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This programme contains
strong language and adult themes.
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We're so cute.
Previously... I'm home!
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..our newlyweds took the next step
into married life.
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Ah!
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But for some, domestic harmony...
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I won't be living in this apartment.
I need some time out.
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..was short-lived.
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It was the first dinner party
of the experiment.
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Here we are on this mad experiment
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Seeing things not in our element!
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Sarah shared her unfiltered
opinions on Dean.
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He asked me if I'd ever slept
with anyone fat before.
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He's like a Care Bear.
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Sarah's already entered the zone
of being disrespectful
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and that's something
that needs to end.
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And for Julia-Ruth and Divarni...
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The spark is definitely there.
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We're literally like yin and yang.
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..conflicting accounts
of the honeymoon...
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He said how amazing it was.
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On what planet?
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..left their marriage
hanging by a thread.
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The honeymoon was not easy.
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They've heard a different story.
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It makes no sense.
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SHE SOBS
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Tonight...
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It's the very
first commitment ceremony.
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..it's time for the couples
to face the experts.
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Can't communicate with you
and you don't listen.
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You don't back down.
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It's been difficult.
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It's been proper difficult.
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This isn't going to work.
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Tension builds as two couples clash.
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No emotional connection,
no communication.
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I thought we could build
from the wedding day.
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We're just miles apart.
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And Sarah's badmouthing...
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Do you think that you were rude
while talking about your partner?
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..catches up with her.
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This man is talking
about how lovely his partner is,
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and you are on the other side
of the room
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disrespecting him.
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It's not me. It's not who I am.
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SOBS
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That was good.
Right, now get the other one in.
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Other one. Oh!
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No. Right, put 'em down though,
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cos we're all gonna be
BLEEP orange juice.
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Can I have this piece of toast?
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That one's a bit buttery.
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Cholesterol for breakfast.
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Yesterday was a lot, wasn't it?
It was a lot.
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Yeah. Fun though.
Yeah, we had a really good time.
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I felt really confident with you
even before we saw everybody else.
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But then when we did see everyone
else
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and we saw where they were at,
I was like,
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"Oh, actually, we are super strong."
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Yeah, it's a nice feeling,
isn't it?
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I loved walking into
the dinner party with Bec.
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I love showing her off and I walked
in with a big smile on my face.
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Bailey and I are really good.
We're happy.
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We have gone from strength
to strength every day.
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We're very tactile.
Intimacy is great.
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The spark for us is flying.
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So we're going into
the commitment ceremony
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in a really strong position.
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The vibe this morning
is a little bit tense.
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After last night's dinner party,
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Divarni and I spent the night
separately.
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We had an argument.
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Compared to other couples,
I knew that we were struggling.
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It felt like, again,
we were on different pages.
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He was trying to just paint
a picture
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so no one could see
what was going on.
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He's saying it's BLEEP daisies
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It wasn't the best feeling to know
that my wife was upset.
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How I articulated our issues
was a little bit sugar-coated.
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I can admit that.
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But that's what I chose to do
because obviously we're a team.
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Thank you.
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So here we are.
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Last night was intense, wasn't it?
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Mm. Yeah, I'm sorry
about the crying.
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I wasn't planning on doing that.
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I got upset at the dinner party
yesterday from the honesty box.
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I feel a little bit embarrassed.
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Nelly, can you see yourself
falling for me?
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It's very hard for me to say.
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Yeah. That's fine. Yeah.
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Why is it so hard for you to talk
about falling for somebody?
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I think I'm so afraid of, um...
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..being so emotionally open
and vulnerable to someone.
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Like, thinking that they know
who I am and think,
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"You know what, I'm not into her."
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And then they break my heart.
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I can't with it anymore,
it's too much.
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Just a lot for week one.
Yeah, of course it is.
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It's like,
when that honesty box comes out,
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we all know what that entails.
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So very courageous of you to show
that emotion and say what you said.
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Steven's doing all the right things,
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but I still keep getting into my own
head thinking,
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"Well, does he like you?
Are you sure about that?"
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I don't want to scare him off
or give him the ick.
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And I will convince myself
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if he doesn't hold my hand
for long enough,
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it's because he's not into me.
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Even though the poor guy
probably just wants his arm back.
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He's clearly telling me
he's being truthful.
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Why can't I believe it?
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ASHLEY: Looking forward to seeing
the experts today?
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Do you think you're going
to get emotional?
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Me? I don't get emotional.
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What if they poke you
in all the right places?
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It hasn't happened for a while so...
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HE CHUCKLES
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THEY LAUGH
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Grace and I, I feel,
are in a really good place.
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We're quite, quite stable
at the moment,
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so I'm quite happy with where I am.
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Is there anything you're looking
to talk to the experts about?
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I feel like they might...
I think it could be confronting.
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I'm scared.
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I wasn't myself on honeymoon,
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and it's all been so overwhelming
and so hard.
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I don't want to do this. Sorry.
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On their wedding day...
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..Grace struggled
to find a connection with Ashley.
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I was raised like
men are the breadwinners.
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Old-school morals, basically.
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Yeah...
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And the honeymoon brought
her walls up even higher.
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OK. Is that enough now?
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Yikes.
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Oh, I'm not really feeling it.
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I feel like everything I'm doing
is wrong
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and I don't know why.
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In an effort to turn things around,
Grace finally opened up to Ashley.
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I just want to explain
the physical touch thing
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because I feel like maybe
I'm making it seem like it's you.
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I've been this way
since I was a kid.
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It's a sensation that I don't like.
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It's like skin...
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Yeah. ..but it's especially bad
when I'm a bit stressed
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and with people I don't know.
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I don't mean to project it onto you.
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I just hope I don't get upset.
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If you do feel emotional,
what is it that I'm supposed to do?
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Cos my natural reaction would be to
give you a hug if you're emotional,
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but you obviously don't...
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You're not going to want that.
So what is it I do?
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I might want that. I don't know.
Let's just see.
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Let's just cross that bridge.
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I am nervous
about seeing the experts.
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Obviously, they're going to shine
a light on all the things that,
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you know,
sometimes I avoid talking about.
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The touching, the PDA,
all of that...
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I'm the problem.
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That's how I feel, actually.
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So that's maybe why I'm nervous.
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I'm so sorry you feel sick.
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Davide is feeling really unwell.
He's so achy.
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That poor man
has got no energy whatsoever.
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How are you feeling about seeing
the experts tonight by yourself?
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Overall, I'm terrified
about going by myself
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and I don't want to go.
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I'm sure you're gonna be fine.
Yeah, I got this. Don't worry.
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But drink the honey and lemon
ginger tea when it's hot.
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It does nothing now it's cold.
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A little bit worried
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about walking into my first ceremony
without him,
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but I think we're really strong,
so it should be fine.
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First commitment ceremony today.
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What do you think they're gonna say
to us?
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I don't really know.
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From here, shit gets deeper,
doesn't it?
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I want the experts to tell us
where we're going wrong.
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We're just not there yet,
in terms of the romantic connection.
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It's more than friends,
but at the same time,
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she doesn't want to rip
my clothes off.
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I said, "You just need to let your
wall down a little bit more."
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Like, I'm trying.
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I'm being way more open
and vulnerable than I ever would
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in any situation.
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The thing is,
mine's not by choice.
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That vulnerability or, like,
moving to that next stage with you
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is just not coming naturally.
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And it's not like something
that I'm choosing to do,
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and it sounds so shallow.
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I think this whole narrative
of like,
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oh, you're not my typical type
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so like I'm struggling
to feel the romance.
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It's not just about, like,
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you don't have an undercut,
you know what I mean?
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Me having my walls up
isn't by choice.
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Like, it's not something
I'm in control of.
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Like, I feel like I'm blocked off
and I can't unblock.
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It's just, like,
how do I let these walls down?
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But at the same time,
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I think I'm more willing
to try and get the wall down.
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There's a big decision
to make today.
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I'm trying to be open
and vulnerable,
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but I've had my walls up
for so long, it's going to be
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really hard to change
and let my guard down.
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I'm trying to, like, give it my all
and be completely open.
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And initially,
that attraction wasn't there.
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So I'm intrigued to see
what the experts advice is
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and what they think is beneficial
for us to do moving forward.
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JOE COUGHS
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MAEVE: Are you still feeling shit?
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Yeah, I feel terrible, to be honest.
I feel like crap.
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Joe was feeling poorly,
so I don't know
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if he's going to be able to attend
the commitment ceremony.
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I'm nervous, you know.
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Obviously, like,
it's a commitment ceremony
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and I hate feelings,
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so I'm guessing we're going
to be talking about
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how we feel about each other.
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Joe was expressing some feelings
towards us at the dinner party.
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I feel exactly the same way.
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I'm just not very good
at showing it.
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But I'm obviously going to tell
the experts that I really like Joe
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because I can't stop smiling
when I talk about him.
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Feeling a little bit disappointed.
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I came away from the dinner party
feeling the same about Paul
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as I did going in.
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I agree with Rebecca
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saying that Paul and I
was one of the weakest couples.
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I'm struggling
with the emotional connection.
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Whatever decision I make today
is very important.
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I entered this experiment
to find love,
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so I'd be gutted
to walk away without it.
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I'm 100% needy of the experts.
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PAUL: I care very much about Anita,
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but opening up
about my emotional feelings
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has always been a struggle for me.
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My coping mechanism is to put
a barrier up,
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and I think that's something
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that Anita's found hard
to break down.
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I'm not too empathetic
towards her feelings maybe.
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It's something I need to improve on.
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Anita has compassion and patience.
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I'm hoping she stays around
long enough,
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and we work together to build
the marriage going forward.
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I have no idea what Anita stands.
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I have no idea if she's going
to stay or leave.
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What do you think about
Sarah and Dean?
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He hasn't said much but I know
obviously she said bits to you.
251
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Oh, she did say she got the ick.
252
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Did she? Like, the proper ick.
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That's a bit of a sad one,
to be fair,
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cos he's such a nice lad.
255
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She said there's no physical
attraction there for at all.
256
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Yeah. There's nothing sexual
for her.
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Last night, it was harder
than I thought it was going to be.
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Yeah, definitely.
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It's hard to see everyone as well,
like, be lovey-dovey. Mm-hm.
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Cos I'm the guy, like,
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"Comparison is the thief of joy.
I'm not going to compare."
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But, yeah, there was definitely
a feeling...
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A lot of feelings yesterday.
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You can't help that.
No. I won't, but yeah.
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I'd obviously said that
I probably would compare.
