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I'll officially change your name to Earl Island.

Earl's Island in Fiji.

My plan was always have your friends close. Go!

Orange team wins immunity!

And your enemies closer.

Can't take that chance.

That's the last time I let people convince me because I'm on a dance

game is really beginning, and everything's going to have to go through

Well, well, well.

We are in business.

I'm pretty proud of myself.

This is one of the highest peaks of my life because I've challenged myself so

much in this game and I made it all the way through.

I mean, it's a cool experience.

The experience of a lifetime.

Well, he never once had his name written down until it mattered. Day 39 when he

received every single vote from the jury. Not bad for a guy who never won an

individual immunity challenge.

Didn't even know he was coming on the show until two days prior to flying to

Fiji. Earl, congratulations.

You literally, you know, we cast this show for months and months.

And literally at the last minute.

We found you. I remember calling you on a Friday. You were on a plane on Monday.

Do you remember that call?

I remember clearly because I didn't know what I was getting myself into.

But I had to figure it out as soon as I got onto the island.

Was it sort of learning on the job for you? On the job training. You weren't

really even a fan of Survivor. I hadn't even seen the show.

I hadn't seen that much of the show. I mean, I'd heard about it, and I'd

watched, like, the first season.

But, you know, I'm a pretty busy guy. I don't watch a lot of TV. But I became a

big fan.

I bet. I'm the biggest fan. Yeah.

You've got a million reasons to enjoy the show now.

Well, obviously, alliances, in your case, were key. But it seemed like your

relationship with Yao was really the hub of everything that happened.

When did that relationship form? How early into the game?

I think we formed that alliance day one.

Yao and I just talked, and we clicked, and I noticed he was the professor of

Gilligan's Island, and I ran with that. I just knew he was a keeper. He was a

good guy, and we just bonded, and so I liked Yao. And did you have an agreement

that went to a certain point in the game, like down to Final Four?

Yao and I were to go all the way to the end together, and as the closer we got,

you know, strategy changes.

And I told everyone, and we all agreed, like, you know, top five, top four,

every man for himself.

Because that's the only way to be fair.

Yeah. What was it about Earl that made you trust him?

Well, it wasn't until we were stuck in Ravu in those horrible conditions that I

began to notice that of all my tribesmen there, I think Earl turned out to have

the work ethic.

I appreciated that. He worked very hard, and he was the one who actually came

much closer to me than anybody else. I was an old guy, and I felt a little bit

out of place, and I really felt quite out of place, actually. And Earl was the

one who always came to me and talked to me, and we did a lot of things together.

He was very hardworking, and so was I, and so I grew an attachment to him.

And Earl, what is the status of the friendship today? Is it truly, as you

in the show, going to be lifelong?

Yao and I will be friends for life.

For you, Earl, was there one key moment? Do you think there was a strategic move

that helped you win this game?

The key moment was when I actually, unfortunately, had to write down Yao's

because he was my biggest competitor, and it's about your best chances at

winning. So that was the key moment.

And so for that to happen, it really takes one step backwards then to go to

dreams, not... deciding to give him immunity. I was shocked. I was

shocked.

I was already strategizing my mind to possibly be going against Yao on what I

would say, what I would do. So when Dream, you know, reneged on that deal, I

was, wow, I just won a million dollars.

I was like... So you really knew.

Well, I mean, it was just... It became just basic thinking. I was like, okay,

many people, you know, everyone interprets the game differently. So you

Yeah. You were looking at the jury thinking I got their vote. The jury

mad. Yeah. So the question is, because you said in the show the reason you got

rid of Yao is I wouldn't beat you. Yeah. So let's say Dreams keeps his word.

Yao Man is now in the final three. From the people on the jury, how many votes

does Yao Man get if he's there?

Ten.

One, two, three, four, five, six.

That is enough.

So you made a very wise decision.

And Dream, you're inadvertently, you cost, you affected three lives here.

You cost yourself a million bucks. You cost your young man a million bucks. And

you gave Earl a million.

I'm a good guy. I'm a good guy. What can I say? I'm a good guy. I'm a good guy.

What can I say, you know? Three lives is better than one.

