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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:36,022 --> 00:00:38,587 Hi, um, I'm here to see Chuck Palmer. 2 00:00:38,593 --> 00:00:40,382 - Hannah Horvath. - 4B. 3 00:00:40,388 --> 00:00:41,588 Thanks. 4 00:00:47,797 --> 00:00:49,716 Yeah, mm-hmm. 5 00:01:26,712 --> 00:01:28,793 - Hi. Hannah, - Hi, I'm Hannah... 6 00:01:28,799 --> 00:01:32,132 Hannah. Yeah, I know. It's, uh, nice to meet you. 7 00:01:33,002 --> 00:01:34,607 - Shoes-off household, or... - Ah, yes. 8 00:01:34,613 --> 00:01:37,878 - Sorry, I'm... I'm that asshole now. - Oh, yeah. 9 00:01:37,884 --> 00:01:39,870 I mean, yeah, I ha... I have my, uh, 10 00:01:39,876 --> 00:01:42,087 special slippers, but, uh, these are just for me. 11 00:01:42,093 --> 00:01:46,165 Um, if you could put them in the same line as the others, that'd be great. 12 00:01:46,171 --> 00:01:47,454 - Of course, yeah. - Yeah. 13 00:01:48,687 --> 00:01:50,625 Um... I'm sorry. If they could... 14 00:01:50,631 --> 00:01:53,316 if they could not touch the suede boots. It's just a whole thing. 15 00:01:53,322 --> 00:01:54,530 Thank you. 16 00:01:58,328 --> 00:02:02,288 Sync & Corrections by PetaG www.addic7ed.com 17 00:02:02,294 --> 00:02:05,286 _ 18 00:02:05,292 --> 00:02:08,290 _ 19 00:02:08,296 --> 00:02:11,876 _ 20 00:02:11,882 --> 00:02:15,296 _ 21 00:02:15,302 --> 00:02:18,466 _ 22 00:02:18,472 --> 00:02:21,849 _ 23 00:02:24,300 --> 00:02:27,437 Are you sure I can't take your bag? 24 00:02:27,481 --> 00:02:29,091 No, I'm good, thanks. 25 00:02:29,097 --> 00:02:30,984 How about your red tote bag? 26 00:02:30,990 --> 00:02:33,373 I'll hold on to this, too. I'm not planning on staying so long. 27 00:02:33,378 --> 00:02:35,964 Sure, fine. Yeah. Here, sit. 28 00:02:43,472 --> 00:02:45,385 It was, um... 29 00:02:45,972 --> 00:02:47,499 it's good of you to show. 30 00:02:47,505 --> 00:02:50,059 Well, I wasn't gonna not show. I was just surprised. 31 00:02:50,065 --> 00:02:51,942 Surprised, what, that I wanted to talk? 32 00:02:51,948 --> 00:02:54,326 Yeah. I just... surprised that you... 33 00:02:54,505 --> 00:02:56,023 found the article that I wrote. 34 00:02:56,029 --> 00:02:58,305 I mean, you must have an ass-deep Google alert on yourself. 35 00:02:58,310 --> 00:03:00,201 This was, like, a niche feminist website. 36 00:03:00,207 --> 00:03:01,773 It's not the front page of "The Times." 37 00:03:01,779 --> 00:03:03,919 Well, let's just say I'm hypervigilant these days. 38 00:03:03,925 --> 00:03:07,356 Look, I'm not trying to get an apology out of you. 39 00:03:07,362 --> 00:03:08,739 - Okay, good. - Okay, good. 40 00:03:08,745 --> 00:03:11,722 I'm just looking to give my side of the story. 41 00:03:11,728 --> 00:03:14,075 Okay, but first, there's something that I'd like to say. 42 00:03:14,081 --> 00:03:17,372 Oh, sure. Uh, go right ahead, Hannah. 43 00:03:20,535 --> 00:03:23,170 I'm a writer, you know? And I may not be a... 44 00:03:23,176 --> 00:03:24,943 a rich writer or a famous writer 45 00:03:24,949 --> 00:03:27,738 or a writer with a picture of myself hanging out with Toni Morrison. 46 00:03:27,744 --> 00:03:28,950 Good catch. 47 00:03:28,956 --> 00:03:30,574 Well, you put it right in my face, so... 48 00:03:30,580 --> 00:03:31,880 Yeah, yeah, I did. 49 00:03:31,886 --> 00:03:33,443 But I am a writer, and as such, 50 00:03:33,449 --> 00:03:35,372 I think I'm obligated to use my voice 51 00:03:35,378 --> 00:03:39,586 to talk about things that are meaningful to me. And... 52 00:03:39,592 --> 00:03:43,383 I read something about you that troubled me, that troubled me greatly. 53 00:03:43,389 --> 00:03:46,480 Namely that you were using your power and your influence to 54 00:03:46,486 --> 00:03:51,313 involve yourself sexually with college students on your book tour. And... 55 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:53,813 whether all those sexual encounters were consensual or not... 56 00:03:53,819 --> 00:03:57,413 Okay, hold up, because that's where this all gets pretty fucking messy, 57 00:03:57,419 --> 00:04:00,108 when words like "consensual" are thrown around. 58 00:04:00,174 --> 00:04:01,869 That's why I'm not sleeping. 59 00:04:01,875 --> 00:04:04,760 That... that is definitely why I've lost 20 pounds. 60 00:04:04,861 --> 00:04:07,180 Well, that sounds lucky. I would love that. 61 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:09,830 Look, Hannah, you're clearly very bright. 