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It obviously would be
the attraction thing
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which is, for me, the hardest bit.
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And last night was
emotional at points,
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so I think, yeah,
today will be the same.
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Last night's dinner party has given
me a little bit of a wake-up call.
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Mine and Dean's relationship
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is not where I would have imagined
it to be.
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It is quite hard to see
other couples
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being quite all over each other,
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and Dean and I aren't like that.
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And I think that's making me feel
very emotional.
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I'm nervous about it as well,
278
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cos it's kind of putting
everything out there, innit,
279
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and it is so intense.
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It's only going to get intenser.
281
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If we're honest,
it can kind of only help.
282
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I like Sarah.
I'm optimistic she'll say stay.
283
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There is reasons
that we are matched.
284
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We're both here to kind of
try and make it work.
285
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So yeah, I'm confident
that she'll stay.
286
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We're all wanting to get somewhere
within this experiment. Yeah.
287
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We're both where we are
and we're like,
288
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"Yeah, we need help."
And that's what they're there for.
289
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So hopefully...
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I don't know what the experts could
do to help get that spark.
291
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Looking at the other couples
and feeling that, like, you know,
292
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sexual energy and sexual spark.
293
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I mean, it was like flying through
the room at one point.
294
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I genuinely just don't know
if we're going to get to it.
295
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Today is the very first
commitment ceremony
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and we are so excited
to start your journeys with you.
297
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This is where the hard work begins.
298
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It's imperative that all of you
commit to being honest and open.
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Honesty is the key to the success
of your marriages.
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You're all here to make
a very important decision -
301
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whether to stay
or leave the experiment.
302
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A couple can only leave the
experiment if both write leave.
303
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If just one person wants to stay,
304
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then the couple must stay
in the experiment
305
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and continue
to work on their marriage.
306
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Now, Davide and Joe
cannot be here today due to illness,
307
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but for the rest of you,
let's all get down to business.
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Our first couple up to the couch
tonight is Grace and Ashley.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Come and join us, you two.
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Hello. Hello.
312
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Why don't you take us back
to the wedding day?
313
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Grace, how did you feel
leading up to the ceremony?
314
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I don't really know
what I was expecting.
315
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I certainly didn't expect it
to hit me
316
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like a tonne of bricks
that it did.
317
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I think I just panicked.
318
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I was, like, I was frustrated
with myself
319
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and, like, berating myself.
320
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And I took myself
on a downward spiral.
321
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Later, there was talk
of Ash's traditional values
322
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and being an old-school gentleman
323
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and I didn't really know
what that meant.
324
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I loved being an independent woman
and I just thought,
325
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"It's dead in the water
before it even starts."
326
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How did that feel for you, Ashley?
327
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It was like a deer in headlights
328
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when sort of Grace was feeling
the way she was.
329
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So that kind of made me spiral
a little bit,
330
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because I said from the very
beginning
331
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I wanted to be unapologetically me.
332
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That's really hard to do
333
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when you're the reason
she's feeling like she is.
334
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It's about terminology, isn't it?
Yeah.
335
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Grace hears, "Old-school gent,"
336
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and she thinks,
"I'm not a tradwife."
337
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Yeah.
338
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I had no idea
it would even be taken that way.
339
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So it completely
kind of wiped me off my feet
340
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because I just wasn't expecting it.
341
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It sounds like
that was quite difficult for you.
342
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And then you went on honeymoon.
343
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On the honeymoon, OK,
so for the first couple of days,
344
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I'm feeling upset.
345
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Everything made me on the brink
of tears.
346
00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,000
I'm not the most
touchy-feely person.
347
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And in this moment
when I was feeling so overwhelmed
348
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and so stressed and so anxious,
so vulnerable,
349
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that not wanting to be
touchy-feely...
350
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..it became a huge deal.
351
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And Ash, in wanting
to make me feel better, is like,
352
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"Are you OK? Are you all right?"
353
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And I was like...
354
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It was making me like more and more
and more inside myself.
355
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I was struggling.
356
00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,000
Ash, how was that experience
for you?
357
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If someone's feeling down,
I try and make it better.
358
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Cos the way I flirt,
I was always like,
359
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if someone likes you,
they're touching you more.
360
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So I always thought touch was good
361
00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,240
and, like, let them know
that you like them,
362
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but that wasn't what she wanted
or needed
363
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and I was kind of making it worse.
364
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Grace, are you able to direct your
own insight back to yourself here
365
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on this one and see where
that lack of comfort
366
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with all the touching comes from?
367
00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,400
I don't know anyone else like me.
368
00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,680
I don't know anyone else
369
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that doesn't really like the feeling
of like skin on skin.
370
00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,240
But I do function as an adult.
Like, I'm a midwife.
371
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I rub people's backs,
I hold people's hands.
372
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But this experiment...
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OK.
374
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You're doing great.
Come on, you're doing really good.
375
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..is confronting
because for me it's normal.
376
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I've always been this way.
377
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But then, looking at everyone else
finding it so easy, so natural,
378
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you do start to feel
like a bit of a freak.
379
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And you're like...
380
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And it's made me question,
"What was I thinking?
381
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"Why did I think I could
come into this?"
382
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What did I? Like, it makes me think,
like, what a bizarre thing to do.
383
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PAUL: Or maybe it's a brave thing
to do.
384
00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,480
Yeah. OK. Thanks, Paul.
385
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LAUGHTER
386
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You know, we all have different
levels of comfort with touch.
387
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And I think what's important here
is the two of you can start talking
388
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about what those boundaries are.
389
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On this point,
when you both sat here on the couch,
390
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you, Grace,
you were feeling emotional.
391
00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,880
Yeah. So Ashley literally...
392
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I just saw him put his hand out
like this,
393
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and he went to touch you,
and he was like,
394
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"Uh-oh, I better not do this.
I better not do this here."
395
00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,360
Then he goes... It's one of those,
"Oh yeah. Cool, babe."
396
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And I felt for you in that moment.
397
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Yeah.
398
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But I think it's also important
for you, Ashley,
399
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to be able to say,
400
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"I'm here for you in this moment."
401
00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,120
Right? That's right,
to do it verbally.
402
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,520
To do it verbally. Yeah.
403
00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,520
I'm very verbal as a person anyway.
404
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,360
If I feel a certain way
or I'm upset with something,
405
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I just come straight out and say it.
406
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,680
So hopefully we can sort of
just keep going like that.
407
00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,800
So where would you say
you guys ended up
408
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at the end of the honeymoon
compared with where you started?
409
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Full 180.
410
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,680
Tell us about that.
411
00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,840
We just agreed that we couldn't
just be strangers
412
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and then husband and wife, like,
there had to be friendship first.
413
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Then it was fun. I was cracking up.
I was laughing so much.
414
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,440
I made a conscious effort
when I did feel in a good place,
415
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like, to try and be
more affectionate.
416
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,400
And then I can see
that she's making a big effort
417
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,000
and I really appreciate it.
418
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,000
And hopefully she sees the same
with the way I'm saying things...
419
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,120
I do. ..and sort of that.
420
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Yeah.
421
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,280
It's quite remarkable, I think,
how much progress
422
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the two of you have made.
423
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,480
Ashley, you're showing such patience
with this woman you've just met
424
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who's showing behaviours
that you don't quite understand.
425
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,720
And for you, Grace, you
are showing incredible bravery.
426
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,200
Yeah. Because you're doing things
so differently
427
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from how you've done them before.
428
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So I think it's brilliant
429
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that the two of you have come
so far already.
430
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I think we're going to go to
a decision.
431
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,480
Let's start with you first, Ashley.
432
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So I honestly feel like
we've come so, so far
433
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and I can't wait to see
how far we can take this
434
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and I'm really excited
to do the rest of this experiment
435
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and see where we go.
436
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,160
So I voted to stay.
437
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Brilliant.
438
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
439
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,200
Good job!
440
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,680
And to you, Grace?
441
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,280
I feel really lucky
442
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,280
that I got partnered with someone
so patient,
443
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,680
so tolerant, so willing to learn,
so open-minded.
444
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,480
I'm happy to be here.
And I'm glad that it's with you.
445
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So, yeah, I'm gonna stay.
446
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Ah.
447
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
448
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,280
Thank you so much.
449
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,840
This is a really positive journey
that you've taken so far.
450
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,680
Keep doing what you're doing, guys.
You're off to a good start.
451
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,680
Thank you so much. Thanks, guys.
Take a seat.
452
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Well done.
453
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
454
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All right, next up to the couch...
455
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If we can have
Julia-Ruth and Divarni.
456
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Come on up.
457
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APPLAUSE
458
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Welcome.
459
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,080
Hello! Hi.
Welcome. How are we doing?
460
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Good. Good.
461
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,960
It is so good for you both
to be here
462
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,080
because I have so many questions.
463
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,160
Can we start with the wedding?
464
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,520
Oh my God.
465
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,640
Magical. It was wild.
466
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,200
Best wedding ever, I'm not gonna
lie. Best wedding ever.
467
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,720
The vibes were up there.
So much fun.
468
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,720
It was just like, damn,
this person actually exists.
469
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,120
I was stupid excited
and I'm still excited.
470
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,200
Just the true beauty that I saw
in her at the beginning
471
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threw me off.
472
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,920
That's big. Yeah.
473
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,280
And then I'm laughing
and I'm snorting and I'm giggling.
474
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,640
It was a lot of emotions.
It was really great.
475
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,560
The energy was so good.
We were vibing. Yeah.
476
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All right, next day
we go on honeymoon.
477
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,640
Yes. Honeymoon was?
478
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,560
Started off great.
479
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,920
Started off good?
480
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Go on.
481
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,480
I think the... We arrived in Morocco
and that was when it hit me.
482
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"OK, I'm married."
483
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,800
So I did, like,
kind of feel overwhelmed.
484
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,840
And I'm trying to find
some joyous moments
485
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,240
for us to build some sort of,
like, emotional connection.
486
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,040
Can you explain that?
487
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,520
The physical didn't come naturally,
so I'm like,
488
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,840
let's build the...
489
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,680
We're having so much fun
and we're laughing
490
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,000
that, like, maybe that comes
that way,
491
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,920
but everything is really heavy
and deep.
492
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,440
It's always intense.
493
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,280
Can you give an example for us?
Yeah.
494
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,920
So we were on the camels
and I asked you,
495
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"What is your biggest fear?"
496
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:35,320
And then you spiralled
497
00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:38,080
into the deepest conversation
I've ever had in my life,
498
00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:39,360
which was shocking.
