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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,590 --> 00:00:10,840 Right, so see if anything in there sticks out at you. 2 00:00:11,011 --> 00:00:12,301 So, it's fae. 3 00:00:13,888 --> 00:00:16,638 They point out that the toadstool looks kind of like a UFO. 4 00:00:16,641 --> 00:00:18,641 -Yeah, I thought that. 5 00:00:18,643 --> 00:00:20,273 -Look up in the leaves of the tree 6 00:00:20,270 --> 00:00:23,940 -Holy fuckin' shit! 7 00:00:23,940 --> 00:00:24,900 -It's the Green Man. 8 00:00:25,525 --> 00:00:26,525 -What?! 9 00:00:26,526 --> 00:00:29,646 -It's the Green Man, just hiding out, watching. 10 00:00:29,654 --> 00:00:34,164 -Wow! It's so subtle. It blends so well. 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,449 Faces in the trees! 12 00:00:36,453 --> 00:00:38,463 -Faces in the trees. -Faces in the trees. 13 00:00:38,455 --> 00:00:42,245 -"And in the tree can be seen the face of a Green Man. 14 00:00:42,250 --> 00:00:45,590 Similar to the church-carving in chapter five." 15 00:00:45,587 --> 00:00:48,757 [Karl] So it literally is the Green Man. -It's literally the Green Man. 16 00:00:48,757 --> 00:00:52,427 -It says, "the object in the foreground may be stylized toadstool, 17 00:00:52,427 --> 00:00:55,387 but in certain respects it also resembles a UFO." 18 00:00:55,388 --> 00:00:56,558 [Karl, whispering] Fuck! 19 00:00:58,808 --> 00:01:00,438 [Screams] 20 00:01:00,435 --> 00:01:01,435 [Laughter] 21 00:01:01,436 --> 00:01:04,056 -I can't stand it! I love it! 22 00:01:06,566 --> 00:01:08,896 [Tyler] So Editorhpa is this tale that I dug up 23 00:01:08,902 --> 00:01:11,452 regarding these caves in this interconnected case 24 00:01:11,446 --> 00:01:15,076 that was published in the 1860’s 25 00:01:15,075 --> 00:01:18,995 and it details this case of this mysterious stranger appearing in 26 00:01:18,995 --> 00:01:24,125 this man's study, claiming that he is from within the Earth. And the 27 00:01:24,125 --> 00:01:27,585 book ends up detailing this mysterious stranger's journey 28 00:01:27,587 --> 00:01:32,467 which begins in Cincinnati and actually descends down into 29 00:01:32,467 --> 00:01:33,677 Kentucky onto this same line of 30 00:01:33,676 --> 00:01:37,136 latitude that we’re looking into this phenomena. 31 00:01:37,138 --> 00:01:41,428 And from that point it ends up delving into 32 00:01:41,434 --> 00:01:43,984 these cave systems, where the man is guided by a 33 00:01:43,978 --> 00:01:47,068 creature that comes up from this subterranean realm 34 00:01:47,065 --> 00:01:50,525 and guides him to this location that is referred to as the 35 00:01:50,527 --> 00:01:52,527 “unknown country”. 36 00:01:52,529 --> 00:01:56,949 So when this man is led to this cave entrance, 37 00:01:56,950 --> 00:02:00,330 he starts getting trepidatious about what his 38 00:02:00,328 --> 00:02:02,788 adept guide is actually leading him towards, he actually 39 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:04,709 thinks he’s about to be murdered. 40 00:02:04,707 --> 00:02:07,207 So in his haste he grabs this bar 41 00:02:07,210 --> 00:02:10,380 that he finds on the ground and he goes to strike this 42 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:12,800 man and before he can strike this man down, 43 00:02:12,799 --> 00:02:15,839 this cold clammy hand grasps him from behind 44 00:02:15,844 --> 00:02:19,894 and this man turns around and he's confronted by 45 00:02:19,889 --> 00:02:24,019 this pale creature without a face that’s dripping wet. 46 00:02:24,018 --> 00:02:27,398 It’s something that crawled up from this cave system 47 00:02:27,397 --> 00:02:32,107 and it can speak. and it tells the man that their intention is not to 48 00:02:32,110 --> 00:02:36,450 harm him, only to guide him to this location that exists 49 00:02:36,447 --> 00:02:37,987 within the earth. 50 00:02:37,991 --> 00:02:39,411 From this point as the story 51 00:02:39,409 --> 00:02:41,159 progresses on this man's journey, 52 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:47,711 as he delves deeper into the earth, he is presented with these 53 00:02:47,709 --> 00:02:51,299 trials that he has to overcome, these trials that were designed 54 00:02:51,296 --> 00:02:53,206 to keep him trapped somewhere in this space. 55 00:02:53,214 --> 00:02:54,844 and one of the last trials 56 00:02:54,841 --> 00:02:58,851 that he encounters is this troop of beautiful women that appear 57 00:02:58,845 --> 00:03:02,015 in the cavern, they have this light glow about them, wearing these 58 00:03:02,015 --> 00:03:06,685 flowing dresses silken white, holding instruments and wands. 59 00:03:06,686 --> 00:03:11,066 and the head of this beautiful troop of women that he is 60 00:03:11,065 --> 00:03:14,485 just enamored with, she presents herself as Editorhpa. 61 00:03:14,485 --> 00:03:18,615 So with all of this said I still didn’t understand the reference. 62 00:03:18,615 --> 00:03:22,115 I didn’t understand why they would title the book this since 63 00:03:22,118 --> 00:03:24,118 it had such a small, small role. 64 00:03:24,829 --> 00:03:28,169 and it wasn’t until doing further research, 65 00:03:28,166 --> 00:03:32,996 that I realized Editorhpa is Aphrodite spelled backward, 66 00:03:33,004 --> 00:03:35,094 who is the goddess of Venus. 67 00:03:35,089 --> 00:03:36,379 So in an off-handed way 68 00:03:36,382 --> 00:03:38,382 this book title is Venus. 69 00:03:38,384 --> 00:03:40,934 In a subversive manner. 70 00:03:40,929 --> 00:03:45,429 and what’s so interesting about that and how it connects into all 71 00:03:45,433 --> 00:03:49,313 of this, apart from showing allusions to things that could be 72 00:03:49,312 --> 00:03:53,732 goblins as well as ships that can can fly over the water like UFOs, 73 00:03:53,733 --> 00:03:56,493 is the fact that back in the 1950’s and 74 00:03:56,486 --> 00:03:59,606 the 1960’s you had so many contactee reports 75 00:03:59,614 --> 00:04:02,334 of people talking about running into these 76 00:04:02,325 --> 00:04:06,075 spaceship beings claiming they were from the planet Venus. 77 00:04:06,079 --> 00:04:09,749 You often find Venus being associated with trickster elements, 78 00:04:09,749 --> 00:04:11,579 trickster spirits. 79 00:04:11,584 --> 00:04:13,714 As well as even fallen angels. 80 00:04:13,711 --> 00:04:17,381 You see Lucifer himself being associated with the morning star 81 00:04:17,382 --> 00:04:19,882 which of course is the planet Venus. 82 00:04:19,884 --> 00:04:23,554 So when you break down the associations of Venus and 83 00:04:23,554 --> 00:04:26,854 what that represent in different cultures as well as Aphrodite, 84 00:04:26,849 --> 00:04:28,939 the goddess of love, 85 00:04:28,935 --> 00:04:31,725 you see her image in fertility idols, 86 00:04:31,729 --> 00:04:36,109 ancient fertility idols. and when you look at these fertility idols you often 87 00:04:36,109 --> 00:04:40,279 see representations of entities that even resemble images that 88 00:04:40,697 --> 00:04:43,907 Crowley drew of this entity that he called "Lam." 89 00:04:44,325 --> 00:04:46,365 [Tyler] Oh wow. [Greg] Oh yeah! 90 00:04:46,369 --> 00:04:48,369 [Tyler] Weird. [Greg] That's actually really interesting. 91 00:04:48,705 --> 00:04:50,155 [Karl] The eyes are exact. 92 00:04:50,498 --> 00:04:53,878 [Greg] That’s an old fertility statue, Akua'ba. 93 00:04:54,711 --> 00:04:56,801 [Karl] That’s fucking Aiwass. [Tyler] Wow. 94 00:04:56,796 --> 00:04:59,876 Lam itself appears to be one of the earliest 95 00:04:59,882 --> 00:05:02,762 representations of an extraterrestrial 96 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,140 or a modern-age grey alien. 97 00:05:05,555 --> 00:05:08,345 I mean some occultists actually think that it was 98 00:05:08,349 --> 00:05:12,979 because of a ritual that Crowley did in 1917 in New York City that 99 00:05:12,979 --> 00:05:16,939 actually was what opened a gateway for these grey aliens 100 00:05:16,941 --> 00:05:20,281 to first come into our world, and that the image that 101 00:05:20,278 --> 00:05:23,528 he drew of Lam is of the first grey alien. 