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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,279 --> 00:00:08,960 The most common mistake that writers 2 00:00:07,279 --> 00:00:10,960 make, especially young writers, is they 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,559 don't do an outline. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,040 Uh they just wing it and they just 5 00:00:12,559 --> 00:00:16,960 start, you know, and and it that takes a 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,119 certain amount of discipline, but I 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,680 guarantee you that is a discipline that 8 00:00:19,119 --> 00:00:23,039 will pay off in 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,039 you're you're you're going to have 10 00:00:23,039 --> 00:00:27,199 you're going to do a better book. It's 11 00:00:25,039 --> 00:00:30,720 going to take less time. You know, I 12 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:33,040 will I will write anywhere from three to 13 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,200 six drafts of every outline. It's and 14 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:39,160 that's the most important piece for me. 15 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,160 Literally writing that outline. 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:48,399 Everything should be in the outline. The 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,079 the the arcs of the characters, the the 18 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:52,239 main characters anyway, the the 19 00:00:50,079 --> 00:00:54,239 villains, if they're villains, got to be 20 00:00:52,239 --> 00:00:55,920 in there. And and and the villains need 21 00:00:54,239 --> 00:00:58,719 to be complex. They cannot be 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,879 simple-minded villains. I really want to 23 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:05,640 build it around that the nugget of the 24 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:05,640 idea. I want to put in as much 25 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:12,080 really juicy stuff as I can. And that if 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,600 I read that outline or anybody read the 27 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,680 that outline, they would say, "What a 28 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,840 terrific story 29 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,600 and and how well you figured out these 30 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,520 scenes." The outline should have tons of 31 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,439 promise. you should be going, I can't 32 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,400 wait to read this scene or I can't wait 33 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:29,680 to write this scene because it's such a 34 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,920 rich idea for a scene. Uh the drama 35 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,680 between these characters is just, you 36 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,320 know, it's it's just so delicious to to 37 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:39,360 sink my my pencil into, sink my teeth 38 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:42,159 into, sink my typewriter into, sink my 39 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,560 computer into, whatever you're sinking. 40 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:46,560 Um, so I mean, and that's that's one of 41 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,920 the beauties of I mean, some days you I 42 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,280 can't wait to write these next two or 43 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:55,720 three chapters just because they're the 44 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,720 the potential is so great. 45 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:06,000 The only time I ever face the the blank 46 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:08,479 page is when I start the outline. And I 47 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,080 don't find that that daunting because 48 00:02:08,479 --> 00:02:12,480 when you write an outline, you're not 49 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,920 even thinking about sentences. You're 50 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:17,360 thinking about laying the story. And 51 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:19,360 that, by the way, is is another tip. Uh 52 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,920 when you're writing a story, don't think 53 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,920 about the sentences. Think about the 54 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:25,680 story. Write the story down. We all know 55 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:27,840 how to tell stories. We tell stories all 56 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,560 the time. You You already know how to do 57 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:34,760 it. Write the story. Don't write 58 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,760 sentences. Write the story. 59 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,360 what I do in terms of turning uh you 60 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,280 know once I get that that idea that I 61 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,599 love or you get that idea that you love 62 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:49,440 I'll then just start writing scenes down 63 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:51,840 just one line two lines you know Alice 64 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,239 Cross starts in his house he's playing 65 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:57,040 the piano he's playing Gershwin he gets 66 00:02:54,239 --> 00:02:58,959 a phone call from Samson 67 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,840 something 68 00:02:58,959 --> 00:03:04,159 um fresh and exciting that grabs you so 69 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,400 you want to go with cross into the next 70 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:08,319 scene, but I'll just keep writing out 71 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:12,000 scene after scene almost as though it's 72 00:03:08,319 --> 00:03:14,560 a movie. And um at a certain point, I 73 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:18,080 will organize those scenes. 74 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,920 Uh now, the thing about scenes is when 75 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,120 you're writing a story, I'm going to say 76 00:03:19,920 --> 00:03:22,400 there are an infinite number of 77 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,400 possibilities for scenes. There aren't 78 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:29,040 an infinite number, but there are an 79 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:30,560 awful lot of potential scenes. So, um 80 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,080 and you have to be aware of that. And 81 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,040 ultimately you have to choose the best 82 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,879 scenes. But but it starts with just 83 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,319 scene after scene after scene. Now in my 84 00:03:36,879 --> 00:03:40,319 books obviously there are a lot of 85 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:42,560 scenes. There might be 120 different 86 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:44,480 chapters or whatever. Your book might 87 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,799 have 30. It might just be 30 scenes. 88 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,799 Whatever the heck it is. But but just 89 00:03:46,799 --> 00:03:51,360 keep writing out that those couple of 90 00:03:48,799 --> 00:03:53,200 lines. Eventually I'll start getting rid 91 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,799 of ones and I'll keep adding them. And I 92 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,840 might do that for a couple of weeks just 93 00:03:54,799 --> 00:03:59,840 writing scenes down possible scenes. Um, 94 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,640 at a certain point I, as I said, I will 95 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:05,040 put them in an order and then, um, I 96 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,280 start fleshing them out a little, not a 97 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,920 lot. I mean, every once in a while I'll 98 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,159 I'll do one in a week and a half, but 99 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,319 more often they'll take me a month or 100 00:04:12,159 --> 00:04:16,720 two months, and there'll be three, four, 101 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:18,959 five drafts. And every draft, just like 102 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,959 I was writing a novel, I'm layering on 103 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:21,959 more. 104 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:30,160 One of the questions that people will 105 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:33,360 ask has to do with how how how does the 106 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:35,440 mystery move forward? Do you do you blow 107 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,199 it all early? Do you blow it in pieces? 108 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,639 Do you 109 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:42,479 um and and and I think that really comes 110 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:43,919 down to your to your gut and how you're 111 00:04:42,479 --> 00:04:45,759 going to and and and that needs to get 112 00:04:43,919 --> 00:04:48,720 established real early in terms of your 113 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:51,759 outline and stuff. If you're going to 114 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,120 reveal a lot of the mystery early, you 115 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:54,479 have to have a reason to do it and it's 116 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,160 got to be able to go somewhere from 117 00:04:54,479 --> 00:04:57,759 there. I mean, that's one of the tricks. 118 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,320 Don't don't write yourself into a 119 00:04:57,759 --> 00:05:02,000 corner. Uh, and that really is 120 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,360 important. You really have to be 121 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,880 careful. And that's the beauty once 122 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,280 again of being able to look at it in 123 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,120 outline form. You can see where, oh my 124 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:10,479 god, where am I going to go from here? 125 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,840 There will be a couple of time, you 126 00:05:10,479 --> 00:05:15,280 know, maybe once or twice when I write 127 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:18,720 the outline where literally all I do is 128 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:20,880 write twists. It went here. Eh, I'm 129 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,800 going to take it here. Okay. It went 130 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,560 here. Too expected. I'm going to take it 131 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:27,280 here. And what does that do to the whole 132 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,840 story? Okay. And sometimes a twist, I 133 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:32,400 mean, it changes everything, but better 134 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:34,960 to do that at the outline stage than 80 135 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:37,360 pages into the book. You're not gonna 136 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,400 wake up six months into the process and 137 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,720 go, "Oh [ __ ] man. I wrote myself into a 138 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,320 terrible corner. I'm dead. I got to 139 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,840 throw out six months worth of work." 140 