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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,260 --> 00:00:10,300 Ladies and gentlemen, you are about to behold a sight so strange, so 2 00:00:10,700 --> 00:00:14,980 so utterly monstrous, that I urge those of you who are easily frightened or 3 00:00:14,980 --> 00:00:20,820 upset, who suffer from nervous disarmament, weak hearts or queasy 4 00:00:20,820 --> 00:00:26,500 experience nightmares, and any children under the age of 16 years to forego 5 00:00:26,500 --> 00:00:27,880 witnessing this exhibit. 6 00:00:28,820 --> 00:00:31,300 This is a wonderful world of exploitation film. 7 00:00:35,310 --> 00:00:37,590 I was in the exploitation film business. 8 00:00:38,990 --> 00:00:43,350 I was there. I saw what was happening and I took advantage of it. 9 00:00:45,270 --> 00:00:49,370 Between Dan and Dave, there's a whole world and realm of different 10 00:00:49,370 --> 00:00:54,770 films. There wasn't any master plan, any scheme or anything else. I'm not that 11 00:00:54,770 --> 00:00:55,770 smart. 12 00:00:57,250 --> 00:01:00,830 I wasn't as good as Dave at it, but I was a businessman. 13 00:01:01,740 --> 00:01:05,160 I knew if you made three quarters, you could save one quarter. 14 00:01:07,020 --> 00:01:10,920 They're not the kind of films that you will see today or even fathom were being 15 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,460 made. Sometimes watching them, you have to even wonder if they were made on the 16 00:01:15,460 --> 00:01:16,460 planet Earth. 17 00:01:21,780 --> 00:01:23,260 You remember Jack Fleck? 18 00:01:23,580 --> 00:01:26,220 Oh, sure. He had the theater in Anaheim. Yeah, yeah. 19 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,640 Uh -huh. 20 00:01:28,590 --> 00:01:31,450 You remember that guy, Jim Ginopoulos? Oh, sure. 21 00:01:31,870 --> 00:01:32,870 He finally died. 22 00:01:32,910 --> 00:01:33,829 Yeah. 23 00:01:33,830 --> 00:01:35,870 He was an honorary old bastard. 24 00:01:36,330 --> 00:01:37,610 Well, Tom Dalby. 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,360 used to tell me that you and your dad would get into a town somewhere up in 26 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,840 Montana or somewhere, and he'd put up a little tent, and you all would sleep in 27 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,400 the tent that night rather than having to take a ride. Tom Dolby, he never was 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,020 on the road. No, but I said he was telling me these stories about you and 29 00:01:54,020 --> 00:01:57,760 dad. Oh, no, he never. That's a bunch of shit, too. Oh, okay. You always talk to 30 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:58,760 a bullshitter. 31 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,340 Tom Dobby was no bullshitter. He was my manager on Main Street. Oh, shit. 32 00:02:03,620 --> 00:02:07,620 You think I don't remember? Well, I know it, but you're making a liar out of a 33 00:02:07,620 --> 00:02:08,620 good guy. 34 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,640 Well, I am telling you what he told me, Dan. Oh, bullshit. I don't believe that 35 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:15,760 either. You just said I got a memory like a steel trap. You got a liar like a 36 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,540 shit trap. 37 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,340 Son of a bitch. 38 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,020 He lies like hell. 39 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,900 My father and mother came from Italy about... 40 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,600 When they were about 19, they were married real young. 41 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,640 And my dad started working in the coal mine in a little town named Tono, 42 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:42,080 Washington. My dad was strong enough to load up twice as much coal as any other 43 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,980 man. He loaded up 33 tons of coal in one eight -hour day. 44 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:50,940 I have a certificate from his boss that says that. 45 00:02:51,540 --> 00:02:55,700 And so it got around that my dad was a super strong man. 46 00:02:56,250 --> 00:03:00,290 They heard about my dad, so they wanted to make a policeman out of him. He 47 00:03:00,290 --> 00:03:02,570 cleaned up that town real fast. 48 00:03:03,150 --> 00:03:08,930 And then in the headlines that came out, Roy Gardner, the smiling mail train 49 00:03:08,930 --> 00:03:12,170 bandit, escaped from jail. 50 00:03:12,830 --> 00:03:18,850 And my dad had a picture of him. And my dad was on his beat walking. 51 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:21,190 And then another man was walking. 52 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,380 towards my dad, across from him, and he was all bandaged up. His hands was 53 00:03:27,380 --> 00:03:31,880 bandaged, his face was bandaged, and he had a suit on. 54 00:03:32,300 --> 00:03:37,180 So my dad looked at him, and he followed him to the hotel, went up to the room, 55 00:03:37,340 --> 00:03:41,300 knocked on the door, and he says, I think you're Roy Gardner. 56 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,600 He knocked the gun out of my dad's hand, but he didn't know how strong my dad 57 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,100 was. See, my dad was like a superman. 58 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:50,740 So my dad got him down. 59 00:03:51,740 --> 00:03:55,300 and hit him on the head with a billy club and put handcuffs on him. He got a 60 00:03:55,300 --> 00:03:56,300 ,000 reward. 61 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,020 There was a theater man. 62 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,320 He had a camera, a motion picture camera. 63 00:04:02,660 --> 00:04:07,440 So he says, you know, Mr. Sonny, he says, you know, you're very popular. You 64 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,300 should go in the show business. 65 00:04:10,100 --> 00:04:15,280 And he says, I'd like to make a motion picture of you and react to capture. 66 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,959 My dad says, okay, let's go. 67 00:04:19,940 --> 00:04:20,940 Good luck, Gardner. 68 00:04:21,390 --> 00:04:24,050 Hope to never see you again. I hope that I never come back again. 69 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:25,550 Thank you. 70 00:04:26,870 --> 00:04:27,849 Thank you. 71 00:04:27,850 --> 00:04:28,870 Well, goodbye, Roy. 72 00:04:29,130 --> 00:04:29,949 Good luck. 73 00:04:29,950 --> 00:04:33,150 Thanks to you. I hope that I never see you again. Well, the same to you. 74 00:04:35,270 --> 00:04:36,510 How are you? 75 00:04:37,650 --> 00:04:41,650 Mr. Sonny, I don't know how to begin to thank you for what you've done for me. 76 00:04:42,070 --> 00:04:46,830 And I'll do everything humanly possible to justify the confidence you have 77 00:04:46,830 --> 00:04:47,830 placed in me. 78 00:04:48,530 --> 00:04:50,070 I say it's a hard way. 79 00:04:51,340 --> 00:04:55,360 Now, I want to again become a respected citizen. 80 00:04:56,060 --> 00:04:59,400 I hope I may, and I know I will. 81 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:02,860 So that's how we went in show business. 82 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:08,820 And my dad started going on a road, a pantagious vaudeville circuit. 83 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:14,880 A man had captured Roy Gardner. You see, Roy Gardner's name in them days was 84 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,080 like Dillinger. And then he'd stand outside of the theater. 85 00:05:19,530 --> 00:05:21,390 And then he would say, shake hands. 86 00:05:21,630 --> 00:05:22,810 What do you mean, shake hands? 87 00:05:25,810 --> 00:05:27,670 He's real fast on handcuffs. 88 00:05:28,250 --> 00:05:32,230 It was a tough life. That road stuff wasn't good at all. 89 00:05:32,770 --> 00:05:35,090 I hated that when I used to be on the road. 90 00:05:35,310 --> 00:05:38,350 I used to go to Billings, Montana, Missoula, Montana. 91 00:05:38,670 --> 00:05:42,570 You'd carry the can of film. You'd go put window cards out to advertise. 92 00:05:43,090 --> 00:05:44,850 You'd put your displays out. 93 00:05:45,110 --> 00:05:46,710 And it was just terrible. 94 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:56,680 He was showing someplace on Spring Street or Main Street in Los Angeles, 95 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,640 Dwayne Esper was showing in another theater down the street about three or 96 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,400 blocks. My dad was showing one of his prison pictures and not doing much 97 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,160 business at all, and Dwayne Esper had a lineup second to none. 98 00:06:10,420 --> 00:06:14,140 My dad walked down there and said, what the hell is this guy selling? He was 99 00:06:14,140 --> 00:06:15,280 selling sex, you know. 100 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,400 Seven Commandments don't screw around screwing somebody else's wife. 101 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:23,620 My dad never knew nothing about that. He used to handcuff people. 102 00:06:24,500 --> 00:06:29,640 Anyway, he got out of the criminal business and went into the sex business. 103 00:06:29,740 --> 00:06:30,820 Let's put it that way. 104 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,740 Then later on, they made a picture maniac. 105 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,080 And then that's how we got into the exploitation business. 106 00:06:46,430 --> 00:06:48,170 What was in that pipe? 107 00:06:55,290 --> 00:06:59,750 In Maniac's case, they tried to just shock you with horror elements, and it 108 00:06:59,750 --> 00:07:05,870 not successful until Louis Sonny changed the title to Sex Maniac. Hey, you know, 109 00:07:05,910 --> 00:07:08,710 then big difference. Then it became very successful. It's a wonderfully 110 00:07:08,710 --> 00:07:10,350 sleazy... 111 00:07:11,150 --> 00:07:15,510 creepy kind of film because it operated, you know, completely out of the laws of 112 00:07:15,510 --> 00:07:18,450 the other horror films of the 30s. I mean, it bears nothing to do with the 113 00:07:18,450 --> 00:07:21,830 Universal films or any of the films that were going on. They were showing a 114 00:07:21,830 --> 00:07:26,970 beating heart in a jar, you know, a guy plucking a cat's eyeball out and then 115 00:07:26,970 --> 00:07:31,170 eating it. I mean, this is something that's so far beyond what you would 116 00:07:31,820 --> 00:07:37,940 So it's a very odd, exhilarating, incomprehensible film, but it works 117 00:07:37,940 --> 00:07:40,960 because you're sitting there shaking your head today saying, I have not seen 118 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:41,960 something like this. 119 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,020 You know the greatest thing Dan Sonny ever taught me? 120 00:07:46,580 --> 00:07:49,040 A movie is like a flower sack. 121 00:07:49,660 --> 00:07:54,220 No matter how many times you shake it, a little more flower still comes out. 122 00:07:54,220 --> 00:07:59,880 That's right. And if you don't, then you change the title to get some more 123 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:00,880 flower in there. 124 00:08:02,130 --> 00:08:05,070 You just keep changing the title until you get more flour. 125 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:15,730 What the idea was, was to attract people to your film by showing them something 126 00:08:15,730 --> 00:08:18,410 taboo, something forbidden, something that you couldn't see in the average 127 00:08:18,410 --> 00:08:22,990 Hollywood film. Well, it shows that if a girl does something wrong, she'll get 128 00:08:22,990 --> 00:08:27,810 pregnant or go to jail or things like that. 129 00:08:28,610 --> 00:08:30,790 Mostly get pregnant if they do something wrong. 130 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:36,419 Now, mind you, they had to package it so it all looked like these were very 131 00:08:36,419 --> 00:08:40,000 moral films. You know, it's the old canard about we're going to preach 132 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,360 here by showing you all the sin. 133 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,840 And that was the shell game involved, and that's the fun of them. I think both 134 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,720 of those words fit in together as far as I'm concerned. Education and 135 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:57,380 exploitation is good because it makes the people come in to see and get 136 00:08:57,380 --> 00:08:58,680 educated on exploitation. 