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I'll officially change your name to Earl
Island.
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Earl's Island in Fiji.
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My plan was always have your friends
close. Go!
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Orange team wins immunity!
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And your enemies closer.
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Can't take that chance.
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That's the last time I let people
convince me because I'm on a dance
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game is really beginning, and
everything's going to have to go through
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Well, well, well.
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We are in business.
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I'm pretty proud of myself.
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This is one of the highest peaks of my
life because I've challenged myself so
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much in this game and I made it all the
way through.
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I mean, it's a cool experience.
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The experience of a lifetime.
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Well, he never once had his name written
down until it mattered. Day 39 when he
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received every single vote from the
jury. Not bad for a guy who never won an
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individual immunity challenge.
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Didn't even know he was coming on the
show until two days prior to flying to
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Fiji. Earl, congratulations.
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You literally, you know, we cast this
show for months and months.
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And literally at the last minute.
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We found you. I remember calling you on
a Friday. You were on a plane on Monday.
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Do you remember that call?
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I remember clearly because I didn't know
what I was getting myself into.
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But I had to figure it out as soon as I
got onto the island.
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Was it sort of learning on the job for
you? On the job training. You weren't
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really even a fan of Survivor. I hadn't
even seen the show.
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I hadn't seen that much of the show. I
mean, I'd heard about it, and I'd
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watched, like, the first season.
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But, you know, I'm a pretty busy guy. I
don't watch a lot of TV. But I became a
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big fan.
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I bet. I'm the biggest fan. Yeah.
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You've got a million reasons to enjoy
the show now.
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Well, obviously, alliances, in your
case, were key. But it seemed like your
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relationship with Yao was really the hub
of everything that happened.
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When did that relationship form? How
early into the game?
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I think we formed that alliance day one.
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Yao and I just talked, and we clicked,
and I noticed he was the professor of
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Gilligan's Island, and I ran with that.
I just knew he was a keeper. He was a
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good guy, and we just bonded, and so I
liked Yao. And did you have an agreement
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that went to a certain point in the
game, like down to Final Four?
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Yao and I were to go all the way to the
end together, and as the closer we got,
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you know, strategy changes.
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And I told everyone, and we all agreed,
like, you know, top five, top four,
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every man for himself.
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Because that's the only way to be fair.
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Yeah. What was it about Earl that made
you trust him?
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Well, it wasn't until we were stuck in
Ravu in those horrible conditions that I
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began to notice that of all my tribesmen
there, I think Earl turned out to have
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the work ethic.
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I appreciated that. He worked very hard,
and he was the one who actually came
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much closer to me than anybody else. I
was an old guy, and I felt a little bit
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out of place, and I really felt quite
out of place, actually. And Earl was the
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one who always came to me and talked to
me, and we did a lot of things together.
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He was very hardworking, and so was I,
and so I grew an attachment to him.
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And Earl, what is the status of the
friendship today? Is it truly, as you
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in the show, going to be lifelong?
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Yao and I will be friends for life.
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For you, Earl, was there one key moment?
Do you think there was a strategic move
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that helped you win this game?
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The key moment was when I actually,
unfortunately, had to write down Yao's
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because he was my biggest competitor,
and it's about your best chances at
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winning. So that was the key moment.
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And so for that to happen, it really
takes one step backwards then to go to
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dreams, not... deciding to give him
immunity. I was shocked. I was
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shocked.
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I was already strategizing my mind to
possibly be going against Yao on what I
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would say, what I would do. So when
Dream, you know, reneged on that deal, I
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was, wow, I just won a million dollars.
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I was like... So you really knew.
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Well, I mean, it was just... It became
just basic thinking. I was like, okay,
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many people, you know, everyone
interprets the game differently. So you
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Yeah. You were looking at the jury
thinking I got their vote. The jury
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mad. Yeah. So the question is, because
you said in the show the reason you got
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rid of Yao is I wouldn't beat you. Yeah.
