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I've never been a director who wants to
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put a personal stamp on a project based
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on uh a look or an aesthetic uh I've
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always thought of myself um you know
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more like a um I guess the way an actor
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understands a character tries to inhabit
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that character I want to understand the
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character of a movie and uh and sort of
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inhabit it as a director and try to
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fulfill the possibilities that I think
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are most appropriate now of
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course my personality my taste you know
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it's going to influence movies in
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similar ways and uh and you know I I I I
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try not to work in opposition of that
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but I like to try to to understand a
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movie and let it begin to talk to me I
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like to I like to begin to understand
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what's visually
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possible um and what would what would
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what would most um reflect I suppose the
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themes the story it it always keeps
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coming back to me to supporting those
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those ideas what's it about what's it
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trying to convey and you know and how is
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it supposed to to transport the audience
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audience how is it supposed to feel and
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then begin to understand what sort of
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visual style will enhance that how will
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it help us understand the characters how
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will it how will it help engage uh the
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audience um there's a kind of an ironic
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thing that happens that uh you know
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suddenly um you you you know you're
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going to you're going to hear a lot more
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um you know about that subject so uh now
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I'm thinking about becoming a doctor and
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suddenly there's a great docu mentary
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about you know what it means to be a you
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know an ER doctor and oh look at this I
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I I'm I'm really noticing that those
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people over at Starbucks you know
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they've got the their their nurses and I
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think I see a doctor over there and
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they're talking maybe I'll go up and
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discuss you know just talk to them about
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what med school they went to it's all
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boy this is amazing suddenly you know
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the the whole everywhere I look it's all
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about medicine and doctors well it's
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just that your antenna is tuned you know
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and my my my sense of this is that it's
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always that that information has always
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been there but now you've focused your
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train of thought I think as a
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director you have the opportunity to do
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the same thing to begin to focus on your
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subject and you'll be amazed how many
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ideas can start flooding your way and a
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lot of that comes to you as visual uh
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language and it's it's great to start
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taking notes you see a photograph pull
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it out well don't if if you can if you
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already own the magazine pull it out uh
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uh and collect it give yourself
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something to talk about to think about
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to dream about and just begin the
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process of understanding what that movie
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could be at least that's how I like to
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work um and uh you know I I I never have
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any interest in having uh you know a
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particular kind of shot that I always do
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to start the movie or end the movie or
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you know it's no signature no signatures
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like that for for me it's about you know
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a story finding its proper voice it's
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it's you know the it's its existence
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within the you know the medium of
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Cinema a lot of what we perceive in life
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has to do with light um
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bright uh
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shafts um Stark
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backlight um so that things are a little
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bit muddled uh distance um is is is is
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is often about a a you know the way the
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Optics work is H you you start to lose
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detail and you know you're not the the
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the light isn't registering with you on
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a distant um figure the way it does a uh
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you know a figure that's nearer to you
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and U so I've really come to to
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understand the power of lighting I think
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I grew a lot working with Roger deacons
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uh on beautiful mind he's a brilliant
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lighting uh DP he he doesn't even think
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he is or know he is and he suffers over
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it he's a very meticulous man um and his
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lighting isn't
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stylish but but it's so
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psychological and so much about evoking
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a feeling and um he he really
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understands how to make light um a
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character in a scene in a way that I I
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didn't really prior uh to to working
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with him and I really enjoyed that
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collaboration a lot of the
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um the warmth of the opening that's kind
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of enveloping and welcoming and it's
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subtly unreal it's a little too good to
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be true and it's the beginning of John
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Nash's Journey when we don't know that
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he's mentally ill we don't know that
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he's already delusional uh but you know
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he's full of Hope and angst and drive
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and ambition and U so even when it's not
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his point of view we created this pallet
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we kept calling it The Life Magazine
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look that was kind of not only nostalgic
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but it was also um it was also in a
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naturalistic way very beautiful and very
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um sort of inviting in a way um and that
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was the world that John wanted to be a
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part of he wanted to be in it and he
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imagined that he could be um and that
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was this you know world of Discovery and
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Academia and
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genius uh
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later shifting to the kind of the
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darkness the the the the the bright
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light and the Dark Shadows of the Cold