499
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,600
You went on and you were like,
500
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,960
"It's always just been me.
Always end up in these situations
501
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,400
"No one's ever gonna love me
It's always gonna be me by myself."
502
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,720
It was all this dark stuff and I'm
sitting there and I'm like, "Bro..."
503
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,360
Can I ask...
Can I ask you a question, though?
504
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,400
Yeah.
505
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,160
You've just asked
about his deepest fear.
506
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,840
Fears are dark.
507
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,920
I know that fear is a big word,
508
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,320
but I'm feeling overwhelmed
by the amount of information
509
00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:07,400
that is being dumped onto me
continuously.
510
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,120
It feels like trauma dumping.
511
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,440
We talk about deep stuff so much.
512
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,840
There's inappropriate times
513
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,400
where I just feel like
I want to have fun with you.
514
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,640
Divarni, in that moment,
515
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,800
how did you interpret
what was happening?
516
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,240
Answering that question
was very personal to me, for sure,
517
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,960
but it was just me opening up
at that moment,
518
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,480
and I just expressed myself
the way I needed to express myself.
519
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,360
Divarni, do you feel clear
520
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,800
when the right time is to talk
in a deep way
521
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,800
and when to kind of
have a bit of fun?
522
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,160
Do you feel clear in terms of
what Julia-Ruth wants from you?
523
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,200
Sometimes when I communicate,
it can go on and on and on and on.
524
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,640
It's just finding that balance of
choosing a part of that information.
525
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,560
I mean, maybe I can pick it up
and then feed it another time.
526
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,960
Right, right.
527
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,240
All right.
Vital information missed.
528
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,240
Obviously, had the argument
after the camels and it erupted.
529
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,680
Divarni's heightened
and jittery and upset.
530
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,480
And I don't like
how you handled that situation.
531
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,280
You don't back down,
you get more intense,
532
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,960
and you're going at me.
533
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,840
And you did that last night
after the dinner party, too,
534
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,760
and I'm like, "Whoa!"
535
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,760
Like, "OK, this isn't gonna work."
536
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,200
I needed to get things off my chest.
537
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,240
Would you agree, though,
it was explosive?
538
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,640
It was a bit explosive. Yeah.
539
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,040
OK, so that is a major detail.
540
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,720
So we have two issues
541
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,920
of poor communication
that happens on the honeymoon
542
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,280
and, Julia-Ruth,
what you're telling me
543
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,960
is that there's many of these.
544
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,040
So, honeymoon, not so good.
545
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,960
You come back,
you move in to the apartment.
546
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,240
How did you feel about your marriage
547
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,320
when you walked
into the dinner party?
548
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,640
We sat down and had a conversation
549
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,480
and we said, "We're going to be on
the same page at the dinner party."
550
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,600
So, like, if we're getting asked
the questions by people,
551
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,240
"How has your time been?"
552
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,400
The wedding was great.
553
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,840
It's been good
and it's been really bad.
554
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,000
For sure.
555
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,280
But I sit down and talk to people
556
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,360
and then when I tell them how
the relationship's going,
557
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,400
they were like,
"Oh, that's not what I've heard."
558
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,960
And I'm like, "What do you mean
that's not what you've heard?"
559
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,640
It's been, "You've been really good.
Like, smooth sailing."
560
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,800
So I was very confused
561
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,400
because I go around looking
like a dickhead
562
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,440
saying that our relationship's
been turbulent
563
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,800
and he's saying it's been a hiccup.
Fine.
564
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,240
OK.
565
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,160
That's not even remotely close
to what's been going on
566
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,440
in our relationship.
567
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,960
I know that obviously
we went through our shit,
568
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,560
but I was going into
the dinner party hopeful.
569
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,040
You know, I'm curious.
570
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,480
You mentioned there was an argument
last night.
571
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,680
What happened
after the dinner party?
572
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,840
Coming back to the apartment,
I did confront her,
573
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,640
and I was just
getting things off my chest.
574
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,440
You always say you're
getting things off your chest
575
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,760
and it's not fun
because you attack me.
576
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,720
I want us to have the space
so we don't yell at each other.
577
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,000
And that's why I say,
578
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,280
"Go and breathe and come back
to me when you
can talk to me like a person."
579
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,840
You don't talk to me like a person
You go at me.
580
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,440
You don't listen to me. I'm like,
"Should I go to another room?"
581
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,080
And you're going at me.
582
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,880
OK, well, then,
I'm gonna go to another room.
583
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,840
And you get more intense
and more intense and more intense.
584
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,120
You get so heightened,
and I can't communicate with you.
585
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,440
I don't like that.
586
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,680
You get more intense
and more intense and more intense.
587
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,000
You get so heightened
and I can't communicate with you.
588
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,280
I don't like that.
589
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,440
You know what's so interesting
about you two?
590
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,920
You're the most hot and cold couple
in this experiment.
591
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,200
Wedding - Oh, my gosh.
592
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,560
Ten...ten wedding,
I can't believe it.
593
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,920
By the next day, it's like
594
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,720
I don't even know if I want to be
with this person, right?
595
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,160
So what do you want
from this relationship?
596
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,080
So what I want is a companion.
597
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:19,680
Someone that's very supportive.
598
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,200
Someone that understands me
in a whole entirety.
599
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,880
Obviously, having fun.
That's what I'm looking for.
600
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,440
OK. And you still want
that in Julia-Ruth?
601
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,680
Yes. OK.
602
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,920
Julia-Ruth, what do you want?
603
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,400
I want someone
who's going to go 50-50
604
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,320
or 60-40 at different times
with me in terms of energy.
605
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,040
I don't mind being there for you.
606
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,440
I don't mind you unloading to me.
607
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,200
If anyone, I feel like I've got you.
608
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,960
Let's also enjoy each other.
609
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,520
I want to have that feeling of like
610
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,240
we're laughing so hard that
the physical intimacy kicks off.
611
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,600
We don't have that.
612
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,400
And that's what I said, like,
coming back to the apartment.
613
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,640
I'm very excited because
then I can take you out on dates
614
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,800
and actually have those memorable
moments of actually having fun.
615
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,960
That's why coming and moving into
the apartment was a thrill.
616
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,640
The other thing, Divarni, too
617
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,840
is I think
what's very important,
618
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,240
and I hear Julia-Ruth wanting
as well,
619
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,840
is for you to listen.
620
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,480
Sometimes listening means
621
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,360
I'm going to take a cool-off period.
622
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,960
And then during that period,
623
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,080
reflecting upon what your partner
said, what your partner feels,
624
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:25,680
what their emotion is.
625
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,480
So, therefore, you're coming back
in a position
626
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,520
where you can actually
resolve the conflict.
627
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,960
You know, I have hope.
628
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,440
Ultimately, you know what you both
said?
629
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,720
You want to have someone
who will support you
630
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,800
and I think that's the place
to remain focussed on -
631
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,080
be each other's support. OK?
632
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,320
Can we go to a decision?
633
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,960
Divarni, why don't you take us away?
634
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,240
Julia-Ruth, it's been difficult.
635
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,080
It's been proper difficult
throughout this honeymoon.
636
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,480
But obviously I'm here for a reason.
637
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,840
And I do believe in us.
638
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,680
So my actual decision
639
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,800
is for me to stay.
640
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,040
APPLAUSE
641
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,040
Um...
642
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,960
For me, it's tricky.
643
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,040
The vibes on the wedding day
were unreal.
644
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,520
I just haven't seen you
let your hair loose
645
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,520
and just have a fun,
light-hearted conversation
646
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,960
and just have giggles with me
and create fun memories.
647
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,040
I don't need everything
to be picked apart and to be deep.
648
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,240
We do have some good moments
649
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,400
and I don't like spending time
away from you because I miss you.
650
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,600
So I think I have chosen to stay.
651
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,720
APPLAUSE
652
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,360
All right. Done.
Done. Thank you.
653
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,320
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
654
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,680
I think it's going to take a lot
of work for Divarni and I
655
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,760
to fix and restart
or mend our relationship.
656
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,160
I hold on to, so dearly,
the moments from the wedding.
657
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,480
I want to stay because I'm fighting
for those moments.
658
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,760
I've shared how I felt
659
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,160
and I think it's now up to him
how he processes the information.
660
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,600
Next up to the couch...
661
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,120
..Rebecca and Bailey.
662
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,360
APPLAUSE
663
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,480
Hello. Hello. Hello. Hi.
664
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,160
Good to see the two of you.
Thank you.
665
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,080
Looking extremely comfortable
with one another.
666
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,800
I'm absolutely loving this.
667
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,920
OK. So I'm super keen to hear
about your wedding.
668
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,680
Kind of a roller coaster. OK.
669
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,480
Initial reaction
turning round around - stunning.
670
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,720
Absolutely gorgeous.
671
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,640
I feel like the only thing I just
couldn't catch a vibe, I feel like.
672
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,040
I was a bit thrown by it.
Yeah. I was just...
673
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,120
And then throughout the day,
674
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,840
it kind of just followed on that
path for me,
675
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,640
just up and down like a yo-yo.
676
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,120
So it sounds like you were trying
to work out, "What is she feeling?"
677
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,680
Yeah. And, Rebecca, what
was the experience like for you?
678
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,400
I think I had in my mind
679
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,840
I would get to the end of the aisle
680
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,000
and there would be massive
sparks flying,
681
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,840
because that's what I'm used to.
682
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,560
Like, that initial big attraction.
683
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,880
And we didn't have that.
684
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,680
I know that for you it's really
important to have someone
685
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,800
that is very much an alpha male.
686
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,760
And that was something
that was quite difficult for you.
687
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,560
On the wedding day,
I struggled with that
688
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,720
because I couldn't see like
the real Bailey.
689
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,480
And I was like
"Oh, my God, is he...?"
690
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,480
You know,
"Am I going to eat him alive?"
691
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,960
And that made me go into my shell.
692
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,680
I was crying through the vows.
I was very overwhelmed.
693
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,640
Take me to the honeymoon.
694
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,400
Did that get any better?
695
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,360
It changed everything.
696
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,080
We really, really got on.
697
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,440
Yeah, we started talking, laughing.
Tables started turning.
698
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,400
I saw him for who he was,
and I thought,
699
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,240
"Wow, I can really connect
with this person."
700
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,320
You called me a golden retriever.
Yeah.
701
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,520
He's got golden retriever energy.
702
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,000
I've got black cat energy.
I'll take that.
703
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,520
Yeah, we match so well in that way.
