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me to be able to myself is their

number first mistake.

Join us now as the investigative journalist Jeremy

Corbel.

Good to see you.

Corbel is an investigative journalist who helped obtain

and released the DoD footage of UFOs and

made contact with this DoD whistleblower as far

back as 14 months ago.

The front lines of UFO disclosure.

It is scary if that's true Joe.

I think you guys are.

investigative filmmaker Jeremy Corbel got a shout out

during the hearing for attending UAP videos and

releasing them to the public.

The images obtained by Jeremy Corbel, the Pentagon

confirming the images are being reviewed by a

task force.

The man who's been pushing for better transparency,

Mr. Jeremy Corbel.

It's everywhere as of late and now the

government's starting and I'm like what's going on

today exists.

I also wanted to thank the President Corbel

for writing these documents and access to some

whistleblowers.

The footage is incredible.

The United States government has gathered a great

deal of information about UAPs over many decades.

Biologics came for some of these recoveries.

Were they, I guess, human or non-human

biologics?

Non-human and that was the assessment of

people with direct knowledge on the program I

talked to that are currently still in the

program.

And Jeremy Corbel played a big role in

bringing these questions to the public.

If he looks familiar, that's because he was

sitting behind Braver, Grush and Graves today in

that testimony.

Thanks for having me, man.

It's the duty of journalism to investigate the

unexplained, not explain the uninvestigated.

Slowly the U.S. government has acknowledged that

they're real.

Corbel released these videos.

What else is weird is Jeremy Corbel said

a bunch of people are going to start

saying there's a mothership coming to Earth and

don't believe him.

Remember he was saying that?

Somehow he does have inside cons, but if

he says too much, he puts his whole

life in danger.

We've talked to you so many times over

the years.

You're one of the world's leading experts in

UAPs and UFOs.

It's the most unconventional figure in this space

covered in tattoos, a former martial artist, a

former artist, and yet he's somehow the one

in the know, standing at the center of

it all.

I've been holding a secret for about 11

years.

You know, absolute proof beyond any reasonable doubt.

UFOs are real.

They're threatening the life of a journalist.

Yes, you are.

Why?

Why?

Why?

Why you waited for 11 years?

Why didn't you do this that year?

I needed to verify it myself.

George and I will be briefing eight Congress

people on video.

I'm telling you this over the phone, so

any intelligence agency that has a Pfizer on

my phone, which my lawyer is sure they

do, knows that I am having that meeting

and now a lot of people know

about

it.

All right.

If you look in the 70s and 80s

with the CIA, they used to have reporters

on their payroll.

They don't respect anybody.

If you do something that kisses them all,

they're not going to come after you, not

only you, they're going to come after your

family.

And you've seen that happen?

Yes.

It's one of those things where if you

become a liability, if you really have stuff

that is that sensitive, that you cannot release,

you're relying on your connection as a journalist,

they're going to treat you to the dogs.

I've been having a very surreal series of

days, yeah.

Hey, thanks so much, man.

I appreciate it.

Of course.

The daily reality of how often do I

get contacted, government whistleblowers or just the average

person that says, what the fuck is that

I just saw?

You know, launch a star link or something

like that, a rocket, nonstop.

I don't think there was any fuckery, but

I need you to confirm.

So this is how it came.

How do you know what to go after?

I see original Polaroid, holy shit.

And where is this from?

It's from Los Angeles National Laboratory.

Your dad died, right?

He passed away about a month ago.

I'm sorry to hear that.

My dad died, too.

What was your dad's position and why do

we find this interesting?

He was in charge of all computer and

cyber security for the entire laboratory.

So I sent you some official documents from

the lab that talk about meetings they had

about atmosphere anomalies.

There's also some information in there about Russian

sightings.

I recognized some of the names because I

know a lot of these motherfuckers.

I had no idea what my father did.

He never discussed his job.

Why are you nervous?

Just tell me from legit why you're nervous.

I can tell you're nervous.

I don't belong in this world, but here

I am.

The UFO world?

I don't belong in this world.

I'm like the least qualified person on planet

Earth, but I thank you for your trust

because the one thing I am is I

am worthy of your trust.

I don't know.

I'm going to relax though because I feel

really uptight right now.

It's a crazy fucking week.

He was the most curious kid ever.

Then I heard that he was listening to

George Knapp.

Hello and welcome to One of the Records.

About nine months ago we invited former state

senate candidate John Lear to appear on this

program to talk not about politics but about

UFOs.

George Knapp, he's a journalist who broke the

story about Area 51 several years ago.

Thank you both for being here.

That just weaponized his curiosity.

Well, I did say, Jeremy, maybe you need

to find another career.

I said that to him and he's one.

Yeah, right?

He knows way too much.

I'm afraid he's going to die.

There is a hit out on him.

That's what I was told.