102 00:05:23,740 --> 00:05:27,740 Whitley Strieber, one of the most famous alien abductees of all time-- 103 00:05:27,744 --> 00:05:29,254 He wrote “Communion”, 104 00:05:29,245 --> 00:05:32,535 He described these "familiar beings" that he met as being 105 00:05:32,540 --> 00:05:34,710 similar to the Sumerian goddess 106 00:05:34,709 --> 00:05:39,419 Ishtar. What Greek goddess was modeled after Ishtar? 107 00:05:39,422 --> 00:05:40,632 Aphrodite. 108 00:05:41,007 --> 00:05:44,427 [Tyler] All of these things are connected. You have Lam, 109 00:05:44,427 --> 00:05:46,427 you have extraterrestrials, 110 00:05:46,429 --> 00:05:47,389 - the greys, 111 00:05:47,388 --> 00:05:48,138 Crowley, 112 00:05:48,139 --> 00:05:48,679 Ashtar, 113 00:05:48,681 --> 00:05:50,181 - Venusians, 114 00:05:50,183 --> 00:05:51,183 - Aphrodite, 115 00:05:51,184 --> 00:05:52,024 descent narratives, 116 00:05:52,018 --> 00:05:52,808 UFOnauts, 117 00:05:52,810 --> 00:05:53,810 cave creatures, 118 00:05:54,979 --> 00:05:55,729 goblins. 119 00:06:01,027 --> 00:06:03,857 ♪ Hellier theme ♪ 120 00:07:07,468 --> 00:07:08,758 [Greg] You should sit down. 121 00:07:09,929 --> 00:07:11,139 We’re gonna send you home with a present. 122 00:07:11,764 --> 00:07:13,894 Gonna send you home with something to think about. 123 00:07:16,144 --> 00:07:18,524 [Karl] This is so weird. 124 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:20,690 - The timing of it was what... 125 00:07:20,690 --> 00:07:22,650 [Karl] Who writes like this? 126 00:07:22,650 --> 00:07:24,400 Are you guys serious? 127 00:07:24,402 --> 00:07:27,112 - The timing of it scared the fuck out of me. 128 00:07:27,947 --> 00:07:30,367 Don’t you remember how upset I was? 129 00:07:30,366 --> 00:07:34,246 When I was like "I can't believe so many people have seen this thing." 130 00:07:34,245 --> 00:07:37,245 - Yeah - It was because I was positive it had 131 00:07:37,248 --> 00:07:39,538 gotten out and somebody was fucking around. 132 00:07:39,542 --> 00:07:41,792 Because of the word "UFOnauts" right away I was like, 133 00:07:41,794 --> 00:07:43,344 "oh this can't be fucking real." 134 00:07:43,337 --> 00:07:45,627 And the craziest part about all these emails is, 135 00:07:45,631 --> 00:07:49,011 she gave so much information in them, we found her immediately. 136 00:07:49,302 --> 00:07:51,052 - You actually found her? 137 00:07:51,053 --> 00:07:52,353 - Oh fuck yeah. - Well I was gonna say, 138 00:07:52,346 --> 00:07:53,056 --Karl. 139 00:07:53,055 --> 00:07:57,435 --There's-- it's so opposite from the others with the information that 140 00:07:57,435 --> 00:08:01,145 it feels fake. It's just like "here's one with a lot of information." 141 00:08:01,147 --> 00:08:02,147 -That's why I freaked out 142 00:08:02,148 --> 00:08:04,148 -I’m getting goosebumps on my arm. Everything you’re 143 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:06,400 gonna read in these letters, I confirmed. 144 00:08:07,403 --> 00:08:09,953 I confirmed everything. 145 00:08:10,072 --> 00:08:11,912 [Greg] Fucking caves. We know where fucking caves are. 146 00:08:11,908 --> 00:08:12,698 [Tyler] I know where the caves are. 147 00:08:12,700 --> 00:08:16,160 - Where fucking people are disappearing, there’s a - 148 00:08:16,162 --> 00:08:18,042 [Tyler] Monsters coming out of them, 149 00:08:18,039 --> 00:08:19,039 people coming out of caves. 150 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,540 Karl- Why didn’t you tell me about these before now? 151 00:08:20,541 --> 00:08:23,131 - Because I fucking flipped out. Because I thought, I thought 152 00:08:23,127 --> 00:08:25,047 somebody saw it. I didn’t fucking know what to do. 153 00:08:25,087 --> 00:08:27,257 I didn’t know what to fucking do with it because I thought 154 00:08:27,256 --> 00:08:28,376 somebody was fucking with us. 155 00:08:28,382 --> 00:08:31,802 [Dana] And for the most part we needed to make sure that this 156 00:08:31,802 --> 00:08:34,562 wasn’t a hoax, cause it felt a lot like a hoax. 157 00:08:34,555 --> 00:08:36,385 - It does at first... yeah 158 00:08:38,017 --> 00:08:39,477 [Greg] and the fact that it happened the day - 159 00:08:39,477 --> 00:08:41,347 [Tyler] the day before I left. 160 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,360 [Dana] and the day of your being there for two whole days. 161 00:08:45,358 --> 00:08:47,648 - That’s what I’m saying, the intention of what we’re doing, 162 00:08:47,652 --> 00:08:49,282 it’s like one big ritual. 163 00:08:49,278 --> 00:08:51,658 And the pinpoint are like a video game 164 00:08:51,656 --> 00:08:52,486 when you reach them-- 165 00:08:52,490 --> 00:08:56,160 --So you went to North Carolina on what day? 166 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,960 Like let’s not talk theories and intention 167 00:08:58,955 --> 00:09:00,665 and ritual shit yet. 168 00:09:00,665 --> 00:09:01,995 - What it was like January 31st or something, right? 169 00:09:01,999 --> 00:09:02,879 [Dana] The dates should be in the emails. 170 00:09:02,875 --> 00:09:04,875 -Yeah like the dates are here but I don’t know what... 171 00:09:04,877 --> 00:09:06,167 [Tyler] We can find the exact day. 172 00:09:06,170 --> 00:09:07,800 ...what day you went. 173 00:09:08,089 --> 00:09:10,419 [Karl] Like I feel like you guys are putting me on! 174 00:09:10,424 --> 00:09:11,304 - No - No 175 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:12,640 [Dana] I know, this is how we felt for freakin - 176 00:09:12,635 --> 00:09:15,215 Why do you think we waited so long to say anything about it? 177 00:09:17,515 --> 00:09:18,715 I didn’t know what to do. 178 00:09:19,642 --> 00:09:20,482 [Tyler] This is strange. 179 00:09:20,476 --> 00:09:24,306 - A mutual friend told me to contact you, and said you helped him once before. 180 00:09:24,313 --> 00:09:25,653 [Tyler] Listen. It’s Wriste. 181 00:09:25,648 --> 00:09:27,068 [Dana] She won’t tell us who it is. 182 00:09:27,066 --> 00:09:29,146 - But it’s a different name. Get to it, you'll get to it 183 00:09:29,151 --> 00:09:30,191 You’ll get to it, let him read through. 184 00:09:30,194 --> 00:09:32,034 - Yeah it’s all in there. Then she said... she said.. I mean it’s the same 185 00:09:32,029 --> 00:09:35,279 fucking thing happening over again. 186 00:09:35,283 --> 00:09:37,123 - It’s literally the same puppeteer. 187 00:09:37,118 --> 00:09:38,948 -The best part about it-- 188 00:09:38,953 --> 00:09:41,163 My brain right now is just like, this can’t. 189 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:42,251 Be. 190 00:09:42,790 --> 00:09:43,290 Real. 191 00:09:43,291 --> 00:09:44,921 - Welcome to my fucking life. 192 00:09:44,959 --> 00:09:49,879 But there’s so much old stuff in there, so many parallels to the earlier stuff. 193 00:09:49,922 --> 00:09:52,432 - No... fuck. off. 194 00:09:52,425 --> 00:09:53,545 -What? -What? 195 00:09:53,843 --> 00:09:54,393 - SLUF? 196 00:09:54,385 --> 00:09:56,385 [Tyler] Sluf. That’s what I was waiting for, sluf. 197 00:09:56,762 --> 00:09:58,312 - Fucking fuck. 198 00:09:58,306 --> 00:09:59,096 -But listen-- 199 00:09:59,181 --> 00:10:00,681 'Cause that’s the group of people that would be 200 00:10:00,683 --> 00:10:04,023 throwing that term around and she’s in the group of people. 201 00:10:04,020 --> 00:10:06,270 - She knows, she knows that term because of the puppeteer 202 00:10:06,272 --> 00:10:08,652 that’s been talking to her, which is Wriste. 203 00:10:08,649 --> 00:10:09,439 -She knows that term because... 204 00:10:09,442 --> 00:10:11,532 Wriste isn’t a puppeteer, he’s a player. 205 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:16,204 - But now we’re in it. We’re in it now. 206 00:10:16,198 --> 00:10:16,948 This is it. This is the beginning. 