All right, we're going to take a quick break. We are going to come back and

to Dreams, who obviously had a very big impact on this show. And we will hear

all about that and try to get to the bottom of all the decisions he's made

get to the truth.

Live reunion show right after this.

Back as a child, I was pretty much homeless because my mama started doing

And my brothers and sisters and I decided all we got is each other and

ourselves. So it makes me know that my fight is just beginning.

There's two people we can afford to lose now. I ain't pointing no finger.

There's Cassandra and Lee, right?

They let me.

I'm going to help my family when I get back.

We are back to the Survivor Fiji Live Reunion show, Dreams.

First of all, before I get to the questions I have for you, is it possible

to give perspective?

You grew up in such a different way than certainly I did and I think most of us

here tonight.

Is it possible for you to give us perspective on how that changes you

into this game and how you see this game?

You know what I'm saying? You have such a different perspective when you enter

this game.

I think it helped out a lot. I think it helped out a whole bunch because I never

had a thought in my mind of stopping because of the conditions. The

didn't really affect me.

More affected by falling into humanity, out of humanity, like trying to make

real friends, like in life, and then playing the game. So I couldn't separate

that. I couldn't, like, that's the only part that kept messing me up. So it

really did have a big effect.

So I wondered out there, especially in the beginning, if you were going to be

socially overwhelmed.

Because you hadn't maybe been in this kind of social situations as often as

other people who work in industry or Earl who works in advertising.

Were you at any point in this game thinking, I'm not sure how to act? Or

have a plan the second you got there?

I planned before I got there. And the people that didn't, I don't know where

they ended up at. But I planned before I even got there. But when I got there

and met the people, then the plans had to change. The plans have to change

accordingly who's there and who's not. But the first day I got there, I talked

to Earl.

And I said, Earl, man, we got to make it to at least the final. We actually had

a final five.

But then Earl went to Exile Island. We split up. I was like, man, if he still

remember me, me and Cassandra stuck together. We was part of the final five.

last three was part of the final five.

But the other two got eliminated before we got.

to the final five. So you're saying that from day one, every decision you made,

you knew what you were doing. You were playing the game. You weren't learning

trying to figure it out. No, that's not what I'm saying.

This is what I'm saying.

Okay, well, forget what you said. New question.

Okay, give me a new question. Were you...

In charge of everything. That's the question everybody has, Dreams, is were

making it up or did you know what you were doing? I was never in charge of

anything. If you could see, I never was in charge of anything.

So I would have to, you know what I mean, just live my way through.

But my decisions I made were so unpredictable because if I see that

plan is always going through and we all for a million dollars and only one

person getting a million dollars, if your plan going through, that means my

isn't going through.

Okay, here's my question.

Did you know exactly what you were doing?

From day one.

I don't get what you're saying.

Dreams. You know exactly what I'm saying. This, by the way, is what it was

for 39 days.

Dreams.

Let me ask Cassandra.

Was dreams flying by the seat of his pants or was dreams playing the part of

guy flying by the seat of his pants?

Dreams playing the part of a guy flying by the seat of his pants. He knew

exactly. He was very.

He was very, he thought it out. We communicated every step.

So he was a smart guy. I trusted him because we communicated very well, and

knew what people were thinking and how they would react to different situations

and scenarios.

So he would run them through his head, and then he would come back and he'd

okay, this is what I think is going to happen, and it's going to work like

And the thing that amazed me most about Dreams was this ability to really get

back in the good graces, people after having made some difficult decisions.

All right, well.

All right, I've got a couple more questions about the truck then. But

do that, there are a lot of questions around this truck negotiation and

decision not to live up to his word. But just to remind you the chain of events,

here's a quick recap.

How badly do you need that car? You know how bad I need a car, y 'all, man.

Here's the deal. When there are four of us left, if you and I happen to be one

of the four, if you win the immunity for that round, You'll give it to me.

I promise to God. You can't enforce it. It's his word. It's his word. I'll give

you my word, y 'all. I will give y 'all man the immunity necklace because I

appreciate what he did for me.

And I wouldn't want my son to not be a man of his words.

All right, Dream, you have the immunity necklace.

What are you going to do with it?

I'm going to keep it.

15th person voted out and the ninth member of our jury, y 'all man.