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War Noir section now that was that was
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my idea I knew I wanted to to move into
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something that was um a little bit
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artificial and spoke to um you know a
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sort of a reference of of uh what a
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mystery looks like uh what a cold war
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Thriller looks like but the way Roger
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deacons executed it was not you know
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um it was subtle and and yet you know
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really brought a lot of uh intensity uh
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to that section and those scenes in in
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in a great
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way Don
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Peterman was also the first
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cinematographer who taught me to
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experiment with um
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mixing um you know know shooting
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modalities so that you'd you'd use in
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scene big wide lenses like a 14 see the
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whole room put the camera high or low on
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the ground almost like a Citizen Cane
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sort of shot even though Splash was a
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comedy you know make it visual um don't
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don't shoot it like a straightforward
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you know uh um sort of U you know
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everything done with a 50 mimer lens
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kind of a kind of a um you know U
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storytelling and then crash in with long
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lenses so there's no reason to sort of
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say this is a wide lens scene and or
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lenses do another thing you know they
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draw they compress images and um they're
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very beautiful uh in lighting situations
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great for for romances and things like
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that uh they soften um they they soften
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things um and uh very narrow depth of
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field they accomplish a lot they creat
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intimacy sometimes you know and I found
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that that idea of being able to go from
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wasn't jarring wasn't jarring at all if
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it if it worked
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aesthetically um which you could sort of
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see in the set looking through
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viewfinders and things like that you
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could determine it then it would work
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and um so that was the first movie where
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I became um you know a little Freer
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about that I've now come to really look
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for opportunities where I can shoot a
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scene with wides long lenses and crash
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in handheld all on the same scene did a
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lot of that in Frost Nixon uh did uh
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quite a bit of that in Rush um and uh
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and I find it there's something about it
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that's um a little energizing because
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you the wide lenses give you an
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interesting graphic sense so it's not
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just that you see a lot you see it in a
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particular way that is kind of um
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intriguing uh often if the composition
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is strong uh and then crash in with a
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handheld and suddenly it's it's almost
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like you as an audience member you know
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have Sly thrown yourself into the scene
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and you're into the into the world of
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those characters um and um you know you
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begin to learn the the grammar of
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Photography and what it can mean and
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what it says and it becomes almost
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second nature cinematographers have
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taught me
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that I've done a number of projects with
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Salvador doino he's um he's so um
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diverse not only do I like him very much
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uh as a friend not only is he an
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incredibly hard worker but he also has
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tremendous range and great taste um and
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uh um with with
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S I began to appreciate the power of of
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uh of strong blacks
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know so it's it's not so much about
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lighting whole Figures it's about
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a naturalistic way but rooms and spaces
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not feeling like they're broadly lit um
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and it it gives um a kind of an intimacy
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and a focus on the characters and uh s
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is very
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connected to what the characters are
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doing so even though Salvatore is a
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great visualist he is is is never trying
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to create a showy image or a cool image
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he what he really wants to do is
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understand you know what what the
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scene's about what the character is
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going through with Sal Totino I began to
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understand more about mixing the medium
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more about uh working with various
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lenses um not just lens sizes but um you
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know from different generations and uh
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uh very interesting on a subtle level to
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to understand um the the the the the way
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different different lenses can sort of
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communicate to you and it's subliminal
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but as an audience member because we're
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all sort of trained to watch
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um a screen even if it's your iPhone
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it's you know there's a the certain um
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um certain textures just give you
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certain
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feelings another little
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trick that I've come to use and
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sometimes I just you know I use my phone
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but I I used to use my you know just a
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home movie camera video camera or Super
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Eight even is to even if you're not the
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cinematographer you're not going to
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shoot it is to while the actors are
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rehearsing is to you know begin to
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experiment with some little camera moves
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begin to just play and and it doesn't
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cost anything and it's uh you begin to
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sort of see that you know a particular
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particular feel just it just does
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something the the other thing that
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really exciting right now is what
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technology is giving us um and it's
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there's a there's a new grammar that's
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just evolving constantly and um a lot of
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it exists on YouTube and um I got to
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give credit where credits due I was
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talking to David Fincher who's somebody
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that I just know we're not we're not