207 00:10:16,949 --> 00:10:17,989 [Karl] [sarcastically] Oh, now we're in it? 208 00:10:18,909 --> 00:10:22,709 - Well here’s the thing, the end of Hellier is the beginning of this now. 209 00:10:23,623 --> 00:10:28,133 - So I realize that’s a lot to drop on you like the day before you go back, but... 210 00:10:28,127 --> 00:10:28,877 [Laughing] 211 00:10:28,878 --> 00:10:30,758 but it was feeling like a better time than... 212 00:10:36,093 --> 00:10:38,263 [Droning sounds] 213 00:10:49,273 --> 00:10:50,153 [Connor] Okay. 214 00:10:51,067 --> 00:10:53,647 [Karl] You remember when Strand went to North Carolina? 215 00:10:53,653 --> 00:10:54,493 - Yeah. 216 00:10:55,071 --> 00:10:56,951 - Greg got these the night before. -Oh, is this about this? 217 00:10:58,032 --> 00:10:59,742 -Oh gosh... 218 00:11:03,496 --> 00:11:04,366 Wait... 219 00:11:06,624 --> 00:11:08,544 I don't know who this is. 220 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:14,634 My name is Amy [redacted]. My date of birth is... 221 00:11:17,635 --> 00:11:19,545 I don’t know if I want to get into this one. 222 00:11:19,553 --> 00:11:20,513 [Laughing] 223 00:11:20,763 --> 00:11:21,763 -Yeah 224 00:11:24,558 --> 00:11:27,438 -What? -Mmhm. 225 00:11:27,436 --> 00:11:29,266 -He responded quickly. 226 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:35,280 “Almost everyone I know involved. The CIA. The marine. And navy." 227 00:11:35,486 --> 00:11:37,066 [Sighs] 228 00:11:37,613 --> 00:11:39,373 I want to be... 229 00:11:41,283 --> 00:11:43,203 Of course we’re going to dig into it all, 230 00:11:43,411 --> 00:11:47,921 but immediately I’m kind of like... she’s throwing out everything. 231 00:11:47,957 --> 00:11:48,617 -Mmhm. 232 00:11:48,624 --> 00:11:54,264 -It’s military coverups, it’s creepy Wiccan rituals, 233 00:11:54,255 --> 00:11:58,795 it’s secret societies and Illuminati, it's like... 234 00:11:59,510 --> 00:12:00,970 -It’s like too much. 235 00:12:03,180 --> 00:12:05,140 "I’m afraid taking a leap of faith 236 00:12:05,141 --> 00:12:07,441 and coming here is about the only way you’re going 237 00:12:07,435 --> 00:12:09,095 to get the answers you seek. " 238 00:12:10,938 --> 00:12:14,438 No.. no. I’m good. [laughs] 239 00:12:16,986 --> 00:12:19,906 You know, I was not expecting all this. 240 00:12:20,364 --> 00:12:22,414 I was not expecting any of this. 241 00:12:22,992 --> 00:12:25,372 But I was immediately pretty... 242 00:12:26,746 --> 00:12:28,286 a pretty hard "no" 243 00:12:28,289 --> 00:12:30,879 on pursuing this lead. 244 00:12:31,083 --> 00:12:39,723 Because that’s... at this point it doesn't become fun anymore, you know? 245 00:12:39,717 --> 00:12:43,597 When you’re looking into these sort of disappearances it’s like, 246 00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:45,716 this is for law enforcement. 247 00:12:45,931 --> 00:12:48,021 But she hit a couple of key notes. 248 00:12:48,017 --> 00:12:51,937 and I was mostly annoyed that we couldn’t just rip these emails up 249 00:12:51,937 --> 00:12:52,937 and throw them away. 250 00:12:54,732 --> 00:12:57,322 At a certain level you have to trust your gut. 251 00:12:57,443 --> 00:12:59,533 [Karl] The gut feels bad on this one. 252 00:12:59,528 --> 00:13:03,068 - Yeah it does. and I don’t like there’s no clear direction. 253 00:13:03,491 --> 00:13:05,791 I don’t like this one, I don’t know. 254 00:13:05,785 --> 00:13:14,875 - So basically, for about two hours after Greg and Tyler and Dana told me this, 255 00:13:14,877 --> 00:13:18,507 Greg basically just threw down and had an argument 256 00:13:18,506 --> 00:13:20,466 for like two hours with Strand. 257 00:13:20,591 --> 00:13:24,141 [Greg] I’m not saying that I don’t wanna go, I do wanna go. I wanna go. 258 00:13:25,012 --> 00:13:27,472 But I want to do it right and I want to be safe when we do it. 259 00:13:27,473 --> 00:13:28,893 [Greg, stammering] I'm telling you-- 260 00:13:28,891 --> 00:13:30,181 [Tyler] We can't let this sit. 261 00:13:30,184 --> 00:13:31,694 - I’m not saying 262 00:13:31,685 --> 00:13:36,015 - I know what you’re trying to say, but it’s all fear-based. 263 00:13:36,023 --> 00:13:38,943 - It’s not fear, it’s a rational fear. 264 00:13:39,193 --> 00:13:42,913 We had to figure out, is this something that we need to pursue? 265 00:13:42,905 --> 00:13:45,065 I was nervous about it, I was really scared. 266 00:13:45,074 --> 00:13:47,954 and it weighed, it weighed on me... 267 00:13:51,163 --> 00:13:54,923 Strand and I got into a bit of an argument. 268 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:01,130 Because Strand was ready to go. He wanted to leave immediately. 269 00:14:01,131 --> 00:14:05,261 We had to go and do this, we had to do it before they packed up and left. 270 00:14:06,387 --> 00:14:10,637 I was of the mindset that we needed to prepare properly. 271 00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:14,687 We need to figure out where we were gonna go, 272 00:14:14,687 --> 00:14:17,397 how we were gonna do this, who we were going to talk to, 273 00:14:17,398 --> 00:14:20,728 how do we stay incognito. I’m nervous because 274 00:14:20,734 --> 00:14:23,204 Amy says “You’re already on their radar”, 275 00:14:23,195 --> 00:14:26,445 I didn’t want anyone to know that I was poking around in this yet, 276 00:14:26,448 --> 00:14:29,538 or that I was even taking this seriously yet. 277 00:14:29,535 --> 00:14:33,575 So we got into a bit of a fight about what to do. 278 00:14:33,581 --> 00:14:36,381 [Tyler] Well I’m not going to fear death and things that we don't know are 279 00:14:36,375 --> 00:14:39,245 going to occur. It's just, it's It’s just, it’s nonsensical-- 280 00:14:39,253 --> 00:14:41,633 [Greg] It’s not nonsensical! 281 00:14:41,630 --> 00:14:45,260 - I’m telling you, this phenomena it's feeding off of that 282 00:14:45,259 --> 00:14:47,679 It wants you to be afraid, so why be? 283 00:14:47,678 --> 00:14:49,308 I’m not afraid of this. 284 00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:52,024 This stuff has been going on, with everything that we’ve read 285 00:14:52,016 --> 00:14:53,726 this has been going on forever. 286 00:14:54,602 --> 00:14:55,812 It’s the same thing. 287 00:14:55,811 --> 00:14:59,901 People have been looking into it forever and it’s never gonna change 288 00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:02,439 The amount of info that we have is not gonna change. 289 00:15:02,443 --> 00:15:05,323 We can keep dissecting it, overanalyzing it, fearing it. 290 00:15:05,321 --> 00:15:07,111 like “Well no I’m not ready. 291 00:15:07,114 --> 00:15:09,534 I’m not ready for this, we need to do this first." 292 00:15:09,533 --> 00:15:11,913 or "we have to look into this more.” 293 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:13,911 We have enough info. 294 00:15:13,913 --> 00:15:18,083 That’s not gonna change. We can keep dissecting stuff down to the smallest 295 00:15:18,083 --> 00:15:20,753 grain of sand. But it’s still not changing the fact that it came from 296 00:15:20,753 --> 00:15:22,763 the same fucking rock that we know is there. 297 00:15:22,838 --> 00:15:25,718 It doesn’t matter how much we scrutinize stuff or look into it, 298 00:15:25,883 --> 00:15:27,183 I don’t think it’s ever gonna change. 299 00:15:28,385 --> 00:15:29,715 -Then what's the fucking point? 300 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,350 Because we have to find out what’s going on! 301 00:15:31,347 --> 00:15:32,257 - Why? 302 00:15:32,306 --> 00:15:33,966 -Because that’s what we do. 303 00:15:36,685 --> 00:15:39,645 - ... Cause that’s what we do. - That's what we do. 304 00:15:39,897 --> 00:15:43,147 So let’s fucking do the recon. 305 00:15:43,150 --> 00:15:45,530 -I told you I’m fine with the recon. 306 00:15:45,527 --> 00:15:50,067 I’m fine, I’m fine with doing recon but like it has to be so... 307 00:15:50,074 --> 00:15:50,994 -covert. 308 00:15:50,991 --> 00:15:53,081 - So covert, so low-key. -Absolutely! 309 00:15:54,703 --> 00:15:58,043 -I don’t, I just don’t, I don't know how to do it. 310 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,960 I don’t know how to appropriately.. 