So, dreams.

Here's the question.

You were all over the map in terms of the show. At one point, you know, you

I swear to God, I want my son to see me live up to my word.

Later in the show, you say to Cassandra and Earl, you say, but if I do go back

in my word, better vote Yao Man out. Otherwise, it's one of you two. So

you had ideas. Here's the question. Here's a chance to be completely candid.

When you made that deal with y 'all man out there in the hot Sun you wanted that

truck Did you intend to keep your word or were you playing y 'all man from from

the get -go?

Well from the yes Okay,

when he gave me the truck I figured hey we broke me down the consequence and

everything So I tried to get rid of y 'all man, you know saying but it didn't

work So I mean I wasn't but when it didn't work I was like dad I ain't got

choice but to really

So, okay, wait, that's the dream.

This is, this is why you lasted so long because this is why Alex and Mookie and

those guys were going, ah, trust him. I don't know. I don't know if he knows.

This is what I'm going to ask. And I got to know because the whole, the whole

end of the season centered around this question for me.

When you said, yes, yeah, man, I'll live up to my word. I swear to God on my

son's life. Were you playing us and everybody?

Dreams. When you made that deal, were you going to keep it or were you

I don't know, I'll deal with it later?

I never, it was never an intentional deal to keep. I knew coming here, I knew

was playing a game and I knew that this game was lost. As you see, I never told

the truth, so I never wanted to start.

So you, just to be clear, you never intended to keep it?

I never intended to keep it. I mean, come on, we all friends, right?

Okay, now.

And did you have any second thoughts about maybe I should give the truck

Or is this, hey, he made the deal. I kept it. And then I went on my own. The

more time we spent together, me and Yao, I started talking to him. We talked

about family and stuff. And then we grew friends, like really good friends. So

as the more time grew on, my good thoughts started kicking in. And I

give him the truck. I wanted to actually do that because Yao, because he was

Yao, super Yao, you know, Yao.

But then I keep back in the game mode.

And I did it. I did the right thing. Well, I will say this for you, Dreams.

charm gets you a long way because you're able to set up many deals and go back

on them and yet still be a likable guy having talked to you as much as I have.

So somehow you pulled that off.

Earl, question for you about Dreams. And I know you're going to be honest.

Yao man is talking to you thinking, asking you, do you think he's going to

his word? And you and Cassandra said, Yao, yeah, he's going to keep his word.

Did you really think he was going to keep his word? Or were you thinking,

as well let Yao think he's going to keep his word because that only helps me if

he doesn't?

I totally thought Dreams would keep his word.

He did?

I thought he did. I thought he would.

And Dreams, the obvious question is you tell your son, hey, it's a game. You say

whatever you want. It's out without play out last, right?

Right. Okay.

Alright, well, the man who suffered... Yeah?

Cassandra, did you think... Oh, well, you told her.

Alright, enough of that. I'm moving on.

This is why tribal councils last like two and a half hours.

Well, the man who suffered the most from the betrayal of dreams was Yao Man,

clearly one of this season's most popular players.

Old people are usually the first ones to get rooted off, so I am definitely

trying to prove myself.

Now, man, pulling the evil Knievel, going way back.

This is my million dollars.

I'm about to jump off my gym here. My credo in life is love many, trust few,

wrong to none.

Yeah, man, obviously got a lot of fans here.

For the moment, sticking with the truck negotiation, this was a million -dollar

negotiation. As it got closer, did you believe, you must have believed Dreams

was going to keep his word?

Yes, I did, all the way through.

And until the very, very last minute before you asked him, that's only when I

thought to have a little inkling, maybe for him to take so long to say yes or

no.

I had my fear that, no, he may at that time change. You spent a lot of time

Dreams. What's your take on him? Were you disappointed or impressed?

I was actually quite impressed with him. I think he's a, you know, basically

he's a very smart guy, but, you know, he's totally undisciplined in his

thinking.

He has flashes of genius, but he doesn't know what to do with it. He doesn't put

it together. So, you know, things come out of his head that go, wow, he knows

what's going on. And other times, if he doesn't put it together, that can be

trained. I hope he gets some.

Your education and so on. You can go anywhere you want to.

