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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,000 hey [ __ ] I want to know if you ready to 2 00:00:02,670 --> 00:00:05,000 3 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,000 do this 5 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:11,000 [ __ ] minut came about because we were 6 00:00:08,910 --> 00:00:11,000 7 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,560 frustrated and tired of white people 8 00:00:10,990 --> 00:00:12,560 9 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,160 saying they deserve what they get 10 00:00:12,550 --> 00:00:14,160 11 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,800 they're just little gang bangers and 12 00:00:14,150 --> 00:00:15,800 13 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,000 they deserve to be treated the way 14 00:00:15,790 --> 00:00:18,000 15 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,000 they're 17 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,800 treat we thought that the news media was 18 00:00:21,750 --> 00:00:23,800 19 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,920 not explaining the inner city that well 20 00:00:23,790 --> 00:00:25,920 21 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,040 they had not done any real in-depth 22 00:00:25,910 --> 00:00:28,040 23 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,640 journalism on why these kids are this 24 00:00:28,030 --> 00:00:29,640 25 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,520 way so that motivated us telling the 26 00:00:29,630 --> 00:00:31,520 27 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,600 story ain't nothing going to change in 28 00:00:31,510 --> 00:00:33,600 29 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,200 Atlanta I mean I'm still going to be 30 00:00:33,590 --> 00:00:36,200 31 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,640 black the Hugh brothers and the writer 32 00:00:36,190 --> 00:00:38,640 33 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,840 Tiger Williams wanted to document what 34 00:00:38,630 --> 00:00:40,840 35 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,760 life was like there for a lot of people 36 00:00:40,830 --> 00:00:42,760 37 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,280 nigg hurry the [ __ ] up [ __ ] I know what 38 00:00:42,750 --> 00:00:44,280 39 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,320 the [ __ ] I'm doing you just watch out 40 00:00:44,270 --> 00:00:46,320 41 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:50,280 what we were trying to do was take a 42 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:50,280 43 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:52,520 slice of reality and put it on film down 44 00:00:50,270 --> 00:00:52,520 45 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,520 with a 47 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,960 187 let's do this we wanted it to be 48 00:00:55,510 --> 00:00:57,960 49 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,160 real turn that [ __ ] [ __ ] down 50 00:00:57,950 --> 00:01:00,160 51 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,080 the reaction was what we wanted to be we 52 00:01:00,150 --> 00:01:02,080 53 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,920 had more white people walk up to us 54 00:01:02,070 --> 00:01:04,920 55 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,680 genuinely when I never understood why 56 00:01:04,910 --> 00:01:06,680 57 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,340 those kids did what they did until I saw 58 00:01:06,670 --> 00:01:08,340 59 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:14,040 this 60 00:01:08,330 --> 00:01:14,040 61 00:01:08,340 --> 00:01:14,040 [Music] 63 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:21,680 movie we grew up in Detroit Michigan all 64 00:01:18,510 --> 00:01:21,680 65 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,840 the way up to 9 1980 came into a place 66 00:01:21,670 --> 00:01:23,840 67 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,640 called Pomona California a little city 68 00:01:23,830 --> 00:01:26,640 69 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,400 about 35 40 Mi outside of downtown Los 70 00:01:26,630 --> 00:01:28,400 71 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,560 Angeles here our interest in movies 72 00:01:28,390 --> 00:01:31,560 73 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:33,720 first came from things like Superman and 74 00:01:31,550 --> 00:01:33,720 75 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,480 Indiana Jones the popcorn movies and we 76 00:01:33,710 --> 00:01:35,480 77 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,840 were fascinated with the making of 78 00:01:35,470 --> 00:01:36,840 79 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,120 movies the one that really changed it 80 00:01:36,830 --> 00:01:38,120 81 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,160 for us is what changed it for a lot of 82 00:01:38,110 --> 00:01:40,160 83 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,960 people which was Scarface and that was 84 00:01:40,150 --> 00:01:41,960 85 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,600 the first time where Cinema met pop 86 00:01:41,950 --> 00:01:43,600 87 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:46,280 culture at the same time and it was kind 88 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:46,280 89 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,960 of like a movie and a film but I think 90 00:01:46,270 --> 00:01:48,960 91 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:52,720 our love for film came through something 92 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:52,720 93 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,640 pretty obvious and overstated now scorey 94 00:01:52,710 --> 00:01:54,640 95 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,000 Good Fellas of what really got us uh 96 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:57,000 97 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,280 into the gangster movies we use that 98 00:01:56,990 --> 00:01:59,280 99 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,240 movie an example of how to do something 100 00:01:59,270 --> 00:02:02,240 101 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:04,560 right 91 when we were 19 we did a lot of 102 00:02:02,230 --> 00:02:04,560 103 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:07,200 hip-hop music videos uh we did hip-hop 104 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:07,200 105 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:09,880 videos for for Tupac Too Short we did 106 00:02:07,190 --> 00:02:09,880 107 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,240 like 2930 videos I think we did that for 108 00:02:09,870 --> 00:02:12,240 109 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,880 one year and we got lucky we're 110 00:02:12,230 --> 00:02:14,880 111 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:18,000 developing men during that time old dog 112 00:02:14,870 --> 00:02:18,000 113 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:20,600 was the craziest [ __ ] alive America's 114 00:02:17,990 --> 00:02:20,600 115 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:24,040 nightmare at the time Los Angeles was a 116 00:02:20,590 --> 00:02:24,040 117 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:26,240 hot bed for gang activity drugs and 118 00:02:24,030 --> 00:02:26,240 119 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,560 police brutality it just wasn't a good 120 00:02:26,230 --> 00:02:28,560 121 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,280 environment to be a black male anywhere 122 00:02:28,550 --> 00:02:30,280 123 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,480 you ain't got to be creeping I don't 124 00:02:30,270 --> 00:02:31,480 125 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,440 know why you trying to act like you 126 00:02:31,470 --> 00:02:33,440 127 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,960 cleaning up there was a big racial 128 00:02:33,430 --> 00:02:34,960 129 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,920 tension going on down there between the 130 00:02:34,950 --> 00:02:36,920 131 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,680 Koreans and blacks anytime you walked 132 00:02:36,910 --> 00:02:38,680 133 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:41,000 into one of their stores they follow you 134 00:02:38,670 --> 00:02:41,000 135 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,760 around always think we going to steal 136 00:02:40,990 --> 00:02:42,760 137 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,640 something and the black community felt 138 00:02:42,750 --> 00:02:44,640 139 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,040 that for so long that when the rice did 140 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:46,040 141 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:48,120 go down they took it out on those 142 00:02:46,030 --> 00:02:48,120 143 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:52,200 businesses or they took it out on the 144 00:02:48,110 --> 00:02:52,200 145 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,200 closest thing that they can see to The 147 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,600 Establishment yeah things have been 148 00:02:56,830 --> 00:02:58,600 