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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,880 Please don't touch me. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,640 The Keli Lane case is like no other. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,200 NEWSREADER: A murder mystery. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,520 MAN: She's a murderer. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,000 NEWSREADER: The golden girl who ended up a baby killer. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,440 MAN: There's no way she'd kill a baby. 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,480 REPORTER: Baby Tegan was never seen again. 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,440 MAN: Nothing was found. Not anything. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,280 It doesn't add up. 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,840 REPORTER: Lane told more than 95 lies... 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,840 WOMAN: She hadn't told a single solitary person in her life. 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,680 MAN: There is only really one person 13 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,800 who can tell what happened, 14 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,840 and that's Keli Lane. 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,720 WOMAN: You know, dead sure. Two o'clock, two o'clock. 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,880 Lots of things can go wrong with this call. 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,640 And we're at the very beginning. 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,520 Waiting. 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,840 Wasn't it, like, yesterday, they said around two? 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,560 Half-past. 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,200 (SIGHS) 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,840 (PHONE BEEPS) 23 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,480 ELECTRONIC VOICE: You are about to receive a phone call from an inmate 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,080 at the Silverwater Women's Correctional Centre. 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,040 Your conversation will be recorded and may be monitored. 26 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,960 If you do not wish to receive this call, 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,800 please hang up now. 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,040 Go ahead, please. 29 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,280 WOMAN: (ON PHONE) Hello, Caro. 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,080 Hi, Keli. How are you? How are you? 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,320 I'm...I'm well. Thanks for calling. 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:36,880 Oh, thank you. 33 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:38,840 I got caught up at work. I've only just got out. 34 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,880 So, it's a little bit noisy on the wing, but... 35 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:43,360 OK. So good to talk to you, finally. 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,520 Yeah. 37 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,400 And I know we've got limited time, we've got six minutes. 38 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,520 So... Yeah. 39 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,520 I guess what I'm interested to know 40 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,600 is, you know, why did you write to ME? 41 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,080 What do you hope will come of this? 42 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,120 KELI: (ON PHONE) Well, obviously, the biggest hope for me 43 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,080 is that someone comes forward with my daughter. 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,600 She'd be an adult now. 45 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,320 She's, 20, 21, so she obviously has had a whole life 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,320 perhaps not knowing that she's my child. 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,000 I don't want to interrupt her life. 48 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,120 I don't even necessarily need to meet her. 49 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,600 But, obviously, for my own family, for myself, 50 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,440 I want to show that I did not harm her 51 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,120 and I certainly did not kill her. 52 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,880 NEWSREADER: It was a shock verdict. 53 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,800 REPORTER: Keli Lane was found guilty 54 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,600 of murdering newborn daughter Tegan. 55 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,400 REPORTER: She let out a primal scream, 56 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,280 she threw herself to the floor of the dock. 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,080 A paramedic was rushed to the courtroom. 58 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,080 REPORTER 2: Her mother, Sandra, remains sedated. 59 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,520 REPORTER 3: Keli Lane is one of the state's 60 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,560 most notorious child killers. 61 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:51,600 She had insisted she gave Tegan to her natural father - 62 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,760 a man called Andrew Morris or Andrew Norris. 63 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,520 REPORTER 4: Detectives searched for a man named Andrew Morris or Norris, 64 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,680 but concluded he never existed. 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,800 (SLOW FOOTSTEPS) 66 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:10,840 WOMAN: She claims that she gave Tegan 67 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:13,800 to Andrew Morris...Norris and his mother 68 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,280 in the hospital. 69 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,720 But those people have never come forward. 70 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,000 There was also a description of this man's partner - 71 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,800 a woman...supposedly called Mel, 72 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,160 who was ever so willing to take on this child. 73 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,080 No, it was Andrew Norris, or was it Morris, 74 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,480 and his girlfriend, Mel, and her mother. 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,720 Do you know what I mean? Like, it's just bizarre. 76 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,680 Like, how can you...? 77 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,560 There were so many incredulities 78 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,920 that made it inherently unbelievable. 79 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Yes. "I gave the baby away." 80 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,240 You know? No. 81 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,240 MAN: There was a big hunt into where that child was - 82 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,920 big hunt because of the versions she gave. 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,720 And nothing was... nothing was found. 84 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,360 Not...not...not anything. 85 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:07,880 Not Norris. 86 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,080 Nothing...nothing worked for her. 87 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,760 Nothing. 88 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,360 "Why don't people believe me?" 89 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,200 'Cause you're full of shit. 90 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,200 KELI: Although it may seem very unusual to everybody else, 91 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:28,520 21 years ago, they're the steps I took, 92 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,760 and I safely gave her to her father. 93 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:32,760 And I want to show... I want to clear my name. 94 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:35,960 I want to show the public that that's exactly what happened. 95 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,720 CARO: Well, I need to... I'm gonna lose you very soon, 96 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,520 but I want to ask you, you know, 97 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,920 part of making those choices 98 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,040 and what you've been harshly criticised for... 99 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,120 Mm-hm. ..was telling lies. 100 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,840 Yeah. ..and telling lots of lies 101 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,320 over many years. 102 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,360 Yeah. You know, you were lying then. 103 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,480 Will you be truthful with me through this? 104 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,000 Oh, 100... (BEEP!) 105 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,400 I wouldn't have sought you out 106 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,080 and I wouldn't have been pushing for seven years 107 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,000 and have my life dug into and exposed 108 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,080 and my family and my friends, my partner. 109 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,200 I... (BEEP!) 110 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:07,280 I would never do that to them. It's such a huge responsibility. 111 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,240 And I could sit here, Caro, and do my time. 112 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,840 I'm halfway through. But, nuh. No way. 113 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,120 I'm happy for you to go to the ends...ends. 114 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,880 I want you to go to the ends. 115 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,680 OK. I look forward to it. 116 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,040 OK, well, it's gonna take us to some...to some tough... 117 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,440 (CALL DISCONNECTS) 118 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,960 (SIGHS) 119 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,720 Whoa. 120 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,160 She accepts she lied. 121 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,040 But we're dealing with a serial liar. 122 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,600 (SIGHS) 123 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,480 But we're down the tube. 124 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,000 OK. 125 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,960 Baby Tegan has never been found. 126 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,760 Where is she? 127 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,560 Her mother claims she's alive. 128 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,960 Investigators say she's dead, 129 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,040 but where is the evidence of that? 130 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,520 And, really, too, I mean, growing up, for me, 131 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,920 the Keli Lane case here in Sydney, it was massive. 132 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,440 REPORTER: The New South Wales Coroner... 133 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,440 CARO: What this woman had done, all these secret pregnancies, 134 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,880 how promiscuous she was, the lies she told... 135 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,320 REPORTER: ..to charge a known person with her homicide... 