All language subtitles for Hellier.S02 4

[ ♪ Hellier Theme ♪ ]

We had... kind of put
Hellier out of our minds.

We knew that Karl was editing everything,
and we just kinda let it go.

One of the things that keeps popping up
[huffs], even Taunia said this to us,

the harder you look for it,
the less you're going to find it.

And with everything in this case, it
seemed like every time we would

just kind of stop and breathe, and
forget about it, some new weird

lead would pop up.

-How’s everybody doing tonight?
Everybody good? You're gonna be good,

You're gonna be real good,
in about ten minutes.

[Greg] Dana and I are doing a live
stream, for the museum members,

and...

I notice that in the live stream,
an email has popped up.

And, you know, we use our phone
to do the livestream most the time

so we see the stuff that pops in,
we're paying attention, cause we're

interacting with people! And this email
pops up, and it has a title that's

something to the effect of, you know
"Urgent! Life or Death, please respond"

And I thought, well,
that sounds important.

And we get stuff like that often
with like haunted objects and things

and so I just figured, well it's another
haunted object type deal.

So we go through the stream.

We end the stream.

And I remember, "oh we got this
email." So I got back and I open it up

and I start reading it.

And as I'm reading through it,
I start to literally shake.

Because

it was just an expanded version
of the email we got from David

so many years earlier.

So when it finally came time
to go to the coordinate points,

the thing that was really strange
is the night before I left...

I had planned for this trip, I think two
weeks in advance, because

I had been going to school
at the time.

And it just happened to line up on
an in-between area of my semesters

so I had some free time off,

I decided to go out, follow up on what
I presumed was going to be

one of the last leads that hasn't been
looked into yet.

So I was literally at a laundromat
late at night,

literally folding my clothes. And
you gave me a time, you're like

"I'll be free in like twenty minutes."

And Greg picks up the phone.
And the first thing he says,

he goes "I've been waiting for
you to call me."

"You won't believe what
just happened."

I go "what?!"

"... the emails started again."

[laughs in amazement]
I'm like

"what do you mean the emails
started again?"

And then Greg reads the craziest,
scariest email

I've ever heard in my life.

Alright so it's from
Amy [redacted]

she even has a picture attached
to her Gmail address.

9:10 P.M.

"First, if you get this and I'm
missing. Take note it's UFOnauts."

Which is a weird fuckin term to use,
no one uses that.

[Tyler on phone}
Right.

[Dana] No, you would only use that
term if you knew exactly what

that term was associated with.
- Yes.

[Tyler] Right. Exactly.
Exactly.

"First if you get this and I'm missing,
take note it's UFOnauts.

I live by Hail Bridge Road, aka
Ruth community.

I heard a lady screaming bloody murder,
and begging for the torture to stop.

I had run to rescue. Found no one.

I kept searching, stumbled on the
UN

capitalized U-N, space, imaginable.

Time is of the essence. As now I
am a target for the next ritual

and sacrifice.

[Tyler] Oh my god...

-They are literally this whole town.

Coral cave system.

My name is Amy [Redacted]

my date of birth is
[redacted]

Why would you put your date
of birth on there? That's a weird...

- Confirmation
[Dana] For confirmation, yeah.

I'm in serious danger and no police
will do anything as they are

a part of this.

It's government and extreme military
cover up.

I found so much and there's no
way to get it.

Marine occult. Cannibalism. Human
sacrifice. Child torture.

Cave captives and creatures,
everything.

- Oh my god. That's all of it, that's
all of the stuff I've been reading

and thinking about.

That's all of the stuff I've
been thinking about.

-The green man.
[Redacted] Hail bridge road.

The entire community, but the
heart of your green man is here.

I lived seconds away and never
seen it or suspected it.

Right under everyone's nose."
And that's it.

I immediately

became excited.

I... I wanted to know everything.

But then when he started
telling me the details

I realized how paranoid
he was about

what was inside of this email.
And it took a negative turn.