704
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,000
So we started to have a little bit
of a giggle, like, yeah,
705
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,040
a little bit of laugh, which I like.
I can connect over.
706
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,360
Bailey is who he is
through and through.
707
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,840
He doesn't put on a show
or anything like that.
708
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,560
He's the definition
of an alpha man. 100%.
709
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,080
He knows how to look after me
710
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,880
whilst allowing me
to just completely be myself.
711
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,800
I go to the gym,
I can carry my bags,
712
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,600
can do things for myself.
713
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,520
Bailey takes away anything
that he can do,
714
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,480
while still making me feel
that I'm capable.
715
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,160
I do like to do the little things,
716
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,800
like going up to the bar
and getting a drink,
717
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,960
carrying your bags, little...
718
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,920
Just little things.
They're only small.
719
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,000
But because she was super
independent,
720
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,520
"I can do everything on my own,"
721
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,960
it kind of felt better
when she put that trust into me
722
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,040
and kind of relinquished
723
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,360
a little bit of that independence
that she has, was nice.
724
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,840
You say that they're small things
725
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,840
but it sounds like they're
small things with a big meaning.
726
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,440
Yeah. And it's not just, like,
little acts of service like that.
727
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,800
It's the little glances across
the room.
728
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,120
Or like the, "Are you OK?"
729
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,760
And that I do it back to him, like,
there is a real connection there.
730
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,320
Yeah.
731
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,680
Well, I think that helps me
to kind of neatly go on
732
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,520
to the next question
around intimacy.
733
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,080
So how are things going in
the intimacy department?
734
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,800
BOTH LAUGH
735
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,040
Like Cheshire cats.
736
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,360
Um, yeah. All good. Yeah.
Really good.
737
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,360
Yeah. Um, very well-matched
in that department.
738
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,280
Um, so no complaints.
739
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,840
I can't stop smiling. Yeah.
740
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,440
Rebecca, do you want to help him
here?
741
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,520
No.
LAUGHS
742
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,000
I'm sweating here, in't I?
743
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,840
No, everything's good
on that front. Yeah, great.
744
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,080
Well, I am so excited
with this union,
745
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,760
and it's just so nice to see
the physical affection
746
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,280
between the two of you.
747
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,040
The way you have each other's back.
748
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,360
Yeah. We're constantly
laughing and joking at home.
749
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,920
Loads of fun. I mean, I asked for,
like, a little bestie,
750
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,760
and that's just what I've got.
751
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,440
Yeah, it's a good feeling.
It's... It feels secure.
752
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,920
So let's go to the decisions.
753
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,000
If we can start with you, Rebecca.
754
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,320
From our wedding day, this is...
755
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,920
I never ever, expected to be
in this position now.
756
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,880
I think more than anything,
I just love how you make me feel.
757
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,640
Yeah. So it's an easy one for me.
758
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,200
It's a stay.
759
00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:31,920
APPLAUSE
760
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,520
Thank you, Rebecca.
And, Bailey, what's your decision?
761
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,080
I'm really enjoying
just getting to know you.
762
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,920
I love just spending time
with you at home,
763
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,560
and I'm looking forward
to that carrying on.
764
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,960
So I've decided to...
765
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,680
I'm upside down. ..stay.
766
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:48,240
APPLAUSE
767
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,080
So Rebecca and Bailey,
the couple to watch.
768
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,560
I'm excited. Oh gosh!
769
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,120
Look forward to seeing you
next week.
770
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,760
Really appreciate it. Cheers.
Thank you.
771
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,840
APPLAUSE
772
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,200
Next up to the couch...
773
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,920
..Sarah and Dean.
774
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,800
Hello. Hello. Hello there.
775
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,200
So how are we both?
776
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:25,440
Yeah, nervous. Nervous?
I'm nervous. Are you?
777
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,320
Yeah, I'm good. Oh, you're good?
That's good. All good.
778
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,600
OK, so can we go to the wedding?
779
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,800
Mm-hm.
780
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,720
So the moment you saw Sarah,
781
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,000
what did you think?
782
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,680
Seeing her, I thought
the energy's here and I was like...
783
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:41,280
She's a beautiful girl as well.
784
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,160
And I was like,
"Yeah, this is good."
785
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,640
You would say
physically attractive - check?
786
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Yeah, yeah. Definitely.
Sexually attractive?
787
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,640
Yeah, I guess... I thought,
"I could have sex with her."
788
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,640
ALL LAUGH
789
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,880
OK.
790
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,560
But it's important to know
791
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,440
because there is a distinction
between the two.
792
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,720
Yeah, yeah. So, OK, Sarah,
793
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,720
how did you feel
going in to the wedding?
794
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,080
I was very nervous,
795
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,880
and I think I had envisioned
in my head
796
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,000
who was going to be at the end
of the aisle.
797
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,320
And what was that vision?
798
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,680
OK, so I'll be honest. Yeah.
799
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:17,560
Yeah. Um...
800
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,720
Tall.
801
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,680
I love tattoos,
so covered in tattoos.
802
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,760
Probably look like they've
just come out of jail,
803
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,600
I'm not gonna lie.
804
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,320
Because that was your "type"?
805
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:32,760
OK. What else?
806
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,520
I mean, I do also like a guy that's,
like, into fitness and gym.
807
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,640
So, yeah. I mean, maybe...
808
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,040
..physical as well...
809
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,520
..it wasn't what I thought
it was going to be.
810
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,920
OK.
811
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,560
I don't want to hurt your feelings.
I'm really sorry. No, no.
812
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,120
Yeah, it's got to be honest,
I promise.
813
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,280
You're not gonna hurt my feelings.
814
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,680
Dean, are you OK?
815
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:59,400
Literally fine.
It's so good It's so good.
816
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,480
OK.
817
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,520
It was an honest start.
We appreciate that.
818
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:07,720
So let's move to the honeymoon.
819
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,920
Yeah, it was hard. I had a, like,
a wobble
820
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,160
cos I sing a lot and, um,
I was like,
821
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,080
"It can get a little bit grating,
yeah?"
822
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,320
And you was like,
"Yeah, it's a bit..." Yeah.
823
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,240
It was just a lot
of random outbursts of singing.
824
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,000
It was getting just a little bit...
825
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,800
I was like, "I'm getting...
I'm getting irritated by this."
826
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,520
OK. Cos I don't really like
showing my emotions too much.
827
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,280
But if you listen to the song
I'm singing,
828
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,560
that's how I'm feeling.
829
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,160
So I'll be singing like a sad song.
830
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,800
And if you listen to the words,
I'm like, that's how I'm feeling.
831
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,280
So are you saying that
you were sad during the honeymoon?
832
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,280
Uh, yeah. Well, I was at a point.
833
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,480
We had a meal and we was talking,
834
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,800
and I reverted back to, like,
835
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,840
the little fat kid at school
who's trying to fit in, you know?
836
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,120
I've not been that so long because
I've built myself up so much.
837
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,080
I guess doubts, you know,
started coming in
838
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,760
and I was like, "Oh, man, I don't...
I don't like this."
839
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,040
And that was a real low.
840
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,000
And that's when
I spoke to Sarah about it.
841
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,160
That's when I was like,
842
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,680
"Let's just enjoy
getting to know each other."
843
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:07,080
You know what's interesting?
844
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,920
I think when there
are painful moments,
845
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,320
we try to go past them quickly.
846
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,880
Yeah, probably, man.
847
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,160
You just said something
848
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,960
that touches upon
a moment in childhood.
849
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,760
Yeah. Let's give that respect.
850
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,560
I felt like what?
The fat kid, like back at school.
851
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,840
And what made you feel that way?
852
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,800
Probably feeling, like,
in all honesty,
853
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,680
a bit of rejection.
854
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,480
You know?
And not feeling like I was enough.
855
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,640
And what was it that made you feel
856
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,040
like you were rejected
and not enough?
857
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,520
The physical attraction thing
is something that
858
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,680
kind of, I guess,
hits me more than I think it does.
859
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:47,840
Yeah, it put my defences up,
860
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,160
you know, like,
that I didn't like it.
861
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,240
Yeah.
862
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,320
So when you both leave
the honeymoon,
863
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,680
are you at all optimistic
about your marriage?
864
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:03,160
I was stupid cos, like,
we get on so well
865
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,880
and we're always having
a great time,
866
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,640
and there's no one else
I'd rather be with in this.
867
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,880
For me, I was like,
"Yeah, this could be like..."
868
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,400
This could be something.
Yeah. Yeah. 100%.
869
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,920
So were you optimistic at all,
Sarah?
870
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,520
I was optimistic.
871
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,560
We have been matched for a reason
and I can see why.
872
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,240
I think my problem is people I've
dated or been with,
873
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,120
I've always had
that initial attraction.
874
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,040
I've always wanted to rip
their clothes off and just eat them.
875
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,800
Just... Do you know that feeling?
876
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,120
And I'm really struggling
because I don't have that with Dean,
877
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,200
but then I've got everything else.
878
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,000
You wanted someone
who was going to be funny.
879
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,840
You wanted someone who could be
a support system for you.
880
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,080
So, Sarah, you feel as if
Dean is everything that you need?
881
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,360
Oh, that's what I said. I said,
882
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,480
"I'm the husband you need,
not the one you want."
883
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,280
And I don't want him to change.
Like, I...
884
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,360
You know, the singing
and the rapping, it did irritate me.
885
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,640
It did. I mean, the raps
and the songs sort of stopped.
886
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,680
So he's receptive
to modifying his behaviour?
887
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:06,360
Yeah.
888
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,880
So what behaviour are you modifying?
889
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:15,360
Is there any modification
that you think that you need?
890
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,320
I don't know.
891
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,480
You feel like you're good?
892
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,000
You're doing everything
appropriately?
893
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,520
I feel like I'm...
I feel like I'm doing everything OK.
894
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,120
I think the communication
is great.
895
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,960
I think the honesty is great
as well.
896
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,040
You're giving it everything,
and that's all I wanted.
897
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,520
Dean, what we've seen here
898
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,240
is you kind of rescuing Sarah
in this.
899
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,680
That says a lot about you
900
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:37,200
in terms of the kind-hearted person
that you are.
901
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:38,680
But I think at the moment,
902
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:43,240
it feels a little bit like, Dean,
you're willing to modify behaviour,
903
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,360
you're willing to reel
in the singing a little bit
904
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,040
and the rapping,
905
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,440
but what we're asking, Sara,
is what are you willing to do?
906
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,680
What are you willing to change?
907
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:53,760
I don't know.