136 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,080 But through all of that, 137 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,480 I didn't then, and I still don't now, 138 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,160 have a picture and a full understanding of who Keli Lane is, 139 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,560 and there is always a story behind the story. 140 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,160 I guess looking at the next kind of six months or so 141 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,640 is just completely daunting and overwhelming 142 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,760 because there's so much to do 143 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:41,680 and there's so many challenges with this story. 144 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,000 Getting people to talk to us, 145 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,480 it's something that happened 20 years ago, so long ago, 146 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,040 that even finding original documents and things from the time 147 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,560 is going to be really difficult. 148 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,760 It's not like you can just google it and get things to come up. 149 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:55,600 Um, so it's going to be really challenging. 150 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,040 Caro can be a very exacting person to work with. 151 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,040 But she's wonderful at getting to the bottom of things 152 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,640 and she will not let things go. 153 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,560 CARO: Right, so, where do we begin? 154 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,920 We need to retrace and rebuild her life. 155 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,240 Who knew what, who saw what and when. 156 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,440 (WHISTLE BLOWS) (PLAYFUL SHOUTING) 157 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,560 MAN: Keli was, like, more Manly than anyone. 158 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,400 She epitomised what Manly was. 159 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,640 WOMAN: When I was growing up, it was like a little country town. 160 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,240 Everyone knew each other. 161 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,160 CARO: Upsides to that, everyone knows each other. 162 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,680 Mmm. Downsides? 163 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,000 Everyone knows each other. (LAUGHS) 164 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,600 Yeah, I mean, there's lots of gossiping. 165 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,960 It's a very ins...like, the 'Insular Peninsula' as they call it. 166 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,520 (CHILDREN SCREAM) 167 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,960 CARO: If you were all growing up 168 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,400 in a close-knit but gossipy sort of a community... 169 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,600 Mm. 170 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,600 ..what do you learn from that, growing up? 171 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,000 You learn to keep secrets. 172 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,440 Absolutely. You absolutely learn to keep secrets. 173 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,760 Manly's quite a small place, really. 174 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,040 And you've got a lot of... 175 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,000 ..you had a lot of profiled people there at the time. 176 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,760 You know you've got Olympic swimmers. 177 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,480 COMMENTATOR: A very happy Johanna Griggs there. 178 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:38,120 COMMENTATOR 2: Scott Miller here. 179 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,040 And you had kayak paddlers and you had ironmen 180 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,320 and you had rugby league players. 181 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:44,680 COMMENTATOR: Chance for Manly! 182 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,880 WOMAN: She had a big group of friends. 183 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,840 She was very popular. She knew everyone in Manly. 184 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,560 She was a really sporty girl. 185 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,800 Keli was...she was cool. She was a star. 186 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Here I am, doing cartwheels in a regional athletics carnival, 187 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,400 she's in fourth grade, 188 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,840 running with sixth graders and whipping our pants, 189 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:05,840 back then, you know? 190 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,080 She just had gifted natural talent. 191 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,000 CORY HUTCHINGS: She was a real strong, robust competitor 192 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,560 and I think that's probably what helped her in water polo. 193 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,480 NATALIE MCCAULEY: Mr. and Mrs. Lane had very high expectations 194 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:23,760 and they had very high expectations of their kids, 195 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,040 and that sort of pressure can be a good and bad thing. 196 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,240 So, Keli would have done what she was told to do. 197 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,640 Oh, everyone knew the Lanes. I mean, everyone knew who they were. 198 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,480 I mean, I'd heard about them before I knew them. 199 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,480 Very well respected. Very well respected. 200 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:43,440 So, they were involved in Manly Surf Lifesaving 201 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,240 and he was a really good surfer. 202 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,000 At the rugby club, Robert used to coach 203 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,160 and they were there all the time, supporting, helping, 204 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,240 whatever it was. 205 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,560 (CHEERING) 206 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:55,880 CARO: How did Robert see Keli? 207 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,480 She was the apple of his eye. 208 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:01,480 Yeah. They were close. They had a great relationship. 209 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,240 She had a great relationship with her mum as well. 210 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,480 I think she wanted to impress them 211 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:11,120 and wanted to... to represent them well. 212 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Yeah. 213 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,600 And a little bit scared, too, of her parents. 214 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:19,400 In terms of dating Keli Lane, 215 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,240 is that something that guys would aspire to? 216 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,800 Yeah, probably. I mean, she was a hottie. 217 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,280 VIRGINIA TIMMINS: There wouldn't have been a bar that she was in 218 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,320 without someone talking to her. 219 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,840 People were attracted to her. She was fun. 220 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,800 Keli was out to have a good time. 221 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,560 You know, she came out, she had a good time, 222 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,840 and...I don't know if that just goes along with sport. 223 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,400 There was definitely a lot of sexual energy everywhere. 224 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,280 NATALIE MCCAULEY: Mostly she was a serial monogamist. 225 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,600 Like, she would go in relationship after relationship. 226 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:56,320 She was someone that liked being in a relationship. 227 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,480 When it came to dating, say, Keli Lane, what was that like? 228 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:04,720 The daughter of the local copper. (CHUCKLES) 229 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,400 It was funny because... 230 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,320 Yeah, a couple of the boys, you know, they said to me... 231 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:13,560 "..If you go out on a date with her, be careful. 232 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,280 "Don't... You know, her old man might get you." 233 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,920 Were you scared of Mr. Lane, the policeman? 234 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,400 I was more scared of Mrs. Lane. 235 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,000 (CHUCKLES) Sorry, Sandy. 236 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,280 It's true. 237 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:39,080 Mrs. Lane can be a bit tough and can come across that way. 238 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,920 Yeah. Tread lightly. 239 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,120 So, the communication skills within the family unit 240 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,120 were probably a little bit behind. 241 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:53,280 So if... Where did talking come, then, in the list of...? 242 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,840 Yeah, yeah. Way down. Way down. 243 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,880 The talking was not, you know, 244 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,960 at any level beyond the first layer of the onion. 245 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:08,360 How did her parents strike you? Sandy and Robert. 246 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,720 They were protective of Keli. 247 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,440 Obviously it's their daughter. 248 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,440 Which makes it so bizarre that Keli would be living under their roof 249 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,960 and not be aware that she was pregnant. 250 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,840 Her body was changing. 251 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:33,800 MAN: Here's a perfectly educated woman from a very good family 252 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,200 who for reasons that are hard to understand 253 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:43,120 has got pregnant five times in the course of about seven years. 254 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,600 Now, in the first two cases 255 00:12:46,680 --> 00:12:49,960 she successfully had those pregnancies terminated. 256 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,680 There were then three live births - one before Tegan 257 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,800 who was the alleged victim, and one after. 258 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,480 The first live birth and the third live birth 259 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:03,160 resulted in adoptions. 