,485 Yelled at Holmes, "Fire." Which, you know, seemed like a fuckin' eternity. 330 00:19:35,554 --> 00:19:39,923 I had five seconds from the time that pin falls off from the grenade... 331 00:19:39,992 --> 00:19:41,482 until it will explode. 332 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,221 He let off a burst from the SAW. 333 00:19:43,295 --> 00:19:45,195 I pulled his ass down. Grenade goes off. 334 00:19:45,264 --> 00:19:47,960 A lot of confusion, a lot of dust come up, you know. 335 00:19:48,033 --> 00:19:51,127 I looked over to my left, 'cause that's where Morlock was. 336 00:19:51,203 --> 00:19:52,693 He had his back against the wall. 337 00:19:52,771 --> 00:19:54,295 He has his radio and he's yelling. 338 00:19:54,373 --> 00:19:57,467 Um, he was telling everyone, "Contact. Contact. Contact." 339 00:19:57,543 --> 00:20:02,207 I just heard, "Contact," and thought we got contact. 340 00:20:02,281 --> 00:20:04,146 Then, as soon as I heard the description... 341 00:20:04,216 --> 00:20:06,377 of what happened, it all clicked. 342 00:20:06,452 --> 00:20:10,081 That he just said that someone tried to throw a hand grenade... 343 00:20:10,155 --> 00:20:12,282 at him and Holmes and they shot him. 344 00:20:12,358 --> 00:20:15,225 And that was the same scenario he explained to me. 345 00:20:15,294 --> 00:20:18,195 And I look over and I ask him, you know, "Do we reengage?" 346 00:20:18,264 --> 00:20:21,893 Do we get back up and, you know, shoot the guy or whatnot? 347 00:20:21,967 --> 00:20:23,594 And, uh, Morlock didn't answer me. 348 00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:26,900 He just stood back up, looked over at the guy who was on the ground... 349 00:20:26,972 --> 00:20:29,941 you know, pulled up his M4 and just pop, pop, two more shots. 350 00:20:32,745 --> 00:20:34,372 [ Morlock ] He didn't register as a person. 351 00:20:34,446 --> 00:20:37,882 He wasn't-- He was just, you know, there. 352 00:20:42,655 --> 00:20:44,350 I was excited. Me and Holmes both kinda were. 353 00:20:44,423 --> 00:20:48,086 I mean, like he said, it plays that whole... 354 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,651 you know, ideology of the infantry world. 355 00:20:50,729 --> 00:20:52,526 It was just like, "Fuck. Right on, man." 356 00:20:52,598 --> 00:20:55,192 We got a kill, whether, you know, it was-- 357 00:20:55,267 --> 00:20:56,928 we knew he was a bad guy or not. 358 00:20:57,002 --> 00:20:59,197 So they brought the father down, the brother down. 359 00:20:59,271 --> 00:21:01,398 They said, "Well, do you know this guy?" 360 00:21:01,473 --> 00:21:03,373 The guy goes, "Yeah. That's my son." 361 00:21:04,543 --> 00:21:07,171 And, uh, the brother's sitting there... 362 00:21:07,246 --> 00:21:10,579 and they just-- they're both just crying. You know. 363 00:21:12,184 --> 00:21:15,278 We then put him in a black body bag... 364 00:21:15,354 --> 00:21:18,915 and took him to the top of the village. 365 00:21:18,991 --> 00:21:22,222 And strapped him down to the front of one of the Strykers... 366 00:21:22,294 --> 00:21:25,092 and we took him back to the-- to the FOB. 367 00:21:25,164 --> 00:21:26,654 Jumped back in the truck. 368 00:21:26,732 --> 00:21:31,328 You know, we're all hyped up on all this freakin' adrenaline... 369 00:21:31,403 --> 00:21:33,166 and just not knowing what's gonna happen next. 370 00:21:33,238 --> 00:21:38,175 And we get back to the FOB and, you know, it was-- 371 00:21:38,243 --> 00:21:40,643 it was like I was looked upon like a-- like a hero. 372 00:21:40,713 --> 00:21:43,409 They were gettin' all the applause. 373 00:21:43,482 --> 00:21:47,043 Everybody was, you know, giving 'em high fives and handshakes... 374 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,021 and, you know, telling 'em they're, you know, made men... 375 00:21:51,090 --> 00:21:54,719 and, you know, they're the-- everyone needs to look up to them. 376 00:21:54,793 --> 00:21:56,590 And, you know, I knew differently. 377 00:21:56,662 --> 00:22:00,826 And everybody else knew differently too, but it was accepted. 378 00:22:00,899 --> 00:22:03,993 Anybody with half a brain can go... 379 00:22:04,069 --> 00:22:09,405 "Okay. You guys set this guy up to get shot. Whatever." 380 00:22:10,609 --> 00:22:12,099 I didn't care. 381 00:22:12,177 --> 00:22:14,975 And I remember we were smokin', we were high. 382 00:22:15,047 --> 00:22:19,279 And Morlock's like, "Man. You know, we straight murdered that dude." 383 00:22:25,290 --> 00:22:26,814 [ Bird Calls ] 384 00:22:26,892 --> 00:22:28,382 [ Phone Rings ] 385 00:22:29,795 --> 00:22:31,285 - [ Chris ] Hello? - [ Automated Voice ] Hello. 386 00:22:31,363 --> 00:22:33,092 This call is from a collection facility... 387 00:22:33,165 --> 00:22:34,792 and is subject to monitoring and recording. 388 00:22:34,867 --> 00:22:36,630 [ Winfield ] Hey. 389 00:22:36,702 --> 00:22:38,636 - Hey. How you doing? - All right. 390 00:22:38,704 --> 00:22:40,365 - How was your day? - It was okay. 391 00:22:40,439 --> 00:22:41,929 Was it? What'd you do today? 392 00:22:42,007 --> 00:22:43,668 Anything? Did you get to go outside at all? 393 00:22:43,742 --> 00:22:47,644 - Got back from rec. - Did you? That's good. 394 00:22:49,314 --> 00:22:52,772 [ Chris On Phone ] We're probably thinking of Mom coming out next Friday. 395 00:22:52,851 --> 00:22:55,342 - What's the point? - What do you mean, what's the point? 396 00:22:55,421 --> 00:22:56,911 [ Winfield ] I'm not getting out. 397 00:22:56,989 --> 00:23:01,016 [ Emma ] Adam, don't start losing faith now. 398 00:23:01,093 --> 00:23:03,687 I mean, I know that you're there day to day... 399 00:23:03,762 --> 00:23:06,526 but, believe me, my heart breaks every day too. 400 00:23:06,598 --> 00:23:08,088 [ Winfield ] I know. 401 00:23:08,167 --> 00:23:12,228 [ Emma ] And maybe I'm not confined, but I am confined. 402 00:23:19,011 --> 00:23:21,241 [ Chris ] When I joined the Marine Corps, it was peacetime. 403 00:23:21,313 --> 00:23:23,281 It was-- It was completely different. 404 00:23:23,348 --> 00:23:27,876 When Adam came home and said he wanted to join the service, we were in war. 405 00:23:27,953 --> 00:23:32,049 I had a couple long talks with Adam about that. 406 00:23:32,124 --> 00:23:34,115 You know, he had pretty much told us that... 407 00:23:34,193 --> 00:23:36,661 you know, "I want your permission... 408 00:23:36,729 --> 00:23:39,596 but, you know, when I turn 18, I'm gonna sign up anyway." 409 00:23:39,665 --> 00:23:43,533 If we made him wait until he was 18, there was always gonna be that... 410 00:23:43,602 --> 00:23:46,571 "They didn't believe in me and they didn't think I could do this." 411 00:23:46,638 --> 00:23:50,074 And I didn't ever want Adam to feel like we didn't believe in him. 412 00:23:54,046 --> 00:23:56,139 When we flew out there and he said... 413 00:23:56,215 --> 00:23:58,649 "This is it. I'm going to Afghanistan." 414 00:24:00,652 --> 00:24:02,517 I told him, "Don't be a hero. 415 00:24:02,588 --> 00:24:05,352 Just do your job and come home." 416 00:24:14,566 --> 00:24:18,593 [ Call To Prayer ] 417 00:24:26,245 --> 00:24:28,440 Gibbs, like, a couple hours after we got back... 418 00:24:28,514 --> 00:24:30,004 is like, "Hey, Holmes, come check this out." 419 00:24:30,082 --> 00:24:32,277 So, I walked in the tent back to his room... 420 00:24:32,351 --> 00:24:35,320 and he pulls out a little piece of cloth inside of a bag... 421 00:24:35,387 --> 00:24:37,184 and he pulls out a finger... 422 00:24:37,256 --> 00:24:39,087 and he's like, "This is from your guy." 423 00:24:39,158 --> 00:24:40,716 [ Morlock ] His idea behind it was... 424 00:24:40,793 --> 00:24:43,318 he was gonna take the fingers and then let them decompose... 425 00:24:43,395 --> 00:24:46,558 and then take the bone and make a finger bone necklace out of it. 426 00:24:46,632 --> 00:24:48,657 And you're, yeah, well, fuck, lookin' at it... 427 00:24:48,734 --> 00:24:50,565 it's like, "All right. That's pretty fuckin' crazy, dude." 428 00:24:50,636 --> 00:24:53,366 But, at the same time, like, our mind-sets... 429 00:24:53,438 --> 00:24:55,429 are not on the normal level of everybody else's... 430 00:24:55,507 --> 00:24:57,031 and so it was just like-- 431 00:24:57,109 --> 00:25:00,670 I mean, war trophies have been, you know, since the Bible. 