311 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,840 -We know we gotta be safe! 312 00:16:03,837 --> 00:16:06,047 -I’m done. I’m done talking about it. -I know you are! 313 00:16:06,048 --> 00:16:08,628 I’m just saying go! 314 00:16:08,634 --> 00:16:10,054 -I agree. -Do it safe! 315 00:16:10,052 --> 00:16:11,932 I agree. We’ll go and we’ll do it safe. 316 00:16:11,929 --> 00:16:15,769 There we’re on the same page, but I don’t wanna talk about anymore. 317 00:16:15,766 --> 00:16:16,386 - Fine. 318 00:16:16,392 --> 00:16:19,442 - This is exactly what I was fucking so afraid of happening. 319 00:16:19,436 --> 00:16:21,856 [Tyler laughing] What? What's that? 320 00:16:21,855 --> 00:16:27,145 -Fucking zero control and going crazy. 321 00:16:27,152 --> 00:16:28,612 -You’re not going crazy! 322 00:16:28,612 --> 00:16:30,572 -No, the conversations we're having are crazy. 323 00:16:30,572 --> 00:16:32,122 -They're not. -It's insane. 324 00:16:33,158 --> 00:16:35,788 ♪ Quick tempo music ♪ 325 00:16:49,216 --> 00:16:51,086 [Greg] What are we doing Tyler? 326 00:16:51,093 --> 00:16:54,353 -We are doing recon at Somerset. 327 00:16:56,098 --> 00:17:01,768 - We’re on the outskirts now. so far everything looks 328 00:17:01,770 --> 00:17:06,190 as I’d expect for rural Kentucky. 329 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,450 [Dana] I was 100% not on board for Greg and Strand to go to Somerset 330 00:17:14,450 --> 00:17:16,950 and do recon. I just wasn’t into the idea. 331 00:17:17,828 --> 00:17:22,208 It seemed like a terrible idea. I know Strand tends to be 332 00:17:22,207 --> 00:17:26,297 the kind of person who runs head first into something, 333 00:17:26,503 --> 00:17:32,223 and I didn’t want this to be the situation that he ran headfirst into. 334 00:17:32,217 --> 00:17:34,797 I knew that it was a rural area so they probably wouldn’t have 335 00:17:34,803 --> 00:17:36,393 great cell phone service. 336 00:17:36,388 --> 00:17:40,678 I specifically told both of them NOT to go in caves 337 00:17:40,684 --> 00:17:44,354 and I specifically you know, mentioned to them to kinda check in with me 338 00:17:44,354 --> 00:17:46,404 and drop pins so that I knew where they were. 339 00:17:46,398 --> 00:17:51,278 Wow look at this... this is insane. 340 00:17:51,862 --> 00:17:54,072 Holy shit. 341 00:17:56,867 --> 00:17:58,907 Do you see anything weird on the ground? 342 00:18:03,999 --> 00:18:08,049 [Dana] and I was comfortable with it by those terms. 343 00:18:08,045 --> 00:18:10,705 but of course that’s not what happened. 344 00:18:11,048 --> 00:18:12,758 [Tyler] It’s like a whole other world. 345 00:18:14,802 --> 00:18:17,182 This probably connects to the Mammoth Cave System for all we know. 346 00:18:20,557 --> 00:18:22,227 [footsteps] 347 00:18:29,691 --> 00:18:33,111 [Greg] Holy fuck how far back does it go? Look at this... 348 00:18:33,487 --> 00:18:38,867 -Oh my God dude look! It’s literally an entrance to like the underworld here. 349 00:18:39,326 --> 00:18:43,706 Insane. Look at this! This is amazing. 350 00:18:58,178 --> 00:19:00,678 Fuck. This is deep. 351 00:19:00,681 --> 00:19:03,181 [Greg] Oh Jesus. Yeah dude we can’t go any further. 352 00:19:03,183 --> 00:19:06,403 No, no we can. Here give me the light, 353 00:19:07,896 --> 00:19:09,606 We've just got to get... 354 00:19:10,190 --> 00:19:12,070 [Greg sighs] 355 00:19:12,067 --> 00:19:13,687 -Just got to get right there. 356 00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:18,566 -Godammit 357 00:19:23,537 --> 00:19:25,327 -Oh my god dude. -What is it? 358 00:19:26,623 --> 00:19:30,213 -This is fucking huge. It's just fuckin huge. 359 00:19:33,463 --> 00:19:35,723 -Oh shit you can see! 360 00:19:36,758 --> 00:19:40,178 Right down in there, that’s where the water is coming from 361 00:19:41,346 --> 00:19:42,716 -It starts now, it’s activated. 362 00:20:05,704 --> 00:20:09,124 [Greg] Strand and I went much further into the cave 363 00:20:09,124 --> 00:20:12,294 than I think we anticipating we were going to go. 364 00:20:12,294 --> 00:20:17,844 and while we were there we start to hear these sounds, coming from far off 365 00:20:17,841 --> 00:20:19,181 down further in the cave. 366 00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:23,850 And it sounded like people. It sounded like there were people whispering. 367 00:20:27,142 --> 00:20:28,102 [Greg] Yes. Yes. 368 00:20:39,488 --> 00:20:42,528 Yeah you think. Alright let’s turn around and go 369 00:20:42,532 --> 00:20:43,282 -Fuck 370 00:20:43,283 --> 00:20:44,243 -We need to leave. 371 00:20:49,539 --> 00:20:51,749 [Tyler] Just look at this place though. 372 00:20:59,424 --> 00:21:01,764 Ahh so weird! 373 00:21:06,348 --> 00:21:07,808 [Tyler] Oh my god! 374 00:21:17,693 --> 00:21:19,033 [Greg] You see the size of that fucking bone? 375 00:21:19,027 --> 00:21:20,027 -Yeah. 376 00:21:20,404 --> 00:21:23,284 -Look at that. -What? 377 00:21:23,282 --> 00:21:24,492 -The size of those bones! 378 00:21:24,491 --> 00:21:29,501 -I know, I know. Look at this. It’s a piece of the skull. 379 00:21:29,496 --> 00:21:31,706 No... maybe. 380 00:21:33,292 --> 00:21:36,672 One of the last things that we found in the cave were just big piles of bones. 381 00:21:36,670 --> 00:21:38,920 all of these little piles everywhere. 382 00:21:38,922 --> 00:21:42,222 They didn’t look big enough to be human. 383 00:21:42,676 --> 00:21:43,676 But 384 00:21:44,428 --> 00:21:48,348 whatever it was that brought those bones in, had to be fairly large because 385 00:21:48,348 --> 00:21:53,018 these were... these weren’t small animal bones. It didn’t seem like anyway. 386 00:21:54,104 --> 00:21:56,274 [Greg] There’s vertebrae here, there’s fucking ribs. 387 00:21:56,273 --> 00:22:00,193 -What the fuck? Oh my god. 388 00:22:00,193 --> 00:22:03,203 -So something’s dragging shit in here to eat. 389 00:22:03,238 --> 00:22:05,238 -Look at the size of that bone over there. 390 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,490 -I know. Something’s dragging stuff in here to eat it. 391 00:22:07,492 --> 00:22:08,452 -Oh my god. 392 00:22:11,538 --> 00:22:14,538 [Footsteps] 393 00:22:25,469 --> 00:22:28,639 [Tyler] It might be... this might be the church. 394 00:22:31,308 --> 00:22:35,308 and that cabin might be somewhere in the woods like near here. 395 00:22:35,312 --> 00:22:38,322 It could be anywhere. We might be able to find it through satellite images. 396 00:22:38,315 --> 00:22:43,855 It makes more sense, her saying the entrance is off of Hail Bridge Road 397 00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:47,322 which we’re still technically on. -I think we’re on Hail Bridge Road. 398 00:22:47,532 --> 00:22:50,582 I think this is the chapel. She mentions this chapel. 399 00:22:50,577 --> 00:22:55,287 This one’s upkept. So I’m pretty sure this is where 400 00:22:55,290 --> 00:22:58,710 the incident in the first emails occurred. 401 00:22:58,710 --> 00:23:01,300 [Karl] Right off the bat there were similarities 402 00:23:01,296 --> 00:23:03,336 between the Amy emails and the David emails 403 00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:05,510 that just felt significant to us. 404 00:23:05,509 --> 00:23:07,969 It started with even just the subject line. 405 00:23:07,969 --> 00:23:09,139 David’s subject line was 406 00:23:09,137 --> 00:23:13,017 “Urgent help needed, please respond” Amy’s subject line was 407 00:23:13,016 --> 00:23:15,136 “Urgent: life and death.” 408 00:23:15,143 --> 00:23:19,653 But even from there, having a stranger reach out who doesn’t personally 409 00:23:19,648 --> 00:23:23,988 know of or know Greg, learned about Greg through a mysterious figure 410 00:23:23,985 --> 00:23:25,945 that Greg doesn’t know either. 411 00:23:25,946 --> 00:23:29,826 They’re both normal people who had some kind of a strange 412 00:23:29,825 --> 00:23:34,405 supernatural experience related to the cave systems, in rural Kentucky, 413 00:23:34,704 --> 00:23:40,094 in the woods, seemingly a similar type of phenomena and environment. 414 00:23:40,085 --> 00:23:43,085 And then they disappear completely off the grid. 415 00:23:44,005 --> 00:23:46,465 That stood out, it felt significant. 