260 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,080 Her parents seemed oblivious 261 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,800 or tried to appear that they were oblivious 262 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,360 to all of this occurring under their roof. 263 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,360 (CAR HORNS BLARE) 264 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,120 How are you feeling? MAN: A bit toey as usual, you know? 265 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,120 A bit toey. Yeah. 266 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,000 We just want to do the best we can for our daughter. 267 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,520 Mmm. Yeah. Yeah. 268 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,680 Sandy's OK... 269 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,320 How are you feeling? I asked... 270 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,360 Well, I get the coughs every now and then, so... 271 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,880 If that's too tight... 272 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,800 Is that alright? 273 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,600 And we wouldn't do it, 274 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:56,560 only that we hope we can give Keli a chance to get out before her time. 275 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,480 You wouldn't put yourself under this sort of pressure otherwise. 276 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:05,000 But it's solely to help her get out of the place. 277 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,240 Well, I've said this before and I'll say it again, 278 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,720 I'm not here to make any promises. 279 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,720 I'm not making promises. I can't. 280 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,920 No-one can. 281 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,320 What I'm here for and what we're here for is to understand. 282 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,200 To try and understand her. 283 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,960 (COUGHS) 284 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:27,240 What sort of values did you instill for Keli, say? 285 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,200 Oh, well, I think respect for others for a start. 286 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,200 Yeah. Honesty. Honesty. 287 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,040 And the people would probably say, 288 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,600 "How didn't they know that Keli was pregnant three times?" 289 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,600 Well, we didn't know. 290 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,480 No-one knew. 291 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,800 She was able to disguise, hide, whatever. 292 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,400 But she played water polo in her condition. 293 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,400 And, so... 294 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,560 ..you know, we feel dopey that we didn't pick it up, but... 295 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,000 Well, I don't feel dopey because... I do. 296 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,240 ..I would say just about everybody who knew her didn't know. 297 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,960 You don't feel dopey? 298 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,960 I don't feel dopey at all. 299 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,120 All I know is... (PHONE RINGS) 300 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,400 Excuse me. 301 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,000 The fashion at the time, nobody wore tight clothing. 302 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,960 Nobody. It was all baggy. 303 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,400 She was in a tracksuit most of the bloody time 304 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,600 because of, you know, different training sessions 305 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,280 and the lifestyle that she led. 306 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,600 It happens. And life is stranger than fiction. 307 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,000 When she was growing up, brought a lot of prestige to our family. 308 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Besides the...other things. 309 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,320 But she was great, you know? 310 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,320 She's got boxfuls of medals and so forth, 311 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,240 and we...never took them out, we always kept them... 312 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,800 We never never hung them up anywhere or anything. 313 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,120 They're all in there. 314 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,760 There's that much stuff that's... It's all in there. 315 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,480 So, she never hung these up? 316 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,000 BOTH: No. Never wore them. 317 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,840 Just popped them in a box. 318 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,120 Primary school. 319 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,520 So, there's your murderer. 320 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,280 Why do you say that, Rob? 321 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,040 It's an unusual scenario, isn't it? 322 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,360 Yes. 323 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,080 Last question. Where do you think Tegan is? 324 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,560 I don't know. 325 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,120 I don't know. I don't know. 326 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,600 She could be overseas. 327 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,320 She could be anywhere. I don't know. Don't know. 328 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,000 What do you remember of the day, then, 329 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,120 when you found out Keli was in trouble? 330 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,240 I felt very sorry for her. 331 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,440 She carried the load on herself. She could have shared it with us. 332 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,840 And I do remember saying, "Why didn't you tell us? 333 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,920 "We could have helped you." 334 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,360 And she said, "But I wanted..." 335 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,880 She wanted to protect us. 336 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,640 Alright? 337 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,560 Yeah, well, just settle down, darl. 338 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,800 You've got to go and get another Kleenex. 339 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:14,320 Go on, you can go. 340 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,440 Oh, dear. 341 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,080 I told myself not to get upset. 342 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,880 But it is upsetting. It's still upsetting. 343 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,640 Alright, let's wrap it up, guys. 344 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,320 He's had enough. He's had enough. Wrap it up. 345 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:51,440 So, we're on the way to see Keli Lane's first serious boyfriend. 346 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,760 His name's Aaron Tyack. 347 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,920 And they dated for quite some time back in the early '90s. 348 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,960 And Aaron has a really interesting and a unique perspective 349 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,840 into Keli Lane 350 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,360 because she fell pregnant with Aaron 351 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,320 when they were together - she was a schoolgirl. 352 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,400 We're here. Here he is. 353 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,960 There's Aaron Tyack. 354 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,800 Hi, Aaron. How are you going? 355 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,920 I'm good. Hey, nice to meet you. You too. 356 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,600 How are you feeling? A bit nervous. 357 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,360 What are you nervous about? 358 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,520 I don't know. I just don't want to create any more dramas, I suppose. 359 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,400 Let's go inside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 360 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,600 We'll go inside. At least there's a fan going in there. 361 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,920 This is a world away out here from Manly, 362 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,600 from the insular peninsula. (CHUCKLES) 363 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:44,400 Yeah, it is. It's good. 364 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,840 Do you remember the first time you ever saw Keli Lane? 365 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:52,920 Pretty much from the day I saw her, I'm like, "Oh, who's that?" 366 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,440 You know, she had the golden-blond hair 367 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,280 and the nice brown skin and she was fit. 368 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:00,360 And, you know. 369 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Like, Keli could have... 370 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,960 She could have had anyone she wanted, really. 371 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,960 Do you think she was your first true love? 372 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,200 Yeah. I'd had girlfriends in the past, but... 373 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,640 Yeah. Yeah, she definitely was. 374 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,520 Yeah. 375 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,520 It was young love. 376 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:30,080 But it was definitely something that I hadn't sort of felt before. 377 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,600 I loved hanging out with her. 378 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,360 I loved who she was and what she stood for. 379 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,080 And I reckon she loved me too. 380 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,880 Now, something significant happened 381 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,080 during your relationship with Keli. 382 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,640 Mmm. 383 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,240 Oh... Yeah. God. 384 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,920 Fuckin' hell. Um... 385 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,280 Yeah, well, one day we were sitting in her room 386 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:08,080 and she mentioned that we needed to have a chat. 387 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,280 And, yeah, she said she was pregnant. 388 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,360 Pretty much matter-of-fact, just like that. 389 00:20:16,360 --> 00:20:20,040 And my first thing was, "Well, you're on the pill. 390 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:21,760 "How did this happen?" 391 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,040 Oh, instantly it's like, whoa. 392 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:26,480 This... 393 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,320 Yeah. We were...we were too young. 394 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,360 Neither of us could really offer a baby anything. 