62 00:04:09,836 --> 00:04:11,948 I could tell that from the first sentence you wrote. 63 00:04:11,954 --> 00:04:14,804 Uh, thank you. You printed out a blog? 64 00:04:14,810 --> 00:04:16,718 No. I have assistants who can do that for me. 65 00:04:16,724 --> 00:04:20,499 "If one more male writer I love reveals himself to be a heinous sleaze bag, 66 00:04:20,505 --> 00:04:22,074 "I'm gonna do a bunch of murders, 67 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,987 "create a new Isle of Lesbos, and never look back." 68 00:04:24,993 --> 00:04:27,022 You're funny. That's a funny sentence. 69 00:04:27,221 --> 00:04:28,424 Thank you. 70 00:04:28,430 --> 00:04:32,799 But you should be using your funny to tackle subjects that matter. 71 00:04:33,308 --> 00:04:36,818 Me, who I may or may not have got a blow job from consensually, 72 00:04:36,824 --> 00:04:40,284 in a college town, does not fucking matter. 73 00:04:40,290 --> 00:04:41,902 But the thing is is that it does, 74 00:04:41,908 --> 00:04:43,489 because if one of those girls is saying she didn't 75 00:04:43,494 --> 00:04:45,053 - want to give the blow job... - By the way, 76 00:04:45,058 --> 00:04:48,347 how exactly does one give a non-consensual blow job? 77 00:04:48,627 --> 00:04:51,606 A non-consensual blow job? It would be very chokey. 78 00:04:51,612 --> 00:04:52,812 It... 79 00:04:52,818 --> 00:04:55,614 It would involve somebody sort of holding someone else's... 80 00:04:55,855 --> 00:04:57,901 head down and kind of, you know, 81 00:04:57,907 --> 00:05:00,618 maybe holding them by the hair, by the pigtails. 82 00:05:01,041 --> 00:05:02,760 You've heard that old joke... 83 00:05:02,876 --> 00:05:05,151 What do you call a blow job with handlebar? 84 00:05:05,857 --> 00:05:07,057 Just... 85 00:05:07,361 --> 00:05:10,775 I'm sorry, I have to get this. It's, uh... it's family stuff. 86 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,372 - Yeah, of course. - Hi, Mayaan. 87 00:05:14,955 --> 00:05:17,717 No, if Miranda wants to come over for the weekend, it's fine, yeah. 88 00:05:17,723 --> 00:05:18,923 Is she feeling better? 89 00:05:21,169 --> 00:05:23,995 No... no, I don't have her gymnastics bag. 90 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,012 Ask Graciela, 'cause, uh, sometimes it's in her car. 91 00:05:27,605 --> 00:05:30,008 Well, I'm not gonna let her sit here 92 00:05:30,014 --> 00:05:34,279 and eat fucking Flamin' Hot Cheetos and play Candy Crush or whatever. 93 00:05:34,285 --> 00:05:37,899 She's gonna need to walk, you know, go to a park, whatever. She's depressed. 94 00:05:39,066 --> 00:05:40,886 Yes, I mean clinically. 95 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:44,520 I'm... I'm not calling you a bad mother. 96 00:05:44,989 --> 00:05:47,044 Mayaan, I'm not... I'm not. 97 00:05:48,483 --> 00:05:49,717 You know what? Would... would 98 00:05:49,723 --> 00:05:52,406 this be a good time to talk about summer, uh, custody? 99 00:05:52,412 --> 00:05:55,598 Because I would love to bring her to the Cape, um, for three weeks. 100 00:05:55,604 --> 00:05:58,374 Maybe after the European residency? But, you know, 101 00:05:58,787 --> 00:06:01,158 I also don't wanna feel like you're not getting your time. 102 00:06:02,025 --> 00:06:03,721 Yeah, go grab your calendar. 103 00:06:33,624 --> 00:06:39,152 No, I asked you, Mayaan. I 100% asked you, because I always goddamn ask you. 104 00:06:39,725 --> 00:06:42,639 Mayaan, I'm not gonna tell you when you can see our daughter. 105 00:06:42,645 --> 00:06:44,827 I'm gonna tell you when I want to see our daughter, and then we'll take it 106 00:06:44,832 --> 00:06:47,327 from there. And, being the mother, no doubt you'll win. 107 00:06:47,333 --> 00:06:49,021 Rest assured you'll win. 108 00:06:49,381 --> 00:06:52,904 No, no, it's not a swipe at you... it's not. 109 00:06:54,373 --> 00:06:57,396 I... I know. I know. I'm sorry. 110 00:06:57,402 --> 00:06:58,694 I'm sorry, honey. 111 00:06:58,904 --> 00:07:00,905 Yes, of course. I'll see her at 3:00. 112 00:07:01,691 --> 00:07:03,241 Yeah, okay. 113 00:07:03,705 --> 00:07:04,905 Bye. 114 00:07:08,345 --> 00:07:10,346 So, I'm assuming that was Toni Morrison. 115 00:07:11,553 --> 00:07:13,740 That's funny. No, it's my ex. 116 00:07:14,530 --> 00:07:16,240 Very tortured woman. 