416 00:23:46,466 --> 00:23:49,466 I know Greg gets a lot of strange emails, given the work that he does 417 00:23:49,469 --> 00:23:51,719 talking about weird experiences. 418 00:23:51,721 --> 00:23:56,691 but there was something very similar between these two. 419 00:23:56,685 --> 00:24:00,395 What was almost more interesting too was the opposites in the emails, 420 00:24:00,397 --> 00:24:03,567 it almost seemed like an overcorrection by the phenomena 421 00:24:03,567 --> 00:24:08,697 to the point that David was a ghost who had zero information about him. 422 00:24:08,697 --> 00:24:11,947 The Amy email she gives us her date of birth, everything about her, 423 00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:15,330 addresses, names of people in the town, Greg found her immediately. 424 00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:19,879 But where David was apparently a doctor, 425 00:24:19,875 --> 00:24:23,745 he was very eloquent at the least, very detailed, he supplied photos. 426 00:24:23,753 --> 00:24:27,723 Amy was much more marginalized and much more chaotic, she was typing it out on a cell phone, 427 00:24:27,716 --> 00:24:29,296 cell phone and there was misspellings. 428 00:24:29,301 --> 00:24:35,431 Very different in that regard but similar structurally at their core. 429 00:24:35,432 --> 00:24:40,982 In the emails that Amy sent to us, she mentions UFOnauts 430 00:24:40,979 --> 00:24:45,609 and she mentions SLUF. Those were the words that we couldn’t overlook. 431 00:24:45,609 --> 00:24:51,159 If Amy didn’t learn this word through research, then 432 00:24:51,156 --> 00:24:56,576 obviously the other, possibly more likely, scenario is that she learned it from 433 00:24:56,578 --> 00:25:02,498 Terry, or from somebody who's in that circle who uses that kind of term 434 00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:04,671 to refer to the goblins. 435 00:25:05,795 --> 00:25:10,125 And if that is the case that makes her even scarier. 436 00:25:10,133 --> 00:25:15,183 Because now we’re dealing with somebody who is in the know with these circles 437 00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:18,770 that are obviously very... very intimidating. 438 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:23,440 One of the things that really stuck out to me in Amy’s email 439 00:25:23,438 --> 00:25:27,278 was this reference to something called “the gatekeeper" 440 00:25:27,275 --> 00:25:31,655 and immediately it made me think about all of these reports 441 00:25:31,655 --> 00:25:35,655 that we had been digging up from hundreds of years back all the way into 442 00:25:35,659 --> 00:25:36,579 the present day 443 00:25:36,576 --> 00:25:40,496 of creatures holding these staffs or wands that can paralyze people. 444 00:25:40,497 --> 00:25:44,077 [Amy emails reading] The gatekeeper is the scariest of them all 445 00:25:44,084 --> 00:25:46,254 he can actually perform magic. 446 00:25:46,253 --> 00:25:51,133 I literally began to suffocate as he whispered and blew me a kiss, 447 00:25:51,132 --> 00:25:54,802 holding this curved, weird walking stick and a crystal. 448 00:25:55,387 --> 00:26:00,807 Amy should not have known about these wands or the staffs. 449 00:26:00,809 --> 00:26:03,439 It just seems like a really obscure element to include. 450 00:26:03,436 --> 00:26:07,186 The other thing that's a common theme when I get into this is not only 451 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:09,940 do a lot of these reports have things holding wands 452 00:26:09,943 --> 00:26:12,653 but you’ll hear a lot about cloaked figures. 453 00:26:12,696 --> 00:26:14,276 [Tyler reading]According to Brad Steiger, 454 00:26:14,281 --> 00:26:17,371 a woman named Norma Hall felt sure that she had encountered a subterranean 455 00:26:17,367 --> 00:26:21,407 Inhumanoid as she lay dozing one night in a motel room... 456 00:26:21,413 --> 00:26:23,963 she was shocked to see a dark, smallish figure 457 00:26:23,957 --> 00:26:26,167 standing motionless in the corner of the room. 458 00:26:26,167 --> 00:26:28,837 She soon saw that it was a hooded figure in a dark robe. 459 00:26:29,045 --> 00:26:33,085 “I switched on the lamp on the nightstand” she stated 460 00:26:33,091 --> 00:26:36,801 “and he put up his hands to shield his eyes from the bright light.” 461 00:26:36,803 --> 00:26:39,933 This thing keeps its head down because it 462 00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:43,271 doesn’t like the sunlight beating on it. That’s another recurring theme 463 00:26:43,268 --> 00:26:45,768 we see is these things have a sensitivity to light. 464 00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:48,730 “When I got out of bed I towered over him, I was amazed 465 00:26:48,732 --> 00:26:51,652 that he seemed even shorter when I stood before him. 466 00:26:51,651 --> 00:26:53,531 He was scarcely five feet tall. 467 00:26:53,528 --> 00:26:59,448 Only his very large eyes with their black pupils seemed alive. 468 00:26:59,451 --> 00:27:02,791 His eyes and his little twitching nose and lips. 469 00:27:02,787 --> 00:27:05,747 He reminded me of a large grey rat standing there, 470 00:27:05,749 --> 00:27:08,499 and I still shudder every time I think of him.” 471 00:27:08,918 --> 00:27:13,758 So there’s a tale here from November 1997, 472 00:27:14,257 --> 00:27:21,557 "Two young outdoorsmen, 22 year old Duane Berger and his friend Mark, 20, 473 00:27:21,723 --> 00:27:26,653 had decided to camp near an old deserted Coppermine in Arizona. 474 00:27:26,936 --> 00:27:29,806 'By the time it was dark we had each downed a couple of long-necked beers' 475 00:27:29,814 --> 00:27:33,154 Duane later said 'and we were just sitting around the fire, feeling pretty good 476 00:27:33,151 --> 00:27:35,531 about life in general when we began to hear 477 00:27:35,528 --> 00:27:38,448 these terrible screams that seemed to be coming from the old mine.'” 478 00:27:39,157 --> 00:27:42,657 [omitted] states she hears these screams that she thinks is 479 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:46,581 initially a bobcat, so we have this already a similar narrative. 480 00:27:46,581 --> 00:27:50,211 “The screams sounded female and there was more than one of them 481 00:27:50,210 --> 00:27:53,380 screaming out at once in what sounded like pain, 482 00:27:53,380 --> 00:27:55,880 as if they were being hurt.' 483 00:27:55,882 --> 00:27:58,392 Bravely the two entered the mouth of the tunnel 484 00:27:58,385 --> 00:28:00,715 weapons and flashlight in hand. 485 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,850 and it says in quotes “we had barely walked a dozen yards 486 00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:08,310 when we saw a greenish glow ahead of us. 487 00:28:08,311 --> 00:28:12,981 As we got closer, we could make out the dark figures of two men 488 00:28:12,982 --> 00:28:16,362 in hooded robes....” as they drew closer, 489 00:28:16,361 --> 00:28:19,491 they saw that the hooded figures were barely five foot tall. 490 00:28:19,489 --> 00:28:23,279 then the little men produced what appeared to be wands of some type, 491 00:28:23,284 --> 00:28:27,334 from which a yellow light erupted, striking the two and instantly 492 00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:29,580 rendering them immobile." 493 00:28:29,791 --> 00:28:32,171 Even Jacques Vallée, the UFO researcher who wrote 494 00:28:32,168 --> 00:28:35,338 “Passport to Magonia”, he talks about these same wands in his book 495 00:28:35,338 --> 00:28:37,418 "Dimensions." 496 00:28:43,596 --> 00:28:45,886 - These reports just keep going and going. 497 00:28:48,893 --> 00:28:52,153 [Sound of pages turning] 498 00:29:01,197 --> 00:29:04,487 [Tyler] "According to a November issue of Fate magazine, 499 00:29:04,492 --> 00:29:07,832 a similar fate awaited two young boys from Pike County. 