432 00:25:00,746 --> 00:25:03,806 They cut Solomon's head off. You know what I mean? So, it's just like-- 433 00:25:03,882 --> 00:25:06,214 Then we're there, and you're seeing bluts and gore all the time. 434 00:25:06,285 --> 00:25:08,116 It's war, and you're just like, "All right. Well, whatever." 435 00:25:08,187 --> 00:25:09,950 I'm not gonna make a fuckin' bone necklace... 436 00:25:10,022 --> 00:25:11,512 but if you want one, man, whatever. 437 00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:13,217 That's cool. It's your thing. Go for it. 438 00:25:13,292 --> 00:25:15,852 [ Winfield ] I just thought, "What happened to these guys? 439 00:25:15,928 --> 00:25:18,328 What happened to the guys that I knew? 440 00:25:19,231 --> 00:25:21,165 Why are they all okay with this? 441 00:25:21,233 --> 00:25:22,996 Why isn't anyone stepping up? 442 00:25:23,068 --> 00:25:29,496 Like, why am I the only one that's not okay with this? 443 00:25:29,575 --> 00:25:31,702 Why is it just me?" 444 00:25:55,467 --> 00:25:56,661 [ Blip ] 445 00:26:01,740 --> 00:26:03,139 [ Blip ] 446 00:26:08,814 --> 00:26:10,372 [ Blip ] 447 00:26:17,322 --> 00:26:18,880 [ Blip ] 448 00:26:26,265 --> 00:26:27,755 [ Blip ] 449 00:26:36,842 --> 00:26:38,173 [ Blip ] 450 00:26:47,386 --> 00:26:51,186 Adam had to actually tell me in the Facebook chat... 451 00:26:51,256 --> 00:26:54,123 "Don't you understand what I'm saying? 452 00:26:54,192 --> 00:26:56,422 That they're killing people here... 453 00:26:56,495 --> 00:26:59,896 that are innocent." 454 00:26:59,965 --> 00:27:03,560 I had to do a double take and it just was like, "Whew." 455 00:27:07,873 --> 00:27:15,336 It was, like, uh, a rush just came over me. Just-- 456 00:27:27,893 --> 00:27:29,918 The only thing I could think of was... 457 00:27:29,995 --> 00:27:31,929 he was, like, 8,000 miles away... 458 00:27:31,997 --> 00:27:33,931 and there was nothing I could do. 459 00:27:38,737 --> 00:27:40,364 [ Blip ] 460 00:27:47,846 --> 00:27:49,336 [ Blip ] 461 00:27:56,788 --> 00:27:58,278 [ Blip ] 462 00:28:04,796 --> 00:28:06,286 [ Blip ] 463 00:28:10,869 --> 00:28:12,359 [ Blip ] 464 00:28:17,109 --> 00:28:18,599 [ Blip ] 465 00:28:29,821 --> 00:28:31,311 [ Winfield ] I couldn't take any more. 466 00:28:31,390 --> 00:28:35,121 I wanted to tell somebody what was going on. 467 00:28:35,193 --> 00:28:38,685 I didn't have access to the MPs. 468 00:28:38,764 --> 00:28:40,254 If I told someone... 469 00:28:40,332 --> 00:28:42,960 in the chain of command, it would come right back... 470 00:28:43,035 --> 00:28:45,367 'cause that's how things are in the infantry. 471 00:28:45,437 --> 00:28:47,997 We tend to handle things in house. 472 00:28:50,509 --> 00:28:53,501 I felt like I had nowhere to go in the platoon. 473 00:28:53,578 --> 00:28:58,379 Everybody was on Sergeant Gibbs' side, and he had their loyalty. 474 00:28:59,484 --> 00:29:02,578 So, it's my word against 30 other guys. 475 00:29:05,657 --> 00:29:07,147 Someone had told us that Winfield... 476 00:29:07,225 --> 00:29:08,886 was gonna go out and talk to the chaplain... 477 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,087 'cause he was having, uh, issues. 478 00:29:11,163 --> 00:29:13,427 I can tell the chaplain. He's not gonna fail me. 479 00:29:13,498 --> 00:29:15,625 He's the chaplain. 480 00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:18,225 And, uh, before I went over there... 481 00:29:18,303 --> 00:29:21,932 to talk to the chaplain, Sergeant Gibbs escorted me. 482 00:29:23,041 --> 00:29:24,702 As we're walking down there, he says... 483 00:29:24,776 --> 00:29:26,471 "You're not thinking about saying anything... 484 00:29:26,545 --> 00:29:28,479 that you shouldn't be talking about, are you?" 485 00:29:28,547 --> 00:29:30,037 [ Morlock ] So, Gibbs-- I don't even know... 486 00:29:30,115 --> 00:29:31,605 when it took place. 487 00:29:31,683 --> 00:29:33,241 You know, brought up the idea, kinda like... 488 00:29:33,318 --> 00:29:34,876 "Hey. man, Winfield might be a liability. 489 00:29:34,953 --> 00:29:36,887 I might have to take that guy out." 490 00:29:36,955 --> 00:29:38,946 I go, "What the fuck you talkin' about, man?" 491 00:29:39,024 --> 00:29:41,618 He says, "Well, you know, he knows a lot of stuff... 492 00:29:41,693 --> 00:29:43,524 about what's going on and what we've done... 493 00:29:43,595 --> 00:29:46,120 and, you know, it's too easy." 494 00:29:46,198 --> 00:29:48,496 "What are you-- What do you mean, it's too easy?" 495 00:29:48,567 --> 00:29:50,057 And he says we could-- 496 00:29:50,135 --> 00:29:54,003 We could take him to the gym, drop a weight on his head. 497 00:29:54,072 --> 00:29:57,132 We can drop a tow bar on him, so he'll go away. 498 00:30:16,862 --> 00:30:19,194 I asked Morlock about it a few times. 499 00:30:19,264 --> 00:30:23,030 "Hey, man, what's going on? Are you guys plottin' on me or something?" 500 00:30:23,101 --> 00:30:25,865 And he even told me straight up, "Yeah. 501 00:30:25,937 --> 00:30:28,132 You know, we're thinkin' about doing something to you. 502 00:30:28,206 --> 00:30:32,802 Don't know what, but something, definitely." 503 00:30:37,449 --> 00:30:39,246 Okay. So you got safety on on white. 504 00:30:39,317 --> 00:30:40,807 [ Girl ] Mm-hmm. 505 00:30:40,886 --> 00:30:43,150 Flip it up to red. You're ready to go. 506 00:30:43,221 --> 00:30:44,711 - Mm-hmm. - Okay? 507 00:30:46,625 --> 00:30:50,823 [ Fires Three Shots ] 508 00:31:00,038 --> 00:31:03,769 [ Chris ] You know, this has become a big story in the press... 509 00:31:03,842 --> 00:31:06,970 and we had people standing at our front door with cameras. 510 00:31:07,045 --> 00:31:09,309 We had people following us everywhere I went. 511 00:31:09,381 --> 00:31:12,839 You get people that think the worst of everything... 512 00:31:12,918 --> 00:31:14,613 and they, you know, they hear... 513 00:31:14,686 --> 00:31:17,086 "Oh, he's arrested for murder, then he must be guilty." 514 00:31:17,155 --> 00:31:18,645 Three. 515 00:31:18,723 --> 00:31:20,520 - How many can you put in there? - Eleven. 516 00:31:20,592 --> 00:31:23,288 We have had some threats. 517 00:31:23,361 --> 00:31:24,851 I mean, not in so many words... 518 00:31:24,930 --> 00:31:26,591 but you could read between the lines... 519 00:31:26,665 --> 00:31:29,429 that "we know where you live, we know your address." 520 00:31:29,501 --> 00:31:32,595 And I have to protect my family. 521 00:31:32,671 --> 00:31:35,105 It's a 9mm Ruger. 522 00:31:35,173 --> 00:31:38,700 I have it sitting by the bedside, loaded and ready to go. 523 00:31:38,777 --> 00:31:40,108 [ Fires ] 524 00:31:40,178 --> 00:31:42,578 We don't want to be caught with our guard down. 525 00:31:42,647 --> 00:31:44,774 [ Fires ] 526 00:31:46,751 --> 00:31:48,082 [ Blip ] 527 00:31:55,327 --> 00:31:56,817 [ Blip ] 528 00:32:04,369 --> 00:32:06,166 [ Blip ] 529 00:32:13,111 --> 00:32:14,601 [ Blip ] 530 00:32:20,852 --> 00:32:25,084 So, I started making phone calls. I didn't know who to call. 531 00:32:25,156 --> 00:32:29,320 I was getting voice mail everywhere I called, for the most part. 532 00:32:29,394 --> 00:32:31,328 Um, and I was leaving messages... 533 00:32:31,396 --> 00:32:33,091 hoping somebody would call me back. 534 00:32:33,164 --> 00:32:35,655 I thought about, you know, what I would have to do... 535 00:32:35,734 --> 00:32:37,998 if they came after me in the middle of the night. 536 00:32:39,070 --> 00:32:41,470 I kept a gun always around me... 537 00:32:41,539 --> 00:32:44,736 and, you know, a knife on me handy and stuff like that... 538 00:32:44,809 --> 00:32:47,107 and always looked over my shoulder all the time. 539 00:32:47,178 --> 00:32:50,409 I was frantic. I was just-- I was just panicking. 540 00:32:50,482 --> 00:32:52,643 I was loud. I was, "Please call me back." 541 00:32:52,717 --> 00:32:54,776 I mean, there was stress in my voice, and I-- 542 00:32:54,853 --> 00:32:57,845 and, you know, I was just-- I did not-- 543 00:32:57,922 --> 00:33:00,083 I was scrambling. I didn't know who to call. 544 00:33:00,158 --> 00:33:04,185 Gibbs seemed like he was recruiting more people... 