395 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,760 So I had my view. And what was that? 396 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,520 Oh, well, to have...have... 397 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,680 ..you know, have a termination, have an abortion, 398 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,360 which wasn't ideal either, you know, but... 399 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,920 What was Keli's view? 400 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,040 Yeah, she didn't want to. 401 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,480 But what choice did we have? 402 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,840 I remember driving her to the ferry at Manly... 403 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,560 ..knowing what was, you know, going to happen that day. 404 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,360 And I just waited for her to come back. 405 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,280 I remember being there, though, when she got off. 406 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:23,640 And, yeah...it was pretty sad. 407 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:30,280 She was devoed. 408 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:32,280 And she didn't even say anything. 409 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:36,800 And she walked up and she just grabbed me and started crying. 410 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,400 It was, it was horrible. 411 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,640 Who was that girl? 412 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,800 What did you see, that girl getting off that ferry? 413 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,520 A shattered girl. 414 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,240 Yep. 415 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,640 Now, something happened in that year, 416 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,840 in that final year of high school for Keli. 417 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,080 She fell pregnant. 418 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,240 Oh... 419 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,200 Yeah. Well, I didn't know. 420 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,720 Are we hashing over every single, little detail? 421 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:26,240 I thought I'd ask because 422 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,600 in terms of the forces that shaped her 423 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,960 and where it led to with this case... 424 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,800 ..this may be a starting point. 425 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,880 Oh, I would say obviously now. 426 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,560 But I didn't know. 427 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:51,520 Um...so I haven't then gone back and gone, "Oh, what about 1992?" 428 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,040 No, I haven't. 429 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,400 Keli Lane had a second termination, 430 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,320 around the time you would have broken up. 431 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,960 Did you know about that? 432 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,200 No. I didn't know. 433 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,320 You know, we were breaking up. 434 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,960 Why would she tell me? 435 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Yeah. 436 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,160 Hmm. 437 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,680 Yeah, it's... Mate. 438 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,760 Fuckin' just... 439 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,800 ..shocking. 440 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,400 Horrible. 441 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,920 So, these medical records, 442 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,920 they speak to a turning point here from Keli Lane 443 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,560 because this time around, with this pregnancy, she tells no-one. 444 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,320 And this is a very different procedure 445 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,800 to the last one she had. 446 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,600 This is a late-term abortion. She was 20 weeks pregnant. 447 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,080 It was a two-stage procedure. 448 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,600 So, she's written here in her handwriting 449 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,160 she doesn't remember having any counselling... 450 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,920 ..after the procedure. No counselling. 451 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,440 (BEEP! BEEP!) 452 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,560 ELECTRONIC VOICE: Go ahead, please. 453 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,040 Hi, Caro. It's Kel. Hi, Keli. Hello. 454 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:13,400 How are you? Hello. How are you? 455 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,360 It's been a long time since we've spoken. 456 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,800 I know. I know. 457 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,000 What happened, then, in '94? 458 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,440 Yeah. I... 459 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,800 It was a very late termination and I was quite sick. 460 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,560 Physically I was quite sick. 461 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,000 It was quite a traumatic event. 462 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,560 They didn't really offer me any counselling. 463 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,840 You know, there was the usual questions, "Are you sure?" 464 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,760 But there was no follow-up counselling 465 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,640 and I didn't seek any follow-up counselling. 466 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,320 I just got on with things. 467 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,080 And I think that was really I guess part of the start of that secrecy 468 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,800 around, you know, 469 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,320 being in a position where I really should have asked for help. 470 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,200 Is it something that you wanted to avoid doing again? 471 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,320 Oh, of course. Of course. 472 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,400 I'm not sure what the psychology is behind it, 473 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,480 but I guess being an adult now looking back 474 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,240 perhaps that's why, you know, the going right to full term occurred. 475 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,920 Were you very focused on water polo? What was your life situation then? 476 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,720 Oh, of course, in 1994, 477 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,040 I didn't know what was ahead for me with water polo. 478 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:10,640 You know, I was just sort of starting out 479 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,760 and had a few... (BEEP!) 480 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,600 I'd been on a few trips and it was fun 481 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,160 and I'd made all these new friends. 482 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,800 So, I wasn't as... You know, I loved it. 483 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,800 (BEEP!) (CALL DISCONNECTS) 484 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,200 (WATER SPLASHES, SHOUTING) 485 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,920 (CHEERING) 486 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,560 STACEY GAYLARD: Water polo is a rough sport. 487 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,520 Above the water, yeah, it looks fine. 488 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,240 Underneath the water - kicking, 489 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,800 pulling past each other, swimming over each other. 490 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,440 Yeah, it's rough. 491 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,280 Keli talked me into playing once. 492 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:54,960 And I went through three pairs of swimmers, 493 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,520 four pairs of swimmers, in two games 494 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,560 because they would rip them off you. 495 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,040 I had scratches across this breast 496 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:06,520 right down here to my hip. 497 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,080 And they went, "Yeah, it's nothing." 498 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,200 I went, "Uh, hello. That is a lot. I'm not playing that. 499 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,160 "No, thank you." 500 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,840 What was Keli like as a player? 501 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,400 She wasn't the most skillful player, alright - 502 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,240 far from it, actually - but she had grit and determination. 503 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,440 (MAN CHUCKLES) 504 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,560 Well, that depicts Keli pretty well. 505 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,400 Mischievous smile. 506 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,960 I was fortunate enough to coach the Balmain girls, 507 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,520 and Keli was in the girls' team. 508 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,120 Played her heart out. 509 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,880 Yeah, she loved that team. The team loved her. 510 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,680 The girls could do no wrong. 511 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,360 VIRGINIA TIMMINS: The water polo girls were very good-looking, 512 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,800 very blonde, very attractive. 513 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,040 Tough, strong. 514 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,560 One of them was dating a Wallaby. 515 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,960 That's the kind of relationships they had. 516 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,960 CARO: What was that world like? The water polo world? 517 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,240 Look, I think it can be very cliquey, 518 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,280 you're either in or you're out. 519 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:26,720 And I think they're an interesting organism in of themselves, 520 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,480 you know? 521 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,400 They have their own little world going on. 522 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,320 Did you used to play water polo? WOMAN: Yes. 523 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,880 Oh, great. OK. My name's Caro Meldrum-Hanna. 524 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,680 I'm ringing from the ABC 525 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,240 and I'm hoping that I can have a bit of a chat with you 526 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,360 on, I think a particular person really. 527 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,120 We're looking at the incredible... 