And he's now going to be able to

protect himself.

Am I an investigative journalist?

I'm a husband?

I'm a daddy to my doggies?

Really my business is apartments and properties.

This is the glorious life of a UFO

hunter.

There's the maintenance and the renting.

This is how we make our money.

So it's like the UFO thing for me

is out of passion and because I love

it, these are solvable problems compared to the

UFO thing.

The UFO thing unimaginably difficult.

I don't know what to say about it.

How does somebody get so deep into the

UFO subject?

To really understand the full picture, I'm going

to need to start where it all began.

Tissue is a deep area.

Yeah, stop.

I'm not going to fucking hate it.

Do you need to go see Sensei Jeremy

Corkell?

Martial athletics, I sense it nine years old.

You know, first time I was able to

punch somebody in the face and not get

in trouble for it.

I was in severe pains, what you'd call

growing pains, but I had my hips x

-ray.

They're thinking about coming and cutting out the

bursa.

I mean, all sorts of crazy stuff.

I was also very inflexible because of this.

I have ADD and a decoding disability that

makes it very difficult sometimes for me to

focus and concentrate.

Or at least you're really used to it.

I'm highly dyslexic.

I have one of the highest levels of

dyslexia.

Needless to say, growing up was a challenge,

okay?

But what I realized is obstacles are opportunities.

I could see where I was going.

All these schools, more money than I could

ever spend realistically as a young kid.

So I had everything and I was just

curious.

Is it possible there's anything else for me,

my spirit, like what I'm to do, and

goddamn did life answer.

So I was in Nepal.

I was like, where's the easiest place to

keep moving, to keep going?

I was like, okay, I'm going to go

to India.

When I started getting sick, I thought I

had bronchitis or something, you know, take antibiotic.

I remember calling my mom and dad and

telling them something isn't right.

Like, I'm coming home.

He sort of blows things off like, oh,

it's no problem.

I'm not stressed.

I can handle it, but as a mom,

I had contracted valley fever, but it had

become so corrosive in my body untreated because

I was overseas.

It had fucked up my kidneys, my liver,

my heart, my lungs, but it was also

in my bloodstream.

Being a martial athlete, that was my entire

identity.

When your identity is so wrapped up into

something and then you don't have that animal,

you can't do that anymore.

You feel like you die.

I started taking apart computers, putting them back

together again, just something I could do mentally.

An exhibit honoring Afro Sharon Tate was on

display in Culver City.

It was a symbol of freedom and she

was a symbol of love.

I don't even know how that happened.

Total accidental artists.

Whole career was because of an illness, you

know?

And I was having testing done like every

three days for blood, so they always took

it and looked really beautiful.

It was red, you know?

And so then they gave me, I said,

well, that's beautiful.

I need that for my work.

And so then they gave me, I have

loads of it.

I got a camera for my wedding.

I started practicing on my honeymoon.

Like, how to use it.

He did those black and whites out there

and that's when I started learning about where

his brain was going.

The first person that I ever pointed a

camera at and was like, oh fuck, it's

like a Rubik's cube.

You know, I gotta get this person talking.

It was really hard was John Lear.

In more than five years since we've been

hosting these programs, no guest has inspired such

a widespread and enduring audience response as has

John Lear, son of the famed aviation pioneer,

and the world-class pilot in his own

right.

That was approached by a government theoretical physicist

who employed by the government, who works on

his answers up at room like, he has

seen the aliens, he is tired of the

cover up.

John Lear, people know about him because his

father was the inventor of the Lear jet,

eight track stereo.

This is a guy that had some credibility

in some ways publicly.

He was the person that you want to

be able to interview and talk with about

this phenomenon.

I am so hungry and curious to know

what I don't know.

I mean, it's like a sickness, bro.

It's like, it's a sickness, you know, like

my curiosity.

It's a sickness.

The government has retrieved between 10 and 15

lateral flying saushers, three of which have been

in perfect condition, one of which they tried

to fly.

They have between 30 and 50 alien bodies

in cryogenic story.

It's not about your foes to me.

You know, what got me interested?

Well, I always point to what I heard

Bob Lazar on the radio.

Well, there's several, actually, nine flying saushers flying

discs that are out there of extraterrestrial origin.

I was a 13 year old idiot kid,

but that really sparked me.

But, you know, I put that down.

I didn't devote my life to it from

there.

Bob Lazar is the reason why you know

about Area 51 and you know about UFOs

and popular culture.

The original, I guess, whistleblower about the UFO

thing.

He says he was hired to work at

an area called S4, which is a few

miles south of Grum Lake.

At S4, he says, are flying saushers and

other working examples of technology that is seemingly

beyond human capabilities.

The live interview with the shadowy dentist drew

international attention.

His real name is Robert Lazar.

The choice of dentists was an inside joke.

He says that's the name of his superior

at Grum Lake.

