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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,009 --> 00:00:06,339 [Music] 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,920 I've never been a director who wants to 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,920 put a personal stamp on a project based 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,160 on uh a look or an aesthetic uh I've 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,560 always thought of myself um you know 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,519 more like a um I guess the way an actor 7 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:29,519 understands a character tries to inhabit 8 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:31,439 that character I want to understand the 9 00:00:31,439 --> 00:00:34,520 character of a movie and uh and sort of 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,160 inhabit it as a director and try to 11 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:40,160 fulfill the possibilities that I think 12 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:43,320 are most appropriate now of 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,039 course my personality my taste you know 14 00:00:47,039 --> 00:00:48,960 it's going to influence movies in 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,600 similar ways and uh and you know I I I I 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,879 try not to work in opposition of that 17 00:00:55,879 --> 00:00:59,079 but I like to try to to understand a 18 00:00:59,079 --> 00:01:02,120 movie and let it begin to talk to me I 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,560 like to I like to begin to understand 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,840 what's visually 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,720 possible um and what would what would 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,960 what would most um reflect I suppose the 23 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:18,560 themes the story it it always keeps 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,560 coming back to me to supporting those 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,960 those ideas what's it about what's it 26 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:27,920 trying to convey and you know and how is 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,920 it supposed to to transport the audience 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,079 audience how is it supposed to feel and 29 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:35,079 then begin to understand what sort of 30 00:01:35,079 --> 00:01:38,040 visual style will enhance that how will 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,079 it help us understand the characters how 32 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:43,640 will it how will it help engage uh the 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,920 audience um there's a kind of an ironic 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,360 thing that happens that uh you know 35 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,920 suddenly um you you you know you're 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,520 going to you're going to hear a lot more 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,520 um you know about that subject so uh now 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,479 I'm thinking about becoming a doctor and 39 00:01:58,479 --> 00:02:00,759 suddenly there's a great docu mentary 40 00:02:00,759 --> 00:02:03,560 about you know what it means to be a you 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,119 know an ER doctor and oh look at this I 42 00:02:07,119 --> 00:02:08,840 I I'm I'm really noticing that those 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,720 people over at Starbucks you know 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,520 they've got the their their nurses and I 45 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:13,760 think I see a doctor over there and 46 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,000 they're talking maybe I'll go up and 47 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,480 discuss you know just talk to them about 48 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,840 what med school they went to it's all 49 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,200 boy this is amazing suddenly you know 50 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,160 the the whole everywhere I look it's all 51 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,640 about medicine and doctors well it's 52 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:30,519 just that your antenna is tuned you know 53 00:02:30,519 --> 00:02:32,319 and my my my sense of this is that it's 54 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:34,239 always that that information has always 55 00:02:34,239 --> 00:02:37,400 been there but now you've focused your 56 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,640 train of thought I think as a 57 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:42,040 director you have the opportunity to do 58 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,239 the same thing to begin to focus on your 59 00:02:45,239 --> 00:02:49,319 subject and you'll be amazed how many 60 00:02:49,319 --> 00:02:53,239 ideas can start flooding your way and a 61 00:02:53,239 --> 00:02:56,560 lot of that comes to you as visual uh 62 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,120 language and it's it's great to start 63 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,920 taking notes you see a photograph pull 64 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:05,239 it out well don't if if you can if you 65 00:03:05,239 --> 00:03:08,640 already own the magazine pull it out uh 66 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:11,080 uh and collect it give yourself 67 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,599 something to talk about to think about 68 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:14,879 to dream about and just begin the 69 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:17,799 process of understanding what that movie 70 00:03:17,799 --> 00:03:19,360 could be at least that's how I like to 71 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,640 work um and uh you know I I I never have 72 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:26,000 any interest in having uh you know a 73 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,159 particular kind of shot that I always do 74 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:30,239 to start the movie or end the movie or 75 00:03:30,239 --> 00:03:32,879 you know it's no signature no signatures 76 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:37,439 like that for for me it's about you know 77 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:40,560 a story finding its proper voice it's 78 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,560 it's you know the it's its existence 79 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,480 within the you know the medium of 80 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:57,360 Cinema a lot of