So let's say Dreams keeps his word.
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Yao Man is now in the final three. From
the people on the jury, how many votes
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does Yao Man get if he's there?
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Ten.
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One, two, three, four, five, six.
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That is enough.
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So you made a very wise decision.
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And Dream, you're inadvertently, you
cost, you affected three lives here.
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You cost yourself a million bucks. You
cost your young man a million bucks. And
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you gave Earl a million.
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I'm a good guy. I'm a good guy. What can
I say? I'm a good guy. I'm a good guy.
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What can I say, you know? Three lives is
better than one.
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All right, we're going to take a quick
break. We are going to come back and
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to Dreams, who obviously had a very big
impact on this show. And we will hear
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all about that and try to get to the
bottom of all the decisions he's made
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get to the truth.
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Live reunion show right after this.
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Back as a child, I was pretty much
homeless because my mama started doing
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And my brothers and sisters and I
decided all we got is each other and
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ourselves. So it makes me know that my
fight is just beginning.
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There's two people we can afford to lose
now. I ain't pointing no finger.
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There's Cassandra and Lee, right?
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They let me.
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I'm going to help my family when I get
back.
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We are back to the Survivor Fiji Live
Reunion show, Dreams.
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First of all, before I get to the
questions I have for you, is it possible
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to give perspective?
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You grew up in such a different way than
certainly I did and I think most of us
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here tonight.
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Is it possible for you to give us
perspective on how that changes you
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into this game and how you see this
game?
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You know what I'm saying? You have such
a different perspective when you enter
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this game.
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I think it helped out a lot. I think it
helped out a whole bunch because I never
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had a thought in my mind of stopping
because of the conditions. The
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didn't really affect me.
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More affected by falling into humanity,
out of humanity, like trying to make
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real friends, like in life, and then
playing the game. So I couldn't separate
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that. I couldn't, like, that's the only
part that kept messing me up. So it
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really did have a big effect.
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So I wondered out there, especially in
the beginning, if you were going to be
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socially overwhelmed.
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Because you hadn't maybe been in this
kind of social situations as often as
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other people who work in industry or
Earl who works in advertising.
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Were you at any point in this game
thinking, I'm not sure how to act? Or
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have a plan the second you got there?
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I planned before I got there. And the
people that didn't, I don't know where
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they ended up at. But I planned before I
even got there. But when I got there
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and met the people, then the plans had
to change. The plans have to change
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accordingly who's there and who's not.
But the first day I got there, I talked
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to Earl.
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And I said, Earl, man, we got to make it
to at least the final. We actually had
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a final five.
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But then Earl went to Exile Island. We
split up. I was like, man, if he still
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remember me, me and Cassandra stuck
together. We was part of the final five.
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last three was part of the final five.
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But the other two got eliminated before
we got.
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to the final five. So you're saying that
from day one, every decision you made,
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you knew what you were doing. You were
playing the game. You weren't learning
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trying to figure it out. No, that's not
what I'm saying.
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This is what I'm saying.
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Okay, well, forget what you said. New
question.
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Okay, give me a new question. Were
you...
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In charge of everything. That's the
question everybody has, Dreams, is were
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making it up or did you know what you
were doing? I was never in charge of
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anything. If you could see, I never was
in charge of anything.
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So I would have to, you know what I
mean, just live my way through.
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But my decisions I made were so
unpredictable because if I see that
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plan is always going through and we all
for a million dollars and only one
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person getting a million dollars, if
your plan going through, that means my
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isn't going through.
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Okay, here's my question.
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Did you know exactly what you were
doing?
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From day one.
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I don't get what you're saying.
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Dreams. You know exactly what I'm
saying. This, by the way, is what it was
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for 39 days.
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Dreams.
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Let me ask Cassandra.
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Was dreams flying by the seat of his
pants or was dreams playing the part of
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guy flying by the seat of his pants?
