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Right, so see if anything in there
sticks out at you.
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So, it's fae.
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They point out that the toadstool
looks kind of like a UFO.
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-Yeah, I thought that.
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-Look up in the leaves
of the tree
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-Holy fuckin' shit!
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-It's the Green Man.
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-What?!
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-It's the Green Man,
just hiding out, watching.
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-Wow! It's so subtle.
It blends so well.
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Faces in the trees!
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-Faces in the trees.
-Faces in the trees.
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-"And in the tree can be seen
the face of a Green Man.
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Similar to the church-carving
in chapter five."
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[Karl] So it literally is the Green Man.
-It's literally the Green Man.
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-It says, "the object in the foreground
may be stylized toadstool,
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but in certain respects it also
resembles a UFO."
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[Karl, whispering] Fuck!
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[Screams]
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[Laughter]
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-I can't stand it! I love it!
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[Tyler] So Editorhpa is this tale
that I dug up
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regarding these caves
in this interconnected case
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that was published in the 1860’s
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and it details this case of this
mysterious stranger appearing in
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this man's study, claiming that he
is from within the Earth. And the
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book ends up detailing this
mysterious stranger's journey
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which begins in Cincinnati and
actually descends down into
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Kentucky onto this same line of
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latitude that we’re looking
into this phenomena.
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And from that point
it ends up delving into
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these cave systems, where the
man is guided by a
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creature that comes up
from this subterranean realm
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and guides him to this location
that is referred to as the
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“unknown country”.
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So when this man is led to
this cave entrance,
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he starts getting
trepidatious about what his
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adept guide is actually leading
him towards, he actually
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thinks he’s about to be
murdered.
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So in his haste he grabs this bar
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that he finds on the ground
and he goes to strike this
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man and before he can strike
this man down,
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this cold clammy hand grasps
him from behind
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and this man turns around and
he's confronted by
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this pale creature without a
face that’s dripping wet.
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It’s something that crawled up
from this cave system
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and it can speak. and it tells the
man that their intention is not to
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harm him, only to guide him to
this location that exists
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within the earth.
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From this point as the story
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progresses on this man's
journey,
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as he delves deeper into the
earth, he is presented with these
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trials that he has to overcome,
these trials that were designed
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to keep him trapped somewhere
in this space.
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and one of the last trials
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that he encounters is this troop
of beautiful women that appear
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in the cavern, they have this light
glow about them, wearing these
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flowing dresses silken white,
holding instruments and wands.
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and the head of this beautiful
troop of women that he is
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just enamored with, she presents
herself as Editorhpa.
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So with all of this said I still
didn’t understand the reference.
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I didn’t understand why they
would title the book this since
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it had such a small, small role.
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and it wasn’t until doing
further research,
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that I realized Editorhpa is
Aphrodite spelled backward,
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who is the goddess of Venus.
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So in an off-handed way
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this book title is Venus.
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In a subversive manner.
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and what’s so interesting about
that and how it connects into all
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of this, apart from showing
allusions to things that could be
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goblins as well as ships that can
can fly over the water like UFOs,
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is the fact that back in the 1950’s and
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the 1960’s you had so many
contactee reports
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of people talking about
running into these
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spaceship beings claiming they
were from the planet Venus.
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You often find Venus being
associated with trickster elements,
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trickster spirits.
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As well as even fallen angels.
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You see Lucifer himself being
associated with the morning star
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which of course is the planet
Venus.
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So when you break down the
associations of Venus and
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what that represent in different
cultures as well as Aphrodite,
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the goddess of love,
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you see her image in fertility idols,
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ancient fertility idols. and when you
look at these fertility idols you often
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see representations of entities
that even resemble images that
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Crowley drew of this
entity that he called "Lam."
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[Tyler] Oh wow.
[Greg] Oh yeah!
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[Tyler] Weird.
[Greg] That's actually really interesting.
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[Karl] The eyes are exact.
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[Greg] That’s an old fertility
statue, Akua'ba.
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[Karl] That’s fucking Aiwass.
[Tyler] Wow.
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Lam itself appears to be
one of the earliest
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representations of an
extraterrestrial
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or a modern-age grey alien.
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I mean some occultists actually
think that it was
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because of a ritual that Crowley
did in 1917 in New York City that
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actually was what opened a
gateway for these grey aliens
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to first come into our world,
and that the image that
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he drew of Lam is of the first
grey alien.
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Whitley Strieber, one of the most
famous alien abductees of all time--
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He wrote “Communion”,
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He described these "familiar
beings" that he met as being
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similar to the Sumerian goddess
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Ishtar. What Greek goddess was
modeled after Ishtar?
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Aphrodite.
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[Tyler] All of these things are
connected. You have Lam,
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you have extraterrestrials,
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- the greys,
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Crowley,
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Ashtar,
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- Venusians,
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- Aphrodite,
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descent narratives,
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UFOnauts,
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cave creatures,
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goblins.
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♪ Hellier theme ♪
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[Greg] You should sit down.
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We’re gonna send you home
with a present.
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Gonna send you home with
something to think about.
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[Karl] This is so weird.
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- The timing of it was what...
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[Karl] Who writes like this?
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Are you guys serious?
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- The timing of it scared the
fuck out of me.
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Don’t you remember how
upset I was?
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When I was like "I can't believe so
many people have seen this thing."
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- Yeah
- It was because I was positive it had
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gotten out and somebody was
fucking around.
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Because of the word "UFOnauts"
right away I was like,
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"oh this can't be fucking real."
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And the craziest part about all
these emails is,
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she gave so much information in
them, we found her immediately.
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- You actually found her?
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- Oh fuck yeah.
- Well I was gonna say,
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--Karl.
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--There's-- it's so opposite from
the others with the information that
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it feels fake. It's just like
"here's one with a lot of information."
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-That's why I freaked out
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-I’m getting goosebumps
on my arm. Everything you’re
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gonna read in these letters,
I confirmed.
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I confirmed everything.