I flipped.

I flipped out.

I didn’t... I mean my first thought
was, somebody saw "Hellier."

Somebody saw a cut of "Hellier"
and now they're trying to

inject themselves in this case.

Someone is trying to become part
of something they think

they're going to get something out of.

And so I lost my mind.

Um, I did not. I didn't know
who to trust,

I didn't... it didn't help my paranoia.
I'm already a paranoid person.

And working on the David case had only
made me more paranoid, after

being in Hellier.

The idea that there's something watching
or someone watching.

And potentially messing with me and
messing with people I love

was a scary thought.

[Dana] "The heart of your
green man is here."

[Tyler] What does she call it the
green man? You guys know what

the Green Man is though, right?

Like the old symbolism of
the Green Man?

I mean, the only thing I knew about
the green man is the

Kelly green men.

[Dana] Are we talking about Pan?

[Tyler] Weird, no like so the Green Man,
in fact oddly enough, like

you'll see this like symbolism in like
Roslyn Chapel, overseas,

Things like that but there's this like old
archetype of the Green Man where like

... you've seen it everywhere, like people
use it it's like a very old

[Greg] Oh, like a nature spirit.

[Dana] It's a man’s' face in leaves.

[Tyler] Yeah, it's overt in Paganism where
like they show him aging like a person.

Or like, you know, he ages with seasons
where

he turns to winter or this and that
but it's this ancient thing

but even that sounds strange where
it ties in...

Well here's the thing, like we were
saying earlier

I found her court records. Like I know she's
a real person, her address is accurate,

I can tell she either has a husband or a
brother who shares the same last name,

he's in prison until 2026.

So obviously she's not... she's an
ostracized part of the

community already.

So the police wouldn't take her
seriously anyway.

[Dana] Yeah.

-Although it's weird because unlike
David, who was a fuckin doctor,

supposedly,

now we have someone who's on
the complete opposite

end of the spectrum.

And is more like someone who
is IN Hellier.

[Dana] These emails aren't from
Hellier though, they're from

Somerset, Kentucky.

[Tyler] Well obviously, ok.

-Yeah, I mean I'm a little...
I'm a little nervous about you

going by yourself to these
coordinates tomorrow

to be perfectly honest.

- Well I mean yeah, you think
I'm not anymore, after you

get that tonight? Of course.

[Dana chuckles nervously]
Oh my god...

UFOnauts was definitely the first one.

which was one of the trigger words
where we were like

"who fuckin knows?"

[Tyler] yeah

-"Who knows? Who saw something?"

So we were super freaked out,
super paranoid.

Like, what happened.

[Karl] Because UFOnauts is like
a word that's been around for

decades but
- You never hear it.

-Like Strand is the guy that
uses that word.

-Yeah exactly. Like the only person
I've ever heard say it

outside of this case and the
people involved in this case,

is like, Tenney.

But that's because Tenney
is old school.

You never hear it in everyday...

[Karl] It's a very old school word,
because now it's just "aliens"

but that used to be the
word for the pilots of the UFO's.

Which is very 1950's.

So this first email, this first email.
I'm looking at it right here.

Right in the first message she has
everything condensed.

And she's talking about

the occult, cannibalism, human
sacrifice, child torture,

cave captives, creatures,
everything.

Is literally what she lays out.

In this first message.

And

what set me off on this paranoia

is, when you and I had first
started talking,

from the get-go, before Hellier
became a thing,

remember when I brought
up randomly

I said have you ever looked into
these missing persons' cases

that seem to be strange?

I had always been bugging you
about the goblins case because

it fascinated me. And way earlier
one of the first things I researched

about you was that case.

And that resonated with me.

Because way, way back, years ago,
I actually received this book.

I actually think I got this
for Christmas.

Oddly enough. It's basically a
compilation of just really bizarre

reports that don't really fit the
bill of anything.