528 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,200 (RINGING TONE) 529 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,840 I've had a couple of chats with some girls who were keen to talk to me 530 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,440 and they say now they don't want to 531 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,520 and that other people have told them not to. 532 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,880 Why are you sorry? I don't... 533 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,880 OK, bye. 534 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,880 We're having a lot of trouble 535 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,520 speaking to New South Wales water polo players from this period. 536 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,240 They're closing ranks. 537 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,680 That surprise you? WOMAN: No. 538 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,560 GPS: The destination is on your right. 539 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,160 They're protecting themselves. 540 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,240 Obviously there's things that they don't want you to find out. 541 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,680 Christmas Creek Road. 542 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,360 Goes back to that culture. 543 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,680 What was going on there in New South Wales? 544 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,200 It was, you know, play hard, drink hard. 545 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,960 That was the way it went. 546 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:22,160 They were a team a lot of girls feared. 547 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,720 They played hard, but they also played dirty. 548 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,880 Not everyone, but there was a majority of girls 549 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,680 and probably the posse, 550 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,720 they took delight in being able to... 551 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,360 ..scare the opposition. 552 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,160 Whether it came from the coaching, I don't know. 553 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,000 So, it was, um... 554 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,760 ..yeah, it was an interesting culture, I guess. 555 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,880 REPORTER: But New South Wales began to overpower WA. 556 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,240 I want you to take me to Perth, in January, 1995. 557 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,200 Mm-hm. Paint me a picture. 558 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,120 I was the team manager for the Australian squad 559 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,400 and they were having a practice session 560 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,920 and I was just observing, 561 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,680 watching play, just watching them...the girls play, 562 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,160 and Keli came onto deck. 563 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,200 Which, when I thought back, 564 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,400 I thought, "Yeah, I'd seen her with a towel around her a few times." 565 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,360 And the girls had said to me they thought Keli Lane was pregnant. 566 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,520 What, girls from your team? 567 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,120 Yes, and other teams. 568 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,960 And other coaches had said they thought she was pregnant. 569 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,760 Talk was everywhere. "Keli Lane's pregnant. Keli Lane's pregnant." 570 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,560 Normally she would sit down on the side of the pool 571 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,720 with a towel around her. 572 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,480 She stood up, took the towel off and she was side-on to me. 573 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,920 And I'm...I'm a mum, 574 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,240 I said, "She's pregnant. She's definitely pregnant." 575 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,400 And... No doubt about it. 576 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,840 Nup. My estimation, maybe six months. 577 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,320 This girl should not be playing. 578 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,600 As soon as training had finished 579 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,560 I went straight up to Bruce Falson, who was the coach, 580 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,120 and I just said to him, "Keli Lane is pregnant." 581 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,520 And he said to me, 582 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,840 "I've spoken to Keli about this and she said no, she wasn't." 583 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:16,320 I just sort of shook my head, and nothing...nothing was done. 584 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,000 If there was so much talk, 585 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,320 is there any way that, say, a team manager could not have heard? 586 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,360 No. Unless you were deaf. 587 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,840 (LAUGHS) No. 588 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,640 Well, at that time, Sandy Lane, Keli's mother, 589 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,600 was the team manager. 590 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,200 For New South Wales. Yeah, yep. 591 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,520 Look at this. 592 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,760 Oh, my goodness me. 593 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,600 Did you ever get an inkling, Sandy, because you were the team manager, 594 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,440 did you ever notice Keli's body changing? 595 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,240 No. 596 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,160 And once again, people will go, "How could you not?" 597 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,680 Well, I didn't stand talking to her while she was in the shower, 598 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,280 for instance, so I wouldn't see her in the nude. 599 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,440 Um... 600 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:22,120 And at other times, she'd have clothes on that didn't cling, 601 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,760 so I wouldn't notice anything there. 602 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,880 But Keli was in a swimming costume. 603 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,360 Mm. 604 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,040 How could you not see that a girl in a swimming costume is pregnant? 605 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,280 Because she didn't look differently. 606 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,440 Like, she's one that carried a pregnancy extremely well. 607 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,920 She was never one of those tummy out here jobs. 608 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,200 That pregnancy you saw in January 1995, 609 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,000 Keli Lane was playing the grand final in March. 610 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,600 Yeah. Yeah. 611 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,120 It's... Yeah. 612 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,600 Gosh. Yeah. 613 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,640 I mean, as a mother, that really... It does, it hits home. 614 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,880 Yeah. 615 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,520 What's upsetting you? I don't know. (SNIFFLES) 616 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,000 I just can't imagine anyone doing that. I really can't. 617 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,880 If someone had stepped in and done something back then... 618 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,600 ..would she be where she is today? 619 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,000 There's a lot of people have got a lot to answer for. 620 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,600 Um... 621 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,240 It's terrible. 622 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,280 (CHEERING) 623 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,680 She was playing in the water polo 624 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,560 competition finals 625 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,480 where her team Balmain was playing I think Sydney University. 626 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,120 I mean, you talk reckless, so she goes and plays water polo, 627 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,160 which we know is a violent, well, not violent, 628 00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:31,360 it's a very physical game. 629 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,000 How stressful was that 1995 grand final? 630 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,840 Were you worried playing? KELI: Of course. 631 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,520 Of course. I was worried all the time about different things. 632 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,000 Highly stressed, worried about my health, about the baby's health, 633 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,080 about what I was doing, "Is this OK? 634 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,640 "Should I stop? What am I going to do?" 635 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:54,320 I mean, I wasn't feeling very well. 636 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,280 Obviously I didn't know at the time that that's what happens before... 637 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,040 You know, I obviously knew I was pregnant. 638 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,480 It was going to happen at some stage, 639 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,680 but I didn't know really what the lead-up would be like. 640 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,760 And I was very tired and, yeah, of course I had huge concerns. 641 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,600 But I didn't know how to manage my relationships with people, 642 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,840 I didn't know how to ask for help because people had never shown me 643 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,760 that they were open to me coming to them. 644 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,880 MARK TEDESCHI: That night after the game, which they lost, 645 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,720 they went to a pub at Balmain to have a drink. 646 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,280 At about 9pm they noticed that Keli had disappeared. 647 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,840 But in fact what had happened is she'd gone into labour at the pub. 648 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,400 She then presented to the Balmain Hospital. 649 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,840 MAN: From the notes that I have in front of me 650 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,840 from Balmain Hospital casualty, 651 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,760 in March, at 9:40 in the evening, 652 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,680 I read that a 19-year-old woman, Keli Lane, 653 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,200 was brought into casualty by her boyfriend 654 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,760 who then turned around and left. 655 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,880 Wasn't seen again. 656 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,800 She told me she'd had no problems up to date with the pregnancy. 