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[Greg] Fucking caves. We
know where fucking caves are.
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[Tyler] I know where the caves
are.
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- Where fucking people are
disappearing, there’s a -
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[Tyler] Monsters coming out of
them,
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people coming out of caves.
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Karl- Why didn’t you tell me
about these before now?
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- Because I fucking flipped out.
Because I thought, I thought
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somebody saw it. I didn’t fucking
know what to do.
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I didn’t know what to fucking do
with it because I thought
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somebody was fucking with us.
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[Dana] And for the most part we
needed to make sure that this
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wasn’t a hoax, cause it felt a lot
like a hoax.
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- It does at first... yeah
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[Greg] and the fact that it happened
the day -
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[Tyler] the day before I left.
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[Dana] and the day of your being
there for two whole days.
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- That’s what I’m saying, the
intention of what we’re doing,
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it’s like one big ritual.
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And the pinpoint are
like a video game
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when you reach them--
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--So you went to North Carolina
on what day?
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Like let’s not talk theories
and intention
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and ritual shit yet.
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- What it was like January 31st
or something, right?
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[Dana] The dates should be in the emails.
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-Yeah like the dates are here
but I don’t know what...
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[Tyler] We can find the exact day.
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...what day you went.
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[Karl] Like I feel like you guys
are putting me on!
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- No
- No
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[Dana] I know, this is how we felt for
freakin -
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Why do you think we waited so long to say
anything about it?
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I didn’t know what to do.
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[Tyler] This is strange.
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- A mutual friend told me to contact you,
and said you helped him once before.
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[Tyler] Listen. It’s Wriste.
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[Dana] She won’t tell us who it is.
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- But it’s a different name.
Get to it, you'll get to it
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You’ll get to it, let him read through.
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- Yeah it’s all in there. Then she said...
she said.. I mean it’s the same
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fucking thing happening over again.
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- It’s literally the same puppeteer.
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-The best part about it--
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My brain right now is just like,
this can’t.
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Be.
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Real.
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- Welcome to my fucking life.
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But there’s so much old stuff in there,
so many parallels to the earlier stuff.
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- No... fuck. off.
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-What?
-What?
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- SLUF?
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[Tyler] Sluf. That’s what I was waiting
for, sluf.
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- Fucking fuck.
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-But listen--
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'Cause that’s the group
of people that would be
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throwing that term around and
she’s in the group of people.
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- She knows, she knows that term because
of the puppeteer
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that’s been talking to her,
which is Wriste.
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-She knows that term because...
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Wriste isn’t a puppeteer,
he’s a player.
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- But now we’re in it. We’re in it now.
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This is it. This is the beginning.
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[Karl] [sarcastically]
Oh, now we're in it?
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- Well here’s the thing, the end of
Hellier is the beginning of this now.
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- So I realize that’s a lot to drop on you
like the day before you go back, but...
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[Laughing]
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but it was feeling like a
better time than...
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[Droning sounds]
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[Connor] Okay.
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[Karl] You remember when
Strand went to North Carolina?
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- Yeah.
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- Greg got these the night before.
-Oh, is this about this?
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-Oh gosh...
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Wait...
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I don't know who this is.
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My name is Amy [redacted].
My date of birth is...
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I don’t know if I want to get into
this one.
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[Laughing]
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-Yeah
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-What?
-Mmhm.
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-He responded quickly.
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“Almost everyone I know involved.
The CIA. The marine. And navy."
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[Sighs]
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I want to be...
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Of course we’re going to dig
into it all,
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but immediately I’m kind of like...
she’s throwing out everything.
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-Mmhm.
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-It’s military coverups, it’s creepy
Wiccan rituals,
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it’s secret societies and Illuminati,
it's like...
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-It’s like too much.
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"I’m afraid taking a leap of faith
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and coming here is about the
only way you’re going
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to get the answers you seek. "
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No.. no. I’m good.
[laughs]
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You know, I was not expecting all this.
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I was not expecting any of this.
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But I was immediately pretty...
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a pretty hard "no"
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on pursuing this lead.
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Because that’s... at this point it
doesn't become fun anymore, you know?
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When you’re looking into these sort of
disappearances it’s like,
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this is for law enforcement.
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But she hit a couple of key notes.
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and I was mostly annoyed that we couldn’t
just rip these emails up
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and throw them away.
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At a certain level you
have to trust your gut.
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[Karl] The gut feels bad on this one.
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- Yeah it does. and I don’t like there’s
no clear direction.
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I don’t like this one, I don’t know.
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- So basically, for about two hours after
Greg and Tyler and Dana told me this,
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Greg basically just threw down and
had an argument
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for like two hours with Strand.
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[Greg] I’m not saying that I don’t
wanna go, I do wanna go. I wanna go.
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But I want to do it right and I want
to be safe when we do it.
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[Greg, stammering] I'm telling you--
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[Tyler] We can't let this sit.
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- I’m not saying
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- I know what you’re trying to say,
but it’s all fear-based.
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- It’s not fear, it’s a rational fear.
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We had to figure out, is this something
that we need to pursue?
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I was nervous about it,
I was really scared.
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and it weighed, it weighed on me...
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Strand and I got into a bit
of an argument.
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Because Strand was ready to go.
He wanted to leave immediately.
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We had to go and do this, we had to
do it before they packed up and left.
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I was of the mindset that we needed to
prepare properly.
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We need to figure out where
we were gonna go,
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how we were gonna do this,
who we were going to talk to,
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how do we stay incognito.
I’m nervous because
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Amy says “You’re already on their radar”,
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I didn’t want anyone to know that
I was poking around in this yet,
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or that I was even taking this seriously
yet.
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So we got into a bit of a fight
about what to do.
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[Tyler] Well I’m not going to fear death
and things that we don't know are
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going to occur. It's just, it's
It’s just, it’s nonsensical--
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[Greg] It’s not nonsensical!
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- I’m telling you, this phenomena
it's feeding off of that
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It wants you to be afraid,
so why be?
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I’m not afraid of this.