545 00:33:04,262 --> 00:33:07,129 to this kill team idea, basically. 546 00:33:07,198 --> 00:33:09,666 I, you know, I see other squad leaders, other soldiers... 547 00:33:09,734 --> 00:33:11,224 going up to Sergeant Gibbs... 548 00:33:11,303 --> 00:33:12,998 "Hey, man, you gotta get me a kill. 549 00:33:13,071 --> 00:33:14,629 You gotta help me get something." 550 00:33:14,706 --> 00:33:16,367 And he'd be, like, "Just tell me when." 551 00:33:16,441 --> 00:33:20,002 I called the army. Called the army hotline. 552 00:33:20,078 --> 00:33:23,809 I called, um, Army C.I.D. in Virginia... 553 00:33:23,882 --> 00:33:25,372 the main C.I.D. office. 554 00:33:25,450 --> 00:33:27,213 I caIIed the C.I.D. office in Fort-- 555 00:33:27,285 --> 00:33:29,344 I kept calling, I kept calling, I kept calling numbers. 556 00:33:29,421 --> 00:33:30,911 I called Senator Bill Nelson's office. 557 00:33:30,989 --> 00:33:32,479 Figured somebody would definitely be there... 558 00:33:32,557 --> 00:33:34,047 at the army chaplain's office at Fort Lewis. 559 00:33:34,125 --> 00:33:36,559 Chaplain and the assistant chaplain. I called both, got messages... 560 00:33:36,628 --> 00:33:38,892 voice messages on both of 'em. 561 00:33:38,963 --> 00:33:40,954 Sergeant Gibbs, the whole time, he was talking shit to me... 562 00:33:41,032 --> 00:33:43,330 calling me a pussy and this and that. 563 00:33:43,401 --> 00:33:46,996 Saying, you know, I should be down to kill. They're all savages. 564 00:33:47,072 --> 00:33:48,630 And, you know, they're pieces of shit. 565 00:33:48,707 --> 00:33:50,197 They're not worth anything. 566 00:33:50,275 --> 00:33:52,072 And that was just everyone's attitude, really. 567 00:33:52,143 --> 00:33:54,509 I finally got a hold of somebody at Fort Lewis... 568 00:33:54,579 --> 00:33:57,070 at the-- at the-- at the Command Center... 569 00:33:57,148 --> 00:33:59,673 and I told the guy the whole story. 570 00:34:00,752 --> 00:34:02,845 The guy said, "Nothin' I can do about it. 571 00:34:02,921 --> 00:34:05,048 It's your son's word against everybody else's. 572 00:34:05,123 --> 00:34:07,421 Unless somebody else comes out and says the same story... 573 00:34:07,492 --> 00:34:08,982 then I can't do anything." 574 00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:11,722 And I expected, within a few days... 575 00:34:11,796 --> 00:34:14,026 someone to just come grab me in the middle of the night... 576 00:34:14,099 --> 00:34:18,058 and say, "Hey. Come with us. It's over. You're safe." 577 00:34:18,136 --> 00:34:19,831 And then it never happened. 578 00:34:24,809 --> 00:34:28,040 This is another option on the table. 579 00:34:28,113 --> 00:34:30,911 I think this is the realest and most truest option. 580 00:34:30,982 --> 00:34:34,918 [ Winfield ] There's been talk of a plea deal. 581 00:34:34,986 --> 00:34:38,387 My lawyer is trying to talk the charge down. 582 00:34:38,456 --> 00:34:39,946 That it's not-- 583 00:34:40,024 --> 00:34:41,719 That I'm not guilty of first-degree murder. 584 00:34:41,793 --> 00:34:45,593 Don't get visceral on me, just hear what I'm saying. Okay? 585 00:34:45,663 --> 00:34:48,860 Cowardly conduct. Okay? 586 00:34:48,933 --> 00:34:52,369 "That the accused committed an act of cowardice. "Okay? 587 00:34:52,437 --> 00:34:56,965 In this scenario, you didn't stop them from doing something bad. 588 00:34:57,041 --> 00:34:59,305 - Mm-hmm. - Okay? 'Cause you were scared. 589 00:34:59,377 --> 00:35:03,336 "Conduct is cowardly only if it amounts to misbehavior... 590 00:35:03,415 --> 00:35:04,905 which was motivated by fear. 591 00:35:04,983 --> 00:35:07,349 A mere display of apprehension is not sufficient. 592 00:35:07,419 --> 00:35:09,751 Cowardly conduct is the refusal or abandonment... 593 00:35:09,821 --> 00:35:12,483 of the performance of duty before or in the presence... 594 00:35:12,557 --> 00:35:15,993 of the enemy as a result of fear." Okay? 595 00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:20,463 Well, the enemy in this case was not only the Taliban man, but it was also Gibbs. 596 00:35:20,532 --> 00:35:25,196 I mean, the guy was continuing to threaten to kill you. 597 00:35:26,838 --> 00:35:30,365 [ Emma ] What's the-- What are you looking at? 598 00:35:30,442 --> 00:35:34,105 I mean, I get the misbehavior before the enemy, cowardly conduct charge. 599 00:35:34,179 --> 00:35:35,669 Mm-hmm. 600 00:35:35,747 --> 00:35:38,215 What are you looking for as the cap to-- 601 00:35:38,283 --> 00:35:40,012 Eight years. 602 00:36:00,705 --> 00:36:03,435 Time went on, and the second murder happened... 603 00:36:03,508 --> 00:36:07,410 which, at first, I didn't even know it was a murder again. 604 00:36:07,479 --> 00:36:09,538 I thought this was a real engagement. 605 00:36:10,849 --> 00:36:12,714 I heard Morlock and Sergeant Gibbs... 606 00:36:12,784 --> 00:36:14,376 joking and talking about it. 607 00:36:14,452 --> 00:36:17,580 And I found out what really happened. 608 00:36:17,655 --> 00:36:22,558 Set up a kill with an AK. Shot a dude, just, you know, in cold blood. 609 00:36:22,627 --> 00:36:26,688 Dropped the AK next to him and said it was a legit shoot. 610 00:36:31,202 --> 00:36:33,932 It seemed like everything was falling apart... 611 00:36:34,005 --> 00:36:35,905 just from the seams. 612 00:36:35,974 --> 00:36:42,243 My whole unit, my whole, just, concept of... 613 00:36:42,313 --> 00:36:45,476 the military and honor and integrity... 614 00:36:45,550 --> 00:36:49,486 and just, you know, the image you get from a soldier... 615 00:36:49,554 --> 00:36:51,988 what you would expect a soldier to be. 616 00:36:52,056 --> 00:36:54,991 About to show you what Apaches do... 617 00:36:55,059 --> 00:36:57,619 to fuckin' bodies. All right? 618 00:36:58,263 --> 00:37:00,254 [ Man Laughing ] 619 00:37:03,001 --> 00:37:05,902 It's a good shoot. He's dead as a motherfucker. 620 00:37:07,338 --> 00:37:09,704 - Word. - Don't show 'em that shit, man. 621 00:37:12,277 --> 00:37:13,767 [ Laughing ] 622 00:37:13,845 --> 00:37:15,472 [ Morlock ] Everybody had their own cameras. 623 00:37:15,547 --> 00:37:18,107 Take a picture of your little combat experience. Sure. Why the hell not? 624 00:37:18,182 --> 00:37:21,208 You sit down with all your squad leaders and, you know, other guys... 625 00:37:21,286 --> 00:37:24,517 and they all bust out their DVDs and discs of their prior deployments... 626 00:37:24,589 --> 00:37:27,387 and, you know, "Hey, look at these dead guys we killed here." 627 00:37:28,459 --> 00:37:29,949 Death and dead bodies... 628 00:37:30,028 --> 00:37:32,496 and bluts and gore, and, you know, that thing-- 629 00:37:32,564 --> 00:37:35,533 You get taught to be the norm and be okay with it. 630 00:37:36,601 --> 00:37:38,091 [ Blip ] 631 00:37:46,177 --> 00:37:47,667 [ Blip ] 632 00:37:54,118 --> 00:37:55,608 [ Blip ] 633 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,650 [ Blip ] 634 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,890 [ Blip ] 635 00:38:16,541 --> 00:38:18,236 It was just that I was pissed at everything. 636 00:38:18,309 --> 00:38:21,972 I was pissed at the whole situation. Just-- 637 00:38:22,046 --> 00:38:25,413 What is-- Just-- What's the point of all this? 638 00:38:28,886 --> 00:38:30,683 And the thing that really got me was... 639 00:38:30,755 --> 00:38:33,451 from other stories I've heard from people from other units... 640 00:38:33,524 --> 00:38:35,424 I knew that this stuff happens more than-- 641 00:38:35,493 --> 00:38:36,983 Well, I knew that it was... 642 00:38:37,061 --> 00:38:40,292 happening really more than people were letting on. 643 00:39:09,794 --> 00:39:13,252 If I were to do it all over again, I would probably have kept calling... 644 00:39:13,331 --> 00:39:16,732 but it's easy to say that now as I'm sitting here. 645 00:39:16,801 --> 00:39:19,861 At the time, I was just worried what is-- 646 00:39:19,937 --> 00:39:24,033 If I continue to do this, am I gonna get my son killed? 647 00:39:24,108 --> 00:39:26,702 It was-- It was probably the most difficult decision... 