117 00:07:17,432 --> 00:07:19,882 But our daughter is a good girl, 118 00:07:19,888 --> 00:07:22,375 so, you know, I have to believe that this... 119 00:07:22,381 --> 00:07:25,786 life, this mother, is teaching her something, 120 00:07:25,792 --> 00:07:28,288 you know, building her up strong, because, uh, 121 00:07:29,122 --> 00:07:32,452 she's had some depression stuff this year and it got kind of serious, 122 00:07:32,458 --> 00:07:34,131 but, um... she's good. 123 00:07:36,106 --> 00:07:39,981 - Listen, I don't know you... - No, Hannah, you do not. 124 00:07:39,987 --> 00:07:42,122 But your work means a lot to me. 125 00:07:42,209 --> 00:07:44,029 It has for a long time. 126 00:07:44,035 --> 00:07:47,357 It's made me laugh and it's comforted me. And my copy of "Shannon's Rock" 127 00:07:47,363 --> 00:07:50,891 is so dog-eared and underlined, you can barely read the words anymore. 128 00:07:50,897 --> 00:07:52,686 So when I saw Denise's Tumblr, I was... 129 00:07:52,692 --> 00:07:55,388 Isn't that the crazy part about all of this? 130 00:07:55,394 --> 00:07:57,092 Like, about... about being alive right now, 131 00:07:57,097 --> 00:08:00,852 that so much of your life, your world can be destroyed 132 00:08:00,858 --> 00:08:03,673 by something called "Tumblr" without an E? 133 00:08:04,683 --> 00:08:07,185 I mean, "destroyed" seems like a little bit of an overstatement. 134 00:08:07,190 --> 00:08:08,795 You got a great review in "The Times" four days 135 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,488 - ago... that was a rave. - Oh. 136 00:08:10,494 --> 00:08:13,003 - You got this apartment. Your... - Yeah, I'm fine. 137 00:08:13,009 --> 00:08:14,784 - Yeah, I would say so. - Thing is I'm not, 138 00:08:14,790 --> 00:08:17,705 because I've been taking pills to fall asleep. And guess what. 139 00:08:17,711 --> 00:08:19,003 They don't fucking work. 140 00:08:19,009 --> 00:08:21,199 I started therapy and for the first time in 10 years, 141 00:08:21,204 --> 00:08:24,056 thought I was done with all that shit. Tried everything. 142 00:08:24,062 --> 00:08:26,237 Different types of meditation. I've... 143 00:08:26,243 --> 00:08:28,752 I tried to learn Spanish, rowing. 144 00:08:28,758 --> 00:08:31,812 You know, I went on a juice cleanse, did a silent retreat. 145 00:08:31,818 --> 00:08:35,467 I am now having nightmares that my daughter's friends will Google 146 00:08:35,473 --> 00:08:39,026 and find out about whatever the fuck this thing is 147 00:08:39,032 --> 00:08:40,706 and that will hurt her. 148 00:08:41,957 --> 00:08:43,559 Understand? It will hurt my daughter. 149 00:08:43,565 --> 00:08:46,660 So what I wonder is why am I being punished? 150 00:08:46,762 --> 00:08:48,449 I wasn't trying to punish you. 151 00:08:48,455 --> 00:08:50,965 I just think it's important to listen to the voices of women 152 00:08:50,971 --> 00:08:53,299 who have historically been pushed to the side 153 00:08:53,305 --> 00:08:54,775 - and silenced and... - Do you know 154 00:08:54,781 --> 00:08:56,789 the woman who wrote the article? 155 00:08:57,779 --> 00:08:59,865 Do you know any of the women who came forward? 156 00:09:01,181 --> 00:09:03,100 Are you some kind of activist? 157 00:09:03,395 --> 00:09:04,864 No. I don't even recycle. 158 00:09:04,870 --> 00:09:06,637 Then why would a smart woman like you 159 00:09:06,643 --> 00:09:08,631 write a very long and considered piece of writing 160 00:09:08,637 --> 00:09:10,239 on what is ultimately hearsay? 161 00:09:10,245 --> 00:09:13,358 Because I don't consider the accounts of four different women hearsay. 162 00:09:13,364 --> 00:09:15,269 Really? Remember what happened in Salem. 163 00:09:15,275 --> 00:09:17,074 Yeah, these four women are the witches. 164 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,767 - I'm the witch. - I don't see it that way. 165 00:09:19,773 --> 00:09:21,465 These women don't have the reach that you have. 166 00:09:21,470 --> 00:09:23,760 They can't get "The New York Times" to hand them over the op-ed page. 167 00:09:23,765 --> 00:09:26,477 That's why the Internet is so cool, because it takes all the voices 168 00:09:26,483 --> 00:09:28,358 - that have been marginalized... - Oh, my God! 169 00:09:28,364 --> 00:09:31,360 Is that why the Internet is so cool? 170 00:09:31,366 --> 00:09:33,663 Because some might argue it's a monster we've created 171 00:09:33,669 --> 00:09:35,148 that will ultimately kill us. 172 00:09:35,154 --> 00:09:37,572 Yeah, well, the people who argue that are probably a generation 173 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:38,859 above me, but... 174 00:09:38,865 --> 00:09:40,754 Fuck, I need a cup of coffee. 