500 00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:11,289 The youths were seen entering into the old Truck coal mine 3 miles east 501 00:29:11,291 --> 00:29:14,711 of Pikeville, then they never came back out. 502 00:29:14,711 --> 00:29:17,461 A full scale search of the mine failed to turn up any evidence of the missing 503 00:29:17,464 --> 00:29:20,764 boys." What’s weird when I was looking into Pike County, 504 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:25,639 you fast forward into the year 2008 and that same ridgeway 505 00:29:25,638 --> 00:29:30,138 that overlooks that same mine has bigfoot sightings, 506 00:29:30,143 --> 00:29:32,153 crawling along the ridges. 507 00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:36,265 "Years later a woman from Pendleton County named Patsy Wingate 508 00:29:36,274 --> 00:29:40,744 would claim to have disturbing dreams that might have some relevance here. 509 00:29:40,737 --> 00:29:43,737 Wingate mentions a mountain near Riverton Kentucky 510 00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:47,540 where a certain UFO was seen on several occasions. 511 00:29:47,535 --> 00:29:51,205 Once while on the mountain she heard strange humming sounds 512 00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:54,376 she was certain were coming from underground. 513 00:29:54,542 --> 00:29:57,842 Later that night she had the most frightening and vivid dreams 514 00:29:57,837 --> 00:30:01,967 of “children underground on the mountain begging for help”. 515 00:30:02,342 --> 00:30:06,892 "Researcher Ronald Calais told of a tunnel laborer digging underground 516 00:30:06,888 --> 00:30:14,518 in 1770, who heard a roaring sound behind a large flat stone 517 00:30:14,521 --> 00:30:18,231 Curious, he pried away the stone with pick and crowbar, 518 00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:22,783 and was amazed to see a smooth stone stairway leading down into the Earth. 519 00:30:22,779 --> 00:30:27,989 Suddenly the stairway ended and the man was standing in a large stone 520 00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:31,082 cavern filled with gigantic machines, 521 00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:34,794 the astonished laborer glanced about the well-lit room 522 00:30:34,791 --> 00:30:37,171 then saw hastening toward him 523 00:30:37,168 --> 00:30:39,918 a strangely clad hooded figure. 524 00:30:39,921 --> 00:30:43,301 The being held a baton like object in his upraised hand." 525 00:30:44,050 --> 00:30:45,760 [Greg] I mean the wands start to show up... 526 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,760 --They’re in everything! 527 00:30:46,761 --> 00:30:49,971 There's even another report from an old Native American man 528 00:30:49,973 --> 00:30:52,853 in the west who is talking about the things in the 529 00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:55,851 Mojave Desert, that live in the mountains there. 530 00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:58,404 They call them, I don’t know if I’m pronouncing this... it’s 531 00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:03,438 like the “Hav-musuv." They have these objects that are like wands 532 00:31:03,444 --> 00:31:07,704 these metal rods, he goes, and when they point them at you, 533 00:31:07,699 --> 00:31:10,489 he says they can immobilize you. 534 00:31:10,493 --> 00:31:13,203 He goes, or they’ll take out another object 535 00:31:13,204 --> 00:31:15,964 that’s like a rod and “all death will follow.” 536 00:31:16,499 --> 00:31:21,249 [Connor] Some of the information that Tyler was telling us really came 537 00:31:21,254 --> 00:31:22,964 out of left field for me. 538 00:31:22,964 --> 00:31:26,724 This wasn’t the portion of the phenomena that I had necessarily researched 539 00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:32,308 but finding out that these robed, hooded figures 540 00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:36,977 carrying wands could either be occultists, 541 00:31:36,978 --> 00:31:41,688 which is the natural thing to think, or could actually be 542 00:31:41,691 --> 00:31:47,281 strange creatures, some sort of members of the phenomena their selves. 543 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,200 It made me even more weary because now, 544 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,290 we have to think about, in the little portion in the back of our mind, 545 00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:59,248 we have to think about the possibility that if we run into one of these things 546 00:31:59,250 --> 00:32:02,920 they apparently are now armed with weapons 547 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:06,471 in the form of wands. One of the stranger things I didn’t 548 00:32:06,466 --> 00:32:08,296 think I’d ever have to think about. 549 00:32:08,676 --> 00:32:14,386 So to go further into that I figured if she’s telling any ounce of truth 550 00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:21,690 she’s talking about people being tortured, human sacrifice, all of this stuff. 551 00:32:21,689 --> 00:32:26,189 Kids in the mines, caves, and if that stuff is happening you would think 552 00:32:26,194 --> 00:32:28,574 there would at least be some bizarre reports 553 00:32:28,571 --> 00:32:32,081 of people going missing or people dying in these caves. 554 00:32:32,075 --> 00:32:35,365 Well here’s what’s strange about that. 555 00:32:35,370 --> 00:32:39,790 There are multiple deaths in these caves quite often. 556 00:32:39,791 --> 00:32:43,591 I'm not going to jump to wild conclusions 557 00:32:43,586 --> 00:32:49,756 but there are some reports here... that are kind of unsettling. 558 00:32:51,094 --> 00:32:55,354 And we have here: "Spelunker Found Dead inside Wayne County Cave” 559 00:32:55,348 --> 00:33:00,558 “we found his hoodie. It had been shredded. Just ripped up” he said. 560 00:33:00,561 --> 00:33:06,571 “and about 200 feet in they found his body. The way the gear was scattered 561 00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:11,027 through the cave, it doesn’t make sense. It doesn't." Nothing wrong with him, 562 00:33:11,030 --> 00:33:14,870 items scattered all throughout, clothing ripped up, 563 00:33:14,867 --> 00:33:16,117 nothing wrong with him. 564 00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:20,039 Irisman was not stuck, or injured, and there was no evidence of 565 00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:21,499 foul play. 566 00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:24,793 I mean there's a lot of weird murders, 567 00:33:24,794 --> 00:33:26,554 that are really strange and unanswered, 568 00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:28,206 but I didn't include any of those. 569 00:33:28,214 --> 00:33:30,344 There's a lot that I've read. 570 00:33:30,758 --> 00:33:34,928 "On Saturday someone riding an all-terrain vehicle 571 00:33:34,929 --> 00:33:40,389 saw a body in a brush pile off Strawberry Road." 572 00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:44,362 During one of these forums in the discussion of cave locations 573 00:33:44,355 --> 00:33:48,475 and entrances, someone is talking about that cave. 574 00:33:48,484 --> 00:33:51,904 It says “a word of warning about the Strawberry cave, 575 00:33:51,904 --> 00:33:54,414 there’s another cave below that bluff across the road 576 00:33:54,407 --> 00:33:57,987 not sure if it connects but I have reason to believe something big is living 577 00:33:57,994 --> 00:34:02,254 in there. I have seen entire cow carcasses drug into that cavern 578 00:34:02,248 --> 00:34:03,878 and partially eaten." 579 00:34:04,333 --> 00:34:06,633 [Tyler in flashback] What the fuck there's bones! 580 00:34:06,627 --> 00:34:11,917 Someone responds to this and they go, "I heard a loud thrashing in 581 00:34:11,924 --> 00:34:17,104 the bushes and this thing around 10 foot or so comes 582 00:34:17,096 --> 00:34:19,266 running out the bushes right in front of me. 583 00:34:19,265 --> 00:34:21,885 Well what I saw looked more like a Yeti 584 00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:27,113 that thing stood there looking at me for a couple of minutes making 585 00:34:27,106 --> 00:34:31,026 some sort of muttering sounds like a baby crying. 