648 00:39:26,778 --> 00:39:28,746 I have ever had to make in my life. 649 00:39:28,813 --> 00:39:31,941 You know, he only had a couple more months... 650 00:39:32,016 --> 00:39:34,541 and he would be home, and we would report it... 651 00:39:34,619 --> 00:39:38,146 and he would be safe. 652 00:39:38,222 --> 00:39:40,554 And it just didn't turn out that way. 653 00:39:50,835 --> 00:39:53,497 [ Chris ] Adam used to go in my closet and put on my uniform on. 654 00:39:53,571 --> 00:39:56,335 He would always look through my Marine Corps books. 655 00:39:56,407 --> 00:39:58,272 Essentlals of a Marine. 656 00:39:58,342 --> 00:40:00,242 Adam probably read that book 50 times. 657 00:40:02,213 --> 00:40:06,445 Before he was supposed to ship off to boot camp, he was about 100 pounds. 658 00:40:06,517 --> 00:40:08,007 He was too light, so... 659 00:40:08,086 --> 00:40:11,055 they picked up a gallon of water before they went in there... 660 00:40:11,122 --> 00:40:14,057 and they made him drink it and said, "Don't pee until you get weighed." 661 00:40:14,125 --> 00:40:16,593 So I just kind of stepped on the scale real fast... 662 00:40:16,661 --> 00:40:19,789 and got off and went to the bathroom and threw it up. 663 00:40:21,332 --> 00:40:24,267 But you know, I was-- I was really motivated to get in. 664 00:40:24,335 --> 00:40:26,929 And he's putting a pack that weighs 80 pounds on his body. 665 00:40:27,004 --> 00:40:28,562 It's, you know, almost heavier than him. 666 00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:33,133 So, you know, he had a lot-- He had a huge uphill battle to climb. 667 00:40:33,211 --> 00:40:34,735 [ Morlock ] See him, you're, like, ah, there's no-- 668 00:40:34,812 --> 00:40:37,337 That guy's in the infantry? No fuckin' way, you know what I mean? 669 00:40:37,415 --> 00:40:42,216 But he's got heart. If we were rockin' 20 miles, he's rockin' 20 miles. 670 00:40:42,286 --> 00:40:44,777 You'd run into some guy and-- "Oh, he's not infantry. 671 00:40:44,856 --> 00:40:46,346 Look at that scrawny little bastard." 672 00:40:46,424 --> 00:40:48,756 You could go up to him and be, like, "Hey, listen, motherfucker. 673 00:40:48,826 --> 00:40:51,761 He's probably the most squared-away, bad-ass infantryman I fuckin' know." 674 00:40:55,833 --> 00:40:58,063 [ Dog Barking ] 675 00:40:58,136 --> 00:41:00,127 [ Emma ] It just sounds heinous. It just sounds, you know-- 676 00:41:00,204 --> 00:41:02,900 Manslaughter just sounds horrible. 677 00:41:05,176 --> 00:41:08,168 [ Chris ] Just came from the prosecutor. They came back with-- 678 00:41:08,246 --> 00:41:10,874 This is what they are offering. 679 00:41:10,948 --> 00:41:13,678 Involuntary manslaughter. 680 00:41:13,751 --> 00:41:15,981 They're saying he failed to act when he could have acted. 681 00:41:16,053 --> 00:41:20,513 What they expect him to have done, I still don't quite understand. 682 00:41:20,591 --> 00:41:23,082 I don't know how Adam's gonna react to that. 683 00:41:23,161 --> 00:41:24,788 What do you think he's gonna say? 684 00:41:24,862 --> 00:41:27,831 Maybe, in his mind, it would be better to do involuntary manslaughter... 685 00:41:27,899 --> 00:41:30,697 than cowardice. 686 00:41:30,768 --> 00:41:33,100 I don't know. I don't know. 687 00:41:35,339 --> 00:41:39,241 The whole thing sucks. Bottom line. 688 00:41:39,310 --> 00:41:40,937 Yeah. They just still want to say... 689 00:41:41,012 --> 00:41:43,640 "Well, see, we got him and he was the bad guy." 690 00:41:43,714 --> 00:41:46,114 I think that's a bunch of crap. 691 00:41:46,184 --> 00:41:49,085 They still have to try to get him for eight years to make it look good? 692 00:41:49,153 --> 00:41:50,643 I've been saying that same thing. 693 00:41:53,524 --> 00:41:55,890 You know, at this point... 694 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,019 we don't have a choice. 695 00:42:01,566 --> 00:42:07,004 He's being forced to make another decision that... 696 00:42:07,071 --> 00:42:10,302 isn't right... 697 00:42:10,374 --> 00:42:13,400 no matter what he chooses. 698 00:42:13,477 --> 00:42:14,967 Again. 699 00:42:58,956 --> 00:43:03,359 Going on leave is probably one of the worst parts of deployment... 700 00:43:03,427 --> 00:43:06,021 'cause you go home, and you want everything to be normal. 701 00:43:06,097 --> 00:43:09,089 But nothing's normal. You're angry and you're pissed off. 702 00:43:09,166 --> 00:43:11,794 I mean, you know, you surround yourself... 703 00:43:11,869 --> 00:43:13,564 by people that love you and care about you... 704 00:43:13,638 --> 00:43:15,538 but you don't know how to deal with their emotions... 705 00:43:15,606 --> 00:43:19,201 'cause you don't have a grasp on your own, and it was just-- 706 00:43:19,277 --> 00:43:20,938 I don't know. It all weighed on me. 707 00:43:23,381 --> 00:43:27,181 I actually spent some time thinking about it quite a bit. Who I would tell. 708 00:43:27,251 --> 00:43:30,618 Would I talk to my girlfriend or my brother or my mom? 709 00:43:30,688 --> 00:43:32,815 But how do you tell somebody something like that, you know? 710 00:43:32,890 --> 00:43:35,984 And so, I don't know. I did what most guys do. 711 00:43:36,060 --> 00:43:37,789 Or, you know, most fuckin' macho. 712 00:43:37,862 --> 00:43:40,729 I just turned it inward. You know what I mean? 713 00:43:40,798 --> 00:43:43,460 I've never been a guy that's been really good with emotion to begin with... 714 00:43:43,534 --> 00:43:45,934 and so I did what I always did, you know? 715 00:43:46,003 --> 00:43:48,335 Buried-- Buried it and fuckin' powered through it. 716 00:43:50,841 --> 00:43:54,004 So, I got back, I think, sometime early, early April... 717 00:43:54,078 --> 00:43:56,512 and then, you know, instantly-- 718 00:43:56,580 --> 00:43:58,275 I mean, not even a day or an hour-- 719 00:43:58,349 --> 00:44:01,443 I literally got off the Black Hawk and made my way to my room... 720 00:44:01,519 --> 00:44:03,384 and ran straight into Gibbs. 721 00:44:03,454 --> 00:44:05,979 "Hey, look at all the fuckin' goodies I got while you were gone. 722 00:44:06,057 --> 00:44:08,150 And soon as I get back from patrol, I'll tell you... 723 00:44:08,225 --> 00:44:10,989 all the cool shit you missed while you were gone," you know? 724 00:44:11,062 --> 00:44:13,257 It was right there, right back into it. 725 00:44:22,473 --> 00:44:26,500 As long as they have, you know, open season... 726 00:44:26,577 --> 00:44:28,442 on whatever sentence the case they want to put... 727 00:44:28,512 --> 00:44:32,915 the worst he's going to get, regardless of the facts, is eight years. 728 00:44:32,984 --> 00:44:36,044 That's what the government's saying. The worst. 729 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,385 So, what-- What the hell matters is the charge. 730 00:44:39,457 --> 00:44:43,120 I can't reconcile with the fact that they won't move off this eight... 731 00:44:43,194 --> 00:44:45,754 regardless of what the charge is... 732 00:44:45,830 --> 00:44:49,391 when that's what Morlock got for murdering people. 733 00:44:49,467 --> 00:44:51,833 And I'm not saying that Adam was innocent... 734 00:44:51,902 --> 00:44:54,894 and that he made every single right decision... 735 00:44:54,972 --> 00:44:59,500 but I also know that on January 20, he e-mailed us-- 736 00:44:59,577 --> 00:45:04,571 as early as January 20-- saying, "There's something I need to talk to you about." 737 00:45:04,648 --> 00:45:09,017 And then February comes. Oh, well, you know what? Just suck it up. 738 00:45:09,086 --> 00:45:11,714 Suck it up and be a man. 739 00:45:11,789 --> 00:45:16,385 Gibbs is, what, a 200-and-something-pound man? 740 00:45:16,460 --> 00:45:18,189 This is the ultimate case of bullying... 741 00:45:18,262 --> 00:45:21,163 and I can't reconcile with the fact that they're just gonna say... 742 00:45:21,232 --> 00:45:23,860 "Well, let's give him eight years." 743 00:45:23,934 --> 00:45:26,528 The government can excuse themselves... 744 00:45:26,604 --> 00:45:31,564 from all of the missteps they made. 745 00:45:31,642 --> 00:45:33,633 But let's get-- Let's get, in your own words... 