All language subtitles for Hellier.S02 3

[Karl] You remember when
Strand went to North Carolina?

[Connor] Yeah.

-Greg got these the night before.
-Oh is this about this?

Oh gosh.

You know, I was not
expecting all this.

I was not expecting
any of this.

What?!

♪ Hellier intro theme music ♪

♪ [Joy to the World] ♪

[Windshield wipers and rain]

[Greg] I'm not really sure what it is
about the Mothman Prophecies

that draws me to it.
I'm a big fan of Keel.

I really like the way that Keel thought
about the phenomena.

It's more in line with the way that I'm
thinking about the phenomena these days.

That all this stuff is connected, and that
there's maybe some sort of a trickster

vibe with it, that there
might be some sort of...

...strangeness that slips
through once in a while.

And we see that as ghosts,
or monsters, or UFOs.

But it's all coming
from the same place.

I really like that.

I think my connection to the Mothman
Case in general is almost accidental.

It's one of the first things that
Dana and I wanted to go see.

It's the first place that we
tested our first car.

We drove out and we
road tested it.

We got our first crack in the
windshield driving out to the T.N.T. area.

And ever since then, it's felt like every
big change in our life, we go there,

and we go to Point Pleasant.

I've never seen the
Mothman as a sinister thing.

I've almost seen it more
as a signifier of change.

Not necessarily a
harbinger of doom.

Yeah.

I think it's just Mothman and
Point Pleasant in general has become...

...like a representationof change.

♪ Folksy guitar song plays ♪

Because we continued to find
connections to the Mothman Case,

because there were
connections to Keel,

and because we were in
the vicinity with Taunia,

it just made sense that
we go to Point Pleasant.

It seemed like Point Pleasant was
such an impactful place to be.

It was a hub...

of some of the craziest visitation
experiences that had ever happened.

It just made sense to go there.

[Karl] Indrid Cold was an unexpected
development in the Hellier case.

We're not sure if it was a
random one-off coincidence,

or if it was actually connected to this
phenomena as a whole, in general.

And we kind of understand
the fact that

the Mothman Case is kind
of tangential to the Hellier case.

It might be part of the same,
but we're not sure.

But it kept coming up.

It seemed significant
in season one.

They were dangling threads
that the larger phenomena

could have been connected
with as a whole,

and we wanted to make sure that
it was thoroughly followed up on.

So having the chance
to talk to Taunia,

having the chance to
explore Ashland

and follow up on
the Terry Wriste story,

Point Pleasant is the
heart of those two places.

It's right there in that
same area.

We wanted to go to the heart of that
phenomena from 1966 and 1967,

and try to communicate
with that, and figure out

if it was the same phenomena that
we'd been dealing with from the start.

I mean I think we, we literally
have a piece of equipment that's

designed to enhance
latent psychic abilities.

That's something that
I think we could use.

We could use the God helmet.

We could use it while doing
an Estes Method session.

It's literally never been done!

Ever.

The other thing you could do
too is you could have me

doing the God helmet and someone
else doing the Estes Method

at the same time.
-[Connor] hmm.

[Tyler] Yeah.

Well then why don't
you be the receiver,

- [Tyler] Yeah
- and you be the sender.

Well then you, what you have
to do is, you have to tell me,

what I need to be sending out.
[Tyler] Perfect!

- [Tyler] I love it.
- So we whisper into Dana's ears,

and we wait for your answers.

- Perfect.
- Or, whoever's.

And you're right, we need to
take something to enhance

our possible abilities, because
we're not going to be able to just

sit in a field and be like
"tell me the message",

so we need to give enhancers.

-Well the dome is built, in
the shape of something that,

like, the domes themselves are like--
[Connor] freaks me out a little bit.

So the, the session that I would do is

30 minutes.

- [Greg] I mean that's literally the
session, yeah.

It's just 30 minutes,
that's it, and it runs

- [Connor] oh that's how long your thing is?
-Yeah

It just runs for 30
minutes and then it's done.

- [Connor] ok.
- So we wouldn't be in there for,

you know, an hour or
anything like that,

so that at least limits the amount of time
that we're spending in, in the domes.