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,639 When you read about writers all the 141 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:50,400 time, and and it happens occasionally, 142 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:52,720 but it shouldn't happen much, especially 143 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,039 with commercial fiction. You should not 144 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,960 have to throw out 145 00:05:55,039 --> 00:05:59,600 six months worth of work. And and it and 146 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,360 it happens and or it's not working. Oh 147 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,520 my god, it's not working. Well, if you 148 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:08,520 spent more time with the outline, even 149 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,520 if it's an extra month, so what? 150 00:06:11,199 --> 00:06:15,919 When I do the outlines and even even the 151 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:18,560 manuscripts, I will put notes to myself 152 00:06:15,919 --> 00:06:21,759 all the time or if if I'm writing with 153 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,680 somebody, notes to the coowwriter. Uh 154 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:25,600 things that I think are essential to 155 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,360 make that scene work. If we don't get 156 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,039 that if I don't get that part right or 157 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,720 if we don't get that part right, the 158 00:06:29,039 --> 00:06:33,199 scene isn't going to work. 159 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,840 I will not write 160 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:37,440 a note like, you know, with with Max in 161 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:38,639 the beginning of Maximum, right? I'm not 162 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,199 going to write things like she needs to 163 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:44,240 be cool and mysterious because it 164 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:46,240 doesn't that doesn't help me. Uh what 165 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,919 does cool mean? And that just that's 166 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,160 just a cliche that doesn't get me 167 00:06:47,919 --> 00:06:53,759 anywhere. So, I might write a little 168 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:56,160 note that gives me an idea 169 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:59,840 about 170 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:01,759 why she's cool. some something that that 171 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:03,759 she's going to do or some observation 172 00:07:01,759 --> 00:07:06,720 that she's going to have that it's just 173 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:08,639 a cool observation. Uh so I might write 174 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,960 a little note about that and sometimes 175 00:07:08,639 --> 00:07:12,960 I'll just put that note to myself, you 176 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,639 know, that this needs to be scary or 177 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:18,560 it's not going to work. Not going to 178 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:20,319 work or or that I need to feel 179 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,360 more than more than I have in the whole 180 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:26,000 book the relationship between these two 181 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,680 people in this chapter or none of it's 182 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:30,479 going to work. you know, we've been 183 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:35,039 building to things and and along the 184 00:07:30,479 --> 00:07:37,520 way, you know, and that should all be 185 00:07:35,039 --> 00:07:41,360 70% of it, 80% of it should be in the 186 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:43,280 outline then, you know, and it's not 187 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,319 mechanical because that's creative. That 188 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:49,840 is that is a book. It is a book called 189 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:51,039 an outline. And if that book is great, 190 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,800 you ought to be able to sell your 191 00:07:51,039 --> 00:07:56,759 outline to a publisher if it's if it's 192 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,759 done the way it should be done. 193 00:07:59,039 --> 00:08:03,840 One way to break down your outline is 194 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:06,080 what happens to that character through 195 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,680 the length of the story. What happens to 196 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,599 this character through the length of the 197 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,560 story? What happens to this character? 198 00:08:09,599 --> 00:08:15,199 And are those plot lines interesting? Am 199 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,440 I interested not just in, okay, they're 200 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:19,759 going to find out who's killing old 201 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:22,479 women in San Francisco. Not just that, 202 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:24,400 but why am I interested in that person 203 00:08:22,479 --> 00:08:26,720 in addition to the fact that he or she 204 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,919 is solving this crime? What happens to 205 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:33,279 them? In the Women's Murder Club novels, 206 00:08:29,919 --> 00:08:35,360 uh, invariably there are two or three 207 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:38,000 crimes being dealt with in every in 208 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:40,240 every novel. So, there are three crimes 209 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,159 to follow and hopefully they're all 210 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,800 fascinating and different and things you 211 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:47,920 haven't read about before. 212 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:50,240 Um, and and and then we have the the the 213 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,160 four uh main characters and what's 214 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,600 happening in their lives. So, what's 215 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,880 happening with Lindsay? Oh, Lindsay's 216 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,399 going to have a baby. Holy [ __ ] You 217 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:01,680 know, after all these years, uh or or 218 00:08:58,399 --> 00:09:04,160 you know, uh uh Yuki is still 219 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:06,399 a lunatic and and unable to get out of 220 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,560 her own way in a lot of ways. So, so 221 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:11,680 that's a continuing and and and you want 222 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:13,680 those characters to to change and you 223 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:17,560 want conflict to come into how they're 224 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:17,560 handling life as well. 225 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,320 You should be able to read the outline 226 00:09:21,279 --> 00:09:26,959 and and and just go, I I get this book. 227 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,080 I I see how it flows. I understand why 228 00:09:26,959 --> 00:09:32,160 these characters are going to be 229 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:35,519 interesting to me. Um I I I feel the 230 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:37,600 twists. Uh, and then you know as you 231 00:09:35,519 --> 00:09:40,600 write it, it hopefully it gets even 232 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,600 better. 233 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:52,000 This is the enemy, the blank page. 234 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,160 This is the Oh my god. And you you 235 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,040 always you'll see this so so often in 236 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,480 the movies. Uh, and this and I think a 237 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,519 lot of screenwriters are frustrated 238 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,880 novelists and and you've seen this 50 239 00:10:01,519 --> 00:10:04,560 times in the movies and it that 240 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,880 shouldn't happen. That just that just to 241 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:09,360 me bad writing where they write the 242 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,040 first line and then they cross it out 243 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,240 and they write the first line again and 244 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,000 they cross it out and they write the 245 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:17,120 first line again, you know, and I I've 246 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,680 seen that literally a dozen times. But 247 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:24,519 it is there is a reality to it which is 248 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:24,519 that blank page is is is troubling. 249 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,959 Every author has a a different approach 250 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:35,360 or many authors have a different 251 00:10:30,959 --> 00:10:38,160 approach, but uh uh I really recommend 252 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,800 just crash through freight train through 253 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,640 that first draft. Get that story down. 254 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,120 Apparently, I guess Raymond Chandler had 255 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,600 that process. I have that process. A lot 256 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,360 of writers have that process. Get it 257 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,600 down. I've seen writers who can write 258 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,519 that first draft in a month. um I can do 259 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:57,200 the first draft in a month. At certain 260 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:58,880 times it's just flowing. Uh and I'm not 261 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,800 sure I don't know if it's health 262 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,440 related. I have no idea why, but 263 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:06,640 sometimes it's just flowing and it's 264 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:09,360 working and I can't write enough and I'm 265 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,200 amazed at how much I do in a very short 266 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,680 uh period of time. And then there are 267 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,000 times when I'll sit there and I'll write 268 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:18,240 chapters and I'll go, it's all coming 269 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:21,360 out flat for some reason. It's all 270 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,839 coming out flat. and eventually 271 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:26,000 something hits me and I go, "Okay." And 272 00:11:23,839 --> 00:11:28,959 I I'll go back and and polish the stuff 273 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,720 and and suddenly raise the level. I I 274 00:11:28,959 --> 00:11:32,240 don't know why that happens, but it it 275 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,279 it just seems to it's it's certainly 276 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:37,839 part of my process. Don't have blocks. 