746 00:45:33,711 --> 00:45:36,271 let's get our pound of flesh from Adam Winfield... 747 00:45:36,347 --> 00:45:38,872 even though, of all the people out there... 748 00:45:38,949 --> 00:45:43,215 he was the only one that did anything. 749 00:45:43,287 --> 00:45:45,721 I-I-I have a problem with that. 750 00:45:45,790 --> 00:45:50,022 And I guess ultimately, it's not my issue. It's Adam's issue. 751 00:45:50,094 --> 00:45:53,291 But I have a problem with that, 'cause, to me, that's not justice. 752 00:45:53,364 --> 00:45:57,323 The army still has my son... 753 00:45:57,401 --> 00:46:00,802 and unless we do what they say, I never get him back. 754 00:46:04,642 --> 00:46:06,439 Listen, I know you're a mom. 755 00:46:06,510 --> 00:46:09,240 I know that's your child. I'm tracking on all that. 756 00:46:09,313 --> 00:46:13,044 But you are the only mom in the world to him. 757 00:46:13,117 --> 00:46:16,280 To everybody else, he's a soldier. 758 00:46:16,353 --> 00:46:18,617 - [ Door Hinge Squeaks ] - Thank you. 759 00:46:18,689 --> 00:46:20,782 [ Door Shuts ] 760 00:46:24,795 --> 00:46:26,592 So, what do you think? 761 00:46:26,664 --> 00:46:29,462 Fine. 762 00:46:29,533 --> 00:46:31,125 I don't really have a problem with it. 763 00:46:31,202 --> 00:46:32,794 Are you sure? 764 00:46:35,306 --> 00:46:38,935 'Cause ultimately, worst-case scenario... 765 00:46:39,009 --> 00:46:41,477 everything falls apart, it's eight years. 766 00:46:43,914 --> 00:46:47,850 And I don't want you to feel like we're giving up on you. 767 00:47:02,433 --> 00:47:04,333 Why are we making this deal? 768 00:47:06,937 --> 00:47:09,599 What else are we gonna do, Emma? We don't have a choice. 769 00:47:09,673 --> 00:47:11,470 Do we go to trial? No. 770 00:47:11,542 --> 00:47:13,942 We can't. 771 00:47:14,011 --> 00:47:16,707 I don't know, Chris. I just feel like in some ways... 772 00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:18,839 we're just leading him to the slaughter. 773 00:47:22,119 --> 00:47:24,917 I should have done more. 774 00:47:24,989 --> 00:47:28,254 I shouldn't have accepted the answer that I got. 775 00:47:28,325 --> 00:47:30,190 I've been thinking about that for a long time. 776 00:47:30,261 --> 00:47:33,230 It's always on my mind. [ Sniffs ] 777 00:47:35,432 --> 00:47:38,492 And we wouldn't be standing here right now if I'd done something more. 778 00:47:44,475 --> 00:47:46,909 [ Vehicle Rumbling ] 779 00:47:46,977 --> 00:47:49,912 [ Man On Radio, Indistinct ] 780 00:47:53,951 --> 00:47:56,476 [ Winfield ] March went by, April went by, and-- 781 00:47:56,554 --> 00:47:58,784 You know, we're coming up to the end. 782 00:47:58,856 --> 00:48:00,585 We got maybe one more big mission. 783 00:48:00,658 --> 00:48:02,956 I knew Sergeant Gibbs had a lot of stuff planned. 784 00:48:03,027 --> 00:48:04,517 If I could just hold out... 785 00:48:04,595 --> 00:48:09,294 two more months till June, July, and it's all over. 786 00:48:13,637 --> 00:48:15,127 [ Morlock ] The task on that day was... 787 00:48:15,206 --> 00:48:16,696 to go re-engage an individual... 788 00:48:16,774 --> 00:48:18,742 that had been arrested while I was on leave. 789 00:48:18,809 --> 00:48:20,538 They found an ID or something in his house... 790 00:48:20,611 --> 00:48:24,047 so the PO wanted to check him out and see what he's up to. 791 00:48:24,114 --> 00:48:27,811 Me and Winfield ended up leaving that compound... 792 00:48:27,885 --> 00:48:32,185 and then making our way towards an adjacent compound that's kind of attached to it. 793 00:48:32,256 --> 00:48:36,522 And then we ended up running into an individual, a local there. 794 00:48:36,594 --> 00:48:39,358 Sergeant Gibbs was coming around the other side. 795 00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:41,625 He had a few other guys with him. 796 00:48:41,699 --> 00:48:43,257 Most of the guys that were with him... 797 00:48:43,334 --> 00:48:45,234 kind of had an idea of what's going on, what-- 798 00:48:45,302 --> 00:48:48,271 You know, these sort of scenario things that had been taking place. 799 00:48:48,339 --> 00:48:52,070 Um, and then-- So, there wasn't a whole lot of conversation. 800 00:48:58,616 --> 00:49:02,575 I knew right then and there that I couldn't kill an innocent person. 801 00:49:02,653 --> 00:49:06,749 I couldn't shoot an innocent man just in cold blood. I couldn't do it. 802 00:49:06,824 --> 00:49:10,089 I didn't have it-- I didn't have any drive or want to do it. 803 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,253 I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to be there. 804 00:49:12,329 --> 00:49:13,853 I didn't want that situation. 805 00:49:13,931 --> 00:49:16,559 I wanted to get up and just run. 806 00:49:16,634 --> 00:49:18,124 Sergeant Gibbs started... 807 00:49:18,202 --> 00:49:20,932 you know, telling us how things were gonna go. 808 00:49:21,005 --> 00:49:23,166 Saying, you know, "We're gonna set this up... 809 00:49:23,240 --> 00:49:25,003 to make it look like we're doing a movement... 810 00:49:25,075 --> 00:49:28,067 and this guy came out and attacked us when we were passing through." 811 00:49:28,145 --> 00:49:30,079 "We saw a grenade. We had to shoot him. 812 00:49:30,147 --> 00:49:32,638 And that's, you know, that's the way it'll play out." 813 00:49:32,716 --> 00:49:37,915 My heart started going a thousand miles a minute. Just-- 814 00:49:37,988 --> 00:49:40,422 Just started getting nervous. 815 00:49:40,491 --> 00:49:43,426 My muscles started to twitch. Just-- 816 00:49:44,595 --> 00:49:46,654 I just froze. 817 00:49:46,730 --> 00:49:51,133 We were laying right next to each other, so I kinda talked him through it... 818 00:49:51,201 --> 00:49:53,601 speaking in his ear, letting him know, "Hey, yeah. 819 00:49:53,671 --> 00:49:55,400 Nothing to worry about, man. It's too easy. 820 00:49:55,472 --> 00:49:57,303 We've done it before. You got nothing to worry about. 821 00:49:57,374 --> 00:50:00,935 Stick to the story, and just get it over with." 822 00:50:01,011 --> 00:50:04,538 I can stand up and shoot Gibbs and Morlock. 823 00:50:04,615 --> 00:50:07,982 But shooting one of our own guys... 824 00:50:08,052 --> 00:50:13,012 over, in their opinion, over a worthless Afghan? 825 00:50:13,090 --> 00:50:15,786 Reason to show me absolutely no mercy. 826 00:50:16,860 --> 00:50:18,350 I fired... 827 00:50:18,429 --> 00:50:24,390 a couple shots off after the grenade blew up. 828 00:50:24,468 --> 00:50:26,663 I didn't aim at him. I didn't-- 829 00:50:26,737 --> 00:50:28,500 I just-- I drew my weapon away from him. 830 00:50:30,574 --> 00:50:34,010 After the dust settled from the explosion... 831 00:50:34,078 --> 00:50:38,606 Sergeant Gibbs walked up and, uh, smile on his face... 832 00:50:38,682 --> 00:50:41,310 and he just shot the guy two more times. 833 00:50:42,386 --> 00:50:43,876 Then he said, "Hey. 834 00:50:43,954 --> 00:50:46,115 Come take a picture with me with the body." 835 00:50:46,190 --> 00:50:48,283 And he told me that I was a made man... 836 00:50:48,359 --> 00:50:51,920 and I didn't have anything to worry about from him ever again. 837 00:51:00,037 --> 00:51:03,837 What, what-- What just happened? How did I get in-- 838 00:51:03,907 --> 00:51:07,172 I was doing fine just avoiding it, and now I'm in it. 839 00:51:12,349 --> 00:51:16,843 - His face is-- I can't forget his face. - [ Psychiatrist ] Yeah. 840 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,286 It's his dead face. 841 00:51:19,356 --> 00:51:20,846 His head just... 842 00:51:20,924 --> 00:51:24,485 you know, with shrapnel, and it's so swollen. 843 00:51:24,561 --> 00:51:26,722 I just see it staring at me all the time. 844 00:51:26,797 --> 00:51:28,458 Like whenever I think about it. 845 00:51:29,633 --> 00:51:32,693 And that scream from that woman. 846 00:51:32,770 --> 00:51:34,670 I'd never heard anything like it before. 847 00:51:34,738 --> 00:51:38,367 - I've never heard such sheer just grief. - Yeah. 848 00:51:44,415 --> 00:51:47,680 And that's, I'd say, the hardest part to live with is that. 849 00:51:47,751 --> 00:51:49,810 Yeah. 850 00:51:54,625 --> 00:52:00,029 And just the smile on his face when he shot that guy again. 