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I've never been a director who wants to
put a personal stamp on a project based
on uh a look or an aesthetic uh I've
always thought of myself um you know
more like a um I guess the way an actor
understands a character tries to inhabit
that character I want to understand the
character of a movie and uh and sort of
inhabit it as a director and try to
fulfill the possibilities that I think
are most appropriate now of
course my personality my taste you know
it's going to influence movies in
similar ways and uh and you know I I I I
try not to work in opposition of that
but I like to try to to understand a
movie and let it begin to talk to me I
like to I like to begin to understand
what's visually
possible um and what would what would
what would most um reflect I suppose the
themes the story it it always keeps
coming back to me to supporting those
those ideas what's it about what's it
trying to convey and you know and how is
it supposed to to transport the audience
audience how is it supposed to feel and
then begin to understand what sort of
visual style will enhance that how will
it help us understand the characters how
will it how will it help engage uh the
audience um there's a kind of an ironic
thing that happens that uh you know
suddenly um you you you know you're
going to you're going to hear a lot more
um you know about that subject so uh now
I'm thinking about becoming a doctor and
suddenly there's a great docu mentary
about you know what it means to be a you
know an ER doctor and oh look at this I
I I'm I'm really noticing that those
people over at Starbucks you know
they've got the their their nurses and I
think I see a doctor over there and
they're talking maybe I'll go up and
discuss you know just talk to them about
what med school they went to it's all
boy this is amazing suddenly you know
the the whole everywhere I look it's all
about medicine and doctors well it's
just that your antenna is tuned you know
and my my my sense of this is that it's
always that that information has always
been there but now you've focused your
train of thought I think as a
director you have the opportunity to do
the same thing to begin to focus on your
subject and you'll be amazed how many
ideas can start flooding your way and a
lot of that comes to you as visual uh
language and it's it's great to start
taking notes you see a photograph pull
it out well don't if if you can if you
already own the magazine pull it out uh
uh and collect it give yourself
something to talk about to think about
to dream about and just begin the
process of understanding what that movie
could be at least that's how I like to
work um and uh you know I I I never have
any interest in having uh you know a
particular kind of shot that I always do
to start the movie or end the movie or
you know it's no signature no signatures
like that for for me it's about you know
a story finding its proper voice it's
it's you know the it's its existence
within the you know the medium of
Cinema a lot of what we perceive in life
has to do with light um
bright uh
shafts um Stark
backlight um so that things are a little
bit muddled uh distance um is is is is
is often about a a you know the way the
Optics work is H you you start to lose
detail and you know you're not the the
the light isn't registering with you on
a distant um figure the way it does a uh
you know a figure that's nearer to you
and U so I've really come to to
understand the power of lighting I think
I grew a lot working with Roger deacons
uh on beautiful mind he's a brilliant
lighting uh DP he he doesn't even think
he is or know he is and he suffers over
it he's a very meticulous man um and his
lighting isn't
stylish but but it's so
psychological and so much about evoking
a feeling and um he he really
understands how to make light um a
character in a scene in a way that I I
didn't really prior uh to to working
with him and I really enjoyed that
collaboration a lot of the
um the warmth of the opening that's kind
of enveloping and welcoming and it's
subtly unreal it's a little too good to
be true and it's the beginning of John
Nash's Journey when we don't know that
he's mentally ill we don't know that
he's already delusional uh but you know
he's full of Hope and angst and drive
and ambition and U so even when it's not
his point of view we created this pallet
we kept calling it The Life Magazine
look that was kind of not only nostalgic
but it was also um it was also in a
naturalistic way very beautiful and very
um sort of inviting in a way um and that
was the world that John wanted to be a
part of he wanted to be in it and he
imagined that he could be um and that
was this you know world of Discovery and
Academia and
genius uh
later shifting to the kind of the
darkness the the the the the bright
light and the Dark Shadows of the Cold
War Noir section now that was that was
my idea I knew I wanted to to move into