- [Dana] If that was a concern

[Greg] How do you feel about this?

I... I still feel uncomfortable about
what I experienced like a year ago,

you know? When they, when
they shot an image into my mind.

- [Dana] It's a tin can.

Just like the one that I saw.

[Connor] I just saw, like
a tin can,

just dropped into my mind.

Like, an old tin can

with no label.

Why is this here,
you know?

Like, that's a legitimate thing.
Not just for this, like, filming,

or like, but that like,
freaked me out.

And now we're actually
going out there, specifically asking them to send a message

specifically asking them
to send a message?

- [Greg] Well, we have sent
in the last 2, 3 days

we have sent emails to Terry Wriste,
we have sent emails to David,

we've sent to Greenfield. We, we
just spent an hour and a half with

Taunia. - [Connor] mm-hmm

You know, the best link we
could find to Indrid Cold,

and that whole crew.

And now we're in Point Pleasant!

And we're gonna put
a God Helmet on,

and we're gonna do
an Estes Method session.

What else can we do?

The Estes Method Session
we'd done in Hellier on the porch

was such a big deal.
Like, we'd gotten such...

...interesting information! And
even information that seems

more interesting the further
away we get from the event.

Things that are still relevant.

So much came out of that, and
it seemed like such a special session.

We had someone's attention.

We wanted to know how
we could do that again.

to maybe get an idea of
what the next step now was.

So... we thought... let's see
if we can amplify the response

that we got from the
original session

by using some new equipment
that's designed to do just that.

♪ THE RIVER AND THE WELL
by SONS OF THE WEST ♪

♪ ♪ ♪

[Dana] The domes are the place
in Point Pleasant where it all started,

So it feels like a
very good spot

to do an
experiment like that.

It's funny. I almost feel
as if, when you're in Point Pleasant,

it was as if Mothman
was visiting Point Pleasant,

but the T.N.T areas and the
domes feel as if it's his space.

Like that's where he was,
that was his.

He wasn't in town, he
had kind of hide out there.

So I still kind of feel
that energy there,

and I feel as if that's where it's
really concentrated for the most part,

and it's still consistently concentrated.

I don’t know if that has anything to do
with the shape of the domes themselves,

like, containing energy.

Or if it's something
about the land possibly?

But the domes feel
like the starting point,

and they always feel
like the ending point too,

so I always like to kind of
bring it back to the T.N.T area.

[sounds of rainfall]

[door creaking open]

[Connor] hoo![echoes in dome]

[Dana] tin can[echoes in dome]

[footsteps echo]

[incoherent mumbling and echoes]

[Karl] So disorienting.

[incoherent mumbling and echoes]

[Karl] So disorienting

[Karl] So disorienting[echoes]

[Connor] So, look at this.
It's my name!

[Dana laughs]
[Karl] Oh shit, dude.

- Connor B two oh two oh.

[sounds of leaves crunching]

[swoosh of chair being
pulled out of the vinyl bag]

[Dana] The God helmet is a
device, and it's a tool,

that we can use,
and it essentially helps us

trigger similar feelings that
people have when they have

religious experiences,
psychic experiences,

and paranormal experiences.

So the God Helmet is actually
working to get your brain to

respond the same way that
we will respond to in those

types of situations.

Sort of a cheat code in a way.

It forces the brain
to respond that way.

I'm gonna do this
as quick as I can.

[Greg] The Koren helmet is
a piece of equipment

that was developed by
Dr. Michael Persinger

and Stan Koren from
Laurentian University

in order to study
religious experiences.

this was something
they've been using

since at least the 80's.

The way that it works, is it
takes complex magnetic fields,

and it pumps them through
different hemispheres of the brain

in order to, to stimulate
a religious experience.

The media has dubbed this
thing the "God Helmet"

because it's given so many
people visions of God.

In a lot of places that are
considered "holy places",

they have higher, stranger
electromagnetic fields,

and they just figured, maybe
there's something about these,

these areas that's
causing these experiences.

[Greg] and so they create a
device that simulates those.