175 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:53,503 I'm not perfect, but I'm not saying I'm perfect. 176 00:09:53,509 --> 00:09:56,927 I'm a horny motherfucker with the impulse control of a toddler. 177 00:09:56,933 --> 00:09:59,075 - Oh, that must be hard. - Listen, I get it. 178 00:09:59,081 --> 00:10:00,924 There are kids dying in Africa. Blah, blah, blah, okay? 179 00:10:00,929 --> 00:10:02,668 But this is fucking hard for me. 180 00:10:02,674 --> 00:10:04,307 I fucked around on my wife. 181 00:10:04,313 --> 00:10:06,315 I've told women I've loved them and didn't even call them back. 182 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,928 I even went to a couple of hookers, and one of them had a dick. 183 00:10:08,934 --> 00:10:10,500 I don't have any secrets. 184 00:10:10,506 --> 00:10:11,822 None of that's illegal. 185 00:10:11,828 --> 00:10:14,202 I mean, except the prostitutes. That's technically a felony. 186 00:10:14,208 --> 00:10:18,929 I have never fucking forced anyone to blow me. 187 00:10:18,935 --> 00:10:20,628 That is not my style. 188 00:10:20,847 --> 00:10:23,905 These Tumblr girls who come up to me at my lectures 189 00:10:23,910 --> 00:10:26,027 and... I am sorry... they hurl themselves at me 190 00:10:26,033 --> 00:10:28,648 like I'm some fire and brimstone preacher 191 00:10:28,654 --> 00:10:31,857 who's gonna cure their mom's bum leg with the touch of God. 192 00:10:32,279 --> 00:10:34,464 I invite them back to my hotel. 193 00:10:34,470 --> 00:10:37,271 We may drink teeny, tiny bottles of booze 194 00:10:37,277 --> 00:10:39,837 if a place is nice enough to have a fucking minibar. 195 00:10:39,843 --> 00:10:43,541 A couple of them might stay, and then, voilĂ ... 196 00:10:43,547 --> 00:10:46,653 they have something to write about. Because what do writers need? 197 00:10:46,659 --> 00:10:48,148 - Money. - Very funny. 198 00:10:48,154 --> 00:10:49,978 Stories. They need stories. 199 00:10:49,984 --> 00:10:51,197 So one of them starts talking. 200 00:10:51,203 --> 00:10:54,298 "I met Chuck Palmer. He's a sad man with a receding hairline. 201 00:10:54,304 --> 00:10:56,376 "He made sad noises while I sucked him off." 202 00:10:56,382 --> 00:10:58,703 And all of a sudden, she has something to write about. 203 00:10:59,283 --> 00:11:01,816 She has a story... she has an experience, okay? 204 00:11:01,822 --> 00:11:03,528 She has something that makes her different 205 00:11:03,533 --> 00:11:05,305 from every other creative writing undergrad 206 00:11:05,311 --> 00:11:07,255 that was bussed in from Virginia. 207 00:11:07,347 --> 00:11:09,314 Do you understand what I'm saying about experience... 208 00:11:09,319 --> 00:11:11,521 the way people crave it and the way people use it? 209 00:11:11,527 --> 00:11:14,336 - Yeah, I think I do, but... - Denise, the one who started all this, 210 00:11:14,342 --> 00:11:17,137 she practically ripped at my Dockers. 211 00:11:17,143 --> 00:11:20,131 Kept asking if she could come visit me in New York. 212 00:11:20,137 --> 00:11:21,742 I probably nodded. 213 00:11:21,748 --> 00:11:24,809 Probably indicated yes. I didn't follow up. 214 00:11:25,410 --> 00:11:27,017 That made her angry. 215 00:11:27,121 --> 00:11:29,694 So you expect me to believe that every one of these girls 216 00:11:29,700 --> 00:11:33,376 came forward with a story just because they had hurt feelings? 217 00:11:33,438 --> 00:11:35,964 - Clearly haven't met my ex. - Feel like I have. 218 00:11:35,970 --> 00:11:37,805 That conversation was very long, and 219 00:11:37,811 --> 00:11:39,846 pretty weird thing to do in front of a stranger. 220 00:11:39,852 --> 00:11:42,350 By the way, if you're so sure you're innocent, 221 00:11:42,356 --> 00:11:45,071 if you know that you're this, like, perfect specimen, 222 00:11:45,077 --> 00:11:46,957 then why can't you just let it go? 223 00:11:46,963 --> 00:11:49,571 Did you just say why can't I just let it go? 224 00:11:49,577 --> 00:11:50,777 Yeah. 225 00:11:50,783 --> 00:11:54,481 That's really great advice. Uh, are you Buddhist? 226 00:11:54,958 --> 00:11:57,347 Why do you need me to know all this? 227 00:11:57,353 --> 00:12:00,204 Plenty of people wrote about Denise's story. 