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This stuff has been going on,
with everything that we’ve read
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this has been going on forever.
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It’s the same thing.
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People have been looking into it
forever and it’s never gonna change
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The amount of info that we have
is not gonna change.
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We can keep dissecting it, overanalyzing
it, fearing it.
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like “Well no I’m not ready.
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I’m not ready for this,
we need to do this first."
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or "we have to look into this more.”
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We have enough info.
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That’s not gonna change. We can keep
dissecting stuff down to the smallest
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grain of sand. But it’s still not changing
the fact that it came from
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the same fucking rock that
we know is there.
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It doesn’t matter how much we
scrutinize stuff or look into it,
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I don’t think it’s ever gonna change.
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-Then what's the fucking point?
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Because we have to find out what’s
going on!
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- Why?
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-Because that’s what we do.
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- ... Cause that’s what we do.
- That's what we do.
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So let’s fucking do the recon.
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-I told you I’m fine with the recon.
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I’m fine, I’m fine with doing recon
but like it has to be so...
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-covert.
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- So covert, so low-key.
-Absolutely!
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-I don’t, I just don’t,
I don't know how to do it.
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I don’t know how to appropriately..
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-We know we gotta be safe!
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-I’m done. I’m done talking about it.
-I know you are!
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I’m just saying go!
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-I agree.
-Do it safe!
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I agree. We’ll go and we’ll do it safe.
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There we’re on the same page,
but I don’t wanna talk about anymore.
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- Fine.
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- This is exactly what I was fucking
so afraid of happening.
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[Tyler laughing] What? What's that?
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-Fucking zero control and going crazy.
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-You’re not going crazy!
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-No, the conversations we're having
are crazy.
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-They're not.
-It's insane.
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♪ Quick tempo music ♪
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[Greg] What are we doing Tyler?
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-We are doing recon at Somerset.
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- We’re on the outskirts now.
so far everything looks
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as I’d expect for rural Kentucky.
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[Dana] I was 100% not on board
for Greg and Strand to go to Somerset
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and do recon. I just wasn’t into the idea.
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It seemed like a terrible idea.
I know Strand tends to be
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the kind of person who runs head first
into something,
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and I didn’t want this to be the situation
that he ran headfirst into.
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I knew that it was a rural area so
they probably wouldn’t have
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great cell phone service.
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I specifically told both of them
NOT to go in caves
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and I specifically you know, mentioned to
them to kinda check in with me
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and drop pins
so that I knew where they were.
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Wow look at this... this is insane.
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Holy shit.
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Do you see anything
weird on the ground?
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[Dana] and I was comfortable with it
by those terms.
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but of course that’s not what happened.
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[Tyler] It’s like a whole other world.
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This probably connects to the Mammoth
Cave System for all we know.
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[footsteps]
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[Greg] Holy fuck how far back does it go?
Look at this...
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-Oh my God dude look! It’s literally an
entrance to like the underworld here.
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Insane. Look at this! This is amazing.
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Fuck. This is deep.
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[Greg] Oh Jesus. Yeah dude we
can’t go any further.
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No, no we can. Here give me the light,
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We've just got to get...
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[Greg sighs]
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-Just got to get right there.
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-Godammit
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-Oh my god dude.
-What is it?
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-This is fucking huge.
It's just fuckin huge.
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-Oh shit you can see!
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Right down in there, that’s
where the water is coming from
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-It starts now, it’s activated.
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[Greg] Strand and I went much
further into the cave
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than I think we anticipating
we were going to go.
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and while we were there we start to hear
these sounds, coming from far off
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down further in the cave.
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And it sounded like people. It sounded
like there were people whispering.
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[Greg] Yes. Yes.
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Yeah you think.
Alright let’s turn around and go
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-Fuck
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-We need to leave.
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[Tyler] Just look at this place though.
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Ahh so weird!
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[Tyler] Oh my god!
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[Greg] You see the size
of that fucking bone?
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-Yeah.
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-Look at that.
-What?
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-The size of those bones!
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-I know, I know. Look at this.
It’s a piece of the skull.
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No... maybe.
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One of the last things that we found in
the cave were just big piles of bones.
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all of these little piles everywhere.
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They didn’t look big
enough to be human.
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But
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whatever it was that brought those
bones in, had to be fairly large because
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these were... these weren’t small animal
bones. It didn’t seem like anyway.
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[Greg] There’s vertebrae here,
there’s fucking ribs.
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-What the fuck? Oh my god.
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-So something’s dragging shit in
here to eat.
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-Look at the size of that bone
over there.
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-I know. Something’s dragging
stuff in here to eat it.
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-Oh my god.
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[Footsteps]
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[Tyler] It might be...
this might be the church.
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and that cabin might be somewhere
in the woods like near here.
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It could be anywhere. We might be able
to find it through satellite images.
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It makes more sense, her saying
the entrance is off of Hail Bridge Road
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which we’re still technically on.
-I think we’re on Hail Bridge Road.
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I think this is the chapel.
She mentions this chapel.
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This one’s upkept.
So I’m pretty sure this is where
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the incident in the first emails occurred.
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[Karl] Right off the bat there were
similarities
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between the Amy emails
and the David emails
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that just felt significant to us.
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00:23:05,509 --> 00:23:07,969
It started with even just the subject
line.
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David’s subject line was
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“Urgent help needed, please respond”
Amy’s subject line was
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“Urgent: life and death.”
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But even from there, having a
stranger reach out who doesn’t personally
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know of or know Greg, learned about
Greg through a mysterious figure
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that Greg doesn’t know either.
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They’re both normal people
who had some kind of a strange
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supernatural experience related to
the cave systems, in rural Kentucky,
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in the woods, seemingly a similar type
of phenomena and environment.
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And then they disappear completely
off the grid.
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That stood out, it felt significant.
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I know Greg gets a lot of strange
emails, given the work that he does
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talking about weird experiences.
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but there was something very similar
between these two.