And one of the category of reports
that always stuck with me

more than anything else,

were these subterranean tales.

And those tales had to do with

cave captives, people being
kept underground, and these

kinda weird, sadistic type
scenarios.

So the second this email
came through,

and the second I had been on that
tangent about missing persons

along the Appalachian
range,

it all clicked in my head.

I didn't know what to do,
I didn't know who to trust,

the only thing that seemed
right at the time was

Strand was preparing to go to the
coordinates from the Wriste emails

literally the next day. The timing
was so suspicious.

It was SO suspicious.

And Strand, who was previously
really excited

to go to the coordinates was
now losing his mind freaking out.

Because...

I was reading him, I remember
reading him the emails on the phone.

And hearing him get concerned.

Because he was going by himself,
alone, to a place he'd never

been before that's in the
mountains.

It was really scary. And frightening.
And really frustrating.

I lost my shit.

I lost my shit.

And it made me really paranoid.

Really, for... months.

I mean I'm still paranoid about
it. Because we don't know

what to do with it yet.

I told Dana, not too long
before you called,

it's... I don't know I can't
shake the feeling that there's

somebody or something,

with some weird over-arching view,

that went "yep, here you go.

It's the right time. Boom."

♪ eerie tones ♪

[Dana] Ok.

So this woman emailed me
back at 3:58 this morning.

[Dana] No but tell me, first of
all tell me

the research that we did
last night.

One of her relatives is in prison
for ten years.

Another one is in prison
for twenty.

They are a very rough group
of people.

And clearly have a lot of.
A lot of legal problems.

Not the type of people you'd
just want to get mixed up with.

[Dana] No.

Are you good?

[Dana] Yeah.

[sniff]

So this woman, Amy ---

wrote back at 3:58 AM.

[Dana] 3:58 AM.

Holy shit.

Are you ready?

[Dana, concernedly]
Oh my god, Greg.

"Wiccan marine occult. In July,

me and my ex-boyfriend were
staying in a camper near the lake.

It was very secluded, no running
water, no electricity, nothing

but nature, me and him
and a few flashlights

and beam lanterns.

Late one night, we believed a
bobcat scream then it got

deeper and began saying words.
[Voice becomes female with accent]

Pleading for whatever
or whoever to stop the torture.

I immediately ran to rescue.
My boyfriend grabbed me

and pulled me back in,

maniacally turning lights
off and covering my mouth.

He said "there's nothing we can
do for her with no weapons besides

getting ourselves killed too."

I had to listen to her for the next
30 minutes until she grew silent.

Finally daylight came and I
began the hunt,

tracking and marking each
track as I searched.

I hiked to discover a cabin that
I had, in fact, been familiar with

for seventeen years,

but it seemed like I was seeing
the cabin for the first time.

Caged windows, and doors, and
not one but two thick log chains.

And a gate across the drive
with military grade padlocks

on the thick metal cage
entrance.

No way in.

Mind you, I was determined to help.

So I crawled in under the cage
and went in against my better

judgement.

Beds were chained to rafters.
In the attic, blood and feces stained

the beds.

Trap doors, booby traps,
weird designs.

And human bones.

I found bleeding bowls.
Human teeth.

Bone carvings, weird photos.

And a lot of paperwork.

They have a system. They park
cars at them and set timers

for the power.

And then they tunnel
underground.

Faces in the trees.

I called the police, and they
all but told me they needed more.

I had nothing but breaking
and entering to go with.

I found that I now was in
definite danger

when I learned that they
were performing rituals

based on Pagan/Wiccan beliefs.

I'm alone with no family
or friends.

All have been ruined
by... this craziness.

I'm terribly scared and I've found
that this entire town is a part of it.

It's ground zero.

The out of towners are members,
and the local elders?

Well, they're all aware.

Trust me. The caves and the
caverns and the mines

go from Virginia to Ohio to
Indiana and Tennessee.