228 00:12:00,210 --> 00:12:02,296 Did you call all of them to come to your apartment? 229 00:12:02,302 --> 00:12:03,822 Which, by the way, is lovely. 230 00:12:03,828 --> 00:12:06,345 I had no idea novelists could make this much money. 231 00:12:06,351 --> 00:12:09,108 No, I didn't call them. I didn't call any of them. I only called you. 232 00:12:10,036 --> 00:12:11,445 Why me? 233 00:12:14,038 --> 00:12:15,475 Because you're smart. 234 00:12:15,866 --> 00:12:17,718 You write well. You write sharply. 235 00:12:17,724 --> 00:12:20,466 Like you're actually paying attention. You even made me 236 00:12:20,472 --> 00:12:23,356 believe what you were saying, and I'm the one you're fuckin' lyin' about. 237 00:12:24,262 --> 00:12:27,082 So, are you really gonna use all this skill 238 00:12:27,088 --> 00:12:29,660 to write for some shitty website, being paid a meaningless 239 00:12:29,666 --> 00:12:32,856 fee to slam some guy you've never met but claim to respect? 240 00:12:33,168 --> 00:12:35,992 If not me, who? And if not now, when? 241 00:12:35,998 --> 00:12:40,373 Oh, my God. This isn't the Civil Rights Movement, Hannah. It's me. 242 00:12:40,379 --> 00:12:44,558 It's just me getting head in some sterile hotel room in Rhode Island. 243 00:12:44,564 --> 00:12:47,677 So, the larger significance is just lost on you? You just don't even... 244 00:12:47,683 --> 00:12:50,100 What larger significance? 245 00:12:50,106 --> 00:12:53,199 - The power imbalance. - Oh, my God. 246 00:12:53,205 --> 00:12:55,159 You know what? I haven't been offered a beverage, 247 00:12:55,165 --> 00:12:57,074 so I think I'm gonna get myself one. 248 00:12:58,878 --> 00:13:01,642 The part where she looks like a Victoria's Secret model 249 00:13:01,648 --> 00:13:03,406 and I didn't lose my virginity 250 00:13:03,412 --> 00:13:07,232 until I was 25 and I was on Accutane... that part's not lost on me. 251 00:13:08,054 --> 00:13:11,319 Uh, no. I'm talking about the part where you're a very fucking famous writer 252 00:13:11,325 --> 00:13:13,965 and she's working really hard to have just a little bit 253 00:13:13,971 --> 00:13:15,554 of what you get every day. 254 00:13:17,551 --> 00:13:20,512 So, you invite her back to your hotel room. What's she supposed to say? No? 255 00:13:20,518 --> 00:13:22,940 - Uh... - She admires you. 256 00:13:23,033 --> 00:13:25,342 Then you unbuckle your pants. 257 00:13:25,635 --> 00:13:27,643 What's she gonna do next? 258 00:13:27,721 --> 00:13:31,032 You got it wrong. It's not so she has a story. 259 00:13:31,113 --> 00:13:33,744 It's so she feels like she exists. 260 00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:39,347 And, by the way, people don't talk about this shit for fun. 261 00:13:39,353 --> 00:13:40,970 It ruins their lives. You know that. 262 00:13:40,976 --> 00:13:43,863 - Do you hear yourself right now? - Mm-hmm. 263 00:13:43,869 --> 00:13:48,795 I am a grown man inviting a grown woman to my hotel room. 264 00:13:48,801 --> 00:13:52,325 Did I put a gun to her head? Did I offer her a job? 265 00:13:52,331 --> 00:13:55,163 I may be stupid, but I'm not evil, sister. 266 00:13:55,169 --> 00:13:58,637 An invitation isn't inherently wrong or dangerous. 267 00:13:58,643 --> 00:14:03,319 Sexuality's very muddy. That's a real Grey area. Or at least we say it's a 268 00:14:03,325 --> 00:14:07,094 - Grey area so we can get... - I am so sick of Grey areas. 269 00:14:12,224 --> 00:14:16,347 When I was in fifth grade, I had this English teacher, Mr. Lasky. 270 00:14:16,645 --> 00:14:20,047 He liked me. He was impressed with me. I did, like, special creative writing. 271 00:14:20,053 --> 00:14:22,028 I wrote, like, a little novel or whatever. 272 00:14:22,034 --> 00:14:24,585 Sometimes when he was talking to the class, he'd stand behind me 273 00:14:24,591 --> 00:14:26,222 and he'd just, like, rub my neck. 274 00:14:26,228 --> 00:14:29,498 Sometimes he'd, like, rub my head, rustle my hair. 275 00:14:30,073 --> 00:14:31,476 And I didn't mind. 276 00:14:31,858 --> 00:14:34,569 It made me feel special. It made me feel like someone saw me 277 00:14:34,575 --> 00:14:38,585 and they knew that I was gonna grow up and be really, really particular. 278 00:14:38,591 --> 00:14:41,845 It also made kids hate me and put lasagna in my fucking backpack, 279 00:14:41,851 --> 00:14:43,201 but that's a different story. 