It's also been used in lots
of psychic experiments,

which is something they
didn't necessarily anticipate

when they were
building this thing.

They've used it with tons
of psychic experiments,

with remote viewing experiments
with people like Ingo Swann,

and they've found that when
they have the coils arranged

in a specific way, they can
actually enhance someone's

latent psychic abilities to the
point where their hits are,

crazy above where they
would normally be.

[Tyler] two, three
[Connor] what the....

[Tyler] *incoherent* the number three

[Dana] I've worn the God helmet
probably, at this point,

maybe ten times? So I'm pretty used,
like I'm pretty comfortable with it

and I kind of, I know what to expect.

Ten days after, the ten days that
follow wearing the God helmet,

I tend to be a bit spacy and kind
of needing to, be alone and meditate

and, and spend time in thought.
So, I wasn't particularly

excited about, [laughs], about spending
the next ten days being a space cadet.

But I also know that, you know,
I'm the most familiar with it

so I wouldn't put anybody
else through it if they've

never done it before.
It can be pretty overwhelming.

[Connor] So the helmet that
Greg and Dana brought out

to use is the, well actually the only
official non-laboratory model.

It was developed by a guy named
Todd Murphy with Dr. Persinger's help

and his old research files

[Dana] It's not an unpleasant
feeling, but it's definitely

nothing, it's not like my waking
state, where in my waking state,

I, I observe reality the way that I do.
When I do a God helmet session,

It's very different.
It feels very different.

You kind of feel very removed
from everything that's happening

around you, and a lot of what
you're experiencing is sort of happening,

it's strange, it, it sounds strange but
it's all kind of happening up here.

So it's definitely a physical--you
physically feel it and you kind of,

emotionally feel it.

[Greg] Alright, five.

Four.

Three.

Two.

One.

[Greg] Think about Coner and Conard.

Think about Indrid Cold's family.

Think about anyone that might
have been part of his mission.

That's who we want to
make contact with.

[Connor takes a deep breath]

There's a gate.

[Greg] Where is the gate?

Young

[Connor] Easy

He say "easy"?
[Dana whispers] I see a rose

You see a moose?

- [Dana] A rose.
- A rose.

- [Connor] Indrid
- Indrid?

- [Connor] don't
- What can you tell us about Indrid?

- [Connor] talk to me

- [Greg] This is a little new, we
haven't tried this before.

Who are we talking to?

We're trying to make contact
with Indrid Cold,

his family. We heard there
was an accident.

We're looking for information...
- [Connor] She called him, the car

- Where are you?
- I'm hearing beeps,

- [Connor, imitating beeps]
do do do do, do

- [Dana] I see headlights again

- It was like seven or
eight beeps in a row.

- Are you sending Morse code?

- [Connor imitating more beeps]
do do do do, do

- That sounds like Morse code.

- [Connor] No.
- [Greg] Oh it's not Morse code?

- [Greg] Where are you?

- [Connor imitating more beeps]
dodododo, do, dooka dooka

- [Connor] It's the strangest thing.

He's talking about a head, and ears
while she's talking about seeing a face.

[Tyler] What kind of face?

[Dana] Um...

[Connor] Pizza man.

[Greg] Pizza man?
[Dana chuckles]

[Connor] Three.

Clops.

[Greg] Hair, three, clops.

[Tyler] Hair, three, clops...

[Greg] Clops?

[Connor] Press.

Press three?

[Connor] "Hi" - female voice.

[Tyler] Did he say on
the deck?

Three of wands.

[Connor] They were playing Ouija.

They were playing Ouija

[Dana] Three of wands
is the card of journey.

I'm gonna set this card down,

cause it sounds
like it's important.

[Connor] Aim... hee haw.

[Greg] Hee haw?

[Dana] I feel like
somebody's trying to like,

I feel... plugged
in to something

[Greg] Hmm.

[Connor] Are you doing that?

[Dana] Yes

- [Greg] Dana...
- [Connor] George. Gore.

- I think that maybe you
should ask the questions.

[Dana] Can you hear me?

Speak

- [Dana] My name is Dana.
- Messaging you.

-Messaging you...