851 00:52:00,097 --> 00:52:02,292 Gibbs's smile on his face? 852 00:52:02,366 --> 00:52:05,529 Yeah. It just-- He was pleased. He was happy. 853 00:52:05,602 --> 00:52:07,968 He just had this huge smile, a grin. 854 00:52:08,038 --> 00:52:11,565 - And just looked straight at me, smiling. - Oh. 855 00:52:13,877 --> 00:52:15,742 And then I just-- The thought that I know... 856 00:52:15,813 --> 00:52:18,748 he would have the same smile if he did it to me. 857 00:52:45,576 --> 00:52:49,945 [ Chris ] I'm living a nightmare right now. 858 00:52:52,082 --> 00:52:54,448 If I don't take sleeping medicine, I, I'm-- 859 00:52:54,518 --> 00:52:56,281 You know, I have nightmares. 860 00:52:56,353 --> 00:53:01,882 I fight-- I gotta fight this-- this evil monster in my dreams. 861 00:53:01,959 --> 00:53:04,826 A lot of times, I don't remember what they are. 862 00:53:04,895 --> 00:53:07,728 I just know that they're violent. 863 00:53:07,798 --> 00:53:09,493 I'll jump up and I'll try to get something... 864 00:53:09,566 --> 00:53:12,034 or grab it or stop it from coming. 865 00:53:12,102 --> 00:53:16,004 And I've actually physically fell out of bed a couple times doing that. 866 00:53:16,073 --> 00:53:17,836 I worry about Chris. 867 00:53:17,908 --> 00:53:24,746 Um, I think he's dealing with... 868 00:53:24,815 --> 00:53:26,305 maybe some guilt. 869 00:53:26,383 --> 00:53:28,908 Did I raise him right? You know, did I-- 870 00:53:28,986 --> 00:53:30,715 Should I have let him go in the army? 871 00:53:30,787 --> 00:53:33,381 Should I have continued to pursue it? 872 00:53:33,457 --> 00:53:35,425 You know, that-- It's-- 873 00:53:38,395 --> 00:53:41,364 You know, he's a great father. 874 00:53:43,233 --> 00:53:47,829 And when your son comes to you and asks for help... 875 00:53:47,905 --> 00:53:50,567 and you're not able to help him-- 876 00:53:52,543 --> 00:53:54,875 We tried to do the right thing, and... 877 00:53:57,748 --> 00:54:00,182 it still wasn't good enough. 878 00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:16,056 [ Helicopter Whirring ] 879 00:54:20,070 --> 00:54:21,935 [ Morlock ] We only had a couple months left deployment. 880 00:54:22,005 --> 00:54:23,563 We're safe from here on out. 881 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,370 The lid's on everything and the stories were in line... 882 00:54:26,443 --> 00:54:28,741 and we've got nothing to worry about. 883 00:54:28,812 --> 00:54:32,543 And that's when the whole incident with Stoner arose. 884 00:54:40,324 --> 00:54:41,882 Stoner went and expressed his concern... 885 00:54:41,959 --> 00:54:43,984 about guys in his platoon smoking hash... 886 00:54:44,061 --> 00:54:47,224 which led to him getting beat up. 887 00:54:47,297 --> 00:54:49,060 Why would you get stoned in my room? 888 00:54:49,132 --> 00:54:50,622 Why would you do that? 889 00:54:50,701 --> 00:54:52,328 The shit reeked. 890 00:54:52,402 --> 00:54:54,393 And who are they gonna blame? The private. 891 00:55:11,655 --> 00:55:13,748 And I heard the knock on the door, so I-- 892 00:55:13,824 --> 00:55:15,689 I just opened it and let them in. 893 00:55:15,759 --> 00:55:17,989 I knew it was coming. I knew what was gonna happen. 894 00:55:18,061 --> 00:55:22,555 He said some cheese dick line like, "I understand you guys are here to beat my ass. 895 00:55:22,633 --> 00:55:24,658 Go ahead and-- Go ahead and do it." 896 00:55:24,735 --> 00:55:27,203 So after that, it was just, like, "All right." 897 00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:29,170 [ Stoner ] My entire goal the entire time... 898 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,436 was just don't give 'em the pleasure of letting 'em know it hurts. 899 00:55:34,378 --> 00:55:38,838 I'm just sitting here and I'm gonna take it, and I'm just gonna deal with it. 900 00:55:38,915 --> 00:55:41,383 But you're the weak ones for snapping like this. 901 00:55:41,451 --> 00:55:46,320 Now we got an issue, 'cause he's rattin' us about fuckin' hash. 902 00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:48,381 You know, what else is he rattin' us about? 903 00:55:48,458 --> 00:55:50,824 Gibbs was very polite, actually. 904 00:55:50,894 --> 00:55:55,092 He was almost like a crazy, happy, nice person. 905 00:55:55,165 --> 00:56:00,569 Um, he explained to me, you know, "You understand why we did that." 906 00:56:22,959 --> 00:56:25,120 Gibbs went so far as to tell me... 907 00:56:25,195 --> 00:56:28,289 "We could stick you in a Hesco barrier and kill you. 908 00:56:28,365 --> 00:56:30,265 You know, no one will ever find you. 909 00:56:30,333 --> 00:56:32,426 Fill you in with dirt. No big deal. 910 00:56:32,502 --> 00:56:34,868 Or take you out on a mission. Kill you. 911 00:56:34,938 --> 00:56:37,202 No one would ever know the difference." 912 00:56:38,275 --> 00:56:41,244 He wanted to prove his point... 913 00:56:41,311 --> 00:56:43,802 by rolling out the guy's fingers... 914 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,575 which were his war trophies... 915 00:56:45,649 --> 00:56:47,276 you know, out on the floor. 916 00:56:47,350 --> 00:56:50,285 The next day, an acquaintance of mine down-- 917 00:56:50,353 --> 00:56:52,218 a medic down at the aid station-- 918 00:56:52,289 --> 00:56:54,120 I was going down there for some shit. 919 00:56:54,191 --> 00:56:56,489 She's like, "Stoner was just down here and saw our major... 920 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,755 and they were all super-secretive and shit." 921 00:56:58,829 --> 00:57:00,956 They took me into his personal tent... 922 00:57:01,031 --> 00:57:03,124 to talk to me about everything that had happened. 923 00:57:04,201 --> 00:57:06,066 It didn't take a brain surgeon... 924 00:57:06,136 --> 00:57:09,435 to realize that I'd just gotten my ass whupped. 925 00:57:09,506 --> 00:57:13,636 And of course, he just immediately contacts the guy higher than him... 926 00:57:13,710 --> 00:57:15,610 and it just goes higher and higher and higher. 927 00:57:17,380 --> 00:57:22,818 When C.I.D. got involved, they, uh, started asking other questions. 928 00:57:22,886 --> 00:57:27,323 The one thing I did know about was the body parts. 929 00:57:27,390 --> 00:57:32,623 Once that was said, that opened up the door to everything. 930 00:57:32,696 --> 00:57:36,427 Five US soldiers stand accused of shocking crimes... 931 00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:39,435 that include murdering Afghans for sport. 932 00:57:39,503 --> 00:57:42,097 Today near Seattle, the alleged ringleader of-- 933 00:57:42,172 --> 00:57:46,131 The story's out. They got Gibbs locked up. Morlock's locked up. 934 00:57:46,209 --> 00:57:48,439 Um, they brought everybody else in. 935 00:57:48,512 --> 00:57:50,480 And so, initially, we were, like, "Okay. Good. 936 00:57:50,547 --> 00:57:54,278 So, it's out there. He's safe." 937 00:57:54,351 --> 00:57:57,445 The Army C.I.D. people came here, and they told us-- 938 00:57:57,521 --> 00:57:59,455 We asked them, "Does Adam need a lawyer?" 939 00:57:59,523 --> 00:58:01,354 They said, "No, he shouldn't need a lawyer." 940 00:58:01,424 --> 00:58:06,191 It was really from the direction of Adam that had said... 941 00:58:06,263 --> 00:58:09,357 "You can call my parents. Go talk to my parents. 942 00:58:09,432 --> 00:58:11,627 I told them about this back in February." 943 00:58:11,701 --> 00:58:14,761 "He's fine. He's just-- He's-- He's the witness here. 944 00:58:14,838 --> 00:58:17,932 He's the main witness. Everything's gonna be okay." 945 00:58:18,008 --> 00:58:21,774 I was relieved, you know? A huge weight just got lifted. 946 00:58:21,845 --> 00:58:24,905 I finally got to express everything... 947 00:58:24,981 --> 00:58:28,576 and really tell somebody about what I'd been wanting to say... 948 00:58:28,652 --> 00:58:30,677 for the last, like, six months, almost. 949 00:58:30,754 --> 00:58:32,813 They told me that I was gonna help them... 950 00:58:32,889 --> 00:58:34,982 with their case against Sergeant Gibbs. 