149 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:02,800 bursting at the seams already with the 150 00:02:58,590 --> 00:03:02,800 151 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:04,520 police and um the minorities if you will 152 00:03:02,790 --> 00:03:04,520 153 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,640 you know not just blacks Latinos 154 00:03:04,510 --> 00:03:06,640 155 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,200 everybody and everyone's frustrations 156 00:03:06,630 --> 00:03:09,200 157 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:11,400 just boiled over and it became Anarchy 158 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:11,400 159 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,200 just like the watch rights the watch 160 00:03:11,390 --> 00:03:13,200 161 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,680 rights demolished that area and all the 162 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:14,680 163 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,520 business left mind I think the same 164 00:03:14,670 --> 00:03:16,520 165 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,400 thing could be said of the 92 rights 166 00:03:16,510 --> 00:03:18,400 167 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,920 these kids that are coming up nowadays 168 00:03:18,390 --> 00:03:20,920 169 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,600 are affected by that that city was just 170 00:03:20,910 --> 00:03:22,600 171 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:25,120 completely decimated you know and 172 00:03:22,590 --> 00:03:25,120 173 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,080 nothing came back you know if they 174 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:27,080 175 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,480 barely had anything before then there 176 00:03:27,070 --> 00:03:29,480 177 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,760 was nothing after we friended in that 178 00:03:29,470 --> 00:03:31,760 179 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,400 cont text just to show that if our 180 00:03:31,750 --> 00:03:34,400 181 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,360 people expect to have nothing down there 182 00:03:34,390 --> 00:03:36,360 183 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,840 then expect to get a gun in your face at 184 00:03:36,350 --> 00:03:37,840 185 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,760 some point cuz youve just bred the 186 00:03:37,830 --> 00:03:40,760 187 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,320 criminal you know we enlisted a writer 188 00:03:40,750 --> 00:03:42,320 189 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,840 by the name of Tiger Williams who 190 00:03:42,310 --> 00:03:43,840 191 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,520 happened to be the brother of our best 192 00:03:43,830 --> 00:03:45,520 193 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,200 friend in high school Ryan Williams who 194 00:03:45,510 --> 00:03:48,200 195 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,880 was in the in the film play Stacy [ __ ] 196 00:03:48,190 --> 00:03:49,880 197 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,360 hell yeah that's that [ __ ] man trying 198 00:03:49,870 --> 00:03:52,360 199 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,880 to be me and [ __ ] they needed someone to 200 00:03:52,350 --> 00:03:53,880 201 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,440 write something gangster for him you 202 00:03:53,870 --> 00:03:55,440 203 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,960 know and I told him my brother's a rider 204 00:03:55,430 --> 00:03:56,960 205 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,560 you know you know I can hook y'all up 206 00:03:56,950 --> 00:03:59,560 207 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:03,240 you know and sure enough I hooked them 208 00:03:59,550 --> 00:04:03,240 209 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,960 up sat down got together and we would 210 00:04:03,230 --> 00:04:04,960 211 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,800 hang out a lot you know during the whole 212 00:04:04,950 --> 00:04:06,800 213 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,960 we just sit around hang out and talk 214 00:04:06,790 --> 00:04:09,960 215 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:12,400 about story first I get shot then you 216 00:04:09,950 --> 00:04:12,400 217 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:15,320 going to drive me home somebody must 218 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:15,320 219 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,320 want me to die we just researched and 220 00:04:15,310 --> 00:04:17,320 221 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,120 went out to Jordan Downs watt South 222 00:04:17,310 --> 00:04:19,120 223 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,920 Central something few people know is we 224 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:20,920 225 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,080 based this Loosely after a character me 226 00:04:20,910 --> 00:04:23,080 227 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,920 and tiger interviewed so we just got the 228 00:04:23,070 --> 00:04:24,920 229 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,720 screenplay flushed out in like a month 230 00:04:24,910 --> 00:04:26,720 231 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,240 or two and started getting this shopped 232 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:29,240 233 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,960 around I had a project with new line 234 00:04:29,230 --> 00:04:31,960 235 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:34,360 that fell part in the late stages and so 236 00:04:31,950 --> 00:04:34,360 237 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,720 I got a job producing a music video and 238 00:04:34,350 --> 00:04:35,720 239 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,960 that's where I met the Hughes brothers 240 00:04:35,710 --> 00:04:37,960 241 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:41,040 who were directing it it was the music 242 00:04:37,950 --> 00:04:41,040 243 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:43,320 video to Brenda's Got a Baby I'm 244 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:43,320 245 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,040 pregnant what and as we went along on 246 00:04:43,310 --> 00:04:45,040 247 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,600 the project I would talk to them and I 248 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:46,600 249 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,960 said well what's your ambition what do 250 00:04:46,590 --> 00:04:48,960 251 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,880 you want to do yeah you guys want to do 252 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:50,880 253 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,160 commercials music videos is that's 254 00:04:50,870 --> 00:04:52,160 255 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,120 that's it and they're like no no we want 256 00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:54,120 257 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,400 to be filmmakers we want to make movies 258 00:04:54,110 --> 00:04:55,400 259 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,680 and they said well we're developing a 260 00:04:55,390 --> 00:04:57,680 261 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,360 script with a friend of ours now and it 262 00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:59,360 263 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,680 was menace to society and they started 264 00:04:59,350 --> 00:05:00,680 265 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,160 telling me about it and it sounded 266 00:05:00,670 --> 00:05:03,160 267 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,520 really intriguing and I read it and uh 268 00:05:03,150 --> 00:05:05,520 269 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,760 it shocked me Darren Scott had given it 270 00:05:05,510 --> 00:05:08,760 271 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,520 to new line so Bob Shay had put the 272 00:05:08,750 --> 00:05:10,520 273 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,440 script on weekend read which meant we 274 00:05:10,510 --> 00:05:12,440 275 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,680 would probably get an answer on Monday 276 00:05:12,430 --> 00:05:13,680 277 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,440 on whether or not they're going to do 278 00:05:13,670 --> 00:05:16,440 279 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,120 the movie and after he read it I called 280 00:05:16,430 --> 00:05:18,120 281 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,080 and you know and I I didn't know what's 282 00:05:18,110 --> 00:05:21,080 283 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:25,040 what what's his reaction you know and so 284 00:05:21,070 --> 00:05:25,040 285 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:27,680 I asked and they said Bob cried and I 286 00:05:25,030 --> 00:05:27,680 287 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:30,480 was like oh well I guess we got a movie 288 00:05:27,670 --> 00:05:30,480 289 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,480 then now [ __ ] hurry up go in there 290 00:05:30,470 --> 00:05:32,480 291 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,200 Buck them [ __ ] and get the [ __ ] out 292 00:05:32,470 --> 00:05:34,200 293 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,200 don't be playing I think honestly the 294 00:05:34,190 --> 00:05:36,200 295 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,680 reason why Bob Shane new line decided to 296 00:05:36,190 --> 00:05:37,680 297 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,400 give this movie a chance especially with 298 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:39,400 299 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,560 two 20-year-olds like that hadn't done 300 00:05:39,390 --> 00:05:41,560 301 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,880 anything before was and I I wouldn't 302 00:05:41,550 --> 00:05:42,880 303 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,480 have said this in the past but I think 304 00:05:42,870 --> 00:05:44,480 305 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Boys in Hood had a lot to do with it 306 00:05:44,470 --> 00:05:46,000 307 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,640 boys was a story about one kid who makes 308 00:05:45,990 --> 00:05:48,640 309 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,240 it out and we wanted Minister Society to 310 00:05:48,630 --> 00:05:50,240 311 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,080 be the antithesis and we wanted to 312 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:53,080 313 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,560 examine really why so many kids don't 314 00:05:53,070 --> 00:05:54,560 315 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,120 make it out and what are the reasons why 316 00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:57,120 317 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,120 they don't make it 319 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:02,280 out what the [ __ ] is that through line 320 00:06:00,350 --> 00:06:02,280 321 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:05,240 and the casting of men was like who's 322 00:06:02,270 --> 00:06:05,240 323 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:07,320 real who feels real who looks real so 324 00:06:05,230 --> 00:06:07,320 325 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,000 casting Kane was like a no-brainer for 326 00:06:07,310 --> 00:06:09,000 327 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,640 us [ __ ] I know you ain't dumb enough to 328 00:06:08,990 --> 00:06:10,640 329 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,240 be showing [ __ ] the robbery tape man 330 00:06:10,630 --> 00:06:12,240 331 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,000 what's up with that we had seen an 332 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:14,000 333 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,520 episode of America Most Wanted and there 334 00:06:13,990 --> 00:06:15,520 335 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,480 was this young kid in there playing a 336 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:18,480 337 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,240 gangster and the way he was talking and 338 00:06:18,470 --> 00:06:20,240 339 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,040 his mannerisms were like he gets it you 340 00:06:20,230 --> 00:06:22,040 341 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,840 know Tyron Turner wasn't even a 342 00:06:22,030 --> 00:06:23,840 343 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,280 professional actor but he had this look 344 00:06:23,830 --> 00:06:25,280 345 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:27,200 that I think everybody could kind of 346 00:06:25,270 --> 00:06:27,200 347 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:28,760 vicariously live through we got a lot of 348 00:06:27,190 --> 00:06:28,760 349 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,480 resistance from New Line cuz he was a 350 00:06:28,750 --> 00:06:31,480 351 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:34,200 raw talent the time the first rehearsal 352 00:06:31,470 --> 00:06:34,200 353 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,480 was kind of a disaster he wasn't ready 354 00:06:34,190 --> 00:06:36,480 355 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,080 and everybody wondered oh wow wow is 356 00:06:36,470 --> 00:06:38,080 357 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,880 this guy going to be able to do the part 358 00:06:38,070 --> 00:06:39,880 359 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,760 you know he has the look but pretty much 360 00:06:39,870 --> 00:06:41,760 361 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,720 nothing else but we got him a coach and 362 00:06:41,750 --> 00:06:43,720 363 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,440 by the time we were shooting he was King 364 00:06:43,710 --> 00:06:46,440 365 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:50,440 I see you hold it like this and pull a 366 00:06:46,430 --> 00:06:50,440 367 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:52,520 trigger pow punk ass Loren tat plays o 368 00:06:50,430 --> 00:06:52,520 369 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,480 dog the badass in the movie it was 370 00:06:52,510 --> 00:06:54,480 371 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,960 amazing because we don't go for cliches 372 00:06:54,470 --> 00:06:55,960 373 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:59,600 but at the time we thought we're going 374 00:06:55,950 --> 00:06:59,600 375 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:02,040 to get this big black buff guy got 376 00:06:59,590 --> 00:07:02,040 377 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,880 mations in his face and ashy Knuckles 378 00:07:02,030 --> 00:07:03,880 379 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,600 and he's going to play odogg and so we 380 00:07:03,870 --> 00:07:05,600 381 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,280 were interviewing a lot of people for 382 00:07:05,590 --> 00:07:07,280 383 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,080 odogg and we couldn't find him and 384 00:07:07,270 --> 00:07:09,080 385 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:11,560 finally we told our casting director to 386 00:07:09,070 --> 00:07:11,560 387 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:14,000 bring in the tape of the rejects and the 388 00:07:11,550 --> 00:07:14,000 389 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:17,120 first reject was this kid came in right 390 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:17,120 391 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:19,400 the Disney casting 101 I had this sort 392 00:07:17,110 --> 00:07:19,400 393 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,760 of Disney look you know this really 394 00:07:19,390 --> 00:07:22,760 395 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:26,760 fresh young kid look but I'm originally 396 00:07:22,750 --> 00:07:26,760 397 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:29,760 from Chicago so my interpretation of the 398 00:07:26,750 --> 00:07:29,760 399 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:32,160 guy was based on some guys that I had 400 00:07:29,750 --> 00:07:32,160 401 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,160 seen in 403 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:38,640 Chicago and I said you know the odds are 404 00:07:35,910 --> 00:07:38,640 405 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:43,360 against me so I got to flip this I have 406 00:07:38,630 --> 00:07:43,360 407 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:45,920 to really go in there and knock it out 408 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:45,920 409 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:48,600 oh you would sound like a little [ __ ] 410 00:07:45,910 --> 00:07:48,600 411 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,680 man we yell action and he got down start 412 00:07:48,590 --> 00:07:50,680 413 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,640 playing a dice game in ad liing and it 414 00:07:50,670 --> 00:07:52,640 415 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,600 was like oh [ __ ] like right away you 416 00:07:52,630 --> 00:07:54,600 417 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,560 recognize like this is crazy cuz this 418 00:07:54,590 --> 00:07:57,560 419 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,880 kid was so spot on and his mannerism 420 00:07:57,550 --> 00:07:59,880 421 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,960 body language lingo everything what you 422 00:07:59,870 --> 00:08:01,960 423 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,680 say about my mama he nailed it you know 424 00:08:01,950 --> 00:08:03,680 425 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,040 there there's no way anybody has even 426 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:06,040 427 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,160 come close to this [ __ ] [ __ ] I smoke 428 00:08:06,030 --> 00:08:08,160 429 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,680 anybody I just don't give a [ __ ] just 430 