It wasn't a joke to dentists.

Why did I go for John?

Probably because, you know, in this part of

my brain, I knew that the Bob Lazar

story was somehow filtered through Lear.

That's my driveway.

That's Bob.

I remember trying to get a hold of

Lear for over a year.

Hi, Mr. John Lear.

I'm not at home right now, but please

leave the message and I'll get right back

to you.

Thanks.

But I remember at one point, I just

cold called his phone and he picked up.

I couldn't believe it.

And then how open he was with me.

So I just saw this like window, you

know, there he is.

And I said, hey, man, I want to

learn about UFOs.

Come on over, Jeremy.

What the hell?

You know, what's this crazy person?

He doesn't know me.

And I didn't even really tell him I

was a filmmaker because I wasn't a filmmaker

at the time.

So I said, cool.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I want to bring, you know, a camera

and kind of documents into what you're saying.

And I think he was just hungry for

attention.

He said, come on over.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Come to Vegas.

Lost Vegas in Nevada.

Come on over.

I'm like, OK.

Hey, John.

I'm out at the gate.

And then

of course when I got there, he wouldn't

say shit to me.

So like at the time he wasn't supposed

to smoke and drink and all that stuff,

he always man.

He made me get like ghosts, get him

cigars and sneak them in the house.

All the stuff his wife didn't want to

have.

Jeremy, sneak me in a five pack of

Philly Titans.

You can get him at Walgreens.

And I wasn't getting shit from him unless

I brought the cigars, you know.

Being 13 years old, I was so influenced

by this thought that there's a prolific, intelligent

life.

Technologically advanced everywhere.

That's how I heard a John here.

I've no fucking idea where this is going.

But my journey now is to tell the

real story, the real message.

It's the start of a new journey in

my life.

He was so passionate about it.

I was happy for him.

I didn't think he would make any money

having that as a career.

I hope it answers questions and I hope

it gives me a million others.

His toilet would be broken and it's like

ghost flushing and I can hear the sound

in my footage.

So I go and fix the ghost flush

and the toilet because I've done it a

billion times because of my history of maintenance

and property and all this stuff.

And once he realized that I could do

that, game over man.

I'm like the handyman at his house.

And then computers, forget about it.

The whole thing and this just has the

contacts.

John there wouldn't tell me shit about UFOs.

But once he started, it was years, man.

Just telling me everything.

The moon was constructed in Jupiter about 20

billion years ago.

And it was towed to Earth sometime between

that 20 billion years and now.

There's been many many civilizations on the Earth.

One of the most advanced civilizations is buried

under the Sahara Desert.

They were erased and then they grow again.

They were erased.

This is where you get all these stories

about the civilizations like Atlantis and Lemuris.

Anyway, the moon is a place for the

guards to be sure that we don't escape

or don't get away.

While we're on Earth, we're touring our souls.

This is John Lear from the Lear Family.

And the guy had this personal story that's

so wild and where did he end up?

Who's imprisoning us?

Those guys.

The bad aliens, they do interfere with our

lives.

As a matter of fact, they're pretty much

in control of Earth right now.

There was a table of scientists there.

Oh, thanks, darling.

I had to make it a little healthier

for the kids.

Because I had to put chicken on it.

Do you mean anything to drink honey?

What?

You mean anything to drink, you guys?

No, this is fantastic, but I could have

a glass of water.

Well, John Lear was a real crazy, conspiracy

guy.

But he was, Jeremy was fascinated with him.

With John, it wasn't so much what was

true.

How did this guy come to believe these

things that are so extraordinary or wild, right?

Yeah, the guy I was talking to here

helped build the pyramids.

And he helped build the pyramids back in

the day?

Yeah, these are gods.

How did he do that?

The aliens are gods demons or something.

I was just kind of documenting this human

being that had these ideas that were so

far out there.

We had landed on the moon before.

He said six times, but just not with

people?

No, we never landed on the moon.

Did I say that?

As far as Dr. Mitchell and whether he

believes or not that he went to the

moon.

Lift off.

We have lift off with Apollo 14, three

minutes past the hour.

This is very tough because Dr. Mitchell is

a hero.

He participated in that program.

He's going to be very irritated to know

that he's been the victim of mind control.

Well, he didn't introduce me to Dr. Mitchell.

He more or less challenged me.

Ladies, you have a photo director and sent

you to the staff of the group of

the Dean of the Vermont Partners folks.

Dr. Alvin Wayne is joined by Captain Edgar

Mitchell and Apollo 14, and pilot.

This is the sixth person to ever walk

on the moon.

Why do you think that there's people that

no matter how much proof you give them?

They don't want to believe that you walked

on the moon.

Bob's friend, a guy named John, John Lear,

he might have heard of him before.

He's the son of the guy that invented

the Learjet.

I know, I know.