908
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,120
So I've got something for you.
909
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,880
Oh, God. OK.
910
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,480
You could begin by stopping
the disrespect of your husband.
911
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,440
Let me take you to the dinner party.
912
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,640
OK.
913
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,320
Someone disrespects you,
what are they doing?
914
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,560
Well, they're being rude.
915
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,160
They're being rude. What else?
They're being mean.
916
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,240
Do you think that you were rude
917
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,480
while talking about your partner
at the dinner party?
918
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,200
Oh, it's gonna kill him, this.
919
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:33,400
I mean, I may be sad you'd given me
the ick
920
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,320
with some things that you'd said.
921
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,360
So in other words,
you disrespected your husband.
922
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,440
I get the challenge
around physical attraction,
923
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,400
but where you absolutely lost me
924
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,600
is when you went around
gossiping about your husband
925
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,880
to other people,
and you were laughing at it.
926
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,520
Was I? I was a joke.
I didn't mean to laugh.
927
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,880
Well, you were. OK. And I thought,
928
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,160
"This man is talking
about how lovely his partner is
929
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,520
"and you are on the other side
of the room disrespecting him."
930
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,160
I don't think I did it that much,
did I?
931
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,400
You know what? Disrespect...
I know, I know.
932
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,080
..one iota of disrespect
is too much.
933
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:31,200
You are on the other side
of the room disrespecting him.
934
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,960
I don't think I did it that much,
did I?
935
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,360
You know what? Disrespect...
I know, I know.
936
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,760
..one iota of disrespect
is too much.
937
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,040
I'm so sorry.
938
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,160
I'm sorry.
939
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,560
These relationships
are a two-way street.
940
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,080
And really, what I want you
to think about is -
941
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,320
how can I be considerate
to my partner?
942
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,880
Yeah. There's no excuse for saying
what I said yesterday
943
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,360
and I really apologise.
944
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:08,720
Dean, are you OK?
945
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,240
I was... Kind of caught me off,
that.
946
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,000
Yeah. If I'm being real, yeah,
that caught me off. Yeah, yeah.
947
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,560
I found yesterday
really hard as well.
948
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,960
I'm sorry.
949
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,880
This couch
is a very difficult place,
950
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,320
but it is a place
951
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,280
where relationships are broken
or where they grow.
952
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,560
Now the physical and
sexual attraction is significant,
953
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,280
but the best antidote
is just to say,
954
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:42,280
how can I every day work on
strengthening my relationship?
955
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,280
And as long as you are
continuing to make progress
956
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,040
week after week after week,
957
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,640
think of where you'll be at the end.
958
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,880
On that note,
I would like to go to a decision.
959
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,680
OK. And I would love to start
with Dean first.
960
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,040
It's obviously been a proper,
like, emotional time, like, together
961
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,920
like, hard and like we're like,
962
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,840
how do we get to that next stage?
963
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,120
Cos how can I make someone
fancy me if they don't?
964
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,440
But I do think we have got
a good base
965
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,240
and I'm hoping it will come now.
966
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,760
I'm still optimistic.
967
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,320
I think this could be something
special, you know,
968
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,600
something different.
969
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,960
So it is a stay.
970
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,960
APPLAUSE
971
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,360
Thank you so much. Sarah.
972
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,360
This journey has just been
so up and down.
973
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,920
I can see all of the reasons
why we've been matched.
974
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,560
And I really wanted
the nice guy and. I've got him
975
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,720
and I just really want it to work
because you're such a nice guy.
976
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,640
So I have decided to stay.
977
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:07,760
Stay. OK.
978
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,840
APPLAUSE
979
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,960
We applaud that you're staying,
980
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,800
and what I would encourage you
to do
981
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,480
is think about how every day
you can develop something
982
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,640
that is strengthening
your relationship.
983
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,400
Thank you. Cheers. Thank you, guys.
984
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,840
It was really hard to hear what Paul
had to say, and I apologise.
985
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,040
Yeah. I'm sorry. It's not me.
It's not who I am.
986
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,880
And maybe if I did have that spark,
987
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,960
I wouldn't have said anything
like that, cos I wouldn't have.
988
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,440
But there's not the spark there.
989
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,080
So that's... That was the only
reason why I said it.
990
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,400
I haven't meant it maliciously
at all.
991
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,240
I don't want to hurt anyone.
992
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,720
I'm being true to myself,
993
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,920
but then it's coming across
really badly so...
994
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,800
SHE SOBS
995
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,400
Yeah, it's been a really hard week.
996
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,080
Hearing that Sarah has been
disrespecting me
997
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,320
has caught me off-guard.
998
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,560
That is my probably biggest
red flag.
999
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,680
It does hurt me and I can also feel
myself like dwindling my shine
1000
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:33,440
and I don't want to lose me.
1001
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,440
You OK?
1002
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,240
From here, I think we're at a low,
1003
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,280
but I think that's
when you bounce back.
1004
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,760
There is so much there.
1005
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,040
Like, I'm still willing
to trust and build
1006
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,440
but it can never happen again.
1007
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,000
Are you joking me?
It can never ever, happen again.
1008
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,680
Sarah, are you OK?
1009
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,440
Yeah, I just... OK. Yeah.
You know, I just feel bad.
1010
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,160
We want everyone to grow, right?
1011
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,920
And so anytime we see something,
we'll call it out.
1012
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,560
But if you ever disagree,
if there's a disagreement,
1013
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,000
hold us accountable
to the disagreement as well.
1014
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,440
OK?
1015
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,680
Thank you.
1016
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,760
Next up to the couch we have Keye.
1017
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,760
Hi, Keye. Hello. Good to see you.
Good to see you.
1018
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,040
Sad to see that Davide's not here.
Me too.
1019
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,680
So how was your wedding?
1020
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,320
The wedding was amazing.
1021
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,120
I was incredibly nervous,
1022
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,840
but then Davide grabbed
both my hands
1023
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,240
and said that he'd got us.
1024
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,240
It kind of calmed me down and made
me feel really grounded and safe.
1025
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,560
Lovely. And in terms of
attraction, would you say that
1026
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,080
there was a real attraction there?
1027
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,000
Oh, 100%. Have you seen Davide?
1028
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,680
ALL LAUGH
1029
00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:53,120
We've all seen Davide!
1030
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,200
He's got the most beautiful
brown eyes
1031
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:57,080
with these little orange flecks.
1032
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,400
Like, his smile
lights up an entire room.
1033
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,880
He's just fantastic.
1034
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,440
It sounds like you guys got off
to a really brilliant start.
1035
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,440
Yeah. So let's move on
to my favourite question.
1036
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,640
How's the intimacy
in your relationship?
1037
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,600
It's wonderful. Thank you.
It's great.
1038
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,080
Thank you.
I love that response. It's great.
1039
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,680
It feels like you practised that.
1040
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:23,600
The intimacy or the response?
1041
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,160
LAUGHTER
1042
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,640
The two of you sound like
you're in a really good place.
1043
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,680
And it's so lovely to see
the progress of this relationship.
1044
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,280
So we know
that Davide is a man of many words,
1045
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,760
and he has very kindly written
a letter for you.
1046
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,800
Thank you. OK.
1047
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,720
Great.
1048
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,960
"Hey there, you beautiful human.
1049
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,640
"I have no words to explain how
amazing you are
1050
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,120
"and how much I adore you.
1051
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,640
"This last week I have seen us
go from strength to strength.
1052
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,600
"And I could not be more proud
to have you as my husband,
1053
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,440
"my Keye, that I'm falling for.
1054
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,360
"I'm sorry that I'm not there
to let you know in person
1055
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,280
"how much you mean to me.
1056
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,800
"So for sure, I'll stay as long
as you want me to. Davide."
1057
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,080
Aw!
1058
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,000
APPLAUSE
1059
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,440
Powerful words.
Yeah, it means a lot.
1060
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,640
It means everything. Yeah.
1061
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,080
We know what Davide's response
is to you.
1062
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,840
What's your decision? Um...
1063
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,320
Davide is finding ways
to make me smile every single day.
1064
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,200
I'm honestly loving absolutely
every second
1065
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:43,280
and can safely say
I am falling for him, too.
1066
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:46,920
Which no one tell him
before I get a chance to.
1067
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,480
LAUGHTER
1068
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,600
So I will, of course, stay.
1069
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,360
APPLAUSE
1070
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,200
PAUL: Nice, nice.
1071
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,360
Thank you so much, Keye.
1072
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,480
We love love, so it's so amazing
1073
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,800
to see how well the two of you
are matched.
1074
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,080
Fabulous. Thank you so much.
Good luck. Thank you. OK.
1075
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,720
So frame that.
I am framing it.
1076
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,280
Next on the couch,
if we could have...
1077
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,320
..Leigh and Leah. Come on up.
1078
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,480
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1079
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:28,880
Yeah!
1080
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,320
Hi, ladies.
1081
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,800
LEAH SIGHS
1082
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,160
How are you both? Good. Phenomenal.
1083
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,960
All right. Can we start
with the wedding?
1084
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,800
It was just a mad experience.
1085
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,880
Yeah. It was surreal.
1086
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,240
So what did you think
when you saw Leigh?
1087
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,960
I thought she was really cute.
1088
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,320
And obviously she's beautiful.
1089
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,840
I think straight away I just
had this, like, thing in my head.
1090
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,880
I was like, she's gonna be
an annoying little princess.
1091
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,880
I think cos I've seen,
like, princess dress.
1092
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,920
And then I seen she has a little
bit of attitude
1093
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,760
and I thought,
"Nah, she's all right."
1094
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,920
All right.
So, Leah, what did you think?
1095
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,640
I think it was just a bit of a shock
1096
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,600
because it's like so far
from what I would normally go for
1097
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,360
in a romantic sense.
1098
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,440
I never go for more feminine women.
1099
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,080
It's not just
about physical type,
1100
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,320
like hair colour or eye colour
or things like that.
1101
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,680
I've never felt physically attracted
to a girly woman.
1102
00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:27,040
I can appreciate their beauty.
1103
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,760
I can say
that they look stunning,
1104
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,160
which Leah absolutely is,
1105
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,680
but there's like a persona
of a person in the gay community
1106
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:36,400
that I am usually attracted to,
1107
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,880
and Leah is not that person.
1108
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,880
Fair enough.
And that's a great explanation.