277 00:11:35,279 --> 00:11:39,360 Uh partly because if if a chapter if I'm 278 00:11:37,839 --> 00:11:41,680 not getting it and I know I'll just put 279 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,480 TBD and I get it on the next draft, 280 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:47,040 which is a useful and smart thing to do. 281 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,640 Do not torture yourself. just go, I'll 282 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,760 get it. And be confident that you'll get 283 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:54,079 it. That's how people get blocked. They 284 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,440 they get to a point and it's like, oh my 285 00:11:54,079 --> 00:11:57,120 god, I can't get this chapter. I can't. 286 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,800 And you then you start obsessing on it 287 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,640 and it's not coming. You get worried, 288 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,839 you get nervous, you get panicked. It's 289 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,120 sort of like these thing I guess that 290 00:12:01,839 --> 00:12:04,720 some couples go through and they can't 291 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:08,160 get pregnant. You start pressing too 292 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:10,560 hard and the mind starts getting tired 293 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,839 and you know it doesn't work. It's like, 294 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:13,200 you know, you're trying to do a sport 295 00:12:11,839 --> 00:12:15,600 and you get all tense. That's not going 296 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,680 to work. You're going to strike out. So, 297 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,760 so if you're not getting it, move on. 298 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:21,680 Get it the next time. Get it the time 299 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,440 after that. I mean, I've had times when 300 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:25,600 I've gone through where that TBD would 301 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:28,839 be on three or four chapters for a 302 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,839 couple of drafts. 303 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:35,839 I write seven days a week. I get up 304 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,680 early in the morning. Um, I'll very 305 00:12:35,839 --> 00:12:40,320 quickly go through two or three p 306 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:42,000 newspapers. Uh, have a cup of coffee and 307 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,320 go and I'll go through those in 15 308 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,079 minutes. you know, I have my little path 309 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,360 through the newspapers in terms of, you 310 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:50,800 know, the things that I always, you 311 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:53,200 know, want to read about. Uh, and then I 312 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,519 start writing uh whether it's outlining 313 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:58,560 or whatever, you know, book I might be 314 00:12:55,519 --> 00:13:00,160 working on. Pencil, I write in pencil. I 315 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:02,480 do not write at the computer. I'm not 316 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:06,160 suggesting that anybody do that. I write 317 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:09,839 on a yellow legal pad. Um, I write on 318 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:11,760 every other line. Um, I have an 319 00:13:09,839 --> 00:13:14,480 assistant who's now legally blind from 320 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,720 trying to read my handwriting. Um, she 321 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,560 will type up stuff, send it back to me. 322 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,720 Once I get it typed up, it will be 323 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:23,360 triple spaced. I write between the 324 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:26,000 lines. When I'll do a draft, a second 325 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:28,480 draft. When I when I write between the 326 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:31,519 lines, and I only when I'm going over 327 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,920 that draft, I only read what I just 328 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:36,320 wrote. I assume that everything that I 329 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:39,120 left there is just fine, which means 330 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:43,680 that I can kind of do a second draft of 331 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:45,600 that draft in no time. I um frequently 332 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:48,079 then will go out, this is just my own 333 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:50,000 nuttiness, and I admit this and this is 334 00:13:48,079 --> 00:13:53,040 just to show that I am a flawed 335 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:55,120 character with dark secrets. Uh I will 336 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,279 go out and walk a golf course for an 337 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:01,040 hour, hour, 15 minutes, a lot of 338 00:13:57,279 --> 00:14:04,000 mornings. Uh it I have no thoughts about 339 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:06,240 writing. I walk. I chase a little white 340 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,920 ball. I curse the little white ball. 341 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,800 Occasionally I praise the little white 342 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,959 ball. Rarely. Uh I come back and I 343 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:16,480 write. I'm refreshed. I've had a nice 344 00:14:12,959 --> 00:14:18,639 walk. It's good for my health. Um I 345 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,839 write some more. I'll write until 346 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:23,600 lunchtime. I 347 00:14:21,839 --> 00:14:25,760 six days a week I'll have lunch with my 348 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:29,199 wife. I love my wife. I like being with 349 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:31,120 my wife. Um I'll come back and write 350 00:14:29,199 --> 00:14:34,399 some more. 351 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:37,399 And um I I pretty much do that every 352 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:37,399 day. 353 00:14:39,839 --> 00:14:44,399 I have always been able to to I can sit 354 00:14:42,399 --> 00:14:46,160 here. I could stop what I'm doing here 355 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:47,920 and just start writing. I've always been 356 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,360 able to do that to just tune out the 357 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,320 world. And I think part of that is 358 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:55,040 because I just love it so much. And I 359 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:58,320 I've always been able to to focus on 360 00:14:55,040 --> 00:15:00,880 what I'm doing in a in uh in a very 361 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,399 powerful way. So, I you know, I don't 362 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,440 know where you come from. I don't you 363 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:07,600 know, you're going to have to figure 364 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:09,600 that out. But, uh uh it's useful if you 365 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:12,000 can write anywhere, you know, on a 366 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,720 plane. You can just tone it out and and 367 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:17,440 and focus and concentrate. And I guess 368 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:20,800 there uh uh you just do what you can to 369 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:22,880 try to practice that uh practice your 370 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,480 your skills of concentration because 371 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,199 it's not just a matter of being able to 372 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:29,519 write anywhere. It's really what you're 373 00:15:27,199 --> 00:15:33,040 really honing there is your your ability 374 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:36,160 to concentrate and um you know more and 375 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,760 more now we have a world where you know 376 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,519 people want to do two or three four 377 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,160 things at a time and they'll actually do 378 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:43,920 advertisements on television on oh isn't 379 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:47,120 this great you can do two things at one 380 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:49,360 time. I don't believe that. I don't 381 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,360 believe people do two things well at one 382 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,160 time. You certainly are not going to 383 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:56,480 write uh well while doing something else 384 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,800 in my opinion. So if you're writing and 385 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,880 and playing with games or it's just not 386 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,160 and and the more you do that the less I 387 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:05,199 think it lessens your ability to 388 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:08,240 concentrate. So whatever however you can 389 00:16:05,199 --> 00:16:10,720 do it uh and part of it is is is just 390 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,560 being able to just you know in the 391 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,800 middle anything be be able to write no 392 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,160 matter where you are but but but I think 393 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,279 the most important thing is is that 394 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,680 you're learning how to concentrate 395 00:16:17,279 --> 00:16:22,000 better, how to focus better. You need to 396 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:24,160 focus. You need to get in touch because 397 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,160 when you're focusing and concentrating, 398 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,759 you're actually getting farther and 399 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,600 farther into your story. You're more in 400 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:33,759 touch with it and you got to get into 401 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:35,839 it. I think sometimes if if I do uh go 402 00:16:33,759 --> 00:16:37,519 through a period where where it's not 403 00:16:35,839 --> 00:16:40,079 happening, I think it's because my 404 00:16:37,519 --> 00:16:42,720 concentration is not working as well and 405 00:16:40,079 --> 00:16:46,480 I'm not in the scene. I'm not there. I'm 406 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:48,320 not aware of who that character is or 407 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,920 who those characters are, how they I'm 408 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,440 just not into it. and and and that's 409 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,440 just a matter of concentration and 410 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,440 focus. 