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What was almost more interesting too
was the opposites in the emails,
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it almost seemed like an overcorrection
by the phenomena
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to the point that David was a ghost
who had zero information about him.
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The Amy email she gives us her date of
birth, everything about her,
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addresses, names of people in the town,
Greg found her immediately.
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But where David was apparently a doctor,
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he was very eloquent at the least, very
detailed, he supplied photos.
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Amy was much more marginalized and much
more chaotic, she was typing it out on a cell phone,
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cell phone and there was misspellings.
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Very different in that regard but similar
structurally at their core.
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In the emails that Amy sent
to us, she mentions UFOnauts
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and she mentions SLUF. Those were
the words that we couldn’t overlook.
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00:24:45,609 --> 00:24:51,159
If Amy didn’t learn this word
through research, then
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obviously the other, possibly more likely,
scenario is that she learned it from
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Terry, or from somebody who's in that
circle who uses that kind of term
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to refer to the goblins.
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00:25:05,795 --> 00:25:10,125
And if that is the case that
makes her even scarier.
436
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Because now we’re dealing with somebody
who is in the know with these circles
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that are obviously very...
very intimidating.
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One of the things that really
stuck out to me in Amy’s email
439
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was this reference to
something called “the gatekeeper"
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and immediately it made me
think about all of these reports
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that we had been digging up from hundreds
of years back all the way into
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the present day
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of creatures holding these staffs or
wands that can paralyze people.
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[Amy emails reading]
The gatekeeper is the scariest of them all
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he can actually perform magic.
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I literally began to suffocate as he
whispered and blew me a kiss,
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holding this curved, weird
walking stick and a crystal.
448
00:25:55,387 --> 00:26:00,807
Amy should not have known about these
wands or the staffs.
449
00:26:00,809 --> 00:26:03,439
It just seems like a really obscure element
to include.
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00:26:03,436 --> 00:26:07,186
The other thing that's a common theme
when I get into this is not only
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do a lot of these reports
have things holding wands
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00:26:09,943 --> 00:26:12,653
but you’ll hear a lot about cloaked
figures.
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[Tyler reading]According to Brad Steiger,
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a woman named Norma Hall felt sure
that she had encountered a subterranean
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Inhumanoid as she lay dozing one
night in a motel room...
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she was shocked to see a dark,
smallish figure
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standing motionless in the corner
of the room.
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She soon saw that it was a
hooded figure in a dark robe.
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“I switched on the lamp on the
nightstand” she stated
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“and he put up his hands to shield
his eyes from the bright light.”
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This thing keeps its head
down because it
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doesn’t like the sunlight beating on it.
That’s another recurring theme
463
00:26:43,268 --> 00:26:45,768
we see is these things have a
sensitivity to light.
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“When I got out of bed I towered
over him, I was amazed
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that he seemed even shorter when I stood
before him.
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He was scarcely five feet tall.
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Only his very large eyes with their
black pupils seemed alive.
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His eyes and his little
twitching nose and lips.
469
00:27:02,787 --> 00:27:05,747
He reminded me of a large grey
rat standing there,
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00:27:05,749 --> 00:27:08,499
and I still shudder every time I
think of him.”
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So there’s a tale here
from November 1997,
472
00:27:14,257 --> 00:27:21,557
"Two young outdoorsmen, 22 year old
Duane Berger and his friend Mark, 20,
473
00:27:21,723 --> 00:27:26,653
had decided to camp near an old
deserted Coppermine in Arizona.
474
00:27:26,936 --> 00:27:29,806
'By the time it was dark we had each
downed a couple of long-necked beers'
475
00:27:29,814 --> 00:27:33,154
Duane later said 'and we were just sitting
around the fire, feeling pretty good
476
00:27:33,151 --> 00:27:35,531
about life in general when we began
to hear
477
00:27:35,528 --> 00:27:38,448
these terrible screams that seemed to
be coming from the old mine.'”
478
00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:42,657
[omitted] states she hears these
screams that she thinks is
479
00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:46,581
initially a bobcat, so we have this
already a similar narrative.
480
00:27:46,581 --> 00:27:50,211
“The screams sounded female and
there was more than one of them
481
00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:53,380
screaming out at once in what
sounded like pain,
482
00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:55,880
as if they were being hurt.'
483
00:27:55,882 --> 00:27:58,392
Bravely the two entered the mouth
of the tunnel
484
00:27:58,385 --> 00:28:00,715
weapons and flashlight in hand.
485
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,850
and it says in quotes “we had
barely walked a dozen yards
486
00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:08,310
when we saw a greenish glow
ahead of us.
487
00:28:08,311 --> 00:28:12,981
As we got closer, we could make
out the dark figures of two men
488
00:28:12,982 --> 00:28:16,362
in hooded robes....” as they drew
closer,
489
00:28:16,361 --> 00:28:19,491
they saw that the hooded figures were
barely five foot tall.
490
00:28:19,489 --> 00:28:23,279
then the little men produced what
appeared to be wands of some type,
491
00:28:23,284 --> 00:28:27,334
from which a yellow light erupted,
striking the two and instantly
492
00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:29,580
rendering them immobile."
493
00:28:29,791 --> 00:28:32,171
Even Jacques Vallée, the UFO
researcher who wrote
494
00:28:32,168 --> 00:28:35,338
“Passport to Magonia”, he talks about
these same wands in his book
495
00:28:35,338 --> 00:28:37,418
"Dimensions."
496
00:28:43,596 --> 00:28:45,886
- These reports just keep
going and going.
497
00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:52,153
[Sound of pages turning]
498
00:29:01,197 --> 00:29:04,487
[Tyler] "According to a November
issue of Fate magazine,
499
00:29:04,492 --> 00:29:07,832
a similar fate awaited two
young boys from Pike County.
500
00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:11,289
The youths were seen entering into the
old Truck coal mine 3 miles east
501
00:29:11,291 --> 00:29:14,711
of Pikeville, then they never
came back out.
