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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,480 How do you write music? You know, you 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,320 can write music by sitting in front of a 3 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,119 piano and your fingers will run across 4 00:00:19,119 --> 00:00:21,039 the keys. 5 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:23,199 And usually what happens is they fall 6 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:25,279 into certain patterns of ma muscle 7 00:00:25,279 --> 00:00:28,640 memory. So the way I write is I turn up 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,679 in my room in the morning and if I don't 9 00:00:31,679 --> 00:00:34,160 know what the tune is. I do it like 10 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:37,440 this. I sit on my hands until I have an 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,360 idea and I don't let them straight to 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,879 the keyboard because I know what's going 13 00:00:40,879 --> 00:00:42,719 to happen. It's just going to be muscle 14 00:00:42,719 --> 00:00:44,879 memory. It's just going to be the thing 15 00:00:44,879 --> 00:00:48,879 I did last week or whatever. So the most 16 00:00:48,879 --> 00:00:51,360 impossible part is not to touch the 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,520 keyboard because it's so tempting to go 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,120 and touch the keyboard and play a load 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,559 of crap. 20 00:00:56,559 --> 00:00:59,440 Um and you know very often you can play 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,280 a load of crap and people are really 22 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,239 happy with it but at the end of the day 23 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:07,680 um it it there has to be a sense of 24 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,680 adventure in it for me otherwise you 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,000 know it gets boring so there has to be a 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,840 sense of the new and we've never tried 27 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,560 this before and if it means uh setting a 28 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,600 piano on fire or you know uh going to 29 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,200 Africa and uh going into you know a 30 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,960 township and working with an African 31 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:27,520 choir that, you know, none of us speak 32 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,920 the same language or um going to 33 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,320 Slovakia and 34 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:34,960 meeting some extraordinary musicians, so 35 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:38,200 be it. 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,240 I think writer's block 37 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,640 comes from from sort of many different 38 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,880 places, but I think one of them is you 39 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,640 don't know what you're doing yet. you 40 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,479 don't know what the story is you want to 41 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:54,320 tell or you feel you haven't done your 42 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,560 research yet. I mean, that's one form of 43 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,000 writer block. The other one is just 44 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,360 you've been working too much and you're 45 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,880 burned out. You're not enjoying it 46 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,320 anymore. But quite honestly, I I never 47 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,479 have that because 48 00:02:06,479 --> 00:02:08,560 I love what I do and I get excited by 49 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,680 it. But I can't write until I know what 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,120 what I'm writing about. And that isn't 51 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,120 that's a little harder to explain 52 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,160 because weirdly it's not in the script 53 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,360 and it's not on the screen. It's some 54 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,680 weird strange 55 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,640 version which is my version of the film. 56 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:32,640 My little bit on the you know left hand 57 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:34,640 side of the corner of the screen. 58 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:36,160 There's something going on that nobody 59 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,400 pays attention to and it becomes really 60 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,959 important to me and that's the story I 61 00:02:40,959 --> 00:02:42,879 want to tell or that's the part I can 62 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:44,959 contribute. So once I know what I can 63 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:47,760 contribute, I know what to write about. 64 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,080 And up until that moment, I just sit 65 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,640 there 66 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:54,160 in, 67 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,080 you know, total panic like a deer in 68 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,480 front of the headlights 69 00:03:03,599 --> 00:03:05,920 budgets. Cuz this is what people always 70 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:08,159 want to know about. They always think 71 00:03:08,159 --> 00:03:10,959 the the they always think that we're 72 00:03:10,959 --> 00:03:13,599 either completely rolling in it and it's 73 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:17,200 just like gazillion dollars 74 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,159 or what every film composer tells you, 75 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:22,800 there isn't enough money. And of course, 76 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,360 none of it is true. At the end of the 77 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,440 day, 78 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,519 I've done some of the most fun things on 79 00:03:31,519 --> 00:03:34,959 movies where I had no budget and 80 00:03:34,959 --> 00:03:37,360 you know did the most sort of boring 81 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,760 things where I had sort of a bit too 82 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,799 much money. Um so budget but you know 83 00:03:42,799 --> 00:03:44,640 the budget shouldn't affect the creative 84 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,000 process. The creative process takes uh 85 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,760 you know takes place in your head and 86 