586 00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:38,701 [Connor reading] "The crying baby phenomenon 587 00:34:38,701 --> 00:34:42,041 is common not only among UFO witnesses but also among 588 00:34:42,038 --> 00:34:45,918 thousands of ghost and monster witnesses as well." 589 00:34:46,459 --> 00:34:50,549 But here’s what makes that cave a little bit more interesting. 590 00:34:50,546 --> 00:34:54,006 [Omitted - Amy] gives us a very specific address. 591 00:34:55,134 --> 00:35:00,644 This is Hail Bridge Road here on the map, this is where 592 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,440 Strawberry Road is, it’s separated by 12 minutes, 593 00:35:04,435 --> 00:35:07,805 in a fairly you know.. driving. 594 00:35:09,816 --> 00:35:12,896 Hail Bridge Road, where this dot is, 595 00:35:13,486 --> 00:35:17,526 where this line of passage goes to connect it to, 596 00:35:18,449 --> 00:35:25,329 is literally the passageway of the second longest cave in Kentucky. 597 00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:28,835 The whole time that Strand is laying all of this out, 598 00:35:28,835 --> 00:35:31,545 it’s just sinking further and further into my brain that 599 00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:35,336 this is Hellier all over again. It has to do with cave systems, 600 00:35:35,341 --> 00:35:38,181 potentially the Mammoth cave system, again. 601 00:35:38,177 --> 00:35:40,507 It has to do with strange creatures in these caves and people being 602 00:35:40,513 --> 00:35:42,433 terrorized by these strange creatures. 603 00:35:42,431 --> 00:35:44,891 and now all of a sudden there is all of this 604 00:35:44,892 --> 00:35:47,312 extra scary stuff that none of us would've ever seen coming. 605 00:35:47,937 --> 00:35:50,897 [Karl] Now I didn't do as much research as Tyler did into 606 00:35:50,898 --> 00:35:52,898 Somerset and all this stuff. 607 00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:58,280 But the little that I did, uncovered some weird similarities and parallels. 608 00:35:58,281 --> 00:36:00,621 A simple google search of Somerset 609 00:36:00,616 --> 00:36:03,616 and the Green Man turns up a New Yorker article about 610 00:36:03,619 --> 00:36:06,119 Julia Somerset who was the wife 611 00:36:06,122 --> 00:36:07,712 of the Earl of Somerset, Somerset 612 00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:12,587 England overseas. She wrote one article of folklore in her lifetime in 613 00:36:12,587 --> 00:36:17,467 1939, in which she basically laid out the origin and history of the 614 00:36:17,466 --> 00:36:20,596 Green Man. She named the Green Man. 615 00:36:20,595 --> 00:36:22,345 The fact that we even know it as such today 616 00:36:22,346 --> 00:36:25,676 was from this woman, Julia Somerset. 617 00:36:25,892 --> 00:36:30,522 There is a lot of different ideas attached and associated with 618 00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:35,031 the Green Man. But for the most part the Green Man is 619 00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:39,656 an archetype or a deity that is often, 620 00:36:39,655 --> 00:36:41,905 he often appears in Pagan circles. 621 00:36:41,908 --> 00:36:49,288 He represents the woods, woodland , the harvest, being in nature 622 00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:54,840 he’s sort of a guardian of those spaces and is 623 00:36:54,837 --> 00:36:58,007 interacted with a lot by a majority of the pagan 624 00:36:58,007 --> 00:37:00,177 community as sort of an archetype 625 00:37:00,176 --> 00:37:04,716 that represents a spirit behind nature. 626 00:37:05,264 --> 00:37:08,024 The idea of a green man has nothing to do with 627 00:37:08,017 --> 00:37:09,477 human sacrifice. It has to do with 628 00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:12,477 death, but it’s natural death, it’s death and renewal. 629 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,690 So if there was some cult dedicated to the Green Man, 630 00:37:15,691 --> 00:37:19,901 it doesn’t make sense that they would be performing human sacrifice. 631 00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:21,951 Amy mentions Beltane 632 00:37:21,948 --> 00:37:24,738 specifically in the emails, which is really interesting 633 00:37:24,742 --> 00:37:26,872 when you talk about the Green Man 634 00:37:26,869 --> 00:37:30,999 because he is so connected to that specific sabbat. 635 00:37:30,998 --> 00:37:38,008 Beltane is a Celtic fire festival, it’s the end of spring and the 636 00:37:38,005 --> 00:37:41,465 beginning of summer and in a lot of... 637 00:37:41,467 --> 00:37:45,347 in the Wiccan tradition there is a belief that at that 638 00:37:45,346 --> 00:37:46,676 point of time, if we look at 639 00:37:46,681 --> 00:37:50,391 the cycles of nature the goddess and the god 640 00:37:50,393 --> 00:37:58,193 come together. It’s a very sensual festival, it has a lot to do with 641 00:37:58,192 --> 00:38:02,742 creating life. When you think about summer 642 00:38:02,738 --> 00:38:04,568 you know, we’re about to come into 643 00:38:04,573 --> 00:38:08,743 a time when gardens are full and things are coming into 644 00:38:08,744 --> 00:38:11,464 fruition and we’re enjoying the benefits of a lot of that kind of 645 00:38:11,455 --> 00:38:14,995 stuff and the Green Man is often the deity that’s represented 646 00:38:15,001 --> 00:38:18,301 as the god during that festival. 647 00:38:24,552 --> 00:38:27,102 [Karl] So over here, if you check it out, 648 00:38:30,474 --> 00:38:33,194 that’s Hopkinsville, that’s Cave City, 649 00:38:33,185 --> 00:38:36,305 that’s Somerset, and that’s Hellier. 650 00:38:40,067 --> 00:38:44,407 [Dana] While Strand is looking into all of these newspaper 651 00:38:44,405 --> 00:38:47,365 articles about deaths that are happening, Karl is looking 652 00:38:47,366 --> 00:38:50,786 into all of these locations that have some kind of a connection. 653 00:38:51,704 --> 00:38:54,504 [Karl] If you draw a line between them roughly, 654 00:38:54,498 --> 00:38:57,078 and between the averaging them all, 655 00:38:57,084 --> 00:38:59,464 they’re basically in what kind of looks like a straight line. 656 00:38:59,712 --> 00:39:04,802 To make matters weirder, all four of these points fall on the 37th parallel. 657 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,640 The 37th parallel is a theory that was popularized a few years ago 658 00:39:09,638 --> 00:39:13,888 by Ben Mezrich. He wrote a book with the same title. 659 00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:19,153 and it basically says that between the 36th and the 38th parallel 660 00:39:19,148 --> 00:39:24,648 is where there’s an abnormally large string of strangeness. 661 00:39:24,653 --> 00:39:26,613 Everything from UFO sightings to 662 00:39:26,614 --> 00:39:28,624 cattle mutilations to just straight up 663 00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:32,036 paranormal phenomena. And it basically lays out this idea that 664 00:39:32,036 --> 00:39:34,996 there’s something going on on that line 665 00:39:34,997 --> 00:39:38,377 around the planet that makes it extraordinarily weird. 666 00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:42,086 It’s statistically interesting because if you look at, 667 00:39:42,088 --> 00:39:45,798 for really populated cities in that area, 668 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,180 you won’t actually find many. 669 00:39:48,177 --> 00:39:51,507 Most of the cities exist above or below that, 670 00:39:51,514 --> 00:39:53,394 especially in different coastal regions. 671 00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:56,061 So you would expect more sightings, 672 00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:58,150 in those areas with more people. 