280 00:14:43,404 --> 00:14:45,224 Anyway, last year, I'm at this, like, 281 00:14:45,230 --> 00:14:47,084 whatever, warehouse party in Bushwick, 282 00:14:47,090 --> 00:14:49,251 and this dude comes up to me and he's like, "Horvath, 283 00:14:49,257 --> 00:14:51,858 "we went to middle school together, East Lansing." And I'm like, 284 00:14:51,864 --> 00:14:54,545 "Oh, my God, remember how crazy Mr. Lasky's class was? 285 00:14:54,551 --> 00:14:57,449 "He was basically trying to molest me." And you know what this kid said? 286 00:14:58,153 --> 00:15:00,550 He looks at me in the middle of this fuckin' party 287 00:15:00,556 --> 00:15:02,151 like he's a judge and he goes, 288 00:15:02,157 --> 00:15:06,500 "That's a very serious accusation, Hannah." And he walked away. 289 00:15:07,187 --> 00:15:10,093 And there I am, and I'm just 11 again, 290 00:15:10,099 --> 00:15:13,288 and I'm just getting my fuckin' neck rubbed. 291 00:15:13,294 --> 00:15:16,492 Because that stuff never goes away. 292 00:15:19,186 --> 00:15:21,176 Yeah, I'm sorry that happened to you. 293 00:15:22,208 --> 00:15:25,290 I mean, it gives me a greater perspective on what triggered you, 294 00:15:25,295 --> 00:15:28,588 to use the parlance of our times, about my story. 295 00:15:28,594 --> 00:15:30,562 I didn't tell you so you'd feel sorry for me. 296 00:15:30,568 --> 00:15:33,797 No, I'm just saying I'm sorry because it's an awful story. 297 00:15:33,803 --> 00:15:35,883 Yeah, but look at me. I'm smart. 298 00:15:36,086 --> 00:15:37,570 And amazing. 299 00:15:39,180 --> 00:15:40,874 And now I have a story. 300 00:15:43,067 --> 00:15:44,480 Can I read something to you? 301 00:15:52,518 --> 00:15:54,093 "Jessica had the straining body 302 00:15:54,099 --> 00:15:56,432 "of someone who had very recently worked far too hard 303 00:15:56,438 --> 00:15:58,409 "to lose a negligible amount of weight. 304 00:15:58,415 --> 00:16:00,548 "She was thin, had always been thin enough to get by 305 00:16:00,554 --> 00:16:02,760 "with low breasts and a tan clavicle. 306 00:16:02,928 --> 00:16:05,915 "But it was as if her form wasn't yet used to its socially imbued power. 307 00:16:05,921 --> 00:16:09,904 "She moved slowly, awkwardly, as if life was a china shop, and she a bull. 308 00:16:10,099 --> 00:16:12,307 "She treated my hotel room like a museum, 309 00:16:12,313 --> 00:16:14,709 "the minibar like fine sculpture from the Ming dynasty, 310 00:16:14,715 --> 00:16:17,294 "delicately pouring herself some vodka over ice. 311 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:19,528 "I asked her where she was from. She said, 'Around, ' 312 00:16:19,534 --> 00:16:22,021 "as if someone had told her that's what made women irresistible... 313 00:16:22,026 --> 00:16:25,201 "being from nowhere and standing for nothing." 314 00:16:25,419 --> 00:16:26,729 Why don't you read? 315 00:16:27,467 --> 00:16:30,994 - I'm okay listening... - No, uh, read it aloud to me. 316 00:16:34,927 --> 00:16:37,146 "I tried to ask her questions 317 00:16:37,537 --> 00:16:40,818 "about what she was reading, watching, thinking, 318 00:16:40,824 --> 00:16:43,653 "about her home town and her poetry workshop, 319 00:16:43,768 --> 00:16:45,436 "about her mother and her roommate 320 00:16:45,449 --> 00:16:48,944 "and the silvery scar snaking quietly across her forearm, 321 00:16:48,950 --> 00:16:53,244 "but she was silent, reticent, almost angry when I pushed too hard. 322 00:16:53,250 --> 00:16:55,954 "'Sit on the bed,' she told me when she finally spoke. 323 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,824 "'Sit on the bed and stop asking me anything.' 324 00:16:58,830 --> 00:17:02,650 "And so I did as I was told and she reached for my old belt, 325 00:17:02,656 --> 00:17:05,158 "frayed from being the only one in rotation. 326 00:17:05,164 --> 00:17:07,963 "And as she unbuckled it, I thought sadly of my sister, 327 00:17:07,969 --> 00:17:12,415 "my daughter, even my mother and the times they had resisted being known, 328 00:17:12,421 --> 00:17:15,009 "guessing instead that the man they were standing across from 329 00:17:15,015 --> 00:17:18,408 "wanted something or someone else entirely." 330 00:17:18,889 --> 00:17:20,203 Is this fiction? 331 00:17:20,577 --> 00:17:22,213 Is anything fiction? 332 00:17:22,219 --> 00:17:24,947 No, I don't mean it like a Cheshire Cat kind of riddle. 333 00:17:24,953 --> 00:17:27,713 I mean, like, did you change the names and identifying details? 