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:09,680 431 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:13,200 hit us in the head we go this is even 432 00:08:09,670 --> 00:08:13,200 433 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:15,920 scarier This Charming looking kid oozing 434 00:08:13,190 --> 00:08:15,920 435 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:19,160 all this this evil 436 00:08:15,910 --> 00:08:19,160 437 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,560 [ __ ] damn suck on that you [ __ ] ass 438 00:08:19,150 --> 00:08:20,560 439 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,080 trick we wanted to tell him he got the 440 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:22,080 441 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,720 job and the casting agent's like no no 442 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:23,720 443 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,160 just wait let me go call him and I ran 444 00:08:23,710 --> 00:08:25,160 445 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,880 out to the elevator when he got on the 446 00:08:25,150 --> 00:08:26,880 447 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,000 elevator and said this is 448 00:08:26,870 --> 00:08:29,000 449 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,000 yours I didn't believe him and I didn't 450 00:08:28,990 --> 00:08:31,000 451 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,080 think much of it until I got the call 452 00:08:30,990 --> 00:08:33,080 453 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,840 and they said that you landed the par 454 00:08:33,070 --> 00:08:34,840 455 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:38,680 and this was my first film I had never 456 00:08:34,830 --> 00:08:38,680 457 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:40,960 done a movie i' always been a television 458 00:08:38,670 --> 00:08:40,960 459 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:44,360 actor so you like my little tape don't 460 00:08:40,950 --> 00:08:44,360 461 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:46,480 you yeah that [ __ ] was Co [ __ ] yeah [ __ ] 462 00:08:44,350 --> 00:08:46,480 463 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,880 problem Jada pinkit was on a different 464 00:08:46,470 --> 00:08:48,880 465 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,760 world if I ever catch you with a gun in 466 00:08:48,870 --> 00:08:50,760 467 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,760 your hand I will break your tail you got 468 00:08:50,750 --> 00:08:52,760 469 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,200 that she didn't come in audition cuz I 470 00:08:52,750 --> 00:08:54,200 471 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,720 think she was hesitant as a lot of 472 00:08:54,190 --> 00:08:56,720 473 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,440 people were who who were trying to do 474 00:08:56,710 --> 00:08:58,440 475 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,560 something legitimate in this business 476 00:08:58,430 --> 00:09:00,560 477 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,520 cuz it wasn't looked at as a legitimate 478 00:09:00,550 --> 00:09:02,520 479 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:04,320 project at the time so she came in to 480 00:09:02,510 --> 00:09:04,320 481 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,480 meet with us and somehow we convinced 482 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:06,480 483 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,960 her to read a little bit watching Jada 484 00:09:06,470 --> 00:09:08,960 485 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,480 pinket read Ronnie was probably the 486 00:09:08,950 --> 00:09:10,480 487 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,760 strangest thing all of a sudden you're 488 00:09:10,470 --> 00:09:11,760 489 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,960 watching someone bring a character to 490 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:13,960 491 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,160 life why are you tripping you ain't 492 00:09:13,950 --> 00:09:16,160 493 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,400 doing jack [ __ ] here Kan why don't you 494 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:18,400 495 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:21,120 just come with me and on the spot we 496 00:09:18,390 --> 00:09:21,120 497 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:23,240 knew that she was the the one for the 498 00:09:21,110 --> 00:09:23,240 499 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,840 role [ __ ] Perell cuz you don't owe him 500 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:25,840 501 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,800 [ __ ] all right you need to be glad that 502 00:09:25,830 --> 00:09:27,800 503 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,160 you graduated from high school and that 504 00:09:27,790 --> 00:09:30,160 505 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,680 you're alive at 18 and you need to do 506 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:31,680 507 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,920 something with yourself before you end 508 00:09:31,670 --> 00:09:33,920 509 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:35,280 up like he did Sam Jackson came to us 510 00:09:33,910 --> 00:09:35,280 511 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,640 because we wanted to do some stunt 512 00:09:35,270 --> 00:09:37,640 513 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:41,040 casting in certain 514 00:09:37,630 --> 00:09:41,040 515 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,320 areas it was very intimidating because I 516 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:42,320 517 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,640 you know I work with the actors I was 518 00:09:42,310 --> 00:09:43,640 519 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,520 very intimidated he would [ __ ] with me 520 00:09:43,630 --> 00:09:45,520 521 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,800 every now and then just play with me 522 00:09:45,510 --> 00:09:47,800 523 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:51,360 what the [ __ ] you mean you ain't got the 524 00:09:47,790 --> 00:09:51,360 525 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:54,840 money yet [ __ ] Kea bring Mr 526 00:09:51,350 --> 00:09:54,840 527 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:56,680 Butler a plate a nice size PL Charles 528 00:09:54,830 --> 00:09:56,680 529 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,560 Dutton came the same way we just begged 530 00:09:56,670 --> 00:09:58,560 531 00:09:56,680 --> 00:10:01,800 for for a cameo on this day and the 532 00:09:58,550 --> 00:10:01,800 533 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:01,800 other is 535 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:07,880 on and you're the prey the one that was 536 00:10:06,310 --> 00:10:07,880 537 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,160 interesting was Bill Duke who was 538 00:10:07,870 --> 00:10:10,160 539 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,960 retired from AC time had called and said 540 00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:11,960 541 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,720 would we hire someone on the crew and we 542 00:10:11,950 --> 00:10:13,720 543 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,880 said oh yeah we'll hire if you do this 544 00:10:13,710 --> 00:10:15,880 545 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,720 role for us dad was actually a classic 546 00:10:15,870 --> 00:10:17,720 547 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,080 moment I mean like you know Bill Duke 548 00:10:17,710 --> 00:10:19,080 549 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,400 everybody talks about that you know you 550 00:10:19,070 --> 00:10:20,400 551 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,000 done [ __ ] up now you know you done 552 00:10:20,390 --> 00:10:22,000 553 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,120 [ __ ] up you done [ __ ] up you know 554 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:24,120 555 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,160 that don't you so we had three veterans 556 00:10:24,110 --> 00:10:26,160 557 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,360 who came and rounded out the cast and 558 00:10:26,150 --> 00:10:28,360 559 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,040 provided legitimacy to the movie that it 560 00:10:28,350 --> 00:10:30,040 561 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,520 didn't have yo me some money 562 00:10:30,030 --> 00:10:32,520 563 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:35,000 [ __ ] hell no but here you go 564 00:10:32,510 --> 00:10:35,000 565 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,520 when we signed on to do Menace new line 566 00:10:34,990 --> 00:10:37,520 567 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,840 there was a caveat that said you got to 568 00:10:37,510 --> 00:10:39,840 569 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:42,080 hire a platinum rap artist in order for 570 00:10:39,830 --> 00:10:42,080 571 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,680 this movie to be greenl