That's actually quite a compliment.

It really is. I like that. Coming from Yao, he's the smartest man in the world.

You're really saying that you believe dreams... The thing you said at the end

was he could do anything he wanted? He can do anything he wanted. He just needs

to get himself together and get some discipline in thinking.

So, Yao man, here's the thing that really confused me about you.

You play this game strategically for 36, 37 days, 38 days, whatever it was.

And then at the last moment, you're sitting there and you do nothing to try

persuade dreams to live up to his word. Well, that's my stubborn streak, that

when I am convinced, I have difficulty convincing myself that I was wrong about

dreams. I convince myself that he will live up to his end of deal.

After I've done that, for me to at the end say, no, I was wrong, I find that,

you know, that's my...

failing that i couldn't tell myself i was wrong better make a new deal with

so because of that so your gut was telling you i need to do something about

pride and my pride and my stubbornness say i'm i'm right about him i cannot be

wrong about him and well i was wrong so

What's been the reaction on the streets? Obviously here tonight, you know, the

audience watching the show as it played back loved you. Are people coming up to

you on the streets?

Yes, quite often.

I've been recognized and they haven't come up to me and asked for autographs

so on. And it's a new feeling.

Is it a good feeling? It's a good feeling. And at first when I hear people

calling my name Yao Man on the street, I take a double take because...

It's not a common name, so when someone calls me, I look over and say, I should

know that person because he knows my name, and I go, I feel embarrassed. I

remember his name, but then I realize, oh, they know my name from the show.

All right, well, up next, love him or hate him, Rocky was certainly one of

season's most colorful characters.

We'll talk to him and one guy he did not get along with, Anthony.

That's next. And now taking us to break, our very own Survivor composers, Russ

Landau and David Vannifor.

Welcome back to the Survivor, a live CG reunion show.

Well, every season on Survivor, there's one guy that we hope will be sort of a

go -to guy that'll give us something no matter what the situation.

Without question, this season that guy was Rocky.

I'm going crazy, bro.

For some reason, Anthony, you just consistently irritate the f*** out of

You're a man.

At least the way I was raised, I gotta act like one. All I can do is try to get

people quiet up. I can lead by example.

He wanted me to take my t -shirt and hang myself from a palm tree. Bring it,

bro. Stick to this guy. Let's go, Jeff. Let's play the game. So why don't we

just call Jeff up right now on the Jeff phone and go, Hey, Jeff, we're ready to

vote somebody off today.

You know, I... I say, you know, we look for a go -to guy, and it's really true,

and it doesn't take anything away from anyone else or one way or the other, but

Rocky always delivered. You always had something to say, and you didn't

to say it.

What's the reaction when people see you? Because you're, on the show, you're

abrasive and kind of a wild card. Do they come up to you? Yeah, they come up,

you know, take a picture or something, you know, say hello, and say that I'm

the angry maniac, you know, all the time. I had a sandwich that day, and,

know, things are going all right. You know what I mean?

When you describe the show to people, what do you say? Like, how do you

this experience?

Well,

one guy that you didn't have a good time

with is conveniently sitting right to your right. Wow, that's so weird how

happened. Yeah.

Anthony clearly didn't get along with Rocky in general and sort of had a tough

go of it your whole time out there. Take a look, Anthony, at this.

I'm a nerd.

I know this. I'm a nerd, I'm a geek, I'm a dooebo, whatever the hell you want to

call it. I have been for forever.

I'm obviously the weakest person on the tribe.

And I got my work cut out for me.

Or cookies been left by the fire to tend the fire and make the water while all

the boys go out fishing.

Cinderella. Black male Cinderella.

I tried it on my face early on, and you know what? I got knocked back. You can't

give up, bro.

You can't give up. Who says I gave up? If you get knocked back, you stand back

up, and you take another knock on the mouth. You act like a little girl

sometimes, okay?

Once again. You're feminine.

No, no, no. Toughen up. This is why I don't say anything.

Keep going, man. Fight for what's yours.

Take the skirt off a little bit. Let's go.

And I don't want to start another argument between you two guys, but at

and I said this to you, Anthony, I felt that in his own twisted way, Rocky was

actually trying to nudge you to fight back a little more.