what we perceive in life 81 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,480 has to do with light um 82 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,439 bright uh 83 00:04:02,439 --> 00:04:06,319 shafts um Stark 84 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:08,680 backlight um so that things are a little 85 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,680 bit muddled uh distance um is is is is 86 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,639 is often about a a you know the way the 87 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:19,320 Optics work is H you you start to lose 88 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,360 detail and you know you're not the the 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,199 the light isn't registering with you on 90 00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:29,440 a distant um figure the way it does a uh 91 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,400 you know a figure that's nearer to you 92 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,720 and U so I've really come to to 93 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,639 understand the power of lighting I think 94 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:43,479 I grew a lot working with Roger deacons 95 00:04:43,479 --> 00:04:46,960 uh on beautiful mind he's a brilliant 96 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,639 lighting uh DP he he doesn't even think 97 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:52,479 he is or know he is and he suffers over 98 00:04:52,479 --> 00:04:56,280 it he's a very meticulous man um and his 99 00:04:56,280 --> 00:04:58,479 lighting isn't 100 00:04:58,479 --> 00:05:03,000 stylish but but it's so 101 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,880 psychological and so much about evoking 102 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,840 a feeling and um he he really 103 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:13,199 understands how to make light um a 104 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:15,919 character in a scene in a way that I I 105 00:05:15,919 --> 00:05:19,360 didn't really prior uh to to working 106 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,680 with him and I really enjoyed that 107 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,120 collaboration a lot of the 108 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,639 um the warmth of the opening that's kind 109 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:32,240 of enveloping and welcoming and it's 110 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,560 subtly unreal it's a little too good to 111 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,039 be true and it's the beginning of John 112 00:05:38,039 --> 00:05:41,160 Nash's Journey when we don't know that 113 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,479 he's mentally ill we don't know that 114 00:05:42,479 --> 00:05:45,440 he's already delusional uh but you know 115 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,720 he's full of Hope and angst and drive 116 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,039 and ambition and U so even when it's not 117 00:05:52,039 --> 00:05:54,800 his point of view we created this pallet 118 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,360 we kept calling it The Life Magazine 119 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,400 look that was kind of not only nostalgic 120 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,199 but it was also um it was also in a 121 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:06,840 naturalistic way very beautiful and very 122 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:10,319 um sort of inviting in a way um and that 123 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:11,840 was the world that John wanted to be a 124 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:13,800 part of he wanted to be in it and he 125 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,560 imagined that he could be um and that 126 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,880 was this you know world of Discovery and 127 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,039 Academia and 128 00:06:21,039 --> 00:06:23,240 genius uh 129 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,160 later shifting to the kind of the 130 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,160 darkness the the the the the bright 131 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,080 light and the Dark Shadows of the Cold 132 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,599 War Noir section now that was that was 133 00:06:36,599 --> 00:06:39,840 my idea I knew I wanted to to move into 134 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:41,639 something that was um a little bit 135 00:06:41,639 --> 00:06:45,599 artificial and spoke to um you know a 136 00:06:45,599 --> 00:06:48,319 sort of a reference of of uh what a 137 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:50,759 mystery looks like uh what a cold war 138 00:06:50,759 --> 00:06:53,280 Thriller looks like but the way Roger 139 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,879 deacons executed it was not you know 140 00:06:56,879 --> 00:06:59,000 over the top tongue and cheek it was 141 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,319 still 142 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:04,840 um it was subtle and and yet you know 143 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:08,000 really brought a lot of uh intensity uh 144 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,520 to that section and those scenes in in 145 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,930 in a great 146 00:07:12,930 --> 00:07:16,069 [Music] 147 00:07:16,599 --> 00:07:18,560 way Don 148 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,199 Peterman was also the first 149 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:24,280 cinematographer who taught me to 150 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,199 experiment with um 151 00:07:27,199 --> 00:07:30,080 mixing um you know know shooting 152 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,400 modalities so that you'd you'd use in 153 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,160 the same 154 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:40,240 scene big wide lenses like a 14 see the 155 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,520 whole room put the camera high or low on 156 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,680 the ground almost like a Citizen Cane 157 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,800 sort of shot even though Splash was a 158 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,240 comedy you know make it visual um don't 159 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,360 don't shoot it like a straightforward 160 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,440 you know uh um sort of U you know 161 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,759 everything done with a 50 mimer lens 162 00:07:57,759 --> 00:08:00,159 kind of a kind of a um you know U 163 00:08:00,159 --> 00:08:02,479 storytelling and then crash in with long 164 00:08:02,479 --> 00:08:04,639 lenses so there's no reason to sort of 165 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:07,520 say this is a wide lens scene and or 166 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,840 this is a long lens scene telephoto 167 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,440 lenses do another thing you know they 168 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,639 draw they compress images and um they're 169 00:08:15,639 --> 00:08:18,599 very beautiful uh in lighting situations 170 00:08:18,599 --> 00:08:21,039 great for for romances and things like 171 00:08:21,039 --> 00:08:24,319 that uh they soften um they they soften 172 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:27,479 things um and uh very narrow depth of 173 00:08:27,479 --> 00:08:29,680 field they accomplish a lot they creat 174 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,279 intimacy sometimes you know and I found 175 00:08:32,279 --> 00:08:34,959 that that idea of being able to go from 176 00:08:34,959 --> 00:08:38,399 Super wides into these long lenses that 177 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:40,399 wasn't jarring wasn't jarring at all if 178 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:41,800 it if it worked 179 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,120 aesthetically um which you could sort of 180 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,920 see in the set looking through 181 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,920 viewfinders and things like that you 182 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,720 could determine it then it would work 183 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,160 and um so that was the first movie where 184 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,360 I became um you know a little Freer 185 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,839 about that I've now come to really look 186 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:02,800 for opportunities where I can shoot a 187 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,240 scene with wides long lenses and crash 188 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,839 in handheld all on the same scene did a 189 00:09:08,839 --> 00:09:12,279 lot of that in Frost Nixon uh did uh 190 00:09:12,279 --> 00:09:15,880 quite a bit of that in Rush um and uh 191 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,760 and I find it there's something about it 192 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,399 that's um a little energizing because 193 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:23,440 you the wide lenses give you an 194 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,640 interesting graphic sense so it's not 195 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,240 just that you see a lot you see it in a 196 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,920 particular way that is kind of um 197 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,240 intriguing uh often if the composition 198 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,200 is strong uh and then crash in with a 199 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,640 handheld and suddenly it's it's almost 200 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,839 like you as an audience member you know 201 00:09:40,839 --> 00:09:43,519 have Sly thrown yourself into the scene 202 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:45,160 and you're into the into the world of 203 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,760 those characters um and um you know you 204 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:55,800 begin to learn the the grammar of 205 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,200 Photography and what it can mean and 206 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,240 what it says and it becomes almost 207 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,800 second nature cinematographers have 208 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,820 taught me 209 00:10:03,820 --> 00:10:08,349 [Music] 210 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:11,640 that I've done a number of projects with 211 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,680 Salvador doino he's um he's so um 212 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:19,480 diverse not only do I like him very much 213 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,399 uh as a friend not only is he an 214 00:10:21,399 --> 00:10:24,120 incredibly hard worker but he also has 215 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,440 tremendous range and great taste um and 216 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,160 uh um with with 217 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,200 with 218 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,639 S I began to appreciate the power of of 219 00:10:35,639 --> 00:10:39,880 uh of strong blacks 220 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,839 Darkness with more focused light you 221 00:10:43,839 --> 00:10:45,560 know so it's it's not so much about 222 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:47,120 lighting whole Figures it's about 223 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,800 lighting the face in a particular way in 224 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,000 a naturalistic way but rooms and spaces 225 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,839 not feeling like they're broadly lit um 226 00:10:57,839 --> 00:11:01,600 and it it gives um a kind of an intimacy 227 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,519 and a focus on the characters and uh s 228 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:06,959 is very 229 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:10,120 Soulful um very emotional and very 230 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,880 connected to what the characters are 231 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,360 doing so even though Salvatore is a 232 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,240 great visualist he is is is never trying 233 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,200 to create a showy image or a cool image 234 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,480 he what he really wants to do is 235 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,880 understand you know what what the 236 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,279 scene's about what the character is 237 00:11:26,279 --> 00:11:28,800 going through with Sal Totino I began to 238 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,320 understand more about mixing the medium 239 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,760 more about uh working with various 240 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,760 lenses um not just lens sizes but um you 241 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,000 know from different generations and uh 242 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,320 uh very interesting on a subtle level to 243 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,920 to understand um the the the the the way 244 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,279 different different