There was a point when it felt like,
we weren’t getting anywhere.

We weren't getting, we weren't
getting much of anything.

And so, I said "Dana, why don't
you ask the questions".

And the minute that we did that,
it was like a switch went off.

Everything became pointed. It was
like they were having a conversation.

[Connor] Calm down

[Dana takes a deep breath]

Here.

[Dana] Can you give
us a message?

- Can you speak to us in
the English language?

- Trying

- I know you're trying.

- The database
- It's a database, isn't it?

- The code

- Absorbing

- [Dana] information
- [Connor] Keep talking, yeah.

- [Dana] information

Connor said "database" at one
point, and that word was what

made me realize, what they
were trying to explain to me

was that there's a database
of human English words,

or potentially other languages
that they were trying to use

to communicate with us but the word
meant more than just the word.

And it was their way of sort of saying
the way that we communicate

with each other as people, there's
a lot in there that doesn't need

to be in there, and that each one of
these words were sort of this condensed,

concentrated thing, that was really
about communicating emotionally

rather than verbally, or
through language.

[Dana] Can I do better?

[Connor] That's it

[Dana] We're talking to each
other, right now.

[Dana] I will do better.

Cold.

[Dana] Wha.. What should I
call you? Loop?

There's groun...

ma...

Do it, orange.

[Dana] With, warmth?

[Dana] Warmth.

[Connor] Ten-four.

Connor and I began to
communicate that way,

using this database of words,
and each one of these words

meant a thousand times more
than just the word itself.

There were, there were emotions,
and colors, and all sorts of expressive,

like, symbols that were attached
to them.

- You're speaking in, colors.

- You seem, pale
[Connor chuckles]

- I like your language.

- Who's quoting this?

- Dana

- What?

- That's my name.

- Just a second, you
confused me.

- Are you on this planet?
Are you on Earth?

- [Connor] In the city.

- [Dana] You're in the city.

- [Connor] It's...

- [Connor] true... talking a-bout.

- [Dana] Where is Indrid?

- [Connor] Circle.

- Can we... go there?

- [Connor] This is a small time.

- [Connor] Low

- You liked families.

- [Connor] Talking is good...

- [Connor] for...

- Can you tell us where to go next?

Where do we go next?

- [Connor] Schoolyard.

Schoolyard

- [Connor] "Ottan" Falls listening

Ah- ahton falls?

- [Connor] Told ya.

- [Dana] Can you give us a city?

- [Connor] Out... out of, state

- [Greg] Out of state.
- [Dana] Out of state.

- [Connor] Horse

- [Connor] Who...

- [Greg] Horse

- [Connor] Talking, voice.

Talking about small....

- Mexican state?
- [Dana at same time] should we talk in...

- [Dana] Thank you.

A shiver, the

- [Dana] Thank you.
- Plant

[Connor takes a deep breath]

- [Dana] Pull him out, Greg.

- [Greg] Ask a really
direct question, Dana.

- Are you gone?

- Boots

Wait

- Will we talk with you again?

- [Connor] It's good

[Greg mouths "are you ready?"]

- [Dana] We'll try harder.

- [Greg] I'm gonna pull him out.
You're done Dana.

- [Dana] Yeah, I know.

- [Tyler] I hope we can talk
again soon.

- [Dana] Goodbye

- [Greg] thank you..
- [Connor] to get through

- [Connor] I feel like
everything's a lot more faint now

- [Dana] Yep, oh they're
going. They're gone.

- [Greg] He said "I feel like
everything's a lot more faint now"

- [Dana] They're all gone,
They're gone.

While I'm in the Estes Method,
suddenly something, happens,

that I wasn’t used to,
that I found unusual,

in that the words, and the signal,
and even the noise that I was hearing

through the headphones
just suddenly, ffft, like,

notched down in volume.

Which was crazy, cause there's
no way Connor would have known.

There's no way.

I was even off, cause I said like:

"oh yeah, it's like a, it's
like a thirty minute session"

It wasn’t. It lasted
even longer than that.

So, there's no way he would
have known it was over.

He just said, I'm not
getting anything anymore.