951 00:58:35,058 --> 00:58:37,026 That they're not coming after me. 952 00:58:37,093 --> 00:58:39,357 But they lied to me. 953 00:58:39,429 --> 00:58:41,420 You thought they had lied to you? 954 00:58:41,498 --> 00:58:42,988 Yeah. They just tricked me. 955 00:58:45,502 --> 00:58:49,939 I was at work, and, um... 956 00:58:50,006 --> 00:58:51,974 Emma-- Emma called me. 957 00:58:52,042 --> 00:58:56,001 She said that the commander at the base had called her and told them... 958 00:58:56,079 --> 00:59:00,345 that Adam had been charged with first-degree murder. 959 00:59:00,417 --> 00:59:02,544 And she was-- 960 00:59:02,619 --> 00:59:06,646 Emma was hysteric, and I was just, like, "What?" 961 00:59:06,723 --> 00:59:08,987 I mean, "What? What--" I was stunned. 962 00:59:09,059 --> 00:59:10,583 I mean, I-- I was stunned. 963 00:59:10,660 --> 00:59:13,220 I mean, I-- I, like, lost it. 964 00:59:13,296 --> 00:59:16,993 I was just-- I, like-- I started hyperventilating. 965 00:59:17,067 --> 00:59:18,796 I fell on the floor. 966 00:59:18,869 --> 00:59:21,531 You know, I was, like-- I couldn't believe it. 967 00:59:21,605 --> 00:59:23,573 I almost killed myself that night. 968 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,440 I was, like, "I'm gonna do it tonight for sure." 969 00:59:27,510 --> 00:59:29,444 Tonight's the night. 970 00:59:29,512 --> 00:59:31,446 Just kept thinking about it. 971 00:59:31,514 --> 00:59:36,349 I was having panic attacks the whole night and, um-- 972 00:59:40,190 --> 00:59:45,184 I was sitting at the desk, and I had an M4 sitting right next to me. 973 00:59:45,262 --> 00:59:48,527 I loaded it. It was ready to go. 974 00:59:48,598 --> 00:59:51,328 I had one in the chamber already. 975 00:59:51,401 --> 00:59:54,199 Um, and I was getting ready to write a note. 976 00:59:54,271 --> 00:59:56,171 To whom? 977 00:59:56,239 --> 00:59:58,571 Uh, my parents. 978 00:59:58,642 --> 01:00:06,014 Apologizing for everything. Sorry for leaving this way, and-- 979 01:00:06,082 --> 01:00:08,107 So, um-- 980 01:00:08,184 --> 01:00:12,587 As I was looking for some paper and a pen to write... 981 01:00:12,656 --> 01:00:16,251 I actually found a Bible instead. 982 01:00:16,326 --> 01:00:18,954 Started reading that. 983 01:00:19,029 --> 01:00:22,328 Started praying. 984 01:00:22,399 --> 01:00:28,395 Started crying and asking God for forgiveness, and-- 985 01:00:28,471 --> 01:00:33,067 I just kept reading the Bible, and it said something about your-- 986 01:00:33,143 --> 01:00:37,170 You'll be brought before kings and the judges in the synagogues and judged... 987 01:00:37,247 --> 01:00:40,774 but, um... 988 01:00:40,850 --> 01:00:45,412 if you stay faithful and suffer for my sake... 989 01:00:45,488 --> 01:00:48,685 then I'll be with you. 990 01:00:48,758 --> 01:00:52,057 So, I just-- 991 01:00:52,128 --> 01:00:54,790 I just kept praying all morning. 992 01:00:54,864 --> 01:00:58,527 Unloaded the weapon and put it back. 993 01:01:17,954 --> 01:01:20,548 [ Chris ] He smiled at everything. 994 01:01:20,623 --> 01:01:23,751 Just talked a thousand miles an hour. 995 01:01:23,827 --> 01:01:27,194 He was, like, the happy-go-lucky kid. 996 01:01:31,601 --> 01:01:37,562 [ Emma ] You know, a mom, a dad, a house, jobs, three kids-- 997 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,972 This is what we hoped for. 998 01:01:40,043 --> 01:01:43,774 This is what every American family hopes for. 999 01:01:43,847 --> 01:01:46,111 And we had it. 1000 01:01:47,717 --> 01:01:49,378 He reads all the history books... 1001 01:01:49,452 --> 01:01:54,890 and he reads all about these great American patriots and how heroic they were. 1002 01:01:56,593 --> 01:02:00,290 He wanted to prove to himself that he could do something like that. 1003 01:02:22,185 --> 01:02:24,619 [ Winfield ] The trial's finally here. 1004 01:02:24,687 --> 01:02:28,589 I'm pleading guilty to involuntary manslaughter. 1005 01:02:28,658 --> 01:02:30,353 My other charges... 1006 01:02:30,427 --> 01:02:36,093 of premeditated murder and conspiracy are being dropped. 1007 01:02:36,166 --> 01:02:39,693 The army is just wanting to, you know, make this all go away... 1008 01:02:39,769 --> 01:02:42,761 and they're trying to drop it down to the lowest common denominator. 1009 01:02:42,839 --> 01:02:44,704 They want the lowest guys to pay for it. 1010 01:02:44,774 --> 01:02:46,401 There's nobody been charged-- 1011 01:02:46,476 --> 01:02:48,467 You know, staff sergeant or below, and that's it. 1012 01:02:48,545 --> 01:02:53,380 There's no officers have any responsibility for anything. 1013 01:02:55,151 --> 01:02:57,142 [ Sighs ] 1014 01:02:57,220 --> 01:03:00,314 It's huge. This thing is big. 1015 01:03:00,390 --> 01:03:02,654 It's bigger than Adam. It's bigger than me. 1016 01:03:02,725 --> 01:03:05,125 It's bigger than everybody right now. 1017 01:03:05,195 --> 01:03:10,155 Best-case scenario, um, the judge awards me time served... 1018 01:03:10,233 --> 01:03:13,259 and I'd walk out with my family that day. 1019 01:03:15,371 --> 01:03:18,499 Worst case, I get an eight-year sentence. 1020 01:03:18,575 --> 01:03:21,339 If Adam would have went to somebody out there, he would have been dead. 1021 01:03:21,411 --> 01:03:24,073 He would have came home in a body bag if we were lucky. 1022 01:03:24,147 --> 01:03:26,138 'Cause, you know, Gibbs had threatened him... 1023 01:03:26,216 --> 01:03:28,275 that he would cut him up in a million pieces... 1024 01:03:28,351 --> 01:03:30,876 and throw him to the wild dog packs out there... 1025 01:03:30,954 --> 01:03:32,683 and nobody would ever find him. 1026 01:03:32,755 --> 01:03:36,088 The only remnants he would have would be Adam's finger on his necklace... 1027 01:03:36,159 --> 01:03:37,956 that he was making of body parts. 1028 01:03:42,765 --> 01:03:44,494 It's all about getting that first kill... 1029 01:03:44,567 --> 01:03:46,967 and going home with a mark that says you killed somebody. 1030 01:03:49,005 --> 01:03:52,941 You get the badge that says you been over there and that you fought in a war... 1031 01:03:53,009 --> 01:03:57,378 and that's what they're all shooting for, regardless if it's legitimate or not. 1032 01:03:57,447 --> 01:04:00,507 And it's just ridic-- It just makes me sick to my stomach. 1033 01:04:07,824 --> 01:04:12,284 [ Winfield ] Part of my job over there was to protect civilians. 1034 01:04:12,362 --> 01:04:17,629 I had a responsibility to put a stop to what was going on. 1035 01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:21,966 You know, I feel-- You know, I am guilty. 1036 01:04:25,441 --> 01:04:29,775 Adam's a pawn in the big picture, is what he was. 1037 01:04:29,846 --> 01:04:32,212 He was stuck in the middle of nowhere. 1038 01:04:32,282 --> 01:04:34,876 He had the Taliban shooting at him on one side. 1039 01:04:34,951 --> 01:04:37,442 He had his own guys threatening to kill him if he didn't-- 1040 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,353 if he said anything on his other side. 1041 01:04:40,423 --> 01:04:42,448 He had guns pointed at him in both directions. 1042 01:04:42,525 --> 01:04:44,516 What do you do? What do you do? 1043 01:04:56,506 --> 01:04:59,737 It'll be the first time I've seen you in those. 1044 01:04:59,809 --> 01:05:01,674 I've never seen you in your dress blues. 1045 01:05:01,744 --> 01:05:05,510 [ Winfield ] No. It's the second time I've actually worn them. So-- 1046 01:05:07,517 --> 01:05:10,918 Will you-- Will you have to wear those for the rest of the trials? 1047 01:05:10,987 --> 01:05:12,887 - No. - Okay. 1048 01:05:12,956 --> 01:05:14,651 It depends on what happens... 1049 01:05:14,724 --> 01:05:17,522 and if I'm still in... 1050 01:05:17,594 --> 01:05:20,188 whatever I'm wearing in the jail. 1051 01:05:24,167 --> 01:05:25,964 All right. 1052 01:05:27,136 --> 01:05:31,163 After tomorrow, no matter what... 1053 01:05:31,241 --> 01:05:35,234 either he's out, or we can circle a date on a calendar and say... 1054 01:05:35,311 --> 01:05:37,677 we have X number of days till you're home. 1055 01:05:37,747 --> 01:05:39,578 We have one less day until you're home. 1056 01:05:39,649 --> 01:05:42,209 And I think that's huge for him... 1057 01:05:42,285 --> 01:05:43,877 that he can at least say... 1058 01:05:43,953 --> 01:05:46,285 it's gonna be over. 1059 01:05:48,291 --> 01:05:50,816 He told me he doesn't expect to walk away tomorrow... 