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Dreams playing the part of a guy flying
by the seat of his pants. He knew
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exactly. He was very.
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He was very, he thought it out. We
communicated every step.
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So he was a smart guy. I trusted him
because we communicated very well, and
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knew what people were thinking and how
they would react to different situations
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and scenarios.
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So he would run them through his head,
and then he would come back and he'd
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okay, this is what I think is going to
happen, and it's going to work like
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And the thing that amazed me most about
Dreams was this ability to really get
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back in the good graces, people after
having made some difficult decisions.
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All right, well.
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All right, I've got a couple more
questions about the truck then. But
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do that, there are a lot of questions
around this truck negotiation and
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decision not to live up to his word. But
just to remind you the chain of events,
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here's a quick recap.
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How badly do you need that car? You know
how bad I need a car, y 'all, man.
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Here's the deal. When there are four of
us left, if you and I happen to be one
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of the four, if you win the immunity for
that round, You'll give it to me.
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I promise to God. You can't enforce it.
It's his word. It's his word. I'll give
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you my word, y 'all. I will give y 'all
man the immunity necklace because I
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appreciate what he did for me.
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And I wouldn't want my son to not be a
man of his words.
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All right, Dream, you have the immunity
necklace.
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What are you going to do with it?
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I'm going to keep it.
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15th person voted out and the ninth
member of our jury, y 'all man.
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So, dreams.
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Here's the question.
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You were all over the map in terms of
the show. At one point, you know, you
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I swear to God, I want my son to see me
live up to my word.
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Later in the show, you say to Cassandra
and Earl, you say, but if I do go back
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in my word, better vote Yao Man out.
Otherwise, it's one of you two. So
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you had ideas. Here's the question.
Here's a chance to be completely candid.
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When you made that deal with y 'all man
out there in the hot Sun you wanted that
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truck Did you intend to keep your word
or were you playing y 'all man from from
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the get -go?
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Well from the yes Okay,
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when he gave me the truck I figured hey
we broke me down the consequence and
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everything So I tried to get rid of y
'all man, you know saying but it didn't
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work So I mean I wasn't but when it
didn't work I was like dad I ain't got
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choice but to really
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So, okay, wait, that's the dream.
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This is, this is why you lasted so long
because this is why Alex and Mookie and
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those guys were going, ah, trust him. I
don't know. I don't know if he knows.
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This is what I'm going to ask. And I got
to know because the whole, the whole
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end of the season centered around this
question for me.
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When you said, yes, yeah, man, I'll live
up to my word. I swear to God on my
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son's life. Were you playing us and
everybody?
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Dreams. When you made that deal, were
you going to keep it or were you
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I don't know, I'll deal with it later?
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I never, it was never an intentional
deal to keep. I knew coming here, I knew
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was playing a game and I knew that this
game was lost. As you see, I never told
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the truth, so I never wanted to start.
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So you, just to be clear, you never
intended to keep it?
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I never intended to keep it. I mean,
come on, we all friends, right?
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Okay, now.
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And did you have any second thoughts
about maybe I should give the truck
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Or is this, hey, he made the deal. I
kept it. And then I went on my own. The
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more time we spent together, me and Yao,
I started talking to him. We talked
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about family and stuff. And then we grew
friends, like really good friends. So
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as the more time grew on, my good
thoughts started kicking in. And I
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give him the truck. I wanted to actually
do that because Yao, because he was
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Yao, super Yao, you know, Yao.
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But then I keep back in the game mode.
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And I did it. I did the right thing.
Well, I will say this for you, Dreams.
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charm gets you a long way because you're
able to set up many deals and go back
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on them and yet still be a likable guy
having talked to you as much as I have.
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So somehow you pulled that off.
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Earl, question for you about Dreams. And
I know you're going to be honest.
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Yao man is talking to you thinking,
asking you, do you think he's going to
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his word? And you and Cassandra said,
Yao, yeah, he's going to keep his word.