657 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,000 She had an obstetrician in Perth 658 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,640 and she'd been in Sydney just for three weeks. 659 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,880 To me this presentation for the patient coming in, Keli Lane, 660 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,360 had a basic story that was not outlandish, 661 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,880 was taken on face value and we acted accordingly. 662 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,280 MARK TEDESCHI: On that night that she went into labour 663 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,520 she was transferred to the King George V Hospital 664 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:51,480 where she gave birth to a fully formed, perfectly healthy baby. 665 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,040 And then the rumours came back that she went missing 666 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,240 and the girls from water polo were ringing around the hospitals 667 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,720 to see if Keli Lane had had a baby, 668 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,880 and one of them said yes. 669 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,440 By this stage, 670 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,360 Keli Lane has been missing now from her life, from her parents, 671 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,920 her water polo team, 672 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,400 just gone, vanished. 673 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,120 Now, surely that would raise some suspicions. 674 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,680 To add even more unbelievable on top of unbelievable... 675 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,480 ..it's Keli Lane's birthday. 676 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,520 She's 20. 677 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,520 So, where do her parents think she is, their daughter, 678 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,080 on her 20th birthday? 679 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:46,720 Two days after Keli gave birth, this first time, to a little girl, 680 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,440 it was Keli's birthday. 681 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,960 Mm. Her 20th birthday. 682 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,480 Yeah, it would have been. Yeah. 683 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,600 I'm just trying to get it all in my head. Yep. 684 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,280 Do you remember her 20th birthday? No. 685 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,040 Nup. 686 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,640 What Keli had done is she'd ducked out of hospital. 687 00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:11,240 She was still in hospital, obviously, 688 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,280 she'd only had a baby 48 hours or less earlier. 689 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:19,200 Got a day visitation sort of pass out, a pass out... 690 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,320 ..had a birthday... 691 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,560 ..and then the next morning, early, went back to the hospital. 692 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,240 To me, it kind of shows a strength in a lot of ways 693 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,400 that, um... that she kept it to herself 694 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,560 and dealt with it how she saw fit to deal with it 695 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,800 without letting, you know, us know, for instance. 696 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,400 Um...all of this is news to me. 697 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,360 Even now? Yeah, I've never knew that. 698 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,240 Really? Nup. 699 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,160 I didn't know that she came out of hospital, came home, 700 00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:01,640 had dinner and went back the next morning. 701 00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:03,520 No. 702 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,680 I wasn't privy to any of that sort of stuff. 703 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,520 I'm sorry, Sandy, I didn't know you were in the dark 704 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,600 about lots of details, I really didn't. 705 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,000 That's alright. 706 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,960 I was shattered a very long time ago. 707 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,040 Oh, Sandy, I'm sorry. 708 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,120 KELI: I do remember at the hospital they had a cake for me. 709 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,800 And I remember I just burst into tears and just thought, 710 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,560 "What am I happy about? I can't be happy about anything." 711 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:43,160 She tells the hospital staff she had antenatal care in Perth, 712 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:45,520 that both of her parents are in Perth, 713 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,880 she's got no social support in Sydney 714 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,480 and that she's living at the wrong address. 715 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,000 And that's just the start of the lies. 716 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,520 And she's gone to great effort to do that, being so elaborate. 717 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,720 Because there's no way they can contact anyone. 718 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,960 I've been studying the medical records. 719 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:10,960 KELI: Uh-huh. 720 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,400 And you tell a story about Perth... 721 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,920 KELI: Perth. Perth. Yeah. 722 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,960 Right. That I was from Perth? 723 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,040 Exactly. 724 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,480 Do you remember that story you told? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 725 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,320 Why did you... Why did you tell that story? 726 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,720 I think I picked Perth, 727 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,400 I'm thinking because I'd been there recently. 728 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,960 I'd been to Perth a few times in the early '90s 729 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,720 and it was the furthest place away. 730 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:41,320 So, it was just being young and frightened and telling these lies 731 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,160 to put distance between myself and my family finding out, 732 00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:46,760 all my friends finding out. 733 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,640 MARK TEDESCHI: It had taken months to organise the adoption. 734 00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:03,160 During that time she'd seen the child a number of times 735 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:06,120 and she'd met with the adoptive parents 736 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,000 and she'd found it very emotionally traumatic. 737 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,840 She had no-one to confide in, no-one to trust in, 738 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,080 no-one that she could talk to. 739 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,880 As a human being, carrying that burden 740 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,120 and having to go through an adoption process... 741 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,280 ..it just... 742 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,240 From a human perspective, it's astounding. 743 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,240 INGE JONES: She's young, she's on her own. 744 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,000 That to me straightaway would go, "Hang on a minute." 745 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,480 How the fuck does a girl leave... 746 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,080 Sorry, take the swear word back. 747 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:49,800 How does society let a girl feel so alone? 748 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,800 Or how do we not pick up the signals? 749 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,040 How do we just miss them? 750 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,600 I was really interested to know... KELI: Yeah. 751 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,880 ..what happens for you in your heart, I guess, and your head 752 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,280 after you give your first girl up? 753 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,480 Because to me if I try and place myself in your shoes, 754 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,680 I'm thinking I'd be doing anything to avoid being in that scenario again, 755 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,000 because it was just so hard. 756 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,320 Yeah, it was so hard. 757 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,200 I certainly didn't think, "I'm going to go out and do that again." 758 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,200 That would be, you know... I'd be crazy, literally. 759 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,720 But I just think it was carelessness 760 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,640 and a lack of self-protection 761 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:30,800 and then, you know, drinking a lot, 762 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,240 drinking and not using the pill correctly 763 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,280 or not asking my partner to use protection. 764 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,640 And not having control I think is the biggest thing - 765 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:40,280 is not having control of the situations I was in. 766 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,720 When it was done, it was done and she was safe 767 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,800 and she was happy, and they let me know, 768 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,200 you know, everything is good and so I could just move on. 769 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,520 You know, I could just put it out of my mind. 770 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,120 (BEEP!) (CALL DISCONNECTS) 771 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,880 Life went on. 772 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,000 Hmm. 773 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,160 Now, do you not remember what party this was? 774 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,440 It would be... 775 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,760 That's the 21st. 776 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,280 'Cause I recognise the clothes. 777 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,880 Good party? Terrific party. 778 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,720 Now, that girl standing in those photos there, your daughter... 779 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,080 Mm. 780 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,160 ..at this time here she's pregnant with Tegan. 781 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,840 Oh, well, how could you tell? 782 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,600 About four months pregnant. 783 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,680 Amazing. 