1109
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,600
But I've realised since
being in this experiment with Leah
1110
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,400
that I've spent the last
year and a bit,
1111
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:50,840
since I became single,
1112
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,440
building myself up from being
really let down by someone,
1113
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,760
and I've realised
I've shut myself off
1114
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,200
so much from when I was hurt
1115
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:05,360
that I'm now struggling
to turn it back on.
1116
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,040
I'm like, I don't know how
to get it going again.
1117
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,920
Leigh, what you're telling us
is that,
1118
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,480
"Hey, I've had the door shut
and it was bolted shut
1119
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,680
"and I'm now just taking
the locks off of the door."
1120
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:20,640
So, challenging to start...
Yeah. ..a marriage like this.
1121
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:25,160
Mm-hm. All right. But now the work
that you need to do is
1122
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,200
how do you establish
a stronger emotional connection?
1123
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:32,560
And I think the beauty is
that the result
1124
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,600
is going to be positive
no matter what.
1125
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,440
Like, it's going to lead to a
better understanding of self. Yeah.
1126
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,520
It maybe just leads to,
1127
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,800
"You know what, I'm now willing
to open the door all the way."
1128
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,120
Right? Mm.
1129
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,120
But no matter what,
it's going to be a win.
1130
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,920
Yeah. I think the worry is,
1131
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,400
like, how do we get
to the next step?
1132
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:51,960
This is a popular question.
1133
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,040
How do you get out
of the friend zone?
1134
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,320
I find one of the
most productive strategies
1135
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,120
is to think about how you would
behave outside of the friend zone
1136
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,440
and just behave like that.
1137
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,440
That's what I have
actually been trying to do.
1138
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:06,720
Like, I'm a little bit more...
1139
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,080
OK, I need to be vulnerable,
I need to be open.
1140
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,040
I don't even feel like
you're necessarily, like,
1141
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,360
going through these paces, though,
1142
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,400
cos you are just being
open and vulnerable.
1143
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,720
Yeah. You know what I mean?
1144
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,200
I'm still trying. Like,
I'm trying to be like that.
1145
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:20,640
If I'm honest, I feel like
1146
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,160
who's more willing
to make this work? 100% me.
1147
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:24,600
Yeah. In my opinion.
1148
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,720
You are making more of an effort.
You are being tactile.
1149
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,800
You are doing all of these things
and I'm not able to get there.
1150
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,320
Leah, if you were not
in the friend zone,
1151
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,680
what would your relationship
look like?
1152
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:41,360
I think being more tactile
with one another,
1153
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,560
maybe more flirty with one another,
1154
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,800
having a snog now and again. OK.
1155
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,360
Everything that you've said
that you need
1156
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,560
is what I would be
1157
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,640
if those natural feelings
were there.
1158
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,920
But I've just had a block there.
It's stopping me from doing it
1159
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,240
cos I've never wanted
to feel like I'm leading Leah on.
1160
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,160
I just don't see it as that deep.
1161
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,360
I can have a flirt
and have a snog now and again.
1162
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,760
I don't see it that deep.
1163
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,040
And it's never going to lead me on.
1164
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,440
I overthink it a bit.
1165
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,800
She overthinks.
I'm not an overthinker.
1166
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,320
At the end of the day, I would
encourage you
1167
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,280
to experiment with
what the behaviour is
1168
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,840
to be out of the friend zone.
1169
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,840
Whatever that is, practise that.
1170
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,640
So let's go to the decision.
1171
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,160
Leah, you'll go first.
1172
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:32,000
I feel like it has been a tough week
for me this week,
1173
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,560
but I'm optimistic
and I'm very hopeful.
1174
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,640
I see why we've been matched
in so many different ways,
1175
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,080
and I'm happy and grateful
of being matched with her.
1176
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,800
So I vote stay.
1177
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,920
APPLAUSE
1178
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,160
I know that I've been a little
bit difficult to deal with
1179
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,880
because my head's been a little bit
all over the place.
1180
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,080
You've been so patient
1181
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,280
and still throwing yourself
into it 100%
1182
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,400
and being completely vulnerable
with me,
1183
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,040
even when I haven't been able
to give that back to you.
1184
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,800
And so that I'm really grateful for.
1185
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,480
Yeah, and I am hopeful
to see where it goes.
1186
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,520
So for that reason I wrote stay.
1187
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,480
APPLAUSE
1188
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,280
Well done to both of you.
1189
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,000
Stop overthinking everything.
1190
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,400
I'm gonna try. Right?
Just be in the moment.
1191
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,480
Thank you so much.
Thank you. Thank you.
1192
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,840
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1193
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,040
Next up to the couch,
if we can have Anita and Paul.
1194
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,520
APPLAUSE
1195
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,680
Oof! Hey, guys. Hi. Hey, hey.
1196
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:01,440
Hi. How are you both?
1197
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,840
OK, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
1198
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,720
OK. All right. Yeah.
Let's go to the wedding.
1199
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,080
Anita, what were your thoughts?
1200
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,800
There was a fun element
straight away.
1201
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,840
We kind of laughed nearly all day,
didn't we?
1202
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,360
Yeah. Yeah, it was a good day.
1203
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,680
All right.
1204
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:17,600
Paul, how was the day for you?
1205
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,520
It was excitement, then laughter.
1206
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,520
Conversation was very easy.
1207
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,600
After talking for a while,
1208
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,120
I thought there was potential
to build.
1209
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,960
I thought, "OK, now it begins."
1210
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,480
Now it begins.
1211
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,360
All right, so you're looking forward
to the honeymoon?
1212
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,520
Yeah. I thought we could build
from the wedding day.
1213
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,200
Anita, are you looking forward
to the honeymoon?
1214
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:44,240
Yeah, because he is a fun guy
to be around.
1215
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,120
He did make me laugh nearly all day.
1216
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,600
So, yeah, going forward,
I knew we could have a good time.
1217
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,160
So as we go into the honeymoon,
1218
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,240
you begin to investigate
shared values,
1219
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,920
shared outlook on life.
1220
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,960
What did you notice that
the two of you shared?
1221
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,160
So much. So much? OK. Like what?
1222
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,720
We've got the same values.
1223
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,840
Same values?
Yeah. Family orientated.
1224
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,600
OK. Same morals. All right.
1225
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,280
It feels like things are good.
1226
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,800
The outside stuff
matched us perfectly,
1227
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,880
but when it comes to
the inner deep stuff,
1228
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,280
the emotional and the attraction,
1229
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,840
we couldn't be so far apart
on the scale.
1230
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,800
Paul's a good talker,
but when you pin him down to talk,
1231
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,680
he deviates around
the relationship side.
1232
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,320
So are you really saying
1233
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:38,000
Paul wasn't emotionally connecting
with you?
1234
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,760
No connection,
no emotional connection.
1235
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,520
No communication.
1236
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,600
Yeah, just miles apart.
1237
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,040
OK, OK.
1238
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,480
To be fair, I didn't really
give Anita
1239
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,560
anything emotional to grip on to.
1240
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,440
All my other barriers
are down. Right.
1241
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:54,960
All my cards are on the table.
1242
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,560
And I think Anita knows that.
And she saw them.
1243
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,480
I struggle to open up emotionally.
It's hard for me.
1244
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,680
Paul, when you and I met
on a one-to-one,
1245
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,600
I felt like you were quite open.
1246
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:07,840
So I'm wondering,
1247
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,880
was there something that you needed
in this interaction
1248
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,240
to made you feel a little bit
more able to open up?
1249
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,360
I can interact all day.
I can talk to you all day.
1250
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,640
When it comes to affairs of the
heart with the opposite sex
1251
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,880
in a relationship,
I'm a different beast.
1252
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,160
That's when it feels
a bit difficult to do?
1253
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,400
It feels extremely awkward
and difficult, yeah.
1254
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:35,080
It sounds like on the honeymoon,
Anita, you were observing Paul
1255
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,000
in terms
of his emotional availability.
1256
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,640
You have placed him in this box,
1257
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,960
but it sounds like you've
permanently placed him in the box
1258
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,760
because everyone can become
emotionally available.
1259
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,440
Did you feel like
1260
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,520
because he's not bringing
that to the table now,
1261
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,560
I want nothing to do with him?
1262
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,040
No. I put him in that box
1263
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:03,600
because he said he wasn't
in that headspace to be available.
1264
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,040
He's on a self-discovery journey
and I'm on a love journey.
1265
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,040
So until he's discovered himself
1266
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,000
and found out what he actually
really needs in his life...
1267
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,360
Are those two mutually exclusive?
1268
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:16,680
They're on different paths.
1269
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,360
Are they, Anita?
1270
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:21,360
I have no idea.
1271
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,600
What we're saying is
that the two can exist together,
1272
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,480
so you can be on a journey
to find love
1273
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,400
and you can also find yourself
on that journey as well.
1274
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,160
Yeah. OK. All right.
1275
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,640
Honeymoon is done.
1276
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,520
Yep. You move into the apartments.
1277
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,120
Ish.
1278
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:40,280
Ish?
1279
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,480
For about ten minutes.
What happened?
1280
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,840
Went into the apartments,
and I just thought,
1281
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,840
"I just don't know
if I can do this."
1282
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,800
The thing that tipped me
over the edge,
1283
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,760
it was like a make or break thing
in my head.
1284
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,880
It was just like, "Paul, what's
the name of my two children?"
1285
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,120
And he just went...
1286
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,720
That was the communication thing.
1287
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,120
And the lack of interest
in me was kind of like, well...
1288
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,680
SHE SCOFFS
1289
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,680
And was that because Paul
hadn't asked you
1290
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,280
the names of your children?
1291
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,000
I've spoke about my children.
I've actually said their names.
1292
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,360
Right. The grandchildren as well,
I've spoke about them.
1293
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,320
So you felt like Paul
just wasn't listening to you,
1294
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,800
and because he wasn't listening,
he wasn't truly interested in you?
1295
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,880
Yeah. OK.
1296
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,760
In my brain, there's no real point
of pursuing it.
1297
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,360
OK. It's interesting.
1298
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,160
So, Paul, what's your take?
1299
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:32,840
I have my children's tattooed names
1300
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,040
and dates of birth on my arm
for a reason,
1301
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,600
cos I can't remember nothing.
1302
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,960
I talk constantly
and I put all my cards on the table
1303
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,520
cos that's how I operate.
1304
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,280
I volunteer the information.
1305
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,320
How Anita operates is she likes
to be asked the information.
1306
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,160
So...
1307
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,240
At the end of the day,
why are you here?
1308
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,280
To find love.
1309
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,280
Well, what does that mean to you?
1310
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:00,880
A partner in crime.