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Did you really think he was going to
keep his word? Or were you thinking,
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as well let Yao think he's going to keep
his word because that only helps me if
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he doesn't?
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I totally thought Dreams would keep his
word.
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He did?
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I thought he did. I thought he would.
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And Dreams, the obvious question is you
tell your son, hey, it's a game. You say
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whatever you want. It's out without play
out last, right?
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Right. Okay.
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Alright, well, the man who suffered...
Yeah?
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Cassandra, did you think... Oh, well,
you told her.
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Alright, enough of that. I'm moving on.
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This is why tribal councils last like
two and a half hours.
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Well, the man who suffered the most from
the betrayal of dreams was Yao Man,
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clearly one of this season's most
popular players.
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Old people are usually the first ones to
get rooted off, so I am definitely
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trying to prove myself.
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Now, man, pulling the evil Knievel,
going way back.
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This is my million dollars.
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I'm about to jump off my gym here. My
credo in life is love many, trust few,
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wrong to none.
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Yeah, man, obviously got a lot of fans
here.
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For the moment, sticking with the truck
negotiation, this was a million -dollar
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negotiation. As it got closer, did you
believe, you must have believed Dreams
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was going to keep his word?
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Yes, I did, all the way through.
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And until the very, very last minute
before you asked him, that's only when I
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thought to have a little inkling, maybe
for him to take so long to say yes or
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no.
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I had my fear that, no, he may at that
time change. You spent a lot of time
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Dreams. What's your take on him? Were
you disappointed or impressed?
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I was actually quite impressed with him.
I think he's a, you know, basically
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he's a very smart guy, but, you know,
he's totally undisciplined in his
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thinking.
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He has flashes of genius, but he doesn't
know what to do with it. He doesn't put
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it together. So, you know, things come
out of his head that go, wow, he knows
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what's going on. And other times, if he
doesn't put it together, that can be
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trained. I hope he gets some.
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Your education and so on. You can go
anywhere you want to.
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That's actually quite a compliment.
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It really is. I like that. Coming from
Yao, he's the smartest man in the world.
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You're really saying that you believe
dreams... The thing you said at the end
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was he could do anything he wanted? He
can do anything he wanted. He just needs
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to get himself together and get some
discipline in thinking.
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So, Yao man, here's the thing that
really confused me about you.
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You play this game strategically for 36,
37 days, 38 days, whatever it was.
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And then at the last moment, you're
sitting there and you do nothing to try
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persuade dreams to live up to his word.
Well, that's my stubborn streak, that
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when I am convinced, I have difficulty
convincing myself that I was wrong about
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dreams. I convince myself that he will
live up to his end of deal.
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After I've done that, for me to at the
end say, no, I was wrong, I find that,
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you know, that's my...
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failing that i couldn't tell myself i
was wrong better make a new deal with
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so because of that so your gut was
telling you i need to do something about
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pride and my pride and my stubbornness
say i'm i'm right about him i cannot be
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wrong about him and well i was wrong so
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What's been the reaction on the streets?
Obviously here tonight, you know, the
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audience watching the show as it played
back loved you. Are people coming up to
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you on the streets?
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Yes, quite often.
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I've been recognized and they haven't
come up to me and asked for autographs
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so on. And it's a new feeling.
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Is it a good feeling? It's a good
feeling. And at first when I hear people
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calling my name Yao Man on the street, I
take a double take because...
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It's not a common name, so when someone
calls me, I look over and say, I should
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know that person because he knows my
name, and I go, I feel embarrassed. I
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remember his name, but then I realize,
oh, they know my name from the show.
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All right, well, up next, love him or
hate him, Rocky was certainly one of
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season's most colorful characters.
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We'll talk to him and one guy he did not
get along with, Anthony.
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That's next. And now taking us to break,
our very own Survivor composers, Russ
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Landau and David Vannifor.
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Welcome back to the Survivor, a live CG
reunion show.
