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Some movies are entirely characterdriven
and you know I mean if if you say
Sherlock Holmes
Yeah, you know, it's it's pretty obvious
it's it's about the character. Um, if if
you say to me pirates, actually Jack
Sparrow's theme I forgotten about Jack
Sparrow, you know, it was much more
about
it's, you know, let's let's invent a
lang, you know, let's figure out a
language of of how we can describe the
movie and,
you know, in a funny way. I mean, it's
it's like Gore gave me all the clues.
It's, you know, uh pirates were the rock
and rollers, you know, of the of the
Middle Ages or whatever, you know. So,
it's just a boogie, you know. That's all
it tastes, you know, that that tune. Um,
so so every secondary tune other than
Jack's came out of the
Well, Jack's tune starts with that as
well. Um, so, so, so I thought, you
know, if I have a family of tunes that
all start with the same three notes, you
know, um,
that is the family, you know, that, you
know, that that's the set design for
this movie in a funny sort of way. Um,
so yes, the the the the overall
sound of the movie came first. What I
try to do is I try to find the tone of
the movie. I try to find the tone for
the movie more than anything else and
you know build the set and then put the
actors into it. So yeah, I mean look I
some of the characters I I don't
remember but the process is usually the
same. It's I really try to figure out
how that character resonates with me and
then it becomes a game. It's becomes a
game of it's it's it's it's
no different than telling your best
friend about somebody you met and the
impression they left on you and you're
trying to describe a person to somebody
else who has never met that person.
I just kept watching what Johnny was
doing and I kept watching what you know
who he was. So I I just sat down and I
mean I didn't sort of quite bash it out
but it didn't take very long. There
wasn't a lot of time. Um, and I just I
just tried to put all the all the I
wasn't consciously thinking about it,
but I, you know, I knew what I wanted to
say and I just I just have tried to put
it into the notes. And then, yeah, at
one point,
you know, I mean, look, I'll play it.
I'll probably get it wrong.
And if I wasn't so lazy, I'd turn around
and play the harmony.
Oh,
remember I said I'm not a performer.
There was proof. I'm not a performer.
Um,
so I actually wrote it down at one point
and and scribbled it down for Gore so he
would understand what the thing was. So
if you should we should we go and do
this by example. So now I feel like a
teacher. So you know I I just wrote the
instruction manual out for for for
Gabinsky going okay this is what I was
thinking and this is what this does. Um
that you know it starts with an romantic
phrase. It goes to a heroic phrase and
since you're heroic
and and and I do think this character
thinks of heroic as a little go. So he
has to go just when everybody goes well
done. He has to go and
just like I would have to do perverts
the praise by going a little naughty. it
goes naughty then it does the strong and
positive then it does a little decadent
thing
and then the sort of the the the
surprise and you know and there's a bar
which is just called mess where I was
changing my mind about things um
and you know again this this idea that
at the end he gets a little bit long-
winded uh you know he gets stuck in
his words and his
and you And you know, maybe a good glass
of rum will solve it.
I think this first phrase
is actually quite romantic, right? And
then it does this um
I mean that's
it's a very heroic leap, you know,
because I think he's a closic romantic,
but
he automatically goes to the um goes to
the heroic. And the next thing is he's
naughty. And so the next three notes are
you know the semmit tone you know
it's like
bit wicked you know um
and this one this chord shouldn't be in
there I mean I haven't you know because
the harmony so far has been this the
very heroic and romantic thing and that
that that that you know So, I'm suddenly
changing language and it it's it's
strong and it's positive, you know? It's
like
first of all, I think part of what this
character is is he imagines himself to
be all of these things. So, so part of
it is like how he sees himself and part
of it is how I think he really is, you
know. So, so this is very positive thing
you know but then straight away it it
goes into um
hang on hang
that there's you know it's still the
positive thing
there is you know that's straight out of
that's straight out of a strip club you
There's a
there's a bit of sexuality that might
not be appropriate in a children's
movie, but who's going to catch me at it
in this tune?
And then the tune does something
boldly unexpected.
You know, it should just shouldn't go to
this chord.
So, you know, it's like every problem he
solves, he he he he figures out um you
know, it breaks the rules, you know,
that's that's really what that tune
does. So, so within
so far good with the romantic goes to
heroic
bit naughty
very positive
etc etc etc you know I mean it actually
goes goes on and on and on and on.
Do you know the way he gets he keeps in
the m, you know, he's trying to solve
problems and he gets stuck for a while
and it's of his thinking process. And
the only way he knows how to solve the
problem is he goes to
the rulebreaking chord.
Oh yeah, you know, hey, I'm I I did it
right.
Naughtily
just because I can, I'm going to repeat
the naughty bit because I got away with
it, you know. And and no, I'm not
interested in making a well-rounded
character because well-rounded
characters have no place in a movie.
They got there's nowhere to go, you
know. You you you want the impossible,
difficult, contr, eccentric, slightly
damaged goods. That's what makes
interesting
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