411 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,399 I've said it before, I I for me, I I 412 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,439 don't work for a living. I play for a 413 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:09,120 living. So, you know, I'm writing seven 414 00:17:05,439 --> 00:17:11,360 days a week. I I love it. Uh so I I 415 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:13,039 never, you know, want to be away from 416 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:15,039 it. I don't, you know, I don't want to 417 00:17:13,039 --> 00:17:16,400 stop. But if you need a break, take a 418 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:19,039 break. I mean, if you're feeling like, 419 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,559 man, you're overloaded, take off for a 420 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:24,959 week. Just don't do it. Do something 421 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:26,959 else. Stop. Uh cuz it is important. If 422 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:28,799 if you're getting a little neurotic 423 00:17:26,959 --> 00:17:30,320 about the thing, you just have to just 424 00:17:28,799 --> 00:17:33,840 turn it off. Put your mind somewhere 425 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:35,679 else. Stop the the the neurosis 426 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,000 uh uh from happening, the pressure, 427 00:17:35,679 --> 00:17:40,160 whatever you're doing to yourself. And I 428 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,679 would just go to the movies. I And I 429 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,039 would go to the movies, you know, almost 430 00:17:41,679 --> 00:17:45,200 every afternoon. Sometimes I'd see the 431 00:17:43,039 --> 00:17:47,440 same movie two or three times. Sometimes 432 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,240 I would go watch a movie for an hour 433 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,760 that I was kind of enjoying and leave 434 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,280 just because I felt like I don't want to 435 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,520 be here anymore. I want to go back and 436 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,200 write. And sometimes I would go back and 437 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,480 try to and and watch the second half 438 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,080 like the next day. But if you're 439 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,080 overloaded and it can happen and it 440 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:06,280 probably will happen. Uh sometimes you 441 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,280 just got to walk away for a little bit. 442 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:14,240 Let's face it, I'm not writing War in 443 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:16,720 Peace. I'm not writing Ulyses. Uh but 444 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,880 you know I I I always try to do the best 445 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,480 I can possibly do. When I used to be in 446 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,960 advertising and I think this relates to 447 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,600 a lot of jobs and I was you know running 448 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:28,880 a big group and I would say look let's 449 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:32,000 face it this is ridiculous. Okay we're 450 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:35,120 writing commercials about Ford cars or 451 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:37,679 or Burger King burgers or Toys R Us kids 452 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:40,720 or whatever. And it's kind of a dopey 453 00:18:37,679 --> 00:18:43,039 thing to do. But I'll tell you what, if 454 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,280 you make this little film and it's a 455 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:47,679 really good film, at the end of the 456 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,760 week, you're going to feel pretty good. 457 00:18:47,679 --> 00:18:50,880 If you condescend to it or don't give it 458 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,720 your best, at the end of the week, 459 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,880 you're going to feel like [ __ ] you 460 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:57,120 know? Would you rather feel pretty good 461 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,960 or you're going to rather feel crummy? 462 00:18:57,120 --> 00:19:00,799 If if you say pretty good, then then 463 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,200 really give it everything you got. So, 464 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:05,679 don't condescend to the genre. Uh uh 465 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,360 because chances are, you know, most of 466 00:19:05,679 --> 00:19:10,720 the people watching are never going to 467 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:12,880 be good enough to to to to do the genre. 468 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:16,919 Uh you got you got to you got to aim for 469 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,919 the stars with this stuff. 470 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:25,200 Even if it isn't that good yet, it's 471 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:28,000 okay. You're you're learning. You're 472 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,960 you're putting in your 10,000 hours. Uh 473 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,320 not that that's a magical number, but uh 474 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,480 uh you're practicing. you're getting, 475 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,919 you know, when I'll go to school school 476 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,080 with, you know, little kids, sometimes 477 00:19:35,919 --> 00:19:39,840 I'll go, who likes soccer? Yay, we like 478 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,320 soccer. You know, are you better now 479 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:45,120 than 3 years ago? We're better now. Yay. 480 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,720 How come? Because you play a lot. It's 481 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:48,640 the same thing with with learning how to 482 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,120 read. Same thing with writing. The more 483 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,600 you do it up to a point, the better you 484 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:55,760 get. You have to get to a certain level. 485 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,280 And at when you get to that level, I 486 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,120 think it becomes a very joyful 487 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,760 experience. At least for me, it always 488 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:03,760 was. And it's just it's a high. It's 489 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:07,640 just a high. It it was a high when I was 490 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,640 younger and it still is 491 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:15,200 obviously with mystery and suspense. 492 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,840 It's all about suspense. It's constant 493 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:20,240 non-ending fireworks. It's an adventure 494 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,679 that starts and and and and and it's 495 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,559 going to hold you at the edge of your 496 00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:26,720 seat right to the end. It starts big. It 497 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:28,559 gets even bigger. What happened? Who 498 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,919 done it? And the more questions the 499 00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:31,679 better. If there are three or four 500 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:33,120 questions in the book, are these two 501 00:20:31,679 --> 00:20:35,919 going to get together? Are they going to 502 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:38,320 separate? Uh uh what's going to happen 503 00:20:35,919 --> 00:20:40,240 be in this family if you set up family 504 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:43,520 turmoil? Are we going to find the 505 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:45,360 missing child? Uh but it and it's got to 506 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,360 be genuine. If it's just if it feels 507 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:49,039 like uh just somebody throwing in 508 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:51,120 devices 509 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:52,480 like if you feel the manipulation, you 510 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:54,799 lose them there, too. If the reader's 511 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,760 going, "This is just crap. This is just 512 00:20:54,799 --> 00:21:00,320 the usual. somebody's um you know trying 513 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,559 to manipulate me. They people kind of 514 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:05,880 want to be manipulated but they want it 515 00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:05,880 done well. 516 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,760 If you're going to write something in 517 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,000 the genre of mystery, suspense, I think 518 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:18,400 you kind of got to be aware of what's 519 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:21,840 out there. Not to to to imitate it, to 520 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,280 avoid it. Uh uh because I mean one of 521 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,520 the things you can do, let's say you 522 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,280 don't really write thrillers, but you 523 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,039 know, I know I can do it because I'm 524 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,320 smart and you know, whatever, but I 525 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:33,440 never read any or I've read four. um 526 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,559 there's a good chance you're going to 527 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,240 write something that's already been 528 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:38,880 written before, you know, or it's going 529 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,840 to be very similar or it's going to, you 530 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,480 know, and you're going to think it's 531 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,240 great and, you know, 15 years ago it 532 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,400 might have been great, but so I think 533 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:50,480 it's really useful to know what's 534 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:53,520 written and not not to write stuff like 535 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,760 it to totally avoid it. Okay, I know 536 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,919 what's h what's happened in the past. 537 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:01,840 How what's a new twist on this? What's a 538 00:21:57,919 --> 00:22:03,919 new twist twist on a murder mystery or a 539 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,679 uh a series of robberies or whatever it 540 00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:09,360 is that you decide is going to be 541 00:22:05,679 --> 00:22:12,480 fascinating for people to read about and 542 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:14,960 uh and fresh and new and you're going to 543 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,880 bring some insights to it and this is a 544 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:20,080 new kind of puzzle. I mean, look, the Da 545 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,840 Vinci Code, um, you know, all that, I 546 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:25,200 mean, what what was fascinating about 547 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:28,080 that was just the lengths that the 548 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:30,960 writer went in terms of creating this 549 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,919 unbelievably complex puzzle and and a 550 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,480 lot of people just found that 551 00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:37,039 fascinating. And it definitely was 552 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:40,000 unique. I mean, I I haven't read that 553 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:43,200 kind of complexity in a puzzle that I 554 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:46,960 can think of anyway or it's rare. So, so 555 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,960 it felt very fresh to people. 