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Well, every season on Survivor, there's
one guy that we hope will be sort of a
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go -to guy that'll give us something no
matter what the situation.
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Without question, this season that guy
was Rocky.
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I'm going crazy, bro.
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For some reason, Anthony, you just
consistently irritate the f*** out of
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You're a man.
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At least the way I was raised, I gotta
act like one. All I can do is try to get
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people quiet up. I can lead by example.
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He wanted me to take my t -shirt and
hang myself from a palm tree. Bring it,
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bro. Stick to this guy. Let's go, Jeff.
Let's play the game. So why don't we
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just call Jeff up right now on the Jeff
phone and go, Hey, Jeff, we're ready to
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vote somebody off today.
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You know, I... I say, you know, we look
for a go -to guy, and it's really true,
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and it doesn't take anything away from
anyone else or one way or the other, but
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Rocky always delivered. You always had
something to say, and you didn't
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to say it.
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What's the reaction when people see you?
Because you're, on the show, you're
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abrasive and kind of a wild card. Do
they come up to you? Yeah, they come up,
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you know, take a picture or something,
you know, say hello, and say that I'm
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the angry maniac, you know, all the
time. I had a sandwich that day, and,
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know, things are going all right. You
know what I mean?
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When you describe the show to people,
what do you say? Like, how do you
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this experience?
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Well,
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one guy that you didn't have a good time
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with is conveniently sitting right to
your right. Wow, that's so weird how
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happened. Yeah.
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Anthony clearly didn't get along with
Rocky in general and sort of had a tough
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go of it your whole time out there. Take
a look, Anthony, at this.
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I'm a nerd.
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I know this. I'm a nerd, I'm a geek, I'm
a dooebo, whatever the hell you want to
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call it. I have been for forever.
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I'm obviously the weakest person on the
tribe.
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And I got my work cut out for me.
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Or cookies been left by the fire to tend
the fire and make the water while all
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the boys go out fishing.
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Cinderella. Black male Cinderella.
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I tried it on my face early on, and you
know what? I got knocked back. You can't
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give up, bro.
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You can't give up. Who says I gave up?
If you get knocked back, you stand back
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up, and you take another knock on the
mouth. You act like a little girl
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sometimes, okay?
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Once again. You're feminine.
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No, no, no. Toughen up. This is why I
don't say anything.
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Keep going, man. Fight for what's yours.
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Take the skirt off a little bit. Let's
go.
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And I don't want to start another
argument between you two guys, but at
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and I said this to you, Anthony, I felt
that in his own twisted way, Rocky was
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actually trying to nudge you to fight
back a little more.
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When you watched that, had to watch it
again, did you see anything different,
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was it just hard to watch it again?
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You know, it's hard to watch it again,
but really, I look at it and, you know,
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yeah.
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What it was for me, like watching it the
second time around.
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you know, this guy is hungry, he's
crazy, you know, when he gets hungry and
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thirsty. And for me not to fight back,
it was part of my strategy. Like, I
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didn't want to be confrontational, but
Rocky wanted me to be confrontational,
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you know, so.
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Are you any different as a result of
this experience?
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You know, I know that I can put up with
a lot more than I ever thought I ever
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could, which is fine because I work with
lawyers, so, you know, Alex.
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Oh, yeah, Alex, you were in full lawyer
mode at Final Tribal. Can you repeat
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said question, please? Stop, stop, stop.
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I got a question for you. In a nutshell,
why did you guys trust Dreams, going
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back to that, because he was betraying
everybody, and I kept wondering when
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come to Tribal and you guys, you and
Mookie and Edgardo would still be
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what was the reason?
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You know, at that moment, you develop a
personal relationship with somebody.
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And you have to, like, go with your gut.
You take a chance on everybody, right?
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Everybody you trust, you only trust so
far.
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But dreams is our best bet given the
situation.