slanging all 572 00:10:42,070 --> 00:10:43,680 573 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,840 that [ __ ] in the hood y'all ain't got no 574 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:45,840 575 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:48,320 [ __ ] money we first saw mc8 in 576 00:10:45,830 --> 00:10:48,320 577 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:50,320 a rap video and he was in a project and 578 00:10:48,310 --> 00:10:50,320 579 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,480 he had this dripping Jerry curl and 580 00:10:50,310 --> 00:10:52,480 581 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,680 we're like who snuck him past like the 582 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:54,680 583 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,960 the sensors you know like how you know 584 00:10:54,670 --> 00:10:56,960 585 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:58,400 for Life a better way of saying you know 586 00:10:56,950 --> 00:10:58,400 587 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,800 how they let this [ __ ] get by right you 588 00:10:58,390 --> 00:10:59,800 589 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,600 know like this this guy is real right 590 00:10:59,790 --> 00:11:01,600 591 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,040 here we got to get him hey homie you 592 00:11:01,590 --> 00:11:04,040 593 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,040 need some 595 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,960 help Having Eight short ready to put a 596 00:11:07,990 --> 00:11:09,960 597 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,560 hole in the [ __ ] yo yo don't 598 00:11:09,950 --> 00:11:11,560 599 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,240 start that hood rat [ __ ] you know ain't 600 00:11:11,550 --> 00:11:13,240 601 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:15,200 nobody no [ __ ] hood rat these 602 00:11:13,230 --> 00:11:15,200 603 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,760 are the cats we grew up listening to 604 00:11:15,190 --> 00:11:17,760 605 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:20,200 they brought a flavor to it and a versil 606 00:11:17,750 --> 00:11:20,200 607 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,000 itude that was really helpful and making 608 00:11:20,190 --> 00:11:22,000 609 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,120 people believe that you were dealing 610 00:11:21,990 --> 00:11:24,120 611 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,160 with South 612 00:11:24,110 --> 00:11:27,160 613 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,640 Central punk ass [ __ ] we made minutes 614 00:11:27,150 --> 00:11:28,640 615 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,760 when we're 20 and I remember thinking 616 00:11:28,630 --> 00:11:30,760 617 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,360 that was normal it wasn't too recently I 618 00:11:30,750 --> 00:11:33,360 619 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,040 started realizing how abnormal that was 620 00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:35,040 621 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,200 a real naive thing on our part was 622 00:11:35,030 --> 00:11:36,200 623 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,920 thinking that we can go down to the 624 00:11:36,190 --> 00:11:37,920 625 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,600 neighborhood and shoot and around real 626 00:11:37,910 --> 00:11:39,600 627 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,120 Grape Street Crips and then Jordan Downs 628 00:11:39,590 --> 00:11:42,120 629 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:44,480 the housing project and actually employ 630 00:11:42,110 --> 00:11:44,480 631 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,160 the real gangsters we were able to shoot 632 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:46,160 633 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:49,160 there because at the time there had been 634 00:11:46,150 --> 00:11:49,160 635 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,840 a peace treaty between the gangs and we 636 00:11:49,150 --> 00:11:50,840 637 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,520 had hired a few of the guys on his 638 00:11:50,830 --> 00:11:53,520 639 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:57,120 technical consultants and emissaries to 640 00:11:53,510 --> 00:11:57,120 641 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:59,840 the neighborhood oh [ __ ] one 642 00:11:57,110 --> 00:11:59,840 643 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,680 time it a scene where all just sitting 644 00:11:59,830 --> 00:12:01,680 645 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,360 on the wall drinking beer and the police 646 00:12:01,670 --> 00:12:03,360 647 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:05,080 comes around the corner chasing on the 648 00:12:03,350 --> 00:12:05,080 649 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,120 alley now the guys all around them 650 00:12:05,070 --> 00:12:07,120 651 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,480 dressed in purple are real guys they're 652 00:12:07,110 --> 00:12:08,480 653 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,320 like giving each other pounds drinking 654 00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:10,320 655 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,040 40 o and everything like that then 656 00:12:10,310 --> 00:12:12,040 657 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,200 there's a scene where odog goes to 658 00:12:12,030 --> 00:12:14,200 659 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Kane's grandparents house after he comes 660 00:12:14,190 --> 00:12:15,880 661 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,440 back from the hospital and everybody in 662 00:12:15,870 --> 00:12:17,440 663 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,360 that scene is from that neighborhood and 664 00:12:17,430 --> 00:12:19,360 665 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,560 a lot of my gangsters we always watching 666 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:21,560 667 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,760 our backs because you know we didn't 668 00:12:21,550 --> 00:12:23,760 669 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:26,440 know what was going to happen being in 670 00:12:23,750 --> 00:12:26,440 671 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:29,280 that neighborhood get your ass up out 672 00:12:26,430 --> 00:12:29,280 673 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,520 the car [ __ ] we had a few scary moments 674 00:12:29,270 --> 00:12:31,520 675 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,480 where sometimes the person on the crew 676 00:12:31,510 --> 00:12:33,480 677 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,920 might say the wrong thing or do the 678 00:12:33,470 --> 00:12:35,920 679 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:38,200 wrong thing get the [ __ ] out break 680 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:38,200 681 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,880 yourself [ __ ] but it was nothing major 682 00:12:38,190 --> 00:12:39,880 683 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:43,920 man they loved us down there and we love 684 00:12:39,870 --> 00:12:43,920 685 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:46,080 them yo what's up boy yeah they were 686 00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:46,080 687 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,840 just happy than anybody was there in a 688 00:12:46,070 --> 00:12:48,840 689 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:50,640 genuine way and involving them too hey 690 00:12:48,830 --> 00:12:50,640 691 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,280 y'all going to follow us right yeah 692 00:12:50,630 --> 00:12:53,280 693 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:55,480 [ __ ] we know where s I'll never forget 694 00:12:53,270 --> 00:12:55,480 695 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:59,240 this one guy I forget his name but he 696 00:12:55,470 --> 00:12:59,240 697 00:12:55,480 --> 00:13:01,320 was the scariest guy in the area I mean 698 00:12:59,230 --> 00:13:01,320 699 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:04,600 everything about him his manner his 700 00:13:01,310 --> 00:13:04,600 701 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,960 approach his reputation you would think 702 00:13:04,590 --> 00:13:06,960 703 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,760 if anybody was going to be somebody who 704 00:13:06,950 --> 00:13:08,760 705 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,760 was going to cause US problems or hurt 706 00:13:08,750 --> 00:13:10,760 707 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,000 somebody or anything it was this guy why 708 00:13:10,750 --> 00:13:12,000 709 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,600 you come through this [ __ ] so 710 00:13:11,990 --> 00:13:14,600 711 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,840 early all the time man you said 1:00 I 712 00:13:14,590 --> 00:13:16,840 713 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,160 don't give a [ __ ] what I said [ __ ] and 714 00:13:16,830 --> 