784 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:06,120 You said "amazing". What did you mean when you said, "Amazing"? 785 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,760 Well, I mean, look how thin she is. 786 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,080 And we see women these days... 787 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,680 ..because their dresses are too tight, for a start. 788 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,840 (LAUGHS) I'm a bitch. 789 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,160 No. It's just...it's society. It's how things have changed. 790 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,240 Mm. 791 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,480 But, I mean, you can see, 792 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,480 you know, the clothes weren't particularly tight on anybody. 793 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,000 Like, it was just... 794 00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:42,080 REBBECCA BECROFT: She was living her life... 795 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,720 ..as someone who wasn't pregnant - 796 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,480 drinking, partying, going out, 797 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,520 socialising, playing representative water polo. 798 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,480 It's just like this was one part 799 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,240 and then there's this totally other part of her actual life. 800 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,960 A double life. Yeah. Absolutely. 801 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,720 It has to be. 802 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,520 KELI: I was excellent at putting things into boxes and parking them 803 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,560 because I had been, from a very young age, 804 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,760 able to be different things for different people 805 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,480 and trying to please people. 806 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,520 And, you know, I trained from a very young age, 807 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,880 and so I was under coaches from a very young age 808 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,160 and taking direction 809 00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:30,400 and being able to put my emotions aside when things hurt. 810 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,440 When you're training at 8, 9, 10 years old 811 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,240 and physically you're hurting, you put that aside 812 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,080 and your emotions really don't come into it. 813 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,320 So I was excellent at hiding how I felt and what was hurting me. 814 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,240 STACEY GAYLARD: So, we were training at the Olympic Park pool. 815 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,400 Normally we would just walk over to the pool, cap and goggles, 816 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,440 togs on, dive in and away we go. 817 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,040 Kel walked over and, very, very unusually, 818 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,480 she walked over to the edge of the pool and slid into the water. 819 00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:15,280 What did it look like to you when you watched that? 820 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,400 That she was pregnant. 821 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,560 What did you do next? What did you think to do? 822 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,840 Um... 823 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,800 Well, when we were swimming... 824 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,280 ..as we were swimming past each other, we had goggles on, 825 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,680 and it was just a look at her tummy under the water just to confirm... 826 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,360 ..what we thought we had seen. 827 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,360 What did you see? 828 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,880 She was pregnant - heavily pregnant. 829 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,960 Yeah. 830 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:53,400 KELI: Like, wasn't I worth asking? 831 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,680 Like, why were people afraid? Or why did they not want to ask me? 832 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,840 Or I guess that's pushing the responsibility onto them. 833 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,520 But it's kind of sad to think that no-one reached out 834 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,680 and said, "You seem different," 835 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,640 or, "You look different," or, "Are you OK?" 836 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,000 If you had your time over again... 837 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,120 I would ask. Absolutely. 838 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,880 Yeah. 839 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,960 Even though that wall was up... 840 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,600 ..and Keli made it very clear 841 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,800 that...that it was her private business 842 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,160 and she didn't want anyone to know, 843 00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:30,440 but in hindsight I would have asked, "Are you OK?" 844 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,160 You regret not asking? 845 00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:37,080 Yes. 846 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,720 Yeah, I do. 847 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,680 You know, simple words, 848 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,120 simple words that could have made a huge difference to her life. 849 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,520 Yeah. 850 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,800 What about coaching staff? 851 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,160 How could they not have noticed? 852 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,440 The coaches, 853 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,360 the managers, 854 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,280 and all the adults involved... 855 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,680 ..at that time in water polo should have done something. 856 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:17,640 They should have gone to Keli and said, "Are you OK?" 857 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:19,920 I don't believe for a second 858 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,880 that they didn't notice changes 859 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,280 like the girls did. 860 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,120 PHILLIP BOWER: I'm 100% sure 861 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,640 when she was in the state team she was not pregnant, OK? 862 00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:35,760 That I would have noticed, alright? 863 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,960 Because they're probably training four times a week. You'd see them. 864 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,520 Have a look at this. 865 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:44,840 Now, what year is that? 866 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,720 1996 national championships. 867 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,640 Now, Keli Lane, in that team, state team you were coaching there, 868 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:54,240 she's pregnant. 869 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,040 Yep. And, well, OK, I'll take your word for that. 870 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,720 I mean, you just said before, "100% she wasn't pregnant 871 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,440 "when I was coaching her." 872 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,440 No. And I'm... 873 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,240 Can I look at that again just to see who is in that team? 874 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,400 Have a look at that date there. 875 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,680 Wasn't she supposed to...? When was she supposed to have had the baby? 876 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,400 September 1996. 877 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,240 (GASPS) My God, again? 878 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,800 That was Tegan. She's pregnant with Tegan. 879 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:35,600 Wow. 880 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,480 Do you know which baby 881 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,840 that Keli Lane was pregnant with here when you were coaching her? 882 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,240 I've got no idea. 883 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,200 It was Tegan. Right. 884 00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:55,400 Yeah, I'm starting to feel a bit guilty that I didn't realise. 885 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,560 Maybe I was very naive. 886 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:05,600 After that day, I can't recall 887 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,200 Keli being... 888 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,480 ..at a game pregnant. 889 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,680 It makes me think, you know, maybe that was very close to giving birth. 890 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,360 Yes. I think so too. 891 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,720 And it was probably two or three weeks later I saw her again. 892 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,160 And she was clearly not pregnant. 893 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,200 Where is this baby? 894 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,280 What happened to this baby? 895 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,280 And then to do it again the third time. 896 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,080 Who, what and why? 897 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,400 And that's how the whole thing started. 898 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,520 That is how it all unravelled. 899 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,480 How did Keli Lane come undone? 900 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,880 MARK TEDESCHI: During the adoption process 901 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,800 for the third child, a little boy... 902 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,680 ..she repeatedly denied that she'd had any previous children. 903 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,200 She made it almost impossible for the adoption agency Anglicare 904 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,600 to make contact with her. 905 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,560 REBBECCA BECROFT: Extreme. It was lie here, deception there, 906 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:27,640 lie here, trying to cover her tracks continuously. 907 00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:31,520 The amount of lies that she told, half-truths she told, 908 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,880 it was massive. 909 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,000 Absolutely massive. 910 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,720 MARK TEDESCHI: As a result, the initial fostering agreement 911 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,080 which she signed, lapsed. 912 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,480 And the agency was not able to get in touch with her to renew it. 913 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,000 So the adoption agency was obliged to hand the child over 914 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,920 into the care of DoCS, Department of Community Services. 