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great Pals but we see each other here
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and there and I was talking to him about
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um something asking a question and he
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said uh look it up on
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YouTube and said what do you mean he
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said well just in any word any any
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subject any question you might have as
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it relates to your film just type it in
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because out there in the world there are
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there are people with really interesting
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um visual sensibilities unlike yours and
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they have they have more time they're
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hobbyists they're playing and through
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that Freedom they're they're expressing
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a lot of a lot of interesting ideas in
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really original ways
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well I didn't know much about car
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engines and I was working on uh rush and
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I I wanted the the engine to somehow be
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a kind of a character and I didn't
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really know what that meant or what it
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looked like and I typed in Formula 1
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engines and I started to see some macro
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photography of engines and Ultra slow
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motion and then I finally saw this one
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shot of a you know of a piston slamming
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down and sort of exploding and um and I
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thought oh my gosh that's fantastic
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there's a key turning point where James
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Hunt is beginning to really get his Mojo
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and he's literally I always kind of
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think well now he's kind of on fire he's
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hitting on all cylinders look at all of
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these cliches that are all exist in this
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image that I just saw on YouTube so I
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borrowed David Fincher's advice I'm
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passing it along to anybody uh who's
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interested it is another great research
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Tool uh and and it is a
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reminder that there there is a new kind
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of a grammar it doesn't mean that the
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old classic ideas don't have tremendous
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power but smaller cameras less planned
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looking more spontaneous kind of uh
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imagery uh sort of cutting patterns
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these things are all there to be seen
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and and understood and you know
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evaluated as it relates to a project
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that you planning to make in a very
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organized planned
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way I've worked twice with Anthony DOD
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manle rush and in the heart of the sea
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two very very different kinds of movies
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but there is something
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so
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spontaneous and and um and and um and
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and kind of
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chaotic uh he he did Slum Dog
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Millionaire and 28 Days Later among
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other great movies and uh uh and he's
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he's he comes out of documentaries uh
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and he's he's really the first
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cinematographer I worked with who was
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first and foremost initially a
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documentary director and and
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cinematographer and very exciting uh to
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work with Anthony I remember having a
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great conversation with Anthony who I
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didn't know well but I was I was um
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interested in him shooting rush and I'd
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been following his career for a while
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and he talked
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about he talked about the difference
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between lighting conditions in the
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Formula 1 circuit that there's
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everything from the the hot sun of South
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Africa to you know the fog and the
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dampness of of racing in you know in
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London uh or or northern Europe he
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talked a lot about the cars and the
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sexuality of that time and um and and um
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the sort of the body language of those
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Racers and um and and the sort of sexual
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energy of Formula 1 and I was thinking
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along those lines but I didn't know how
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to articulate it
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and so that became very exciting to me
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and then I said I know you've done a lot
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documentaries um I uh I keep
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feeling when I look at footage from the
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era that I'd like this to not
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necessarily be like a documentary about
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Formula 1 racing but more like a a music
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documentary more like Gimme Shelter so
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you know like a great music documentary
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from the 60s uh yes sexy but um but you
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know a little bit uh unplanned
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spontaneous uh and he got very very
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excited about that and it it's the first
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movie that I've really approached in in
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that way uh and we had to work very very
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quickly and that that sort of um uh
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style of of working is actually very
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efficient uh and it really exploits the
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moment Anthony DOD manle coming out of
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documentaries and lowbudget film making
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he's brilliant at looking at the sky
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looking at the set looking at the actors
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understanding what it is you as the
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Director is trying to accomplish and
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saying simply if you could move them
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over here you know I can shoot this in
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five minutes from now we don't have to
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light at all and it's going to be
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beautiful but you have to you have to
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recalibrate your thinking a little bit
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can you make it work over here cuz then
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you if we do it'll be great
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and I I really learned to sort of go
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with that because it was it allowed us
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to work at a faster pace and still get a
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great look and I I realized that
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European DPS in
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particular you know they they never
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really have the the money or the tools
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to try to control the light they have to
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work with it and there's something very
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interesting and fluid and creative about
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that and I found it uh very stimulating
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and I hope that's something that I
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continue to carry with me throughout my
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