00:13:19,160 715 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,640 I remember that to try to diffuse this 716 00:13:19,150 --> 00:13:21,640 717 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:25,080 we offered him his job as like our head 718 00:13:21,630 --> 00:13:25,080 719 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:29,120 neighborhood security guy and he did a 720 00:13:25,070 --> 00:13:29,120 721 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:30,360 great job and at the end of it he came 722 00:13:29,110 --> 00:13:30,360 723 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,760 came up to us and the guy was 724 00:13:30,350 --> 00:13:32,760 725 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,320 practically in tears cuz he was like 726 00:13:32,750 --> 00:13:34,320 727 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,280 nobody ever gave me a chance to do 728 00:13:34,310 --> 00:13:36,280 729 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,800 anything like this before they were very 730 00:13:36,270 --> 00:13:37,800 731 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,600 appreciative of Us coming down there and 732 00:13:37,790 --> 00:13:39,600 733 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,600 not condescending them so we gleaned a 734 00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:41,600 735 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,200 lot of real stuff from them or listening 736 00:13:41,590 --> 00:13:44,200 737 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,160 to them or just having them around don't 738 00:13:44,190 --> 00:13:46,160 739 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,600 worry about [ __ ] I'mma handle this [ __ ] 740 00:13:46,150 --> 00:13:48,600 741 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,360 for you people were coming up to us as 742 00:13:48,590 --> 00:13:50,360 743 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:54,160 actors thinking we were from grap Street 744 00:13:50,350 --> 00:13:54,160 745 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,160 Len tap got that a lot get my 747 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,200 [ __ ] they thought I was one of 748 00:13:57,390 --> 00:13:59,200 749 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,960 the cats in the neighborhood they 750 00:13:59,190 --> 00:14:01,960 751 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:04,600 thought I was real one of the little bgs 752 00:14:01,950 --> 00:14:04,600 753 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,360 in the hood so that was good for me we 754 00:14:04,590 --> 00:14:06,360 755 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,840 still mad at you for dropping all that 756 00:14:06,350 --> 00:14:08,840 757 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,560 blood on us Z's C really like yo what 758 00:14:08,830 --> 00:14:11,560 759 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:13,400 Hood you from and I was like nah I'm I'm 760 00:14:11,550 --> 00:14:13,400 761 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:17,000 just doing the movie Man and they were 762 00:14:13,390 --> 00:14:17,000 763 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:19,200 like no for real like what set you from 764 00:14:16,990 --> 00:14:19,200 765 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,880 do this for 766 00:14:19,190 --> 00:14:21,880 767 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,360 hell man you getting down [ __ ] your 768 00:14:21,870 --> 00:14:23,360 769 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,280 Hughes Brothers had an unusual 770 00:14:23,350 --> 00:14:26,280 771 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:28,640 partnership Allan works with the actors 772 00:14:26,270 --> 00:14:28,640 773 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,400 Albert's uh basically behind the camera 774 00:14:28,630 --> 00:14:30,400 775 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,800 but they both could do either job but it 776 00:14:30,390 --> 00:14:32,800 777 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,160 was just interesting to see how they you 778 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:35,160 779 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,120 know come together and to pull off what 780 00:14:35,150 --> 00:14:37,120 781 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,520 they were able to pull off was amazing 782 00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:39,520 783 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,920 what's going on big boy chilling man 784 00:14:39,510 --> 00:14:41,920 785 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:44,240 first week there were some some days 786 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:44,240 787 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,600 where we clearly were out of our depth 788 00:14:44,230 --> 00:14:45,600 789 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,000 third day into the shoot we thought our 790 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:47,000 791 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,560 careers were over with and we also had 792 00:14:46,990 --> 00:14:48,560 793 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,000 the problem of some actors and crew 794 00:14:48,550 --> 00:14:50,000 795 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,360 members doubting the movie I mean there 796 00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:51,360 797 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,200 was an actor out right said I don't know 798 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:53,200 799 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,960 why I'm doing this [ __ ] at the time I 800 00:14:53,190 --> 00:14:54,960 801 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,040 remember feeling like we just got to get 802 00:14:54,950 --> 00:14:57,040 803 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,160 through this [ __ ] ironically sometimes 804 00:14:57,030 --> 00:14:59,160 805 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,960 the days it feel like really bad make 806 00:14:59,150 --> 00:15:00,960 807 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:03,560 for better scenes the days you feel like 808 00:15:00,950 --> 00:15:03,560 809 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,520 you really got something you most time 810 00:15:03,550 --> 00:15:05,520 811 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,480 you really don't have anything put that 812 00:15:05,510 --> 00:15:07,480 813 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,680 in for you better go somewhere with that 814 00:15:07,470 --> 00:15:09,680 815 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,520 black power [ __ ] you know that [ __ ] gets 816 00:15:09,670 --> 00:15:11,520 817 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,040 no play in this ride sometimes we didn't 818 00:15:11,510 --> 00:15:13,040 819 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,360 have enough time to do things or set up 820 00:15:13,030 --> 00:15:15,360 821 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:18,040 a steady camera set up a dolly and we 822 00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:18,040 823 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,960 would go handheld and a lot of people 824 00:15:18,030 --> 00:15:19,960 825 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,600 thought that was a stylistic choice you 826 00:15:19,950 --> 00:15:21,600 827 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,520 know like oh they're very good at that 828 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:23,520 829 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,280 gritty running gun style and it's like 830 00:15:23,510 --> 00:15:25,280 831 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,120 no that was almost by accident or just 832 00:15:25,270 --> 00:15:27,120 833 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,960 by Happ stance we just had to do that 834 00:15:27,110 --> 00:15:29,960 835 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,840 you alive ain't you 836 00:15:29,950 --> 00:15:31,840 837 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,880 and who says that's good first test 838 00:15:31,830 --> 00:15:33,880 839 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,560 screening it went through the roof and 840 00:15:33,870 --> 00:15:35,560 841 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,800 to this day was the highest score they 842 00:15:35,550 --> 00:15:37,800 843 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:40,360 ever got at new line Cinema it scored 844 00:15:37,790 --> 00:15:40,360 845 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,560 like bananas and it was really loud and 846 00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:42,560 847 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,160 people were very involved it was like a 848 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:44,160 849 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,560 price fight everybody was jumping up and 850 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:46,560 851 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,520 down with excitement and um like they're 852 00:15:46,550 --> 00:15:48,520 853 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,280 watching a boxing match and when the 854 00:15:48,510 --> 00:15:50,280 855 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,000 lights went up there was like 20 game 856 00:15:50,270 --> 00:15:52,000 857 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,280 members down in the front row weeping 858 00:15:51,990 --> 00:15:54,280 859 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,920 their eyes out and the cards came back 860 00:15:54,270 --> 00:15:56,920 861 00:15:54,280 --> 00:16:00,120 and I think it was 97% which is unheard 862 00:15:56,910 --> 00:16:00,120 863 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:03,120 of hey this for the homies who ain't 864 00:16:00,110 --> 00:16:03,120 865 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,920 here going to con was great we were part 866 00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:04,920 867 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,840 of the director's fortnite we didn't 868 00:16:04,910 --> 00:16:06,840 869 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,680 know what to expect it was like 8 hours 870 00:16:06,830 --> 00:16:08,680 871 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,320 a day of interviews back to back to back 872 00:16:08,670 --> 00:16:10,320 873 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,120 to back to back we didn't have time to 874 00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:12,120 875 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,560 even think we weren't prepared for it 876 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:14,560 877 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,120 and basically had to get like B12 shots 878 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:16,120 879 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,480 by the end of the second day because we 880 00:16:16,110 --> 00:16:19,480 881 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,920 were so fried the can experience was our 882 00:16:19,470 --> 00:16:21,920 883 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,760 first taste of pseudo celebrity there 884 00:16:21,910 --> 00:16:23,760 885 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,960 was a moment where we were walking down 886 00:16:23,750 --> 00:16:26,960 887 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:29,000 the street and Ebert walked up and 888 00:16:26,950 --> 00:16:29,000 889 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,200 started talking to us about our movie 890 00:16:28,990 --> 00:16:30,200 891 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,200 and there would be these kids that would 892 00:16:30,190 --> 00:16:32,200 893 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,120 come up and go Le FR Hughes Le FR Hughes 894 00:16:32,190 --> 00:16:34,120 895 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,760 and we would be signing these 8 by9 896 00:16:34,110 --> 00:16:35,760 897 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,840 pictures they had of us out there when 898 00:16:35,750 --> 00:16:37,840 899 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,080 the film was over got our Standing 900 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:40,080 901 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:44,520 Ovation and we were all 902 00:16:40,070 --> 00:16:44,520 903 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:47,200 called to the uh stage and we stood on 904 00:16:44,510 --> 00:16:47,200 905 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:49,160 stage and there's just this wall of 906 00:16:47,190 --> 00:16:49,160 907 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,520 people going crazy and clapping and 908 00:16:49,150 --> 00:16:51,520 909 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:54,280 screaming and and 910 00:16:51,510 --> 00:16:54,280 911 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,840 hollering and standing on stage with 912 00:16:54,270 --> 00:16:55,840 913 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,920 that in front of that wall of people I 914 00:16:55,830 --> 00:16:57,920 915 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,560 said to myself this is the closest I'll 916 00:16:57,910 --> 00:16:59,560 917 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,720 ever get to feeling like a rock star 918 00:16:59,550 --> 00:17:01,720 919 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,720 right 921 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:07,760 now the film was pretty much positively 922 00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:07,760 923 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,440 reviewed there were some hard reviews 924 00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:09,440 925 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,640 obviously you know again socially 926 00:17:09,430 --> 00:17:11,640 927 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,880 irresponsible and just excessively 928 00:17:11,630 --> 00:17:14,880 929 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:16,120 violent Oprah is Mis positive and we had 930 00:17:14,870 --> 00:17:16,120 931 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,600 heard through the gra Vine that she had 932 00:17:16,110 --> 00:17:17,600 933 00:17:16,120 --> 00:17:19,360 said this is a terrible movie don't go 934 00:17:17,590 --> 00:17:19,360 935 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,080 see it negative and all this other stuff 936 00:17:19,350 --> 00:17:21,080 937 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:22,680 and that was kind of a a stamp of 938 00:17:21,070 --> 00:17:22,680 939 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,080 approval for us we're like if Oprah 940 00:17:22,670 --> 00:17:25,080 941 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,160 hates this movie that's good for us 942 00:17:25,070 --> 00:17:26,160 943 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,080 basically because we're not going for 944 00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:28,080 945 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,400 the Oprah crowd the huge brothers and I 946 00:17:28,070 --> 00:17:30,400 947 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,600 wanted to make a film that you either 948 00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:32,600 949 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,360 love it or you hate it and if you love 950 00:17:32,590 --> 00:17:34,360 951 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,680 it great but if you hate it I'm 952 00:17:34,350 --> 00:17:35,680 953 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:37,200 perfectly okay with that cuz that's a 954 00:17:35,670 --> 00:17:37,200 955 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,000 very powerful emotion rather make a 956 00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:39,000 957 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,240 movie that you love or hate then you 958 00:17:38,990 --> 00:17:41,240 959 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,040 don't really remember you know two weeks 960 00:17:41,230 --> 00:17:43,040 961 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,680 later or a month later or whatever quote 962 00:17:43,030 --> 00:17:44,680 963 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,400 is if if you hate black people this 964 00:17:44,670 --> 00:17:46,400 965 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,760 movie will make you hate them more but 966 00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:47,760 967 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,880 it basically meant if you're just a 968 00:17:47,750 --> 00:17:49,880 969 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,720 dumbass hick that already hates black 970 00:17:49,870 --> 00:17:51,720 971 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,240 people this ain't going to make you love 972 00:17:51,710 --> 00:17:54,240 973 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:56,320 black people it was a big hit you know 974 00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:56,320 975 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:59,400 we did the film for about $3 million and 976 00:17:56,310 --> 00:17:59,400 977 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:02,440 it grossed almost $30 million 978 00:17:59,390 --> 00:18:02,440 979 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,280 Bingo they did a survey in all the inner 980 00:18:02,430 --> 00:18:04,280 981 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,560 cities we were beating Jurassic Park 982 00:18:04,270 --> 00:18:06,560 983 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,440 that summer hell yeah hell yeah it 984 00:18:06,550 --> 00:18:08,440 985 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,720 started out with a very high per screen 986 00:18:08,430 --> 00:18:10,720 987 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:13,800 average but was only on about 7 or 800 988 00:18:10,710 --> 00:18:13,800 989 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:16,520 screens and that movie just played and 990 00:18:13,790 --> 00:18:16,520 991 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:20,920 played and played and played the 992 00:18:16,510 --> 00:18:20,920 993 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:22,480 reaction was scary it was scary to me 994 00:18:20,910 --> 00:18:22,480 995 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,440 because people loved it people