137 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Adults only. 138 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,820 I thought I was doing good. 139 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,660 Alcoholism, birth, 140 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:13,740 venereal disease, roadhouses, miscegenation, prostitution, any of the 141 00:09:13,740 --> 00:09:19,300 subjects were fair game for the exploiteer just as long as it was in bad 142 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,480 If it was liquor, liquor leads to sex. 143 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,320 Gambling, gambling leads to sex. 144 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,320 Drugs, drugs leads to sex. 145 00:09:27,589 --> 00:09:31,570 And sex leads to, usually sex leads to more sex, which in the roadshow films 146 00:09:31,570 --> 00:09:32,529 usually the whorehouse. 147 00:09:32,530 --> 00:09:36,030 You know, I mean, that was the favorite destination for a bad girl is the 148 00:09:36,030 --> 00:09:37,650 whorehouse. Here we are, honey. 149 00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:45,290 Oh, uh, girls, this is Judy. 150 00:09:45,650 --> 00:09:46,650 Hello. 151 00:09:47,410 --> 00:09:49,330 You're going to like the girls here, Judy. 152 00:09:49,710 --> 00:09:52,570 We're all just one big happy family. 153 00:09:54,030 --> 00:09:55,030 Come on. 154 00:09:55,890 --> 00:09:57,270 There's a nice new kimono. 155 00:09:57,770 --> 00:09:58,770 Get into it. 156 00:09:59,150 --> 00:10:02,130 Then have a bite of supper and be ready to go to work. 157 00:10:02,690 --> 00:10:05,310 Work? What kind of a place is this anyway? 158 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:20,630 But there was always in every one of them, at the beginning of the picture, 159 00:10:20,630 --> 00:10:21,810 we call the square -up. 160 00:10:22,170 --> 00:10:24,230 And this was a crawl that rolled. 161 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,900 Well, for example, with Child Bride. 162 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,240 Now listen, Jenny. 163 00:10:29,260 --> 00:10:30,540 I'm going to be your husband. 164 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,560 And you want to be nice to me because if you don't, you know what will happen to 165 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:36,560 your mama. 166 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,280 Do you understand? 167 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,300 Yes. All right, now take this. 168 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,480 Go on, go on, take it. 169 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,900 We show this picture not in any... 170 00:10:49,390 --> 00:10:55,050 attempt to exploit the evils of child marriage as it exists in the mountains 171 00:10:55,050 --> 00:10:59,630 Appalachia, but to hope through the showing of this picture that the public 172 00:10:59,630 --> 00:11:03,470 be educated and that this vast evil will be stamped out. 173 00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:04,970 Sincerely, the producers. 174 00:11:05,270 --> 00:11:06,310 No, you just changed that. 175 00:11:07,010 --> 00:11:12,870 Prostitution, alcoholism, dope, you know, you just inserted whatever the 176 00:11:12,870 --> 00:11:13,870 was. 177 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,460 What I did, they had a burlesque theater downtown. 178 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:30,820 I would go down there and make a deal with the stage manager and the burlesque 179 00:11:30,820 --> 00:11:34,940 people, and we'd shoot the whole show, and that would be my burlesque show. 180 00:11:35,420 --> 00:11:41,300 And I took that on the road years ago, and I'd start playing midnight shows 181 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:43,440 and do a hell of a business. 182 00:11:43,860 --> 00:11:47,260 Well, I made one with Lily Sincere. 183 00:11:49,150 --> 00:11:51,230 And the name of that was Love Moods. 184 00:11:53,210 --> 00:11:58,650 See, she got out of the bathtub, and what she did was put on clothes. 185 00:11:59,310 --> 00:12:01,590 See, she got out of the bathtub in a nude. 186 00:12:02,550 --> 00:12:06,070 We gave her, I think for one day, we gave her $5 ,000. 187 00:12:06,350 --> 00:12:11,670 But don't forget, $5 ,000 them days was like $50 ,000 as now. 188 00:12:11,930 --> 00:12:16,550 It was a good, safe way of showing naked women, or partially naked women. 189 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,580 And still skirting the issues of sex and, you know, the forbidden... 190 00:12:20,580 --> 00:12:27,940 You 191 00:12:27,940 --> 00:12:31,840 can't discuss forbidden adventure lightly. You just have to take a deep 192 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,940 It's hard to... You know, we're talking about exploitation. We're talking about 193 00:12:35,940 --> 00:12:37,920 stuff that they've shown on American screens. 194 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,040 And then you have to stop and you say, now, wait a minute. 195 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:43,620 This is about... 196 00:12:43,820 --> 00:12:48,500 Gorillas mating with women. You know, what kind of a subject is that? Gorillas 197 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:52,300 mate with women. That's the subject of it. It's about two explorers who 198 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:57,140 allegedly go to the lost city of Angkor in what used to be Cambodia. 199 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:03,340 And they, of course, are led there by an all -topless safari of native women. 200 00:13:03,620 --> 00:13:08,200 But the highlight of the film is that, well, how come, what happened to 201 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,080 everybody in Angkor? Oh, well, they got all... 202 00:13:11,390 --> 00:13:15,150 Rape by monkeys, I guess. I still don't understand what the hell they're 203 00:13:15,150 --> 00:13:16,049 claiming happened. 204 00:13:16,050 --> 00:13:17,350 Women and monkeys. 205 00:13:17,990 --> 00:13:20,230 We stopped dead in our tracks. 206 00:13:20,850 --> 00:13:24,670 The dance we had seen at Nun Ben leapt into our minds. 207 00:13:25,090 --> 00:13:30,110 Again, the incredible suggestion of apes wielding power over human beings. 208 00:13:30,390 --> 00:13:36,110 Monkey adoration. Monkey domination ruling the people of Cambodia since the 209 00:13:36,110 --> 00:13:37,350 when Angkor was built. 210 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,960 Ten centuries ago. 211 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,380 When they file at the end of the film, the big highlight is, of course, all the 212 00:13:42,380 --> 00:13:45,660 women not only are still mating with the gorillas, but they're trying to protect 213 00:13:45,660 --> 00:13:47,400 the gorillas in this weird gorilla worship. 214 00:13:47,620 --> 00:13:51,540 And I mean, do I need to keep going on? This is just I mean, it's jaw dropping. 215 00:13:51,700 --> 00:13:55,280 They had a little storyline. I couldn't follow it. But there was a little 216 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,040 storyline in there someplace. 217 00:13:57,860 --> 00:14:01,440 Dwayne Esper made it. We'd have to dig him up to ask him. 218 00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:05,570 Somebody had to go see these. I mean, you know, there's a couple saying, hey, 219 00:14:05,610 --> 00:14:08,390 you want to see the new Clark Gable film or would you like to go see a couple of 220 00:14:08,390 --> 00:14:12,910 gorillas, bops and babes? Oh, let's go see that. I mean, I... What made it 221 00:14:12,910 --> 00:14:17,590 popular is the bare breast and the native girls. 222 00:14:19,870 --> 00:14:20,870 And that's it. 223 00:14:29,170 --> 00:14:31,090 This wasn't an exploitation movie. 224 00:14:31,830 --> 00:14:34,430 This here was Mau Mau. 225 00:14:34,630 --> 00:14:38,330 It was just like a travelogue is what it was. 226 00:14:38,810 --> 00:14:42,110 And the name was Mau Mau. 227 00:14:42,410 --> 00:14:47,850 These guys filmed what was ostensibly a serious or, you know, somewhat 228 00:14:47,850 --> 00:14:50,730 legitimate, let's say, documentary on the Mau Mau uprising. 229 00:14:51,130 --> 00:14:56,030 Hello, I'm Chet Huntley. And they even had Chet Huntley as a narrator in the 230 00:14:56,030 --> 00:14:58,410 beginning who must have, you know, fallen for this scam. 231 00:14:58,750 --> 00:15:01,050 But what are they going to do with it? It was a little too raw for television, 232 00:15:01,150 --> 00:15:05,630 so it was a little too short as a feature, so they brought it to Dan 233 00:15:05,630 --> 00:15:11,770 despite the little bit of massacre footage in it, he realized it's still 234 00:15:11,770 --> 00:15:14,210 usey enough to sell as an exploitation film. 235 00:15:15,890 --> 00:15:21,130 So I wanted to put a little sex in it. 236 00:15:21,470 --> 00:15:25,850 I went to a title guy down there, and he's the guy that... 237 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:31,220 that went in his back, and he had a little studio, and he shot these scenes 238 00:15:31,220 --> 00:15:38,060 me with colored women and this and that. We built a fire, and I inserted 239 00:15:38,060 --> 00:15:39,060 it into Mau Mau. 240 00:15:39,660 --> 00:15:42,860 And so I wanted to make an exploitation picture. 241 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:48,340 They recreated Africa right there on Cordova Street and, you know, round up 242 00:15:48,340 --> 00:15:52,180 local African Americans from the neighborhood, and it's really, it's such 243 00:15:52,180 --> 00:15:54,720 embarrassment. Their idea of Africa is... 244 00:15:55,210 --> 00:16:00,090 There's an awful little painted backdrop that must be about as far away from the 245 00:16:00,090 --> 00:16:03,130 actors as this bookshelf is from me, with a little painted hut. 246 00:16:03,510 --> 00:16:10,270 And I shot some footage for the stills. I needed stills. But I put the 247 00:16:10,270 --> 00:16:15,990 film in the... I cut it in a little bit, you know, to make exploitation out of 248 00:16:15,990 --> 00:16:16,990 it. 249 00:16:17,770 --> 00:16:22,350 The whole campaign was built around those three minutes. If you see any 250 00:16:22,350 --> 00:16:24,450 work or artwork from Mau Mau, it's always... 251 00:16:24,700 --> 00:16:27,820 Those anonymous people that they rounded up in the neighborhood. 252 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,500 And it's just, you know, it's just another wonderful scam, a little more 253 00:16:32,500 --> 00:16:35,820 than most. But then again, I'm not sure how I'm not sure how an audience back in 254 00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:36,820 the mid 50s. 255 00:16:37,060 --> 00:16:39,540 I'm not sure if they would have seen through the duplicity of it. They may 256 00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:43,260 been looked at this and thought, wow, well, I'm surprised they got camera so 257 00:16:43,260 --> 00:16:44,260 close to me. 258 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,060 We never did make any money. I wish I had my money back on that thing. 259 00:16:48,380 --> 00:16:49,480 Mama don't mean nothing. 260 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,640 If you put a name, Mau Mau Sex Sex, then you could get the money. 261 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,140 That sex is what sells, you know. 262 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,900 Mau Mau don't sell. 263 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,300 These were grindhouses that played this stuff, you know. So you're not going to 264 00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:08,060 get widespread distribution because you're limited to theaters that would 265 00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:12,859 show, you know, where your audience is more interested in tearing up seats than 266 00:17:12,859 --> 00:17:13,859 movies. 267 00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:20,380 You could not be in this household without being somehow involved in the 268 00:17:20,380 --> 00:17:23,700 business. There were a lot of people in and out of my father's office, just like 269 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:27,339 he had said that a lot of people were drawn there. I think it was because it 270 00:17:27,339 --> 00:17:28,580 an office that was stable. 271 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,660 He was stable. He made money. 272 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,520 He would trade. 273 00:17:34,940 --> 00:17:39,840 Dad, I remember one of my earliest memories is my father, when we lived in 274 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,240 Portland, big barrels of dishes were being unloaded because Dad had made some 275 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,260 deal on some film. 276 00:17:45,870 --> 00:17:52,730 with dishes i mean silverware jewelry i mean he's a willer dealer there was a 277 00:17:52,730 --> 00:17:56,990 lot of card playing a lot of cigar smoking a lot of people in and out all 278 00:17:56,990 --> 00:18:01,090 time but at the same time it was orderly i mean it was like they were getting 279 00:18:01,090 --> 00:18:05,990 all that stuff done but mostly it was the people it was the characters each 280 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:09,850 of these people is a character my father's a character dave's a character 281 00:18:09,850 --> 00:18:13,170 everybody that walked in that office was the character they were right out of a 282 00:18:13,170 --> 00:18:14,170 movie 283 00:18:16,179 --> 00:18:21,180 Now that he's an old, old man, now I tell him what to do all the time. 284 00:18:21,700 --> 00:18:23,120 Yeah, she's a boss now. 285 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,400 Now I'm the boss. 286 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:25,920 She's a boss. Yeah, right. 