334 00:17:27,719 --> 00:17:29,221 Like, is this fiction? 335 00:17:29,227 --> 00:17:31,211 I did change the names, but this 336 00:17:31,217 --> 00:17:32,522 is what I wrote about Denise 337 00:17:32,528 --> 00:17:35,338 before she published her fucking Tumblr article, 338 00:17:35,344 --> 00:17:39,118 before a website called The Awl called me "Throat-Piercer." 339 00:17:39,406 --> 00:17:41,789 This is what I wrote about Denise before she told the world 340 00:17:41,795 --> 00:17:44,791 that I was a menace and a sleaze and a fraud. 341 00:17:44,797 --> 00:17:47,493 She doesn't think you're a fraud. She clearly respects you a lot. 342 00:17:47,499 --> 00:17:49,297 Okay, this is what I saw and this is what I wrote. 343 00:17:49,302 --> 00:17:52,965 I saw a woman who was lovely, lonely, and scared. 344 00:17:52,971 --> 00:17:55,155 I saw a woman who didn't wanna let anyone in. 345 00:17:55,377 --> 00:17:59,236 And I see, now, in myself, every fucking guy 346 00:17:59,242 --> 00:18:01,072 who didn't care enough to push a little further. 347 00:18:01,077 --> 00:18:03,911 Hannah, that is what I am guilty of... 348 00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:06,988 not pushing hard enough to get to know Denise, 349 00:18:06,994 --> 00:18:08,989 to get to the heart of her story. 350 00:18:09,995 --> 00:18:11,494 Do you get that? 351 00:18:11,895 --> 00:18:13,200 Yeah. 352 00:18:14,805 --> 00:18:18,992 Do you wanna know why I think I really wanted to meet you? 353 00:18:19,963 --> 00:18:22,365 - Yeah, I do wanna know. - To fix that. 354 00:18:22,677 --> 00:18:24,677 I mean, it's spoiled with Denise. I... 355 00:18:24,872 --> 00:18:29,083 I know it is, but I can ask you where you're from, what you want, who you are. 356 00:18:29,089 --> 00:18:32,569 I can... I can show you you're more to me than just a pretty face. 357 00:18:35,845 --> 00:18:37,074 So? 358 00:18:39,660 --> 00:18:41,276 Where are you from? 359 00:18:43,364 --> 00:18:45,568 - I'm from Michigan. - Really? Which part? 360 00:18:45,574 --> 00:18:48,450 I love Traverse City, chocolate-covered cherry capital of the world. 361 00:18:48,456 --> 00:18:51,256 I ate so much on a book tour once, I had to stick my fingers down my throat. 362 00:18:51,261 --> 00:18:52,653 - Really? - Yeah, I know. 363 00:18:52,659 --> 00:18:55,350 I'm not opposed to a little casual bulimia from time to time. 364 00:18:55,356 --> 00:18:57,809 - Who isn't? - Well, it takes a toll on the enamel. 365 00:18:59,019 --> 00:19:00,824 Um, no. I'm from East Lansing. 366 00:19:00,830 --> 00:19:02,848 - It's not really that close. - Right. 367 00:19:02,910 --> 00:19:05,772 And what are your dreams for the next five years? 368 00:19:05,882 --> 00:19:08,694 Sorry to sound like a "People" magazine interview. 369 00:19:09,881 --> 00:19:11,691 No, it's okay. It's a good question. 370 00:19:11,697 --> 00:19:14,193 I want to write. 371 00:19:15,399 --> 00:19:19,241 I want to write stories that make people feel less alone than I did. 372 00:19:19,247 --> 00:19:22,661 I want to make people laugh about the things in life that are painful. 373 00:19:22,667 --> 00:19:23,983 That's what I wanna do. 374 00:19:26,051 --> 00:19:27,294 Good goal. 375 00:19:27,556 --> 00:19:28,760 That's a really good goal. 376 00:19:28,766 --> 00:19:31,267 - So, maybe one day, you'll be famous. - Pfft, maybe. 377 00:19:31,273 --> 00:19:33,377 And a lot of people know some stuff about you. 378 00:19:34,751 --> 00:19:36,034 Some stuff. 379 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,657 I mean, they'll think they'll know everything, but they won't. 380 00:19:38,743 --> 00:19:41,048 - Like what happened to you. - Like what happened to me. 381 00:19:41,054 --> 00:19:44,555 You thought you knew everything, but you didn't. 382 00:19:45,951 --> 00:19:48,045 - No, I didn't. - You listened to one source 383 00:19:48,051 --> 00:19:49,485 and then you flapped your lips. 384 00:19:49,491 --> 00:19:50,884 Your funny lips... 385 00:19:51,095 --> 00:19:53,964 but all the same, you made me the face of this 386 00:19:53,970 --> 00:19:58,532 epidemic about literary men attacking industrious, innocent, young women. 387 00:19:58,538 --> 00:20:00,716 That's what two-bit journalists do. 388 00:20:01,084 --> 00:20:03,771 And you're not a journalist, Hannah. 389 00:20:04,792 --> 00:20:06,599 You're a fuckin' writer. 