lenses can sort of 245 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:56,079 communicate to you and it's subliminal 246 00:11:56,079 --> 00:11:57,920 but as an audience member because we're 247 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,160 all sort of trained to watch 248 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,880 um a screen even if it's your iPhone 249 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,519 it's you know there's a the certain um 250 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:09,320 um certain textures just give you 251 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,600 certain 252 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,680 feelings another little 253 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:20,600 trick that I've come to use and 254 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,680 sometimes I just you know I use my phone 255 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:27,279 but I I used to use my you know just a 256 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:30,040 home movie camera video camera or Super 257 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,639 Eight even is to even if you're not the 258 00:12:33,639 --> 00:12:35,000 cinematographer you're not going to 259 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,839 shoot it is to while the actors are 260 00:12:38,839 --> 00:12:41,360 rehearsing is to you know begin to 261 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,519 experiment with some little camera moves 262 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:46,440 begin to just play and and it doesn't 263 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,480 cost anything and it's uh you begin to 264 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,040 sort of see that you know a particular 265 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,440 particular feel just it just does 266 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,839 something the the other thing that 267 00:12:59,839 --> 00:13:03,120 really exciting right now is what 268 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,760 technology is giving us um and it's 269 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,839 there's a there's a new grammar that's 270 00:13:09,839 --> 00:13:14,040 just evolving constantly and um a lot of 271 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,480 it exists on YouTube and um I got to 272 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,480 give credit where credits due I was 273 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,760 talking to David Fincher who's somebody 274 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,160 that I just know we're not we're not 275 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,120 great Pals but we see each other here 276 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,920 and there and I was talking to him about 277 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:29,800 uh 278 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,079 um something asking a question and he 279 00:13:32,079 --> 00:13:34,760 said uh look it up on 280 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,959 YouTube and said what do you mean he 281 00:13:36,959 --> 00:13:41,480 said well just in any word any any 282 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,199 subject any question you might have as 283 00:13:43,199 --> 00:13:45,560 it relates to your film just type it in 284 00:13:45,560 --> 00:13:48,480 because out there in the world there are 285 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,079 there are people with really interesting 286 00:13:51,079 --> 00:13:54,639 um visual sensibilities unlike yours and 287 00:13:54,639 --> 00:13:56,160 they have they have more time they're 288 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,759 hobbyists they're playing and through 289 00:13:58,759 --> 00:14:01,600 that Freedom they're they're expressing 290 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,759 a lot of a lot of interesting ideas in 291 00:14:04,759 --> 00:14:08,720 really original ways 292 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,920 well I didn't know much about car 293 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,120 engines and I was working on uh rush and 294 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,600 I I wanted the the engine to somehow be 295 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,079 a kind of a character and I didn't 296 00:14:19,079 --> 00:14:20,600 really know what that meant or what it 297 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,880 looked like and I typed in Formula 1 298 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,320 engines and I started to see some macro 299 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,839 photography of engines and Ultra slow 300 00:14:29,839 --> 00:14:31,720 motion and then I finally saw this one 301 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,759 shot of a you know of a piston slamming 302 00:14:34,759 --> 00:14:38,920 down and sort of exploding and um and I 303 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,199 thought oh my gosh that's fantastic 304 00:14:42,199 --> 00:14:44,560 there's a key turning point where James 305 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,279 Hunt is beginning to really get his Mojo 306 00:14:47,279 --> 00:14:48,560 and he's literally I always kind of 307 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,079 think well now he's kind of on fire he's 308 00:14:51,079 --> 00:14:53,279 hitting on all cylinders look at all of 309 00:14:53,279 --> 00:14:56,880 these cliches that are all exist in this 310 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,880 image that I just saw on YouTube so I 311 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,680 borrowed David Fincher's advice I'm 312 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,040 passing it along to anybody uh who's 313 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,399 interested it is another great research 314 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:11,600 Tool uh and and it is a 315 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,800 reminder that there there is a new kind 316 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,279 of a grammar it doesn't mean that the 317 00:15:18,279 --> 00:15:21,440 old classic ideas don't have tremendous 318 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,399 power but smaller cameras less planned 319 00:15:25,399 --> 00:15:27,720 looking more spontaneous kind of uh 320 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,720 imagery uh sort of cutting patterns 321 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,319 these things are all there to be seen 322 00:15:33,319 --> 00:15:35,600 and and understood and you know 323 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,240 evaluated as it relates to a project 324 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,240 that you planning to make in a very 325 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,519 organized planned 326 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,080 [Music] 327 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,680 way