556 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:54,159 And one of the things with suspense is, 557 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:57,200 in my opinion, one of the biggest 558 00:22:54,159 --> 00:22:59,600 secrets of suspense is is setting up 559 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,559 questions that the reader must have 560 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:05,840 answered. Must must must. There's just 561 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:08,640 no way. And and in in my books, I try to 562 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,960 do a lot of those. When I did the first 563 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,880 Michael Bennett, 564 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,000 Step on a Crack, I mean, you you start 565 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,679 thinking about everything that's going 566 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:19,840 on early in that book. Um, one, which I 567 00:23:17,679 --> 00:23:22,880 think is really a tremendous hook for a 568 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,720 story. Um, there's one of these state 569 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,159 funerals where all these leaders come 570 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,120 from all over the place and they're in 571 00:23:26,159 --> 00:23:31,760 St. Patrick's Cathedral and somebody 572 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:33,360 holds up the cathedral. That to me, I 573 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:36,320 mean, imagine that happening in real 574 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:38,880 life. I mean, that's like 575 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,480 it makes OJ seem like a little baby 576 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,640 tail. I mean, you're kidding me. The 577 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,840 president, the vice president, uh, 578 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,320 president of France, you know, they're 579 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,480 all trapped in St. Patrick's Cathedral. 580 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,640 So, that's a really cool hook to me. And 581 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,400 then where's it going to go? Who's doing 582 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,039 it? How do they plan to get away with 583 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,200 it? So, that's a piece of it. Then we 584 00:23:55,039 --> 00:23:58,799 introduces Michael Bennett. Michael 585 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,120 Bennett. And once again, I don't write 586 00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:03,919 realism, but it's an interesting and and 587 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:08,000 I get away with it because I make 588 00:24:03,919 --> 00:24:11,200 Bennett so believable as a character. 589 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,520 But Bennett has 10 adopted children. 590 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,400 Holy [ __ ] And he's detective. And he's 591 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,720 involved with this this uh takeover of 592 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:22,880 St. Patrick Cathedral on that particular 593 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:25,360 day. And his wife is dying. I mean, this 594 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,039 is insane. And it's ridiculous. I mean, 595 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:30,559 as I say it, it sounds ridiculous, but 596 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:32,720 as a story, a certain kind of story, not 597 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:35,039 realistic page turner that you're going 598 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,799 to make believable. I mean, I'm all 599 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:38,480 totally hooked into this thing. What's 600 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:40,720 with the 10 kids? How can that happen? 601 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,400 And I and I I like the kids. I like the 602 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,799 way he reacts to the kids. And how does 603 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,400 he find time in the course of these two 604 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:49,279 or three days where they're holding all 605 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,960 these captives to to stay in touch and 606 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:52,960 and also stay in touch with his wife 607 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,360 who's who's dying of cancer in in New 608 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,840 York Hospital? And how do you make I 609 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:59,279 mean I I think a lot of writing 610 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,679 professors would go don't do it. Don't 611 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:03,679 don't write that story. To me that was a 612 00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:06,159 tremendous challenge in terms of no I 613 00:25:03,679 --> 00:25:08,480 can do this. I can do this. I can turn 614 00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:10,559 this into a coherent 615 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,360 kind of believable if you're willing to 616 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:16,000 go along suspend disbelief because 617 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:19,600 chapter by chapter I'm like okay okay 618 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,720 okay okay I'm buying it. If I step back 619 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,240 and tell you the whole story go oh my 620 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:26,600 god you're I actually try to pull that 621 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,600 off. Yeah. Yeah. I am. 622 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:33,760 You have the whole issue of uh uh of 623 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,159 stakes. What are the stakes in this 624 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,320 thing? I mean, all of the good mystery 625 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:39,840 writers are good at hooking you into 626 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,000 that story, hooking you into that 627 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:45,279 character, getting you interested right 628 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,840 away, having you feel that you're in the 629 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:49,360 scene with that character, and you love 630 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,360 you love the way they're they're 631 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:56,320 perceiving this room or or a bar or an 632 00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:58,320 alleyway or the tenement that they have 633 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:01,520 to go up to to find somebody on the 634 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,840 eighth floor, whatever. Um and and and 635 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,400 then once that hook is is set, it just 636 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,240 surprises the twists that keep 637 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,080 happening. Cross My Heart and Hope to 638 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,760 Die. We have the stakes of Alice Cross's 639 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,559 family. The whole family goes missing. 640 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,000 We think they're um they're dead. Alex 641 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:18,400 thinks they may be dead, but he's got a 642 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,760 tiny little bit of of of hope. And 643 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,720 there's the stakes. And if he didn't 644 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,919 have a tiny bit of hope, um the stakes 645 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,559 are, you know, there's no stakes 646 00:26:23,919 --> 00:26:28,159 anymore. He must have that. and and and 647 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:31,799 the fact that it's just a sliver makes 648 00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:31,799 it even more delicious. 649 00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:38,559 So, anytime I'm feeling that I'm 650 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,320 lagging, I'm I'm building in another 651 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:42,880 even if it's a red herring or some 652 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:46,000 misdirection or cross goes down the 653 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,440 wrong path that creates some new 654 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,600 questions that the reader, oh my god, 655 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,200 well, how can that be? Well, that may or 656 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,360 may not be accurate because as a 657 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,520 detective, he's he's going down some 658 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:57,200 blind alleys. But that blind alley might 659 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,240 really drive the reader crazy in terms 660 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,840 of oh my god, how can it be uh down that 661 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,080 alley because I I never I didn't see it 662 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:07,039 coming and I can't imagine how that's 663 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:10,320 going to lead to a solution. It's very 664 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:12,400 logical and and realistic for your 665 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,720 detective or protagonist or whatever to 666 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,799 go down wrong alleys. They do it. That's 667 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,559 what police work is all about. And 668 00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:21,520 sometimes in going down those wrong 669 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:24,080 alleys, you create 670 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,679 um possibilities in the reader's mind 671 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,200 that really make the book a lot more 672 00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:29,520 interesting. I mean, you can chase the 673 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,919 wrong thing. And it's fascinating for 674 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,600 for for the reader because that 675 00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:35,200 possibility hadn't really occurred to 676 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,480 them. And and and one of the things you 677 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,559 have to be very careful of is even when 678 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,799 you're taking them down a wrong path 679 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:44,320 that it's not one where they go, "Oh, I 680 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:46,080 get it figured out. I don't want to read 681 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:50,080 it. I don't need to read anymore." 682 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:52,480 That's death mostly. I got it figured 683 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:56,600 out. 684 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,600 Closed the book. Very unsatisfying. 