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,560 every day it becomes easier to figure 87 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,000 out a way of creating things. Um as long 88 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,720 as as long as you have ideas are not 89 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,280 limited by budget. Yeah. Okay. If your 90 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,239 idea is that it needs the biggest 91 00:04:06,239 --> 00:04:08,480 symphony orchestra and that's the only 92 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,319 way you can do it. It's actually not a 93 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:12,959 budget problem. It's a it's a you are 94 00:04:12,959 --> 00:04:14,959 limited by your imagination because you 95 00:04:14,959 --> 00:04:17,519 didn't figure out that you can probably 96 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:19,280 say the same thing with four great 97 00:04:19,280 --> 00:04:22,160 players or four not so great players 98 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,639 even but um so you need you need to you 99 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:28,479 know you need to have enough to make it 100 00:04:28,479 --> 00:04:30,560 sound good but there's always enough to 101 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,400 make it sound good in a funny way I mean 102 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,479 budget should not affect the creativity 103 00:04:34,479 --> 00:04:36,320 budget should not really affect the 104 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,360 outcome at the same time be bold go up 105 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,280 to them tell them you're going add 106 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:43,199 something to their movie that they won't 107 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:45,840 get otherwise. And so so don't don't be 108 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:48,479 shy about it. You know, music is 109 00:04:48,479 --> 00:04:50,720 important. Music is worth something. You 110 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,680 know, it's not it's here's the mistake 111 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,479 people make. Just because we play music 112 00:04:56,479 --> 00:04:59,120 and we like the process of playing 113 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,880 doesn't mean we're giving it away. Um 114 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,280 and you need there needs to be an 115 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:09,680 appropriate budget to do to to 116 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,840 help fulfill the vision that is not just 117 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:13,600 your vision but it's the director's 118 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,400 vision. So, you know, the two of you of 119 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,560 you are working together on something. 120 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,600 And sometimes it's important to remind a 121 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,759 director that there isn't endless time 122 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:26,639 and endless budget and endless amounts 123 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:28,639 of recording sessions with very 124 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:30,639 expensive orchestras and we might have 125 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:32,160 to resort to a rubber band and a 126 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,280 cardboard box to get this one done. But 127 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:38,639 that one works too. Um, rather than 128 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:40,960 going for the most expensive score that 129 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,199 you could possibly do, I was trying to 130 00:05:43,199 --> 00:05:47,440 figure out to show something where a a 131 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,000 big budget movie could actually benefit 132 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,680 from using really modest instrumentation 133 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,000 and just a bit of quirkiness and a bit 134 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,840 of inventiveness. 135 00:05:57,840 --> 00:05:59,440 Because 136 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,840 here's a lot of what I noticed when 137 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:03,440 people come in from music school and 138 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,680 they come and intern with us, etc. 139 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,919 Somehow they have this idea because they 140 00:06:07,919 --> 00:06:09,360 learned about the orchestra and they 141 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,160 spend a lot of time at university or 142 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,319 music school or the academy or whatever 143 00:06:14,319 --> 00:06:16,080 learning about this that their first 144 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,160 movie they're going to unleash this 145 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,960 102piece symphony orchestra when really 146 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,960 what it's going to be is you're going to 147 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,560 unleash some plugin on an iPad and 148 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,240 you're going to go and make a great 149 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,720 score out of it because that is the 150 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,039 budget they're going to give you. And 151 00:06:33,039 --> 00:06:36,000 that's all right. And and and what you 152 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,039 have to do is you just in yourself, you 153 00:06:39,039 --> 00:06:41,199 just have to imagine how you're going to 154 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:43,520 make that sound like that 102piece 155 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,000 symphony orchestra that you thought 156 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,319 music school or the academy had promised 157 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:51,319 you. 158 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Start writing. You know, look, at the 159 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,599 end of the day, a a a cheap piano sound, 160 00:07:01,599 --> 00:07:05,199 it's all there, right? 