502
00:29:14,711 --> 00:29:17,461
A full scale search of the mine failed
to turn up any evidence of the missing
503
00:29:17,464 --> 00:29:20,764
boys." What’s weird when I was
looking into Pike County,
504
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:25,639
you fast forward into the year
2008 and that same ridgeway
505
00:29:25,638 --> 00:29:30,138
that overlooks that same mine
has bigfoot sightings,
506
00:29:30,143 --> 00:29:32,153
crawling along the ridges.
507
00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:36,265
"Years later a woman from Pendleton
County named Patsy Wingate
508
00:29:36,274 --> 00:29:40,744
would claim to have disturbing dreams
that might have some relevance here.
509
00:29:40,737 --> 00:29:43,737
Wingate mentions a mountain
near Riverton Kentucky
510
00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:47,540
where a certain UFO was
seen on several occasions.
511
00:29:47,535 --> 00:29:51,205
Once while on the mountain she heard
strange humming sounds
512
00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:54,376
she was certain were coming from
underground.
513
00:29:54,542 --> 00:29:57,842
Later that night she had the most
frightening and vivid dreams
514
00:29:57,837 --> 00:30:01,967
of “children underground on the
mountain begging for help”.
515
00:30:02,342 --> 00:30:06,892
"Researcher Ronald Calais told of
a tunnel laborer digging underground
516
00:30:06,888 --> 00:30:14,518
in 1770, who heard a roaring
sound behind a large flat stone
517
00:30:14,521 --> 00:30:18,231
Curious, he pried away the stone
with pick and crowbar,
518
00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:22,783
and was amazed to see a smooth stone
stairway leading down into the Earth.
519
00:30:22,779 --> 00:30:27,989
Suddenly the stairway ended and
the man was standing in a large stone
520
00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:31,082
cavern filled with gigantic machines,
521
00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:34,794
the astonished laborer glanced
about the well-lit room
522
00:30:34,791 --> 00:30:37,171
then saw hastening toward him
523
00:30:37,168 --> 00:30:39,918
a strangely clad hooded figure.
524
00:30:39,921 --> 00:30:43,301
The being held a baton like object
in his upraised hand."
525
00:30:44,050 --> 00:30:45,760
[Greg] I mean the wands start
to show up...
526
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,760
--They’re in everything!
527
00:30:46,761 --> 00:30:49,971
There's even another report from
an old Native American man
528
00:30:49,973 --> 00:30:52,853
in the west who is talking
about the things in the
529
00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:55,851
Mojave Desert, that live
in the mountains there.
530
00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:58,404
They call them, I don’t know if
I’m pronouncing this... it’s
531
00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:03,438
like the “Hav-musuv." They have these
objects that are like wands
532
00:31:03,444 --> 00:31:07,704
these metal rods, he goes, and
when they point them at you,
533
00:31:07,699 --> 00:31:10,489
he says they can immobilize you.
534
00:31:10,493 --> 00:31:13,203
He goes, or they’ll take out another
object
535
00:31:13,204 --> 00:31:15,964
that’s like a rod and “all death
will follow.”
536
00:31:16,499 --> 00:31:21,249
[Connor] Some of the information
that Tyler was telling us really came
537
00:31:21,254 --> 00:31:22,964
out of left field for me.
538
00:31:22,964 --> 00:31:26,724
This wasn’t the portion of the phenomena
that I had necessarily researched
539
00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:32,308
but finding out that these robed,
hooded figures
540
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:36,977
carrying wands could either be occultists,
541
00:31:36,978 --> 00:31:41,688
which is the natural thing to think,
or could actually be
542
00:31:41,691 --> 00:31:47,281
strange creatures, some sort of members
of the phenomena their selves.
543
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,200
It made me even more weary
because now,
544
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,290
we have to think about, in the little
portion in the back of our mind,
545
00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:59,248
we have to think about the possibility
that if we run into one of these things
546
00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:02,920
they apparently are now armed with weapons
547
00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:06,471
in the form of wands. One of the
stranger things I didn’t
548
00:32:06,466 --> 00:32:08,296
think I’d ever have to think about.
549
00:32:08,676 --> 00:32:14,386
So to go further into that I figured
if she’s telling any ounce of truth
550
00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:21,690
she’s talking about people being tortured,
human sacrifice, all of this stuff.
551
00:32:21,689 --> 00:32:26,189
Kids in the mines, caves, and if that
stuff is happening you would think
552
00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:28,574
there would at least be some
bizarre reports
553
00:32:28,571 --> 00:32:32,081
of people going missing or
people dying in these caves.
554
00:32:32,075 --> 00:32:35,365
Well here’s what’s strange about that.
555
00:32:35,370 --> 00:32:39,790
There are multiple deaths in these
caves quite often.
556
00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:43,591
I'm not going to jump to wild conclusions
557
00:32:43,586 --> 00:32:49,756
but there are some reports here...
that are kind of unsettling.
558
00:32:51,094 --> 00:32:55,354
And we have here: "Spelunker Found Dead
inside Wayne County Cave”
559
00:32:55,348 --> 00:33:00,558
“we found his hoodie. It had been
shredded. Just ripped up” he said.
560
00:33:00,561 --> 00:33:06,571
“and about 200 feet in they found his
body. The way the gear was scattered
561
00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:11,027
through the cave, it doesn’t make sense.
It doesn't." Nothing wrong with him,
562
00:33:11,030 --> 00:33:14,870
items scattered all throughout,
clothing ripped up,
563
00:33:14,867 --> 00:33:16,117
nothing wrong with him.
564
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:20,039
Irisman was not stuck, or injured,
and there was no evidence of
565
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:21,499
foul play.
566
00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:24,793
I mean there's a lot of weird murders,
567
00:33:24,794 --> 00:33:26,554
that are really strange and unanswered,
568
00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:28,206
but I didn't include any of those.
569
00:33:28,214 --> 00:33:30,344
There's a lot that I've read.
570
00:33:30,758 --> 00:33:34,928
"On Saturday someone riding
an all-terrain vehicle
571
00:33:34,929 --> 00:33:40,389
saw a body in a brush pile off
Strawberry Road."