When you watched that, had to watch it again, did you see anything different,

was it just hard to watch it again?

You know, it's hard to watch it again, but really, I look at it and, you know,

yeah.

What it was for me, like watching it the second time around.

you know, this guy is hungry, he's crazy, you know, when he gets hungry and

thirsty. And for me not to fight back, it was part of my strategy. Like, I

didn't want to be confrontational, but Rocky wanted me to be confrontational,

you know, so.

Are you any different as a result of this experience?

You know, I know that I can put up with a lot more than I ever thought I ever

could, which is fine because I work with lawyers, so, you know, Alex.

Oh, yeah, Alex, you were in full lawyer mode at Final Tribal. Can you repeat

said question, please? Stop, stop, stop.

I got a question for you. In a nutshell, why did you guys trust Dreams, going

back to that, because he was betraying everybody, and I kept wondering when

come to Tribal and you guys, you and Mookie and Edgardo would still be

what was the reason?

You know, at that moment, you develop a personal relationship with somebody.

And you have to, like, go with your gut. You take a chance on everybody, right?

Everybody you trust, you only trust so far.

But dreams is our best bet given the situation.

It's just your best bet, you know? You just do what you have to do. Dreams or

Lisey.

Lisey, you know, wanted to maybe go home.

Lisey. That's what it was. The question for you, for me, is, is that you?

Because you were funny, mean, sad, happy.

Is that Lisey we saw out there you? Do you kind of live your life with your

emotions on your sleeve?

Well, I mean, yeah. You have to. What are you supposed to do? I can't do that.

That's too much work. I'm too lazy for that covering up madness.

I got to do it that way.

See?

Rock and roll, baby.

Rock and roll. I should give you a nod. You were a go -to woman as well. You

gave us a lot out there.

You took a lot of knocks out there. And by the way, for anybody that saw the

episode in which his knee popped, I give you my word that's not any sound effect

at all. And we all know who were out there.

How is your knee, by the way?

I have a torn ACL, Jeff.

Oh, you do?

Yeah.

Wow. So you're going to get it fixed?

I don't know. Maybe I'll take some of this money and get it fixed, but

not.

So you just wedged it back into place out there. I don't know what happened. I

was in pain and straightened it out. I don't think I heard it. Everyone else

heard it. I just felt pain. We heard it.

I saw it on the show.

Michelle, if it weren't for you, Ravi would still be trying to make fire. You

did something virtually nobody has done on our show.

And as one of the youngest people to ever be on this show, what does this do

you? Because if you're an older person, this could just be a fun adventure. When

you're young, does it form any lasting impression or influence your life?

Well, I mean, I think it proves that it doesn't matter how old you are. It just

matters if you have the right attitude and you know what your goal is.

And what was your goal coming in?

To win a million dollars, but after a couple twists and turns maybe, that

quite work out for me.

But we'll see.

Edgardo, you got blindsided. You know, all of a sudden you were out of the

Everything always points back to dreams, doesn't it?

Funny how that goes.

But you said something really interesting in the last episode, that

actually gave you a new appreciation.

for family back home which isn't something i would have guessed you would

from the time i spent with you is that you realize i mean you're there by

yourself and uh and you don't have any i mean you can't trust anybody and i got

really blindsided so at that time i felt homesick i was like i really want to

see my family so so that's why i said that does it really though does it

you that there are people in your life you can trust and everybody else yeah it

does it does i mean you're there by yourself i mean 39 days but it's a lot

longer than than the 39 days so so i was thinking about my family a lot all

right well up next I think it's fair to say that Survivor takes a bigger... Oh,

nice comment. I got it.

Takes a bigger physical and mental toll than anybody can imagine. And up next,

we're going to talk to Gary about being evacuated.

Plus, which of these Survivors do you think actually gained 20 pounds in

preparation for the show?

First, here's a little reminder of how tough this season was.

You're in the biggest group of losers that survivors ever seen. Fuck.

I'm skinning in homeless people right now. Are you serious? They're getting

nutrition than they die.

Water.

Crazy. What's happening here, bro?

Welcome back. The Survivor Fiji Reunion Show.