287 00:18:26,180 --> 00:18:29,460 Let's see, what am I, I want a glass. When he lets me be the boss. I want a 288 00:18:29,460 --> 00:18:31,460 glass. But she was married twice. 289 00:18:31,700 --> 00:18:34,400 I'm married twice. I was married one time. 290 00:18:34,620 --> 00:18:35,900 Oh, one time. God. 291 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,160 That's right. It just seemed like it was five times. 292 00:18:40,460 --> 00:18:41,920 He's kind of, uh... 293 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,960 brute in a way in his dealings with women. 294 00:18:46,540 --> 00:18:48,820 Women are not on the same level. 295 00:18:49,020 --> 00:18:52,720 I think that's why, or when we grew up that's how it was, but I think that's 296 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,680 he had four daughters to prove him wrong. 297 00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:29,520 When dad owned a art theater. 298 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,500 The La Brea Theater. The La Brea Theater in our. 299 00:19:33,580 --> 00:19:38,300 On 9th La Brea. In our neighborhood where we grew up in our Catholic church 300 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:43,180 school. We all went to Catholic school. It's right down the next block down. So 301 00:19:43,180 --> 00:19:44,300 when dad opened this theater. 302 00:19:44,820 --> 00:19:46,260 Now it was an art theater. 303 00:19:46,910 --> 00:19:50,510 It had originally been the neighborhood theater where we'd go and watch, you 304 00:19:50,510 --> 00:19:53,710 know, Abbott and Costello and all that. And then Dad bought it, turned it into 305 00:19:53,710 --> 00:19:58,830 this art theater. So when Dad opened the theater, he invited all of the 306 00:19:58,830 --> 00:20:00,570 Catholic, the priests, everybody. 307 00:20:00,810 --> 00:20:04,590 But he opens it with some Swedish film where they're giving birth on the 308 00:20:04,750 --> 00:20:08,930 I mean, all the way. And I think half of the audience got up and walked out when 309 00:20:08,930 --> 00:20:12,030 it was going on. You remember that, Danny? No, I don't remember nothing. 310 00:20:12,250 --> 00:20:14,610 You don't? I don't want to remember anything bad. 311 00:20:16,270 --> 00:20:22,970 I thought that the stuff that my dad did was probably pretty risque, but 312 00:20:22,970 --> 00:20:27,450 I had, like, this double moral standard, you know, I guess going on in me 313 00:20:27,450 --> 00:20:31,970 unconsciously. Like, well, my dad makes his money this way. Like, Mom didn't 314 00:20:31,970 --> 00:20:38,030 like his name on the film. You know, he didn't want Dan Sonny on the film when 315 00:20:38,030 --> 00:20:42,010 they were being made because somebody in the church might see it or it would 316 00:20:42,010 --> 00:20:44,130 hurt the girls if somebody saw it. 317 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,580 It wasn't like, 318 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,060 I never really thought of it as any big deal, because I knew it wasn't really a 319 00:20:51,060 --> 00:20:53,700 big deal. And I thought, after I grew a little older, I thought the Catholic 320 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:56,940 Church made much too much about a lot of things, you know. 321 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,239 Wake up, Daddy. 322 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:04,640 Yeah, you've got to have Dave around all the time to keep you awake. Yeah. 323 00:21:05,660 --> 00:21:08,100 Dave is the world's greatest carny. 324 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,820 And he's a very brilliant man. 325 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:19,560 You know, I used to get a letter in my office and start reading it, and he was 326 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,520 standing on the other side of my desk, and he could tell me, read it upside 327 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,260 down, faster than I could read it frontward, and tell me what was in the 328 00:21:28,260 --> 00:21:29,260 before I read it. 329 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,020 That's how good he is. 330 00:21:31,660 --> 00:21:37,960 Well, six o 'clock and we got our first big bill. That's not bad. 331 00:21:42,060 --> 00:21:44,540 I got to sign some passes for those cops. 332 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:51,360 There's only one Dave, and he's the world's greatest carny. You want a 333 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,020 You want a bunny, huh? 334 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,060 All you got to do is sit, see. 335 00:21:58,460 --> 00:22:00,880 The balls land in the saucer, you win a bunny. 336 00:22:02,940 --> 00:22:07,780 Keep an eye on that back entrance there. I blocked it, but if you see anybody, 337 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,480 just run them out. If they give you any argument, why? 338 00:22:11,150 --> 00:22:14,350 Then you'll call the coppers. We've got coppers out here all over the life. 339 00:22:14,610 --> 00:22:16,310 And never turn down a finger. Yeah. 340 00:22:18,810 --> 00:22:22,490 Where were you all week? We needed some help here on the rides for crying out 341 00:22:22,490 --> 00:22:26,070 loud. I was in North California. 342 00:22:26,510 --> 00:22:30,950 Oh. All right, well, teardown is Sunday night, so be here for teardown. 343 00:22:32,210 --> 00:22:33,330 You got my deuce? 344 00:22:34,610 --> 00:22:35,750 You got my deuce? 345 00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:37,630 All right. 346 00:22:38,550 --> 00:22:39,550 There you go. 347 00:22:39,630 --> 00:22:43,030 Looking at the weather report, I said, look out the window. Don't put any 348 00:22:43,030 --> 00:22:44,810 attention to these idiots with these. 349 00:22:45,050 --> 00:22:46,750 They could scare off more people. 350 00:22:47,130 --> 00:22:49,670 Yep. All you got to do is look out the window. Look out the window. All right. 351 00:22:49,950 --> 00:22:50,950 You need anything, Captain? 352 00:22:51,650 --> 00:22:53,630 Yeah, give me that. Oh, it's up behind my phone. 353 00:22:54,110 --> 00:22:55,610 All right. 354 00:22:55,850 --> 00:22:57,690 I could use about three. I'm working. 355 00:22:57,890 --> 00:22:58,890 All right. 356 00:22:59,390 --> 00:23:02,610 The Eternal Order of Police Lodge takes care of our parking. 357 00:23:03,390 --> 00:23:07,290 We make a donation for their charities at the end of the fair every year. 358 00:23:08,610 --> 00:23:10,510 That's what's called squaring up the cup. 359 00:23:12,510 --> 00:23:19,090 Well, now you've seen our happy little midway. Let's wait till it gets a little 360 00:23:19,090 --> 00:23:24,170 darker and you'll see the thundering herd where we will proceed to separate 361 00:23:24,170 --> 00:23:25,690 suckers from their shekels. 362 00:23:28,150 --> 00:23:33,450 The carnival was the birthplace of exploitation in every way. And 363 00:23:33,450 --> 00:23:36,110 eventually, of course, 364 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,480 What did people go to the carnival to see most? 365 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,740 The Couch Show. 366 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,440 The Girly Show. 367 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,740 Hey, hey, hey, this is a show where they take it off, roll it out, wrap it up, 368 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,780 throw it right at you. This is a show for those between the ages of 18 and 85. 369 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:56,520 You're under 18, you wouldn't understand it. You're over 85, you couldn't stand 370 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,280 it. Now, we've got 16 beautiful girls on the inside in various stages of dress 371 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,280 and undress. Now, I'm going to bring these girls out here on this stage just 372 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,360 more time, and I want you all to notice one thing. All of these young ladies is 373 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:13,800 going to be wearing a red kimono. Now, I want you to look. Examine that kimono 374 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,860 very carefully. Look at the sheer material in that kimono. Because once 375 00:24:18,860 --> 00:24:22,280 inside, you're never going to see those kimonos again, but you're going to see 376 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,860 everything that was underneath them. You see, now that became the nudie, the 377 00:24:27,860 --> 00:24:33,080 nudie cutie. In fact, the nudie cutie was the thing that destroyed girl shows 378 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,400 carnivals. Because now... 379 00:24:35,790 --> 00:24:40,750 Every theater, every town in the country of any size had an adult theater, and 380 00:24:40,750 --> 00:24:44,710 the guys could walk in and see nudist camp pictures and nudie cooties on 381 00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:49,170 40 feet wide, 20 feet high with beautiful young Hollywood girls. They 382 00:24:49,170 --> 00:24:51,530 to go on some carnival to see some poor old gal. 383 00:24:51,810 --> 00:24:55,730 So that was the, everything started on the lot. 384 00:24:56,570 --> 00:25:00,050 I had a very good job at Paramount. I was in the publicity department. 385 00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:04,030 I traveled the country. I didn't have that much supervision. 386 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,320 I pretty much could dictate my own hours. 387 00:25:08,820 --> 00:25:13,780 I had a fairly decent salary, a nice expense account. 388 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:20,280 My bosses liked me. As a matter of fact, before I decided to leave, they had 389 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,840 offered me the job as head of the department in New York City. That was 390 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,040 when the home offices were all in New York. 391 00:25:27,380 --> 00:25:33,260 But I just decided that I'd like to be in business for myself. 392 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:39,960 And I'd always been fascinated by the never -never, the underbelly, say, 393 00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:46,040 of show business, the carnivals, the exploitation, everything, and it seemed 394 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,540 like a good go for the dough. 395 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:14,080 This is the one sheet from my favorite picture, She -Freak. 396 00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:21,620 And the rest of it is just an accumulation of things I have done, 397 00:26:21,620 --> 00:26:24,400 of old circus and carnival posters. 398 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,180 And this is kind of my personal museum. 399 00:26:30,220 --> 00:26:31,480 This is my wife. 400 00:26:32,820 --> 00:26:35,140 I was out ahead of a picture called Houdini. 401 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,480 with Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh about the great American magician. 402 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,140 An old carny buddy of mine could hang by his heels from the top of a building 403 00:26:45,140 --> 00:26:49,080 and escape from a straitjacket. This was in Indianapolis. This was when you 404 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,460 could do a street stunt and tie up the whole town. 405 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,960 And, of course, hopefully after they'd seen this poor old guy hang by his 406 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,580 get out of the straitjacket, they'd all go in and see the movie. 407 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,300 So the next town I went to was Des Moines, and I had a little gag there. 408 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,940 Anybody that can escape from this straitjacket will give $100. 409 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,460 So this kid was the first in line. 410 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,380 Of course, it was gaffed, and I showed him how to do it. 411 00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:17,480 And he gets out. The first guy in line gets out. He wins the $100. 412 00:27:17,980 --> 00:27:24,980 So then it became an AP story that a local boy outwits big city press agent 413 00:27:24,980 --> 00:27:26,920 and broke the wires all over the country. 414 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,600 Come here. 415 00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:36,610 Tell them about what happened there one night. This was at a small circus in 416 00:27:36,610 --> 00:27:43,430 downstate Illinois, and they had no girls riding elephants, and they offered 417 00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:47,190 to let me ride it and put me in this rather brief costume. 