572
00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:44,362
During one of these forums in
the discussion of cave locations
573
00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:48,475
and entrances,
someone is talking about that cave.
574
00:33:48,484 --> 00:33:51,904
It says “a word of warning about the
Strawberry cave,
575
00:33:51,904 --> 00:33:54,414
there’s another cave below that bluff
across the road
576
00:33:54,407 --> 00:33:57,987
not sure if it connects but I have reason
to believe something big is living
577
00:33:57,994 --> 00:34:02,254
in there. I have seen entire cow carcasses
drug into that cavern
578
00:34:02,248 --> 00:34:03,878
and partially eaten."
579
00:34:04,333 --> 00:34:06,633
[Tyler in flashback]
What the fuck there's bones!
580
00:34:06,627 --> 00:34:11,917
Someone responds to this and
they go, "I heard a loud thrashing in
581
00:34:11,924 --> 00:34:17,104
the bushes and this thing around
10 foot or so comes
582
00:34:17,096 --> 00:34:19,266
running out the bushes right
in front of me.
583
00:34:19,265 --> 00:34:21,885
Well what I saw looked more
like a Yeti
584
00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:27,113
that thing stood there looking at me
for a couple of minutes making
585
00:34:27,106 --> 00:34:31,026
some sort of muttering sounds
like a baby crying.
586
00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:38,701
[Connor reading] "The crying baby
phenomenon
587
00:34:38,701 --> 00:34:42,041
is common not only among
UFO witnesses but also among
588
00:34:42,038 --> 00:34:45,918
thousands of ghost and
monster witnesses as well."
589
00:34:46,459 --> 00:34:50,549
But here’s what makes that cave
a little bit more interesting.
590
00:34:50,546 --> 00:34:54,006
[Omitted - Amy] gives us a very
specific address.
591
00:34:55,134 --> 00:35:00,644
This is Hail Bridge Road here
on the map, this is where
592
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,440
Strawberry Road is, it’s separated
by 12 minutes,
593
00:35:04,435 --> 00:35:07,805
in a fairly you know.. driving.
594
00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:12,896
Hail Bridge Road, where this dot is,
595
00:35:13,486 --> 00:35:17,526
where this line of passage goes
to connect it to,
596
00:35:18,449 --> 00:35:25,329
is literally the passageway of
the second longest cave in Kentucky.
597
00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:28,835
The whole time that Strand
is laying all of this out,
598
00:35:28,835 --> 00:35:31,545
it’s just sinking further and
further into my brain that
599
00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:35,336
this is Hellier all over again.
It has to do with cave systems,
600
00:35:35,341 --> 00:35:38,181
potentially the Mammoth
cave system, again.
601
00:35:38,177 --> 00:35:40,507
It has to do with strange creatures
in these caves and people being
602
00:35:40,513 --> 00:35:42,433
terrorized by these strange
creatures.
603
00:35:42,431 --> 00:35:44,891
and now all of a sudden
there is all of this
604
00:35:44,892 --> 00:35:47,312
extra scary stuff that none of us
would've ever seen coming.
605
00:35:47,937 --> 00:35:50,897
[Karl] Now I didn't do as much
research as Tyler did into
606
00:35:50,898 --> 00:35:52,898
Somerset and all this stuff.
607
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:58,280
But the little that I did, uncovered
some weird similarities and parallels.
608
00:35:58,281 --> 00:36:00,621
A simple google search of Somerset
609
00:36:00,616 --> 00:36:03,616
and the Green Man turns up
a New Yorker article about
610
00:36:03,619 --> 00:36:06,119
Julia Somerset who was the wife
611
00:36:06,122 --> 00:36:07,712
of the Earl of Somerset, Somerset
612
00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:12,587
England overseas. She wrote one
article of folklore in her lifetime in
613
00:36:12,587 --> 00:36:17,467
1939, in which she basically laid
out the origin and history of the
614
00:36:17,466 --> 00:36:20,596
Green Man. She named the Green Man.
615
00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:22,345
The fact that we even know
it as such today
616
00:36:22,346 --> 00:36:25,676
was from this woman,
Julia Somerset.
617
00:36:25,892 --> 00:36:30,522
There is a lot of different ideas
attached and associated with
618
00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:35,031
the Green Man. But for the most
part the Green Man is
619
00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:39,656
an archetype
or a deity that is often,
620
00:36:39,655 --> 00:36:41,905
he often appears in Pagan circles.
621
00:36:41,908 --> 00:36:49,288
He represents the woods,
woodland , the harvest, being in nature
622
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:54,840
he’s sort of a guardian of
those spaces and is
623
00:36:54,837 --> 00:36:58,007
interacted with a lot by a
majority of the pagan
624
00:36:58,007 --> 00:37:00,177
community as sort of an archetype
625
00:37:00,176 --> 00:37:04,716
that represents a spirit behind nature.
626
00:37:05,264 --> 00:37:08,024
The idea of a green man has
nothing to do with
627
00:37:08,017 --> 00:37:09,477
human sacrifice. It has to do with
628
00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:12,477
death, but it’s natural death, it’s
death and renewal.
629
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,690
So if there was some cult
dedicated to the Green Man,
630
00:37:15,691 --> 00:37:19,901
it doesn’t make sense that they
would be performing human sacrifice.
631
00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:21,951
Amy mentions Beltane
632
00:37:21,948 --> 00:37:24,738
specifically in the emails, which is
really interesting
633
00:37:24,742 --> 00:37:26,872
when you talk about the Green Man
634
00:37:26,869 --> 00:37:30,999
because he is so connected to that
specific sabbat.
635
00:37:30,998 --> 00:37:38,008
Beltane is a Celtic fire festival,
it’s the end of spring and the
636
00:37:38,005 --> 00:37:41,465
beginning of summer and in a lot of...