I've worked twice with Anthony DOD 328 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,680 manle rush and in the heart of the sea 329 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,319 two very very different kinds of movies 330 00:15:56,319 --> 00:16:00,480 but there is something 331 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,000 so 332 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,560 spontaneous and and um and and um and 333 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,399 and kind of 334 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:10,720 chaotic uh he he did Slum Dog 335 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,639 Millionaire and 28 Days Later among 336 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:16,600 other great movies and uh uh and he's 337 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,319 he's he comes out of documentaries uh 338 00:16:19,319 --> 00:16:20,480 and he's he's really the first 339 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,880 cinematographer I worked with who was 340 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,040 first and foremost initially a 341 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,000 documentary director and and 342 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,440 cinematographer and very exciting uh to 343 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,440 work with Anthony I remember having a 344 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,040 great conversation with Anthony who I 345 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,440 didn't know well but I was I was um 346 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,120 interested in him shooting rush and I'd 347 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,079 been following his career for a while 348 00:16:41,079 --> 00:16:43,920 and he talked 349 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,519 about he talked about the difference 350 00:16:46,519 --> 00:16:50,000 between lighting conditions in the 351 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,319 Formula 1 circuit that there's 352 00:16:52,319 --> 00:16:54,480 everything from the the hot sun of South 353 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:59,160 Africa to you know the fog and the 354 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,560 dampness of of racing in you know in 355 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,559 London uh or or northern Europe he 356 00:17:05,559 --> 00:17:09,000 talked a lot about the cars and the 357 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,959 sexuality of that time and um and and um 358 00:17:13,959 --> 00:17:17,079 the sort of the body language of those 359 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:20,480 Racers and um and and the sort of sexual 360 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,919 energy of Formula 1 and I was thinking 361 00:17:24,919 --> 00:17:27,959 along those lines but I didn't know how 362 00:17:27,959 --> 00:17:29,360 to articulate it 363 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:31,799 and so that became very exciting to me 364 00:17:31,799 --> 00:17:34,760 and then I said I know you've done a lot 365 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:35,600 of 366 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:40,160 documentaries um I uh I keep 367 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,200 feeling when I look at footage from the 368 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,480 era that I'd like this to not 369 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,480 necessarily be like a documentary about 370 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,039 Formula 1 racing but more like a a music 371 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:53,840 documentary more like Gimme Shelter so 372 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,919 you know like a great music documentary 373 00:17:55,919 --> 00:18:00,400 from the 60s uh yes sexy but um but you 374 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,159 know a little bit uh unplanned 375 00:18:03,159 --> 00:18:05,799 spontaneous uh and he got very very 376 00:18:05,799 --> 00:18:08,520 excited about that and it it's the first 377 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,559 movie that I've really approached in in 378 00:18:11,559 --> 00:18:14,960 that way uh and we had to work very very 379 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,400 quickly and that that sort of um uh 380 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,000 style of of working is actually very 381 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,720 efficient uh and it really exploits the 382 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,840 moment Anthony DOD manle coming out of 383 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,919 documentaries and lowbudget film making 384 00:18:30,919 --> 00:18:34,640 he's brilliant at looking at the sky 385 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,440 looking at the set looking at the actors 386 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,360 understanding what it is you as the 387 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:42,840 Director is trying to accomplish and 388 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,360 saying simply if you could move them 389 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:48,159 over here you know I can shoot this in 390 00:18:48,159 --> 00:18:50,120 five minutes from now we don't have to 391 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:51,679 light at all and it's going to be 392 00:18:51,679 --> 00:18:54,240 beautiful but you have to you have to 393 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,720 recalibrate your thinking a little bit 394 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,679 can you make it work over here cuz then 395 00:18:57,679 --> 00:18:59,240 you if we do it'll be great 396 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,960 and I I really learned to sort of go 397 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,400 with that because it was it allowed us 398 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,480 to work at a faster pace and still get a 399 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,760 great look and I I realized that 400 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,679 European DPS in 401 00:19:12,679 --> 00:19:14,600 particular you know they they never 402 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,960 really have the the money or the tools 403 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,960 to try to control the light they have to 404 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,559 work with it and there's something very 405 00:19:23,559 --> 00:19:27,080 interesting and fluid and creative about 406 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,679 that and I found it uh very stimulating 407 00:19:29,679 --> 00:19:30,880 and I hope that's something that I 408 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,880 continue to carry with me throughout my 409 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,880 career30453

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