418 00:27:47,610 --> 00:27:53,910 And I was thrown by the elephant's trunk up onto the elephant's back, and the 419 00:27:53,910 --> 00:27:55,590 keeper walked. 420 00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:01,060 By me as we went around, and that is one of the most exciting things that I have 421 00:28:01,060 --> 00:28:06,120 ever done. Looking into the face of the audience looking up at you with their 422 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:10,060 mouths open and stuff, it was really marvelous. It was pouring down rain. The 423 00:28:10,060 --> 00:28:12,900 tent was leaking, and you could see the elephant was wet. 424 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:17,720 You were a mass of mud when you got off of that thing. By the time they pulled 425 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,220 me down, I had mud on skin as well as costume. 426 00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:23,760 There was the greatest act. 427 00:28:24,110 --> 00:28:25,110 ever in history. 428 00:28:25,250 --> 00:28:29,010 Johnny North was telling me one day, he says, I'm bringing back the greatest act 429 00:28:29,010 --> 00:28:32,690 in history. I said, what's that? He said, Mr. Miston. I said, what does he 430 00:28:32,810 --> 00:28:34,910 He said, well, he's only six years old. I said, what are you going to do, shoot 431 00:28:34,910 --> 00:28:35,910 him out of a cannon? 432 00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:38,130 He says, no, he's a xylophone player. 433 00:28:38,550 --> 00:28:43,150 I said, a xylophone player in a circus? He said, well, you've got to see this 434 00:28:43,150 --> 00:28:45,930 kid. He can hold eight sticks and play. 435 00:28:46,450 --> 00:28:50,430 Sure enough, he brought him in. I went to the opening of the show in New York, 436 00:28:50,550 --> 00:28:53,370 and the kid comes in, eight sticks. 437 00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:56,940 Starts playing the potent peasant overture. It was unbelievable. 438 00:28:57,540 --> 00:29:00,880 Of course, out on the road, people were saying, is that all he does? 439 00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:07,320 Don't he dive into some water or get shot out of a cannon or something? How 440 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,760 did he last? One season. 441 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,720 Oh, so they really didn't like him in small town? Oh, no, no. He was great in 442 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,060 New York. And then when they took the show to Havana, they loved him down 443 00:29:17,180 --> 00:29:21,160 But what are you going to do with him in Oskaloosa, Iowa? 444 00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:23,120 I mean, they don't know from... 445 00:29:23,980 --> 00:29:25,000 They thought he was a midget. 446 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,720 My husband Paul was a practicing nudist. 447 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,320 I don't think you understood me. 448 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,840 I said Paul was a nudist. 449 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,920 When nudity first started appearing on the screen, when nudity as a subject, 450 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,620 okay, as a genre could be made. 451 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,860 You know, you had your little innocent nudist camp films where everybody played 452 00:29:53,860 --> 00:29:57,360 volleyball and no one had genitalia, and everybody just waved, and everybody was 453 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,400 just, it was just wonderful. Life was just so much better in the sunshine 454 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,480 wearing the wind, okay? 455 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:07,600 You went into a nudist camp, and they played volleyball, and you couldn't show 456 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,500 any fronts. You could show ladies' breasts, of course, and you could show 457 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:19,200 derrieres of both male and female, but you didn't show any genital or pubic 458 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,980 nudity. So it was kind of difficult in shooting a volleyball game because no 459 00:30:23,980 --> 00:30:27,280 matter which side you were on, the other side was facing you, so you were always 460 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,280 shooting up. 461 00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:49,980 Basically, 462 00:30:50,170 --> 00:30:55,210 When we were shooting those things in those Florida nudist camps, we had to 463 00:30:55,210 --> 00:30:56,830 the mines, so to speak. 464 00:30:57,970 --> 00:31:04,910 The real nudists were not the most erotic 465 00:31:04,910 --> 00:31:09,870 -looking or attractive young women, so we would hire models to come in and 466 00:31:09,870 --> 00:31:14,570 cavort around the nudist camp grounds and basically leave the camera on them. 467 00:31:14,850 --> 00:31:16,410 They've never been in a nudist camp. 468 00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:21,210 It's about as erotic as walking through the cold storage room of Swifton Company 469 00:31:21,210 --> 00:31:22,890 in the Chicago stockyard. 470 00:31:25,790 --> 00:31:29,930 Then you had what they called the nudie cuties. And this is because legally you 471 00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:30,930 still couldn't show sex. 472 00:31:31,010 --> 00:31:37,290 And to make these films even, you know, just not to make it safer, sex wasn't 473 00:31:37,290 --> 00:31:41,450 even implied. And usually in these, the man, there was a guy who would just 474 00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:43,530 watch the women and he was a voyeur. 475 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,900 Either he ran when the women got too close, or he would keep it distant. 476 00:31:47,260 --> 00:31:51,260 So it was kind of innocent, and it was women doing housework in the nude, just 477 00:31:51,260 --> 00:31:52,260 retarding things like that. 478 00:31:52,540 --> 00:31:56,380 But they were all very cheerful, and it idolized women. It sort of put them on 479 00:31:56,380 --> 00:32:01,260 kind of an offbeat pedestal. I mean, they were objects of beauty, you know, 480 00:32:01,260 --> 00:32:02,039 but don't touch. 481 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:07,540 Now, the nudie cuties were very rigid in their construction, that through some 482 00:32:07,540 --> 00:32:13,080 device, the lead character, either through magic spectacles or... 483 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,440 He had the power. He could see all of the ladies in various stages of dress 484 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,760 undress. Nobody else could. But he could walk down the street and all of these 485 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,420 ladies that were approaching him, he saw them in the nude. You know, maybe he 486 00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:30,160 had magic glasses or maybe he was the janitor of the building. Or in this 487 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,620 retarded case, he turns into animals. 488 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,360 One spot. 489 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,340 This one is so stupid that even in the midst of it, I'm sitting thinking, now 490 00:32:46,340 --> 00:32:51,440 wait a minute, now wait. If I just turned into a goldfish, and I lost my 491 00:32:51,580 --> 00:32:55,840 and I just had scales and fins, and I was submerged under water, would I still 492 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,800 be thinking it's cool to look at a woman's breasts? 493 00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:02,640 I mean, I'm not sure that, you know, first of all, even if I changed to a 494 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,760 goldfish, would I have the mental capacity to understand? And also, if 495 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,480 goldfish and you're looking at, I'm taking this too seriously, obviously, 496 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,560 you know. 497 00:33:11,180 --> 00:33:15,240 You know, if you're a goldfish, are you going to actually, will a pair of giant 498 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,020 breasts look attractive to you? I don't know. But that's the plot of it. You 499 00:33:18,020 --> 00:33:21,500 know, a guy turns into a little putty tat so the naked girl can hug the putty 500 00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:24,620 tat. And then he turns into another, you know, hey, whatever. 501 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,160 I mean, it's just insanity. And it's all that kind of wholesome, how many girls 502 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,720 with big breasts can we show you where we don't actually break the law and 503 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:35,960 there's no actual sex involved. 504 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:42,340 Dieter Mintz. He used to sell, boy, oh, could he sell pictures. 505 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,120 But, oh, they were god -awful. 506 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,800 Nothing was worse than the German nudies. You know, they were all with the 507 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,240 lederhosen. Oh, god, they were awful pictures. 508 00:33:56,100 --> 00:34:00,080 The girls weren't bad -looking. I'll say that. They were all blonde, Teutonic. 509 00:34:00,380 --> 00:34:07,100 girls, but the guys were all fat and they all had to have comedy in them. And 510 00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:11,620 the guys would be wearing those little Bavarian hats and the suspenders and the 511 00:34:11,620 --> 00:34:15,480 shorts. Oh, look at this. This must be the blaze. 512 00:34:17,020 --> 00:34:23,100 Pictures were not salacious. They were not obscene by any definition. 513 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:29,980 But because of the pressure of the church on these pictures, you fought 514 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,500 uphill all the way. 515 00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:36,560 The interesting thing about it was that it was only the independents, only the 516 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,440 exploiters that ever took on these sets of boards. The major companies didn't 517 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,139 have to. They were home free. 518 00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:04,080 Be sure you take plenty of cold water of your own because there ain't none out 519 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,080 there. 520 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:11,300 Where's the top? 521 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,200 Carol, where's the top? 522 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,960 I don't believe you. I do not believe you. 523 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,840 Carol, where is the top of the thermos? 524 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:29,600 Huh? 525 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:35,460 I think the son of a bitch should have, from the draft -dodging bastard, I think 526 00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:40,780 how he ever got to be the president is beyond me, and that wife of his who 527 00:35:40,780 --> 00:35:42,880 to be the queen of the United States. 528 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,060 You can't talk about my president like that. 529 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:49,320 I like him. 530 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:52,400 I like him. 531 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:59,600 I'll guarantee, you know, that you, of all people, you'd be the first one to 532 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,680 screw if he was making a picture. Because that's all you used to do. 533 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,340 That's all you used to do is make a picture, just screw the lady. 534 00:36:06,940 --> 00:36:07,940 Dan, 535 00:36:08,460 --> 00:36:10,240 that is without a doubt. 536 00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:12,640 Did I hurt you? I'm glad. 537 00:36:14,780 --> 00:36:15,780 Son of a bitch. 538 00:36:16,780 --> 00:36:20,740 Everybody accused me of having this long affair with Connie Mason. 539 00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:27,330 And I said in my book, of all of the beautiful and willing young women that I 540 00:36:27,330 --> 00:36:32,890 work with in movies, I'm happy to say that I never had illicit carnal 541 00:36:32,890 --> 00:36:35,510 with one. And that one was Connie Mason. 