390 00:20:14,914 --> 00:20:18,602 I can't believe you have a signed copy of "When She Was Good." 391 00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:21,710 God, everyone acts like this book is Philip Roth being the worst, 392 00:20:21,716 --> 00:20:23,582 but it's actually him being the best. 393 00:20:23,588 --> 00:20:26,168 And I know I'm not supposed to like him because he's a misogynist 394 00:20:26,174 --> 00:20:28,950 and he demeans women, but I can't help it. I fuckin' love his writing. 395 00:20:28,956 --> 00:20:32,097 You can't let politics dictate what you read or who you fuck. 396 00:20:32,103 --> 00:20:34,462 Those are my rules. Write that down. 397 00:20:34,468 --> 00:20:36,641 I'll do you one better. I'll tattoo it on my body. 398 00:20:36,647 --> 00:20:37,847 Better. 399 00:20:38,953 --> 00:20:42,486 I heard an alternate title for this book was "American Bitch." 400 00:20:42,492 --> 00:20:46,051 I have no idea if that's true. Can't find any proof on the Internet, 401 00:20:46,057 --> 00:20:49,332 but, God, if it is, fuck, that's so good. 402 00:20:50,152 --> 00:20:51,731 Why don't you keep the Roth? 403 00:20:52,933 --> 00:20:54,449 - Seriously? - Yeah, seriously. 404 00:20:54,455 --> 00:20:55,959 I like how happy it makes you. 405 00:20:56,042 --> 00:20:58,346 But it's signed to you and everything. 406 00:20:59,618 --> 00:21:02,634 God, I hope someone writes a book about what a cunt I am someday. 407 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,023 - Do you? - Yeah, obviously. 408 00:21:05,134 --> 00:21:07,515 What would be better than to, like, ruin someone's life 409 00:21:07,521 --> 00:21:11,051 with your wanton sex appeal and, like, icicle-sharp intellect? But... 410 00:21:11,286 --> 00:21:13,976 I'm half-Jewish, so I don't really see that happening for me. 411 00:21:15,052 --> 00:21:16,684 You really are funny. 412 00:21:18,368 --> 00:21:19,974 - Hannah? - Yeah. 413 00:21:20,385 --> 00:21:22,909 Would you lie down with me for a moment? 414 00:21:24,683 --> 00:21:26,173 Just a moment. 415 00:21:26,292 --> 00:21:29,488 And I'd encourage you to keep your clothes on to delineate any... 416 00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:31,573 any boundaries that feel right to you. 417 00:21:31,579 --> 00:21:35,164 I just wanna feel close to someone in a way that I haven't in a long time. 418 00:21:35,261 --> 00:21:36,769 If you please. 419 00:21:57,117 --> 00:21:59,261 Your bed smells like snacks. 420 00:21:59,668 --> 00:22:01,648 I live alone, lady. 421 00:22:02,753 --> 00:22:06,167 I'm sorry I wrote something about you that, um, upset you so much 422 00:22:06,173 --> 00:22:08,196 without considering all the facts. 423 00:22:09,253 --> 00:22:10,817 It's all right. 424 00:22:10,823 --> 00:22:12,267 I'm not angry. 425 00:22:45,491 --> 00:22:46,889 Oh, I've got to go. 426 00:22:46,895 --> 00:22:48,296 Oh, my fucking God! 427 00:22:48,604 --> 00:22:50,103 I touched your dick. 428 00:22:50,109 --> 00:22:52,608 You pulled your dick out and I touched your dick. 429 00:22:52,614 --> 00:22:55,999 What the fuck? And now it's still out. You didn't even put it away. 430 00:22:56,005 --> 00:22:58,228 I can see your dick. 431 00:22:58,234 --> 00:22:59,704 It's right there. 432 00:22:59,710 --> 00:23:01,133 Hey, Dad! 433 00:23:01,643 --> 00:23:03,564 Hi, love! 434 00:23:03,625 --> 00:23:05,250 Hi, honey. 435 00:23:06,885 --> 00:23:09,114 Oh, my fucking God. 436 00:23:10,627 --> 00:23:13,439 I'm just confused. I thought that I was going to Mom's. 437 00:23:13,445 --> 00:23:15,136 Mom thought you might have more fun here tonight. 438 00:23:15,141 --> 00:23:17,836 But I don't have my flash cards or my book. I... 439 00:23:20,317 --> 00:23:21,524 Hi. 440 00:23:21,910 --> 00:23:25,231 - Hi. Hi. - This is my friend, Hannah. 441 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,122 Why don't you go play with your beads and things? 442 00:23:27,127 --> 00:23:29,331 - I got you some new markers. - Miranda: But I wanna show you what 443 00:23:29,336 --> 00:23:31,627 I've been working on in flute. It's really good. 444 00:23:31,633 --> 00:23:32,931 Do you wanna hear? 445 00:23:34,723 --> 00:23:35,923 Me? 446 00:23:38,195 --> 00:23:39,404 Okay. 447 00:23:39,410 --> 00:23:41,889 Excellent, cool. Okay. 448 00:23:51,657 --> 00:23:54,568 - Sorry. - Honey, take your time. 449 00:25:28,737 --> 00:25:34,737 Sync & Corrections by PetaG www.addic7ed.com 37287

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