1311
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,720
Somebody to walk alongside us.
1312
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,760
Still be holding hands
when we're 80.
1313
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,240
Somebody who's there for you.
1314
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,520
Now, Paul, what do you want?
1315
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,960
Invariably, I want to find
a partner, I want to find love.
1316
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,880
I want to cry with somebody.
Laugh with someone.
1317
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,600
So how is what you just said, Paul,
and what you just said, Anita,
1318
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,920
different in terms of
what you're looking for?
1319
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,320
Or is it the same?
1320
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,800
I want love.
1321
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,400
Is what you described
what Paul just described?
1322
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,440
Yeah. OK, so what's the problem?
1323
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,040
Ultimately, you both said
1324
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,720
you want to have someone
who will support you.
1325
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,720
And I think that's the place
to remain focussed on
1326
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,440
is be each other's support.
1327
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,640
Can we go to a decision?
1328
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:00,880
Anita.
1329
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,200
Paul's a lovely man.
1330
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,360
He's the gentleman I asked for,
1331
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:10,840
who he really is attentive.
1332
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,600
I'm totally seeing
why you matched us up...
1333
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,160
..but I still feel
that I'm missing something.
1334
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,240
So for that reason...
1335
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:29,960
..I wrote leave.
1336
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:46,920
I'm missing something.
1337
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,920
So for that reason...
1338
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,760
..I wrote leave.
1339
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:06,960
So, Paul?
1340
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,240
Um...
1341
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,480
For me, it's about building
that trust and respect,
1342
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,600
building that emotional bond.
1343
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:20,960
I'm sorry it wasn't happening
at the start.
1344
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,720
I do apologise for that.
1345
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,640
I feel a little bit inadequate
that I didn't provide that.
1346
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,160
That's alright.
1347
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,080
But it's the start of the journey.
I'm going to stay.
1348
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:38,440
CHEERING
1349
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:39,680
Yes, Paul!
1350
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:47,240
So if one person writes stay,
1351
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,480
then the couple must stay
1352
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,960
and continue to work
on their relationship.
1353
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,560
Now let me give you my opinion.
1354
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,400
The miscommunication is
in the listening
1355
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,280
and the asking of the questions.
1356
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,640
If those are done,
this relationship becomes stronger.
1357
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,280
So are you prepared
to give this a go?
1358
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,000
Yep.
1359
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,440
SMALL CHEER
1360
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,400
APPLAUSE
1361
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,920
Paul, are you prepared
to give this a go?
1362
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,440
Yes.
1363
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,920
CHEERING
1364
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,120
SHE EXHALES
1365
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,320
Paul, clearly, you
have homework to do here.
1366
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,560
Yep. And, Anita, if you think about
1367
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,600
what can you be doing to strengthen
the relationship.
1368
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,840
Thank you, both. Thank you.
Thanks very much.
1369
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,200
Thank you, guys. Thank you.
1370
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,720
I wrote leave because
what's the point in wasting time?
1371
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,400
I'm hoping that Paul takes the
expert's advice
1372
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,800
and he has listened this time.
1373
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,360
Doesn't listen much to me, so
hopefully he has a light bulb moment
1374
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,880
and thinks,
"Yeah, I've got to try opening up."
1375
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,080
Rejection is a very difficult thing
to cope with.
1376
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,880
A little bit disappointed
that she doesn't want to try.
1377
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,720
It's only been eight days. Really?
1378
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,320
I'm hoping Anita can look
at the differences we've got
1379
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,120
and work together to build
the marriage going forward.
1380
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,640
Next up to the couch...
1381
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:25,840
..we have Maeve.
1382
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,680
CHEERING
1383
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,200
Hiya. Hi, Maeve.
You all right? Yeah.
1384
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:33,680
Lovely to see you. How are you?
1385
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,520
Of course, Joe's not feeling
very well,
1386
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,320
so we're just really keen to know
1387
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,880
how the whole process
has been for you.
1388
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,080
So take me back to the wedding.
1389
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,160
What were your first impressions
of Joe?
1390
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,840
I was a little bit intimidated.
1391
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,720
Like, I couldn't
make eye contact with him.
1392
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,920
He was looking at me,
and I was just like...
1393
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,640
Like, I couldn't look at him.
1394
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,320
What do you think was going on there
for you?
1395
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,520
He's very good looking
and I'm just thinking, like,
1396
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:03,200
"Oh, my God, he's not going
to find me attractive whatsoever."
1397
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,120
Feels was quite sad
to hear you say that.
1398
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:09,800
Because I've always got
that self doubt about us,
1399
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,080
do you know what I mean?
1400
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,120
Cos I always go on
like I'm loud and confident,
1401
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,360
but I am quite, like, shy inside.
1402
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:19,800
And when I saw him I thought,
"Nah, he's not gonna like us."
1403
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,400
Sounded like you felt
a bit intimidated when you saw Joe.
1404
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,200
Yeah.
1405
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,280
And then you went on honeymoon?
1406
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,000
Yeah. What happened?
1407
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,600
I argued with him,
and he said something,
1408
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,600
and I took it out of context
completely.
1409
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,200
I could feel myself getting angry
with him,
1410
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,680
and I had to take myself out
of the situation
1411
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,560
because I thought,
"I don't want to be angry at you."
1412
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,040
Do you think
because you felt quite intimidated
1413
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,760
that made you think, "OK, let
me kind of ruffle feathers here?"
1414
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,280
Yeah. I could feel myself
bubbling up, thinking,
1415
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,160
"I'm gonna kick off.
I'm gonna kick off."
1416
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,440
So you felt quite triggered
in that moment? Mm-hm.
1417
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,440
OK.
I could feel myself liking him
1418
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:04,520
and I was thinking,
1419
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,680
"I don't want to go through
the heartache again.
1420
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,440
"I don't want to go through
the shit times again."
1421
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,200
I can't do it. I can't, I can't...
1422
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,680
Like, I'm trying to be vulnerable
but I really struggle doing that.
1423
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,280
I don't want people
to see that side.
1424
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,000
And how did you resolve
the argument with Joe?
1425
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,120
You know, when I said I want someone
to speak to us softly,
1426
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,200
like, when I'm having bad moments,
that's exactly what he did.
1427
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,000
My heart...
1428
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,720
Aw!
1429
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,520
And, like, I'm just so grateful
that that's what he did,
1430
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,960
cos I know I'm not an easy person
to be around when I'm like that.
1431
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,000
He's so nice. There's so much more
to him than what he looks like
1432
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,400
He's absolutely incredible.
1433
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,680
Yeah. I was getting in my head.
1434
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,520
I was thinking, "Oh, my God,
I like him. I like him.
1435
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,760
"What am I going to do here?"
1436
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,600
I don't want to be nasty to him.
1437
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,480
I'm feeling too much in my head
1438
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,960
because I struggle liking people.
1439
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,760
Because you feel that, what?
1440
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,760
I don't know, I just feel like
it's always going to end bad.
1441
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,960
I think he's too good for me.
1442
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,800
I mean, it's quite heartbreaking
to hear you say that.
1443
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,720
Yeah. That you feel
he's too good for you.
1444
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,200
Well, he is.
1445
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,800
No. No, he's not. No...
1446
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,560
OVERLAPPING CHATTER
1447
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,600
He adores her so much.
1448
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,040
Maybe there might be things
that Joe could do differently
1449
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,080
to help you to feel more secure.
1450
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,360
He doesn't do anything wrong.
You know what I mean?
1451
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:24,680
So Joe's perfect?
1452
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,000
I'm not... No one's perfect.
1453
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,480
If you do nothing wrong,
you're perfect.
1454
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,720
Well, he's... Oh, I don't...
1455
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,280
Well, he's perfect to me so far.
1456
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:37,320
OK, but now let's talk about
your part in this.
1457
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,600
Because you, Maeve,
are the classic self sabotager.
1458
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,080
But that comes
from having low self-worth.
1459
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,760
Low self-worth comes from
lots of places
1460
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,400
but in particular
from horrible relationships
1461
01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:55,240
where we have been trounced on
1462
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,160
time and time again.
1463
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,840
And then you look at yourself
and you say, "You know what,
1464
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,040
"I'm not worthy to have a great
relationship."
1465
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,800
And we also place people on
pedestals
1466
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,600
and that's what you're doing.
1467
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,920
You're saying, "I'm not worthy
to be with someone that perfect."
1468
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,880
You need to love on yourself more.
1469
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,360
SHE SCOFFS
1470
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:18,640
You do.
1471
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:29,400
What do you do to love on yourself?
1472
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:31,560
I don't know. Nothing.
1473
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,160
Everyone's on a path here.
1474
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,440
And so what I hope for you
in this path
1475
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:41,480
is that you find your self-worth.
1476
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:46,600
This is more important
than your relationship with Joe.
1477
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,400
You understand this? Yeah.
1478
01:09:48,440 --> 01:09:49,640
OK.
1479
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,080
Let's go to the decisions, Maeve.
1480
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,400
Oh.
1481
01:09:56,440 --> 01:09:58,840
I've had a bit of a roller coaster
of emotions,
1482
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,320
like, with this journey,
1483
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:04,160
and I've been vulnerable
as much as I can be,
1484
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,280
but obviously I want to be
a bit more vulnerable
1485
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,680
and I want to give myself
a little bit more self-love.
1486
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,080
That's the main one.
1487
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:17,040
So what I have decided is
that I'm gonna stay.
1488
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,200
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1489
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,360
So hold on, hold on. Wait.
1490
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,760
Joe obviously can't be here,
1491
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,080
but he has let us know his decision.
1492
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:35,600
And I can tell you he has decided
to stay.
1493
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:37,840
That's good.
1494
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:44,280
Well, Maeve, I hope you grow to love
yourself as much as we all love you.
1495
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,200
Right, can I go now?
You can now.
1496
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:48,400
Thanks, Maeve.
1497
01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:50,240
APPLAUSE
1498
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,760
WHISPERING: Imagine if the fucker
said leave.
1499
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,920
THEY GIGGLE
1500
01:10:59,960 --> 01:11:02,320
Next on the couch,
Nelly and Steven.
1501
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,000
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1502
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,000
Hi. Hello. Hello, hello.
1503
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,520
Welcome. Lovely to see
the two of you.
1504
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,360
Lovely to see you.
So let's start from the beginning.
1505
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:18,720
How was your wedding?
1506
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,000
Wedding was amazing. Yeah?
1507
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,320
Couldn't have asked
for a better day, to be honest.