I have a boat to take to the entrance,
but I do not want to go in them again

until I know I have backup
that they're afraid of.

The gatekeeper is the scariest
of them all.

He can actually perform
magic.

Trust me, I'm a skeptic.

I literally began to suffocate
as he whispered and blew

me a kiss, holding this curved,
weird walking stick and a crystal.

Most everyone I know
is involved.

The CIA, and the Marines,
and Navy.

It is so insane that I almost
didn't write you,

expecting you to write
it off.

But I'm out of options and
will, in fact, be murdered

in these hills if someone
doesn't help me.

I've seen things that will
blow your mind

and forever change your reality
for good.

It did mine, and now I'm scared,
alone, and hopeless

and I'm turning to you.

Please. Tread quietly."

I don't know.

This is, this is just... unbridled
insanity.

She just emailed again.
12:17 P.M.

"I can't go back to get photos
of the blood, hair, teeth

I have them actually in a
secure location on

[redacted].

2. Is a link. 3. The Green Man is
a god they worship.

I believe that they held their
victims captive underground.

You always hear the hum
of the ground."

Agh, this is exactly what Tyler
was talking about last night.

[Dana] But here's the thing, here's
what's very strange...

it's exactly what David said.

You realize that, right?

It's like, this is, this is another
David email

- Yeah, but David sent pictures.

- Yeah but what I'm trying to say
is this is the equivalent of

a David email,

all of these years later.

- It is. It's the same thing.

- It's somebody trying to get us
to go out to the fucking middle

of nowhere, in Kentucky...

She gave her name, her
date of birth,

she gave addresses, it
was like... an answer

to the David emails in a way.

Everything that frustrated us
about the original case,

everything that frustrated us
about going out to Hellier,

finding out David was a ghost.

That we didn't have an address
for his house, that we

had to just take a lot of that
stuff on faith...

Those answers were served up on
a silver platter in these emails.

"It wasn't until the Beltane holiday
that I realized it was to be

a holiday feast.

Big South Fork is where
they have held the

green man for ages.

SLUF is actually little troll-looking
things but powerful!

But now she's saying "sluf",
s-l-u-f, like on the coordinates.

[Dana] Sluf is on the coordinates?

-Yeah, on the old picture
of the coordinates.

[Dana gasps]

He was an old, he was an old

Vietnam War guy supposedly.

And sluf, the only real reference
to it, is

old slang from the Vietnam War
that meant "short little ugly fucker."

Which was like a racist term
for the Vietnamese.

"Short little ugly fucker."
Goblins.

[Tyler] Goblins.

And he wrote it on this... picture.
Whatever this thing is that he sent.

[Dana] Ok, this is getting very
fuckin weird.

And making me very
suspicious.

- "Little troll looking things but
powerful. I found the entire system."

I'm wigged out the whole time.
I'm driving.

The next day comes by,
I pack all my stuff.

And I start driving for, I think,
seven hours to North Carolina.

And the whole time,
I'm just...

I don't even know what's going
through my head,

I'm thinking about all this stuff.

[Dana] Sluf?!

That's on the coordinates.
That Tyler is going to right now!

Why would she drop that word
RIGHT now?!

He's literally on the way there.

Who the fuck is this person?!

What is happening?! I'm so fucking
paranoid and confused.

[car keys jingle]

[car door slams]

Alright, it is February 3rd.
1:35 P.M. 2018.

My name is Tyler Strand.

And I'm about to head to the
Terry Wriste coordinate points.

[Tyler] Again. my drive, my drive
for curiosity and

my drive to know what's going on
overrides my fear of this.

I still wanted to know. I still
wanted to know.

[footsteps]

[Dana] Is this email four?

It's 2:37 P.M.
She just emailed back.

"You fortunately have been already
on their radar.

Significantly enough.

I was told to contact you from
a man named Doug.

He said to make sure I had been
in contact so if I do get taken

it will further put them under scope
so they might be hesitant.