were 996 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:24,440 997 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,720 standing up in some theaters you had 998 00:18:24,430 --> 00:18:26,720 999 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,480 people talking back to the screen and 1000 00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:28,480 1001 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:30,160 I'm not suggesting all brothers and 1002 00:18:28,470 --> 00:18:30,160 1003 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,600 sisters to talk back to the screen but 1004 00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:32,600 1005 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,200 on Menace you're damn right we got to 1006 00:18:32,590 --> 00:18:34,200 1007 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,600 talk back to the screen uh I remember 1008 00:18:34,190 --> 00:18:36,600 1009 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,320 going to the movie theater and watching 1010 00:18:36,590 --> 00:18:39,320 1011 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:42,520 you know grown grown men grown Thug 1012 00:18:39,310 --> 00:18:42,520 1013 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:45,160 rough G you know crying H the film get 1014 00:18:42,510 --> 00:18:45,160 1015 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,160 some [ __ ] 1017 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:51,000 help my n and what happens is you have 1018 00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:51,000 1019 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:52,560 these gang members coming from each 1020 00:18:50,990 --> 00:18:52,560 1021 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,840 territory to congregate in these 1022 00:18:52,550 --> 00:18:54,840 1023 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,880 theaters and obviously certain things 1024 00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:56,880 1025 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,920 happen what's up homies hey let's go 1026 00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:58,920 1027 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,960 twist this nigga's cap back man it 1028 00:18:58,910 --> 00:19:00,960 1029 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,120 really started back with colors and then 1030 00:19:00,950 --> 00:19:03,120 1031 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:06,000 New Jack City and then boys in the hood 1032 00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:06,000 1033 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:08,720 a lot of people in gang culture thought 1034 00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:08,720 1035 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,560 mess to society was real and that what 1036 00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:11,560 1037 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,520 they saw on screening they recognized 1038 00:19:11,550 --> 00:19:13,520 1039 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,600 damn and we just going to find these 1040 00:19:13,510 --> 00:19:15,600 1041 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,200 little marks and smoker [ __ ] ain't that 1042 00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:17,200 1043 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,480 hard so they were all coming to the 1044 00:19:17,190 --> 00:19:18,480 1045 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,680 theater at the same time to see this 1046 00:19:18,470 --> 00:19:20,680 1047 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,920 movie and anytime you do that you're 1048 00:19:20,670 --> 00:19:22,920 1049 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:25,200 going to get some 1050 00:19:22,910 --> 00:19:25,200 1051 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,280 conflicts [ __ ] shut the [ __ ] up before 1052 00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:27,280 1053 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,760 we blast your ass to do we feel 1054 00:19:27,270 --> 00:19:30,760 1055 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:33,400 responsible for gang activity no do we 1056 00:19:30,750 --> 00:19:33,400 1057 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,160 feel bad that if people were shot during 1058 00:19:33,390 --> 00:19:35,160 1059 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,800 you know or killed for that 1060 00:19:35,150 --> 00:19:37,800 1061 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,680 matter during viewing menes that hell 1062 00:19:37,790 --> 00:19:39,680 1063 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,760 yeah that that that doesn't feel good 1064 00:19:39,670 --> 00:19:41,760 1065 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,920 Min Society you know it's a cautionary 1066 00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:43,920 1067 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,760 tale so we set out to make something 1068 00:19:43,910 --> 00:19:46,760 1069 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,040 that was as real as possible and not 1070 00:19:46,750 --> 00:19:48,040 1071 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,520 everybody's going to get the message you 1072 00:19:48,030 --> 00:19:49,520 1073 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,520 know some people want to go out and 1074 00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:51,520 1075 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,520 replicate but other people it's sort of 1076 00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:53,520 1077 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,680 reflective so I think it really affected 1078 00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:55,680 1079 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,760 people emotionally so people responded 1080 00:19:55,670 --> 00:19:57,760 1081 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,960 to it either positively or negatively 1082 00:19:57,750 --> 00:19:59,960 1083 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:05,360 based on own personal 1084 00:19:59,950 --> 00:20:05,360 1085 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:08,240 experience [ __ ] that rushing n rushing 1086 00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:08,240 1087 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:10,440 the character of Kane is somebody that 1088 00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:10,440 1089 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,960 almost anybody can empathize if not 1090 00:20:10,430 --> 00:20:12,960 1091 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:15,880 sympathize with you see in the early 1092 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:15,880 1093 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:17,400 scenes of him seeing his father murder a 1094 00:20:15,870 --> 00:20:17,400 1095 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:21,240 guy right in front of him as a little 1096 00:20:17,390 --> 00:20:21,240 1097 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:23,480 kid what chance did he ever have not to 1098 00:20:21,230 --> 00:20:23,480 1099 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,200 have his life go along this path but you 1100 00:20:23,470 --> 00:20:25,200 1101 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,760 can also see that he wants to break out 1102 00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:27,760 1103 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:31,440 of it he just doesn't know how and it's 1104 00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:31,440 1105 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:34,320 tragic that the decisions he makes to 1106 00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:34,320 1107 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:37,880 escape this life come too late for him 1108 00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:37,880 1109 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:40,680 and it's a cautionary note fight 1110 00:20:37,870 --> 00:20:40,680 1111 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,120 fight the reaction was what we wanted we 1112 00:20:40,670 --> 00:20:42,120 1113 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,480 had a lot of people other than black 1114 00:20:42,110 --> 00:20:43,480 1115 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:45,920 people other than Latin people come up 1116 00:20:43,470 --> 00:20:45,920 1117 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,320 to us and say wow I never knew that that 1118 00:20:45,910 --> 00:20:47,320 1119 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,800 happened to these kids or that's where 1120 00:20:47,310 --> 00:20:48,800 1121 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,840 they came from and that's why the way 1122 00:20:48,790 --> 00:20:50,840 1123 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:55,400 they are 1124 00:20:50,830 --> 00:20:55,400 1125 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,400 hey do you care whether you live or 1127 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,000 die I don't know 1129 00:21:02,790 --> 00:21:05,860 [Music] 1131 00:21:11,230 --> 00:21:20,660 [Music] 1133 00:21:23,770 --> 00:21:35,950 [Music] 61539

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