1060 01:05:50,893 --> 01:05:53,828 but we'll see. 1061 01:05:57,066 --> 01:05:59,159 I sure would like him to. 1062 01:06:21,157 --> 01:06:24,957 Take two, three deep breaths, and then just go into what you're gonna say. 1063 01:06:25,028 --> 01:06:28,054 And just keep that in mind and keep an image... 1064 01:06:28,131 --> 01:06:30,156 and then you might want to look at your parents. 1065 01:06:30,233 --> 01:06:32,861 - Mm-hmm. Okay. - Okay? 1066 01:06:37,273 --> 01:06:38,934 Don't give up. 1067 01:06:39,008 --> 01:06:40,839 - Promise me that, all right? - I won't. 1068 01:06:40,910 --> 01:06:43,640 - Things are gonna be okay. - Mm-hmm. 1069 01:06:43,713 --> 01:06:46,079 Okay. 1070 01:06:49,452 --> 01:06:51,420 [ Bailiff ] All rise. 1071 01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:56,782 [ Man ] Specialist Winfield understood on May 2, 2010... 1072 01:06:56,859 --> 01:07:00,124 that they were blowing up an innocent man. 1073 01:07:01,631 --> 01:07:05,226 He could have made a scene that day. He could have done anything. 1074 01:07:05,301 --> 01:07:07,667 What does Specialist Winfield do? 1075 01:07:07,737 --> 01:07:12,834 Nothing. He had the opportunity over and over and over again... 1076 01:07:12,909 --> 01:07:16,845 to ensure he did the right thing. 1077 01:07:16,913 --> 01:07:21,179 And he himself told you he failed. 1078 01:07:21,250 --> 01:07:24,845 And that failure had catastrophic consequences. 1079 01:07:26,622 --> 01:07:32,219 [ Winfield ] Sir, not protecting that man was-- 1080 01:07:35,031 --> 01:07:38,899 It's haunted me for the last year now. 1081 01:07:39,902 --> 01:07:41,392 And-- 1082 01:07:43,172 --> 01:07:46,437 I just want to go home, sir. Sorry. 1083 01:07:49,312 --> 01:07:51,405 [ Man ] Specialist Adam Christopher Winfield... 1084 01:07:51,481 --> 01:07:54,245 this court-martial sentences you... 1085 01:07:54,317 --> 01:07:56,785 to be confined for three years... 1086 01:07:56,853 --> 01:07:58,480 and to be discharged from the army... 1087 01:07:58,554 --> 01:08:01,387 with a bad conduct discharge. 1088 01:08:04,093 --> 01:08:06,823 I'm all right. 1089 01:08:06,896 --> 01:08:08,955 I can do this. 1090 01:08:10,299 --> 01:08:13,530 - I'm sorry we didn't protect you. - It's okay. 1091 01:08:15,872 --> 01:08:19,205 Mom. Hey. He got three years. 1092 01:08:20,743 --> 01:08:22,677 Three years. 1093 01:08:22,745 --> 01:08:25,213 And a bad conduct discharge. 1094 01:08:27,350 --> 01:08:30,513 - Are you okay? Are you okay? - I'm fine. 1095 01:08:30,586 --> 01:08:32,713 Just promise me you're not gonna do anything to yourself. 1096 01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:35,986 - I'm not gonna do anything. - Okay? Good. 1097 01:08:36,058 --> 01:08:39,391 - I was proud of you today. - So was I. 1098 01:08:39,462 --> 01:08:42,295 - You're stronger than me. - [ Chuckles ] 1099 01:08:42,365 --> 01:08:44,230 [ Chuckles ] 1100 01:08:44,300 --> 01:08:46,393 I've already been through the worst of this. 1101 01:08:49,172 --> 01:08:53,006 - It's over right now. - It doesn't matter what-- You know what? 1102 01:08:53,075 --> 01:08:55,373 They can't do anything else to you. It's over. 1103 01:08:55,445 --> 01:08:57,174 Exactly. It's all done. 1104 01:08:57,246 --> 01:08:59,339 It's all over. 1105 01:09:18,968 --> 01:09:20,458 [ Morlock ] I find myself thinking sometimes... 1106 01:09:20,536 --> 01:09:24,870 how are you gonna tell this story later on? 1107 01:09:27,376 --> 01:09:29,810 Somebody told me a way to look at it... 1108 01:09:29,879 --> 01:09:32,040 is it's not that you're a murderer. 1109 01:09:32,114 --> 01:09:33,706 You were convicted of murder. 1110 01:09:38,821 --> 01:09:40,846 Pretty much initially after the first incident... 1111 01:09:40,923 --> 01:09:42,891 it was, like, "Fuck, welcome to the club, Morlock." 1112 01:09:42,959 --> 01:09:45,189 You know? "You're a grown-ass man now." 1113 01:09:46,796 --> 01:09:48,320 That's what every infantryman's looking for. 1114 01:09:48,397 --> 01:09:50,160 They're looking to be-- to fulfill their job. 1115 01:09:50,233 --> 01:09:53,725 To fulfill, you know, the way of life of an infantryman. 1116 01:09:53,803 --> 01:09:56,067 And so, I mean-- 1117 01:09:56,138 --> 01:09:58,504 Your superiors, in a way, kind of become your father figures. 1118 01:09:58,574 --> 01:10:02,305 They become the guys that you most want to impress... 1119 01:10:02,378 --> 01:10:04,312 and this was a way to do it. 1120 01:10:16,993 --> 01:10:19,689 [ Holmes ] I was 19. Fresh out of high school. 1121 01:10:19,762 --> 01:10:21,753 I thought I knew everything that there was to know... 1122 01:10:21,831 --> 01:10:24,026 but, man, I was really, really wrong. 1123 01:10:27,003 --> 01:10:28,971 I didn't know who to talk to, you know? 1124 01:10:29,038 --> 01:10:31,370 I didn't know what to say. I didn't know what to think. 1125 01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:33,670 'Cause these were the guys that I was walking into combat. 1126 01:10:33,743 --> 01:10:37,372 I was doing patrols with these guys, and I didn't want to-- 1127 01:10:37,446 --> 01:10:40,847 I didn't want them to, you know, think different of me. 1128 01:11:01,003 --> 01:11:02,493 [ Stoner ] We're training you... 1129 01:11:02,572 --> 01:11:05,473 from the day you join to the day you're out... 1130 01:11:06,042 --> 01:11:07,532 to kill. 1131 01:11:07,610 --> 01:11:09,544 Your job is to kill. You're infantry. 1132 01:11:09,612 --> 01:11:13,207 Your job is to kill everything that gets in your way. 1133 01:11:14,951 --> 01:11:18,546 Well, then why the hell are you pissed off when we do it? 1134 01:11:31,801 --> 01:11:35,635 I never want to be referred to as a whistle-blower... 1135 01:11:35,705 --> 01:11:38,401 'cause it's worse than what they're being portrayed as. 1136 01:11:38,474 --> 01:11:42,638 If I could go back, I wouldn't have said anything. 1137 01:11:46,649 --> 01:11:49,243 Everything we did was put into the media... 1138 01:11:49,318 --> 01:11:51,013 as we're horrible, we're the Kill Team... 1139 01:11:51,087 --> 01:11:53,021 we're rogue platoon, we're all these things. 1140 01:11:53,089 --> 01:11:57,048 I don't care what the military wants to say... 1141 01:11:57,126 --> 01:11:59,026 but this goes on more than just us. 1142 01:11:59,095 --> 01:12:01,188 We're just the ones that got caught. 1143 01:12:04,300 --> 01:12:07,201 [ Morlock ] There was no way for me not to be a part of it. 1144 01:12:08,604 --> 01:12:10,469 There's no way not to be surrounded by Gibbs. 1145 01:12:10,539 --> 01:12:14,373 There's no way not to be pressured into these things. 1146 01:12:14,443 --> 01:12:16,434 The constant pressure of having to kill... 1147 01:12:16,512 --> 01:12:19,538 and then the risk of being killed yourself-- 1148 01:12:19,615 --> 01:12:22,948 It was impossible not to surrender to the insanity of it all. 1149 01:12:35,831 --> 01:12:40,700 [ Winfield ] I think about it a lot. The war. 1150 01:12:40,770 --> 01:12:44,171 All the stuff that the guys in my platoon were doing. 1151 01:12:45,408 --> 01:12:47,569 I never understood it. I-- 1152 01:12:47,643 --> 01:12:51,135 Even now, I don't understand. 1153 01:12:51,213 --> 01:12:53,738 I just-- I don't know. I'll never understand, I guess. 1154 01:13:02,525 --> 01:13:05,688 War is dirty. 1155 01:13:05,761 --> 01:13:09,697 It's not how they portray it in the movies where, you know... 1156 01:13:09,765 --> 01:13:14,998 there's just a bunch of honorable men... 1157 01:13:15,071 --> 01:13:19,940 with, you know, unshakable patriotism. 1158 01:13:20,009 --> 01:13:24,776 It's just a bunch of guys with guns. 1159 01:13:49,271 --> 01:13:52,263 And I wish that I could fix it. 1160 01:13:56,145 --> 01:13:57,806 And I wish-- 1161 01:13:59,315 --> 01:14:03,081 I don't know. I wish that none of that had to happen to them. 1162 01:14:09,458 --> 01:14:11,688 Um-- 1163 01:14:13,896 --> 01:14:17,662 And I wish I could tell them that myself. 96922

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