542 00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:41,530 You could believe it. You could believe it. He screwed every leading gal I ever 543 00:36:41,530 --> 00:36:42,690 made a picture with. 544 00:36:42,910 --> 00:36:43,910 Oh, Dan. 545 00:36:44,330 --> 00:36:46,410 Yeah. Lock this door. 546 00:37:24,170 --> 00:37:29,510 Dave's got that carny blood in him, and I think Dave also loves the scam. 547 00:37:29,830 --> 00:37:35,410 I think Dave loves, there's a little bit of larceny in this, and I think Dave 548 00:37:35,410 --> 00:37:36,610 loves that aspect of it. 549 00:37:39,950 --> 00:37:44,790 What was so immoral about what I was doing? We got all the time in the world, 550 00:37:44,810 --> 00:37:45,810 baby. 551 00:37:46,570 --> 00:37:48,230 All the time in the world. 552 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:57,380 i was pushing it i was one of the the founders i guess the uh i guess the one 553 00:37:57,380 --> 00:38:02,880 the leaders of the sexual revolution i've been uh 554 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:09,320 grandized by the liberals and calumnized by the uh conservatives for 555 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:16,020 my part in that but uh as you look back on it now it was all so innocent 556 00:38:16,020 --> 00:38:18,240 that uh 557 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,220 You wondered, what was all of the hullabaloo around? 558 00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:31,620 I don't apologize to anyone for some of the films I've made or some of the 559 00:38:31,620 --> 00:38:32,620 things I've done. 560 00:38:39,860 --> 00:38:42,860 They have to take today to pave this street. 561 00:38:51,690 --> 00:38:52,690 Let's go, idiot. 562 00:39:01,970 --> 00:39:06,690 I just help Margaret with... I help her do the washing. 563 00:39:07,330 --> 00:39:08,870 I help her do the dishes. 564 00:39:10,170 --> 00:39:14,810 The dishwasher is not full, so I'll wait until it gets full before I turn it on. 565 00:39:15,550 --> 00:39:18,750 And I'll leave the kitchen in pretty good shape for an old man. 566 00:39:20,010 --> 00:39:24,390 Now I'm going to walk over and start doing my laundry. 567 00:39:27,650 --> 00:39:34,610 Life is just taking it easy nowadays. When you get to be 84, you're lucky to 568 00:39:34,610 --> 00:39:35,630 to the bathroom by yourself. 569 00:39:37,050 --> 00:39:41,930 My wife and I have been married 62 years, and we have four lovely 570 00:39:42,370 --> 00:39:43,990 The oldest one is 61. 571 00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:46,190 The youngest one is 51. 572 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:53,560 The oldest one is a retired school teacher. 573 00:39:54,740 --> 00:40:01,540 And now I think I'll go over and get on a treadmill, 574 00:40:01,580 --> 00:40:02,580 get a little exercise. 575 00:40:03,380 --> 00:40:09,980 I can only walk about five different times a day on a treadmill one minute 576 00:40:09,980 --> 00:40:12,560 time because I got a bad hip. 577 00:40:13,780 --> 00:40:15,940 And this is the only way I can get any exercise. 578 00:40:26,410 --> 00:40:28,030 I'm going to get off in about a second. 579 00:40:30,030 --> 00:40:34,170 I think I'll go sit in my high chair now and watch television. 580 00:40:39,730 --> 00:40:44,410 It's going to 581 00:40:44,410 --> 00:40:51,210 rain in Palm Springs. 582 00:40:56,010 --> 00:41:01,690 The best thing I ever did was marry my wonderful wife, and we've been happy all 583 00:41:01,690 --> 00:41:03,310 these years. 584 00:41:04,510 --> 00:41:09,910 We did have a very good marriage, and the girls were well -educated and went 585 00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:13,030 college, and they all had their own cars. 586 00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:18,570 And if my wife happened to die, I wouldn't want to live a day without her. 587 00:41:19,130 --> 00:41:20,170 And this is true. 588 00:41:20,490 --> 00:41:21,490 Oh, dig me up. 589 00:41:22,830 --> 00:41:26,940 I told my wife, When I died, for her to commit suicide. 590 00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:28,920 Because I do the washing. 591 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,340 The dish washing, the clothes washing. 592 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,340 He helps me and I help him. 593 00:41:36,580 --> 00:41:39,580 And I think that really means a lot. 594 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:46,400 I think every child should have a mother and a father that don't drink. 595 00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:52,160 And that smoking is no good too. 596 00:41:57,290 --> 00:41:59,530 When Carl comes over, we play a lot of gin. 597 00:42:00,410 --> 00:42:01,690 It's a nice game. 598 00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:04,590 Count your cards. 599 00:42:05,470 --> 00:42:09,510 People that would come in my office, they're film salesmen. They'd either buy 600 00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:12,190 some of my pictures or I would buy some of their pictures. 601 00:42:12,570 --> 00:42:13,870 You son of a bitch. 602 00:42:14,170 --> 00:42:15,170 See? 603 00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:18,390 Just because you saw me, I want it. You're going to take it. Sure. 604 00:42:18,650 --> 00:42:22,570 You son of a bitch. You want it. Why should you be greedy? I always shuffle 605 00:42:22,570 --> 00:42:25,270 cards for you. You always get the choice. I don't care. You understand? 606 00:42:25,980 --> 00:42:29,500 You don't feel any guilt about that? No, not a bit. Not when it comes to 607 00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:31,140 gambling. Son of a bitch. 608 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,220 Good. See, I could use this and eat your heart out. I'm gambling my children's 609 00:42:35,220 --> 00:42:36,320 money. I hope so. 610 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,380 I'll throw them on the street. 611 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,700 Colonel, I don't want to say nothing, but you are a miserable person. 612 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,020 Listen, since I met you people, this is the way you get to be. 613 00:42:47,260 --> 00:42:48,960 My hobby was playing gin. 614 00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:53,400 They'd come into town just to play gin with me for three, four hours every day. 615 00:42:53,850 --> 00:42:55,610 I'd win all their money, all the time. 616 00:42:56,190 --> 00:42:59,090 Take him when he's down. You're building a good hand there. You're taking 617 00:42:59,090 --> 00:43:01,050 everything in the world. I can see it. 618 00:43:03,070 --> 00:43:07,250 So you'd win $30, $40, and then you'd go out and buy the guy a drink. 619 00:43:08,310 --> 00:43:11,030 What the hell are you talking about? 620 00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:13,710 Oh, God. 621 00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:19,630 You know, you go back to your sneaky self, you get that... You look like 622 00:43:19,630 --> 00:43:22,250 on your face there, and your belly aches about the worst cards. 623 00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:34,990 This is what's called a splice, Donna. 624 00:43:35,290 --> 00:43:37,250 You've seen these things in Vegas. 625 00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:39,690 And here we go. 626 00:43:41,010 --> 00:43:43,170 There we go. Here we go. 627 00:43:44,610 --> 00:43:46,910 Whoa! Close, but no cigar. 628 00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,440 We're getting there. 629 00:44:00,580 --> 00:44:01,580 Oh, right. 630 00:44:02,020 --> 00:44:04,060 Well, we're not getting there very good. 631 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,420 Ah, okay. 632 00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:14,120 We're making big progress. 633 00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:17,400 It's only going to cost $5 to win a quarter. 634 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,000 I'm gonna make a mess. 635 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:11,720 I was very small, seven or eight years old. I used to go out to the carnival, a 636 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:13,900 pretty good -sized carnival, the L .J. Hess shows. 637 00:45:14,220 --> 00:45:18,120 My mother would take me out there and leave me there all winter long, watch 638 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,540 painting the merry -go -round horses and painting those garish banners that used 639 00:45:23,540 --> 00:45:26,960 to go up in front of the girls' show and the sideshow. 640 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:33,500 I always said, boy, one day when they leave for the season, I'm going to leave 641 00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:34,500 with them. 642 00:45:44,430 --> 00:45:46,030 out to lunch with somebody every day. 643 00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:50,570 It's company, it passes time, and I'm getting my belly full. 644 00:45:51,590 --> 00:45:53,870 You can't get your belly full if you don't eat lunch. 645 00:45:56,530 --> 00:46:00,530 Now that I made my money, I don't think of business. 646 00:46:02,070 --> 00:46:06,830 So I like this retirement because I'm so old I can't go back on the road or even 647 00:46:06,830 --> 00:46:07,970 produce a motion picture. 648 00:46:11,050 --> 00:46:15,730 And I talk to Nanny quite a bit and pester him. We talk every day. We talk 649 00:46:15,730 --> 00:46:16,649 you two. 650 00:46:16,650 --> 00:46:18,630 Just find out we're both still living. 651 00:46:21,090 --> 00:46:22,990 Daddy, let's get Steve over here. 652 00:46:23,230 --> 00:46:24,350 He's okay over there. 653 00:46:24,990 --> 00:46:28,570 Don't you want to talk to him or anything? No. I ain't moving out of 654 00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:31,550 Open your mouth. 655 00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:34,390 Come on. Open your mouth. 656 00:46:35,610 --> 00:46:36,610 That's good. 657 00:46:39,210 --> 00:46:40,210 Open your mouth. 658 00:46:40,590 --> 00:46:41,970 Well, that's good cake, isn't it? 659 00:46:42,310 --> 00:46:44,850 Yeah, but that's all you're having is the cake. You want to eat this thing? 660 00:46:45,950 --> 00:46:46,950 Daddy. 661 00:46:47,890 --> 00:46:49,270 That's it. That's the last piece. 662 00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:55,770 That was a good dinner, honey. 663 00:46:56,930 --> 00:46:58,090 It was a good dinner. 664 00:46:58,330 --> 00:46:59,330 A long way to go. 665 00:47:00,230 --> 00:47:02,210 But I'll come here again before he dies. 666 00:47:02,930 --> 00:47:06,830 I'll be on the road for three or four months. 667 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,380 And I'd miss my wife. I'd been talking to her once a week. 668 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:15,860 When I'd go home to take a little rest, I'd probably knock up my wife, and then 669 00:47:15,860 --> 00:47:17,140 I'd go back on the road again. 670 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,460 And that happened until we had a poor daughter. 671 00:47:32,460 --> 00:47:34,880 Harold has always been very supportive. 672 00:47:35,790 --> 00:47:39,270 We've just passed the 47th anniversary. 673 00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:42,710 That's not totally usual these days. 674 00:48:03,150 --> 00:48:05,550 It was his affair as far as I was concerned. 675 00:48:06,510 --> 00:48:12,770 I always knew I could walk out if I wanted to or decided to, 676 00:48:12,910 --> 00:48:19,890 which maybe is one reason that it lasted as long as it did. Who 677 00:48:19,890 --> 00:48:20,890 knows? 678 00:48:21,530 --> 00:48:23,650 As long as it has, the better. 679 00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:29,610 And what I didn't want to see of what I had to sometimes sit through, I learned 680 00:48:29,610 --> 00:48:31,770 very early to... 681 00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:36,440 close my eyes and my ears, and not just didn't pay any attention to it. 682 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:42,020 I learned long ago in Hollywood that if something was sort of, hmm, you really 683 00:48:42,020 --> 00:48:47,240 didn't particularly care for it, you always said to the director or producer 684 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:50,000 whatever, oh, that's most interesting. 685 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:58,700 What is something that no one has done that we could do that, you know, 686 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,980 suddenly the word gore comes up? 687 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:08,140 Could you think of a legitimate reason for torture or 688 00:49:08,140 --> 00:49:10,040 mutilation? Oh, yeah. 689 00:49:10,460 --> 00:49:13,940 Have you ever had an Egyptian feast? 690 00:49:18,460 --> 00:49:25,360 Out of that comes the idea of this ancient Egyptian caterer 691 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:30,580 who must prepare a blood feast using the vital organs from virgins. 692 00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:37,720 It was a blast. 