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the great movie director one of the most
awarded of all time if not the most
William Wier had a simple formula he
thought 90% of directing films was
script and casting and then he said the
other 10% was knowing how to get out of
the way when you've done the first two
things correctly um there there's a lot
to be said for that casting is vitally
important uh and um and it's a process
not to be trifled with to be taken very
seriously a director can guide a
performance in some instances maybe if
you're working with a child or a very
specific actor with a set of um
tremendous strengths but you know
another set of weaknesses it might be
possible to really mold a performance
but it's rare when that succeeds um you
you the the director really really needs
the actors to be uh strong and
especially in film there has to be some
kind of connection between the the the
you know the actor the performer and
that character that that that you could
just readily accept now there's some
great great character people who who can
surprise you and they can they can
create that connection in ways that you
never would have expected but that
connection is still there Merill Street
you know leaps to mind um Dustin Hoffman
some amazing uh characterizations and
you know they don't seem very much like
Dustin Hoffman at all and yet you know
uh believe me Tom Hanks is nothing like
Forest Gump uh but but there's a there's
an innate connection there that I think
if a director at and talk to any of
those actors before they were going to
tackle a role where they were going to
transform themselves they were they were
still building on something that they
understood and and felt um so you know
you you have to be very meticulous about
the casting
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process all of directing boils down to
taste you were talking a lot about
techniques and
options and possibilities and at the end
of the day it always comes back to that
that sense of what's good what's right
and you have to keep trusting that
feeling these things are not academic U
you know uh issues they they are they're
creative they're aesthetic when you're
looking at an actor's work whether
you're watching other movies or
television shows or plays that they're
that they're in uh and and you're trying
to make the decision about about the
casting you do have to you have to
follow your your gut conversations with
them will matter a lot sometimes uh
other factors will come into play that
by the way that actor has very little
control of for example if you're
building a uh you're casting a family
well if you put everybody's picture up
on a wall do you feel like they're a
cohesive unit can they look like a
family and the answer may be uh no with
you know with actor or an actress that
you're that you're really
considering as an actor
myself often disappointed by going in
auditioning and not getting a
role I was shocked when I began
casting
because I realized that as a
director most of the most of the people
that you're looking at in a casting
session can do the role in other words
they're talented enough they're
experienced enough they're intelligent
enough of course they can play the
role but of course most of them don't
get the role you have to select the
one and and there are so many
intangibles that come into play there
and again those um boil down to
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taste now I would suggest a few other
things to look
for I believe
that compatibility is important and I
don't just mean
Congeniality because you know it doesn't
matter if a person is uh Pleasant or
Sullen or funny and kind none of those
things matter again what matters is what
you get inside those framelines and what
that actor can do with those with those
scenes but you need a kind of creative
compatibility you need to believe
that that that actor
um and that character and your
sensibility is going to create a strong
Foundation um and if in conversation you
believe that the actor disagrees with
your approach you either have to think
it through and and and ask yourself is
the actor right here and am I wrong
which is possible because actors are
smart and they think about characters in
a very particular very profound and Deep
Way often but if there's a if there's a
disconnect the chances are you're not
you're not going to benefit Your Story
by trying to talk them out of their
ideas even if they're Pleasant about it
and they try their best they're they're
not going to own their ideas so it's
very important that they be able to put
their personal stamp on their ideas now
of course you're going to you're going
to give directions and suggestions and
they're going to have to do some things
that might be outside their comfort zone
that's you know those are are the
particulars those are the specifics but
looking holistically at should this
person be you know in this film or this
television show you you have to look at
that creative compatibility and be
honest with yourself about
it when I'm auditioning an actor and by
the way I don't always audition actors
very often I just know I want somebody
in a role and and there's also a kind of
an you know an easy consensus you're
talking to your friends you're talking
to the people uh you know involved in
the project uh you mention somebody's
name as it relates to a character and
everybody goes oh my God that would be
great and you know if you have a meeting
or a phone call or a conversation and
you sort of see that there's good good
chemistry you know you just you just
want that person in the role you know
trust that I've I've never I've never
gone wrong with that that kind of
thinking but whenever I'm working with
an actor and I think they're you know I
have a question as to whether they're
really right or not
um but there's something about them
intrinsically that I think you know