It was one of those people that just

doesn't buy NASA's story about the moon landings.

I was not aware that that was Lear's

attitude, and I'm sure to hear that.

I know his father quite well, and that

makes no sense to me.

That's not why I was there.

I was there to talk to Dr. Edgar

Mitchell because he was born in Roswell in

New Mexico.

People talked with him without a filter.

Everybody involved with the Roswell alleged UFO crash.

They're going to, of course, talk to an

astronaut who walked on the moon.

I grew up near Roswell in New Mexico.

I was on my way off to college

when the so-called Roswell incident took place

in 1947.

He knows everybody from when he was born

and raised there.

Several of the people come to my sleeve

and say, can we talk about?

They said, well, the UFO idea, what it

turns out, these people were all descendants of

what I call old-timers.

For example, the descendants of the undertaker who

had provided small coffins out to the military

to carry the bodies of the agencies to

AT's.

That if you're an astronaut and you start

knocking on doors of government and start talking

to people, they're going to trust you.

So I knew that he had insight into

the UFO thing that he had not been

saying publicly.

I knew he did, but I wanted to

find out how much of that is belief

and how much of that is very specifically

the knowledge that he had that other people

didn't.

So that's why I was there.

I did not give a fuck about the

moon.

I did take this to the Pentagon a

few years later, and we did get an

interview with the intelligence officer, the Joint Chiefs

of Staff.

It's just not just government.

It's not just military.

It appears to be a cabal, President Eisenhower

on his retirement, warned against the military industrial

complex.

So what we have here likely is a

cabal of the military industrial complex, worldwide, that

has been able to control this thing and

hold it for their own purposes.

There's no question that David has very strongly

been here and are here.

Six men to walk on the moon, right?

Yeah, that's a pretty cool friend to have,

man.

He knew some people.

He could connect me with people.

That was really cool.

I learned a lot from him, not just

from him, but some of the people he

led me to speak with.

My name is John Alexander.

I spent 30-some euros on the military.

I went from private to Colonel.

My second career was Los Alamos National Laboratory.

I worked in aerospace.

While in the military, I created an ad

hoc group on UFOs and studied it subject

intentionally.

It was top secret.

And what you know is a both top

secret classes.

We had people from all of the services,

the intelligence community, and aerospace industry.

What we found was not at all what

we anticipated.

What does that mean?

Every agency was interested.

Every agency knew the stories.

Everybody thought somebody else was doing it.

UFOs are real, and I mean by that,

a very hard craft, a trans-physical reality

as we know it.

Whatever this is, is far more complex than

we ever anticipated.

We're not even asking the right questions yet.

Start a sentence with John Lear is.

Oh, John Lear is a very interesting and

colorful character.

Unfortunately, we violently disagree on notions of reality.

Certainly, I firmly believe that we did put

him on the moon.

You guys seem to have, you know, some

sort of respect for one another despite the

fact that, you know, he took it totally

crazy.

Yeah, well, let's understand.

I mean, his history with the United States,

Ireland, and we both were in Southeast Asia.

Certainly respect those kind of adventures that the

guy really had quite an exotic past.

Do you think he would intentionally lead me

the wrong way just for his own kind

of pleasure or?

I have no idea.

I mean, you're asking about his motive.

I have no idea or way to discern

that.

Free this.

I think they went to them.

Because they got on this big ass rocket.

He shot it up in the air.

You think they could have been fake?

No.

Do you ever ask yourself, like, are you

just nuts?

Am I just nuts?

Yeah, do you ever ask yourself sometimes?

Am I just nuts?

No.

I know this is all real.

That's where I'm at.

And if I'm not too bad, it's a

great ride, you know.

It was a constant barrage.

And to this day, a lot of it

was bullshit.

It doesn't mean he didn't believe it.

You know, he believed it.

You say this as if you've seen it.

So, how do you know?

About seven years ago, I was on abovetopsecret

.com, and a guy started to post.

His name was Sleeper.

Talking about being in the army and having

been picked up by aliens and taken all

over the universe.

He's talking about this guy, this guy that's

like a UFO Jesus.

I mean, some weird guy.

And like you said, he met the dude

online.

The dude wrote some books.

Well, he was brought here to Earth in

1952.

The main problem is to get out of

here this prison planet.

And according to Sleeper, I'm dying.

But when he says little angels like John

get passed right on through without judgment.

That's pretty strong.

And did you see the part yet where

I fucking made them meet face to face?

I guess, you know, proceeding with John, I

was wondering if at your convenience, if you

have interest, you know, to meet him.

Because as far as for his ideas, as

I've said, you've played such a pivotal role

in his understanding.

He has such an admiration.

It seems like it goes both ways.

Any month, any time.

You know, just for a couple days, a

weekend, you know, I could, you know, essentially

bring you out to Vegas.

Do you

want to do it over?