Tonight's finale was our 200th episode of Survivor, and I'm still asked by

people, are the survivors really starving? Are they really sleeping on

Are they really eating shellfish? In other words, how real is Survivor? Who

better to speak to that than Gary?

Guy had been in Vietnam and had to be evacuated because of, it was literally

thousands of fire ant bites.

The fire ants got to me the worst.

It's a tough condition. There's no way around it. I mean, you know, sometimes

it's... the question is always asked is that life changing well i don't really

want my life to change because my life is really good but it did physically

change me which i kind of had a load up on the guys you probably

had

it as tough as anybody you never got the good beach You had the immunity idol,

and then your buddy used it, and it betrayed and all that. What was the

part for you?

The worst part was probably just going to tribal council, every single tribal

council. I think almost every single tribal council, sitting there in the

always wondering if I want to be the next person to go. And, you know, thanks

dreams, you know, I eventually had that dream. I probably got blown off.

Stacey, you know, Mookie talked about the emotional part of going to tribal

worrying. We had a challenge where you took a lot of personal hits where people

said, you know, in other words, they didn't necessarily like you as much.

Same question is with Anthony. When you see that back on the show, is it harder

to watch or are you able to get some perspective when you see it?

No, I got grounded from that whole challenge. I mean,

I didn't get it changed me and my perspective on myself and other people.

turned into a positive?

Yeah. Wow.

That's a great way to take that. It could have gotten me down, but I didn't

it because I'm not like that.

Liliana, you are the person who gained 20 pounds before we came on the show

in preparation for being out there a long time, which didn't necessarily

What prompted you to gain 20?

I mean, that's a big decision, 20 pounds. Well, you know, I probably

a little bit. And I did call my mother and tell her to get cooking and create

tacos for me. But I didn't want to be medevaced out from, you know.

for being malnutritioned or anything, so I wanted reserves. So that's why I

gained weight.

And I was definitely thinking, I'm going to win this game. So I'm going to stick

it out.

I'm going to be there.

I had to lose weight after that. A couple quick questions for the people I

haven't talked to because we're running out of time. How proud are your kids of

you for being out there?

Oh, my goodness.

You want to ask them?

I think and I hope that they're very proud because they are the main reason

I did this. And as I said, you know, stick to your dream.

Don't give up.

I never gave up. I had to be voted off.

Sylvia.

Quick plug for you, because as the bossy architect, you actually have a nice

thing that's just happened. Give us that quick update.

Right. Well, a project that we designed, it's a beautiful house in Utah, has

been selected to be on a brand new show on HGTV. It's called Extreme Building,

and it's going to be showing early next year.

Congratulations. Thank you.

Erica.

Quickly, how frustrating to not get to play this game very long?

Oh, it was very frustrating.

I mean, that was the main reason I was here, because I thought I was physically

able to do it. You were. You were surprised, as were you, Jessica. Did you

any friends with only three days out there?

I did, because after I got voted out, I ended up with amazing people and bonded

for life.

Good. All right. Well, thank you, guys. All right. When we come back, we're

going to give you a sneak peek at our next location.

It's a Survivor, PG Library Union show here on CBS.

Welcome to a close. We are packing our bags and heading out for our 15th

Take a look.

This fall, Survivor leaves the tropical island setting for something completely

different.

This is China, where the modern world meshes with 5 ,000 years of

colorful history.

This is the first time a major American television program will shoot an entire

series on location in the heart of China.

The adventure will play out in the shadows of a sacred mountain on the

a remote lake in a land known for tigers, giant pandas, snow leopards, and

ancient traditions.

A new group of castaways will battle each other and the element to outwit,

outplay, and outlap.

Survivor is going to China.

Tomorrow morning on The Early Show on CBS, Earl will receive his check for $1

million. You can own a piece of Survivor Fiji by bidding on one -of -a -kind

memorabilia to benefit the Elizabeth Glazer Pediatric Foundation.

The website's on the screen now. And if you have what it takes to be on our

show, go to cbs .com for more details.

Earl has the final world.

A message to his mom. She can't hear you, but go ahead and say it. For my

mother, for Happy Mother's Day to you.

We will see you in China.

Earl just gave away half his money.

Good night.