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It's just your best bet, you know? You
just do what you have to do. Dreams or
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Lisey.
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Lisey, you know, wanted to maybe go
home.
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Lisey. That's what it was. The question
for you, for me, is, is that you?
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Because you were funny, mean, sad,
happy.
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Is that Lisey we saw out there you? Do
you kind of live your life with your
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emotions on your sleeve?
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Well, I mean, yeah. You have to. What
are you supposed to do? I can't do that.
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That's too much work. I'm too lazy for
that covering up madness.
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I got to do it that way.
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See?
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Rock and roll, baby.
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Rock and roll. I should give you a nod.
You were a go -to woman as well. You
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gave us a lot out there.
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You took a lot of knocks out there. And
by the way, for anybody that saw the
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episode in which his knee popped, I give
you my word that's not any sound effect
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at all. And we all know who were out
there.
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How is your knee, by the way?
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I have a torn ACL, Jeff.
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Oh, you do?
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Yeah.
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Wow. So you're going to get it fixed?
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I don't know. Maybe I'll take some of
this money and get it fixed, but
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not.
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So you just wedged it back into place
out there. I don't know what happened. I
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was in pain and straightened it out. I
don't think I heard it. Everyone else
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heard it. I just felt pain. We heard it.
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I saw it on the show.
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Michelle, if it weren't for you, Ravi
would still be trying to make fire. You
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did something virtually nobody has done
on our show.
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And as one of the youngest people to
ever be on this show, what does this do
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you? Because if you're an older person,
this could just be a fun adventure. When
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you're young, does it form any lasting
impression or influence your life?
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Well, I mean, I think it proves that it
doesn't matter how old you are. It just
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matters if you have the right attitude
and you know what your goal is.
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And what was your goal coming in?
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To win a million dollars, but after a
couple twists and turns maybe, that
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quite work out for me.
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But we'll see.
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Edgardo, you got blindsided. You know,
all of a sudden you were out of the
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Everything always points back to dreams,
doesn't it?
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Funny how that goes.
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But you said something really
interesting in the last episode, that
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actually gave you a new appreciation.
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for family back home which isn't
something i would have guessed you would
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from the time i spent with you is that
you realize i mean you're there by
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yourself and uh and you don't have any i
mean you can't trust anybody and i got
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really blindsided so at that time i felt
homesick i was like i really want to
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see my family so so that's why i said
that does it really though does it
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you that there are people in your life
you can trust and everybody else yeah it
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does it does i mean you're there by
yourself i mean 39 days but it's a lot
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longer than than the 39 days so so i was
thinking about my family a lot all
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right well up next I think it's fair to
say that Survivor takes a bigger... Oh,
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nice comment. I got it.
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Takes a bigger physical and mental toll
than anybody can imagine. And up next,
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we're going to talk to Gary about being
evacuated.
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Plus, which of these Survivors do you
think actually gained 20 pounds in
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preparation for the show?
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First, here's a little reminder of how
tough this season was.
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You're in the biggest group of losers
that survivors ever seen. Fuck.
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I'm skinning in homeless people right
now. Are you serious? They're getting
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nutrition than they die.
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Water.
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Crazy. What's happening here, bro?
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Welcome back. The Survivor Fiji Reunion
Show.
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Tonight's finale was our 200th episode
of Survivor, and I'm still asked by
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people, are the survivors really
starving? Are they really sleeping on
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Are they really eating shellfish? In
other words, how real is Survivor? Who
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better to speak to that than Gary?
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Guy had been in Vietnam and had to be
evacuated because of, it was literally
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thousands of fire ant bites.
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The fire ants got to me the worst.
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It's a tough condition. There's no way
around it. I mean, you know, sometimes
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it's... the question is always asked is
that life changing well i don't really
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want my life to change because my life
is really good but it did physically
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change me which i kind of had a load up
on the guys you probably
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had
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it as tough as anybody you never got the
good beach You had the immunity idol,
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and then your buddy used it, and it
betrayed and all that. What was the
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part for you?