could really work and having been an
actor myself always trying to give an
actor every opportunity to to impress
and and and sort of um you know G give
their best to the audition uh I'll
often ask them to do it again and and
and and think of a direction to give
them it might not even be a Direction I
Would really give on a shooting day it
might it might be that their their
instincts are fundamentally correct but
I usually uh test the waters of my
making a suggestion offering an
adjustment and seeing how they handle it
because it's it's also useful to know is
this somebody who has that kind of
command of their of their talent of
their instrument or do they get locked
in on a particular I you know sort of
idea a way of presenting the scene a way
of approaching the scene and the
dialogue within it and if so you need to
know that and then say all right well
they're com this is their this is how
they see it this is how they feel it
they've obviously prepared it that way
and this is what they do and when you
push them outside of that prepared
approach they're they're going to be a
little bit at Sea and lost and you just
want to note that there are other people
who you know are improvisational and
inspired and they can begin to uh you
know to work with the scene in some
remarkable ways and then you begin to
say there's another element here this
person could actually improve the
writing they they could refine the
character they could think of of details
that none of us have have considered um
you know that's always an exciting
prospect when you can find that
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person I have definitely made some
mistakes and missteps in casting and uh
um probably the the only painful moments
of having to replace somebody on on a
production um have have really been the
handful of of times when I realized that
I made a mistake in the casting uh and
it's never never been the actor's fault
it's not that they're showing up late or
unprofessional or any of those things
that you can talk to a person about it's
it's usually that on some fundamental
level they're not clicking with the role
and the character the way you thought
they should and it's apparent to you
and uh there have been other times when
um especially with you know people
playing smaller roles they're just
coming in for the day where you know you
realize that um this that there's a u
there may have been someone else who
could who could have brought more to
this role and and yet for practical
reasons you know you you uh you you make
it work you know you you shoot more
coverage on them so that you're going to
have more options to help build the
performance um you may
stage the scenes in ways so that they're
not they're not they're not really
featured uh all that much uh if somebody
is really struggling with their dialogue
or with a character or grasping
something you might might suggest to a
director to Stage the scene more kind of
over their shoulder and so that when you
come around and shoot them for their
lines or their reactions you have you
know a lot more control it's always
always going to be the the the specific
shot for the specific moment and you
know then you you do a number of takes
and choose the ones that that work the
best so in film you can do a lot of
things to help make make a performance
work better uh but without meticulous
thorough casting uh in the beginning
especially with lead roles you're um
that that's that's going to be um you
know a huge U detrimental
um sort of misdirection for the for the
for the
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movie so there's there's Talent there's
skill
intelligence um those things are
important there there's also this other
intangible quality which is um let's
just call it
chemistry and if you feel like that
actor can can EMB body the spirit of
that character in some honest way in
some way that either entertains you or
moves you or fascinates
you um you should really respond to that
and keep note of that and that should be
a tiebreaker so you might have several
people who can play the part one person
might even be you know maybe a little
more experienced a a little more
creative a little more talented but I
would give the nod to the person who
seems to inhabit the character in a more
natural uh spontaneous kind of way
assuming that they they do have the
talent and the skills to be able to give
you give you what you need uh as an
actor that's that then they're they're
bringing that X Factor to a role and and
cameras film it's more important in film
than it is in the theater this this
factor that I'm talking about because
you know uh lenses do kind of see into
Through The Eyes into the soul and um
and it's you um it's a much more subtle
process and the more connected that a
film or television actor is to the
character um the more we as audience
members just believe it and lose
ourselves in it whenever possible I uh I
try to bring the actors together before
the final casting in pairs especially
you know U if they're going to be
friends or or you know uh uh you know
parent and
child um loved ones you know I I try to
see them uh together and certainly the
in the in the major roles very often
I will bring uh the actors who have
already been cast in to actually
audition with finalists so that I can
quickly see where there's a a natural
Rapport uh and a and a and a chemistry
and just observe it and again it's a
it's a very uh you know
elusive um imperfect process and I often
toss and turn during the casting process
it is it's one of the only phases of
making uh a movie or a television show
that I find really really
unsettling because these These are the
decisions that are going to transcend
the director's ability to solve a
misstep um you know be other than some
drastic measure like having to let
somebody go and recast
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