something that was um a little bit
artificial and spoke to um you know a
sort of a reference of of uh what a
mystery looks like uh what a cold war
Thriller looks like but the way Roger
deacons executed it was not you know
over the top tongue and cheek it was
still
um it was subtle and and yet you know
really brought a lot of uh intensity uh
to that section and those scenes in in
in a great
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way Don
Peterman was also the first
cinematographer who taught me to
experiment with um
mixing um you know know shooting
modalities so that you'd you'd use in
the same
scene big wide lenses like a 14 see the
whole room put the camera high or low on
the ground almost like a Citizen Cane
sort of shot even though Splash was a
comedy you know make it visual um don't
don't shoot it like a straightforward
you know uh um sort of U you know
everything done with a 50 mimer lens
kind of a kind of a um you know U
storytelling and then crash in with long
lenses so there's no reason to sort of
say this is a wide lens scene and or
this is a long lens scene telephoto
lenses do another thing you know they
draw they compress images and um they're
very beautiful uh in lighting situations
great for for romances and things like
that uh they soften um they they soften
things um and uh very narrow depth of
field they accomplish a lot they creat
intimacy sometimes you know and I found
that that idea of being able to go from
Super wides into these long lenses that
wasn't jarring wasn't jarring at all if
it if it worked
aesthetically um which you could sort of
see in the set looking through
viewfinders and things like that you
could determine it then it would work
and um so that was the first movie where
I became um you know a little Freer
about that I've now come to really look
for opportunities where I can shoot a
scene with wides long lenses and crash
in handheld all on the same scene did a
lot of that in Frost Nixon uh did uh
quite a bit of that in Rush um and uh
and I find it there's something about it
that's um a little energizing because
you the wide lenses give you an
interesting graphic sense so it's not
just that you see a lot you see it in a
particular way that is kind of um
intriguing uh often if the composition
is strong uh and then crash in with a
handheld and suddenly it's it's almost
like you as an audience member you know
have Sly thrown yourself into the scene
and you're into the into the world of
those characters um and um you know you
begin to learn the the grammar of
Photography and what it can mean and
what it says and it becomes almost
second nature cinematographers have
taught me
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that I've done a number of projects with
Salvador doino he's um he's so um
diverse not only do I like him very much
uh as a friend not only is he an
incredibly hard worker but he also has
tremendous range and great taste um and
uh um with with
with
S I began to appreciate the power of of
uh of strong blacks
Darkness with more focused light you
know so it's it's not so much about
lighting whole Figures it's about
lighting the face in a particular way in
a naturalistic way but rooms and spaces
not feeling like they're broadly lit um
and it it gives um a kind of an intimacy
and a focus on the characters and uh s
is very
Soulful um very emotional and very
connected to what the characters are
doing so even though Salvatore is a
great visualist he is is is never trying
to create a showy image or a cool image
he what he really wants to do is
understand you know what what the
scene's about what the character is
going through with Sal Totino I began to
understand more about mixing the medium
more about uh working with various
lenses um not just lens sizes but um you
know from different generations and uh
uh very interesting on a subtle level to
to understand um the the the the the way
different different lenses can sort of
communicate to you and it's subliminal
but as an audience member because we're
all sort of trained to watch
um a screen even if it's your iPhone
it's you know there's a the certain um
um certain textures just give you
certain
feelings another little
trick that I've come to use and
sometimes I just you know I use my phone
but I I used to use my you know just a
home movie camera video camera or Super
Eight even is to even if you're not the
cinematographer you're not going to
shoot it is to while the actors are
rehearsing is to you know begin to
experiment with some little camera moves
begin to just play and and it doesn't
cost anything and it's uh you begin to
sort of see that you know a particular
particular feel just it just does
something the the other thing that
really exciting right now is what
technology is giving us um and it's
there's a there's a new grammar that's
just evolving constantly and um a lot of
it exists on YouTube and um I got to
give credit where credits due I was