88 keys. It's all 161 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:08,080 there, you know, and and at the end of 162 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,639 the day, the job is to go and and figure 163 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:12,479 out the notes and figure out all these 164 00:07:12,479 --> 00:07:14,319 things. And then you can go and put all 165 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:16,800 those, you know, simultaneously all 166 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,759 these colors are going on. I mean, I 167 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:21,599 keep 168 00:07:21,599 --> 00:07:23,520 I keep being in two minds about this 169 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,599 conversation. I mean, I picked Sherlock 170 00:07:25,599 --> 00:07:28,479 very much sort of on purpose 171 00:07:28,479 --> 00:07:31,039 for the purposes of our conversation 172 00:07:31,039 --> 00:07:33,199 because 173 00:07:33,199 --> 00:07:36,319 it's a score anybody could do. You could 174 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:40,479 do this score one microphone, 175 00:07:40,479 --> 00:07:45,039 you know, on a laptop, you know. So, and 176 00:07:45,039 --> 00:07:47,759 I'm not saying I'm not saying that to 177 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:49,919 show off. I'm not saying it in any other 178 00:07:49,919 --> 00:07:53,919 way other than to say I don't accept the 179 00:07:53,919 --> 00:07:58,319 fact that you can't write create a great 180 00:07:58,319 --> 00:08:00,960 Hollywood blockbuster or whatever 181 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,479 whatever the score is uh depending on 182 00:08:04,479 --> 00:08:07,280 money or depending on resources etc. 183 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,680 Anybody's got access to something that 184 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,240 they can go and make a great score with. 185 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,160 Um, you know, as opposed to us sitting 186 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,680 here and me showing you the thing that 187 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,240 took a huge symphony orchestra to do, 188 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,360 you know, in in in a funny way, the the 189 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,879 more 190 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:28,560 money you have available, the less of a 191 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,319 achievement it becomes to make an 192 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:33,919 impressive sound. I think the I think 193 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:35,839 you don't need all the whisbang sounds. 194 00:08:35,839 --> 00:08:38,640 You you don't need the computer. You 195 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,320 don't need anything. You can compose in 196 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,159 your head. You can compose on the piano. 197 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:46,880 You can compose on anything. Um, 198 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,480 actually, I think it might have been on 199 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,640 Sherlock where 200 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,720 um, Anmarie Simpson was sending me 201 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,360 violin tracks that she recorded on her 202 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,800 iPhone and they sounded great. You know, 203 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,519 it's like, here's an idea. And and 204 00:09:03,519 --> 00:09:05,279 there's a quality to it and you can 205 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:07,360 either go, oh my god, that's not 206 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,200 technically correct. or you can go, 207 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,920 "Wow, that's really interesting." So, 208 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,640 just, you know, if you just o open 209 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,279 yourself up to the possibility that that 210 00:09:17,279 --> 00:09:19,120 could be really interesting and that you 211 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,760 can manipulate it, it's not a problem. 212 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,399 It's a huge advantage to to work with a 213 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:29,519 the bare minimum of available things, 214 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:32,160 you know, one, you know, this is one 215 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,000 violin, one bass, one timber, and then, 216 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,920 you know, Yes. And then I went crazy and 217 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,920 I went off to Slovakia and recorded all 218 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,200 the gypsies. But that's a different 219 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,839 thing, you know. It it's the the 220 00:09:45,839 --> 00:09:50,640 resources exist to go and 221 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,040 do great things. One of our engineers 222 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,240 who I think he worked on this, you know, 223 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,480 he certainly worked on quite a few other 224 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,040 movies. I did a chap called Steve Lipson 225 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,000 and and he was here the other day and he 226 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,680 was working with some amazing artist. I 227 00:10:05,680 --> 00:10:07,360 said, "Oh, this guy's a real genius." 228 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,760 And he said, "Yeah, yeah, yeah. I worked 229 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,920 with a lot of geniuses in my life." And 230 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,399 he truly has. He said, "They all have 231 00:10:14,399 --> 00:10:17,120 one thing in common. They roll up their 232 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,760 sleeves. They work until they drop. They 233 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,760 never go home." And then present it as, 234 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,320 you know, oh, it was easy. You know, 235 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,959 you're supposed to make it sound easy, 236 00:10:28,959 --> 00:10:31,920 you know. And Sherlock, 237 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,640 it's easy. If you if you listen to the 238 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,839 score, it's trivial, you know. It's 239 00:10:35,839 --> 00:10:37,519 trivial. It's just like, you know, it's 240 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:41,200 simple tunes and it's and and you can't 241 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,959 tell that a lot of work went into it, 242 00:10:44,959 --> 00:10:47,760 you know. And I'm not saying that in a 243 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,000 oh dear me, I didn't get any sleep. 244 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,920 Yeah. Oh dear me, I didn't get any 245 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,440 sleep. That's the truth. But I didn't 246 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,399 get any sleep because it was fun. It was 247 00:10:56,399 --> 00:10:58,959 great. It was, you know, we were we were 248 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:03,200 at it passionately and everybody is at 249 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,120 it passionately. I mean those are the 250 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,959 sort of situations you want to be 251 00:11:06,959 --> 00:11:09,440 involved in and 252 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,839 it's your job as a composer to help to 253 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:14,079 create18873

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