693 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,460 It was a lot of fun. 694 00:49:40,260 --> 00:49:45,380 The big problem was all of these girls who were being mutilated, horribly, 695 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:46,540 horribly mutilated. 696 00:49:47,140 --> 00:49:50,380 Keeping them from giggling was the biggest problem we had. 697 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:57,740 In the key scene, I found a girl named Astrid Olsen who had a very large mouth, 698 00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,240 a very pretty girl. 699 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,380 She, too, came from Playboy. 700 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,740 And we had this sheep's tongue. 701 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,460 And we'd had it several days, and we'd been keeping it in the refrigerator in 702 00:50:08,460 --> 00:50:12,440 little suite there, but it was getting a little... So we put some pine salt on 703 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:19,160 it. And we fill Astrid's mouth up with this combination 704 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:24,860 of jello, strawberry jello, and this... The other advantage of this blood was 705 00:50:24,860 --> 00:50:26,080 that it was not fatal. 706 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:31,660 In fact, one of the components of it, which we didn't tell the actors, it was 707 00:50:31,660 --> 00:50:32,660 kaopectate. 708 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:41,020 We fill the girl's mouth up with this jello and this blood compound. 709 00:50:41,260 --> 00:50:47,120 And we show the close -up of him ripping her tongue out. 710 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:56,060 And then we pan down to this gaping mouth, oozing this jello and 711 00:50:56,060 --> 00:51:00,300 this blood concoction. And it was one of the great scenes in motion picture 712 00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:02,480 history. So I have a screening. 713 00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:06,430 And Carol comes to see this reading. I said, well, what do you think of it? She 714 00:51:06,430 --> 00:51:08,410 said, in one word? I said, yes, she said, vomitous. 715 00:51:09,130 --> 00:51:13,190 So that's when I went out and made up these vomit bags. You may need this when 716 00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:14,370 you see Blood Feast. 717 00:51:14,930 --> 00:51:16,570 Printed up a quarter of a million of them. 718 00:51:17,410 --> 00:51:21,670 Now, Kohlberg, the man who had financed this thing, was an exhibitor, had a 719 00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:22,670 chain of drive -ins. 720 00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:27,050 Well, where do you want to play it? Well, let's not play it in Chicago, 721 00:51:27,050 --> 00:51:29,210 if it drops dead, it'll be all over the business. 722 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,780 Well, what about Gary? That's too close to Chicago. Oh, wait a minute. I've got 723 00:51:32,780 --> 00:51:33,860 to drive in in Peoria. 724 00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:38,520 Okay, that's great. We'll open in Peoria. If it works in Peoria, it'll 725 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:44,200 anywhere. We drive 120 miles to Peoria. We turn off on the road to get to this 726 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,980 drive -in, and suddenly I said, my God, we're in the back of a funeral 727 00:51:47,980 --> 00:51:48,980 procession. 728 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,620 This is three miles from the theater. 729 00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:56,940 And as we inch along, finally I can see the screen tower. All these people are 730 00:51:56,940 --> 00:51:58,780 going in to see Blood Feast. 731 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,020 And there's an Illinois state trooper there, and he said, no more, no more. 732 00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:08,080 And I said, excuse me, Sergeant. He was actually a corporal, but you always 733 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:13,060 promote him. I said, I'm the producer. I ought to run you in. You've got my 734 00:52:13,060 --> 00:52:14,460 whole district blocked up. 735 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,340 But he lets us in. 736 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,640 And that picture hit the screen that night, and history was made. 737 00:52:22,540 --> 00:52:26,620 Some old boy had just gone down to the concession stand to get some drinks for 738 00:52:26,620 --> 00:52:27,558 the kids. 739 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,140 And he said, they sure do make it look real, don't they? 740 00:52:30,580 --> 00:52:32,900 And I said, you know what I heard? 741 00:52:33,340 --> 00:52:34,580 That is for real. 742 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,260 You know those Hollywood people, they'll do anything. 743 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,480 He said, damn. 744 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,180 I did a lot of gimmicks with the thing. I think in Sarasota, I... 745 00:52:45,290 --> 00:52:48,750 got an injunction to stop the picture from being shown in the town. 746 00:52:48,830 --> 00:52:50,250 Unfortunately, the injunction stuck. 747 00:52:51,230 --> 00:52:57,330 I was going to get the injunction as a fair -minded citizen and then go down 748 00:52:57,330 --> 00:53:04,130 have it lifted, but the judge, well, so we had to play Bradenton the next town 749 00:53:04,130 --> 00:53:10,910 up. But I would say that that little $24 ,000 picture brought back roughly a $30 750 00:53:10,910 --> 00:53:11,910 million. 751 00:53:11,950 --> 00:53:12,950 Gross. Oh, yeah. 752 00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:15,470 That blood piece was terrible. 753 00:53:15,690 --> 00:53:19,430 Well, you know what they did? They cut off a pig's head or something like that, 754 00:53:19,470 --> 00:53:23,510 wasn't it? I mean, I didn't even see it. I didn't want to see it. I can't stand 755 00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:24,570 to see things like that. 756 00:53:25,850 --> 00:53:27,670 It all got kind of ugly fast. 757 00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:34,930 And, you know, while you still couldn't show sex, the 758 00:53:34,930 --> 00:53:40,270 nudie substituted, you know, other forms of shock for them, mostly violence. 759 00:53:41,770 --> 00:53:46,670 You know, or really ridiculous storylines. I mean, really, really 760 00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:49,290 Because you still couldn't show sex, so you had to come up with something. 761 00:53:49,870 --> 00:53:54,450 And possibly the weirdest thing are these films they call the roughies. And 762 00:53:54,450 --> 00:53:57,270 just find it interesting that one day you have nudie cuties, the next day you 763 00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:59,950 have roughies. I mean, there doesn't seem to be much of a gap in between. 764 00:54:00,270 --> 00:54:06,030 And the roughies were just... It was as if the audiences for these films were 765 00:54:06,030 --> 00:54:10,410 almost immediately frustrated at watching beautiful women but not being 766 00:54:10,410 --> 00:54:11,410 touch them. 767 00:54:11,790 --> 00:54:14,450 So if we can't touch them, let's beat them up or something. I don't know, 768 00:54:14,490 --> 00:54:16,790 because these films were just really rough and rude. 769 00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:21,290 We were just getting tired of nudist camp pictures and nudie cuties. Let's 770 00:54:21,290 --> 00:54:22,310 something a little different. 771 00:54:24,650 --> 00:54:31,110 When I went out to California with Dan Sonny in 772 00:54:31,110 --> 00:54:37,540 1964, I made what... Today, I don't like to sound too 773 00:54:37,540 --> 00:54:41,200 immodest. He's still considered the standard roughy, and that was a picture 774 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,200 called The Defilers. 775 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,460 Everything they touch is days. 776 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,980 The Defilers. 777 00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:58,120 Two guys who just have to kick, and one of them obviously is able to sort of 778 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,720 control the other one, and they kidnap a girl and just... 779 00:55:02,660 --> 00:55:05,420 abuse her down in the basement as their own personal little toy. 780 00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:17,720 And it's a very unsettling film, and unlike a lot of the other roughies, 781 00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:21,700 not on the side of the guys in this one. You're really on the side of the girl, 782 00:55:21,740 --> 00:55:25,960 and it helps it a bit because it's pretty intense, and it's also very well 783 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:26,960 and very well filmed. 784 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,520 That's only the biffy chick. 785 00:55:28,940 --> 00:55:30,820 The only way out of there is to pull the chain. 786 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,720 It's inevitable, baby. Why not enjoy it? 787 00:55:39,380 --> 00:55:43,920 That was a good picture. We made money with it. 788 00:55:44,540 --> 00:55:50,020 We made money with it. Dave was doing the whole thing. I was putting up the 789 00:55:50,020 --> 00:55:52,960 money. And Dave was making it and everything. 790 00:55:53,740 --> 00:55:56,960 And I get my money back. We go 50 -50 on the problem. 791 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:03,600 I was around 55 years old. I was getting a little tired. I had my building down 792 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:08,860 there, and I was, you know, I wanted Dave to come out here because I knew he 793 00:56:08,860 --> 00:56:10,060 knew something about Chopin. 794 00:56:10,260 --> 00:56:16,140 Working with Dan Sonny was the happiest period of my life. When I first saw 795 00:56:16,140 --> 00:56:20,060 Sonny Amusement, it wasn't a motion picture company. It was the winter 796 00:56:20,060 --> 00:56:21,060 of a carnival. 797 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:25,160 There was the wax figures. There was the body of Elmer McCurdy, the mummified 798 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,400 body of this old Oklahoma outlaw. 799 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,220 There were stuffed crocodiles hanging from the ceiling. 800 00:56:32,460 --> 00:56:33,780 It was unreal. 801 00:56:34,020 --> 00:56:40,160 Dan's family, the first and foremost family of exploitation in this country, 802 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:46,020 all of the tales of Dan's father, Louis Sonny, who basically really founded the 803 00:56:46,020 --> 00:56:52,500 exploitation business in this country, became my good 804 00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:55,300 fortune and privilege to become the chronicler. 805 00:56:55,740 --> 00:57:02,200 this family and all of their deeds and adventures which is fun fun fun 806 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:37,200 The original title of that was The Man Eater, but then the newspaper said they 807 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,200 couldn't take that. 808 00:57:38,620 --> 00:57:43,680 So the whole idea was she was a little tease, and she would lead these guys 809 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:50,480 on so far and then holler, rape, rape, and they'd get arrested. 810 00:57:51,020 --> 00:57:55,720 So it was a smell of honey and then a swallow of brine. 811 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,920 It's basically a cock teaser film. I mean, there's no other way of doing it. 812 00:57:58,920 --> 00:57:59,799 It's about a girl. 813 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,280 It's a wonderful actress named Stacey Walker who only made two features. 814 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:04,560 Talk about offensive. 815 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:11,640 She actually leads one guy on so much that he is, you know, he turns into a 816 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,040 rapist. All of a 817 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:21,740 sudden, he's so turned on by her 818 00:58:21,740 --> 00:58:23,960 that he is forced to run through the streets. 819 00:58:24,380 --> 00:58:28,040 of Los Angeles stop briefly and look at mannequins in a window and then rape the 820 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,040 first girl he sees. 821 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,480 Then he gets shot through the head and you're supposed to feel sorry for him. 822 00:58:36,700 --> 00:58:42,160 Okay, then, and then she, this being a film made for the male audience too, she 823 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:46,520 receives her comeuppance by ending up becoming a hooker at the end. 824 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:53,640 Stacey Walker. 