talking to David Fincher who's somebody
that I just know we're not we're not
great Pals but we see each other here
and there and I was talking to him about
uh
um something asking a question and he
said uh look it up on
YouTube and said what do you mean he
said well just in any word any any
subject any question you might have as
it relates to your film just type it in
because out there in the world there are
there are people with really interesting
um visual sensibilities unlike yours and
they have they have more time they're
hobbyists they're playing and through
that Freedom they're they're expressing
a lot of a lot of interesting ideas in
really original ways
well I didn't know much about car
engines and I was working on uh rush and
I I wanted the the engine to somehow be
a kind of a character and I didn't
really know what that meant or what it
looked like and I typed in Formula 1
engines and I started to see some macro
photography of engines and Ultra slow
motion and then I finally saw this one
shot of a you know of a piston slamming
down and sort of exploding and um and I
thought oh my gosh that's fantastic
there's a key turning point where James
Hunt is beginning to really get his Mojo
and he's literally I always kind of
think well now he's kind of on fire he's
hitting on all cylinders look at all of
these cliches that are all exist in this
image that I just saw on YouTube so I
borrowed David Fincher's advice I'm
passing it along to anybody uh who's
interested it is another great research
Tool uh and and it is a
reminder that there there is a new kind
of a grammar it doesn't mean that the
old classic ideas don't have tremendous
power but smaller cameras less planned
looking more spontaneous kind of uh
imagery uh sort of cutting patterns
these things are all there to be seen
and and understood and you know
evaluated as it relates to a project
that you planning to make in a very
organized planned
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way I've worked twice with Anthony DOD
manle rush and in the heart of the sea
two very very different kinds of movies
but there is something
so
spontaneous and and um and and um and
and kind of
chaotic uh he he did Slum Dog
Millionaire and 28 Days Later among
other great movies and uh uh and he's
he's he comes out of documentaries uh
and he's he's really the first
cinematographer I worked with who was
first and foremost initially a
documentary director and and
cinematographer and very exciting uh to
work with Anthony I remember having a
great conversation with Anthony who I
didn't know well but I was I was um
interested in him shooting rush and I'd
been following his career for a while
and he talked
about he talked about the difference
between lighting conditions in the
Formula 1 circuit that there's
everything from the the hot sun of South
Africa to you know the fog and the
dampness of of racing in you know in
London uh or or northern Europe he
talked a lot about the cars and the
sexuality of that time and um and and um
the sort of the body language of those
Racers and um and and the sort of sexual
energy of Formula 1 and I was thinking
along those lines but I didn't know how
to articulate it
and so that became very exciting to me
and then I said I know you've done a lot
of
documentaries um I uh I keep
feeling when I look at footage from the
era that I'd like this to not
necessarily be like a documentary about
Formula 1 racing but more like a a music
documentary more like Gimme Shelter so
you know like a great music documentary
from the 60s uh yes sexy but um but you
know a little bit uh unplanned
spontaneous uh and he got very very
excited about that and it it's the first
movie that I've really approached in in
that way uh and we had to work very very
quickly and that that sort of um uh
style of of working is actually very
efficient uh and it really exploits the
moment Anthony DOD manle coming out of
documentaries and lowbudget film making
he's brilliant at looking at the sky
looking at the set looking at the actors
understanding what it is you as the
Director is trying to accomplish and
saying simply if you could move them
over here you know I can shoot this in
five minutes from now we don't have to
light at all and it's going to be
beautiful but you have to you have to
recalibrate your thinking a little bit
can you make it work over here cuz then
you if we do it'll be great
and I I really learned to sort of go
with that because it was it allowed us
to work at a faster pace and still get a
great look and I I realized that
European DPS in
particular you know they they never
really have the the money or the tools
to try to control the light they have to
work with it and there's something very
interesting and fluid and creative about
that and I found it uh very stimulating
and I hope that's something that I
continue to carry with me throughout my
career
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