685 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:03,679 We we get a series of questions or 686 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,279 sometimes just one or two questions that 687 00:28:03,679 --> 00:28:08,159 that the reader must have answered or 688 00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:10,559 the viewer must have answered. And 689 00:28:08,159 --> 00:28:12,240 ideally, you don't you what you 690 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:15,440 definitely don't want to do is give away 691 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:18,320 the answer very quickly. You you you you 692 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,919 know the the worst thing in the world is 693 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,279 uh you build up this thing, build up 694 00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:23,440 this thing, build up this thing, and 695 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:26,159 then you give it away in two paragraphs 696 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,000 and the reader goes, "What?" You know, 697 00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:30,720 no, that needs to be a scene. That needs 698 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:34,880 to be a satisfying scene. That needs to 699 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:37,279 even if it's a pretty good um uh reveal, 700 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,840 you got to milk it. You need to milk it. 701 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:42,640 And if you can give away your secret in 702 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,000 pieces, even better. Here's the, you 703 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,600 know, I don't know what it is, but 704 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,279 there's the first clue, and there's 705 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,399 another clue, and there's another little 706 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:51,200 tidbit, and there's another little 707 00:28:48,399 --> 00:28:52,960 tidbit, and then voila. Now, the trick 708 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,799 with that is is you just have to be 709 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,240 careful and smart about that. You're not 710 00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:59,520 giving away something where the reader 711 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,600 goes with 40 pages left, okay, I know 712 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,600 exactly where this is going and I don't 713 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,679 care. Sometimes when I'm when I'm 714 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,679 writing an outline or even even when I'm 715 00:29:05,679 --> 00:29:10,320 writing different drafts of the book, 716 00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:12,320 I'll write in twists. you know, it went 717 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,760 one way in that chapter. Okay, what if 718 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,320 it goes this way? And you always want to 719 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,480 be open. That's where you you come up 720 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,440 with cool stuff. 721 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,679 You you you keep thinking the 722 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,919 unthinkable, not necessarily writing the 723 00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:27,200 unthinkable, but thinking it. And every 724 00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:29,120 once in a while, one of those 725 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,360 unthinkable things you go, you know 726 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:34,159 what? I can do that and that would be 727 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:37,120 really cool and I can make it believable 728 00:29:34,159 --> 00:29:38,720 and that will make for a really unusual 729 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,240 satisfying 730 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,600 uh story that people won't be able to 731 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,440 put down and that they'll talk about 732 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,480 after they finish it. And and one of the 733 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,480 things I've done at times is I'll do 734 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,679 stuff like one of the women's murder 735 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,440 club I I knocked her off. Uh and it was 736 00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:55,919 like, "Oh, you're kidding. I don't 737 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,480 believe you did that. How could you kill 738 00:29:55,919 --> 00:30:01,679 her?" And you know how Jill, we love 739 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:04,000 Jill. And I did it cuz it it wor that 740 00:30:01,679 --> 00:30:06,240 was the story. It had to happen there. 741 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:10,720 Uh two, I didn't like the character that 742 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:13,840 much. Um and three, I really wanted to 743 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:17,760 set up the notion with my readers that 744 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:20,240 don't assume that that that anyone is 745 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:23,919 safe. Don't assume anyone's safe. Alice 746 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:28,840 Cross is not safe. He pro he's probably 747 00:30:23,919 --> 00:30:28,840 safe, but he might not be. 748 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:39,279 your ending is hugely important. Um 749 00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:42,720 because and this is true in movies and 750 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:44,559 it's it's it's true in books. Um because 751 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,960 that's what they walk they walk out of 752 00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:51,520 the theater either clapping and cheering 753 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:55,360 and feeling great and spreading the word 754 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,799 uh about the movie or or or out of their 755 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,279 apartments or whatever in terms of the 756 00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:00,799 book. Um and a lot of it has to do with 757 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:04,480 with with what you did at the ending, 758 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:06,559 how you pulled it all together. Uh the 759 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,399 surprise at the end, the the surprise 760 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:09,919 that that that that fits that's 761 00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:13,520 appropriate. 762 00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:16,000 Um, so you really have to make sure that 763 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,440 it's that it is satisfying. Uh, or 764 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,960 you're going to disappoint people and 765 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,039 you'll you won't get that good word of 766 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,520 mouth. Uh, you might not get published 767 00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:26,880 because there's no ending. It's not just 768 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:29,440 you, it's you and a reader. And I want 769 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,880 you to always think about that because 770 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,880 when when there's a when there's a 771 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,200 reader in the process, it's a different 772 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:39,120 thing. the reader sitting across from 773 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,480 you and um and and you're playing this 774 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,720 game. You're playing this cat and mouse 775 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,640 game with that reader and and and the 776 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:48,159 other important thing about that reader 777 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,519 is you have to go for the highest common 778 00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:52,720 denominator. I if you're going to write 779 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:54,720 a bestseller, there has to be common 780 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,880 denominator. It's got to work for a lot 781 00:31:54,720 --> 00:32:00,320 of people, but you want to write for the 782 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:02,480 highest common denominator. That's uh 783 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,960 it's a really good thriller reader. It's 784 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,880 a really good mystery reader because you 785 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,159 have to satisfy that person. If you 786 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,039 satisfy that person, you're going to 787 00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:12,039 satisfy everybody else. 788 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,519 It is rare. Uh, you know, I'll do the 789 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,600 outlines and I'm preaching outline, 790 00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:25,600 outline, outline. I almost never uh do 791 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,919 the ending that's in the outline. I 792 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,679 would well at least more than 50% of the 793 00:32:27,919 --> 00:32:31,679 time it's a different ending because 794 00:32:29,679 --> 00:32:33,360 just in writing the book so much has 795 00:32:31,679 --> 00:32:35,120 changed. So many things have happened. 796 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,399 The stakes get bigger and bigger and 797 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:41,120 bigger. Um the villain gets more 798 00:32:38,399 --> 00:32:43,039 interesting. Um something may have 799 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,039 happened to the hero along the line that 800 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:48,640 was a little unexpected. 801 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:50,960 Um, and and I I it's the ending that I 802 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:53,600 write in the outline is never and I 803 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,360 think part of 804 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,880 I I think part of the problem is is the 805 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:01,360 outline is is a bit more logical than 806 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,360 emotional and and by the time I get to 807 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,279 that ending, my emotions are really 808 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,360 churning and I'm always feeling it just 809 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:10,000 needs more. It needs more than this. It 810 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,240 it just can't be about logic. It it has 811 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,960 to be logic and emotion. You got to feel 812 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,640 something in most cases. Certainly in 813 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,960 commercial fiction, you should feel 814 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:22,000 something. You should, you know, and 815 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:24,960 whether it's a a tragic ending, uh, in 816 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,360 which you go, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no, 817 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,480 no, no, no, no." That can be incredibly 818 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:32,799 effective and appropriate. Uh, I can't 819 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,399 believe, oh my god, I I got to tell 820 00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:37,120 people, "Oh, Jesus." You know, that's 821 00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:39,919 that's good. That's a good thing. Happy 822 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:42,880 ending. Once again, that can be terrific 823 00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:44,799 if if it's honest. uh you know where 824 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,880 where that reader or or or the person in 825 00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:50,480 the movie is going, "Oh [ __ ] man. 826 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:54,360 That's oh yeah, baby." You know, that's 827 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,360 good. That's a good thing. 