673 00:39:58,145 --> 00:40:01,935 But because it sort of cuts across this fairly rural area of 674 00:40:01,941 --> 00:40:08,071 the United States, it seems like something worth paying attention to. 675 00:40:08,155 --> 00:40:11,025 [Karl] When I drew a vertical line between Ashland 676 00:40:11,033 --> 00:40:12,623 and the Wriste Coordinates, 677 00:40:12,618 --> 00:40:15,328 they intersected the horizontal line right beside Hellier. 678 00:40:15,329 --> 00:40:17,419 So then I started drawing more lines 679 00:40:17,415 --> 00:40:19,915 and I thought, alright let’s put up Stillwater Bridge. 680 00:40:19,917 --> 00:40:22,707 Interesting. Threw up Stillwater Bridge on there, 681 00:40:22,711 --> 00:40:25,461 also thought let’s find the exact spot of these 682 00:40:25,464 --> 00:40:28,684 these tin can UFOs that were seen so close in Minnesota. 683 00:40:28,676 --> 00:40:32,556 Turns out if you draw a line from the Tin Can UFO sighting 684 00:40:32,555 --> 00:40:37,435 through Stillwater Bridge, it goes right through Point Pleasant. 685 00:40:40,062 --> 00:40:42,152 [Greg] That’s bizarre. 686 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,360 -It’s pretty weird. 687 00:40:44,358 --> 00:40:48,398 There’s a nearly perfect line that goes from Point Pleasant 688 00:40:48,404 --> 00:40:50,914 to Ashland, to Somerset. 689 00:40:50,906 --> 00:40:53,656 If you continue further and you draw a line 690 00:40:53,659 --> 00:40:56,409 between the Wriste Coordinates and Cave City 691 00:40:56,412 --> 00:41:00,422 you wind up almost exactly a mile and a half from my apartment? 692 00:41:01,542 --> 00:41:04,882 [Dana] Oh my god [Greg laughs] 693 00:41:04,879 --> 00:41:07,049 And if you go ever further, 694 00:41:07,882 --> 00:41:11,392 and you draw a line between Table Rock, where you guys visited, 695 00:41:11,385 --> 00:41:14,885 you went to Cave City shortly thereafter that 696 00:41:14,889 --> 00:41:17,729 where you guys visited, and then where 697 00:41:17,725 --> 00:41:19,055 did you guys go after that 698 00:41:19,059 --> 00:41:21,019 when you got so distracted  from Hellier? 699 00:41:21,896 --> 00:41:23,306 [Greg] Mount Shashta.... 700 00:41:23,314 --> 00:41:25,984 [Karl] Finding Bigfoot at Mt Shasta. [Greg] Get out of here... 701 00:41:25,983 --> 00:41:27,533 What? Is that, right over the peak?! 702 00:41:27,526 --> 00:41:28,486 -Right over the fuckin peak. 703 00:41:28,486 --> 00:41:29,356 -Right over the peak! 704 00:41:29,361 --> 00:41:31,031 [Tyler] Right over the center of it, goes right through 705 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:32,240 the circle of that mountain. 706 00:41:32,281 --> 00:41:35,661 -And like the whole story with that was about you know, 707 00:41:35,659 --> 00:41:38,869 things living in the mountain and UFOs coming out of the mountain. 708 00:41:38,913 --> 00:41:42,333 -This book right here, "A Dweller on Two Planets" 709 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:44,543 is literally a tale that’s torn between a guy 710 00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:47,093 spending time on Venus 711 00:41:47,087 --> 00:41:50,377 and going underground in Mt. Shasta. 712 00:41:50,966 --> 00:41:53,796 The spot where Woody Derenberger met Indrid Cold was very 713 00:41:53,802 --> 00:41:55,722 specific, where he said he met him, 714 00:41:55,721 --> 00:41:57,721 so I put that in on the map and that one 715 00:41:57,723 --> 00:42:00,313 lines up directly in line 716 00:42:00,309 --> 00:42:02,769 with the Point Pleasant, Ashland, Somerset line. 717 00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:04,310 Now if you look at that: 718 00:42:04,313 --> 00:42:06,233 Woody Derenberger meeting spot, 719 00:42:06,232 --> 00:42:07,022 Point Pleasant, 720 00:42:07,024 --> 00:42:07,864 Ashland, 721 00:42:07,858 --> 00:42:11,648 chronologically that’s the progression of Indrid Cold's 722 00:42:11,654 --> 00:42:13,574 locations where he visited people. 723 00:42:13,697 --> 00:42:17,787 So with Somerset being on that line you have some interesting 724 00:42:17,785 --> 00:42:20,495 implications there about whether or not perhaps 725 00:42:20,496 --> 00:42:23,576 Indrid Cold might have passed through that area? 726 00:42:23,666 --> 00:42:26,666 I tried to use a lot of different control points on this, 727 00:42:26,669 --> 00:42:29,419 I put Rashad's house in Willits in it. 728 00:42:31,131 --> 00:42:33,511 I put Tenney's place in Royal Oak into it. 729 00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:36,934 A bunch of different outlying points just to test against 730 00:42:36,929 --> 00:42:39,599 and there are places that you try and you can’t make them 731 00:42:39,598 --> 00:42:40,888 line up with anything. 732 00:42:40,891 --> 00:42:45,601 Also it’s very hard to draw a straight line on a globe. 733 00:42:45,604 --> 00:42:50,114 There is some room for, you know, 734 00:42:50,859 --> 00:42:52,899 error and embellishment. 735 00:42:52,903 --> 00:42:59,453 But they’re close enough that there’s a high degree of strangeness. 736 00:43:03,539 --> 00:43:05,539 I’d emailed Amy back and forth a bunch of times, 737 00:43:05,541 --> 00:43:07,791 and her story didn’t really change. 738 00:43:07,793 --> 00:43:10,343 I just didn't really know what we could really do about it. 739 00:43:10,337 --> 00:43:13,967 So when we decided it was time to reach out to her again 740 00:43:13,966 --> 00:43:17,176 I sent her an email and I didn’t get a response. 741 00:43:18,345 --> 00:43:23,515 And I waited... and I sent her another email and got no response. 742 00:43:24,018 --> 00:43:26,728 And immediately I just thought the worst. 743 00:43:27,187 --> 00:43:30,227 Well. Doing a little digging, it turns out 744 00:43:30,482 --> 00:43:31,692 she was in jail. 745 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,200 There were a list of charges, um... related to breaking and entering 746 00:43:38,407 --> 00:43:40,117 and burglary. 747 00:43:40,159 --> 00:43:42,449 There was some possession on there. 748 00:43:42,953 --> 00:43:43,623 But 749 00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:48,250 we knew that she was in a space where she wasn’t going anywhere. 750 00:43:49,251 --> 00:43:52,961 And because of that I didn’t really feel 751 00:43:54,548 --> 00:43:58,088 I didn’t feel like we had a ticking clock to chase 752 00:43:58,093 --> 00:43:59,973 because she was, 753 00:44:00,846 --> 00:44:01,676 it seemed, 754 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,680 safe. 755 00:44:05,142 --> 00:44:06,772 [Tyler] We always had the concern, 756 00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:07,769 how do we do it safely? 757 00:44:08,062 --> 00:44:09,942 How do we.. how do we have a good means 758 00:44:10,189 --> 00:44:14,989 of staying in a centralized zone to really study the phenomena. 759 00:44:15,694 --> 00:44:19,874 I came across a location that is literally 760 00:44:20,908 --> 00:44:23,368 directly off of Buck Creek, 761 00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:26,909 that overlooks the river. And take a look 762 00:44:26,914 --> 00:44:31,254 at this map here, the Buck Creek Bungalows 763 00:44:32,544 --> 00:44:35,014 which is that location that we can go to 764 00:44:35,005 --> 00:44:37,625 to settle down, is right here. 765 00:44:39,385 --> 00:44:40,965 This river 766 00:44:42,012 --> 00:44:44,222 is Buck Creek. 767 00:44:46,350 --> 00:44:48,190 Hail Bridge Road 768 00:44:48,435 --> 00:44:50,095 is right here. 769 00:44:54,858 --> 00:44:57,108 That is literally waking distance 770 00:44:57,444 --> 00:44:59,664 and with paddle boards and kayaks 771 00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:01,735 that’s literally overlooking the river. 772 00:45:02,449 --> 00:45:07,329 It gives us a perfect viable means of having every reason to be there. 773 00:45:10,207 --> 00:45:13,287 ♪ ♪ ♪ 774 00:45:14,461 --> 00:45:16,711 So we have the perfect 775 00:45:16,964 --> 00:45:19,634 Alien Cave Base Task Force 776 00:45:19,967 --> 00:45:21,217 HQ. 777 00:45:24,513 --> 00:45:28,773 ♪ "Leave Your Home" By Sons of the West 63274

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