637
00:37:41,467 --> 00:37:45,347
in the Wiccan tradition
there is a belief that at that
638
00:37:45,346 --> 00:37:46,676
point of time, if we look at
639
00:37:46,681 --> 00:37:50,391
the cycles of nature the
goddess and the god
640
00:37:50,393 --> 00:37:58,193
come together. It’s a very sensual
festival, it has a lot to do with
641
00:37:58,192 --> 00:38:02,742
creating life.
When you think about summer
642
00:38:02,738 --> 00:38:04,568
you know, we’re about
to come into
643
00:38:04,573 --> 00:38:08,743
a time when gardens are full
and things are coming into
644
00:38:08,744 --> 00:38:11,464
fruition and we’re enjoying the
benefits of a lot of that kind of
645
00:38:11,455 --> 00:38:14,995
stuff and the Green Man is often
the deity that’s represented
646
00:38:15,001 --> 00:38:18,301
as the god during that festival.
647
00:38:24,552 --> 00:38:27,102
[Karl] So over here, if you check it out,
648
00:38:30,474 --> 00:38:33,194
that’s Hopkinsville, that’s Cave City,
649
00:38:33,185 --> 00:38:36,305
that’s Somerset, and that’s Hellier.
650
00:38:40,067 --> 00:38:44,407
[Dana] While Strand is looking into
all of these newspaper
651
00:38:44,405 --> 00:38:47,365
articles about deaths that are
happening, Karl is looking
652
00:38:47,366 --> 00:38:50,786
into all of these locations
that have some kind of a connection.
653
00:38:51,704 --> 00:38:54,504
[Karl] If you draw a line between
them roughly,
654
00:38:54,498 --> 00:38:57,078
and between the averaging
them all,
655
00:38:57,084 --> 00:38:59,464
they’re basically in what kind of
looks like a straight line.
656
00:38:59,712 --> 00:39:04,802
To make matters weirder, all four of these
points fall on the 37th parallel.
657
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,640
The 37th parallel is a theory that was
popularized a few years ago
658
00:39:09,638 --> 00:39:13,888
by Ben Mezrich. He wrote a book
with the same title.
659
00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:19,153
and it basically says that between
the 36th and the 38th parallel
660
00:39:19,148 --> 00:39:24,648
is where there’s an abnormally
large string of strangeness.
661
00:39:24,653 --> 00:39:26,613
Everything from UFO sightings to
662
00:39:26,614 --> 00:39:28,624
cattle mutilations to just straight up
663
00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:32,036
paranormal phenomena. And it
basically lays out this idea that
664
00:39:32,036 --> 00:39:34,996
there’s something going on
on that line
665
00:39:34,997 --> 00:39:38,377
around the planet that makes
it extraordinarily weird.
666
00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:42,086
It’s statistically interesting
because if you look at,
667
00:39:42,088 --> 00:39:45,798
for really populated cities
in that area,
668
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,180
you won’t actually find many.
669
00:39:48,177 --> 00:39:51,507
Most of the cities exist
above or below that,
670
00:39:51,514 --> 00:39:53,394
especially in different
coastal regions.
671
00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:56,061
So you would expect more
sightings,
672
00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:58,150
in those areas with more people.
673
00:39:58,145 --> 00:40:01,935
But because it sort of cuts across
this fairly rural area of
674
00:40:01,941 --> 00:40:08,071
the United States, it seems like
something worth paying attention to.
675
00:40:08,155 --> 00:40:11,025
[Karl] When I drew a vertical line
between Ashland
676
00:40:11,033 --> 00:40:12,623
and the Wriste Coordinates,
677
00:40:12,618 --> 00:40:15,328
they intersected the horizontal line
right beside Hellier.
678
00:40:15,329 --> 00:40:17,419
So then I started
drawing more lines
679
00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:19,915
and I thought, alright let’s put
up Stillwater Bridge.
680
00:40:19,917 --> 00:40:22,707
Interesting. Threw up
Stillwater Bridge on there,
681
00:40:22,711 --> 00:40:25,461
also thought let’s find the exact
spot of these
682
00:40:25,464 --> 00:40:28,684
these tin can UFOs that were
seen so close in Minnesota.
683
00:40:28,676 --> 00:40:32,556
Turns out if you draw a line from
the Tin Can UFO sighting
684
00:40:32,555 --> 00:40:37,435
through Stillwater Bridge, it goes
right through Point Pleasant.
685
00:40:40,062 --> 00:40:42,152
[Greg] That’s bizarre.
686
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,360
-It’s pretty weird.
687
00:40:44,358 --> 00:40:48,398
There’s a nearly perfect line
that goes from Point Pleasant
688
00:40:48,404 --> 00:40:50,914
to Ashland, to Somerset.
689
00:40:50,906 --> 00:40:53,656
If you continue further and you
draw a line
690
00:40:53,659 --> 00:40:56,409
between the Wriste Coordinates
and Cave City
691
00:40:56,412 --> 00:41:00,422
you wind up almost exactly a mile
and a half from my apartment?
692
00:41:01,542 --> 00:41:04,882
[Dana] Oh my god
[Greg laughs]
693
00:41:04,879 --> 00:41:07,049
And if you go ever further,
694
00:41:07,882 --> 00:41:11,392
and you draw a line between
Table Rock, where you guys visited,
695
00:41:11,385 --> 00:41:14,885
you went to Cave City shortly
thereafter that
696
00:41:14,889 --> 00:41:17,729
where you guys visited,
and then where
697
00:41:17,725 --> 00:41:19,055
did you guys go after that
698
00:41:19,059 --> 00:41:21,019
when you got so distracted
from Hellier?
699
00:41:21,896 --> 00:41:23,306
[Greg] Mount Shashta....
700
00:41:23,314 --> 00:41:25,984
[Karl] Finding Bigfoot at Mt Shasta.
[Greg] Get out of here...
701
00:41:25,983 --> 00:41:27,533
What? Is that, right over
the peak?!
702
00:41:27,526 --> 00:41:28,486
-Right over the fuckin peak.
703
00:41:28,486 --> 00:41:29,356
-Right over the peak!