825 00:58:54,430 --> 00:58:58,450 Notorious daughter of Fanny Hill and a smell of honey, a swallow of brine. She 826 00:58:58,450 --> 00:59:01,350 was really one of the prettiest girls I ever saw. 827 00:59:02,210 --> 00:59:03,770 What you used to call her precious. 828 00:59:04,550 --> 00:59:10,350 He always treated her as though she was very, very precious. 829 00:59:11,610 --> 00:59:14,250 Two things you find in every one of Dave's exploitation films. 830 00:59:14,490 --> 00:59:15,950 Lesbian scene and a whipping scene. 831 00:59:16,410 --> 00:59:20,090 Doesn't matter what the film is. It doesn't matter what the context is. He's 832 00:59:20,090 --> 00:59:22,870 going to find an excuse to put those two things in there. So in the midst of a 833 00:59:22,870 --> 00:59:25,720 frothy, Silly sci -fi comedy. 834 00:59:25,940 --> 00:59:27,040 One girl gets whipped. 835 00:59:28,580 --> 00:59:31,080 Oh, God almighty. 836 00:59:32,220 --> 00:59:35,700 It's a formula, and, you know, obviously it worked well for him. 837 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,320 You know, I mean, he had him down pat, and, you know, his films made money, and 838 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,420 they were big and successful, and they're the ones that hold up the best. 839 00:59:44,540 --> 00:59:48,640 They're the ones that sell the best. We made pictures that made money. We made 840 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:49,960 pictures that we lost money. 841 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,940 On a picture we made, she freaked. 842 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,200 I still got like $20 ,000 to get back before I break even. 843 00:59:59,020 --> 01:00:04,520 Dave, that was his baby. He thought that was going to be a gone with the wind. 844 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,560 There are only two kinds of freaks, ladies and gentlemen. 845 01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:18,740 Those created by God and those made by man. 846 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,960 Look, if you must. 847 01:00:21,390 --> 01:00:23,890 The way I describe the film is I call it carny noir. 848 01:00:24,250 --> 01:00:27,050 It almost seems like it was made by somebody with a carnival fetish. 849 01:00:27,330 --> 01:00:31,050 I mean, you just see, I mean, it's like tons of shots of the carnival setting 850 01:00:31,050 --> 01:00:35,290 up, taking down, the carnival at night, the carnival in the day, the booth. And 851 01:00:35,290 --> 01:00:37,370 I find that quite lovely. 852 01:00:37,570 --> 01:00:40,090 I can't compare it to something. His carnival picture. 853 01:00:40,330 --> 01:00:41,810 He had to sleep with that negative. 854 01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:47,150 I had to send it to him to sleep with it. 855 01:00:48,500 --> 01:00:51,760 Sadly, to a film buff like myself, but in many cases, the film is purely 856 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,280 incidental. The film is like, well, Jesus, we've got a great title, we've 857 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,980 great idea, we've got great posters, we've got great ads. Oh, shit, we've got 858 01:00:59,980 --> 01:01:04,600 get a film to go with it. I would spend more time writing the trailer copy or 859 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,640 writing the poster copy than I ever spent writing the script. 860 01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:15,060 If you are under 18, you are breaking the law by even seeing this preview. 861 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,280 Ah, she blows. 862 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,460 Built for filth's sake. 863 01:01:19,820 --> 01:01:25,480 Teddy, a part -time swinger, full -time female, came from a thousand years 864 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:31,960 beyond. A crock of smut. It's an all -new, all -nude, lewd and 865 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,120 lascivious Zorro. 866 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,480 Here is a Zorro with balls. 867 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,380 What will you do next? 868 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,440 Next? I am getting laid. 869 01:01:43,060 --> 01:01:47,180 Garbage. Unfit to be seen by decent, civilized people. 870 01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:50,160 The heathen ritual of penetration. 871 01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:56,680 Performed on the sweating, pulsating body of the defiled girl. This is a film 872 01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,180 that literally assaults the sensual senses. 873 01:02:00,860 --> 01:02:03,280 No matter how many times I am ripped off. 874 01:02:03,690 --> 01:02:06,410 I'm still a sucker for the come on. If they tell me we're going to show you 875 01:02:06,410 --> 01:02:09,010 something you've never seen before, I'm like a damn fool going, really, uncle? 876 01:02:09,310 --> 01:02:10,610 A sweet sickness. 877 01:02:11,550 --> 01:02:15,150 It has also been called eight reels of sewage. 878 01:02:15,370 --> 01:02:18,550 You know, it's the old razzle dazzle, sell the sizzle, not the steak. 879 01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:20,110 That's what it was all about. 880 01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:25,190 And it worked for me, it worked for Bab, it worked for Barnum, it worked for 881 01:02:25,190 --> 01:02:26,510 Bailey. So why change it? 882 01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:30,950 We made a picture called Starlet, and I had a line. 883 01:02:31,919 --> 01:02:36,800 Neuble starlet sucked and then into a vortex of passion was the second line. 884 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:42,140 And this guy said, okay, you can't use this copy here. 885 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:48,160 And I said, okay, you cut me. You caught me. So he said, what's wrong? 886 01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:51,740 Like I didn't know. He said, this word neuble. 887 01:02:52,460 --> 01:02:53,460 Neuble? 888 01:02:53,900 --> 01:02:57,140 Yeah, I said, we know what it means. I said, so do I know what it means. What 889 01:02:57,140 --> 01:02:59,560 you think it means? He said, it means naked Negroes. 890 01:03:00,060 --> 01:03:04,620 I said, no, you've got it mixed up with two words, nude and Nubian. It just 891 01:03:04,620 --> 01:03:09,240 means young girls of marriageable age. Look it up. Never mind that. We know 892 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,038 it means. 893 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,040 I said, okay. 894 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,760 Is that all you want changed? He says, yeah. I said, all right. Then blossoming 895 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,820 starlets sucked into a vortex of passion. 896 01:03:18,140 --> 01:03:20,500 He said, now, why didn't you say that to begin with? 897 01:03:26,670 --> 01:03:30,490 See, this is what's wrong with today's movies. Not enough bloody crotch shots. 898 01:03:36,330 --> 01:03:40,610 Where are these people today? Do you think she's a grandmother today? You 899 01:03:40,610 --> 01:03:44,110 brings her little kids in and go, look, watch mommy bear her hooters in this 900 01:03:44,110 --> 01:03:47,610 scene. Now look at the guy bleeding all over them. Yes, mommy used to be in 901 01:03:47,610 --> 01:03:50,030 movies. Sure, there's her ass right now. 902 01:03:52,170 --> 01:03:56,490 The only film I'm aware that Dan was in was Fabulous Bastard from Chicago. 903 01:03:57,710 --> 01:03:58,970 Boy, it was a lot of fun. 904 01:03:59,930 --> 01:04:02,530 It was a lot of fun. I stood down there wheeling, dealing. 905 01:04:03,690 --> 01:04:05,730 Get out of here, you bitch, you! 906 01:04:06,570 --> 01:04:09,290 Or I'll break the goddamn bottle over your head. 907 01:04:11,730 --> 01:04:14,610 I think it was simply that they were having a good time. 908 01:04:15,050 --> 01:04:19,070 And also, when these films were made, you know, they really weren't studied. 909 01:04:20,670 --> 01:04:23,590 We're doing more studying of them now than they ever would have done back 910 01:04:23,810 --> 01:04:27,390 I mean, they played grindhouses and were forgotten about. No one analyzed them. 911 01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:31,530 They weren't reviewed in legitimate papers. The mainstream didn't pay any 912 01:04:31,530 --> 01:04:34,710 attention to this stuff. So what difference does it make? You might as 913 01:04:34,710 --> 01:04:38,250 the films, have a good time, you know, count your loot and get out of town. 914 01:04:38,930 --> 01:04:45,770 There were roughly 750 theaters in the United States by the end of the 60s 915 01:04:45,770 --> 01:04:46,850 that were playing. 916 01:04:49,470 --> 01:04:54,890 or roughies or nudie cuties or, you know, adult films. 917 01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:58,610 But that was the absolute peak. 918 01:04:58,910 --> 01:05:04,550 The name Pussycat became generic with adult theaters all over the country. And 919 01:05:04,550 --> 01:05:07,190 Dan Sonny was the guy that came up with that name. 920 01:05:07,550 --> 01:05:10,890 And where you and Margaret had been to see it. Yeah, we went to see it. 921 01:05:11,490 --> 01:05:13,810 What's new Pussycat or something? No, no. 922 01:05:15,910 --> 01:05:18,350 Pussycat? No, no, no. There was a song? No, no. 923 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,380 Goldfinger. Goldfinger. 924 01:05:20,940 --> 01:05:26,040 Goldfinger. No, the girl in Goldfinger. No, no, no, the Goldfinger. The girl 925 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:31,100 was. Please believe me, because I've been arguing with you for 25 years on 926 01:05:32,100 --> 01:05:37,540 Goldfinger had a balance out in front of the theater, and the aviator girl that 927 01:05:37,540 --> 01:05:39,220 was bringing in the gold. 928 01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:40,500 Pussy Galore. 929 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,060 Pussy Galore. 930 01:05:42,260 --> 01:05:43,260 Okay. 931 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,940 Okay. You can't talk to him. He's a mule. 932 01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:48,100 I'm a mule. 933 01:05:48,140 --> 01:05:49,140 He's a mule. 934 01:05:51,340 --> 01:05:52,500 I'm trying to tell you. 935 01:05:52,740 --> 01:05:58,220 I'd like to bet you $100, and I'd take your $100 if we lost it. 936 01:05:58,540 --> 01:06:00,120 No, no. Shove it up in your ass. 937 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:04,700 No, no, no. 938 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,120 You lose me. 939 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,780 Because I don't know if you remember, but I never lose a bet. 940 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,360 Never. 941 01:06:13,590 --> 01:06:17,090 In fact, I even put up a 100 -year tent. 942 01:06:18,750 --> 01:06:19,850 I'm so sure. 943 01:06:22,370 --> 01:06:27,470 The girls that Goldfinger had was the aviators. 944 01:06:28,450 --> 01:06:34,810 They called them Pussy Glower. It wasn't 945 01:06:34,810 --> 01:06:36,810 Pussy Glower. 946 01:06:37,130 --> 01:06:39,270 Son of a bitch, you got me going crazy. 947 01:06:41,260 --> 01:06:48,020 I worked for Dad a few times. I worked for him at the Pussycat down across from 948 01:06:48,020 --> 01:06:49,600 Pershing Square. What is that, Daddy? 949 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,560 Spring? What street is that? Hill Street. 950 01:06:52,780 --> 01:06:53,419 Hill Street. 951 01:06:53,420 --> 01:06:57,740 I would go down and work the cashier's booth. 952 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,560 I never go in the theater because, you know, I was like the girl. 953 01:07:02,980 --> 01:07:06,620 And a very interesting thing happened down there. 954 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,640 I would get a lot of Oriental Japanese men. 955 01:07:12,060 --> 01:07:16,820 buying tickets all the time. And they come in groves and groves and groves. 956 01:07:16,820 --> 01:07:22,840 later on, one time after Vince Miranda 957 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:29,280 opened the Pussycat on Sunset Boulevard, my husband and I went in there. 958 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,500 And we're sitting in there watching Deep Throat or God knows what. 959 01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:40,400 All of a sudden, like a busload of Japanese men and women came in. 960 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:45,940 sat there for like half an hour. They all got sat down. They all got up and 961 01:07:45,940 --> 01:07:49,080 left. And Vince, it was on the tour. 962 01:07:49,500 --> 01:07:51,060 It was on the Japanese tour. 963 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:57,980 The audience was basically a white male past the age of 35, 964 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:03,700 normally in a business suit, salesman on their lunch hour. 965 01:08:04,020 --> 01:08:07,300 This was the only business where the matinee was as big as the night 966 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,700 So salesmen on their lunch hour would come in. 967 01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:18,340 We had a theater in Minneapolis that I was partnered with a man up there. There 968 01:08:18,340 --> 01:08:23,120 was a phone in the lobby and I could hear these guys. 969 01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:28,069 Well, tell Mr. So -and -so I got a deal with 3M, but I'm going to be late. I 970 01:08:28,069 --> 01:08:30,990 probably won't be back in the office today and hang up the phone, you know, 971 01:08:31,010 --> 01:08:34,450 talking to his secretary. And he'd go into the theater. We were running double 972 01:08:34,450 --> 01:08:35,450 features there. 