828 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,519 The ending should be really satisfying, 829 00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:03,039 surprising, whatever. But it's got to 830 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:04,880 it's needs to be appropriate. It's got 831 00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:07,600 to flow out of the out of the rest of 832 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,040 the book. Set up things that are coming. 833 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,760 Okay? All through the book, you're going 834 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,240 to be, you know, something's coming. You 835 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,879 need to set it up a lot of times for it 836 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:19,520 to really be effective. You know, in 837 00:34:16,879 --> 00:34:21,440 Honeymoon, the second chapter had to be 838 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,639 set up by the first chapter. Meaning 839 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:27,040 that if I hadn't seen that couple and 840 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:31,359 really loved them together, it would not 841 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:33,839 be terrific to have her show up at this 842 00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:36,480 next house. Honey, I'm home. Okay. So 843 00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:39,200 that chapter set up the the the the 844 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:42,159 second chapter in the book. You can be 845 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,839 12 chapters ahead and and beginning to 846 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,359 set up something that you know is going 847 00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:47,440 to happen at the end of part one. And 848 00:34:45,359 --> 00:34:49,359 you should do that. That's going to make 849 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,480 it, you know, you might be setting it up 850 00:34:49,359 --> 00:34:56,079 a couple times. And even in terms of 851 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:58,800 your ending, uh uh you can be you can be 852 00:34:56,079 --> 00:35:02,079 setting that up. Now, the trick with 853 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:05,280 with with setting things up is do not 854 00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:07,040 give away clues and hints where the 855 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,079 right then the reader reads it and goes, 856 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:14,320 "Oh, okay. I know who it is." That is a 857 00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:17,520 disaster. That is endgame. That is total 858 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:21,760 dissatisfaction with the novel and and 859 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:23,680 uh uh uh and and and the ending. So the 860 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:27,119 trick is how do you set it up without 861 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,640 giving it away or and misleading them. 862 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:31,680 That's that's another one of the things 863 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,520 you want to be doing. Mislead them. Have 864 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,680 them think it's going this way. Now the 865 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,359 here's the trick with misleading. You 866 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,839 cannot mislead to the point where they 867 00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:42,320 go, I got it figured out and I hate it. 868 00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:44,160 Okay? You're misleading them. But if in 869 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,200 misleading them they think they figured 870 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:50,400 it out and they go, "This sucks." That's 871 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:53,680 no good. That's no good. So, so much of 872 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:57,119 it is just you being really aware of 873 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,960 what you're doing. Um, 874 00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:02,000 uh, and what the effect of that's going 875 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:04,480 to be on another person. Okay? You're 876 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,079 you're, as I've said, I like to pretend 877 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,359 I'm sitting across from somebody. I'm 878 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:10,560 telling them a story. I don't want them 879 00:36:07,359 --> 00:36:12,400 to get up till I'm finished. Okay? You 880 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,119 have to do the same thing. You're 881 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,680 sitting across from somebody and it's a 882 00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:19,440 cat and mouse game. It really is. At 883 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,520 least with with this kind of commercial 884 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,640 fiction, you're playing a game with 885 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:27,119 them. Don't feel bad about it because 886 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,960 they chose to sit there. They want to 887 00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:31,119 sit there. They want to play cat-and- 888 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,119 mouse with you. They want that 889 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:36,320 experience. That's what they're paying 890 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:37,680 for. They're paying to to play cat-and- 891 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,240 mouse with you. And that's what a lot of 892 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,480 reviewers don't get. They're sitting 893 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:44,480 there. They want to play the game. They 894 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,760 want to play the game of mysteries and 895 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:50,240 puzzles and what's going to happen next. 896 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,960 uh and why did it happen and and and and 897 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:55,280 is it clever and is it logical? They 898 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,160 they want to play that game with you. 899 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,800 You got to play it on your side. Okay. 900 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,520 So So you need to be you need to be as 901 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:07,800 good or better than they are as as a 902 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,800 game player. It is a game. 903 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,200 What is a satisfying ending with Along 904 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:17,359 Came a Spider? the ending was not the 905 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:19,040 ending uh um from the outline. 906 00:37:17,359 --> 00:37:21,760 Um 907 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:24,880 but but what you had there was you had 908 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:29,359 Alex really falling in love with with an 909 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:32,640 FBI agent uh um who turns out to be one 910 00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:35,599 of the villains and uh there were there 911 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:38,400 were two two villains, one a real madman 912 00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:41,680 and the madman 913 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,680 uh sort of faked insanity. Um, so he 914 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,280 goes away to prison and he will 915 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:49,040 eventually escape from prison. 916 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:53,680 Meanwhile, Jezi gets executed. It's just 917 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:56,720 the irony of the really really hateful 918 00:37:53,680 --> 00:38:00,640 uh um bad guy kind of who's going to get 919 00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:06,480 away, who's going to skate. uh and and 920 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:09,040 this crashing of Alex's romance where um 921 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,880 the um the person who he's trusted and 922 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,560 been in love with is is is going to get 923 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,720 executed. I mean, that's that's 924 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,880 satisfying, I think, just because it's 925 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:19,280 just the irony is just so incredible and 926 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,599 the shock is so incredible and the 927 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:26,400 surprise and just go, "Yeah, boy, that's 928 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:29,760 I didn't see that coming and it fits and 929 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:33,800 holy shit." you know, so so so so that's 930 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,800 that's one way to do it. 931 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,599 In terms of your ending, the more artful 932 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:42,880 thing is going to be some ambiguity, 933 00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:44,480 some mystery, some uh something maybe 934 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,960 unsettling. 935 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,680 Uh uh and the critics will like it 936 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,839 better and some of your super smart 937 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,079 readers will like it better. And then 938 00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:56,240 some of the people that that really 939 00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:58,000 they're they're in a habit of what they 940 00:38:56,240 --> 00:39:00,320 like from the genre are going to like it 941 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,720 less. Uh so you got to figure out what's 942 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:06,079 right for you. I mean, just know that 943 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:07,839 that's the reality. Uh uh some of the 944 00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:10,320 the more adventurous readers are going 945 00:39:07,839 --> 00:39:12,800 to really like that ambiguity. Critics 946 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,119 are going to like the ambiguity. Uh and 947 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,960 some of the people that just, you know, 948 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:18,640 I want it to be the way it should be. 949 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,040 You know, they're not going to like it. 950 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:24,240 A lot of people had problems with that. 951 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:26,960 ending of that first book, which was 952 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:29,040 Alice Cross's family is missing. Sorry. 