1508
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,680
I was a little bit concerned
when I turned around
1509
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,600
and saw six guys walking towards me.
1510
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,640
I thought,
"Hang on, where's the wife?"
1511
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,200
Um... But yeah,
once I saw her being carried
1512
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:36,040
in on a dolly and saw her face,
my first word was just, "Wow."
1513
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,800
Yeah, that was nice.
Just like a portrait.
1514
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,960
Oh, my God.
Like, this is going to be my wife.
1515
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,480
Like, this is the person I'm going
to say "I do" to and give my all to.
1516
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,760
So yeah, I was really
in that moment, then.
1517
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,760
That's when I was like,
"OK, I'm ready."
1518
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,960
And, Nelly,
what was your experience?
1519
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:56,880
As soon as I saw Steven,
I just felt really calm.
1520
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,760
I just got a really nice vibe
from him.
1521
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,120
For me, it was really important
1522
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,040
that my partner would value family
a lot
1523
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:03,760
because I'm really close to mine.
1524
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,320
So that was amazing to see.
1525
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,760
Yeah. It was really, really special.
It was really nice.
1526
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,760
Sounding absolutely amazing.
1527
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,720
I'm very hopeful that you're going
to say the same thing
1528
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,280
about the honeymoon.
Were sparks still flying?
1529
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,160
Yeah. We had such an amazing time.
Yeah.
1530
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,680
And where did you go?
To Jamaica.
1531
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,720
We just literally just felt
that whole Jamaican aura.
1532
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,240
We didn't bicker
and just got on so well.
1533
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,680
We laughed a lot. Yeah, we just had
a really good time.
1534
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,440
We get on, we have a similar
sense of humour,
1535
01:12:35,480 --> 01:12:37,400
we are really playful
with each other.
1536
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,080
It's exactly what I wanted.
1537
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:42,920
But I always just think, like,
1538
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,040
well, when's something
going to go wrong?
1539
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,200
It sounds like there's a part of you
that's thinking
1540
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:50,840
this is too good to be true.
1541
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,600
Yeah. Exactly that.
1542
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,640
Kind of waiting
for something to happen,
1543
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,000
and it freaks me out a little bit
that it hasn't.
1544
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,760
Why aren't we arguing?
Why haven't you irritated me?
1545
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,440
Why haven't I irritated you?
1546
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,440
I end up trying to look
for something.
1547
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:08,080
So, for example,
1548
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:12,120
I love how affectionate you were
on our honeymoon.
1549
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,360
Like... Yeah. And then I'd come
back to the apartment,
1550
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:15,920
and I would kind of think,
1551
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,560
"He's not given me a kiss
this morning."
1552
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,080
And then I get in my head and think,
1553
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,960
"Yeah, it's cos
he doesn't like you."
1554
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,880
And then he will give me a kiss
and I think,
1555
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:26,400
"Oh, that was nice.
He does like me."
1556
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:28,440
And it's just constant.
1557
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:30,080
And I even feel saying this now,
I'm thinking
1558
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:32,200
"Oh, my God. This is going to give
him the ick
1559
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,920
"and it's going to push him away."
1560
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:49,920
It's just constant.
1561
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,960
And I even feel saying this
now I'm thinking,
1562
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,040
"Oh, my God. This is going to give
him the ick
1563
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:55,760
"and it's going to push him away."
1564
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:03,760
Do you know why you do that? No.
1565
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,520
Your last three relationships,
how did those end?
1566
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,680
They all cheated on me. Right.
1567
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,320
So they betrayed your trust.
1568
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,960
Whenever our trust is betrayed
over and over again,
1569
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:25,840
we develop what's called
a hypervigilance for red flags.
1570
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,560
Because you have to learn
to protect yourself. OK.
1571
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:33,080
So you now are in this mode
of self-protection.
1572
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:34,520
But you know what the problem is
1573
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,240
when you're just looking
for red flags?
1574
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:37,760
You don't see the green ones.
1575
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,880
You miss all the beautiful
green ones. Yeah.
1576
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,920
And so the best advice
I can give on this
1577
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:48,160
is become hypervigilant
about green flags.
1578
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,320
OK. Retrain your brain.
1579
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:52,680
And that's how you do it.
1580
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,160
Obviously on the reassurance,
1581
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:55,600
that comes a little bit harder
for me.
1582
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,360
I get frustrated myself
cos I know I should give a lot more.
1583
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,560
Exactly. Yeah.
I was going to say this.
1584
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,720
You have to actually say it,
1585
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,400
and it's very important
for you to be consistent.
1586
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:07,920
And what you know is that
you do have to reassure
1587
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:09,800
and you have to do that
consistently.
1588
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:14,240
And, Nelly,
at the dinner party yesterday,
1589
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,600
we saw you get quite emotional...
Yeah.
1590
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,160
..when it came to the honesty box
1591
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,200
and you worrying
about being too much.
1592
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:27,480
I just kind of worry
that if I show too much emotion...
1593
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,440
In my last relationship,
I would be too emotional sometimes.
1594
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:31,640
Or if I get tearful, it was,
1595
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,160
"Oh, for God's sake,
you're crying again."
1596
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,960
Sometimes I think I shouldn't
give those emotions
1597
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,480
cos what if that happens again?
1598
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:40,320
And then, yeah, the tears
kept leaking from my face.
1599
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,960
I really applaud the fact
that you did that,
1600
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,520
and I could see that
wasn't an easy thing for you to do.
1601
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,280
I would like to also say, though,
1602
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:52,080
that it is really important for you
to be kinder to yourself,
1603
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,040
and I would encourage you
to acknowledge that, actually,
1604
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,120
it's all right to show emotion.
1605
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,280
It says a lot more
about your ex-partners
1606
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,160
that they weren't able to hold that.
1607
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,120
What I'm seeing here
is that Steven can.
1608
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,120
He can be there for you.
And. we're seeing that right now.
1609
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,320
Yeah.
1610
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,400
I feel it.
1611
01:16:12,440 --> 01:16:13,960
I do. Thank you.
1612
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,520
Sorry. Tell me. What are you like?
1613
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,120
Trying to poke you in the eye.
1614
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:19,640
APPLAUSE
1615
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:25,600
Steven, how was it for you to hear
Nelly be so vulnerable yesterday?
1616
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,920
In a weird sense, it's pleasing.
1617
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,280
Obviously, I never want to see
the person I'm with, like, cry.
1618
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:32,360
It shows that she cares.
1619
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,480
It shows that she's willing
to be vulnerable.
1620
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,240
But I've kept little memories
and little moments to then
1621
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,600
on those random days
where maybe she's feeling
1622
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,280
a little bit too much
in her head
1623
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,040
to be like, "Well, look, here's
what this week's meant to me.
1624
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,480
"Here's our week
in a small little bag."
1625
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,680
The reassurance I'll give,
I like to do it through action
1626
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,720
and not purely through words
all the time.
1627
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,240
She walked in the other day
1628
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:54,800
and I had a little bit
and I thought,
1629
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,080
picked her up, gave her a kiss
and sort of...
1630
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,520
Tackled me to the floor,
but I loved it. That's what I want.
1631
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,760
It's fun. It's playful.
I want stuff like that.
1632
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,200
You two sound like you're falling
for each other.
1633
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,080
You can definitely say you're on
the path for that
1634
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:07,520
cos there's been nothing wrong.
1635
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,120
So you're on the path?
Yeah, you're on the path. Yeah. 100%
1636
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,480
I am. I'm just gonna have to say it.
1637
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,360
I probably would say I feel like I'm
a little bit more ahead of Steven.
1638
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,320
And I'll agree to that, cos she's
allowed herself to be vulnerable.
1639
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,360
So she's taken
those extra couple of steps.
1640
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,560
I haven't yet. So until I make
that step and jump ahead,
1641
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,040
then we can start walking,
like, hand-in-hand again.
1642
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,040
SHE LAUGHS
1643
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,040
Can we go to a decision?
1644
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,920
Well, I am really grateful
to have been matched
1645
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,040
with you in this process
and I love being around you.
1646
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,120
I am looking forward
to doing this journey with you,
1647
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,000
and I really want to know
a little bit more about you.
1648
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,480
Um, so I put stay.
1649
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:48,760
CHARLENE: Stay.
1650
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:50,600
APPLAUSE
1651
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,000
And, Steven what's, your decision?
1652
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,880
It's leading in the right direction
for me
1653
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,160
and I'm saying I'm fully committed
to opening up a little bit more.
1654
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,480
But, yeah, I'm fully in.
1655
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,280
I've been fully in
since I see you in that dolly.
1656
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,920
So, yeah, for me, it's 100% stay
1657
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,520
with a little smiley face.
1658
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,520
I put smiley as well. See?
1659
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,680
I think the two of you are just made
for each other.
1660
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,800
I'm so excited
to see where this goes,
1661
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,800
and we wish you all the best
for the rest of the week.
1662
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,560
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Yeah, thank you so much.
1663
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:23,960
Thank you. Woo!
1664
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,120
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
1665
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,840
I'm really glad that, actually,
Paul highlighted what I'm doing
1666
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,680
because I knew I was doing it,
1667
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,400
but I didn't know how to stop it.
1668
01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:36,160
Thank you.
1669
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,280
100% I'm going to be focusing
on the green flags more.
1670
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,920
I feel better. Yeah,
I feel more reassured already.
1671
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:46,920
Next time...
1672
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,560
Hello.
1673
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:49,920
..it's experts week.
1674
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:51,880
Do I have permission
to remove your robe?
1675
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,320
While some couples
lean into physical intimacy...
1676
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,080
Oh! I hope you know where the key
is for that.
1677
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,960
..Anita's patience with Paul
wears even thinner.
1678
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,480
Surely you should know
what you want by now.
1679
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,240
Are you expecting me to be fully
committed after two weeks?
1680
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,600
I need to know
where this relationship's going.
1681
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,080
No, I'm not hanging around.
1682
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,800
And an unwanted interference
in one couple's marriage...
1683
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,400
Other people don't need
to know my shit,
1684
01:19:14,440 --> 01:19:18,040
cos you'll see a side of me
which you probably won't like.
1685
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,120
I'm not having you say that
1686
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,160
I was trying to come between your
relationship. I'm not.
1687
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:22,960
Couldn't give a flying fuck,
if I'm completely honest.
1688
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,120
I'm here for my relationship.
1689
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,120
..causes two husbands to collide.
1690
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:29,000
Telling people
just basically fuck off.
1691
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:34,120
You're not part of this
relationship, so see yourself out.
1692
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,160
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