Almost as if the megaphone,
the amplifier, that signal that we

were boosting out
through the domes,

to these beings, to
this phenomena,

when her time
session ended, [ffft].

Once that connection was
severed, we were done.

- I, what do you think happened?
- I think you turned into an antenna,

is what I think.

- I just had a full on conversation
with an alien [laughs]

But here's the thing.
They don't talk like we do.

They talk, with emotion.

They translate
emotion into words.

And that's why it's hard to
understand what they're saying.

They use pictures. They use
pictures, they use colors.

I wasn't understanding it here,
I was understanding them,

the symbols emotionally and
then I would say something to you

and you'd be like
"you said ten-four"

like I figured, like [laughs].

Her session ended, and we
let her keep asking questions,

and what was so funny,
is like, two, three minutes after

the session ended you said something like
"I feel like everything just got murky"

- That's, it did!
- [Dana] I couldn't hear them anymore

- I sat there, the--

- [Dana] I couldn't feel them anymore,
that's a better way to put it.

-The whole antenna,
and the words, just

- [Dana] Drifted away?

-I was really stretching
to hear anything, because,

- [Greg] After her thing...
- [Connor] That's awesome

- [Connor] I didn’t even think about
that correlation at all...

- [Dana] I felt like, I felt like,
it just, my feelings stopped.

♪ ♪ ♪

[Tyler] We sat and watched, a
conversation unfold....

between, between two,
two people [laughs]

A person and something else.

it was really striking, but I think...
I think the domes themselves added

to this strange, this strange ambiance
where everything just seemed, ethereal

In a lot of ways it felt like we were,
I felt like we were in someplace else.

[Wind blowing]

[Karl] As we're compiling this research
and this information over the last year,

there's a trend I started to notice,
of bridges and borders.

I know in the east coast,
that there's a lot of state boundaries

that are defined by rivers.
and of course back in the old days,

at the time, rivers of course
are a big mode of transportation.

So if you're gonna have a city
center, it's gonna be on a river

so that you can trade
and travel very easily.

But there's this strange trend,
especially these days,

when, there's cities and
towns all over the place now

throughout the state. They
don't hang out only along

these river borders anymore.

And we keep seeing this consistently.
Bridges and borders.

Point Pleasant, West Virginia
is a border town with a bridge.

Stillwater, Minnesota.
Stillwater bridge, it's a border town

along a river.

Ashland.

It's a border town, with
a river and a bridge.

There's these consistencies
that keep popping up.

And, even Tyler Strand points out
that there's some symbolism there,

that a bridge is going
from one place to another.

It's a transition type of place.

It's a place where
you're entering something new,

and he's pointed out a
number of times as well that,

you get enough people,
traveling, over this one

bottleneck spot, thinking about
transitioning, there’s the signs,

welcome to this next state.

It's transition, it's transition,
this thought is continuously being

projected onto this space.

Maybe it becomes
a space of transition

Maybe it becomes
almost a doorway.

Or a window,

to another place.

[Dana] That we are about
to move into the next chapter.

That's what it feels like.

I really, truly feel as if this week
has been the, the final, kind of,

two pages of the last chapter.

And now we're about to
move into the next one.

[Karl] If there are
two main locations,

that are connected
with Terry Wriste,

one of those was the location
where he met Indrid Cold,

Ashland, Kentucky.

The other, were the coordinates
that he sent to Greg and Dana.

Greg and Dana always
associated those coordinates

with where they
were on Brown Mountain,

that cave entrance.

But when we plugged
the coordinates in,

they were actually at
a spot a couple miles away.

Seemingly, in the middle of nowhere.

[Car dings. Keys jingle.]

[Karl] Tyler Strand, when he had a couple
of days off between his school semesters,

he decided to go to
those coordinates himself

and see what was there.

to finally go to the exact
spot where those coordinates were.

The night before he
left on that journey,

Greg got a new email,

that changed the framing
of this entire case.

I mean I've been waiting.
I've been waiting for this,

since we started putting the articles up

and nothing like this has come in.

♪ OPERA IN THE WHALE
by BEFORE THE BULB ♪