953 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,800 Oh, the spoiler alert. Hold it. Oh, too 954 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,920 late. I already told the pro, you know, 955 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,720 spoiler alert. Um, Alice Cross's family 956 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,160 is missing and and and presumably dead, 957 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:40,160 which you don't know. And a lot of 958 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,760 people said, "Oh, I can't believe it. 959 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,680 You bastard. You're just trying to get 960 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,640 us to buy another book." Well, I really 961 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:49,200 wasn't. Uh, I felt it was a terrific 962 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:53,040 ending, a terrific ending for the thing 963 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,480 to to just leave it there. Um, and and 964 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,280 people are funny, you know, they'll 965 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:59,599 watch television shows and, you know, at 966 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,839 the end of the season, the whole cast is 967 00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:03,359 in a plane accident and, you know, see 968 00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:05,119 you in September. And they go, "Oh, 969 00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:06,720 okay, fine." You know, I'm, you know, 970 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:08,400 we'll see you in September. You do it in 971 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:09,920 a book and everybody's birch. They're 972 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,640 writing letters and they're giving you 973 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,960 Fs on Amazon and Barnes & Noble and 974 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,960 stuff. you didn't give it an ending. So, 975 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:20,640 but I just felt it was the right ending. 976 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:22,560 A and B, I felt I had another 400page 977 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:25,119 book. So, I didn't want to write a 978 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,960 900page Alice Cross book, which also 979 00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:28,880 would have pissed people off. I don't 980 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,119 want to read 900 page. Well, you usually 981 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,480 do them. They're 4 to 500 pages. I mean, 982 00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:34,000 that's a weird thing of people. They get 983 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,800 used to stuff. And that's a genre 984 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,440 problem, too. Certain people get in and 985 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,880 they expect certain things in the genre, 986 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,920 and I don't like to do that. I don't 987 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,320 like to give them what they're 988 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,240 expecting, but I do I do some of that 989 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,119 anyway. It just, you know, because I 990 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:50,560 feel it's I feel it's right for me, not 991 00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:53,880 not necessarily because I feel it's 992 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,880 right for them. 993 00:40:56,240 --> 00:41:01,440 I mean, frequently there'll be an extra 994 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,599 ending or or an ending and then an 995 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,040 epilogue, uh, which may go a whole 996 00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:07,920 different way. People are more forgiving 997 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:10,480 of epilogues for some reason. So you can 998 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,079 you can you can make that e even in a 999 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,599 thriller. I mean one of the tricks with 1000 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:15,520 thrillers, 1001 00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:17,280 good thrillers 1002 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,680 is 1003 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,079 the best thrillers, not only do they 1004 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,760 have pace and excitement and suspense, 1005 00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:26,240 but you really get involved with the 1006 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:29,200 characters. Okay. the the so- so 1007 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:31,839 thrillers um 1008 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:33,599 are usually primarily the the pace is 1009 00:41:31,839 --> 00:41:35,839 good and the excitement is pretty good 1010 00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:37,599 and there's a suspense idea but you 1011 00:41:35,839 --> 00:41:39,200 really don't care that much about the 1012 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:42,160 characters 1013 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,560 are a little stock um uh but the best 1014 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,400 thrillers you really are I mean people 1015 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,680 really are involved with Alex Cross 1016 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,240 they're really involved with Lindsay 1017 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,680 Boxer and the women's murder club um 1018 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:54,880 they're involved with m with Mike 1019 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,720 Bennett and and that's really important 1020 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,359 And that allows you, you know, once you 1021 00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:01,440 have a series going, uh, um, you know, 1022 00:41:59,359 --> 00:42:03,040 you can have the ending to the suspense 1023 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,119 story and then you can have an epilogue 1024 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,720 where Alice just goes back to the family 1025 00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:08,640 and you're just happy that they're back 1026 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:10,560 together and it's a sweet scene and 1027 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,800 that's cool. that that works for 1028 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,880 everybody. And and and there that also 1029 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:17,200 gives you that option of one of the 1030 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,680 endings can be really ambiguous and and 1031 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:22,000 and and maybe not even an ending that 1032 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,520 you know that bad guy got away because 1033 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,640 you want to write about that that that 1034 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,240 that villain again. Um u but there the 1035 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,079 readers aren't going to go nuts. They'll 1036 00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:32,560 they'll accept 1037 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,240 um as long as that ending ending, the 1038 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,079 last one in the book is something where 1039 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:37,920 they can go, "Okay, yeah, I'm cool with 1040 00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:41,720 that. Lindsay Boxer had her baby." 1041 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,720 whatever the hell it is. 1042 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,520 You saw a movie, what worked, what 1043 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,760 didn't work. You watched a TV show, what 1044 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,359 worked, what didn't work. Uh analyze 1045 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,079 stuff yourself. I mean, just sit there, 1046 00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:56,400 you know, every ending you watch I if 1047 00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:57,760 you if you felt good about it, why what 1048 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,200 happened there that that made you feel 1049 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,319 good about it? Uh um and and and then 1050 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,079 there's no I don't think there are any 1051 00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:06,480 rule. Maybe there are maybe somebody's 1052 00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:10,079 figured out some rules. you got to go to 1053 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:12,480 somebody else's class for it. Um, but 1054 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:14,319 but do study, not to copy the stuff. 1055 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,760 Don't copy it, but but you know, you 1056 00:43:14,319 --> 00:43:17,119 should be taking notes in your head 1057 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,160 about what's working, what isn't 1058 00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:22,160 working, why did you feel satisfied? You 1059 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,079 know, go through anything you can 1060 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:27,960 remember. Why did that work for you? 1061 00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:27,960 What what happened there? 1062 00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:35,599 Now, here's the real secret, okay? uh to 1063 00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:37,200 endings. And and this is one of these 1064 00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:40,960 pieces that's worth the price of 1065 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:42,800 admission to to the class. 1066 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,560 When when it comes to endings, and this 1067 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,240 can be endings of chapters or or the 1068 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:51,280 endings of of the book, write down 1069 00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:53,359 everything that could possibly happen. 1070 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,839 Absolutely everything. I don't care how 1071 00:43:53,359 --> 00:43:57,760 ridiculous it is. Just keep writing down 1072 00:43:55,839 --> 00:43:59,280 this could happen. This could happen. 1073 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,640 Oh, let me see what else. This could 1074 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,599 happen. Think through all the 1075 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,040 characters. Just think through 1076 00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:04,319 everything that's happened in the book. 1077 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,839 Think through everything that hasn't 1078 00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:08,240 happened in the book. What could 1079 00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:10,720 possibly happen here? Bullet after 1080 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:14,079 bullet after bullet after bullet. Then 1081 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:16,240 pick the most outrageous one of them 1082 00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:18,319 that makes sense. It's got to make 1083 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:20,319 sense. It's got a track with the book, 1084 00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:23,760 but the most outrageous one is going to 1085 00:44:20,319 --> 00:44:23,760 be the best one in my opinion. 82671

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