704
00:41:29,361 --> 00:41:31,031
[Tyler] Right over the center of it,
goes right through
705
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:32,240
the circle of that mountain.
706
00:41:32,281 --> 00:41:35,661
-And like the whole story with
that was about you know,
707
00:41:35,659 --> 00:41:38,869
things living in the mountain and
UFOs coming out of the mountain.
708
00:41:38,913 --> 00:41:42,333
-This book right here,
"A Dweller on Two Planets"
709
00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:44,543
is literally a tale that’s torn
between a guy
710
00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:47,093
spending time on Venus
711
00:41:47,087 --> 00:41:50,377
and going underground in
Mt. Shasta.
712
00:41:50,966 --> 00:41:53,796
The spot where Woody Derenberger
met Indrid Cold was very
713
00:41:53,802 --> 00:41:55,722
specific, where he said he met him,
714
00:41:55,721 --> 00:41:57,721
so I put that in on the map
and that one
715
00:41:57,723 --> 00:42:00,313
lines up directly in line
716
00:42:00,309 --> 00:42:02,769
with the Point Pleasant,
Ashland, Somerset line.
717
00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:04,310
Now if you look at that:
718
00:42:04,313 --> 00:42:06,233
Woody Derenberger meeting spot,
719
00:42:06,232 --> 00:42:07,022
Point Pleasant,
720
00:42:07,024 --> 00:42:07,864
Ashland,
721
00:42:07,858 --> 00:42:11,648
chronologically that’s the
progression of Indrid Cold's
722
00:42:11,654 --> 00:42:13,574
locations where he visited
people.
723
00:42:13,697 --> 00:42:17,787
So with Somerset being on that line
you have some interesting
724
00:42:17,785 --> 00:42:20,495
implications there about whether
or not perhaps
725
00:42:20,496 --> 00:42:23,576
Indrid Cold might have passed
through that area?
726
00:42:23,666 --> 00:42:26,666
I tried to use a lot of different
control points on this,
727
00:42:26,669 --> 00:42:29,419
I put Rashad's house
in Willits in it.
728
00:42:31,131 --> 00:42:33,511
I put Tenney's place
in Royal Oak into it.
729
00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:36,934
A bunch of different outlying points
just to test against
730
00:42:36,929 --> 00:42:39,599
and there are places that you try
and you can’t make them
731
00:42:39,598 --> 00:42:40,888
line up with anything.
732
00:42:40,891 --> 00:42:45,601
Also it’s very hard to draw a straight
line on a globe.
733
00:42:45,604 --> 00:42:50,114
There is some room for, you know,
734
00:42:50,859 --> 00:42:52,899
error and embellishment.
735
00:42:52,903 --> 00:42:59,453
But they’re close enough that there’s
a high degree of strangeness.
736
00:43:03,539 --> 00:43:05,539
I’d emailed Amy back and forth
a bunch of times,
737
00:43:05,541 --> 00:43:07,791
and her story didn’t really change.
738
00:43:07,793 --> 00:43:10,343
I just didn't really know what we
could really do about it.
739
00:43:10,337 --> 00:43:13,967
So when we decided it was time
to reach out to her again
740
00:43:13,966 --> 00:43:17,176
I sent her an email and
I didn’t get a response.
741
00:43:18,345 --> 00:43:23,515
And I waited... and I sent her another
email and got no response.
742
00:43:24,018 --> 00:43:26,728
And immediately I just thought
the worst.
743
00:43:27,187 --> 00:43:30,227
Well. Doing a little digging,
it turns out
744
00:43:30,482 --> 00:43:31,692
she was in jail.
745
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,200
There were a list of charges, um...
related to breaking and entering
746
00:43:38,407 --> 00:43:40,117
and burglary.
747
00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:42,449
There was some possession on there.
748
00:43:42,953 --> 00:43:43,623
But
749
00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:48,250
we knew that she was in a space where she
wasn’t going anywhere.
750
00:43:49,251 --> 00:43:52,961
And because of that I didn’t really feel
751
00:43:54,548 --> 00:43:58,088
I didn’t feel like we had a ticking clock
to chase
752
00:43:58,093 --> 00:43:59,973
because she was,
753
00:44:00,846 --> 00:44:01,676
it seemed,
754
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,680
safe.
755
00:44:05,142 --> 00:44:06,772
[Tyler] We always had the concern,
756
00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:07,769
how do we do it safely?
757
00:44:08,062 --> 00:44:09,942
How do we.. how do we have a
good means
758
00:44:10,189 --> 00:44:14,989
of staying in a centralized zone to
really study the phenomena.
759
00:44:15,694 --> 00:44:19,874
I came across a location that is literally
760
00:44:20,908 --> 00:44:23,368
directly off of Buck Creek,
761
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,909
that overlooks the river. And take a look
762
00:44:26,914 --> 00:44:31,254
at this map here, the
Buck Creek Bungalows
763
00:44:32,544 --> 00:44:35,014
which is that location that we can go to
764
00:44:35,005 --> 00:44:37,625
to settle down, is right here.
765
00:44:39,385 --> 00:44:40,965
This river
766
00:44:42,012 --> 00:44:44,222
is Buck Creek.
767
00:44:46,350 --> 00:44:48,190
Hail Bridge Road
768
00:44:48,435 --> 00:44:50,095
is right here.
769
00:44:54,858 --> 00:44:57,108
That is literally waking distance
770
00:44:57,444 --> 00:44:59,664
and with paddle boards and kayaks
771
00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:01,735
that’s literally overlooking the river.
772
00:45:02,449 --> 00:45:07,329
It gives us a perfect viable means
of having every reason to be there.
773
00:45:10,207 --> 00:45:13,287
♪ ♪ ♪
774
00:45:14,461 --> 00:45:16,711
So we have the perfect
775
00:45:16,964 --> 00:45:19,634
Alien Cave Base Task Force
776
00:45:19,967 --> 00:45:21,217
HQ.
777
00:45:24,513 --> 00:45:28,773
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