915 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,760 The case eventually went to a Mr. John Borovnik, 916 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,800 who worked for DoCS. 917 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,040 In my view, if it wasn't for John Borovnik, 918 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,120 the disappearance of Tegan Lane 919 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,560 would never have been noticed. 920 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,240 Who's Keli Lane to you? What is she? 921 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,040 JOHN BOROVNIK: She's a dangerous person. She's a psychopath. 922 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,880 In my opinion. 923 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,720 Narcissistic. 924 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,320 Everything revolves around her, plays the victim really well. 925 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,080 She's just a pathological liar and she believes those lies. 926 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,920 Like... Yeah. 927 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,280 Hello, John. Hi, Caro. How are you doing? 928 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,800 It was 1999 and I was on leave. 929 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,560 And I came back and they said, 930 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,960 "Oh, you know, Johno, here's an easy case for you." 931 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,320 Yeah, right. Um... 932 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,240 "We've got this child, 933 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,200 "its mum has put it up for adoption and she just took off." 934 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,800 He started to make inquiries about this mystery woman 935 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,680 who was so difficult to contact. 936 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,360 The first thing I had to do was ring Ryde Hospital. 937 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,960 I said, "I'm ringing up in relation to Keli Lane 938 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,760 "and trying to find her whereabouts." 939 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,120 She said, "Oh, John," she said "Did you know that she was here 940 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,440 "back in 1996, 941 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,240 "40 weeks pregnant?" 942 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,280 And I said, "No." 943 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,040 REBBECCA BECROFT: So, he's looked at the records 944 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,560 and went, "Hang on, you've told us that you've never had a baby before. 945 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:41,520 "So what happened to the baby that you were pregnant with in '96?" 946 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,720 I rang up our branch of adoptions 947 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,400 and I asked to speak to a caseworker 948 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,480 if they had any information regarding a baby back in 1996. 949 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,160 So, another bombshell comes along. 950 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,720 REBBECCA BECROFT: It was lucky that whoever was on the phone 951 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,320 went, "Oh, by the way..." 952 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,360 She said, "Are you talking about the baby in 1995?" 953 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,120 And I looked at my phone and I said... 954 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,960 ..I said, "What baby in 1995?" 955 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,200 I said, "I'm talking about the baby in 1996." 956 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,960 And she said, "What baby in 1996?" 957 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,200 What is going on here? Like, what...? 958 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,800 Who? What? Where? 959 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,840 Her birth was never registered with the Registrar General's Office. 960 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,560 It had been some years that had gone by... 961 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,160 ..without anybody realising that there was a baby missing. 962 00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:36,240 Is she alive? 963 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,920 Is she with the father? 964 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,600 Is she in an illegal adoption with...through Keli? 965 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,320 Like, who knew? No-one knew. 966 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,080 So, had to keep plodding away. 967 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,440 And then got the information back from the Department of Health - 968 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,560 the fax, in letter form, 969 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,760 saying the baby girl by the name Tegan Lee Lane 970 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:05,520 was born at Auburn Hospital on 12 September 1996 by Keli Lane. 971 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,720 Wow. You know, like... 972 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,520 MARK TEDESCHI: She left the hospital with a perfectly healthy young baby 973 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,960 and arrived later at her home without the baby. 974 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,720 REBBECCA BECROFT: Keli was in an absolute conundrum 975 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,080 when she left the hospital. 976 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,960 She's got a wedding to go to. 977 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,440 The child was never seen again, has never been located. 978 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:44,240 And the mother went to a wedding on the peninsula, from memory. 979 00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,720 REBBECCA BECROFT: I watched most of the wedding, 980 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,560 like, what was on the video. 981 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,520 I looked at her... 982 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,520 ..at that wedding and went, "How could you?" 983 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,840 She appears happy and in the moment 984 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,280 and celebrating her friend's wedding, 985 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,800 yet a very short period before 986 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,280 she'd just discharged from hospital with a baby. 987 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,680 And...and she was in white. 988 00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:24,400 Any woman that's given birth would understand 989 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,440 how unique...strange it would be 990 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,320 that you would wear an all-white outfit 991 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,280 two days after giving birth. 992 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,640 John Borovnik became quite determined 993 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:38,760 to find out what had happened to this child, 994 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,880 so he made contact with her. 995 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,360 He rang her at the school 996 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,480 where she was employed as a sports teacher. 997 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,600 That was one of the most bizarre phone calls I've ever had. 998 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,760 And I asked her, I said, "Look, I've got to ask you a few questions 999 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,040 "in regards to some information that I have." 1000 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,200 And she said, "OK." 1001 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,320 KELI: It was like I'd picked up the phone to my greatest nightmare. 1002 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,520 And he just started peppering questions at me. 1003 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,680 I said, "OK, Did you have a live-born baby girl 1004 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,000 "on 12 September at Auburn Hospital?" And she says no. 1005 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:15,400 I looked... You know, I looked at my phone and went, "What?" 1006 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,280 KELI: I felt like I was being attacked. 1007 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,360 "Attack" is probably a bit strong in that way, 1008 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,800 but I felt like I was being made accountable. 1009 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,360 And she says, "Nope. 1010 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,200 "Don't know what you're talking about." 1011 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,440 I went, "Well, I know what I'm talking about. 1012 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,080 "I know what the truth is. 1013 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,000 "I have it in front of me." 1014 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,080 Then that was it, 1015 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,200 that was the end of the phone call. 1016 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,560 It was, like, bringing it all back to me in one hit. 1017 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,480 It was, it was being exposed. 1018 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,760 And I just put the phone down and said, "Gotcha." 1019 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,680 "Yes. Got YOU for this." 1020 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,960 Yeah. 1021 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,560 Did you kill the child? No, I did not. 1022 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,200 She said, "Oh, Mum, something's happened. 1023 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,280 "The police are going to come and see you." 1024 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,600 You have your faith in the police, that they're going to investigate it 1025 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,200 and it didn't happen. 1026 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,120 It was amazing how many records had been destroyed. 1027 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,280 A parlously bad investigation. 1028 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,640 I understand you've got something for me. 1029 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,560 What type of files do we want to recover? All file types. 1030 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,200 I mean, you told me that this young guy's taken the baby to raise it, 1031 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,480 which is really unusual. 1032 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,800 The gloves will be off and she'll have to suffer the consequences. 1033 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,600 We needed to identify the fathers of Keli's children. 1034 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,200 Have you ever spoken publicly about Keli Lane? 1035 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:48,200 No. 1036 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,800 Hi. I'm making a film 1037 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,160 and I'm trying to understand the layout of the building. 1038 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,760 KELI: I really realised, wow... 1039 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,200 ..you should have just been honest from the start. 76916

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