There's too much in this location
that they can't just pack up.

I've seen them.

I have been first hand with the
fact

that it's US, wolfpack, military,
Marines, occult,

aka UFOnauts. I'm sorry I've
nothing to show you.

Believe me, I've had everything
taken from me.

I even had paperwork from the
children they keep in the mines."

[Tyler] Ok. So oddly enough
I'm almost at the coordinate points.

I don't see anything yet.

But what's super weird,
I found this balloon here.

And I think it's the same balloon
I found that other piece to.

I finally reached, probably within
20 feet,

of the pinpoint.

And on the ground,

I see in the middle of the forest
this really old, shiny, balloon.

On the ground. And I pick it up.

It's a "Happy Birthday" balloon.
Just kinda laying there.

Just in the middle of the woods,
middle of nowhere.

Almost like they had a balloon
marking this spot.

[sighs]

Means it's right up there.

Right through there.

[footsteps]

So the actual spot, when I
reached it,

was one part confusion,

one part disappointment,

with maybe a little bit
of relief

that I finally found it.

And it was disappointment
because

there was nothing there.

The exact pinpoint spot, there was
nothing there. There was nothing

hidden that I could tell.

There was nothing in the lands'
geography that

made me think that there was some
kind of rock outcropping that

maybe had some
cave entrance,

The particular location of the exact
coordinates spot was

very, very, mundane.

[shuffling]

I'm standing at the spot.

There's nothing here.

Oh my god dude, you
know what?

I walked up to this big
gnarly tree.

And it looks fresh, like
somebody came in and just

fuckin decimated a tree,
like blew it apart.

This is so fucked up.

It doesn't look like there's
anything here that's

being covered by this debris.

I don't even know how this
tree was taken down,

like was it just cut and it blew
off that way with the bark?

What's strange is when I'm
standing on the spot,

I start hearing this low
rumble.

And at first I'm like "woah
is this the rumble in the ground?"

"Is this the rumble
in the ground?!"

Holy shit.

[distant rumbling noise]

[heavy breathing]

Helicopter.

[helicopter sounds]

Oh my god! Look at this.

Oh, shit they know
I'm here.

Fuck.

And then right over my
head, whoosh!

This helicopter flies above
the trees like straight

over me. And whether that
was just coincidence or not,

In this paranoid state I'm like
"somebody knows I'm here"

[laughs] I'm thinking,
"Somebody knows I'm here!"

I hurry up, that's actually the
first thing I say

when I call Greg back.

[oh phone] I think, somebody
knows I'm here.

This might be coincidence,
a fucking helicopter

just flew right over my head.

Right in line with where
I'm standing.

[laughing] I don't know man!

I'm wigging out, clearly
still paranoid, because

we're thinking like,

these people want us dead.
[chuckles]

Because at this point in time
you had emails that said

"they're aware of you. You've
been on their radar

for quite some time."

"You fortunately have already
been on their radar."

[Dana] Fortunately?
- "Significantly enough."

"I was told to contact you
from a man named Doug."

[Dana] Who the fuck
is Doug?

[laughs nervously]
Who the fuck is Doug?!

[out of breath] goddamnit we were so close

We were so fucking close!

I'm here, I'm fucking here.
There should be something

fucking here, and maybe
there was.

But now the marker is gone.

[frustrated groan]

And I think that was the
moment when I realized

it was about time to leave.

3:18 P.M.,
another email.

[Dana] What email is this,
six?

Nine altogether, back
and forth.

- Oh my god, ok.

"Doug's real name he asked
I didn't speak of.

He says you know him by
the warning."

[Dana gasps]
Oh my god!

He won't allow me to
speak anymore, as

emails are not safe.
Neither is telephone.

- By the warning?
- He says you know him

by the warning.

- Who...

- It's Terry.

- Who the fuck is this?

And that's when I made a
fatal mistake, I

was either, I either went to
text you guys a message,

or something.