973 01:08:35,770 --> 01:08:40,149 I do remember in those theaters seeing guys masturbating, you know, under the, 974 01:08:40,229 --> 01:08:44,689 not overtly, but so you were, there were guys there masturbating just at the 975 01:08:44,689 --> 01:08:45,349 bare breath. 976 01:08:45,350 --> 01:08:46,990 And that is what it was all about. 977 01:08:47,290 --> 01:08:48,890 I don't think the guys came there. 978 01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:54,229 to see a plot. The Vice Squad comes in to theaters, and they look, they got a 979 01:08:54,229 --> 01:09:00,390 peek -hole in the men's bathroom, or the women's bathroom, and they want to see 980 01:09:00,390 --> 01:09:01,649 if men are jacking off. 981 01:09:02,510 --> 01:09:06,170 And I don't know why they do that, but it's true. Did you know that? 982 01:09:06,910 --> 01:09:07,910 Oh, yeah. 983 01:09:08,430 --> 01:09:12,529 Every once in a while, they would arrest somebody in my five theaters down 984 01:09:12,529 --> 01:09:13,529 there. 985 01:09:13,630 --> 01:09:16,470 And who do you think they would be, the people jacking off? 986 01:09:17,090 --> 01:09:18,189 Attorneys, ministers? 987 01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:23,100 Teachers, those are the type of people that jack off in theaters. 988 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,460 Pee -wee was jacking off in the theater. 989 01:09:26,700 --> 01:09:29,359 You know, they don't have nothing else to do, I guess. 990 01:09:29,580 --> 01:09:34,399 There was an unwritten law in running an adult theater that no one sat beside 991 01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:37,859 anybody, no one sat in front of anybody or behind anybody. 992 01:09:38,340 --> 01:09:43,540 Dan Sonny had a theater down on Main Street, and one day he just took out 993 01:09:43,540 --> 01:09:45,420 other chair. It looked like a big checkerboard. 994 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:52,380 I have no interest in this stuff today because most of the porn made today is 995 01:09:52,380 --> 01:09:54,140 not movies. They're simply masturbatory aids. 996 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,780 Our secret was the old Carney tease. Boy, we didn't see it this week, but 997 01:09:58,780 --> 01:10:01,920 week we're going to see it. Did you see the previews? Ha, ha, ha. Oh, boy, we've 998 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:02,920 got to come back next week. 999 01:10:03,300 --> 01:10:08,500 But here with explicit films, the minute you raise the curtain, you're giving 1000 01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:09,500 away the third act. 1001 01:10:10,220 --> 01:10:14,160 Where do you go from there? It just wasn't fun anymore. 1002 01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:15,880 It wasn't my cup of tea. 1003 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,780 That's why we're out of the businesses. 1004 01:10:18,380 --> 01:10:19,380 Hardcore took over. 1005 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:23,740 God, I got to pee. 1006 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,120 How are your prostrate glands? Pretty good? Very good, Danny. As I said, since 1007 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:30,000 started taking that Palmetto. 1008 01:10:31,260 --> 01:10:32,260 Go ahead, Danny. 1009 01:10:32,740 --> 01:10:34,300 Mention my name, you get a good seat. 1010 01:10:36,140 --> 01:10:36,999 Where's Mike? 1011 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,000 Here he is. 1012 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,220 Mike, hey, hey, hey. Hey, kid. 1013 01:10:42,090 --> 01:10:43,090 How you doing, Mike? 1014 01:10:43,630 --> 01:10:45,730 You look like you grew two inches. 1015 01:10:46,970 --> 01:10:49,110 I'm sorry I'm so dirty, Dan. Come on in. 1016 01:10:49,690 --> 01:10:51,230 This is where I've been keeping everything. 1017 01:10:52,210 --> 01:10:54,930 This will remind you of your old place. 1018 01:10:56,010 --> 01:10:58,030 Oh, my God. It really does. 1019 01:10:58,990 --> 01:11:00,930 Well, is this all yours? 1020 01:11:02,170 --> 01:11:04,090 Oh, you're crazier than I am. 1021 01:11:04,750 --> 01:11:06,570 Dan, it gets even better. Oh. 1022 01:11:08,370 --> 01:11:09,810 I can't believe it. 1023 01:11:11,660 --> 01:11:13,440 I'm a pretty organized guy, huh, Dan? 1024 01:11:14,340 --> 01:11:18,480 Young in the den, this is a colony pussy. 1025 01:11:19,490 --> 01:11:20,690 No, no, no, no. 1026 01:11:20,890 --> 01:11:23,290 Colony. Wait a minute. That says pussy there. 1027 01:11:23,530 --> 01:11:28,030 Oh, pussy galore. Pussy galore. You know, you and I have been in this 1028 01:11:28,030 --> 01:11:31,350 so long that the word film had two syllables. 1029 01:11:32,350 --> 01:11:39,330 I said to him, I said, nobody's interested in this old 1030 01:11:39,330 --> 01:11:41,550 stuff. And he said, just give me a shot. 1031 01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:46,570 And when I told you about it, you said the same thing. Who'd look at that junk? 1032 01:11:47,730 --> 01:11:54,210 But I've been seeing things on these new pictures that I think some of our old 1033 01:11:54,210 --> 01:11:57,470 shit's better than new ones. That costs a million dollars. 1034 01:11:58,390 --> 01:12:00,950 I really mean it. I know. I agree with you. 1035 01:12:01,250 --> 01:12:02,250 I agree with you. 1036 01:12:03,810 --> 01:12:07,890 So probably the most exciting thing is these guys are still in the game. 1037 01:12:08,190 --> 01:12:12,090 You know, for ten more years when they thought it was completely over, they 1038 01:12:12,090 --> 01:12:15,550 dumping the stuff, they were clean, they're all moving in different 1039 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,380 you know, to retire and whatnot. 1040 01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:23,720 I came along, and now we've gone from video to television to clips, stock 1041 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,880 footage, where this stuff is going to be used over and over again and seen 1042 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,380 constantly probably until the end of time. 1043 01:12:31,140 --> 01:12:34,460 Is that a school over there? Yeah, it is. What kind of school? 1044 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,680 Elementary. 1045 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:39,900 Don't tell him you're over there. I know. Isn't that just, you know? 1046 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,360 Danny, you're still thinking back in those terms. Hey, little boy, you want 1047 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:48,500 buy some filthy pictures? 1048 01:12:50,980 --> 01:12:56,720 Every day for 28 years, I drove this. 1049 01:13:00,020 --> 01:13:02,440 And we had nice offices, didn't we? We sure did. 1050 01:13:03,340 --> 01:13:07,640 All right, here we are on Cordova Street. This is where it all happened. 1051 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,480 Silvestri is still here, Al. This used to be the big popcorn plant. 1052 01:13:13,210 --> 01:13:16,310 And then all of the theater equipment dealers were down here. 1053 01:13:16,790 --> 01:13:19,970 The neon company. The neon company. Here we are. 1054 01:13:20,330 --> 01:13:22,050 Park right here. Park right here. 1055 01:13:22,670 --> 01:13:23,870 Look, they got a gate on there. 1056 01:13:24,490 --> 01:13:25,550 I don't blame them. 1057 01:13:25,870 --> 01:13:27,950 I don't blame them. Okay, we're here. 1058 01:13:28,370 --> 01:13:30,150 Well, Danny, we're home. 1059 01:13:30,750 --> 01:13:31,728 We're home. 1060 01:13:31,730 --> 01:13:32,950 There it is down there. 1061 01:13:33,810 --> 01:13:36,090 Yeah. Oh, shit. 1062 01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:39,170 You got it. 1063 01:13:39,510 --> 01:13:40,510 Oh, God. 1064 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:43,419 Oh, shit. 1065 01:13:43,420 --> 01:13:44,460 Oh, shit. 1066 01:13:44,980 --> 01:13:45,980 Oh, shit. 1067 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:48,379 Here, Danny. 1068 01:13:48,380 --> 01:13:49,380 Give me your hand. 1069 01:13:49,620 --> 01:13:51,500 Give me your hand. Okay. Okay. 1070 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,500 Okay, thank you, Danny. Okay, baby. Thank you, Danny. You better lock the 1071 01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:01,100 Yeah, lock the car. It'll be gone before... Danny, we're back. 1072 01:14:01,500 --> 01:14:04,980 We're back on Cordova Street. Well, they painted the building. They painted it. 1073 01:14:04,980 --> 01:14:07,100 It looks good. They put bars up. 1074 01:14:07,580 --> 01:14:08,580 Looks good. 1075 01:14:11,020 --> 01:14:12,920 Remember, EVI used to be up there. 1076 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,200 Presbyterian Church. 1077 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,400 Haram, Haram Presbyterian Church. 1078 01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:21,720 Can you imagine this citadel of sin becoming a church? 1079 01:14:22,060 --> 01:14:23,060 That's right. 1080 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:30,980 Then, Armand was in here. Yeah, the next door, the photographic studio we had 1081 01:14:30,980 --> 01:14:34,540 next door. The photographic studio we owned, ultra -volume photo. 1082 01:14:35,460 --> 01:14:38,540 And we used to grind out. 1083 01:14:39,940 --> 01:14:43,520 Well, I guess 5 ,000 stills a day if you had to. Oh, yeah, yeah. 1084 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,220 Then Armand was in here with the poster. 1085 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,760 Poster company was in there. In there. 1086 01:14:50,460 --> 01:14:55,800 And then our little Mexican artist, Rudy, was here. 1087 01:14:56,220 --> 01:14:57,500 Yeah, right there. He was good. 1088 01:14:57,900 --> 01:15:00,980 Yeah, he was quite a guy. He was a whale of an artist. 1089 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:02,280 A cocksman. 1090 01:15:03,380 --> 01:15:04,380 See, 1091 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:06,160 we had a regular. 1092 01:15:06,590 --> 01:15:10,210 A regular film roll here, you know, with vaults and cutting rooms and 1093 01:15:10,210 --> 01:15:11,210 everything. 1094 01:15:11,370 --> 01:15:15,390 My dad built all this stuff here. That was a pretty good little insert stage. 1095 01:15:15,650 --> 01:15:19,290 We shot down in Santa Monica, and then when we wanted to shoot the scenes for 1096 01:15:19,290 --> 01:15:23,230 the group, we'd shoot it inside there. You wouldn't know the difference. 1097 01:15:24,930 --> 01:15:29,650 See, these pictures, a lot of these, out of 100 pictures that I donated to UCLA. 1098 01:15:34,020 --> 01:15:39,400 90 % of them, not 90, but 70 % of them was made by other producers that died, 1099 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,020 like Irving Claw in New York. 1100 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:46,880 Well, after they died, I went and bought these negatives from their estates, 1101 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:52,880 like J .D. Kennes, you've heard of him, and Willis Kent, and all those people. I 1102 01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:57,100 went ahead. For some reason, I don't know, I guess I was the buyer, and I 1103 01:15:57,100 --> 01:16:02,220 up with them, and now that's why my name is on UCLA, because I donated 100 1104 01:16:02,220 --> 01:16:03,220 pictures to them. 1105 01:16:03,950 --> 01:16:05,390 And that's it. That's the end. 1106 01:16:05,670 --> 01:16:08,350 They should have given you a doctrine. 1107 01:16:10,970 --> 01:16:14,730 You know, isn't it funny? I don't actually remember when we came here. 1108 01:16:14,970 --> 01:16:16,250 It could have been 1950. 1109 01:16:19,210 --> 01:16:20,108 It's cold. 1110 01:16:20,110 --> 01:16:21,270 God, it's cold as hell. 1111 01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:23,430 Don't you catch cold, though. 1112 01:16:23,670 --> 01:16:28,530 See how I walk? I walk like... It's terrible how I walk. 1113 01:16:28,750 --> 01:16:29,750 You all right? 1114 01:16:29,810 --> 01:16:30,850 Oh, yeah, I'm fine. 1115 01:16:33,180 --> 01:16:35,760 Actually, you should walk some every day, Danny. 1116 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,260 I try to walk a mile every day. Yeah. 1117 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:46,940 Well... Look at the picture. 1118 01:16:47,020 --> 01:16:49,160 Wow. Look at it. They don't shit on your head. 1119 01:16:52,540 --> 01:16:53,540 That's great. 95893

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