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The worst part was probably just going
to tribal council, every single tribal
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council. I think almost every single
tribal council, sitting there in the
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always wondering if I want to be the
next person to go. And, you know, thanks
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dreams, you know, I eventually had that
dream. I probably got blown off.
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Stacey, you know, Mookie talked about
the emotional part of going to tribal
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worrying. We had a challenge where you
took a lot of personal hits where people
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said, you know, in other words, they
didn't necessarily like you as much.
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Same question is with Anthony. When you
see that back on the show, is it harder
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to watch or are you able to get some
perspective when you see it?
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No, I got grounded from that whole
challenge. I mean,
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I didn't get it changed me and my
perspective on myself and other people.
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turned into a positive?
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Yeah. Wow.
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That's a great way to take that. It
could have gotten me down, but I didn't
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it because I'm not like that.
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Liliana, you are the person who gained
20 pounds before we came on the show
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in preparation for being out there a
long time, which didn't necessarily
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What prompted you to gain 20?
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I mean, that's a big decision, 20
pounds. Well, you know, I probably
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a little bit. And I did call my mother
and tell her to get cooking and create
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tacos for me. But I didn't want to be
medevaced out from, you know.
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for being malnutritioned or anything, so
I wanted reserves. So that's why I
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gained weight.
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And I was definitely thinking, I'm going
to win this game. So I'm going to stick
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it out.
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I'm going to be there.
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I had to lose weight after that. A
couple quick questions for the people I
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haven't talked to because we're running
out of time. How proud are your kids of
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you for being out there?
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Oh, my goodness.
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You want to ask them?
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I think and I hope that they're very
proud because they are the main reason
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I did this. And as I said, you know,
stick to your dream.
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Don't give up.
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I never gave up. I had to be voted off.
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Sylvia.
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Quick plug for you, because as the bossy
architect, you actually have a nice
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thing that's just happened. Give us that
quick update.
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Right. Well, a project that we designed,
it's a beautiful house in Utah, has
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been selected to be on a brand new show
on HGTV. It's called Extreme Building,
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and it's going to be showing early next
year.
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Congratulations. Thank you.
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Erica.
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Quickly, how frustrating to not get to
play this game very long?
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Oh, it was very frustrating.
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I mean, that was the main reason I was
here, because I thought I was physically
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able to do it. You were. You were
surprised, as were you, Jessica. Did you
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any friends with only three days out
there?
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I did, because after I got voted out, I
ended up with amazing people and bonded
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for life.
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Good. All right. Well, thank you, guys.
All right. When we come back, we're
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going to give you a sneak peek at our
next location.
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It's a Survivor, PG Library Union show
here on CBS.
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Welcome to a close. We are packing our
bags and heading out for our 15th
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Take a look.
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This fall, Survivor leaves the tropical
island setting for something completely
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different.
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This is China, where the modern world
meshes with 5 ,000 years of
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colorful history.
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This is the first time a major American
television program will shoot an entire
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series on location in the heart of
China.
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The adventure will play out in the
shadows of a sacred mountain on the
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a remote lake in a land known for
tigers, giant pandas, snow leopards, and
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ancient traditions.
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A new group of castaways will battle
each other and the element to outwit,
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outplay, and outlap.
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Survivor is going to China.
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Tomorrow morning on The Early Show on
CBS, Earl will receive his check for $1
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million. You can own a piece of Survivor
Fiji by bidding on one -of -a -kind
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memorabilia to benefit the Elizabeth
Glazer Pediatric Foundation.
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The website's on the screen now. And if
you have what it takes to be on our
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show, go to cbs .com for more details.
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Earl has the final world.
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A message to his mom. She can't hear
you, but go ahead and say it. For my
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mother, for Happy Mother's Day to you.
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We will see you in China.
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Earl just gave away half his money.
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Good night.
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