I ended up swiping out
of my compass

that I was using to
navigate.

And the reception was so
poor in the woods,

it couldn't open up again.
It couldn't refresh.

And I was running out of battery
power at this point in time

on my phone.

And I just couldn't, for the life
of me, again it's weird

I had made notes earlier, but
it glitched out of my head and

I couldn't remember

what direction I had
walked in.

So I'm like, ok, I'm following
this compass and I

ended up walking onto
a trail.

And I start following it and I'm
like "I'm just going to

try to stick on a trail
for now.

Because I'm sure it leads out

into the area where those others
connected

if I'm going the right direction."

The sun is setting, everything is
getting that pale grey tone.

I start getting this ominous feeling
that the whole

purpose of the coordinate
points and me being there was

to have me not leave that forest.
Is how I felt.

I was honestly trying...
I was honestly priming

myself for the worst scenario.
Which would have been,

having one of my friends die.

For what?

For what.

I found what little bit of
energy was left and I'm like

"I'm going to push through.

And I'm going to reach the
top of this ridge.

And then I'll take a rest,

but I'm not going to stop."

I pushed through, my legs
were giving out,

I reach the top of this ridge,

Way off in the distance I seen
a small little road.

And on that road I see these
little dots moving.

And those little dots
were cars.

Cars and vehicles.

It was the first sign of civilization

since being in that forest and

I realized there was
a way out.

I walked on a directional
straight path,

I began seeing a trail cam,
some tree stands,

and those led me out onto
a gravel road

where there were houses.
Civilization.

And I realized at that point
that I succeeded, made it out.

But yeah, there was just...
there was nothing that seemed

there was nothing that seemed
important at the time.

I know he said that there was
a weird vibe to the place.

But it was one of those things
that it just, again, it

just made me think of Hellier
where maybe we

were there too late.

Maybe we didn't...
go after it in time.

Or maybe we were missing
something. I don't know.

I don't... I mean I just assumed
he was pointing us to

Brown Mountain.

That was just an assumption
on my part.

But

coordinates are so specific.

They're SO specific.

It just was so pointed.

I don't understand.

I don't understand it.

There was one other lead
I had to follow up on

and it was the mystery

of who lived inside the
house

that was near the coordinate
points.

I just wanted it to
be over,

but I still had that thirst
to know.

It was now or never.

I was confronted with a
fairly large white house,

two stories. Very open.

So I didn't know what
to expect

I didn't know who was
living here, I didn't know

if it was going to be Terry
Wriste, I didn't know

if it might be something like
Indrid Cold, I mean

there was so much mystery behind
who lived at this location.

I end up getting to this house.

And as I'm walking this door
all these dogs

are going off, barking.

And I hit the doorbell and
I wait, wait, wait...

And the first sign of movement
that I seen was an elderly woman

approach the door. Looked to
be in her late 60's or so.

And um... at that point,

when she opened the door,

to ask who I was, I um

I was very transparent.

I wanted to um

I realized I wouldn't get the
answers if I just didn't

outright tell her why I was there.

So I told her in brief,

"these coordinate points seem
to be near your property

in the woods. So I was just
curious if

there was anything out inside
of the forest, or if

there was anything interesting.
I kind of went down this

detailed list of asking her
about the forest,

and if there was ever anything
strange that she's ever seen

in the area, and

she was very, very matter
of fact.

Just "no, there's been nothing.
There's been nothing strange."

But there was one... apart
from their nature of

just them being very open
with me,

and me being very open with
them,

there was something that
caught my eye.

The element that we have
right here

is there was a very distinct
carving

on a tree that was right
next to us.

Just out from their porch,
probably 10, 20 feet away.

And I've been staring at this
carving the whole time

I'm talking to these
people.

And I go "that's a very
interesting carving on that tree"

I go "is that a Green Man?"

And then the woman turns to me
she goes "No. It's just an old man."

In my paranoia, I'm thinking
"are these people a part of this?

This case?"

Yeah, so I mean I wrapped things up,
I thanked them for their time,

I got in my car, and that's when I

drove back down that driveway
and I actually pulled in

I pulled in to the church for one
last call, to call you guys

to be like "Well! I followed up!
I know who's there." So,

I call you guys and in the middle
of telling you what just happened,

I get a knock on my window
[imitates knocking sound]

and it startles me, I'm like "doh!"
I look

and there's a man there
in a sweater vest

and he was actually
a sheriff.

So I roll the window down
and I'm like "oh, hi"

and then I'm like "stay on the
line" I'm like uh-oh [laughs]

I'm like "stay on the line!
There's a cop here."

He asks, he goes "hi there,
what are you doing here?"

I go "oh, I'm just... I'm just
driving from Pennsylvania.

I'm actually geocaching"

I'm like "I'm actually just about
to go back to Pennsylvania now."

He took my information, took
my details, I gave him my

my I.D. And he walks back to his
vehicle.

And he was there for quite
some time.

And the whole time he's there
I'm talking to Greg and Dana

like "what's going on?"

So he comes back

with my information and he
says "well, everything seems to

check out."

And I had made it very clear that
I was on my way out of

North Carolina, so he asks me,
he goes

"You are leaving North
Carolina, right?"

Very demanding. And I said
"oh yeah,

I'm just about to leave now,
about to head back

to Pennsylvania.

He goes "there's a lot of people
who come and talk to me."

He goes "I know everyone in
this tone. And we take note

if strange men appear in this
town and start asking questions."

As he walked away, and I started
my car,

I ended up pulling backward.
And as I pulled back

to start my drive I realized not only
was this undercover cop there,

but an entire squadron of
undercover cops were with him

that followed me out on my
drive out of North Carolina.

Until they pulled off.

♪ "Hell Departed"
By The Bent Brothers ♪

So I didn't tell anyone else
about the emails.

For... four months?

We just sat and dug in on them.

Strand did research, and
Dana did research, and

I did some but it honestly
just made me really nervous.

I kinda just wanted to put
it out of my head.

Uh, and everything we found was
just more and more concerning.

And like clockwork.

She disappeared.

Stopped answering emails.

Left it at this cliffhanger,
saying she had

information, she had proof
of all of these claims about

UFOnauts, and secret rituals
in caves, and sacrifices and

very

scarier versions of the stuff
in Hellier.

And then she... [click]

disappeared.

[Connor] The question posed
by Wriste is

"why did you stop when you
were so close?"

The coordinates aside,

can you think

of anything else from that trip
that it might have been referencing?

Anything?

I didn't think about that
until now.

But, what experiment did we
just try, like

I thought "you know, let's do the
alien abduction experiment."

Oh what. If that is... it.

- Did you stop the experiment?

Yeah.

Yeah, we had such a bad
experience with the experiment.

Yeah we never, we never tried
doing that again.

Not that variation.

Not about aliens. We've continued
to work with hypnosis.

But the idea of using that
to do an alien abduction,

like it's... it was genuinely one
of the scariest things

I've ever seen and probably
ever instigated.

Simply because of the implications
of it.

Because I never put two and two
together, so this is what's funny...

ahh, this is weird.

We went to Brown Mountain,
not with the intention

of finding an alien cave base.

That wasn't the fuckin point.

That was something that
was brought up

by Micah.

The whole, all of the other shit
with like the goblins stuff was like

not anything that seemed
related at all.

It just seemed like at the time,

Micah brought up "alien
cave base"

and we thought "oh, fuck! We've
got something like an alien

cave base."

That was just an aside.

It just kind of became the theme
of that as we worked on "Hellier."

What we were actually doing

was we were at Brown Mountain
to try to get abducted.

I don't fuckin know.

♪ "Hell Departed"
By The Bent Brothers ♪